March 19, 2014

Chris Christie...You're Damn Right I Expanded Medicaid!
— DrewM

Via @DraftRyan2016 we have another "Christie confronts voter at town hall" video that made him so famous in his first term.

The wrinkle in this one is that while he's debating a lefty he defends himself not by making the conservative case against government healthcare but praising how much he's expanded it already.

Sure he says he hates ObamaCare but he's pretty proud that he's taken the ObamaCare money to expand Medicaid (you know the system that is a total waste of money) and boasts that NJ's Medicaid system is the 2nd most generous in the country. So you know...Conservative! Maybe even severely.

Of course being so generous with Medicaid comes at a cost in taxes and the resulting flight from New Jersey to lower tax states (via NJ refugee @johnekdahl). Now, Chrisite has done some good on taxes in NJ but to brag that their welfare benefits are so generous and he's happily expanding them is a slap to the people who have to pay for them.

Republicans want to make some made up distinction between ObamaCare Medicaid expansion and the exchanges but conservatives shouldn't let them get away with it.

What I said in 2010 about Romney's inability to take on ObamaCare because of his entanglement with MittCare applies to Chrisite or any other GOP governor who has taken ObamaCare Medicaid money.

Even if Romney does say he opposes the individual mandate, he still has said he'd take credit for Obama's health care "accomplishment". Given his background with the issue and weird statements about the law since its passage, Romney is simply damaged goods when it comes to health care.

He might still be able to come up with a convincing narrative to explain the differences between MassCare and ObamaCare as well as his role in the former. But then the debate will be about Mitt and what he thought then vs. now and whether he can be reliable going forward. Meanwhile the focus will be off Obama and the damage done by this health care scheme.

Republicans need the issue to be a clean and clear choice...we have to nominate someone who was opposed to ObamaCare from the start. Only then will the focus stay on Obama and what he has wrought.

If ObamaCare is going to be a lead GOP issue in 2016 you can't have someone on the ticket who is compromised by it.

Posted by: DrewM at 08:39 AM | Comments (424)
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1 The leader of the Vichy Republicans, Governor Division.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 08:37 AM (7ObY1)

2 I dont much care for this Christie fellow.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 08:38 AM (oMKp3)

3 Notfirst?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 19, 2014 08:38 AM (naUcP)

4 Krispie Kreme; living down to my lowest expectations.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 19, 2014 08:38 AM (Hx5uv)

5 The Fat man is not a conservative, has never been a conservative, and is really a Democrat with an R after his name.  And the RNC wants to run him in 2016.  And they have the full backing of the MFM until they push Scankles out the door.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 19, 2014 08:39 AM (T2V/1)

6 There we are.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 19, 2014 08:40 AM (naUcP)

7 That Medicaid money shrinks every year.  It's a Faustian deal, and I shake my head at any pol who accepts expansion.


Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 08:41 AM (GQ8sn)

8 He really sounded weak.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 08:41 AM (IXrOn)

9 Hey, I just heard that there's a missing airliner. Top. Men. 

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 19, 2014 08:41 AM (Dwehj)

10 I'd call him a RINO except that he's actually a genuine Republican in name, instinct and policy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 08:42 AM (8ZskC)

11 While I think state-level welfare is generally a bad idea and a waste of money at best... at least it has the benefit of not being unconstitutional. If individual states want to do different, stupid, experimental stuff like the Oregon Health Plan or Michigan's "lets destroy business" scheme, ok. That's how America was always supposed to work.
At some level I think a minimum amount of public assistance is necessary and inevitable, but the further it gets from the people - moving away from the neighborhood or town to county, state, etc - the worse and more wasteful it gets.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 08:42 AM (zfY+H)

12 Corgi stampede a'coming. Others have been summoned.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 19, 2014 08:42 AM (cB3Ay)

13 The stupid is strong in this one.

Posted by: Jersey Wrong at March 19, 2014 08:42 AM (noUEa)

14 it seems to me that republicans who say they want to "fix and replace" Obamacare are all inadvertently making an argument for single payer

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 08:42 AM (zOTsN)

15 If ObamaCare is going to be a lead GOP issue in 2016 you can't have someone on the ticket who is compromised by it. Think again.

Posted by: Republican Party at March 19, 2014 08:43 AM (i7MRg)

16 We're going to need a bigger boat!

Posted by: Martin Brody at March 19, 2014 08:43 AM (Kkt/i)

17 Krispy Kreme/Jeb Bush 2016! I like the sound of that! All the GOP establishment goodness with none of the socon filling!

Posted by: rightwingva at March 19, 2014 08:43 AM (kCnae)

18 I think Christie missed his moment. Presidential windows aren't open forever. His time was 2012. Of course, I never thought Mitt could win a GOP primary, so what do I know. I think Christie is going to have a much harder time in 2016 than his people anticipate.

Posted by: SH at March 19, 2014 08:43 AM (gmeXX)

19 10 I'd call him a RINO except that he's actually a genuine Republican in name, instinct and policy. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 12:42 PM (8ZskC) How right you are. He is indeed exactly what the GOPe is today, and exactly why I am no longer a member of the GOPe.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 08:43 AM (7ObY1)

20 10 I'd call him a RINO except that he's actually a genuine Republican in name, instinct and policy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 12:42 PM (8ZskC)



He's not a RINO, he's a DIABLO.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 19, 2014 08:43 AM (T2V/1)

21

That Medicaid money shrinks every year. It's a Faustian deal, and I shake my head at any pol who accepts expansion.

 

I'll pay for 100,000 cops.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at March 19, 2014 08:43 AM (JtwS4)

22 So, what you're saying is that Christie has now locked up the GOP nomination as the "next guy" in line. Because if there is some guy who is compromised in running against ObamaCare he's going to be picked. Is the 2016 GOP nominee even going to talk about repealing ObamaCare? Or will we be firmly in "fix instead of nix" territory by then?

Posted by: gwelf at March 19, 2014 08:43 AM (+7Usq)

23 If ObamaCare is going to be a lead GOP issue in 2016 you can't have someone on the ticket who is compromised by it. Think again. Posted by: Republican Party gosh like Romney?

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 08:44 AM (zOTsN)

24 Can a guy his size ever be expected to reach all the way across the aisle?

Posted by: John McCain (R) Alzheimers at March 19, 2014 08:44 AM (8ZskC)

25 Remember though, we have to elect him first, then we can change him. Or something.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 19, 2014 08:45 AM (gBnkX)

26
This just in.   It appears traffic is being blocked on New Jersey's busiest freeway bridge.   Initial reports indicate a large, white commercial aircraft has been landed on the bridge and eyewitnesses report seeing Governor Chris Christie climbing down the cockpit ladder.

Posted by: MSNC News at March 19, 2014 08:45 AM (nELVU)

27 Fuck the Fat Bastard Rino and all the "electability" squishes who support fucking rinos.

Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2014 08:45 AM (xWW96)

28 Is the missing plane in this thread? Or did Krispy eat it?

Posted by: votermom at March 19, 2014 08:45 AM (GSIDW)

29 But he's only five points behind Hillary!

Posted by: blaster at March 19, 2014 08:45 AM (4+AaH)

30 Cicero,
That's why Steyn calls 'em DIABLOs: Democrats in all but label only

Posted by: Jersey Wrong at March 19, 2014 08:45 AM (noUEa)

31 I'm done wasting my time talking about homos and shitty Republicans.

Posted by: soothsayer at March 19, 2014 08:45 AM (QuTMi)

32 See, that's the beauty part about Medicaid.  It's paid for by the taxpayers in all the other states, not by us.  Yippee!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 08:45 AM (lHb9q)

33 Sidney Greenstreet was a much better Fat Man


who's playing Little Boy  ???????????????????

Posted by: Jules ( on a long downhill slide ) at March 19, 2014 08:46 AM (omBWL)

34 Ahhhh..... Compassionate Conservatism??? Rove should be happy....

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 19, 2014 08:46 AM (84gbM)

35 If, by Medicare, you mean his underwear elastic .

Posted by: --- at March 19, 2014 08:46 AM (MMC8r)

36

Chris Christie is a weak candidate that will not be supported by conservatives.

 

Personally? I'd give him the time of day, but that's about it.

Posted by: Gmac at March 19, 2014 08:46 AM (4pjhs)

37 "I'd call him a RINO except that he's actually a genuine Republican in name, instinct and policy."
I've long been confused by the "RINO" title, as if somehow people think the REpublican Party stood for conservative ideals except for brief, shining moments in time. Its always been like the "RINOs". Guys like Ronald Reagan were Republican in name only, by rejecting the usual GOP dogma and ideas.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 08:46 AM (zfY+H)

38 If ObamaCare is going to be a lead GOP issue in 2016 you can't have someone on the ticket who is compromised by it. --- But it's his turn! Unless Jeb wants it instead...

Posted by: GOP Establishment at March 19, 2014 08:47 AM (APuJ7)

39 "savings realized by cost shifting to federal dollars." Wow, this is what NJ people think? This country is doomed.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 19, 2014 08:47 AM (HDwDg)

40 But . . . but . . . he yells at liberals and makes great soundbites. Clearly he is a leader! Policies schmolicies.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at March 19, 2014 08:47 AM (Ud5vq)

41 They had a better candidate there, but Christie ate him.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 19, 2014 08:47 AM (naUcP)

42 18 I think Christie missed his moment. Presidential windows aren't open forever. His time was 2012.

Of course, I never thought Mitt could win a GOP primary, so what do I know.

Honestly I never thought Obama would win in 2008. I loathed him as soon as he opened his mouth. Thought he was painfully obviously under qualified. So I certainly know nothing.

Posted by: Long Island at March 19, 2014 08:47 AM (7Nabg)

43 Will somebody please rid me of this Fat RINO Fuck?

Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPhone at March 19, 2014 08:47 AM (KwjH1)

44 Do my lies make my ass look big?

XOX
Chris

Posted by: Bruce at March 19, 2014 08:47 AM (igJW1)

45 Ummm. Did you move this over from the sidebar or did I drop acid and forget that I did again? Don't the Federal matching funds for the Medicaid expansion go away in a few years? That's one Obamacare deadline I expect will be met.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 19, 2014 08:47 AM (VtjlW)

46 25 Remember though, we have to elect him first, then we can change him. Or something. Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 19, 2014 12:45 PM (gBnkX) Hmmm..... sooooo.... Its like a Woman picking a boy friend???

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 19, 2014 08:47 AM (84gbM)

47 Honestly, there's a lot to like about Christie, and he's probably the only sort of Republican that can win in New Jersey these days. He crushed the school unions, he did some good stuff. He's just what a Northeast US Republican is like. That's the kind you get up there.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 08:48 AM (zfY+H)

48 The only way he could recover from this - maybe - is that: 1) there are so many more unemployed, underemployed and/or poorer due to obama's policies, so more had to go on state funded care. Conservative policies should reverse this over time. 2) repeal obamacare; and do the "common sense" thing by covering the handful of people in medicaid that were not covered in the beginning. It wasn't 40 million. Only 15m or so, and do not include illegals. And, cut spending (anywhere) to be able to pay for all of this. Walker proves this can be done. I don't believe for one minute Christie would try to repeal. The only one I see, so far, that is maniacal about repeal is Cruz.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 08:48 AM (IXrOn)

49 Let's get over the fat boy love. Christie has NO chance of getting the nomination of the Republican party. NONE. See NRA opposition.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 19, 2014 08:48 AM (0FSuD)

50 Has he lost a lot of weight since his gastric bypass? He still looks pretty plump.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 08:48 AM (oMKp3)

51 42  Of course, I never thought Mitt could win a GOP primary, so what do I know.

Honestly I never thought Obama would win in 2008. I loathed him as soon as he opened his mouth. Thought he was painfully obviously under qualified. So I certainly know nothing.

Posted by: Long Island at March 19, 2014 12:47 PM (7Nabg)


Romney won it because of two things, a weak field and too many candidates splitting the "not Romney" vote.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 19, 2014 08:48 AM (T2V/1)

52

Did you order the Code Red, Gov. Christie?!

Christie:  You're damn right I did!!!!!

Posted by: WisRich at March 19, 2014 08:48 AM (hdpay)

53 Christie ate the Malaysian plane.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2014 08:48 AM (olDqf)

54 When Chris hugged me in that photo op he smelled like sardines.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 19, 2014 08:48 AM (Dwehj)

55 WHAT ABOUT SYRIA!!!?????!?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: chelsea danger at March 19, 2014 08:49 AM (KfDDN)

56 The Persuadables love combative fat men.

Posted by: Karl Rove at March 19, 2014 08:49 AM (8ZskC)

57 "Honestly I never thought Obama would win in 2008. I loathed him as soon as he opened his mouth. Thought he was painfully obviously under qualified. So I certainly know nothing."
Four years earlier he'd have been creamed in the primaries. The political landscape has changed so radically and violently none of the old patterns or predictors are worth anything any more.
Having a horrible old man even his own party despised as his opponent probably helped Obama a bit, but at that point in history, the Republican just wasn't going to win anyway.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 08:49 AM (zfY+H)

58 Honestly, there's a lot to like about Christie, and he's probably the only sort of Republican that can win in New Jersey these days. OK, fine, run him in NJ. Quit trying to foist him off on the rest of us as a national candidate.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 19, 2014 08:49 AM (naUcP)

59 Bring on the fat man 'cause I ain't  no ways tarrred...  

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 19, 2014 08:50 AM (GjPnA)

60 Snide, nasal-toned hollow-head post regarding disloyalty to the GoP brand in 3... 2... 1...

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at March 19, 2014 08:50 AM (9LuAk)

61

If ObamaCare is going to be a lead GOP issue in 2016 you can't have someone on the ticket who is compromised by it.

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:39 PM


Serious you guys, the most important thing is that we have an electable candidate (that uses my political consulting firm).


¡Christie/Bush 2016!

Posted by: Karl Rover at March 19, 2014 08:50 AM (o3MSL)

62 I don't see a problem here.

Posted by: Thomas Sowell [/i] [/b] at March 19, 2014 08:50 AM (5ikDv)

63 You're damn right I'm about expanding entitlement programs. I'm only doing what the GOP did the last time they had control. But this time, it'll be different. Swearsies!

