May 05, 2014
— Ace No really.
The Rialto school district planned to revise an eighth-grade assignment that raised red flags by asking students to consider arguments about whether the Holocaust — the systematic killing by the Nazis of some 6 million Jews and millions of others — was not an “actual event” but instead a “propaganda tool that was used for political and monetary gain.”In a statement released Monday, a spokeswoman for the Rialto Unified School District said an academic team was meeting to revise the assignment.
Interim Superintendent Mohammad Z. Islam was set to talk with administrators to “assure that any references to the holocaust ‘not occurring’ will be stricken on any current or future Argumentative Research assignments,” a statement from district spokeswoman Syeda Jafri read.
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The 18-page assignment instructions included three sources that students were instructed to use, including one that stated gassings in concentration camps were a “hoax” and that no evidence has shown Jews died in gas chambers.
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“ADL does not have any evidence that the assignment was given as part of a larger, insidious, agenda,” the blog post read. “Rather, the district seems to have given the assignment with an intent, although misguided, to meet Common Core standards relating to critical learning skills.”
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In her statement provided to KTLA, Jafri said the district’s “CORE team” would meet to revise the prompt.
A look at 2 pages of the 18 assignment in Rialto - students asked to argue whether Holocaust happened. @cbsla pic.twitter.com/97KqUFWfWF
— Tom (T.J.) Wait (@Tomthereporter) May 5, 2014I've hinted at this before, but let be explicit:
I do not support the lofty and ambitious goal of having teachers teach children "how to think" because I do not believe that low-ranking civil servants, as a group, are particularly good at it themselves.
Let this be my Exhibits A through Z.
They are failing at teaching the most basic stuff, so our response is to let them Explore the Studio Space?
And now to calm you down:
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Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 04:06 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at May 05, 2014 04:08 PM (XACYf)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 04:08 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 05, 2014 04:09 PM (+0txR)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 04:09 PM (IXrOn)
Really , I'm serious .
Stop laughing .
Posted by: awkward davies at May 05, 2014 04:10 PM (whqez)
That's because you don't understand what left-wingers means by "teaching students how to think." What they mean is "inculcating students with the left-wing narrative and supplying them left-wing talking points."
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 05, 2014 04:10 PM (I8YZX)
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Posted by: ace at May 05, 2014 04:14 PM (/FnUH)
When the radical priest comes to get me released, it's all on the cover of Newsweek.
Posted by: Me and Julia down by the schoolyard at May 05, 2014 04:14 PM (wu/TK)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2014 04:15 PM (XyM/Y)
These things just were.
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Posted by: ace at May 05, 2014 04:16 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Madamex at May 05, 2014 04:17 PM (yscMj)
[from Quote:] ..."Interim Superintendent Mohammad Z. Islam was set to talk with administrators to..."
Eh...is that a real name? ...'Mohammad Z. Islam'?
Posted by: wheatie at May 05, 2014 04:17 PM (l/M30)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 05, 2014 04:17 PM (v3BJ5)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:17 PM (QeH9j)
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Posted by: George Soros at May 05, 2014 04:18 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: spongeworthy at May 05, 2014 04:18 PM (8Pg2o)
Rather like that misguided effort to exterminate the Jews from the face of the Earth.
Their intentions were good.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 05, 2014 04:18 PM (wNF3N)
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Posted by: Islam All Jews Should Die Hussein at May 05, 2014 04:20 PM (cL+9V)
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Posted by: former Rialto Superintemndent Jesús H. Christ at May 05, 2014 04:20 PM (YxFgE)
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Posted by: Rialto Unified School District Teachers at May 05, 2014 04:21 PM (/FnUH)
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Posted by: Mohammed Z. Islam at May 05, 2014 04:22 PM (j0wOO)
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Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 05, 2014 04:23 PM (IVgIK)
49 it's amusing to know that some teacher or school administrator was trying to brainstorm "juicy" argumentative pieces for the kids to write about, and this is what he or she came up with.
Posted by: ace at May 05, 2014 08:16 PM (/FnUH)
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It is Political Indoctrination, Ace.
There is no other term for it.
The Dems are quick to claim that "the Republicans are politicizing" this or that.
