January 27, 2014
— Ace "This is scary!!!"
Okay I added the exclamation points but they do that when they take a reviewer's quote for a movie poster.
A site called "PolicyMic" went to an unbiased source to get his take on the weapon. A guy named Richard Rowe who wrote a very objective, neutral book called Against the Tea Party. (No, seriously.)
Rowe gives the RIP the rave-fear reviews that the ammo maker was counting on:
A New Bullet Has Been Invented. This is What it Looks Like.
As I mentioned: Focusing on how "scary looking" the bullet looks. This piece just came up 28 minutes ago.
Didn't take that long, huh?
He claims the new bullet is similar enough to another type of round (which this article calls a "tool of war," rather than a round) banned by the Hague Conventions called a flechette round.
Think a shotgun, but nastier. Traditional bullets do most of their damage by transferring kinetic energy in an expanding "bubble" around the projectile. Flechette rounds are different. They're full of nasty, tiny spikes which pierce the insides of the target (creating holes through skin, muscle, lungs, heart, vital organs, etc.) and pass through the other side.Rowe notes: "The flechette-like needles that the R.I.P. round produces wonÂ’t even offer its victims that cold mercy, though. Because theyÂ’re copper."
He then quotes a surgeon talking about flechette rounds (and assuming you will take this quote about flechette "tools of war" to apply to the new RIP "tool of war"):
"Don't kid yourself. It is not a job for a surgeon but for graves registration."
I could see that going right on the movie-poster ad for the bullet.
...
Or as Rowe, who in the past attempted to modify his own ammunition to achieve a similar effect, calls it: "96 grains of pure, unadulterated hate. A desire to inflict suffering. Period."
Other tools of war are made for the love.
By the way, here's an actual picture of the rounds.

Count Floyd says "Very scary, very scary!"
Sorry to do two posts in a row on the same thing. But it's funny to watch how fast the left gins up its next Moral Panic.
Thanks to @comradearthur.
Parody: A parody twitter account called "Moms Demand Attention" has posted this infotaining graphic.

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Posted by: Muad'dib at January 27, 2014 12:35 PM (KjlbF)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 27, 2014 12:35 PM (T2V/1)
So we have the SS109 5.56mm 62gr round for the M-16/M-4 series that under the right circumstances will turn flesh into jelly as it delivers its kinetic or hydrostatic shock through the human body.
Some humane round.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 12:36 PM (OrnSX)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 12:36 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at January 27, 2014 12:36 PM (/EkKm)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 27, 2014 12:36 PM (zZLRY)
Posted by: Abner "Call Me Abbie" Normal[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 27, 2014 12:36 PM (qlBdX)
Posted by: Paladin at January 27, 2014 12:36 PM (+Wvn3)
Hey, those look like something you'd have in your WH40K bits box for painting up like, I dunno, missle launchers for your Space Mari---
waitaminit
Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 12:36 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 12:36 PM (xSdrY)
That thing looks like it was designed specifically to hang up on everything in a semi-auto pistol.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2014 12:37 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 12:37 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 27, 2014 12:37 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at January 27, 2014 12:37 PM (/EkKm)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 12:37 PM (38LLM)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 27, 2014 12:37 PM (o9Rp5)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 12:38 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 12:38 PM (xSdrY)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 12:38 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at January 27, 2014 12:38 PM (/EkKm)
Was just thinking about this. A beehive round for a 12ga. I can dream.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2014 12:38 PM (vlwRu)
Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 27, 2014 12:38 PM (Bps3R)
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 12:38 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 27, 2014 12:39 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at January 27, 2014 12:39 PM (/EkKm)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 12:39 PM (OrnSX)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:39 PM (QxSug)
@28
Why when we already have white phosphorus infused Dragon's Breath?
Man I want to try some of that out
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 12:39 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2014 04:38 PM (vlwRu)
With real bees?
Fuck yeah.
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (GQ8sn)
Stop it! I'm gonna peeeeeee!
Posted by: Jaws at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (Rbtz3)
.....necessity is the Mother of Invention
Posted by: Harald the BallCrusher at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: JPS at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (UxUmE)
The arms are deployed outward in flight by tiny motors that make a cool whirrr-click sound.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 04:35 PM (38LLM)
I can smell it from here. What in the hell did you have for lunch?
Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (GgPam)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:40 PM (QxSug)
How about fill it with Mercury and seal it with wax?