Posted by: Kris Krispy at March 19, 2014 08:50 AM (gBnkX)

64 47 Honestly, there's a lot to like about Christie, and he's probably the only sort of Republican that can win in New Jersey these days. He crushed the school unions, he did some good stuff. He's just what a Northeast US Republican is like. That's the kind you get up there. Did he actually crush the teachers unions, or did he just yell at them? Honestly don't know.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 08:50 AM (oMKp3)

65 We have to expand the government to save it.

Posted by: The Gee Oh Pee at March 19, 2014 08:51 AM (gBnkX)

66

Does Fat Bastard Rino remind anyone else of this guy? Cause every time I see him I think of this guy.........

 

http://tinyurl.com/2c72rh

Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2014 08:51 AM (xWW96)

67 Don't the Federal matching funds for the Medicaid expansion go away in a few years? That's one Obamacare deadline I expect will be met.


Yes.  Every passing year, the fed funds get smaller and the state is expected to make up the difference.  States that are already having trouble with managing money are fucked in the long term if they do this.

Every gov that took this deal saw the $$$$ in their eyes, but forgot to read the fine print.

Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 08:51 AM (GQ8sn)

68 That sloshing sound you hear does not necessarily indicate that Christie is a squish.

Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2014 08:51 AM (UzPAd)

69 Honestly, there's a lot to like about Christie, and he's probably the only sort of Republican that can win in New Jersey these days. He crushed the school unions, he did some good stuff. He's just what a Northeast US Republican is like. That's the kind you get up there. Posted by: Christopher Taylor how did he "crush" the unions? property taxes are up. NOTHING has changed he talks the talk but he doesn't walk the walk

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 08:51 AM (zOTsN)

70 50 Has he lost a lot of weight since his gastric bypass? He still looks pretty plump.

Yes his gastric bypass didn't seem to take.

Posted by: Long Island at March 19, 2014 08:51 AM (7Nabg)

71 Romney won the primaries because he tore his R opponents apart.  What he did to Newt in Florida was EPIC


in the general election, he STFU-- except for vague babbling about 'my five-point plan'.  Five points my ass

Posted by: Jules ( on a long downhill slide ) at March 19, 2014 08:51 AM (omBWL)

72 Serious you guys, the most important thing is that we have an electable candidate (that uses my political consulting firm).


¡Christie/Bush 2016!

Posted by: Karl Rover at March 19, 2014 12:50 PM (o3MSL)


Holy crap. 


Hollowpoint is Karl Rove. O.o  It all makes sense now.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at March 19, 2014 08:51 AM (9LuAk)

73
CHRIS FARLEY FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at March 19, 2014 08:51 AM (nELVU)

74 But, but, blub, we N E E D a candidate to attract all the people who would never vote for a Republican! Duh, it's only logical.

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 08:52 AM (1/4XQ)

75 "OK, fine, run him in NJ. Quit trying to foist him off on the rest of us as a national candidate."
Well yeah, that's how I see it. I think he's a terrible candidate for presidency, and don't care for him as a politician. I just wanted to sound a bit of balance, because commenters seem to run from one end of the teeter totter to the other like they're on fire.
Christie kicks Teacher's union in the mangerines: YAAAYY CHRISTIE ROCKS!
Christie hugs Obama: BOOO CHRISTIE IS EVIL!!!
No reason he can't be both. He's a poor choice for a presidential candidate and no real friend of conservatives, but he's done some good stuff, too.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 08:52 AM (zfY+H)

76
"If ObamaCare is going to be a lead GOP issue in 2016 you can't have someone on the ticket who is compromised by it. "





Watch me pull a rabbit out of this hat. Presto!

Posted by: The Romney 2016 Trial Balloon


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2014 08:52 AM (kdS6q)

77 I'm looking for someone who is more of a Silent Cal type like Scott Walker.

Posted by: SH at March 19, 2014 08:52 AM (gmeXX)

78 you know who crushed the teachers unions and balanced a budget and is working on reducing taxes Scott Walker Christy has done none of those things

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 08:52 AM (zOTsN)

79 65 We have to expand the government to save it. Posted by: The Gee Oh Pee at March 19, 2014 12:51 PM (gBnkX) You mean like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXH_12QWWg8

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2014 08:52 AM (olDqf)

80 Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 12:51 PM (GQ8sn) But the funds drying up??? Not a problem! I won't be in this office then!

Posted by: Typical Politician at March 19, 2014 08:52 AM (84gbM)

81 Krispy Kreosote!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (olDqf)

82

If ObamaCare is going to be a lead GOP issue in 2016 you can't have someone on the ticket who is compromised by it.

 

 

But it worked so well in 2012!

 

We need to compromise our candidates with the democrats.  Look at how all the democrats flocked to the GOP banner in 2012.  That was winning!

 

Posted by: Rove, Boehner, and McConnell at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (D+lxs)

83 But the funds drying up???

Not a problem! I won't be in this office then!

Posted by: Typical Politician at March 19, 2014 12:52 PM (84gbM)



Look awesome now. 



Fuck everyone else in the future.





Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (GQ8sn)

84 Has he lost a lot of weight since his gastric bypass? He still looks pretty plump.


Can donuts be administered intravenously?  That could explain it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (8ZskC)

85 Romney only won the nomination because of the three things. 1) He had the "next guy in line" thing going for him. 2) He was rich and good at fundraising and 3) Uh.... dang it .. cheese and crackers ... I've forgotten the third thing.

Posted by: Rick Perry at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (ZPrif)

86 Just once, I'd like to hear someone on "our" side say something about a smaller, less expensive and less intrusive government. And how he or she has done something concrete to make that happen. But, I suppose since we're talking about pols talking, they automatically default to government as the solution to everything. We are so terribly screwed...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (0HooB)

87 Christopher Taylor what has he done to reign in the teacher unions be specific

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (zOTsN)

88 Christie has NO chance of getting the nomination of the Republican party. NONE. See NRA opposition. And? We fail to see the problem. But send us money anyways.

Posted by: The GOPe Elite at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (7ObY1)

89 Remember though, we have to elect him first, then we can change him.
Do what??

Posted by: Depends at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (Ua6T/)

90 Every gov that took this deal saw the $$$$ in their eyes, but forgot to read the fine print. Rick Perry reads fine print.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 19, 2014 08:53 AM (cB3Ay)

91 Gotta admin, tho...that fat bastard sure helped push my scrawny ass over the top in '12. Heh. 

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 19, 2014 08:54 AM (Dwehj)

92 81 Krispy Kreosote! --- Someone give him a wafer-thin mint.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 08:54 AM (APuJ7)

93 The Fat Man hasn't done shit but talk and eat.  NJ is still on the way to bankruptcy, the teacher's unions are still raising hell in NJ, and everything in NJ is still screwed up.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 19, 2014 08:54 AM (T2V/1)

94 Don't the Federal matching funds for the Medicaid expansion go away in a few years? That's one Obamacare deadline I expect will be met. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 19, 2014 12:47 PM (VtjlW) IIRC, the matching funds taper down to 90% coverage or somesuch. But I see two problems with that. 1) It'll probably get cut again because at some point math wins. 2) 10% of billions is still a metric shit ton of money. Let's presume that expansion costs my state $1billion/year. That means as it tapers down, even if it stays at 90% forever, my state just took on 100 million in liabilities. Even with a state that basically burns money via government (spending 28bil/year) that is not an insubstantial part of the budget. IIRC, our state has a balanced budget rule as well, so this would totally fuck that up.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 19, 2014 08:54 AM (HDwDg)

95 Wow, this is what NJ people think? There is no group think as to what NJ people think. Yes, the state is a blue state but depending upon where you are there are quite a few conservatives. What you get is people who bothered to show up at a town hall meeting.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 08:54 AM (XyM/Y)

96 Every gov that took this deal saw the $$$$ in their eyes, but forgot to read the fine print.



Rick Perry reads fine print.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 19, 2014 12:53 PM (cB3Ay)



Jan Brewer does not.



Oh, and is she retiring too?  How about that...



Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 08:54 AM (GQ8sn)

97 In 2012 Romney won the independents and Republican voters and yet still somehow lost even though registered Democrats were fewer than Rebpulicans... curious, that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 08:54 AM (zfY+H)

98 78 you know who crushed the teachers unions and balanced a budget and is working on reducing taxes Scott Walker It's official now. Our taxes are reduced.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 08:55 AM (oMKp3)

99 Look awesome now. Fuck everyone else in the future. Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 12:53 PM (GQ8sn) Yup.... brought to you by Keynes...

Posted by: Federal Reserve Bank at March 19, 2014 08:55 AM (84gbM)

100 He's a poor choice for a presidential candidate and no real friend of conservatives, but he's done some good stuff, too.

But if we send enough negative waves his way he won't be the candidate.  So we are mind-waving him away.  Go away!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 19, 2014 08:55 AM (P7Wsr)

101 DROOOOOO! YOU TEATARD LOSER! Blue Jersey just reelected him by a wide margin! Wider than his office chair! What other Pub can draw such a diverse voter base? He's conservative enough! SOCON WINGNUTS, STOP YOUR DERPTASTSIC OPPOSITION!

Posted by: TruSquish Pussy at March 19, 2014 08:55 AM (AzTx0)

102 Compassionate Conservatism??? yeech.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 19, 2014 08:55 AM (xKLu4)

103 You have to nominate him to find out what's in him.  Swearsies.

Posted by: Stretch Pelosi at March 19, 2014 08:56 AM (Kkt/i)

104 From rinky-dink stuff like banning e-cigs to banning direct sales of Tesla 'cars' to big stuff like Medicaid, he loves him some corporate collusion and arbitrary exercise state power.

The man is a Statist through and through.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 19, 2014 08:56 AM (ligos)

105 Hey, I pointed at Obama that one time, guys. Remember? I POINTED AT HIM!

Posted by: Jan Brewer at March 19, 2014 08:56 AM (7ObY1)

106 What exactly are we supposed to love about Christy? I forgot or something.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 08:56 AM (A98Xu)

107 I thought Mitt Romney had a 150 page report, not a 5 point plan. Rick Perry had it right, give it to the public in three parts. Of course it helps to remember the third item of the list.

Posted by: SH at March 19, 2014 08:56 AM (gmeXX)

108 @77 Speaking of Silent Cal... you're welcome.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/dnjwky

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 08:56 AM (1/4XQ)

109 Every gov that took this deal saw the $$$$ in their eyes, but forgot to read the fine print.

Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 12:51 PM (GQ8sn)



Strangely enough, the decrease of federal funds and transition to total state funding is, and was, well-known, one of the few parts of the ACA that was actually read.  Our local idiot McAuliffe is, of course, hell-bent of signing VA up for this "feature" of ACA. 



Thanks RNC for your severely conservative support for Cuccinelli.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2014 08:56 AM (o3MSL)

110 How many feet of runway does a fully-laden NJ governor require?

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 19, 2014 08:56 AM (FrfNj)

111 My thought is that the GOP will end up nominating the worst possible person. Someone like Connie Rice (is she still a Republican?) and try to force that person down our throat.

If they can find  black-hispanic Muslim lesbian who is uber liberal on social issues and favors open immigration, that's who the GOP will nominate.

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at March 19, 2014 08:57 AM (25HWz)

112 90 Every gov that took this deal saw the $$$$ in their eyes, but forgot to read the fine print. Rick Perry reads fine print. Posted by: rickb223 at March 19, 2014 12:53 PM (cB3Ay) Is that why he wears glasses now??? eye strain from reading all the fine Print? Would make a GREAT snarky commercial....

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 19, 2014 08:57 AM (84gbM)

113 98 78 you know who crushed the teachers unions and balanced a budget and is working on reducing taxes Scott Walker It's official now. Our taxes are reduced. Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 12:55 PM (oMKp3) And not a Krispy in sight.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 19, 2014 08:57 AM (xKLu4)

114 the only concrete thing Christie did was cut funding for planned parenthood he has not reduced taxes he has not reduced spending he has not balanced the budget he has not "crushed" the teachers unions what has he done be specific I lived in NJ for 15 years he talks the talk but does not walk the walk

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 08:57 AM (zOTsN)

115 Scott Walker will be our nominee. Let's fight over the VP position.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 19, 2014 08:57 AM (0FSuD)

116 speaking of medicaid and Obamacare ..
cbo report on Drudge ht costanza

cbo
 Elmendorf said medicaid, obamacare , expansion of health subsidized  services and social  security will be much more expensive relative to GDP.
and  we  should now  let the public know.. etc.

well isn't this information a little late?
weren't we saying this for 4 years? and the new taxes and cuts to pay for it all?

Posted by: willow at March 19, 2014 08:57 AM (nqBYe)

117 We'll never win the libertine vote if this keeps up. Sigh.

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at March 19, 2014 08:57 AM (Dwehj)

118 Romney only won the nomination because of the three things. 1) He had the "next guy in line" thing going for him. 2) He was rich and good at fundraising and 3) Uh.... dang it .. cheese and crackers ... I've forgotten the third thing. Posted by: Rick Perry at March 19, 2014 12:53 PM (ZPrif) Okay, that right there is funny.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 19, 2014 08:58 AM (VtjlW)

119 Doesn't Christie want to tax e-cigs too? What's up with that?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 08:58 AM (oMKp3)

120 How many feet of runway does a fully-laden NJ governor require?

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 19, 2014 12:56 PM (FrfNj)


----


All of them.


.... or..... YES.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 19, 2014 08:58 AM (nELVU)

121 Compassionate Conservatism???

yeech.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 19, 2014 12:55 PM (xKLu4)


Someone in an earlier thread coined the "Compassionate Tyranny" phrase which seems to capture the GOPe Christie types pretty well.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2014 08:58 AM (o3MSL)

122 I think it's prudent to wait to see whom our GOP leaders think can win, regardless of their beliefs. You know, like we've been doing with our last candidates.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 08:58 AM (A98Xu)

123 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 19, 2014 12:55 PM (xKLu4)

+1

Posted by: sweet...ish at March 19, 2014 08:58 AM (bj+Nc)

124 How come Christie never speaks of belt tightening?

Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at March 19, 2014 08:58 AM (aDwsi)

125 Every gov that took this deal saw the $$$$ in their eyes, but forgot to read the fine print --- No, every gov did what politicians always do, kick the can down the road and make it someone else's problem.

