January 24, 2014

AOSHQDD: A Quick Look at the Gubernatorial Contests.
— CAC

In gigantic, margin-shredding map style.

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It's been a while since we've had any discussion on the upcoming gubernatorial races. Democrats have their sights set on Pennsylvania, where Corbett has been floundering, along with Maine and Florida, whose respective GOP governors face underwater approval ratings. Republicans, on the other hand, are targeting states they missed by a few thousand votes: Illinois and Connecticut; and a few others that evaded them in 2010 but changing political environments within each have brought them within range: Arkansas and Colorado.

So we all understand what I mean by Safe, Likely, Moderate, Lean, and Tossup, here's a brief explanation that will hold true in election posts here as well as my work over at The Federalist:
Safe: barring extraordinary circumstances, the indicated party will hold this seat by a comfortable margin.
Likely: while it is highly likely the indicated party will hold this seat, and by a margin greater than ten points, it isn't out of the realm of possibility things can change.
Moderate: the indicated party is favored to carry the seat by a margin less than ten points, and if conditions run against their favor, this seat can become competitive.
Lean: a competitive race which still has a favorite to be decided by less than five points.
Toss-up: your guess is as good as mine.

So, which races are on your mind? Which Republican and Democrat-held governors' mansions do you feel are more vulnerable (or safer) than I have pegged?

Update: a lot of you Pennsylvanians have pretty strong opinions about Tom Corbett, so here's a quick poll for ya.

PA Governor Tom Corbett has atrocious numbers, and has had them for some time now. With the election just months out, should Gov. Corbett Step Aside?
  
pollcode.com free polls 

Posted by: CAC at 03:52 PM | Comments (307)
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1 Corbett's going by by

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 04:05 PM (LSDdO)

2 You are totally making up half the names on that map aren't you?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 24, 2014 04:08 PM (RZ8pf)

3 The prodigal returns

Posted by: Boone at January 24, 2014 04:08 PM (Ir3Un)

4 I'm rooting for that Open guy.

Posted by: Bigby's Empty Hands at January 24, 2014 04:09 PM (KgN8K)

5 there is no way you could convince me to vote for corbett I'm getting my hair did that day

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 24, 2014 04:09 PM (IHUra)

6 Hick in CO is in trouble if the opponent runs the correct (anti-gun control) campaign.

Also could somebody get the Mars Rover a donut or something for its 10 year anniversary.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 24, 2014 04:10 PM (n0DEs)

7 Pennsylvania mystifies me.

Penn State crippled Corbett, and everyone knows he's sunk in November.  And yet, where's the high-profile primary challenger in the GOP?  We saved Nevada in 2010 by primarying a weak governor with a stronger candidate.  Pennsylvania's just as bluish purple, and crickets from the GOP.

And don't say, "There's no GOPer high-profile enough to do it."  A run like this would make the name of a regionally famous politician.  Bucks County state legislators, anyone?

Posted by: Lou at January 24, 2014 04:10 PM (VR5Zz)

8 Corbett is worse that fast fucking Eddie and that's saying something goddamn it worthless weird old grumpy statist. and our legislature is full of DIABLOs or some sort of evil republican corporatist/unionist/statist nightmare nanny types

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 24, 2014 04:11 PM (IHUra)

9 PA's prominent legislators are all quitting (Gerlach) or actually more statist than dems so I have no idea who would primary Corbett it sucks

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 24, 2014 04:11 PM (IHUra)

10 Open my ass! I'm running

Posted by: Sherriff Joe Arpaio at January 24, 2014 04:12 PM (N3Al8)

11 >>>so I have no idea who would primary Corbett


OK Imma write Alan Keyes for you

Posted by: Bigby's Empty Hands at January 24, 2014 04:12 PM (KgN8K)

12 Corbett should not run for re-election, frankly, he is so damaged.

Posted by: neoavatara at January 24, 2014 04:13 PM (5RfLM)

13 I don't know about the final race but currently I'll be voting for Kasich's Primary opponent.

Posted by: buzzion at January 24, 2014 04:14 PM (LI48c)

14 With  a name like Smuckers it has to be good.

Posted by: Gov Hickenlooper at January 24, 2014 04:14 PM (N3Al8)

15 Am I reading this right? IL and CT are tossups? And CO too? Ohhh kay.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 04:14 PM (0LHZx)

16
"Republicans, on the other hand, are targeting states they missed by a few thousand votes....Connecticut"






Gee -- I wonder who's gonna get blamed if the Republican candidate loses in Connecticut.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 24, 2014 04:15 PM (kdS6q)

17 "Republicans, on the other hand, are targeting states they missed by a few thousand votes....Connecticut" _________ I'll make sure the Democrat wins.

Posted by: A few thousand ballots found in the back seat of someone's car at January 24, 2014 04:16 PM (0LHZx)

18

Here in Colorado, dems are getting hurt pretty badly by dem policies, which is good.  The problem is that this state turned from red to blue pretty quickly not just because of left leanings in the major urban areas, but also because of Republican suckitude.  That still persists.  This state could turn red pretty easy again imio, if the R's stop sucking so badly.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 04:18 PM (BZAd3)

19 I can't imagine SC really electing a Democrat...

Posted by: Daily Reminder Guy at January 24, 2014 04:18 PM (6j8ke)

20 NY sucks but maybe I'll go cast a few votes around Danbury, CT and offset a few zombie donk votes.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 24, 2014 04:19 PM (3a584)

21 LoneStarHeeb, I thought you were in Texas. I collect Coloradoans for CO Morondezvous.

Posted by: Mindy at January 24, 2014 04:21 PM (mQwL2)

22 20 NY sucks but maybe I'll go cast a few votes around Danbury, CT and offset a few zombie donk votes.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 24, 2014 08:19 PM (3a584)


I'll go up there with you.  We'll act like we don't speak English and don't have any ID's.  That way we'll be able to cast a few dozen votes apiece.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 04:21 PM (BZAd3)

23 Thanks for all the work you do in the trenches CAC . You're a good egg .

Posted by: awkward davies at January 24, 2014 04:21 PM (WK8VM)

24 Meatball still bogarts the plaid maps.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 24, 2014 04:22 PM (aYjRw)

25 Nice map...but it's not blowing my margins or anything.

Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2014 04:22 PM (ge6S7)

26 Hick could be in trouble with the right challenger, but Tancredo is already talking about running. He's a one trick pony about immigration. If he runs as an independent he could split the vote. For senator, I think Udall may have a hard run if someone good was to challenge him.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 04:23 PM (SudzO)

27 >>>We'll act like we don't speak English and don't have anyID's.


Just keep mumbling stuff about yor coozans quinceanera

Posted by: Bigby's Empty Hands at January 24, 2014 04:23 PM (KgN8K)

28 20 NY sucks but maybe I'll go cast a few votes around Danbury, CT and offset a few zombie donk votes.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 24, 2014 08:19 PM (3a584)


I'm from Texas. Only exiled to Colorado temporarily, I hope.  Let me know when the next one is and I'll do my best to show up.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 04:23 PM (BZAd3)

29 Here in Colorado, dems are getting hurt pretty badly by dem policies, which is good. The problem is that this state turned from red to blue pretty quickly not just because of left leanings in the major urban areas, but also because of Republican suckitude. That still persists. This state could turn red pretty easy again imio, if the R's stop sucking so badly. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 08:18 PM (BZAd3) ______________ The same thing happened in Nevada, went from solid red to solid blue overnight. It's the same reason as CO...migration from Mexico and California. And I don't think it matters how good or bad the GOP is. These people will never for "R".

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 04:23 PM (0LHZx)

30 What's everyone's problem with Tom Corbett? I'm damn glad he's been my Governor and will gladly vote for him again. He's balanced four budgets without raising taxes, he has kept the anti-fracking lunatics at bay, and generally driven Democrats nuts. My kind of Governor! The Dems are going to have a bloodbath primary here, just like they did in the Senate race in 2010 which helped us elect Pat Toomey. The likely winner is Allyson Schwartz, who is a former abortion clinic owner and personality-free. Today Schwartz resigned from her co-chairmanship of Third Way after getting the shit beat out of her by the progs. She's going to have to run hard left to win the primary and I'm sorry, Pennsylvania just is not a hard left state. If that race can't get conservatives fired up, I don't know what will.

Posted by: rockmom at January 24, 2014 04:25 PM (vE1mx)

31 MA is only moderate "D"? Errrr...what? And yes I know, MA elected a whole bunch of Republican governors in the 90s and 00s. But those days are long gone.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 04:26 PM (0LHZx)

32 What?  You give Abortion Barbie no chance in TX?  Shocker.

Posted by: dogfish at January 24, 2014 04:26 PM (nsOJa)

33 In Co the rural areas are still pretty red, not counting the mountain resorts and the front range. Pueblo showed pretty blue, but they still recalled the state senator. The Cali/Mi migration into the front range had a lot to do with the change in party and of course there is always the Peoples Republic of Boulder, or Berkley East as I prefer to call it.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 04:27 PM (SudzO)

34

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 08:23 PM (SudzO)


Dems should be in a lot of trouble in CO.  They've angered just about everyone from insulting them, to taking Bloomberg money for gun control, to acting like Obama puppets.

