April 24, 2014
— Ace My words, not hers, but that's her point.
"The white man is held to a moral standard that, in the West, men [who have immigrated] from other cultures are not held to," she told the Herald. ''If a white man sold his daughter into marriage, most people would be appalled and there'd be an outrage in any national context in any country in the West. But when it's a man from Pakistan or Somalia or Yemen or India, then what you see is this: 'Oh yes, but Â…'"...
Hirsi Ali, who lives in the US, believes women in developed countries are distracted by issues like work-life balance when they should focus on big-picture issues, such as women's safety. She says it is the responsibility of Western feminists to push these issues onto the public agenda - but only if the movement returns to its original values.
This is a several-weeks-old story, but I'm revisiting it on my way to discussing a newer story.
The letter demanding that Hirsi Ali be dis-invited from speaking at Brandeis was, get this, largely signed by women in the Women and Gender Studies program, and more-or-less-explicitly stated that Ali's focus on genuine repression of women took the focus off the trivial microagressions they prefer to gab about.
The Brandeis professors who demanded that Ayaan Hirsi Ali be "immediately" dis-invited wrote that "we are filled with shame at the suggestion that (Hirsi Ali's) above-quoted sentiments express Brandeis's values." The professors also castigated Hirsi Ali for her "core belief of the cultural backwardness of non-western peoples" and for her suggestion that "violence toward girls and women is particular to Islam." The professors note that such a view "obscure(s) such violence in our midst among non-Muslims, including on our own campus."
Well, they're not practicing forced clitorectomies at Brandeis, nor are they practicing forced marriage (which is essentially family-arranged rape for life), so I take their complaint to mean this:
Hirsi Ali's own story of genuine oppression, and her agitation about important, fundamental rights of, and dignities owed, to women, makes our own neurotic prattlings seem rather silly and fluffy by comparison.
One of the most important ideas in Post-Feminist philosophy (it's post-feminist now; this is just a degenerate, decadent, silly thing) is the concept of "rape culture."
"Rape culture" is crucial because it is the means by which the trivial is transmogrified into the profound. The fact that a man might commit a "microaggression" against a woman by opening the door for her is, in a series of logical steps, rapidly connected to something serious -- rape -- and thus invested with seriousness itself.
Even though it is by no means serious itself.
But the quick silly skipping "logical" steps go like this:
1. A man commits a "microaggression" against a woman by holding a door open for her, "Otherizing" her and suggesting she is infantile and unable to accomplish small tasks on her own.
2. This is a microaggressive power play which reifies the assumptions of the Patriarchy, about woman's role in society as essentially that of Object or Ornament even Trade Good.
3. This dehumanization of women -- the conscious microaggressive stripping of dignity, agency, and autonomy from women -- makes it more easy for a member of the Patriarchy to treat them as inhuman things.
4. This increases the likelihood of rape and in fact reinforces a "rape culture."
That's the reasoning, such as it is, and this reasoning is assumed (rarely spelled out for the listener) whenever a Post-Feminist attempts to invest some absolutely trivial, bubble-headed cultural complaint (such as Tina Fey's character on 30 Rock not being a real feminist) with some imaginary weightiness.
No one can argue that rape isn't a crime of great weight, and so whenever a Post-Feminist senses she's saying something so absurd and trivial it may make her look absurd and trivial, she knows to go through the "Rape Culture" Algorithm to insist that what she's saying isn't absurd and trivial at all, but Very, Very Important.
But of course I can play the same game with any subject and connect it to rape, murder, or Hitler, as you like.
I can connect, if I wanted, a movie I didn't like to Hitler in four steps or fewer; that would not make my whining about The Hobbit 2 any less trivial or any more "political." (But seriously, it was the worst movie I've seen in years. I literally said aloud, "I hate this f***ing movie" about halfway through. I think it might be worst than the Holocaust, but I'm not sure.)
This is a silly game, indulged by silly people.
