January 03, 2014
— Ace There's an old rule in lawyering:
When the facts are on your side, pound the facts.
When the law is on your side, pound the law.
When neither are on your side, pound the table.
Meaning, of course: When your argument is weak you have to turn the proceedings into a carnival, introducing a ton of irrelevant, tendentious claims to confuse the jury.
When a dolt like Chris Hayes has the worst side of an argument, as he frequently does, he resorts to emotional histrionics.
Let's note that no one on the right was cheerleading for the deaths of the "global warming" scientists. In fact, despite Chris Hayes' dishonest attempts to cast the "global warming" scientists as in the clutches of icy death -- and so more heartless were the right for finding mirth in their predicament -- virtually every news story stressed the fact that the team was in no imminent danger whatsoever.
Apparently unlike Chris Hayes, I bothered to read several stories about this incident, and every one of them I read included a paragraph just like this one:
The 22 crew members of the Akademik Shokalskiy stayed with the icebound vessel, which is not in any danger and has enough supplies on board to last for weeks. They will wait until the ice surrounding the ship breaks up, which could take several weeks, ASMA Emergency Response Division manager John Young said.
They were not in peril. They were merely inconvenienced. At worse, they'd be icebound until the ice broke up of its own accord; their own supplies might last that long, but if it got too close for comfort, they could have additional supplies ferried in by helicopter.
Hayes' fancies himself a truth-telling intellectual, but his entire screed is predicated upon a series of lies: 1, that the right was laughing at the plight of the scientists, 2, that there was any plight to laugh at all, and 3, that Obama's birth certificate is real.
I just thought I'd mention that last one to bother him.
And far from making an intellectual case as to why colder weather and thickening ice do not undermine the case for "global warming" (hint: cold is the opposite of warm), he resorts to ridiculous ginned-up nonsense nonsequiturs about people not caring enough for twenty two strangers in no imminent danger who they never heard of before three days ago.
To the extent Chris Hayes has any argument here at all, it is this: These "global warming" scientists are good people are are well meaning and only want to save the world, is all. Therefore, it is evil to say that their theories are wrong.
Which, come to think of it, is pretty much the only arrow in the progressives' argumentative quiver.
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Posted by: artisanal 'ette: wind chill... brrrrr... at January 03, 2014 11:10 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: trainer's looking for a Militia to join... at January 03, 2014 11:10 AM (n4ArD)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 03, 2014 11:10 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: 29Victor at January 03, 2014 11:11 AM (ES9R7)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette: wind chill... brrrrr... at January 03, 2014 11:11 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at January 03, 2014 11:11 AM (080XV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 03, 2014 11:11 AM (JpFMR)
Posted by: Pecan Scandi at January 03, 2014 11:11 AM (cxVzi)
Posted by: m at January 03, 2014 11:12 AM (omrQI)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at January 03, 2014 11:12 AM (t25XY)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 03, 2014 11:12 AM (yE8uc)
Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2014 11:12 AM (Hy7dS)
Posted by: 29Victor at January 03, 2014 11:12 AM (ES9R7)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 03, 2014 11:12 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: nip at January 03, 2014 11:12 AM (jI23+)
Posted by: votermom at January 03, 2014 11:12 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at January 03, 2014 11:13 AM (PgNb6)
Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2014 11:13 AM (t25XY)
"When neither are on your side, pound your co-host's asshole and call it Nirvana" is more apt to be true.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 03, 2014 11:13 AM (TM1p8)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at January 03, 2014 11:13 AM (080XV)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 03, 2014 11:13 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Golfman in. NC at January 03, 2014 11:13 AM (/djtm)
Didn't see that one coming. Well played.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 03, 2014 11:13 AM (lgKVh)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette: wind chill... brrrrr... at January 03, 2014 11:14 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 03, 2014 11:14 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: tbodie at January 03, 2014 11:14 AM (hi657)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 03, 2014 11:14 AM (RFeQD)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 03, 2014 11:14 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette: wind chill... brrrrr... at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (EZNxq)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (70Unk)
The slowing and ending of the Antarctic melt season will come soon.
If they rely only on waiting, it might be the better part of a year before they get that ship out, next melt season. If its hull isn't crushed like a beer can by the thickening ice.