But it is they who are, in fact, politicizing everything.
To the Dems...everything is a 'teaching moment'.
(Even things that shouldn't be.)
In other words...everything is an opportunity for Propaganda.
Posted by: wheatie at May 05, 2014 04:23 PM (l/M30)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at May 05, 2014 04:23 PM (qFpRI)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 05, 2014 04:23 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: EC at May 05, 2014 04:23 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Aviator at May 05, 2014 04:23 PM (3rrMW)
when the left needs something to compare climate change skeptics to
Posted by: Methos at May 05, 2014 04:23 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: Call me Ishmael at May 05, 2014 04:23 PM (1mtKP)
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Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 04:25 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 05, 2014 04:25 PM (LdmmL)
http://youtu.be/Xfi4s8cjLFI
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 04:25 PM (mn8eY)
Posted by: kbdabear at May 05, 2014 04:25 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at May 05, 2014 04:25 PM (eAJwE)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We should be so lucky. at May 05, 2014 04:26 PM (dMSj2)
Posted by: Madamex at May 05, 2014 04:26 PM (yscMj)
Posted by: Soothie § at May 05, 2014 04:26 PM (OAn63)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 04:26 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 04:27 PM (IXrOn)
It's more 'diverse' now that the white devils have been kicked out .
Posted by: awkward davies at May 05, 2014 04:27 PM (whqez)
Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2014 04:28 PM (j0wOO)
Posted by: willow at May 05, 2014 04:28 PM (nqBYe)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 05, 2014 04:28 PM (+0txR)
Posted by: Cold Rage at May 05, 2014 04:28 PM (YkeNb)
As Insty likes to say, we are in the best of hands.
Posted by: Thatch at May 05, 2014 04:28 PM (qYvEa)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 04:28 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: kbdabear at May 05, 2014 04:28 PM (aTXUx)
Wonder what the Z stands for.
Also that is not a suprised kitteh, that is a poised for vigorous defense kitteh.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at May 05, 2014 04:29 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: EC at May 05, 2014 04:29 PM (doBIb)
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Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We should be so lucky. at May 05, 2014 04:30 PM (dMSj2)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 04:30 PM (ZPrif)
1. The Nazis who stole all their wealth and even their gold fillings.
2. The Swiss who stored much of the looted wealth.
3. And people like George Soros.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 04:30 PM (mn8eY)
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Posted by: Latrina J. Islam at May 05, 2014 04:32 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:32 PM (QeH9j)
Posted by: Rialto School District at May 05, 2014 04:33 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 05, 2014 04:33 PM (TGgNi)
Posted by: Muhammad Tyrone Islam Roosevelt at May 05, 2014 04:33 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at May 05, 2014 04:33 PM (eAJwE)
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Posted by: brainwashing is progress at May 05, 2014 04:33 PM (IXrOn)
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 05, 2014 04:34 PM (CMkNk)
Posted by: Golfman in NC at May 05, 2014 04:34 PM (XACYf)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 05, 2014 04:34 PM (oMKp3)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:34 PM (QeH9j)
FYI, the newspaper in question is one of those lefty "alt-weekly" rags that infest pretty much every major urban center on both coasts, not a 'mainstream' paper.
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 05, 2014 04:34 PM (I8YZX)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We should be so lucky. at May 05, 2014 04:34 PM (dMSj2)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 05, 2014 04:35 PM (v3BJ5)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 04:35 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Fritz at May 05, 2014 04:35 PM (oJUxt)
Another datum in tht regard: the UK has just had its first legal case brought against an Islamic medical doctor who was performing clitoridectomies. On the job, in a publicly funded National Health Service hospital.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/mubv96f
Isn't "multiculturalism" just grand? This stuff would have been considered science fiction only a few short years ago.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 05, 2014 04:35 PM (noWW6)
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Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 05, 2014 04:36 PM (+0txR)
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Posted by: Interim Superintendent Scarlett O'Hara at May 05, 2014 04:36 PM (1mtKP)
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Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at May 05, 2014 04:37 PM (JFUyc)
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Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2014 04:37 PM (TM1p8)
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Posted by: Soothsayer § at May 05, 2014 04:38 PM (OAn63)
161 When will the SWAT raids on home schools begin?
I'm surprised they haven't already started.