Posted by: SH at March 19, 2014 08:58 AM (gmeXX)

126 110 How many feet of runway does a fully-laden NJ governor require? Posted by: Waterhouse at March 19, 2014 12:56 PM (FrfNj) Too fuckin' much...

Posted by: B-36J at March 19, 2014 08:58 AM (xKLu4)

127 He's done some good things. Like, he made a teacher cry once. He keeps the pizza industry in the black. Etc.

Posted by: Bipolar at March 19, 2014 08:59 AM (AzTx0)

128

But But But he got 50% of the Hispanic vote!!!!!

 

Nevermind that if Mitt Romney had gotten 50% (hell even 70%) the JEF would still have won.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2014 08:59 AM (LI48c)

129 Romney only won the nomination because of the three things. 1) He had the "next guy in line" thing going for him. 2) He was rich and good at fundraising and 3) Uh.... dang it .. cheese and crackers ... I've forgotten the third thing. Posted by: Rick Perry at March 19, 2014 12:53 PM (ZPrif) How about also because all the rest of the candidates sucked worse.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2014 08:59 AM (nzKvP)

130 119 Doesn't Christie want to tax e-cigs too? What's up with that?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 12:58 PM (oMKp3)


I posted a link to an article about that this morning on the news thread.  Damn near every State is jumping on that bandwagon because they are scared to death they will lose some tax revenue.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 19, 2014 08:59 AM (T2V/1)

131

How many feet of runway does a fully-laden NJ governor require?

 

An African RINO or a European RINO?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 19, 2014 08:59 AM (JtwS4)

132 Leave the Medicare, I'll take the cannoli.

Posted by: Governor Donuts at March 19, 2014 08:59 AM (JBggj)

133 Christie is a gun grabber. He has NO chance of getting the nomination, despite what the MSM and the NY Slime want to sell you. NONE. Let me say that again, NONE.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 19, 2014 08:59 AM (0FSuD)

134 on an entirely inrelared story, if michelle is travelling without the media and with her mom and brats that is fne, and she can pay for it too.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 19, 2014 08:59 AM (rDidD)

135 You know what's wierd is that the nomination process and convention is supposed to be the members of a political party choosing who they want as the candidate, like a vote in a classroom. But the system is so fixed now that its obvious the party leadership has their choice and screw the membership.
It used to be more that way back in the smoke-filled-room days, but for a while it was more just the voters, or we'd have never seen Reagan get the nomination. It seems the pendulum has swung back to smoke filled rooms again.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 08:59 AM (zfY+H)

136 It's difficult to even try to call Chris Christie Democrat Lite

Posted by: phreshone at March 19, 2014 09:00 AM (Q6pxP)

137 I get at least one letter a week from Rinse Pubus wanting money. Fucking asshole can pound sand.

Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2014 09:00 AM (xWW96)

138 You have to nominate him to find out what's in him. I'm guessing it was the lemon custard filling today.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 19, 2014 09:00 AM (naUcP)

139 119 Doesn't Christie want to tax e-cigs too? What's up with that?

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 12:58 PM (oMKp3)

 

Seems like a statist impulse to me.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2014 09:00 AM (DrWcr)

140 Why do we still have NASA?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 09:00 AM (A98Xu)

141 130 119 Doesn't Christie want to tax e-cigs too? What's up with that? Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 12:58 PM (oMKp3) See: Law of Diminishing Returns

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 19, 2014 09:01 AM (xKLu4)

142 131 How many feet of runway does a fully-laden NJ governor require? An African RINO ora European RINO? Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 19, 2014 12:59 PM (JtwS4) So.... Colin Powell, or Chris Christy?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 19, 2014 09:01 AM (84gbM)

143 Someone like Connie Rice (is she still a Republican?) ---- I'm certainly not advocating for her, but assuming she won, I don't think this would be the worst thing because I think she would defer to Congress on domestic issues. And I have come to the conclusion that if real change is going to happen, it must come from the legislative side.

Posted by: SH at March 19, 2014 09:01 AM (gmeXX)

144 134 on an entirely inrelared story, if michelle is travelling without the media and with her mom and brats that is fne, and she can pay for it too. --- Would it be bad to hope she finds the missing plane?

Posted by: votermom at March 19, 2014 09:01 AM (GSIDW)

145 The missing 777 shadowed Christie and landed at Newark according to some General!!!

Posted by: Long Island at March 19, 2014 09:01 AM (7Nabg)

146 Why do we still have NASA?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 01:00 PM (A98Xu)



Because muslims won't feel better about themselves all on their own.



Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 09:01 AM (GQ8sn)

147 Romney only won the nomination because of the three things.

1) He had the "next guy in line" thing going for him.
2) He was rich and good at fundraising
and
3) Uh.... dang it .. cheese and crackers ... I've forgotten the third thing.

You seriously can't come up with a good list for Romney?

1.  Self-made man.
2.  Dual-program JD AND MBA simultaneously with a stellar GPA
3.  Genuinely good guy in his personal life
4.  His family is not a mess unlike so many other politicians
5.  Amazing at turning around failing companies
6.  Elected Governor and did well in office
7.  Clear thinker who recognized political reality in the face of mockery

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:01 AM (P7Wsr)

148 How many feet of runway does a fully-laden NJ governor require? An African RINO ora European RINO? Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 19, 2014 12:59 PM (JtwS4) Nooooooooooooooo. *stamps wee feets* Drat your faster typing! Drat you to heck! *stamps wee feets more*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 19, 2014 09:01 AM (VtjlW)

149 Doesn't Christie want to tax e-cigs too? What's up with that? Posted by: grammie ---------------- Revenues Gram, revenues. Bonus : Smug self-righteousness for saving people from themselves, or something..

Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at March 19, 2014 09:01 AM (aDwsi)

150 140Why do we still have NASA?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 01:00 PM (A98Xu)

 

 

 

 

Part of da Zero's Mooselimb outreach program.

Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2014 09:02 AM (xWW96)

151 Why do we still have NASA? Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 01:00 PM (A98Xu) Because one day, and probably sooner than later, Russia is going to deny us a ride to the space station.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2014 09:02 AM (nzKvP)

152 I am always confused when people say the GOP's candidates sucked in 2012. Look at what the Democrats offered: an incompetent, proven failure with a horrible economy who ran a campaign attacking Americans at every turn and oversaw a ghastly disaster of murdered American diplomats without lifting a finger to help them, then blamed an American for a video.
The REPUBLICAN candidates sucked? Are you kidding, compared to Obama they looked like Reagan's more talented, well-spoken brothers.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 09:02 AM (zfY+H)

153 Why do we still have NASA?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 01:00 PM (A98Xu)


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Funny you should ask.   Apparently.... to promote social justice and income equality.



http://tinyurl.com/q44zkpr

Posted by: fixerupper at March 19, 2014 09:03 AM (nELVU)

154 Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at March 19, 2014 01:01 PM (aDwsi) I do find it hilarious that the market asserted itself and found a way to bypass the cigarette tax (well a fairly successful one, there were other ways) and rather than learn from that people are saying "quickly, expand the tax!"

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 19, 2014 09:03 AM (HDwDg)

155 uh ... dang it ... cheese and crackers ... somebody needs to 1) lighten up 2) get a sense of humor and 3) uh ... dang it ... forgot the third thing.

Posted by: Rick Perry at March 19, 2014 09:03 AM (ZPrif)

156 Hey let's stop ragging on NJ. I am stuck here and not so happy about it and do not need to be reminded about it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2014 09:03 AM (nzKvP)

157 134 on an entirely inrelared story, if michelle is travelling without the media and with her mom and brats that is fne, and she can pay for it too. Posted by: yankeefifth at March 19, 2014 12:59 PM (rDidD) I find that weird, she takes them to Vail and Aspen and Spain. I guess going to a country with political prisoners might expose her to some unpleasant demonstrations?

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 19, 2014 09:03 AM (0FSuD)

158 Posted by: fixerupper at March 19, 2014 01:03 PM (nELVU) don't forget to monitor global Warming!

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (84gbM)

159 Ohhhhhh...I can't stand that Fat Yankee Bastard. I wish he would shut his pie hole and go away...and take Mitt, Johnny Mac, All the BUSHES, and Karl Rove's ass with him. Dr. Ben for Preezy baby!!!!!

Posted by: IrishEd at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (D0NZx)

160 @147 Please tell me you knew Mitt's dad was an auto exec/career politician. Please.

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (1/4XQ)

161 Also, I recognize this was a riff on Rick Perry's "I forgot the third thing" gaffe.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (P7Wsr)

162 Cigarettes have long been a contradiction from the government. On one hand they try to destroy the industry and eliminate smoking, and on the other they need the tax revenues.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (zfY+H)

163 Christie too big to fail expansions

Posted by: panzernashorn at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (/vO0r)

164 OT:

Speaking of blowhards,  Holder is going after Toyota with criminal charges, and a  $1.2 billion dollar fine. 

Because when it comes to criminals,   our U.S. Attorneys  have no one to fear more than Toyota Corp.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (BeSEI)

165 On a serious note, I would like to hear Christie's actual governing accomplishments in NJ.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (ZPrif)

166 Mitt's failure in 2012 was his inability to attack and neutralize the media. If he'd managed to win he would have been a good Pres.

Posted by: votermom at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (GSIDW)

167 Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at March 19, 2014 01:01 PM (aDwsi)

Taxing e-cigs is the first step toward taxing you for the air you breathe!  They're just working out the technical details, waivers, and fees tax structure.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2014 09:04 AM (o3MSL)

168 I guess going to a country with political prisoners might expose her to some unpleasant demonstrations? Posted by: Nip Sip at March 19, 2014 01:03 PM (0FSuD) If you have not noticed Tinanahmen square was like 20+ years ago. The Chicoms and Soviets are on the march back

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2014 09:05 AM (nzKvP)

169 I posted a link to an article about that this morning on the news thread. Damn near every State is jumping on that bandwagon because they are scared to death they will lose some tax revenue. Maybe if they hadn't demonized tobacco so much & jacked the prices up higher than a cat's back.....

Posted by: rickb223 at March 19, 2014 09:05 AM (cB3Ay)

170 Let's call this pile of taxpayer money - your money - ObamaCare funds. Let's call that pile of taxpayer money - again, your money - Medicaid funds.

I'll direct funds into whatever pile you want. 99:1 ObamaCare? 75:25 Medicaid? 50:50? I don't ckufin' care. Just keep my donut fund flowing and my Springsteen Suite available. And keep writing those checks because the best government you can buy ain't cheap.

Posted by: Chris Christie, Super Republican at March 19, 2014 09:05 AM (1CroS)

171 Martinez for VP. We could use NMs votes

Posted by: blaster at March 19, 2014 09:05 AM (4+AaH)

172 Because one day, and probably sooner than later, Russia is going to deny us a ride to the space station.

I'm good with that. The $70 million per trip could better be spent on more free shit handouts.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 19, 2014 09:05 AM (Dwehj)

173 Christie is a gun grabber. He has NO chance of getting the nomination, despite what the MSM and the NY Slime want to sell you.

NONE. Let me say that again, NONE.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 19, 2014 12:59 PM (0FSuD)

 

We know, but Christie has a purpose and he serves it well.  Compared to him, I'm downright severe.

Posted by: THE Jeb Bush, Charming, Dashing and Handsome as Ever at March 19, 2014 09:05 AM (O66NZ)

174 149 Doesn't Christie want to tax e-cigs too? What's up with that?

Posted by: grammie
----------------

Revenues Gram, revenues.

Bonus : Smug self-righteousness for saving people from themselves, or something..

Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at March 19, 2014 01:01 PM (aDwsi)

 

 

People will stop going to the brick-and-mortar stores in favor of online ordering.  Then the feds will likely step in and ban shipping ecigs, like they did with regular smokes.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2014 09:05 AM (DrWcr)

175 Do you think this crispy dude could find our missing, lost or misplaced plane?

Posted by: Maylasian Government at March 19, 2014 09:05 AM (EYp+q)

176 I will not vote for him in the general, if it comes down to that. I'll either write in someone, or go give the Libertarians some help in their usual 1% showing.
 
It wouldn't be the first time, either.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 19, 2014 09:05 AM (wNF3N)

177 168 Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at March 19, 2014 01:01 PM (aDwsi) Taxing e-cigs is the first step toward taxing you for the air you breathe! They're just working out the technical details, waivers, and fees tax structure. --- We at the Crimson Corporation see no problem with that.

Posted by: The Crimson Corporation - Druug Spokesthing at March 19, 2014 09:06 AM (APuJ7)

178 He's too fat to be president.

Posted by: Marc Lamont Hill at March 19, 2014 09:06 AM (Aif/5)

179 On a serious note, I would like to hear Christie's actual governing accomplishments in NJ. Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 01:04 PM (ZPrif) He is not a democrat from Newark or Hudson or Essex County

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 19, 2014 09:06 AM (nzKvP)

180 fuck this fat man in particular.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:06 AM (7mQyC)

181 I maybe misremembering this but as a Federal Prosecutor didn't Christie do a lot of grandstanding regarding the anthrax poisoning ruined peoples lives without any real evidence?

Posted by: Long Island at March 19, 2014 09:06 AM (7Nabg)

182 Taxing e-cigs is the first step toward taxing you for the air you breathe! They're just working out the technical details, waivers, and fees tax structure. Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2014 01:04 PM (o3MSL) Cam I get an Amen!!

Posted by: Carbon Tax-alicious at March 19, 2014 09:07 AM (xKLu4)

183 Between his RINO tendencies, the skeletons in his closet, and his brash demeanor I have a tough time seeing Christie winning the primary. I could see him doing well in the debates perhaps, but it seems to me he'd be a tough sell in Iowa or South Carolina. Walker or Perry. As it stands now (assuming they both run), those are our two choices. Unless we again split the conservative vote on vanity candidates and hand the nomination to a moderate, that being the True Conservative way.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 19, 2014 09:07 AM (SY2Kh)

184 I maybe misremembering this but as a Federal Prosecutor didn't Christie do a lot of grandstanding regarding the anthrax poisoning ruined peoples lives without any real evidence?


