March 31, 2014
— Ace Update: France's PM has resigned. MereMortal posts this tweet:
French Prime Minister Ayrault's office says he has resigned as prime minister - @Reuters
Note this is not the President (Hollande), who will remain in office even longer than Obama (the next presidential election is sometime in 2017, probably March).
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"Nightmarish," says LeMonde.
"Without precedent," says Le Figaro.
France just held its municipal elections -- held every two years to vote in mayors, town councilors, etc. -- and the Socialists (PS, Parti Socialist) lost badly.
At least 155 towns with 9,000 inhabitants or more switched from leftist rule (PS or associated leftist parties) to rightist (usually Sarkozy's party, l'UMP). Some towns, which have had socialist rule for 37 or 43 years, have now dumped the socialist party in favor of the UMP.
Limoges has been ruled by socialists since 1912 -- except during the Vichy years (when the Nazis ruled it) and except for 1946-47, when it was ruled by... Communists. That town has now flipped to a UMP mayor.
The "far right" party, the Front National (FN), picked up something like 15 mayorships as well.
The Prime Minister (himself PS) confessed the defeat.
Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault acknowledged the vote was "a defeat for the government and the [Socialist] majority"."This message is clear... The president will draw conclusions, and he will do so in the interest of France,'' he added, in an apparent reference to a likely cabinet reshuffle.
These elections don't directly affect the national government. The elections for the French Senate will be held this September (I believe this is exactly the midway point in a President's five-year term). But this is the public's first chance to weigh in on Hollande's socialist rule, and they're not happy about it.
I doubt this has much to do with American politics, except in this minor way. When Democrats are in trouble, the media frequently portrays the public as "in an anti-incumbent" mood, as if they're just against incumbents, period, without parsing out between which incumbents they're most displeased by.
Similar crap was/is going on in France, with much made of the very poor turnout rate -- the elections featured an all-time high of people choosing not to vote in a municipal election.
Thus the public was in an "anti-incumbent" mood.
But they didn't vote out all incumbents. Only three towns moved from having a rightist (UMP) mayor to having a leftwing one. Meanwhile, at least 155 moved the other way, in what is being called the droitisation (rightward movement) of the electorate.
Hollande is not directly affected by this. Even if he looses the September elections, he still won't be booted out of power, because the Prime Minister is selected by the Senate, but the President (like the President in America) serves his full term no matter who holds the Senate.
But this is obviously a major blow to the left. So much so that Hollande will address the nation at 8 PM (their local time) to say something or other about what is variously being called a "rout," "debacle," and "penalty" for the left.
Interestingly, it's also frequently said that a "vague bleu" swept France -- a Blue Wave. The French have retained the historical use of red for the left, so the right is blue.
Oh it's also being called the left's Berezina. The French don't speak of "meeting one's Waterloo," for some reason. Usually they refer to another of Napoleon's major setbacks, that at the Battle of Berezina (a river in Russia in 1812). Like our own Waterloo expression, it means "disaster" or "catastrophe).
BTW: There's some lame spin in the world press that the left's "consolation" is that Paris elected its first female mayor.
That is not consolation. Hildago's opponent, NKM (I forget her full name) was also a woman.
It has been known that Paris would have a female mayor, whether the PS candidate Hildago or the UMP candidate NKM, for a full year.
Meanwhile, some "anti-fascism" groups are protesting the FN's wins in some towns by... threatening political violence.
I'm not sure if they understand what "anti-fascism" means.
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Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 08:19 AM (PYAXX)
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Posted by: CJ at March 31, 2014 08:23 AM (9KqcB)
I specifically invoked the Hollande analogy, and I predicted that Obama would see a hard tumble in his approval ratings just as Hollande had already had by that time. All has transpired as I have foreseen.
Now, hopefully, this rejection of the left by the French electorate will be mirrored again by the American electorate this fall.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 31, 2014 08:24 AM (noWW6)
Lose: to fail to keep or maintain; to part with or come to be without, through theft accident or negligence.
