April 26, 2013
— Ace From @benk84's news dump.
Why did this have to happen? What exactly turned this from "amusing incident" to Source of National Concern?
So why has Martinson’s screed been such popular online fodder? Many reasons, according to Michael Fertik, founder and CEO of Reputation.com, who told CNN it was because of the "mean girls" stereotype, the surprise factor of "something so vulgar and crude being spouted by someone who looks fairly angelic,” and the fact that a quick search of her social media accounts revealed other less-than-politic moments. And, he added, the email could follow the college junior for years.“The Internet is forever,” Fertik added. “Unfortunately for her, her ‘online tattoo’ will stick with her for a long, long time—and it will likely color how peers, future employers, grad school admissions officers, etc., regard her as a person. She’s going to have to work very hard to show that she's taken this experience and used it to grow into a more mature, thoughtful, tolerant and compassionate person.”
I have an alternate theory: It's that deep down, people's favorite hobbies include Judging and Selecting an Ostracized Person for Coordinated Social Scorning.
I would further propose that because liberals have convinced themselves they do not have the impulses towards such things, they have no internal restraints against them. (Much like the observation that you can't quit drinking until you admit you have a problem; if you're telling yourself Everything's Just Fine, you lack the first prerequisite for modifying your behavior.)
This email was... what? Nothing. An angry email. With some profanity and some new deployments of rhyming vulgarities. And which looks dopey from the outside. From the outside, of course, we can see that it really doesn't matter if Delta Gamma impresses Sigma Nu or not; from the outside, the amount of emotional investment in pleasing the Sigs seems pretty trivial. So it strikes us as funny.
And... so? So we read a funny email. Why is it necessary to speculate, as CNN did, that there's something more to it than a somewhat embarrassing email which will be forgotten in a week?
I think it's because people, such as those speculating on CNN, and CNN "reporters" themselves, are quietly ashamed of themselves for pushing such a thing as "serious news" and, in the process, beating up on a 19 year old girl (or whatever age).
And I think they're doing this for ratings, and to satisfy viewer's desire for Judging and Scorning the Outsider Who (Horrors!) Erred.
Thus they have to justify such behavior to themselves, they cook the books on the supposed Importance Factor and dial up the knobs for What This All Means measurements and then hook it up to the Teachable Moment Bullshit Morality Tale generator.
They are compelled to justify their own bad behavior by blackening this girl's behavior into some great offense.
She wrote a stupid email.
I made an observation about Hate last week. Leftism is a cult. I'm sure most of you agree with that. Now, in many cults (or religions, more broadly) there are certain actions which are deemed taboo -- but a religion usually affords some way in which performance of the action is sanctified, if it's an action that is important and necessary.
For example, let's take sex. Sex is a taboo in most religions (and in most societies, period) and there are a whole bunch of rules for how sex must happen, if it it is to happen, and not be taboo. In a traditionalist religion, the most obvious form of sanctification of sex is via the vehicle of marriage -- marriage makes the relationship not about base sexual gratification but about something important and eternal (children, family).
Even non-religious society creates methods of sanctification of otherwise taboo acts. For example, among non-religious 16 year old girls, perhaps they might call a girl who sleeps around a "slut," but they also probably have constructed a sanctification safe harbor for sex: if it's a boyfriend you're going steady with (i.e., have dated for two weeks or more, almost an eternity!) and it's about love, then you're not necessarily a slut for having sex, unless we don't like you, in which case you still are.
The reason I bring this up is to point out that in the Cult of the Left, "Hate" is the Ultimate Taboo. The left has few taboos about sex, for example (except the general one that whatever you're doing, it's wrong, because They Know Best; also, they seem pretty convinced that if you don't just Experiment a little with Homosexuality yourself, you may be a Hater Who Hates).
But Hate is their big taboo. But note that they have created a ritualistic safe harbor for a sanctified, praiseworthy expression of hatred: If the Committee of the Whole declares someone persona non grata and Not of the Body, then all taboos against hate are rescinded and you are permitted -- nay, obligated -- to direct as much hatred towards that Designated Hate Object as your blackened heart may contain.
And thus, the need to hate -- to judge, to scorn, to mock, to ostracize, to bring low with insult and venom and screaming and anger -- is channeled, by the High Priests of the cult, towards socially benevolent purposes (at least when viewed from the perspectives of the High Priests).
Hatred is their taboo, their ultimate taboo, the One Forbidden Fruit of which they must not eat, but they soooo wish to bite into this delicious fruit of sweet hatred. To deny them fully would be very difficult, contrary to human programming, and Also No Fun At All.
So a safe harbor for sanctification of the free venting of hatred, judgment, and bullying ostracism is thereby created to appease this urge.
In this case, this girl was a Mean Girl and so that, of course, justifies all the Mean Girl behavior in the world against her (including, of course, the Mean Girl behavior of men, who really ought to be embarrassed of themselves).
This is the general Ritual Consecration of the Free Hate-- the claim that the Designated Hate Opponents are themselves haters and therefore it is now Moral and Godly to hate the Haters as hatefully as cerebral blood vessels will allow.
Nice little racket they've got there, no? Crusade against "hate" all day long, and then periodically declare an Approved Hate Opportunity to keep the parishioners happy and coming back to church.
There's a saying in Christianity that "God is difficult, but he is not impossible." He asks us to do the difficult-- but not the impossible.
The God of the Left is similar, it seems. The High Priests of the Left knows full well that hatred is not really taboo in the Cult, but rather the whole point for joining the cult in the first place.
So while hatred is, supposedly, forbidden, it in fact occupies the center of the cult in the dark church's most sanctified place. As every primitive, totemic religion requires scapegoats, sin-eaters, and blood sacrifice, so too does this one.
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Posted by: RWC at April 26, 2013 08:53 AM (fWAjv)
There is a lot of truth in that statement, but that is not why she "had to resign".
Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2013 08:55 AM (53z96)
‘online tattoo’ will stick with her for a long, long time—and it will
likely color how peers, future employers, grad school admissions
officers, etc., regard her as a person.
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Frankly I might be more inclined to hire her.
Posted by: irright at April 26, 2013 08:56 AM (8GKDa)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 08:57 AM (INYkK)
"I have an alternate theory: It's that deep down, people's favorite hobbies include Judging and Selecting an Ostracized Person for Coordinated Social Scorning."
I have to admit to doing this myself. Something about some people rub me the wrong way, and they may not deserve my "dislike" of them. Maybe it makes one feel better to find someone else to scape goat....
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at April 26, 2013 08:57 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Vic at April 26, 2013 08:58 AM (53z96)
Posted by: mindful webworker, bargain basement doodler at April 26, 2013 08:58 AM (U13jb)
Posted by: buzzion at April 26, 2013 08:58 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: [/i]akula51 at April 26, 2013 08:59 AM (Vgn84)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 08:59 AM (INYkK)
Fertik tells CNN, "She’s going to have to work very hard to show that she's taken this experience and used it to grow into a more mature, thoughtful, tolerant and compassionate person.”
However, none of these things are expected of the media or those prigs who thought her email was worth anything more than chuckleworthy.
Posted by: spongeworthy at April 26, 2013 08:59 AM (r5w1L)
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 26, 2013 08:59 AM (/cTO2)
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2013 09:00 AM (waUCO)
When Orwell wrote '1984' and 'Animal Farm', he was warning fellow-socialists ( idealistic world-stupid intellectuals ) of what they were headed towards.
they didn't take heed, obviously. Didn't take no heed at all
Posted by: Socrates, not Plato at April 26, 2013 09:00 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Jess1 at April 26, 2013 09:00 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:00 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: wooga, from a better fraternity at April 26, 2013 09:00 AM (huTFD)
Good gravy.
I hate it when people say this, but what movie are you reviewing?
I first heard about this an hour or so ago, when some radio guys were reading the email on air (with one of them providing the bleeps). It was mildly amusing for about 10 seconds.
I cannot imagine what would cause the need for ANYONE to spend any more time on it than that.
Sorry, I read the first few sentences of the post Ace. Not going to read the rest.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2013 09:00 AM (TOk1P)
No, good work, Ace.
I just saw the dramatic reading of the 'cunt punt' email by actor Michael Shannon this morning. Funny.
Posted by: Sphynx at April 26, 2013 09:01 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Knave at April 26, 2013 09:01 AM (cipri)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:01 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 26, 2013 09:02 AM (19AvL)
Are you shitting me?
Buzzfeed? Sure. This sort of thing falls dead center in their wheelhouse. But CNN?
Fucking SMOD. Why couldn't you have had better aim?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 26, 2013 09:02 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Stupid finger tapping secret handshake at April 26, 2013 09:02 AM (U13jb)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 26, 2013 09:02 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:03 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Landru ( the Archon ) at April 26, 2013 09:03 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: Village Idiot at April 26, 2013 09:03 AM (utXSy)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 01:00 PM (nH8jP) [i/]
Spot on, and I've seen it happen before. Specifically within my own fraternity (albeit a different chapter) when a member made some rather intolerant remarks on video.
Posted by: Country Singer at April 26, 2013 09:03 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: kathysaysso at April 26, 2013 09:03 AM (6H6o8)
***
Reminds me of the Landru episode of the original Star Trek.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:03 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Cartman's _Evil_Twin at April 26, 2013 09:04 AM (jt9MI)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at April 26, 2013 09:04 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Barack Obama at April 26, 2013 09:04 AM (19AvL)
Which is also the reason why the Left is so obsessed with Hate-Sex. (rape)
Posted by: Fritz at April 26, 2013 09:04 AM (UzPAd)
I thought that email was a friggin' riot... and frankly? That chick has some chutzpah. Not many people are willing to stand up, crack their knuckles, and lay down the law like that.
There's something to be said for telling it like it is, even if I didn't care for some of her tweets... but that's life.
Posted by: TheNewGuy at April 26, 2013 09:04 AM (l7IRX)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 26, 2013 09:05 AM (kXoT0)
Been going on since the roman coliseum days, when dirty bottom feeders covered in dust and shit would sit in the stands and feel all self important while cheering slaves killing themselves in the arena.
Posted by: Berserker at April 26, 2013 09:05 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Dave S. at April 26, 2013 09:05 AM (M3APu)
Posted by: Jean at April 26, 2013 09:05 AM (5qa+L)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:05 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:06 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:06 AM (KBKz/)
see where this is heading.................??
Posted by: F. Nietzsche, German insane person at April 26, 2013 09:06 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: wte9 at April 26, 2013 09:06 AM (6Tcdo)
‘online tattoo’ will stick with her for a long, long time—and it will
likely color how peers, future employers, grad school admissions
officers, etc., regard her as a person.
***
I've got some absolution here in my pants.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:06 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Jean at April 26, 2013 09:06 AM (5qa+L)
Maybe. So what?
