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October 09, 2013

Yellowstone Park Goon Squads, Media Ignorance, and Media Ideology
— Ace

Ideology and partisan leaning permit people who are ignorant of the facts and the law to have an overly-firm opinion on matters they know nothing about.

Note this doesn't mean that ideological people are ignorant of the facts, law, economics, history, or all the rest. In fact, some of the most ideological people are the most informed. Surveys consistently show that independent voters -- those without a firm ideology (or at least one they admit to having) tend to be the least informed of all the population, the so-called Low Information Voters.

(As an Independent myself, I'm not saying all Independents are ignorant, of course. But, as a group, they do have the lowest level of information about current events and politics.)

While ideology is no bar to having actual expertise, ideology does permit those without any particular expertise to have an opinion on matters they know little about. A conservative will at least have a First Approximation on a matter by trying to figure out if a policy or law reduces freedom or expands it. A leftist similarly will form a First Approximation of an opinion by deciding if a law or policy advances a group in the leftist coalition.

This is not abnormal or wrong; when people are on an unknown road, without any familiar landmarks, they resort to very general rules of road-travel. A leftist is predisposed to take the left fork, for example, and a conservative the right. (A libertarian gets out a coin and flips it.)

The problem is that the media makes these sorts of decisions out of nearly perfect ignorance, but, having a Corporate Mission of presenting itself as Expert and Informed on every issue, cannot admit that it is simply groping based upon its ideology, and dresses up its partisan/ideological guesses as "expertise."

Even when they have no expertise. Indeed, in the case of Shutdown Theater, they are missing such a basic element of property law as to be laughably, ridiculously ignorant.

The media has several reasons for not giving any play to shutdown theater. The first is obviously simple partisanship -- they know Obama is a weak president, they all support Obama, and they want him to "win" in the current fight, as the summer and fall have been dominated by nothing but high-profile failures, embarrassments, climbdowns, and reversals.

They know further that Obama's odds of "winning" the current fight depend heavily on public opinion, so they execute Obama's tactical plan of making the shutdown appear to be solely the work of Republicans. Any contrary storyline confuses the Narrative -- by the way, media, most Narratives should be somewhat confused by contrary facts and indications, don't you think?

Is the Truth ever as simple as the White Hat/Black Hat Narrative the media favors? It continues to astonish me that the media credits itself as being nuanced, enlightened thinkers comfortable with doubt and contrary factual signals and yet continues to present a Babyfood Leftist Narrative to its declining audience.

While simple partisanship explains much of media behavior, one must not discount the operation of simple, complete, out-of-their depths ignorance.

And that's what I'll be talking about for the rest of this article. They're missing something rather Huge in property law, and this ignorance permits them to continue to believe there's nothing at all wrong with the National Park Service capturing public lands for partisan political ends.

And I do mean Huge. This is first-year stuff. This is not just first-year stuff, this is first-half of the first-year stuff.

But the media doesn't know a whole lot of Huge things, but they paper over their manifold ignorances with the confident swagger of the Righteously, Ignorantly, Indignantly Partisan.

For a factual predicate, let's turn to the Park Service's behavior at Yellowstone Park, where Park Service outlaws (and they are outside the law) blocked the views of Old Faithful with SUVs, to prevent tourists (with a right to be on the property) from having the enjoyment of simply looking at Old Faithful.

Do they have the legal right to do this? No. The media doesn't understand this, however, as they're ignorant. Because they are ignorant of the law, their ignorance serves to permit their ideology and partisan rooting interest to make the call on this behavior, and deem it normal and acceptable.

I'll get to that in a bit.

Jonathan V. Last calls this possibly the worst scandal of the Obama administration, and I think he's right. And yet the media treats this all as Business as Usual; what's all the fuss?

Again, later on, I'll explain it, for the ignoramuses of the partisan reflex Bennington College Media.

The conduct of the National Park Service over the last week might be the biggest scandal of the Obama administration. This is an expansive claim, of course. Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the IRS, the NSA, the HHS mandate--this is an administration that has not lacked for appalling abuses of power. And we still have three years to go.
Even so, consider the actions of the National Park Service since the government shutdown began. People first noticed what the NPS was up to when the World War II Memorial on the National Mall was Â“closed.Â” Just to be clear, the memorial is an open plaza. There is nothing to operate. Sometimes there might be a ranger standing around. But heÂ’s not collecting tickets or opening gates. Putting up barricades and posting guards to Â“closeÂ” the World War II Memorial takes more resources and manpower than Â“keeping it open.Â”
The closure of the World War II Memorial was just the start of the Park ServiceÂ’s partisan assault on the citizenry. ThereÂ’s a cute little historic site just outside of the capital in McLean, Virginia, called the Claude Moore Colonial Farm. They do historical reenactments, and once upon a time the National Park Service helped run the place. But in 1980, the NPS cut the farm out of its budget. A group of private citizens set up an endowment to take care of the farmÂ’s expenses. Ever since, the site has operated independently through a combination of private donations and volunteer workers.
The farmÂ’s administrators appealed this directive--they explained that the Park Service doesnÂ’t actually do anything for the historic site. The folks at the NPS were unmoved. And so, last week, the National Park Service found the scratch to send officers to the park to forcibly remove both volunteer workers and visitors.
Think about that for a minute. The Park Service, which is supposed to serve the public by administering parks, is now in the business of forcing parks they donÂ’t administer to close.
....
But the piÃ¨ce de rÃ©sistance occurred in South Dakota. The Park Service wasnÂ’t content just to close Mount Rushmore. No, they went the extra mile and put out orange cones to block the little scenic overlook areas on the roads near Mount Rushmore. You know, just to make sure no taxpayers could catch a glimpse of it.
ItÂ’s one thing for politicians to play shutdown theater. ItÂ’s another thing entirely for a civil bureaucracy entrusted with the privilege of caring for our national heritage to wage war against the citizenry on behalf of a political party.

Please read the whole thing, or at the very least click on the whole thing, as I've swiped a bit more from Jonathan Last than is really kosher.

Now, I know why the media doesn't think this is Any Big Deal. And I know this, because while the Uninformed cannot accurately guess the mind of the Informed, the Informed may in fact make very accurate guesses about the workings of the mind of the Uninformed. All one has to do is strip all knowledge from one's mind, and ponder, "What would the Ignorant Man think of all this, if he didn't know anything at all about it?"

Well, the Ignorant Man would proceed from Analogy. The Ignorant Man would think, "Well, if Starbucks wished to close its shops as a political protest against the GOP, or against citizens generally, in order to damage the GOP politically, they'd be perfectly within their rights to do so. If Starbucks had, say, a traveling collection of artworks they displayed on their walls, and wished to cover those artworks up whenever some (or all) of the public entered, that would be Starbucks' right. That might be politically unpopular, and disastrous for business, but they'd have every legal right to do that."

And the Ignorant Man would be right. And yet his analogy fails because the situations are not analogous -- and the Ignorant Man not only doesn't know that they're not analogous, but he's so ignorant he lacks the imagination to even speculate as to how they might not be analogous.

99% of all property in America is owned according to what I'll call "unified ownership interest," even though that's a term I just made up. Starbucks owns its shops (and let's put aside the fact that they lease much of their space; a lease is not a full ownership interest, but during the period of the lease, the lessee has virtually all rights associated with ownership, so long as he satisfies his obligations per the contract of lease).

This "unified ownership interest" is so common that many people think it's the only form of ownership.

But in fact 1% of property (caveat: I'm just guessing at numbers here; I doubt there's an actual study that pins this down) is not held in such a "unified ownership interest."

It's held in trust. And the owner of record is not the beneficial owner. The legal owner is not the same as the owner who is to enjoy the benefits flowing from ownership.

Starbucks is not just the owner of record of Starbucks, it's not just the nominal, on-paper owner of Starbucks. Starbucks is all that, plus it is also the beneficial owner of Starbucks.

These are two separate concepts of ownership and these terms I'm not making up. These are the real legal terms for a division of the normal parcel of rights of ownership. Google it.

The division is simple, and would occur to anyone, if they gave it a moment's thought. The simplest illustration of a split in nominal ownership and beneficial ownership is a trust fund set up for a three year old child. The child is obviously too young to make any kind of decisions about the trust; instead, a trustee is appointed to make trades, sell parts of the trust (for profit), pay taxes, and so on.

The trustee is the nominal owner of the property contained in the trust. On paper, he owns it. That's why we call him the owner-of-record. And he must have the legal ownership over the trust, because when he sells or buys for the trust, his counter-party must know that the trustee has the legal right to undertake the sales and purchases of the trust. No one would want to strike a deal for a purchase of a $350 million property if a three-year-old baby could pop up at any time and say "Goo-goo gah-gah, I don' wanna buy this lakefront property. Goo-goo gah-gah, I hereby abrogate this contract."

But while the trustee is the nominal owner of the property, he is not the beneficial owner of it. The beneficial owner -- the true owner -- is the baby. The trustee is legally permitted to make decisions affecting the property held in trust, but only for the purposes of ultimately benefiting the beneficial owner. The beneficial owner is the owner who is to accrue all benefits from the trust.

The trustee cannot, for example, agree to purchase stock at a higher-than-market price on the condition that the man he's buying for purchase his own property at a higher-than-market rate. That is, he cannot leverage trust property as a sweetener to benefit his own bank account.

If he's discovered doing that, he will be removed as trustee, probably disbarred, and possibly jailed (for embezzlement, or a similar crime).

Note that where these two interests -- owner-of-record interest, and beneficial interest -- united in the same person, there would be no problem at all with this sort of deal, where one party agrees to pay a bit too much for one thing, on the condition the counter-party pays a bit too much for something else. Such deals are so common there's not even a good word for them. They just are.

But when an owner-of-record attempts to leverage property he only "owns" as a nominal owner in order to benefit himself --and not the trust, and not the beneficiary of the trust -- using the assets of the trust, it's criminal conduct.

The media does not know this. The media is not expert in anything beyond Writing Things Down and Having a Good Phone Voice, but they present themselves as General Universal Experts Without Portfolio.

But they're not. In fact, they're not even well-informed enough to even know what the hell I'm talking about here, and then ask questions of an actual expert. They don't even know that much -- they don't know enough to know they're on unfirm ground with their Starbucks analogy, and therefore should ask an actual expert before making large conclusions based on a flawed analogy.

The Park Service -- the Interior Department -- is in fact the owner-of-record of these public spaces. They are legally entitled and obligated to manage these spaces... but as a trustee, as an owner of record, acting for the actual benefit of the true owner of the property, which is itself, of course, the American public.

If the Park Service actually was both owner-of-record and beneficial owner, they would have unified rights in this regard, and could act on whim and out of obvious self-dealing personal interest (in as much as all Government Workers would like to maximize pressure on Taxpayers to extract money from them), and that would all be legal.

Annoying and horrible, but legal.

But these ownership interests are not in fact united in the Park Service, or the Interior Department. All public lands -- and I won't even bother to look this up, but go ahead and check -- are held "for the enjoyment and benefit of the American people."

They're held in trust. And when you hold something in trust for the benefit of someone else, you are not permitted to make self-interested decisions about the the use of the property.

A "unified interest" owner could make all sorts of capricious and publicly-harming decisions about his property -- and while he might be a dick, he wouldn't be a lawbreaker.

I can be arbitrary and capricious with my banning policy. That will get me grief, but I do not hold this blog in trust for any commenter. I own it outright, and hence can act capriciously with my property.

But someone who holds property in trust for the benefit of someone else is legally required to:

1) Make all reasonable efforts to afford the beneficial owner of the enjoyment of the property of the trust, and,

2) Scrupulously avoid damaging the interests of the beneficial owner, for example, to personally benefit a third party or the trustee himself.

Here are some other things a trustee cannot do:

He cannot attempt to exert pressure on the beneficiary of the trustee by denying him the enjoyment of the property held in trust (except to the extent that is spelled out in the instrument establishing the trust).

He cannot harm the beneficiary of the trust to "Teach the beneficiary a lesson" about the Important Work the trustee does.

He cannot blockade the property of the trust to put political pressure on a political party he doesn't favor.

He cannot use the property of the trust for his own benefit and enjoyment.

He cannot capriciously decide that the beneficiary of the trust shall not have the natural rights of enjoyment of the trust, just because he's Mad at the Beneficiary.

And he definitely, definitely may not block the beneficiary from enjoying the property held in his name to coerce the beneficiary to pay him more for his services as trustee, or to give more freely to charities the trustee favors.

Obama does not own the military, the government, or the national parks, media. Obama instead is the trustee of these things -- but is required to oversee them for the benefit of their true owners, the American People.

Lands held in trust are not "owned" by the government in the same way that the Starbucks Corporation is owned by the Starbucks shareholders. Starbucks shareholders not only own a piece of the company on paper, but also own the beneficial interest of that piece of the company. Dividends accrue to their benefit, not some third-party beneficiary of the Starbucks Trust.

This why we on the right make such a big deal over whether these moves "save money" or not - if they saved money, these moves could, arguably, be credited as actually benefiting the trustees, and hence would, arguably, be legal.

But when the government is actually Spending More Money to harass and harm citizens, sorry media, there is no possible way to construe this as "acting for the benefit of the trustees."

Blockading someone's view of Mount Rushmore or Old Faithful obviously does not "preserve" the trust, as viewing does not damage the property held in trust.

So no, Media, actually it's not just like Starbucks, and it's not business as usual for a trustee to deliberately harm and harass the actual beneficial owner of the property of the trust.

In fact, it's illegal.

And if you knew a damn thing about anything, this would have occurred to you.

But you don't, so it didn't, and your nasty, ignorant obnoxiously-overconfident leftist ideology papers over all the gaps in your knowledge base.

Posted by: Ace at 10:30 AM | Comments (513)
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1 Who knew the NPS would be Obama's Brown Shirts?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 10:33 AM (lVPtV)

2 (A libertarian gets out a coin and flips it.)

Oh snap.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2013 10:34 AM (KXm42)

3 The problem is that the media makes these sorts of decisions out of nearly perfect ignorance, but, having a Corporate Mission of presenting itself as Expert and Informed on every issue, cannot admit that it is simply groping based upon its ideology, and dresses up its partisan/ideological guesses as "expertise." And, it's hard to explain to my mother, who watches those MSM news channels, that they choose what they are going to cover, and they choose how to say it/tone, and they choose what to conveniently leave out. She doesn't get that she is getting half the news, with a biased filter.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 09, 2013 10:36 AM (IXrOn)

4 Are there any stories out there about NPS officials disregarding the orders to bring the pain? It really sounds like they are all falling in line to serve dear leader. People should remember these people's actions when/if this is all over.

Posted by: Havedash at October 09, 2013 10:37 AM (F0WNa)

The definition of divided property interests you describe is called the "bundle of sticks."

I shit you not. Your "unified ownership interest" does sound more scientific.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 10:38 AM (t06LC)

6 I saw this movie once, it's like three and a half hours long with no intermission

Posted by: Voices, I hear voices at October 09, 2013 10:38 AM (iX8ml)

7 I can't believe even a Low Info type person could not see blocking the view of Old Faithful as anything other than spiteful and petulant. That is what it so obviously is.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2013 10:38 AM (KXm42)

8 Great piece, ace.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 10:38 AM (lVPtV)

9 It's time for the three year old to throw a tantrum and kick the trustee in the testicles.

Posted by: Roy at October 09, 2013 10:39 AM (VndSC)

10 @NPS Old Faithful will be filled with concrete due to funding shortages #shutdown

Posted by: |_+\ at October 09, 2013 10:39 AM (+hhsZ)

11 So Five Stars and Two Thumbs Up, then?

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at October 09, 2013 02:33 PM (tWmgi)

Those aren't thumbs.

Posted by: Dean Pelton at October 09, 2013 10:39 AM (ggRof)

12 Correct analysis. That's why this is theater designed specifically to harm the American public. There have been numerous times I've been in parks whether parking lots, etc. have been closed for various reasons. The understanding has always been, "proceed at your own risk." This business is unprecedented.

Posted by: RS at October 09, 2013 10:39 AM (YAGV/)

13 I'm still wondering if there will be lawsuits for illegal detainment.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at October 09, 2013 10:39 AM (9JELU)

14 Someone noted something in a comment to the San Francisco paper - George Lucas/Disney operates on Federal land controlled by the National Park Service in the San Francisco Presidio. Why aren't they being shut down, like concessionaires at national parks? Oh wait - the Obama Administration wouldn't want to anger their political allies in the media industry, would they? Meanwhile, the National Park Service has cancelled a children's sandcastle building contest on Ocean Beach in San Francisco on Saturday. I wonder how many armed park rangers they will send to make sure the sand castle building contest doesn't happen.

Posted by: Insanity at October 09, 2013 10:39 AM (QgAFR)

15 Ace, droppin some f'n knowledge. Bazinga!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 09, 2013 10:40 AM (ZPrif)

16 One of the elderly women who was held hostage by armed NPS goons was on Fox this morning. The foreign tourists in their group were "impressed."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 10:40 AM (lVPtV)

17 God bless ya Ace....wish I new you when writing papers in school. You would of made a small fortune off me.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 09, 2013 10:40 AM (wmU4G)

18 Interesting to see a group of admired employees throw their reputation away.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 09, 2013 10:41 AM (l3vZN)

19 They can burn your bundle of sticks.

Posted by: kelo at October 09, 2013 10:41 AM (VndSC)

20 "A leftist is predisposed to take the left fork, for example, and a conservative the right. (A libertarian gets out a coin and flips it.)"

A Marxist takes over both parts of the road and puts barriers up.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 09, 2013 10:41 AM (71LDo)

21 >>>The definition of divided property interests you describe is called the "bundle of sticks." I shit you not. Your "unified ownership interest" does sound more scientific. ... it's been a while. I tried 'parcel of rights."

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 10:41 AM (/IWYB)

22 My girlfriend and I were talking about this just last night. When the media needs speculation about an ongoing event, their first call is to other people in the mediaÂ—not actual experts on whatever happens to be going down, who might be able to speculate in a reasonably informed manner.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 09, 2013 10:41 AM (QF8uk)

23 I know when I've hiked in Nat'l Parks in the winter, when staffing is sporadic at best, there's usually a little drop box to pay your entry fees and backcountry fees, and it's on the honor system. That's what I expected would happen in a shutdown. Instead, we got the NPS SWAT team. But please, let's give the federal govt even more power.

Posted by: brak at October 09, 2013 10:42 AM (NaTky)

Also the term you're looking for regarding the trustee is "breach of fiduciary duty." This means the trustee owes a fiduciary duty, the highest standard to the beneficiaries, "a punctilio of an honor, the most sensitive."

My bus law prof would be so proud.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 10:43 AM (t06LC)

25 Okay, that's interesting. So who would have standing to sue over this? Anybody? How would you force the Interior department to relent? What recourse do the people have? Not rhetorical questions, by the way. Could somebody make them pay?

Posted by: joncelli at October 09, 2013 10:43 AM (RD7QR)

26 Where then are the lawyers filing lawsuits against the NPS on this principle? What you wrote makes sense, but I'd love to see legal action taken.

Posted by: William at October 09, 2013 10:43 AM (w6VLB)

It gets worse: try to build on your privately owned land where the DOI decided it might be a refuge for some potential rare species.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2013 10:43 AM (U292F)

28 When I need to get me some expertise, I just go to the Maxi-Pads for answers.

Posted by: Shep at October 09, 2013 10:43 AM (VndSC)

29 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 10:43 AM (/PCJa)

30 @19 Jinx That's the truth. I've had uniformly pleasant encounters with NPS Rangers and Police. It saddens me that they're playing along with this, when they know how patently ludicrous it is.

Posted by: RS at October 09, 2013 10:44 AM (YAGV/)

Fucking brilliant.

Right on. They are spending MORE MONEY to FUCK the American people. You know, the beneficiaries of the govt's oversight...