Putin, however, does not do "waiting". He has sent one of the BIG Russian icebreakers south. Double public relations win for him. He can rescue a Russian vessel _and_ a Chinese one at the same time.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Laughing Penguin at January 03, 2014 11:15 AM (t25XY)
Posted by: 29Victor at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (ES9R7)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: m at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (omrQI)
Posted by: t-bird at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Sharkman at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (TM1p8)
Then you have your Polar Weasels.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Kumshtaki Obama at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (1/4XQ)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 03, 2014 11:16 AM (WdbF7)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 03, 2014 11:17 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 03, 2014 11:17 AM (RFeQD)
Posted by: Crow T Robot at January 03, 2014 11:18 AM (t25XY)
Posted by: barack obama as Augustus at January 03, 2014 11:18 AM (4eNxd)
Posted by: Chrissie Hayes at January 03, 2014 11:18 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: maddogg at January 03, 2014 11:18 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at January 03, 2014 11:18 AM (70Unk)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 11:18 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2014 11:19 AM (Hy7dS)
Are you sure that's factual?
The Gore claim I recall was from 2008, not 2007, and it was "within five years".
I know this because I carefully marked my calendar for 2013, on the very day in 2008 I heard Gore on the news saying that.
A small but significant fact-checking action which, by the way, every last single member of the media failed to perform. No "professional journalists" called out Gore on his bullshit. Not a one.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 03, 2014 11:19 AM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at January 03, 2014 11:19 AM (t25XY)
And in the background is a perfectly functional ship, with heat, light, shelter and food.
We went hunting global warming, and were attacked by ice.
Fucktards.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 03, 2014 11:19 AM (GcYmn)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 11:19 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 03, 2014 11:20 AM (g4TxM)
This probably accounts for the proliferation of Polar Weasels.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 03, 2014 11:20 AM (8ZskC)
Better than Maroon 5, Bruno Mars, Katy Perry or Rihanna, which are the only things my top 40 station plays anymore. But yes that song is being played ad nauseum too. Surely she has other singles they could play, but no.
Posted by: LIV puttin you some effin knowledge, YOLO at January 03, 2014 11:20 AM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Fingers at January 03, 2014 11:20 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 03, 2014 11:20 AM (RFeQD)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at January 03, 2014 11:20 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at January 03, 2014 11:20 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 03, 2014 11:21 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Nelson Muntz at January 03, 2014 11:21 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 03, 2014 11:21 AM (Hx5uv)
in summary
1) these cocksuckers are tourists not scientists and they do not respect the environment they went to, and were not properly prepared
2) they are likely to have a bodycount for their frippery
3) these same assholes think they can run the global economy because #caring
4) the media refuses to report the facts in the region there is more ice extant than the voyage from a century ago they are "retracing" and the same id quickly developing on the other pole.
sven
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 11:21 AM (TE35l)
And answer this if you will you smart-alecky wingnuts you...
If extra-cold temps and thickening ice sheet in the antartic SUMMER isn't climate change, what is? Ha! Got you there, didn't I?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 03, 2014 11:21 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 11:21 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: maddogg at January 03, 2014 11:21 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: eman at January 03, 2014 11:22 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2014 11:22 AM (t25XY)
So there.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 03, 2014 11:22 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 03, 2014 11:22 AM (g4TxM)
It's kinda like taking your four wheel drive jeep into the swamp. You know you're going to get stuck, and will need a wrecker to pull it out.
Posted by: Enquiring Mind at January 03, 2014 11:22 AM (FL+QO)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:23 AM (DrWcr)
They decimated the indigenous Polar Bear population in a little under a decade.
Weasel crossbow technology FTW!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 03, 2014 11:23 AM (8ZskC)
I really hate to go o/t so early in the thread. Please, if you're interested, read it after you're done here, so as not to distract from Chris Hayes, whoever he may be.
(Apologies if this has been linked here already today. I was asleep, after working late, and then driving home in the teens-below-zero predawn frigid darkness. Hope my truck starts.)
Posted by: Kumshtaki Obama at January 03, 2014 11:23 AM (1/4XQ)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 03, 2014 11:23 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 11:24 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: MJ at January 03, 2014 11:24 AM (PRPp1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
Posted by: mrp at January 03, 2014 11:24 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at January 03, 2014 11:24 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Chris Hayes at January 03, 2014 11:24 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: MTF at January 03, 2014 11:25 AM (F58x4)
Posted by: maddogg at January 03, 2014 11:25 AM (xWW96)
Correct Antarctica is rapidly approaching peak ice....
and the Arctic is roaring back...
now I am not a smart man, like you know the geniuses who are uh stuck on a rescue boat that is barely moving trying to rescue another rescue boat now but if I didn't know any better I'd say this is indicative of a fucking cycle not a crisis needing to undo western civ.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 11:25 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: WalrusRex
Was busy. Weenter Olympeeks soon. Must kill all terrorists first.