I'm of the opinion that people who say things that are fucking stupid should have how fucking stupid they are pointed out to them. It's how they learn.
That's especially true with the current "specialist snowflake generation." We stopped pointing out how stupid they were decades ago and now we're surprised when they turn out to be clueless dolts and boors? Bring a dozen in for a job interview and you'll see what I mean.
In the case of the Bitch of Gamma Delta™ I was not bothered at all. I thought what she did was hilarious. I also though it was stupid, shallow, and self-centered. Which is exactly what you do when you're 20 and stupid, shallow, and self-centered.
OTH, subsequent investigation revealed a rather disturbing tendency toward racism in her Tweets.
So, let's assume Ace is a hiring official at the MegaLoMart Corporation, and you come across this, ummmm, predilection of Miss Martinson, and you ignore it and hire her anyway.
Exactly what kind of liability do you think you're setting your company up for when she later starts abusing the staff in rather graphic terms?
People have a right to be stupid. They also have a right to be held accountable for it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 26, 2013 09:06 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: eleven at April 26, 2013 09:06 AM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 26, 2013 09:07 AM (celt+)
Where can I go to hire this girl? She may be a diamond-in-the-rough, but she has leadership instincts that most people will never realize.
Posted by: Liberty Lover at April 26, 2013 09:07 AM (encrR)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 26, 2013 09:08 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 09:08 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: dogfish at April 26, 2013 09:08 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Miss South Carolina at April 26, 2013 09:08 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at April 26, 2013 09:08 AM (Dll6b)
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Bread and circuses.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:08 AM (Hx5uv)
Different theory....
People have a Need to be angry. There has to be a balance to life... NO ONE who is sane, or self aware, can be happy all the time.
But we have trained folks not to get angry... Hell... we can't even be angry at the Moslems trying to F'n Kill US....
So that anger has to come out... and this is a 'safe' outlet (ie societaly sanctioned) for that pent up anger to be vented.
This theory also is supported by the over the top stuff we see on the Net, and in Emails.... people 'think' its a safe outlet... and thus feel free to make death threats...
Posted by: Romeo13, all those Sock Puppets are REAL and talk to me... at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: The Topless Tweets at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (U13jb)
People have a right to be stupid. They also have a right to be held accountable for it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 26, 2013 01:06 PM (sbV1u)
That is true, but the girl herself, and her misdeed, is of less import than the window into the hive mind that the reaction to the girl's behavior offers.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (KBKz/)
Poor bastard. I made it 3/4 of the way through the second episode. It was then that I reached down my shorts and was thus reminded that I am not a 16 year old teenaged girl who watches shitty TV series about High School drama and Teen Angst bullshit.
House of Cards: Awesome.
Hemlock Grove: Awful. As in- made me angry over how awful it was- awful.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (QF8uk)
Meh.
No tits.
Stretching the material as tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight as one can across one's chest does not increase breast size. She needs that pointed out to her.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (VtjlW)
50 -
So the story here is, CNN doesn't have a filter themselves? That they'll report on a girl without a filter, as if it's news?
I'm confused. Seriously you guys. CNN puts something dumb on the air.
THAT'S news???
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:09 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 26, 2013 09:10 AM (2TMW2)
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 26, 2013 09:10 AM (Fc8Zx)
So many people think that Facebook, Tweets, and email are not forever, they are.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 26, 2013 09:10 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 09:11 AM (rFq1t)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:11 AM (LCRYB)
"But what happens to people who train themselves to believe they can't sin, because their every sin is sanctified by the Cult of the Left?"
CS Lewis understood this perfectly:
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. "The key of course being, "with the approval of their own conscience". It is the cult of "if it feels good, do it".
Posted by: Jess1 at April 26, 2013 09:11 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: mindful guy - What? Sorry. at April 26, 2013 09:11 AM (U13jb)
What the hell kind of investigative analysis is this?
Posted by: Albie Damned at April 26, 2013 09:12 AM (Yhu4q)
I'm confused. Seriously you guys. CNN puts something dumb on the air.
THAT'S news???
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CNN had to put it on. Otherwise they might have had to cover the Gosnell trial.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:12 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:12 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: fly at April 26, 2013 09:12 AM (4H+Kl)
Hatred is specifically prohibited, EXCEPT for certain designated groups. Such groups include conservatives, smokers, and fat people. Fat conservative smokers are fucking fucked.
Posted by: Wodeshed, channeling George Jones at April 26, 2013 09:12 AM (a9L+B)
Posted by: eleven at April 26, 2013 09:12 AM (fsLdt)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:12 AM (nH8jP)
Gee, there are consequences for blasting-out your crazy for the entire freaking world to see? Who'd-a-thunk?
Posted by: DocJ at April 26, 2013 09:13 AM (A5uiv)
I agree. I agree that the left is a bunch of fucking hypocrites. The same shit they wishcast onto conservatives, like that we'd all love to live in the real life version of The Scarlet Letter, is just hunky-dory when they do it.
Because they are the Chosen. Or something.
In fact, I stipulate that a requirement to be a liberal is a willing and earnest desire to engage in hypocrisy and the denial of reality.
Still, young Rebecca told us much about herself, and I wouldn't even give her a job as an intern because of it. Ever.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 26, 2013 09:13 AM (sbV1u)
Everybody's a libertarian for himself and a fascist for everybody else.
Me, I like people speaking their minds. I want to know who the assholes are up front. Not that this girl is; in her world, her tribeswomen weren't holding up their end, as silly as it is to outsiders. Personally, I find an energetic call for accountability refreshing, no matter what the environment.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 26, 2013 09:13 AM (celt+)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:14 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 01:11 PM (LCRYB)
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Well said. In fact, judging is about all they do; well, that, and looking for scapegoats.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 09:14 AM (D5iHx)
Posted by: ref: The entire AoSHQ comment base at April 26, 2013 09:14 AM (U13jb)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 26, 2013 09:14 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: [/i]akula51 at April 26, 2013 09:14 AM (Vgn84)
But at some point I'd like to also see an acknowledgement of the Even More Deeply Judgmental Left, who doesn't even believe that Jesus said that stuff at all.
***
Over at NRO there's a story about the left's attempt to exclude Evangelicals as adoptive parents because they're all hatey and judgmental and stuff.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:14 AM (Hx5uv)
Re my prev: That's precisely why wheelchair-bound American Indian bisexual women who own guns and occasionally vote republican are so appealing to me.
It's sort of like Toulouse Lautrec and the cross-eyed redheads.
Posted by: Wodeshed, channeling George Jones at April 26, 2013 09:14 AM (a9L+B)
Same here and there is nothing more tedious than being dragged into a big room in a dorm for a ceremony where a bunch of girls stand in a circle and pass around a candle until the twit who got pinned by her frat boy blows out it out. I refused to go after the first one.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 26, 2013 09:15 AM (kXoT0)
no diagrams--moving pictures, sequentially, in slo-mo.
for the record / accuracy's sake......
Posted by: Jerry Jack in Jacksonville, maintaining a simulacrum of normality at April 26, 2013 09:15 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 01:09 PM (INYkK)
Wrong; it's more like she'll be better off on her own.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 26, 2013 09:15 AM (/cTO2)
They never did understand how, on an instinctual level, the "Frat boy" was more appealing to the American voter than the awkward goof who was either the teacher's pet (Gore) or the ROTC guy who's a little too obsessed with military order and petty customs (Kerry)
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 09:16 AM (XQzGn)
it is not a national story
the local chapter should have been able to handle it in anonymity
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The MSM didn't cover Gosnell because it was a local story.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:16 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 12:57 PM (INYkK)
She came across like an immature a-hole, but if during my undergrad days my fraternity had asked members to resign (or we "de-brothered" them) for "comments (that were) ill advised, stupid, rude and crude," we would have lost half of our members. I'm sure the same thing is true for most groups, organizations, teams, etc. -- especially those involving in their late teens/early 20s -- not just the Greek system. Wanting to ruin this girl's life by making this e-mail a bigger issue than it is bothers me. Jeez, I would hate for I did that was inappropriate (though not illegal) hound me to the point where it would have a huge negative impact on my livelihood into my adult years.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 09:16 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Emmanuel Goldstein at April 26, 2013 09:16 AM (2b46R)
Posted by: Jay in PA at April 26, 2013 09:17 AM (WSgyE)
Posted by: Idle Time, Idle Mind at April 26, 2013 09:17 AM (pmsMR)
Posted by: Saber Alter at April 26, 2013 09:17 AM (8V74Y)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:17 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: ee Cummings at April 26, 2013 09:17 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 26, 2013 09:17 AM (deaac)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (Fc8Zx)
No offense taken, ace. I dunno, maybe your right. I guess my basic life philosophy is, "Sure, I'll judge that...and that's my opinion. But you are free to do as you want." Another way to put it is, "I have standards." We all do. Mine might be different from others. They get to have theirs, I get to have mine.
That's what I'm doing here. She has no right to my approval, and I have a right to withhold it. It's not like it affects her life, or anyone else's.
But at some point I'd like to also see an acknowledgement of the Even More Deeply Judgmental Left, who doesn't even believe that Jesus said that stuff at all.
Absolutely concur. See my post at #92
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Justamom of the LiB camp at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (/McNP)
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (/PCJa)
"She came across like an immature a-hole, but if during my undergrad days my fraternity had asked members to resign (or we "de-brothered" them) for "comments (that were) ill advised, stupid, rude and crude," we would have lost half of our members"
Only half? What were you, the politness brigade?
(heh)
Posted by: Jess1 at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 26, 2013 01:13 PM (sbV1u)
I concur. I restrain a great deal of anger of my own on a daily basis, and so I understand what it is to bite one's tongue when all you really want to do is go on a really major tirade.
I read that young woman's comments. For the life of me, I could not figure out what exactly was getting her so fired up.
People acting silly at a ball game? Someone speaking badly of 'the sorority'? I'm still not entirely sure, I was kinda perplexed trying to make sense of the rambling.
I could not hire a person with so much rage over... so much nothing. Really, there are matters in this world worth being furious over. o.o None of her incoherent blatherings touched on any of them.
I cannot imagine that she'd make either a stable, or even a friendly employee.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:18 AM (KBKz/)
And it's a real shame that she felt compelled to resign.
Posted by: Kensington at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (Yy2ZT)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (vHxiM)
There's a saying in Christianity that "God is difficult, but he is not impossible."
In my 30+ years (all of it in the Church), I have never once heard this statement said by a Christian. In fact, this is the first time I recall hearing (or, in this case: seeing) this statement at all.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: imp at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: Knave at April 26, 2013 01:18 PM (cipri)
Back in the stores in July.....without unions.
Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/u][/s] at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: brando at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (IPGju)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (INYkK)
Well, yeah. It's obviously more important than Gosnell's baby killing, or finding out about the survivors of Benghazi.