Hirsi Ali's story is a threat to this version of Post-Feminist trivial pursuits, as that letter readily admits. Hirsi Ali is speaking of real rape -- not "rape culture" -- and real, physical aggressions, clitorectomies, daylight murders, all of which have the inevitable effect of making the pet obsessions of the Brandeis Women and Gender Studies Department seem rather more ridiculous than they already might appear.
Charles C.W. Cooke discussed this some weeks back:
Prepossessed as he was with the all-encompassing wars of his era, George Orwell complained that political language was “designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” Unlike Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the culture warriors of America’s pampered campuses are unlikely to be dealing in murder or in warfare or, for that matter, in anything of much consequence at all. Nevertheless, they enjoy playing assassin, painting glowing targets onto the backs of any idea that threatens their power and, one by one, seeking the bullseyes.
So, here's my point. Slate is a magazine much-devoted to the trivial and silly -- until recently, they were the proud (?) publisher of the mindthoughts of Matt Yglesias, now of Chuckleheadz.com -- and never is Slate more trivial and silly than its embarrassing, woman-shaming "XX Factor" column, aka "Politicz for Grrls."
And so here's he latest masterpiece from the XX Factor brain trust.
It comes -- appropriately enough -- from a junior in high school.
This is what Post-Feminists would rather talk about than Ayaan Hirsi Ali's first-hand encounters with real-world oppression of women.
McDonald's Gave Me the “Girl's Toy” With My Happy Meal. So I Went to the CEO.By Antonia Ayres-Brown
We found that 92.9 percent of the time, the store simply gave each child the toy that McDonaldÂ’s had designated for that childÂ’s gender.
In the fall of 2008, when I was 11 years old, I wrote to the CEO of McDonald’s and asked him to change the way his stores sold Happy Meals. I expressed my frustration that McDonald’s always asked if my family preferred a “girl toy” or a “boy toy” when we ordered a Happy Meal at the drive-through. My letter asked if it would be legal for McDonald’s “to ask at a job interview whether someone wanted a man’s job or a woman’s job?”A few weeks later, I received a short response from a McDonald’s customer satisfaction representative claiming that McDonald’s doesn’t train their employees to ask whether Happy Meal customers want boys’ or girls’ toys, and my experiences were not the norm.
This response was unsatisfying, so I began visiting more than a dozen local McDonald’s locations with my father to collect data. Ultimately, we brought a complaint to the Connecticut Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities against McDonald’s for discriminating on the basis of sex. Despite our evidence showing that, in our test, McDonald’s employees described the toys in gendered terms more than 79 percent of the time, the commission dismissed our allegations as “absurd” and solely for the purposes of “titilation [sic] and sociological experimentation.”All in all, this was a pretty humiliating defeat.
When a Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities tells you you're being absurd, you're probably doing something wrong.
But I still couldnÂ’t let it go.... So this past summer, we decided to test this assertion.In a series of 30 visits, we sent boys and girls, ages 7-11, into 15 McDonaldÂ’s stores to independently order a Happy Meal at the counter. We found that 92.9 percent of the time, the store, without asking, simply gave each child the toy that McDonaldÂ’s had designated for that childÂ’s gender...
In the most egregious instance, a McDonald’s employee asked a girl, “Would you like the girl's toy?” The girl responded, “No, could I have the boy's toy?” When the girl opened the container a moment later, she learned that notwithstanding her explicit request, a McDonald’s employee had given her the girl’s toy. This girl went back to the counter with the unopened toy and requested, “May I have a boy's toy, please?” The same McDonald’s employee replied, “There are only girl's toys.” We then sent an adult male into the store who immediately was given a boy’s toy.
"The most egregious incident" involving cisnormative distribution of Happy Meal toys, she means. I suppose, within that particular set, this might indeed be "the most egregious incident."
Oh by the way, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is not permitted to discuss her own experiences of genital mutilation and attempted forced marriage because that might "distract" from the important agenda items being pushed by Post-Feminists.
I will say one thing for this Junior Member of the Women and Gender Studies Social Justice Committee -- she is a more lucid writer than Matt Yglesias, and her piece actually contains information.
Not important information, but still, better than Yglesias.