This state is pretty independent and a Libertarian candidate would probably do well here.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 04:28 PM (BZAd3)

35 I don't know about the final race but currently I'll be voting for Kasich's Primary opponent. Posted by: buzzion The last year or two has been disappointing, hasn't it? His triangulation will win him few votes from the center - left and he has pissed off his base.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 24, 2014 04:28 PM (+1T7c)

36 The same thing happened in Nevada, went from solid red to solid blue overnight. It's the same reason as CO...migration from Mexico and California. And I don't think it matters how good or bad the GOP is. These people will never for "R".

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GOP is doomed. They don't know it yet. At a State level they might be eh-OK maybe.

Posted by: Bigby's Empty Hands at January 24, 2014 04:28 PM (KgN8K)

37 Dayton barely won in 2010. And the people of Minnesota have had to listen to that mumbling idiot for 3 years now. So I'd like to believe Minnesotans wont vote him again. But it is Minnesota so he's probably a lock.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 24, 2014 04:28 PM (TI3xG)

38 Let me know when the next one is and I'll do my best to show up. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 08:23 PM (BZAd3) Awesome! We're looking at Spring in Wheatridge, with RightlySouthern manning the grill and Westminsterdogshow giving us the lowdown on local politics and Colorado Alex updating us on national defense.

Posted by: Mindy at January 24, 2014 04:28 PM (mQwL2)

39 Do not doubt me.

Posted by: Republican Suckitude at January 24, 2014 04:29 PM (HgfyP)

40 Republicans win a statewide race in Connecticutt? Surely, you jest.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 24, 2014 04:30 PM (+1T7c)

41

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 08:23 PM (SudzO)


Cool.  I'll look forward to it.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 04:30 PM (BZAd3)

42 33 In Co the rural areas are still pretty red, ______ Big deal. Every rural county in every state is pretty red. Including CA, NY, MD, WA, OR. Doesn't mean shit since % wise they constitute a small minority.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 04:31 PM (0LHZx)

43 Jerry Brown has turned this state around, and we will be riding our high speed train to glory in short order.Oh ,and no new guns or bullets either. And screw those google assholes who have free rides to work. We will bring in new imigrants to replace the shortage of taxpayers we have. We will pay everybody lots of money and our state will lead the world in growth. It will be UTOPIA!!11!!

Posted by: depends on what the meaning of.... at January 24, 2014 04:31 PM (hqVUe)

44 In Colorado, Hymenhopper may be burdened by the democrat overreach on guns, not sure how to interpret the effect of the pot legalization though. If Tancredo doesn't split the R vote by running as a third party guy there is a chance here. My auto-correct turned Hickenlooper into Hymenhopper. I think I'll go with that.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 24, 2014 04:31 PM (g4TxM)

45 Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 08:28 PM (BZAd3)

Maybe. I think the only reason that CO went for Obama this last election was that legalizing pot was on the ballot. All the stoners figured that while they were there voting to make their herb legal, they might as well vote for him while they were at it.
But who would run? I don't see any one on the horizon that could pull the votes. Like I said, Tancredo could split the vote yet again.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 04:31 PM (SudzO)

46 sorry rockmom totally not in agreeance. Corbett's a disappointment - no liquor privatization at all (promised!) - gas taxes HUGELY increased - fees and taxes were increased all over the damn place so he hasn't increased our already high state income tax? ok we got hit with everything else

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 24, 2014 04:32 PM (IHUra)

47 44 In Colorado, Hymenhopper may be burdened by the democrat overreach on guns Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 24, 2014 08:31 PM (g4TxM) ___________ Do you think there are enough Democrats/Independents who would vote simply based on guns? I know lots of Dems do own guns. But I suspect they're Democrats first and gun owners second.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 04:33 PM (0LHZx)

48 LFW, are you also in CO? I know Seamus is; in fact, he was mentioned at our last meet up as someone we would all especially like to meet.

Posted by: Mindy at January 24, 2014 04:34 PM (mQwL2)

49 46 sorry rockmom totally not in agreeance. Corbett's a disappointment - no liquor privatization at all (promised!) - gas taxes HUGELY increased - fees and taxes were increased all over the damn place so he hasn't increased our already high state income tax? ok we got hit with everything else Posted by: Black Orchid at January 24, 2014 08:32 PM (IHUra) __________ Sounds like Romney's term in office. He didn't increase taxes, he just increased every fee and then introduced a thousand new fees. Then had the audacity to campaign that he balanced the budget without increasing taxes. Because an extra $500 in govt fees is TOTALLY not the same thing as an extra $500 in new taxes.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 04:35 PM (0LHZx)

50 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 08:31 PM (0LHZx)

And therein lies the problem. That's why several of the northeast counties wanted to secede from the rest of the state because in a state with Colorado's population, they felt that their voices were not being heard in the state house. They get overwhelmed by the FSA in the cities.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 04:36 PM (SudzO)

51 Posted by: Black Orchid at January 24, 2014 08:32 PM (IHUra)

That is one of my biggest bones with him.

He signed off on more money for the Unions while cutting money to education and medical programs (not free stuff but things for actual sick people who couldn't pay for care) for the truly needy.

Had lots of money to throw around for his cronies. The people of PA? Not so much. Typical old style pol.

Plus he's said some really bone headed things about people who've lost their jobs. And he managed to bungle the investigation of Gosnell.

He's a waste of space and he knows he's screwed. He's trying to make amends now but he's about 2 years too late.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 04:36 PM (LSDdO)

52 I am not sure why Corbett is down? People say he's awful but not why specifically? Is it Sandusky? On the plus side I credit him with finally ending Gosnell's clinic of horrors.

Posted by: Votermom at January 24, 2014 04:37 PM (GSIDW)

53 I don't see Virginia on that map. What? We don't get a re-do?

Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 24, 2014 04:37 PM (JXkyA)

54 53 I don't see Virginia on that map. What? We don't get a re-do? Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 24, 2014 08:37 PM (JXkyA) Do you have any bridges?

Posted by: MikeH at January 24, 2014 04:38 PM (bRL1M)

55 Can't believe you're calling CT a tossup. It is (and always will be) Lean D at a bare minimum

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:39 PM (yz6yg)

56 Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 08:21 PM (BZAd3)

Go to Bridgeport or Waterbury. You'll fit in better there.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 04:39 PM (LSDdO)

57 Not until 2017. People in Virginia are stuck with the hack in charge.

Posted by: NWConservative at January 24, 2014 04:39 PM (VfAcC)

58 25 Nice map...but it's not blowing my margins or anything. Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2014 08:22 PM (ge6S7) My margins could use a good blowing.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 04:39 PM (UAMVq)

59 Just saying...I've seen bigger.

Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2014 04:40 PM (ge6S7)

60 Black Orchid, you're in PA?? Then you'll be at the next NoVAMoMee.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:40 PM (yz6yg)

61 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 08:33 PM (0LHZx) It was VERY interesting watching Angela Giron get recalled. Many ads about how her opponent was a meanie anti-woman extremist. (IOW, a socon) Rivera won spending far less money and running an unsophisticated campaign.

Posted by: Mindy at January 24, 2014 04:41 PM (mQwL2)

62 Just saying...I've seen bigger. Size matters.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:41 PM (yz6yg)

63

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 08:23 PM (SudzO)

That may be so, but I think the reason why a lot of Coloradans vote left is because Republicans can't get their messaging shit together.  They say they're for liberty and the constitution, but then they tell people what they should and shouldn't do.  They can't compete with the dem message of  'not only can you do it, but we're going to give it to you for free.' 


People hear all the time about how it's impossible to legislate morality, but both sides try to and the dems succeed.  Republicans should let society fight societies battles and stick to convincing people that government is not the answer to everything.



Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 04:41 PM (BZAd3)

64 61 Forgot to add the detail that Pueblo is deep-blue union territory.

Posted by: Mindy at January 24, 2014 04:43 PM (mQwL2)

65 Then you'll be at the next NoVAMoMee. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 08:40 PM (yz6yg) Speaking of, the lovely and talented Vendette is helping me with some recon. She's given me a few places to check out and is gonna think/hunt around for some more possibles. I still vote karaoke bar.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 04:43 PM (GEICT)

66 As someone who actually lives in Ohio, I can attest that Kasich is far weaker than he appears.  Not because of moderates, mind you, but because he has royally PISSED OFF his base, most by pissing all over it.  Tea Party, Conservative, Libertarian, and even moderate-but-not-too-moderate types absolutely hate the man.  He has taxed fracking, failed to even attempt education reform, lost a fight with the unions do to laziness and trying to cram everything into one bill, and to top it all off expanded Medicare by going whole hog with Obamacare.  Yes, he is one of the few Republicans in the entire country who decided to go along with Obamacare.  He is worse than the people we send to Washington D.C. 

Short Version:  A lot of Republicans who go to vote this year will not vote for Kasich.  As such the polls probably make him seem stronger than he really is.  Ohio should probably be considered a toss up.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 04:43 PM (qJPSp)

67 Seriously - we need to ask Brownback to step down.  He's a major SoCon, and he's almost sure to lose that race for us.