Posted by: Paladin at January 27, 2014 12:41 PM (+Wvn3)
Posted by: Adriane... at January 27, 2014 12:41 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: flounder at January 27, 2014 12:41 PM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: palerider at January 27, 2014 12:41 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:41 PM (QxSug)
Step 1: Elmo
Step 2: Sex with Young Boys
Step 3: Progress!!!!
Posted by: Adriane... at January 27, 2014 04:41 PM (qoKTg)
FIFY
Posted by: Harry Reid at January 27, 2014 12:41 PM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 12:42 PM (8ZskC)
How cold does it have to be to be able to do that?
And how does that turdshiv stay solid if he hold it in your hand for more than a few minutes?
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 12:42 PM (GQ8sn)
It is to laugh.
I have a heavy old motorcycle jacket that I would volunteer for short range tests.
I doubt those clownish things would manage to even tear the inner lining.
That massive central cavity will plug hopelessly on impact and the OMG DEADLY FLECHETTES will just spread and expend their kinetic energy ineffectually over too large an area.
Fuckin' physics. How does it work?
Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 12:42 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 12:42 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 12:42 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: King Joffrey at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (tv7DV)
What can you say? It's *scary looking*, and that's the level of their analysis.
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: oeJay44incday
The Blaze link had a pic of one but it wasn't all that informative.
Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (cxs6V)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (zZLRY)
Posted by: The State of California at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Californian Scrunt at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (Aif/5)
They look like copper-jacketed chinese mini corn thingers, but not all floppy and slimy.
They should come with fortune cookies that say stuff like "HALP Im trapped in chinese cookie factory!" and "You roundeye stop borrow chinese money!"
Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Sugar Free Gummi Bear at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (WGm5T)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:43 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 04:42 PM (8ZskC)
Why yes she has. She said, "Gerp, dap, uhh, <farted a bit>, dert, daa"
Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 27, 2014 12:44 PM (GgPam)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 12:44 PM (TE35l)
Also, "semiautomatic."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 12:44 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2014 12:44 PM (/FnUH)
The "devil's kiss" round.
It will be fun to watch them go haring after this one, they can't resist it so - like kittens trying to catch the 'red dot' and can't figure out why it is impossible.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (hLRSq)
Permission?
Whose blog is this?
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (GQ8sn)
... kinda like a copper spider that wants to jump out at you and hug you.
Posted by: Hate Miser at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (XCGHz)
Posted by: Seems legit at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (A98Xu)
@57
Exactly, pair that with the fact its only 96 grain weight and looks like it would have shitty aerodynamics, and my guess is its a turd that will cost $40 a box.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (38LLM)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (OrnSX)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: jwest at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (u2a4R)
Someone claimed a box of 20 for $300 on GB.
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2014 04:44 PM (/FnUH)
Go forth with my blessing, and God be with you my son.
Posted by: The Pope of AoSHQ at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2014 12:45 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 12:46 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: MFM at January 27, 2014 12:46 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2014 12:46 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: firsttimemoron at January 27, 2014 12:46 PM (aQcYo)
Posted by: Jaws at January 27, 2014 12:46 PM (Rbtz3)
Shotguns seem to be the recent mode of weapon in mass shootings. Unfortunately it seems Black guys are trying to get equal footing with crazy White boys as the conventional wisdom profile of a mass shooter.
The Columbia mall guy motive is still a mystery.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 12:46 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 12:46 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 27, 2014 12:46 PM (zZLRY)
Posted by: the Butcher at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (8g9qq)
brb: must be some dependable way to stop the urine flow
Posted by: Liberal Lurker at January 27, 2014 04:44 PM (oGrEy)
A word of advice. Cut down on the asparagus consumption.
Posted by: Ammo Dump at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (GgPam)
The sweet, supple little boy children.
Posted by: Harry Reid at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (tv7DV)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (XWw96)
Hell, the entire AWB was based on "scary" as a fucking method of measurement for legislation.
These are not psychologically sound people. Which is why I don't understand why so many on our side insist on arguing with these hoplophobic idiots. Despite all their professed dismissal of the supernatural and embrace of atheism, they're nothing but animists.
You can talk all day about ballistics but that's going to do nothing but waste your time watching it bounce off the head of someone who's jumping up and down yelling "Bayonet Lug!" and "Pistol Grip" at the top of their lungs.