The precocious inquiry yielded a series of communications between Ayres-Brown and the fast-food chain. It also led to some serious data collecting by the girl and her dad Ian Ayres — who is, unsurprisingly, a heavy-hitting Yale law professor and economist who has previously collaborated with his daughter on research — about McDonald’s employees and the Happy Meal gender bias.
Sounds like maybe someone is acting Paternalistically in helping someone get their Ivy League application essay together.
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Posted by: --- at April 24, 2014 01:13 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: The Brandeis Womyn Warrior For Righteousness and Social Justice at April 24, 2014 01:15 PM (8ZskC)
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Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 01:20 PM (uVkIH)
Whenever I go to McDonald's to buy a Happy Meal toy, they always ask me "for a boy or a girl"? That may be because I'm a grown man and I ask to see all of them so I can get the one(s) I want, but I always feel microagressed and Other'd.
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LOL. Nephews got My Little Pony toys the other day. Thank you Antonia! Toys for me to steal. Hope they have Twilight Princess Sparkles!
Posted by: Lea at April 24, 2014 01:20 PM (lIU4e)
That firs this idiot to a "T".
Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 24, 2014 01:20 PM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 01:20 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2014 01:20 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:21 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 24, 2014 01:21 PM (+lsX1)
Hey sweetie, your dad's a f@g.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 24, 2014 01:21 PM (5UteM)
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Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 24, 2014 01:22 PM (8ifMA)
Holding open a door - rape culture.
Malmo, Sweden (with a 500% increase in rapes after muslim immigration) - no rape culture.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 24, 2014 01:22 PM (sBUAE)
Posted by: Infidel at April 24, 2014 01:22 PM (cojT9)
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Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 24, 2014 01:23 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: Ayres-Brown at April 24, 2014 01:23 PM (WCnJW)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:23 PM (9W+0f)
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Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 24, 2014 01:24 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Observer from the watchtower at April 24, 2014 01:24 PM (yRZAE)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:24 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 01:24 PM (uVkIH)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 01:24 PM (LJ7Ze)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:25 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: WarOnWomenz! at April 24, 2014 01:25 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2014 01:25 PM (VhqUZ)
Posted by: samwing plover at April 24, 2014 01:25 PM (e15Qx)
I've mentioned it before, but about 80-85% of McDonald's restaurants are not owned by the McDonald's corporation but by independent franchisees. Going to a dozen of them could mean 1 to 3 completely different companies.
The whole thing is still stupid, but you can't hang the actions of one of these employees around the neck of the big company.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 24, 2014 01:25 PM (WvXvd)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2014 01:25 PM (TIIx5)
That's ABSOLUTELY true.
The other issue is that perversely the Big Mo's lack of divinity means the Imamas say "be like HIM!" in a way it is understood by Christians we simply cannot BE Christ.
We may strive to walk the path but we understand due to His Godhead that he has some advantages on the path.
Boy day in 'ghani pisses a lot of GIs off/.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 01:26 PM (TE35l)
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Posted by: WarOnWomenz! at April 24, 2014 01:27 PM (ZPrif)
heh
and there's only three t''s; I'm the tit-ignoramus after all
Posted by: J at April 24, 2014 01:27 PM (JyjXt)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:27 PM (9W+0f)
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Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 24, 2014 01:28 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 24, 2014 01:28 PM (1CroS)
probably bossy, tho. But she own's them, not McD
Posted by: J at April 24, 2014 01:29 PM (JyjXt)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 01:29 PM (uVkIH)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 01:29 PM (84gbM)
I thought- how could someone recommend I see this obviously under qualified person. Based on what- their common gender and a cocktail conversation.
It's a bit ridiculous to say you are "discriminated against" because of your gender. Then attempt to gain a job for which you are clearly unqualified, which you fail at because you are...not qualified. Then use that as evidence there is discrimination. This of course, ended badly.
Certain groups in society have created an entire grievance subculture. They are taught this contra-intellectual philosophy and then go our into the world with more grievances to keep it alive. They mostly lack skills to do anything and blame their personal failure on everyone else. Meanwhile, they never actual tried to make a meaningful contribution and generally abhor hard work.