"Thou Shalt Not Deprive Your Child Of The Benefits Of Our Public Schools!"
Posted by: wheatie at May 05, 2014 04:38 PM (l/M30)
Why the hell did they have to make note of the "Z" in his name? Is there another Mohamad Islam who is an interim superintendent in Rialto?
Is it so we realize it's an actual name?
Eh, whatever.
Posted by: former Rialto Superintendent Jesús H. Christ at May 05, 2014 04:38 PM (YxFgE)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:38 PM (QeH9j)
Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 04:39 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: Cold Rage at May 05, 2014 04:39 PM (YkeNb)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 04:40 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Soothsayer § at May 05, 2014 04:40 PM (OAn63)
Posted by: Mama AJ at May 05, 2014 04:40 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Dave S. at May 05, 2014 04:40 PM (UvR6d)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:41 PM (QeH9j)
Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 04:41 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 04:41 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 05, 2014 04:41 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 04:41 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Soothsayer § at May 05, 2014 04:41 PM (OAn63)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 05, 2014 04:41 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We should be so lucky. at May 05, 2014 04:42 PM (dMSj2)
Posted by: Aviator at May 05, 2014 04:42 PM (3rrMW)
We have a Sec of State who just called Israel an Apartheid state. I for one don't think he should apologize - that's what he actually believes. That's what most Democrats believe.
Non-Jewish leftists despise the Jews, and it's like the Jews are supplying the rope for their own lynching.
Posted by: Mike at May 05, 2014 04:42 PM (24GWT)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 05, 2014 04:42 PM (v3BJ5)
Posted by: Cold Rage at May 05, 2014 04:42 PM (YkeNb)
I shit you not.
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 08:41 PM (QeH9j)
There is another? Oh my!
Posted by: George Takei at May 05, 2014 04:42 PM (YxFgE)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:43 PM (QeH9j)
Posted by: Mama AJ at May 05, 2014 04:43 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2014 04:43 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: seamrog at May 05, 2014 04:43 PM (C837g)
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 05, 2014 04:43 PM (I8YZX)
Posted by: votermom at May 05, 2014 04:43 PM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Republique De Banana at May 05, 2014 04:43 PM (thLL8)
Posted by: toby928© at May 05, 2014 04:43 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: mussolinis mom at May 05, 2014 04:44 PM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: Fewenuff at May 05, 2014 04:44 PM (zPNX5)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2014 04:45 PM (8zTpe)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 05, 2014 04:45 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We should be so lucky. at May 05, 2014 04:45 PM (dMSj2)
The only thing I can't understand is how so many Jews keep siding with the left.
Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 05, 2014 04:45 PM (IVgIK)
Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2014 04:46 PM (j0wOO)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 04:46 PM (Q8vlx)
Prophet Mohammad was 54 when he married 6 year old Aisha. He had sex with her when she was 9 years old.
Was the Prophet Mohammad a pedophile? Discuss.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 05, 2014 04:47 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: OregonMuse at May 05, 2014 04:47 PM (I8YZX)
Posted by: rickl at May 05, 2014 04:47 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 04:47 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Rialto Unified School District Teachers at May 05, 2014 04:48 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Suzie Q Lefty PHD Ed at May 05, 2014 04:48 PM (IVgIK)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 05, 2014 04:48 PM (v3BJ5)
Geez, man, you're supposed to put "Spoiler alert!" when major plot points are revealed.
Posted by: Null at May 05, 2014 04:49 PM (xjpRj)
Posted by: Thunderb at May 05, 2014 04:49 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2014 04:49 PM (8zTpe)
And Mo Z. Islam? Are you kidding me? He doesn't have an agenda?
Believe me, these fuckers mean business.
Posted by: PJ at May 05, 2014 04:49 PM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 04:49 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 05, 2014 04:49 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: fluffy at May 05, 2014 04:49 PM (Ua6T/)
Posted by: Fritz D. Cat at May 05, 2014 04:50 PM (pjMym)
Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2014 04:50 PM (j0wOO)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:50 PM (QeH9j)
Was the Prophet Mohammad a pedophile? Discuss.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 05, 2014 08:47 PM (AC0lD)
Errrr, probably we should just stick to the "Jesus was married and/or homosexual" topic for conversation. We like our heads attached to our necks.