Posted by: miked at March 31, 2014 08:25 AM (xaIQZ)
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Posted by: Chris_Balsz at March 31, 2014 08:47 AM (5xmd7)
Posted by: David Axlerod at March 31, 2014 08:47 AM (kFxpe)
Heh, not six weeks in 1940?
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Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 08:53 AM (HLprW)
Posted by: French Socialists at March 31, 2014 08:53 AM (gOoFi)
Which one of these parties is the Tea Party one?
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 31, 2014 08:54 AM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 08:54 AM (ZPrif)
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Posted by: Chris Hayes at March 31, 2014 08:55 AM (kFxpe)
Posted by: I can't see Russia from here at March 31, 2014 08:55 AM (ld2OA)
Posted by: François Hollande at March 31, 2014 08:55 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 08:55 AM (ZPrif)
While it might be significant, it also might not be... or at least not significant of anything other than provincial politics.
If, for example, the towns are losing revenue to the federal government, it might cause a backlash. That wouldn't make them less socialist, just greedy to keep it all for themselves.
I don't know, I'm just speculating. It would also be important to know if these were mostly small towns, or if the larger cities are included in the discussion.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2014 08:55 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 08:55 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 08:56 AM (HLprW)
Posted by: Zombie Peter Jennings at March 31, 2014 08:56 AM (LSJmV)
I'm guessing because the Brits already co-opted the Waterloo expression, and the French weren't about to copy their old enemies across the pond.
I wish Europe would get its collective head out of its equally collective ass and put aside its socialist/communist/Marxist/other-words-ending-in-IST history and start actually trying to FUNCTION again. This deluge in France is a welcome breath of fresh air, but I fear that -- just like here in the States -- it won't translate to long-term change.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 08:56 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Daybrother at March 31, 2014 08:56 AM (CAuLh)
Posted by: Les Franch at March 31, 2014 08:56 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at March 31, 2014 08:57 AM (gOoFi)
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Any support for any form of private ownership of property get one branded as "far right" in Europe.
Posted by: RoyalOil at March 31, 2014 08:57 AM (VjL9S)
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Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 08:58 AM (pUAXu)
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Posted by: Greg Lake at March 31, 2014 09:00 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: War Pug at March 31, 2014 12:54 PM (vFh9Q)
Unfortunately, in modern day France (and Europe in general), "towns with large Arab populations (who have no wish to integrate)" are increasingly the norm.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 09:00 AM (4df7R)
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Posted by: ace at March 31, 2014 09:00 AM (/FnUH)
It would also be important to know if these were mostly small towns, or if the larger cities are included in the discussion.
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The larger cities also participated. Paris got a new socialist mayor, while Le Pen's party got Marseilles.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2014 09:00 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 09:00 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Zombie Mayor Dailey Sr at March 31, 2014 09:01 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2014 09:01 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Shit DeGaulle Probably Said, Vol. 3 at March 31, 2014 09:01 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 09:02 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 31, 2014 09:02 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2014 09:02 AM (/FnUH)
They lost a soccer player. And Gerard Depardieu.
Posted by: HR at March 31, 2014 09:02 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: SFGoth at March 31, 2014 09:03 AM (WJUSt)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 31, 2014 09:03 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: ace at March 31, 2014 09:03 AM (/FnUH)
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Posted by: Commies at March 31, 2014 09:03 AM (vFh9Q)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 09:04 AM (7ObY1)
[drill runs for cover]
Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 31, 2014 09:04 AM (rdiUQ)
France will have another terror attack soon, like Spain right before the election that was to put their government to the right of the mean.
Watch. The jihadis can't abide with this type of opinion change.
Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2014 09:05 AM (NM86I)
Posted by: Jay in Ames at March 31, 2014 09:05 AM (i2Lsf)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 09:05 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: François Truffaut at March 31, 2014 09:06 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2014 09:06 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 09:07 AM (aDwsi)
But admitting that they got their collective asses kicked by the hated English??? MERDE!!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 31, 2014 09:07 AM (V8t6I)
Posted by: Commies at March 31, 2014 09:07 AM (vFh9Q)
Posted by: Foreign Exchange Student at March 31, 2014 09:07 AM (Mix9j)
Riot police called in as violent clashes break out across France after far-right National Front win dramatic gains in local elections
http://tinyurl.com/ktedgq6
(Daily Mail)
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 31, 2014 09:08 AM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Low Information President at March 31, 2014 09:08 AM (yFb77)
Posted by: Parisian at March 31, 2014 09:08 AM (R5UOB)
They are modern day national socialists.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 31, 2014 09:08 AM (WdbF7)
Posted by: David Brooks at March 31, 2014 09:09 AM (kFxpe)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 09:09 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 09:09 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: Anti-Commie Pug at March 31, 2014 09:09 AM (vFh9Q)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 31, 2014 09:09 AM (HLprW)
I never understood why Napoleon wanted to take Waterloo, Iowa anyway. Its so far from France, no wonder he lost.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 09:09 AM (0Kobm)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 31, 2014 09:10 AM (HDwDg)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 09:10 AM (zEeUf)
Posted by: zombie at March 31, 2014 09:10 AM (mizYg)
Posted by: French soldier at March 31, 2014 09:10 AM (R5UOB)
Please to be explaining. Joke? Or something about the diet?
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:10 AM (gtjN1)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 31, 2014 09:10 AM (tmfG5)
Posted by: CNN at March 31, 2014 09:11 AM (Lis1g)
Posted by: Madame DeFarge at March 31, 2014 09:11 AM (aDwsi)
They are a monkeylike people with a lack of personal hygiene.
In their defense, we found their roads very free of litter, potholes and meaningful armed resistance.
Posted by: A. Hitler at March 31, 2014 09:11 AM (8ZskC)
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Posted by: ace at March 31, 2014 09:13 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: French Socialist at March 31, 2014 09:13 AM (R5UOB)
The average Frenchman / woman is no more stylish than the average American in Milwaukee. However, the young kids have a different attitude about style than American young kids. Where an American kid might have two or three weeks worth of outfits, the French kid has one or two outfits. But those one or two outfits are up to the minute stuff, instead of just up to the latest trend.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:14 AM (gtjN1)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 09:14 AM (zEeUf)
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Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:15 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 31, 2014 09:16 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 09:16 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: French Commie at March 31, 2014 09:16 AM (zOTsN)
http://www.frontnational.com/le-projet-de-marine-le-pen/
Google Translate is some help but I fear I'll miss the nuances, and I don't trust the media to tell me the truth.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 09:16 AM (4df7R)
You misspelled RINO.
Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 31, 2014 09:16 AM (rdiUQ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 01:15 PM (gOoFi)
Nothing explains the Jerry Lewis thing. Not even Jerry Lewis can explain the Jerry Lewis thing.
Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 09:16 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 09:16 AM (zEeUf)
Nevergiveup, those prisoner exchanges never quite work out the way the Western Left imagines they should.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 31, 2014 09:17 AM (YV5Kj)
Posted by: maddogg at March 31, 2014 09:17 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2014 09:17 AM (zoehZ)
That one I can't explain. I don't think it's true anymore though. I think if you ask anyone under 30 about Jerry Lewis and you might get a quizzical look.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:17 AM (gtjN1)
Posted by: MathMom at March 31, 2014 09:17 AM (tYZkY)
Posted by: Jerry Lewis at March 31, 2014 09:17 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Foreign Exchange Student at March 31, 2014 09:17 AM (Mix9j)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 09:17 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Cheese Eaters & Monkeys Association at March 31, 2014 09:18 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 09:18 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 31, 2014 01:17 PM (gtjN1)
You'd probably get that look from them no matter what you asked them. Unless it was about something vapid and meaningless
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2014 09:18 AM (1Jaio)
Does the Right in France really object to Socialism? Are do they just want a socialism that is run by French Catholics instead of atheists and muslims?
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Last time I was in Europe, the cathedrals were empty of parishoners, only tourists. I read somewhere that less than 5% of Europeans attend church regularly.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2014 09:19 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Tobias Fünke at March 31, 2014 09:19 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 09:19 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: D-Lamp at March 31, 2014 09:20 AM (bb5+k)
She goes to France and talks about the tea party, and finds many people who want to make the French tea party happen. She has been teaching tea party to the French for several years. maybe she is making a dent!
