May 09, 2014

"Community" Cancelled & Other TV Stuff
— Ace

NBC had kept the show on the air despite persistent low ratings because its fan base was intensely, nerdishly loyal -- enough to fill Hall H at Comic-Con (which I guess is a big hall, and thus a big deal).

It also helped that Community was one of those shows that no one watched, but a lot of people wrote about. There are, conversely, shows that a great many people watch, but no one writes about, such as NCIS.

NBC kept the show on the air, sort of, sometimes airing it in the winter or spring, and usually putting it up against the hugest show on TV, The Big Bang Theory, which is also, of course, a comedy. (Why they didn't put it up against, say, CSI, to benefit from some counter-programming placement, I don't know.)

In any event, after five seasons, most of which were abbreviated (only 13 or so shows being ordered instead of a more typical 22), they've finally pulled the plug.

I speculated a while ago that if Arrested Development had been on, now, rather than back in 2003, it never would have gone out of production. Fox would have cancelled it, sure, but Netflix, or Amazon, or even Hulu would have begun producing the show.

Community is that type of show, with a loyal (if small) fan base, so we'll see if my speculation has any merit to it.

In other TV news, Fox will begin airing Gotham, a show set in Batman's Gotham City, but Before Batman. The show will follow young-ish cop Jim Gordon and also a 12 year old Bruce Wayne. (Trailer below the fold.)

The creator, who also created Rome and The Mentalist, sings the praises of his own show:

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: My assumption has been that the reason this TV show can be done — rights-wise — is because Batman himself is not in it. That way, it doesn’t overlap with any films. Is that correct?

BRUNO HELLER: Certainly from Warner Bros. and DC’s business point of view, that’s why it can be done. For me, if they said, “Do Batman,” I would have said, “No.” I would have not been interested at all. I don’t think Batman works very well on TV — to have people behind masks. Frankly, all those superhero stories I’ve seen, I always love them until they get into the costume. And then it’s, “Oh, okay, they’ve ascended, they’ve stopped becoming humans.” It’s their apotheosis. They go to heaven and they’re Superman. There have been so many great versions of it. This is a version of something else entirely.

...

I’ve been talking to Geoff Johns at DC for a few years about wanting to do something in the DC canon. I came in to pitch the idea that we’re doing, essentially, and they came to pitch me the same thing. The nut of the idea was: What if young James Gordon was the detective who investigated the murder of Bruce Wayne’s parents? And once you make that connection, it opened up a whole world of storytelling that we realized hadn’t really been looked at before, which is the world before Batman — the world of Gotham, young Bruce Wayne, and young James Gordon and the origin stories of the villains.

ABC has renewed Agents of SHIELD despite so-so ratings, but then, the network has reasons besides ratings to keep the show on the dial, as it helps promote all of its parent company's Avengers-related movies.

Incidentally, while Agents of SHIELD began as sub-mediocre show, it got more interesting at season's end, when the HYDRA conspiracy within SHIELD revealed itself, timed, almost to the minute, with the same event happening in the Captain America movie. This is a geek triumph: Comic book continuity applied to comic book tv shows and movies.

Oh, and if you were a fan of "Peggy Carter" in the first Captain America film, and/or found Haley Atwell to be beyond hot, you might be happy to know ABC has now also picked up Agent Carter, about the character's work as a secret agent (alongside Howard Stark) in 1946.

Meanwhile, Marvel is filming not one but four new superhero series for Netfilx: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, and Daredevil.

I think the idea is that they'll also do a mini-series called The Defenders in which these characters team-up, like B-Team Avengers.

By the way I really have no idea who "Jessica Jones" is but spoiler alert she ultimately marries Luke Cage.

Oh, and of course The Flash is coming up on CW. (Video of his origin, which was already shown on the Green Arrow companion series, below.)

I really think this market is oversaturated, or, given the genre, super-saturated. I like superhero stuff, and yet I personally think this is all excessive.

I mean, this is ridiculous. Secondary players (Jim Gordon, Peggy Carter) are now getting their own series.

Fall 2014 will feature three series (3!) centered around people who have merely met superheroes.

Coming soon: Jimmy Olsen, Boy Reporter.


Skip to 1:30 to see Barry Allen get hit by lightning, chemicals, and presumably Particle Acceleration Accident Radiation:


Posted by: Ace at 11:38 AM | Comments (357)
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1 In before the guy who got rid of cable!

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 11:41 AM (eEBON)

2 in before Vic!

Posted by: mallfly at May 09, 2014 11:42 AM (bJm7W)

3 NERDS!

Posted by: Frederick W. Palowaski at May 09, 2014 11:42 AM (QupBk)

4 When do we hit Peak Superhero?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 11:42 AM (ZPrif)

5 Ace you must have read the opening post for the news thread:


Good Morning Morons.  Today is Friday, May 09, 2014.  On this day in 1961 FCC Chairman Newton N. Minow gave his Wasteland Speech.  In that speech he invited people to sit down for a full day of TV and look at what he called a vast wasteland of crap (words to that affect).  What would he say today?  TV programming in 1961 was much better than the utter crap we have now.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 09, 2014 11:42 AM (T2V/1)

6 2 in before Vic!

Posted by: mallfly at May 09, 2014 03:42 PM (bJm7W)


Only because I took time to go get that post.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 09, 2014 11:43 AM (T2V/1)

7 Anybody else tiring of the comic genre?

Posted by: chocolatepretzel at May 09, 2014 11:44 AM (6VJV0)

8 I Barnaby Jones still on?  It's a Quinn Martin production.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 11:44 AM (eEBON)

9 In before the Get-Serious-Ace guy.

Posted by: toby928© at May 09, 2014 11:44 AM (QupBk)

10 6?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 11:44 AM (gOoFi)

11 They are going to introduce "baby joker" as well. Facepalm right there. "Yo dawg, I heard you like shark jumps. We put a shark jumping shark on top of your shark jump, so when you are jumping sharks you can jump shark jumping sharks!"

Posted by: Max Power at May 09, 2014 11:44 AM (q177U)

12

I really like Community, but it's admittedly weird. Dan Harmon, the creator and his writers, are pretty brilliant, but Harmon often butted heads with Chevy Chase, and Harmon was fired from his own show.

 

It seemed rather doomed from the start. One of my favorite features in the DVD sets are Dan's interviews with the cast.