Posted by: B at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (Pson9)
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (RUvjp)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (Iyg03)
Given how that bullet is sliced up, I'd be surprised if it didn't fall apart immediately on firing the damned thing.
Also, 96 grains? That's a REALLY light bullet for 9mm.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (cViiz)
Damn. I was hoping to save some money on scalpels.
Posted by: ObamaCare Doc at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (eHIJJ)
Drone Kill by Obama: rounds of sweet, sweet love, right up your ass.
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 27, 2014 12:47 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 12:48 PM (lwkv9)
If i have permission I can post that, to vent my annoyance, and as a general movie annoyance thread.
-
One thing I hate is when the hero is going to meet his new partner Rocko and then they meet and it's a chick named Rockolette.
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 27, 2014 12:48 PM (XUKZU)
Drone Kill by Obama: rounds of sweet, sweet love, right up your ass.
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 27, 2014 04:47 PM (GrtrJ)
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 12:48 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 12:48 PM (bb5+k)
@81
Thanks. I remember watching that when I was about 4 and thought it was cool to. I might have to see if I can find that one on Amazon.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 12:49 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 12:49 PM (+v2ss)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 12:49 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 27, 2014 12:49 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2014 04:44 PM (/FnUH)
permission granted, but you're on notice about any other unauthorized subject. Capiche?
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 12:49 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 12:49 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (IXrOn)
I want that gun from "Fifth Element" (Mul-tee-pass!!!) that Gary Oldman had that he was trying to sell to the lizard aliens. First round is a tracker round, and then all subsequent rounds home in on the tracker round.
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (QxSug)
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But wait! If you act now we will also send you the Ronco Hellzapoppin' flamethrower absolutely free, a $500 value. You just pay shipping and handling.
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: The Progressive Ammunition Review at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (XWw96)
Posted by: Frank Costanza at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (LiZW+)
Posted by: jwest at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (u2a4R)
>>>Also, 96 grains? That's a REALLY light bullet for 9mm.
It kinda wants to be a Blunderbuss, don't it?
Posted by: Bigby's Flappy Hands at January 27, 2014 12:50 PM (3ZtZW)
What does this flashing red button do?
Posted by: Jaws at January 27, 2014 12:51 PM (Rbtz3)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 12:51 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 12:51 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 27, 2014 12:52 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:52 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 27, 2014 12:52 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 12:52 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Heralder at January 27, 2014 12:52 PM (/Mxso)
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 12:53 PM (m2CN7)
left hand: covenant plasma pistol
right hand: USNS .45 service pistol with sights
Ahh, the old "shield removal" technique on Legendary difficulty.
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 12:53 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Chris M at January 27, 2014 12:53 PM (nyxv/)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2014 12:53 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 27, 2014 12:53 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 12:53 PM (LiZW+)
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/zombiemax.asp
Hornady FTW.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 12:53 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at January 27, 2014 12:53 PM (naUcP)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Adam at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (LiZW+)
Yet another reason not to create a Facebook account.
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 27, 2014 04:52 PM (VtjlW)
Its going to be four weeks since last one for a new episode. Freaking networks.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Jaws at January 27, 2014 04:51 PM (Rbtz3)
Never, ever touch the red button.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 12:54 PM (38LLM)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:55 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Votermom at January 27, 2014 12:55 PM (GSIDW)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 12:55 PM (LiZW+)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 12:55 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: blaster at January 27, 2014 12:55 PM (BTTzz)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 12:55 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: jwest at January 27, 2014 12:56 PM (u2a4R)
Okay, I'm going to buy 2 boxes of this bitchin' ammo just to compensate for my libido.
Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2014 12:56 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 04:40 PM (PYAXX)
That was my initial impression, also. 96 grains is actually rather light for what appears to be a 9mm Parabellum (AKA Luger) projectile. I'll stick with my evil 185 grain .45ACP hollowpoint.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop posting from work at January 27, 2014 12:56 PM (T6MoX)
Posted by: Chelsea Danger at January 27, 2014 12:56 PM (mHol2)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 27, 2014 12:56 PM (WdbF7)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 12:57 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 12:57 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: McCool at January 27, 2014 12:57 PM (nCSwS)
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 12:57 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2014 12:58 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 27, 2014 12:58 PM (zZLRY)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 12:58 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 12:58 PM (t06LC)
Yep. Pistols don't have a "stun" setting...