Posted by: MathMom at March 31, 2014 01:17 PM (tYZkY)
We can certainly hope so, MathMom!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 09:20 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 09:21 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 01:15 PM (t3UFN)
Bribery using a man's life as ransom, is not cynical at all, and is bound to be the cement for a lasting peace. How could it be otherwise?
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at March 31, 2014 09:21 AM (BZAd3)
I hope this is just a rumor. One thing has NOTHING to do with the other. This is NOT a middle east bazaar. This is the security of the State of Israel that is involved and lowering it to this disgusting trade would be just dead wrong
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 01:15 PM (t3UFN)
No deals, please. Pollard needs to stay in prison until he's dead. He's qualitatively no different from Aimes, Hansen, or the members of the Walker ring. A traitor is a traitor. Treason is treason. I don't care who he was spying for.
Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 09:21 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: D-Lamp at March 31, 2014 09:21 AM (bb5+k)
That one I can't explain. I don't think it's true
anymore though. I think if you ask anyone under 30 about Jerry Lewis and
you might get a quizzical look.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 31, 2014 01:17 PM (gtjN1)
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That's the look of every citizen of Paris, whether one asks them a question or non.
Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2014 09:21 AM (NM86I)
Posted by: Kim Jong Un at March 31, 2014 09:21 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 09:21 AM (zEeUf)
Speaking of moving adroitly right, does France have a National Dance?
Russia has that squat kick thing, we got the Jitterbug, Latins have theirs, I know not that the French dance.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 09:21 AM (0Kobm)
Posted by: Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault at March 31, 2014 09:22 AM (XxAYS)
Q. Why do they bury the french with their asses sticking out of the ground?
A. So the germans can park their bicycles.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 31, 2014 09:22 AM (FMbng)
Because of course they are.
This is why I want toa ctually know what the hell FN's legislative and policy priorities are so I can decide if they're legitimately fascist, or just not socialists.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 09:22 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 31, 2014 09:23 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: D-Lamp at March 31, 2014 09:23 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 09:23 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Guy who always says en [s]fuego[/s] flambe at March 31, 2014 09:23 AM (g4TxM)
So I notice a lot of my more health-conscious friends promoting Chipotle as a healthier alternative to burger joints.
So we've decided to choose the cuisine of Mexico -- the only country with an obesity rate higher than America -- as the standard for a healthy diet?
Posted by: Flatbush Joe
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Good one.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2014 09:24 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 31, 2014 09:24 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 09:24 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
Yes, two in fact.
The Invisible Wall and The Rope.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 31, 2014 09:24 AM (VG9IS)
The French do dance.
They just don't lead in the dance.
Genetics, I guess
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 31, 2014 09:25 AM (si68n)
I think Polynesia has a higher obesity rate, but point taken. Mexican food is junk food.
Anecdotally, I actually lost weight eating Mexican food regularly. I counted my calories and only ate two meals / day. Mexican is very filling and cheap.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:25 AM (gtjN1)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 09:25 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:26 AM (t3UFN)
Speaking of moving adroitly right, does France have a National Dance?
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Yes, roughly translated, it is called 'drop your weapon and run'
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2014 09:26 AM (eoeps)
Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 31, 2014 09:26 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 01:21 PM (ZPrif)
Ha! Yeah so a couple weeks ago a ordered the fabled Chipotle Quesarito. It's a burrito wrapped in a quesadilla. That was a rough night, but completely worth it.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 31, 2014 09:27 AM (WdbF7)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 31, 2014 09:27 AM (g4TxM)
Empty Seats Galore þ@EmptySeatsPics
Scene behind home plate at the New York Mets game today. #MLB #OpeningDay pic.twitter.com/pSqdK2LaNE
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 01:23 PM (ZPrif)
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C'mon. It's a Mets game.
Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2014 09:27 AM (NM86I)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 31, 2014 09:27 AM (5tpzF)
Posted by: fluffy at March 31, 2014 09:27 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 09:28 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 09:28 AM (aDwsi)
Russia has that squat kick thing, we got the Jitterbug, Latins have theirs, I know not that the French dance.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 01:21 PM (0Kobm)
I don't know if they have a national dance per se, but the French have contributed quite a bit to the history of dance. The minuet, the gavotte, the farandole, the rondeau, just to name a few. And there's always the can-can.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 09:28 AM (4df7R)
Empty Seats Galore @EmptySeatsPics
Scene behind home plate at the New York Mets game today. #MLB #OpeningDay pic.twitter.com/pSqdK2LaNE
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 01:23 PM (ZPrif)
Well, Mets.
Posted by: joncelli at March 31, 2014 09:28 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: French Commie at March 31, 2014 09:29 AM (zOTsN)
Because people still internalize the out of date "carbs are good, fat is bad" advice from the government that made Americans fat in the first place.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 31, 2014 09:29 AM (B/VB5)
All the children sing
All the dancers start to sway in time
The orchestra begins to play
Somebody pours the wine
The sun and moon collide
Isn't gravity a funny thing
The universe explodes apart
All the children sing
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 31, 2014 09:29 AM (e8kgV)
I was looking into AllStar Club tickets for the Mariners opening home game. $219/ticket. I might do it.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:29 AM (gtjN1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 09:29 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: French Commie at March 31, 2014 09:30 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 09:30 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 09:30 AM (x3YFz)
Q: What is the difference between a bucket of shit and an New York Mets fan?
A: The bucket.
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Q: What do New York Mets fans and sperm have in common?
A: One in 3,000,000 has a chance of becoming a human being.
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Q: Why did the Post Office recall their latest stamps?
A: They had pictures of Mets players on them and people couldn't figure out which side to spit on.
Posted by: phreshone at March 31, 2014 09:31 AM (kFxpe)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 09:31 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at March 31, 2014 09:31 AM (h0ygp)
I don't see how that answers the question. Mexican food is all carbs; tortillas, rice, beans.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:31 AM (9PrpA)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at March 31, 2014 09:32 AM (WdbF7)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 09:32 AM (zEeUf)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 09:32 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 31, 2014 09:32 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: French Commie at March 31, 2014 09:32 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2014 09:32 AM (Mix9j)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2014 09:33 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 09:33 AM (7ObY1)
I like throwing out random questions just for the entertaining answers you morons/ettes give. Rarely a disappointment.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 31, 2014 09:33 AM (0Kobm)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 31, 2014 09:33 AM (zfY+H)
What'cha got?
I'm not a gardener, can you get Baobab trees? I think having one would be cool.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:33 AM (9PrpA)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:34 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 09:34 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 09:34 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 09:34 AM (7ObY1)
Exactly. So people who think carbs are the greatest will think Mexican is "healthy". Especially when you add in the easily visible vegetables, like Allen G. noted.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 31, 2014 09:34 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 09:34 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:34 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2014 09:34 AM (Mix9j)
Russia has that squat kick thing, we got the Jitterbug, Latins have theirs, I know not that the French dance.
You had one eye in the mirror as you watched yourself gavotte.
Posted by: Carly Simon at March 31, 2014 09:34 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2014 09:35 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Chris_Balsz at March 31, 2014 09:35 AM (5xmd7)
** squirt **
Posted by: A. Weiner at March 31, 2014 09:35 AM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 31, 2014 09:35 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 31, 2014 09:36 AM (aDwsi)
The modern day ones have figured out that if you transform slowly enough over a century or so while also seizing popular media, the transition can be done and the people can be made to believe that hell is heaven and heaven is hell.
(See: America 2003-2008 and America 2009-Present.)
Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Holocene Epoch at March 31, 2014 09:36 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 09:36 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Moisturizing Husband at March 31, 2014 09:36 AM (Mix9j)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:36 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 09:37 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Rachael Ray's Husband at March 31, 2014 09:37 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: garrett at March 31, 2014 09:37 AM (Mix9j)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 09:37 AM (zEeUf)
Why is the US military dumping mine-resistant vehicles everywhere?