Posted by: J. Random FisCon at January 24, 2014 04:43 PM (U+vgB)

68 Short Version: A lot of Republicans who go to vote this year will not vote for Kasich. As such the polls probably make him seem stronger than he really is. Ohio should probably be considered a toss up. Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 08:43 PM (qJPSp) Too to quantify anecdotal stories.

Posted by: MikeH at January 24, 2014 04:44 PM (bRL1M)

69 Do you have any bridges? ________ I'm surrounded by them. But McDonnell sold them to a foreign company so they could put outrageous tolls on them. Next time I cross one will be when I sell & move on after 4 decades here.

Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 24, 2014 04:44 PM (JXkyA)

70 DeBlasio means Trump over Cuomo.

Posted by: Tonawanda at January 24, 2014 04:44 PM (mE1l+)

71 Speaking of, the lovely and talented Vendette is helping me with some recon. She's given me a few places to check out and is gonna think/hunt around for some more possibles. I still vote karaoke bar. Oh dear God, no. I will NOT be doing karaoke. AndÂ….the Rock-It Grill here on King Street does it EVERY day.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:44 PM (yz6yg)

72 People hear all the time about how it's impossible to legislate morality, but both sides try to and the dems succeed. Republicans should let society fight societies battles and stick to convincing people that government is not the answer to everything. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 08:41 PM (BZAd3) _______________ AMEN!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 04:44 PM (0LHZx)

73 Oh and before anyone starts in on me complaining about Corbetts cuts;

If he'd privatized the liquor stores like he said, then I'd have no problem about his cuts but what he did was cave to the union then take the money he had to find to pay them off from education and some health programs.

See how that works? Unions get more money and sucking on the State tit while those who need some help get screwed.

His malapropisms and totally stupid stuff he said early in office is also another thing.

The Gosnell thing was botched and they tried to cover it up. It came out no thanks to Corbett's cronies in place at the Health Dept.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 24, 2014 04:45 PM (LSDdO)

74 AMEN!!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 08:44 PM (0LHZx)

Dude.  You agreed with me?  I'm going to go kill myself.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 04:46 PM (BZAd3)

75 Oh dear God, no. I will NOT be doing karaoke. AndÂ….the Rock-It Grill here on King Street does it EVERY day. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 08:44 PM (yz6yg) Oh come on. I can totally see it. Can you imagine the Horde in such a setting???? It brings a smile to my face. ANDÂ…..Bannion and Cochran sing "Drift Away". Epic.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 04:47 PM (GEICT)

76 ANDÂ…..Bannion and Cochran sing "Drift Away". At least you didn't say "Jumpin' Jack Flash"

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:48 PM (yz6yg)

77 Hope Rick Scott can win re-election in Fl

Posted by: Florida State alum at January 24, 2014 04:48 PM (Rk8LS)

78 Posted by: Mindy at January 24, 2014 08:41 PM (mQwL2)
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I think CO is going to be interesting this year. The Dem's ran the table last year with gun control, instate tuition for illegals, same sex civil unions, etc. The Speaker of the House was just elected last year and was a Bloomberg apparatchik. I don't think they expected the blowback they got, and Evie Hudak "resigned" rather than face a recall because that would have flipped the Senate to R control. They're still pushing their agenda this year, but not as hard as the did last year. The front range is still pretty blue, but it could be an interesting year.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 04:49 PM (SudzO)

79 Dude. You agreed with me? I'm going to go kill myself. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 08:46 PM (BZAd3) _________ Dude, outside of abortion and teh gheys, I agree with 95% of what is said here.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 04:49 PM (0LHZx)

80 77 Hope Rick Scott can win re-election in Fl Posted by: Florida State alum at January 24, 2014 08:48 PM (Rk8LS) ****** To me that is the most interesting one. Thank you CAC for doing this!

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 24, 2014 04:51 PM (RJMhd)

81 I know there is no way to quantify general observations.  Which is why you can't really adjust any polls.  I'm just saying he is probably not as strong as the polls make him out to be in a general sense.  Taking one or two percentage points off would be stupid because we have nothing to base it on.  But just because a phenomenon cannot be reliably quantified does not mean it is not there.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 04:51 PM (qJPSp)

82 McGinn scores! Avs go up 3-0 over the Miami Dolphins!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 24, 2014 04:51 PM (g4TxM)

83 BC. Bannion. It may be a bit early, but I believe we have a quorum. Mr. Chairman? On topic, my state is still fucked. Forever.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 04:52 PM (eQJwb)

84 Are the Open families from Arizona and Texas related?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 24, 2014 04:53 PM (NU/ou)

85 Well Governor Luthor, turned all blanc mange, at a couple of instances, notably with the Zimmerman matter, but it looks like Christ's challenge will fizzle out,

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at January 24, 2014 04:54 PM (Jsiw/)

86 We...Florida Panthers

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 24, 2014 04:55 PM (g4TxM)

87 To me that is the most interesting one. Thank you CAC for doing this! Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 24, 2014 08:51 PM (RJMhd) I think Scott is fine. I mean, who are the Dems gonna put up? Crist? There's plenty to hit Scott on from the right, but Crist sure as hell can't do it. Scott infuriated his base by caving to OCare, but that took away a sledgehammer that a Dem candidate would try to hit him with. Unemployment isn't great, but it's moved in the right direction. It's better than a lot of places.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 04:55 PM (GEICT)

88 And if the Ohio Democrat Party runs on Kasich's Obamacare support, we might actually see his polls crater in a few months.  His best chance is if Portune and Fitzgerald get into a nasty primary fight, and are unable to really campaign much for the general.  A lot of Kasich's fortunes depend on who the Democrat nominee is, what he campaigns on, and how well he campaigns.  But Kasich has done himself no favors.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 04:56 PM (qJPSp)

89 Well Governor Luthor, turned all blanc mange, at a couple of instances, notably with the Zimmerman matter, but it looks like Christ's challenge will fizzle out, Christ will come out fine. Crist is another matter.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:56 PM (yz6yg)

90 The Open family has too much influence over American Politics.

Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2014 04:56 PM (ge6S7)

91 @Bannion and BC When are you guys planning the next meet up? Wife has a friend in Baltimore, and if I confuse her maybe I can convince her she needs to go visit and I'll tag along .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 04:57 PM (Nw9QJ)

92 Dude, outside of abortion and teh gheys, I agree with 95% of what is said here.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 08:49 PM (0LHZx)


Listen,  I was joking.  So you will know, I am against abortion, but I don't think it should be illegal, per se, except when it is butchery like late term abortion.  If a woman wants an abortion and she can find a doctor to do it, then that should be up to her and her conscience.  But her abortion should not be paid for by tax dollars. 

As far as the gay argument goes, from what I've seen on this blog is that most people here are pretty accepting of gays.  I think what may people have trouble dealing with is the 'in your fucking face' nature of the gay movement.  By in large, most people don't care who's screwing who AND they don't care to know.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 04:57 PM (BZAd3)

93 90 The Open family has too much influence over American Politics. Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2014 08:56 PM (ge6S7) So does the Kardashian family

Posted by: MikeH at January 24, 2014 04:57 PM (bRL1M)

94 My take is that the libertarian and establishment factions of the GOP continue to fraction. A solid wheel spinnin is in order. Lets just get it over with and push for more than 2 party's. I think more can be gained from those who vote for historical or family reasons in a certain way. Why not now? You gonna let it get worse before you agree? Stand for something damnit. Or quit yer bitching. Now, off to convince all I know,who only know how to look down at their smartphones, that I am not crazy.

Posted by: oc joe at January 24, 2014 04:58 PM (hqVUe)

95 It may be a bit early, but I believe we have a quorum. Mr. Chairman? On topic, my state is still fucked. Forever. Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 08:52 PM (eQJwb) The Chair recognizes the Moron from MarylandÂ…and agrees. The state of Maryland is a total loss.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 04:58 PM (GEICT)

96 Gosh darn it, this November we have to re-re-elect Scott Walker again. Every two years we have to re-elect him to a four year term.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 04:58 PM (P6QsQ)

97 Tancredo only ran third-party in 2010 after deciding both of the two GOP primary contenders sucked, and neither could win against Hickenlooper. He called on them to drop out, and they refused.

Now, you could say Tancredo was just being self-serving, and I can understand how it may seem that way, but the fact is both of those Republicans did indeed suck. McInnis lost the primary at the last minute due to a plagiarism scandal, and I forget what scandal plagued Maes in the general, but in the end he could barely manage getting 10% of the vote.

It doesn't seem likely that this will happen again, but given how sorry the state GOP is, we could indeed end up with a horrible candidate again.