By the way, I am not just picking on Women s Study. There are probably a hundred other that contribute to the grievance subculture.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 01:29 PM (wzWSd)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2014 01:29 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 01:29 PM (8zTpe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 05:27 PM (XyM/Y)
America did not exist in the 1600s. And if I am not mistaken the MA colony only hung 2 or 3 of them.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 24, 2014 01:29 PM (T2V/1)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 24, 2014 01:29 PM (T0NGe)
He'd apologize and refuse to aid the investigation if you're the right ethnicity....
true story
Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 01:29 PM (TE35l)
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Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 01:32 PM (gvWL9)
What? I'm not?
Well then, WTH. Show me yer bewbs there, sugar!
Posted by: pep at April 24, 2014 01:32 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:32 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2014 01:32 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 01:32 PM (XyM/Y)
Posted by: Avi at April 24, 2014 01:32 PM (Mwbb7)
Tell them to do something meaningful- like raise a family.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 01:32 PM (wzWSd)
You said 'opening doors for women' twice....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (knoK7)
Posted by: Dang at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (8zTpe)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 05:32 PM (XyM/Y)
Almost all are transplanted Northerners.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (5UteM)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 05:32 PM (wzWSd)
Kaboom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: The Jackhole at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (9W+0f)
"Yes, it does make your ass look fat. But so does everything else."
Posted by: tu3031 at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (1Hxgp)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (8ifMA)
"We can't criticize them. America hanged witches in the 1600s."
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Now that we have progressed as a society, we burn babies to generate electricity.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (sBUAE)
Posted by: awkward davies at April 24, 2014 01:33 PM (whqez)
AHEM!
//Chelsea Breanna Manning-Obama
Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 01:34 PM (TE35l)
I've heard of two kinds of arranged marriages: the kind where two families arrange for the marriage of their children. That is, both the bride and the groom are children, and the marriage doesn't take place right away, but is being planned for the future. The other kind is the one where one family arranges for their young daughter to be married to an older man. Many times, though not always, I don't think, the young girl's wishes will not be considered. The family makes the decision and the good daughter is expected to do her part.
"Rape for life" is a fair description of the 2nd kind, but what of the first? If two children are pushed into an arranged marriage, is one a rapist and the other a victim?
I don't know if it is the case that the 2 children kind is just something out of the past. In the parts of the world where this kind of thing is still going on, is it almost always the case where the male is an adult buying himself a bride, or is it the case that the 2 children variety is frequently happening?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 24, 2014 01:34 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: AmishDude at April 24, 2014 01:34 PM (T0NGe)
They do this shit because they are afraid of being women, and all that entials.
Just as metrosexuals are afraid of being men.
They unconsciously move themselves towards that creepy sci-fi idea of no gender.
It is totally fucked up.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bonehead liberal at April 24, 2014 01:34 PM (xggaJ)
Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2014 01:34 PM (VhqUZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 01:34 PM (LJ7Ze)
Posted by: eleven
Well, they admit to being overcome by the merest of comments and actions that others overlook on a daily basis.
They are weak and fragile self-admittedly, which is odd coming from the cadre that brays about being 'empowered' and 'self-fulfilled.'
They are weak, stupid children.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 24, 2014 01:34 PM (ujux6)
Maybe we can have a group prayer on Sunday's Open Thread?
I am VERY pissed off on the matter.
Posted by: sven10077 at April 24, 2014 01:34 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Observer from the watchtower at April 24, 2014 01:35 PM (yRZAE)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 24, 2014 01:35 PM (L8umz)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:35 PM (9W+0f)
"Yes, it does make your ass look fat. But so does everything else."\
Especially the Starbuck's Crappucino you suck down your gullet in 3 seconds flat.
Posted by: pep at April 24, 2014 01:35 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: tcn at April 24, 2014 01:35 PM (3kDQa)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 24, 2014 01:35 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: The Way It Should Have Gone at April 24, 2014 01:35 PM (WX3R9)
Even more heartening, DoSomething.org just posted a photo of a manager's notice on the wall of an actual McDonald's store instructing employees: "When a customer orders a happy meal you must ask 'will that be a My Little Pony toy? Or a Skylanders toy?' We will no longer refer to them as 'boy or girl toys.' "
Antonia Ayres-Brown
"So how about a My Little Pony toy, Sonny. You look like the type of boy who'd like a pretty pony sparkle toy. Hey everyone, look at the boy that plays with rainbow horsies. Haw Haw Haw!"