Posted by: Vladimir 'Who's UR Vladdy' Putin [/i] [/b] at January 03, 2014 11:25 AM (dwArK)
Posted by: blue.dot at January 03, 2014 11:25 AM (I8FOK)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 03, 2014 11:25 AM (JpFMR)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2014 11:25 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: eman at January 03, 2014 11:26 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at January 03, 2014 11:26 AM (70Unk)
Posted by: MJ at January 03, 2014 11:26 AM (PRPp1)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 03, 2014 11:26 AM (JpFMR)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Don't Wait to the Last Minute to Purchase that Special Someone a Squabble Set! at January 03, 2014 11:26 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: dogfish at January 03, 2014 11:26 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: Hop Sing, cook and cattle rustler, babysitter and bottle washer. at January 03, 2014 11:26 AM (3wYnT)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at January 03, 2014 11:26 AM (080XV)
Posted by: obamuh at January 03, 2014 11:26 AM (rNS5g)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 03, 2014 11:27 AM (JpFMR)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Theatre Fag at January 03, 2014 11:27 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Meremortal, peering...... at January 03, 2014 11:27 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 03, 2014 11:27 AM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2014 11:27 AM (TKFmG)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at January 03, 2014 11:27 AM (HEa5q)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 11:27 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: MJ at January 03, 2014 11:27 AM (PRPp1)
Can you say "Devonian shales"? Try it, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Posted by: Kumshtaki Obama at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (1/4XQ)
Posted by: Meremortal, peering...... at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Chilly Willy at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (t25XY)
Posted by: tmitsss at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (7Rx8v)
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (70Unk)
Posted by: A bunch of idiots in a boat at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Captain Glenn Quagmire at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (1o4B5)
Posted by: backhoe at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (DrWcr)
They'd never utter a word about global warming again.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2014 11:28 AM (qc7at)
yeah but Jeff technically you and I are demons not "the right"
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 11:29 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 03, 2014 11:29 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: MJ at January 03, 2014 11:29 AM (PRPp1)
My ex-wife could have told them that.
Posted by: Meremortal, peering...... at January 03, 2014 03:28 PM (1Y+hH)
Yowch! Frigidity, she is a bitch.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:29 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 03, 2014 11:29 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: eman at January 03, 2014 11:29 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 11:30 AM (MMC8r)
Just doing my lil' old part to kill the earth with my sinful, wasteful light bulb ways.
Posted by: LIV puttin you some effin knowledge, YOLO at January 03, 2014 11:30 AM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 03, 2014 11:30 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 03, 2014 11:30 AM (WX3R9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 03, 2014 11:30 AM (JpFMR)
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 03, 2014 11:30 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Have a Querulous New Year from the Outrage Outlet at January 03, 2014 11:30 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 03, 2014 11:30 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Joe Biden Your Extra Secret President at January 03, 2014 11:31 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Meremortal, peering...... at January 03, 2014 11:31 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: inconsequential at January 03, 2014 11:31 AM (xBryS)
Posted by: Beagle at January 03, 2014 11:31 AM (sOtz/)
This day is dragging...on...and...on...endlessly...
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:31 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at January 03, 2014 11:32 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Joe Biden Your Extra Secret President at January 03, 2014 11:32 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Hank Johnson at January 03, 2014 11:32 AM (t25XY)
-
Those guys are more like the Heaven's Gate group who cut off their nuts then killed themselves so they could go to the big spaceship in the sky than real scientists.
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 03, 2014 11:32 AM (Hx5uv)
That or Heaven's Gate...except in this case they had media and state funding.
Basically these dumb fucks are the AGW initiates and they were trying to pop their polar cherries to get promoted to Acolytes....
there was in all likelihood no compelling scientific reason for them to be despoiling the environ and putting the crew on a barely certified ship at risk.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 11:32 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 03, 2014 11:32 AM (WX3R9)
GRANT MONEY.
Posted by: Meremortal, peering...... at January 03, 2014 03:31 PM (1Y+hH)
"Antarctica is cold as shit." There, now where's my grant money?
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:32 AM (DrWcr)
Yes. I'm laughing at these stupid fucking people and their stupid fucking global warming. Hoping for death? For a group of freaks that are willingly propagating the biggest and most expensive scam the world has ever seen? A scam that has the potential of killing more people than Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao combined?
I don't know. Please, don't leave that up to me. Let someone else make that call.
