March 31, 2014
— Ace Which would be good.
Democrats’ prospects for 2014 do not look rosy. There is little chance that they will retake the House, and a good chance they will lose seats. Even worse, there is a significant chance that they will lose control of the Senate. Our forecasting model said as many as two months ago. That forecast continues to square with the sense of many analysts — even those who mocked the forecast....
One key piece of information is whether candidates have held an elective office before and, if so, which one. Unsurprisingly, political science research has long shown that candidates who have held elective office and higher levels of office tend to do better on Election Day. They usually run better campaigns and make fewer mistakes, if only because theyÂ’ve done it before.
As we have begun to incorporate candidate experience into the model, our initial sense is this: Republicans may have a far better chance of winning control of the Senate than we or other analysts previously thought. Here is a preliminary estimate: The GOP could have as much as a 4 in 5 chance of controlling the chamber.
Numerous factors could upset this analysis, such as unexpected, weak candidates winning where the analysis assumes more experienced, stronger candidates.
Of course, none of that really matters anymore, because Chuck Todd has declared Obamacare "unrepealable."
ppearing on Monday's Today, NBC's chief White House correspondent and political director Chuck Todd seized on ObamaCare hitting the six million sign-up mark by the March 31 deadline, proclaiming: "So at a minimum, the importance of hitting the six million....it means the law is unrepealable....It means that it's here to stay." Todd made no mention of only 26% of Americans supporting ObamaCare in a new poll. [Listen to the audio or watch the video after the jump]Co-host Matt Lauer accepted Todd's declaration and wondered about the political impact of the health care law: "You can't repeal it, but does that mean seven months down the road, as the midterm elections come around, that this will be any less of an issue in terms of close races in congressional districts?"
I have no idea how Chuck Todd would get to this "unrepealable" notion, apart from pure fanboism.
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Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 03:51 PM (mx5oN)
Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2014 03:52 PM (sdi6R)
I want the Democrats to get SPANKED.
and
I want the Republicans to actually do something with the power given to them holding the House and Senate.
I'll be lucky to get one.
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 31, 2014 03:52 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Avi at March 31, 2014 07:51 PM (Vxe+6)
My friends, who needs Todd in order to do *that*?
Posted by: John McCain (R) at March 31, 2014 03:54 PM (M5T54)
Posted by: Guido at March 31, 2014 03:55 PM (15qFH)
Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at March 31, 2014 03:55 PM (E8IHS)
Posted by: real joe at March 31, 2014 03:55 PM (xXhgd)
Posted by: innominatus at March 31, 2014 03:55 PM (tq6K2)
But let's be real, there is a 0.00001% Obamacare is ever repealed. It will fucked with for the next 50 years, but there will never be a bill signed by a president that repeals the law.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 31, 2014 03:55 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 31, 2014 03:55 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: huerfano at March 31, 2014 03:56 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2014 03:57 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2014 03:57 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 31, 2014 07:55 PM (8ZskC)
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FUCK!
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 31, 2014 03:57 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 31, 2014 07:55 PM (8ZskC)
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Of course he did. Now I have my doubts.
Posted by: Dave S. at March 31, 2014 03:57 PM (UvR6d)
It gives power to the State. It employs State personnel. It pays off State clients. And it is a fait accompli, which automatically makes repeal extremist.
The GOP gets the Senate, the first order of business will be to ensure that it does not lose the Senate in 2016. That means not "scaring the horses", said livestock being the American voter.
To repeal Obamacare is to repeal America, as the (real) American system is today.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at March 31, 2014 03:57 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 31, 2014 03:57 PM (n+8FE)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 31, 2014 03:57 PM (R8hU8)
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If there's another source of liberal "notions" when it comes to Obama, I haven't see it.
I'm just hopin' some Democrats will take the defeat so hard, they drink the hemlock. Way too many of these idiots running around for my tastes.
Posted by: Socrates at March 31, 2014 03:58 PM (A9F3C)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 31, 2014 03:58 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 31, 2014 03:58 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 03:58 PM (rRol4)
Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at March 31, 2014 03:58 PM (DNpio)
Posted by: Killerdog at March 31, 2014 03:58 PM (ld2OA)
The Dems might as well just lay back and enjoy it.
Posted by: Todd Akin at March 31, 2014 03:59 PM (pmsMR)
Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2014 04:00 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 04:00 PM (fWEL6)
Our slogan could be "If you like your Obamacare, you can keep your Obamacare!"
Hey, it worked before, didn't it?
Posted by: Joshua at March 31, 2014 04:00 PM (oCZ4e)
Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2014 04:00 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: crrr6 at March 31, 2014 04:00 PM (EQnci)
They won't be able to repeal Ocare until an R is in the White House.
But if that happens....yeah, it's repeal-able.
Posted by: wheatie at March 31, 2014 04:01 PM (m7/Sn)
Remember the predictions of a Republican Senate tsunami in 2012....
2014: Republican Senate Net Gain: 0
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 31, 2014 04:02 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at March 31, 2014 04:02 PM (0Pgv3)
Posted by: The GOP at March 31, 2014 04:02 PM (08jH8)
He took one look at the leadership of the GOP.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 31, 2014 04:03 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 04:04 PM (fWEL6)
Hypothetically, I guess it's possible. But, remember, this is the GOP we're talking about. Not Conservatives.
I have zero faith that the party as constructed will do sh*t about sh*t because, well, not the hill to die on, and comity, and musn't upset the delicate middle, and we only have 1/3 of the government.