If the state GOP were actually colluding with the Democrats to keep this state blue, I can't think of one thing they'd do differently as a party.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 24, 2014 04:59 PM (/96QU)

98 Wife has a friend in Baltimore, and if I confuse her maybe I can convince her she needs to go visit and I'll tag along . Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 08:57 PM (Nw9QJ) Looking at June I believe. It hinges on when Mrs Cochran visits family.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 04:59 PM (yz6yg)

99 When are you guys planning the next meet up? Wife has a friend in Baltimore, and if I confuse her maybe I can convince her she needs to go visit and I'll tag along . Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 08:57 PM (Nw9QJ) Sometime in the second half of June I believe.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 04:59 PM (GEICT)

100 Kasich is toast.

Posted by: tdpwells at January 24, 2014 04:59 PM (01otU)

101 Oh, and tsrblke? You wife is not invited unless she kneels at the base of a statue of Ronald Reagan and prays for his reincarnation.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:01 PM (yz6yg)

102 46 sorry rockmom totally not in agreeance. Corbett's a disappointment - no liquor privatization at all (promised!) - gas taxes HUGELY increased - fees and taxes were increased all over the damn place so he hasn't increased our already high state income tax? ok we got hit with everything else Posted by: Black Orchid at January 24, 2014 08:32 PM (IHUra) The thing is, I wouldn't mind higher state taxes if it meant that the states could tell the Feds where to shove their regulations and mandates. Federal funding gives the Feds enormous power over the states.

Posted by: rickl at January 24, 2014 05:01 PM (sdi6R)

103 Elections still matter? We'll see, I guess.

Posted by: grognard at January 24, 2014 05:01 PM (Be2Wn)

104 The front range is still pretty blue, but it could be an interesting year.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 08:49 PM (SudzO)


If the Republicans can't capitalize on the anger towards the dems this year in CO, they should pack up and leave.  The dems are trying to give this state back to them.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 05:01 PM (BZAd3)

105 Listen, I was joking. So you will know, I am against abortion, but I don't think it should be illegal, per se, except when it is butchery like late term abortion. If a woman wants an abortion and she can find a doctor to do it, then that should be up to her and her conscience. But her abortion should not be paid for by tax dollars. As far as the gay argument goes, from what I've seen on this blog is that most people here are pretty accepting of gays. I think what may people have trouble dealing with is the 'in your fucking face' nature of the gay movement. By in large, most people don't care who's screwing who AND they don't care to know. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 08:57 PM (BZAd3) ______ Agree with you on abortion. Re: gays, I dunno. There are some really nasty comments here made about gays on a regular basis, not much accepting going on.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 05:02 PM (0LHZx)

106 96 Gosh darn it, this November we have to re-re-elect Scott Walker again. Every two years we have to re-elect him to a four year term. Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 08:58 PM (P6QsQ) Hmm, central power tries to dictate to local people who should run their government. If we only had some example from history to follow...

Posted by: MikeH at January 24, 2014 05:02 PM (bRL1M)

107 Ah bother, I think June is when the wife wants to go visit her grandma in Ft. Lauderdale. Also it's our anniversary month. If it corresponds with a wife business trip maybe, but otherwise, unlikely. I should have given you a call when I was out there for my conference in 2012

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 05:04 PM (Nw9QJ)

108 Even if Tancredo could win....he can't do jack shit. The courts have repeatedly said states can't enforce immigration law. Colorado is is in the 9th Court of Appeals, which means everything he'd do would get nixed by the courts. His crusade is doubly useless.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 05:04 PM (0LHZx)

109 I should have given you a call when I was out there for my conference in 2012 I'm about to have a project in St. Louis, actually.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:04 PM (yz6yg)

110
Haley is safe. Kasich is gone.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 24, 2014 05:05 PM (gYIst)

111 Yes, the Greek guy, you know what I meant, it turns out there was less to the McInnis thing than met the eye, some what similar to the 'state that dare not speak it's name'

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at January 24, 2014 05:05 PM (Jsiw/)

112
And MA will stay D.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 24, 2014 05:05 PM (gYIst)

113 Check that, CO isn't in the 9th. Still I'm pretty sure he'd be overturned by some judge somewhere if he started doing anything immigration-y.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 05:06 PM (0LHZx)

114 Oh, and tsrblke? You wife is not invited unless she kneels at the base of a statue of Ronald Reagan and prays for his reincarnation. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 09:01 PM (yz6yg) Had this worked, I would have left her in Baltimore with her friend .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 05:06 PM (Nw9QJ)

115 And MA will stay D. Always an forever. Remember, this is the ONLY state that voted for McGovern in 1972. Some real soooooper geniuses there.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:07 PM (yz6yg)

116 Hey, soothsayer, you live in Ohio.  Just curious, because most people out of state usually don't realize some of Kasich's problems.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:07 PM (qJPSp)

117 I'm about to have a project in St. Louis, actually. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 09:04 PM (yz6yg) That sounds....ominous.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 05:08 PM (Nw9QJ)

118 Remember, this is the ONLY state that voted for McGovern in 1972.

Reagan 1984.

MA going for McG in 1972 was like MN going Mondale in 1984.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 24, 2014 05:10 PM (30eLQ)

119
I live in MA, Cap'n.

I figure Kasich is gone because a) he sucks, and b) the base will not turn out for him.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 24, 2014 05:10 PM (gYIst)

120 Abercrombie the zombie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 24, 2014 05:10 PM (m2Pxu)

121 So all these Republican Governors are going to decriminalize pot and legalize immigrants for votes?

Then they're going to ignore Obama's health care regulations?

Ya, I can see that happening.

Who wants pie? It's punkin. Not sure it's any good yet. Different recipe this time.

Posted by: Cowboy Klaustin at January 24, 2014 05:10 PM (if9Wg)

122 That sounds....ominous. It is if you work for Boeing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:11 PM (yz6yg)

123 >>>The Chair recognizes the Moron from Maryland Said named moron begs an indulgence. Cougar is sitting next to me, so I can't search for boobeh pics. Instead I was watching clips of the All Blacks haka. Which is pretty cool. But even cooler is this one, narrated by a South African. http://youtu.be/zOw_yLklP6Y

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 05:11 PM (eQJwb)

124 Said named moron begs an indulgence. Cougar is sitting next to me, so I can't search for boobeh pics. Man up! If Mrs. Bannion were sitting next to me, I'd be looking for boobeh pics. She'd likely be critiquing themÂ…..

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:13 PM (yz6yg)

125
the GOP dope running for gov in MA lost in '10 because a) he sucked as a candidate, and b) he went out of his way to make sure everyone knew how socially liberal he was.

That's fine but it's a sign of weakness and fear. So fuck 'im.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 24, 2014 05:13 PM (gYIst)

126 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 09:06 PM (0LHZx)
-------------
You're correct and that's why I want Tancredo to stay out of the race. He always manages to pull that small percentage of voters that could make a difference. You are always going to have a percentage of the voters that are one issue types, whether it be immigration, gay marriage, legalizing pot or any number of issues. They will vote for the person that most strongly mirrors their particular prejudices without thinking about what effect their vote will have on the overall outcome. See Perot, Ross.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 05:13 PM (SudzO)

127 If Tancredo gets the nomination for CO, the only way for him to win is to gin up the white vote. I'm talking dark-enlightenment: flyers on the campuses, explaining why diversity hurts. Flyers on construction-sites, explaining what illegal immigration does.

Feminists: put the differential rape statistics out there.

Gun owners: well, they know.

The Atwater strategy.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 24, 2014 05:13 PM (30eLQ)

128 Corbett is absolutely hated here in Philly. Expect the vaunted fraud machine to be working full throttle. You would think that with GOP control of the governorship and both houses in the state, they'd make even a token effort to push a semi-conservative agenda? They botched the LCB privatization and the voter ID law, and haven't even considered the possibility of investigating the aforementioned Philly fraud. I do give them credit for fighting the anti-fracking idiots.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 24, 2014 05:14 PM (1j9qS)

129 That's terrible!  Well, I guess it's hard to complain about Ohio with someone who lives in Taxachusetts.  But yeah, he does suck, and the base is not happy at him.  I hear the Tea Party groups are backing the Libertarian, and not necessarily the crazy fringe ones either.  Hard to argue the Democrat is worse when you got on the Obamacare wagon.  I still can't get over that.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:14 PM (qJPSp)

130 Is anyone even running against Cuomo yet?

Posted by: Iblis at January 24, 2014 05:14 PM (NVFTu)

131
Scoot Brown in NH is a bit unclear to me.
I don't see the base turning out for him. And if a Libertarian is in the race, Brown will be crushed.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 24, 2014 05:15 PM (gYIst)

132 The Atwater strategy. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 24, 2014 09:13 PM (30eLQ) So, fight

Posted by: MikeH at January 24, 2014 05:15 PM (bRL1M)

133 Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack. I went out for a ride and I never went back.

Posted by: Joey Ramone at January 24, 2014 05:16 PM (1j9qS)

134 Stolen from the Blaze:


Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh expressed disgust, though not shock, that the mainstream media ignored an “earth-shattering” story out of Wisconsin that “should have caused a political earthquake.”

