January 09, 2014
— Ace On FoxNews. I've come in late but I'm told he's been forceful. He fired his deputy chief of staff, the one at the heart of the scandal, and says he's continued to think the bridge closings were a traffic study (as they had been claimed to be) until yesterday.
I pointed this out on the podcast last night (which will be available later): Many people are taking the giggling about problems for Fort Lee as proof the closings were politically motivated. That's actually a stolen base which hasn't been earned yet: It's still possible this was indeed a traffic study, and some highly partisan aides giggled over the problems it would cause for a Mayor they didn't like.
That is: Sometimes there is a legitimate reason to do something. For example, let's say you're President, and you've decided to open the Yucca Flats nuclear waste depository. But let's say the Governor of Nevada is a complainer and a political opponent. You'd have every valid policy reason to open the Flats depository, and yet some aides might giggle about the political problems this causes the annoying liberal governor of Nevada. The aides might even say things like "Let's start makin' the Geiger counters redline."
Update: Christie says he fired Bridget Kelly over the Bridge matter, because it was clear that she "lied" to him. He did not fire a second man, but "asked him to move on," because the "color and character" of the remarks made in the emails and texts caused him to lose all confidence in his judgment.
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Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 09, 2014 07:37 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 09, 2014 07:37 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: John W. at January 09, 2014 07:37 AM (PVBzL)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 07:37 AM (kqGWM)
The question is moot. It's a scandal now and he's got to crush it.
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 07:38 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 09, 2014 07:38 AM (yrohn)
Posted by: First Base at January 09, 2014 07:38 AM (fqXPm)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 07:38 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 07:38 AM (FciyD)
Sounded a lot different than:
"These were problems that we inherited from the previous administration."
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 09, 2014 07:38 AM (BZAd3)
Damn, works for just about anything.
Posted by: huerfano at January 09, 2014 07:38 AM (bAGA/)
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 07:39 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Cherlie Gibson at January 09, 2014 07:39 AM (ihRMJ)
Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 09, 2014 07:39 AM (YmPwQ)
I rate Christie's performance at his presser: 9.3
Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 11:39 AM (gYIst)
On the Richter Scale?
Posted by: Vortex Lovera at January 09, 2014 07:39 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 09, 2014 07:39 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 09, 2014 07:40 AM (F85AX)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 07:40 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 09, 2014 07:40 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: noone, really at January 09, 2014 11:39 AM (5ikDv)
[Shrugs] Maybe she was in charge of caring about that and he just assumed that she was doing her job. This doesn't really bother me -- subordinates work on things that their bosses don't worry about.
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 07:40 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 07:40 AM (FciyD)
Simultaneously:
The left praises the everloving shit out of Obama for using politics to intentionally cause pain.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 09, 2014 07:40 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 09, 2014 07:40 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at January 09, 2014 07:41 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 09, 2014 07:41 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 07:41 AM (NKBxV)
Oh well.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 07:41 AM (tlwVg)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 09, 2014 07:41 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: steevy at January 09, 2014 07:41 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 09, 2014 07:42 AM (yrohn)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 09, 2014 07:42 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 07:42 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Arbucklegate at January 09, 2014 07:42 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 07:42 AM (kqGWM)
I was gonna say 'Yeah, this' but flyover-country proggs are trained like seals to bark whenever NY Media waves fish.
Posted by: HR at January 09, 2014 07:42 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 07:42 AM (NKBxV)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 07:42 AM (ZPrif)
Hate to say it, but the way he's handling it is EXACTLY what the money men in the party want to see.
They'll cream themselves, then start writing checks.
Congrats, Krispy, you just distinguished yourself in ways the milquetoast mediocres you'll be competing against cannot.
Krispy will be the R nominee in '16. Bank on it.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 07:42 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 07:43 AM (FciyD)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 09, 2014 11:41 AM (f9c2L)
If there is any weight to that slant, then what Christie did was the same thing Clinton would do in an instant - destroy someone's life.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 09, 2014 07:43 AM (BZAd3)
...........
This is more akin to the IRS scandal that was run right out of the White House with Obama saying "Wha? I knew nothing about this and it's shameful! shameful, I tells ya!"
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 09, 2014 07:43 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 09, 2014 07:43 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at January 09, 2014 11:41 AM (oDCMR)
Maybe Cuomo is acting as Queequeg to Hillary's Ahab.
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 07:43 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 09, 2014 07:43 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 09, 2014 07:43 AM (F85AX)
Posted by: steevy at January 09, 2014 11:41 AM (zqvg6)
Well, he certainly casts a large shadow over the political landscape...
Posted by: Vortex Lovera at January 09, 2014 07:44 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 09, 2014 07:44 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Plaintiff Pug at January 09, 2014 07:44 AM (Qev5V)
Posted by: ace at January 09, 2014 07:44 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 09, 2014 07:44 AM (yrohn)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 07:44 AM (FciyD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 09, 2014 07:45 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 11:42 AM (TOk1P)
Then the GOP is screwed, yet again.
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 07:45 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: RWC at January 09, 2014 07:45 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 07:45 AM (NKBxV)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 09, 2014 07:45 AM (F85AX)
Better now than later. Christie is not GOP presidential material, I don't care what the polls say/have said or what his stances are on critical issues. It's better he flame out now and let the GOP find a better candidate.
He was propped up by the MSM for a reason: to make it easier to take him down when running against Hillary! in 2016. I think the MSM struck a little to early with this one, which helps the GOP in the long run.
Posted by: MacGruber at January 09, 2014 07:45 AM (S+el1)
//Christie 2016
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 07:46 AM (TE35l)
I don't care for Christie, but in this interview he was the anti-Democrat.
He didn't hurt himself unless there really was a traffic study in which case he didn't hurt himself with Dems.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 09, 2014 07:46 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: ace at January 09, 2014 07:46 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at January 09, 2014 07:46 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at January 09, 2014 07:46 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 07:46 AM (FciyD)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 07:47 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Tony253 at January 09, 2014 07:47 AM (PryWG)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 09, 2014 07:47 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: X at January 09, 2014 07:47 AM (KHo8t)
After all, if he wanted to close a couple of lanes, all he had to do was stand in the roadway...
Posted by: Vortex Lovera at January 09, 2014 07:47 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 09, 2014 07:48 AM (yrohn)
The main thing this really shows is that Gov Donut's staff is a bunch of idiots. Leaving an email trail subject to FOIA and supoena? Amateur hour.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 09, 2014 07:48 AM (TIIx5)
Posted by: John Edwards at January 09, 2014 07:48 AM (F85AX)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 09, 2014 07:48 AM (+lsX1)
Posted on Facebook yesterday by a leftie Obamanaut with regard to Christie, without the slightest trace of irony:
"So now it is just a question of whether he is an incompetent
administrator that has an unsupervised chief of staff using his name to
endanger the public, or whether he was a criminal conspirator."
Posted by: Wilford Brimley's Practically Perfect Piercing at January 09, 2014 07:48 AM (vgIRn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 09, 2014 07:48 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Wilford Brimley's Practically Perfect Piercing at January 09, 2014 07:48 AM (vgIRn)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 09, 2014 07:48 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 09, 2014 07:49 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 09, 2014 07:49 AM (0FSuD)
Compare and contrast the media interest in this to the, IRS, Fast and Furious, Benghazi etc.
Traffic jam, hell you would think he killed the pope the way they are acting.
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 09, 2014 07:49 AM (nTgAI)
The media's got their licks in and will file this away for 2016 pretending they are fair arbiters.
We are expected to gush and embrace him for his Trumanian like "Buck Stops Here" Stoicism.
Hillary! beats Chrispy the media rejoices....
fin
I ain't following the script, he threw staffers under the bus.
That is 1st base not home.
He never once apologized for his error in judgement in having staff that do not take their job as an exercise in duty more than power.