Yeah, let's just ignore the pscars this policy going to leave on little Egbert.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 01:36 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 24, 2014 01:36 PM (1CroS)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 01:36 PM (uVkIH)
Any yes, they all have advance degrees. Some Ivy League.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 01:36 PM (wzWSd)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:36 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: wooga at April 24, 2014 01:37 PM (/Ido6)
I want to mock these women mercilessly, but how?
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Point out that they are radical feminists because they don't have the looks or intelligence to get a man.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 24, 2014 01:37 PM (sBUAE)
Womyn's Studies= studying half of the population on the planet.
but conservatives are anti-science
Posted by: The Obvious Sock at April 24, 2014 01:37 PM (q+zA9)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:37 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: X at April 24, 2014 01:38 PM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:38 PM (9W+0f)
It's easy to mock them, and Lord knows they ask for it, but I do feel a bit of pity for those who listened to the zeitgeist and simply assumed they'd always have choices.
Posted by: pep at April 24, 2014 01:38 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: Soona at April 24, 2014 01:38 PM (zhmsH)
Posted by: Avi at April 24, 2014 01:38 PM (Mwbb7)
Don't bother. My new mantra is, "They will never, ever be happy." Seriously, if you're going to get that upset over a door being held open for you or being asked if you want a boy's or girl's McDonalds toy, you will never, ever be happy. And ya know what? That makes me happy. Very happy, actually. They are wasting the lives that they were given by bothering other people and their only reward is the boomerang of self-inflicted misery. Deep, dark, soul killing misery.
I revel in that.
Posted by: Dang at April 24, 2014 01:39 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: maddogg at April 24, 2014 01:39 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: whoever at April 24, 2014 01:39 PM (pjMym)
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 01:39 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: --- at April 24, 2014 01:40 PM (MMC8r)
McDonald's hamburgers only have meat from cows. This is gendered protein micro-aggression. We demand 50% bull meat be added to the mix.
Yee gads. That idea is just loony enough that some dippy dame might give it a whirl.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 01:40 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 05:37 PM (x3YFz)<<
Brother, my wife grabbed my ECC. I was like WTF you going with that??
I love that woman.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 01:40 PM (wzWSd)
Except this time, Julia has her clit cut off without anesthesia at age seven, is forced to marry an ugly crudely mannered cousin at age twelve, is being punitively cut, burned and scarred by her family at age seventeen for her failure to produce any male children, and then is offed by that cousin-husband when she is twenty in an "honor killing" for her having gone out in public without wearing her burka.
Predicted response to this from liberal feministas?
::: crickets :::
Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 01:40 PM (noWW6)
Okay, but tugging your forelock and kowtowing is a bit much. Stop it.
Posted by: pep at April 24, 2014 01:40 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 01:41 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 01:41 PM (gvWL9)
Posted by: dantesed at April 24, 2014 01:41 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:41 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 01:42 PM (LJ7Ze)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:42 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: tu3031 at April 24, 2014 01:42 PM (nsQhi)
See also, "science"
Posted by: Dang at April 24, 2014 01:42 PM (MNq6o)
Oops, maybe I kept that between us guys.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 24, 2014 01:42 PM (5UteM)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 24, 2014 01:42 PM (ZPrif)
Yeah, you've got a chance.
Posted by: Kate Beckinsale at April 24, 2014 01:43 PM (4nR9/)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 24, 2014 01:43 PM (8ifMA)
And I'll stop opening doors for women the day I'm no longer physically capable of doing so.
Posted by: jakeman at April 24, 2014 01:43 PM (vH4YP)
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 01:43 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:43 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 01:43 PM (gvWL9)
Posted by: Daybrother at April 24, 2014 01:43 PM (MW+Pw)
Posted by: Kate Beckinsdale at April 24, 2014 01:44 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 01:44 PM (XyM/Y)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:44 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 01:44 PM (LJ7Ze)
Only 50%?