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Exactly. Those are local stories, while c**t p*****g is a national crisis.
Posted by: Wodeshed, channeling George Jones at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (a9L+B)
Posted by: DangerGirl at April 26, 2013 09:19 AM (wzmJ0)
So, Miss Teen Delaware got an offer to be the face of a pr0n site.
When are you going to offer this girl a co-blogger spot, Ace?
Posted by: LibertarianJim (#teamletitburn) at April 26, 2013 09:20 AM (WDCYi)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 09:20 AM (rFq1t)
Posted by: Emmanuel Goldstein
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Well played (golf clap).
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 26, 2013 09:20 AM (celt+)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:11 PM (rFq1t)
That made me laugh. There is certainly a lot of truth in that paragraph (though the "better lookin'" part doesn't apply to me), especially the end part about networking.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 09:21 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:21 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at April 26, 2013 09:21 AM (XrGnJ)
Posted by: Country Singer at April 26, 2013 09:21 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: Jay in PA at April 26, 2013 09:21 AM (WSgyE)
Well color me a scold. We could use a little (a lot actually) more judgementalism nowadays. We don't do people favors by keeping our mouths shut while they are screwing up.
I do agree that the left gets to play passive agressor by claiming the mantle of non-judgement. I find it particularly galling in the area of sin. They have chased the idea of biblical moral judgement from the public square but replaced it with their own set of sins; smoking, not recycling, disapproval of homosexuality etc.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at April 26, 2013 09:22 AM (WVMUQ)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 09:22 AM (D5iHx)
Posted by: [/i]akula51 at April 26, 2013 09:22 AM (Vgn84)
Posted by: geoff at April 26, 2013 09:22 AM (ztNZ1)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:22 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 26, 2013 09:23 AM (QF8uk)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:23 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 26, 2013 09:23 AM (deaac)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 26, 2013 09:23 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Jay in PA at April 26, 2013 09:23 AM (WSgyE)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 26, 2013 09:23 AM (+x8q5)
there is nothing important going on like benghazi, , fast and furious, unemployment , millions on foodstamps.
debt crisis that will crash america?
Posted by: willow at April 26, 2013 09:23 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: jwb7605 ([i][u]Let it Burn[/u][/i])[/s][/b] at April 26, 2013 09:23 AM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at April 26, 2013 09:24 AM (staER)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:20 PM (rFq1t)
As I said, she Tweeted this stuff to her sisters and it got picked up, the way Twitter stuff does. Do I agree with the decision to make her pay for her rants? I do not, but, actions have consequences. Lord knows some of mine bit me, big time.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 26, 2013 09:24 AM (kXoT0)
I think we make a mistake when we stay liberals are stupid. It takes a lot of mental firepower to twist simple concepts like hate and racism into entire belief systems.
Posted by: Gordon at April 26, 2013 09:24 AM (2sT0g)
Posted by: Soona at April 26, 2013 09:24 AM (hTpC2)
"If the Committee of the Whole declares someone persona non grata and Not of the Body, then all taboos against hate are rescinded and you are permitted -- nay, obligated -- to direct as much hatred towards that Designated Hate Object as your blackened heart may contain."
Boy, that sounds bad. I'd hate for something like that to happen to me.
Posted by: jwest at April 26, 2013 09:24 AM (u2a4R)
I wasn't totally following Ace's point in his main post, but his first comment in the thread cleared it up.
Dan Savage is a classic example of this type of behavior. H8Rs don't hate, unless he decides who he hates (fat women, Christians, the barista who annoyed him last week) and then he brings to bear the full power of his Hate Star on them.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 26, 2013 09:24 AM (RZ8pf)
"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried." G.K. Chesterton
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 26, 2013 09:24 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Body Builder at April 26, 2013 09:24 AM (DrC22)
When are you going to offer this girl a co-blogger spot, Ace?
Posted by: LibertarianJim (#teamletitburn) at April 26, 2013 01:20 PM (WDCYi)
Is it the same site she did the porn for?
Posted by: buzzion at April 26, 2013 09:25 AM (LI48c)
she is what feminism has taught her to be:
slut and bitch
Posted by: Shoey at April 26, 2013 09:25 AM (jdOk/)
Correction -- she wrote a FUCKING AWESOME email.
I don't know the first thing about the quality of the Delta Gamma-Sigma Nu social gatherings, but after reading that email, I am 100% CONVINCED that she is 100% accurate.
It's something like 90% of the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of creating the sorority in the first place is to BE FUN AT PARTIES. I don't need to have seen anything other than the content of this email to have a very clear image of the cockblock sisters she's talking about, standing around, complaining about everything and generally being a pain in the ass.
She is apparently the only one who gets it. If I had a PR department, I'd hire her fucking TODAY. Hell, I'd hire her as the head of Human Resources AND the PR department.
But she has to RESIGN over this? What the fucking FUCK, America?
Posted by: Phinn at April 26, 2013 09:25 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 26, 2013 09:25 AM (deaac)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 26, 2013 09:25 AM (T0NGe)
"When they gave one of the monkeys grapes instead of cucumber slices, the remaining monkeys threw a fit, even going so far as to fling the cucumber slices at the researchers. "
Trust me on this - said researchers should've been very, very glad that they had given the monkeys something, er, else to throw, as the (monkeys) are really, really good at tossing something else...
Posted by: Jess1 at April 26, 2013 09:26 AM (lbiWb)
Posted by: Up with people! at April 26, 2013 09:26 AM (FmFB3)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 09:26 AM (rFq1t)
Probably majors in womyn's studies/English lit/psych/underwater basket weaving and looking for "Biff" or "Chaz" to marry her....
Posted by: Mjolnir, Banhammer from the Gates of Hell at April 26, 2013 09:26 AM (Jls4P)
Posted by: The Girls of Gamma Delta at April 26, 2013 09:26 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: RiverC at April 26, 2013 09:27 AM (El+h4)
Ace, you are so right re the need to "judge" others. Even in church they do it all the time!! It's like a necessary human condition or something.
Blah.
But you buried the fucking lede. The chick is smoking hot!!!!!! And with an attitude like that, DOUBLE POINTS!!!
Posted by: Prescient11 at April 26, 2013 09:27 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:11 PM (rFq1t)
I freely admit, I was uncertain whether or not this was satire... but fridge logic set in, and I see the post as the writer's honest feelings - and I cannot help but laugh.
I'm going out to celebrate, as a high-school dropout running a business employing forty folks, that I was not one of the fraternity chaps that fancy themselves my boss, because they play fast and loose with morality and value what God does not.
Thanks very much, Chuckles, for the laugh. I needed that on a Friday.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:27 AM (KBKz/)
But I do think there's a problem when this behavior is championed as a Sanctified Expression of Coordinated Outrage rather than just acknowledging it as what it is, a human failing, a human weakness, one that cannot itself be judged too harshly but also must not be exulted.
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Sure you didn't lift that from Deepak Chopra?
Posted by: Wodeshed, channeling George Jones at April 26, 2013 09:27 AM (a9L+B)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 26, 2013 09:28 AM (vuIm8)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/c39ygbr
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:28 AM (Hx5uv)
If every mother fucking comment you posted on here was blasted in CNN all day how long would you have jobs, friends, and or face no consequences?
I want to cunt punt some of you now.
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:26 PM (rFq1t)
Holy cow, you're serious. LOL
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:28 AM (KBKz/)
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 26, 2013 09:28 AM (Fc8Zx)
Correction -- she wrote a FUCKING AWESOME email.
Yes, and Delta Gamma could have rallied behind her, pointing out the obvious fact that it was, in fact, a very funny rant written for an intimate audience.
Apparently some panties were twisted.
Posted by: geoff at April 26, 2013 09:28 AM (ztNZ1)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:28 AM (nH8jP)
"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried." G.K. Chesterton
See? That I've heard. I've never heard the quote Ace mentioned.
I'm not completely disagreeing with it, just mentioning that I'd never heard it.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 26, 2013 09:28 AM (/PCJa)
Posted by: wg at April 26, 2013 09:28 AM (ZNjiH)
Ms. Martinson's use of "cunt punt" was pretty epic.
Posted by: Ernie McCracken - Martinson Fan at April 26, 2013 09:28 AM (ZETiK)
Her original email was trying to get the sisters more active and involved and to appreciate the interest of the guys that wanted them partially because few of the other male groups wanted much to do with them if there were other options available.
It's not just mean girl - it's mean "pretty" girl against ugly duckling victims. Another thing the media can't resist
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 09:29 AM (XQzGn)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 26, 2013 09:29 AM (u6lBN)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 26, 2013 09:29 AM (+x8q5)
Fertik tells CNN, "She’s going to have to work very hard to show that she's taken this experience and used it to grow into a more mature, thoughtful, tolerant and compassionate person.”
I love CNNs presumption that there will even be a functioning economy in the years ahead for this girl to be employed. They've flounderpunted her future a hell of a lot more than she has.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 26, 2013 09:29 AM (zF6Iw)
By calling it 'hate' you privilege their supposed intentions. It's not always 'hate' if you're on their other end of the transaction. It could be, as Evan Sayet says, discrimination; as in the act of making judgements.
As conservatives, we're not exercising 'hate' when we insist on standards of behavior and of governance. We are hopefully using reason and facts of human nature to achieve optimal outcomes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 26, 2013 09:30 AM (Yr6sH)
As far as "hypocritical scandals" go from the left, exactly. See how they went after a TN congressmen for allegedly cheating on his wife and then paying for his mistress' abortion.
How is infidelity and abortion a scandal to the left?? Fuck, it's their platform.
But they point the finger and say oh, look at that scandalous GOP. Kinda like finding a GOP pol. is gay. Again, why is being gay subject to ridicule. It's their fucking platform!!!
It's the heads-I-win-tails-you-lose approach.
GOP pol gets an abortion or cheats on their wife or is gay = SCANDAL.
Dem does it = how dare you question my personal life you bigot Bible thumper...
Posted by: Prescient11 at April 26, 2013 09:30 AM (tVTLU)
Maybe it's more of a Catholic expression"
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It may be a Catholic expression, but if so I don't think it's a particularly thoughtful expression, because, as a Catholic, I think God does tend to ask the impossible of us.
I've never personally heard this expression, but it sounds similar to the notion that "God never gives us more than we can handle." That one I hear A LOT, and I also think it's largely crap, because one of God's appeals is that He's there for us when things are impossible to handle.
Posted by: Kensington at April 26, 2013 09:30 AM (Yy2ZT)
All of this is just bullshitting around the real reason, and that is that she is perceived as one of the privileged class and therefore must be destroyed.
The rant was damned funny, and she should be a guest blogger at some bloge where profanity is appreciated.
Any ideas?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2013 09:30 AM (/WLC3)
Did they at least make sandwiches for them?