The state of Wisconsin’s unemployment rate is “rapidly falling” and the government’s budget ended the year with a $912 million surplus, Limbaugh explained. He says the dramatic turnaround is due in large part to the conservative policies of Gov. Scott Walker.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 24, 2014 05:16 PM (n0DEs)

135
Both Cuomo the homo and Devil Patrick are running for pres in 2016. But the nom is HClinton's to lose.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 24, 2014 05:16 PM (gYIst)

136 #133: Actually, it was Bruce Springsteen that sang Humbry Harg.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 24, 2014 05:17 PM (/96QU)

137 133 Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack. I went out for a ride and I never went back. Posted by: Joey Ramone at January 24, 2014 09:16 PM (1j9qS) I met her in a Kingstown bar We fell in love I knew it had to end

Posted by: Bruce Sprungmean at January 24, 2014 05:17 PM (bRL1M)

138 >>>If Mrs. Bannion were sitting next to me, I'd be looking for boobeh pics. Just watch the damn video. Cougar and I are dying of laughter. Also, I'm pretty sure she would help me critique the boobeh pics, since she does in real life. But still, I'm not just gonna roll the dice on the Friday Night Beejer. It's a tradition amongst my people.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 05:17 PM (eQJwb)

139 Your not welcome in my state.

Posted by: andrew cuomo at January 24, 2014 05:17 PM (WCnJW)

140 Sorry for all your bad governors, guys. Meanwhile here in Wisconsin, we are getting a billion dollars with a B in surplus tax money returned to the taxpayers. Because, as our governor said so eloquently, it belonged to us in the first place.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 05:18 PM (P6QsQ)

141 The front range is still pretty blue, but it could be an interesting year.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 24, 2014 08:49 PM (SudzO)


Problem is, Walker wasn't educated a Harvard or Yale.  Rove will never approve.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 05:18 PM (BZAd3)

142 But still, I'm not just gonna roll the dice on the Friday Night Beejer. It's a tradition amongst my people. Your folkways intrigue me. Do you, perchance, publish a newsletter?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:19 PM (yz6yg)

143 It is if you work for Boeing. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 09:11 PM (yz6yg) My F-I-L and the DM sitting across the table from me does. The former works on a Korean project, the latter won't tell me what he does . But if you have some free time you know how to reach me, Boeing in 20 minutes from here, tops.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 05:19 PM (Nw9QJ)

144
That's a shrewd move by Gov Walker. Brilliant, actually.

The best part is he'll meet resistance from the D's, which will make the fight between Walker and The WI People vs The WI Democrats.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 24, 2014 05:20 PM (gYIst)

145 139 Your not welcome in my state. Posted by: andrew cuomo at January 24, 2014 09:17 PM (WCnJW) Did you keep the receipt when you bought NYS? Cause I'm gonna have to see it before I believe you (based on the lying scumbag you father was)

Posted by: MikeH at January 24, 2014 05:20 PM (bRL1M)

146 Thanks for the sympathy grammie, we try to ignore it and live our lives as best as possible.  Our less free, less wealthy, less happy lives... the ones with the daggers sticking out of their backs.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:20 PM (qJPSp)

147 Guy Mohawk There's a story on Weasel Zippers about Walker too. That surplus money is coming back to the actual citizens. Imagine that.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 05:21 PM (P6QsQ)

148 Illinois could have 100% unemployment and the idiots in this state would still vote Democrats into office.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2014 05:22 PM (JivuR)

149 Nothing tops this one.

http://youtu.be/xI6TRTBZUMM

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 09:18 PM (GEICT)


Awesome.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 05:22 PM (BZAd3)

150 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 09:02 PM (0LHZx)

If you agree with 95% of the stuff that is said here, then why do you work so hard to piss so many people off?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:22 PM (9GG/0)

151 Awesome. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 09:22 PM (BZAd3) Chills, every time I watch it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:23 PM (GEICT)

152 Oh, and when is the NoVaMoMee going to be again?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:23 PM (9GG/0)

153 LMFAO http://t.co/5s8kYSMNmE

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 24, 2014 05:23 PM (DmNpO)

154 Yeah, but Bruce supposedly wrote the song for me.

Posted by: Joey Ramone at January 24, 2014 05:23 PM (1j9qS)

155 Yeah, but Cuomo has to win in 14 to win in 16. Rumor is Rob Astorino (Westchester County Executive) is going to run. He's ok for NY. But anyone running against Cuomo is going to need serious money now that DeBlasio (D ACORN) has reconstituted ACORN and made ACORN BigWig Bertha Lewis a part of government.

Posted by: Iblis at January 24, 2014 05:24 PM (NVFTu)

156 But if you have some free time you know how to reach me, Boeing in 20 minutes from here, tops. Will do.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:24 PM (yz6yg)

157 @145 soothsayer Dems will argue that we need the money for high speed rail or more studies on the effects of alcohol and ice fishermen.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 05:24 PM (P6QsQ)

158 #155: Oh. I didn't now that. Interesting!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 24, 2014 05:24 PM (/96QU)

159 Obama is cutting the # of actively deployed carriers in half. Right now it's 3, sometimes 4. Will be 2 in the near future.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 24, 2014 05:24 PM (ZPrif)

160 Grammie, I saw your sweet comment to me in a prior thread. Thank you so much! I enjoy reading you also. You seem like a kindred soul.

Posted by: Mindy at January 24, 2014 05:24 PM (mQwL2)

161 Oh, and when is the NoVaMoMee going to be again? June

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:24 PM (yz6yg)

162
   Cuomo's potential challengers are Donald Trump and Rob Astorino, Westchester county exec.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 24, 2014 05:25 PM (SAMxH)

163 Chills, every time I watch it. Get a lump in my throat every time I watch it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:25 PM (yz6yg)

164 Yeah, but Bruce supposedly wrote the song for me. Posted by: Joey Ramone at January 24, 2014 09:23 PM (1j9qS) Leave it to Bruce to write a shitty song about an awesome guy.

Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2014 05:25 PM (ge6S7)

165
A few years ago in MA there's a well organized movement for a referendum question to lower the sales tax or income tax, I forget which.

Anyway it was met with stiff opposition from the govt hacks and unions. They ran a huge ad campaign saying the tax cut would be "Reckless" and "Risky."

Get this, they were successful. Those two stupid words resonated with the Dumb People of MA. The voters of MA REJECTED their chance to keep more of their own money.

So, that's who we're dealing with.

Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 24, 2014 05:25 PM (gYIst)

166 Hello, Warbler! Hope all is well with you! Do you think we will be able to rid ourselves of this troublesome Hickenlooper?

Posted by: Mindy at January 24, 2014 05:25 PM (mQwL2)

167 June when?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:25 PM (9GG/0)

168 Hey, Mindy!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 24, 2014 05:25 PM (/96QU)

169 "The Chair recognizes the Moron from MarylandÂ…and agrees. The state of Maryland is a total loss."

Damn, that's harsh.

Is someone going to send a rescue party to save us Morons stuck here?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, retired Snipe at January 24, 2014 05:26 PM (kFCo1)

170 The U.S. Navy is about to cut in half the number of aircraft carriers it keeps ready for combat. Starting in 2015, just two American flattops will be on station at any given time, down from three or four today. The change is spelled out in a presentation by Adm. Bill Gortney, head of Fleet Forces Command. The U.S. Naval InstituteÂ’s published the presentation on its Website on Jan. 24.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 24, 2014 05:26 PM (ZPrif)

171 Get a lump in my throat every time I watch it. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 09:25 PM (yz6yg) Yup. Lot of pain in those eyes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:26 PM (GEICT)

172 Cuomo's potential challengers are Donald Trump and Rob Astorino, Westchester county exec.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 24, 2014 09:25 PM (SAMxH)


With those three on the ballot, I'd totally vote for The Donald

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:26 PM (9GG/0)

173 Here's the carrier reduction article https://medium.com/war-is-boring/fb63ed05551a

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 24, 2014 05:27 PM (ZPrif)

174 High speed rail!!11!!

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 24, 2014 05:27 PM (Dwehj)

175 I'm doing well, thanks; hope you and the husband are, as well.

I don't know if we'll be able to get a new governor; he may be in some trouble, but our state GOP is really good at finding a way to lose.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 24, 2014 05:27 PM (/96QU)

176 Bruce wrote the song and offered it to the Ramones, but they didn't take it, so Bruce did it himself. Or so the story goes.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 24, 2014 05:28 PM (1j9qS)

177 Damn, that's harsh. Is someone going to send a rescue party to save us Morons stuck here? Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, retired Snipe at January 24, 2014 09:26 PM (kFCo1) I spent 3 years there. Now, I got lucky. It was, I'm pretty sure, the only time in the history of that state where they had a Republican Governor. A rescue party might be iffy. The war is raging on all fronts and we have saboteurs and cowards in our ranks.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:29 PM (GEICT)

178 2 carriers deployed. 1 in the middle east. 1 in the Pacific

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 24, 2014 05:29 PM (ZPrif)

179 174 Here's the carrier reduction article https://medium.com/war-is-boring/fb63ed05551a Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 24, 2014 09:27 PM (ZPrif) This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Admiral Josh Painter at January 24, 2014 05:29 PM (bRL1M)

180 Time to toss a match and let it burn?  Cause I'm happy to be ground zero on this.  Speaking as someone who has lost 2.5% of my net worth in the past 2 days and has a (possibly stoopid) buy order in for Monday. 