No confidence whatsoever in the machine. In fact I'll start calling it anti-confidence. The GOP wins. Yippee. And then, should the same players overall remain, the great purging of the "Tea Party" proceeds as planned.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 31, 2014 04:04 PM (1CroS)
27 6. I want the Democrats to get SPANKED
Oh yeah
I was a bad boy
I need punished
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 07:58 PM (rRol4)
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*cracks whip
Bend over and assume position, you bad boy.
Posted by: mistress wheatie at March 31, 2014 04:04 PM (m7/Sn)
Impossible.
They might manage a slime majority but the GOP will never control that body. The GOP leadership doesn't have the ability to face down rabid democrats, or the news media.
It's like Caesar Milan says all the time "you have to be the pack leader" and the GOP wimps can't do it, wont' do it, can't take the pressure. The democrats will continue to run that body even as the minority party.
Posted by: Smith, Simply Smith at March 31, 2014 04:04 PM (2PpZF)
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at March 31, 2014 04:05 PM (1mtKP)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at March 31, 2014 04:05 PM (kFxpe)
Yeah, but look at what a motivating factor booze is.
Most of the people here can't enjoy themselves without some good booze.
It's probably right up there with sex as far as most people's priorities go.
It's not the same.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 04:05 PM (4QSOR)
Posted by: Avi at March 31, 2014 04:05 PM (oj+wN)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 31, 2014 04:06 PM (n+8FE)
Without any deaths/resignations/etc., there will be 34 seats up for grabs in 2016 with 10 of those Dem and 24 R.
So a victory in 2014 could be a very short lived thing.
Ditto for The Republic.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 31, 2014 04:06 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 07:58 PM (rRol4)
Trust me, you don't want me to spank you the way I want to spank the Democrats.
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 31, 2014 04:06 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 31, 2014 04:07 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: jakeman at March 31, 2014 04:07 PM (vH4YP)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 31, 2014 04:07 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Avi at March 31, 2014 07:52 PM (Vxe+6)<<<
Obama will veto a repeal and there won't be the votes to override it (maybe).
Posted by: rich@gmu at March 31, 2014 04:07 PM (RhQvZ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 31, 2014 04:07 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 04:08 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: Mike in the Hinterlands at March 31, 2014 04:08 PM (DNpio)
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at March 31, 2014 08:05 PM (1mtKP)
Don't forget Roberts (I don't have your talent for nicknames).
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 31, 2014 04:08 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 31, 2014 04:08 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 31, 2014 04:09 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 04:09 PM (MMpL5)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 31, 2014 04:09 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 31, 2014 04:09 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 31, 2014 04:10 PM (M3hAT)
hillary clinton, (I know, I know, everyone hates that woman), will break the record for votes in 2016.
I just thought it was time for a female President.
--Jon Stewart fan
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 04:10 PM (J79eW)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 31, 2014 04:10 PM (n+8FE)
gonna be a bloodbath. hillary clinton....
Posted by: Soothsayer
Tell me something I don't know.
Posted by: Vince Foster
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 31, 2014 04:11 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 31, 2014 04:11 PM (3a584)
49 Prohibition was unrepealable too.
Yeah, but look at what a motivating factor booze is.
Most of the people here can't enjoy themselves without some good booze.
It's probably right up there with sex as far as most people's priorities go.
It's not the same.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 31, 2014 08:05 PM (4QSOR)
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You're right...it's not the same.
It's even *more* motivating than booze was.
Buying booze was always optional.
And...you can do without booze, but you can't do without healthcare.
At least, not if you want to live.
Posted by: wheatie at March 31, 2014 04:12 PM (m7/Sn)
ObamaCare repeal is going to need to accompany a dramatic overhaul of MediCaid. The GOP also needs to have some sort of conservative solution for those with prexisting conditions.
Posted by: McAdams at March 31, 2014 04:12 PM (dZ1C9)
Where do I go to vote yes for this?
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 31, 2014 04:12 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 31, 2014 04:12 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 31, 2014 04:12 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 04:13 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at March 31, 2014 08:05 PM (kFxpe)
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Apparently, the only hill the Senate R's want to die on is fighting the conservatives/tea party within their own base. I'm pretty confident in believing that if the R's take the Senate and Mitch McConnell reigns supreme, things will not change. Certainly not enough to right this ship. Things aren't going to change until the people already there are replaced.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 31, 2014 04:13 PM (tsGZY)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 31, 2014 04:14 PM (L02KD)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at March 31, 2014 04:14 PM (jucos)
Posted by: --- at March 31, 2014 04:14 PM (MMC8r)
Unless you get 67 votes in the senate and 292 votes in the house to override a veto, O-care is not getting repealed in 2015 or 2016.
Now let's say that a miracle happens and Hillary doesn't win in 2016. Well OK, then President Christine or Bush or whatever RINO is elected will repeal it right?
One can dream I suppose.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 31, 2014 04:15 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 31, 2014 07:55 PM (8ZskC) <<<
damn so you are telling me the dems might not do too badly this election.
Posted by: rich@gmu at March 31, 2014 04:15 PM (RhQvZ)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 04:16 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 31, 2014 04:16 PM (Dwehj)
If you nose around the statistics, you will notice that "ending welfare as we know it" correlated with an absolutely huge spike in claims of permanent disability. The dependent classes smoothly shifted from one set of benefit programs to another set.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 04:16 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 31, 2014 04:16 PM (o3MSL)
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Don't forget Ayotte. One of the biggest disappointments to come out of the Senate.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 31, 2014 04:17 PM (tsGZY)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 31, 2014 04:17 PM (n+8FE)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 04:17 PM (oMKp3)
Buying booze was always optional.
And...you can do without booze, but you can't do without healthcare.
At least, not if you want to live.