Posted by: prescient11 at October 09, 2013 10:44 AM (tVTLU)

32 The LIVs may in fact see all of this as spiteful and petulant. Problem is, they think it's Boehner's and Cruz's fault. The GOP, as usual, is not getting in front of this.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 09, 2013 10:44 AM (YmPwQ)

33 6 The definition of divided property interests you describe is called the "bundle of sticks." AKA a Faggot.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 09, 2013 10:44 AM (SzAZ7)

34 I loathe what our country has become under this administration.

Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at October 09, 2013 10:44 AM (UlI/7)

35 They would ignore it even if they knew about it. They can not be trusted, they are a propaganda arm of the left They are happy to confine this to right wing blogs and Fox news, because we are who they want to intimidate with these actions.

Posted by: Mr Pink at October 09, 2013 10:45 AM (EmcU0)

36 The whole thing hinges on one thing - that the law is expected to actually be followed.

Posted by: Roy at October 09, 2013 10:45 AM (VndSC)

37 And, it's hard to explain to my mother, who watches those MSM news channels, that they choose what they are going to cover, and they choose how to say it/tone, and they choose what to conveniently leave out. She doesn't get that she is getting half the news, with a biased filter. AKA Card Stacking. David Weigel is playing the whole, "People being glitched out of the exchange websites would be a huge story, if it weren't for the fact that we have to cover this shutdown nonsense." on twitter. They did the same thing with Romney and Benghazi. They accused him of injecting himself into the storyline and they would have covered President Obama's bad acts (pinky swear) if he'd just waited a little while to make comment.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 09, 2013 10:45 AM (yETln)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 09, 2013 02:41 PM (QF8uk)

Spot on. They think they are experts on everything, but they really only know what their bosses let them know.

Posted by: madamex at October 09, 2013 10:45 AM (1zsKV)

39 I agree with your analysis 100%, though why limit it here. Isn't all government just a trust set up for the people? That is, when a congresscritter takes a kickback, he in effect uses the money in trust to the US government that belongs to the citizens of the US.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 10:45 AM (t06LC)

Good poat, oh Furry One.

Too bad the law doesn't seem to matter much to this clowncar of an administration. Perhaps a couple of high-profile civil rights lawsuits would help to edumacate these Bozos about their proper legal role.

Along with a bit of jail time.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at October 09, 2013 10:45 AM (0HooB)

Ace.... you would be correct except for one thing...

As far as the left is concerned the Government itself is an entity, with Rights unto itself.... and thus OWNS the property...

Heck.... if you pay property Taxes, you really don't even own YOUR Property... as the State can repossesses it if you don't pay your tax...

And the State CAN tell you what you may, or may not, do on your OWN Property... through zoning, and the building permit process... (not to mention that they the Feds now say they own ALL moving water within the US).

Heck... it can be argued that the only entity which now HAS true property rights... ie the ability to use land as it wishes, is the Federal Government...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 09, 2013 10:45 AM (lZBBB)

42 "Someone noted something in a comment to the San Francisco paper - George Lucas/Disney operates on Federal land controlled by the National Park Service in the San Francisco Presidio." Wikipedia: "The Letterman Digital Arts Center, located in the Presidio, San Francisco, became the new combined home of Industrial Light and Magic, LucasArts, and Lucasfilm's marketing, online, and licensing units in 2005. Opening ceremonies were held June 25, 2005. The $350 million, 850,000 square foot (79,000 mÂ²) center is home to 1500 employees, who began moving there in July, 2005. The grounds were designed by landscape architect Lawrence Halprin, who has also restored San Francisco's Ghirardelli Square. The design architect for the buildings was Gensler, and architect of record was HKS, Inc." Why is the National Parks Service allowing them to stay open?

Posted by: Insanity at October 09, 2013 10:45 AM (QgAFR)

43 Beautiful. Well done, Ace.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 09, 2013 10:45 AM (encrR)

44
And if you knew a damn thing about anything, this would have occurred to you.

But you don't, so it didn't, and your nasty, ignorant obnoxiously-overconfident leftist ideology papers over all the gaps in your knowledge base.

Stop, ace, stop! You had me at hello!

*swoon*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 10:46 AM (4df7R)

45 I use to view a park ranger as affable person answering questions about trails nature and so on. Carrying a gun was just part of the uniform. They keep this stupid shit up they'll come across as the LAPD Ramparts Division.

Posted by: YIKES! at October 09, 2013 10:46 AM (mETGQ)

46 ot
I thought the traditional gift was a toaster. IYKWIMAITTYD

So that's where all my laughs went.

Posted by: The couch at October 09, 2013 10:46 AM (DL2i+)

47 You know, these toddler tantrum, dog-in-the-manger actions were the mark of Obama from the beginning. Remember TFG's "Cash for Clunkers"? They took every single one of those used cars which could've been used by the young or working poor and destroyed the engines by pouring sodium silicate into the gas tank and ran the engine until it was irrevocably ruined. Why? Because fuck you. Creepy little tyrant a-hole from day one. Thanks LIVs!

Posted by: Not the KGB at October 09, 2013 10:46 AM (0cMkb)

48 That was excellent.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2013 10:46 AM (g1DWB)

49 Whoa. Epic post, dude.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 09, 2013 10:46 AM (kcfmt)

50 Very interesting, informative article, Ace; Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 10:46 AM (a4Omg)

51 Nice and very intense article. I hope some of these Smokeys had the sense to demand orders in writing, or they are going to be the Two Rogue Employees in Cincinnati when the lawsuits start. I wrote to my Congresscritter suggesting that the national parks AND federally-owned public land be turned over to the states. Just a thought.

Posted by: Surellin at October 09, 2013 10:46 AM (DWuhs)

52 I know when I've hiked in Nat'l Parks in the winter, when staffing is sporadic at best, there's usually a little drop box to pay your entry fees and backcountry fees, and it's on the honor system. That's what I expected would happen in a shutdown. Instead, we got the NPS SWAT team. But please, let's give the federal govt even more power. Posted by: brak Excellent point.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 09, 2013 10:46 AM (l3vZN)

BTW,

"Goo-goo gah-gah, I don' wanna buy this lakefront property. Goo-goo gah-gah, I hereby abrogate this contract."

I can't be the only one who pictured an infant alexthechick saying this. Right?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 10:47 AM (4df7R)

54 Meanwhile, the National Park Service has cancelled a children's sandcastle building contest on Ocean Beach in San Francisco on Saturday. I wonder how many armed park rangers they will send to make sure the sand castle building contest doesn't happen. Prize winning photo opportunity! Kid being cuffed by ranger while two rangers in the background kick over his sandcastle.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 09, 2013 10:47 AM (yETln)

55 Merchants in the vicinity of any National Park should refuse service to current NPS employees and family in perpetuity.

Posted by: Beto at October 09, 2013 10:48 AM (VWfCN)

56 >>So who would have standing to sue over this? I would think any member of the public would have standing, since the property in question is held in trust for the entire public. However, to be safe, the most appropriate person to bring an action would be someone who has been denied access to the property or whose view of it was deliberately blocked by the government. As to remedies, a litigant could seek an injunction preventing any government agent from interfering with the public's lawful access to and enjoyment of the property. Or, he could seek a writ of prohibition (ordering the government to stop its obstructionist conduct).

Posted by: angler at October 09, 2013 10:48 AM (+zZOH)

57 And wait till they get your healthcare.....they will go out of their way to harm your health if there is a gov shut down or threat of a budget cut. Fucking prole, get in line and know your role.

Posted by: Mr Pink at October 09, 2013 10:48 AM (EmcU0)

58 What would you do if the property management company you contracted with barrycaded your property? Why, you'd fire them and get another. Time to get another.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 09, 2013 10:48 AM (SzAZ7)

59 I wonder how many armed park rangers they will send to make sure the sand castle building contest doesn't happen.

Posted by: Insanity at October 09, 2013 02:39 PM (QgAFR)

Hmmm.... maybe if we all build a Wall????

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 09, 2013 10:48 AM (lZBBB)

60 By retreating from, for example, their closure of Claude Moore Farm, the NPS have admitted they had no authority to make the closure in the first place, and it should be obvious to a jury that they were acting solely out of malice.

These particular park rangers and their superiors should not be accorded immunity from prosecution for unlawful imprisonment, unlawful arrest, harassment, threatening with a deadly weapon, and whatever else.

They should be prosecuted, fined, and jailed.

Posted by: Troll Feeder agrees with the OP at October 09, 2013 10:48 AM (bx2M/)

61 You do know lad the Independents rather find the information tainted..

Posted by: Sabre Rattler at October 09, 2013 10:49 AM (3GuQx)

62 I was born in Venezuela, where the government was corrupt and everyone who worked for it was a thug and a goon.

Until the second term of Barack Obama, I honestly never worried about tyranny here.

"They'll simply refuse to obey," I thought, "because they understand the value of freedom. The government can call for whatever craziness it wants, but the foot soldiers will say 'Fuck you. I'm not doing that to my fellow citizens.'"

I was wrong. It CAN happen here. There's no shortage of people willing to strap on guns and enforce tyrannical laws. The reason is us-versus-them.

Everyone in the government is now on one side, and the rest of us are on the other. It turns out that human nature is human nature everywhere, even here. All federal workers see us as the enemy. We threaten their bennies, so we need to be intimidated into obedience.

The only solution is to emasculate the federal government. Reduce it down to almost zero. Simply put, people can't be trusted with power, so we need to take it away from them.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 09, 2013 10:49 AM (81H5s)

63 I'm still trying to decide which is more despicable: the federales forcing private citizens out of their homes around Lake Mead because they're on federal land, or the federales unlawfully detaining innocent Americans and foreign visitors at Yellowstone and not permitting them to leave. The outrages are so unbelievable that I can't even rank them.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 10:49 AM (4df7R)

64 Goo-goo gah-gah, I hereby abrogate this contract.

I'm totally imagining Bugs-Bunny-dressed-as-a-baby.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 09, 2013 10:50 AM (/kI1Q)

65 As someone who lives in close proximity to Yellowstone and generally visits the park at least 5 or 6 times a year, (and sometimes upward of once a month), I'm done with them for the next three years. The park service can kiss my ass and my generosity bye-bye .

Posted by: Fritz at October 09, 2013 10:50 AM (UzPAd)

66 2) Scrupulously avoid damaging the interests of the beneficial owner, for example, to personally benefit a third party or the trustee himself. ******* Ace how the hell does the BLM just auction off packages of land then? Ugh. I don't get that.

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2013 10:50 AM (r2PLg)

67 Is there a good way to share individual posts on Facebook? Whenever I try to I can't get it to work.

This is a good one, Ace.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 09, 2013 10:50 AM (YmPwQ)

68 @
10 It's time for the three year old to throw a tantrum and kick the trustee in the testicles.

Posted by: Roy at October 09, 2013 02:39 PM (VndSC)

Mooch ain't gonna like it, people be kicking at her purse.

Posted by: Troll Feeder agrees with the OP at October 09, 2013 10:50 AM (bx2M/)

69 Legally, I sure Ace has made some legally valid points, but one must concede that it is a small price to pay when it allows the country tobe headed up by a man with such a wonderful crease in his pants

Posted by: David Brooks at October 09, 2013 10:50 AM (Pr6hk)

70 Perhaps spreading a large tarp over Mt Rushmore would silence the chattering class, yes?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2013 10:51 AM (xdC/M)

71 Ace, please consider sending this to the director at the Claude Moore Colonial Farm.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 10:51 AM (a4Omg)

72 How does an Independent win conservative blogger of the year?

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2013 10:51 AM (m2CN7)

73 The definition of divided property interests you describe is called the "bundle of sticks." --- Know what is Italian for "bundle of sticks"? "Fasces". At least the guy who named his ideology for that object could make the trains run on time, unlike this jackass.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 10:51 AM (/Crba)

74 Interesting post, informative and rich.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 09, 2013 10:51 AM (qRasw)

75 ""The Letterman Digital Arts Center, located in the Presidio, San Francisco, became the new combined home of Industrial Light and Magic, LucasArts, and Lucasfilm's marketing, online, and licensing units in 2005." Why is the National Parks Service allowing them to stay open? "During the campaign, George Lucas once famously suggested that Barack Obama was a Jedi Knight, a fictional mystic warrior depicted in the Star Wars series. As recently as February 12th, during a Lincoln celebration at Ford's Theater, George Lucas favorably compared President Barack Obama to his signature character, Luke Skywalker."

Posted by: Insanity at October 09, 2013 10:51 AM (QgAFR)

@57

You're thinking too rationally. Besides, I think this would only incur ordinary scrutiny (or the rational basis test) which laws hardly ever fail, and that's assuming it makes it that far because it could always receive the "political question" punt.

Someone like the private colonial farm or person who has a business closed down would be a better litigant because they could show actual pecuniary damages.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 10:52 AM (t06LC)

77 @
6 The definition of divided property interests you describe is called the "bundle of sticks."

I shit you not. Your "unified ownership interest" does sound more scientific.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 02:38 PM (t06LC)

"Unified ownership interest" does a better job of conveying the idea, I think.

Posted by: Troll Feeder agrees with the OP at October 09, 2013 10:52 AM (bx2M/)

78 Those of y'all who are so sure that the police and the military would be on our side should it ever come down to a shootin' match might want to take a good, hard look at the behavior of NPS rangers here. I have enormous respect for the military and no small measure of respect for the police, but...... I just don't know. Absolute best case might be half living up to their oaths, and even that might be optimistic. It would be bloody, very, very bloody.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 09, 2013 10:52 AM (jt8G9)

It's almost like Barry's *trying* to get impeached or force a Constitutional crisis or something. I mean-- the optics are so bad, he has to know that he's going too far, right?

Or, yeah, combination of bubble, ego, etc.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 09, 2013 10:52 AM (zgHLA)

80 As a retired police office and a veteran, How do you fucking park rangers sleep at night? You should be ashamed of your selves. Your union leader should be calling for a sick out against the obama administration.

Posted by: RiverRat at October 09, 2013 10:52 AM (k3CwT)

81 What really toasts my biscuit is the media doing a complete blackout on the political way the White House is enforcing this non-law law. There was a HUGE amnesty protest on the Mall yesterday and the hypocrisy of the WH allowing this to go forward while keeping the rest of us out of parks and monuments is hardly being mentioned.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2013 10:52 AM (g1DWB)

82 Who's crazy and racist now?

Posted by: Dr Ron Paul at October 09, 2013 10:52 AM (qRasw)

83 But the media doesn't know a whole lot of Huge things, but they paper over their manifold ignorances with the confident swagger of the Righteously, Ignorantly, Indignantly Partisan. I would add glasses and pancake (makeup). A thinly veiled Facade is all the rage.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 09, 2013 10:52 AM (IXrOn)

84 Yeah, concur with others. This is a great post. Provides a unified theory of media sucky-suckiness and shutdown theater. Needs more cheerleader pictures.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 09, 2013 10:53 AM (SzAZ7)

85 Obama's 2009 Inauguration contributions: Lucas, George Lucasfilm Ltd San Rafael CA $50,000

Posted by: Insanity at October 09, 2013 10:53 AM (QgAFR)

86 The only solution is to emasculate the federal government. Reduce it down to almost zero. Simply put, people can't be trusted with power, so we need to take it away from them.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 09, 2013 02:49 PM (81H5s)

That is exactly right. Government is sometimes a necessary evil, but it is always an evil. The solution is to restrict government to only those items which are absolutely necessary, which is about 10% of what they are involved in today.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2013 10:53 AM (U292F)

87 The only solution is to emasculate the federal government. Reduce it down to almost zero. Simply put, people can't be trusted with power, so we need to take it away from them. We could limit the federal government power and ability to certain specific functions. An enumeration of abilities if you will.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 09, 2013 10:53 AM (yETln)

88 I thought Obama was a lawyer.

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2013 10:53 AM (nsOJa)

89 Outstanding post, Ace.

Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2013 10:54 AM (HjPtV)

"During the campaign, George Lucas once famously suggested that Barack Obama was a Jedi Knight, a fictional mystic warrior depicted in the Star Wars series. As recently as February 12th, during a Lincoln celebration at Ford's Theater, George Lucas favorably compared President Barack Obama to his signature character, Luke Skywalker."

Gagged me much, that did. The stupid is strong with this one.

Posted by: Yoda at October 09, 2013 10:54 AM (0HooB)

91 I have enormous respect for the military and no small measure of respect for the police, but......

I just don't know. Absolute best case might be half living up to their oaths, and even that might be optimistic. It would be bloody, very, very bloody.

I can assure you, that the Marines our son served with would never turn on the citizenry. No way in hell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 10:54 AM (lVPtV)

92 Really fantastic stuff here. But one thing: They don't care. It's an administration and a philosophy that don't concern themselves with the means, just the ends. Even if the media were to explain this all perfectly, it'd be no less a political move. We're really down to state-of-nature stuff with this administration. It's bare-knuckled fighting now. They have the power and that's just it. There are no breaks on them except as the people (informed by the media) pressure them on it. No legal niceties or intellectual arguments help at this point. Obama's Emperor Palpatine in that scene in Episode III: "Unlimited power!"

Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2013 10:54 AM (T0NGe)

93 'independents' vote less, know less, care less, and do less than registered Rs or Ds

polls been showing that since the 1950s ( when the first nationwide political polls were conducted--originally piggybacked on consumer polls asking people which laundry detergent they liked, etc

Polls up through the 80s showed that those who care the most about politics know the most, but for the past decade or two there's been a change---the rise of the Young Incoherent Left, where mostly young people care a lot and allegedly do a lot, but don't know Sh*t

Hello, Chad H from Chattanooga.

Posted by: Major _______ de Coverly at October 09, 2013 10:54 AM (omBWL)

I know it's been said before, not just by me, but these private businesses that are being closed down by the NPS just because they lease federal land should sue the pants off the government for the loss of revenue, the emotional wear and tear, the refunds they've been forced to issue in light of their business being illegally shuttered. And yes, I know the government has no money but what it gets from the taxpayers; but fuck that. Make that part of the point. Drive that home HARD. "They said they did it to save money. Well they didn't. And now YOUR money, Joe Schmoe and Cindy Lou Taxpayer, is going to be used to pay for their illegal actions. YOUR MONEY."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 10:54 AM (4df7R)

95 @
26 Okay, that's interesting. So who would have standing to sue over this? Anybody? How would you force the Interior department to relent? What recourse do the people have? Not rhetorical questions, by the way. Could somebody make them pay?

Posted by: joncelli at October 09, 2013 02:43 PM (RD7QR)

They should not "pay."

They should each, individually, and every one do time in jail.

Posted by: Troll Feeder is justifiably vindictive at October 09, 2013 10:55 AM (bx2M/)

96 1 Who knew the NPS would be Obama's Brown Shirts? A passive-aggressive dictatorial tyrant? Sounds about right. I figure Meter Maids will be his Gestapo.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2013 10:55 AM (T0NGe)

97 Also, because of the Star Wars thing above I skimmed (at work and so bored), I want to mention the Obama/Palpatine comparison that's been oft-floated, especially when he rammed the ACA through the Senate, and also the time he Force-choked that Fox News reporter.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 09, 2013 10:55 AM (zgHLA)

98 If indeed he is a lawyer, I can only conclude that Obama allows such illegal actions to occur not due to ignorance but due to malice.

Posted by: dogfish at October 09, 2013 10:55 AM (nsOJa)

99 As I said, any federal employee who is on board with obama screwing The People is just as big of a cocksucker as obama.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2013 10:55 AM (Nk0AM)

100 tl;dr Obama is a SCoaMT

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 09, 2013 10:56 AM (XvHmy)

101 Yes his is a good size scandal but the biggest? I don't think so. I rank the bigger scandals as follows:

1. Benghazi - multiple people killed including an ambassador and a ton of advanced weapons stolen. Incompetence and perjury involved.

2. Fast and Furious - Illegal transfer of guns across the border to drug lords. Mutiple people killed including a border guard. Again incompetence, perjury, and stonewalling involved.

3. IRS/et al targeting conservative groups on the Obama "enemies list". One of the Nixon impeachment charges for just having the list. What did Obama do? Promote the guilty parties and give them a golden parachute retirement.

And the list goes on, these are the ones off the top of my head that are much worse than this one.