Posted by: Peaches at January 24, 2014 05:29 PM (8lmkt)

181 But I am hoping for a Walker/Martinez victory, because I would be very excited for a Walker/Martinez ticket in 2016

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:30 PM (9GG/0)

182 June when? Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 09:25 PM (9GG/0) Not sure yet. After the 10th for sure.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:30 PM (yz6yg)

183 Open is a strange way of spelling Abbott for Texas Gov.  Must be one of those declension things from  the original Latin.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 24, 2014 05:30 PM (BAS5M)

184 Damn, that's harsh. Is someone going to send a rescue party to save us Morons stuck here? Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, retired Snipe at January 24, 2014 09:26 PM (kFCo1) Perhaps. How much for your women?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:31 PM (yz6yg)

185 I'd be willing to serve in a rescue party into the bowels of Maryland to rescue trapped morons there.  That is if you don't mind being rescued by an out-of-shape functioning alcoholic who doesn't know the difference between a hand grenade and a hole in the wall.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:31 PM (9GG/0)

186 I have ordered the immediate production of our new Prius-class carriers.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 24, 2014 05:31 PM (Dwehj)

187 This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Admiral Josh Painter at January 24, 2014 09:29 PM (bRL1M)


It would probably be easier just to tell all of our allies, "Sorry, you're on your own."

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 05:32 PM (BZAd3)

188 I don't know who will run against Hickenlooper in Colorado, but there's a decent chance Hickenlooper will go down.

I'm saying that as a resident of eastern Boulder County (Louisville).

The Senator (Mark Udall) is in trouble, too.

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:33 PM (ZALPg)

189 In related news, China has started more aggressively enforcing it's illegal extended air defense zone that covers half of Southeast Asia.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 24, 2014 05:33 PM (ZPrif)

190 functioning alcoholic = Moron = AOSHQ regular

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 09:31 PM (9GG/0)

Trust me; you're nothing special.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2014 05:34 PM (QFxY5)

191 Who names their kid Hickenlooper?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 05:34 PM (P6QsQ)

192 Ugh, I had blissfully forgotten that Corbett was my governor, but that carrier reduction story is just downright depressing and concerning. "If he was trying to destroy the country, what woule he do different?"

Posted by: CaveJohnson at January 24, 2014 05:34 PM (xjqVR)

193 177 Bruce wrote the song and offered it to the Ramones, but they didn't take it, so Bruce did it himself. Or so the story goes. Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 24, 2014 09:28 PM (1j9qS) He wrote so good songs for Southside Johnny!

Posted by: MikeH at January 24, 2014 05:34 PM (bRL1M)

194 A guy named Otter running in Idaho, and not one Animal House reference yet (apart from NDH's handle, that is)? I'm a little disappointed, guys.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 24, 2014 05:34 PM (/96QU)

195 179 2 carriers deployed.
1 in the middle east.
1 in the Pacific

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 24, 2014 09:29 PM (ZPrif)


*sniff*

Posted by: Atlantic Ocean at January 24, 2014 05:34 PM (9GG/0)

196 I wish I had more faith in my fellow Coloradans. Hippie-looper is a disgrace, but he appears amiable, regular joe, a heckuva guy. And I've been disappointed in nearly every election cycle since Bill Owens left office. Colorado is a square-shaped California. Fookers even gerrymandered me out of Corey Gardner's 4th Congressional district. I need to convince my wife into moving back to Wyoming, or Texas. Or Alaska. I'm in a bad mood.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 24, 2014 05:34 PM (qTirZ)

197 192 Who names their kid Hickenlooper? Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 09:34 PM (P6QsQ) The fuck if I know.

Posted by: Learned Hand at January 24, 2014 05:35 PM (oFCZn)

198 Who names their kid Hickenlooper?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 09:34 PM (P6QsQ)



A mother who couldn't get permission to name him Michael Bloomberg Jr.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 05:35 PM (BZAd3)

199 >>>Your folkways intrigue me. Do you, perchance, publish a newsletter? I do. Just google search for "fuck you NSA" and wait for the knock on the door. That's the delivery boy. Sometimes he uses a ten pound sledge to knock.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 05:35 PM (eQJwb)

200 well I might be able to make it out for a mid-June NoVaMoMee, that might be cool

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:35 PM (9GG/0)

201 I'm sure we can all agree that Bruce Springsteen is an overrated piece of liberal shit.

Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2014 05:35 PM (ge6S7)

202 Our new Prius carriers promise to be sea turtle friendly.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 24, 2014 05:36 PM (Dwehj)

203 Hey, I am for Open, that MFer is everywhere. Where do I send a check?

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 24, 2014 05:36 PM (0FSuD)

204 And yeah, the allergies got real bad in here with that haka. Again. Even though I've seen it before. Cougar hadn't, and the tears cannot be chalked up to dust.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 05:36 PM (eQJwb)

205 Enjoyed my self imposed break. What did I miss.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 24, 2014 05:37 PM (6/+vz)

206 Well if you're thinking about moving, please, move to Missouri.  It's going to be a swing state again in the not-too-distant future.  The writing is on the wall.  And so we could use the conservative bulwark against the leftie howlings well in advance.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:37 PM (9GG/0)

207 I'm sure we can all agree that Bruce Springsteen is an overrated piece of liberal shit.

Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2014 09:35 PM (ge6S7)



Shitstain sucks beyond all sucking

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2014 05:37 PM (JivuR)

208 I do. Just google search for "fuck you NSA" and wait for the knock on the door. That's the delivery boy. Sometimes he uses a ten pound sledge to knock. Oh! Looks like it's time to add another dozen Claymores to the living room. BRB.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:37 PM (yz6yg)

209 197 I wish I had more faith in my fellow Coloradans. Hippie-looper is a disgrace, but he appears amiable, regular joe, a heckuva guy. And I've been disappointed in nearly every election cycle since Bill Owens left office.
....
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 24, 2014 09:34 PM (qTirZ)

He had a pretty bad session with Mike Rosen on KOA radio this week.
"Unaware" of pretty much anything brought forward by the constituents.

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:37 PM (ZALPg)

210 I'm in a bad mood.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 24, 2014 09:34 PM (qTirZ)


Here, come sit by me, maybe we can pop a few caps before the evening is over. 

Posted by: Peaches at January 24, 2014 05:37 PM (8lmkt)

211 Open? Hell, yeah, shove that sucker in.

Posted by: Barney's wife at January 24, 2014 05:37 PM (0FSuD)

212 Damn.,
Between Sean and chemjeff we're good as rescued.

As long as the women go for a good price, and someone doesn't hand chemjeff a hand grenade, and tell him it's a hole in the wall.


Then again, I just ordered five boxes of 9mm, so we might be able to shoot our way out.


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 24, 2014 05:38 PM (kFCo1)

213 hi Peaches

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:38 PM (9GG/0)

214 Speaking of Bloomberg, he had a huge impact on all the fucking anti-gun legislation these past couple of years. Fort Collins billionaire Pat Stryker is one of Bloomberg's BFFs.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 24, 2014 05:38 PM (qTirZ)

215 Between Sean and chemjeff we're good as rescued.

okay but ya better wait until I"m sobered up, or something

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:38 PM (9GG/0)

216 192 Who names their kid Hickenlooper? Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 09:34 PM (P6QsQ) He must be injuin.

Posted by: Two Dogs Fucking Smith at January 24, 2014 05:39 PM (0FSuD)

217 "He had a pretty bad session with Mike Rosen on KOA radio this week. "Unaware" of pretty much anything brought forward by the constituents." Dang, missed that one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 24, 2014 05:39 PM (qTirZ)

218 Hey, chemjeff!!! 

Posted by: Peaches at January 24, 2014 05:39 PM (8lmkt)

219 Oh! Looks like it's time to add another dozen Claymores to the living room. BRB. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 09:37 PM (yz6yg) Heh. That reminds meÂ…I got an order of 12ga ammo that came in late last week. I told the wife that I had a package coming, but forgot to tell her what it was. I got a text in the middle of the day "What the fuck did you order? Small box but it's way heavier than I was expecting. Damn near dropped it on my foot."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:39 PM (GEICT)

220 man I'm down to only 1 more beer left
I knew I shoulda gotten 2 six-packs

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:39 PM (9GG/0)

221 ugh can't stand teh boss......what a tool

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 34 days until spring training at January 24, 2014 05:39 PM (u8GsB)

222 He had a pretty bad session with Mike Rosen on KOA radio this week.
"Unaware" of pretty much anything brought forward by the constituents.

Posted by: jwb7605 at January 24, 2014 09:37 PM (ZALPg)



His head is buried so far up Obama's ass that he'd be lucky to be aware of daylight.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 24, 2014 05:39 PM (BZAd3)

223 okay but ya better wait until I"m sobered up, or something Here, hold these hand grenades for a sec.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:39 PM (yz6yg)

224 Hey chemjeff, you're not going to believe this, but I actually was thinking about moving to Missouri.  Long story short it involves the Asian Carp.  On that note, what do you think about canned carp?