Posted by: Artie Cognomen at May 09, 2014 11:44 AM (RwwCT)

13 God damn I can't count today.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 11:44 AM (gOoFi)

14 Reason to watch "Arrow" - two words: salmon ladder.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 09, 2014 11:44 AM (8zTpe)

15 >>>TV programming in 1961 was much better than the utter crap we have now. in what way? TV has always been pretty dumb. In fact, all entertainment, period, has always been pretty dumb. Everyone always thinks that music/movies/tv was always "the best" at the very time they were 12-17 year olds. Because that's really the last time any of us really, really super-cared about this dumb stuff.

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 11:45 AM (/FnUH)

16 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 11:45 AM (PYAXX)

17 Nobody ever approaches me about making a pilot. I'm starting to suspect homophobia.

Posted by: Aquaman at May 09, 2014 11:45 AM (8ZskC)

18 Speaking of "in" I want to get "it" stuck in with that cuties with the pony tail and glasses.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 09, 2014 11:45 AM (T2V/1)

19 My wife and I love Community.  It's nice to now have zero attachments to NBC.

Posted by: Nate in NOLA at May 09, 2014 11:46 AM (lhX9P)

20 A 12 year-old Bruce Wayne? I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at May 09, 2014 11:46 AM (8ZskC)

21 >>>7 Anybody else tiring of the comic genre? yeah... and I like this stuff, I have to stress. I really like all this crap, but I'm kind of embarrassed. I almost feel like *I had something to do with this,* and that I should apologize to the world for what I've done.

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 11:46 AM (/FnUH)

22 >>>My wife and I love Community. It's nice to now have zero attachments to NBC. i never said so due to my NBC boycott but I think it might be my favorite show, and this last season was brilliant. (Well, the first half of the season was brilliant; the second half was mediocre.)

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 11:47 AM (/FnUH)

23 I watched the first season of "Community." I liked it fine but it never pulled me in.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 11:47 AM (gOoFi)

24 TV has always been pretty dumb. In fact, all entertainment, period, has always been pretty dumb. Philistine.

Posted by: Milo Moire at May 09, 2014 11:47 AM (8ZskC)

25 Figures, I finally write a funny comment, and a new thread appears.

Posted by: Hadoop at May 09, 2014 11:48 AM (Ph479)

26 It's time for a new space opera. CJ Cherryh has a host of books that could easily be adapted.

Posted by: toby928© at May 09, 2014 11:48 AM (QupBk)

27 Ace, here is a listing of the shows from the 60s.  The worst one on there is better than anything they have now.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 09, 2014 11:48 AM (T2V/1)

28 Oh, and in fictional world universes, the new Star Wars animated series Rebels is coming out soon. Trend is toward owning large "universes" that can spawn off movies, tv shows, books, comics, etc for generations and decades. Disney now owns Marvel and Star Wars. And the original Disney universe. Warner Brothers has DC. Who has Star Trek? This trend seems to be getting stronger and is a huge cash cow. Disney also has the ever growing Pixar universe. I expect we'll get Pixar team-ups in the future someday.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 11:48 AM (ZPrif)

29 OK this is weird. I googled "jimmy olson tv show" and it doesn't even EXIST!!! Ace, this is our chance to get in on the ground floor. It will be more popular than Ninja Horse http://preview.tinyurl.com/m3tv7br

Posted by: Max Power at May 09, 2014 11:48 AM (q177U)

30 "Nobody ever approaches me about making a pilot. I'm starting to suspect homophobia" Ya know, they never called us either. All we ever got were those crappy shorts on SNL.

Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Duo at May 09, 2014 11:48 AM (gOoFi)

31 >>>Who has Star Trek? paramount, I'm 99% sure.

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 11:49 AM (/FnUH)

32 7 Anybody else tiring of the comic genre? yeah... and I like this stuff, I have to stress. I really like all this crap, but I'm kind of embarrassed. __ Two words: The Rabbids Invasion on Nickelodeon. You can scrape up a couple episodes off Hulu. Snort warning.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 11:49 AM (x3YFz)

33 7 Anybody else tiring of the comic genre? Posted by: chocolatepretzel at May 09, 2014 03:44 PM (6VJV0)


Me.  I'm also burned out on "anti-hero" genre.  I'm all for flawed, multi-dimensional characters, but I'm pretty sick of being asked to root for bad guys doing evil things just because they are clever or funny or attractive.

Posted by: not the mama at May 09, 2014 11:49 AM (5dxeo)

34 i watched all the seasons but the one before last.....it was funny....then it wasn't

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at May 09, 2014 11:49 AM (u8GsB)

35 10 TOP-RATED TV SERIES, 1950-1981

OCTOBER, 1961-APRIL, 1962

1. Wagon Train NBC 32.1

2. Bonanza NBC 30.0

3. Gunsmoke CBS 28.3

4. Hazel NBC 27.7

5. Perry Mason CBS 27.3

 

6. The Red Skelton Show CBS 27.1

7. The Andy Griffith Show CBS 27.0

8. The Danny Thomas Show CBS 26.1

9. Dr. Kildare NBC 25.6

10. Candid Camera CBS 25.5

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 11:49 AM (eEBON)

36 Agree wholeheartedly on the up-tick in the quality of Agents of Shield. Once they started tying in Winter Soldier it really picked up. Had previously tied in Thor the Dark World (a little) and had Lady Sif in for a good episode. As for Agent Carter, Haley Atwell is bad; very, very bad and must be punished. I volunteer.

Posted by: duke at May 09, 2014 11:49 AM (d3clc)

37 >>>>21 yeah... and I like this stuff, I have to stress. I really like all this crap, but I'm kind of embarrassed. I almost feel like *I had something to do with this,* and that I should apologize to the world for what I've done. ---- It's the overabundance that kills it. Too much destroys the magic.

Posted by: chocolatepretzel at May 09, 2014 11:49 AM (6VJV0)

38 Figures, I finally write a funny comment, and a new thread appears. Posted by: Hadoop at May 09, 2014 03:48 PM (Ph479) get used to it.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 11:49 AM (x3YFz)

39 I'm waiting for the super hero The Mooche Her superpower is she can unhinge her jaw and eating whole cars

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 09, 2014 11:50 AM (aYJgz)

40 re 6: Vic, I figured you were an early bird and wouldn't be back till tomorrow am. anyway, there's always this: http://tinyurl.com/5b8o4j

Posted by: mallfly at May 09, 2014 11:50 AM (bJm7W)

41 I watched the first season of Arrow. I'm with Lizzy on the salmon ladder. I guess I'll catch up this summer with the episodes I've missed.