To his credit, he did go after lots of mafia stuff.


Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 09:07 AM (GQ8sn)

185 On a serious note, I would like to hear Christie's actual governing accomplishments in NJ. Posted by: Costanza he reduced funding for planned parenthood he groveled for hurricane sandy dough he expanded Medicaid he yelled at some teachers and refused to give them a raise, but that's it he got rid of the property tax rebate program when he took over after Corzine and saw the reality of NJ unfunded pension debt that's it. I am trying to be fair

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 09:07 AM (zOTsN)

186 Do you think this crispy dude could find our missing, lost or misplaced plane?

Posted by: Maylasian Government at March 19, 2014 01:05 PM (EYp+q)


------


CANNONBALLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Chris Christie at March 19, 2014 09:07 AM (nELVU)

187 It it time to roll out the "Fuck This And That Cat" gif?

Posted by: maddogg at March 19, 2014 09:07 AM (xWW96)

188 Stupid, non-spelling sock! Can.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 19, 2014 09:07 AM (xKLu4)

189 Mitt's problem was that he was a lousy candidate. He is by all appearances a great person, and may have been a great president. But there was only one issue that the GOP could have run on, and he was the only candidate who could not run on it. Hey put him in charge of treasury if we win in 2016.

Posted by: SH at March 19, 2014 09:07 AM (gmeXX)

190

On a serious note, I would like to hear Christie's actual governing accomplishments in NJ.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 01:04 PM (ZPrif)

 

He demanded that congress pass a pork filled Sandy Relief bill and then lied that he demanded the pass the pork filled version.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2014 09:07 AM (LI48c)

191

OK so I don't do the Twitter thing, but "draftRyan2016" seems like it would be an entity/person somehow interested in Paul Ryan running for president?   So there is supposed to be hope for the country when figures like Ryan and Christie are actually even mentioned for the GOP nomination?  Ryan's a House staffer and always will be - impressive to the rubes but a very small character not remotely up to big jobs or big missions.  Which was never far from the surface before, but with his post-2012 meltdown became obvious.  Well, to those who actually have any first-hand serious understanding of the Beltway or the important issues.

 

Christie?  As if, in a country where a limp 2012 turnout to throw out the worst president in our history (by far) defines the landscape, a nasty unaccomplished self-centered small market guy from one the dumbest political wastelands in the nation can be taken seriously?

 

Why don't people talk up Linc Chafee or Sheila Jackson Lee for the GOP nomination?  Would make about as much political or policy sense.

 

Posted by: non-purist at March 19, 2014 09:08 AM (afQnV)

192 Kasich, in Ohio, is kind of a RINO. He doesn't sell himself as almost-a-libertarian, his union-busting campaign fell flat on its ass, but by god sir when he's asked about taking the Medicaid money he at least has the decency to wince, and try to explain the cut-away fed program money he was hoping to replace with that. Plus he's undone a whole bunch of anti-business shit, and got some pro-gun rules in without backlash.

In short, he's no Scott Walker but compared to this fat turd he's Cal Coolidge meeting Rand Paul, and deserves to be about ten notches above Mel O'Creme on anybody's potential candidate list. 

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 19, 2014 09:08 AM (xq1UY)

193 "Taxing e-cigs is the first step toward taxing you for the air you breathe!" --- Negative ghostrider, it was I that took that first step.

Posted by: Judge Roberts at March 19, 2014 09:08 AM (7mQyC)

194 Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2014 01:01 PM (P7Wsr) Thanks very much. I'm rather bored by the anger at Romney (It's long done) and to say "If hee had just done this or that years later it isn't productive IMO. However, you are quire correct that Romney had some excellent qualities and I was certainly glad and proud to vote for him over Obama. However, as a person correctly posted above-the political landscape had changed. In addition, there was so much Bush fatigue and at that point there was no fighting against Pravda media entirely in Obama's corner. In this election, with Obamacare there may be Obama fatigue

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 09:08 AM (XyM/Y)

195 Here is a hint to the GOPe... don't expect support for any candidate who resides in a state where its residents can routinely ride the Acela. 

Posted by: phreshone at March 19, 2014 09:08 AM (Q6pxP)

196 He's too fat to be president.

Posted by: Marc Lamont Hill at March 19, 2014 01:06 PM (Aif/5)

 

Christie? Harrumph. A lightweight, a mere wisp.

Posted by: Zombie Grover Cleveland at March 19, 2014 09:08 AM (O66NZ)

197 Is there a potential candidate besides Walker or Cruz who can reassure us Amos Singletary-types that he won't sic the IRS on us.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lf3zn7l

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 09:09 AM (1/4XQ)

198 Chris Christie campaigned for the Democrat incumbent Obama in 2012. Why do people keep trying to put this shit sandwich back on the table?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at March 19, 2014 09:09 AM (qyfb5)

199 Don't forget NJ's stellar business climate ranking, currently at dead last or close to it. Yeah, that Christie is a modern model of GOP accomplishments.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 19, 2014 09:09 AM (wNF3N)

200 Posted by: THE Jeb Bush, Charming, Dashing and Handsome as Ever at March 19, 2014 01:05 PM (O66NZ)



You forgot the "Deserving, Dynastic" qualifiers

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2014 09:09 AM (o3MSL)

201 Meant to say that the election is long over.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 09:09 AM (XyM/Y)

202 Speaking of blowhards, Holder is going after Toyota with criminal charges, and a $1.2 billion dollar fine.

Because when it comes to criminals, our U.S. Attorneys have no one to fear more than Toyota Corp.


Funny how Gubmint Motors gets to kill 303 people and the Justice Department snoozes.  It's a like riddle wrapped in a mystery inside a big steaming turd of crony capitalism.

http://tinyurl.com/oycz3nb

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 09:09 AM (8ZskC)

203 To his credit, he did go after lots of mafia stuff.


Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 01:07 PM (GQ8sn)

 

Government racketeering hates competition.

Posted by: buzzion at March 19, 2014 09:09 AM (LI48c)

204 "Why don't people talk up Linc Chafee or Sheila Jackson Lee for the GOP nomination? Would make about as much political or policy sense." --- Indeed.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:09 AM (7mQyC)

205 @147 Please tell me you knew Mitt's dad was an auto exec/career politician. Please.

You're quibbling with my "Self made man" point, right?

You do know that Romney got a scholarship to Harvard, right?  Dad's money didn't help there.  You also know that Romney gave his inheritance to charity when his father died, and that he'd already become a millionaire by that point, right?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:10 AM (P7Wsr)

206
You seriously can't come up with a good list for Romney?
1. Self-made man.
Posted by: bonhomme




Born the poor son of an automobile company President, Mitt grew up on the mean streets of Bloomfield Hills, playing stickball and pitching pennies with the children of other millionaires.

Working his way through Harvard Business School by saying, "Hey Dad -- I want to go to Harvard", young Mitt.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2014 09:11 AM (kdS6q)

207 Posted by: ThisBeingMilt --- Love your nic. Do people have your boss's bitches back in 45 minutes or do you have to take off a lot of people's balls?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 09:11 AM (APuJ7)

208 188 - It's never a bad time for that gif.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:11 AM (7mQyC)

209 Usually when it comes to New Jersey pols, it's a race to see which comes first, the next election or the perp walk...

Posted by: tu3031 at March 19, 2014 09:11 AM (nsQhi)

210 Givin' it all away, givin' it all away.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 19, 2014 09:11 AM (Dwehj)

211 197 He's too fat to be president. Posted by: Marc Lamont Hill at March 19, 2014 01:06 PM (Aif/5) Christie? Harrumph. A lightweight, a mere wisp. Posted by: Zombie Grover Cleveland at March 19, 2014 01:08 PM (O66NZ) -- Ahem

Posted by: Zombie Howard Taft at March 19, 2014 09:11 AM (GSIDW)

212 Heh. Backstreets Pub took down their FB page already.

Posted by: RWC at March 19, 2014 09:11 AM (fWAjv)

213 There's a fat man in the bathtub with the blues.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 09:12 AM (7ObY1)

214 Posted by: bonhomme at March 19, 2014 01:01 PM (P7Wsr) Thanks very much. I'm rather bored by the anger at Romney (It's long done) and to say "If hee had just done this or that years later it isn't productive IMO. However, you are quire correct that Romney had some excellent qualities and I was certainly glad and proud to vote for him over Obama. However, as a person correctly posted above-the political landscape had changed. In addition, there was so much Bush fatigue and at that point there was no fighting against Pravda media entirely in Obama's corner. In this election, with Obamacare there may be Obama fatigue Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 01:08 PM (XyM/Y) You do realize that the Rick Perry um I forgot the third thing was a joke about Rick Perry and not Mitt Romney, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 19, 2014 09:12 AM (VtjlW)

215 I love Scott Walker and love having him for my governor. That said, he is not very fiery nor aggressive. He is rather mild mannered and pleasant. I don't know how that would play in a presidential campaign.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 09:12 AM (oMKp3)

216

I can't stand that Fat Yankee Bastard.

 

Christie?  Yankee has different meanings depending on where you are, but he's no Yankee.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 19, 2014 09:12 AM (JtwS4)

217

I back the fat man to a hilt against the media.

 

I support the fat man for governor of that shit hole New Jersey.

 

For national office I will never vote for him.  Even if it means a democrat wins.  I will simply write in Ronald Reagan and flip the bird to the GOP.

 

There are millions like myself.  Keep going squishes and become a permanent minority slave to this out of control government.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 19, 2014 09:12 AM (tVTLU)

218 Born the poor son of an automobile company President, Mitt grew up on the mean streets of Bloomfield Hills, playing stickball and pitching pennies with the children of other millionaires. Working his way through Harvard Business School by saying, "Hey Dad -- I want to go to Harvard", young Mitt..... Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2014 01:11 PM (kdS6q) Shouldn't it be "Son of an itinerant automobile company president"?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 19, 2014 09:12 AM (oFCZn)

219 213 Heh.

Backstreets Pub took down their FB page already.

Posted by: RWC at March 19, 2014 01:11 PM (fWAjv)

 

Bwaahahahaha!  Douchebags!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2014 09:12 AM (DrWcr)

220 the next election or the perp walk... Posted by: tu3031 at March 19, 2014 01:11 PM (nsQhi) I know, right?

Posted by: Illinois, Where our Governors make our license plates at March 19, 2014 09:13 AM (xKLu4)

221 Born the poor son of an automobile company President, Mitt grew up on the mean streets of Bloomfield Hills, playing stickball and pitching pennies with the children of other millionaires.

Working his way through Harvard Business School by saying, "Hey Dad -- I want to go to Harvard", young Mitt.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2014 01:11 PM (kdS6q)

----

Class envy.   It aint just for progressives anymore.

Posted by: Chris Christie at March 19, 2014 09:13 AM (nELVU)

222 He is rather mild mannered and pleasant. I don't know how that would play in a presidential campaign.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 01:12 PM (oMKp3)

 

I did all right.

Posted by: Zombie Calvin Coolidge at March 19, 2014 09:13 AM (O66NZ)

223 ugg...... XXXXL sock.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 19, 2014 09:13 AM (nELVU)

224 Connie Rice The fuck is Connie Rice?

Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 09:13 AM (7ObY1)

225 * ponders arugula/spinach/kale salad, drizzled with extra virgin olive oil/balsamic dressing for lunch* Who am I kidding? Grilled ham & cheese, with chips.

Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at March 19, 2014 09:13 AM (aDwsi)

226 I love Scott Walker and love having him for my governor. That said, he is not very fiery nor aggressive. He is rather mild mannered and pleasant. I don't know how that would play in a presidential campaign.


Can he fake a down home negro dialect?  Cuz I can.

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at March 19, 2014 09:13 AM (8ZskC)

227 I seem to have inadvertently waded into an OWS meeting

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (zOTsN)

228 Backstreets Pub took down their FB page already.


Sure hope they don't get robbed by thugs with guns.


Posted by: EC at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (GQ8sn)

229 225 Connie Rice The fuck is Connie Rice? --- A bad pronunciation of "con arroz"?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (APuJ7)

230 But did Krispy ever give a ghey haircut?

Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (7ObY1)

231 Ahh....welcome to Presidential Primary Season 2016 at the HQ....where every potential candidate sucks. Except for Drew....who is too busy doing important blogging than to actually run.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (4twGa)

232 Posted by: Judge Roberts at March 19, 2014 01:08 PM (7mQyC)


Not quite, you gave us permission to tax without restraint, but it is our friendly politicians (and their lobbyist lawyer scum associates) that will implement an ever-increasing tax burden in accordance with that broad judicial rewrite of black letter law.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (o3MSL)

233 On a serious note, I would like to hear Christie's actual governing accomplishments in NJ. Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 01:04 PM (ZPrif) 2% cap on property tax hikes. Of course, Andrew Cuomo passed the same kind of thing in NY.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (8dNrT)

234 97 He's too fat to be president. Posted by: Marc Lamont Hill at March 19, 2014 01:06 PM (Aif/5) Christie? Harrumph. A lightweight, a mere wisp. Posted by: Zombie Grover Cleveland at March 19, 2014 01:08 PM (O66NZ) -- Ahem Posted by: Zombie Howard Taft at March 19, 2014 01:11 PM (GSIDW) Pussies. I'll out-drink every one of you sons of bitches.

Posted by: Zombie Ulysses S Grant at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (SY2Kh)

235 I'm starting to wish Christie had been on that damn plane.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (1Y+hH)

236 The fuck is Connie Rice? Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 01:13 PM (7ObY1) Think Condelenzza

Posted by: Illinois, Where our Governors make our license plates at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (xKLu4)

237 A bad pronunciation of "con arroz"? Mmmmm...now I want rice and beans.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (7ObY1)

238 Heh. Backstreets Pub took down their FB page already. Whoops!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 19, 2014 09:14 AM (cB3Ay)

239 From a senior citizens' point of view, I don't get the idea, that we should be grateful for having our childrens', our grandchildrens', our nieces and nephews' earnings stolen to give US welfare. I would tell Christie, "Please, don't do this IN MY NAME... I'm not that selfish." Frank, (tomorrow is my 74th birthday)

Posted by: franksalterego at March 19, 2014 09:15 AM (77I+2)

240 @206 Well, ex-qyooos me, I'm not a Mormon.
Nor would be.