*That* is his job, it is also Barry's job but expecting that oversight from the US Media is like thinking I can do the loaves and fishes trick with a 3 dollar gift certificate for McDonald's....
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 07:50 AM (TE35l)
Except for: ""They are the children of Buono voters."
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at January 09, 2014 07:50 AM (mYm3B)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 07:50 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Son of Liberty at January 09, 2014 07:50 AM (BPKIW)
Posted by: Erg at January 09, 2014 07:50 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 07:51 AM (Y92Nd)
"The main thing this really shows is that Gov Donut's staff is a bunch of idiots. Leaving an email trail subject to FOIA and supoena? Amateur hour."
That's what I'm curious about. These weren't government email accounts. They were private yahoo and google accounts. Can the government demand FOIA of even a government employees private emails? or were these leaked? How did they get the emails??
Posted by: JDW at January 09, 2014 07:51 AM (MofJb)
Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 07:51 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 07:51 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 09, 2014 07:51 AM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 07:52 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 07:52 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 09, 2014 07:52 AM (yrohn)
Posted by: Cuhhhsin at January 09, 2014 07:52 AM (mBVaZ)
Posted by: doug at January 09, 2014 07:52 AM (uJ8q7)
Posted by: Plaintiff Pug at January 09, 2014 07:52 AM (Qev5V)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 07:52 AM (kqGWM)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 07:52 AM (Y92Nd)
In a sane world, his career would be over. We don't have that, so who knows.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 11:38 AM (naUcP)
Come on, everybody does it. It's politics.
He's going against hillary. She's probably got two van loads of oppo research on him. It's all going to go away now to make him think he's won. And then a couple of days before the election it's all going to come back and viola hillary wins.
Whatever it is, Romney knew it too. He surprised everyone who was so sure he'd be taking Christie and took Paul Ryan instead.
Posted by: think at January 09, 2014 07:53 AM (OroYa)
Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 09, 2014 11:38 AM (yrohn)
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It may be gone but it will never be forgotten. Before he leaves the podium the footage of this presser will be cut, spiced, and edited into at least a dozen attack ads that the DNC will file away for the appropriate moment.
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 09, 2014 07:53 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 07:53 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 07:53 AM (FciyD)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 09, 2014 07:54 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Chas at January 09, 2014 07:54 AM (16qSK)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (DmNpO)
Who knew?!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 11:52 AM (DmNpO)
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Kinda related..... minor headline on Drudge states that NBC will "try not to be a PR tool" while at Sochi.
Guess there are SOME commies the press DOESNT like.....
Posted by: fixerupper at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (Y92Nd)
Nice job of giving the media Shiny Stuff to distract us all from Choom Boy, ya Fat Joisey Fock.
Brian Williams was practically drooling last night as he chronicled the political demise of the Republicans' Biggest Hope for 2016.
Meanwhile, President Historic First© and his co-conspirators keep rollin' along....
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (ff7/5)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (9CBig)
CNN's Banfield: Christie Scandal Could Mean 'Felony Murder'
ChargesBanfield was addressing the report that a 91 year-old woman's ambulance ride was delayed due to the lane closures. The report also says the woman did not die as a result of the delay.
Banfield is only the most extreme example of how giddy CNN and the rest of the media are over this scandal. This kind of hysterical overreach is now the norm when the media is hunting someone down to benefit their left-wing agenda.
By this afternoon CNN will have doctored tape of Christie cutting the woman's throat
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: doug at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (uJ8q7)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (kqGWM)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (+6LJ7)
Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 09, 2014 07:55 AM (yrohn)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 07:56 AM (DmNpO)
The whole "a woman died because of it" seems like a real bank shot to me. If a high profile politician makes a fundraising visit, and a road closes for security, and a 90+ year old dies in ambulance because it took slightly longer to get to the hospital (and later died in a hospital) are you really going to blame the fundraiser on someone dying?
It was an obvious abuse of power, and the people were immediately fired when it came to light. Personally, I think Christie was a ticking time bomb anyway, but this scandal seems incredibly overblown to me.
If you want to take out Christie, say what your real issue with him is (like gun control or amnesty) not this feeding frenzy that seems to be for the benefit of the Clintons.
Posted by: McAdams at January 09, 2014 07:56 AM (XU2Z0)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 07:56 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Erg at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: nip at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (jI23+)
Not a Christie fan at all, but it might be nice to have someone on our side for a change who plays the game that way.
Posted by: tsj017 at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (4YUWF)
BlackMinorcaPullets
Why should Fort Lee be Traffic Exempt?
Everyone else has to wait in line for a mile or more and yet they get a third of the lanes right in the front row. If anything, they have been favored by previous administrations with what amounts to their own personal interchange Rt 80 - just a few dozen feet from the toll booths where none of them follow any traffic rules.
BlackMinorcaPullets
Google map these coordinates 40.854127,-73.966546 and notice that Ft Lee has their own private entrance to a toll booth that backs up for miles!
Is there any other such private entrance for an interstate highway for the only bridge to a major city?
Plus the Ft Lee cars will cut across 4 or more lanes, reaching into nearly half of the toll booths that have to pass all the traffic for Rt 80.
It is a mad house, no man's land that should have been ended a long time ago.
Hurray for getting rid of this traffic nightmare.
There's also a comment showing what a "speed trap" sort of town Fort Lee is that I'll just link in my sock as it's a bit longer than the above quotes.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (PK+r9)
If his adminstration did something this stupid and vindictive you can bet that there will be more revelations to come.
Christie is an utterly self-interested vindictive sh--. His administration 's behavior here is perfectly consistent with his character. That is no accident.
There will be more.
Posted by: Brian at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (Hd5n8)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (PYAXX)
So.... the pundits are saying my choice in 2016 is a Democratic that is unafraid to use the levers of power in government to punish those that disagree...... and a Republican that is unafraid to use the levers of power in government to punish those that disagree.
Swell.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: doug at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (uJ8q7)
That would be worth posting on a blog, if you had one!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 07:57 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 09, 2014 07:58 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: ace at January 09, 2014 07:58 AM (/FnUH)
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2014 07:58 AM (xWEXA)
Oh, well...
Posted by: AllenG
Whaaa? You mean not insulting and not pissing on a base of supporters is a good idea? Huh. So crazy it just might work.
...
Yeah, I'm kind of stumped why conservatives like the TEA party are chastised by our GOP betters for not being very persuasive when the GOP's presumptive nominees are addicted to insulting the base. Mike Murphy, GOP consultant extraordinaire, summed it up as, "Well, whatcha gonna do? Vote for the other guys?"
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 07:58 AM (tlwVg)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 09, 2014 07:58 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 07:58 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Fat Christie at January 09, 2014 07:59 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 07:59 AM (FciyD)
>>I liked having CC as the "frontrunner" because it takes heat ff the candidates I like. Now while CC is laid low for a while, they'll move on to others such as Rand.<<
Agreed. He's like a big - really big - red herring at the moment. I actually hope he continues to toy with the nomination to keep the Eye of Sauron fixated on him while more appealing GOP candidates build their campaign without having to fight the MSM at the same time.
Posted by: MacGruber at January 09, 2014 07:59 AM (S+el1)
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 07:59 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:00 AM (Y92Nd)
It doesn't matter. He has too many enemies -- on the Left, who rightfully fear him as the only person who can potentially stop the Hillary Express, and the Right, as the person who can potentially falsify their maximalist theses -- for this to be anything other than hugely damaging. Too many people want him politically dead for their own reasons for truth to out here.
Of course, if he's actually lying and he did order/okay this shit for petty political purposes, then fuck him. I wouldn't support him if that were the case. I just don't think he's either that venal or that stupid. I DO think his aides are perfectly capable of behaving like that, however.