I must have some bad luck then. I would place it higher.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 01:44 PM (JS0vr)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:44 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 01:45 PM (LJ7Ze)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 24, 2014 01:45 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 01:45 PM (XyM/Y)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 24, 2014 01:45 PM (lbN/1)
I met Kate Beckinsale in person. Trust me. The movies don't even do her justice. Not only is she beautiful, but absolutely charming.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 01:46 PM (wzWSd)
Posted by: --- at April 24, 2014 01:46 PM (MMC8r)
Wiki:
Kate Beckinsale was born on 26 July 1973 in England, and has resided in London for most of her life.
Posted by: pep at April 24, 2014 01:46 PM (4nR9/)
Are you sure about that? Smithsonian Magazine says 19 were hanged due to the Salem witch trials.
Posted by: bonhomme
Some were hung, some sunk.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 24, 2014 01:46 PM (5UteM)
Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 24, 2014 01:47 PM (gvWL9)
Posted by: Kate Beckinsdale at April 24, 2014 01:47 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:47 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: tu3031
No kidding. And I had to bring up onion rings in an earlier thread today.
Wait... why doesn't McDonalds have onion rings? Because they look more like vaginas than those paternalistic phallic French fries?! Where's my lawyer?
Posted by: Dang at April 24, 2014 01:47 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 01:47 PM (wzWSd)
Posted by: Daybrother at April 24, 2014 01:47 PM (52L3O)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 01:47 PM (LJ7Ze)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 24, 2014 01:48 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 05:47 PM (x3YFz) <<
Provided you are not wearing those yoga pants you get a pass.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 01:48 PM (wzWSd)
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 01:49 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:49 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 01:49 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2014 01:49 PM (tiOTz)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 01:50 PM (LJ7Ze)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:50 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 01:50 PM (uVkIH)
Posted by: Dan at April 24, 2014 01:50 PM (COpZ4)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:50 PM (x3YFz)
Meh. I learned 40 years ago that at least 50% of American women are spoiled princesses, If the Huns invaded they would be the first to sell the men out. Would not hesitate.
Posted by: Daybrother
"So you've raped and pillaged most of Eastern Europe? That's SO interesting. You must have just hoards of loot. Tell me, is there a Mrs The Hun?"
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 24, 2014 01:50 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2014 01:50 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 01:51 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2014 01:51 PM (CMkNk)
The Brandeis professors who protested her speaking say that they are filled with shame regarding Ali's comments.
No you fermented twats, you have no shame.
You think that Ali's statements about the violence and degredation of women and girls in other countries takes the focus off of the violence against women in the US and even on your own campus?????
So I guess that there are stoning deaths, acid in the face, genital mutilation, forced marriages of young girls to men, and beatings of women going on at Brandeis U?
If there are any woman that do need a serious slap down it is these demented injustice mongers.
Posted by: Cheri at April 24, 2014 01:51 PM (G+Wff)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:52 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:52 PM (zOTsN)
I still open doors for women, but have never been dressed down over it.
This is most likely due to the fact that in most public spaces, my presentation is on the intimidating side, due to physical build, facial expression, facial hair and choice of clothing."Leave me the hell alone or else" is the general air I strive for.
They hence tend to scurry past quickly without saying anything at all.
If I ever do get any indignation, I expect I'll reply by saying that I thought based on her appearance that she was "developmentally disabled" and was going to have trouble figuring out how the door worked.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 01:52 PM (noWW6)
And those of us born so hideously deformed that those things were never a "choice"? (You can't "choose" them without a man choosing you first, unless you're a lesbian...and don't lie, none of you have ever given an ugly woman more than routine courtesy.)
I really should have killed myself when I was 15, but I believed the "it gets better" lie. Pfft.
Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 01:52 PM (ZKzrr)
I like her. She's great eye candy, for sure, but she's also solid.