Posted by: Soona at January 03, 2014 11:33 AM (XAwim)
Posted by: MJ at January 03, 2014 11:33 AM (PRPp1)
Posted by: Beagle at January 03, 2014 11:33 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 11:33 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2014 11:33 AM (ka6ta)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at January 03, 2014 11:33 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at January 03, 2014 11:33 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Hayabusa at January 03, 2014 11:33 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 03, 2014 11:34 AM (yE8uc)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2014 11:34 AM (qc7at)
Posted by: garrett at January 03, 2014 11:34 AM (t25XY)
Posted by: eman at January 03, 2014 11:34 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 03, 2014 11:34 AM (JpFMR)
Posted by: RWC at January 03, 2014 11:35 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 03, 2014 11:35 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 03, 2014 03:34 PM (JpFMR)
I was fine for the first couple of pics, then completely turtled at the end. Bait and switch bastards.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:36 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: votermom at January 03, 2014 11:36 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: MJ at January 03, 2014 11:36 AM (PRPp1)
Posted by: mrp at January 03, 2014 11:36 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Kumshtaki Obama at January 03, 2014 11:36 AM (1/4XQ)
If there was poetic justice it would be more like this, but I have a feeling the whole experience will be a lot less melty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m83JcNoNQ-4
And yes, they are safe for weeks, and I don't REALLY want them to go Donner on each other. But I do love the sweet, sweet taste of climate fearmonger irony. Tastes like unicorn tears and skittles.
Posted by: LIV puttin you some effin knowledge, YOLO at January 03, 2014 11:36 AM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at January 03, 2014 11:36 AM (yICtd)
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2014 11:36 AM (ka6ta)
Posted by: MJ at January 03, 2014 11:37 AM (PRPp1)
Posted by: fran at January 03, 2014 11:37 AM (rE3vK)
Jesus when
he returns and then no Jesus
First there is a Jesus
Then there is no Jesus
Then there is
Posted by: Donovan at January 03, 2014 11:37 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 03, 2014 11:38 AM (xm1A1)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 03, 2014 11:38 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:38 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2014 11:38 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 11:39 AM (PYAXX)
A cross between a sharknado, the Thing, and a penguin, hunts worldwide for climate scientists and fucks their shit up. Over and over and over. I'd go see it.
Posted by: Fritz at January 03, 2014 11:39 AM (TKFmG)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at January 03, 2014 03:33 PM (naUcP)
Skipper: "Shittake mushrooms! Kowalski, I need options."
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Have a Querulous New Year from the Outrage Outlet at January 03, 2014 11:39 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at January 03, 2014 11:39 AM (yICtd)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 03, 2014 03:38 PM (xm1A1)
I was thinking more like Pajama Boy was the love child of Chris Hayes and Rachael Maddow. There was probably a turkey baster involved, though.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:39 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 03, 2014 11:39 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Auntie M at January 03, 2014 11:40 AM (AIC5Z)
Posted by: MJ at January 03, 2014 11:40 AM (PRPp1)
Posted by: Joe Biden Your Extra Secret President at January 03, 2014 11:40 AM (RJMhd)
Oh I laughed. I'm still laughing. But it was only funny because there was no real danger. If there was danger. I'd wait for them to be saved...Then laugh at them. I've had a few harrowing moments at sea before, I know what that is like. Being stuck in ice with plenty of supplies and a rescue helicopter on speed dial doesn't qualify. Your average fishing boat is in greater risk pretty much every time it goes out.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at January 03, 2014 11:40 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 03, 2014 11:40 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2014 11:40 AM (LA7Cm)
First there is a Jesus
Then there is no Jesus
Then there is
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I saw a guy do sommat like that in NYC with three cups and a red ball.
Posted by: Bigby's Frostbitten Fingers at January 03, 2014 11:40 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2014 11:40 AM (Hy7dS)
The US ExEx expedition of the late 1830's got very close off the Antarctic coast. Wilkesland is named after the expedition's commander.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Exploring_Expedition
Un-powered wood ships...with freaking sails.
I read a book about that expedition a while ago. Fascinating. It put the US on the map as a scientific/exploration power and accomplished more than any other scientific expedition had, in spite of some thorny personal issues with the crew
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at January 03, 2014 11:41 AM (70Unk)
Posted by: Professor Roy Hinkley at January 03, 2014 11:41 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: toby928© sobs quietly, but in a manly manner at January 03, 2014 11:41 AM (QupBk)
I guess we already paid for the deployment, now we get to rescue a Russian vessel - gratis.
Posted by: 13times at January 03, 2014 11:41 AM (fGPLK)
A cross between a sharknado, the Thing, and a penguin, hunts worldwide for climate scientists and fucks their shit up. Over and over and over. I'd go see it.
Posted by: Fritz
Pauly Shore as the lead scientist.