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 09, 2014 08:00 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 48 days until spring training at January 09, 2014 08:00 AM (u8GsB)
ChargesBanfield was addressing the report that a 91 year-old woman's ambulance ride was delayed due to the lane closures. The report also says the woman did not die as a result of the delay.
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Makes me wonder how long reporters were scouring hospital records for people who a) were on the bridge at any point during the day and b) died at some point.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 09, 2014 08:00 AM (eytER)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 09, 2014 08:00 AM (zDsvJ)
Like I said before, isn't it amazing how one politician with national responsibilities can get away with using the Internal Revenue Service to stifle opposition, while another politician with local responsibilities can't get away with causing a fucking traffic jam?
Maybe we should take another look at Billy Jeff's LAX haircut?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 09, 2014 08:00 AM (Xq2WY)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 08:00 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Libertarian Buddha at January 09, 2014 08:01 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 08:01 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 12:00 PM (ZPrif)
When compared to McCain, McConnell, Graham, etc.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 09, 2014 08:01 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:02 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 08:02 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 09, 2014 08:02 AM (U1Tts)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 08:02 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 08:02 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 08:02 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: NJ Traffic Engineer at January 09, 2014 08:02 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2014 08:02 AM (xWEXA)
Posted by: Libertarian Buddha at January 09, 2014 08:02 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: AnnaS at January 09, 2014 08:03 AM (UN0/t)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 09, 2014 08:03 AM (+lsX1)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 08:03 AM (NKBxV)
Except in this case just watch as it's gleefully embraced not just on the Left but in certain quarters of the Right as well. Any weapon at hand, and all that.
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 09, 2014 08:04 AM (ewYO6)
It was Hillary's aide, Queerqueer.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 09, 2014 08:04 AM (PK+r9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 08:04 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:04 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 09, 2014 08:05 AM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 09, 2014 08:05 AM (PYAXX)
They will shake his confidence now, maybe cow him a bit for a while, and then when he gets his nerve back up to start talking about 2016.... WHAM!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 11:55 AM (DmNpO)
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This.
And since the GOP always lets the DNC pick their presidential candidate this whole incident will magically disappear and Christie will enjoy a wonderful rebound in the press.
A rebound that will end the moment he accepts the GOP nomination when a second shoe will fall and this scandal will re-materialize.
The pattern is the same- it happens election after election.
After a while the whole thing gets to be like watching Road Runner cartoons
Posted by: Nighthawk at January 09, 2014 08:05 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 09, 2014 08:05 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 08:05 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: MacGruber at January 09, 2014 08:05 AM (S+el1)
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Posted by: acat at January 09, 2014 08:05 AM (4UkCP)
Posted by: JEM at January 09, 2014 08:06 AM (o+SC1)
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Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 12:02 PM (RD7QR)
What's sad is we had a nominee that would never have any reason to have to be nimble and quick on his feet to answer less than honorable charges against him. The country rejected that in favor of a corrupt fuck who is neither nimble or quick on his feet. Thanks press.
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 08:06 AM (m2CN7)
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Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 08:07 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 09, 2014 08:08 AM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:08 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 09, 2014 08:08 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2014 08:08 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:08 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 08:08 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 08:09 AM (kqGWM)
Christie's best defense may be immediate gender re-assignment surgery.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, Mrs. Christie Chris.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 09, 2014 08:09 AM (eytER)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
Yes, 'beached' if you will.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 08:09 AM (tlwVg)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 11:52 AM (ZPrif)
Sure...
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 09, 2014 08:09 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:09 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 09, 2014 08:09 AM (0cMkb)
Mighty big words coming from a Jon Huntsman supporter.
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 09, 2014 08:10 AM (ewYO6)
What's that Jeff?
You think it's shitty the right-wing of the party would respond to Joisey fucking Buddah clubbing us with the media to pay his fucking ass back?
Yeah sorry I am not sorry.
Live by the media die by the media....
I keep on wondering why the scolds on twitter are demanding I not defend Christie?
He is not my boy he is the medias.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:10 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 09, 2014 08:10 AM (Y5I9o)
>>But this is just the beginning. He has not been eliminated. He has just been laid low.<<
The media's fixation with this story is to build enough ammo to use against Christie if he becomes the GOP 2016 nominee.
That's why the media says next to nothing about Hillary's! corporate speaking gigs at places like Goldman Sachs. They can't have the Democratic nominee hob-nobbing and making a lot of money off of Wall Street; they just spent eight years vilifying Wall Street and linking them to the GOP.
Posted by: MacGruber at January 09, 2014 08:10 AM (S+el1)
Posted by: GOP Washington insider... at January 09, 2014 08:10 AM (lZBBB)
Huh. Who knew you could do that?
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 09, 2014 12:06 PM (VtjlW)
Like I said on the previous thread, the fired aide probably already has a no-show job at the Chris Cristie Institute for the Study of Pork Ribs in Government, because New Jersey.
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 08:10 AM (RD7QR)
He promised 1) Free Shit and 2) he would destroy people the Free Shit Army don't like.
No amount of integrity or competence is going to outweigh the promise of Free Shit and Punish Your Enemies.
Posted by: HR at January 09, 2014 08:10 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: --- at January 09, 2014 08:11 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 12:08 PM (zOTsN)
Yes.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 09, 2014 08:11 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:11 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Roy at January 09, 2014 08:11 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 48 days until spring training at January 09, 2014 08:11 AM (u8GsB)
Cut, Jib, Newsletter.
I'll give CodeName Fat Bastard every bit the aid he gave Romney.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:11 AM (TE35l)
My first choice is Rand Paul, my only fear with him is he's going to have to learn to talk to people who aren't ideologues. He'll deliver the base.
Posted by: McAdams at January 09, 2014 08:12 AM (XU2Z0)
Posted by: GOP Washington insider... at January 09, 2014 08:12 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 09, 2014 12:07 PM (U1Tts)
You sarcasm does not dispose of the fact that honesty and integrity was Romney's strong point and no one can take that away from him.
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 08:12 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:13 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Duncan Donut at January 09, 2014 08:14 AM (DrC22)
You think it's shitty the right-wing of the party would respond to Joisey fucking Buddah clubbing us with the media to pay his fucking ass back?
If an accusation is true, or at least preponderantly likely to be true (by some standard other than "I just don't like that guy, he's totally capable of anything"), then you attack a person with it.
If it's not, then you don't.
I apply that same standard to every politician, from any party, across the political spectrum. I don't believe in cynically using a lie to advance my own private cause. I don't give a shit that other people have done that successfully. I make no claim to special virtue or anything -- and because I'm just "some random guy" I've never really had to put myself in a position where my principles would be tested -- but I do believe in this. You don't have to, it's alright. But I do. That is all.
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 09, 2014 08:14 AM (ewYO6)
Christie's best defense may be immediate gender re-assignment surgery.
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Ladies and Gentlemen, Mrs. Christie Chris.
Posted by: @JohnTant at January 09, 2014 12:09 PM (eytER)
Well, he's accustomed to not being able to see his dick so he's already mentally prepared.
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 08:15 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 09, 2014 08:15 AM (U1Tts)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 08:15 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:15 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 09, 2014 08:15 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 09, 2014 08:15 AM (RFeQD)
So what did Mr. Smart Guy Christie and his staff not know about what would happen if you closed traffic lanes leading to the GWB that needed a study? After living in New Jersey all their lives.
This is bullshit and people are buying it because they want. The arguments I'm seeing advanced to defend Christie online are the same one that were advanced to defend Obama over the IRS. What does that tell about Christie, his staff, their supporters and their conduct?
