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December 04, 2013

Young Voters Turn Against Obama & Obamacare
— Ace

Even the slowest boats eventually reach the river's bank.

A Harvard study that tracks the attitudes of young voters (and, I guess, the #WHYouth) finds that they've gone sour on Obama.

The results blow a gaping hole in the belief among many Democrats that Obama's two elections signaled a durable grip on the youth vote.
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Obama's approval rating among young Americans is just 41 percent, down 11 points from a year ago, and now tracking with all adults. While 55 percent said they voted for Obama in 2012, only 46 percent said they would do so again.
When asked if they would want to recall various elected officials, 45 percent of millennials said they would oust their member of Congress; 52 percent replied "all members of Congress" should go; and 47 percent said they would recall Obama. The recall-Obama figure was even higher among the youngest millennials, ages 18 to 24, at 52 percent.

Obama needs these young fools to sign up for his massively redistributive trainwreck. But they've gotten word it's intended to harm them:

According to the poll, 57 percent of millennials disapprove of Obamacare, with 40 percent saying it will worsen their quality of care and a majority believing it will drive up costs. Only 18 percent say Obamacare will improve their care. Among 18-to-29-year-olds currently without health insurance, less than one-third say they're likely to enroll in the Obamacare exchanges.

It's an online survey, though performed by what seems to be a respectable outfit. But I'm not sure how the polling industry feels about online polls, which include a healthy dose of self-selection.

Posted by: Ace at 01:56 PM | Comments (181)
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1 Has anyone noted that Obama is a SCOAMF today?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at December 04, 2013 01:57 PM (yz6yg)

2 But a Raising Tide is a thoroughly discredited Reaganomic theory !!!!

Posted by: Groucho Marx at December 04, 2013 01:58 PM (jdRXP)

3 So.. I guess the "price tag" video needs some punching up?

Hahahahahaha

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 04, 2013 01:58 PM (f9c2L)

4 Saw a funny #richmanpoorman from Adam Carolla Having a charity named after you.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 04, 2013 01:58 PM (ZPrif)

5 It's Bush's fault!

Posted by: GuyfromNH at December 04, 2013 01:58 PM (kbOju)

6 But Kathleen Parker thinks the Democrats have better messaging.

Posted by: Avi at December 04, 2013 01:59 PM (VpaPa)

7 Online polls may not be the most accurate but this is hardly an outlier. Obama has been sinking to record low numbers in every poll, he's losing support from every group including kids.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2013 01:59 PM (g1DWB)

8 Is there a term that describes the possibility that zombies can become un-walking dead?

Posted by: Angel with a sword at December 04, 2013 02:00 PM (hpgw1)

9 Ace, A scientific online poll can correct for self selection. All polls are vulnerable to self-selection. We often don't trust "online" polls because they aren't corrected. #stats101

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 04, 2013 02:00 PM (GaqMa)

10 Somebody should really shit in these kids' mouths.

Posted by: Martin Bashir, Far Superior To You at December 04, 2013 02:00 PM (JQuNB)

11 The Young plant oats , while the old grow sage. Winston Churchill. I just know our Prezzy studied Churchill. All Militants hate Churchill.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at December 04, 2013 02:00 PM (j6DTo)

12 The #richmanpoorman game is to list things that are true if you are really poor or really rich, but not so much in between. Like only paying cash.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 04, 2013 02:00 PM (ZPrif)

13 How reassuring. Hope it lasts, but I'm not betting on it. The kool-aid is strong.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2013 02:01 PM (JRmiD)

14 Are they fishing in these boats?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 04, 2013 02:02 PM (BrrWI)

15 Eh, wake me when they vote R I wish I was still coaching HS debate regularly. It'd be interesting to see if the kids have changed at all from being Obama worshipers to being individuals

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at December 04, 2013 02:02 PM (pTp+C)

16 Kathleen Parker's columns are like shit in my eyeballs.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at December 04, 2013 02:02 PM (Nsoq9)

17 All this Obamacare thing needs is some new ads, better messaging, "going on offense" (whatever that means), and changing the subject. This administration thinks purely in terms of tactics. Everything with them is perception=reality. Afraid not, anymore. Reality=reality. Their flailing is almost sad. My "schadenfreude" muscle has been so engorged and throbbing for so many weeks that I think I need to see a doctor.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 04, 2013 02:03 PM (zeV2E)

18 It doesn't matter what the polls say. Obama doesn't need voters any more.

Posted by: Cloistered Sock at December 04, 2013 02:04 PM (4vejH)

19 "The kool-aid is strong." True, but the job market is a nice blast of ice water to the face...maybe they are waking up.

Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2013 02:04 PM (hFL/3)

20 Or spending the entire day in your bathrobe.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 04, 2013 02:04 PM (ZPrif)

21 Let's hope we have a candidate who can capitalize on this when SCOAMF runs again in 2016. Crispy Creosote, peut-Ãªtre?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:04 PM (olDqf)

22 Saw that earlier. Am reminded of John McClane saying: "Welcome to the party, pal. "

Posted by: D-Lamp at December 04, 2013 02:04 PM (bb5+k)

I don't think this poll is too far away from reality. Just look at the popularity of the "Hunger Games" movies.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 02:04 PM (9sMM9)

24 8 Is there a term that describes the possibility that zombies can become un-walking dead?Posted by: Angel with a sword at December 04, 2013 06:00 PM (hpgw1)
Perhaps exposure to Mexican cobalt-60.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 04, 2013 02:04 PM (BrrWI)

25 Obama was going to teach me and my boat all about fish. He lied.

Posted by: Very Slow Boat To Employment at December 04, 2013 02:04 PM (eHIJJ)

26 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 04, 2013 06:00 PM (GaqMa)

Yeah....on-line polls can't be as accurate as calling polls: the original sample simply isn't random.

I'm not sure how you see a correction being worthwhile.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2013 02:04 PM (oJ5Fd)

27 10 I'm sure Bashir is completely familiar with the panoply of odors, flavors and textures therein. Were he an educated man, he might be able to wax eloquent on the state of your diet and digestive system after a good rimming.

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at December 04, 2013 02:05 PM (S5LPT)

28 avi, they don't have better messaging they have the whole mfm and hellywood campaigning for them non-stop!

how can woman in binders! actually be a winner without media saying yeah oh yeah women in binders.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:05 PM (nqBYe)

29 "18 It doesn't matter what the polls say. Obama doesn't need voters any more." Scant comfort to the Democrats up for election (i.e. a bloodbath) in 2014 and 2016.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 04, 2013 02:05 PM (zeV2E)

30 and for the validity of the numbers or not, what's more important is the direction of change from one poll to the next rather than the raw numbers, so long as the poll is conducted the same way each time blah blah blah

Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at December 04, 2013 02:05 PM (pTp+C)

31 'hope and change'

fcol.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:05 PM (nqBYe)

32 25 Obama was going to teach me and my boat all about fish. He lied. Posted by: Very Slow Boat To Employment at December 04, 2013 06:04 PM (eHIJJ) SCOAMF/Luca Brasi '16. A solid concrete footing...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:05 PM (olDqf)

33 If you live in a Blue State you get a personal boat and a Union Fisherman to man it.

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at December 04, 2013 02:06 PM (S5LPT)

34 whoa. some kinda scary stuff on FoxNews

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 04, 2013 02:06 PM (ZPrif)

35 Say hello to the draft, kiddies!

Posted by: Invest in the futour at December 04, 2013 02:06 PM (R6JT1)

36 Whatever happened to AllenG?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 04, 2013 02:06 PM (jucos)

37 25 Obama was going to teach me and my boat all about fish. He lied. Posted by: Very Slow Boat To Employment at December 04, 2013 06:04 PM (eHIJJ) Obama/Fredo Corleone '16 "Hail Mary, full of graceÂ…"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:07 PM (olDqf)

38 young impressionable voter, I thought it was really free, I can't pay for that and buy a new iphone!

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:07 PM (nqBYe)

39 Sounds about right to me. I'm a Millennial (almost 26) with a range of Millennial friends, many of them raving liberals, and most of them have gone mysteriously quiet since October. There'll be the occasional tweet about Wendy Davis or what have you, but aside from that, nothing. Considering that they were spraying their opinions all over the place back when they were confident in their boy Barry, I can't help thinking reality is starting to set in for a few of them.

Posted by: Rosa E. at December 04, 2013 02:07 PM (ynTYJ)

40 36 Whatever happened to AllenG? Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 04, 2013 06:06 PM (jucos) Must've stood too close when he burnt the ground and salted the earth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:07 PM (olDqf)

41 >> online polls, which include a healthy dose of self-selection

Not unlike healthcare.gov, ironically.

Posted by: sandy burger at December 04, 2013 02:07 PM (6ClcK)

42 Michele row the boat ashore. Hallelujah

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 04, 2013 02:07 PM (BrrWI)

43 How reassuring. Hope it lasts, but I'm not betting on it. The kool-aid is strong.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2013 06:01 PM (JRmiD)

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There is still one very venomous snake Dear Leader hasn't pulled out of the sack yet: Student loan forgiveness.

If he does that, all bets are off.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 02:08 PM (9sMM9)

44 I've said for years that the Youth of today are ready for a change... But there is no one out there talking Liberty... Freedom.... and about how the current Fed Gov is, because of Big Government, putting them in Wage Slavery they will never get out of. The Youth are small L Libertarians... but the GOP cannot and will not use that to their advantage, because then they might have to actually DO something about Big Government...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2013 02:08 PM (lZBBB)

45 8 Is there a term that describes the possibility that zombies can become un-walking dead? Posted by: Angel with a sword at December 04, 2013 06:00 PM (hpgw1) I believe the term you're looking for is "mugged by reality."

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at December 04, 2013 02:08 PM (qFpRI)

46 While 55 percent said they voted for Obama in 2012, only 46 percent said they would do so again.

Hey, that's still well within the margin of fraud! Don't count me out for 2016 just yet!

Posted by: Jug Hussein Ears at December 04, 2013 02:08 PM (e4elg)

47 Isn't National Journal lefty?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 04, 2013 02:08 PM (VxV3H)

48 Entertainment Dollar or Wasteful Insurance. Entertainment Dollar or Wasteful Insurance.

Duuude! That's really a no-brainer. C'mon, Ipod!