Posted by: Chris_Balsz
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No kidding - this will mess with my border control plan.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 31, 2014 09:37 AM (eoeps)
I'm not a gardener, can you get Baobab trees? I think having one would be cool.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 31, 2014 01:33 PM (9PrpA)
Jane's Magnolia, sometimes called a tulip tree.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 09:38 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 01:16 PM (ZPrif)
Never ascribe to malice that which can readily be explained by incompetence.
Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Holocene Epoch at March 31, 2014 09:38 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 09:38 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 09:38 AM (zEeUf)
Downscaling the military (which tends to be conservative and might question the executive order declaring Ace a war criminal) and upscaling local law enforcement (who have already shown a willingness to fire upon their neighbors willy-nilly if cool gear is involved).
Posted by: Ian S. at March 31, 2014 09:38 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 09:38 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 31, 2014 01:33 PM (zfY+H)
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In Europe, that's pretty much what it boils down to.
Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2014 09:38 AM (NM86I)
Posted by: Moisturizing Husband at March 31, 2014 09:39 AM (Mix9j)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2014 09:39 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: McCool at March 31, 2014 09:40 AM (nCSwS)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 09:40 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Percy Gryce at March 31, 2014 09:40 AM (/JTkz)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 09:40 AM (x3YFz)
I hope it survives, the pictures online are lovely.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:41 AM (9PrpA)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 01:38 PM (x3YFz)
Yep, this is the second one I planted. The last one got up about 4 feet and then a 3 day cold snap in May killed it. (mid 20s)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 09:41 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 09:41 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 31, 2014 09:41 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Smerconish
He went to my high school, two years behind me. That's all I have, I didn't know him.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 31, 2014 09:41 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 09:41 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 09:42 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: MacGruber at March 31, 2014 09:42 AM (XxAYS)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:42 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Joey Choo Choo at March 31, 2014 09:42 AM (gOoFi)
Teenaged son probably pissed off his Dad. So Dad said, "I haven't embarrassed you enough lately, howzabout this one..."
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:43 AM (9PrpA)
Um, no. Lee's Retreat refers to the Army of Northern Virginia running away from Grant and the Army of the Potomac in 1865. Ending with the surrender of the South at Appomattox Court House.
Gettysburg was 1863. But you are correct that Grant was in Vicksburg at the time.And while Lee did retreat from Gettysburg the North did not follow.
http://www.civilwartraveler.com/EAST/VA/va-southside/index.html
Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 31, 2014 09:43 AM (rdiUQ)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 31, 2014 01:41 PM (9PrpA)
Yep the first time I saw one in bloom I looked at wifey and said gots to have one of those.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 31, 2014 09:43 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 31, 2014 09:43 AM (zEeUf)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 31, 2014 09:43 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2014 09:43 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 01:28 PM (4df7R)
Pics or the dance doesn't exist.
Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Holocene Epoch at March 31, 2014 09:43 AM (hHFOx)
I wonder what said police depts will do when they need maintenance and spare parts.
Will they be able to order parts and get them serviced from DoD?
Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 09:43 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 09:44 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 09:44 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:46 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 09:46 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: blaster at March 31, 2014 09:46 AM (4+AaH)
As Insty noted, we're all becoming conspiracy theorists now.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 31, 2014 09:47 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:47 AM (t3UFN)
Olde tymie slang is funny.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:47 AM (9PrpA)
Posted by: ontherocks at March 31, 2014 09:48 AM (tmfG5)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 09:48 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 09:48 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: bonhomme at March 31, 2014 01:48 PM (9PrpA)
Hey, that rhymes with 'testiculating'!
Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 09:49 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2014 09:49 AM (HsTG8)
How do they plan to get them back across the pond from Afghanistan? I'm guessing the military isn't going to foot that bill or they'd just keep 'em.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 09:49 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: CJ
That's probably my biggest concern. No matter how big a failure Obama and Democrats are, you're not going to see many non-whites changing their mind. I don't know what changes that dynamic.
It's really only the white part of our electorate that's "up for grabs" and that percentage keeps shrinking.