Posted by: no good deed at May 09, 2014 11:50 AM (ILBCY)

42 Me. I'm also burned out on "anti-hero" genre. I'm all for flawed, multi-dimensional characters, but I'm pretty sick of being asked to root for bad guys doing evil things just because they are clever or funny or attractive.

Then most of contemporary television and film.

Posted by: Hadoop at May 09, 2014 11:50 AM (Ph479)

43 >>> watched all the seasons but the one before last.....it was funny....then it wasn't well they fired Dan Harmon and a key, top writer (Chris McKenna) that season, and had some scrubs fill in (poorly). Harmon and McKenna came back for season 5.

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 11:51 AM (/FnUH)

44

A 12 year-old Bruce Wayne?

Batsignal.  In my pants.

Posted by: Sen. Harry Reid


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 11:51 AM (kdS6q)

45 I'm enjoying the hell out of the new Fargo series.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 11:51 AM (eEBON)

46 I'm still waiting for Gay Divorce Court.

Posted by: wth at May 09, 2014 11:52 AM (wAQA5)

47 I've been binge watching The Tudors again. That's quality TV.

Posted by: toby928© at May 09, 2014 11:52 AM (QupBk)

48 I speak Jive if that helps? http://tinyurl.com/6uqqgpt

Posted by: Mrs Cleaver at May 09, 2014 11:52 AM (0FSuD)

49 "I'm enjoying the hell out of the new Fargo series." That is good. Thornton's a moron but the dude can entertain.

Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Duo at May 09, 2014 11:52 AM (gOoFi)

50 I agree--this stuff is getting too saturated.  Which is always the problem. 

The entertainment industry is ruled by businessmen, who aren't creative.  (Neither are the writers or directors or actors, but let that pass).  So when The Avengers is huge, they say "Let's have MORE and MORE and MORE of that, because there's no such thing as Franchise Fatigue."

And what you end up with is Franchise Fatigue, when it's all just identical garbage churned out by Michael Bay and Ehren Kruger.  And Hollywood wonders why no one is going to see Booster Gold Part Six.

Posted by: Null at May 09, 2014 11:52 AM (DuH+r)

51

I liked Community, but it's always been a weird show with occasional moments of brilliance. 

 

I definitely would like to see more growth of Hulu, Netflix, etc, where shows like that can flourish. 

 

I hate NCIS and pretty much anything on CBS.  Even TBBT needs to wrap up soon. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 11:52 AM (tIvOy)

52 45 I'm enjoying the hell out of the new Fargo series. Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 03:51 PM (eEBON) us too!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at May 09, 2014 11:52 AM (u8GsB)

53 I watched the first season of Arrow. I'm with Lizzy on the salmon ladder. I guess I'll catch up this summer with the episodes I've missed. Posted by: no good deed at May 09, 2014 03:50 PM (ILBCY) We were hooked on it until The Arrow turned into The Emotionally Conflicted Wuss. And the "save This City!" line grates on my nerves. His little blonde assistant is hothothot though (I watched 3 more episodes past f-it just because of her)

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 11:53 AM (x3YFz)

54 Damn, did this entire post remind me of just how culturally unaware I am. The only one of those shows I've ever even heard of is Big Bang Theory and that's just because it has that weird guy who looks like a ghey mental patient who I hate with a passion. I'm so culturally Amish, I just wait for other people to tell me what I might like, and then after the show finishes its run, I check out an episode or two and see if I like it. Which is why I am just now, in 2014, just getting into Burn Notice.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 09, 2014 11:53 AM (7ObY1)

55 Ace, here is a listing of the shows from the 60s. The worst one on there is better than anything they have now. Posted by: Vic at May 09, 2014 03:48 PM (T2V/1) So gong show beats Sherlock. Got it Vic.

Posted by: Max Power at May 09, 2014 11:53 AM (q177U)

56

I don't think I've watched a first-run episode of anything since House MD went to sh!t in the fifth season.

 

With Archer and Always Sunny, I wait for the DVD release and watch at my leisure.

 

I don't watch any of the major nets anymore, except for hockey and football.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at May 09, 2014 11:53 AM (9TK8E)

57 Remember those daytime soap operas that housewives got hooked on? "Days of our Lives", "As the World Turns". . ya them. It's an emotional thing. Hollywood constructs a fictional universe populated with fictional characters and audience forms an emotion bond with those characters. You want to see the hero win, you want to see JR Ewing get his just desserts, you want him shot, and then when it happens, you want to know who shot JR? It's really heavy duty psychology. It's manipulative.

Posted by: The Hoser at May 09, 2014 11:53 AM (u6gWL)

58 More bread with my circuses?


YES!

Posted by: LIV #4679671 at May 09, 2014 11:53 AM (5ikDv)

59 This post needs more Cake Girl.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2014 11:54 AM (cOOb+)

60 I need a superhero called Flonase and his sidekick Sandpaper...for my itchy, runny eyeballs.

Posted by: Framp at May 09, 2014 11:54 AM (Xv7f/)

61 Wiki gods say Paramount owns Trek film rights, CBS owns Trek TV rights. Viacom used to own both, but Viacom split up in 2005 and the rights were divided. That makes the universe building across all media -- like Marvel and DC are doing -- much harder. Marvel's trick with the Capt America movie influencing the plot of the Shield TV show is pretty innovative.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 11:54 AM (ZPrif)

62
I'm waiting for the super hero The Mooche
Her superpower is she can unhinge her jaw and eating whole cars

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 09, 2014 03:50 PM (aYJgz)


It's gonna be called Twatmaster of the Universe.

Posted by: YIKES! at May 09, 2014 11:54 AM (mETGQ)

63 Personally I liked the Jimmy Olsen of the DC Comics.  He's never been done right in any of the films or TV shows.  Jimmy was smart and brave, a good investigative journalist (back when that term meant something), and good detective skills.  Remember, he had his own comic, and a lot of adventures in his own right, separate from Superman.

I identified with him because he (a) didn't have super-powers, and (b) was closer to my age (9-10) than the older heroes.