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:40 PM (qJPSp)

225 Tx is open as in there is no incumbent running.

Posted by: Mr Moo Moo at January 24, 2014 05:40 PM (0LHZx)

226 Shall I warble something completely unintelligible about the plight of the working stiff?

Posted by: Bruce Stringbeans at January 24, 2014 05:40 PM (Dwehj)

227 Thanks, Peaches.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 24, 2014 05:40 PM (qTirZ)

228 PG!!!!  {{{{{}}}}} 

Posted by: Peaches at January 24, 2014 05:40 PM (8lmkt)

229 Also, as an Ohioan, I have all sorts of tips and tricks for surviving in a swing state apocalypse. 

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:41 PM (qJPSp)

230 Did Bannion just hand chemjeff hand grenades? *turns and runs*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:41 PM (GEICT)

231 Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 09:40 PM (qJPSp)

canned carp?  don't know anything about it, sorry
to be honest I"m not a big seafood guy

what part of Missouri were you thinking of moving to?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:41 PM (9GG/0)

232 Oh, wait a sec, I have a question.  Anybody seen Jane D'oh or is she still MIA?  It's starting to give me some anxiety . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 24, 2014 05:41 PM (8lmkt)

233 192 Who names their kid Hickenlooper?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 24, 2014 09:34 PM (P6QsQ)

He must be injuin.

Posted by: Two Dogs Fucking Smith at January 24, 2014 09:39 PM (0FSuD)



Squaw Lizzie Warren: Funny he don't look Injun to me

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2014 05:42 PM (JivuR)

234 231 Did Bannion just hand chemjeff hand grenades?

whoa, now these are pretty cool


oof

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:42 PM (9GG/0)

235 233 Oh, wait a sec, I have a question. Anybody seen Jane D'oh or is she still MIA? It's starting to give me some anxiety . . . Posted by: Peaches at January 24, 2014 09:41 PM (8lmkt) Haven't seen her. I've emailed her several times with no response. Yeah, kinda concerned.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:42 PM (GEICT)

236 Leave Bruce alone, wingnuts! He's awesome! Just like Barry!

Oh, and please donate to my 2016 presidential campaign.

Posted by: Chris Christie at January 24, 2014 05:42 PM (/96QU)

237 Kasich is at risk. I don't think the leftists will have forgotten about his attempt to curb public unions (SB-5). And we, the base, haven't forgotten about the medicare expansion. I'm worried.

Posted by: knob (R-OH) at January 24, 2014 05:42 PM (H1bc7)

238 "Did Bannion just hand chemjeff hand grenades?"

No..I think it was a hole in the wall.
It's all good.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 24, 2014 05:42 PM (kFCo1)

239 Come to think of it, I haven't seen Jane D'oh in a rather long time...

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 24, 2014 05:43 PM (qTirZ)

240 Agreed about Bruce. Another rich lib who pretends to be a man of the people. Now he's teamed up with Tom Morello, an out and out Stalinist, Mumia-lover and all-around piece of shit.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 24, 2014 05:43 PM (1j9qS)

241 yeah I miss Jane D'oh
hope she is okay

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:43 PM (9GG/0)

242 Well if you're thinking about moving, please, move to Missouri. Are any of you familiar with Indiana gun laws ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 24, 2014 05:43 PM (6/+vz)

243 I was thinking somewhere south of St. Louis.  Near the river, that way I can acquire my "input" and ship my product with a well developed nearby logistical network.  However, I'm pretty open to wherever meets the basic needs of the business.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:43 PM (qJPSp)

244 OK, I"m out. Mrs. Bannion would like some attention. No, that's not a euphemism. BCÂ…let's get a date set for NoVAMoMee Talk to the SO.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 24, 2014 05:44 PM (yz6yg)

245 Belting out a tune with marbles in your mouth ain't easy, folks. Trust me.

Posted by: Bruce Stringbeans at January 24, 2014 05:44 PM (Dwehj)

246 Haven't seen her. I've emailed her several times with no response. Yeah, kinda concerned.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 09:42 PM (GEICT)


I am getting majorly concerned, Cochran.  It's been since before Christmas, right?  I don't have her email, but perhaps if you put "Peaches says to get your ass back to the HQ" in the next subject line, maybe it would spur some action.  I am super worried about that girl and, as do we all, I adore her.  Prayers going up . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 24, 2014 05:44 PM (8lmkt)

247 Crap
I forgot my manners.
9mm.
$13.77

Not great, but better than what I can get it locally for.


http://tinyurl.com/o23bof5

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 24, 2014 05:45 PM (kFCo1)

248 Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 09:43 PM (qJPSp)

well ya know, we got more than one river...

if the Missouri river would suit your business then I can tell ya that the western part of the state is really hurting for business and would welcome you with open arms

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:45 PM (9GG/0)

249 >>>Heh. That reminds meÂ…I got an order of 12ga ammo that came in late last week. I told the wife that I had a package coming, but forgot to tell her what it was. Double heh. My UPS guy hates me. A few months back, I got a couple thousand rounds of Mosin food. In the wooden crates. Then, for our anniversary, Cougar got me 310 pounds of bumper plates for the home gym. He got a C-note and a plate of cookies.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 05:45 PM (eQJwb)

250 BCÂ…let's get a date set for NoVAMoMee Talk to the SO. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 09:44 PM (yz6yg) Yeah, I keep asking. We're waiting on a date from a third party. And it's an organization, so I can't bitch at them to hurry up and give me a date.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:45 PM (GEICT)

251 Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 24, 2014 09:24 PM (yz6yg) Really? Veto proof majority in the state house and a double digit Romney victory her?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 05:46 PM (Nw9QJ)

252 And I'm worried about Jane as well.

Would be nice to hear something simple, even if it's just  "I'm ok"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 24, 2014 05:46 PM (kFCo1)

253 If it's on a Friday or a Saturday then I think I'll be able to fly out there and make it.  I will want a break I think.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:47 PM (9GG/0)

254 Haven't seen her. I've emailed her several times with no response. Yeah, kinda concerned. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 09:42 PM (GEICT) Someone said they talked to D'oh boy and she was just busy I thought. Maybe I'm misrembering?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 05:47 PM (Nw9QJ)

255 The other day one of the 'etts said they facebooked D'oh Boy and got word back that Jane is ok but offline for some reason. Forget which thread that was. I think it was one of the mama's ?

Posted by: CaveJohnson at January 24, 2014 05:47 PM (xjqVR)

256 Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind.  I actually was considering going with the Missouri as it would give me access to more of the state.  As this point the carp have basically taken over, so they aren't hard to find.  Know any fishermen?

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:47 PM (qJPSp)

257 Double heh. My UPS guy hates me. A few months back, I got a couple thousand rounds of Mosin food. In the wooden crates. Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 09:45 PM (eQJwb) *whistles* Got me beat. I went with 250rds of 00Buck. My FiL gave some from his personal stash for Christmas. So I've got 300-350rds each of 12ga and S&W .40. No more buying for me though. I'm pretty sure I found my next gun today. And of course it's not chambered in .40, so that's more ammo that I'll need to stock up on.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:48 PM (GEICT)

258 The other day one of the 'etts said they facebooked D'oh Boy and got word back that Jane is ok but offline for some reason.

Well, praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!  Thanks so much for that ray of hope, Cave!  Love that girl.

Posted by: Peaches at January 24, 2014 05:48 PM (8lmkt)

259

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 09:47 PM (qJPSp)


no, sorry, don't know any fishermen.  but yeah we have a ton of water and fish and lakes and shit.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:49 PM (9GG/0)

260 My Ghost of Tom Joad was voted song of the century by the CPUSA.

Posted by: Bruce Stringbeans at January 24, 2014 05:49 PM (Dwehj)

261 Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 09:47 PM (qJPSp) I do off and on fishing here. Just river fishing most recently, sunfish mostly, I've done trout in the past at Montauk.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 24, 2014 05:49 PM (Nw9QJ)

262 That's right, I forgot that an Ette got ahold of D'Oh Boy. Still, would be nice to hear from her.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:50 PM (GEICT)

263 So the wife (notice how I didn't say MY wife) asked tonight if I am worried about my liver failing. Knowing where this was going, I said, "No, I really am not." She said, "Don't you think you might be becoming an alcoholic?" I said, "Becoming?" "I don't ever drink before 5 PM, and I've been drinking like this since 1972." I don't know what the hell she thinks has changed, but I sure as hell can't afford a divorce. Sheesh.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 24, 2014 05:51 PM (4Mv1T)

264 up here in NW Missouri, it is very conservative, there is only 1 D state house representative in the entire region and even he is not a screeching moonbat but an old-time moderate D, everyone else is an R and a solid conservative R too, it's good people up in this area of the state

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:51 PM (9GG/0)

265 That is great news about Ms. D'oh... I've been worried too - even as an outsider.

Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 24, 2014 05:51 PM (JXkyA)

266 and yeah there's a few KC/NW MO area morons

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:52 PM (9GG/0)

267 Yeah, I think carp is a resource just waiting to be properly exploited.  Far as I can tell, the only competition (sort of) is some plant they are building in Grafton, Illinois, just to the north of St. Louis.  Maybe going to the Western part of the state is the best option after all.  Lots of room to grow. And you said they were hurting there? 

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:52 PM (qJPSp)

268 258 Double heh. No more buying for me though. I'm pretty sure I found my next gun today. And of course it's not chambered in .40, so that's more ammo that I'll need to stock up on. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 09:48 PM (GEICT) So what's your next gun?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 05:53 PM (UAMVq)

269 we will accept anyone here.  yeah, NW MO is hurting for business.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:53 PM (9GG/0)

270 So I've got 300-350rds each of 12ga and S&W .40. This is just for your vacation house, right? What do you have at your home?