So Christie talks tough to reporters. Big deal. If talking tough to reporters meant anything Spiro Agnew would have been President. Christie is just a blustering bully the BosWash GOP thinks will appeal to the morlocks in the flyover states, which just goes to confirm the national GOP understands nothing about anything west of the Hudson River.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 09, 2014 08:16 AM (XO6WW)
Posted by: wooga at January 09, 2014 08:16 AM (GfS/y)
If you read the actual email exchanges and texts, it's pretty clear. First, the dick stuff is straightforward and unrebutted. In contrast, one person says he is getting heat about the partisanship and needs something to push back with. That goes unanswered.
It takes incredible naivete not to see the truth when it's right here. If this were truly a traffic study (which for some reason required knee-capping toll booths), where is the explanation? What was to be learned by closing the toll booths? Why was there no advance warning to those in government on the ground? Studies aren't by their nature emergency.
Imagine these memos for the IRS audit scandal. You wouldn't think after reading "Time to audit some conservatives," "I feel bad for their children," "Their the children of conservatives!" that it was political?
Where is the data collected in this study? I don't need a study to know that traffic jams are going to result if you close down lanes in rush hour. What numbers did they gather? What did they learn? That ambulance-response times double? Not an ideal way to test that.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at January 09, 2014 08:16 AM (mYm3B)
Posted by: RolandTHTG at January 09, 2014 08:16 AM (QM5S2)
RETHUGLIKKKAN WAR ON WYMYNZ!!!
Posted by: HR at January 09, 2014 08:17 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Walter Freeman
Perhaps.
Then again, abstract is the capital gains tax. Abstract is Senate rules of order.
Traffic played with by petty bureaucrats? That plays on a personal level.
Who hasn't been stuck in traffic backed up for miles, traffic for no apparent reason? Who in this country likes being inconvenienced by shitty highways? Which voters are just keen to be pawns in local pissing matches?
No one.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 08:17 AM (tlwVg)
Who was the broad a couple years ago who said essentially "we already decided who the candidate is going to be" in spite of the fact that none of the primaries had yet been held?
Part of what then was considered the mythical Republican Establishment.
Well, those people are still out there, and they still believe they are going to decide the Republican nominee.
They might be right. And frankly, I think they are mighty impressed with a guy who can handle himself at a presser in the middle of a scandal. It's a job skill they very much admire.
Christie is winning them over as we speak. What they rest of us think of all this doesn't matter at all.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 08:17 AM (TOk1P)
Or about the half-eaten mattress.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 09, 2014 08:17 AM (PK+r9)
Posted by: Ben Franklin, wearing his Coonskin Cap at January 09, 2014 08:17 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:18 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 09, 2014 08:18 AM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 08:18 AM (kqGWM)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 12:15 PM (Y92Nd)
Besides work in the Obama administration and directly disparge his own party?
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 08:18 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: X at January 09, 2014 08:19 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 08:19 AM (NKBxV)
Fill your hands, you sonofabitch!
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 09, 2014 08:19 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 09, 2014 08:19 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 08:19 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2014 08:19 AM (xWEXA)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 09, 2014 08:20 AM (VtjlW)
And shows no loyalty to those underneath him?
And runs away from the big, bad media when they attack him?
No wonder he's a perfect fit as John McCain's fat little brother.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 09, 2014 08:20 AM (VjL9S)
Christie is winning them over as we speak. What they rest of us think of all this doesn't matter at all.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 12:17 PM (TOk1P)
This scandal lives or dies depending on what deal christie made with liberals who controls media.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 09, 2014 08:20 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 09, 2014 08:20 AM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 08:20 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 09, 2014 08:20 AM (U1Tts)
Posted by: Tiresias at January 09, 2014 08:21 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2014 12:19 PM (xWEXA)
Doesn't mean a thing without the pics.
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 08:21 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Malthus at January 09, 2014 08:21 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 08:22 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: JDW at January 09, 2014 08:22 AM (MofJb)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 09, 2014 08:22 AM (U1Tts)
Posted by: Tiresias
So the election's tomorrow?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 08:22 AM (tlwVg)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 09, 2014 08:22 AM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 09, 2014 12:18 PM (zDsvJ)
Yes most politician's forego their salary or donate 15% of their earnings. Haters goin to hate.
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 08:22 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 09, 2014 08:23 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: JDW at January 09, 2014 12:22 PM (MofJb)
No, his brain is too suffused with THC to concentrate that long.
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 08:23 AM (RD7QR)
>>That's the kinda nonsense that ruins the careers of city councilmen and mayors, but governors and would be presidents?! I just don't see it.<<
I see it because the media is going to come out in droves to build up Hillary! and at the same time straight-up murder the ass of the GOP nominee.
Christie is done. Toast. The media will build up this traffic scandal to epic proportions and complaining about it won't help Christie at all.
And if the "Republican Establishment" still thinks Christie has a change when he's A) not really conservative 2) a craven, pompous dickhead who probably can't relate to anyone outside the greater NJ/NY area, III) seen as a buddy with Obama, and 4) now this --- then all hope for a GOP president is dead. I
Posted by: MacGruber at January 09, 2014 08:23 AM (S+el1)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 08:23 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at January 09, 2014 08:24 AM (nUH8H)
========
Agreed.
I hope John McCain's fat little brother gets to find out the lessons of Nixon: When a Republican fires an underling for a scandal, that means to keep digging. Only Democrats get to conclude scandals that way.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 09, 2014 08:24 AM (VjL9S)
Christie is winning them over as we speak. What they rest of us think of all this doesn't matter at all.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 12:17 PM (TOk1P)
My vote doesn't count?
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 08:24 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 08:24 AM (FciyD)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:25 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 08:25 AM (naUcP)
What, specifically, did she lie about?
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 09, 2014 12:15 PM (ZPrif)
"This will go away."
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 09, 2014 08:25 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2014 08:25 AM (xWEXA)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 09, 2014 08:25 AM (U1Tts)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 08:25 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:26 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 08:26 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 08:26 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 09, 2014 08:27 AM (4PpNg)
I've lost a job and missed many important appointments because of self important assholes like Christie and his friends.
I think they should be publicly crucified like dogs and have their meat served up as hamburgers to the poor.
FUCK THEM ALL!!!
anyone who uses traffic to get back at anyone should face death. Thats not hyperbolic either. Its life and death sometimes. My life, their death.
Posted by: Goodbye asshole at January 09, 2014 08:27 AM (TcDKW)
Posted by: Chris Christie at January 09, 2014 08:27 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 08:27 AM (kqGWM)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 08:28 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 08:28 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: X
C'mon, 'X'. You have to support Burn The Witch. She's our presumptive nominee for Best Commenter of the Year!
She only insults you because she's electable.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 08:28 AM (tlwVg)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 09, 2014 08:28 AM (RyWB2)
Posted by: Gov Christie at January 09, 2014 08:28 AM (FciyD)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 08:28 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 11:38 AM (naUcP)
What history books have you been reading lately? Not a big Christie fan but knew when I first heard about it that this is not the stuff of a career-breaking, ambition-shattering scandal, especially not in a state like New Jersey, where politicians who can't find their way through a scandal typically don't make it to Governor's mansion.
Posted by: Napoleon Bonaparte at January 09, 2014 08:29 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: phrastic array at January 09, 2014 08:29 AM (gUoN4)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 09, 2014 08:29 AM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 08:29 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 08:29 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 08:29 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:29 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 09, 2014 08:29 AM (yrohn)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:30 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 08:30 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 09, 2014 08:30 AM (LSJmV)
Grow up pokynikes.
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 09, 2014 12:29 PM (zDsvJ)
still hatin I see.
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 08:30 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 09, 2014 08:30 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:30 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 08:31 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 08:31 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:31 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 09, 2014 08:31 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 08:31 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 09, 2014 12:28 PM (RyWB2)
He supported the guy who did.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 09, 2014 08:32 AM (AWmfW)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 09, 2014 08:32 AM (PK+r9)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 08:32 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 08:32 AM (1Y+hH)
Hey remember when TFG closed all the monuments for political spite ?