Michael J. Fox when he was young, "Back to the Future" --  he'd have made a great Jimmy Olsen.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 11:54 AM (GqXWW)

64 Hated It! Glad it's gone!

Posted by: NBC Sucks at May 09, 2014 11:54 AM (2WfWF)

65 I mean, this is ridiculous. Secondary players (Jim Gordon, Peggy Carter) are now getting their own series. Actually, I disagree. In the case of Gotham and Agent Carter, I can kind of see your point (though: CSI:Gotham City would be pretty cool). OTOH, Green Arrow, Flash, Luke Cage (Power Man), Ironfist, etc. are all heroes who have their own comic books. Luke Cage is one of the Avengers in the current comics. Green Arrow has been a member of the Justice League for a long time, and Flash was one of the founding members. To me, this is like a freaking candy-store. More options is better. As long as they're well written/produced/acted, I'm good. I've watched some Arrow (they quit calling it Green Arrow pretty quick, I think), and it's very well done. Agents of SHIELD was fun (I got caught doing other things midway through the season, so now I have to find some way to catch up). If they're well done, I don't think there's a problem with over-saturation. If they're poorly done (like that abomination The Cape), then they should DIAF.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 11:54 AM (PYAXX)

66 Any movement on the Knight Train series, Ace?

Posted by: toby928© at May 09, 2014 11:54 AM (QupBk)

67 Here's a concept... Batman and Robin: A Batcave, A Batshower, and A Bottle of Jesus Juice

Posted by: Hairy Reed Productions at May 09, 2014 11:55 AM (8ZskC)

68 Also, we're about 3/4 of the way through the first season of Orphan Black, which is pretty good.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 11:55 AM (eEBON)

69 We cancelled it because Joel mocked Obama and the Dems in 25% of his jokes at the Press Club dinner. NBC can't afford an audit right now.

Posted by: network suit at May 09, 2014 11:55 AM (5AsM2)

70 get used to it.

My lifetime goal is to be the first to comment on a thread by writing "first". There seems to be a sense of accomplishment for achieving such a wondrous feat.

Posted by: Hadoop at May 09, 2014 11:55 AM (Ph479)

71 I hate NCIS and pretty much anything on CBS. Even TBBT needs to wrap up soon. Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 03:52 PM (tIvOy) hmm. I very much liked NCIS. Gibbs' rules and all that...touchy IDF chick, comedic male eye-candy co-star for the girls. To each their own.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 11:55 AM (x3YFz)

72 The new the next season of survived to be on the south side of Chicago All the contestants will be rich white kids

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 09, 2014 11:55 AM (aYJgz)

73 i love the show called "the people's couch" it's people in their own home watching shows & commenting on them..... i want to be on the next show "the people's couch watching the people's couch"

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at May 09, 2014 11:55 AM (u8GsB)

74 Warehouse 13. Don't start in the middle, you have to watch it from season 1.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 11:56 AM (x3YFz)

75 TV? *yawns* [soundtrack for yawn: http://preview.tinyurl.com/oneybpw]

Posted by: We gotta hav dat funk at May 09, 2014 11:56 AM (1/4XQ)

76 Days of our Lives"? I think this is the soap that half the fraternities at UNC watched and bet on who would break up or something. Those guys were ghey before ghey was in.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 09, 2014 11:56 AM (0FSuD)

77 Harmon's new show, Rick and Morty is incredibly funny. Way better than Community ever was imo. Mostly because fuck Chevy Chase. And Agents of Shield actually got really good just before Cap America 2 and seems like to be ending their run on a strong note. Hope next season is planned way better than making everyone wait 4 months and multiple hiatuses for the show to hit its stride.

Posted by: Gaff at May 09, 2014 11:56 AM (uh3SH)

78 With the exception of SHIELD, i think I've watched about 5 minutes of all those TV shows mentioned combined. Give me some Monk reruns & a bourbon/ginger - I'm happy.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 09, 2014 11:56 AM (uOtWx)

79

Coming up next: Cerebus the Earth Pig

Posted by: Bigby's Inflamed Hands at May 09, 2014 11:56 AM (3ZtZW)

80 I only watched this last season on community. But as achmed says, if they don't come back, the universe ended for "it is canon". lol nerds love discussing canon.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 09, 2014 11:57 AM (FQLT3)

81 "i love the show called "the people's couch" it's people in their own home watching shows & commenting on them....." MST3K?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 11:57 AM (gOoFi)

82 I donÂ’t think Batman works very well on TV This is retarded. Batman only survived and became popular because of the 60s TV show. Otherwise he'd be like a couple other crime fighters from the 30s - obsolete. Yeah, it was campy, but um, the comic was for a long time too.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 09, 2014 11:57 AM (TAP/5)

83 i want to be on the next show "the people's couch watching the people's couch"

Recursive Nielson?

Posted by: Hadoop at May 09, 2014 11:57 AM (Ph479)

84 i want to be on the next show "the people's couch watching the people's couch" Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at May 09, 2014 03:55 PM (u8GsB) reality show about watching a reality show. /facepalm

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 11:57 AM (x3YFz)

85 I'm waiting for the super hero The Mooche Mooch woman, Mooch woman Does whatever a moocher can Toned arms, got 'em bub She's got affirmative action blood Look out...here comes the Mooch woman

Posted by: Citizen X at May 09, 2014 11:57 AM (7ObY1)

86
As for Agent Carter, Haley Atwell is bad; very, very bad and must be punished. I volunteer.
Posted by: duke




If Disney-Marvel was smart --- and hetrosexual -- the show would consist of just Haley wearing different '40s outfits for 60 minutes and looking pretty.

With of course the occasional artistically relevant snood scene.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 11:58 AM (kdS6q)

87 Being part of a larger fictional universe means higher returns even for lower rated crap. There's just more ways to monetize the end product, and over a longer period of time. Shield would already be canceled if it wasn't part of the larger Marvel universe. It helps "grow the brand" and the obsessives will have to buy all the DVDs and blu-rays and watch them all. Synergy, bitchez!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 11:58 AM (ZPrif)

88 J. Jonah Jameson, Newsie.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 09, 2014 11:58 AM (ZshNr)

89 MST3K? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 03:57 PM (gOoFi) kind of....mmst3k is moar funny

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at May 09, 2014 11:58 AM (u8GsB)

90 Now is the perfect time to begin preproduction on Saffron: Intergalactic Space Whore. Mad Men is winding down so Hendricks is gonna need a new gig.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2014 11:58 AM (TIIx5)

91

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17Nobody ever approaches me about making a pilot. I'm starting to suspect homophobia.