*runs*
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 09:31 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: typo dynamofo at April 26, 2013 01:22 PM (WVMUQ)
I'm as judgemental as you can get; if I wasn't I'd still be posting at Cahrsel Shoojnn's circle jerk like a fucking drone. The worst fucking thing that ever happened to our excuse for a culture was buying into that "I'm ok; you're ok" nonsense. Fuck that shit; I'm great and you suck massive cock.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 26, 2013 09:31 AM (/cTO2)
As for "God is difficult, but he is not impossible"--I haven't heard that one, but I have heard what I think is basically the same--Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried.
Posted by: Anwyn at April 26, 2013 09:31 AM (yct8s)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 26, 2013 09:31 AM (CXoSL)
It can be done, theoretically. Joe Buck used to get requests from Conan O'Brien and viewers to work weird or archaic phrases into his baseball playoff broadcasts and he would actually do it.
Commence Operation Codswallowing Cruz
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 09:31 AM (XQzGn)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:31 AM (LCRYB)
But what happens to people who train themselves to believe they can't sin, because their every sin is sanctified by the Cult of the Left?
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 01:03 PM (LCRYB)
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They force your children into homosexual roleplay in elementary school. They put the word on the street that they will give free money to any non-white who is willing to pretend they ever thought about farming.
Eventually, they attempt to enslave those of you they find useful, and eliminate the rest.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 26, 2013 09:31 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: RiverC at April 26, 2013 09:32 AM (El+h4)
Worse, when that a-hole is in front of you at the grocery store
Posted by: Gordon at April 26, 2013 09:32 AM (2sT0g)
I don't think Martinson should be embarrassed at all. It wasn't a "stupid email." It was an awesomely funny email. It was hilarious, and I don't think it lacked self-awareness either. She's just not at all ashamed to be a gung-ho sorority girl, demanding the very best sorority girliness from her tribe. No cock-blockers at the Sigma Nu party! If you can't step up your game, you are cunt punted!
People try to become number 1 in everything in this country and as ambitions go, shooting to be the hottest chicks in the greek universe is well up towards middling, and going for number 1 in anything often requires a tough-love coach. She should be proud of her willingness to go way over the top in her coaching service to her sisters, and I hope she can find as much fun in it as the many consumers of her semi-intentional humor have. I also hope that her sorority sisters have the wisdom and the grace to make a big display of championing her service and urging her back.
Rebecca Martinson for (sorority) President! At the least she should take a victory lap as a humorist. How about a semi-serious advice column for sorority sisters? The plusses and minuses of dating greeks vs. dating geeks? Rebecca Martinson vs. Howard Walowitz. Come on Rebecca, let yourself back into the zone. Your fan club wants MORE.
Posted by: Alec Rawls at April 26, 2013 09:32 AM (kTTUz)
Essentially she wrote an angry blogger post about how SERIOUSLY YOU GUYS YOU'RE LOSING THE ELECTION FOR US WITH YOUR DUMB COMMENTS ABOUT STUFF 'N STUFF.
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 01:21 PM (LCRYB)
See, now I just feel badly for her. Everyone has the capacity to choose right from wrong, and, in this case, smart from stupid, but peer pressure, and the culture around a child, does indeed warp their personalities.
Gosh, I really feel bad for this girl now. -_- Still wouldn't hire her, because I wouldn't want the headache or the work environment that'd result, but holy wow what a world this is. Sigh...
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:32 AM (KBKz/)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 26, 2013 09:32 AM (nnkXw)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 09:32 AM (D5iHx)
Posted by: soothsayer at April 26, 2013 09:32 AM (oxIUw)
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There was a news story the other day that 85% of children are bullied. If 85% are bullied, then it's not bullying, it's life.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:33 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 26, 2013 01:25 PM (OWjjx)
I think some of it has to do with the fact that most journalists were non-Greeks (there are obvious exceptions). Hell, I've been out of college for almost 20 years and I have peers that are still bitter towards the Greek system. Also, consider that Greek organizations to them (as well as to academia in general) personify the "1%" that they hate so much, it's no big surprise that they would seize upon an opportunity to further the "rich, white-priveledged bully" meme.
Posted by: Country Singer at April 26, 2013 09:33 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 26, 2013 09:33 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 09:34 AM (rFq1t)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 09:34 AM (INYkK)
I think she's trying to mimic the 'cute girl that talks mean/dirty' image... given the prevalence of image in our culture, it's almost impossible to read personality into a smattering of public texts.
Posted by: RiverC at April 26, 2013 09:34 AM (El+h4)
Like guilt, it is an emotion which is only useful in small quantities.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 26, 2013 09:34 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 26, 2013 09:34 AM (Fc8Zx)
Posted by: Jay in PA at April 26, 2013 01:21 PM (WSgyE)
San Francisco lefties are always "outraged." I think, instead, they are "unhinged." They believe that their crazy anger gives their lives meaning. Thanks for the link.
Posted by: kathysaysso at April 26, 2013 09:34 AM (6H6o8)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 26, 2013 09:34 AM (bb5+k)
The TV is filled with horrible Judge These Cretins reality tv shows precisely to divert people away from their own inadequacies and weaknesses by giving them a newfangled Goon Show to gawk at.
THIS x 1000.
Posted by: Prescient11 at April 26, 2013 09:35 AM (tVTLU)
Alternative theory:
She had to resigned because she exposed the inner core of what sororities are all about (hint it's not about "common academic goals" "charity" or fostering better women.")
In doing so she bought embarrassment to the group by scratching it's veneer (and showing it to be made of cheap compressed particle board.)
Posted by: tsrblke at April 26, 2013 09:35 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: buzzion at April 26, 2013 09:35 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: Generation F@%cked at April 26, 2013 09:35 AM (HlUFk)
I vote John de Lancie for presenting said class. There is no man more qualified to educate folks on deliver witty repartee than Q.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:35 AM (KBKz/)
I'm sorry, what precisely was her crime? Because this sure as hell reads no different than I'd expect some legal expert to write about the Boston Bomber in a few years. And by G-d, there's a difference.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at April 26, 2013 09:35 AM (XrGnJ)
Posted by: t-dubyah-d at April 26, 2013 09:35 AM (u6lBN)
She had to resigned because she exposed the inner core of what sororities are all about (hint it's not about "common academic goals" "charity" or fostering better women.")
In doing so she bought embarrassment to the group by scratching it's veneer (and showing it to be made of cheap compressed particle board.)
Posted by: tsrblke at April 26, 2013 01:35 PM (GaqMa)
Yup, just like beauty pageants are all about the scholarship.s
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 26, 2013 09:36 AM (kXoT0)
I suspect it is just a veneer.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 26, 2013 01:34 PM (bb5+k)
Who was it who said yesterday that we were going to find out soon just how thin a veneer civilization really is?
Can't remember the thread...
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:36 AM (KBKz/)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:36 AM (LCRYB)
She had to resigned because she exposed the inner core of what sororities are all about (hint it's not about "common academic goals" "charity" or fostering better women.")
In doing so she bought embarrassment to the group by scratching it's veneer (and showing it to be made of cheap compressed particle board.)
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For whom was her email a revelation of these facts? I don't think anyone under 65 believes the Greek bullshit.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 26, 2013 09:36 AM (nnkXw)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 26, 2013 09:36 AM (3Znbm)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:11 PM (rFq1t)
I was never in a fraternity, myself. After 4 years in the infantry, the very last thing I wanted to do in college was hang out with the guys. I understood its attractions, though.
But you're right: there is an element of envy involved whenever nerdy, not-fratlike guys talk about fratlike guys, atheletes particularly, and this envy seems to go on well into adulthood with some of these people. For them, it must be like a corner of hell where Michael Moore is forced to meet Charlton Heston, forever.
Posted by: troyriser at April 26, 2013 09:36 AM (vtiE6)
She may have done this with the knowledge THAT SHE WOULD BE CANNED, like the angry letter you write when everything is going to crap at work before you quit.
Posted by: RiverC at April 26, 2013 09:36 AM (El+h4)
Posted by: Andy at April 26, 2013 09:36 AM (C/NnJ)
John de Lancie is a classically trained Shakesperian actor. He knows how to lay it out without sounding like EoJ.
Another good candidate would be Dennis Miller. He gets deep, sometimes a little too deep, with his verbal daggers.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 09:36 AM (GQ8sn)
In my 30+ years (all of it in the Church), I have never once heard this statement said by a Christian. In fact, this is the first time I recall hearing (or, in this case: seeing) this statement at all.
Nor I, and it is really bad theology - the whole point of the Law is that it is impossible to follow, and therefore the only salvation is through Jesus Christ.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 26, 2013 09:37 AM (BVq31)
.....right before they walk into the textbook L-shaped ambush and are gunned down with short three to five round bursts.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 26, 2013 09:37 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 26, 2013 09:37 AM (Fc8Zx)
His thing re: that stuff was that in dispensing with unquestionable supernatural justifications--as we've unwisely obligated ourselves to do--all values become subjects of intellectual scrutiny, and they can't withstand it. Any inquiry into their origins, uses, effects, etc. reveals them as lies, rationalizations, masks of power-seeking--which is the only provable, stable, true (in the earthly sense of "true") human value. Knowing this, people will do horrible shit in their efforts to unknow it.
Dude was not insane...until he was. He was disturbed. He saw the future, and it was this.
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C-P girl is annoying and has good hair. We should get her and Ricin Elvis together to console each other. Maybe they'll breed a race of super-not-villains.
Posted by: oblig. the bold at April 26, 2013 09:37 AM (cePv8)
I will keep noting that I think the urge to believe oneself Better than others, and knock them low for their misdemeanors so that we may look down upon their fallen forms, is so central to the human wiring that there's almost no point in objecting to it.
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You must have stolen that from the pitch meeting for "Survivor" which kicked off the current reality TV craze.
Also, you're fat.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 26, 2013 09:37 AM (CJjw5)
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My mistake. It's five pound note. It's all limey money anyway.
Posted by: WalrusRex at April 26, 2013 09:38 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 09:38 AM (+bE6w)
Posted by: Dave S. at April 26, 2013 09:38 AM (d4o2E)
>>A pass? A pass for what?
I didn't realize we had jurisdiction here. <<
Thread winner. (At the risk of sucking up to Ace).
This is the wedge that's going to split us apart. Also, faster please. It's Judgers on the social right and the "none of my business" libertarians.
It was an inspired rant. It hinted that she might be a whiny bitch, but I'm not dating her and now I can look for excuses to say "cunt punt". So, it's all win from this corner.
Also, as a former fraternity boy I can tell you I hated sorority girls. Except the ones who banged me. They were nice.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 26, 2013 09:38 AM (A0sHn)
Left quarter-profile.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 09:38 AM (GQ8sn)
S. McEvil:
Correct. There is no one pound note. Speaking of Winston Churchill, I am into book 3 of the 6 book series from Hillsdale College.