Remember when he cancelled WH tours for political spite ?
Remember when he said we have to punish our enemies ?
I guess Krispy learned alot in his BROmance with TFG
Posted by: McCool at January 09, 2014 08:32 AM (nCSwS)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 08:32 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 08:32 AM (kqGWM)
Posted by: PipeHolder at January 09, 2014 08:32 AM (VTeUD)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 08:33 AM (7ObY1)
That's nice... hey guess what Chris Christie uses the media and their lies to attack people/policy.
Forgive me if I am playing a violin SO small it could fit in one of his folds.
I hold politicians to the same standard.
I hate Obama's maluse of power, I hate Christie's overt or inert use of power....
see "the same" unlike team DNC
http://tinyurl.com/pntzx5g
Tweetline on Chris Christie Bull to Steer and Media Tool
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:33 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 09, 2014 08:34 AM (oFCZn)
340 -
I tried looking it up, but the best I could come up with for search terms were "rotten, stinking, no-good Republican Establishment harpy."
I got plenty of hits, none that turned up a single, specific individual though.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 08:34 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 09, 2014 08:34 AM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 08:34 AM (m2CN7)
Her secretary, Lane Barrier, could not be reached for comment.
Does she have soft shoulders?
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 09, 2014 08:35 AM (PK+r9)
Posted by: JDW at January 09, 2014 08:35 AM (MofJb)
Posted by: X at January 09, 2014 12:23 PM (KHo8t)
I'm going to go with you're 15 and got D's in English."
"Scratch a drug warrior, find a fascist" - X
Reposted for context.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 08:35 AM (5ikDv)
Who the fuck is complaining about it anyway(not directed at you but with you Mr. Freeman)
I am taking a page out of the John McCain, Chris Christie, Lindsey Graham playbook and using the press against an enemy republican in an internal matter.
Chris Christie is New jersey and the Media's Fat Boy not mine.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:35 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 09, 2014 08:35 AM (LSJmV)
"the remarks made in the emails and texts caused him to lose all confidence in his judgment."
Funny, that is what I thought Chris after Sandy hit and he dropped to his knees and puckered up for Oshama.
Chris is looking more and more Progressive.
Posted by: markon at January 09, 2014 08:36 AM (Yljb/)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2014 08:36 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 09, 2014 08:36 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Dang at January 09, 2014 08:36 AM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Beagle at January 09, 2014 08:36 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 08:36 AM (kqGWM)
Posted by: X at January 09, 2014 08:36 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 08:36 AM (1Y+hH)
350 -
Lemme guess: came out on stage, said he was going to rock the crowd for the next two hours with his super cool rockin' skills...
And then proceeded to not do that.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 08:36 AM (TOk1P)
Else they'd:
"resigned" carries the implication that the offender owned up and realizes their mistake and accepts the full punishment.
See how that works, John McCain's fat little brother?
And you decided to choose "fired."
Good luck with that, chunk ass.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 09, 2014 08:37 AM (VjL9S)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 08:37 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:37 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: votermom at January 09, 2014 08:37 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Swillary Clitnot at January 09, 2014 08:37 AM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 08:37 AM (1Y+hH)
Hey imagine that, the candidate then was also a pet GOP pol of the M$M who felt(sincerely) the media would stay his buddy against a mule....
The McCain wing of the GOP LOVES using the M$M as a force multiplier in internal battles...
I aim to enjoy using the M$M against them from now on.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:37 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 09, 2014 12:23 PM (LSJmV)
Well, Baroni (the former ED of the Port Authority who resigned) made a pretty convincing case to the legislative committee investigating the lane closures that it was a traffic study. OTOH the New York appointees on the PA board said they knew nothing about it when the lane closures happened, so that seems like a load of bullshit.
Y'all know whose offices are in Fort Lee, don't you? This may have had nothing to do with the mayor at all.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 08:37 AM (aBlZ1)
http://tinyurl.com/9zewotn
BRB
Posted by: dananjcon at January 09, 2014 08:38 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 09, 2014 12:30 PM (naUcP)
Let me rephrase: when has the world ever been rational? Ignorance, venality and hubris have always been the rule with political leaders, not the exception. That there have been a few exceptional men and women here and there throughout history is the only reason we still have a semblance of civilization. That's the way of things. That's always been the way of things.
Posted by: Napoleon Bonaparte at January 09, 2014 08:38 AM (2jF2B)
In the end, the important thing to remember is that for the press, this is a story of earth shattering import.
Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS, etc, etc, etc, aren't and haven't been.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 09, 2014 08:38 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 09, 2014 08:39 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: X at January 09, 2014 08:39 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Caliban at January 09, 2014 08:39 AM (DrC22)
I'm pretty sure they have to dangle him from a Sikorsky.
Posted by: Dang at January 09, 2014 08:40 AM (MNq6o)
Posted by: think at January 09, 2014 08:40 AM (OroYa)
Posted by: dananjcon at January 09, 2014 12:38 PM (wmU4G)
I don't know what you're smoking, but they're looking right at me. Obviously.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 09, 2014 08:40 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2014 08:41 AM (NKBxV)
Else they'd:
"resigned" carries the implication that the offender owned up and realizes their mistake and accepts the full punishment.
See how that works, John McCain's fat little brother?
And you decided to choose "fired."
Good luck with that, chunk ass.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 09, 2014 12:37 PM (VjL9S)
Huh? To most people, "you're fired" means "you fucked up, get out and you get no severance and no unemployment and may God have mercy on your soul." "Resigned" means "you didn't really fuck up but somebody has to fall on the sword, and you get severance pay and unemployment." I've personally negotiated a resignation to avoid a firing by a vindictive manager. It makes a huge difference to future employers and you can't draw unemployment if you are fired for cause.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 08:41 AM (aBlZ1)
Does the lack of sense or logic in the anti-gun position stop Christie from aiding the left on it?
Has he shown ANY restraint on speaking of it nationally?
Yes it sucks, I can't control the media's ethics I can control mine and the party's so much as I can.
This "scandal" is hilarious Obama and Clinton shut down entire Metro AirSpaces for long periods for haircuts for fuck's sakes...
"but" there it is.
Live by the media, get made a steer by the media.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:41 AM (TE35l)
Didn't Bluto go on to become a US Senator in Animal House? Just goes to show you.Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:41 AM (Y92Nd)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 48 days until spring training at January 09, 2014 08:41 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:41 AM (zOTsN)
I guess if you're that fugly, Sappho is the way to go. Posted by: BlueStateRebel
Why the hate? Some women are not attractive to men and some men are not attractive to women (although women tend to have broader tastes) so why shouldn't she find happiness with someone even if it is her own gender. Have you volunteered to provide sexual services to unattractive women so that they don't have to go sappho? Frankly, Lily Tomlin is not fugly and she's in her frickin' 70s. How many 70 year old women do you drool over (other than Sofia Loren)?
Posted by: SFGoth at January 09, 2014 08:41 AM (9CBig)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 08:41 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 09, 2014 12:38 PM (BZAd3)
Yes, but they're all local news of minor interest to the public.
A inconvenient lane closing in NJ has the potential to ripple the very fabric of civilization.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Thunderb
I'm pretty sure they have to dangle him from a Sikorsky.
Posted by: Dang at January 09, 2014 12:40 PM (MNq6o)
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I would never get into a dohyō with him.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (1Y+hH)
I say, go ABCCBSMSNBC, and skewer the prick. See what it gets ya.
Posted by: Sphynx at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (7ObY1)
Never. I will show him the party loyalty he has shown Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and the ENTIRE FUCKING PARTY when he blew Obama within 72 hours of game time.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (kqGWM)
Posted by: think at January 09, 2014 12:40 PM (OroYa)
Don't see that happening, these are aides who were with him a long time, Bill Stepien in particular. Schmidt and Wallace were a very different story.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: Thunderb
I'm pretty sure they have to dangle him from a Sikorsky.
