March 20, 2014

A Little Of This. A Little Of That.
— DrewM

In case you missed it last night, I did a podcast with Marc Marano of Climate Depot on the economics and politics of the "Climate change" movement.


There's some satellite imagery of debris in the Indian Ocean that might be part of the missing Malaysian Air flight.


Obama announced some more sanctions on individual Russians and a bank. He also told Putin that if Russia is willing to totally change its worldview this Ukraine thing can all work out in the end for everyone. I'm sure Putin is thrilled with the offer.


Jennifer Rubin used to think the GOP needed to do outreach to non-traditional voters. Then Rand Paul did it by going to Berkeley and now Rubin thinks it's a terrible idea. The problem is Paul talked about things liberals might agree with him, for example his opposition to domestic surveillance. Rubin would have preferred this outreach consist of Paul talking about things like support for traditional marriage (which Rubin disagrees with) that liberals would have hated.

It's pretty clear that Rubin's "ideological purity" tests for candidates will be the ruin of the GOP.

Say what you will about Paul's stance on a given issue but he's a smart politician. He tries to find ways to allow people to support him. Even if they don't buy everything he's selling, he tries to give them a bridge to vote for him. That seems like smart politics to me.

You know, it's almost as if Rubin is a hack who will say anything and bend herself into a pretzel to protect her beloved liberal Republicans (so long as they agree to BOMB ALL THE PLACES!).

Almost.

Open thread.

Posted by: DrewM at 07:41 AM | Comments (278)
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1 I'm soooo ready!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 20, 2014 07:42 AM (GjPnA)

2 Are you?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 20, 2014 07:42 AM (GjPnA)

3 Fred Phelps is meeting Satan as we type...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 20, 2014 07:43 AM (jsWA8)

4 Jennifer who?

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 20, 2014 07:43 AM (eytER)

5 I'm ready
Are you?
___

Stop being so bossy.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 20, 2014 07:44 AM (78TbK)

6 I like Rand Paul enough to vote for him given the opportunity.  He seems to mostly get the big things right, and he inspires the confidence that he'll do something about it. 

Posted by: shillelagh at March 20, 2014 07:44 AM (hRzu2)

7 Jennifer Rubin is no Jennifer Garner, I'll tell you that.

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 20, 2014 07:44 AM (JQuNB)

8 3 Fred Phelps is meeting Satan as we type...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 20, 2014 11:43 AM (jsWA


What, seriously?


*checks*


I do not celebrate anyone's death, but I will admit to a great deal of relief, knowing that bastard is gone.


May his satanic cult die with him.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at March 20, 2014 07:44 AM (Y9x3L)

9
Just more evidence that the "moderate" GOPers who cry for the "Big Tent" actually just want people to agree with their particular point of view.

They are just lacking sufficient self-awareness to be able to know this.

Posted by: dan-O at March 20, 2014 07:44 AM (D0bIN)

10

You know, it's almost as if Rubin is a hack who will say anything and bend herself into a pretzel to protect her beloved liberal Republicans (so long as they agree to BOMB ALL THE PLACES!).

There are hack public commentators who will say anything to protect the GOPe?

Where would one find such people?

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at March 20, 2014 07:45 AM (5ikDv)

11 Obama said in an interview on Wednesday that there is currently no military option being considered to respond to Russia's action. "But what we can do is stand up for principle, stand by the Ukrainian people," Wow. Thanks for 'standing by'.

Posted by: The Ukrainian People at March 20, 2014 07:45 AM (FcR7P)

12 It's almost as  though  Putin doesn't realize that Obama won the election.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 20, 2014 07:45 AM (eytER)

13 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 20, 2014 07:45 AM (PYAXX)

14 There's some satellite imagery of debris in the Indian Ocean that might be part of the missing Malaysian Air flight. Those are my guns. I dropped them overboard.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 20, 2014 07:45 AM (7ObY1)

15 From my Facebook feed: "Breaking news: Obama just defriended Putin on facebook."

Posted by: Roy at March 20, 2014 07:45 AM (VndSC)

16 I've got good news and bad news Fred.

The good news is you were right, God isn't keen on gay marriage. The bad news is that he also doesn't support you being a goddamned ghoul

Oh, and the worse news? We are quite ok with gay marriage down here, let me introduce you to your husband, Adolf...

Posted by: Satan introducing Phelps to Hell at March 20, 2014 07:46 AM (78TbK)

17 Thanks for 'standing by'.

Red Diaper, standing by.

Posted by: Barry Obama at March 20, 2014 07:46 AM (FrfNj)

18 Obama and Russia. He's an operator who's standing by. That should work out well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 20, 2014 07:47 AM (XyM/Y)

19 Hey Bill, it's good to know that you can pry yourself off an intern long enough to call me bossy...

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 20, 2014 07:47 AM (GjPnA)

20 Fred Phelps, meet your new bunkmate, Ted Kennedy. You'll be rooming next to Herr Hitler. Enjoy your extra-hot corner of eternal damnation, motherfucker.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 20, 2014 07:47 AM (7ObY1)

21 "But what we can do is stand up for principle, stand by the Ukrainian people,"

and with that and 19.99 you can get the commemorative Obama inauguration plate!

Posted by: Obama inauguration.com at March 20, 2014 07:47 AM (78TbK)

22 Under what Authority is the US President seizing the Assets of Russian Private Citizens, without any Court Proceeding? Note, the Constitution's 5th Amendment says 'NO PERSON'... not no Citizen.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2014 07:47 AM (84gbM)

23 I wonder how many confuse Rand Paul with Ron Paul? Not a good association.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 20, 2014 07:47 AM (A98Xu)

24 What, Fred? You don't like being pounded up the ass? Well, you're gonna hate Thursdays...

Posted by: Satan's Punch Line at March 20, 2014 07:47 AM (JQuNB)

25 "But what we can do is stand up for principle, stand by the Ukrainian people,"

we will make american shoe companies send you all their last years un bought shoes.
Everyone should have a nice pair of shoes.

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 07:48 AM (nqBYe)

26 The SCOAMF is a gutless pussy.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 07:48 AM (DrWcr)

27 This whole Ukraine thing is another reason our "take & occupy" method of warring is flawed. If we used the old "smash & tell them never to do that again" method of doing war, we'd have a nice fresh (and yet still experienced) fighting force ready and able to defend Ukraine. Even just having the force available would probably make it unnecessary.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 20, 2014 07:48 AM (PYAXX)

28 This Jennifer Rubin es muy bossy, no?

Posted by: Citizen X at March 20, 2014 07:48 AM (7ObY1)

29 God forbid anyone ever disagree with anyone else.  That is a sure sign of ideological something or another and must be stamped out, with neither ruth nor pity.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 20, 2014 07:48 AM (hLRSq)

30 bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 20, 2014 07:48 AM (V4CBV)

31 Under what Authority is the US President seizing the Assets of Russian Private Citizens, without any Court Proceeding?
***
Under the pen and phone enabling legislation of 2012...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2014 07:48 AM (78TbK)

32 Jennifer Rubin is conservative in much the same way that I am Scarlet Johanssen.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 20, 2014 07:50 AM (659DL)

33 "But what we can do is stand up for principle, stand by the Ukrainian people," Wow. Thanks for 'standing by'. Posted by: The Ukrainian People at March 20, 2014 11:45 AM (FcR7P) Hmmmm.... standing by.... to paraphrase an old Navy Saying... Obama... he is like a Fan... stand in front of him? he blows... stand behind him? he sucks... Stand beside him, and he doesn't do a damn thing for you....

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2014 07:50 AM (84gbM)

34 Mikey.

appeasing Rhino!

Stupido Purity Jerk!

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 07:50 AM (nqBYe)

35 It's barbed, Fred. But not for your pleasure.

Posted by: Satan at March 20, 2014 07:50 AM (RD7QR)

36 Jennifer Rubin is a liberal scrunt who writes for WaPo. Why should any Republican listen to anything she says?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 20, 2014 07:50 AM (T2V/1)

37 21 "But what we can do is stand up for principle, stand by the Ukrainian people,"


and with that and 19.99 you can get the commemorative Obama inauguration plate!

Posted by: Obama inauguration.com at March 20, 2014 11:47 AM (78TbK)

 

We are now accepting callers for these pendant keychains.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 07:50 AM (DrWcr)

38 It's pretty clear that Rubin's "ideological purity" tests for candidates will be the ruin of the GOP. NO: It's pretty clear Rubin is scared of what a lot of us are scared of: Rand's isolationism and Anti-Military bend, and his not falling to far from the daddy tree.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 07:51 AM (t3UFN)

39 Definition of "conflicted": A gay person being asked to photograph a cake at Phelp's funeral.

Posted by: Roy at March 20, 2014 07:51 AM (VndSC)

40

Mikey.

appeasing Rhino!

Stupido Purity Jerk!