Posted by: Very Slow Boat To Employment at December 04, 2013 02:08 PM (eHIJJ)

49 and de l-rd said, though shall buy my legislation hook and sinker, and do it now therefore we can become a fairer and more just world.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:08 PM (nqBYe)

50 It didn't take my niece, who voted for Barry the first time, so long to come to the conclusion that she had made a mistake. One Big Ass Mistake, America. Now, she's a libertarian. I can live with that.

Posted by: huerfano at December 04, 2013 02:08 PM (bAGA/)

51 34 whoa. some kinda scary stuff on FoxNews

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 04, 2013 06:06 PM (ZPrif)

Alan Colmes?

Posted by: Havedash at December 04, 2013 02:09 PM (ToMJU)

52 Fox is reporting that the container containing radioactive material that was stolen in Mexico has been found, empty.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2013 02:09 PM (g1DWB)

53 Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 06:08 PM (9sMM9) There is no way Obama could do that without Congress getting involved.... Don't see that happening...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2013 02:09 PM (lZBBB)

54 43 How reassuring. Hope it lasts, but I'm not betting on it. The kool-aid is strong. Posted by: Lizzy at December 04, 2013 06:01 PM (JRmiD) --------------------------------------------- There is still one very venomous snake Dear Leader hasn't pulled out of the sack yet: Student loan forgiveness. If he does that, all bets are off. Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 06:08 PM (9sMM9) Kool Aid doesn't have to be strong. It has to be constantly fed. And it is.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:09 PM (olDqf)

55 Can't buy health insurance when you don't have a job. Why buy health insurance if your parents are willing to keep you on until you hit 26? Here's something I'm wondering. I was able to stay on my mom's Health insurance past the age of 18 because they allowed that if you were going to college. During my second or third year my college added a requirement that students must have insurance and so the colleges health insurance plan would be added to your tuition and you needed proof of insurance to get it removed. I don't even remember how much it was but I can't help bit wonder how much more it is now because I bet what they had would not have met the obamacare minimum requirements.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 04, 2013 02:09 PM (Ni+Zy)

56 Dood - Obamacare cuts into my dope and X-box budget.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 04, 2013 02:09 PM (L0b3J)

57 JackStraw, yeah saw that. That is disconcerting.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 04, 2013 02:09 PM (ZPrif)

58 Does the little man in the boat smell like fish?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 04, 2013 02:10 PM (jucos)

59 Whatever happened to AllenG? Posted by: Truck Monkey New job. Not as much free time. He pops in when he can.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2013 02:10 PM (p9JxP)

60 how much material? and how usable ?

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:10 PM (nqBYe)

61 Did Fox say where the empty container was found?

Posted by: Retread at December 04, 2013 02:11 PM (IiAs3)

62 The Mexican Cobalt 60 thing sounds like a plot line from "Repo Man." Except this shit is real. But thank goodness we have very tight border controls on our southern front. (Gulp)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:11 PM (olDqf)

63 18-26 yr. olds are covered by mommy & daddy's healthcare, so for them to be mad at O-bah-muhh must be for another reason.......

like the ObamaEconomy that is screwing them in the arse.

Posted by: Death Is Not The Worst Of Evils at December 04, 2013 02:12 PM (nbGZj)

64 Every generation has its moment of clarity. For my generation -- the end of the baby boom-- it was the Space Shuttle Challenger tragedy. I recall that there was an unbridled optimism that technology would solve everything, and that we had as a society overcome every limitation. I think Obamacare may be the point of clarity for young adults; that there is only so much government can do, and that we have to temper our expectations of and demands on government intervention. We can only hope that there has been a rude awakening as to how far coerced "generosity" can take us as a society. On the other hand, I also hope that a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader will be serving me my sloppy joes and beer when I get home tonight. Not sure which is more probable.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 04, 2013 02:12 PM (K7P9U)

65 Fuck Breaking News ‏@BreakingNews Mexican nuclear official say stolen container of radioactive material found empty - @AP http://bit.ly/1kchJeW

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 04, 2013 02:12 PM (ZPrif)

66 inside job? how do others know when these things are being transported anyway?

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:12 PM (nqBYe)

67 " 36 Whatever happened to AllenG? " Last I heard he just doesn't have reliable internet access at his new job, but I was pretty much gone last week so something more may have happened in that time.

Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2013 02:12 PM (hFL/3)

68 >>Did Fox say where the empty container was found? Not exactly but the implication seems central Mexico. Not sure how much material either but it seemed to be enough to cause a good deal of concern.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2013 02:12 PM (g1DWB)

69 52 Fox is reporting that the container containing radioactive material that was stolen in Mexico has been found, empty.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2013 06:09 PM (g1DWB)

New Fast and Furious operation. This one called, the Quick and the Dead.