Posted by: Vic at October 09, 2013 10:56 AM (zZbNF)

102 "Do they have the legal right to do this? No. The media doesn't understand this, however, as they're ignorant. Because they are ignorant of the law, their ignorance serves to permit their ideology and partisan rooting interest to make the call on this behavior, and deem it normal and acceptable. " Something tells me this 'ignorance' would disappear if an R president was pulling this crap. They'd quote the law that says this is illegal verbatim....over and over again.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 09, 2013 10:56 AM (bCEmE)

103 And that includes all the douche bag top brass in the military.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2013 10:56 AM (Nk0AM)

104 @92 Jane D. I believe you. I also believe that those leaving the service will be watched intently upon their return to society, with O-care being one of the vehicles. PTSD, don't you know.

Posted by: RS at October 09, 2013 10:56 AM (YAGV/)

105

>>They took every single one of those used cars which could've been used by the young or working poor and destroyed the engines by pouring sodium silicate into the gas tank and ran the engine until it was irrevocably ruined.
.

.And that made the value of my 2004 Corolla with 150,000 miles on it $4,000 dollars when I sold it and not the $1,000 it should have been. I made a bundle off that car.

Posted by: Registered Voter at October 09, 2013 10:56 AM (AHX9J)

106 "The media has several reasons for not giving any play to shutdown theater. The first is obviously simple partisanship -- they know Obama is a weak president, they all support Obama, and they want him to "win" in the current fight, as the summer and fall have been dominated by nothing but high-profile failures, embarrassments, climbdowns, and reversals." It could be just as simple as an environment of groupthink that fears being seen as anti-black, which is both paternalistic and, as we are seeing, damaging to our country.

Posted by: Scott M at October 09, 2013 10:57 AM (AdBfq)

107

>>>Instead, we got the NPS SWAT team. But please, let's give the federal govt even more power.

Hah. You know? I was thinking of all those idiot Survivalist types what plan on strapping on a backpack and 'livin off the land' when the SHTF and all - it just cracked me up

Posted by: Bigby's Chocolatey Fingers at October 09, 2013 10:57 AM (3ZtZW)

108 The media. The ultimate helicopter parent.

Posted by: Scott M at October 09, 2013 10:57 AM (AdBfq)

109 >>>Think about that for a minute. The Park Service, which is supposed to serve the public by administering parks, is now in the business of forcing parks they donÂ’t administer to close.

**

It really is breath taking. Whats worse is that the average lefty has no qualms with this or as Ace said is just too ignorant or arrogant to realize the problem here.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 09, 2013 10:57 AM (wmU4G)

110 Terrific writing Ace: Intelligent and informative writing paired with a bit of humor. Speaking of, did you LOL at yourself while typing the words"Goo Goo Gah Gah"?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 09, 2013 10:57 AM (DmNpO)

111 because it could always receive the "political question" punt. *********** Ya--I'm glad the farm has a donor with a bigger bundle of cash--funding their case. You wouldn't recommend they spend their own funds fighting the Fed on this would you--the above being just one of the reasons--"political question"?

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2013 10:57 AM (r2PLg)

112 A leftist is predisposed to take the left fork, for example, and a conservative the right. (A libertarian gets out a coin and flips it.) Nah, libertarians reject the tyranny of socially approved pathfinding and go straight through the bushes 4 wheel drive.

Posted by: entropy at October 09, 2013 10:57 AM (TULs6)

113 Why is the National Parks Service allowing them to stay open?

Disney Corp is a major sucker of SCOAMF dick. CEO campaigned for him; they're big promoters of Obamacare and of Mooch's food bullying.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 09, 2013 10:57 AM (/kI1Q)

114 "During the campaign, George Lucas once famously suggested that Barack Obama was a Jedi Knight, a fictional mystic warrior depicted in the Star Wars series. Darth Vader was a Jedi.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 09, 2013 10:58 AM (jt8G9)

115 It would be possible to sharpen your argument, if you like. The Natural Bridge in the Shenandoah Valley is privately-owned and operated for a profit. (Last time I was down that way, it was for sale, so it's conceivable that that's changed recently, but I don't think so. If so, just change "is" to "was" and keep on reading.)

If the owners of the Natural Bridge wanted to close their gates and shut down their hotel during peak season and put up a big barrier with guard dogs so no one can get near the bridge or even see it from the ground, or hike the trails leading to it, they have a perfect right to do so. (We would still be able to fly over and look at it from the air.) There might be some legal complications in canceling long-standing reservations, but, as long as they have the fine print on their side, they're clear there, too. They don't have to let anyone see their giant rock with the big hole in it, or stay in their hotel, or enter their property, if they don't want to, because they own them, not in trust in for anyone else, but free and clear.

The NPS just acts as if they own the national parks, when in fact we (taxpayers) own them and they work for us.

Anyway, I just thought you might like an example of a very similar park that is in fact owned by those who operate it.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at October 09, 2013 10:58 AM (z3eU6)

116 You don't own that plane, the taxpayers do!

Posted by: Stinger at October 09, 2013 10:58 AM (XNawE)

117 >It's almost like Barry's *trying* to get impeached or force a Constitutional crisis or something. I mean-- the optics are so bad, he has to know that he's going too far, right?

he knows the press will cover his ass

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 10:58 AM (8sCoq)

118

@91

I'd say Obama does remind me of one of George's Jedi Knights: Anakin.

No not the cool version with the breathing apparatti, or even the version which got laid with Natile Portman. The whiny annoying kid Anakin.

Either that or Jar Jar.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 10:58 AM (t06LC)

119 BLM auctions off land in a simple manner. Take Nevada for example: 1) A wealthy developer, Mr. Bucks, identifies some BLM property he'd like to develop. If only BLM would put it up for auction. Ideally with minimal notification to other potential buyers. 2) Mr. Bucks calls up Senator Reid and say, I sure would love to develop this land in Nevada. Oh, by the way, here's a huge campaign contribution. 3) Senator Reid has one of his staffer's call a bureaucrat in the bowels of the BLM and has the land put up for auction. 4) Senator Reid and some of his loyal friends are allowed to buy shares in the development at amazingly low rates. Magic!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 09, 2013 10:58 AM (ZPrif)

120
Someone noted something in a comment to the San Francisco paper - George Lucas/Disney operates on Federal land controlled by the National Park Service in the San Francisco Presidio.

I read that story, or at least a synopsis of it. There's also a high end hotel that was left alone. The excuse given was that these establishments/businesses didn't cost the federal govt anything.

In other words, hypocrisy for politics.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 09, 2013 10:58 AM (0IhFx)

121 The LIVs may in fact see all of this as spiteful and petulant. Problem is, they think it's Boehner's and Cruz's fault. The GOP, as usual, is not getting in front of this.

OFA is though, they have a commercial blaming the Barry-cades on the Tea Party.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 09, 2013 10:58 AM (B/VB5)

122

Seriously, who on this blog is ready to file suit for a breach of fiduciary duty??!!

That would be epic.

Posted by: prescient11 at October 09, 2013 10:59 AM (tVTLU)

123 Shorter version: They have violated the trust of the American People.

It's no different than cops and judges accepting bribes.

They are using their position of authority--loaned to them by the people--for a personal benefit. That benefit being the ever growing government. For as long as the government grows, there will be more and more money for themselves.

They have been told they are "non-essential." That means they could (and now, should) be fired, done away with.

And they are using their trust to extort for themselves the safety of their own financial comfort and welfare.

Taking from us for them.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 09, 2013 10:59 AM (VjL9S)

124 104 And that includes all the douche bag top brass in the military. Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2013 02:56 PM (Nk0AM) ********** Well it is DoD--civilians making the --don't pay for the families to fly to Dover decision. You get that? It isn't the military active duty making that decision--not even the top brass.

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2013 10:59 AM (r2PLg)

125 @CDC Closed due to funding, anthrax may find its way into your drinking water #shutdown #thanksboehner

Posted by: |_+\ at October 09, 2013 10:59 AM (+hhsZ)

126 So would this go for corps of engineers ground too? They've got my fishing spots "blocked" off. Been thinking about making some calls. Sheriff, wildlife and Parks to see if they're enforcing the "barricades", which can easily be driven around. Also thinking about calling the governor.

Posted by: nothinglefttolose at October 09, 2013 10:59 AM (QbKVX)

127 And yeah, I know Force-choking was more Vader's thing (Palpatine used Force lighting more), but forget it. I was rolling.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 09, 2013 11:00 AM (zgHLA)

128 120 BLM auctions off land in a simple manner. Take Nevada for example: 1) A wealthy developer, Mr. Bucks, identifies some BLM property he'd like to develop. If only BLM would put it up for auction. Ideally with minimal notification to other potential buyers. 2) Mr. Bucks calls up Senator Reid and say, I sure would love to develop this land in Nevada. Oh, by the way, here's a huge campaign contribution. 3) Senator Reid has one of his staffer's call a bureaucrat in the bowels of the BLM and has the land put up for auction. 4) Senator Reid and some of his loyal friends are allowed to buy shares in the development at amazingly low rates. Magic! Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 09, 2013 02:58 PM (ZPrif) ******* Yep. I'm thinking of Nevada--specifically.

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2013 11:00 AM (r2PLg)

129 Honestly, though, govt will just argue that anything they do is, ultimately, for the Greater Good, so it really is best, in the long run, for the beneficiary, ie the American public.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 09, 2013 11:01 AM (ZPrif)

130 I can assure you, that the Marines our son served with would never turn on the citizenry. No way in hell.

Might be why they're using non-military employees--NPS, SEIU, teachers, etc--as the goon squad.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 09, 2013 11:01 AM (/kI1Q)

131 WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF?

National Park Service removing the handles from water fountains located on trails.
http://tinyurl.com/kdagda6

Have this dim bulbs of evil thugs pondered what happens if say a jogger collapses and dies?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 11:01 AM (ObMtJ)

132

(A libertarian gets out a coin and flips it.)

Why do you need to know which fork I'm going to take? Am I being detained?

Posted by: Gus Bailey at October 09, 2013 11:01 AM (SywTK)

133 I donÂ’t watch any news. Sometimes I will put on FNC but Im usually reading here at the same time. I havenÂ’t watched MSM since my older brother told me about Fox News on September 11, 2001. I wasnÂ’t aware they existed. I had MSNBC on most of that day and since there was nothing vey partisan that day it didnÂ’t bother me. I get my news here, from Rush, Levin and Beck and Howie Carr, local radio show host in Boston. Fox 25 in Boston is good in the morning, I change between that and Fox & Friends in the am when commercials are on. I almost cancelled TWS subscription because I never read the magazine, but they have a great website, only available to subscribers, so I renewed. This explains the LIV, they donÂ’t know that the media is corrupt. Is that Journolist back in practice? It certainly seems like it. TFG gets no tough questions because they donÂ’t want to ruin the SCOAMFÂ’s image. But, as Rush has said this afternoon, the media has not been hitting Obama and his rating is 37 and BushÂ’s lowest in 2006 was 32 or 33, while they were constantly hitting him on Iraq. The media doesnÂ’t have to hit Obama, heÂ’s slipping in the polls and thereÂ’s no one reporting it. I canÂ’t wait until heÂ’s down in the low 20s. I want to go outside to my roses. IÂ’ve been up since 8:30 but doing stupid things. IÂ’ll read it all later.

Posted by: CarolT at October 09, 2013 11:01 AM (z4WKX)

134 Magic!
Posted by: Flatbush Joe

You forgot the part where Diane Feinstein's husband makes a commission off the sale.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 09, 2013 11:01 AM (/kI1Q)

135 And then even DOD has trouble with the Department of Energy in Nevada. They rule for some reason.

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2013 11:01 AM (r2PLg)

136 Bravo!

Posted by: Piercello at October 09, 2013 11:01 AM (P4dpU)

137 I saw a video on YouTube, one of those things where you type in a script and computer-generated voices read the script using computer text-to-speech. The one part of it that had me howling with laughter was:

"I always thought journalism was an easy major. I didn't know that you are all Philosopher Kings who know more about everything than everyone else."

I don't remember exactly what the video was about, but I do remember that the female character was a journalist explaining that some stories need to be pushed and some need to be buried, and the male character asked how they knew which ones deserved which treatment before saying the above comment.

Posted by: mr_jack at October 09, 2013 11:02 AM (TMG3G)

138 You know what is kind of funny? I applied to the NPS for a job a few months ago. Had they hired me, I would have been in the middle of all this...silver lining to remaining unemployed, I guess.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 09, 2013 11:02 AM (sfIVg)

139 >It's almost like Barry's *trying* to get impeached or force a Constitutional crisis or something. I mean-- the optics are so bad, he has to know that he's going too far, right? >>he knows the press will cover his ass Its not just the press. I saw a piece on the tube today featuring the head ranger at the Grand Canyon. He was explaining to local business owners who are furious over the tourist $$ they are losing that the Canyon is closed until Congress does its job. Federal humps will be federal humps.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 09, 2013 11:02 AM (g1DWB)

140

If indeed he is a lawyer, I can only conclude that Obama allows such illegal actions to occur not due to ignorance but due to malice.

I've always assumed it's both. An affirmative action fucktard that thinks he knows much more than he does, and doesn't give a flying fuck about violating the laws that he may or may not understand correctly.

So I'm guessing when he does follow the law, it's usually by accident.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 09, 2013 11:02 AM (NF2Bf)

141 The National Park Service is a bundle of faggots.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 11:02 AM (uu42x)

142 Have this dim bulbs of evil thugs pondered what happens if say a jogger collapses and dies? --- And yet W was the inhumane one for putting water stations out in the middle of hot border areas so that illegals wouldn't die of dehydration.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:02 AM (/Crba)

143 135 Magic! Posted by: Flatbush Joe You forgot the part where Diane Feinstein's husband makes a commission off the sale. Posted by: HeatherRadishÂ™ needs a beer at October 09, 2013 03:01 PM (/kI1Q) ********* Or Pelosi's husband with that Navy Presidio deal in San Fran... How did that go again?

Posted by: tasker at October 09, 2013 11:02 AM (r2PLg)

144 wow... ace...so much content... *breaks down weeping* I'm gonna be chewing on this all afternoon, nicely done

Posted by: Eton Cox at October 09, 2013 11:02 AM (q177U)

145 Have this dim bulbs of evil thugs pondered what happens if say a jogger collapses and dies? Only Obama's goons can say this isn't "SpiteHouse" theatre.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 11:03 AM (a4Omg)

146 Sp.is the NPS the force as powerful as the military Obama wanted to create?These little hopped up pissants need to all be fired.Following orders,little pricks.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:03 AM (9XBK2)

147 NPS? NO! OBS! NPS? NO! OBS!

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 09, 2013 11:03 AM (A/ga/)

148 It's called "common sense". Anyone who took a civics class in high school or a basic economics class would know all about this. And, I think, this is one of the reasons the marxists in the education system have discontinued those courses.

Posted by: Soona at October 09, 2013 11:03 AM (3Mz5/)

149 Its not just the press. I saw a piece on the tube today featuring the head ranger at the Grand Canyon. He was explaining to local business owners who are furious over the tourist $$ they are losing that the Canyon is closed until Congress does its job. --- That guy better watch his back. I won't be surprised if the local businesses decide to "reopen" the Grand Canyon over his dead body if he and his rangers keep fucking with the tourists.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:03 AM (/Crba)

150

What amazes me about this is that you know Obama WANTS them to cover it. He wouldn't be going through all these theatrics, closing private businesses and barricading public spaces, if he didn't want it to be SEEN. He wants the MFM to report on how the "evil RethugliKKKans" are making these places close because the evil RethugliKKKans are the ones who caused the shut down.

But the MFM knows that won't fly. There are enough old hags and crotchety old bastards in the MFM to remember past shut downs, and they know that what Obammy is doing is above and beyond the level of any other shut down before. So they're trying to shelter him from his own ineptitude, which in turn is causing him and his flunkies to ratchet up the outrages.

We'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:03 AM (4df7R)

151 Bravo. I am terrified by the fact that I am to the point that I do not consider those members of the NPS who are performing these duties to be my fellow citizens. No. You are not. You are the functionaries of a tyrant and that you claim you are acting on behalf o my country is repugnant. The split is here. The question is only when the civil war goes fully hot.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 11:03 AM (VtjlW)

152 99 If indeed he is a lawyer, I can only conclude that Obama allows such illegal actions to occur not due to ignorance but due to malice. Obama is a lawyer in the way Willie Sutton was a Bank Security Expert.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2013 11:03 AM (T0NGe)

153 132 WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF?

National Park Service removing the handles from water fountains located on trails.
http://tinyurl.com/kdagda6

I'm going to need to take up sniffing glue. It's the only way.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:04 AM (lVPtV)

154 Ranger Smith Goes to Nuremberg.

Posted by: Tim at October 09, 2013 11:04 AM (xq7pr)

155 (As an Independent myself, I'm not saying all Independents are ignorant, of course. But, as a group, they do have the lowest level of information about current events and politics.)

I suspect it's because people who identify themselves as Republicans or Democrats have a "team" with "players" and are thus more likely to follow the team stars. People who follow football know a lot about football; since I don't, I know only the bare fraction of the rules that the non-football crowd would come in contact with.

Posted by: Null at October 09, 2013 11:04 AM (xjpRj)

156 I was wrong. It CAN happen here. There's no shortage of people willing to strap on guns and enforce tyrannical laws. The reason is us-versus-them. Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 09, 2013 02:49 PM (81H5s)

Yes, and it is terrifying, the true solution is to make every civil servant with a gun just as terrified of violating civil rights as we are terrified of them "Just following orders."

The most absolutely ironic thing about all of this is that the great-great grand children of slaves and freedmen and freedwomen who lived in terror of night riders, Sherriffsm and other lawmen are now among the ones who have no problem with this--because Obama, historic first Black POTUS trumps everything. Same goes for grandchildren of Holocaust survivors who think this is no big deal. And so on and so forth.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 11:04 AM (kXoT0)

157 There are a lot of reasons I keep coming here. This piece just added to that list. Way to bring it.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 09, 2013 11:04 AM (KjlbF)

158 Recall that the first draft of the DOI said "Life, Liberty, and Property". Then some bozo convinced Jefferson to change Property to The Pursuit Of Happiness.

Ace has argued here that he has an inalienable right to control his property as he sees fit. A libertarian would agree. This is where Rand Paul got into a bit of a spot, when he argued that the 1965 Civil Rights Act took away this right.

And he's right. (Ace and Rand)

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 09, 2013 11:04 AM (wNF3N)

159 I use to view a park ranger as affable person ~~answering~~ asking questions about ~~trails nature~~ drugs and ~~so on~~ alcohol.

A more realistic version.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at October 09, 2013 11:04 AM (epxV4)

160 Have this dim bulbs of evil thugs pondered what happens if say a jogger collapses and dies?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 03:01 PM (ObMtJ)

*clearing throat*

"The jogger shouldn't ahve been jogging in that area, since it is on federal land and thus closed due to the shut down."

Just channeling my inner gubmint asshole.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:05 AM (4df7R)

161 I'm not being critical of ace when I say this,but whate he wrote is so glaringly obvious for anyone with half a brain.Of course,that exempts the MFM and 99% of all Democrats.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:05 AM (9XBK2)

162 Every day at my house I have been putting up a whiteboard sign on "Spite House" Theatre. Removing taps off of water fountains will go up for tomorrow.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 11:05 AM (a4Omg)

163 Fuck the NPS with rusty razorblades. That is all.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:05 AM (/PCJa)

164 National Park Service removing the handles from water fountains located on trails. *** Leftist thought: If a trespasser at a closed park falls over due to dehydration, well they had it coming. The poor, poor folks crossing the border from Mexico.... well, that's different.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 09, 2013 11:05 AM (DmNpO)

165 in practice when dealing with the government, the public is everyone but you and public property is everyone's but yours.

Posted by: X at October 09, 2013 11:05 AM (KHo8t)

166 wow... ace...so much content... *breaks down weeping* I'm gonna be chewing on this all afternoon, nicely done Posted by: Eton Cox at October 09, 2013 03:02 PM (q177U) Wait, was this actually a movie review?