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 11:50 AM (nqBYe)

 

That's Appeasing Rhino, Esq.  I didn't spend three years in Sellout Law School to just be a mister, thank you very much!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 20, 2014 07:51 AM (hLRSq)

41 We are now accepting callers for these pendant keychains.
***
Best song about a US president ever...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4yvvCv79QY

Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2014 07:52 AM (78TbK)

42 It's axiomatic that whatever Jennifer Rubin thinks is a terrible idea ipso facto MUST be brilliant. Screw her.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2014 07:52 AM (olDqf)

43 We will stand by the Ukranian people just as we do  for our most favored american citizens!

or send you some  token amt  of money taken from those disgusting corporate pigs and their stupid workforces.

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 07:52 AM (nqBYe)

44
Let me guess, Rubin wants to ride in the mashed potato car on the Christie gravy train.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 20, 2014 07:52 AM (0Kobm)

45 Rand would do himself a favor by making a non-ambiguous foreign policy speech. He'll have to lay it out completely if he wants to run for president.

Posted by: joncelli at March 20, 2014 07:52 AM (RD7QR)

46

@34

 

So, how you doing?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (GjPnA)

47 I've still not had anyone explain to me how it's legal for the Preezy of th United Steezy to seize the assets of    individual Russians kept here in the United States.    Unless they've broken the law,   how is this even close to legal?   And if they've broken the law, why are they only now having their accounts frozen?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (4df7R)

48 555 my daughters cancer doc is down to a bare bones practice. i don't think this is going to work out well . Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 11:34 AM (nqBYe) Thoughts and prayers for you and your daughter.

Posted by: ExSnipe at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (LKJt3)

49

Great.  We're standing    by.

 

I envision an empty room, with a television monitor  broadcasting a sparse image -   "Please Stand    By"

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (AskuI)

50 Ms. Rubin, why don't you stop worrying about Rand Paul and get back to what you really want to do--tongue-bathing Chris Christie daily until the 2016 election.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (sQ0LB)

51 NO: It's pretty clear Rubin is scared of what a lot of us are scared of: Rand's isolationism and Anti-Military bend, and his not falling to far from the daddy tree.
***
If the choice is a raving isolationist Rand Paul or another establishment Republican I know who I am voting for, and it isn't John McRomney Bush the third...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (78TbK)

52 There's some satellite imagery of debris in the Indian Ocean that might be part of the missing Malaysian Air flight. Or not.

Posted by: rickl at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (zoehZ)

53 Although that said, I tend to think Rand is wrong on foreign policy, Amnesty and his support of Mitch McCocksickle. So squirrels, nuts, broken clocks and whatnot...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (olDqf)

54 Screw her. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2014 11:52 AM (olDqf) Well I am horny. What does she look like?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (t3UFN)

55 Relax folks, that's not Global Warming. It's just "Welcome Home, Fred Phelps" day, here at work.

Posted by: Satan and his minions at March 20, 2014 07:53 AM (VndSC)

56 Because no modern Democrat can be credible on this, some Republican presidential candidate will have to explain the high price of America's fatigue. Fatigue will allow global disorder to displace 60 years of democratic order. If the U.S. doesn't lead, the strongmen win because for them it's easier. They don't lead people; they coerce them. Ask the millions free for now in the old countries of the Iron Curtain.

Posted by: Waldo at March 20, 2014 07:54 AM (e8kgV)

57

Rand's isolationism and Anti-Military bend, and his not falling to far from the daddy tree.

 

----------

 

Rand Paul did campaign for his dad back in the primaries.  As I recall he was kind of a pest about it too...told Sean Hannity he had some breaking news, Hannity talked it up, then when Rand gets on the air he starts talking about how he's writing a letter to support Ron Paul for President.

 

 

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 20, 2014 07:54 AM (eytER)

58 52 There's some satellite imagery of debris in the Indian Ocean that might be part of the missing Malaysian Air flight. Or not. Posted by: rickl at March 20, 2014 11:53 AM (zoehZ) It's a volleyball with a bloody handprint that looks like a faceÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2014 07:54 AM (olDqf)

59 Don't push me, Vlad, or you won't get any NCAA tournament coverage! I can think of no greater sanction...

Posted by: Barry Zero at March 20, 2014 07:54 AM (FcR7P)

60 Mikey, i find it prudent to look at my lap or  water frogs in tank,  or pictures of funny things when the room is warring.

also a kevlar suit and hard hat  might come in handy.

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 07:54 AM (nqBYe)

61 54 Screw her. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2014 11:52 AM (olDqf) Well I am horny. What does she look like? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 11:53 AM (t3UFN) Not sure, but here caricature ain't no oil painting, I can tell you that much.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2014 07:54 AM (olDqf)

62 If the choice is a raving isolationist Rand Paul or another establishment Republican I know who I am voting for, and it isn't John McRomney Bush the third... Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2014 11:53 AM (78TbK) Sounds like the choice of seating at one of my family dinners like thanksgiving or passover?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 07:54 AM (t3UFN)

63 50 Ms. Rubin, why don't you stop worrying about Rand Paul and get back to what you really want to do--tongue-bathing Chris Christie daily until the 2016 election.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 20, 2014 11:53 AM (sQ0LB)

 

Well if she doesn't start back up soon she'll never finish by 2016.

Posted by: buzzion at March 20, 2014 07:55 AM (LI48c)

64 Rand actually managed to accomplish something, without doing things the Rove way. Of course they hate him.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 20, 2014 07:55 AM (49lPc)

65 and must be stamped out, with neither ruth nor pity. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy Four Outrages, get a Rightous Indignation Free! at March 20, 2014 11:48 AM (hLRSq) --------- A chick named Ruth once pity-banged me.

Posted by: some pitiful dude at March 20, 2014 07:55 AM (KNA3E)

66 It's a volleyball with a bloody handprint that looks like a faceÂ…


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2014 11:54 AM (olDqf)

 

WIIIIILSOOOONNNN!!!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 07:55 AM (DrWcr)

67 Reporter to Rand Paul: "Are you as crazy as your father?"

Posted by: Seems legit at March 20, 2014 07:55 AM (A98Xu)

68 He also told Putin that if Russia is willing to totally change its worldview this Ukraine thing can all work out in the end for everyone.


We were talking about "Die Hard" on the last thread, and    it applies here, too.     I mentioned    there that, whenever I see Obammy,    one of the first images taht subconsciously comes to mind is that   yuppie   asshole  who tries to   "negotiate"   with   Hans.    That    guy    IS Obammy.    Narcissistic,     egotistical,   delusional about his own abilities,   and   an enormous, flaming coke head.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 07:56 AM (4df7R)

69
Remember when Oblather stood with the Iranian Student Uprising?

Good luck Ukraine.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 20, 2014 07:56 AM (0Kobm)

70 You racists said nothing when the brave progressive President Jimmy Carter seized Iranian assets, including the personal ones of the Shah, in 1979. Is it only bad when a BLACK PROGRESSIVE does it? You can't HANDLE his strong leadership.

Before this is over, Vladmir Putin will be revealed as a bitch.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at March 20, 2014 07:56 AM (Hvsud)

71 It's almost as though Putin doesn't realize that Obama won the election. Doesn't care.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 07:56 AM (KvM9d)

72 Well I am horny. What does she look like? [digs up photo on Bing...] Uglier than a hat full of ***holes.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at March 20, 2014 07:57 AM (PMGbu)

73

Before this is over, Vladmir Putin will be revealed as a bitch.

 

 

----

 

That will make two.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 20, 2014 07:57 AM (AskuI)

74 Some kid got through supposedly "iron clad" security to the top of the freedom tower. The sleeping security guard, non union, was fired. The elevator operator, union, who took him up the still under construction tower was not. The kid was found by construction workers after spending about 2 hours with free reign of the building.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 20, 2014 07:57 AM (RZ8pf)

75 We were talking about "Die Hard" on the last thread, and it applies here, too. I mentioned there that, whenever I see Obammy, one of the first images taht subconsciously comes to mind is that yuppie asshole who tries to "negotiate" with Hans. That guy IS Obammy. Narcissistic, egotistical, delusional about his own abilities, and an enormous, flaming coke head.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 20, 2014 11:56 AM (4df7R)

 

Hey Vlad!  Sprechen sie talk, huh?

Posted by: Barack "Ellis" Obama at March 20, 2014 07:57 AM (DrWcr)

76 Mary, we just adored Jimmy Carter!

uh hmm.

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 07:57 AM (nqBYe)

77 He seems to mostly get the big things right, and he inspires the confidence that he'll do something about it. Posted by: shillelagh at March 20, 2014 11:44 AM --- Not to pick on you, specifically, but what exactly has he accomplished that gives you confidence that he can or will do something effective about national issues?