Sweet fuck it's a long read and rather dry. Can't wait to get to WWII. But it's written in this weird form where there's a shit ton of letters interspersed in the book. And I mean almost every other page.
So it's a very first hand look at Churchill's mind and his thoughts. And they write in the most interesting shorthand. Food for thought. Not sure if I'd recommend it, but now I am knowledgable about the Boer war and Churchill's escape as a POW.
Posted by: Prescient11 at April 26, 2013 09:38 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:38 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 01:32 PM (D5iHx)
Been searching for a funny joke to try to brighten you up after that thought, but yeah... coming up empty.
-.- Maybe I won't go out this evening after all. Maybe I'll just pour a tall cream soda, and stare darkly at my wood stove all evening.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:39 AM (KBKz/)
H8R!!!11!!!
Posted by: Anti H8R Who H8z H8RZ at April 26, 2013 09:39 AM (mCvL4)
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Anthony Wiener, on the other hand...
Posted by: Nighthawk at April 26, 2013 09:39 AM (OtQXp)
http://news.yahoo.com/finest-hour-churchill-uk-bank-note-111219520--finance.html
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 26, 2013 09:39 AM (kXoT0)
Your hash is a H8 hash, therefore you're a H8R and we're going to key your car and get you fired from your job. Then we're going to attack your children
H8R!!!11!!!
Posted by: Anti H8R Who H8z H8RZ at April 26, 2013 09:39 AM (mCvL4)
That girl is a national treasure as far as I am concerned.
Ok, not a national treasure, but I like her fire and spunk.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 26, 2013 09:39 AM (jKWYf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 09:40 AM (INYkK)
Disappointing.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 09:40 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Prescient11 at April 26, 2013 09:40 AM (tVTLU)
Hey moron I never pointed anyone out and I qualified that statement with "a lot of the hate at fraternities comes from" those people who....and then went on my stereo typing. I could give a fuck less what you do, your business or your trouble with high school,
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:38 PM (+bE6w)
Ain't no trouble at all, Smiles, I quit 'cause I didn't need it. Don't give me your "qualified" this and that tripe, stick to your guns or go home. XD C'mon now.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:40 AM (KBKz/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 09:41 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: kbdabear at April 26, 2013 09:41 AM (mCvL4)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 26, 2013 09:41 AM (kXoT0)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at April 26, 2013 09:41 AM (7ObY1)
Only half? What were you, the politness brigade?
(heh)
Posted by: Jess1 at April 26, 2013 01:18 PM (lbiWb)
Believe me, I was being VERY conservative with my estimate. The crap I had to deal with when I was President of the fraternity, which usually involved the same 5-10 brothers, prepared me well for crisis management in the business world.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 09:42 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:42 AM (nH8jP)
I guess part of this is people thinking, "Wow, I'm glad I'm not a mean person with issues like she is."
I feel the same way whenever people make an issue over celebrities giving press a piece of their mind.
You don't know if it's a real pattern from one occurrence, and it's often more just a kind of schadenfreude, "hah, x or y person isn't such a great person after all, are they?"
Strange that the more 'liberal' society has become, the less people are able to roll their eyes at offensive or bad behavior done by adults. God help if you have a bad day and tell someone you don't like Jews or Gays or Blacks or Women.
It takes awhile to establish patterns on these things, and mostly I consider it none of my business.
Posted by: RiverC at April 26, 2013 09:42 AM (El+h4)
The saddest part of the whole thing is this is the same people that have sympathy for Jawbreaker Boston Terrorist dude.
Yet this girl is worse because she read the riot act to her 'sisters'.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 26, 2013 09:42 AM (jKWYf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 09:43 AM (INYkK)
If the Committee of the Whole declares someone persona non grata and Not of the Body, then all taboos against hate are rescinded and you are permitted -- nay, obligated -- to direct as much hatred towards that Designated Hate Object as your blackened heart may contain.
This is not limited to liberals.
Posted by: Rocky the 3 Legged Dog at April 26, 2013 09:43 AM (SPC50)
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 26, 2013 01:36 PM (nnkXw)
Parents shell out thousands for their kids to join greek societies for what? The purchasing of social events?
I submit that deep down they know it's just a way to buy friends and provide access to parties (read: sex) but they don't admit it.
Cognitive dissidence it's a strange thing.
But then something like this happens which could possibly (in some but not all cases) lay the truth so bare the dissidence cannot survive it.
That's potentially damaging to any organization (or group of organizations) that relies on this to draw in their money.
Hell there is a particular fraternity that I've noticed has a national reputation for...shall we say "probably illegal bedding tactics." Several people across multiple campuses in multiple states have been able to identify this frat when I use the more direct form of my obfuscation in quotes above.
Yet parents still pay to have their kids join this frat. So clearly cognitive dissidence is a necessary (but not sufficient) condition to keep greek life alive (and money flowing).
So kinda like the unions I guess.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 26, 2013 09:43 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:43 AM (LCRYB)
How frustrating would that sound to you? She takes her job seriously.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 09:44 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 26, 2013 09:44 AM (+x8q5)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:34 PM (rFq1t)
Kathy Griffin has a career, but this email is BEYOND THE FUCKING PALE AND SHE THAT WROTE IT MUST BE DESTROYED.
It was sometime around 1998 that all of Western Civilization zigged when I zagged. I've gotten used to not being in sync with mainstream opinion.
But if people are GENUINELY UPSET that the social chair of a sorority hurt the fee-fees of the asshole freshmen who were ruining their mixers with their shitty attitudes, and she used some potty-mouth words in the process, then I guess I really did take some crazy pills at some point.
Posted by: Phinn at April 26, 2013 09:44 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: soothsayer
you talking about me?
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 01:38 PM (nH8jP)
For that reason she probably wasn't sorority material from the get-go. This incident will doubtlessly cause her to be better off.
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 26, 2013 09:44 AM (/cTO2)
Posted by: Madamex at April 26, 2013 09:45 AM (Tj05I)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 09:45 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Aloha Akhbar @PirateBallerina at April 26, 2013 09:45 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: Not an Artist at April 26, 2013 09:45 AM (uRumV)
Posted by: brak at April 26, 2013 09:45 AM (iEoiA)
Posted by: nip at April 26, 2013 09:45 AM (lGVXf)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 26, 2013 09:45 AM (C8mVl)
Posted by: tsrblke at April 26, 2013 01:43 PM (GaqMa)
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Funny, when I hire, somebody with a frat designation on their resume loses points with me. Somebody who pulled 18 hour semesters or worked their way through tends to beat out the kids who spend their free time learning how to suck up.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 09:46 AM (D5iHx)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 09:46 AM (+bE6w)
The puzzler is that the same consequences of stigmatization do not apply to politicians and celebs. The answer is, I suppose, is in the presentation by the media.
Posted by: ee Cummings at April 26, 2013 09:46 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 09:46 AM (INYkK)
Is this about controlling the meme even into sororities? I mean why else would it matter one bit? Do people actually have rights to have an opinion within their groups, or are groups assigned only those chosen to be correct thoughts that can be shared , Did they lay out the rules for correct speech , are there such rules..between sorority sisters?
cnn-lets' have a national conversation about What You are allowed to approve and disapprove , But we will be the final deciders, cause WE care.
Posted by: willow at April 26, 2013 09:47 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 26, 2013 09:47 AM (bb5+k)
Easy.
Sigma Phi Hair Salon
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 09:47 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 01:43 PM (LCRYB)
You're not fooling anyone...pocket pool is pocket pool.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2013 09:47 AM (/WLC3)
"Judging and Selecting an Ostracized Person for Coordinated Social Scorning" sounds an awful lot like what they are doing to football as well; articles like the one in the Chicago Trib sounding the death knell for the sport, expressing Concern for what the game is doing to kids, etc. After Chechnan in the Rye, next it will be boxing is eeeevil, cause head injuries = terrorist, then basketball, soccer, wrestling, lacrosse. . .
Posted by: LizLem at April 26, 2013 09:47 AM (8wqqE)
I didn't read Ace's Movie Review for the flick called Potty-Mouth Sorority Girl Rage Party, but I did just call Delta Gamma to find contact information for an address for Ms. Martinson, so I can get in touch with her and find out what her future plans are. She graduates next year, and perhaps she'd like to move to Bellevue, Washington and bust her ass with someone who, like she will in the next few weeks, has pretty much lost everything in the last year and is completely starting over.
I'm turning 50 in June, my second divorce is final next Friday, I'm shutting down my Real Estate Litigation practice of 18 years in September and switching careers to Real Estate Broker next month, and also joining the management team of a new Green Energy Technology company next month. I like Ms. Martinson's Chutzpah for sending out that E-mail to her KG Sisters, and man, does it ever piss me the fuck off when people get crushed by the national media like this. She doesn't know it, but she might be hearing from someone who'll give her another chance soon.
So I got the contact info from the chick that answered the phone, said "thanks," then said: "So, you laughed your ass off when you read that e-mail, didn't you?" And she said: "Ahhhhh, no comment on that!"
Good fucking times, man. Good times.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 26, 2013 09:47 AM (03IDC)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 26, 2013 09:47 AM (+x8q5)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 26, 2013 09:47 AM (DrWcr)
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No! You're overreaching. Don't assume that everyone on the "social right" agrees with Fenelon Spoke.
Being "social right" does not obligate anyone to join the bashing crowd on this girl. It's a bit more complicated than jumping on a judgmental bandwagon over a vulgar email.
Posted by: Kensington at April 26, 2013 09:48 AM (Yy2ZT)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 26, 2013 09:48 AM (+x8q5)
I dig that money too. I get some more every time I go over. You know, this whole story hits on a much larger point, which is the complete
PUSSIFICATION OF SOCIETY.
This girl, the Rutgers coach. I was paddled in public school barely 20 some years ago. Our basketball coach would make us run suicide sprints in the gym after they just varnished/treated it after Christmas break, and half of us would puke in the trash cans.
This was intentional.
My football coach used to grab our face masks and yank us around (hurts much more than a basketball being thrown at your legs, fucking trust me).
In sports, we were called pussies, faggots, girls, sissies, losers, pieces of shit. We were also encouraged and mentored and taught to do things the right way.
If I ever, and I mean ever, went crying to my mommy and daddy about what was going on, unless it was something truly egregious, the response would have been to stop being a crybaby and get back to it.
It is the complete 180 now. We are raising a nation of complete fucking babies whose "feelings" mean more than getting the job done the fucking right way. Take survivor, WHAT KIND OF A MAN STARTS FUCKING CRYING BECAUSE HE MISSES HIS MOMMY FOR 5 WEEKS. The NORKS must be salivating.
If it wasn't for nukes, in 20-30 years, we are going to be truly fucked.