Posted by: Havedash at December 04, 2013 02:12 PM (ToMJU)

70 Dirty bomb with conventional explosives grade...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at December 04, 2013 02:12 PM (vHRtU)

71 So when they say "radioactive material" what exactly are we talking here?

Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2013 02:13 PM (hFL/3)

72 So Holder and SCOAMF deliver AK-47s to the drug cartels. What if they were delivering radioactive material to Iranian agents in Mexico? I'm living in a Tom Clancy book.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:13 PM (olDqf)

73 In a ravine 10 miles south of Crazy Achmed's Discount Sporting Goods and Dirty Bombs emporium.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 04, 2013 02:13 PM (L0b3J)

74 Did I ever tell you about the time I gave Kathleen Parker a Missouri Boat Ride?

Posted by: Martin Bashir at December 04, 2013 02:13 PM (UzPAd)

75 was it found in U.S?

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:13 PM (nqBYe)

76 Just wait until these White House Youth learn that they are REQUIRED BY LAW to sign up for ObamaCare. Most still think it's optional, and that they choose not to do it because it's a bad deal. Once they find out they MUST buy the bad dead, support for ObamaCare will drop even further.

Posted by: zombie at December 04, 2013 02:14 PM (+cx5n)

77 >>I'm living in a Tom Clancy book. Either that or a shitty remake of Repo Man.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2013 02:14 PM (g1DWB)

78 Even young folks don't like to be fucked without asking.

Posted by: dogfish at December 04, 2013 02:14 PM (nsOJa)

79 73 In a ravine 10 miles south of Crazy Achmed's Discount Sporting Goods and Dirty Bombs emporium. Posted by: Purp at December 04, 2013 06:13 PM (L0b3J) Especialidad de la casa: Tacos al Carbon 14.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:14 PM (olDqf)

80 Do you know the #1 reasons why Democrats like obama lose favor with Dumb People? Because they dont go far enough. Not enough free shit. And the opposition has not been wiped out.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 04, 2013 02:14 PM (JKuh8)

81 Oh c'om kids. Didn't you see those Obamacare ads? Those were great! Showing the youngsters drinking and doing all those crazy youngster activities you youngsters are always doing? Those were GREAT!

Posted by: Dang at December 04, 2013 02:14 PM (YWXTN)

82 And shit like this Mexico thing is why NSA spies on everybody on the planet.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 04, 2013 02:15 PM (ZPrif)

83 78 Even young folks don't like to be fucked without asking. Posted by: dogfish at December 04, 2013 06:14 PM (nsOJa) Hasn't hampered Harry Reid or Bob Menendez.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:15 PM (olDqf)

84 I think obama's poll numbers are irrelevant since he is not running for office. What counts is who signs up and pays premiums. Since they have rigged how they count how many people have actually signed a contract and there is no means of collecting premiums, I think that pretty much confirms that obamacare is a disaster and it will not sustain itself. I think it is hilarious that the people who voted for him are the ones getting screwed the most.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 04, 2013 02:15 PM (kkbgQ)

85 nevermind i see answer above.

damn it.
well i went blond for a moment and thought well i'm sure nothing will happen it will be o.k.

sigh dingy.

i'm sure stealing radioactive material could be for many purposes. like.. uh

nevermind.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:15 PM (nqBYe)

86 Something bad is going to happen to us.You can't have this kind of incompetence in charge for this long without something terrible happening.

Posted by: steevy at December 04, 2013 02:16 PM (zqvg6)

87 77 >>I'm living in a Tom Clancy book. Either that or a shitty remake of Repo Man. Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2013 06:14 PM (g1DWB) Made that comment earlier re; Repo Man. But, yeah. I actually like that movie.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:16 PM (olDqf)

88 Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2013 06:13 PM (hFL/3)

Cobalt 60.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2013 02:16 PM (oJ5Fd)

89 86 Something bad is going to happen to us.You can't have this kind of incompetence in charge for this long without something terrible happening. Posted by: steevy at December 04, 2013 06:16 PM (zqvg6) The last 5 years have been terrible. Just not all at once. Gevalt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:17 PM (olDqf)

90 Yeah....on-line polls can't be as accurate as calling polls: the original sample simply isn't random. I'm not sure how you see a correction being worthwhile. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2013 06:04 PM (oJ5Fd) I didn't read the entire thing, but it depends on what they're defining as "online poll." If it was a email blast with a Unique ID to Harvard students for example it'd be on par with a Phone pole as I understand it. If it was just posted on the web, yeah, you can't correct for it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 04, 2013 02:17 PM (GaqMa)

91 We can hope the thieves are stupid, and by their glow we will know them.

Posted by: Retread at December 04, 2013 02:17 PM (IiAs3)

92 I would stress to the yoots that obama and the donks lied their asses off to them when they said it would make healthcare affordable. They knew it would be a huge financial burden on most people and they knew the costs.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 04, 2013 02:17 PM (kkbgQ)

Every generation has its moment of clarity. For my generation -- the end of the baby boom-- it was the Space Shuttle Challenger tragedy. I recall that there was an unbridled optimism that technology would solve everything, and that we had as a society overcome every limitation.

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As a baby boomer, my moment of clarity came in Vietnam when I found out that there really was little people in the forest that wanted to kill me.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 02:17 PM (9sMM9)

94 A little anecdotal evidence is one of my nieces. Obamabot from the word go, and she voiced disapproval with the whole Obamacare scam.