Sure, it's optional. But I'm talking about priorities. Pre-Obamacare MILLIONS of people went without health insurance because they just didn't prioritize it. They felt like it wasn't that important.
Just look at what people talk about for fun. On these boards it's guns and sex and booze. Do people talk about health insurance for fun? I don't think so. People talk about it because it concerns them.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 04:18 PM (J79eW)
As bad as Mitch often is, he's infinitely preferable to Dingy Harry.
Obama's life will get a whole lot more complicated without Reid running the Senate.
Also: SCOTUS and other federal court nominations. Without the filibuster, getting Senate control becomes of enormous importance, to stop Obama's court-packing.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 04:19 PM (noWW6)
A friend of mine just called to say that she was accepted as well.
Not saying that it would be a good thing to have Morons as election judges.
But, it certainly wouldn't be a bad thing.
If you have the time, consider checking with your County Election Officials, and see if they have openings.
Posted by: Pipe fitting for sale at March 31, 2014 04:20 PM (si68n)
If I were the type to bet on such events, I'd put money down that the Dems will consolidate their Senate majority.
It's obvious to me at this point people: this batch of Republicans in DC have that complex that leaves them in bootlickin' love with their kidnappers/torturers. They're happier thinking of themselves as hapless victims than winners.
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 31, 2014 04:20 PM (HVI5a)
Former Senate Majority Leader Hairy Reed.
That has a nice ring to it.
And while nothing major, like a Repeal-of-Ocare, would be signed by Barky...
They could still make life miserable for the Dems.
They could Pass a Budget...finally.
They could de-fund a lot of things.
And guys like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee could really cause some trouble for the GOPe...if there was an R-majority.
Posted by: wheatie at March 31, 2014 04:21 PM (m7/Sn)
I saw Guns And Sex And Booze open for pretty much every band I ever saw.
Posted by: Morons by the Horde at March 31, 2014 04:21 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 31, 2014 04:22 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 31, 2014 04:22 PM (si68n)
If you watch any of the daytime judge shows, all the slugs are on disability. The judge will ask each person probing questions. Without fail the ones that are clearly very dumb and attempting an outrageously stupid scam will be on disability.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 04:23 PM (J79eW)
Posted by: mugiwara at March 31, 2014 04:23 PM (3a584)
And one of Sarah Palin's endorsement misfires.
SP is so keen to bolster the ranks of conservative women in office, her "mama grizzlies", that she sometimes gets overenthusiastic and throws her support behind women who aren't necessarily all that conservative but who are women. Ayotte is emblematic.
Perhaps a return to "pick the most electable conservative candidate" is in order, and doing so without gender weighting the scale.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 04:23 PM (noWW6)
- Chris Matthews will become a full-fledged alcoholic.
- Harry Reid will absolutely refuse to give up his gavel and majority leader's cush office suite. He *wants* their to be video of him being literally dragged out of his office, where he can do his "oh poor me, I'm just a weak old man" schtick.
- Obama will go on vacation, and *never* come back.
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 31, 2014 04:24 PM (HVI5a)
The miracle would be a Prez Cruz or Perry or Paul signing an exec order saying implementation of Odeathcare is delayed indefinitely.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 04:25 PM (0Kobm)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 04:26 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 31, 2014 04:27 PM (IV4od)
Posted by: slime[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 04:27 PM (J79eW)
93...Just look at what people talk about for fun. On these boards it's guns and sex and booze. Do people talk about health insurance for fun? I don't think so. People talk about it because it concerns them.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 31, 2014 08:18 PM (J79eW)
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People talk about fun things...because they're fun to talk about.
Health Insurance is not fun.
But it is talked about a helluva lot here...just about as much as the fun stuff...since Ocare was forced on us.
With each passing month, Retailers are feeling the bite that Ocare is taking out of people's pockets.
The economy was already shitty...but it will get worse and worse, as more of people's spending money is being taken from them and poured into higher premiums.
Posted by: wheatie at March 31, 2014 04:27 PM (m7/Sn)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 04:28 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: Mindy at March 31, 2014 04:28 PM (Ew9Pv)
Posted by: Neverhappen at March 31, 2014 04:29 PM (IlFzi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 04:29 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: eman at March 31, 2014 04:29 PM (u9sBG)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 04:29 PM (HVff2)
Harry Reid will absolutely refuse to give up his gavel
Posted by: qdpsteve
I'd kinda like to see a 50/50 split, just because I know Mccain will vote for the Democrat. Bi-partisan effective government demands we give the President's party a voice ect. Which just happens to include a committee chairmanship for John, of course.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 31, 2014 04:29 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 04:30 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 04:31 PM (fWEL6)
McAdams, the "solution" for pre-existing conditions is called welfare. Or any other name that people might like, but that's what it is. "Insurance" is an actual business model - one of the foundations of the modern developed world, in fact. It is the simplest business model in the universe, as it is literally nothing more than applied math, based on long-term data. I know you know this - but in a country so dumbed-down (as always, I speak here strictly of "educated" people), probably beyond repair, recapturing the meaning of words is actually a big part of any probably-futile attempt to right the ship.
Pre-existing conditions cannot be "insured". Various schemes might succeed in spreading cost and risk around - though so far they have been tried and mostly failed, far as I know.
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 04:31 PM (afQnV)
I would like you to be right, but what does the public do during an economic downturn? Do they want the gov't pared back, regardless of impact? Or do they want it pared back as long as there is no personal reduction in government services.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 04:31 PM (45N4D)
how you doin'?
it must be jam because jelly don't drip like that
Posted by: slime at March 31, 2014 04:31 PM (hn5v5)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 04:31 PM (fWEL6)
117...What happened last time the GOP had all 3 branches?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 08:29 PM (HVff2)
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They cut Taxes.