Posted by: Prescient11 at April 26, 2013 09:49 AM (tVTLU)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 01:03 PM (LCRYB)
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They run for public office as Democrats- and win.
Fascinating post BTW. FWIW I've always seen the increasing emphasis of "self esteem" in our education system to correspond with an increase in self justification and a decrease in honest self assessment.
Or "Examination of Conscience" as my old fashioned Catholic vocabulary would call it.
Posted by: Nighthawk at April 26, 2013 09:49 AM (OtQXp)
Her e-mail was proof that youth is wasted on the young.
With that said, I agree this is waaaaayyyyy overblown.
Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at April 26, 2013 09:49 AM (uhftQ)
"God is difficult, but he is not impossible."
I've heard this before by my priest , I do believe its Catholic in origin.
Another I like is: God is easy to please, but hard to satisfy
Posted by: CHIPSTER at April 26, 2013 09:50 AM (KE8N2)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at April 26, 2013 09:50 AM (VtjlW)
I dig the one-pound coin. It's not much to look at but it has the heft of real money.
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 01:43 PM (LCRYB)
You're not fooling anyone...pocket pool is pocket pool.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2013 01:47 PM (/WLC3)
That's why I like the loonie and toonie ($1 and $2 Canadian coins) You toss 'em in your console and forget about them, and before you realize it, you have enough money to get drunk rattling around in your dashboard. Hell, sometimes I even have enough left over to stop at the carwash and hose the blood and matted hair out of my grill on the way home from the bar.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 26, 2013 09:50 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 26, 2013 09:51 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 26, 2013 09:51 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 09:51 AM (+bE6w)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:51 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at April 26, 2013 09:51 AM (uhftQ)
Posted by: willow at April 26, 2013 09:52 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: [/i]akula51 at April 26, 2013 09:52 AM (Vgn84)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 01:46 PM (D5iHx)
I find that sadly myopic. Fully 70% of my chapter (including myself) had a job to pay for school and/or chapter dues; in my case I was lucky, I only had to worry about the dues thanks to an academic scholarship. But I busted my ass working for the university printing department. Another one of my brothers worked as a tractor mechanic; another slung hash at the campus grill.
Posted by: Country Singer at April 26, 2013 09:52 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 26, 2013 09:52 AM (bb5+k)
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Ditto. I've worked in a company where one of the managers hired several people who had been members of his Frat. They were all assholes. The cliqueishness tainted company decisions. There was no question that others opinions were held in less regard than those of 'the brothers'. These guys were not particularly bright nor experienced. I was happy to be out of there.
Posted by: ee Cummings at April 26, 2013 09:52 AM (aDwsi)
She committed the sins of being thin and enthusiastic about something, and that something in particular was socializing with men in the traditional manner. Enthusiastic is the opposite of the detached hipster irony pose we all have to put up with from young people these days.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 26, 2013 09:52 AM (nnkXw)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 26, 2013 09:53 AM (C8mVl)
Story I'm referencing is in my sock
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 09:53 AM (XQzGn)
Look sometimes you just get stuck with the Sigma Nus. But it never hurts to be polite and nice to them you never know which one might go on to become a famous movie star.
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You know what this party needs? Wonder Joints.
Posted by: Booger at April 26, 2013 09:53 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 01:46 PM (D5iHx)
I never meant to imply this was a universal thing.
My opinion towards the greek thing clearly drifts in the opposite direction.
But they're not worried about people who don't already have good opinions of greek life going down, they're worried about the people who are in that state of disbelief losing it.
I'd hire some greeks at accountants though for my money laundering firm. I know at my university they were very cleverly redirecting money into private accounts so they could spend it on...prohibited things. It was clever. We only found one of them out because they forgot to change the principle on the account when she graduated, and as I ran the student center with the mail room in it, we had to deal with a bank statement that kept coming to a closed address, so we kicked to the Greek life department (since it had sorority name in the address after the principle's name.)
I think it was well known that the money thing was happening across the board, but we were only able to show it once 
.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 26, 2013 09:53 AM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Generation F@%cked at April 26, 2013 09:53 AM (IkHXL)
Posted by: eleven at April 26, 2013 09:53 AM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Lambda Lambda Lambda national official at April 26, 2013 09:54 AM (+x8q5)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 26, 2013 09:54 AM (BDH94)
Posted by: Jay in PA at April 26, 2013 09:55 AM (WSgyE)
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at April 26, 2013 09:55 AM (eyJh9)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 01:19 PM (INYkK)
Puh-lease. If anyone is that thin-skinned about the things she said, they wouldn't already be members of that sorority. Unless they have a benign pledging program, each of the members of that sorority were "verbally abused" (if you can even call it that) a lot worse when they were pledging.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 09:55 AM (LTbLf)
When your life is not everything that is promised by belief, utopia has not descended upon thee, it becomes necessary to focus the frustration of being not being able to achieve the unachievable at something, hence the two minute hate of 1984: Provide a scapegoat for the inability of an ideology to produce promised results.
In our ideology we can be angry, but really have no *need* for hate of any person or thing. Because we accept that freedom grants much but promises little. And so when we come up short we don't *need* a villain to blame; the world just is and sometimes things happen.
The left promises paradise. Something they will never deliver. But now they control everything, and they can't produce. So now, more than ever, they need to focus the frustration of their parishioners on made up enemies so that they don't suspect the sham of belief.
Anyone fitting a very broad profile is at risk for being the two minute hate of the week. And a new one is needed, a fresh villain, every week, to excuse the impotency of the Inparty to achieve the perfect society. I wish I could just tell this girl not to take it personally. They needed someone to bludgeon, they always need someone to bludgeon now, and she was just convenient.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 26, 2013 09:55 AM (0q2P7)
If every mother fucking comment you posted on here was blasted in CNN all day how long would you have jobs, friends, and or face no consequences?
I want to cunt punt some of you now.
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:26 PM (rFq1t)
Word.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 09:56 AM (LTbLf)
How can we make some good come from this?
All we know for sure is that she's hot and enthusiastic. It's best if I do her like a Viking who's been out to sea too long, while letting Sean and AtC watch.
Transfixed by the spectacle, lower lips trembling, both questioning their sexual orientation...
Posted by: jwest at April 26, 2013 09:56 AM (u2a4R)
in other words, she's the kind of girl who has all boy friends, no girl friends because she's got that male sense of humor and personality
Posted by: soothsayer
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She's the kind of girl that can easily work a room full of guys. Some corporation is going to hire her as a sales representative.
Posted by: Soona at April 26, 2013 09:56 AM (cVg5z)
Also, note how the so-called "sanctification" of certain types of hate on the left fits right in with the standard leftist tactic of projecting one's faults on one's enemy. They alternate between ritualistic displays of hatred (Two Minutes' Hate?), and denouncing their opponents as haters.
Posted by: Petrus at April 26, 2013 09:56 AM (ngOuh)
Posted by: tsrblke at April 26, 2013 01:43 PM (GaqMa)
"Parents shell out thousands for their kids to join greek societies"? Where do you get that idea? I had a small membership fee of $200-$300 and then had cheap rent (compared to university housing and off-campus housing) to live in the fraternity house. My parents, like many or even most of my fellow fraternity members who worked while in school, didn't pay for a penny of it.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 09:57 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Country Singer at April 26, 2013 01:52 PM (L8r/r)
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People who work their way through will either tell you about it, or it will show through. I should have said, "with frat designations and didn't pull 18 hours or work their way through".
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 09:57 AM (D5iHx)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 09:57 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 09:58 AM (5TFvk)
OK Anyone who has never been crude or verbally abusive to a family member start throwing stones.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 26, 2013 09:58 AM (0q2P7)
If only she had done something the Libs admire, like irresponsibly getting pregnant and then having the baby killed...
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 26, 2013 09:58 AM (BaQuW)
I saw many young ladies on graduation day at Camp Geiger.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 09:59 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Tilikum The Killer Assault Whale at April 26, 2013 01:51 PM (uhftQ)
Negative. I think I just met Mrs. Sharkman III on E-harmony last night.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 26, 2013 09:59 AM (03IDC)
Posted by: tasker at April 26, 2013 09:59 AM (r2PLg)
What the fuck are you talking about? I wasnt even speaking to you. This is like if i said "hey douchebag" and you turned around cause you answer to that. Don't get on my case cause you are super defensive about your lack of college and have to rant about how you are such a bad ass online with 50000 employees and no high school cause you are so fucking awesome. Sorry bad ass, I take it all back. You defeated me by bringing up how much of a bad ass you are.
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:51 PM (+bE6w)
It ain't that, fly boy. It's just that I've got this horrible personal problem.
I just can't bloody stand folks who think they're the cat's pajamas. I feel like I've got to let them know the world isn't all they make it to be.
Stuff like this?
We bang their girlfriends, we have huge parties while they masterbate in their dorm room, we are probably better loookin and in better shape, and when we get out of college we end up their boss not by merit but because being in a huge social group means you fucking learn how to network. /
Holy shit, Sky, I just can't help myself.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 09:59 AM (KBKz/)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 26, 2013 09:59 AM (C8mVl)
That's Michael Moore's entire existence in a nutshell.
Posted by: rdbrewer at April 26, 2013 10:00 AM (Iyg03)
One of these days I might not catch it in time. >_>
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 10:00 AM (KBKz/)
Posted by: Killerdog at April 26, 2013 10:01 AM (cqkc/)
No one, that's who.
This is not the America I grew up in.
Posted by: Phinn at April 26, 2013 10:01 AM (oFH2D)
Btw fuck heads here that are not rabidly defending this girl....
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I'm not her fucking daddy. She can defend herself. I don't love this girl or hate her. I nothing her. She, her email, and the repercussions from her email is not the story. The fact that anyone is still talking about her is the story.
Posted by: Booger at April 26, 2013 10:01 AM (CJjw5)
PUT. THAT. COFFEE. DOWN.
Coffee is for closers.
What's my name? Fuck you! That's my name! I made nine hundred thousand dollars last year. How much did you make? I'm here because Mitch and Murray asked me to be here. If it were up to me, I'd fire your fucking asses right now.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 10:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Or she was lighting a fire under their ass. Sorority chicks bust each other's balls just as much as men in frats. Sometimes moreso. If they got through pledging, they can handle her email.
Posted by: brak at April 26, 2013 10:01 AM (iEoiA)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 01:59 PM (KBKz/)
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Also, people who can't spell masturbate properly.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 10:02 AM (D5iHx)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:03 AM (+bE6w)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 10:03 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: Prescient11 at April 26, 2013 01:49 PM (tVTLU)
WAYYYYY too late....