Posted by: mrp at January 03, 2014 11:41 AM (HjPtV)
The animated hunters are:
1) a bald eagle pissed off at the wind turbine genocide
2) a female polar bear pissed off her kids have a complex and are trying to drown themselves
3) the wildly resurgent Coyote gang
4) a timid panda bear who on occasion snaps and sounds like Robert DeNiro in Taxi Driver...
Gold Jerry GOLD!
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 11:42 AM (TE35l)
"when asked about the record setting cold he snarkily replied something like climate scientists call this phenomena winter."
I think most people also call a snowstorm in the northeast "weather", and relatively normal weather when considering the history of the area and the season, but according to our betters is WORST STUFF EVAH! and indicative of climate change. But Mann's got the d-bag hipster snark down, at least, so there's that.
Posted by: LizLem at January 03, 2014 11:42 AM (BF+2f)
Posted by: The Judges at January 03, 2014 11:42 AM (t25XY)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at January 03, 2014 11:42 AM (yICtd)
Posted by:OregonMuse at January 03, 2014 03:38 PM (xm1A1
....I find that concept to be strangely horrifying.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Have a Querulous New Year from the Outrage Outlet at January 03, 2014 11:42 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: The Last Easter Islanders at January 03, 2014 11:42 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 03, 2014 11:42 AM (WX3R9)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 03, 2014 11:43 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2014 11:43 AM (ka6ta)
Posted by: Chris Hayes, Media Matters, AoSHQ Watch, hundreds of others at January 03, 2014 11:43 AM (sXPQf)
during the "mini ice age"...
which is sorta my point you know.....we not only don't know as much as mikey Mann pretends we don't even know what we don't know yet.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 11:43 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 03, 2014 11:43 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:44 AM (DrWcr)
Fuck them. I wanted their boat to sink.
Word.
Posted by: Some Hungry Leopard Seals at January 03, 2014 11:44 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: 13times at January 03, 2014 11:44 AM (fGPLK)
***
You really hit one of my hot buttons there with that. I spend a lot of time outdoors and If I had a dollar for every idiot I've met on a trail in shorts and sandals in terrain where I'm kitted out in Danner boots with a rucksack, I'd be rich.
GROUP OF FOUR CITY GIRLS AND TWO BETA MALE HANGER-ONS IN SANDALS AND SHORTS:"How far is the lovely waterfall on this trail?"
ME: "Um...it's about another four and a half miles and it's an hour until sundown."
GIRLS: "OK-thanks!"
ME: "You do know you're 3,000 feet or more in the Smoky Mountains, right?"
Posted by: B at January 03, 2014 11:44 AM (6iEQd)
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2014 11:44 AM (ka6ta)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 03, 2014 11:45 AM (aDwsi)
Fuck them. I wanted their boat to sink.
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2014 03:43 PM (ka6ta)
We're badasses!
Posted by: Sea Shepherd at January 03, 2014 11:45 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 03, 2014 11:45 AM (JpFMR)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2014 11:45 AM (qc7at)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 11:45 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: garett at January 03, 2014 11:45 AM (t25XY)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 03, 2014 11:46 AM (0m29n)
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at January 03, 2014 11:46 AM (Jye7B)
The fact that you gave Chris (dumb as a bag of hammers) Hayes any playtime probably doubled his viewership from 10 to 20.
The guy has the IQ of a shower curtain.
For those chris hayes fans that got sent here by social media? The fact you hang on his words, breathlessly, makes you dumber than he is. Stone cold stupid.
If that's even possible.
Posted by: tangonine at January 03, 2014 11:46 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: eman at January 03, 2014 11:46 AM (EWsrI)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at January 03, 2014 11:46 AM (yICtd)
Posted by: Beagle at January 03, 2014 11:46 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at January 03, 2014 11:47 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 03, 2014 11:47 AM (7A4qQ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 03, 2014 11:47 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 03, 2014 03:45 PM (PYAXX)
That's about the size of it. Just goes to show it's a cult, not science.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 03, 2014 11:47 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 03, 2014 11:47 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: toby928© sobs quietly, but in a manly manner at January 03, 2014 11:47 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: toby928© sobs quietly, but in a manly manner at January 03, 2014 03:47 PM (QupBk)
They mostly come at night. Mostly.
Posted by: Newt at January 03, 2014 11:48 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: toby928© sobs quietly, but in a manly manner at January 03, 2014 11:48 AM (QupBk)
Yeah, I'm totes going to listen to their lectures on civility, you guys!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2014 11:49 AM (POpqt)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 03, 2014 11:49 AM (WX3R9)
Posted by: Beagle at January 03, 2014 11:49 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 03, 2014 11:50 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 11:50 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 03, 2014 11:50 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: eleven at January 03, 2014 11:51 AM (Hy7dS)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 03, 2014 11:51 AM (aDwsi)
***
That's because it's just another liberal shibboleth for "Western Civilization".