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 05:49 PM (x3YFz)<<
All true and also a great mom. There are plenty of people who could learn a lot from her.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 01:52 PM (wzWSd)
"Georgia insurers received more than 220,000 applications for health coverage in the Affordable Care ActÂ’s exchange as of the official federal deadline of March 31, state officials said Wednesday.
Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens, though, said premiums have been received for only 107,581 of those policies..."
Posted by: Country Singer at April 24, 2014 01:53 PM (vn9w4)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2014 01:53 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 24, 2014 01:53 PM (5UteM)
Half the comments on this thread are just that.
Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 01:53 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2014 01:54 PM (uVkIH)
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2014 01:54 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: HR at April 24, 2014 05:52 PM (ZKzrr) <<
Life is always worth living. It's what you do with it that counts.
It's never to late to be or do what you wanted to. As long as you are breathing you have choices.
don't quit.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 01:54 PM (wzWSd)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 24, 2014 01:55 PM (/djtm)
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 01:55 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 24, 2014 01:55 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at April 24, 2014 01:57 PM (tmFlQ)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:57 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 01:57 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 01:57 PM (NtHdR)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 01:57 PM (LJ7Ze)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at April 24, 2014 01:58 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 01:58 PM (NtHdR)
Posted by: Passerby at April 24, 2014 01:58 PM (sOlwy)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 01:58 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 01:58 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 24, 2014 01:58 PM (/djtm)
Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 01:58 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Hairy Reid at April 24, 2014 01:59 PM (A98Xu)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2014 01:59 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 02:00 PM (XyM/Y)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 02:00 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: torquewrench
Around Christmas this last year I was walking into a store and barely wiggled into a door that was closing without touching it (flu season and it was raining and cold - had my hands in my pockets) and then realized a woman was standing there waiting for me to hold it open for her. By the time I realized it it was too late. No turning back. I looked like the biggest bastard in town. Made me laugh. And feel kinda bad. But mostly it made me laugh.
Posted by: Dang at April 24, 2014 02:00 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 24, 2014 02:00 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: eleven at April 24, 2014 02:00 PM (VhqUZ)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 24, 2014 02:00 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 24, 2014 02:01 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 02:01 PM (NtHdR)
Posted by: The Chicken at April 24, 2014 02:01 PM (PAplM)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 02:01 PM (LJ7Ze)
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 02:02 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 24, 2014 02:02 PM (HDwDg)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 02:02 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: logprof at April 24, 2014 02:03 PM (v6uvG)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 02:03 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: eureka! at April 24, 2014 02:03 PM (q7DBM)
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 02:03 PM (nqBYe)
I usually resort to telling them that "MY mother taught ME manners".
That usually will cut off all BS.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 02:03 PM (JS0vr)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 24, 2014 02:04 PM (NtHdR)
I don't know about that. I've seen some UGLY pregnant women.
That had to happen somehow.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 24, 2014 02:05 PM (JS0vr)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 24, 2014 02:05 PM (oerr2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 02:05 PM (XyM/Y)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 02:05 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 24, 2014 02:06 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: thunderb at April 24, 2014 02:06 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: willow at April 24, 2014 02:06 PM (nqBYe)
Boehner on the Tea Party
"I've gone to hundreds of tea party events over the last four years. The makeup is pretty much the same. You've got some disaffected Republicans, disaffected Democrats. You always have a handful of anarchists.They are against everything. Eighty percent of the people at these events, are the most ordinary Americans you've ever met. None of whom have ever been involved in politics..."
I guess I am 'Disaffected' and 'against everything'.
Keep winning those hearts and minds, Bonehead.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at April 24, 2014 02:06 PM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 24, 2014 02:07 PM (lbN/1)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 24, 2014 02:07 PM (8ifMA)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 24, 2014 02:07 PM (9W+0f)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 02:07 PM (XyM/Y)
Damn. Whole lot of "fallacy of hasty generalization" going on in this thread.
I have known a number of perfectly pleasant and happy women who honestly did prefer not to become mothers. Not everyone wishes to do so.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 24, 2014 02:09 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2014 02:09 PM (LJ7Ze)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 24, 2014 02:09 PM (qyfb5)
The feminazis have no credibility whatsoever.