Posted by: Ret Sailor looking at the US Navy, Green Force for Good shit at April 26, 2013 10:04 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 26, 2013 10:05 AM (le5Zp)
Also, people who can't spell masturbate properly.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 26, 2013 02:02 PM (D5iHx)
LOL
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 10:05 AM (KBKz/)
Sounds like fun, can we please do Boehner next?
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at April 26, 2013 10:05 AM (epxV4)
"If I ever, and I mean ever, went crying to my mommy and daddy about what was going on, unless it was something truly egregious, the response would have been to stop beinga crybaby and get back to it.
It is the complete 180 now. We are raising a nation of complete fucking babies whose "feelings" mean more than getting the job done the fucking right way."
I think this is yet another place where we as a society are spliting into two distant and unrelated camps - pussified metros and whatever you want to call the polar opposite. The middle ground and and mechanism to bridge the gap is disappearing.
Posted by: Jaws at April 26, 2013 10:05 AM (4I3Uo)
If every mother fucking comment you posted on here was blasted in CNN all day how long would you have jobs, friends, and or face no consequences?
I want to cunt punt some of you now.
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 01:26 PM
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I'm not going to *rabidly* defend her. She chose to post her feelings on a world-wide stage, and in a vulgar manner. It may show 'spirit', or 'courage', but not very mature spirit or courage, nor very good judgement. I do not mean that that she should be condemned for what she said, but rather, how she said it, and where she said it. As for CNN picking up on it, they are just buzzards, circling until they can find some carrion (or something that they can transmute into carrion) to feed on.
Posted by: ee Cummings at April 26, 2013 10:06 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Body Builder at April 26, 2013 10:06 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 26, 2013 10:06 AM (BDH94)
Is this you, Sharkman?
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 01:54 PM (XQzGn) [Sharkman] No, but I can be for $350.00 per hour. [Link not in sock any more: http://tinyurl com/cmguym8. Great story, BTW. Add "dot".]
Posted by: Sharkman at April 26, 2013 10:06 AM (03IDC)
Posted by: ace at April 26, 2013 10:06 AM (LCRYB)
^^^^THIS. If none of you have ever had to have any level of professional interaction with this generation....you're in for an education when you do.
The job interviews are fascinating case studies of usually narcissistic personality disorder with a bit of OCD and borderline personality disorder thrown in.
Last time my office did this we had 25 applicants. Nineteen were straight up mentally ill.
This is what happens when you tell everyone they're special and never hold them accountable.
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 26, 2013 10:07 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 10:07 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 01:57 PM (nH8jP)
Exactly. I think there were probably 5% of the guys in my fraternity who came from wealthy families, which is about the same percentage of guys who came from wealthy families that lived on my dorm floor my freshman year before I pledged a fraternity. Maybe it differs depending on the college or university, as I went to a respective-but-not-elite state university for my undergrad, but that was my experience.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 10:07 AM (LTbLf)
In my younger years I'd probably enjoy dating her. She'd be great at football games. I like rowdy women.
Posted by: Soona at April 26, 2013 10:07 AM (cVg5z)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2013 10:07 AM (INYkK)
Posted by: I Am Barkevious at April 26, 2013 10:08 AM (8Bqco)
Posted by: Booger at April 26, 2013 02:01 PM (CJjw5)
^^ Yeah this.
It probably shouldn't have become a national story.
It did.
These things happen sometimes.
I really can't weigh in on whether she should have stepped down or not, merely offering an alternate explanation as to why she would have.
Some people have gotten away with worse, some people have gotten beat down with less.
Such is life.
Posted by: tsrblke at April 26, 2013 10:08 AM (GaqMa)
People were all fighty and stuff in earlier threads too
New AoSHQ Styleguide mandates that all posts be signed off with "And fuck you!" with an optional "But first you will blow me!" finisher.
Posted by: EC at April 26, 2013 10:09 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Torqued at April 26, 2013 10:09 AM (AKS75)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at April 26, 2013 10:10 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 10:10 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:11 AM (+bE6w)
Fuck, I hate the formatting at this place. Trying again:
339 Re: link in sock.
Is this you, Sharkman?
Posted by: The Q at April 26, 2013 01:54 PM (XQzGn) [Sharkman] No, but I can be for $350.00 per hour. [Link not in sock any more: http://tinyurl com/cmguym8. Great story, BTW. Add "dot".]
Posted by: Sharkman at April 26, 2013 10:11 AM (03IDC)
Posted by: Staff at April 26, 2013 10:11 AM (vJ+mj)
Posted by: Soona at April 26, 2013 02:07 PM (cVg5z)
Yeah... this is nothin.... now some of the Women I knew in the OLD Navy??? THEY could cuss...
and that leaves out the Guys...
Posted by: Ret Sailor looking at the US Navy, Green Force for Good shit at April 26, 2013 10:12 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: I Am Barkevious at April 26, 2013 10:13 AM (8Bqco)
From a sorority. A sisterhood of supposed intimate interaction. No supposed group can expect someone to be emily post 100% of the time. Even such stringent fraternity groups as the Masons or Knights of Columbus wouldn't boot you for a single rant that accidentally went public. You might be stripped of all titles and responsibilities, but not booted outright.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 26, 2013 10:13 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 10:15 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Caustic at April 26, 2013 10:15 AM (/b8+5)
Posted by: 1970 phrase at April 26, 2013 10:16 AM (MhA4j)
she thought she was talking to her sisters
one of whom blew this up nicely
I hope she is forced to resign too
bitch
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 02:10 PM (nH8jP)
Yep. We used to have fights and arguments among ourselves in my fraternity -- as happened in every other group that I have been a member of, including sports teams -- but no one ever did something like this and share internal disputes with the general public. Of course, I was in a fraternity before e-mail and the Internet but we used to deal with our disputes and arguments internally, like you should do in your post-college life. It's one thing if the person is a whistleblower exposing a crime but exposing a sophomoric rant by a college student that will have short-term and maybe long-term negative implications for her livelihood is way over the top. The punishment definitely doesn't fit the so-called "crime."
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 10:17 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:17 AM (+bE6w)
I often say to people who pride themselves on not being judgmental:
"Nonjudgmentalism is overrated."
Feel free to steal that. It's funny to me because it's something they are never likely to hear. I once tested someone long enough about taboos and found that, yes, with the right taboo, a 'nonjudgmental' person can still become quite uncomfortable.
The word sets off warning bells for me when someone makes a point of it, because maybe those people aren't bothered so much by the dirty, dishonest, criminal, etc. behaviour they just happen to take part in.
Posted by: Ted's Taboo Talks at April 26, 2013 10:18 AM (JVEmw)
Posted by: I Am Barkevious at April 26, 2013 02:13 PM (8Bqco)
Fucking Thread Winner, Right There.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 26, 2013 10:18 AM (03IDC)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 10:18 AM (nH8jP)
Actions have consequences. Some good. Some bad. Seems to me that she probably has a large number of supporters if the sentiment of this thread is any indication.
To me this is like the bully argument. Bullies have been around since the beginning of man. Judging and ostracizing has also been around since the beginning of man. The internet just made it easier.
Life is tough and its true the strongest will survive.
Posted by: polynikes at April 26, 2013 10:20 AM (m2CN7)
Yeah I know good looking girls never go to frat parties and slut it up, which angers the ugly chicks and ugly dudes in college. Nope that never happens. The movie revenge of the nerds didnt have any truth to it. Ill shut up so all the real men who drop out of high school and then go on to make millions with super cool businesses like you can tell me about life.
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 02:11 PM (+bE6w)
You trying to convince me, or yourself, Chuckles?
Look, this has been a matter for laughs for me, but evidently it's really getting your goat. I propose we agree to loathe one another, and go our separate ways. XD Have a nice day, chap.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 10:20 AM (KBKz/)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:20 AM (+bE6w)
Most of the folks who I know who "hate" frats tried to get into one and couldn't. I think that's a fair reason.
(FTR I have never been declined entry into, nor do I dislike fraternities)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 26, 2013 10:20 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 26, 2013 10:20 AM (+x8q5)
And I'm typing on an iPhone masterbate comes up that wayby auto correct. Don't ask me why, maybe too much text sex or something.
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 02:17 PM (+bE6w)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh man, oh man, oh man. XD
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 10:21 AM (KBKz/)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 10:21 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 26, 2013 10:22 AM (xjpRj)
Yeah we are all rich rapists who don't work or stuck up rich white sluts.
Yet the same people that got offended when I stereotyped and called them nerds who masterbate got all offended were the ones throwing that shit out there. Nice fucking double standard.
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 02:20 PM (+bE6w)
Yeah and now this is just sad.
How fragile is your self-image, dude? o.o Seriously?
Just wow.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB at April 26, 2013 10:23 AM (KBKz/)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:25 AM (+bE6w)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 26, 2013 10:25 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 02:15 PM (nH8jP)
Too true. I was waiting for a non-Greek to post the oft-used "fraternities are for homosexuals to have sex with one another" insults I hear from non-Greeks, as if they are akin to Barney Frank's favorite bathhouses. Not all fraternities are the same, as some that were on my campus seemed to have a higher percentage of douchebags than my fraternity did. But I saw behavior in the dorms before I joined a fraternity that was worse than the most egregious behaviors that I saw in my fraternity. To be honest, the drinking was arguably more prevalent in the dorms than in the fraternities. Joining a fraternity is like when many people turn 21. Many end up drinking less after 21 than they did before they were 21. The same is true for many when they join a fraternity. Perhaps it's because they have more access to alcohol in the fraternity. I don't know.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 10:26 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 02:21 PM (nH8jP)
I think the young woman who forwarded that email orchestrated the most Machiavellian and devastatingly effective character assassination I've seen since Mitt Romney was caught abusing animals and giving cancer to the wives of working men. I hope she ultimately gets a job as a Republican operative working for national campaigns. We need more like her.
Posted by: troyriser at April 26, 2013 10:26 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: buzzion at April 26, 2013 10:28 AM (LI48c)
Posted by: [/i]akula51 at April 26, 2013 10:28 AM (Vgn84)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 10:29 AM (nH8jP)
My father spent 8 total years living in Saudi Arabia and said the Middle East had back in his day a similar phenomenon going on. It was not permissible to criticize the ruling class, or political leaders, or religious leaders, or do normal social activities with the opposite sex. The only outlet for anger, rage and frustration was the JOOOS, everyone's scapegoat.
Spot on observation about young woman deeming sex = slutdom unless you have a boyfriend and it's serious and it's love. This is the same reason that to a certain segment of the population, a fetus is not a baby, because women who get abortions don't want to feel bad about themselves for killing the consequences of engaging in what, for 99% of them, was slutty behavior (sorry, call me Todd Akin but I refuse to believe that any statistically significant number of aborted babies were produced through rape, incest or that the life of the mother is at stake.
BTW, now that I'm over 30, I've noticed that my friends and acquaintances have shifted from "omg, what if I get pregnant" to "omg, I can't get pregnant").