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 09, 2013 11:05 AM (XvHmy)

167 National Prick Service

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at October 09, 2013 11:06 AM (A/ga/)

168 Remember TFG's "Cash for Clunkers"? They took every single one of those used cars which could've been used by the young or working poor and destroyed the engines by pouring sodium silicate into the gas tank and ran the engine until it was irrevocably ruined. Why? Because fuck you. Creepy little tyrant a-hole from day one. Thanks LIVs! Posted by: Not the KGB at October 09, 2013 02:46 PM (0cMkb) I remember Cash for Clunkers! What a waste of good money and cars, IÂ’m sure the replacements were made of junk & arenÂ’t safe.

Posted by: CarolT at October 09, 2013 11:06 AM (z4WKX)

169 Frog march the NPS to the dock and ship them to Diego Garcia.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 11:06 AM (uu42x)

170 BTW, a reminder that these ESSENTIAL services still appear to be up and running: stennis.gov truman.gov openworld.gov

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 09, 2013 11:06 AM (DmNpO)

171 A lot of people are confusing independents with flip-floppers. There are very few flip-floppers who are generally dumb asses. Independents are people who are not registered with any party. Technically every voter in SC is an independent because there is NO party registration here.

And the number of flip-flopper is very low. I have heard numbers as low as < 5% of the voters. Independents almost always vote for one party or the other.

Posted by: Vic at October 09, 2013 11:06 AM (zZbNF)

172 Jane, I believe you, I truly do. Combat Marines, Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen would most likely be those who do remember their oaths. REMFs and support types, deployed to contain "civil unrest"? I. Don't. Know. Probably one of the reasons your son hates what's happening is the erosion of traditional military values and the politicization of the armed forces. My friends who serve have commented on it, does he see things differently? Please, I want to be wrong.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 09, 2013 11:07 AM (jt8G9)

173

I agree that this post is a good one but as someone said above, if the tables were turned from Democrat to Republican doing these things, the intentional obtuseness would disappear and the media would be quoting case precedent and law more than a Supreme Court Justice on speed.

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2013 11:07 AM (m2CN7)

174

One other thing. The NPS has premanently damaged itself by going along with this tyrannical behavior. Their greeny feel-good militant enviromentalist attitudes were eroding my faith in them at a rapid rate, but now they're dead to me.

Posted by: Soona at October 09, 2013 11:07 AM (3Mz5/)

175 A friend and I are supposed to go to a public shooting range this weekend, but I hear Obama blocked it off. I've been going to this place for years and never once seen a Ranger - ever. Question: Do we remove the barriers and shoot anyway? Is a Park Ranger really going to approach a man shooting his AR-15?

Posted by: CJR at October 09, 2013 11:07 AM (Vqcn4)

176 Congress IS doing it's fucking job!!!!

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:08 AM (9XBK2)

177 I solemnly promise

* I will not wear a "star" or be forced into a ghetto to allow myself to be controlled
* I will not get in line and get on the cattle car
* I will not tamely strip and go into the gas chamber

If you want this old bird, you have to follow your orders and come and get me, but, be advised, I may bite, kick, scratch, claw, shoot, or otherwise resist.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 11:08 AM (kXoT0)

178 You should have worked an XBOX into your analogy.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 11:08 AM (uu42x)

179 I shit you not. Your "unified ownership interest" does sound more scientific.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 02:38 PM (t06LC)

Fee Simple Absolute.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet has Petulance and Tantrums in all styles and colors! at October 09, 2013 11:08 AM (hLRSq)

180 Regarding the Great Smokey Mountains National Park (others have similar wording): Federal Law states in 16 USC Â§ 403 "When title to lands within the areas hereinafter referred to shall have been vested in the United States in fee simple there are established, dedicated, and set apart as public parks for the benefit and enjoyment of the people..."

Posted by: darelf at October 09, 2013 11:08 AM (Z1WKS)

181 157 I was wrong. It CAN happen here. There's no shortage of people willing to strap on guns and enforce tyrannical laws. The reason is us-versus-them. Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 09, 2013 02:49 PM (81H5s) Yes, and it is terrifying, the true solution is to make every civil servant with a gun just as terrified of violating civil rights as we are terrified of them "Just following orders." The most absolutely ironic thing about all of this is that the great-great grand children of slaves and freedmen and freedwomen who lived in terror of night riders, Sherriffsm and other lawmen are now among the ones who have no problem with this--because Obama, historic first Black POTUS trumps everything. Same goes for grandchildren of Holocaust survivors who think this is no big deal. And so on and so forth. ---- And, as I keep saying, do not believe for a minute that the left is not armed.

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 09, 2013 11:08 AM (4LI4E)

182 They took every single one of those used cars which could've been used by the young or working poor and destroyed the engines by pouring sodium silicate into the gas tank and ran the engine until it was irrevocably ruined. Why? Because fuck you. Creepy little tyrant a-hole from day one. Thanks LIVs! Posted by: Not the KGB at October 09, 2013 02:46 PM (0cMkb) Remember the video of them trying to disable a Volvo? Took them forever but they finally did it. Reminded me of their 'holy right'....abortion.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 09, 2013 11:08 AM (bCEmE)

183 I often wonder what websites the Republican members of Congress read. Are they getting the info about the Claude Moore Colonial House, the tourists in Yellowstone and the water fountains on trails?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 11:09 AM (a4Omg)

184 In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. ~ Stuff Jefferson Really Said

Posted by: Andy at October 09, 2013 11:09 AM (6Y9v5)

185

That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection.

Ace: hank you, Your Honor.

[firm tone] Overruled.

Posted by: AE at October 09, 2013 11:09 AM (sSKe8)

186 If a Republican were doing this,the vast majority of Republicans would decry it as wrong.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:09 AM (9XBK2)

187 And the number of flip-flopper is very low. I have heard numbers as low as < 5% of the voters. Independents almost always vote for one party or the other.

Posted by: Vic at October 09, 2013 03:06 PM (zZbNF)

Then they really can't be considered independent by their actions. They are IINOs.

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2013 11:09 AM (m2CN7)

188 Next time the Repubs hold the White House, don't say it's vengeful to prosecute the current executive branch. Not vengeance - justice.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at October 09, 2013 11:09 AM (83xuc)

189 The media are simply reading off the White House Teleprompter (aka off their buzzing blackberries*). *yeah, Mika, Gregory, and upChuckTodd, we're looking at you

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 09, 2013 11:10 AM (IXrOn)

190

>>WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF?

National Park Service removing the handles from water fountains located on trails.
http://tinyurl.com/kdagda6

Have this dim bulbs of evil thugs pondered what happens if say a jogger collapses and dies?

.That's why you should always carry a Gerber multi-tool.

Posted by: Registered Voter at October 09, 2013 11:10 AM (A6Gpk)

191 I am simply gobsmacked. Taking the handles off water fountains to ensure American citizens do not use trails in parks that are meant for them to enjoy and appreciate.

Has anyone found out how many rounds the NPS has? Perhaps while we worried over DHS purchases, the NPS has been equipped with Strykers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 11:10 AM (ObMtJ)

192 I read that story, or at least a synopsis of it. There's also a high end hotel that was left alone. The excuse given was that these establishments/businesses didn't cost the federal govt anything. In other words, hypocrisy for politics. Betcha $10 the owner is a Democrat donor.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 09, 2013 11:10 AM (T0NGe)

193 Oh, come on, Ace. Knowledge isn't in their job description.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 09, 2013 11:10 AM (IXrOn)

194 I'm not being critical of ace when I say this,but what he wrote is so glaringly obvious for anyone with half a brain.Of course,that exempts the MFM and 99% of all Democrats.

Posted by: steevy

That which is not recited is forgotten.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 09, 2013 11:10 AM (ooEwf)

195 They government will hold us hostage with our healthcare. I just hope Boehner stays strong. I didnÂ’t read WSJ editorial today by Paul Ryan. IÂ’ll read it tonight. We know WSJ has an agenda. Yellowstone had rangers standing in front of Old Faithful when it would go off? This is a petty,little man. IF anyone wants to read real news, sign up for InvestorÂ’s Business Daily editorials. They are free and an honest source of the news.

Posted by: CarolT at October 09, 2013 11:11 AM (z4WKX)

196 > I saw a video on YouTube, one of those things where you type in a script and computer-generated voices read the script using computer text-to-speech.

it's called Xtranormal and it's free to use. Here's one I made:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj6Au77jaoc

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 11:11 AM (8sCoq)

197 And that made the value of my 2004 Corolla with 150,000 miles on it $4,000 dollars when I sold it and not the $1,000 it should have been. I made a bundle off that car.

It changed the price not the VALUE.
So the Ds spent 3000$ of our money for your car and you didn't even vote for them. Obviously we should put them in charge of more things.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2013 11:11 AM (DL2i+)

198 If a Republican were doing this,the vast majority of Republicans would decry it as wrong.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 03:09 PM (9XBK2)

Yes but we will never know for sure because that is like saying if Billy Graham snorted coke and hired hookers his congregation would rebuke him.

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2013 11:11 AM (m2CN7)

199 --But when the government is actually Spending More Money to harass and harm citizens, sorry media, there is no possible way to construe this as "acting for the benefit of the trustees."-- I believe you meant "beneficiaries," not trustees. Benefiting the trustees (the government employees) is exactly what they are trying to do.

Posted by: CrabbyOldBat at October 09, 2013 11:11 AM (ZVKoE)

200 Betcha $10 the owner is a Democrat donor. That, or the Democrats patronize that business frequently and would be somehow put out by its closure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:11 AM (/PCJa)

201 The NPS has premanently damaged itself by going along with this tyrannical behavior.

Same for me, Soona. If you are going to act like the Gestapo, I'm going to treat you like the Gestapo.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 09, 2013 11:12 AM (wtvvX)

202 Probably one of the reasons your son hates what's happening is the erosion of traditional military values and the politicization of the armed forces. My friends who serve have commented on it, does he see things differently? Please, I want to be wrong.

Posted by: Weirddave at October 09, 2013 03:07 PM (jt8G9)

Actually, the Corp(se) is probably the least-PC of the military. Sequestration affected training (no fuel, not enough weapons). And having a Marxist for president didn't help.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:12 AM (lVPtV)

203
Its not that they don't know, but they don't want to know, they don't care to ask, to dig, to study.

As is with most of their storylines, they know if they ask they might find something that does not fit their political narrative. They are Anti-Journalists.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 09, 2013 11:12 AM (sj9LN)

204 @ZekeJMiller

NBC: Pentagon reaches deal to allow Fisher House to temporarily pay the $100,000 death benefit to families of fallen service members

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 09, 2013 11:12 AM (ooEwf)

205 And, as I keep saying, do not believe for a minute that the left is not armed. Some are. But what is their best "engagement" distance. Because it had better be farther than curb to sidewalk.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2013 11:12 AM (NKBxV)

206 What's this? The media isn't reporting facts that would make The Lightworker look bad?

Oh my.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 09, 2013 11:12 AM (8ZskC)

207 Time for conservatives to do a Sharansky and sit down in the snow? http://tinyurl.com/lsesxtw

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 11:12 AM (a4Omg)

208

We are at the breaking point. The president has demonstrated to the whole world he can't figure out foreign relations. The Democrats have spent us to prostration. The country is politically divided. Without an election we won't see clarity soon.

So, when does China shoot at a Japanese patrol boat? When does Russia mass troops on the Ukraine border? You know these guys can barely contain their aspirations for dominance of other countries in the best of times, and these aren't the best of times.

You know its only a matter of time before the U.S. is put into a very difficult position, probably having to decide between world war and defense of a critical ally, and that won't end well. The big bad dudes (as opposed to the clowns we are used to dealing with, like Assad or the various members of the Kim family) are the ones who will push us all over the edge.

Posted by: MTF at October 09, 2013 11:13 AM (B5y+v)

209 Next they'll be putting spike strips over park access roads and trails

Posted by: brak at October 09, 2013 11:14 AM (M2qTM)

210

Anyone else think Ace is maybe giving them too much credit by imagining they would even arrive at the Starbucks analogy?

Yes. Ace's argument is great, but I think the analogy the MFM would come to -- if indeed their skittering mouse brains were capable of thougth -- would be more like this:

>> That person owns their home. They can do what they want in their home.

>> The federal government owns federal land. They can do what they want on federal land.

Full stop.

No it doesn't make sense. Yes it's far too simplistic. That's why it's what the media believes.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:14 AM (4df7R)

211 They murdered a woman for turning around at a checkpoint.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 11:14 AM (uu42x)

212 I tell you what,it's a good thing no park ranger is likely to ask me to stop exercising my rights because I would end up very much regretting what I would do.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:14 AM (9XBK2)

213 Time for conservatives to do a Sharansky and sit down in the snow? At the very least its time to do a Rosa Parks and not move to the back of the bus. My feet are tired, how about y'all?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:15 AM (/PCJa)

214 Well that would be a growth industry. Set up shop outside the parks with the missing fountain handles. Sell the runners bottles of water and a water fountain handle.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 11:15 AM (ObMtJ)

215 What did you think of the volcano scene, Ace?

Posted by: Null at October 09, 2013 11:15 AM (xjpRj)

216 I often wonder what websites the Republican members of Congress read.

hamsterdance.com?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 09, 2013 11:15 AM (wtvvX)

217 "57 >>So who would have standing to sue over this?" Hahahahahahahahaha ahhh hahahahahahaha Suckers.

Posted by: SCOTUS at October 09, 2013 11:16 AM (ELdpj)

218 The lying ass is up.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 11:16 AM (uu42x)

219 214 Next they'll be putting spike strips over park access roads and trails

Posted by: brak at October 09, 2013 03:14 PM (M2qTM)

Jeebus. Some NSA goon just passed that idea along.

And TFG just mentioned The Middle Class. Fucking bastard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:16 AM (lVPtV)

220 Remember the video of them trying to disable a Volvo? Took them forever but they finally did it. Reminded me of their 'holy right'....abortion. **** I was actually quite sad watching that vid. It was almost as if the car had a spirit that refused to die. Imagine what fine car that would have made for some family.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 09, 2013 11:16 AM (DmNpO)

221 By the by, I just did a little wandering through the Wayback Machine and I cannot get at the pdf of the NPS supervisor directory. Yet. I do have to work at work today and I may go back to spelunking for it tonight. I would humbly suggest that as something the Horde can Hordesource since nearly all y'all are better at deep 'net trolling than I. Get the personnel directory. Post the names of every single solitary Ranger at Yellowstone and any and all other places. Call them out by name. Ask them if they were the ones who did this and, if not, why are they not out there screaming about their co-workers who did this. Name. Them. I'm glad that the Claude Moore Memorial Farm is back up. I would like it if the woman who runs it puts out the names of the people who gave her an unequivocal no, the names of the Rangers who were blocking them in and the names of the person who rescinded that order. Name. Them.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 11:16 AM (VtjlW)

222 5 Are there any stories out there about NPS officials disregarding the orders to bring the pain? It really sounds like they are all falling in line to serve dear leader. People should remember these people's actions when/if this is all over. Posted by: Havedash at October 09, 2013 02:37 PM (F0WNa) I've never fucking trusted the NPS, and now I trust them less.

Posted by: blindside at October 09, 2013 11:16 AM (WzWmY)

223

What the hell is next?

The paramilitary wing of the National Parks Service has placed quad-50 antiaircraft installations around Old Faithful in order to prevent the surreptitious snapping of photographs by tourists in slow moving Cessna 152's and hot air balloons.

"No son-of-a-bitch transgressing picture takers are gonna enjoy the image of Old Faithful as long as I'm President of the United States and John Boehner refuses to kiss my ring," said Barack Obama yesterday. Harry Reid has promised to support the President and made it "perfectly clear" that his Democratic colleagues are in complete lock-step with the Commander-in-Chief. "We are here to punish anyone - Japs, Koreans, Americans and anyone else who thinks that looking at Old Faithful is free," said Harry Reid. "Those damn Republicans have shut down Old Faithful and that means no one is going to get close enough to even sniff that national monument. We have commissioned the Army Corps of Engineers to make a really big cork and we plan to plug Old Faithful as soon as possible," Reid said.

Until the really big cork can be installed, Nancy Pelosi offered to sit astride Old Faithful acknowledging that her hideousness would repel all but the most stalwart of geyser-peekers and snap shot takers. "I'm willing to make this sacrifice because I love Barack Obama and hate those fucking Republicans," Pelosi is quoted as saying.

NPS officials did admit they were having a difficult time convincing the bison that due to the disastrous and devastating effects of the government shut down caused by the Republicans the grass of Yellowstone could no longer be eaten. "If the bison continue to eat grass that is not paid for we are going to be forced to shoot them," said an NPS official. "We will do what is necessary," he continued, "and have commissioned the manufacture of 3.5 million rounds of 300 Winchester Magnum with the image of Ted Cruz embossed on the casing. "That should get the job done," said the official.

Elsewhere on park land, the construction of 700 luxury condominiums continued unabated because the project has been designated for illegal aliens. "This project has not been impacted by the calculated and dastardly Republican shut down of the Federal Government due to the fact that the rights of illegal aliens are protected by the Constitution." said the project's manager. "The airstrip will be finished on time for feliz-navidad and we can begin transporting illegal Mexicans to their new condominiums and they will not have to suffer the risks of trekking across the dangerous border areas." the official said. "It is only right," he continued.

A generalissimo with the paramilitary wing of the National Parks Service was optimistic that the present impasse would be resolved very soon. "Republicans will soon realize that the American people are going to hold them responsible for holding a gun to the President's head and demanding that the Federal Government stop spending money like a drunken sailor on shore leave. And I have it on good authority that Barack Obama is ready to sign an executive order cancelling Thanksgiving and Christmas and all birthday parties, if necessary, if the Republicans don't get back where they belong, stop causing trouble and give Obama every single thing he wants. After all, he is the first black, well, half-black anyway, President," he said.

Posted by: Chamber Pot Party at October 09, 2013 11:17 AM (pXRt2)

224 Rand Paul doing a damn fine job on the Senate floor right now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 09, 2013 11:17 AM (DmNpO)

225 hamsterdance.com? Funny anecdote: one of my friends once took a support call from Weird Al Yankovic, whose only problem was "My hamsters have stopped dancing." For some reason he couldn't get hamsterdance.com to load.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:17 AM (/PCJa)

226 223 The lying ass is up. Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 03:16 PM (uu42x) Seriously?!?

Posted by: RWC at October 09, 2013 11:17 AM (fWAjv)

227 WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF? WTF?

National Park Service removing the handles from water fountains located on trails.
http://tinyurl.com/kdagda6

Have this dim bulbs of evil thugs pondered what happens if say a jogger collapses and dies?

***

So its safe to say that all these park rangers tree licking bark humping hippies who went into park service the save mother gaia.

I mean there is not ONE!! comander out there that has the balls to tells these drones to stand down!!?? WTF?!

Posted by: dananjcon at October 09, 2013 11:17 AM (wmU4G)

228 I love my "mute" button.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:17 AM (lVPtV)

229 This whole law notion seems quaint and outdated for a nation that's taking foreign nationals hostage

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 09, 2013 11:17 AM (l5zzX)

230 I often wonder what websites the Republican members of Congress read. Given their average age, probably AOL

Posted by: brak at October 09, 2013 11:18 AM (M2qTM)

231 >>>And that made the value of my 2004 Corolla with 150,000 miles on it $4,000 dollars when I sold it and not the $1,000 it should have been. I made a bundle off that car. everyone knows the only way to get $3000 off the price of a car is for the government to hand the dealer $3000. you are what's known in the auto biz as a "home run".

Posted by: X at October 09, 2013 11:18 AM (KHo8t)

232 Values have changed. That's the problem. Remember when Bush was president, and for the first time in American history the NSA leaked documents to damage him?

My grandfather owned at least 300 rifles. The chances of him using them for nefarious purposes were zero. He recognized the great responsibility in owning guns.

My brother-in-law took me shooting once. He had a .45 M1911 he'd just bought. He put in the magazine, shot six times, and then pulled out the mag, leaving a live round in the chamber. I stood behind him as he fucked around until he realized that there was still a round in the chamber. He then ejected it, like, "I meant to do that."