Posted by: Dang at January 09, 2014 12:40 PM (MNq6o)
Pacific Rim 2 - starring Chris Christie as America's newest jaeger: Jersey Devil.
"Let's go fishing!"
Posted by: EC at January 09, 2014 08:42 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 08:43 AM (kwKjX)
Who thinks Christy would get the country on a saner fiscal course?
No one.
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (zOTsN)
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4 years Christie and my taxes are on the rise.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 09, 2014 08:43 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 09, 2014 08:43 AM (VtjlW)
Scratch a drug warrior, find a fascist.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete
"Scratch a drug warrior, find a fascist. "
You won the internet :-D Posted by: Roadrunner
sven is not statist. he just wants the government to use violence against pot smokers. Posted by: X
You are correct, my apologies.
It was the other troll.
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 08:44 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2014 08:44 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Gran at January 09, 2014 08:44 AM (mw0FO)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 08:44 AM (kwKjX)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (9CBig)
Yes, but I was young, good-looking, amoral and hormonally driven and just plain didn't care what they looked like or what their reasons were. Sue me.
Posted by: Napoleon Bonaparte at January 09, 2014 08:45 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:45 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Beagle at January 09, 2014 08:45 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Richard Nixon at January 09, 2014 08:45 AM (lZBBB)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 09, 2014 08:45 AM (9CBig)
Hog farmin'??
Sure! Who hasn't?
::: looks around warily :::
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 09, 2014 08:45 AM (sbV1u)
http://tinyurl.com/9zewotn
BRB
Posted by: dananjcon at January 09, 2014 12:38 PM (wmU4G)
A pleasing distraction but still a distressing surfeit of clothing.
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 08:45 AM (RD7QR)
Well guys, I stayed around until answered all your questions, What more can I do?
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 12:45 PM (zOTsN)
Gov. Christy is SO HOT . . .
Posted by: Zombie Helen Thomas at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (CJjw5)
I haven't been here in awhile, so forgive my ignorance but why does everyone hate Christie again? Is it because he hugged Obama, or did he betray some kind of conservative principle? If he betrayed a conservative principle, which one was it? Is he worse than Mitt? Please tell me this isn't going to be 2012 all over again. Please tell me that we are not going to just sit in a circular firing squad...again.
My God, what are we doing?
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (Ng/f0)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (C8Kqk)
Who thinks Christy would get the country on a saner fiscal course?
No one.
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 12:41 PM (zOTsN)
That's actually the one reason I WOULD support him. Because he did that in New Jersey. Corzine left him an unbelievable mess and he has waded through it. Took on the PEUs to get the pension program cleaned up and at least on a saner course, and that caused almost 5000 state employees to retire early.
Too bad only about 0.01% of voters actually care about the fiscal course of the country. That is the reason for the mess we are in.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (LSJmV)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 09, 2014 08:46 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:47 AM (Y92Nd)
======
Point of order: LIVs do not think. They will be told what to believe and will believe it.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 09, 2014 08:47 AM (VjL9S)
Lady de Rothschild, and despite her unfortunate quote she's a wonderful woman. Seriously. Throws a great party, doesn't give a flying fuck about 'social class' or money or whatever: if you're interesting, and conduct yourself well in public, you're in.
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 09, 2014 08:47 AM (ewYO6)
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That and dick jokes.
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 08:47 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 09, 2014 08:47 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 09, 2014 08:48 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 09, 2014 08:48 AM (Whcm/)
This is the only thing that will hold him.
http://tinyurl.com/7379rgl
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 09, 2014 08:48 AM (JpC1K)
I haven't been here in awhile, so forgive my ignorance but why does everyone hate Christie again? Is it because he hugged Obama, or did he betray some kind of conservative principle? If he betrayed a conservative principle, which one was it? Is he worse than Mitt? Please tell me this isn't going to be 2012 all over again. Please tell me that we are not going to just sit in a circular firing squad...again.
My God, what are we doing?
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 09, 2014 12:46 PM (Ng/f0)
Didn't you get the memo? He personally assured Obama's reelection by publicly sucking him off, while also throwing the Tea Party under the bus and not being sufficiently wowed by Sarah Palin's tits.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 08:48 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:48 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Beagle at January 09, 2014 08:48 AM (sOtz/)
Yeah X is a good part of why I got to 1100...
if you can't be great, be good, and if you can't be good, be honest, and if you can't be honest be...x
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:48 AM (TE35l)
But his ability to deal with the press? Pretty damned good.
Posted by: Vortex Lovera at January 09, 2014 08:49 AM (wtvvX)
I am shamed. SHAMED.
I shall punish myself with repetitive readings of Herr Doktor Paul's newsletters...
Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at January 09, 2014 08:49 AM (5ikDv)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 09, 2014 08:50 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 09, 2014 12:43 PM (VtjlW)
You are profoundly twisted.
I like it!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2014 08:50 AM (QFxY5)
426 -
As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. The first thing an exec needs to do is find the hot sexretary who will blow him when he needs to be blown.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 08:50 AM (TOk1P)
No we also need him to increase his deference to Radical Islam....
Let's go for the "Madea in a pale costume" to Obama's Tyler Perry....
I am not a Pavlovian dog who answers the GOP call for the ringing of a bell.
There's a reason the national media loves him...cipher it out.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:50 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 08:50 AM (kwKjX)
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 08:51 AM (Hx5uv)
Now come over here so I can give you a hug. What's that? Why am I holding a ceramic squirrel? No reason.
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 09, 2014 12:48 PM (VtjlW)
What?!?! Oh come on! That was funny!
Christie's plan to keep the kaiju out of NJ is.........
....wait for it....
....wait for it....
....lane closures.
*runs*
Posted by: EC at January 09, 2014 08:51 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 09, 2014 08:51 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Dang at January 09, 2014 08:51 AM (MNq6o)
The press is not going for the knockout here they are bullfighting him.
This is just the tip of the first spear.
They are hobbling the bull's spirit and wind for charging.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:51 AM (TE35l)
They must be reading conservative blogs. The more they realize conservatives aren't on the Christie train, the more they'll want him.
How much thinner is he? People are saying he's a fraction of his former self.
Posted by: think at January 09, 2014 08:51 AM (OroYa)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:52 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Dan at January 09, 2014 08:52 AM (gR5OX)
Posted by: grandmalcaesar at January 09, 2014 08:52 AM (yrohn)
Seriously, the DC media jackals on Twitter have been stunned into silence by this virtuoso performance by Christie. Ron Fournier is having an orgasm as we speak, Christie just did every single thing he said he should do in his column this morning - and every thing that Obama has failed to do.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 08:52 AM (aBlZ1)
I think he knew about it and thought it was funny too. Just like I believe Obama knew alot of the crap he denies. But I am a skeptic like that.
To say I am leery of anything a politician says would be an understatement.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 09, 2014 08:52 AM (n0DEs)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 09, 2014 08:52 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: X at January 09, 2014 08:52 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Chrissy Chrissy at January 09, 2014 08:53 AM (vHRtU)
432 -
No, Krispy hasn't betrayed any conservative principles. Krispy doesn't have any conservative principles to betray.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2014 08:53 AM (TOk1P)
Would have been here sooner but traffic was at a standstill all morning.
Posted by: The Institute for the Study of Traffic Flow at January 09, 2014 08:54 AM (HF0sI)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 09, 2014 08:54 AM (Y92Nd)
Of course, Sir! Would the gentlemen also enjoy a frankfurter with an aubergine and lemongrass coulis?
Posted by: Sean Bannion, Bartender to the Stars[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 09, 2014 08:54 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: votermom at January 09, 2014 08:54 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 09, 2014 08:54 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 09, 2014 08:55 AM (kwKjX)
Posted by: think at January 09, 2014 12:51 PM (OroYa)
99/100 is a fraction too...