Posted by: Vortex Lovera at January 27, 2014 12:58 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 27, 2014 12:58 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 12:58 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at January 27, 2014 12:58 PM (PGXA8)
Posted by: jwest at January 27, 2014 04:56 PM (u2a4R)
The obligatory Homer quote:
When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power... like God must feel when he's holding a gun.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 12:58 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 12:59 PM (UAMVq)
I could only watch it once; my dick needed time to recuperate.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 27, 2014 12:59 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 27, 2014 12:59 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 12:59 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: jwest at January 27, 2014 12:59 PM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2014 04:58 PM (GGCsk)
Painful for whom?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2014 12:59 PM (F75MN)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2014 01:00 PM (/FnUH)
Because that's more humane.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2014 01:00 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Arbalest at January 27, 2014 01:00 PM (FlRtG)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 01:00 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: no good deed at January 27, 2014 01:00 PM (vBhbc)
***
They brought the same level of anatomy and physiology research to that as they did to guns. Shoot a guy in the leg with a .22LR, hit the femoral artery, and start asking him questions. Better hurry.
Posted by: B at January 27, 2014 01:00 PM (Pson9)
Posted by: Francois Hollande at January 27, 2014 01:01 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 01:01 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 01:01 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Thorisin at January 27, 2014 01:01 PM (huLVs)
Posted by: Votermom at January 27, 2014 01:01 PM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 27, 2014 01:01 PM (XWw96)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 04:55 PM (lwkv9)<<<
I thought that the ice bullets were obliterated before they left the barrel. And wasn't there a meat bullet that fared little better?
Posted by: Hate Miser at January 27, 2014 01:01 PM (XCGHz)
I was thinking Venus fly trap vagina. But I am warped like that.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2014 01:01 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (SLkaE)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: Confused Hipster Vegan at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (tv7DV)
Posted by: backhoe at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (ULH4o)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (At8tV)
Revolver.
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: Kafiroon at January 27, 2014 01:02 PM (U0DWi)
never ever say this out loud if you are a gun owner
even if you use your weapon in clear cut self defense you will be charged with murder
you used the force to stop the threat
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 27, 2014 05:02 PM (At8tV)
"Your honour, I feared for my life and those of my family."
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 01:03 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2014 01:03 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 01:03 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Thorisin
Oh, it's a lot more painful than you think.
Posted by: Palin Steele's mom [/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 01:04 PM (cxs6V)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 27, 2014 01:04 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at January 27, 2014 01:04 PM (h53OH)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 01:04 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 01:04 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: leftward drivel at January 27, 2014 01:04 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 01:05 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: Gus Bailey at January 27, 2014 01:05 PM (SywTK)
The Christmas special and the Day of Doctor both sucked too.
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 01:05 PM (GQ8sn)
Pants wetting brought to you by the party that cheers when one of theirs:
Calls for the execution of anyone who belongs to the NRA
Calls for the murder or severe bodily injury of conservatives by--shoving through plate glass windows, punching back twice as hard, etc.
No.
Fuck these guys.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2014 01:05 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 27, 2014 01:05 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at January 27, 2014 01:05 PM (hpgw1)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 27, 2014 01:05 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at January 27, 2014 01:05 PM (/EkKm)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 27, 2014 01:06 PM (659DL)
Posted by: Bones at January 27, 2014 01:06 PM (fqXPm)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/m1028.htm
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 27, 2014 01:06 PM (q+fqH)
I smell a englishman
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 27, 2014 05:04 PM (At8tV)
Former Canadian. I can't spell certain words any other way because of my indoctrination to the Queen's English.
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 01:06 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 01:06 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 01:06 PM (lwkv9)
Posted by: Thorisin at January 27, 2014 01:07 PM (huLVs)
Posted by: Drider at January 27, 2014 01:07 PM (SgQAt)
@242
Sorta what I was thinking. It looks like it almost acts like a sabot round with the center shedding the spiky parts and penetrating. While the spiky parts look scary, they seem to stay together pretty well and don't travel too far making underpenetration a concern.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 01:07 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at January 27, 2014 01:07 PM (/EkKm)
***
If you squint, you can almost make out David Sirota.