He's an army veteran. I'm a civilian. He talks constantly about the need to have mass executions here. He also lied about his service, telling me he was a sapper and that he went on secret missions in Nicaragua. Utter fucking bullshit. He was in the maintenance pool in South Korea.

I honestly don't know what's in the minds of most cops and members of the armed forces. Our values have degraded so radically I don't know what would happen if King Putt gave the order to mow down all the "Teabaggers" who are going to descend on DC om the 13th.

Most would refuse, but how many would comply?

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 09, 2013 11:18 AM (81H5s)

233 Posted by: Chamber Pot Party at October 09, 2013 03:17 PM (pXRt2) Please tell me that's from the Onion, or similar parody/satire site.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:18 AM (/PCJa)

234 The lying ass is up.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 03:16 PM (uu42x)

He's talking AGAIN? FFS

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (4df7R)

235 231 hamsterdance.com? Funny anecdote: one of my friends once took a support call from Weird Al Yankovic, whose only problem was "My hamsters have stopped dancing." For some reason he couldn't get hamsterdance.com to load. --- I guess Harvey was under the weather.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (/Crba)

236 Honestly, the fact that the NPS goons are just obeying terrifies me. They would fire upon us.

Posted by: Lauren at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (ELdpj)

237 That little troll Yellin reminds me of someone. Can't for the life of me think of who.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (lVPtV)

238 removing the handles from water fountains located on trails

Bring mini-ViseGrips. They'll do the job

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (l5zzX)

239 Natan Sharansky was convicted of treason plus several other charges and spent nine years in the Soviet prison system. "Doing a Sharansky" is not something to be taken lightly.

Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (HjPtV)

240 As much as I'd like to make a tl;dr or movie review crack, I can't. Nice work Ace. Well done.

Posted by: J. Random Dude at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (72afg)

241

Well that was an excellent use of my time. Wow.

Well done. Thanks Ace.

Posted by: Juan de la Salsa at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (r7+X8)

242 I was actually quite sad watching that vid. It was almost as if the car had a spirit that refused to die. Imagine what fine car that would have made for some family. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 09, 2013 03:16 PM (DmNpO) Yeah, I had the same reaction.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (bCEmE)

243 240 The lying ass is up. Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 03:16 PM (uu42x) He's talking AGAIN? FFS --- I don't think he's figured out yet that him speechifying in front of the country now has negative returns.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:19 AM (/Crba)

244 The behavior of the NPS is no different than, say, the military during a Martial Law situation. If Park Rangers were National Guard troops, the media would be...

...no, never mind. They still wouldn't be up in arms.

President Obama has taken the first step in using the military against U.S. Citizens on a large scale.

As I'm writing this, I'm getting this nagging, tinfoil hat suspicion that prolonged government shutdown would be the perfect opportunity for a coup.

That sounded farfetched when I thought about writing it down...it doesn't so much now.

Posted by: SGT York at October 09, 2013 11:20 AM (FqBlL)

245 You guys have probably already been discussing this - sorry if it is a repeat. If I were running the RNC, I would be running a series of ads about shutdown theater targeted at all the red state senate dems up for reelection. The old couple thrown out of their house, the WWII memorial, many other examples....then point out that the Repub House voted to fund these and the Dem Senate including Senator X refused to have a vote. I'd be blanketing the airwaves.

Tell me they are doing this. Lie to me if necessary.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 09, 2013 11:20 AM (KjlbF)

246 I love my "mute" button.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 03:17 PM (lVPtV)

We are all mute buttons now. All ages, races, religions, we have all been pushed to be MUTE and let our dear Emperor Obama rule by fiat and decree.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 11:20 AM (kXoT0)

247 It's now being reported that the GOP has the "lowest" approval ever recorded in a poll (by the AP, iirc). No duh. Conservatives are frustrated and fed up with it. But that is not how the "consultants" will memo it to their power-hungry leaching bosses, is it?

Posted by: Czar Peter at October 09, 2013 11:20 AM (4LI4E)

248 They murdered a woman for turning around at a checkpoint.

They stopped a potential VBIED in the most target dense zone of the GWOT.

Posted by: DaveA at October 09, 2013 11:20 AM (DL2i+)

249 I might have to go look at kitten or something,my blood pressure is dangerously high.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:20 AM (9XBK2)

250

Try it now. Algernon?

Posted by: Richard Gere at October 09, 2013 11:21 AM (uu42x)

251 Long time lurker here. This was an amazing post. Thanks Ace.

Posted by: Timmay! at October 09, 2013 11:21 AM (ipirO)

252 {i]Funny anecdote: one of my friends once took a support call from Weird Al Yankovic, whose only problem was "My hamsters have stopped dancing."

For some reason he couldn't get hamsterdance.com to load.

LOfuckingL

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 09, 2013 11:21 AM (wtvvX)

253 >>> Ace, droppin some f'n knowledge. Bazinga! Don't have the time to read it. I'll have to skip the comments on the ONT and read this instead.

Posted by: fluffy at October 09, 2013 11:21 AM (0hXna)

254 Imagine what fine car that would have made for some family.

Which is why it had to die. Can't have families improving their own situation any way but a government check.

*spit*

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 09, 2013 11:21 AM (/kI1Q)

255 I don't think he's figured out yet that him speechifying in front of the country now has negative returns.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 03:19 PM (/Crba)

Nominating Yellen.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 11:21 AM (kXoT0)

256 As I pointed out on an earlier thread (ht fluffy for the heads-up!), the Association of National Park Rangers is holding their annual confab in St. Louis later this month. I've even suggested some topics for their agenda:

"Campsite Conservation With Your New M1 Abrams"
"Tourists/Terrorists: Letting Gaia Sort Them Out"
"Wadcutters or Hollow-Points: A Panel Discussion"
"Foreign Tourists: Hostages or POWs?"

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at October 09, 2013 11:22 AM (/lWM8)

257 Will this help with the blood pressure? Some cosplay pic of Supergirl?
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/sexy-supergirl-cosplay-01.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 11:22 AM (ObMtJ)

258 $634,320,919 could have gone a long way with these parks. Seriously, how the hell is a shitty designed site so freakin' expensive.

Posted by: RWC at October 09, 2013 11:22 AM (fWAjv)

259 Son goes everywhere with a multi-tool. Somehow, he got through TSA "security" with it in his backpack.

Take that, TSA goons. Oh, and he was getting the full pat-down in Seattle and a robe-wearing goat-fucker breezed through security. He glared at the TSA thug and said, "Noted."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:22 AM (lVPtV)

260 With the weather getting colder, I've noticed an influx of northern homeless in the past couple of weeks.

For many people, a minimum security Federal prison would be a significant lifestyle upgrade. Regular food, clean clothing, medical care, etc.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 09, 2013 11:22 AM (l5zzX)

261 Tell me they are doing this. Lie to me if necessary.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 09, 2013 03:20 PM (KjlbF)

They're running five separate commercials on it now in various local markets. Unfortunately not scheduled to run in your area until a couple of weeks.

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2013 11:23 AM (m2CN7)

262 28 It gets worse: try to build on your privately owned land where the DOI decided it might be a refuge for some potential rare species. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2013 02:43 PM (U292F) Nothing an accidental spill of a couple hundreds gallons of gasoline, followed by careless throwing your lit cigarette into it wouldn't fix. No rare species, no worries. Some hunters spotted a Jaguar out in the New Mexico desert - a Jaguar that made it clear up here from Central America. They reported it, and now the government wants to make that area a 'protected habitat' for a cat that happened to have wandered into the area. In the future, rather than reporting the existence of such creatures, they'll simply be killed and buried.

Posted by: blindside at October 09, 2013 11:23 AM (WzWmY)

263 Nominating Yellen.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 03:21 PM (kXoT0)

The stimulus must flow.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Guild Steersman at October 09, 2013 11:23 AM (RD7QR)

264 In the future, rather than reporting the existence of such creatures, they'll simply be killed and buried. --- Anyone else for some Spotted Owl Surprise?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:24 AM (/Crba)

265 btw: here's the Association of National Park Rangers website's page on the meeting:
http://anpr.org/rr36-2013.htm

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at October 09, 2013 11:24 AM (/lWM8)

266 So the thing about Yellowstone is that there are reasons other than tourism to have to enter the park.

Yellowstone is absolutely super-colossal in size, and it's also situated in the middle of some of the most rugged terrain in North America. Those mountains are not abundant in interstate highways.

Very frequently, for people living in the parts of the states surrounding and incorporating Yellowstone, THE only reasonable road route from A to B is driving through the park. Any Internet mapping engine will demonstrate this.

You can go around it, to be sure, with tremendous delay and inconvenience. And lots of extra money spent on fuel and wear and tear.

But then again, everything abutting Yellowstone is a red state. So to Obama and his crew, imposing those costs and annoyances on the locals is a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 09, 2013 11:24 AM (gqT4g)

267 A new record post length? Cliff's notes. The media sucks?

Posted by: John Smith at October 09, 2013 11:24 AM (wR+pz)

268 Nominating Yellen.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 03:21 PM (kXoT0)

The stimulus must flow.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Guild Steersman at October 09, 2013 03:23 PM (RD7QR)

And apparently, ugly old Dem women gotz to be in charge of every damn thing.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 11:24 AM (kXoT0)

269 Has Obama threatened to blot out the sun yet?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 09, 2013 11:24 AM (ZPrif)

270 261 I don't think he's figured out yet that him speechifying in front of the country now has negative returns.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 03:19 PM (/Crba)

Good. Let him keep flapping his gums.

Someone help me. Who does Yellen remind you of? It's driving me crazy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:24 AM (lVPtV)

271 In the future, rather than reporting the existence of such creatures, they'll simply be killed and buried. Moral Hazard is Law of Human Behavior. It's not just about loans and finance.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:25 AM (/PCJa)

272 And that made the value of my 2004 Corolla with 150,000 miles on it $4,000 dollars when I sold it and not the $1,000 it should have been. I made a bundle off that car. 2003 Lancer. 157,000 miles on it and a dent in the rear driver's side door I never got around to fixing. $4,700 at trade in and I had just gotten new tires three weeks before so the dealer threw in a set of new tires on the car I bought. I was pissed that I got the new tires and then was selling the car three weeks later (I mentioned to my dad that hey maybe it was time to look for a car in passing and he promptly spent the next three weeks finding me a car). I was pissed right up until I was driving in to work the morning that I was going to trade in the car and there was a huge accident right in front of me. I stood on the brakes and stopped about a foot and a half from the debris field. If I hadn't had new tires I would have been part of the accident. God watches over fools and drunks. Since I wasn't drunk at the time . . . .

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 11:25 AM (VtjlW)

273 271 btw: here's the Association of National Park Rangers website's page on the meeting: http://anpr.org/rr36-2013.htm Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at October 09, 2013 03:24 PM (/lWM

Not sure if you saw my reply to you earlier but.... Ranger Rendezvous XXXVI Oct. 27 - 31, 2013 ~ St. Louis, Missouri Hilton St. Louis at the Ballpark IF St. Louis makes it to the WS, the 26th, 27th and 28th are in St. Louis. Hmmmm.....this might be amusing....

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 09, 2013 11:25 AM (bCEmE)

274 the Association of National Park Rangers is holding their annual confab in St. Louis later this month.

I wish Jim Hoft was healthy, he could be all over that like that Breitbart.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 09, 2013 11:25 AM (/kI1Q)

275 I tell you what,it's a good thing no park ranger is likely to ask me to stop exercising my rights because I would end up very much regretting what I would do.

Posted by: steevy

10 - 15% of the Left, that willful, malicious part of the Left, hopes the administration's actions will push someone over the edge.

Obama himself has no concept of what he is doing, but some in the administration want an incident to justify a crackdown on the Right. The script has played out many times in the past in other countries.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (ooEwf)

276 Ace, the Media *does* know all of this. They just don't want to say so because their guy is in office. If the roles were reversed and this was a Republican refusing to meet/negotiate, you'd be darned tootin' we'd hear nothing but stories about how the NPS exists to serve people as a non-partisan bureaucracy.

Posted by: @JohnTant at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (eytER)

277 Yellen looks like a lesbian Roger Ebert

Posted by: brak at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (M2qTM)

278 Ugh, Yellen. Welp, that absolutely guarantees that we'll have high, perhaps runaway inflation in the future. It's now not a question of if but when. Plan accordingly.

Posted by: Not the KGB at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (0cMkb)

279

>>I honestly don't know what's in the minds of most cops and members of the armed forces. Our values have degraded so radically I don't know what would happen if King Putt gave the order to mow down all the "Teabaggers" who are going to descend on DC om the 13th.

Most would refuse, but how many would comply?

.I can think of only a few that I served with over 22 years that would comply with a "fire on that crowd" order. A couple of them would do it without a seconds hesitation, but the vast majority would not IMO.

Posted by: Registered Voter at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (AHX9J)

280 Someone help me. Who does Yellen remind you of? It's driving me crazy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 03:24 PM (lVPtV)

Dolores Umbridge?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (4df7R)

281 Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2013 03:19 PM (HjPtV) Yes, he sat down in the snow after he was given permission to go to Israel because they took away his book of psalms. The final indignity they tried to place on him he rejected. The author of the post at "Legal Insurrection: is Jewish himself and aware of the history.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (a4Omg)

282 I always thought of the NPS as much cooler people than the IRS. Clearly if you work for the IRS (unless you're seasonal, processing returns in early April to make a little extra cash) - if you are full-time IRS, you have to be a jerk. But a park ranger! I always kinda envied that job, the great outdoors, secretly laughing at campers who were afraid of spiders and stuff, but always polite and helpful. So I was really angry about the IRS scandal, outraged, yes, but completely shocked? Not totally. Cube-monkeys with deadened souls, after years of taking peoples' money for no good reason. Yeah, they could do that kind of thing. But this? So far, not a *single* report of a park ranger behaving as a human, as a motherfucking AMERICAN, and saying "no" to their superiors? This shocks me. And it really scares me. I'm ready to Sharansky, I just don't see how.

Posted by: stutterk at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (z6eaQ)

283 >>>>Will this help with the blood pressure? Some cosplay pic of Supergirl?>>>>

She's made of rubber!

I don't want to get banned, so I won't post a link. Go to Liveleak and watch the X-rated cartoon all these Disney animators made for their own amusement in the late twenties. Unbelievable.

It's called "Eveready Harton."

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (81H5s)

284 Progressives love to crow that the Nuremberg Trials proved "I was just following orders" is NO defense to illegal acts. If there is no specific federal legislation mandating the closing of national parks and monuments to visitors whenever Park Rangers aren't present, then the FORCED removal of visitors is illegal. Every Park Service bureaucrat or ranger who passed along the White House's orders to expell visitors and every Park Ranger who enforced it, should be fired and "barracaded" from ever working in the federal government again.

Posted by: So Cal Jim at October 09, 2013 11:26 AM (NG7MG)

285 283 Yellen looks like a lesbian Roger Ebert

Posted by: brak at October 09, 2013 03:26 PM (M2qTM)

ding ding ding You are right!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:27 AM (lVPtV)

286 I can think of only a few that I served with over 22 years that would comply with a "fire on that crowd" order. A couple of them would do it without a seconds hesitation, but the vast majority would not IMO. --- They ah wommen and chillen in dat crowd! All dey want is some food for God's sake!

Posted by: Ben Richards, supposed Butcher Of Bakersfield at October 09, 2013 11:27 AM (/Crba)

287 2985 words, not including the title or ace's sign off. Let's call it a 3,000 word post. Nice work ace.

Posted by: John Smith at October 09, 2013 11:28 AM (wR+pz)

288 Oops! "...Park Service bureaucrat or ranger..."

Posted by: So Cal Jim at October 09, 2013 11:28 AM (NG7MG)

289
They took every single one of those used cars which could've been used by the young or working poor and destroyed the engines by pouring sodium silicate into the gas tank and ran the engine until it was irrevocably ruined.

Why?

Because fuck you.

They could have donated many of those vehicles to charity....at zero additional cost to the govt. I still remember watching a youtube video of people destroying late model vehicles in perfect condition....for no other reason than Obumbles wanted to help GM sell more cars. Fuck charity. Fuck the working poor. Fuck you, America.

This govt does not represent the people, and they've made it crystal clear that they do not consider themselves public servants.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 09, 2013 11:28 AM (0IhFx)

290 When does this Yellowstone Movie come out?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 11:29 AM (uu42x)

291 "Obama himself has no concept of what he is doing" I completely disagree. Obama is a virulent and anti American as his "friend from the neighborhood".

Posted by: Lauren at October 09, 2013 11:29 AM (ELdpj)

292 227 5 Are there any stories out there about NPS officials disregarding the orders to bring the pain? It really sounds like they are all falling in line to serve dear leader. People should remember these people's actions when/if this is all over. Posted by: Havedash at October 09, 2013 02:37 PM (F0WNa) I've never fucking trusted the NPS, and now I trust them less. Posted by: blindside at October 09, 2013 03:16 PM (WzWmY) ---------------------- There actually are NPS rangers who are looking the other way. They go out and put up the Barrycades. People remove them while the ranger takes a smoke break. Maybe a ranger tells people to stack the fences neatly and well off the road. Maybe. I've heard rumors. I mean, if I KNEW this, I wouldn't feel free to say where and when or anything.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 09, 2013 11:29 AM (dfYL9)

293 @293 I guess this means ace can qualify to write at the NYer?

Posted by: John Smith at October 09, 2013 11:30 AM (wR+pz)

294 297 Yes,lazy and stupid he may be but he wants our destruction.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:30 AM (9XBK2)

295 And just remember ein Volk, because they literally trashed those cars in Cash for Clunkers, none were salvaged for parts or properly recycled. It added to the landfills with plastics, oil, and the chemicals used to kill the engines.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 11:30 AM (ObMtJ)

296 "Scrupulously avoid damaging the interests of the beneficial owner...." However, you forget that convincing the public to vote democrat is totally in the best interests of the public. When I went of college in the early 80s the biggest libs on campus were in the forestry programs and wanting to work for NPS/Forest Service. Most of them were expecting to spend several years in unpaid intern like status before getting a job. I think that process serves to weed out the politically incorrect.

Posted by: GeneTheBigLib at October 09, 2013 11:31 AM (sWz+2)

297 I was looking for the quote and can't find it. I'm not even sure where the article was sourced. But it quoted the Park Rangers at Yellowstone from preventing the visitors from "recreating". And, I thought, "are you freakin' kidding me?"

Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 09, 2013 11:31 AM (encrR)

298

Good explanation, Ace. I would use this, the trustee concept to argue with my lefty friends, if they were talking about this stuff, which they aren't.

Why?

You know why. Instead, they are are extolling the virtues of signing up (and getting user names) for the exchanges. Not getting actual insurance of course, but getting through after several tries, and establishing a login with password? Yeppers! You betcha. Praise Obama.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 09, 2013 11:31 AM (TOk1P)

299

But this? So far, not a *single* report of a park ranger behaving as a human, as a motherfucking AMERICAN, and saying "no" to their superiors? This shocks me. And it really scares me.

On yesterday's Yellowstone thread I asked this:

"what exactly would the NPS have done if one of those tourists had said, "Bugger this," and left the building? Would they have shot him/her? Would they have really raised their gun or their taser and SHOT an innocent person -- probably in the back, mind you -- for having the gall to leave a building to go look at a geological phenomenon on public land in a free country?

I think all these LEOs in the gubmint -- not just NPS -- need to ask themselves that question and then really THINK about what their answer says about them."

With all that's happened in just the last few days, I don't have much faith in our alleged keepers of the peace.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:31 AM (4df7R)

300 Honestly, the fact that the NPS goons are just obeying terrifies me. They would fire upon us. Posted by: Lauren at October 09, 2013 03:19 PM (ELdpj) It says in the Weekly Standard piece that Ace linked: This is how deep the politicization of Barack ObamaÂ’s administration goes. The Park Service falls under the Department of the Interior, and its director is a political appointee. Historically, the directorship has been nonpartisan and the service has functioned as a civil, not a political, unit. Before the current director, Jonathan Jarvis, was nominated by President Obama, heÂ’d spent 30 years as a civil servant. But he has taken to his political duties with all the fervor of a third-tier hack from the DNC, marrying the disinterested contempt of a meter maid with the zeal of an ambitious party apparatchik.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 09, 2013 11:32 AM (IXrOn)

301 Dolores Umbridge? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 09, 2013 03:26 PM (4df7R) YES! Also I am both proud and horrified that the babylawyertalk made you think of me immediately.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 11:32 AM (VtjlW)

302 "Scrupulously avoid damaging the interests of the beneficial owner...."
However, you forget that convincing the public to vote Democrat is totally in the best interests of the public.
When I went of college in the early 80s the biggest libs on campus were in the forestry programs and wanting to work for NPS/Forest Service. Most of them were expecting to spend several years in unpaid intern like status before getting a job. I think that process serves to weed out the politically incorrect.