Posted by: Aquaman at May 09, 2014 03:45 PM (8ZskC)

 

 

----------------------

 

Not true.  Aquaman did get his own live-action pilot.  It's even on YouTube (or was).  It was apparently created while Smallville was airing.  Nothing ever came of it, though.

 

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2014 11:58 AM (UWFpX)

92 Can we have a superhero channel so that we can watch superheros all the time? The SHC. I predict much success.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2014 11:58 AM (IN7k+)

93 Which is why I am just now, in 2014, just getting into Burn Notice. Posted by: Citizen X at May 09, 2014 03:53 PM (7ObY1) I guess that means you'll be drinking your first Mojito soon.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 09, 2014 11:58 AM (agLwc)

94 Seriously morons. You morons watch fucking TV series? I am feeling better about myself for just watching pron.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 09, 2014 11:59 AM (0FSuD)

95 The Koch Brothers are responsible!

Posted by: Harry Reid at May 09, 2014 11:59 AM (AiYlm)

96 The producer should match up Haley Atwell with Paula Patton as buddy spies, and every show should make sure to have at least one side-boob shot. I'd watch that show.

Posted by: MTF at May 09, 2014 11:59 AM (F58x4)

97

@28 Who has Star Trek?

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Paramount.

 

iirc, MGM had Stargate, which spawned three different TV series.  But I might have heard that they got rid of it after Universe flopped.

 

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2014 12:00 PM (UWFpX)

98 Reboot Manimal. Or The Phoenix. Or that show with the family that goes through the portal in the Great Pyramid and ends up on some alternate Earth.

Posted by: toby928© at May 09, 2014 12:00 PM (QupBk)

99

>>>You can scrape up a couple episodes off Hulu.

 

Wish someone would post up Eek! the Cat. Thems were teh funneh

Posted by: Bigby's Inflamed Hands at May 09, 2014 12:00 PM (3ZtZW)

100 Yeah, there's a lot of super-hero shows now, but I am so dang sick of police procedurals. And like others, I just can't get into rooting for anti-heroes like Dexter, Tony Soprano, etc. Vikings and the Walking Dead are good, too. Still need to check out TURN.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 09, 2014 12:00 PM (8zTpe)

101 You morons watch fucking TV series? I am feeling better about myself for just watching pron. Posted by: Nip Sip at May 09, 2014 03:59 PM (0FSuD) You can only get so much entertainment out of clubbing hippies.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:00 PM (x3YFz)

102 Not sure how it happened, but we probably watch more reality TV than anything else.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:00 PM (eEBON)

103 Wicked Tuna is the only show I refuse to miss.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2014 12:01 PM (cOOb+)

104 Retarded Time Tunnel!

Posted by: Hadoop at May 09, 2014 12:01 PM (Ph479)

105 1961 had Rawhide.. And Gunsmoke. And Bonanza. and Wagon Train. And Rifleman. I'd take it.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2014 12:01 PM (oMKp3)

106 In the future we'll get Warehouse 13 -- except they'll be official archivists for Shield or WayneTech or something. Everything will tie into everything. They'll be a Marvel channel which just shows inter-connected Marvel movies and TV shows 24/7. Keeping the plotlines straight will literally be beyond the ability of any human to keep track of, so the shows will be written by hyper-intelligent AIs from DARPA.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 12:01 PM (ZPrif)

107 @99 I've been living in a bizarre alternate universe since late April 1972. Film at 11.

Posted by: Another Truman Show at May 09, 2014 12:02 PM (1/4XQ)

108 Not sure how it happened, but we probably watch more reality TV than anything else. Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 04:00 PM (eEBON) No judgement from me, so don't take this wrong: Turn that shit off!

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:02 PM (x3YFz)

109 You can only get so much entertainment out of clubbing hippies. Posted by: tangonine ------------------ Maybe..., but the Democratic Convention in 1968 was one hell of a good time.

Posted by: Chicago Cop at May 09, 2014 12:02 PM (aDwsi)

110 Then most of contemporary television and film.

Posted by: Hadoop at May 09, 2014 03:50 PM (Ph479)

Yeah, most, but not all.  On Game of Thrones I get to root for Tyrion, who is flawed but generally a good guy and Jon Snow of the know nothings, and minor characters like Brianne and Pod.   That show (and the books) are freaking depressing, but at least there's a glimmer of hope on them that not everybody is an evil rat bastard and might triumph over evil.

Posted by: not the mama at May 09, 2014 12:02 PM (5dxeo)

111 Everyone always thinks that music/movies/tv was always "the best" at the very time they were 12-17 year olds.

There is some of that. But, I think it is more that when people talk about what was on TV or in the theaters in 1961 or 1981 or whenever, they are talking about the hits, or the stuff that was artistically well done. They just don't have in their mind all the shows that failed and died a deserved death.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2014 12:02 PM (IN7k+)

112 Rat Patrol is due for a big screen remake.

Posted by: toby928© at May 09, 2014 12:02 PM (QupBk)

113 SHIELD has been grand from the start -- at first a modern day answer to "Man from U.N.C.L.E." (Ixquick it), and then turning darker and even more surprising.  I'm tired of the endless "member of the main team is a traitor" trope, but they've done it well, and kept the humor to the right places. 

(I still think Fitz and Simmons act like a long-married couple.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:02 PM (GqXWW)

114

>>>I'm still waiting for Gay Divorce Court.

 

I liked the previews where the  homophobe bailiff was all Don't touch me!

Posted by: Bigby's Inflamed Hands at May 09, 2014 12:02 PM (3ZtZW)

115 21 >>>7 Anybody else tiring of the comic genre?  yeah... and I like this stuff, I have to stress. I really like all this crap, but I'm kind of embarrassed.  I almost feel like *I had something to do with this,* and that I should apologize to the world for what I've done.  Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 03:46 PM (/FnUH) ---------- Well, I hope you had nothing to do with that hatchet job they did on Ghost Rider - that was my favorite as a kid. I bet now you're going to tell me that you'll figure out a way to F up "Red Sonya"

Posted by: shredded chi at May 09, 2014 12:02 PM (uOtWx)

116 You can only get so much entertainment out of clubbing hippies. Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 04:00 PM (x3YFz) Who says?