Posted by: joncelli at January 09, 2014 08:55 AM (RD7QR)
Does a President's political views really matter? I mean, if we focused more on Congressional elections instead of Presidential ones, wouldn't the country be better off? Aren't we just playing some stupid game every four years? Or are we all convinced that a President Romney or President Christie or President "RINO" would really veto an anti-gun control or anti-amnesty bill?
Really?
Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 09, 2014 08:55 AM (Ng/f0)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 08:55 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 09, 2014 08:55 AM (kqGWM)
I had a throat punch coming??
Really??????
::: sniff :::
She loves me. She really, really loves me.
Posted by: Sean Bannion, Bartender to the Stars[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 09, 2014 08:56 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Sean Bannion, Bartender to the Stars at January 09, 2014 12:54 PM (sbV1u)
tre racisct
Posted by: Sphynx at January 09, 2014 08:56 AM (OZmbA)
Really??????
::: sniff :::
She loves me. She really, really loves me.
She throatpunches us because she loves us.
Posted by: EC at January 09, 2014 08:56 AM (GQ8sn)
Believe me, I am truly a nobody. No money, no status, no name, just a guy with a vaguely interesting biography (and emphasis on "vaguely") with a gift for extemporaneous conversationalizing and a stubbornly conservative, self-examining contrarian streak. In other words, the quintessential AoSHQ moron, really. It's all about time and place. No other special merit. As Woody Allen said, "99% of life is just showing up."
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 09, 2014 08:56 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 48 days until spring training at January 09, 2014 08:57 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Beagle at January 09, 2014 08:57 AM (sOtz/)
Chris Christie is a "kept republican" by the US Media. There can be little question that the JList lives and that the media is in relative collusion on narrative building. The M$M keeps several Republicans on speed dial retainer to fuck the GOP when needed.
John McCain, Chris Christie, Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake, Rep King, Dick Lugar back in the day...
These men use the media as a force multiplier for internal GOP battles with their opponent unable to answer with the same coverage and to draw the party ever leftward.
Particularly loathsome in McCain's case is his constant use of this power to bugchase world war 3.
I refuse to believe they do not know what they are doing, and if it is ever proven to me it means they are too dumb for power.
You want party unity? Find a person the press hates or does not know who can bind the party. Any media all-star is disqualified because of their interior party disloyalty in using not attacking the M$M.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 08:57 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 09, 2014 08:58 AM (bCEmE)
[i*cough*[/i]
Posted by: Teleprompter at January 09, 2014 08:58 AM (MNq6o)
#470 Property taxes in NJ suck. No doubt. That's why we live in PA though husband and I both work in NJ. What's the solution there? Those taxes pay for schools and the state is under court orders to fund the schools. Christie can't do anything about that. He did kill the rebates Corzine handed out like candy because they were a band-aid that the state couldn't afford. He also has a Dem legislature and there is only so much tax-cutting you can ever sell to a Democrat. People who want lower property taxes need to elect more Republicans to the legislature and their local township and school boards.
He has not raised any other state taxes while balancing a budget that was $1 billion in the red when he took over. He has proposed a 10% state income tax cut and refused to extend the millionaire's tax.
He became a hero to me when he turned down the federal money for the Hudson River Tunnel and pissed off all the New York Democrats and unions who wanted that boondoggle project.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 08:58 AM (aBlZ1)
He will not decrease spending
He is pro gun control
He is pro amnesty
Is that enough?
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 12:48 PM (zOTsN)
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Don't forget he's a watermelon.
Posted by: dananjcon at January 09, 2014 08:59 AM (wmU4G)
Posted by: RioBravo at January 09, 2014 08:59 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 09, 2014 08:59 AM (Y5I9o)
No kidding. Do I have time for a quick nap first?
Posted by: Dang at January 09, 2014 08:59 AM (MNq6o)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 08:59 AM (9PrpA)
Can any of you imagine Obama or Hillary doing the same?
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Remember when Billy Blow Job closed down the LA airport so he could get a haircut? Good times. good times.
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 09:00 AM (Hx5uv)
I denied it at the time and laughed at you genius.
Ask around here about whether I am a statist or a fascist.
Now chase your tail lad.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 09:00 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl 48 days until spring training at January 09, 2014 09:00 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: RioBravo at January 09, 2014 09:00 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 09, 2014 09:00 AM (9PrpA)
Posted by: Sarah Palin, vetted, rested, ready at January 09, 2014 09:01 AM (GSIDW)
Posted by: WalrusRex at January 09, 2014 09:01 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 09:01 AM (zOTsN)
Oh come on now, that's just when pitchers and catchers report!
Glad to see another big baseball fan here, though.
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 09, 2014 09:01 AM (ewYO6)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 09:02 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Chewbama at January 09, 2014 09:03 AM (EX+sq)
I'd follow you to the gates of hell ma'am, the problem is too many would throw us in hell.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 09:03 AM (TE35l)
This was an impromptu phony excuse to take a dig at a mayor they wanted to make uncomfortable.
It's come back to bite the big guy on his fat ass.
I'm guessing he told the aide to "find something to make that Fort Lee A**hole uncomfortable. And she did.
That he's pitching her off the bus is just him trying for salvage.
Either way he looks like a petty dope.
But then I never liked him after the second/third look and when Coulter was in love with him is when I said "no way am I voting for that".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 09, 2014 09:04 AM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 09:04 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Mayday at January 09, 2014 09:05 AM (eHc+1)
Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at January 09, 2014 09:05 AM (2oU2+)
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 12:57 PM (TE35l)
The JournoList boys and really most of the MSM hate all Republicans. In fact they want the GOP to pick a candidate as far right as possible because that person will be much easier to beat. If they are pushing Christie at all it is only because they know how much conservatives hate him and they want to keep the GOP split.
But I agree with you 100% on finding a candidate that can bind the party. Christie can't and that's why I don't want him. I personally think he would be a great President but there are PLENTY of other Republicans - pretty much any of the current GOP Governors - who would too and would not piss off a large segment of the voters.
Time to get Mike Pence up and running IMO.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 09:05 AM (aBlZ1)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 09:06 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Meremortal at January 09, 2014 09:06 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: RioBravo at January 09, 2014 09:07 AM (eEfYn)
Posted by: Lobsterlen at January 09, 2014 09:08 AM (ztKLQ)
Hope this is a sign of things to come for obastard in 2014.
Posted by: Mayday at January 09, 2014 09:09 AM (eHc+1)
Posted by: X at January 09, 2014 09:10 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 09, 2014 09:10 AM (FciyD)
Posted by: Thunderb at January 09, 2014 09:11 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 12:58 PM (aBlZ1)
Yes he supposedly saved NJ from a boondoggle only to bash fellow Republicans who criticized the Sandy boondoggle bill. This is the worst type of character.
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 09:12 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 09:13 AM (aBlZ1)
Over 500 posts ... And the really important question is not asked one damn time.
So ... This Bridget Kelly chic ... Is she tappable ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 09, 2014 09:15 AM (z/K7F)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 09, 2014 09:15 AM (bCEmE)
RockMom I am not offering this as a rebuke or an insult.
Do me a favor and grant me the indulgence that the JListers are simply evil not stupid.
Now look at how they treat the GOP Media All-Stars vs the mainbody of the party please.
Now look at how they treat their pets when there is a democrat in peril.
Now look at how they treat their pets when the peril has passed and the pet shows it will not attack their democrat masters.
Thank you for your indulgence.
Christie is either too stupid to understand the dynamic I am pointing out, OR is by being so stupid unworthy of backing.
He may in fact be the Captain Joisey living icon of the NJ GOP I cannot speak to that.
I do know that a Christie Presidency would harm if not the nation then most assuredly the GOP.