Posted by: School Administrators Everywhere at May 05, 2014 04:50 PM (TM1p8)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 05, 2014 04:51 PM (ZshNr)
And homelessness. Can't forget homelessness.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 05, 2014 04:51 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:51 PM (QeH9j)
I don't see how we can do this as long as we have public schools. As horrible as many of the teachers are, do we really want high schools graduating students who have never learned how to do a mathematical proof or construct a term paper? Learning how to think is part of getting educated.
Or maybe you have something else in mind with the "how to think" phrase. If you are talking about indoctrination, then never mind, I agree completely. But, critical reasoning skills are essential.
I could even see assigning a student to write some kind of paper on a subject for which there are conspiracy theories out there. The Holocaust as a topic shows bad judgement on the part of whoever selected that example. But, the JFK assignation should be ok. If the assignment includes developing the skills to sift through all the info that is out there and then make a reasoned argument about where the truth lies, that is a skill that is something anyone graduating high school should have. And if some students write a paper saying the CIA killed JFK, I don't imagine anyone is going to get to bothered by it, unlike the potential for problems with something like the Holocaust.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2014 04:52 PM (IN7k+)
242...Now enough of this Pray for Smod shit Alex. I got two kids to herd through this damned mess. A general societal meltdown will do just fine, thank you.
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Yeah, it was funny in a 'black humor' sort of way...two years ago.
But I too, am tired of seeing it.
The same with AllenG's "Burn it down" bullshit.
Does that mean burning kittens and babies?
Posted by: wheatie at May 05, 2014 04:52 PM (l/M30)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 04:52 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: School Administrators Everywhere at May 05, 2014 08:50 PM (TM1p
The myth of Islamic violence to suppress dissent. Discuss.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 05, 2014 04:52 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Mohammad Z. Islam at May 05, 2014 04:52 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 04:52 PM (QeH9j)
Posted by: PJ at May 05, 2014 04:53 PM (ZWaLo)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 05, 2014 04:53 PM (ZshNr)
Oh, wait, that's an actual real topic for discussion. Just be careful not to get blackballed for even bringing it up.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 05, 2014 04:53 PM (TM1p8)
Posted by: UK Hospitals at May 05, 2014 04:54 PM (j0wOO)
Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 04:54 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative chding Orca at May 05, 2014 04:54 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at May 05, 2014 04:54 PM (Zg3a+)
Posted by: naturalfake at May 05, 2014 04:54 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at May 05, 2014 04:54 PM (86150)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2014 04:55 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: JEM at May 05, 2014 04:56 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 04:56 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 05, 2014 04:56 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: madtom at May 05, 2014 04:56 PM (cOb0J)
Mohammed Al Islam. Interim Superintendent
A fucking Luthern, I knew it!!
I bet MoMan also believes that the National Socialist German Workers party didn't kill enough Jews AND the Holocaust didn't happen. Neat trick.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 05, 2014 04:56 PM (8SsiG)
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Posted by: steevy at May 05, 2014 04:57 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at May 05, 2014 04:58 PM (86150)
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Posted by: Better Feared than Loved at May 05, 2014 04:59 PM (crkWb)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 05, 2014 08:52 PM (IN7k+)
There was a story in the news last week about a public library system in or around Toronto that dealt with complaints that "Hop on Pop" should be removed because it advocates violence (it's staying). The story mentioned other books that got banning requests and one of them was O'Reilly's "Killing Kennedy" because it promoted the "Oswald acted alone" theory.
Posted by: Vendette at May 05, 2014 04:59 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Aviator at May 05, 2014 04:59 PM (3rrMW)
Posted by: JEM at May 05, 2014 04:59 PM (o+SC1)
>>>>I feel like I live in a low-budget farce.
THIS this this THIS this this TTHHHHHTHTHIIIIISSSS thttiiisis thitatihtihtihtiissssss aaaaaaaahhhhhh
Posted by: typo dynamofo at May 05, 2014 04:59 PM (IVgIK)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 05:00 PM (Q8vlx)
I was surprised it was printed. Hell, this being Canuckistan, I was surprised it was written.