They supported the sexual predator, Bill Clinton.
And they turn a blind eye to things that are done to conservative women in politics.
It's clear that the Leftist feminazis' first priority is forwarding leftism...and actual feminist principles are disposable in the service of their politics.
Posted by: wheatie at April 24, 2014 02:09 PM (la7X9)
Posted by: whoever at April 24, 2014 02:09 PM (pjMym)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 24, 2014 02:10 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 24, 2014 02:10 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 24, 2014 02:11 PM (dMSj2)
Umm. Not like sleep with one eye open scared or boil your pet bunny scared. But just enough to stop those stupid impulses we all have.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2014 02:11 PM (wzWSd)
Wait, you mean, there's a TV series with religion as its central core produced by a bunch of writers, directors and actors who have absolutely no clue about the religion the series is supposed to be about? I can't wait to miss it.
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 24, 2014 02:12 PM (I8YZX)
makeup is pretty much the same. You've got some disaffected
Republicans, disaffected Democrats. You always have a handful of
anarchists.They are against everything. Eighty percent of the people at
these events, are the most ordinary Americans you've ever met. None of
whom have ever been involved in politics..."
I guess I am 'Disaffected' and 'against everything'.
I think he's saying that the handful of anarchists are against everything. He's also saying that 80% of the tea party people are "the most ordinary Americans you've ever met. None of whom have ever been involved in politics..."
I don't have a problem with that.
Posted by: Dang at April 24, 2014 02:13 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Saber Alter at April 24, 2014 02:14 PM (R/KIS)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 24, 2014 02:15 PM (60Vyp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2014 02:16 PM (XyM/Y)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 24, 2014 02:21 PM (L02KD)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 24, 2014 02:22 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: FoxHunt at April 24, 2014 02:23 PM (VF4lD)
Posted by: tangonine at April 24, 2014 02:24 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: whoever at April 24, 2014 02:33 PM (pjMym)
Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at April 24, 2014 02:34 PM (uopHF)
The "feminists" of the US complain about the most trivial things because the lion's share of the important ones are already won, but they have no idea what to do with their forced anger and outrage.
Again, well said, and thank you for saying it.
Posted by: acethepug at April 24, 2014 02:35 PM (VHuBk)
Posted by: kathysaysso at April 24, 2014 02:39 PM (6H6o8)
Posted by: kathysaysso at April 24, 2014 02:41 PM (6H6o8)
Posted by: Decaf at April 24, 2014 02:41 PM (e8J31)
Posted by: JeffC at April 24, 2014 02:42 PM (TR6Cq)
Posted by: Decaf at April 24, 2014 02:50 PM (e8J31)
Posted by: whoever at April 24, 2014 02:58 PM (pjMym)
I'm the victim, not YOU! Shut up shut up shut up about your stupid genital mutilation! SHUT UP! You're taking away attention from my analysis of the Vagina Monologues, you filthy bitch!
Posted by: Warden at April 24, 2014 03:05 PM (HzhBE)
Posted by: Thatch at April 24, 2014 03:11 PM (qYvEa)
Im Norwegian lurker, but we had that anti-jihadism, "all muslims are salafis-and-the-people-helping-them-are-traitors" up close. Hirshi Ali got invited to speak, but didnt get an honorary award. I think thats fair enough. She really really is pissed at islam, for a good reason. But still, saying that there is no moderate islam is not, in my eyes, constructive and worthy an award. On behalf of a fuck of a lot of local translators who helped out allied force during the last years.
Posted by: Fnord at April 24, 2014 03:16 PM (SMHx7)
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Posted by: MTF at April 24, 2014 03:23 PM (Px4PF)
Posted by: Fnord at April 24, 2014 03:28 PM (SMHx7)
Posted by: Fnord
Since when do Christians kill little girls for going to school? Strap bombs to their children? Make their women cover their faces in public? Believe me, as a Christin, you would hear a lot of Christian denounce anyone who claimed to be a Christian and did those things. Islam, not so much. Pretty fucking quiet with those moderate islamic folks.
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