But they can't come out and say that.
Yet.
Posted by: B at January 03, 2014 11:51 AM (6iEQd)
Posted by: Daybrother at January 03, 2014 11:51 AM (iCmPb)
Posted by: --- at January 03, 2014 11:51 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Charles De Mar at January 03, 2014 11:51 AM (t25XY)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 03, 2014 11:52 AM (V3kRK)
The Earth can remove us in a wink....
2 days of a revived St Helens and EPA outlaws plate tectonics...
2 days of yellowstone and they better do it quick b/c there's a die off coming
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 11:52 AM (TE35l)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/mpwnax4
Posted by: BECUZH8ERZ! at January 03, 2014 11:52 AM (RPDkq)
Posted by: B at January 03, 2014 03:44 PM (6iEQd)
We get that all the time out here in Utah. Is the nature here lovely? Yes. But it's a FRIGGIN DESERT. Having to carry and drink drink two quarts of water a day, minimum, sounds like overkill until you are breathing in the desert heat of Moab in summer, the oven-like air sucking the life out of you. Plan accordingly, you cannot call on mother Gaia to save you if things go south, she be a harsh mistress.
Posted by: LizLem at January 03, 2014 11:52 AM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Refresh Data at January 03, 2014 11:52 AM (q+zA9)
Posted by: MJ at January 03, 2014 11:52 AM (PRPp1)
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 03, 2014 11:52 AM (ka6ta)
Only Ecotards and their Democrat enablers could make me cheer for the French and the Russians.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 11:53 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 03, 2014 11:53 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 03, 2014 11:53 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: DaveinNC at January 03, 2014 11:53 AM (boNGU)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 03, 2014 11:53 AM (aDwsi)
2 days of a revived St Helens and EPA outlaws plate tectonics...
2 days of yellowstone and they better do it quick b/c there's a die off coming
Soon.
Posted by: The H5N1 Virus at January 03, 2014 11:53 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 03, 2014 11:53 AM (XLoA6)
Posted by: Marcus at January 03, 2014 11:53 AM (LBwuv)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 03, 2014 11:54 AM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Dean Yager [/i] [/b] at January 03, 2014 11:54 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 03, 2014 11:54 AM (qc7at)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 03, 2014 11:54 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: President Choad-Load at January 03, 2014 11:54 AM (BUvIM)
By the by, what "science" were these bozos up to anyway? I understand they were trying to re-create a historic voyage of Douglas Mawson. Is that science? 24 people on board were paying tourists, not scientists. Is that science? Most of the "science" they say they are doing sounds like bullshit to me - the kind of things you might do to impress gullible tourists on the voyage with you. Taking readings, lowering probes. Let me guess, they let lose a few weather ballons to "gauge" windspeed at various altitudes, because, you know, SCIENCE!
Let's face it - this was simply public relations stunt/funding grab that went badly wrong.
Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at January 03, 2014 11:55 AM (Jye7B)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 03, 2014 11:55 AM (JpFMR)
If there is less ice, then that's because of global warming
If there is MOAR ice, then that too is because of global warming.
Have they ever been pinned down to what would disprove global warming ? They are 'scientists'.. surely they know about a null hypothesis ?
Posted by: McCool at January 03, 2014 11:55 AM (i6YZc)
They decimated the indigenous Polar Bear population in a little under a decade.
Ankle bites don't heal when your upto your ass in a snowdrift. Ankle biters do continue to regulate even frozen solid however.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 03, 2014 11:55 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at January 03, 2014 11:55 AM (yICtd)
Posted by: chiefjaybob at January 03, 2014 11:55 AM (QwmgZ)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 03, 2014 03:53 PM (7ObY1)
THERE IS NO MATH HERE BRO
Posted by: Mr Sensa tiv at January 03, 2014 11:56 AM (q+zA9)
-
Hillary! stupid, evil, and ugly? AGW.
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 03, 2014 11:56 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 03, 2014 11:56 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 03, 2014 11:56 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 03, 2014 11:56 AM (POpqt)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at January 03, 2014 03:53 PM (0HooB)
That just reminded me of a riddle from Young Sherlock Holmes. You live in a house with an all southern view, and a bear passes by your window. What color is the bear?
Posted by: LizLem at January 03, 2014 11:56 AM (BF+2f)
The Russian crew can survive for months on vodka alone, so there's that.