Posted by: The Koch Brothers at May 09, 2014 12:03 PM (0FSuD)

117 Maybe..., but the Democratic Convention in 1968 was one hell of a good time. Posted by: Chicago Cop at May 09, 2014 04:02 PM (aDwsi) ahhhhh...the good old days.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:03 PM (x3YFz)

118

Keeping the plotlines straight will literally be beyond the ability of any human to keep track of, so the shows will be written by hyper-intelligent AIs from DARPA.

 

You underestimate the power of the virgin geek.  Deep inside his lair in the bowels of his parents' basement, he will pick out the smallest flaws in the storyline using only the power of his Mountain Dew and Cheeto-addled brain.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 12:03 PM (tIvOy)

119 My feeling on the all-superhero-all-the-time trend is that it reflects and feeds the notion that man (individuals, or even small groups) is powerless to stop evil. And since there's no god to appeal to.... bah. like I said, it's just a feeling, not a thought. However, I prefer my superhero's to be armed with 44 magnums and epic quotes.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 09, 2014 12:04 PM (agLwc)

120 Community never made me laugh once. Not even a titter. And I'm prone to tittering.

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2014 12:04 PM (GXZgZ)

121 113 Come on man. A few of those early Shield episode are abysmal. Especially episode 2. I am glad they at least were smart enough to tie all those monster of the week episodes together into the main storyline so they're not completely without merit though.

Posted by: Gaff at May 09, 2014 12:05 PM (uh3SH)

122
No judgement from me, so don't take this wrong:

Turn that shit off!

Posted by: tangonine

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I can't help myself.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:05 PM (eEBON)

123 >>>There is some of that. But, I think it is more that when people talk about what was on TV or in the theaters in 1961 or 1981 or whenever, they are talking about the hits, or the stuff that was artistically well done. They just don't have in their mind all the shows that failed and died a deserved death. right, that's huge. Someone who loves eighties music will talk about the good songs, and conveniently forget that most of the songs were actually like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp1dfoTV_z4

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 12:05 PM (/FnUH)

124
Rat Patrol is due for a big screen remake.
Posted by: toby928©




Our times cry out for a gritty realistic remake of F Troop.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 12:05 PM (kdS6q)

125 Ponder:

A Hayley Atwell and Kate Beckinsale sandwich.


Posted by: grognard at May 09, 2014 12:05 PM (/29Nl)

126

Coming soon: Jimmy Olsen, Boy Reporter.

I'll be in my bunk

Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast at May 09, 2014 12:05 PM (kFxpe)

127 And like others, I just can't get into rooting for anti-heroes like Dexter, Tony Soprano, etc. This. In fact, if I have a problem with Arrow, it's that he's too quick to kill bad guys. One thing that I think Marvel got right with its Avengers Universe properties is that the heroes are all... heroes. Even Tony Stark "billionaire, playboy, philanthropist," is a hero- if one who's a little to full of himself. They're not "dark," they're not "anti-heroes," and they're not massively conflicted about their abilities/place-in-life/or whatever. They're just heroes. Steve Rogers is a frickin' D&D Paladin; he's so bright and shiny he'll give you eye-strain.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 12:05 PM (PYAXX)

128 I think I saw a comment like this in regards to the "Star Wars Sucks" column:

"you know what [costume designer] was doing at 23? He was inventing, designing and building Bobba Fett. Not going to some fucking comic-con dressed as Bobba Fett."

Creating new content is work; why go through all that when you can get praise for copying someone else's work?

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 09, 2014 12:05 PM (VjL9S)

129 For those who like "Community" and Dan Harmon's writing- you might give "Rick and Morty" a shot on Cartoon Network during Adult Swim. Usually 3-4 really good laughs per show(tho not always)- plus clever writing and plots. Rick is an alcoholic, super-genius who is grandfather to Morty an average kid. They go on adventures through space and time and every so often wind up destroying the world. If that sounds like your kind of thing, check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2014 12:05 PM (0cMkb)

130

I'm a big fan of Arrow, even with some of the emotional stuff.  It works in the case of the story, and the payoff next week looks like it will be good.

 

In fact, the CW does a bunch of good shows.  Arrow, Supernatural, hell even The 100 is good. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 12:06 PM (tIvOy)

131 Not even a titter. And I'm prone to tittering. Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2014 04:04 PM (GXZgZ) wow there's low hanging fruit for the Horde.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:06 PM (x3YFz)

132 Of that Top 10 from 1961-62, I think "Bonanza" might still hold up, and I know "Perry Mason" does.  Red Skelton I don't remember well, but he might still make me laugh today.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:06 PM (GqXWW)

133 I think the all superhero trend is mainly a result of VFX finally getting good enough to make superhero movies that don't look retarded. And in the future we'll have NCIS: Marvel -- cops who handle superhero related crime.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 12:06 PM (ZPrif)

134 If I had a time machine I would Bring. Back. Deadwood

Posted by: fabio at May 09, 2014 12:06 PM (uxJMc)

135 I want to start and star in a reality show like kitchen nightmares and bar rescue I'll call it Whorehouse Rescue The stress test will be great!!! "You call that a blowjob?" SHUT IT DOWN!!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 09, 2014 12:06 PM (CPoFy)

136 Say, friends, have you tried TV on the radio? http://preview.tinyurl.com/ygew3lj

Posted by: The Golden Age of TV is on the radio at May 09, 2014 12:06 PM (1/4XQ)

137 right, that's huge. Someone who loves eighties music will talk about the good songs, and conveniently forget that most of the songs were actually like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp1dfoTV_z4 Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 04:05 PM (/FnUH) Has dri been properly punished for linking that Eagles tune in the sidebar?

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2014 12:07 PM (cOOb+)

138 Dr. Kildare was on in 1961. I had the biggest crush on him.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2014 12:07 PM (oMKp3)

139


In fact, if I have a problem with Arrow, it's that he's too quick to kill bad guys. One thing that I think Marvel got right with its Avengers Universe properties is that the heroes are all... heroes. Even Tony Stark "billionaire, playboy, philanthropist," is a hero- if one who's a little to full of himself.

 

They actually did a good job, I think, of dealing with that.  He was quick to kill bad guys in the first season, and the result was that it turned people against him.  This second season he's been a lot more hesitant, even when killing them would be justified.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 12:07 PM (tIvOy)

140 A Hayley Atwell and Kate Beckinsale sandwich. Bunk.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 12:08 PM (PYAXX)

141 That's not fair, ace! Take this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXOKPRqIEwc

Posted by: Hadoop at May 09, 2014 12:08 PM (Ph479)

142 and Lennox Lewis

Posted by: fabio at May 09, 2014 12:08 PM (uxJMc)

143 I would like to see "Greatest American Hero" resurrected.  Great show.  Funny.  Great theme song.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at May 09, 2014 12:08 PM (jucos)

144 121 113

Come on man. A few of those early Shield episode are abysmal. Especially episode 2.