But yeah...they also did some things that weren't so good.
Posted by: wheatie at March 31, 2014 04:32 PM (m7/Sn)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 31, 2014 08:27 PM (IV4od)
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The Chinese will lend us money for many decades to come. And the military will be gutted long before welfare is reduced. Math eventually does trump politics but president Sasha Obama will be in power when this happens.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 31, 2014 04:32 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: mongoos at March 31, 2014 04:34 PM (Zk6dA)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 04:34 PM (HLprW)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 04:35 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 04:36 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: IrishEd at March 31, 2014 04:36 PM (bfm04)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 31, 2014 04:38 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 04:38 PM (oMKp3)
ObamaCare repeal is going to need to accompany a dramatic overhaul of MediCaid. The GOP also needs to have some sort of conservative solution for those with prexisting conditions.
Posted by: McAdams at March 31, 2014 08:12 PM (dZ1C9)
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The thing about pre-existing conditions is that the very notion of "insuring" against them is absurd, so it plays into the Left's rhetorical construct.
That said, there have been various ideas floated for "pre-existing conditions insurance", where you buy insurance against the possibility of developing a pre-existing condition.
The only thing that Obamacare "accomplishes" that couldn't have been accomplished in the private insurance market is the redistribution of health care dollars from the healthy to the unhealthy. Given that the Left generally sides with scum, parasites and the other flotsam and jetsam that Nature has vomited up in the modern age, this is no surprise. And Obamacare isn't "private insurance". They are using private insurers as a distribution system, but the product design is pure government handiwork.
Posted by: Socrates at March 31, 2014 04:39 PM (A9F3C)
Posted by: f'd at March 31, 2014 04:39 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: and irresolute at March 31, 2014 04:39 PM (RqHWH)
Posted by: Abe Simpson at March 31, 2014 04:40 PM (JSrm8)
140 Obamacare is here to stay ..just like a bad tattoo.
But even bad tattoos can be removed.
It leaves a scar...but they can be removed.
Posted by: wheatie at March 31, 2014 04:41 PM (m7/Sn)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 04:42 PM (oMKp3)
That's about the 5th time I've heard this in the last few days. Before that, never. This is clearly a push by the Dems to convince people that repealing OCare is impossible, so don't try. Methinks they protest too much.
Posted by: pep at March 31, 2014 04:43 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 31, 2014 04:43 PM (IXrOn)
For the GOP to take the Senate, after the damage caused by the shutdown, the only solution is amnesty.
(OK, rather than get a surprising number of enraged responses that assume the idiotic statement above is anything but sarcasm ...... IT'S SARCASM! Probably only because I've given up any real hope, I enjoy reprising some of the astonishingly clueless stuff that comes out of the mouths of Beltway/GOPe types ...... and also, incomprehensibly, out of the keyboards of some our smartest commenters here)
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 04:43 PM (afQnV)
Why cause you believe it to be so? We don't have any basis to assume that, we are in uncharted territory here, maybe something magical will happen but there's no evidence it will. We have country after country with the debt to GDP ratio over 200% and we'll be there soon. To think the world can continue for decades that way is insane.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 31, 2014 04:43 PM (IV4od)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 04:44 PM (oMKp3)
Even if they do manage to gain control of congress, as many here have pointed out, they won't do anything. How many government programs, once put in place, are then removed? I can think of one: Prohibition.
The rest have remained like inoperable tumors.
Posted by: Null at March 31, 2014 04:44 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 31, 2014 04:44 PM (IXrOn)
"The important thing is to get Harry Reid's criminal ass out of control."
As bad as Mitch often is, he's infinitely preferable to Dingy Harry.
Obama's life will get a whole lot more complicated without Reid running the Senate.
Also: SCOTUS and other federal court nominations. Without the filibuster, getting Senate control becomes of enormous importance, to stop Obama's court-packing.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 08:19 PM (noWW6)
Yeah, well, the Retarded Turtle McConnell already said he's going to restore those filibuster rules that Pedo Harry shat on.
If only one good thing came out of the 2014 elections, I would want it to be McConnell's defeat. Well, that and we take back the senate. Pure joy.
Posted by: joanne at March 31, 2014 04:45 PM (s/quq)
I'd put any unhealthy person who felt they had the right to enslave the majority to give them functionally free insurance perhaps not scum but definitely a "symbiotic" if I am in a generous mood.
They want "gifts" not "insurance"....there is no actuarial based paradigm that says "er uh get outta jail free card"....
I have pre-existing conditions tricare deftly avoids....
you know the "govt ran" health insurance of benign unicorns....?
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2014 04:45 PM (TE35l)
It's definitely repealable
Posted by: McAdams
Well, Reince and Co. took a number of items off the table, saying the Republicans will keep the prior conditions, 26 year old kid and other provisions. And there is no way the Republicans will vote to cut back the expanded Medicaid.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 31, 2014 04:45 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 31, 2014 04:46 PM (jNNWD)
Come January 2015 the "pragmatists" in the GOP will be preaching the same shit.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 31, 2014 04:46 PM (IV4od)
We hold and take both House and Senate, then grab the WH.
What a mess to clean up, though.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 31, 2014 08:38 PM (IXrOn)
What do you mean "we", conservative TEA Party interloper?
Posted by: Boehner/Cantor/McConnell/McCain/Ayotte/ at March 31, 2014 04:46 PM (o3MSL)
Yup ONLY donkey gets to play "do whatever the fuck I want"...
I'm donating at least a hundred to Bitch McDonald's opponent.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 31, 2014 04:46 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Juan McCain at March 31, 2014 04:48 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 04:48 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: lowandslow at March 31, 2014 08:46 PM (IV4od)
We aren't going to wait that long!