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 09:15 AM (1/4XQ)

241 G*da*mit!!111!!!1eLeBiNtY!!!!

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at March 19, 2014 09:15 AM (xKLu4)

242 Class envy. It aint just for progressives anymore.

Another of my historic accomplishments.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 19, 2014 09:15 AM (Dwehj)

243 I love Scott Walker and love having him for my governor. That said, he is not very fiery nor aggressive. He is rather mild mannered and pleasant. ---- You don't have to sell me any more. I'm a fan. Seriously, I think it may potentially be a liability, but I think it can be overestimated. I'm not sure I would classify W as fiery or aggressive. The idea that you have to get someone to match Obama just because he has won the last two, in terms of personality, is not right to me.

Posted by: SH at March 19, 2014 09:15 AM (gmeXX)

244 Chris Christie is to the GOP what Chris Conte is to the Bears: terrible, but management loves him.

Posted by: talldave2 at March 19, 2014 09:15 AM (lNW+B)

245

I've told people this before, but New Jersey already had one of the nation's most generous Medicaid programs before Christie took office.  The expansion under ACA isn't much of one for NJ.  I wasn't especially surprised or upset that Christie chose not to fight the Dems in the legislature over this small expansion.  They passed an expansion bill almost before the ink was dry on Obama's signature on the ACA. 

 

I didn't know killing Medicaid was now a core Republican principle. 

---------------------------------------

My daughter moved out of NJ because the real estate taxes were so hideous. Has 'conservative' CC done a damn thing about it since?

CC is just a fat attention getting f*ck who has risen to the highest level of his ineptitude.

 

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at March 19, 2014 01:02 PM (oGrEy)

 

REAL ESTATE TAXES.  These are LOCAL taxes. They are very high in NJ because of the ridiculous number of small jusrisdictions and school districts that levy them.  Every little pissant township of 5000 people has its own fire and police department and bureaucrats. And they bleed homeowners to pay for them.  School districts also have local taxing power and that adds to the property tax burden.  The only thing the state can do is provide some rebates to homeowners, which Jon Corzine actually instituted to try to buy some votes - and he put the state into debt to fund them.  Christie killed the rebates his first 2 years in order to stop the debt financing of them and balance the state budget.  He also got the public employee pension system reformed which has saved localities a bunch of money, but not all of them have returned it to the homeowners in lower tax rates.  He can't do much about that.

 

The New Jersey state budget was basically a dumpster fire when Christie took office.  He's had his hands full trying to get a handle on the state's finances with a Democrat legislature that loves to borrow and spend money.  He actually was able to cut total spending his first two budgets, for the first time in like 50 years.  Spending has gone up in the last 3 budgets, mostly because of health care costs and education funding.  He's under pressure now to up the state contribution to the pension fund as he promised he would in return for getting the reforms done in 2010. 

 

Government in New Jersey is just really fucked up.

Posted by: rockmom at March 19, 2014 09:16 AM (Q4elb)

246 Ok, so Christie: 1) Cut Planned Abortionhood funding. Good. 2) Held the line on teachers union pay increases. Good. Although that will probably just be undone whenever the next Democrat takes over, right? The underlying structural problem is still there. Instead of 2% raises every year, it's 0% for a few years, then 4% raises when the Dems get back in power. Net to the taxpayer over a decade is probably a wash. Still, holding the line is good. Anything else? Has he expanded gun rights? Has he cut down on red tape? Has he limited the power of public unions? Has he limited the power of the eco-nazis?

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 09:16 AM (ZPrif)

247 "Do people have your boss's bitches back in 45 minutes or do you have to take off a lot of people's balls?" --- Lots of and lots of balls...and donkeys doing coke. "Ryko: Hi, come on in! Drugs to the right, hookers to the left. "

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:16 AM (7mQyC)

248 There can't be a missing airliner. The Aussies have a heat radar that can see 5000 miles.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 19, 2014 09:16 AM (bitz6)

249 @206 Well, ex-qyooos me, I'm not a Mormon. Nor would be. Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 01:15 PM (1/4XQ) please explain what that has to do with anything?

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 09:16 AM (zOTsN)

250 Givin' it all away, givin' it all away. Posted by: Prez'nit 404 I was just a boy.. Self denunciation here.

Posted by: Jimi Hendrix at March 19, 2014 09:16 AM (aDwsi)

251 Posted by: franksalterego at March 19, 2014 01:15 PM (77I+2) Happy Birthday Frank! And many more!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 09:17 AM (oMKp3)

252 There will soon be one, maybe two anti-gun bills heading to his desk. The first one bans magazines over 10 rounds along with a bunch of popular .22 rifles and makes owners into instant felons. If he signs this, we know he won't bother running for the GOP nomination.

Posted by: whoever at March 19, 2014 09:17 AM (pjMym)

253 Damn! How long have I been wearing that Hendrix sock?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 19, 2014 09:17 AM (aDwsi)

254 248 "Do people have your boss's bitches back in 45 minutes or do you have to take off a lot of people's balls?" --- Lots of and lots of balls...and donkeys doing coke. "Ryko: Hi, come on in! Drugs to the right, hookers to the left. " --- Gentlemen, I return you to the arts.

Posted by: Rick Gasko at March 19, 2014 09:17 AM (APuJ7)

255 Chris Christie is to the GOP what Chris Conte is to the Bears: terrible, but management loves him. Posted by: talldave2 at March 19, 2014 01:15 PM (lNW+B) Sigh. I miss NFL QBs on Facebook.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 19, 2014 09:17 AM (VtjlW)

256 225 Connie Rice The fuck is Connie Rice? Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 01:13 PM (7ObY1) Connie Rice is good with soy sauce.

Posted by: Maylasian Government at March 19, 2014 09:18 AM (EYp+q)

257 254 Damn! How long have I been wearing that Hendrix sock? --- Long enough to get that same bad perm he had.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 09:18 AM (APuJ7)

258 I love Scott Walker and love having him for my governor. That said, he is not very fiery nor aggressive. He is rather mild mannered and pleasant.


You gotta watch the quiet ones.  I can see Mr. Walker taking apart anyone in a debate... calmly... just by stating the conservative position in a way that would make his opponent look like a raving loon.  He also has a boyish charm so he can say "Aw shucks, you're stupid" and get away with it.

Posted by: sweet...ish at March 19, 2014 09:18 AM (bj+Nc)

259 There can't be a missing airliner. The Aussies have a heat radar that can see 5000 miles. Posted by: Boss Moss --------------- And cell phone towers good for thousands of miles.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 19, 2014 09:18 AM (aDwsi)

260 Damn! How long have I been wearing that Hendrix sock?
Hey, you're not Hendrix, Man!

Posted by: Tommy Chong at March 19, 2014 09:19 AM (Ua6T/)

261 Yeah, I don't think I'd vote for a Pubbie who brags about increasing spending.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:19 AM (0HooB)

262
It truly is weird watching the slow motion train wreck of our country.

Each special interest (here christie going for geezer votes) clamoring for the gimme money when you add it up to $20 trillion soon we are the poorest country in the world.




Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 19, 2014 09:19 AM (0Kobm)

263 I'm new here.  Let me make sure I get this.  DrewM doesn't like RINOs?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 19, 2014 09:20 AM (JtwS4)

264 259 I love Scott Walker and love having him for my governor. That said, he is not very fiery nor aggressive. He is rather mild mannered and pleasant. But, we're competent.

Posted by: Calvin Coolidge at March 19, 2014 09:20 AM (xKLu4)

265 If you want to use your business to announce your political views, fine. But you risk pissing off most of your customers.

Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 19, 2014 09:20 AM (r7mtu)

266 Damn! How long have I been wearing that Hendrix sock?

'Scuse me, while I kiss this guy.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at March 19, 2014 09:20 AM (Dwehj)

267 The only thing the state can do is provide some rebates to homeowners, which Jon Corzine actually instituted to try to buy some votes - and he put the state into debt to fund them. Christie killed the rebates his first 2 years in order to stop the debt financing of them and balance the state budget.He also got the public employee pension system reformed which has saved localities a bunch of money, but not all of them have returned it to the homeowners in lower tax rates. He can't do much about that. The New Jersey state budget was basically a dumpster fire when Christie took office. He's had his hands full trying to get a handle on the state's finances with aDemocrat legislature that loves to borrow and spend money. He actually was able to cut total spending his first two budgets, for the first time in like 50 years. Spending has gone up in the last 3 budgets, mostly because of health care costs and education funding. He's under pressure now to up the state contribution to the pension fund as he promised he would in return for getting the reforms done in 2010. Government in New Jersey is just really fucked up. Posted by: rockmom at March 19, 2014 01:16 PM (Q4elb the property tax rebate program predated Corzine by several years. Christy said he was going to get the tons of little towns to consolidate their schools to reduce administration costs never happened the people hated it and he dropped it he hates guns, loves tax money, and has no idea on how to create a positive business climate he is just the prettiest whore in the brothel

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 09:20 AM (zOTsN)

268 Born the poor son of an automobile company President, Mitt grew up on the mean streets of Bloomfield Hills, playing stickball and pitching pennies with the children of other millionaires.

Working his way through Harvard Business School by saying, "Hey Dad -- I want to go to Harvard", young Mitt.....

See my point above.  He got scholarships to Harvard, wasn't Dad's money.  He went to Stanford for a year then to BYU for his undergrad.  If you look at BYU tuition it's $2,400 per semester present-day.  It's dirt cheap now and was even cheaper in the '70s.

By the time he inherited his Dad's money, he was already a millionaire, and he gave his inheritance to charity.

So he grew up wealthy, so what?  A rich kid who doesn't use Daddy's money to become rich himself is still a self-made man.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:20 AM (P7Wsr)

269
Class envy. It aint just for progressives anymore.
Posted by: Chris Christie





Bloody peasants!

Posted by: King Arthur

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (kdS6q)

270 You want to talk about someone who had it rough! Why my grandmother had to work at a bank! And she was only the VP and it was only the second largest bank in Hawaii.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (Aif/5)

271 Long enough to get that same bad perm he had.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 01:18 PM (APuJ7)


----


Perm.....  PERM????


We'd like a word with you..... sir.

Posted by: NAACP at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (nELVU)

272 AtC- I was responding to Bonhomme's comments not to what nevergiveup posted which i didn't read through until you just directed me to it 1. Self-made man. 2. Dual-program JD AND MBA simultaneously with a stellar GPA 3. Genuinely good guy in his personal life 4. His family is not a mess unlike so many other politicians 5. Amazing at turning around failing companies 6. Elected Governor and did well in office 7. Clear thinker who recognized political reality in the face of mockery

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (XyM/Y)

273 "The REPUBLICAN candidates sucked? Are you kidding, compared to Obama they looked like Reagan's more talented, well-spoken brothers." So how else do you characterize a competitor who loses to someone who sucks?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (gBnkX)

274 265 - He's has much company in that viewpoint.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (7mQyC)

275 266 If you want to use your business to announce your political views, fine. But you risk pissing off most of your customers.

Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 19, 2014 01:20 PM (r7mtu)


Unless you're the ghey, and then it is a hate crime to not patronize your business!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (o3MSL)

276

Yeah, happy birthday Frank!!

 

Grammie:  I think Walker is a dark horse here.  He answers right on amnesty and he might just have what it takes.

 

Tremendous accomplishments and he already has been through the fire...

Posted by: prescient11 at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (tVTLU)

277 I wouldn't vote for Ralph Cramden.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (bitz6)

278 231 But did Krispy ever give a ghey haircut?
Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 01:14 PM (7ObY1)
Does he have a racist rock?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (51wwJ)

279 @250 Mitts' family background is not irrelevant to his success. Fyi, I do not begrudge the man his success.
Mitt's Mormonism did not prevent me from voting for him. I do think that if he'd won the Mormon "Church": would be getting a huge slice.
Mormonism qua religion = beyond farcical, but go ahead and be one. You just can't marry more than one tween these days.

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (1/4XQ)

280 Unbelievable OT MI union contract gives “special consideration” to “non-Christian” teachers The contract ran from 2011 to 2012 but was extended to 2017. The teachers belong to the Ferndale Education Association, a division of theMichigan Education Association. Regarding promotion to a vacant position, it states on page 22: Should there be two (2) or more of these applicants with equal qualifications for the position and one (1) or more of these applicants with equal qualifications is a current employee, the current employee with the greatest seniority shall be assigned. Special consideration shall be given to women and/or minority defined as: Native American, Asian American, Latino, African American and those of the non-Christian faith. However, in all appointments to vacant positions, the Board’s decision shall be final. non-Christian faith? The Special Consideration filter means Not The Most Qualified. hotair

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 09:21 AM (IXrOn)

281

You gotta watch the quiet ones. I can see Mr. Walker taking apart anyone in a debate... calmly... just by stating the conservative position in a way that would make his opponent look like a raving loon. He also has a boyish charm so he can say "Aw shucks, you're stupid" and get away with it.
Posted by: sweet...ish

 

 

Plus that huge surplus in his state can do a lot of talking for him.  Money talks and BS walks....

 

 

 

Posted by: Cheri at March 19, 2014 09:22 AM (G+Wff)

282 Every little pissant township of 5000 people has its own fire and police department and bureaucrats. My fire district in Colorado covers a couple of hundred square miles. About 800 people live in it, but many more travel through it, creating most of the calls (traffic accidents). It's run by volunteers. Last year's budget was, wait for it..... $112,000. And they do a damn fine job.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 09:22 AM (1Y+hH)

283 No one ever talks about how    Obammycare's    "expansion" of Medicaid uses federal funds that     have a  term limit    and will have to be   covered by  OTHER FUNDS in the future.   Other funds being a euphemism for "tax the state's citizens out the ass."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 19, 2014 09:22 AM (4df7R)

284 I'd vote for either Walker or Perry. But I really want to know 1) they won't pass amnesty. 2) they repeal Ocare 3) and wtf are they going to do to de-weaponize the IRS, EPA, & ATF

Posted by: votermom at March 19, 2014 09:22 AM (GSIDW)

285 272 Long enough to get that same bad perm he had. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 01:18 PM (APuJ7) ---- Perm..... PERM???? We'd like a word with you..... sir. --- I've got the obligatory Hendrix perm And I've got the inevitable pinhole burns All down the front of my favorite satin shirt

Posted by: Roger Waters at March 19, 2014 09:22 AM (APuJ7)

286 My impression of Chris Christie is that he is a self-serving ambitious pol with little in the way of animating ideology, and that he'll do anything to get ahead. If he wins, I see him being selfish and imposing his preferences on the public a la Doomberg. I do not trust him AT ALL.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 19, 2014 09:22 AM (r+7wo)

287 he is also a global warming believer

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 09:22 AM (zOTsN)

288 From a senior citizens' point of view, I don't get the idea, that we should be grateful for having our childrens', our grandchildrens', our nieces and nephews' earnings stolen to give US welfare.