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 07:57 AM (zDsvJ)

78 We're "standing by" the Ukrainians and pointing at them. "Hey, Vlad, those are the guys who took your lunch!"

Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (FcR7P)

79 Under what Authority is the US President seizing the Assets of Russian Private Citizens, without any Court Proceeding? Note, the Constitution's 5th Amendment says 'NO PERSON'... not no Citizen. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2014 11:47 AM (84gbM) Thank you.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (MIKMs)

80 someone needs to load nevergiveup's puter with porn for those especially needy days.

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (nqBYe)

81 If my choice in 2016 is between an Obama-style democrat who only pretends to care about foreign policy, and a Paul-style republican who argues that we shouldn't care about foreign policy, I'll probably be sleeping in on that Tuesday.

I don't think there's anything we can do about Ukraine now, besides all the rebuild-our-economy Presnident Zero refuses to do as a matter of course, but I do think we should have, and should be doing, something to counter the continuing colonization of Venezuela by old-style communists(!) aligned with Russia, Iran, and China. It's all a bunch of old-style 17th century Mercantilism where China gets to buy $ 50/bbl or whatever the amount is oil in Venezuela, sells the products made out of that oil in the United States at markups to match the 100/bbl price it would cost us to make the stuff, and the Venezuelans get empty store shelves, ration numbers, and Cuban shooters on motorcycles enforcing it all.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (kwc/t)

82 Not surprised that DrewM would prefer Ron Paul over Rubin. Also not surprised that he is illogically comparing a politician to a pundit. Finally not surprised that he accuses others of doing exactly what he does.

Posted by: Kosher Sizer at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (ODaO0)

83 Heh. Apparently Phelps was excommunicated from his own church late last year under...unclear circumstances. One wonders if they will be at the funeral...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (naUcP)

84 Fred Phelps is meeting Satan as we type... Posted by: CSMBigBird Wiki already updated. Dayum.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (KvM9d)

85 75 Hey Vlad! Sprechen sie talk, huh? Posted by: Barack "Ellis" Obama at March 20, 2014 11:57 AM (DrWcr) Droppen zee dead!!! Always mit der vize-crakerz!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (olDqf)

86 Oh, and while I don't usually make it a habit to celebrate anyone's death,   I have no problem making an exception in the case of Fred Phelps.    Rot in    Hell, prick.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (4df7R)

87 Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at March 20, 2014 11:56 AM (Hvsud) In 1979, I was in the process of Joining the US Navy, and in boot camp...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2014 07:58 AM (84gbM)

88 45 Rand would do himself a favor by making a non-ambiguous foreign policy speech. He'll have to lay it out completely if he wants to run for president.

Posted by: joncelli at March 20, 2014 11:52 AM (RD7QR)



I agree somewhat with his isolationism n that I think it is way past time for the US to quit spending blood and treasure trying to be the world's policeman.  I do however think where the US has a clear strategic interest that the us of the military must be done.  But I do not believe we should ever get involved with BS nation building.  And that goes double for these Muzzie shit holes.



And I would like to see his unequivocal position on amnesty and border control.  That one is one of my 3 make or break issues.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 20, 2014 08:00 AM (T2V/1)

89 83 Heh. Apparently Phelps was excommunicated from his own church late last year under...unclear circumstances. One wonders if they will be at the funeral... --- Which reminds me... One of the first comments at another site I post at on the Phelps article was "Can we protest his funeral?"

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 20, 2014 08:00 AM (APuJ7)

90 Not surprised that DrewM would prefer Ron Paul over Rubin. Also not surprised that he is illogically comparing a politician to a pundit. Finally not surprised that he accuses others of doing exactly what he does.

Posted by: Kosher Sizer at March 20, 2014 11:58 AM (ODaO0)



Not Ron,   Rand.  



Not comparing a politician to a pundit.   Comparing a pundit's    coverage    of one politician to her coverage of other politicians of    ostensibly the same party.



Read more.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:00 AM (4df7R)

91 I've still not had anyone explain to me how it's legal for the Preezy of th United Steezy to seize the assets of individual Russians kept here in the United States. Unless they've broken the law, how is this even close to legal? And if they've broken the law, why are they only now having their accounts frozen?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy

 

 

From what I've heard and read, both the Russians and the Ukraines on Obamas dreaded list did not have any assets in the US therefore a toothless gesture.  A Russian politician even mocked Obama on twitter about that.

Posted by: Cheri at March 20, 2014 08:00 AM (G+Wff)

92 41 We are now accepting callers for these pendant keychains.
***
Best song about a US president ever...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4yvvCv79QY

Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2014 11:52 AM (78TbK)

 

Cake released that song in '01, but it fit O'Bullshit's campaign perfectly.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 08:00 AM (DrWcr)

93 Remember when Oblather stood with the Iranian Student Uprising? Back when he fought for The Middle Class or when he stood by Chicago before the IOC?

Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2014 08:00 AM (FcR7P)

94 Posted by: Kosher Sizer at March 20, 2014 11:58 AM (ODaO0)

Ron or Rand?

They're different you know.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 20, 2014 08:00 AM (QFxY5)

95 >>64 Rand actually managed to accomplish something, What has he accomplished?

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:01 AM (zDsvJ)

96 We were talking about "Die Hard" on the last thread, and it applies here, too. I mentioned there that, whenever I see Obammy, one of the first images taht subconsciously comes to mind is that yuppie asshole who tries to "negotiate" with Hans. That guy IS Obammy. Narcissistic, egotistical, delusional about his own abilities, and an enormous, flaming coke head. --- I think I missed 60 Minutes... what are you telling me?

Posted by: Vladmir Putin at March 20, 2014 08:01 AM (APuJ7)

97 9 Dan-o, Jen "Bili" Rubin is what she's always been a scoamf sucking Donk agent-provactuer.... The GOP needs her and "butters" Frum like Putin needs "upworthy"

Posted by: sven10077 at March 20, 2014 08:01 AM (TE35l)

98 71 It's almost as though Putin doesn't realize that Obama won the election. Doesn't care. Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 11:56 AM (KvM9d) Because in Russia... Election Win YOU!!!

Posted by: Meme..... at March 20, 2014 08:01 AM (84gbM)

99 Off to lunch. Keep it nice.

Posted by: joncelli at March 20, 2014 08:01 AM (RD7QR)

100 Posted by: Kosher Sizer at March 20, 2014 11:58 AM (ODaO0) Hooboy, are you saying you agree with Rubin over Rand Paul?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 20, 2014 08:01 AM (A98Xu)

101 Off to lunch. Keep it nice.

Posted by: joncelli at March 20, 2014 12:01 PM (RD7QR)



Spoil sport!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:02 AM (4df7R)

102

Oh, and while I don't usually make it a habit to celebrate anyone's death, I have no problem making an exception in the case of Fred Phelps. Rot in Hell, prick.

 

What's the over / under on obituaries mentioning his membership in the "ultra-conservative Westboro Baptist Church?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2014 08:02 AM (zF6Iw)

103 What a joke. Australians announced they spotted the objects, what over 15 hours ago, and they still haven't confirmed it yet? oh, it's nighttime over there now, so they're all sleeping

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:02 AM (GiDKn)

104 I don't think there's anything we can do about Ukraine now,
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Well, he could announce he and our European "allies" have announced an initiative to remove all restrictions on energy production...

Hit Vlad in the pocketbook...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2014 08:02 AM (78TbK)

105
Moi?

Posted by: InnocentJenniferRubin at March 20, 2014 08:02 AM (BZAd3)

106 Russia Announces Entry Ban On American Lawmakers, WH Officials In Retaliation For U.S. SanctionsÂ…

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 08:02 AM (t3UFN)

107 Hmm... I have     homemade     chowder    for lunch today,   but I do not want to have to go heat it up in the ancient breakroom microwave    because   I'd rather sit here refreshing   the HQ   every five seconds.



You all have broken me.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:03 AM (4df7R)

108 Australians announced they spotted the objects, what over 15 hours ago, and they still haven't confirmed it yet? <<< Turns out it was just a floating empty Foster's oil-can.

Posted by: Satan and his minions at March 20, 2014 08:03 AM (VndSC)

109 oh, it's nighttime over there now, so they're all sleeping
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Who the hell answers the phone at 3 AM?

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 20, 2014 08:03 AM (78TbK)

110 Yeah I have no patience for the likes of Rubin. Anyone know when she came to the dance? I suspect it happened on 9/11. A lot of riff raff came in the door on that day and we've paid a price for it ever since.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 20, 2014 08:03 AM (oFCZn)

111 Australians announced they spotted the objects, what over 15 hours ago, and they still haven't confirmed it yet? It was 1,500 miles from Perth and it is storming out there in the Indian Ocean? You think that makes searching easy?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 08:03 AM (t3UFN)

112 I need to go to Zoolander's school for children who can't read good.

Posted by: Kosher Sizer at March 20, 2014 08:04 AM (ODaO0)

113 Russia Announces Entry Ban On American Lawmakers, WH Officials In Retaliation For U.S. SanctionsÂ…

and they all line up and say Pick Me!
pick me!