Posted by: Boehner/Cantor/McConnell/McCain/Ayotte/ at March 31, 2014 04:48 PM (o3MSL)
Something's very different now. It isn't just the obvious loons saying this. The heavy hitters are doing it now. They're clearly scared.
(I've really gotta stop watching House of Cards. I get all the cynical backstabbing with none of the hot journalist action.)
Posted by: pep at March 31, 2014 04:49 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 04:50 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at March 31, 2014 04:52 PM (L02KD)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 04:53 PM (HVff2)
Good point, LDC. Which confirms that this particularly stupid chapter in our national history will in fact lead to absolutely no gains or lessons learned. Just keep the massive dysfunction of the previous medical finance system (distorted by federal tax code, mangled beyond recognition by federal and state mandates, cartelized by state regulation), tack on the particularly stupid pre-existing condition crap, season with the jaw-dropping 26-yr olds as "children" dependents, and top off with massive subsidies so that more people can flush more national money down the toilet.
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 04:54 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at March 31, 2014 04:54 PM (H01/i)
Which is going to be worse for our collective blood pressure: Senate majority leader Reid continuing to be the delusional pederast we all know and love, or senate majority leader McConnell?
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget
How about Senate Republican who gets it if McConnell isn't re-elected, which could happen.
And I don't really know who that would be.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 31, 2014 04:55 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Paul Ryan at March 31, 2014 04:55 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 31, 2014 08:16 PM (o3MSL)<<<
My friends.
Posted by: rich@gmu at March 31, 2014 04:55 PM (RhQvZ)
Posted by: K. Rove, Chairman, Committee to Elect Jeb Bush at March 31, 2014 04:56 PM (1mtKP)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 04:56 PM (HLprW)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 04:56 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: John Boehner at March 31, 2014 04:57 PM (FJL/j)
Posted by: Zombie Helen Thomas at March 31, 2014 04:57 PM (HLprW)
Posted by: f'd at March 31, 2014 04:58 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 31, 2014 04:59 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2014 04:59 PM (FJL/j)
I wouldn't put the unhealthy in the same category as scum and parasites.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 08:42 PM (oMKp3)"
If those unhealthy vote for Democrats, that's exactly where I'd put them. Fair point, though, there are unhealthy people with enough of a sense of social responsibility to understand that just because they were dealt a bad health hand doesn't give them the right to reach into some other person's pocket to pay the bills.
Posted by: Socrates at March 31, 2014 04:59 PM (A9F3C)
Which would be good.
It would? Getting a lot more of the same GOP we have now, the GOP that is pushing amnesty as hard as it can, the GOP that has declared war on the Tea Party, that GOP, would be good?
I'm skeptical.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 31, 2014 04:59 PM (I8YZX)
I saw Guns And Sex And Booze open for pretty much every band I ever saw.
Posted by: Morons by the Horde at March 31, 2014 08:21 PM (1CroS)<<<
wasn't their biggest hit "...in my ass"
Posted by: rich@gmu at March 31, 2014 05:00 PM (RhQvZ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 05:00 PM (HVff2)
I'm also fine with some boots being put into his ribs in the process.
Someone here order a cat'o'nine tails?
Posted by: Fed Ex guy at March 31, 2014 05:00 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Juan McCain at March 31, 2014 05:00 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 31, 2014 05:01 PM (BJSAO)
Anyone here think that amnesty is not essentially guaranteed in the lame duck, whatever the final score the day after Election Day? For obvious reasons.
So any sane, intelligent GOP supporters won't have to actually wait until the next Congress for their disappointment/horror. The disastrously stupid, incredibly offensive assault on rule of law and fairness, and genuflection to racism and clueless greed will probably follow within a week or two. As in 2010, when the stunning election results were immediately followed by GOP surrender of a strong procedural hand, allowing DADT repeal, the new nuke arms agreement, and other stupid crap to be passed in the lame duck.
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 05:01 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 05:01 PM (HLprW)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 05:03 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 05:04 PM (HVff2)
This.
Posted by: OregonMuse at March 31, 2014 05:04 PM (I8YZX)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 05:05 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2014 05:05 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at March 31, 2014 05:06 PM (jNNWD)
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 31, 2014 05:06 PM (6o11m)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 05:06 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: navybrat at March 31, 2014 05:07 PM (JgC5a)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 05:07 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Peaches at March 31, 2014 05:07 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 05:07 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 05:08 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Peaches at March 31, 2014 05:09 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 05:10 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 05:10 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 31, 2014 05:10 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Jeb "Packer Fan" Bush at March 31, 2014 05:11 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 05:11 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 05:12 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 05:12 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Mitt Rombley at March 31, 2014 05:13 PM (JQuNB)
those RINO fucks will still play reach around with the Demonrats in the name of "bipartisanship" and continue to screw us all.
Let.
It.
Burn.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 31, 2014 05:13 PM (q+fqH)
The goddamned 55MPH speed limit. Remember that?
Of course, if we would simply adopt the sensible policy that all legislation must automatically sunset and be renewed at some reasonable interval, say, ten years, the 55 would probably have been gone by the early Eighties.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 05:13 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 05:13 PM (HLprW)
Posted by: N.H. Primary Voters at March 31, 2014 05:14 PM (Aif/5)
Let.
It.