That's a nice change of pace around here.

Posted by: HR at March 19, 2014 09:22 AM (ZKzrr)

289 Posted by: NAACP at March 19, 2014 01:21 PM (nELVU) I'm darker than Ben Jealous. I know that eats you color-obssessives up.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 09:23 AM (7ObY1)

290 MI union contract gives �special consideration� to �non-Christian� teachers --- That the state union contract or is it for certain portions of the state... like Dearbornistan?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 09:23 AM (APuJ7)

291 @280 Fwiw I do not shop Staples because Mitt turned 'em around. I do not shop them because they are over-priced and do not always have what I want.

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 09:23 AM (1/4XQ)

292 AtC- I was responding to Bonhomme's comments not to what nevergiveup posted which i didn't read through until you just directed me to it 1. Self-made man. 2. Dual-program JD AND MBA simultaneously with a stellar GPA 3. Genuinely good guy in his personal life 4. His family is not a mess unlike so many other politicians 5. Amazing at turning around failing companies 6. Elected Governor and did well in office 7. Clear thinker who recognized political reality in the face of mockery Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 01:21 PM (XyM/Y) Yes, I know. That was posted in response to an obvious joke.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 19, 2014 09:23 AM (VtjlW)

293 Christie ruins the old adage "too big to fail."

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 09:23 AM (A98Xu)

294 No one ever talks about how Obammycare's "expansion" of Medicaid uses federal funds that have a term limit and will have to be covered by OTHER FUNDS in the future.

I believe Mike Pence has mentioned that once or twice.  He may have been drowned out by the screams of "YOU WANT POOR PEOPLE TO DIE!!"

Posted by: HR at March 19, 2014 09:23 AM (ZKzrr)

295 But yes, now that you mention it I did know the thirdt thing was a joke and the boredom with dislike for anti Romney comments was not directed at Nevergiveup-just a general statement./

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 09:24 AM (XyM/Y)

296 I remember when Carlie Johansen and his minions were screaming that the census taker was lynched because he couldn't hang himself or something. I pointed out that he hung himself like 90% of those who hang themselves do -- simply wrap something around their neck, tie the other end to a door knob, and slump. For that I got banned. lol That's how Jaggers girlfriend did it.

Posted by: Zombie Pug at March 19, 2014 09:24 AM (r7mtu)

297

Bonhomme:

 

I liked Romney as a man and thought he would have made a good President, but the bar is pretty low these days.

 

Then he opened his fucking mouth on the AZ religious freedom bill.  Thank God that fuckstick lost.  And his amnesty pal Paul Ryan lost as well. 

 

The GOPe going down in flames is the first step towards saving this country.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 19, 2014 09:24 AM (tVTLU)

298 292 @280 Fwiw I do not shop Staples because Mitt turned 'em around. I do not shop them because they are over-priced and do not always have what I want. --- Do I drink my own urine because I'm crazy? No, I do it because it's sterile and I like the taste!

Posted by: Patches O'Houlihan at March 19, 2014 09:24 AM (APuJ7)

299 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 01:21 PM (IXrOn) Ugh. And I'm sure it's all For The Children(TM). It's so passe to evaluate people based only on their qualifications and performance.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 19, 2014 09:24 AM (r+7wo)

300 284 Those other funds will be state funds.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 19, 2014 09:24 AM (bitz6)

301 GET IN MAH BELLY!

Posted by: Governor Bossy at March 19, 2014 09:24 AM (QM5S2)

302 @250 Mitts' family background is not irrelevant to his success. Fyi, I do not begrudge the man his success. Mitt's Mormonism did not prevent me from voting for him. I do think that if he'd won the Mormon "Church": would be getting a huge slice. Mormonism qua religion = beyond farcical, but go ahead and be one. You just can't marry more than one tween these days. Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country I think you do begrudge him his success and gosh, its awfully big of you to vote for him even though he is a Mormon which I am not BTW

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 09:24 AM (zOTsN)

303 Christians and white people need to learn the art of lawfare. It is supposed to be illegal for the govt to discriminate against you based on race or religion. Yet whites and, increasingly, Christians are routinely, systematically discriminated against by the govt. Flood the zone with lawsuits. It's ok to be angry for being discriminated against because of your skin tone -- even if your skin tone is pasty white.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 09:25 AM (ZPrif)

304 301 284 Those other funds will be state funds.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 19, 2014 01:24 PM (bitz6)



Yes.   State funds raised by    "taxing the state's    citizens out the ass."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 19, 2014 09:25 AM (4df7R)

305 Unless you're the ghey, and then it is a hate crime to not patronize your business! Posted by: Hrothgar -------------------------- Unless...., you are the WH pastry chef

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 19, 2014 09:25 AM (aDwsi)

306 Posted by: HR at March 19, 2014 01:23 PM (ZKzrr) As we've discussed before, pointing out that Medicaid patients have no better (and often worse) outcomes than the uninsured also leads to "you want poor people to die" So...consistency I guess, but certainly not anything approaching rationality. And therein lies the problem, if you cannot rationally argue with these people than hope is lost.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 19, 2014 09:26 AM (HDwDg)

307 287 - Thankfully you are not alone in that impression so hopefully this particular jackal never leaves jersey, politically anyway.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:26 AM (7mQyC)

308 I believe Mike Pence has mentioned that once or twice. He may have been drowned out by the screams of "YOU WANT POOR PEOPLE TO DIE!!" --- Jindal mentioned the same thing and tried to block the funds as a result. I don't remember if that's the bill which got passed on a voice vote due to shenanigans or not, though. To explain, a "stimulus bill" supporter in the LA House told everyone that there was a bill coming up that was ceremonial to honor an individual, so they all voted for it. It turned out that the bill they actually filed was a measure to force Jindal to accept the stimulus money he'd attempted to reject. I can't remember if that was the Medicare money, the unemployment money, or something else, though.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 09:26 AM (APuJ7)

309 Then he opened his fucking mouth on the AZ religious freedom bill. Thank God that fuckstick lost. --- Ah, thanks for bringing the crazy.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 09:26 AM (ZPrif)

310 Chris Christie should be called by his rightful title: "The Crisco Kid" or "Tater Inhaler".

Posted by: Maylasian Government at March 19, 2014 09:26 AM (EYp+q)

311 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 19, 2014 01:22 PM (4df7R)


Just because they aren't talking about the time limit on ACA federal support to state Medicaid, doesn't mean that it wasn't well known to anyone that cared to understand the consequences.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2014 09:27 AM (o3MSL)

312 One other thing I know about Scott Walker. He loves the troops. First hand knowledge of that. One other thing. He is a man of deep faith. One more, on a personal level. A few weeks before the recall I was talking to him (okay okay I admit I was hugging him) and I told him I prayed for him and his family every night. He got tears in his eyes. So humble.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 09:27 AM (oMKp3)

313
By the time he inherited his Dad's money, he was already a millionaire, and he gave his inheritance to charity.
Posted by: bonhomme




That would be the late 90s, long after his family's wealth and connections had pushed him to the front of the line.  And the "charity" he donated to was a school in his father's honor at BYU - hardly a pressing social need.  And now about the tax write off he took for the donation.....

More importantly, keep pretend Mitt didn't get hammed for all this in the election, which Mister Competence lost after spending a billion dollars to just marginally improve over McCain.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2014 09:28 AM (kdS6q)

314 Yes, I know. That was posted in response to an obvious joke.

I did acknowledge that in my post 162:

"Also, I recognize this was a riff on Rick Perry's 'I forgot the third thing' gaffe."



P.S.  I enjoy your posts here atc.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:28 AM (P7Wsr)

315 What if we just owned up and admitted we want poor people to die? Politics is a colossal pile of swirling turds.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 09:28 AM (A98Xu)

316 It's so passe to evaluate people based only on their qualifications and performance. Posted by: chique -------------------- Meritocracy is not fair! It gives an unfair advantage to the achievers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 19, 2014 09:28 AM (aDwsi)

317 @303 My family background was not irrelevant to my success.
Nor was my beautiful and witty ex-wife's family background irrelevant to my popping the question.
Kool aid much?

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 09:28 AM (1/4XQ)

318 OT, but from rdbrewer in the sidebar:



Charlie Brown returns to big screen after 24 years

A 3D 'Peanuts' is due in theaters on Nov. 6, 2015.



FGS,  why?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 19, 2014 09:28 AM (4df7R)

319 That the state union contract or is it for certain portions of the state... like Dearbornistan? Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 01:23 PM (APuJ7) Here's the full story http://tinyurl.com/mjvnzet and, btw, I asked Gabriel Malor at AoSHQ to look at this clause, and he agrees that this is very problematic. Not only does this conflict with an earlier clause in the contract forbidding this kind of discrimination, its insistence on blocking review is also troubling: It's and Ed story.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 09:28 AM (IXrOn)

320 I'm darker than Ben Jealous.
Posted by: Citizen X at March 19, 2014 01:23 PM (7ObY1)
Johnny Winter is darker than Ben Jealous.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 19, 2014 09:29 AM (51wwJ)

321 No love for Statists from either side of the aisle. No thanks.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:29 AM (CesFO)

322 Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 01:25 PM (ZPrif) That's not a biblically based approach for many Christians.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 09:29 AM (oMKp3)

323 WTF, Christie!  The only other person I've seen cinch a belt up under her tits is Michelle.

Posted by: Fritz at March 19, 2014 09:30 AM (UzPAd)

324 Yes. State funds raised by "taxing the state's citizens out the ass."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at March 19, 2014 01:25 PM (4df7R)


If only I could send them what comes out mah azz to pay those taxes.

Posted by: sweet...ish at March 19, 2014 09:30 AM (bj+Nc)

325 And the "charity" he donated to was a school in his father's honor at BYU - hardly a pressing social need.

Hrm.  The URL bar doesn't say dailykos.com, but here we are, demanding a man's money be spent on social welfare instead of what he chooses to spend it on.

Posted by: HR at March 19, 2014 09:30 AM (ZKzrr)

326 I checked the presidential election numbers the other day. In 2008 NJ went 57% for Obama. After four years of deliberate malevolence, what did they do? 58% for Obama. This state is hopeless.

Posted by: whoever at March 19, 2014 09:30 AM (pjMym)

327

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 01:21 PM (XyM/Y)

 

I voted for Romney. In my view, what really did him in was the second debate. There were seemingly innumerable times when he could've drawn blood and handily defeated Obama then and there. I could see Romney visibly restrain himself at those moments, and found myself shouting at the screen: go for it, go for it...and he never went for it. Ultimately, I think it was Romney's sense of decorum and noblesse oblige that did him in, at least in those last two debates.

 

Watching Romney campaign was like watching a superbly gifted athelete play in a sport he doesn't really like.

Posted by: troyriser at March 19, 2014 09:31 AM (O66NZ)

328 Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 01:26 PM (APuJ7) Paging AtC, AtC, please do your "Read the Bill" Rant at your convenience, AtC, you're rant.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 19, 2014 09:31 AM (HDwDg)

329 When he visits other states is there a risk NJ might tip over?

Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at March 19, 2014 09:31 AM (7mQyC)

330

I have completed my brackets.  Final 2 are:

 

Rand Paul

Zombie Barry Goldwater

(won a nail-biter over Zombie Calvin Coolidge).

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 19, 2014 09:31 AM (JtwS4)

331 @246 Don't try to put anyone any knowledge.  You're harshing the true cons' mellow.

I see Drew has moved on from asinine slandering of Thomas Sowell to safer and easier targets.  Nothing gets the plastic outrage of the true cons more jacked up than a little Chris Christie hate.

Because nothing says "I'm a true conservative" than fat jokes. Wins votes, too.  People love voting for the preferred candidates of people who make fun of other people's weight. 

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 19, 2014 09:31 AM (uUI8H)

332 breaking news - heh y'all know the 22 pound cat that attacked a family, mad em hide behind a bedroom door and call the cops? really a 13 pound cat that scratched a kid after he pulled his tail. cat went ape when dad kicked cat after cat scratched kid. cat now in shelter. whole family should be going to shelter.

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 19, 2014 09:32 AM (rDidD)

333 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 01:28 PM (IXrOn)

It looks like a tax to me!


Besides, you don't have standing!

Posted by: CJSC John "IRS" Roberts at March 19, 2014 09:32 AM (o3MSL)

334 LOL. Russia Today calls Putin's speech "historic" I'm sure Chris Matthews is having a seizure.

Posted by: votermom at March 19, 2014 09:32 AM (GSIDW)

335 That would be the late 90s, long after his family's wealth and connections had pushed him to the front of the line.

And the scholarships to Harvard, simultaneous JD and MBA from Harvard with an amazing GPA didn't get him connections and opportunities?


Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:32 AM (P7Wsr)

336

Watching Romney campaign was like watching a superbly gifted athlete play in a sport he doesn't really like.

 

This.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 19, 2014 09:32 AM (JtwS4)

337

Just heard on radio news Colorado has reduced the projected tax money collected on weed this year by half.