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 08:04 AM (nqBYe)

114 112 I need to go to Zoolander's school for children who can't read good. --- IS THIS A BUILDING FOR ANTS?!?

Posted by: Derek Zoolander at March 20, 2014 08:04 AM (APuJ7)

115 Ron or Rand? They're different you know. I have yet to be convinced of that.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 20, 2014 08:04 AM (SY2Kh)

116 What a joke. Australians announced they spotted the objects, what over 15 hours ago, and they still haven't confirmed it yet? oh, it's nighttime over there now, so they're all sleeping Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 12:02 PM (GiDKn) Bad weather.... and it takes awhile for Ships to get somewhere... Its a damn big ocean out there...

Posted by: Romeo13... Ex Aluminun Can Sailor at March 20, 2014 08:04 AM (84gbM)

117 112 I need to go to Zoolander's school for children who can't read good.

Posted by: Kosher Sizer at March 20, 2014 12:04 PM (ODaO0)

 

You can learn how to do other stuff good too.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 08:04 AM (DrWcr)

118 Take any more of the Ukraine and we will seriously consider reviewing the license of this NYC cabbie we found who has a Russian-sounding last name!

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 20, 2014 08:05 AM (FcR7P)

119 95 Y-not, Showing up & not being Jon Stewart's imaginary friend... It's a lot like the ghetto....we'll never make the sale if we don't show up...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 20, 2014 08:05 AM (TE35l)

120 let's take bets I say it's not the plane.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:05 AM (GiDKn)

121 The upcoming foreign policy debate will be about honoring our most serious security commitments to NATO, Japan, Philippines, and so on. It's not a philosophical debate in a vacuum.

Posted by: Beagle at March 20, 2014 08:05 AM (sOtz/)

122 I have yet to be convinced of that. Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 20, 2014 12:04 PM (SY2Kh) Yes.... sins of the Father and all....

Posted by: Romeo13... Ex Aluminun Can Sailor at March 20, 2014 08:05 AM (84gbM)

123 Green chili curried chicken with ancient grains. Tasty!

Posted by: Citizen X at March 20, 2014 08:05 AM (7ObY1)

124 Australians announced they spotted the objects, what over 15 hours ago, and they still haven't confirmed it yet?


Last   I heard, poor weather conditions in   that region of    the Indian Ocean     were slowing down operations,   and the Ozzie Air   Force  hadn't managed to narrow down the exact location of the wreckage, so it's still a fairly wide area.


All of that may have changed    since this morning, though.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:05 AM (4df7R)

125 Is there some record of accomplishment that Rand has of which I'm unaware?

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:05 AM (zDsvJ)

126 They couldn't muster a couple of jets and fly to the debris lickety-split?

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:06 AM (GiDKn)

127 you know, just to take a quick look-see?

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:06 AM (GiDKn)

128 They couldn't muster a couple of jets and fly to the debris lickety-split? Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 12:06 PM (GiDKn) In a storm?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 08:06 AM (t3UFN)

129 Anyone know when she came to the dance? I suspect it happened on 9/11. A lot of riff raff came in the door on that day and we've paid a price for it ever since. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 20, 2014 12:03 PM (oFCZn) Most cognizant statement on all the new "conservatives" who have shown up in the last decade. Yes, I think you have the right of it.

Posted by: All Doctors prior to Barry Marshall at March 20, 2014 08:06 AM (bb5+k)

130 Australians announced they spotted the objects, what over 15 hours ago, and they still haven't confirmed it yet? It was 1500 miles from land and it's the middle of the night.

Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2014 08:07 AM (FcR7P)

131 Cry Havoc, and let slip the Pajama Boys of Diplomacy!

Posted by: BHO at March 20, 2014 08:07 AM (DErq5)

132 The reason Rand's dad is a problem for him is that Rand himself has such a sparse public record and, of course, because he has not exactly spent a lot of effort distancing himself from his father's positions in most things.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:07 AM (zDsvJ)

133 They could just mention that there was a Tea Party reunion at the location coordinates of that supposed wreckage. NSA spy satellites would check it out then.

Posted by: Roy at March 20, 2014 08:08 AM (VndSC)

134 Is there some record of accomplishment that Rand has of which I'm unaware? Repub receiving standing O's at Berkeley?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 08:08 AM (KvM9d)

135 I have yet to be convinced of that. Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 20, 2014 12:04 PM (SY2Kh) I think many of us wonder.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 20, 2014 08:08 AM (A98Xu)

136 It wasn't the middle of the night 15+ hours ago.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:08 AM (GiDKn)

137 sooth, I read that there is cloud cover causing problems for them and, of course, things on the ocean tend to move. Haven't seen what the time-delay was between when the debris was spotted by satellite and the search efforts.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:08 AM (zDsvJ)

138 Paul may turn out to be a political genius.  Many on the left have got to be taking an introspective of what they have been told they believe in.  Some of them have to be asking themselves if it may be the idea of robot like mimicking of the party line on everything that is flawed, and not the idea of original thought.


There's evidence out there.

Posted by: InnocentJenniferRubin at March 20, 2014 08:09 AM (BZAd3)

139 Is there some record of accomplishment that Rand has of which I'm unaware?
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Yeah, no way can this guy get elected president with his sparse record!

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 20, 2014 08:09 AM (78TbK)

140 Repub receiving standing O's at Berkeley? Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 12:08 PM (KvM9d) -- Please tell me you're kidding.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:09 AM (zDsvJ)

141 129 Anyone know when she came to the dance? I suspect it happened on 9/11. A lot of riff raff came in the door on that day and we've paid a price for it ever since. Jharles Chonson. Luckily for us, he went back out through that door.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 20, 2014 08:09 AM (7ObY1)

142 A storm? I heard it's raining. Planes fly in the rain.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:10 AM (GiDKn)

143 126 They couldn't muster a couple of jets and fly to the debris lickety-split? Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 12:06 PM (GiDKn) I'm hearing a USN P-8 flew over... but could not find anything due to bad weather... Chances are the Sat Picture is days old... and the debris was just spotted on an old picture... (at least that's my guess)...

Posted by: Romeo13... Ex Aluminun Can Sailor at March 20, 2014 08:10 AM (84gbM)

144 Yeah, no way can this guy get elected president with his sparse record! Posted by: Barack Obama at March 20, 2014 12:09 PM (78TbK) --- 1. That worked out so well for us. 2. Even you had a longer public record for inspection than does Rand.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:10 AM (zDsvJ)

145 the Pajama Boys of Diplomacy! Too true. 'Just muscular enough not to be mocked' is so last year...

Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2014 08:10 AM (FcR7P)

146 Haven't seen what the time-delay was between when the debris was spotted by satellite and the search efforts. ------- Per CNN the photos are four days old.

Posted by: Adam at March 20, 2014 08:10 AM (Aif/5)

147 Please tell me you're kidding. Yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 08:10 AM (KvM9d)

148 You think that makes searching easy?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 12:03 PM (t3UFN)

That's the Southern Ocean, and it's usually nasty.

It's close to, if not in the Roaring Forties, and that is not a pleasant place for ships...or planes for that matter.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 20, 2014 08:11 AM (QFxY5)

149 They say the sat photo is over 4 days old now.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:11 AM (GiDKn)

150 Thank goodness, rickb223.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:11 AM (zDsvJ)

151 Vlad is doing EXACTLY what SCOAMF does every day. SCOAMF says Vlad can't just take countries, its against international law! Vlad is saying 'Who will stop me?'

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 20, 2014 08:11 AM (9Bdcz)

152 A storm? I heard it's raining. Planes fly in the rain. Come on. Nighttime, storm, ocean, and... flashlights while searching at 200 mph?

Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2014 08:12 AM (FcR7P)

153 Yes.... sins of the Father and all.... Have you ever heard Rand explicitly state that he disagrees with his father on any particular issue? Rand might be better at hiding his Inner Crazy, but so far I'm not seeing much daylight between them. I'm fine with him being in the Senate, but I don't trust him to execute the role of CiC.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 20, 2014 08:12 AM (SY2Kh)

154 No, the way you win in politics is by being as angry, abrasive, and confrontational as possible. What I do is, when I first meet somebody, I try to figure out what is the deepest, most fundamental disagreement we have. Then I bring that issue up, imply that anyone who disagrees with me is worse than Hitler, and just kinda stand there twitching at them, daring them to respond. That's how you WIN! PEOPLE SKILLS!!

Posted by: TrueKaaaaaaahn! at March 20, 2014 08:13 AM (ZPrif)

155 whether i am nervous of Rands father or not, If it becomes open season on parenting style  i will consider it open season on Obama and Michelles parents, Hillary and Bill's ..


oh who am i kidding. That  will get no coverage 

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 08:13 AM (nqBYe)

156 If you want to stop the Russian in their tracks, just barricade the roads into Ukraine with fuel rods from Chernobyl (which is in the Ukraine).