Burn.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 31, 2014 09:13 PM (q+fqH)
this right here
Posted by: Peaches at March 31, 2014 05:14 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Chris Christie--A Bridge Too Far at March 31, 2014 05:14 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 05:14 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 05:14 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 31, 2014 05:15 PM (SztpP)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 05:15 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Peggy Nooner at March 31, 2014 05:16 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 05:16 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 31, 2014 05:17 PM (60Vyp)
I knew the coming election would affect me directly since I am self-employed as a survivalist/prepper instructor and have always had to pay taxes out-of-pocket. Sure enough I get huge tax bill this year. Naturally I was pretty steamed. At the IRS. At Washington. Even at Obama himself for promising I could keep my hard-earned money.
Then I start hearing all these horror stories from the Republicans in Congress and on Fox about the coming election. Millions are losing their representation (like me!), the voter registration is difficult to use, the candidates are more aggressive, the policies are insane. I was getting angrier by the day.
But in my line of work results are all that matter so I decided to try voting Democrat. Lo and behold there were no problems voting absentee. I'm going to be honest, I'm paying $14 a month more in taxes. But that's with a free phone and thanks to the Democrats we no longer have to worry about employment or retirement savings.
I'm fortunate enough in life I don't qualify for EITC but I can only imagine what a great deal the handouts must be for those who aren't as fortunate.
Voting Democrat turned out to be a great deal for me despite my initial skepticism and anger. SSDI works. But don't take my or anyone else's word for it. Go to the polling booth and see for yourself.
Posted by: Gunnar Hammersmith at March 31, 2014 05:17 PM (r0+v0)
Do they do Lasik one eye at a time?
Maybe I'll just do one eye, and wear a unicle until I do the other eye.
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at March 31, 2014 09:05 PM (fWEL6)
++++
Damn! Grey Fox beat me to it. I wanted to be first to mock you.
I'm sure they would be happy to Lasik you one eye at a time, as long as you are willing to pay the premium. I suspect they will want close to double the price if they need to do two separate procedures on you.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 31, 2014 05:17 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 05:17 PM (HLprW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 05:18 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 05:18 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Soothsayer, wearing a unicle at March 31, 2014 05:18 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 05:18 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: CAC at March 31, 2014 05:18 PM (hEN3E)
WR-
M 5.0 - 132km SW of Ongjin, North KoreaDYFI? - IVTime2014-03-31 15:48:36 UTC-04:00Location36.953°N 124.511°EDepth15.9km
crap. too deep so maybe it was just an earthquake.
Posted by: rich@gmu at March 31, 2014 05:19 PM (RhQvZ)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 05:19 PM (HLprW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 05:19 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Peter King at March 31, 2014 05:19 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 05:20 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 05:20 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 31, 2014 05:20 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 05:20 PM (HLprW)
-------------
Private insurance is when I decline or purchase collision on my auto policy once the car is paid off. The Obamacare products were designed around necessitating the purchase of coverage at actuarially-unjustifiable prices to facilitate the transfer of dollars which could have been used for any purpose by the healthy to the unhealthy for their use in purchasing health care procedures. The government is using the private sector as a distribution mechanism, but all of the important decisions are out of the private sectors hands and in the hands of HHS. Carney is an idiot, so he has plausible deniability here, but I'm betting he's just blowing smoke for the mouth-breathers that hang on every word coming out of the White House or the DNC.
Posted by: Socrates at March 31, 2014 05:20 PM (A9F3C)
Where it gets murky is, the petition was filed by someone claiming to be the father of one of the missing people. But someone else who claims to be part of the same family says none of them authorized anyone to file any legal claims and the person is not the father of the victim.
From CNN - http://tinyurl.com/lbomgbj
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 05:20 PM (YV5Kj)
Posted by: Soothsayer, wearing a unicle at March 31, 2014 05:20 PM (fWEL6)
rickl, actually, the AUMF for the post-9/11 period and Iraq were very detailed and long-winded declarations of war, in effect. Suppose it would have been (out place, but funny) humor if someone had tacked on to each resolution "We hereby declare war". Funny mostly to see what the Luap Nor idiots would then say.
OregonMuse, the one not-implausible claim for a GOP Senate I have read is that it could choke off the pipeline of absurdly un-American soft-fascist authoritarian "judges" being appointed by these stupid fringe freaks in the WH. Maybe. The kook from Philly was recently sidelined, but that might have been because the notoriety of his bad connections is high on the scale.
To darken everyone's day, as a near life-long Beltway denizen who spent many many years working in the Senate and other institutions in DC - thus with as practical and first-hand a perspective as anyone - I see very little changing/being prevented from a GOP Senate. That is, one dominated by the incredibly tiny characters that make up the GOP (and most of the Beltway, in general) today.
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 05:23 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at March 31, 2014 05:23 PM (rakCv)
Posted by: pep at March 31, 2014 05:24 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Ann Coulter at March 31, 2014 05:25 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: The Gee Oh Pee at March 31, 2014 05:25 PM (HLprW)
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 09:23 PM (afQnV)
Welcome to the party, pal.
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 31, 2014 05:26 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: teej at March 31, 2014 05:27 PM (AoY8i)
. LOL
Big hugs to you teejPosted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 05:28 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:29 PM (yz6yg)
Socrates, I hereby deputize you to make my comments on insurance matters. Pithy and accurate.
Interesting idea for all here: quiz your acquaintances and family as to their understanding of what "insurance" is? The devastatingly poor results from that little exercise should flush out any last little ray of hope you might - inexplicably - still have ....
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 05:30 PM (afQnV)
... such as the MSM carrying the Democrats over the finish line.
Posted by: Bob-O at March 31, 2014 05:32 PM (PXnNl)
Posted by: Bob Guccione, Jr at March 31, 2014 05:32 PM (0FSuD)
You are so stooped if you think that the racist party (Republicans) will take the senate. The people so love our black president!!!!