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Posted by: JEM at May 05, 2014 05:03 PM (o+SC1)
Fixed.
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Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We should be so lucky. at May 05, 2014 05:04 PM (dMSj2)
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Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at May 05, 2014 05:12 PM (+1T7c)
That ability is what scares the daylight out of me.
Posted by: Jen at May 05, 2014 09:02 PM (I+pAz)
The movie Conspiracy, which dealt with the Wannsee Conference at which much of the policy of extermination was set in motion, gives some insight into the bland, bureaucratic banality with which some Germans planned an implemented it. Of course, being German, they took detailed notes, so the whole horrible process is incredibly well-documented and gives the movie a solid grounding in historical fact.
Posted by: CQD at May 05, 2014 05:13 PM (tcvYF)
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Posted by: Damiano at May 05, 2014 05:18 PM (j0wOO)
Did a quick Bing search for "Rialto Interim Superintendent". And yeah, the name is legit. Even though I recognize the TV channel, I still can't entirely shake the idea that the name means the article is a hoax.
In any event, based on a brief skim through of the article I found regarding this guy, it looks like he was brought in by the school district after the previous superintendent embezzled large amounts of money. And investigators noted that there were absolutely positively no e-mails, memos, or other forms of communication surviving that would indicate what had happened.
It sounds like Rialto's got a really great school district.
/sarc off
Posted by: junior at May 05, 2014 05:18 PM (UWFpX)
Errr no. If you insist on attempting to teach reasoning skills you do it with topics like "William Shakespeare, man or myth?" or "Julius Caesar, hero or tyrant?" Anything relevant to current politics is merely an opportunity to propagandize.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at May 05, 2014 05:19 PM (ugaii)
Posted by: palerider at May 05, 2014 05:19 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Norman Bates at May 05, 2014 05:20 PM (8c12T)
Oh, and based on his picture, if Mr. Islam is white, then he's got a very dark tan. His ethnicity isn't obvious, though.
Posted by: junior at May 05, 2014 05:21 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Baldy at May 05, 2014 05:22 PM (2bql3)
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Posted by: WalrusRex at May 05, 2014 05:23 PM (Mogjf)
Posted by: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at May 05, 2014 05:24 PM (TfdkD)
There has been plenty of legit scholarship on those questions. Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder discusses at length how the Nazi intentions for the Jews, at least publicly, evolved over the course of the war. Early on, when they believed they were going to easily crush the Soviets and take all of Europe in short order, the stated intent was mass deportations. Madagascar was a favored destination, although moving over ten million people there would have been likely to kill most of them in transit and by starvation soon after.
'Hitler's Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust' by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen addresses the third question you gave. 'Ordinary Men' by Christopher R. Browning is another work that is referenced in Goldhagen's book.
The book I'm currently reading, 'Operation Paperclip' by Annie Jacobsen also deal heavily with the issue of who knew what and when, in this case the scientists and others who ran so much of the advanced technology portion of the Nazi war apparatus. One interesting detail I'd never heard before was that Werner Von Braun became a born again Christian during his time in Texas at Ft. Bliss.
Posted by: Epobirs at May 05, 2014 05:25 PM (Icq+V)
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Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at May 05, 2014 05:30 PM (yz6yg)
selected that example. But, the JFK assignation should be ok.<<<<<
Errr no. If you insist on attempting to teach reasoning skills you do it with topics like "William Shakespeare, man or myth?" or "Julius Caesar, hero or tyrant?" Anything relevant to current politics is merely an opportunity to propagandize.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living
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I think we should just reset back to Aristotle and start over.
Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2014 05:30 PM (Aqvh6)
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Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 05:34 PM (Q8vlx)
By using said reasoning, you just tested out of the Ed. Dept.
Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2014 05:34 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at May 05, 2014 05:36 PM (Q8vlx)
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 05, 2014 05:37 PM (v3BJ5)
Posted by: Jen at May 05, 2014 05:38 PM (I+pAz)
Posted by: Mohammed Z Islam at May 05, 2014 05:39 PM (3a584)
Posted by: Joseph Goebbels stinking, speaking corpse at May 05, 2014 05:40 PM (Fp7JI)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at May 05, 2014 05:41 PM (kVK9G)
Posted by: RWC at May 05, 2014 05:42 PM (QeH9j)
That's where he flew on that magic horse.