Posted by: 13times at January 03, 2014 11:57 AM (fGPLK)
"toursists"
and
"journalists"
Which made up 65% of the passengers.
Dots. Connect them.
This was bullshit being caught in the grasp of nature calling bullshit. That's it. No more, no less.
Posted by: tangonine at January 03, 2014 11:57 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 03, 2014 03:50 PM (ZPrif)
----------------------------------------------
If they want to give their lives for a leftist, totalitarian-driven cause, then, by all means, let them die.
Posted by: Soona at January 03, 2014 11:57 AM (XAwim)
***
Who you gonna believe? Me or a metric fuckton of news articles, interviews, press releases and computer model hysteria over two decades?
Seriously, fuck this idiot. We've got temps here rivaling fucking Mars, the sun has gone "quiet", and we're supposed to still hiss at a guy driving a big gas guzzler SUV.
Posted by: B at January 03, 2014 11:57 AM (6iEQd)
@amandacarpenter
CQ: WH will "clarify that guns should be denied to those who have been involuntarily committed to outpatient mental health treatment"
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 03, 2014 11:58 AM (dwArK)
Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 03, 2014 11:58 AM (JSmUP)
Posted by: Havedash at January 03, 2014 11:58 AM (gvqyH)
Posted by: toby928© sobs quietly, but in a manly manner at January 03, 2014 11:58 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Beagle at January 03, 2014 11:58 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 03, 2014 11:58 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: m at January 03, 2014 11:59 AM (omrQI)
Does anyone care to ask Pajama Boy II if their lives were in so much peril why did the crew not abandon ship and be rescued?
Posted by: Cheri at January 03, 2014 11:59 AM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at January 03, 2014 11:59 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Daybrother at January 03, 2014 11:59 AM (2xzHn)
I´m not laughing. I am hoping they die a slow cold death for the stupidity they cling to in order to further enslave me to the lies of the leviathan state. I am angry, and the anger will not be sated by the deserved suffering and posible death of these fools.
Where is Captain Hate when he is so in need...
Posted by: Minuteman at January 03, 2014 12:00 PM (C9gyC)
Think of the lunch money beatdowns. Probably missed out on like.. I dunno... $83?
/sigh
Posted by: tangonine at January 03, 2014 12:00 PM (x3YFz)
A glacier encroaching on Yonkers might do it.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at January 03, 2014 12:00 PM (70Unk)
Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate!' at January 03, 2014 12:00 PM (yICtd)
What we might be able to do is harvest them....
boy that would suck wouldn't it...
creating a canal system to irrigate the near polar deserts?
Rudimentary terraforming baby steps?
Nah that shit is for pussies let's outlaw lightbulbs!
I think we gave up in 1972 on a lot of what made us great.
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 12:00 PM (TE35l)
They are all pampered scientist/tourists; the worst thing that can happen to them is shuffleboard being canceled on the lido deck. But we will hear about their harrowing journey forever. Publicity is wasted on the wrong people.
Posted by: LizLem at January 03, 2014 12:01 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 12:01 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Wodun at January 03, 2014 12:01 PM (fbqZE)
Cartoon mockery. You know someone would do one with the penguins standing there saying "fucking pussies" as the last chopper leaves.
Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/s] at January 03, 2014 12:03 PM (70Unk)
Posted by: Wodun at January 03, 2014 04:01 PM (fbqZE)
Nope. He just went into a seizure over some 45 year old white guy in Louisiana who came home from running a backhoe for 18 hours. Evidently, it's that dude's fault.
Posted by: tangonine at January 03, 2014 12:07 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Purp at January 03, 2014 04:03 PM (70Unk)
Hah! Good lord that was pretty damn funny.
Posted by: tangonine at January 03, 2014 12:08 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 03, 2014 12:11 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Cheri at January 03, 2014 12:13 PM (G+Wff)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 03, 2014 12:14 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Ben Ghazi at January 03, 2014 12:15 PM (g0vXX)
Posted by: jb at January 03, 2014 12:15 PM (3tdHf)
Posted by: theBuckWheat at January 03, 2014 12:16 PM (nmcha)
Posted by: Captain Ned at January 03, 2014 12:21 PM (i+Fm3)
Posted by: Buffalobob at January 03, 2014 12:36 PM (RZBmV)
For God's sake, take care of our people.
It seems a pity, but I don't feel I can write any more.