Posted by: Qari Esmhatulla at March 20, 2014 08:13 AM (e8kgV)

157 A storm? I heard it's raining. Planes fly in the rain. Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 12:10 PM (GiDKn) but its really hard to get any useable Radar returns off the surface when the Seas are running high... And the MK 1 Eyeball can only see so much...

Posted by: Romeo13... Ex Aluminun Can Sailor at March 20, 2014 08:13 AM (84gbM)

158 A storm? I heard it's raining. Planes fly in the rain. Here's a pill. Take one.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at March 20, 2014 08:13 AM (PMGbu)

159 'm fine with him being in the Senate, but I don't trust him to execute the role of CiC. Not so fast, I want a look at his brackets before I'm willing to discount his fitness to be President.

Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2014 08:13 AM (FcR7P)

160 Apparently no males are going to college because all dorm products are marketed to girls.

Posted by: NCKate at March 20, 2014 08:14 AM (y7PFk)

161 The reason Rand's dad is a problem for him is that Rand himself has such a sparse public record and, of course, because he has not exactly spent a lot of effort distancing himself from his father's positions in most things. Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 12:07 PM (zDsvJ) I'm sure that all the voters in Kenya will tell us all about how relevant "his father's positions" are.

Posted by: Mustbequantum at March 20, 2014 08:14 AM (MIKMs)

162 Fred Phelps (Democrat) is meeting Satan as we type... Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 20, 2014 11:43 AM (jsWA FIFY.

Posted by: RWC at March 20, 2014 08:14 AM (fWAjv)

163 They do it in the movies all the time!

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:14 AM (GiDKn)

164 I do not celebrate anyone's death, but I will admit to a great deal of relief, knowing that bastard is gone.

May his satanic cult die with him.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at March 20, 2014 11:44 AM (Y9x3L)

 

I don't know if  'celebratory'  is a good descriptor of how I feel when especially bad men die, although that infusion of warmth and sense of well-being and relief might be construed as mild elation.

 

Take Kim Jong Il, for example. The thought of that mass-murdering little meglomaniac being Ned Beattyfied by a gang of rapacious demons in Hell makes me smile a little inside.

Posted by: troyriser at March 20, 2014 08:14 AM (O66NZ)

165 OK March Madness is starting and I am in a bracket pool, so I might have to concentrate a tad on the round ball. Go Ohio State

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 08:15 AM (t3UFN)

166 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 20, 2014 12:03 PM (4df7R) One way or another, the HQ is good for you diet.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 20, 2014 08:15 AM (PYAXX)

167 Not so fast, I want a look at his brackets before I'm willing to discount his fitness to be President. -------- And what are his tastes in tv shows?!?

Posted by: LIV at March 20, 2014 08:15 AM (Aif/5)

168 Rush parody:  Putin to Obama


"Come back, Barry, when you grow a pair"

Posted by: Jules at March 20, 2014 08:15 AM (omBWL)

169 So you're saying it still could be a black hole? Look, I know that's batshit insane -- but *is* it batshit insane?

Posted by: Don Lemon at March 20, 2014 08:15 AM (ZPrif)

170 Dayton vs. Ohio State set to tip off. CBS.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 20, 2014 08:15 AM (ZshNr)

171 169 So you're saying it still could be a black hole?

Look, I know that's batshit insane -- but *is* it batshit insane?

Posted by: Don Lemon at March 20, 2014 12:15 PM (ZPrif)

 

Of course it's not.  Why do you ask?

Posted by: George Noory at March 20, 2014 08:16 AM (DrWcr)

172 Rand has sued TFG for his imperial decrees illegally changing the ObamaCide laws willy-nilly. So there's that. I haven't heard near the crazy from Rand that I heard from his daddy.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 20, 2014 08:16 AM (0HooB)

173 I was surprised to find that Courtney Love even had an Australian fan club.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 20, 2014 08:16 AM (xq1UY)

174 I have Ohio State in the office pool, so go Ohio State!

Posted by: Citizen X at March 20, 2014 08:16 AM (7ObY1)

175 Apparently no males are going to college because all dorm products are marketed to girls.

Posted by: NCKate at March 20, 2014 12:14 PM (y7PFk)



Sadly,   it's true.   Male college-going is ridiculously low    thanks to the   browbeating of campus vaginalogues.



Also, though,   most college guys are fine with using old milk crates    for furniture.   Girls tend to want to dandy up their rooms a bit more.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:16 AM (4df7R)

176 >>Have you ever heard Rand explicitly state that he disagrees with his father on any particular issue? I think there was one time Nor Luap shot his mouth off during election season - something to do with soldiers or something, does anyone remember? But, yeah, I haven't seen much daylight. So that is in his debit column. And I just don't see any evidence that he has the chops to be a good president. Maybe he does, but it's far too early to tell.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:17 AM (zDsvJ)

177 I thought "Mary Cloggenstein" was a sock...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud at March 20, 2014 08:17 AM (NKoXJ)

178 Doesn't Australia realize that this is the most important story of the last 5,000 years! Do something Australia!!!11!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 20, 2014 08:17 AM (+lsX1)

179 So you're saying it still could be a black hole? Look, I know that's batshit insane -- but *is* it batshit insane?
Posted by: Don Lemon at March 20, 2014 12:15 PM (ZPrif)

why limit it to the black hole. couldn't it be another triangle  that opened up?

caused  by global warming  or fraking and such.

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 08:17 AM (nqBYe)

180 154 TrueKaaaaahhhhnnn, The "secret" is Jen "Bili" Rubin doesn't eant the GOP to win....shocking shit, I know when applied to Al Wa-Po's "house n****r" as it were..... In explanation I broke out that phrase in honor of the left's treatment of Condi Rice, Colon Powell, and Clarence Thomas....all better more accomplished humans than Jen "Bili" Rubin....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 20, 2014 08:17 AM (TE35l)

181 personally i'm thinking gremlins that escaped the twilight zone and want an encore

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 08:18 AM (nqBYe)

182 OK March Madness is starting and I am in a bracket pool, so I might have to concentrate a tad on the round ball. Go Ohio State The nation thanks you, Mr. President. Can you imagine the media story when a team with a Russian-ancestry player meets a team with a Ukrainian-ancestry player? Calling Bob Costas, what an event that will be!

Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2014 08:18 AM (FcR7P)

183 Apparently no males are going to college because all dorm products are marketed to girls.
That's not true! My portable pink bidet has My Little Pony emblems on it for the guys!

Posted by: pajama boy at March 20, 2014 08:18 AM (hn5v5)

184 So you're saying it still could be a black hole?


Look, I know that's batshit insane -- but *is* it batshit insane?


Posted by: Don Lemon at March 20, 2014 12:15 PM (ZPrif)



Anyone who thinks it's insane have clearly never seen the cinematic achievement that IS "Giant Spider Invasion."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:18 AM (4df7R)

185 172 Rand has sued TFG for his imperial decrees illegally changing the ObamaCide laws willy-nilly. -- Did he win his lawsuit? I'm looking for results. It's the same knock people can make on Cruz, except that Cruz has a much longer public record so we can glean something about his behavior in public office and his organizational skills.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:18 AM (zDsvJ)

186 obama tells Putin that Ukrainian people shouldn't have to choose between the West and Russia. If that phrasing sounds familiar, it should. I'll give you a hint: "The American people shouldn't have to choose between heating their homes and buying health insurance." It's typical obama glibness.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:18 AM (GiDKn)

187 So there's that. I haven't heard near the crazy from Rand that I heard from his daddy. Could be that he knows he has many more years left so he's hiding the crazy better.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 08:19 AM (KvM9d)

188 black holes, yellow holes, white holes. S'all good, as long as they're young.

Posted by: Noted Pederast Hairy Reid at March 20, 2014 08:19 AM (7ObY1)

189 Sadly, it's true. Male college-going is ridiculously low thanks to the browbeating of campus vaginalogues.

Also, though, most college guys are fine with using old milk crates for furniture. Girls tend to want to dandy up their rooms a bit more.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 20, 2014 12:16 PM (4df7R)

 

I'd be scared shitless to go to college now.  With the sexual harassment/"assault" policies they have now, all it takes is a chick regretting a one-night stand with you and your life is over.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 08:19 AM (DrWcr)

190 Rand Paul is a Senator. That makes him unqualified to lead. Fuck off, Senators.

Posted by: garrett at March 20, 2014 08:19 AM (suxTz)

191 What is Rand Paul's stance on Obamacare? Full repeal or tweak and dick around?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 20, 2014 08:19 AM (A98Xu)

192 Rush parody: Putin to Obama "Come back, Barry, when you grow a pair" No, Barry, try again. Ovaries don't count.

Posted by: Rush at March 20, 2014 08:19 AM (FcR7P)

193 "The American people shouldn't have to choose between heating their homes and buying health insurance."
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And by Allah I'll make sure they can't afford either!