 

:O

 

*this is my shocked face*

Posted by: Infidel at March 19, 2014 09:33 AM (cojT9)

338 320 That the state union contract or is it for certain portions of the state... like Dearbornistan? Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 01:23 PM (APuJ7) Here's the full story http://tinyurl.com/mjvnzet and, btw, I asked Gabriel Malor at AoSHQ to look at this clause, and he agrees that this is very problematic. Not only does this conflict with an earlier clause in the contract forbidding this kind of discrimination, its insistence on blocking review is also troubling: It's and Ed story. --- It's a contract just for Ferndale, MI. When I looked up the city, it's a lily-white suburb of Detroit BUT has an extremely vibrant LGBT community. I'm guessing it's not a stretch to say that the LGBT community probably saw an opportunity to stick it to those "evil Christianists" when the contract came up.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 19, 2014 09:33 AM (APuJ7)

339 Because nothing says "I'm a true conservative" than fat jokes. Wins votes, too. People love voting for the preferred candidates of people who make fun of other people's weight.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 19, 2014 01:31 PM (uUI8H)



Oh please.      People had no trouble   voting for a worthless    slugabed    who was the preferred candidate of people who   make fun of other people's   disabled children.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/u][/i][/s][/b] at March 19, 2014 09:33 AM (4df7R)

340 One other thing. He is a man of deep faith. I think it's wonderful he has a deep faith and great that you pray for him. With all the lonnies around that's a good thing. However, we know the game plan of the Democrats. They'll use his faith as a cudgel- "RW religious nut". I'm not saying he shouldn't be nominated if he wants to run (I think he's one of the best choices). However, Democrats have no other game plan that the Republican candidate: 1. Is a religious nut 2, Is stupid 3. Both one and two 4. Is an evil, religious nut 3. Any combination of 1-4 and "they hate women" I not know how they deal with that if they're not an aggressive campiagner person to begin with

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 09:33 AM (XyM/Y)

341 "...asinine slandering of Thomas Sowell" Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 19, 2014 01:31 PM (uUI8H) Isn't it kind of early to be so high? Go get lunch and come back when you aren't stupid high.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 19, 2014 09:33 AM (A98Xu)

342 Romney was and is a good man. Would have made a decent President. About 10k better than Obama. It's insane for anyone to be happy that Obama won over Romney. And ignorant. Romney wasn't my choice in the primary.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 09:34 AM (ZPrif)

343 And, speaking of obamacare, again from HotAir link (Forbes), this is ominous: Are ObamaCare's Tax Credits Harmless? The Little Understood Dark Side Of The Subsidies http://tinyurl.com/os5dbqh it just gets worse and worse there is no ONE good thing in this faux law

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 09:34 AM (IXrOn)

344 And the "charity" he donated to was a school in his father's honor at BYU - hardly a pressing social need.

He donated money to a different charity than I would have chosen if I would have had enough money to donate to a charity!! Fuck him!!!11!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 19, 2014 09:34 AM (+lsX1)

345

trumpetdaddy:

 

First, it's libel because it's written.  Second, I love how disagreeing with someone is "slander".  Free speech much.  Get in line comrades!!!  The RINOs are going to take us all the way to victory!!

 

RomneyRyan2016!!!!

 

People would take you guys seriously if you didn't lose all the fucking time.  hahahaha.  Get your shine box and let us handle things.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 19, 2014 09:34 AM (tVTLU)

346 The Horde is titchy today. 

Posted by: sweet...ish at March 19, 2014 09:35 AM (bj+Nc)

347 That's not a biblically based approach for many Christians. -- huh? Totally have no idea what you are referring to.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 09:35 AM (ZPrif)

348 Then hope is lost. You can not rationally argue with these people. The 'logic centers' of their brain do not exist. Posted by: Ugg Boots at March 19, 2014 01:32 PM (oGrEy) I meant "with the middle." Obviously you cannot rationally argue with a leftist, they're nuts. But if you allow yourself to be drowned out by the vocal minority screaming "killing poor people" then yes, it is lost.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 19, 2014 09:35 AM (HDwDg)

349 " This state is hopeless. Posted by: whoever at March 19, 2014 01:30 PM (pjMym) " --- Yup I could see that back in the mid nineties by the time Whitmans second term rolled around, nothing has changed. Very glad I got the heck out of there at the first opportunity.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:35 AM (7mQyC)

350 Afternoon Morons. I would ask who we're pissing off today, but appears that we're just pissing off, and on, each other.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 19, 2014 09:36 AM (da5Wo)

351 The government must rebuild my beach house!!!!11!!!!

Posted by: Another Asshole at March 19, 2014 09:36 AM (Aif/5)

352 It's all moot.

Hillary will be prezzy for 8 years regardless who runs for the GOP.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 19, 2014 09:36 AM (0LHZx)

353 Can donuts be administered intravenously? That could explain it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 19, 2014 12:53 PM (8ZskC)

 

***

 

We're gonna need a bigger IV catheter.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 19, 2014 09:36 AM (lHb9q)

354

Infidel:

 

I think it's going to be comparable to the tax $$ they lost when Magpul left.  Stupid fucking hippies.  Fuck these little tyrants.

Posted by: prescient11 at March 19, 2014 09:36 AM (tVTLU)

355 Filed Under: "Why We're Winning"

Source: Something on the internet called "Jezebel"

Headline (real):

"Sarah Palin's New Show Promises Us Man Caves, Freedom, And Dirty People"

Posted by: mrp at March 19, 2014 09:36 AM (JBggj)

356 Just heard on radio news Colorado has reduced the projected tax money collected on weed this year by half. Yep, as predicted by the private growers. They are fat and happy from collecting money, not just from smoking weed.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 09:37 AM (1Y+hH)

357 On a serious note, I would like to hear Christie's actual governing accomplishments in NJ. Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 19, 2014 01:04 PM (ZPrif)

2% cap on property tax hikes. Of course, Andrew Cuomo passed the same kind of thing in NY.

 

Posted by: DrewM. at March 19, 2014 01:14 PM (8dNrT)

 

--Balanced 4 straight budgets with no income tax increases.

 

--Killed state funding for Planned Parenthood.

 

--Refused to renew a millionaire's surtax enacted by Jim McGreevy that drove a bunch of rich people out of the state.

 

--Got a pretty massive pension/benefits reform bill passed that for the first time requires state employees and teachers to contribute to their pension plans and health insurance premiums, changed the formula for calcuating state retirees' pensions, and eliminated the more egregious double- and triple- dipping that some local officials were getting.  This resulted in the immediate retirement of about 5000 state employees, most of whom have not been replaced, so it also shrank the state workforce. 

 

--Got a decent teacher tenure reform bill passed.

 

--Turned down a bunch of federal money for a boondoggle third Hudson River tunnel. 

 

--Refused to reappoint a very liberal state Supreme Court justice who happened to be black, drawing brickbats fromt the racial grievance crowd.

 

--Signed a civil union bill but refused to sign a same-sex marriage bill.  Tried to get a referendum on the ballot but the courts beat him to it and legalized same sex marriage. 

 

This may not be a stellar record to everyone, but given the almost comical level of corruption and incompetence displayed by his two predecessors, the very liberal and venal legislature he's had to deal with, and the New York Times and Philadelphia Inquirer dumping on him every chance they got, he's done a good job in my book.  I don't think many others could have done better.

 

I also think he has done an invaluable service in getting at least some people in America to look at Republicans differently, to see a guy who is willing to compromise with Democrats (and yes, even to suck up to a liberal President when his state is in distress),  with a sense of humor and a sense of what Americans really want out of their government,  a guy who isn't afraid to engage with popular culture or to be blunt with people.   There's a good reason why he won reelection in one of the bluest states with 65% of the vote.  We need to find more Republicans like him in other blue and purple states.

 

Does that mean he should be President or even the Republican nominee?  Nope.  I was on the fence about him even before the bridge scandal but now I don't want him at all even to run for President.  I might support him in 2020 if the GOP blows this next election though.

Posted by: rockmom at March 19, 2014 09:37 AM (NYnoe)

358 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 01:34 PM (IXrOn) I've been asking about this for months. Since Bambycare merely estimates your subsidies based on 2013 tax returns (but actually bases them on 2014 income) anyone who manages to get ahead in this shitty economy (which is to say not me) gets totally fucked at the end of the year. Rejoice! For your cheap insurance was actually a scam.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 19, 2014 09:37 AM (HDwDg)

359 Capitalism wins again, even in Colorado.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 09:37 AM (1Y+hH)

360 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 01:33 PM (XyM/Y) They attacked Walker's church and his faith during the recall. He's been through this before. (btw he goes to one of the church plants of Dr. Stuart Briscoe's Elmbrook Church. Maybe you are familiar with Stuart Briscoe)

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 09:37 AM (oMKp3)

361 Slandering of Thomas Sowell? The left's greatest victory has been mangling the language so much that even people on the right are fucking it up now.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 19, 2014 09:37 AM (gBnkX)

362 ": BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 19, 2014 01:36 PM" --- At least the water is warm.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:38 AM (7mQyC)

363 344 Romney was and is a good man. Would have made a decent President. About 10k better than Obama. It's insane for anyone to be happy that Obama won over Romney. And ignorant. Romney wasn't my choice in the primary. That's my story too. Stuck with it too, since it went down that way.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:38 AM (CesFO)

364 I hope none of you with kids ever make any significant money, apparently that invalidates anything your kids might ever accomplish. Stay poor, for your children.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 19, 2014 09:38 AM (ZshNr)

365 Rejoice! For your cheap insurance was actually a scam. Obama's entire philosophy is based on the concept that the better you do, the worse you'll end up doing.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 09:39 AM (1Y+hH)

366 There's a good reason why he won reelection in one of the bluest states with 65% of the vote. We need to find more Republicans like him in other blue and purple states. Does that mean he should be President or even the Republican nominee? Nope. That was a very thoughtful and reasonable comment. Welcome to Club RINO.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 19, 2014 09:39 AM (SY2Kh)

367 "Hillary will be prezzy for 8 years regardless who runs for the GOP.'' --- I heard and read the same endlessly in 2007 and early 2008... then something even stranger happened, twice.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:39 AM (7mQyC)

368 Briscoe's Elmbrook Church. Maybe you are familiar with Stuart Briscoe)

Posted by: grammie winger at March 19, 2014 01:37 PM (oMKp3)

 

I"m more familiar with Briscoe County, Jr.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2014 09:39 AM (DrWcr)

369
The URL bar doesn't say dailykos.com, but here we are, demanding a man's money be spent on social welfare instead of what he chooses to spend it on.
Posted by: HR




Demanding?  No.

Recognizing that throwing cash at something with your family name plastered on it is different morally and politically than other potential uses? Yep.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2014 09:39 AM (kdS6q)

370 Romney's family had money and Mitt made more after graduating with multiple real degrees (and an actual record of success), but he was only 10,000 times better than his commie America hating racist opponent so kcuf him!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 19, 2014 09:40 AM (o3MSL)

371 The highest I want to see Kris Kreosote in the Federal gov't is as head of the NLRB or Sec'y of Ed. Maybe.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 19, 2014 09:40 AM (gBnkX)

372 MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit: "A 3D 'Peanuts' is due in theaters on Nov. 6, 2015."

FGS, why?

Mwah wah wah wa waaaah.

Posted by: Adults in the Room at March 19, 2014 09:40 AM (1CroS)

373 New JerseyÂ’s Constitution requires a balanced budget every year. Christie has met that obligation in every budget year. The major flaw with the governorÂ’s claim is that the deficit he cites never went away. And Christie now dismisses that deficit calculation as the "old way of budgeting." The $11 billion refers to a $10.7 billion structural deficit the stateÂ’s nonpartisan Office of Legislative Service projected for the fiscal 2011 budget year, when Christie proposed his first spending plan. A structural deficit measures how much money the state would need if current services and revenues remained the same and all spending obligations required by statute were fully funded. But the state does not have to meet all of its obligations since the budget supersedes statute. So although a state statute may require certain levels of spending on different programs, the governor can sign a budget that does otherwise. And thatÂ’s largely what Christie did in his first budget.

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 09:40 AM (zOTsN)

374 Stay poor, for your children. Posted by: Lincolntf Yep, because jealousy.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 09:40 AM (1Y+hH)

375

Charlie Brown returns to big screen after 24 years

A 3D 'Peanuts' is due in theaters on Nov. 6, 2015.


 

Schroeder will finally come out as ghey.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2014 09:41 AM (DrWcr)

376 @368 Can you say, "Reagan Landslides"? I think you can.

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 09:41 AM (1/4XQ)

377 For the fiscal 2012 budget year, OLS projected a structural deficit of about $10.5 billion, nearly the same size as the previous fiscal year. But Christie then dismissed that calculation, calling it the "old way of budgeting." In a budget speech last year, Christie said the projected deficit "assumes no one is actually managing the budget or setting priorities. That is yesterdayÂ’s New Jersey." Now, Christie said, "the baseline is zero" for budgeting. so its a "balanced budget" with 11 Billion in unfunded obligations

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 09:41 AM (zOTsN)

378 If Maryland elected a Republican Governor that was just as much of a 2A/Scamnesty squish as Mr. Christie is - guess what...I'd have no problem with it. And I live here 5-7 days a week now. It would at least be an (R), if only in name, in a very very very blue state. Just not material for the top of the 2016 ticket.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 19, 2014 09:41 AM (CesFO)

379 I not know how they deal with that if they're not an aggressive campiagner person to begin with --- Not being an aggressive campaigner is not the same as being a wall flower. I think he has shown an ability to stand up for himself.

Posted by: SH at March 19, 2014 09:41 AM (gmeXX)

380 Maybe you are familiar with Stuart Briscoe) No; I an not. Thx for the info. i will have to look it up,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 19, 2014 09:41 AM (XyM/Y)

381 Hey, Brandon in Baton Rouge, I hear Edwin Edwards is gearing up to run for Congress.  That should be...interesting.  Is he on probation?  If so, he wouldn't be able to vote. 

Posted by: no good deed at March 19, 2014 09:41 AM (vBhbc)

382 Recognizing that throwing cash at something with your family name plastered on it is different morally and politically than other potential uses? Yep.

What is the best moral and political charitable donation? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 19, 2014 09:42 AM (+lsX1)

383 Oh yay, Hollowpoint is here to namecall and then clutch his pearls when it comes back around to him.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 19, 2014 09:42 AM (gBnkX)

384 345 http://tinyurl.com/os5dbqh it just gets worse and worse there is no ONE good thing in this faux law Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 01:34 PM (IXrOn) Oh, I don't know. When this happens to Obama voters I will laugh and laugh: Sadly the media has once again failed, and left millions of American with only half the information that is needed to make an intelligent decision about ObamaCareÂ’s tax credits. We can anticipate a flurry of sad stories of families receiving multi-thousand dollar bills from the IRS next April, and quotes from the families wondering why no one told them the truth about the ObamaCare tax credits.