Posted by: GeneTheLib at October 09, 2013 11:32 AM (sWz+2)

303 ", but getting through after several tries, and establishing a login with password? Yeppers! You betcha. Praise Obama." Have they been able to actually use that login info to access the system, because after 10 days, I still can't.

Posted by: Lauren at October 09, 2013 11:32 AM (ELdpj)

304 Ace, This is one if the best you've written. I read entire thing now, I'll find something else more important to read later her, yesterday when I was having my usual late lunch, I saw something here I wanted to read, but it was long & I was almost done. I planned to read last night, nut I didn't get home until almost 11 pm. I started reading ONT & then decided I wanted a glass of wine, which I spilled & broke glass while pouring. I had mess to clean up & decided I had better do laundry because I didn't want my clothes hamper to smell like wine. Carol

Posted by: CarolT. at October 09, 2013 11:33 AM (z4WKX)

305 Posted by: Tami at October 09, 2013 03:25 PM (bCEmE)

Oops! Yeah, I saw that, Tami. But then, because of the Shutdown, I was unable to post about it. Damn these Republican splodeydopes!

Actually, I was busy tweeting about that meeting and didn't see your comment until after. Anyway, belated thanks.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at October 09, 2013 11:33 AM (/lWM8)

306 "I still remember watching a youtube video of people destroying late model vehicles in perfect condition....for no other reason than Obumbles wanted to help GM sell more cars. Fuck charity. Fuck the working poor. Fuck you, America."

Not to mention the large number of GM and Chrysler dealerships, many of them quite profitable, that lost their franchise after Obama bailout.

Posted by: mrp at October 09, 2013 11:33 AM (HjPtV)

307 SC Vet trying to clean up the National Mall on his own dime in preparation for the Million Vet March on Sunday is told to stop by the NPS Brown Shirts:

http://tinyurl.com/pn3xm4b

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:33 AM (lVPtV)

308 Property rights is a basic division between left and right. The left cannot believe in property rights (despite the express statement in the constitution about not being deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law) and believe in their from each according to their ability, to each according to their need philosophy. "Justice" Ruth Buzzard Ginsberg several months ago criticized the constitution on just this point when she was advising the Egyptians on how to draft their constitution. She wanted the constitution drafted in such a way that the state had the duty to provide everyone with a certain amount of property which cannot be done without depriving someone else of their property.

So I am not in the least surprised that the media left completely ignores property rights.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 09, 2013 11:33 AM (XUKZU)

309 I read somewhere that 404 care punted all the logins and passwords.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 11:33 AM (uu42x)

310 I guess this means ace can qualify to write at the NYer?

I don't think Ace has a brace of Ocicats though. That's a job requirement

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 09, 2013 11:34 AM (l5zzX)

311
When does this Yellowstone Movie come out?

It came out years and years ago. Stalag 17 was the title, I think.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 09, 2013 11:35 AM (0IhFx)

312 313 SC Vet trying to clean up the National Mall on his own dime in preparation for the Million Vet March on Sunday is told to stop by the NPS Brown Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/pn3xm4b --- But of course. Doing that takes away work that Purple People Beaters can not do and get paid for.

Posted by: Ben Richards, supposed Butcher Of Bakersfield at October 09, 2013 11:35 AM (/Crba)

313 When does this Yellowstone Movie come out? Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 03:29 PM (uu42x) Fuck that. When does Yellowstone explode? *waves huge honking Teams Caldera & SMOD sign*

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 11:35 AM (VtjlW)

314 Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers 3m

Dem Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Says Â“Martial LawÂ” Is Needed To Reopen The GovernmentÂ… http://shar.es/Efztc

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 11:36 AM (8sCoq)

315 Also I am both proud and horrified that the babylawyertalk made you think of me immediately.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 03:32 PM (VtjlW)

I couldn't help it! I just pictured baby!AtC being carried around by someone in a severely stern nanny outfit, waving around a diamond-encrusted rattle and barking orders.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:36 AM (4df7R)

316 I can't even imagine how much different our political landscape would be if we truly had a "fair' media. I don't mean conservative, just down the middle.

Decades ago, we knew the media was liberal, but they had a veneer of trying to appear fair. Now it's in your face partisanship where they don't even pretend anymore.

Posted by: McAdams at October 09, 2013 11:36 AM (WHca6)

317 Top story in the sidebar is going to warrant a flaming skul,and the start of impeachment proceedings.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:36 AM (9XBK2)

318 GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. Â— Police have arrested an 84-year-old man accused of pointing a gun at anti-President Barack Obama protestors. Kill me a cracka!

Posted by: RWC at October 09, 2013 11:36 AM (fWAjv)

319 I think this is appropriate. Even if it is old, it's more true today then when it was filmed. So..... http://tinyurl.com/2dm4lan

Posted by: John Smith at October 09, 2013 11:36 AM (wR+pz)

320 I don't think Ace has a brace of Ocicats though.

He has a Gogidog, which is an acceptable replacement. (And if you understand why, you're a long-time conservative blog reader).

Posted by: Ian S. at October 09, 2013 11:36 AM (B/VB5)

321 yeah if the Jellystone supervolcano goes off, it won't be a local story

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 11:37 AM (8sCoq)

322 320 Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers 3m Dem Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Says Â“Martial LawÂ” Is Needed To Reopen The GovernmentÂ… http://shar.es/Efztc --- Looks like the Congressional Black Communists are letting the truth slip out again, much like when Maxine Watters told oil companies she wanted to nationalize them.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:37 AM (/Crba)

323 Someone help me. Who does Yellen remind you of? It's driving me crazy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 03:24 PM (lVPtV)

Harry Potter's psycho teacher?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 09, 2013 11:37 AM (U292F)

324 "313 SC Vet trying to clean up the National Mall on his own dime in preparation for the Million Vet March on Sunday is told to stop by the NPS Brown Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/pn3xm4b" I can't fucking take it. Is this America? No. No it is not. The slow march into the fundamental transformation of our country just sped up exponentially.

Posted by: Lauren at October 09, 2013 11:37 AM (ELdpj)

325 Who knew the NPS would be Obama's Brown Shirts?

Maybe a good hint was when Obama called for a civilian force as well funded as the military.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at October 09, 2013 11:37 AM (Pr6hk)

326 Someone help me. Who does Yellen remind you of? It's driving me crazy. Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 03:24 PM (lVPtV) Georges Clemenceau What he did for Germany, Yellen will do for usÂ…

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 09, 2013 11:38 AM (XvHmy)

327 And just remember ein Volk, because they literally trashed those cars in Cash for Clunkers, none were salvaged for parts or properly recycled. It added to the landfills with plastics, oil, and the chemicals used to kill the engines. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 03:30 PM (ObMtJ) The Broken Windows Fallacy as government policy. It was absolutely revolting, but they got away with it. The bastards should have been shut down after F&F and the failure to do that probably doomed us - corruption has a momentum all its own, and that momentum is so very high right now...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 09, 2013 11:38 AM (qyfb5)

328 320 Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers 3m

Dem Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Says Â“Martial LawÂ” Is Needed To Reopen The GovernmentÂ… http://shar.es/Efztc

Fuck that ugly, evil bitch. I guarandamntee you she'd gladly order Brown Shirts to fire on unarmed, law abiding citizens.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:38 AM (lVPtV)

329 that's longer than one of Ace's film reviews. Holy wall of nicely formatted text batman!

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at October 09, 2013 11:38 AM (HEa5q)

330 Dem Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Says Â“Martial LawÂ” Is Needed To Reopen The GovernmentÂ… http://shar.es/Efztc

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 03:36 PM (8sCoq)

From the mouths of Medusa-headed imbeciles...

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:38 AM (4df7R)

331 324 GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. Â— Police have arrested an 84-year-old man accused of pointing a gun at anti-President Barack Obama protestors. Kill me a cracka! --- I'm gonna kill me every whitey I see till whitey he don't bother me... Gonna get me a shotgun and kill all the whities I see!

Posted by: Aldon Smith at October 09, 2013 11:38 AM (/Crba)

332 I'll add my voice to those saying this is an excellent piece, Ace. Should go in the "Greatest Hits" section, if that was ever updated.

Posted by: Null at October 09, 2013 11:38 AM (xjpRj)

333 GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. Â— Police have arrested an 84-year-old man accused of pointing a gun at anti-President Barack Obama protestors. Kill me a cracka! Posted by: RWC at October 09, 2013 03:36 PM (fWAjv) MSNBC chyron: GUN DRAWN AT ANTI-OBAMA RALLY

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 11:38 AM (VtjlW)

334 Property rights is a basic division between left and right. The left cannot believe in property rights (despite the express statement in the constitution about not being deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law) and believe in their from each according to their ability, to each according to their need philosophy. "Justice" Ruth Buzzard Ginsberg several months ago criticized the constitution on just this point when she was advising the Egyptians on how to draft their constitution. She wanted the constitution drafted in such a way that the state had the duty to provide everyone with a certain amount of property which cannot be done without depriving someone else of their property. So I am not in the least surprised that the media left completely ignores property rights. Posted by: WalrusRex at October 09, 2013 03:33 PM (XUKZU) Ginsberg thinks we should replace our Constitution with something like South Africa's

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 09, 2013 11:38 AM (XvHmy)

335 Some of the NPS employees are at least leaking their orders to the press. The one who relayed that she'd been told to make it as difficult as possible. I reckon some others have been "home sick", or are just looking the other way when hikers come along. Estes / RMNP is an example... the nice lady at the roadside booth lives around there and there are others. they are seeing how the floods and snostorms are fucking over their neighbours' livelihoods even without all this. It's the DC drones and certain other people posted to special places, like Rushmore, who are the hacks.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 09, 2013 11:39 AM (PpENV)

336 Dem Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Says Â“Martial LawÂ” Is Needed To Reopen The GovernmentÂ… http://shar.es/Efztc

Posted by: Jones in CO

What ... Um ... the fuuuuck?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at October 09, 2013 11:39 AM (ooEwf)

337 152 Bravo.

I am terrified by the fact that I am to the point that I do not consider those members of the NPS who are performing these duties to be my fellow citizens. No. You are not. You are the functionaries of a tyrant and that you claim you are acting on behalf o my country is repugnant.

The split is here. The question is only when the civil war goes fully hot.
=============
Comment I put on the FB:

"We are not subjects; they are not serving the Crown."

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 09, 2013 11:39 AM (VjL9S)

338 You're best post evah!!! Sad times.....

Posted by: smitorsky at October 09, 2013 11:39 AM (wsnKp)

339 thanks everyone.

By the way, since I wrote a good piece for the first time in 2-3 weeks, I guess this is a good time to say: I'm going on vacation next week. I haven't been off (except for federal holidays) since Christmas/New Years.

I never feel right saying that unless I've done something of value.

Well I did. so now:

VACATION, BEEOTCHES!

WHOO-HOO!!!!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 11:39 AM (/IWYB)

340 Ginsberg thinks we should replace our Constitution with something like South Africa's --- I hope Ginsburg lasts until Obama's successor is sworn in.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:40 AM (/Crba)

341 So this new potential "deal?" Is it a cave?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at October 09, 2013 11:40 AM (9+ccr)

342 Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers 3m

Dem Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Says Â“Martial LawÂ” Is Needed To Reopen The GovernmentÂ… http://shar.es/Efztc

omg- dredging new depths of stewpid

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 11:40 AM (8sCoq)

343 Ace: (states his objection), NPS: "Ace?", Ace: "Yes sir?", NPS: "That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought out objection.", Ace: "Thank you, your Honor.", NPS: "Overruled!"

http://www.hark.com/clips/shpvyvffdb-overruled

Obama is such a SCOAMF

Posted by: Fuck the Security Guards at October 09, 2013 11:40 AM (NGBna)

344 o/t wth? CRANSTON, R.I. - Terence McAuliffe, the former chairman of the national Democratic Party, was one of hundreds of people who invested in variable annuities that used terminally ill patients as the annuitants. McAuliffe and others became owners of the investment instruments through Cranston estate planner Joseph Caramadre. Caramadre pleaded guilty to stealing the identities of terminally ill patients and using that information to falsely apply for annuities and bonds with death puts. Prosecutors said Caramadre cost insurance companies between $37 million and $48 million from the scheme. http://www.turnto10.com/story/23644340/insurance-companies-file-suit-against-caramadre

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 09, 2013 11:40 AM (IXrOn)

345 Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB) Ooooh. Can I have the keys?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:40 AM (/PCJa)

346
VACATION, BEEOTCHES!

WHOO-HOO!!!!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB)

Have fun. Just leave the liquor cabinet unlocked.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:40 AM (lVPtV)

347 345 Heading for Thailand,eh ace?Enjoy.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:41 AM (9XBK2)

348 Is Sheila Jackson Lee busily waving the US flag we planted on Mars to rally her zombie troops?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 11:41 AM (ObMtJ)

349 No doubt there will be some outrage connected with the Million Vet March. NPS officials with guns to greet them? Tanks?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 11:41 AM (a4Omg)

350 Fuck that ugly, evil bitch. I guarandamntee you she'd gladly order Brown Shirts to fire on unarmed, law abiding citizens.

To be fair...she'd only order the murder of the white ones.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 09, 2013 11:41 AM (/kI1Q)

351 Ace, you've earned the rest, just be careful about doing any "recreating".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 09, 2013 11:41 AM (DmNpO)

352 Can you be Governor from the big house?

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at October 09, 2013 11:41 AM (uu42x)

353 Dem Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Says Â“Martial LawÂ” Is Needed To Reopen The GovernmentÂ… http://shar.es/Efztc [Reviews list of available responses] Yep. Those would all get me banned.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:41 AM (/PCJa)

354 They might not let ace back into the country.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:41 AM (9XBK2)

355

You know ace, this is one of those times where I wish you had a "share" button so I could post this to facebook.

You might want to look into that

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (t06LC)

356 Another point on property. Obama compared the failure of Zerocare to glitches that might occur when Apple rolls out a new product. Among the things he fails to realize is that Apple is putting its property at risk in the hope of earning a profit. If the product is a complete embarrassing failure (like Zerocare), Apple itself may not survive and its shareholders may take it in the shorts. The only effect from the failure of Zerocare will be that the Donks demand more of your property to make it work. Zero risks nothing and demands everything while Apple risks everything and demands only a fair price (definition of fair price to be determined by the consumer) for its product.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (XUKZU)

357 Our gardeners are telling us we can't look at our own lawns because we chose not to use their service for a while.

Posted by: non-essential commenter at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (VwxMb)

358 Top story in the sidebar is going to warrant a flaming skul,and the start of impeachment proceedings. In a just & fair world, it would...

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (NKBxV)

359 350 o/t wth? CRANSTON, R.I. - Terence McAuliffe, the former chairman of the national Democratic Party, was one of hundreds of people who invested in variable annuities that used terminally ill patients as the annuitants. McAuliffe and others became owners of the investment instruments through Cranston estate planner Joseph Caramadre. Caramadre pleaded guilty to stealing the identities of terminally ill patients and using that information to falsely apply for annuities and bonds with death puts. Prosecutors said Caramadre cost insurance companies between $37 million and $48 million from the scheme. http://www.turnto10.com/story/23644340/insurance-companies-file-suit-against-caramadre --- Looks like Ken Cuccinelli may be saved by the October Surprise.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (/Crba)

360 I couldn't help it! I just pictured baby!AtC being carried around by someone in a severely stern nanny outfit, waving around a diamond-encrusted rattle and barking orders. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 09, 2013 03:36 PM (4df7R) What's even more hilarious is that you have met me and can thus attest that, in person, I am the world's least intimidating human being.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (VtjlW)

361 Ace, I hear Yellowstone is lovely this time of year.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (lVPtV)

362 Ace, I've criticized you in the past for verbosity, but this post is superior. IMO, it's your best work in several years. Thanks you for sharing your insights - and I think you're spot-on.

Posted by: Jazz at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (roO4n)

363

VACATION, BEEOTCHES!

WHOO-HOO!!!!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB)

LUCKY.

I hope you're going somewhere/doing something fun! And get lots of rest.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (4df7R)

364 Uh oh Ace on vacation. Hobo population hardest hit.

You deserve a good destressor.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (ObMtJ)

365 Bad news, Ace was planning on going hiking in a national park on vacation...

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (t06LC)

366 Vacation? Shit who's going to be in charge, Gabe? The morons play without supervision? This might not go so well.

Posted by: John Smith at October 09, 2013 11:42 AM (wR+pz)

367 You know ace, this is one of those times where I wish you had a "share" button so I could post this to facebook. Dude, we don't get format buttons. You think we could get the Facebook API to work?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:43 AM (/PCJa)

368 How about some governors ordering the arrest of park rangers for illegally detaining innocent citizens? I would argue that the rangers are acting well outside any reasonable interpretation of their authority as federal officials, and so it would be a state offense under state jurisdiction. Worth a try.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at October 09, 2013 11:43 AM (29vnO)

369 Shit will probably really hit the fan while ace is on vacation.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:43 AM (9XBK2)

370
VACATION, BEEOTCHES!

WHOO-HOO!!!!

Thanks Ace. Thanks a lot. You just spooked all the hobos.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 09, 2013 11:43 AM (0IhFx)

371 356 Fuck that ugly, evil bitch. I guarandamntee you she'd gladly order Brown Shirts to fire on unarmed, law abiding citizens. To be fair...she'd only order the murder of the white ones. --- This is the same woman who has nicknamed a staffer "You Stupid Motherfucker". I'm not sure her IQ is enough for her to tie her shoe without drooling all over herself first.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:43 AM (/Crba)

372 Wonder when Obama's gonna agitate enough to get his own Kent State moment?

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at October 09, 2013 11:43 AM (/lWM8)

373 (A libertarian gets out a coin and flips it.)

Heh. I feel like my current opinion of Libertarians or Libertarianism is also decided by a coin toss.

Posted by: Shoot Me at October 09, 2013 11:43 AM (qiXMt)

374 Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB) Very glad to hear you're taking a break, Ace. Of course I will blame you if the country collapses into complete chaos because you weren't the watchman manning the ramparts. J/K. Don't ban me. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 11:43 AM (a4Omg)

375 I must add again at this point that at least one California county (El Dorado) has stripped NPS of the traditional right to enforce state and local law as well as park policy due to abuses by NPS personnel. Just before the shutdown, a park visitor in Southern California reported an oblique death threat delivered by an NPS Ranger at a rest area (the Ranger was also trying to enforce state law in a grossly incorrect manner). This situation is *already* out of control.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 09, 2013 11:44 AM (qyfb5)

376 371 Uh oh Ace on vacation. Hobo population hardest hit. You deserve a good destressor. --- I hear the hobo hunting grounds are well-stocked in San Francisco.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 11:44 AM (/Crba)

377 VACATION, BEEOTCHES! WHOO-HOO!!!! Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB) sonofa..[[/i] RUNNNNNNNN !!!!!!

Posted by: The Toaster and The Chicken at October 09, 2013 11:44 AM (fWAjv)

378 345 thanks everyone.

By the way, since I wrote a good piece for the first time in 2-3 weeks, I guess this is a good time to say: I'm going on vacation next week. I haven't been off (except for federal holidays) since Christmas/New Years.

I never feel right saying that unless I've done something of value.

Well I did. so now:

VACATION, BEEOTCHES!

WHOO-HOO!!!!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB)

And hobos everywhere tremble...