Posted by: the other coyote at April 26, 2013 10:29 AM (yK44T)
Posted by: Jay in PA at April 26, 2013 10:32 AM (WSgyE)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:32 AM (+bE6w)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 26, 2013 10:34 AM (XYSwB)
Well...um....yeah... it was also hysterical and abusive and reflected badly on the Sorority; both the local chapter and the national organization.
For fuck's sake, Ace, you get pissy when people call you a RINO.
You might have found it amusing, but I think you've lost touch with reality if you think someone can publicly address an entire group of people in this manner and not (deservedly) earn some backlash for it.
Yeah, "cunt punt" was funny. But 'funny' doesn't trump 'abusive', 'trashy', or 'bad representative of the organization.'
Posted by: SGT. York at April 26, 2013 10:34 AM (IdV/i)
network.
I hear "I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people? "
[Snicker]
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 26, 2013 10:35 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 02:29 PM (nH8jP)
My idea is that we would aim her like a passive-aggressive torpedo at the Democrats. Admittedly, when we're talking about power levels of this magnitude, there's always the risk she would be the Acme to our Wile E. Coyote. Nothing's foolproof.
Posted by: troyriser at April 26, 2013 10:35 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:35 AM (+bE6w)
Posted by: eleven at April 26, 2013 10:36 AM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 02:32 PM (+bE6w)
'Cooter' and 'Poon' are curse words?
Posted by: troyriser at April 26, 2013 10:37 AM (vtiE6)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:37 AM (+bE6w)
Just wow.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal, LifB
Tell me you're a girl, and I won't call you a pussy for writing like this.
Posted by: Phinn at April 26, 2013 10:38 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 10:39 AM (nH8jP)
What's even funnier is that he seems to think that he wasn't viewed by those of us who played sports as of one of the "nerds Masturbating by himself"
Too funny.
If you think that you're "cool" or something because you were in a fraternity, I'd say you lived a rather sheltered existence.
Posted by: Jay in PA at April 26, 2013 02:32 PM (WSgyE)
Those groups aren't mutually exclusive. Plenty of athletes (high school and college) eventually join fraternities, including members of college sports teams. As for fraternity members thinking they are "cool," don't you think the reaction is due to fraternity members and fraternities being attacked unfairly for something they aren't, as some are doing here? You know, like many conservatives have to deal with on a daily basis.
If you don't like sororities or fraternities, that's fine. But don't base your criticisms against them on untrue stereotypes or on wishful thinking. Do you think fraternity and sorority members aren't around you every single day? You may be surprised how many of your friends and acquaintances whom you met years after college are actually former members of the Greek system.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 10:43 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 26, 2013 10:43 AM (/oSli)
In all seriousness, this is the nature of media -- a contest for the dominant narrative.
Conservatives are more closely connected to reality than leftists. It's what makes us ornery, pessimistic, and critical. Unfortunately, media is not about reality. Media (and politics generally, since media is the Priestly Class that fronts for the State) is about story-time.
He who controls the Narrative controls the government.
Posted by: Phinn at April 26, 2013 10:44 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: [/i]akula51 at April 26, 2013 10:47 AM (Vgn84)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:48 AM (+bE6w)
Posted by: Aloha Akhbar @PirateBallerina at April 26, 2013 10:50 AM (/lWM8)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 10:50 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: Eric at April 26, 2013 10:51 AM (ClJ2V)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 10:53 AM (nH8jP)
I think techies who don't achieve management positions and want them are held back by their disdain for the social game. I've been in leadership positions, and been a foot soldier, I get payed pretty much the same either way because I'm a really good foot soldier, but I've found that a lot of stress comes with being in a management position and you need to enjoy the social aspect of it otherwise continually putting on the friendly face to everyone just becomes a grind like any other part of a job you don't like. A lot of folks want that management position to puff their ego because they're "in charge". That's just useless pride and envy right there. Find where you are happy, and get real real good at it and money comes.
Do frat boys often make decent managers, yes, a lot of the time. I've also seen a bunch of them get canned because they thought good social skills was enough. It's not. Do engineers make good managers, if they agree to play the game they do fine. If they continue to hold social interaction in general disdain and look down on those of inferior intelligence, the Sheldon's of the world, they crash and burn.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose DOOMCASTER! at April 26, 2013 10:53 AM (0q2P7)
The actual email is hilarious, and the girl is extra-cute.
Cute and hilarious will survive just fine, thank you.
***
By the way, the point of the email as I read it was that her sorority sisters had been extremely rude to their "matchup" fraternity at a mixer by talking to each other and loudly announcing they were going to leave to go to a party with a different fraternity. If you look at it that way, she's not the one in the wrong at all.
By the way, did I mention... extra-cute?
Posted by: The Regular Guy at April 26, 2013 10:55 AM (qHCyt)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 10:58 AM (+bE6w)
Posted by: Auntie Doodles at April 26, 2013 10:59 AM (JcN7j)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 11:00 AM (+bE6w)
Posted by: Phinn at April 26, 2013 02:44 PM (oFH2D)
I'm not a big Kurt Vonnegut fan but think his novel 'Cat's Cradle' was a marvelous study of The Narrative concept. So was Joseph Campbell's nonfiction philosophical lecture 'Hero of a Thousand Faces'. We live our lives in stories.
What I'm getting at is this: (nonviolent) political struggle is carried out by putting forth competing narratives. The one that wins, wins power. Facts rarely matter and logic is largely superfluous. Conservatives are losing because we actually over-value facts and reason. We're the ones in the movie theater who complain about gaping plot holes in a Michael Bay Transformers movie, forgetting that plot holes don't fucking matter in a Michael Bay movie.
Posted by: troyriser at April 26, 2013 11:01 AM (vtiE6)
We were a pretty diverse group that basically liked to party. Together.
Posted by: akula51 at April 26, 2013 02:47 PM (Vgn84)
Well said. We had brothers who were from each of those groups, too. And contrary to popular belief, there was much more diversity in my fraternity than is depicted in the popular culture for fraternities. Also, I can't speak for all fraternities, but the ability to run the local chapter -- including all decisions involving the finances, operations, marketing, etc. -- was invaluable to me and my business career after I got out of college. In addition, I was also fortunate to meet my wife during my time in a fraternity so I will always think positively of the place.
Bottom line: I hope that some of you ripping the Greek system at least consider that you may be basing much of your criticism on your flawed biases. I say this as someone who had the same biases before I decided to pledge a fraternity. Some of the negative perceptions of the Greek system by the outside public are definitely true, but the problems are no different than those that exist outside the Greek system. At least that was my experience.
Posted by: Slappy at April 26, 2013 11:03 AM (LTbLf)
Posted by: T. at April 26, 2013 11:07 AM (bek/q)
Posted by: Roy at April 26, 2013 11:16 AM (VndSC)
If you want to know what the Left is doing (or planning to do) look at what they are accusing others of doing
If you want to know what the Left is, look at what they are accusing others of being.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at April 26, 2013 11:19 AM (tqAT4)
Posted by: T. at April 26, 2013 11:20 AM (bek/q)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at April 26, 2013 11:21 AM (7ObY1)
QED
Posted by: Phinn at April 26, 2013 11:26 AM (oFH2D)
Posted by: DrDrill at April 26, 2013 11:28 AM (sOFZs)
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2013 11:32 AM (IWRxI)
Posted by: Mr Pink at April 26, 2013 11:35 AM (+bE6w)
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Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at April 26, 2013 11:36 AM (51kjJ)
Posted by: Bob Knight at April 26, 2013 11:38 AM (Y5Ri0)
Great stuff. I harbor secret hopes that one day Ace will give up his pointless backing of the doomed Republican party and take up his true calling as a neo-Monarchist philosopher. The dark side is calling.
"I made an observation about Hate last week. Leftism is a cult. I'm sure most of you agree with that"
Went off the rails here. Leftism is not a cult. It is, in fact, the DOMINANT STATE RELIGION. Get it? They have all the marbles. They are Victorians in Victorian England, the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, the giant corporate megamart that drives the plucky family-owned shop plumb out of business. Leftists have the full power and imprimatur of the United States Government behind everything they do, no matter how awful and boneheaded (such as making middle-school girls role play lesbian dating scenarios). This will not change. It cannot be changed. Just wait until the singularity occurs, when they realize that there cannot ever be any meaningful opposition. California Congressman James Boyd Utt came close to the truth just a few days ago: "We are rapidly coming to a point [ed. we're already there] where a complete change of elected officials, including Congress and the White House, can mean little change in policy. You are governed more and more by people for whom you have never voted, for whom you never will vote, whom you have never seen, and whom you cannot recall by your vote. They are entrenched in the boards, bureaus and commissions, even at the policy level."
Props to him for doubting that this a good thing. Now, add all of the top universities and the entire media (no, Fox News doesn't count as being part of the media) and you've got the hand that squeezes the world, and the boot that is already in front of your faces, and soon will be stepping downwards.
Posted by: Links at April 26, 2013 11:39 AM (RgIRJ)
Posted by: Links at April 26, 2013 11:44 AM (RgIRJ)
Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 11:46 AM (nH8jP)
Posted by: brian at April 26, 2013 11:49 AM (Lzl97)
Posted by: DrDrill at April 26, 2013 12:13 PM (sOFZs)
Posted by: shoeless hunter at April 26, 2013 12:14 PM (dY+4R)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 26, 2013 12:18 PM (UU0OF)
dang you guys are quick
re: "mature, thoughtful, tolerant and compassionate person.”"
When the president is destroying the country, when the democrats are attempting to destroy their political opponents, when the news media spews propaganda in support of the president and his party in their campaign to destroy their political opponents, when religious fanatics are killing people in large numbers
fuck that tolerance and compassion. People SHOULD BE angry, this is a fricken war, damn it GET SOME PAYBACK.
Was dear lady justified in her remarks? well ok then
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 26, 2013 12:18 PM (pojai)
Late to the thread...
Ace, this post was inspired. ...And pure poetry!
"Leftism is a cult. ...
The High Priests of the Left knows full well that hatred is not really taboo in the Cult, but rather the whole point for joining the cult in the first place."
Spot.
On.
And artfully said, Ace.
Posted by: wheatie at April 26, 2013 12:32 PM (3B3wv)
Posted by: Links at April 26, 2013 03:39 PM (RgIRJ)
I take it you didn't make the cheerleading squad.
Posted by: troyriser at April 26, 2013 12:41 PM (vtiE6)
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Posted by: thunderb at April 26, 2013 01:16 PM (nH8jP)
Ace, the mentality that you are talking about is exemplified in the movie The Human Stain. Depressing as hell movie but exemplifies burning the witch mentality.
The increase in cell phones cameras, inet postings, email, surreptitious videoing and recording, etc. means that just about anyone could burn at any time.
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