Posted by: B at January 27, 2014 01:07 PM (Pson9)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 01:08 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] An Observation at January 27, 2014 01:09 PM (ylhEn)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 27, 2014 01:09 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: dogfish at January 27, 2014 01:09 PM (nsOJa)
@254
Someone could step on it I suppose. That would hurt. Especially at night when you're shuffling to the bathroom. Were these made by the Lego corp.? God knows they have nocturnal domestic landmines down to a science.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 01:09 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 01:10 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 01:10 PM (MMC8r)
One of the best military experiences evah........firing a beehive round out of an M67 Recoilless Rifle.
My boner lasted for WEEKS.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2014 01:10 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 01:11 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 01:11 PM (QxSug)
254 -
One of those dumb parody movies, with Charlie Sheen as an action hero, there was a scene where he was killing everyone in sight, and on-screen they were keeping track of his kills.
At one point, his weapon jams, so he reaches into a big barrel (or whatever) full of ammo and throws it at bad guys. Yep, killed 'em.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2014 01:11 PM (TOk1P)
Do they really have no recoil?
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 01:11 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Francois Hollande at January 27, 2014 01:11 PM (dfYL9)
He, uh, compares it to a shotgun round that--get this--is banned by Hague Convention.
Um?
Yes.
He does.
So, you buy this and you're a war criminal.
Fuck it. Let's all become war criminals. I's gettin' tired of being called a racist all the time anyway.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2014 01:11 PM (VjL9S)
Posted by: Drider at January 27, 2014 01:12 PM (SgQAt)
I think ammo marketers have it wrong . They should go with the tried and true form of naming something completely opposite of what it really is. Big guy called tiny, etc.
They should have rounds called marshmallow jhp or soft kitty fmj
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 01:12 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 05:03 PM (PYAXX)
NO!
You shut the fuck up and get a good lawyer.
Read this:
http://tinyurl.com/lethagy
It's written by a Moron!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2014 01:12 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 27, 2014 01:12 PM (XWw96)
Posted by: Thorisin at January 27, 2014 01:12 PM (huLVs)
@276
If someone let me fire off the Davy Crockett, I don't think I'd ever not be erect.
Of course, depending on wind currents it might glow and/or fall off, but it would be fully erect.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 01:12 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 01:12 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: Chelsea Danger at January 27, 2014 01:12 PM (mHol2)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 01:13 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: dudenolongerinsantacruz at January 27, 2014 01:13 PM (PGXA8)
Posted by: CUS at January 27, 2014 01:13 PM (wcLJG)
In WWI, our doughboys spent their down-time in the trenches filing saw teeth into their bayonets.
--------------------------------------------
Read "All Quiet on the Western Front". Both the Germans and the allies sharpened their intrenching tools for a little face splitting during charges.
Posted by: Soona at January 27, 2014 01:14 PM (vlwRu)
Posted by: Brewdog at January 27, 2014 01:14 PM (ZgUuK)
Posted by: © Sponge at January 27, 2014 01:14 PM (xmcEQ)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 01:14 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at January 27, 2014 01:14 PM (0q2P7)
(from wiki) MythBusters testing bullets that "won't leave evidence"
Ice Bullet (Busted) -- The ice bullet evaporated before it could leave the barrel. This myth was retested in Myths Revisited, and remained busted with slow-frozen ice.
Meat Bullet (Busted) -- The hamburger bullet fragmented on contact with the skin, causing only superficial damage.
Gelatin Bullet (Busted) -- The bullet did not cause fatal injury from the 6.5x52mm Mannlicher-Carcano round, but had better result from a revolver at point-blank range.
Posted by: Hate Miser at January 27, 2014 01:14 PM (XCGHz)
Posted by: Progressives everywhere at January 27, 2014 01:15 PM (UAMVq)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 01:15 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 27, 2014 01:15 PM (lwkv9)
@302
Its all about the tip on the noslers. Just the tip.
I've always wanted to use those tripleshok bullets or whatever. They seem nasty. Not as bad as my 50 Beowulf 500 grain bullets, but nasty.
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 27, 2014 01:16 PM (t06LC)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 01:16 PM (TE35l)
We're introducing Babykilling Bullets. Let's see what the Left does with that.
Posted by: Wham-O Mfg. at January 27, 2014 01:18 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2014 01:18 PM (LI48c)
282 -
When I was in Germany we got to fire their weapons. Standard German rifle (I forget what it was called) had a 7.62 round. It had a recoil.
One of my fondest memories was watching nitwits who were used to the M16 firing that thing and smacking themselves in the nose/chin/cheek with the thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 27, 2014 01:18 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 01:18 PM (J79eW)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 27, 2014 05:14 PM (PYAXX)
Nope.