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2014 09:42 AM (zoehZ)

385

I see Drew has moved on from asinine slandering of Thomas Sowell to safer and easier targets. Nothing gets the plastic outrage of the true cons more jacked up than a little Chris Christie hate.


Because nothing says "true con" like sticking your tongue so far down Barky's mouth it comes out his ass and wraps around his balls.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 19, 2014 09:42 AM (zF6Iw)

386 Nood up.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 19, 2014 09:42 AM (cB3Ay)

387 Obama's entire philosophy is based on the concept that the better you do, the worse you'll end up doing. Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 01:39 PM (1Y+hH) From the Medicaid expansion money to this: everything that man creates is a Faustian Bargain of epic proportion.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 19, 2014 09:43 AM (HDwDg)

388 What is the best moral and political charitable donation? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 19, 2014 01:42 PM (+lsX1)

 

The Conan Foundation for Crushing Your Enemies, Seeing Them Driven Before You, and Hearing the Lamentation of The Women

Posted by: Insomniac at March 19, 2014 09:43 AM (DrWcr)

389 The First Tranny fired the White House pastry chef because he was a catcher.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 19, 2014 09:43 AM (bitz6)

390 I may be the world's worst Christian. I really believe:
It's better to be smart than dumb, healthy not ill, rich not poor.
Free, not enslaved.

Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 09:43 AM (1/4XQ)

391 You seriously can't come up with a good list for Romney?
1. Self-made man.
Posted by: bonhomme

asinine slandering of Thomas Sowell

Posted by: trumpetdaddy

Look in my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
I've been everything you want to be
I'm the cult of personality
Like Mussolini and Kennedy
I'm the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, Nobel Prize
When a mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You won't have to follow me
Only you can set me free

I sell the things you need to be
I'm the smiling face on your TV
I'm the cult of personality
I exploit you, still you love me
I told you one and one make three
I'm the cult of personality
Like Joseph Stalin and Gandhi
I'm the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, a Nobel Prize
A leader speaks, that leader dies
You won't have to follow me
Only you can set you free

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You gave me power in your God's name
I'm every person you need to be
I'm the cult of personality

Posted by: Living Color [/i] [/b] at March 19, 2014 09:43 AM (5ikDv)

392 Romney was and is a good man. ---- Unfortunately, he was a lousy candidate, particularly for the election he was in.

Posted by: SH at March 19, 2014 09:44 AM (gmeXX)

393 383 - haha I saw that on the new the other day as well and had a good laugh, apparently he chose congress as he couldn't run for any state offices with his criminal record.... but that's no problem for a house candidate apparently. Amusing.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at March 19, 2014 09:45 AM (7mQyC)

394
"There's a good reason why [Christie] won reelection in one of the bluest states with 65% of the vote. "




He bought off his Democratic challenger by calling a special election and giving him a free Senate seat?




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2014 09:45 AM (kdS6q)

395 If Romney had changed his name, dropped out of school, lived in the barrio, and still gotten rich.... ....he would be vilified as being a crook. Ya just can't win.

Posted by: Meremortal at March 19, 2014 09:45 AM (1Y+hH)

396 384 Recognizing that throwing cash at something with your family name plastered on it is different morally and politically than other potential uses? Yep. What is the best moral and political charitable donation? Asking for a friend. Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at March 19, 2014 01:42 PM (+lsX1) And I guess the school or building he donated to will help no one whosoever? And what's wrong with honoring your father? Why knock anyone for being rich via legal and moral means? It's different if someone rants about income inequality and fat cats on Wall Street while taking lavish vacations and hobnobbing with the stars. But if he's minding his own business, who cares? And more power to him.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 19, 2014 09:45 AM (r+7wo)

397 We seem to be having an outbreak of MLBS (Meatball-Like Behavior Syndrome) at this site. What is an example of this?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 19, 2014 09:45 AM (IXrOn)

398 that like saying my household budget is balanced. Just ignore the credit card debt and mortgage

Posted by: thunderb at March 19, 2014 09:45 AM (zOTsN)

399 I may be the world's worst Christian. I really believe: It's better to be smart than dumb, healthy not ill, rich not poor. Free, not enslaved. Posted by: Just some Amos Singletary-type guy in flyover country at March 19, 2014 01:43 PM (1/4XQ) How is this being a bad Christian? For example, the book of Proverbs takes the same view.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 19, 2014 09:46 AM (r+7wo)

400 He's so evil, he can't even give money away right.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 19, 2014 09:47 AM (ZshNr)

401 Yawwwwwnn. *stretch* Christie's antics are now boring. I was over Christie a long time ago, when many were applauding his eagerness to git up in someone's grill. His confronting of a Dem nor his owning of lefty policies changes my opinion of him. I believe he handled the bridge scandal well, and actually won a few points with me for having controlled that press conference as well as he did, but that's the extent of it. He might be perfect for NJ, but he is by no means the guy to lead/represent us as a country.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2014 09:48 AM (DmNpO)

402 My impression of Chris Christie is that he is a self-serving ambitious pol with little in the way of animating ideology, and that he'll do anything to get ahead. If he wins, I see him being selfish and imposing his preferences on the public a la Doomberg.

I do not trust him AT ALL.

 

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at March 19, 2014 01:22 PM (r+7wo)

 

That's a very valid POV on him.  His animating ideology is "can I fix this problem in a way that makes me look good?"  But some in New Jersey are thankful that he is at least trying to fix the problems, and NOT doing it in an ideological way. 

 

Independents I know in NJ still love him and think this bridge thing is a partisan witch hunt.  They like him because he has "spoken truth to power" a/k/a the Democratic machine and the unions, and because he didn't care about anything but getting help with Sandy relief even though he pissed off Republicans with his embrace of Obama right before the election.  They figure if he has pissed off both liberals and conservatives, he's probably doing it right.  The reason the bridge thing has hurt him so badly in the polls in NJ is that it tarnishes this image of him being non-partisan and sort of above the petty crap that New Jersey politics has long been known for. 

 

This is the way a growing number of voters think, and if we do not acknowledge that and choose candidates that can appeal to independent voters, we won't win any more elections.

Posted by: rockmom at March 19, 2014 09:48 AM (NYnoe)

403 new post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 19, 2014 09:51 AM (DmNpO)

404 He bought off his Democratic challenger by calling a special election and giving him a free Senate seat?




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 19, 2014 01:45 PM (kdS6q)

 

Um, no, Booker was never going to run against Christie, that's how they ended up with poor Barbara Buono.  What Christie did with the special election was make sure all those black voters coming out to vote for Booker wouldn't do it on his election day, and got Booker to stay out of his race.  That may have helped him get to that 65%, but not by much.  And Republicans were never going to win that Senate seat. 

Posted by: rockmom at March 19, 2014 09:53 AM (Q4elb)

405 140 Why do we still have NASA? --- By making sure we are unable to do today that which we easily accomplished 50 years ago, they make Muslims feel good about their pitifully small contributions to civilization.

Posted by: whoever at March 19, 2014 09:57 AM (pjMym)

406 the Jersey Whale needs to ESAD...

at least politically.  no way he can win a national election, unless he runs as the Demonrat he is.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 19, 2014 10:02 AM (q+fqH)

407 @406 You're putting people some knowledge again.  You gotta stop doing that.

They want their two minutes' RINO hate, dammit! 

I especially love the grammar police "correcting" my usage of the word "slander" without denying the essential point that Drew was being a douchebag-ish tool toward Thomas Sowell.  Thanks for the grammar lesson, true cons!

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 19, 2014 10:03 AM (uUI8H)

408 Go for another romantic stroll with your BFF Obama you fat fuck. Hey Rinse Prius, you better tell him on the down low not to run. Remember, elephants have long memories, and he's pissed off a lot of them.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at March 19, 2014 10:11 AM (9Bdcz)

409 7 That Medicaid money shrinks every year. It's a Faustian deal, and I shake my head at any pol who accepts expansion. This, in spades. In fact, once the term runs out, there's no reason why the federal money couldn't go to $0 and the states who took the money would now be on the hook for the whole bill. Sadly, Rick Scott tried to take the money, but the legislature said "no". The exact opposite of the Obama monorail handout.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at March 19, 2014 10:11 AM (1hM1d)

410 People love voting for the preferred candidates of people who make fun of other people's weight. Democrats on line 1 for you. Something about "Rush Limbaugh is a fat ass"...

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at March 19, 2014 10:14 AM (1hM1d)

411 Why people who insist that a) they are NOT Republicans and b) will NOT support the Republican nominee if their preferred candidate loses continue to insist on participating in Republican primaries and policy debates is a mystery.

If you believe 95% of elected Republicans are RINOs, remember nearly all of them were elected with most or all of the Republican vote in their state or district, so maybe it is YOU who are the "RINO."

Nobody forces you to be a Republican.  But if you don't want to be a Republican and won't support most Republicans outside your treasured few, why not just stay the heck out of our Party business.  Then you can vote - or not vote - for candidates in the general election as you so choose.

Perhaps you could spend the meantime building your own new, special, "true conservative" party, with your own rules and platforms and candidates.  Instead of just being the turd in the punch bowl in our primaries and conventions.

Posted by: Adjoran at March 19, 2014 10:16 AM (QIQ6j)

412 Didn't he get gastric bypass surgery?  He must be getting around it someone, because he's still be big bag o'shit.

Posted by: Pipeholder at March 19, 2014 10:23 AM (VTeUD)

413
Perhaps you could spend the meantime building your own new, special, "true conservative" party, with your own rules and platforms and candidates. Instead of just being the turd in the punch bowl in our primaries and conventions.

Is that the royal "we", you sycophantic establishment ass?

RINOs have gone full KOS/DU.

Winning hearts and minds.....

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at March 19, 2014 10:25 AM (5ikDv)

414 See, here's where the "big tent" and "run by the party membership" thing comes to be such a big lie. Vote our way or you should leave is the message of the elite GOP mainliners (most of whom have never been seen on this blog before - congressional staffers anyone?).

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 19, 2014 10:26 AM (zfY+H)

415 Come on, MSM, do your job and get rid of this guy. Bridges, whatever. I am tired of him.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Bossy Redneck Queen at March 19, 2014 10:26 AM (baL2B)

416 I have a better idea, why don't you unprincipled moderates just do what you're itching to do and become Democrats? Embrace it, be proud. Then you'll just have Kool Aid in your punchbowl.

Posted by: Bipolar at March 19, 2014 10:29 AM (AzTx0)

417 I also enjoy the two or three people pointing me to Democrat asshole-ery as an excuse for fat jokes about Christie.  Yeah, that's right, we're not supposed to be more adult than the socialists.  We're supposed to be snicking 13-year old girls just like they are.

Hey, true cons, if the "establishment RINO" is in elected office, it isn't because of a grand conspiracy against you true cons.  It's because he won the fucking election.  You know, got more votes than the other candidates. 

Romney was the nominee because he got more votes than the other candidates.  Math, how does it work again?

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at March 19, 2014 10:40 AM (uUI8H)

418 413 Why people who insist that a) they are NOT Republicans and b) will NOT support the Republican nominee if their preferred candidate loses continue to insist on participating in Republican primaries and policy debates is a mystery. ... Perhaps you could spend the meantime building your own new, special, "true conservative" party, with your own rules and platforms and candidates. Instead of just being the turd in the punch bowl in our primaries and conventions. Posted by: Adjoran at March 19, 2014 02:16 PM (QIQ6j) And then whose fault will it be when the Republican nominee goes down in flames, hmm? Certainly not mine, because I'm "NOT a Republican".

Posted by: rickl at March 19, 2014 10:56 AM (zoehZ)

419 Math, how does it work again?

Tell me about it.

Posted by: The vote totals of Mitt, McCain and Dole at March 19, 2014 11:26 AM (YmPwQ)

420

I'm leaving as soon as I can find a decent gig where I want to go.

 

If this is how Northeastern'ers want to live, bon appetit. 

 

But I don't want to be here when the bubble bursts - and it is going to burst like a boil. 

 

People think that Detroit is an abberation, and Flint is "just another Detroit."   They don't talk about New Jersey's sewers: Camden, Newark, Trenton, and the surrounding dead zones.

 

New Jersey gets good press because there is still a LOT of money here.

 

For now.

Posted by: RobM1981 at March 19, 2014 11:28 AM (lV1tZ)

421

I'm not making any jokes about this man's weight, but... wow.

 

POTUS is arguably as stressful a job as exists.  There are a lot of jobs with higher stress, like combat, air traffic control, etc., but they get breaks.  When you're elected POTUS, you're "on" for at least 4 years.

 

When you take breaks, like our current Child In Chief, you get the disaster that we have now.  No, if you do the job properly, it's a grind like no other.

 

I wouldn't vote for Christie if he looked like Romney.  Don't get me wrong, I think he is as liberal as Al Franken...

 

But even if I were inclinded to vote for him, I'd really want to know who his VP candidate was, because I don't know if he could survive 4 years, given his physical shape.

Posted by: RobM1981 at March 19, 2014 11:32 AM (lV1tZ)

422 Dems want to drive us off a cliff at top speed. RINOs like Christie want to do so at moderate speed. A pox on all of them. W want my damn country back.

Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at March 19, 2014 12:07 PM (miAG4)

423 I know politics ain't beanbag, but does everything with Christie have to end in a "heated exchange?" There's a difference between having conviction and calmly, firmly acting on it, and being a hothead who can't countenance the very existence of a differing opinion. It's stooping to conquer, and it's not attractive. In this latter sense he reminds me a lot of some of the obnoxious harpies on the Left.

Posted by: General Zod at March 19, 2014 01:11 PM (2+bRt)

424 Christie?

Another "eat your broccoli & STFU, conservatives!" nominee?

And this one is different from Romney-bot & McPain because...?

Posted by: mnw at March 19, 2014 01:19 PM (P+3u+)

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