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 20, 2014 08:20 AM (78TbK)

194 re: sidebar about court finding voter ID constitutional--can we get a burning Black Panther glove, or maybe a burning Eric Holder effigy?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 20, 2014 08:21 AM (sQ0LB)

195 The American people shouldn't have to choose between heating their homes and buying health insurance."

or the american people shouldn't have to choose between having a roof over their heads, eating, or paying for Obamacare.

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 08:21 AM (nqBYe)

196 so having more flexibility after the election means he's able to brilliantly tie himself into knots like Pretzel Boy?

Posted by: mallfly at March 20, 2014 08:21 AM (bJm7W)

197 Rand Paul is named after that crazy, immoral atheist Ayn Rand. Not. Fit. To. Lead.

Posted by: Typical Troll at March 20, 2014 08:21 AM (7ObY1)

198 You realize Rand will have to wait at least 10 years before he can get the nomination right?

Posted by: Meatball isn't here so I'll say it for him at March 20, 2014 08:21 AM (Aif/5)

199 obama decides for the whole world, is the takeaway here I guess

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:22 AM (GiDKn)

200 Rush parody: Putin to Obama


"Come back, Barry, when you grow a pair"


No, Barry, try again. Ovaries don't count.

Posted by: Rush at March 20, 2014 12:19 PM (FcR7P)



"Neither do breasts."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:22 AM (4df7R)

201 194 re: sidebar about court finding voter ID constitutional--can we get a burning Black Panther glove, or maybe a burning Eric Holder effigy?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at March 20, 2014 12:21 PM (sQ0LB)

 

That's RAAAAACIST!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 08:22 AM (DrWcr)

202 194 Conservative Crank, Or you know... Never mind.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 20, 2014 08:22 AM (TE35l)

203 187 So there's that. I haven't heard near the crazy from Rand that I heard from his daddy.


Could be that he knows he has many more years left so he's hiding the crazy better.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 12:19 PM (KvM9d)

 

Its also entirely possible that we still haven't perfected human cloning and memory imprinting and that Rand Paul is actually a completely different person than Ron Paul.

 

That said I still want governors with actual executive experience an Conservative accomplishments over senators who have the job of talking.

Posted by: buzzion at March 20, 2014 08:22 AM (LI48c)

204 Not to pick on you, specifically, but what exactly has he accomplished that gives you confidence that he can or will do something effective about national issues?

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 11:57 AM (zDsvJ)


Legit filibuster was a good start.  He is very frequently one of the Republicans on the good side of "bipartisan" bills.  He can articulate conservative ideology in a way I haven't seen in the entire time I've been old enough to pay attention to politics (I'm only 29); that makes him convincing and, most importantly to me, lets you know he's thought about these things and means it rather just stakes out a position he thinks polls well (or doesn't think about at all). 

Posted by: shillelagh at March 20, 2014 08:22 AM (hRzu2)

205 anyway ,out to be productive for a bit.

Posted by: willow at March 20, 2014 08:23 AM (nqBYe)

206 Rand Paul is named after that crazy, immoral atheist Ayn Rand. And Obama is named after...?

Posted by: t-bird at March 20, 2014 08:23 AM (FcR7P)

207 Hell to the fucking no. http://tinyurl.com/nvubzya

Posted by: RWC at March 20, 2014 08:23 AM (fWAjv)

208 It's the same knock people can make on Cruz, except that Cruz has a much longer public record so we can glean something about his behavior in public office and his organizational skills. So if a successful person runs for office they are automatically discounted because they do not have the "public office" skills? Whaaaaat?

Posted by: Mustbequantum at March 20, 2014 08:23 AM (MIKMs)

209 Ace's first post will be about Flight 370. 92% sure.

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:23 AM (GiDKn)

210 Hell to the fucking no.


http://tinyurl.com/nvubzya

Posted by: RWC at March 20, 2014 12:23 PM (fWAjv)




Ohhhh, that is SUCH bullshit.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:23 AM (4df7R)

211 That said I still want governors with actual executive experience an Conservative accomplishments over senators who have the job of talking.
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Posted by: Chris Christie at March 20, 2014 08:24 AM (78TbK)

212 If you're saying "Fuck you, Senators", then you're axing Cruz as a candidate as well.  Who are your alternatives?  Scott Walker?  Maybe, but he's a pretty bland personality and the media won't shut up about his lack of a college education if he's the nominee. Who else?

Posted by: radar at March 20, 2014 08:24 AM (eNZFc)

213 I'd be scared shitless to go to college now. With the sexual harassment/"assault" policies they have now, all it takes is a chick regretting a one-night stand with you and your life is over. Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 12:19 PM (DrWcr) ___________ Yeah, there's an app for that. http://www.mindingthecampus.com/originals/2014/02/want_to_have_sex_sign_this_con.html

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 20, 2014 08:24 AM (0LHZx)

214 Thanks for the reply, shillelagh. Those are all rhetorical, rather than substantive, accomplishments. I need more than that for POTUS.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:24 AM (zDsvJ)

215 Big News, wrestling fans! God and I will be having a Pay Per View this weekend, best of two falls out of three to see who gets stuck with that Phelps schmuck.

Posted by: Satan at March 20, 2014 08:24 AM (bJm7W)

216 As to DrewM's broader point, I agree. You win voters by finding common ground. There's nothing at all wrong with tailoring your message to a given audience, provided your positions remain consistent.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 20, 2014 08:24 AM (SY2Kh)

217 It's not enough for Rand Paul to be the only one in Congress with the balls to stand up to Teh Won. He has to WIN lawsuits against the JEF, all by himself with no help from his own party. Win lawsuits, Rand, or you're Not. Fit. To. Lead.

Posted by: Guy Who Doesn't Give a Shit at March 20, 2014 08:24 AM (7ObY1)

218 And Obama is named after...?
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That guy from the mortal combat game, right?

Posted by: Obligatory at March 20, 2014 08:24 AM (78TbK)

219 210 Hell to the fucking no.





http://tinyurl.com/nvubzya

Posted by: RWC at March 20, 2014 12:23 PM (fWAjv)


Ohhhh, that is SUCH bullshit.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 20, 2014 12:23 PM (4df7R)

 

Col. Gadsden is spinning in his grave.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 08:25 AM (DrWcr)

220 Meggie Mac takes on Dana Loesch with predictable results

http://tinyurl.com/mlx3qpr

Posted by: kbdabear at March 20, 2014 08:25 AM (aTXUx)

221 Unless there's something hot right now on Hot Air..

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:25 AM (GiDKn)

222 Rand has been pretty weak in articulating the need for a strong defense. I don't think Rand has much a of a problem with letting America's military might whither on the vine. I think Rand is fine with a sharply smaller, weaker American military.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 20, 2014 08:26 AM (ZPrif)

223 And Obama is named after...?
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That guy from the mortal combat game, right?

Posted by: Obligatory at March 20, 2014 12:24 PM (78TbK)



... Sub-Zero?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:26 AM (4df7R)

224 By the By, because of this Ukraine stuff, Russia is going to fubar the Iranian Nuke talks, and obama will be left holding the bag and all he will be able to do is fold. That will leave it to Israel to act on it's own and the Middle East will be that much closer to an explosion. I always beep my bag packed for occasions like this

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 08:26 AM (t3UFN)

225 "22 Under what Authority is the US President seizing the Assets of Russian Private Citizens, without any Court Proceeding?

Note, the Constitution's 5th Amendment says 'NO PERSON'... not no Citizen.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2014 11:47 AM (84gbM)"



President Obama has the constitutional authority to seize the assets of those people.  It is one of the powers enumerated in the "penumbras and emanations" clause. 

Posted by: Preznit Supergenius at March 20, 2014 08:26 AM (PD6iL)

226 He has to WIN lawsuits against the JEF, all by himself with no help from his own party.
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Damn straight.

Has he fixed Obamacare yet? No.

Gotten Amnesty Legalized? No

Gotten the tea party leaders thrown in prison? No.

Posted by: John Boehner at March 20, 2014 08:27 AM (78TbK)

227 Afternoon horde. I know this will come as a surprise to the NC Morons, but THE FUCKING SUN IS OUT AND IT'S NOT 30 Degrees! 65! Happy Spring. Next week? Back to 30 degrees. Fuck this global warming.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 20, 2014 08:27 AM (0FSuD)

228 anyway ,out to be productive for a bit. Posted by: willow
Great! Now we won't get another new thread for the rest of the afternoon!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 20, 2014 08:27 AM (hn5v5)

229 BTW, y'all,   spring officially starts in 30mins.



Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:28 AM (4df7R)

230 I think Roosevelt was closing banks at his whimsy. (I saw it on an episode of The Untouchables)

Posted by: soothsayer, king of the underscore at March 20, 2014 08:28 AM (GiDKn)

231 211 That said I still want governors with actual executive experience an
Conservative accomplishments over senators who have the job of talking.
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I'll be your creme filled donut, err huckleberry

Posted by: Chris Christie at March 20, 2014 12:24 PM (78TbK)

 

Conservative accomplishments

 

I also left out a bunch of my other criteria.  Such as being from a red or purple state.  And New Jersey is niether of those.