5th Amendment to US Constitution speaks rather clearly about that issue.
Once again...you do not talk. Not a word other than rickb223's advice:
"I am really shaken up atm & would like to speak with my attorney".
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 27, 2014 01:19 PM (QFxY5)
The base of the bullet (inside the case) is solid, so the barrel rifling is still going to impart spin to keep it stable.
As far as slowing it down- probably not at the short ranges it was designed for.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 27, 2014 01:19 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 27, 2014 01:19 PM (XWw96)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 01:20 PM (Rm26J)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, Coke Fiend at January 27, 2014 01:20 PM (tv7DV)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 27, 2014 01:20 PM (At8tV)
Chicago Tribune Gun Expert: This bullet has a thing known as a do-hickie that might be a whatcha-call-it.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2014 01:20 PM (1Jaio)
My dickhead brother shot me with a bubble-gum bullet out of a ten pump air rifle. Oh yeah, it penetrated my pants and skin and bled for a good while.
Come to think of it, it's been over 30 years and I never got him back for that little stunt.
Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2014 01:20 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: FGCU_James at January 27, 2014 01:21 PM (if2JC)
One of the best military experiences evah........firing a beehive round out of an M67 Recoilless Rifle.
Do they really have no recoil?
Posted by: EC at January 27, 2014 05:11 PM (GQ8sn)
Technically, no. But the noise and backblast freaks you out enough that you jump like a kangaroo with a hotfoot. Or at least I did.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2014 01:21 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at January 27, 2014 01:21 PM (uYvZb)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 01:22 PM (J79eW)
Posted by: traye at January 27, 2014 01:23 PM (M8eya)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:23 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at January 27, 2014 01:24 PM (uYvZb)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 27, 2014 01:24 PM (JDIKC)
Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 27, 2014 01:24 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:25 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at January 27, 2014 01:25 PM (uYvZb)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:25 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: RobM1981 at January 27, 2014 01:26 PM (zurJC)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:26 PM (+VxsD)
Jeez, the only thing it needs is a feather boa and a candelabrum.
Posted by: pep at January 27, 2014 01:26 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:27 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:28 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 01:30 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 27, 2014 01:30 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:31 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 01:32 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:33 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 01:34 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:34 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 27, 2014 01:34 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:35 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 01:35 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 01:38 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: gp at January 27, 2014 01:38 PM (mk9aG)
FWIW A lot of FMJ rifle service rounds are designed to tumble when entering flesh as to enhance damage while remaining compliant with Hague Conventions (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/dec99-03.as) . Combined with relatively high velocity, it can cause a massive shock wave rippling through the wound cavity. This has been demonstrated throughout the twentieth century.
If you like to see the results of various rifle and handgun ammo fired through barriers, gel, etc. Try the Box O' Truth website where the guys running it shoot everything and anything including body armor, bulletproof glass, wall material, etc.
Posted by: wg at January 27, 2014 01:42 PM (u4T3n)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at January 27, 2014 01:44 PM (HsTG8)
410 97
The only benefit in coating a bullet with Teflon is that it reduces wear
on the barrel. It emphatically DOES NOT somehow make the projectile
"pierce armor" or whatever.
Back in the day, the ARGUMENTS were that the teflon allowed the bullet to pierce armor- so the LE types and lawyers emphatically pushed for their banning. No one really offered up proof that it did- on that it was MORE LIKELY to- in their arguments. Politicians, being of the not-so-sound mind, then proceeded to ban them.
At the same time, the Talon argument was going on; PHYSICIANS were the ones that got those pushed out. They claimed they were getting cut during surgery and that the cut gloves exposed them to nastiness. Again, no one produced a bloody glove with a slit in it to show proorf.
Hyperbole, thy name is gun control...
Posted by: Mr Wolf at January 27, 2014 01:46 PM (Kfm4G)
Posted by: lindafell at January 27, 2014 01:47 PM (PGO8C)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 27, 2014 01:54 PM (E4MKN)
Posted by: Airandee at January 27, 2014 02:22 PM (96/TO)
Posted by: Gunslinger at January 27, 2014 03:24 PM (4S7hN)
We need to ban pointy things.
Posted by: SGT. York at January 27, 2014 03:40 PM (8Uxxu)
Posted by: Deshroomius Bandersnatch at January 27, 2014 06:04 PM (w45V0)
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