Posted by: dogfish at December 04, 2013 02:17 PM (nsOJa)

95 Bud: Look at those assholes, ordinary fucking people. I hate 'em.

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 04, 2013 02:18 PM (ZPrif)

96 "86 Something bad is going to happen to us.You can't have this kind of incompetence in charge for this long without something terrible happening." Too late. It' called the last 5 years.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 04, 2013 02:18 PM (zeV2E)

97 President Poo Flinger was trying to blame his low ratings on the GOP today

Posted by: Albie Damned at December 04, 2013 02:18 PM (cGaCp)

98 If you ask a Leftist if they're happy with obama, they'll say no. They want obama to be More like Castro and less like Clinton.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 04, 2013 02:18 PM (JKuh8)

99 In the year 2014 If man is still alive Youth vote will skew GOP Blow your mind. In the year 2016 Obama's name will be a curse Every Dem will run like mad To the right. ...etc.

Posted by: zombie at December 04, 2013 02:19 PM (+cx5n)

100 This is not like 3 wise guys jacking a truck in Goodfellas. Whoever did this must have serious equipment to protect themselves let alone firepower. What sort of security procedures were or should have been in place? I mean, they ain't boosting cigarettes or booze here.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 02:19 PM (olDqf)

101 Starvation and death change more opinions than anything else.

Posted by: toby928© at December 04, 2013 02:19 PM (QupBk)

102 bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 04, 2013 02:19 PM (V4CBV)

103 "...Harvard students..."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at December 04, 2013 06:17 PM (GaqMa)

Well, there's another problem. How do you correct for the arrogance and stupidity of the typical Harvard student?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2013 02:20 PM (oJ5Fd)

104 86 Something bad is going to happen to us.You can't have this kind of incompetence in charge for this long without something terrible happening. Posted by: steevy at December 04, 2013 06:16 PM (zqvg6) I use to think the world had advanced somewhat after communism fell in the 90s. But: Russia is a threat China is a threat Islam is a threat South Ameica is going to hell American leftists are a threat

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 04, 2013 02:20 PM (kkbgQ)

105 "The results blow a gaping hole in the belief among many Democrats that Obama's two elections signaled a durable grip on the youth vote." If you say so...

Posted by: Ken Cuccinelli at December 04, 2013 02:20 PM (gXRIG)

106 The last 5 years have been terrible. Just not all at once.

Gevalt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 06:17 PM (olDqf)

_________________

Joe Biden is in China handling that whole SE Asian flashpoint. I feel SOOOO much better.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 04, 2013 02:20 PM (jucos)

107 82 And shit like this Mexico thing is why NSA spies on everybody on the planet.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 04, 2013 06:15 PM (ZPrif)

Except they usually seem to miss stuff like this and the Boston pressure cooker boys and the splody underwear wearer and the shoe bomber and the...

Posted by: Havedash at December 04, 2013 02:20 PM (ToMJU)

108 "Cobalt 60." Seriously? Well that's...not good.

Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2013 02:20 PM (hFL/3)

109 yeah, there are not many purposes the material could be used for.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:21 PM (nqBYe)

110 Believe ol soothie, when today's young people are dissatisfied with obama it's for all the wrong reasons.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 04, 2013 02:21 PM (JKuh8)

111 So when they say "radioactive material" what exactly are we talking here? Helen Thomas' cooter scrapings.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2013 02:21 PM (p9JxP)

112 plate o' shrimp

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 04, 2013 02:21 PM (V4CBV)

113 Do you know the #1 reasons why Democrats like obama lose favor with Dumb People?

Because they dont go far enough. Not enough free shit. And the opposition has not been wiped out.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 04, 2013 06:14 PM (JKuh

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Whoa whoa whoa! Tone it down. There's way too much truth in that statement.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 02:22 PM (9sMM9)

114 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2013 06:19 PM (olDqf)

Cobalt-60 isn't the worst stuff around. I think a lead box would prevent anything from escaping. They use it in hospitals.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2013 02:22 PM (oJ5Fd)

115

"Cobalt 60."
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No thanks. I have my own '40. I'm good

Posted by: LaTron Sylvester Washington at December 04, 2013 02:22 PM (jucos)

116 Young people don't want 'more affordable' anything. They want Free. And when it turned out that obamacare wasn't free, the young people got sad.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 04, 2013 02:23 PM (JKuh8)

117 thieves; it's ok folks, we just wanted to have some fun

hold my beer.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:23 PM (nqBYe)

118 Is the cobalt-60 medical waste?

Posted by: no good deed at December 04, 2013 02:23 PM (HsJeN)

119 http://tinyurl.com/nxy2tsy

Billy Crystal does Edgar G.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 04, 2013 02:23 PM (DL2i+)

120 The only important thing about sinking polls is that they won't lend any plausibility to the rampant vote fraud planned by the Democrats.

Posted by: toby928© at December 04, 2013 02:23 PM (QupBk)

121 FoxNews report said it was waste from a hospital being transported to a disposal site when it was stolen.

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 04, 2013 02:23 PM (ZPrif)

122 101 Starvation and death change more opinions than anything else.

Posted by: toby928Â© at December 04, 2013 06:19 PM (QupBk)

Until the generations that experience it pass away...then we start all over again. Not even that long sometimes.

Heck, we couldn't even get 10 years past 9/11 without putting a Hussein in the White House.