Posted by: buzzion at March 20, 2014 08:28 AM (LI48c)

232 We know EVERYTHING about Obama's long, public record. All his transcripts, grades, everything he wrote for the Harvard Law Review. His long record of success as a community organizer. Those 9 incredibly productive months he spent in the Senate voting "present" before starting his campaign for POTUS. Every minute detail of Obama's long, long, very public record is readily available to all Americans and always has been. Rand Paul is Not. Fit. To. Lead.

Posted by: Guy Who Doesn't Give a Shit at March 20, 2014 08:28 AM (7ObY1)

233 Col. Gadsden is spinning in his grave. Like a jet engine.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 08:28 AM (KvM9d)

234 Don't mistake my comments for approval of RP. It's just that, at this point, I'd prefer a stale ham sandwich to TFG.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 20, 2014 08:28 AM (0HooB)

235 So if a successful person runs for office they are automatically discounted because they do not have the "public office" skills? Whaaaaat? Posted by: Mustbequantum at March 20, 2014 12:23 PM (MIKMs) --- For me there is. There is a vast difference between being successful in private life and being a successful and ethical public servant. I'd like to see some time responsibly managing taxpayer resources and doing the job the voters/taxpayers hired you to do with success. I want to see how a prospective POTUS handles questions from left field, how they deal with compromise, and who their circle of associates are. So, yeah, I want to see that.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:29 AM (zDsvJ)

236 I won the Cold War. That trumps you.

Posted by: King Putt to Putin at March 20, 2014 08:29 AM (0cMkb)

237

Col. Gadsden is spinning in his grave.

 

---------

 

Yeah, but that parody was made just to push our buttons.  I'm not going to let it.

Posted by: @JohnTant at March 20, 2014 08:30 AM (eytER)

238 234 Don't mistake my comments for approval of RP. It's just that, at this point, I'd prefer a stale ham sandwich to TFG. -- Don't we all? But that's not the choice we'll be facing in 2016.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 08:30 AM (zDsvJ)

239 Sub-Zero? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 20, 2014 12:26 PM (4df7R) Baraka. Using his arm blades to shred the Constitution.

Posted by: RWC at March 20, 2014 08:30 AM (fWAjv)

240 Shouldn't the Obamacare "Gadsden" flag feature an enema kit instead of a stethoscope?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 20, 2014 08:30 AM (hn5v5)

241 Baraka kill sub-zero AND the Constitution!

FATALITY!

http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Baraka

Posted by: Baraka at March 20, 2014 08:30 AM (78TbK)

242 238 234 Don't mistake my comments for approval of RP. It's just that, at this point, I'd prefer a stale ham sandwich to TFG.
--

Don't we all?

But that's not the choice we'll be facing in 2016.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 12:30 PM (zDsvJ)

 

It'll be a stale ham wallet.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 20, 2014 08:31 AM (DrWcr)

243 Nood CNN black hole up!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2014 08:31 AM (KvM9d)

244 Noodie - Anyone seen a plane?

Posted by: Black Hole at March 20, 2014 08:31 AM (aDwsi)

245 My thoughts on RAND Paul? What happens outside of this country has a delayed effect on me and my mine. What happens INSIDE this country, has an immediate effect. In my list of priorities, we need to spend our time and energy getting THIS country back to its Constitution.... vice worrying about another country.... Rand is the one who is talking about spending his energy fixing THIS country.... Talking about freedom for Americans, vice freedom for Ukrainians... He may not end up as my first choice... but I'm glad he is pulling the debate back to what is happening HERE...

Posted by: Romeo13... Ex Aluminun Can Sailor at March 20, 2014 08:31 AM (84gbM)

246 I also left out a bunch of my other criteria. Such as being from a red or purple state. And New Jersey is niether of those.
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I'm tanned, rested, and ready

Posted by: Jeb Bush at March 20, 2014 08:32 AM (78TbK)

247 @220 Why do people do the twitter thing? It's always looks like 16 year olds at a HS prom fussing over each others dress and boyfriend. Childishness. Has ANYTHING ever been said on twitter that was worth reading or made a difference in any fucking thing? #dumbasshit

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 20, 2014 08:32 AM (0FSuD)

248 Thanks for the reply, shillelagh.

Those are all rhetorical, rather than substantive, accomplishments.

I need more than that for POTUS.

Posted by: Y-not at March 20, 2014 12:24 PM (zDsvJ)


Then you need someone that's already been POTUS to run for POTUS.  And if you don't think the filibuster mattered substantively, that strikes me as impatient. 

Rand Paul would easily be the best Republican candidate for Pres. I've been offered in my voting-life, and that includes both governors and senators.  That might not be saying a lot, but it's saying something. 

Posted by: shillelagh at March 20, 2014 08:32 AM (hRzu2)

249 When your faction is arguing philosophy and the opposing faction is arguing politics, you've already lost the argument.

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at March 20, 2014 08:32 AM (2oU2+)

250 I'm tanned, rested, and ready Posted by: Jeb Bush at March 20, 2014 12:32 PM (78TbK) Boy, you need to lose 30 pounds. Come back 2024.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 20, 2014 08:32 AM (0FSuD)

251 "Hell to the fucking no."

You know, the actual symbol of the medical profession is that caduceus thing, that already has snakes on it. Leave it to pyjama-boy to come up with a strangling stethoscope instead.

If you're going to deprive me of all my rights, I expect a little classical literacy.
Why the hell do we send them to Harvard? Dude. It's a Divinity school.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 20, 2014 08:33 AM (xq1UY)

252 RE:  Rand's fitness for the Presidency, let's remember that it's still early days.   A lot of our questions about him as a candidate, and about any other potential candidates, will be asked and (hopefully)   addressed between now and the    primaries.   We've got some time to learn who's the right candidate.     


This   is one of the few times I can remember where the    presumptive   candidate isn't waiting   in line    with a   "It's his turn" sign flashing over his (or her) head.       it doesn't matter what Rove and his    happy band of hucksters say;  they can   shove     Jeb and   Christie at us all they want, it still ain't happenin'.      I don't feel that sense of inevitability about them that I felt about Romney, or McCain, or Dubya.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 20, 2014 08:34 AM (4df7R)

253 Wow. I can't believe Meggie brought up pigs. lol

Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 20, 2014 08:34 AM (r7mtu)

254 Here's something fucked up: i'm standing in chowline today and one of my Polish associates shows me on his phone a tweet by a Russian pol making fun of prez over the sanction situation. Dude shakes his head but has the class to not say anything. Fuuuuck.

Posted by: fastfreefall at March 20, 2014 08:34 AM (KNA3E)

255 I don't have a particular bone to pick with Rand, he seems to have pretty good instincts and positions on most issues although his foreign policy positions are a bit of a mystery at this point. And his association with his father is a bit unnerving. Sorry, Ron Paul is a kook and I want to see a bright line between the two. But I would rather see a governor with actual experience governing than a senator who spends most of his time talking and depending on his or her constituency preaching to the choir. Walker seems to be the best so far but a long way to go between now and the nomination.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2014 08:34 AM (g1DWB)

256 Ace up stompity stomp

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 20, 2014 08:35 AM (T2V/1)

257 And wasn't that satellite image of the wreckage from March 16, that was 4 days ago.  What took them so long for it to be brought to anyone's attention?

Posted by: jaimo at March 20, 2014 08:36 AM (9U1OG)

Posted by: TRUSQUISH!!!!!1!!1 at March 20, 2014 08:36 AM (YmPwQ)

259 246 I also left out a bunch of my other criteria. Such as being from a red or purple state. And New Jersey is niether of those.
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I'm tanned, rested, and ready

Posted by: Jeb Bush at March 20, 2014 12:32 PM (78TbK)

 

Additional criteria. Currently serving or recently retired governor.  Jeb Bush does not count as recently retired to me.

Posted by: buzzion at March 20, 2014 08:36 AM (LI48c)

260 Rand Paul would easily be the best Republican candidate for Pres. I've been offered in my voting-life, and that includes both governors and senators. That might not be saying a lot, but it's saying something.
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Paul, even as a libertarian, even if he really is close to his dad on foreign policy, would be the most conservative candidate since at least Bush 43, maybe Reagan.

Out of the governors I've heard offered, only Walker or Jindal are conservatives. Bush, Christie, Romney (again)...etc...are all liberals.

I'm not *at all* worried about executive experience. Obama, for example, had none, and he's pretty much managed to destroy the US as we knew it as was his goal in 2009.