I am glad they at least were smart enough to tie all those monster of the week episodes together into the main storyline so they're not completely without merit though.
*
*
Yeah, but they were just feeling their way at first.  And hey, to me the best episodes of "X-Files" were the ones that explored odd corners of the world, not the endless conspiracy-draggers.  SHIELD did those well.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:08 PM (GqXWW)

145 They need to bring back Matt Houston.

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2014 12:08 PM (cOOb+)

146
Kryptonite Nazis was my 8th grade made up story for writing class.  I think the time is right to sell the rights.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 09, 2014 12:08 PM (hJauc)

147 Can we please have one decent sketch comedy show? All there is right now is the dying corpse of Saturday Night Live, which has gone on far past its sell-by date.

Posted by: MTF at May 09, 2014 12:08 PM (F58x4)

148 If I had a time machine I would Bring. Back. Deadwood Posted by: fabio at May 09, 2014 04:06 PM (uxJMc) Was excellent. But they stuck so close to history too quickly. They introduced fast-running plotlines and gave the show an expiration date.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:09 PM (x3YFz)

149 I guess no one watched "Surviving Jack". Funny sitcom with actual non-retarded father. FOX cancelled it this week. Too bad.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2014 12:09 PM (0cMkb)

150
Creating new content is work; why go through all that when you can get praise for copying someone else's work?
Posted by: RoyalOil




How dare you!  Microagression!

Posted by: A Steampunk Cosplayer Hot Gluing Bronze Painted Gears to a Vest -- Again

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 12:09 PM (kdS6q)

151 Our times cry out for a gritty realistic remake of F Troop. Johnny Depp could get a fortune to play Crazy Cat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 09, 2014 12:09 PM (8ZskC)

152 And in the future we'll have NCIS: Marvel -- cops who handle superhero related crime. Actually: I could handle that, and Marvel themselves have made noises about starting a property kind of like that. Regular humans who have access to (mostly) StarkTech who have to protect normal people from minor super-villains AND super-fights (think about how many cars/buildings/trains blow up in a standard fight between supers).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 12:10 PM (PYAXX)

153 A Hayley Atwell and Kate Beckinsale sandwich. Bunk. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 04:08 PM (PYAXX) extra mayo and tomatoes, please.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:10 PM (x3YFz)

154 I think a lot of that list from '61 holds up pretty well.  Maybe not Hazel, but most of them.  But those were the memorable shows, and I'm sure there was plenty of crap on too, like now.  Just a different kind of crap.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:10 PM (eEBON)

155 And hey, to me the best episodes of "X-Files" were the ones that explored odd corners of the world, not the endless conspiracy-draggers. Jose Chung's From Outer Space Enough said.

Posted by: toby928© at May 09, 2014 12:10 PM (QupBk)

156 148 If I had a time machine I would Bring. Back. Deadwood ****looks in pants**** No need, found it

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 09, 2014 12:10 PM (CPoFy)

157 51 I liked Community, but it's always been a weird show with occasional moments of brilliance. I definitely would like to see more growth of Hulu, Netflix, etc, where shows like that can flourish. I hate NCIS and pretty much anything on CBS. Even TBBT needs to wrap up soon. Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 03:52 PM (tIvOy) CBS...Home of third-rate cop/federal agent dramas. Isn't it about time for this genre to die a flaming death and take the legal dramas with it?

Posted by: AC at May 09, 2014 12:10 PM (X6YhV)

158 I liked Community very much but without Pirece and especially without Troy it was going to be cancelled. My go to shows now are Bob's Burgers, About A Boy and Brooklyn 99. The B's have it. Except Big Bang. I dropped that two seasons ago.

Posted by: Burt Toste at May 09, 2014 12:11 PM (xzZPy)

159 Just looked at imdb for Community story line. That show has to suck. Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the complete series Warehouse 13 boxed set on deep discount.

Posted by: The Hoser at May 09, 2014 12:11 PM (u6gWL)

160 I'd take it. Posted by: grammie -------------------- Opening scene from Gunsmoke. Which reveals a bit of trivia- Matt Dillon's pistol had antler grips. Notice that Dillon draws second. And, he doesn't have his holster tied down http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D74hB-18u4I Oh, yes, Good Guys - 1, Bad Guy's - 0

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 12:11 PM (aDwsi)

161 A Hayley Atwell and Kate Beckinsale sandwich. ... extra mayo and tomatoes, please. All that sandwich needs is some butter.

Posted by: Marlon Brando at May 09, 2014 12:11 PM (cOOb+)

162

Could it be that it was cancelled because Chevy Chase is not funny and is a mean spirited prick?

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at May 09, 2014 12:11 PM (rdiUQ)

163 And yet, no one will touch any of the really Great Sci Fi Classic books or series out there. Honor Harrington? a real Starship Troopers? Hammers Slammers? Dorsai? Armor? Falkenburg's Legion? And meanwhile... they turned the Hobbit from a serious Fantasy Movie... to one where the fight scenes are so silly as to defy logic.... dwarves falling 100 feet and not getting hurt at ALL? /rant off

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2014 12:11 PM (84gbM)

164 I would like to see McHales Navy resurrected as well.  Great Location shots, great ensemble.  I know why they don't do shows like this anymore though.  A great ensemble costs a lot of boom boom.  Why do that when you can foist some kid in front of an audience for less than scale and call it a reality show..... 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at May 09, 2014 12:11 PM (jucos)

165 "If I had a time machine I would Bring. Back. Deadwood" This. Times 1,000,000.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 12:11 PM (gOoFi)

166 143 I would like to see "Greatest American Hero" resurrected. Great show. Funny. Great theme song. Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner ---------- You forgot to mention the kickass perm.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 09, 2014 12:11 PM (uOtWx)

167
If I had a time machine I would Bring. Back. Deadwood
Posted by: fabio




Another couple seasons of Rome.  Even HBO has admitted they effed up by canceling that one too soon.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 12:12 PM (kdS6q)

168 Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at May 09, 2014 04:11 PM (rdiUQ) You're two seasons late.