Posted by: Havedash at December 04, 2013 02:23 PM (ToMJU)

123 I'm not seeing it, but the only people I know in meatspace in that age group are either making good money with employer/union health insurance, or totally funded by Mommy. Mostly totally funded by Mommy.

Posted by: ElvisRadish at December 04, 2013 02:23 PM (/kI1Q)

124 I don't live in fear of a dirty bomb.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 04, 2013 02:24 PM (jucos)

125 There is still one very venomous snake Dear Leader hasn't pulled out of the sack yet: Student loan forgiveness.

If he does that, all bets are off.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 06:08 PM (9sMM9)

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And they are holding $600 billion of student loan debt on the balance sheet at Treasury.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 04, 2013 02:24 PM (HubSo)

126 yeah, there are not many purposes the material could be used for.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 06:21 PM (nqBYe)

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Maybe back-alley, black market doctors are saving it for future radiation treatments. Yeah. That's it.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 02:24 PM (9sMM9)

127 The 18-25 yr old cohort in Virginia actually voted for Cuccinelli. (The 25-34 cohort went for McSleaze.) Interesting. Maybe the younger you are, the more easily you are disillusioned. I dunno. Given that many, perhaps most, of these "kids" are on mom-and-dad's insurance, you wouldn't expect Obamacare to be the big issue. Then again, even if it doesn't affect them immediately and directly, I would expect "kids" that age to be especially scornful of the government screwing up the website. 18-25 is when a lot of students graduate and have to start j-o-b-s. And they find out that utilities and gas and food aren't free.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 04, 2013 02:24 PM (dfYL9)

128 "Cobalt 60."

Add in a little pthalo yellow, load it on your fan brush, and there's a happy little tree lives right over here.

Posted by: ElvisRadish at December 04, 2013 02:25 PM (/kI1Q)

129 "121 FoxNews report said it was waste from a hospital being transported to a disposal site when it was stolen." So either an inside job or someone was bought off for info.

Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2013 02:25 PM (hFL/3)

130 some other hospital just needed it to sterilize some medical equipment.

hospitals are suffering for more freed up funds you know.

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:26 PM (nqBYe)

131 Student loan forgiveness.

If he does that, all bets are off.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 06:08 PM (9sMM9)

But that is a one-time-windfall. it's not really an ongoing free-stuff program.

I wonder how much of an effect it would have?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2013 02:26 PM (oJ5Fd)

132 Soons, i like that idea better.

people Are innately good!

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 02:27 PM (nqBYe)

133 Bailing out Detroit,Illinois,California.....

Posted by: steevy at December 04, 2013 02:27 PM (zqvg6)

134 So either an inside job or someone was bought off for info.

Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2013 06:25 PM (hFL/3)

Or somebody just stole a truck.

Truckers sometimes leave the engine running...it might have been a crime of opportunity.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2013 02:27 PM (oJ5Fd)

135 But that is a one-time-windfall. it's not really an ongoing free-stuff program.

You don't think they'll hide the "right" to take out new interest-free, no-punishment-for-non-repayment loans in perpetuity in there somewhere?

Posted by: ElvisRadish at December 04, 2013 02:28 PM (/kI1Q)

136 But Mexico has been an anti-religious socialist state since the 1920s. How could they have problems like drug cartels and missing Cobalt 60? I refuse to believe this counterrevolutionary propaganda.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 04, 2013 02:28 PM (zeV2E)

137

You stupid racist wingers....With 404care fully implemented, this kind of thing would never happen! Hospitals won't have the need to dispose of radioactive waste! Enroll now!

Posted by: Havedash at December 04, 2013 02:29 PM (ToMJU)

138 76 Just wait until these White House Youth learn that they are REQUIRED BY LAW to sign up for ObamaCare. Most still think it's optional, and that they choose not to do it because it's a bad deal. Once they find out they MUST buy the bad deal, support for ObamaCare will drop even further. Posted by: zombie at December 04, 2013 06:14 PM (+cx5n) ---------------------------- THIS. The young and the old, in my observation, are very touchy about you MUST.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 04, 2013 02:29 PM (dfYL9)

139 When was the last time kids under 25 gave a shit about anything? They knew all along who would pay for this shit.

Posted by: dumbartist at December 04, 2013 02:29 PM (ahBY0)

140 Isn't Cobalt 60 a new Malt Liquor? I will have to ask my good friend Billy Dee Williams.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at December 04, 2013 02:29 PM (jucos)

141 "Or somebody just stole a truck. Truckers sometimes leave the engine running...it might have been a crime of opportunity." But if that were the case why would the container be empty?

Posted by: Lauren at December 04, 2013 02:29 PM (hFL/3)

142 Your move senator Cruz.

Posted by: Mr. Powerstroke Super Duty 4X4 King Ranch Edition at December 04, 2013 02:30 PM (EZYc8)

143 The pic of Martin Bashir on the Fox news page looks like a mugshot. Probably the time he got picked up trying to shit in a woman's mouth.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 04, 2013 02:30 PM (oFCZn)

144 As a baby boomer, my moment of clarity came in Vietnam when I found out that there really was little people in the forest that wanted to kill me.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 06:17 PM (9sMM9)

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Similar story here. I think the great TR Fehrenbach put it best, in This Kind of War, chapter 25 (Proud Legions): "For his own sake and for that of those around him, a man must be prepared for the awful, shrieking moment of truth when he realizes he is all alone on a hill ten thousand miles from his home, and that he may be killed in the next second."