Posted by: Barack Obama, Guild Steersman at October 09, 2013 11:44 AM (RD7QR)

379 osted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 03:42 PM (t06LC) Well, he'll just have to bring an extra water bottle.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 11:44 AM (a4Omg)

380 Well I did. so now: VACATION, BEEOTCHES! WHOO-HOO!!!! Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB) ace, I mean this from the very depths of my soul shaped void. May your vacation be filled with pancakes.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 11:44 AM (VtjlW)

381 4 The problem is that the media makes these sorts of decisions out of nearly perfect ignorance, but, having a Corporate Mission of presenting itself as Expert and Informed on every issue, cannot admit that it is simply groping based upon its ideology, and dresses up its partisan/ideological guesses as "expertise."

And, it's hard to explain to my mother, who watches those MSM news channels, that they choose what they are going to cover, and they choose how to say it/tone, and they choose what to conveniently leave out. She doesn't get that she is getting half the news, with a biased filter.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 09, 2013 02:36 PM (IXrOn)

tell me about it, I am up against this everyday.

Posted by: Shoey at October 09, 2013 11:44 AM (jdOk/)

382

@374

Well, my italicize used to work. I'm not sure what happened. Made it where I do the @ instead of copying and pasting because its too confusing

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 11:44 AM (t06LC)

383 Ace, maybe your best post ever.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 09, 2013 11:45 AM (x4x3r)

384

309 -

Lauren, I think the answer is no, they haven't been able to get beyond setting up login, but honestly, at some point I just stop listening.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 09, 2013 11:45 AM (TOk1P)

385 Manhunt for lost Ewok as nation defaults on debt. Trail of dead hobos leads to Yellowstone.

Posted by: Fox News headline at October 09, 2013 11:45 AM (wR+pz)

386 What's even more hilarious is that you have met me and can thus attest that, in person, I am the world's least intimidating human being.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 03:42 PM (VtjlW)

Maybe not in stature, but in reputation you are! ^_^ I mentioned on the ONT the other night that when we bumped into each other the morning after the MoMee I was all, "OMG OMG OMG she remembers me? OMG OMG she remembers my name? OMG OMG OMG!!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:45 AM (4df7R)

387 Yes, Ace. I didn't say earlier, but others are thanking you and I should too. Excellent post; best I've seen from you in years.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at October 09, 2013 11:45 AM (/lWM8)

388 The logic is simple if you are not a right-winger.

Obama is the LightWorker. Therefore all light belongs to him. So when you are looking at Mt Rushmore, you are using OBAMA's photons. Obama has every right to deny you the use of his photons if you are not doing His will.

Posted by: The Media at October 09, 2013 11:46 AM (1Rgee)

389 hey might not let ace back into the country.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 03:41 PM (9XBK2)

Ace uses his super-secret alias 'Richardo Tempesto' when exiting the U.S.

Posted by: Liberty Lover at October 09, 2013 11:46 AM (encrR)

390 Have fun ace.
You deserve the time off.

You taking that cute little toaster with you?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2013 11:46 AM (xdC/M)

391 When Dem Sheila Jackson Lee pines for martial law, she had best be careful. During an emergency, fat, lazy, and weapons grade stupid is not a useful survival set.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 11:46 AM (kXoT0)

392 140 >It's almost like Barry's *trying* to get impeached or force a Constitutional crisis or something. I mean-- the optics are so bad, he has to know that he's going too far, right? That is exactly what he is trying to do. Then, the poor beset-upon President who is only trying to do what is right for 'the people' can have those who disagree with him in Congress and their supporters 'arrested' for trying to unconstitutionaly violate his powers and therefore committing treason. Did you folks forget who JEF supported in Nicaragua when the Congress there had their President removed from office for violating their Constitution? He WANTS this so he can destroy his enemies and shred what is left of limits on his power. This 'man' does not view us as fellow citizens with a different view - he views us as enemies of the state he wishes to create. He views us as greater threats than ACTUAL foreign threats.

Posted by: blindside at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (WzWmY)

393 Nobody puts a gun to your head and mandates you buy a buggy iPhone either.

In fact, owning a phone of any sort is OPTIONAL.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (l5zzX)

394 Bad news, Ace was planning on going hiking in a national park on vacation...

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 03:42 PM (t06LC)

Probably not a good idea for an ewok as furry as ace to go hiking anywhere he might be mistaken for a bear. Liable to get himself shot, stuffed and mounted on some Canuck's wall.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (4df7R)

395 GWINNETT COUNTY, Ga. Â— Police have arrested an 84-year-old man accused of pointing a gun at anti-President Barack Obama protestors.

***

I just listened to the3 radio news. they had a story about that 89 year old guy who was busted with 214 pounds of cocaine. They went out of their way to mention that he was a WWII vet. You know, like those vandals at the Monument.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (XUKZU)

396 398 When Dem Sheila Jackson Lee pines for martial law, she had best be careful. During an emergency, fat, lazy, and weapons grade stupid is not a useful survival set.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 03:46 PM (kXoT0)

Racccisssssssstttttt!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (lVPtV)

397

Ace is going on vacation? Where?

I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: A. Weener at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (TOk1P)

398 Vacations are no longer allowed. Shutdown, you see. Try not to get detained by the NPS

Posted by: brak at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (NaTky)

399 Just picturing wherever ace goes they'll have the Wally World Moose set up. Sorry ace, such and such is closed. Moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: RWC at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (fWAjv)

400 So re: Sheila Jackson Lee, and just for clarification. If they're threatening to use force on me, I *don't* get to threaten to use force back. Correct?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (/PCJa)

401 Ace is on vaca.

Once upon a time, I'd have been worried. Not since Marco's amnesty push.

Posted by: Marco Rubio's trash at October 09, 2013 11:47 AM (VwxMb)

402 You taking that cute little toaster with you?

Don't come back here if you're going to see that whore.

Posted by: eleven at October 09, 2013 11:48 AM (KXm42)

403 Will this help with the blood pressure? Some cosplay pic of Supergirl? Honestly, I'd be happier with Captain America kicking Obama in the nuts.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at October 09, 2013 11:48 AM (naUcP)

404 The NPS is going to remove one valve handle too many and then look out!

The doomsday caldera is going to swell up like Obama's sunken chest after a two putt.

Posted by: Fritz at October 09, 2013 11:48 AM (x2W/k)

405 VACATION, BEEOTCHES!

WHOO-HOO!!!!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB)

***

Be safe. Wear protection and clean underwear.
Pro tip; BJ's has excellent top shelf booze at bargain prices.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 09, 2013 11:48 AM (wmU4G)

406

Postworthy. The IRS and the Spite House DID share information. On Drudge now. When are the Articles of Impeachment going to be drawn up? This needs to happen or we are no longer a country of laws.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 09, 2013 11:48 AM (32Ze2)

407 I actually do wonder what will happen if a NPS goon tells a bunch of hikers to halt and they tell him, "fuck you and read this printout from Ace". Slashed tyres at 10 000 feet around 3 PM in October with no way down the mountain? NPS saying gosh we didn't see who did it? Bandit government ftw!

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 09, 2013 11:48 AM (PpENV)

408 You're going to love Costa Rica! Ewok friendly. http://tinyurl.com/6o3fqfl

Posted by: The Travel Agent at October 09, 2013 11:49 AM (wR+pz)

409 There actually are NPS rangers who are looking the other way. They go out and put up the Barrycades. People remove them while the ranger takes a smoke break. Maybe a ranger tells people to stack the fences neatly and well off the road. Maybe. I've heard rumors. I mean, if I KNEW this, I wouldn't feel free to say where and when or anything. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 09, 2013 03:29 PM (dfYL9) Like the LEOs who won't enforce the gun laws, these mythical NPS Rangers had better figure out a way PDQ to let us know who they are.

Posted by: blindside at October 09, 2013 11:49 AM (WzWmY)

410 I agree that "the true solution is to make every civil servant with a gun just as terrified of violating civil rights as we are terrified of them 'Just following orders.'"

What bothers me is that I haven't seen any blog-lawyers doing the legal analysis to show exactly how this is legal or (I'm pretty sure) illegal. Where are the Volokhs? I took a quick look a couple of days ago and saw nothing. How about Althouse? Legal Insurrection? We need some authoritative legal experts who can say, loudly, exactly what statutes the NPS is violating, what the penalties are, whether these penalties are cumulative, who has standing to sue, and (here's the part that worries me) what the statutes of limitation are on each count.

At that point, we can loudly promise that when Constitutional government is restored in 3 years and 3 months - sooner, if Obama continues or accelerates his obvious slide into tyranny and insanity and gets impeached - these laws will be enforced, and the assholes who have violated them will be identified, fired, deprived of pensions, and (statute of limitation permitting) fined or jailed, with possible exceptions for those who are clever enough to keep incriminating records and nimble enough to be the first to turn state's witness. I certainly hope that any penalties won by (e.g.) busloads of foreign tourists will be taken out of the salaries and pensions of the criminals, rather than tax dollars.

We need to make sure that the bastards are thinking about this every morning when they're deciding whether they want to spend the day shoving great-grandpas in wheelchairs around, or kicking people out of campsites they have already paid for, or whether they'd rather put in an application for early retirement or take extended sick-leave or just get together with the rest of their crew and tell their supervisor "We can't do this - we will all go to jail for it, and you as supervisor will get the longest sentence. Tell your supervisor to tell his supervisor that we can't do it."

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at October 09, 2013 11:49 AM (z3eU6)

411 Pro tip; BJ's has excellent top shelf booze at bargain prices. You realize you lost Ace at "BJ's" right?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:49 AM (/PCJa)

412 Probably not a good idea for an ewok as furry as ace to go hiking anywhere he might be mistaken for a bear. Liable to get himself shot, stuffed and mounted on some Canuck's wall.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 09, 2013 03:47 PM (4df7R)

Or "cuddled" by Putin!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 11:49 AM (kXoT0)

413 Every day, TFG does something new to enrage me, or several. This morning I heard that they aren't paying death benefits to service members killed in action. I think that was yesterday's news but I heard today. Rush mentioned that they aren't meeting deceased service members with family & ceremony! Is it any more apparent that he should not be CIC because he hates the military. A congressman with balls should be keeping list of impeachable offenses & file the papers on The House. O/T but I received email from Senate Conservatives Fund about chinless, spineless, minority leader last week saying Freedom Works & Senate Conservatives Funds are enemies. I had email from NRCC or NRSC asking me to sign petition, I deleted it. GOP hasn't green $ from me since Steele was head of it, I tried calling to tell them why, I cannot remember what he said that pissed me off.

Posted by: CarolT. at October 09, 2013 11:49 AM (z4WKX)

414 415 You're going to love Costa Rica! Ewok friendly. http://tinyurl.com/6o3fqfl Posted by: The Travel Agent at October 09, 2013 03:49 PM (wR+pz) Too expensive. Panama is better, as is Guatemala, Ecuador, and Peru. Chile and Argentina are also expensive. Bolivia is a shithole, but a cheap one.

Posted by: blindside at October 09, 2013 11:50 AM (WzWmY)

415 Fox Breaking: US to cut some aid to Egypt.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 09, 2013 11:50 AM (bCEmE)

416

@410

Don't you remember the "Captain America vs. the Evil Tea Party" incident a few years ago. Yeah, fuck that guy. I'm thinking Batman may be our only hope.

But when life gives you Batman, bat the shit out of it.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 11:51 AM (t06LC)

417 422 Fox Breaking: US to cut some aid to Egypt.

Posted by: Tami at October 09, 2013 03:50 PM (bCEmE)

Must not fuck with TFG's Muslim Brotherhood.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:51 AM (lVPtV)

418 ace, have a great vacation! Don't go out without your raincoat.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 09, 2013 11:51 AM (bCEmE)

419 You know ace, this is one of those times where I wish you had a "share" button so I could post this to facebook.

Have you tried copying the URL and pasting it into the "status update" box?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 09, 2013 11:51 AM (/kI1Q)

420
Fox Breaking: US to cut some aid to Egypt.

I guess POUTUS is pulling out all stops now.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 09, 2013 11:52 AM (0IhFx)

421 Ace is on vaca.

Ace is on a cow? WTF? The toaster is going to be pissed!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:52 AM (4df7R)

422 Maybe not in stature, but in reputation you are! ^_^ I mentioned on the ONT the other night that when we bumped into each other the morning after the MoMee I was all, "OMG OMG OMG she remembers me? OMG OMG she remembers my name? OMG OMG OMG!!" Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea at October 09, 2013 03:45 PM (4df7R) Do you know I very nearly didn't go over to say hi because I was sure you wouldn't want to talk to me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 11:52 AM (VtjlW)

423 Ace could actually visit a National Park. The NPS goons will assume he's a Bigfoot.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 11:52 AM (lVPtV)

424 Hand to God, I was just thinking about this issue this morning (that with these ridiculous "shut downs" of public spaces the NPS is acting as if it and/or the executive branch *owns* this property instead of merely being administrators/trustees of the property on behalf of the public) and I almost posted about it in the Morning News Dump thread, but wanted to do a quick WestLaw search to see if there were any special provisions/exceptions before I opened my mouth. I'm glad to see Jonathan Last has done that for me.

Also, the MSM has no expertise in *anything* in my experience. Anytime I have ever read or seen a story in the media that I knew anything about, the media has gotten it wrong in at least one major material aspect (and often in more than one). Consequently, I trust them even less on issues with which I am not familiar.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at October 09, 2013 11:53 AM (FDGeg)

425 421 Bolivia is a shithole, but a cheap one. --- What could they have here that you could possibly want to buy?

Posted by: The Sundance Kid at October 09, 2013 11:53 AM (/Crba)

426 So I just called my Congressman about Yellowstone, the colonial farm, Mt. Rushmore, etc. The lackey who answered the phone had no idea what the hell I was talking about. I was flabbergasted. I asked if the Congressman at least knew about the WWII Memorial, he said he did, the Congressman thinks it should be opened. Well good, but I told him I find his ignorance of what is going on in this country to be very disturbing, and the Congressman's absence on virtually every issue thus far in his first term will assuredly doom him next November.

For the record, he's a gay Clinton-hack donk from Manhattan, only representing the district with West Point thanks to the state GOP nuking the Republican majority during redistricting and Obama's coattails. Even if the guy does finally do something to distinguish himself for the district, he'll be out on his ass next year.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 09, 2013 11:53 AM (W7ffl)

427

@426

Please, they assured me there would be no thinking.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 11:53 AM (t06LC)

428 Oh...and I forgot to mention this.
Figure the odds that the VA would have chosen October 1st as the day to tell me that I am recovered from cancer treatment, and they can now lower my disability level .

The finding is correct, and the level of follow on disability matches my own calculation. So in that respect it's correct.
Just figure the odds that it would be at the same time that the government shuts down.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 09, 2013 11:54 AM (xdC/M)

429

@432

Cocaine and hookers.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 11:54 AM (t06LC)

430 Leftwing writers have misused Captain America many times over the years.

Posted by: steevy at October 09, 2013 11:54 AM (9XBK2)

431 Did you folks forget who JEF supported in Nicaragua when the Congress there had their President removed from office for violating their Constitution? Posted by: blindside at October 09, 2013 03:47 PM (WzWmY) It was Honduras and yes, TFG's actions were revolting, not only taking sides in the internal dispute of another country but the *clearly* legally wrong side because the removed leader was *also* far-left.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 09, 2013 11:54 AM (qyfb5)

432 Weevil: may this post inspire Volokh and Insty to offer their own ideas. Dunno about Althouse. With her it depends on whatever it is that sets her moods that day.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 09, 2013 11:54 AM (PpENV)

433 Do you know I very nearly didn't go over to say hi because I was sure you wouldn't want to talk to me.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 03:52 PM (VtjlW)

*glomp* I'm glad you did!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:54 AM (4df7R)

434 >When Dem Sheila Jackson Lee pines for martial law, she had best be careful. During an emergency, fat, lazy, and weapons grade stupid is not a useful survival set.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 09, 2013 03:46 PM (kXoT0)

aw, you didn't watch the clip. Sheila Jackson Lee thinks 'martial law' means fast-tracking a spending bill.

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 11:54 AM (8sCoq)

435 TwitchyTeam ‏@TwitchyTeam 1m

Rover, rinse, repeat: Lena Dunham confesses to using dog shampoo on multiple occasions http://bit.ly/15VPLmw

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 11:55 AM (8sCoq)

436

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 03:42 PM (t06LC)

Are you trying to blow up the blog? The chewing gum has dried out, the boilers are leaking steam and the hamsters haven't been paid in months. One more thing and there'll be a blog-shattering kaboom (not unlike the cereal) and that'll be it.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet has Petulance and Tantrums in all styles and colors! at October 09, 2013 11:56 AM (hLRSq)

437 In Peruvia we eat Guinea Pig. Spit roasted. Mmmmm

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 09, 2013 11:56 AM (32Ze2)

438 Shouldn't this post have a cheerleader pic?

Posted by: blaster at October 09, 2013 11:56 AM (W6bkf)

439 Gaylord is always on the wrong side.
Honduras, Argentina, Iran, Israel, Egypt, PRC....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 11:56 AM (ObMtJ)

440 aw, you didn't watch the clip. Sheila Jackson Lee thinks... Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 03:54 PM (8sCoq) And *that's* where ya lost me.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 09, 2013 11:56 AM (qyfb5)

441 Rover, rinse, repeat: Lena Dunham confesses to using dog shampoo on multiple occasions http://bit.ly/15VPLmw

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 09, 2013 03:55 PM (8sCoq)

*will not comment, will not comment will not commentwillnotcomment...!*

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:56 AM (4df7R)

442 aw, you didn't watch the clip. Sheila Jackson Lee thinks 'martial law' means fast-tracking a spending bill. I don't think she does. See, a lot of laws were passed in the South during Reconstruction during the period of Martial Law. What she may be confusing is that period (and, specifically, the fact that State politics were being directed by the Federal Legislature) and "Martial Law" in general.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est at October 09, 2013 11:57 AM (/PCJa)

443 I actually do wonder what will happen if a NPS goon tells a bunch of hikers to halt and they tell him, "fuck you and read this printout from Ace". Slashed tyres at 10 000 feet around 3 PM in October with no way down the mountain? NPS saying gosh we didn't see who did it? That knife cuts both ways. IYKWIM.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 09, 2013 11:57 AM (NKBxV)

444 Well, if it hasn't been said before, I'll say it now.

Ace hit it out of the Park on this one...

Posted by: HH at October 09, 2013 11:57 AM (XXwdv)

445 I live ten minutes from Valley Forge Park, where a jogger was arrested a day or so ago. I've driven through it for thirty plus years, starting before the Park Service took over. The park has always been a place where people from the surrounding communities went to hike or jog, or fly a kite with their kids on a windy day. Tourists? Not that many, maybe 10% of the total. So what has the Fed done since assuming control? Closed parking lots. Restricted access. Attempted to close a major thoroughfare that runs through the park. They push and shove and don't give a flying fuck that it is the park of the people, not them. I'm willing to stand in line in the pouring rain for any Pennsylvania politician who seeks to wrestle the park away from the Park 'Service'. I'm willing to stand even longer in the same rain for any politician who cuts their budget by about... I'd say 90% sounds fair.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat [/i] at October 09, 2013 11:57 AM (U2UQk)

446 Seriously. Considering the extent of the leftist march. There is little reason to think we can roll the socialism/totalitarianism back without a civil war. Now is there?

Posted by: maddogg at October 09, 2013 11:58 AM (xWW96)

447 448 Rover, rinse, repeat: Lena Dunham confesses to using dog shampoo on multiple occasions http://bit.ly/15VPLmw --- Still wouldn't fuck that bitch, even if I had a keg to myself.

Posted by: Spuds McKenzie at October 09, 2013 11:58 AM (/Crba)

448 Still wouldn't fuck that bitch, even if I had a keg to myself.

Posted by: Spuds McKenzie at October 09, 2013 03:58 PM (/Crba)

"Yo no quiero!"

-Taco Bell Chihauha

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 11:59 AM (4df7R)

449 "(As an Independent myself"

But you're not an independent. If you were, you'd vote for a Democrat. When was the last time you voted for a Democrat, or anyone not a member of the GOP?