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 24, 2014 05:53 PM (0FSuD)

271 talk to the St. Joseph chamber of commerce if you wish, they will probably make you a deal or get you networked in.  probably the same for the other river towns.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:54 PM (9GG/0)

272 Sheesh.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 24, 2014 09:51 PM (4Mv1T)


Dang, TR, that doesn't sound good.  Doesn't that woman know a good man when she sees one???

Posted by: Peaches at January 24, 2014 05:54 PM (8lmkt)

273 I said, "Becoming?" "I don't ever drink before 5 PM, and I've been drinking like this since 1972." I don't know what the hell she thinks has changed, but I sure as hell can't afford a divorce. Sheesh. Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 24, 2014 09:51 PM (4Mv1T) Never marry a woman who's dad didn't drink. Every time you start that second bottle of rum they start calling you a drunk.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 24, 2014 05:55 PM (0FSuD)

274 So what's your next gun? Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 09:53 PM (UAMVq) http://www.ruger.com/products/lc380/index.html Snuck outa work today for an hour and hit the range. I knew they had one I could rent. Had a bit of an issue with it though, so I need to talk to a Moron who's familiar with this particular firearm.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:55 PM (GEICT)

275 >>>No more buying for me though. I'm pretty sure I found my next gun today. And of course it's not chambered in .40, so that's more ammo that I'll need to stock up on. Story of my life. No new calibers here. I'm running out of room, and money. But mostly money. For CCW in .40 look into the Springfield xds. Cougar has the xdm in 9, and it is a really slick shooter.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 05:55 PM (eQJwb)

276 You NC Morons. Classic firearms just got in a shipment of Mosin 91-30's and M44s. We need to do a group buy. Oh, and ammo, too.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 24, 2014 05:55 PM (4Mv1T)

277 ppl seem to care less about the missouri river than the mississippi river.  which IMO is fine with me.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:56 PM (9GG/0)

278 So is where I'm currently at: Toledo, Ohio.  The difference is NW MO probably doesn't feel entitled to businessmen magically appearing and saving the day for union and government incompetence.  Still, I imagine there are a lot of skilled people in the labor market.  I'm mostly looking for someone with experience as a factory foreman or floor manager.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:56 PM (qJPSp)

279 275 So what's your next gun? Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 09:53 PM (UAMVq) http://www.ruger.com/products/lc380/index.html Snuck outa work today for an hour and hit the range. I knew they had one I could rent. Had a bit of an issue with it though, so I need to talk to a Moron who's familiar with this particular firearm. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 09:55 PM (GEICT) Spiffy. .380's in short supply, though, at least in my experience. What kind of issues were you having?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 05:57 PM (UAMVq)

280 For CCW in .40 look into the Springfield xds. Cougar has the xdm in 9, and it is a really slick shooter. Posted by: DC in Towson ---------------------- .45 acp or 9mm only. I had the .45 and sold it due to feed issues.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 24, 2014 05:57 PM (4Mv1T)

281 @275 Nice. Bet that's not cheap, BUT I do have two pistol permits and some left over cash from that drug deal, oh never mind.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 24, 2014 05:57 PM (0FSuD)

282 Also, the local government probably isn't going to sabotage my efforts because stupid.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 05:57 PM (qJPSp)

283 BC- I just ordered an LC380

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 24, 2014 05:57 PM (4Mv1T)

284 277 You NC Morons. Classic firearms just got in a shipment of Mosin 91-30's and M44s. We need to do a group buy. Oh, and ammo, too. Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 24, 2014 09:55 PM (4Mv1T) Not a NC moron, but I do have a M44. Cool carbine, kicks like a mule. 7.62x54R is not for pansies.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 05:58 PM (UAMVq)

285 .40 S&W? Glock 23. Can't go wrong.

Posted by: Bruce Stringbeans at January 24, 2014 05:58 PM (Dwehj)

286 well it is sadly true that MO is not yet right-to-work.  the R legislature has put that forth as one of its priorities. but we have a POS D governor, Nixon, who pretty much lives up to his presidential namesake when it comes to sliminess.  if the R legislature can override his certain veto of right-to-work legislation then it is all good.  that might actually happen this session.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 05:58 PM (9GG/0)

287 >>>You NC Morons. Classic firearms just got in a shipment of Mosin 91-30's and M44s. We need to do a group buy. Oh, and ammo, too. Count me in for a few. And a couple spam cans.

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 05:59 PM (eQJwb)

288 Spiffy. .380's in short supply, though, at least in my experience. What kind of issues were you having? Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 09:57 PM (UAMVq) I put 50rds through it and it stove piped 6 or 7 times. Also, the slide failed to lock open one time. The gun looked like it had been heavily used, so I'm thinking it might just be that particular gun, but I figured I'd see if anyone else knew of any issues with it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 24, 2014 05:59 PM (GEICT)

289 but I do have a M44. Cool carbine, kicks like a mule. 7.62x54R is not for pansies. Posted by: Insomniac ----------------------------- So true. And an Iowa Class muzzle flash.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 24, 2014 05:59 PM (4Mv1T)

290 LC380. $600? Man, dat a lot for a pocket gun,

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 24, 2014 05:59 PM (0FSuD)

291 ONT up

Posted by: CaveJohnson at January 24, 2014 06:00 PM (xjqVR)

292 St. Joseph you say?  Thanks for the info.  I know I can't stay where I am, yet it is hard to organize information from a long distance.  I should probably move in the next few months, then I can shop for a good location.  What is the real estate market like out there?

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 06:00 PM (qJPSp)

293 LC380. $600? Man, dat a lot for a pocket gun, Posted by: Nip Sip -------------------------- I just bought a new one for $305 on GB

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 24, 2014 06:00 PM (4Mv1T)

294 And as for unions, don't worry, no one is MO is nearly as bad as the people in Toledo.  If Nixon and Company are modeled after Chicago, the clowns I have to deal with are modeled after Detroit.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 06:01 PM (qJPSp)

295 See y'all on the ONT

Posted by: DC in Towson at January 24, 2014 06:01 PM (eQJwb)

296 I put 50rds through it and it stove piped 6 or 7 times. Also, the slide failed to lock open one time. The gun looked like it had been heavily used, so I'm thinking it might just be that particular gun, but I figured I'd see if anyone else knew of any issues with it. Hmm. Could be a bad extractor. Don't have direct experience with the LC380 though. Hopefully somebody can put you some knowledge.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 24, 2014 06:02 PM (UAMVq)

297
    I grab .22LR pretty much wherever I find it.  Got 3 .22s and I shoot hell out of them.  Very handy to keep in practice without breaking my budget.

   The 7.62 and 30.06 is a problem due to storage issues--I physically can't put any more in stock.

    Not to mention the 1911 food.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 24, 2014 06:02 PM (SAMxH)

298 Captain_Cookie, the real estate market here is quite affordable.  $100k-$150k for a reasonable house, $200k if you want something ritzy

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 06:03 PM (9GG/0)

299 Captain_Cookie, send me an email at chem dot jeff at yahoo dot com if you wish and I can see if I can answer some requests of yours

Posted by: chemjeff at January 24, 2014 06:04 PM (9GG/0)

300

"and yeah there's a few KC/NW MO area morons"

 

chemjeff, where in NWMO are you?  I used to live in Gallatin for a few years.

 

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 24, 2014 06:07 PM (U+vgB)

301 I was actually referring to a small industrial building.  Not too large to start out with.  I probably won't have more than ten or so employees. 

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 06:07 PM (qJPSp)

302 Oh, thanks for the email, if will probably be easier that way.  Though it might have to wait until later, I have to go to bed soon.

Posted by: Captain_Cookie at January 24, 2014 06:08 PM (qJPSp)

303

but I do have a M44. Cool carbine, kicks like a mule. 7.62x54R is not for pansies.
Posted by: Insomniac

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Is it weird to get an endorphine rush when you shoot 91/30's ?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at January 24, 2014 06:10 PM (Zd2AY)

304 Depending upon the Republican primary, Arizona could be more purplish than red.  There are a lot of candidates on the GOP side whereas the Dems have already lined-up behind their guy.  If the GOP primary gets bloody (think Tea Party vs. Chamber of Commerce) and one of the weaker candidates prevails, it could be a tough fight in the general.


Remember, AZ elected and then re-elected Janet Nepalitano a decade ago...


Plus, current Jan Brewer has been a big disappointment so even if an R gets elected it is no guarantee that the right policies will be pushed.

Posted by: exurbanDoug at January 24, 2014 06:57 PM (xAh4p)

305 Kitzhaber is a sure thing in Oregon.

Posted by: Woody at January 24, 2014 07:16 PM (07RHD)

306 Washington State is a safe one for Democrats. A Republican will never get elected here and if by some chance there is a close election a couple boxes of ballots will be found in the trunk of a car.

Posted by: wodun at January 24, 2014 07:57 PM (fbqZE)

307 Even though Dems stole the 2010 election for Dayton (with Independence party taking almost 12% of the vote) , he probably won't lose Minnesota in 2014...It has more to do with such uninteresting candidates running as R's...

Posted by: Tony253 at January 25, 2014 06:20 AM (3yMFT)

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