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 04, 2013 02:31 PM (HubSo)

145 >>Or somebody just stole a truck. >>Truckers sometimes leave the engine running...it might have been a crime of opportunity. Possibly. But someone knew enough to crack open what looks like a pretty heavy duty container and stealing Cobalt. Sounds like they would have to be prepared to do something like that.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 04, 2013 02:31 PM (g1DWB)

146 It would be awesome if CNN or MSNBC signed up Mark Steyn for a one-hour show.

Posted by: mrp at December 04, 2013 02:31 PM (HjPtV)

147 Soons, i like that idea better.

people Are innately good!

Posted by: willow at December 04, 2013 06:27 PM (nqBYe)

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Yes. Yes they are. *gives shotgun a soft caress*

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 02:32 PM (9sMM9)

148 But that is a one-time-windfall. it's not really an ongoing free-stuff program. It's a couple of hundred a month for years that the yutes won't have to pay out. Their gratitude could last an election or two.

Posted by: toby928© at December 04, 2013 02:32 PM (QupBk)

149 Years ago, didn't some cnn reporter get mugged in the park while he was in drag? It was sort of a big deal then plus they tried to cover it up.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 04, 2013 02:32 PM (kkbgQ)

150 "146 It would be awesome if CNN or MSNBC signed up Mark Steyn for a one-hour show." This occurred on Bizarro Earth or one of those alternate Earths in the DC universe.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 04, 2013 02:33 PM (zeV2E)

151 143 yr killin me...

Posted by: dumbartist at December 04, 2013 02:33 PM (ahBY0)

152 As a baby boomer, my moment of clarity came in Vietnam when I found out that there really was little people in the forest that wanted to kill me. ------------------------------------------------------ Yeah, our end of the Baby Boom did not get any of that. In fact, we did not even have to register for the draft. Sorry you had to go through that mess, brother. But thanks for being there to draw the line for us. If you had not been there, a lot of really bad stuff was awaiting us around the world had we not made Communist expansion a costly, painful proposition for them.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 04, 2013 02:33 PM (K7P9U)

153 - Even the slowest boats eventually reach the river's bank. -------------------------------------------- I am forced to disagree.

Posted by: SS Sultana at December 04, 2013 02:33 PM (DtNNC)

154 This losing the youth thing will be nothing compared to what happens when they lose a big chunk of the womyn voters. Shit status will definitely be real when a bunch of them lose access to their minge doctors.

Posted by: Countrysquire at December 04, 2013 02:34 PM (EZYc8)

155 Wait until they lose their tax refund.

Ha, ha MF'ers.

"Welcome to H&R Block. How can I help you?"
"Uh, I'd like to file my taxes. Gonna need that refund to pay for a sweet PS4!"
"Great, let's get started. And once we calculate your refund we can even give you a check today."
"Alright!"
***
"Do you have your proof of insurance with you?"
"No."
"Oooh."
***
"Ok, all done. Looks like, after assessment of the personal responsibility portion of you health care costs, you owe $573. You'll need to send that check in when you mail in your return."
"Wait! What?!!!"

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 04, 2013 02:34 PM (VjL9S)

156 112 plate o' shrimp
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 04, 2013 06:21 PM (V4CBV)
Did a lot of acid in the hippie days?

Posted by: Otto at December 04, 2013 02:35 PM (BrrWI)

157 Thieves can be pretty stupid about what they pinch. Someone stole one of my plastic pink flamingo lawn ornaments years ago...and left the brand new $30 heavy duty garden hose. Go figure.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at December 04, 2013 02:35 PM (L0b3J)

158 We expect fish any day now. Lots and lots of fish.

Posted by: The 46 Percenters at December 04, 2013 02:35 PM (8ZskC)

159 To get that slow boat moving, you got to rock the little man in the boat.

Posted by: Experienced Boat Rocker at December 04, 2013 02:36 PM (nbGZj)

160 As a baby boomer, my moment of clarity came AFTER the US left Vietnam. I had never been a leftist and was never sympathetic to the anti-war types, but I actually believed they were sincere. I thought they really cared about the poor peasants of SE Asia. Then came the boat people, the killing fields ---and the crickets or, worse yet, the SHUT UPs. From there I went on to recognize that they didn't care about ANY of the groups they supposedly were liberating and helping.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 04, 2013 02:36 PM (dfYL9)

161 "Even the slowest boats eventually reach the river's bank." Sinking to the bottom is also an option.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 04, 2013 02:36 PM (zeV2E)

162 150 "146 It would be awesome if CNN or MSNBC signed up Mark Steyn for a one-hour show."
This occurred on Bizarro Earth or one of those alternate Earths in the DC universe.
Posted by: Naes1984 at December 04, 2013 06:33 PM (zeV2E)
Like back in the day when MSNBC had Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson?

Posted by: Otto at December 04, 2013 02:38 PM (BrrWI)

163 We expect fish any day now. Lots and lots of fish.

Posted by: The 46 Percenters at December 04, 2013 06:35 PM (8ZskC)

Look for delivery soon after you get your unicorn.