Posted by: Rogo at October 09, 2013 11:59 AM (/FnUH)

450 * RULE 2: Â“Never go outside the expertise of your people.Â” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals donÂ’t address the Â“realÂ” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.) and, kudos to Ace for doing this: RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.Â” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) paraphrased rules for radicals via http://www.bestofbeck.com/wp/activism/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 09, 2013 11:59 AM (IXrOn)

451 It's all fun and games and shutdown theatre until someone gets shot. Seriously, this is going to escalate. Which is what BHO really wants. I seriously think he wants a park service employee to get killed in order to make his point.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 09, 2013 11:59 AM (EGPJQ)

452 Re: Sidebar on IRS and White House conspiring against donors based on tax records, sure it's grounds for impeachment, probably at least the 30th or 40th. Too bad the "opposition" thinks that's not the hill to die on. Life sucks ass. You fight, every day, or you lose. Being insulated from that by prosperity has been pleasant but debilitating. Unfortunately *not* being insulated from that tends to make people ravaging assholes, so I'm not saying there's a "win" position in that prosperity vs. adversity argument. Being *actually* insulated by prosperity without someone taking a wrecking ball to that prosperity is probably the marginally better position. Too bad people are stupid.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 09, 2013 12:00 PM (qyfb5)

453

derrrrrrrp

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 12:00 PM (4df7R)

454 Rover, rinse, repeat: Lena Dunham confesses to using dog shampoo on multiple occasions http://bit.ly/15VPLmw
---
Still wouldn't fuck that bitch, even if I had a keg to myself.
Posted by: Spuds McKenzie at October 09, 2013 03:58 PM (/Crba)

I wouldn't fuck that even if she gave me a shiny new toaster to fuck first.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 09, 2013 12:00 PM (W7ffl)

455 hey stupid R's, who gave the order not to pay death benefits?? what bothers me most is we have not one decent person in-the-know at the Pentagon who will step up and speak out. but what's the point when Republicans are too dense to demand the answers to the *right* questions

Posted by: soothsayer at October 09, 2013 12:00 PM (Nk0AM)

456 An "independent" Someone to chicken shit to admit to his rich friends he votes democrat.

Posted by: John Smith at October 09, 2013 12:00 PM (wR+pz)

457 How most people view AlextheChick
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/noir-marko-manev-1.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 12:01 PM (ObMtJ)

458 461 Rover, rinse, repeat: Lena Dunham confesses to using dog shampoo on multiple occasions http://bit.ly/15VPLmw How else do you kill fleas and bed bugs?

Posted by: John Smith at October 09, 2013 12:01 PM (wR+pz)

459 It's all fun and games and shutdown theatre until someone gets shot. Seriously, this is going to escalate. Which is what BHO really wants. I seriously think he wants a park service employee to get killed in order to make his point.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at October 09, 2013 03:59 PM (EGPJQ)

I don't think Obammy cares WHO gets shot. But he wants bloodshed.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 12:02 PM (4df7R)

460 I'm going on vacation next week. Spend all day at the beach!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 09, 2013 12:02 PM (QF8uk)

461 Great schadenboner material: A dynamic chart of all the federal employees furloughed, and all the money not being paid to same.
http://labs.enigma.io/shutdown2013/

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at October 09, 2013 12:03 PM (/lWM8)

462 464 How most people view AlextheChick http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/noir-marko-manev-1.jpg --- I would go with "No capes!" instead. http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4709973979826642&pid=15.1

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 09, 2013 12:03 PM (/Crba)

463 [iHow most people view AlextheChick
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/noir-marko-manev-1.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 04:01 PM (ObMtJ) [/i]

...

Yeah, that's pretty accurate, actually.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 12:03 PM (4df7R)

464 Also since I have to - Libertarians don't "flip a coin." They're actually staggeringly consistent if not practical, which is the actual problem. Then there are small-l libertarians who just signed up for the pot, that's another matter entirely.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 09, 2013 12:03 PM (qyfb5)

465 472 ace is doing McDonalds commercials with Larry Bird.
http://youtu.be/UHbaWs_NOT4

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 09, 2013 04:03 PM (32Ze2)

heh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 12:04 PM (lVPtV)

466

How most people view AlextheChick

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/noir-marko-manev-1.jpg

---

I would go with "No capes!" instead.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4709973979826642&pid=15.1

Put the two together and you've got it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 12:04 PM (4df7R)

467 Don't you remember the "Captain America vs. the Evil Tea Party" incident a few years ago. Yeah, fuck that guy. I'm thinking Batman may be our only hope. But when life gives you Batman, bat the shit out of it. Posted by: Jollyroger at October 09, 2013 03:51 PM (t06LC) I had a little chat with my Comic Book Store guy when that happened wherein he was pretty much holy shit you're not going to stop spending All The Money here because of that are you, here try these series instead you'll like them, please don't abandon me pleeaaasssseee. I assured him that I would not hold that jackassery against him. Then we had a completely hilarious discussion about teabagging that caused the little 19 yo guy he had working there to turn shades of red I didn't know existed.

Posted by: alexthechick - Bring the SMOD at October 09, 2013 12:05 PM (VtjlW)

468 Something different and OT.

Alan Parson's Project - You Lie Down With Dogs and robo-pron.
http://youtu.be/jag3HwS74pc

Toaster now feels unloved.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 09, 2013 12:05 PM (ObMtJ)

469 NPS, just doing their job.
MSM, just doing their job.
Everyone needs to make a living, cut them some slack.

Posted by: Big Ben at October 09, 2013 12:06 PM (I5Htn)

470 Awesome essay. Ace brings it once again.
I think the JEF is going to keep pushing against the citizens until there is an incident whereby he can declare martial law. I used to think that notion was tinfoil hat time. No more. I put nothing past these fascist cockholsters.

Posted by: real joe at October 09, 2013 12:06 PM (iqs1Q)

471 Son just walked in from the DMV he was sent to 45 miles away. Has spent over five hours the last two days to renew his GA license.

Was told to come back in three months and take a written test.

He just used some very colorful language.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 12:07 PM (lVPtV)

472 Nood

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Chelsea [/i][/s][/u][/b] at October 09, 2013 12:07 PM (4df7R)

473

Posted by: Big Ben at October 09, 2013 04:06 PM (I5Htn)

There were a lot of nazis on trial that would have loved to had your dumb ass on their jury.

Posted by: maddogg at October 09, 2013 12:07 PM (xWW96)

474

Everyone needs to make a living, cut them some slack.

Only after they have been dangling from the noose for a sufficiently long time.

(Hanging reference not intended literally.)

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 09, 2013 12:08 PM (sfIVg)

475 Excellent piece, Ace. Thank you. In honor of the work you obviously put into it, I read the whole thing

Posted by: Filly at October 09, 2013 12:08 PM (Sdl8i)

476 NPS, just doing their job.
MSM, just doing their job.
Everyone needs to make a living, cut them some slack.

Posted by: Big Ben at October 09, 2013 04:06 PM (I5Htn)

___________________________

Gestapo, Just doing their job

SS, just doing their job

Guards at Bergen-Belsen, just doing their job.

Everyone needs to make a living, cut them some slack.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 09, 2013 12:08 PM (32Ze2)

477 Great work, Ace, and don't you be caught recreating on your vacation!

Posted by: Ian S. at October 09, 2013 12:08 PM (B/VB5)

478 479 Son just walked in from the DMV he was sent to 45 miles away. Has spent over five hours the last two days to renew his GA license. Was told to come back in three months and take a written test. He just used some very colorful language. Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 04:07 PM (lVPtV) I remember my son having problems at DMV when he came back too.....colorful language was involved also.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at October 09, 2013 12:09 PM (bCEmE)

479

Well I did. so now:

VACATION, BEEOTCHES!

WHOO-HOO!!!!

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB)

Who's going to monitor the non political threads? I feel anarchy approaching.

Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2013 12:09 PM (m2CN7)

480 Of all the possibilities, who would've thought Park Service thuggery would be the thing to prick the protective bubble around the Obama Administration?

Posted by: troyriser at October 09, 2013 12:09 PM (O66NZ)

481 Guess I don't know a damn thing as I never would've looked at it that way. Although I know that WE OWN ALL OF IT as declared in The Constitution and all that.......the actual logistics of it has escaped me.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 09, 2013 12:09 PM (xmcEQ)

482 We need a new abbreviation here:
lbsts;wtrm
Long but still too short; want to read more.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at October 09, 2013 12:10 PM (z3eU6)

483 449 aw, you didn't watch the clip. Sheila Jackson Lee thinks 'martial law' means fast-tracking a spending bill. I don't think she does. *** I think she means let Matt Dillon and Chester handle it.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 09, 2013 12:10 PM (Cvyue)

484 Posted by: real joe at October 09, 2013 04:06 PM (iqs1Q)

I feel exactly the same way. Not a good feeling to have.

Posted by: HH at October 09, 2013 12:11 PM (XXwdv)

485 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at October 09, 2013 03:54 PM (qyfb5) Honduras - thanks. I've been reading ride reports of guys traveling Central and South America on motorcycles. Those countries are looking very attractive. Did you know that you can ACTUALLY build things there, and the government won't harass you?

Posted by: blindside at October 09, 2013 12:11 PM (WzWmY)

486

"and, kudos to Ace for doing this:

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.Â” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) "

I love Ace's articles, but he hasn't done any of this. When you identify someone as responsible, be it a government employee or a "journalist" to apply this Alinsky rule, the shit gets real.

This is a good piece, but it's all generalization.

Posted by: jwest at October 09, 2013 12:14 PM (u2a4R)

487 blindside:
The problem is that if Obama succeeds in making this kind of thing permanent, Central America will not be safe for long. He's already interfered in Honduras - think he won't force them to screw over ungrateful Americans fleeing his rule?

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at October 09, 2013 12:14 PM (z3eU6)

488 Posted by: polynikes at October 09, 2013 04:09 PM (m2CN7) LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 09, 2013 12:14 PM (a4Omg)

489 Was told to come back in three months and take a written test. Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 04:07 PM (lVPtV) Wait until he gets a load of DMVCare.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile[/i][/b][/s][/u] at October 09, 2013 12:14 PM (qyfb5)

490 484
Monkey, don't get me wrong. I'm just pointing out what all the girly men on this site say every time someone says it might be time for action.
Everyone here likes to bitch, but nobody is going to do anything of substance.
If I lived near any of these sites there is no way I would let a park police keep me out.

Posted by: Big Ben at October 09, 2013 12:15 PM (I5Htn)

491 These tourist need to SUE for kidnapping, anytime one is held against one's will it is kidnapping and illegal. I know these were the Park police, so I'm thinking they needed an arrest warrant to legally detain these people and I bet they didn't have one. There must be some legal grounds for a lawsuit here, cruel and unusual punishment or something?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 09, 2013 12:15 PM (KL49F)

492 Wait until he gets a load of DMVCare.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at October 09, 2013 04:14 PM (qyfb5)

He visited the VA yesterday. Has a serious back injury (documented by the Navy) and was told to come back in six months.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 12:17 PM (lVPtV)

493
I remember my son having problems at DMV when he came back too.....colorful language was involved also.

Posted by: Tami at October 09, 2013 04:09 PM (bCEmE)

Yeah, I remember. The kid had a few words for the DMV goonette. Not swear words, but he gave her a piece of his mind.

He walked in the door just swearing up a storm.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 12:19 PM (lVPtV)

494

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 04:07 PM (lVPtV)

Two months ago my Son was home on emergency leave from Guam.... he tried to renew his Colorado Drivers License and because he had been stationed overseas for more than a year, with his license expired... he had to take a DRIVING test to renew...

He was home for 30 days.... soonest he could test from the State? EIGHT WEEKS.

I went three levels up in management of the Colorado folks... no joy... his license is STILL expired.

Thanks for your service, now sit down and shut up...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 09, 2013 12:21 PM (lZBBB)

495 Posted by: Big Ben at October 09, 2013 04:15 PM (I5Htn) I'll guarantee you live near some sort of NPS-administered land or facility. Everyone in the country does. Why don't you drop on over to one of them and put your money where your mouth is.

Posted by: blindside at October 09, 2013 12:28 PM (WzWmY)

496 Awesome piece of work, Ace.

Thanks on behalf of myself and my beneficial owner, Barrack H. Obama.

Posted by: Z as in Jersey at October 09, 2013 12:32 PM (A1UEK)

497 >>> (A libertarian gets out a coin and flips it.) You're out of your mind. No libertarian would ever, EVER, join sides with authoritarianism. And many Independents are that way because the Republican Party is for amnesty and expanding Medicaid.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at October 09, 2013 12:34 PM (jKf/K)

498 Ace, forgive my Noob Squeeing over this post. Excellent work!

Posted by: Ace for Preezy of the Yoonited Steezy at October 09, 2013 12:35 PM (2iHnw)

499 CRANSTON, R.I. -
Terence McAuliffe, the former chairman of the national Democratic Party, was one of hundreds of people who invested in variable annuities that used terminally ill patients as the annuitants.

McAuliffe and others became owners of the investment instruments through Cranston estate planner Joseph Caramadre. Caramadre pleaded guilty to stealing the identities of terminally ill patients and using that information to falsely apply for annuities and bonds with death puts.

Prosecutors said Caramadre cost insurance companies between $37 million and $48 million from the scheme.

http://www.turnto10.com/story/23644340/insurance-companies-file-suit-against-caramadre

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Looks like Ken Cuccinelli may be saved by the October Surprise. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge

I hope so, but I think it's already been well established McAuliffe is a crooked businessman.

Virginia voters don't seem to care, they're still steaming over the ridiculous ultrasound abortion bill. If McAuliffe wins, you can blame most of it on that.

Posted by: McAdams at October 09, 2013 12:37 PM (WHca6)

500

We need Yogi bear to go fully ballistic on these NPS queebs.

Posted by: wth at October 09, 2013 12:39 PM (wAQA5)

501

ace, excellent post - substance is good in a degraded society and increasingly lawless, unmoored republic.

But this, and similar posts pondering the morphology and origins of media bias/dysfunction, share one flaw: they're "over-determined". Meaning everything you say is accurate and sensible, and the analysis is sound - but one really doesn't need to go to such lengths to figure it out.

Having had serious time inside the Beltway media machine, and also more time dealing with it from the guvamint side (but a hated, demonized guvamint, not a revered, pampered regime as we have today), suffice it to say that these people are not that bright, lack values that would make them (in an historical sense) Americans, and of course are happy to act as histrionic partisans for the dumbest, ugliest, most pernicious causes and figures.

And way back when I was working in their midst of all the pathologies one was most striking. There was actually a negative connotation to actual expertise - at least in national security areas. They certainly had none, and if one appeared in their number who did .... whoa. Strange looks and suspicion.

Important to note that "not (effectively) very bright" and utterly in thrall to fashionable Beltway/NPR frameworks/ignorance/"ideology" usually morph into the same thing. The (effective) stupid is so strong with these people.

Posted by: non-purist at October 09, 2013 12:40 PM (afQnV)

502 As usual, Ace, you tackle a complex subject and break it down bit by bit, paragraph by paragraph, with clear analogies and imagery.

Essays, book, Amazon. Some assembly required, but it'll be worth it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 09, 2013 12:44 PM (BDU/a)

503
He was home for 30 days.... soonest he could test from the State? EIGHT WEEKS.

I went three levels up in management of the Colorado folks... no joy... his license is STILL expired.

Thanks for your service, now sit down and shut up...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 09, 2013 04:21 PM (lZBBB)

Yeah, it's ridiculous. He was in a combat logistics battalion and drove every imaginable armored vehicle, without incident. Comes back to GA where idiots don't even know what a turn signal is, and goes through this shit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 09, 2013 12:44 PM (lVPtV)

504 Great post, Ace.

On par with your best movie reviews.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 09, 2013 01:21 PM (eHIJJ)

505 It's my stupid nature

Posted by: the scorpion at October 09, 2013 01:26 PM (QupBk)

506 Simply thanks, Ace. You never cease to tell it like it is.

Posted by: shelby at October 09, 2013 01:38 PM (TKaeM)

507 >>But this, and similar posts pondering the morphology and origins of media bias/dysfunction, share one flaw: they're "over-determined". Meaning everything you say is accurate and sensible, and the analysis is sound - but one really doesn't need to go to such lengths to figure it out. true but I like linking their bias to their incompetencies and ignorances, for purposes of delegitimization -- their legitimacy to act as Experts and Arbiters of Truth was never established in the first place, except by self-declaration, and always was illegitimate. But I do think there's something helpful about attacking that assumption down at the root. I like embarrassing them. It's useful to embarrass a know it all.

Posted by: ace at October 09, 2013 01:56 PM (/IWYB)

508 Ace, this is terrific. It's the kind of break-the-narrative-down-bit-by-ridiculous-bit piece that actually does change minds.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 09, 2013 02:36 PM (GmTxn)

509 Seriously, ace. As I said in comment 417, someone with influence (I only have 10 Twitter followers) needs to get some well-known web-lawyer (InstaPundit, one of the Volokhs, Legal Insurrection) to tell us all specifically "what statutes the NPS is violating, what the penalties are, whether these penalties are cumulative, who has standing to sue, and (here's the part that worries me) what the statutes of limitation are on each count". We need the facts on our side so we can start reminding these goons that they are risking loss of jobs and pensions, even fines and jail-terms, if they keep following their (I'm pretty sure, but can't prove it) illegal orders. Unless they really think their party's going to stay in power forever, that ought to make some of them think. Another question for lawyers: if a government bureaucrat commits crimes, and is pardoned by the president, we obviously can't jail him, but can we fire him, or does a pardon preclude that?

We also need to think of some way to put the basics of your argument into slogans suitable for signs - and do it before Sunday.

I mean, I'm not dumb and I've been thinking about the issue, but I was still far less than half way to what you argued here, trying to think it out myself. You made it SO clear. Thanks for clarifying the issue.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at October 09, 2013 02:37 PM (z3eU6)

510 This is perhaps the most fundamental "change" possible. Rewriting all contract and ownership laws by redefining what is "owned" or "entrusted" makes freedom virtual impossible. When we change the meanings of words we change the meaning of law, when you change the concept of ownership you destroy liberty.

Posted by: Adam at October 09, 2013 03:25 PM (RO/JS)

511 Let me just add a late-comment "huzzah" for Ace. Well said.

Posted by: ArrMatey at October 09, 2013 04:09 PM (uKRtA)

512 494 "and, kudos to Ace for doing this: RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.Â” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) " thats all fine and good but remember alinsky's rules for radicals is based on on having the media on your side and them being willing to be spoon fed stuff for dissemination to the masses we dont have that until we have that, trying to pick a person out of bunch of terrible persons and calling them out for who they are and what theyve done will only be covered by the msm as mean people that are part of the "vast right wing conspiracy" trying to hurt people with "the politics of personal destruction" until we have the media we're pissing into the wind to a great extent we also dont have the education system that keeps churning out these leftists, progressives, marxists, communists, socialists, and the like that graduate with journalism degrees. until we have that we will continue to play "whack a mole" everywhere one pops his head up, which will be everywhere. what im saying is this: it took us like 50 years or so to get into this mess; it might take another 50 or so to get out of it, and thats IF AND ONLY IF we do our part as well or better than they did their part all these years. the game will have been over WAY BEFORE then. we may be screwed, with a capital F which leads me to my next point... theres this guy i know that has been saying for months and months if not years and years now that IF there were ever another situation to happen in the USA like what happened between 1775-1783 (which would be our right and duty according to The Founders), that not only would there be a need for hostilities between those fighting for freedom and the government, but there would also be a need for hostilities between those fighting for freedom and the current mainstream media, and likewise between those fighting for freedom and the education system, due to the fact that there is very little, if any, daylight in between them. i dont think hes saying it should or will come to that. i think what hes saying is that the next thing, if it were to actually happen, would be a lot more complex due the fact that it wouldnt be just the government that would have to be overcome. it would be the whole government-media-education complex. very formidable indeed...

Posted by: sound awake at October 09, 2013 04:18 PM (wKPt0)

513

This is good stuff, Ace.

Posted by: garrett at October 09, 2013 10:26 PM (0lP/k)

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