Posted by: Richard Cranium at March 31, 2014 05:33 PM (hRHQJ)
No, DangerGirl, I was setting up the keg for the party, I'm not just getting there.
Just figured I'd toss my little weak appeal-to-authority comment in, for fun.
To an alarming degree, I find the tactical and substantive commentary here by some who don the mantle of practical realism to be plain silly, based on my own long and direct experience.
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 05:33 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at March 31, 2014 05:34 PM (yz6yg)
I had to have cataract surgery when I was in my late 30's. Strange.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 31, 2014 05:34 PM (IV4od)
Posted by: The Gee Oh Pee at March 31, 2014 05:34 PM (HLprW)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2014 05:35 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 05:35 PM (aDwsi)
Personally, my friend, I think the majority of the posters here are on the same page as you and I. And the rest are either lying to themselves or traitors to the party in their own right.
Posted by: DangerGirl at March 31, 2014 05:35 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 05:36 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 05:36 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Daybrother at March 31, 2014 05:37 PM (DAcmg)
Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2014 05:39 PM (sdi6R)
Amnesty. By Thanksgiving.
And if for some unforeseen reason that fails to happen, even better: the most brazen and aggressive EO yet, one that will expand the already-broad de facto repeal of most immigration law with an in-your-face directive to ICE to suspend ALL deportations, cease even the laughable fake background checks for DREAMERs, and cease co-operation with all state govts. (a la AZ).
Like some here, part of me *almost* wants to see something like that happen. The country is a huge car wreck scene, and while make a habit of never rubber-necking at real crash scenes, this one is irresistible (aside from directly hugely negatively affecting me personally). Would be interesting to see if there is ANY life left in the constitutional system, at all.
Most likely outcome: "it's dead, Jim"
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 05:39 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Bill Maher at March 31, 2014 05:41 PM (JQuNB)
Certainly encouraging to see all the unbridled optimism displayed here.
gives a fella a warm feeling.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 31, 2014 05:43 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at March 31, 2014 05:45 PM (dTh2r)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 05:46 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 31, 2014 05:47 PM (n+8FE)
Posted by: SMOD at March 31, 2014 05:47 PM (ofpPn)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 05:47 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2014 05:48 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 09:39 PM (afQnV)
guess i don't come here to be cheered up. is that the scuttlebutt on the hill or fingertipfeel?
Posted by: rich@gmu at March 31, 2014 05:49 PM (RhQvZ)
Posted by: CAC at March 31, 2014 05:49 PM (hEN3E)
I'll pull for him!
Posted by: Anthony "little" Wiener at March 31, 2014 05:50 PM (0AKks)
In case it wasn't obvious, I do work in the industry. You're right, it's very rare that someone understands what insurance is. In fact, there's a book called "Insurance & Behavioral Economics: Improving Decisions in the Most Misunderstood Industry" and I don't think the title is an exaggeration. Democrats play off of that misunderstanding to facilitate their political goal of control over health care spending and dumbasses who fancy themselves smartypants eat it up.
Posted by: Socrates at March 31, 2014 05:52 PM (A9F3C)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 05:52 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 05:54 PM (YV5Kj)
Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2014 05:55 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 05:57 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 05:57 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2014 05:59 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2014 05:59 PM (mizYg)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 06:00 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 06:01 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: TexasJew at March 31, 2014 06:01 PM (U+u4A)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at March 31, 2014 06:01 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: eman at March 31, 2014 06:02 PM (AO9UG)
rich-at-gmu: no, do not work there now, haven't for years, but my perspective is based on many years of doing so - so my feeling may be completely wrong, but experience plus current data gives little reason for optimism. I did note the plausible impact on judicial appointments. A GOP Senate would, obviously, have at least the potential of being a speed-bump. But the fairly anemic performance of the House after the tsunami of 2010 is a pretty damning indicator of likely performance by the GOP.
Socrates: almost all of the most important shit in society and the world is, actually, extremely simple. The basic business model of real insurance stands out, as few businesses are little more than applied math/statistics. But that is quantum mechanics to today's dumbed-down "elite" types. As is the key role that insurance has played in the modern economy of the world. Clean water, secured debt, insurance - three factors without which today's world would not have been possible. And two out of the three are under assault. Mind-boggling.
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 06:02 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 06:02 PM (aDwsi)
If there are any nads there at all, they probably borrowed 'em from Rick Perry, who clearly has extra.
Posted by: Peaches at March 31, 2014 06:03 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at March 31, 2014 06:03 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 06:04 PM (Ft87j)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 06:04 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: eman at March 31, 2014 06:04 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 31, 2014 06:04 PM (n+8FE)
Posted by: Soothsayer, wearing a unicle at March 31, 2014 06:05 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 06:05 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 10:04 PM (Ft87j)
yeah, she'll bring it like the cubbies . . . 
Posted by: Peaches at March 31, 2014 06:05 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 06:06 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: eman at March 31, 2014 06:06 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 06:07 PM (Ft87j)
eman, I am intrigued and wonder if you have a newsletter.
But really - do you mean Dem/GOP incentive of more power is the main one, and of course pulls in the direction of non-repeal? (just guessing here)
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 06:07 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 06:08 PM (Ft87j)
Posted by: eleven at March 31, 2014 06:08 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at March 31, 2014 06:09 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 06:09 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 06:10 PM (Ft87j)
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 10:02 PM (afQnV)
I have to go with your judgment on this. Have a feeling Congress - in the middle of the night - some sort of amnesty lite is going to be passed. and I don't have much hope even with majorities in both houses.