Had we had the same demographics we had in the 80's, Romney would have won an epic landslide. He actually got a larger percentage of white voters than Reagan when he won 49 states.
Posted by: McAdams at March 31, 2014 09:49 AM (dZ1C9)
In this day and age, i really doubt it. Especially if the guy was talking on a cellphone.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 09:50 AM (4df7R)
*spits*
Thanks for that, Ted Kennedy.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 31, 2014 09:51 AM (9PrpA)
They know what it means. It means the same as anarchist means to people in the UK.
nothing.
Posted by: testing at March 31, 2014 09:52 AM (9R4HJ)
Posted by: Future Headline at March 31, 2014 09:52 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:52 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 31, 2014 09:52 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 31, 2014 09:52 AM (RZ8pf)
That's probably my biggest concern. No matter how big a failure Obama and Democrats are, you're not going to see many non-whites changing their mind. I don't know what changes that dynamic.
It's really only the white part of our electorate that's "up for grabs" and that percentage keeps shrinking.
Had we had the same demographics we had in the 80's, Romney would have won an epic landslide. He actually got a larger percentage of white voters than Reagan when he won 49 states.
Posted by: McAdams at March 31, 2014 01:49 PM (dZ1C9)
We'll fix that with Amnesty by another name!
Posted by: Your GOP at March 31, 2014 09:52 AM (D+lxs)
Olde tymie slang is funny.
A home run is called a "dinger" because George Washington hit one off the Liberty Bell at the Polo Grounds during the American Revolution. It was the first home run ever broadcast live in slow motion on TV.
Posted by: Joey B. at March 31, 2014 09:52 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 09:53 AM (x3YFz)
Gettysburg was 1863. But you are correct that Grant was in Vicksburg at the time.And while Lee did retreat from Gettysburg the North did not follow.
http://www.civilwartraveler.com/EAST/VA/va-southside/index.html
Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 31, 2014 01:43 PM (rdiUQ)
I'm something of a Civil War buff and I've never heard or read of those expressions before; i.e., 'Lee's Retreat', 'Grant's Advance'. And while I'm no big fan of either General Lee or the Confederacy, it isn't true that Lee 'ran away' from Grant at Petersburg, the final campaign of the Civil War. Grant would continually strive to flank Lee; Lee would then move and adjust his lines to check the flanking maneuver. This went on for months until--finally--attrition through death, disease and desertion was too great and Lee could no longer hold back the Union Army. Whatever that is, it isn't 'running away'.
Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 09:53 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 31, 2014 09:53 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at March 31, 2014 01:28 PM (4df7R)<
Can-can plus trampoline equals epic win.
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 31, 2014 09:54 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 09:54 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 09:55 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 09:55 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: I can't see Russia from here at March 31, 2014 09:55 AM (ld2OA)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 31, 2014 09:56 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: ABBA earworm at March 31, 2014 09:57 AM (BAS5M)
won an epic landslide. He actually got a larger percentage of white
voters than Reagan when he won 49 states.
*spits*
Thanks for that, Ted Kennedy.
Posted by: bonhomme
Yep, and it didn't help when Reagan granted blanket amnesty. The very next election after amnesty, Hispanics rewarded Republicans by giving around 70% of their votes to Michael Dukakis. Yet there's still dumb conservatives that think this time will be different.
The Great Society programs of LBJ also didn't help, it made the inner cities baby making machines. More babies, more checks.
Posted by: McAdams at March 31, 2014 09:57 AM (dZ1C9)
It is true.
Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 09:57 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 31, 2014 09:57 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Arbalest at March 31, 2014 09:58 AM (FlRtG)
*awards free use of ampersands to Muad'dib for the remainder of the day*
Posted by: EC at March 31, 2014 09:58 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2014 09:58 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: JEM at March 31, 2014 09:58 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: joncelli at March 31, 2014 09:59 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 09:59 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 01:57 PM (oMKp3)
I know it's the Great American Pastime and everything, but I think baseball is terribly boring.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 31, 2014 09:59 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 10:00 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: French Socialists at March 31, 2014 10:00 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 10:00 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: tangonine at March 31, 2014 10:01 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Buddy's Singers at March 31, 2014 10:02 AM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Adam at March 31, 2014 10:02 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 31, 2014 10:02 AM (oMKp3)
Posted by: joncelli at March 31, 2014 01:59 PM (RD7QR)
You think THAT's bad. Check out the poor Miami Marlins!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 10:03 AM (4df7R)
It's too long to cut n paste (and I fear embarrelment), but there's a poem called "The Crack of a Bat" that can unite the French and baseball threads here.