Christie would argue for gun control or not undo Obama's Executive Order and Regulatory Fiat controls, he has shown no desire for large sustained jobs growth, and he has raised taxes and would in all likelihood argue for increases at the national level.
All those things are toxic to the national party and Pelosi or whomever would use the President's advocacy as a club to hurt the GOP and whether Speaker or Minority leader attack the Conservatives back home with Conservative (haha) Democrats.
What NJ does in NJ is its business, nationally its part of mine.
I fear the tantrum he throws when we don't change our values for him, I was too silent when McCain pretended.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 09:16 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 01:12 PM (m2CN7)
Good point. He didn't win any points from me on the Sandy funding. He could have won with everyone by demanding a pork-free bill and done more behind the scenes to help make that happen.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 09:16 AM (aBlZ1)
Correct in aftermath and reset after the election loss.
He is NOT really a member of my party.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 09:17 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 09, 2014 09:17 AM (bCEmE)
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 01:16 PM (aBlZ1)
You are correct. That would have gone a long way garnering my support.
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 09:19 AM (m2CN7)
Yup. He either believed his support is so narrow in NJ he couldn't argue for a non porked bill or he did not care. Considering how hard he spiked the football and the democrats relatively laid down for him neither would shock me.
He is not in any way shape or form a Fiscal Hawk.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 09:20 AM (TE35l)
#538 Who do you consider the GOP media all-stars? Their ultimate pet is Obama and their next one is Hillary. Notice that this "scandal" conveniently erupted the day after Bob Gates' book came out that trashed Obama and Hillary? You really think that's a coincidence?
They hate all Republicans. All that stuff about how Christie (or anyone else) can "save the GOP" is bullshit. They don't want the GOP saved. They want it dead.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 09:20 AM (aBlZ1)
or at least my indifferent silence and vote.
It is not that I do not trust Christie to be my perfect candidate it is that thus far Christie has shown me nothing that says he is my candidate at all.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 09:21 AM (TE35l)
It is not that I do not trust Christie to be my perfect candidate it is that thus far Christie has shown me nothing that says he is my candidate at all.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 09, 2014 01:21 PM (TE35l)
Yes, indifferent silence and vote is a good way to put it.
Posted by: polynikes at January 09, 2014 09:23 AM (m2CN7)
But before we dispose of him, it might be a good idea to make sure we have someone who can actually win the next election and get this country back on a saner fiscal course. Posted by: Caliban
Jeez....never heard THAT kind of bullshit before......totally new.
I DO think it is very interesting that Cain was tried and convicted immediately by "the powers that be" on this site, but Krispy is getting a whole lot of "could have been, maybe was, what if this" leeway.
Posted by: FITP at January 09, 2014 09:24 AM (mtjSE)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 09, 2014 09:24 AM (G5cc0)
Posted by: FITP at January 09, 2014 09:25 AM (mtjSE)
#544 I don't really know what he is or isn't these days. That's the biggest problem I have with him. All he has become to me is someone who is kinda fun to watch and interesting. But the polls don't lie and people out there do like him.
I think I know a little more about him than most here because my husband is a NJ state employee, we live right over the border and have lots of friends and family in NJ (including some in Ft. Lee). It's close to a second home state for me. So I have paid attention to Christie since his name was first floated as a candidate for Governor. I read the local papers and see what is going on inside the state government on a daily basis.
Posted by: rockmom at January 09, 2014 09:25 AM (aBlZ1)
I agree they want the GOP hamstrung, I disagree they want it dead(yet)
They look at the All-Stars as their tools.
They will "hurt" a tool when a scandal is needed in a bad news cycle for the Demcorats, they will attack the pet when they run nationally against the democrat, but they will highlight and use and be used by the kept republican as a hammer on the people to the right of the kept republican.
Jlist is not an inelegant thing, it is about massaging the story arc of the news for LIV.
Christie aided those efforts immensely with his atatcks on the house in the wake of Sandy.
I do not believe he was overtly told what was needed, but I think once he started they pimped his message to the 9s.
"Pass it, PASS IT NOW!" Christie attacks heartless GOP none of this crisis is Obama's fault(was the silent subtle message)
THIS IS NOT KATRINA! was the story arc.
Sorry you think he is indifferent to his media treatment I think not.
You do notice how supine he was at the press conference?
Did he mock the press in the least for their being KEENLY interested in THIS particular "administrative abuse of power" and not dubbing it a local "crime story"?
Reagan would have came out prior and mocked to their face "er well I guess today "nobody is angrier than ME" and in 3 days to a few weeks we'll be at "this is a fake scandal" mocking their deference to Obama.
Christie does not do this publically, he is harsh at times with local media because the local media naturally hates him and wants the democrat.
It is my hypothesis that this is because he is a concious or unconcious symbiotic relationship with them.
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Posted by: AnnaS at January 09, 2014 10:26 AM (UN0/t)
Yeah, the whole thing baffles me. What was the political calculus?
1. Make people suffer (more than usual) in traffic jams.
2. ?
3. Republican Electoral Victory!
Doesn't make a lick o' sense.
Posted by: West at January 09, 2014 10:38 AM (1Rgee)
Posted by: Christie can suck my throbbing cock at January 09, 2014 11:58 AM (KOp/H)
I think the closing it might have nothing to do with the mayor of Fort Lee, and nothing to do with Chris ChristieÂ’s re-election campaign.
There wasnÂ’t actually any attempt to get the mayor to endorse Christie!!
Christie said at his press conference that the mayor was not one of those whose endorsement they thought they could get! He was not on their radar screen.
So it couldnÂ’t have been retaliation. Christie is so confused heÂ’s not taking this to its logical conclusion
The whole story of the motive is a lie. The whole issue of the endorsement is a red herring. Spin.
The e-mails were selectively edited by David Wildstein.
Bridget Anne Kelly who, on August 13, 2013, who sent an e-mail to the Port Authority Director of Interstate Capital Projects, that said in part:
And Wildstein replied:
Got It
This quote is taken out of context, and we have no context for it. I have not seen any context quoted for this, not the sentence before, and not the sentence afterward, and not anything else she sent that day, and I don't think anybody besides David Wildstein has it.
What that means is that we donÂ’t know what triggered it. It's omitted.
I read in Gail CollinsÂ’ column in the New York Times today that the majority leader of the New Jersey state Senate is also from Fort Lee, New Jersey, Her name is Loretta Weinberg, and she is 78 years old.
When Bridget Anne Kelly says “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee” this clearly indicates this has been discussed before, and David Wildstein’s reply indicates he understands the coded message. (this is not explicit - this s coded language because it is only a hint – they knew the e-mail could be seen by others one day.)
Further, when Bridget Anne Kelly says “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee” that indicates something that happened around then triggered it. Itis probably mentioned in that e-mail, the rest of which has not released it looks like. It is probably a bill in the state legislature, or a stalled nomnation, or a nascent investigation. Or it could be maybe even the targetwas not Loeretta weinberg, Loretta Weinberg or somebody else who would see the symbolism. And they were bluffing, because didn’t really have all that much power. It was selected because that was what they could do. They could turn water into blood, but they couldn’t bring locusts. And they were not afraid to start up because there was bribery going on on the other side too, so it would never get exposed for what it was. But they forgot that New York State also had a role in he running of the Port Authority, so the “demonstration” was terminated early.Even further: When Bridget Anne Kelly says “Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee” it is not designed to do great harm, but only to show their power. That’s why it is so trivial and petty looking.
They may have been other threats made, some of which they may have had no power to do. And they wanted to show their power.
David Wildstein, also by the way, probably lied (to other conspirators) about Port Authority Chairman David Samson being on their side (he wrote he was going to retaliate against New York for stopping the lane closure)
Samson is quite upset and distressed about having been named this way.
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