Posted by: rich@gmu at March 31, 2014 06:11 PM (RhQvZ)
Posted by: Peaches at March 31, 2014 06:11 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 06:12 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 06:12 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at March 31, 2014 06:12 PM (n+8FE)
Palin as president would cause the left to die of the fantods.
Along with some of the right.
And I would laugh and laugh.
Posted by: irongrampa at March 31, 2014 06:12 PM (SAMxH)
I have been saying this over and over, the establishments in both parties have the votes for amnesty, they are just waiting (the GOP) until after the November elections to do it so there will not be any repercussions for them.
Because seriously, who ELSE are you gonna vote for? (In the mind of the GOP)
Posted by: NWConservative at March 31, 2014 06:12 PM (buZ/8)
Oh - standard disclaimer - no less than the ridiculous "president", the GOP and Dems are a symptom, not a cause. Sure - the freaks of the Dem party and the empty suits in the GOP do not represent your average moron here - but they sure as hell, on average and over time, represent a working majority of the country.
No excuse - press distortion, being busy, falling for the ridiculous pitches made by pols (in many Dems' cases, the gap between their campaigns and actual voting is breath-taking, esp. outside the northeast) - changes this.
So here we (rightly) whine and fulminate about individuals and the party, but as I always say, the proper target of your ire (well, most of it) is that in-law, that softball team member, that work colleague, that church member, that nice guy at the auto shop, et al. THEY are what makes the current national debacle possible.
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 06:13 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 31, 2014 06:13 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 06:13 PM (GEICT)
The might have a chance now that that goat similator came out.
Posted by: The Hickster at March 31, 2014 06:13 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 06:13 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: French Commie at March 31, 2014 06:14 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: eman at March 31, 2014 06:15 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: navycopjoe at March 31, 2014 06:16 PM (Ft87j)
Posted by: DC in Towson at March 31, 2014 06:16 PM (Pvcl5)
Posted by: Soothsayer, wearing a unicle at March 31, 2014 06:16 PM (fWEL6)
Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:17 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: John "Deeply Closeted" Boehner at March 31, 2014 06:17 PM (JQuNB)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 06:18 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Mohammed Al Mohammed at March 31, 2014 06:18 PM (kFxpe)
holy shit, thunderb . . . every time I think I have it tough I think about stuff like this and soldier on. hanging out of a truck while you're burning to death and no one can help you and you're still sentient? fuck.
Posted by: Peaches at March 31, 2014 06:19 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 06:19 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Barack Obama at March 31, 2014 06:19 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:19 PM (zOTsN)
Had a job as a shipping clerk at a logistics company. They were, by far, the worst carrier we worked with.
Posted by: Adam at March 31, 2014 06:20 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:20 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 06:21 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Countrysquire at March 31, 2014 06:22 PM (8FyP4)
Posted by: Adam at March 31, 2014 06:22 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: DC in Towson at March 31, 2014 06:22 PM (Pvcl5)
Posted by: NCwoof at March 31, 2014 06:23 PM (aUQgu)
For a second, consider how incredibly stupid and naive amnesty would be.
Leave out that it would be a spectacular assault on the rule of law, and the essence of unfairness, not to mention a major victory for racism and top-down governance. Ignore all that for a moment.
Amnesty will not solve a single problem. It will - as surely as water runs downhill - in fact exacerbate every problem connected to illegal immigration. Why? Uh ..... because it will confirm that there never will be any immigration enforcement ("never" in a practical sense, from the perspective of rational would-be illegal immigrants). Y'all come on down, 'hear?
The 1986 act, on which I worked, has its own disastrous legacy - due to amnesty. Not only was amnesty guaranteed to make matters worse - absent enforcement of the other two elements of Simpson-Mazzoli - but even the amnesty ITSELF wasn't enforced/implemented properly. The estimated fraud in that process was massive.
Amnesty will tremendously exacerbate every related problem - public school and public welfare burdens, ERs closing, crime (I believe in recent years, at one point, over 90% - look at that number again - of outstanding felony warrants in LA County were for non-citizens), on and on. Why? Because it will only mean, that for every bit of economic growth/job availability that manages to emerge from the suffocating policy environment in the US, even more illegals will come. Because easier, and really no prospect of law enforcement.
Posted by: non-purist at March 31, 2014 06:24 PM (afQnV)
so, what you're saying is, California will go nation-wide? yup, hang onto your hats, kids, that is exactly where this train is headed.
Posted by: Peaches at March 31, 2014 06:26 PM (8lmkt)
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Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 31, 2014 06:26 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 06:28 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Countrysquire at March 31, 2014 06:30 PM (8FyP4)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 06:30 PM (m3zod)
"GOP Now Has 80% Chance of Recapturing the Senate"
And do what with the Senate? See, this is my problem: I no longer believe that the GOP will promote and fight for pro-liberty / limited government principals.
They just want power - they think they'd just be better managers of big government.
I don't want big government. I want freedom.
Posted by: Lily at March 31, 2014 06:51 PM (dXCcK)
Posted by: thunderb at March 31, 2014 10:19 PM (zOTsN)
Practically every big rig on the road has a fire extinguisher in the cab, accessible from a small door on the outside. Usually bearing a painted-on sign: "Fire Extinguisher Inside". Of course it's possible the wreck made it inaccessible.
Everyone really should carry a fire extinguisher in every car they drive. Most of my drivers have one.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 31, 2014 07:14 PM (Kq88q)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at March 31, 2014 08:48 PM (rakCv)
It will never be repealed.
Posted by: ThreePercent at April 01, 2014 05:25 AM (YPypU)
So when does Chuck Todd run for office? Media - politicians - criminal - All the same thing.
Posted by: burt at April 01, 2014 05:51 AM (1+kJ5)
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