It used to be published in the IHT every year on opening day. It's from the PoV of an American expat in Paris, missing baseball.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 31, 2014 10:03 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 31, 2014 10:04 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Aristotle and Brony Fan Club President at March 31, 2014 10:04 AM (bUmSq)
Posted by: RWC at March 31, 2014 10:05 AM (fWAjv)
Go down to the area of Appomattox Courthouse. There is a trail marked with those yellow and blue historical markers and it is called Lee's Retreat. I had never heard of it until I was actually down in the area. Area folk are rather proud of it and I nearly got killed when I jokingly called it Grant's Advance.
Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 31, 2014 10:05 AM (rdiUQ)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2014 10:05 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 31, 2014 10:06 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 10:07 AM (7ObY1)
Srsly?
Because, wow. Just wow.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 31, 2014 02:00 PM (7ObY1)
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A cellphone pic and an email with it attached to the FBI might give that woman pause. Or not.
Posted by: Soona at March 31, 2014 10:08 AM (NM86I)
http://www.civilwartraveler.com/EAST/VA/va-southside/retreat.html
Posted by: drill_thrawl at March 31, 2014 10:08 AM (rdiUQ)
Posted by: Nip Sip at March 31, 2014 02:00 PM (0FSuD)
Bullshit. Equating the Confederacy to a resistance movement of noble freedom fighters is historical revisionism at its worst. Enforcing and maintaining the institution of slavery is not the mark of a 'liberty loving' people.
It's a noble thing to honor the bravery of your ancestors. It's another thing entirely to celebrate the rotten, evil cause they fought for.
Posted by: troyriser at March 31, 2014 10:19 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: alwyr at March 31, 2014 10:37 AM (V0j3u)
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at March 31, 2014 10:40 AM (UQuFF)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at March 31, 2014 12:19 PM (m0h0I)
Not quite. Nor that the western hemisphere is on the verge of a permanent socialist majority. What we have - I think - is another example of the populace expressing their desire for peace and plenty, and not to be bothered.* Please show some competence in governing and administration, don't make a complete Charlie Foxtrot out of everything foreign and domestic (especially domestic), keep the country safe, prosperous and stop bothering me when I have to deal with the problems in my own life already.
*Rather a normal person's reaction - everyone has plenty of their own business to mind without some jackwagons in teh capital completely screwing things up and adding more for the average Joe, Jacques, or Hans to deal with.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Stay Outraged, My Friends at the Outrage Outlet at March 31, 2014 10:41 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: alwyr at March 31, 2014 11:01 AM (V0j3u)
Posted by: alwyr at March 31, 2014 11:08 AM (V0j3u)
Posted by: Dave M at March 31, 2014 11:40 AM (Vm3v/)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 31, 2014 11:41 AM (wdHk6)
Posted by: Michael at March 31, 2014 12:30 PM (smKbx)
Posted by: Michael at March 31, 2014 12:37 PM (smKbx)
Posted by: PJ at March 31, 2014 12:53 PM (ZWaLo)
Hollande wasn't elected until 2012. He has a five-year term, so if he loses the next election he will have served less time than Obama.
Posted by: Joshua at March 31, 2014 01:27 PM (oCZ4e)
Yes, but the French Senate isn't popularly elected. It's elected mostly by members of the municipal councils ... that is, the councils that just had a lot of Socialist members voted off of them. So one can expect that the Socialists will be disappointed this September, too.
More relevant to popular opinion is the European Parliament elections which will be held in May. The Socialists have been running in third place in the French opinion polls for that, behind both the UMP and the FN.
Posted by: Joshua at March 31, 2014 01:41 PM (oCZ4e)
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