Posted by: Jean at May 05, 2014 05:45 PM (Aqvh6)
Posted by: Mustbequantum at May 05, 2014 05:47 PM (MIKMs)
No one except me saw anything disturbing about that. This is the new normal. I fear we have lost a generation.
Posted by: PJ at May 05, 2014 05:47 PM (ZWaLo)
That ability is what scares the daylight out of me.
Posted by: Jen at May 05, 2014 09:02 PM (I+pAz)
The movie Conspiracy, which dealt with the Wannsee Conference at which much of the policy of extermination was set in motion, gives some insight into the bland, bureaucratic banality with which some Germans planned an implemented it. Of course, being German, they took detailed notes, so the whole horrible process is incredibly well-documented and gives the movie a solid grounding in historical fact."
Read the published solicitation letters from the German manufacturers bidding for the contracts to build the actual ovens and gas chambers.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 05, 2014 05:48 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: cuchieddie at May 05, 2014 05:49 PM (BYOka)
It is truly scary how easy it is for them to *otherize* a group in the minds of the mob and unleash evil.
Posted by: palerider at May 05, 2014 05:51 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Burt Toste at May 05, 2014 05:52 PM (IJxUH)
Posted by: Evil Blogger Lady at May 05, 2014 05:57 PM (UYjru)
Mohammed Zzzyeah, damn right I hate the Jews! Islam. Simple.
Posted by: Oschisms at May 05, 2014 06:05 PM (oSS/M)
Posted by: D-Lamp at May 05, 2014 06:06 PM (bb5+k)
ScoggDog
I'm beginning to conclude this myself. I'm in the middle of reading a "Bohoffer" a biography of a man who opposed the Third Reich in 1930's Germany. The current situation, though no quite parallel, does have disconcerting similarities.
Posted by: LiilyBart at May 05, 2014 06:06 PM (dXCcK)
Posted by: Antonio Gramsci at May 05, 2014 06:12 PM (W6wuT)
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Posted by: Jen at May 05, 2014 06:23 PM (I+pAz)
Posted by: bleck at May 05, 2014 06:26 PM (ruoPh)
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Posted by: katya the designated driver at May 05, 2014 06:39 PM (4Chvm)
And given the high level of bureaucratization in schools, you have to imagine this assignment passed through several levels of multi-party review.
Posted by: ace at May 05, 2014 08:16 PM (/FnUH)
*****
YUP!!!
Also, that interim superintendent who just fell into this mess. You don't get selected as the interim anything unless you were already second in command.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 05, 2014 06:41 PM (z+4T3)
The Holocaust Museums have been featuring lectures and studies regarding the treatment of homosexuals by the Nazi's.
I'm not as convinced of the accuracy of the Pink Swastika as I am of the Holocaust museums extensive research.
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Ernst Rohm was the founder and leader of the SA in Nazi Germany.
"Hitler had long been privately aware that Röhm and his SA associates were homosexuals; In their defense Hitler had stated that 'the SA are a band of warriors and not a moral institution" -Wikipedia
Contrary to liberal belief, there was no widespread persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 05, 2014 06:49 PM (z+4T3)
Posted by: alwyr at May 05, 2014 06:53 PM (V0j3u)
Posted by: Dan Savage at May 05, 2014 06:54 PM (grJ4r)
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Posted by: FOAF at May 06, 2014 06:44 AM (rZ7kp)
With less than 8 weeks to go before permanently concluding my now 4.5 years teaching in government schools, I would impart that Common Core is a sinister perversion of the word education. I'm out. I am getting my kids out. Getting ready for what's coming.
If you have kids in government schools in a Common Core State (which includes any district in the People's Republic of CA), take pity on your kids and get them out. Homeschool or bust. You can do it if you're willing to sacrifice. Take it from a teacher who can no longer deliver this Stalinist agitprop due to matters of conscience. - It's not as bad as they say- it is far, far worse.
Posted by: Gladstone at May 06, 2014 03:42 PM (eNqT6)
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