Posted by: Robert Falcon Scott at January 03, 2014 12:37 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 03, 2014 12:40 PM (7mQyC)
Something like 15% of the world's icebreaker capacity is now involved in coddling these mewling quims. Were you to inform me that somewhere else, real men are dying for the lack of them, I might become quite angry.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 03, 2014 12:42 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Mt Top Patriot at January 03, 2014 12:43 PM (ZqoVw)
http://tinyurl.com/9grqy42
Stacey Dash
ooooooo
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 03, 2014 03:36 PM (BZAd3)
Now there's something that could melt the ice and get that Russian ship freed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 03, 2014 12:44 PM (8Fl6F)
Posted by: Auntie M at January 03, 2014 12:45 PM (AIC5Z)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at January 03, 2014 12:50 PM (VAche)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2014 12:55 PM (lZBBB)
But isn't this pretty much MSNBC's entire business plan?
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 03, 2014 01:08 PM (xm1A1)
Posted by: Chelsea Danger at January 03, 2014 01:18 PM (mHol2)
Remember, these stories are written by people who have NO idea of what is going on... they are parroting what they are told...
Now.... if the Ships remain Ice bound... they will fly the Greenys off to their nice Warm offices somewhere...
While parts of the crew winter over to try to save the ship.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 03, 2014 04:55 PM (lZBBB)
Hang on. What's the hottest month in the Northern hemisphere? August, usually, right? So, in the Southern Hemisphere, it will continue to get hotter until maybe late February. There is quite a lag between the longest day at the solstice, and the hottest period of the summer. Probably at least a month worth of melting yet to happen.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 03, 2014 01:29 PM (8Fl6F)
AOP I'd put it at 14-21 days max of sustained climbing temps that hold long enough to make it break....
getting all those days is very subject to the winds and weather.
"we'll see"
Posted by: Sven10077 at January 03, 2014 01:40 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: PJ at January 03, 2014 01:42 PM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: Iowa Jim at January 03, 2014 01:54 PM (f416i)
I have no ill will toward climate do-gooders. Their media running dogs on the other hand, I hope to see spend their golden years living in an appliance crate, cold, hungry, and alone.
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 03, 2014 02:04 PM (fb100)
Posted by: rickl at January 03, 2014 02:37 PM (sdi6R)
But what I'm not laughing about is that real science being done by real scientists elsewhere on the continent that actually are there for research and observation over the long haul is not going to get done because of the diversion of those two ships from their primary tasks. Diverted to save people that claim they got "real science" done in a few days.
BTW when the helicopter came in to pick up the bone heads it brought supplies to supplement what the crew already had. Helicopter lands, supplies taken off, a load of bone heads get on.
Posted by: RAH at January 03, 2014 02:43 PM (qx1UM)
Posted by: T at January 03, 2014 03:01 PM (5/+j3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 03, 2014 03:55 PM (ShvtX)
I await the arrival of Aurora Australis at Hobart because I would not be surprised to see a scene of the bone heads and their fearless leader acting like they are some kind of heros when they disembark. IOW I anticipate there just may be another good laugh coming. But I am probably expecting too much since this fiasco has pretty much been such a hoot already.
Posted by: RAH at January 03, 2014 04:21 PM (qx1UM)
Posted by: halodoc at January 03, 2014 06:31 PM (Fzbp3)
Posted by: John Cunningham at January 03, 2014 06:34 PM (16DBb)
Posted by: torabora at January 03, 2014 09:07 PM (1jp4v)
"With record cold coming, it is imperative that climate lovers do not use any fossil fuels or burning wood to keep warm. Climate experts tell us these fuels cause life-threatening warming."
________________________________________________
My friends and I agree that all progressives should go all step outside about 01:00 Monday morning and get naked and take a cold shower to show their support for Climate Change initiatives. Don't know if that would help the climate or not but I'm pretty sure it would do the environment the rest of us live in some good.
Posted by: RAH at January 04, 2014 05:22 AM (qx1UM)
I understand the ship is Soviet. I see no problem, communists are used to doing nothing. They will be right at home. Long, long periods of doing nothing.
Posted by: burt at January 05, 2014 08:25 AM (1+kJ5)
Of some note:
Obama, Lt. for life John F. Kerry, bad computer code Michael Mann all had better be on the look out , they may end up "Iceboated" by facts and truth.
trade mark of "Iceboated" by poster taxfreekiller on here and under other unknown nicks on other blogs.
Posted by: taxfreekiller at January 05, 2014 08:33 AM (XLlwo)
Lt. for Life John F. Kerry is the worst thing to ever happen to the Climate Change Fraud gangs work, he is such a bad liar he will end their little tax payer funded life due to the total fail he always is, "go Kerry, wreck it like you do so well",
thanks
Posted by: taxfreekiller at January 05, 2014 08:46 AM (XLlwo)
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