Posted by: Retread at December 04, 2013 02:38 PM (IiAs3)

164 Raymond Pritchett ‏@Galrahn Only two types of people steal Cobolt-60, really stupid people, or really smart people. I wouldn't bet on stupid.

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 04, 2013 02:38 PM (ZPrif)

165 If it is medical waste is it still usable for nefarious purposes? What sort of nefarious purposes do you use it for anyway?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 04, 2013 02:39 PM (RZ8pf)

166 162 150 "146 It would be awesome if CNN or MSNBC signed up Mark Steyn for a one-hour show." This occurred on Bizarro Earth or one of those alternate Earths in the DC universe. Posted by: Naes1984 at December 04, 2013 06:33 PM (zeV2E) Like back in the day when MSNBC had Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham and Tucker Carlson?" That's a pre-O revolution mentality, brother. It may as well be before the fall of Rome. There's no going back. Forward! Or something.

Posted by: Naes1984 at December 04, 2013 02:40 PM (zeV2E)

167 Someone stole one of my plastic pink flamingo lawn ornaments years ago..

That's drunken antics first.

The lady with a short haircut down the street had a pink flamingo dressed up as a turkey on the lawn for Thanksgiving. I LOLd

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 04, 2013 02:41 PM (DL2i+)

168 152 In fact, we did not even have to register for the draft.

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I was not required to register, then I was on active duty when registration started again, so I never registered. Signing up for student loans at 30, I was supposed to certify that I had registered. I wrote a letter saying why it was impossible to register (because I was already on active duty and had been for 12 years) and that was good enough for the lender. But I did try to register then. I got a letter back from SSS thanking me for my patriotism but telling me I was too old to register. It's just a good thing the lender had some common sense.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 04, 2013 02:41 PM (HubSo)

169 165 If it is medical waste is it still usable for nefarious purposes? What sort of nefarious purposes do you use it for anyway? Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 04, 2013 06:39 PM (RZ8pf) It seems that cobalt 60 is the favorite radioactive material for tv writers to use in any plot involving a dirty bomb.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 04, 2013 02:41 PM (Ni+Zy)

170 Raymond Pritchett Ã¾@Galrahn
Only two types of people steal Cobolt-60, really stupid people, or really smart people. I wouldn't bet on stupid.

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 04, 2013 06:38 PM (ZPrif)

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Nothing is just coincidence anymore.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 02:42 PM (9sMM9)

171 Hey PGiS. You and I both know that you can only use "nefarious " in a post once a month, and you try to do it twice. In one post. Really?

Posted by: Countrysquire at December 04, 2013 02:44 PM (EZYc8)

172 crap on the cobalt 60. If the news I read was right it was from outdated medical imaging equipment and not just low-level medical waste. Only two things I can think one would do with that after stealing it. 1) demand a ransom or 2) commit some kind of terrorist act. OK pollyanna 3) contaminate a site, i.e. sacred that you just want to keep people away from.

Posted by: palerider at December 04, 2013 02:44 PM (dkExz)

173 It's like the other post, "If they imagine it, it must be true", as in games and such. I think there's more to that than I think. At 59 I'm not the oldest or youngest here but there was a time when you had to actually back up what you said or someone would call you on it...like in truth...is that gone now because of what?

Posted by: dumbartist at December 04, 2013 02:46 PM (ahBY0)

174 On the brightside, the half-life of Cobalt 60 is less than six years.

Posted by: toby928© at December 04, 2013 02:47 PM (QupBk)

175 Hey PGiS. You and I both know that you can only use "nefarious " in a post once a month, and you try to do it twice. In one post. Really?

Posted by: Countrysquire at December 04, 2013 06:44 PM (EZYc

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I don't think her intention was nefarious.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 02:47 PM (9sMM9)

176 I would like to own an actual conservative news network. I'd have a "Crossfire" type show with Steyn and Levin. It would be called "Right and Righter".

Posted by: Countrysquire at December 04, 2013 02:48 PM (EZYc8)

177 On the brightside, the half-life of Cobalt 60 is less than six years.

Posted by: toby928Â© at December 04, 2013 06:47 PM (QupBk)

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Oh, good. So we shouldn't expect anything bad to happen until the end of Dear Leader's term.

Posted by: Soona at December 04, 2013 02:49 PM (9sMM9)

178 Be happy it's not selenium 79.

Posted by: toby928© at December 04, 2013 02:49 PM (QupBk)

179 Obama is who my dumbass older sister voted for. - 18yo girl

Posted by: Bigby's Boxing Gloves at December 04, 2013 02:57 PM (RLTt1)

180 A Harvard study that tracks the attitudes of young voters (and, I guess, the #WHYouth) finds that they've gone sour on Obama. Quick, put out some more Brosurance ads!,

Posted by: Carlos Dangerfield at December 04, 2013 03:16 PM (m0le6)

181 Among 18-to-29-year-olds currently without health insurance, less than one-third say they're likely to enroll in the Obamacare exchanges. Just for insult, let them get hit with the penalty that the IRS will collect the day they get refunds, then remind them why they got penalized.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 04, 2013 04:22 PM (VVsZ2)

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