The president will have staff. If he surrounds himself with competent people who share his vision he will be successful - so examine the vision and who the man surrounds himself with...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2014 08:36 AM (78TbK)

261 247 Nip Sip, In all humility Richard Grennell and I treeing Susan Rice, the Sunday Shows, and David Axelrod on Benghazi was worthwhile..... I failed, but I showed up.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 20, 2014 08:37 AM (TE35l)

262

What other governors are actually potential candidates besides Walker and (grrr) Krispy?  Jindal?  Smart guy, doesn't strike me as a particularly smooth politician though.  Who else??

Posted by: radar at March 20, 2014 08:38 AM (eNZFc)

263 The reason Rand's dad is a problem for him is that Rand himself has such a sparse public record and, of course, because he has not exactly spent a lot of effort distancing himself from his father's positions in most things.

It doesn't help that his main strategy seems to be to lie his damn ass off about what his Dad's position was on stuff back in the 80's. I was 21 in 1988, I was on Ron Paul's mailing list and voted for him then. My positions have changed since then, Rand Paul's approach is to just pretend those weren't Ron Paul's positions, and I know he's lying. So all I can say is Dude, What The Fuck?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at March 20, 2014 08:49 AM (kwc/t)

264 Judging from the actions of Harry Reid and Barry Obama, Washington D.C. is now the gangster capital of the world.

Posted by: Fritz at March 20, 2014 08:51 AM (UzPAd)

265 The Dems and their minions in the MSM will go after whoever the Repubs nominate. Any criticism of Hillary! (presuming she is the candidate) will be turned into "sexism" and "fear of a strong woman"; no matter whom the Repubs nominate, he (she) will be criticized for anything that can be thought of (this governor doesn't have any foreign policy experience, that senator doesn't have any executive experience, etc)

And don't forget that digging through trash (real and figurative) will be entirely directed at one side only.

We could just as well go with Cruz: think of Hillary in a debate with him. (I thought the same about Barky debating Gingrich in 2012. Bloodbath.)

Posted by: Mallfly at March 20, 2014 08:51 AM (bJm7W)

266 "But what we can do is stand up for principle, stand by the Ukrainian people," and with that and 19.99 you can get the commemorative Obama inauguration plate! Posted by: Obama inauguration.com at March 20, 2014 11:47 AM (78TbK) __________________ BUT THAT'S NOT ALL!!! Call now and get the 2nd one ABSOLUTELY FREE!!! Operators are 'standing by' (Separate Shipping/Handling [@ $149.99] applies

Posted by: alwyr at March 20, 2014 08:55 AM (V0j3u)

267 There's always talk from the GOPe about how the party has to adjust their policies to appeal to voters who normally support Dems

Rand Paul has by far the greatest appeal to the youth vote because he stands for government that leaves us alone, opposes sticking our nose into every foreign involvement, and thinks that privacy and protection from prying government eyes is kind of important

But of course the GOPe doesn't want anyone actually doing something about it if it doesn't support rent seeking large donors like the Chamber of Commerce


Posted by: kbdabear at March 20, 2014 09:01 AM (aTXUx)

268 Under what Authority is the US President seizing the Assets of Russian Private Citizens, without any Court Proceeding? Note, the Constitution's 5th Amendment says 'NO PERSON'... not no Citizen. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2014 11:47 AM (84gbM) ________________ Umm, I believe it was done by an Executive Order - which, as we well know, are not governed by the US Const (or something like that)

Posted by: alwyr at March 20, 2014 09:03 AM (V0j3u)

269 "224 By the By, because of this Ukraine stuff, Russia is going to fubar the Iranian Nuke talks, and obama will be left holding the bag and all he will be able to do is fold. That will leave it to Israel to act on it's own and the Middle East will be that much closer to an explosion. I always beep my bag packed for occasions like this

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 20, 2014 12:26 PM (t3UFN)"



Obama has plenty of options.  Many of them involve him just ceasing to obstruct energy development in the United States.  He could also issue an executive order to the EPA directing them to stop preventing economical conversion of existing vehicles to run on compressed natural gas so that millions of individual Americans would pay their own money to convert their own vehicles and reduce US gasoline consumption by some significant amount.  Both of those actions together would drop the world oil price overnight and make Putin's oligarch buddies cry.



Obama also has plenty of military options.  Since he plans to economize with the military, he could relocate most of the NATO resources left in Germany to Poland which has a much lower cost of living.  He can give away tanks, planes and other military equipment that we will not have the men to operate to Poland and the other former Warsaw Pact countries.  He can push to add any former Warsaw Pact countries that are not yet in NATO into that organization.  He can give Great Britain the aircraft carrier that the US Navy will no longer be operating.



Of course, we know that Barack Obama will do none of those things.  Vladimir Putin was smart to act early in Obama's second term after he had a first term to weaken the United States and while we have to wait another three year to try to repair the damage.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 20, 2014 09:04 AM (PD6iL)

270 President JugEars McFuckstick just announced new "draconian" sanctions against Russia: He's cancelling Putin's Netflix subscription and sending Dennis Rodman to drunkenly defecate in the halls of various 4-star hotels in Moscow.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingconspirator at March 20, 2014 09:08 AM (nmog7)

271 Of course, we know that Barack Obama will do none of those things. Vladimir Putin was smart to act early in Obama's second term after he had a first term to weaken the United States and while we have to wait another three year to try to repair the damage.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at March 20, 2014 01:04 PM (PD6iL)

 

It's unlikely we'll have another President of either party this feckless, foolish, weak and inept for a very long time. Bad guys, strangely impervious to President Obama's sheer messianic awesomeness, see an opportunity.

 

I'm guessing China will make its play next. Last month, the Chinese said, 'Why no, we have no plans to establish an Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) encompassing the whole of the South China Sea.'

 

Watch. The Chinese will do just that in the next few months--and maybe sink a few Philippine fishing boats while they're at it, just for fun, knowing the United States will do nothing. Obama will, however, lambaste the Japanese for reconsidering their no-nukes policy in reaction to Chinese expansionism, 'cause that's how he rolls: reward our enemies, punish our allies. 

 

We've never had a worse President. Not even James Buchanan, a closeted secessionist, confederate sympathizer and suspected traitor, was this dangerous to the country, and that's saying something.

Posted by: troyriser at March 20, 2014 09:24 AM (O66NZ)

272
But what we can do is stand up for principle, stand by the Ukrainian people.

And the best way to help the Ukrainian people is to buy my health insurance!

But wait, there's more! If you act now, you not only can keep your doctor and stop Putin: You will also get the Bamboo Steamer and a Pocket Fisherman (shipping and handling not included)!

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at March 20, 2014 09:43 AM (VrNoa)

273 >>Under what Authority is the US President seizing the Assets of Russian Private Citizens, without any Court Proceeding? As I understand it a freeze is not a "taking". During World War One, the royalties Springfield owed to Mauser for the bolt assembly of the 1903 rifle were paid into trust, and released at the war's end. Germany earned on every rifle, but didn't get paid during the war against her. It's part of the traditional notion that no foriegner has a right to come to the US and make money, which usually Obama decries as racist and extremist.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at March 20, 2014 09:45 AM (5xmd7)

274 Jennifer Rubin, David Frum, David Brooks ... all pseudo-conservatives providing cover to the leftist rags employing them. All of them deserve to be scorned.

Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at March 20, 2014 09:51 AM (miAG4)

275 It's part of the traditional notion that no foriegner has a right to come to the US and make money, which usually Obama decries as racist and extremist.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at March 20, 2014 01:45 PM (5xmd7)

 

I'd have no problem with the United States straight-out confiscating whatever holdings the Russian oligarchs bankrolling Putin have in our country. None.

 

After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the Russian people had a real chance--for the first time in their long history--of establishing a free country. That window closed when former KGB and communist party hacks gobbled up the country's capital for themselves. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Fuck them.

Posted by: troyriser at March 20, 2014 09:56 AM (O66NZ)

276 Liberal branding goes both ways. In foreign policy Rand Paul is a liberal with a capital L. And Rubin is not. So... You are as right as you are wrong. I'm just looking for someone to stop the Socialism and get back to some rugged individualism... If Rand Paul does that... good. If we elect a liberal Republican of any stripe... getting the government surveillance stopped is a good thing. Any Republican is better than any Democrat.

Posted by: petunia at March 20, 2014 11:10 AM (DAcBA)

277 New MU Law poll out next week of the WI Gov's race. Rasmussen has Walker/Burke tied and the jobs numbers out yesterday were brutally bad and were top of the page headlines today. If he has any thoughts about running for President, he better start doing a better job campaigning here.

Posted by: Gyaos at March 20, 2014 11:26 AM (yWFG6)

278 Rubin poses as a "Republican" but her job is to sabotage and undermine the party from a faux sympathetic perspective.

Posted by: Beef at March 20, 2014 11:42 AM (XERws)

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