Posted by: Burt Toste at May 09, 2014 12:12 PM (xzZPy)

169 I would like to see "Greatest American Hero" resurrected. Great show. Funny. Great theme song.

Posted by: Truck Monkey

__________________________________________

Made a good answering machine message too.

Posted by: George Costanza at May 09, 2014 12:12 PM (eEBON)

170 The Unit was excellent. 4 seasons. Canx due to hippies. Their kit, missions, TTPs were right on the border of class/unclass. Very well done.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:12 PM (x3YFz)

171 All the basic TV genres will be superherofied and grafted onto a larger universe. What genres are popular: medical shows legal shows cop shows. So right there it's easy. ER: Marvel -- probably starring Dr. Strange before he got powers or something. Or after. Depends on VFX. Gotham Legal -- lawyers that handle lawsuits caused by supers Gotham PD -- cops that handles supers crimes. DC's actually been making that comic for forever. Take any popular genre of TV. Add superheroes. Profit.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 12:12 PM (ZPrif)

172 I'm a big fan of Arrow, even with some of the emotional stuff. It works in the case of the story, and the payoff next week looks like it will be good. I watched about six episodes, but it's not in the rotation anymore. Some of the actors were just awful. Truly bad. Like the hot chick who was the daughter of the crooked businessman Arrow got involved with. She was like watching someone stumble onto a set and wing it.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 09, 2014 12:12 PM (l5wxK)

173

Just looked at imdb for Community story line. That show has to suck.

 

You'd think, but some of the early seasons were incredibly funny.  The cast and crew used it to skewer college life, academia, and even sitcom tropes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 12:12 PM (tIvOy)

174 ****looks in pants**** No need, found it Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 09, 2014 04:10 PM (CPoFy) Bob Dole can help.

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 09, 2014 12:12 PM (cOOb+)

175 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 04:08 PM (PYAXX) extra mayo and tomatoes, please. I'll supply the "mayo".

Posted by: Hugh G. Koch, the brother they don't talk about at May 09, 2014 12:13 PM (agLwc)

176 I think a lot of that list from '61 holds up pretty well. Maybe not Hazel, ---------------- That's about the era of Have Gun, Will Travel, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 12:13 PM (aDwsi)

177 I really think this market is oversaturated, or, given the genre, super-saturated. SCIENCE!

Posted by: HR #BringBackMyStapler at May 09, 2014 12:13 PM (/kI1Q)

178 >>>I liked Community very much but without Pirece and especially without Troy it was going to be cancelled yeah I liked troy, but thought the show could do without him; but then as soon as he was gone, wow, big void. Troy's absence of course almost blew up the Abed character (they never knew what to do with Abed after that) and just generally threw everything off.

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 12:13 PM (/FnUH)

179 In other TV news, Fox will begin airing Gotham, a show set in Batman's Gotham City, but Before Batman. A crime-ridden hellhole beyond the ability of police to restore order? Why not just call it Detroit?

Posted by: AmishDude at May 09, 2014 12:13 PM (T0NGe)

180 And yet, no one will touch any of the really Great Sci Fi Classic books or series out there. Honor Harrington? a real Starship Troopers? Hammers Slammers? Dorsai? Armor? Falkenburg's Legion? Sci-Fi's day will return. Until then, I'll get my geek on with SHIELD, and Arrow, and such.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 12:13 PM (PYAXX)

181 Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the complete series Warehouse 13 boxed set on deep discount. Posted by: The Hoser at May 09, 2014 04:11 PM (u6gWL) Uh... it's free with Amazon Prime.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:14 PM (x3YFz)

182 Its not that monster of the week stuff is bad (and X-Files upto the first movie is some amazing stuff), its the early Shield episodes were just stinkers. IMO, everything from episode 6 onwards is really good.

Posted by: Gaff at May 09, 2014 12:14 PM (uh3SH)

183 Grandson first-grade math homework q: Eva is 23 and her mom is 58. In how many more years will Eva's mom be twice as old as Eva? Forget the math, morons. What is the message?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at May 09, 2014 12:14 PM (fAMNc)

184 As for Batman, he was my favorite costumed comic hero.  In my kid days, just before the '60s TV show (gag!), he was a detective -- Sherlock Holmes in a cape and mask.  We've never seen him do that in the films (though there were hints of it in the campy Adam West series).

The other thing I hate is that the superheroes in films now are never proactive.  They always wait for the villain to make a move, then they try to counter it.  Then the villain moves again, and Batman/Superman tries to counter it.  Why not have a plot where Batman or even Superman leads the villain down the garden path and springs a trap on him, a la "Mission: Impossible" or "The Sting"? 

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:14 PM (GqXWW)

185 Opening scene from Gunsmoke. Which reveals a bit of trivia- Matt Dillon's pistol had antler grips. Notice that Dillon draws second. And, he doesn't have his holster tied down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D74hB-18u4I

Oh, yes, Good Guys - 1, Bad Guy's - 0

Posted by: Mike Hammer

______________________________________________________

Do you know who originally played Matt Dillon (on the original radio show)?

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:14 PM (eEBON)

186 Is Bob Dole still alive? I heard his dick my still be erect! Priapism in perpetuum.

Posted by: Hadoop at May 09, 2014 12:15 PM (Ph479)

187 You forgot 'Superdog' based on the Superman comics coming to Animal Planet.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 09, 2014 12:15 PM (AC0lD)

188 It's a tasty, tasty, naughty sandwich.


I've been wondering why, with Hollywood so quick to mine anything they can get their hands on, that no enterprising producer has tried to create a cutting edge series based on HP Lovecraft stories.

Some of them are quite short and would work well for an hour episode.

Some of the longer ones would translate well to special events/multi-parters.

Spawn the bigger ones into feature films (pun intended).

Even a b-movie like The Resurrected, that tried to be more-or-less faithful to the spirit of Lovecraft, was a really entertaining movie.

Posted by: grognard at May 09, 2014 12:15 PM (/29Nl)

189
There is not enough sniper shows on tv.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 09, 2014 12:15 PM (hJauc)

190 Transmitted, i.e., broadcast, TV was not all it's cracked up to be. I was there. Unless, of course, you had a TV C-1-5. http://preview.tinyurl.com/d498cm

Posted by: TV transmissions... at May 09, 2014 12:15 PM (1/4XQ)

191 Oh and Grimm went and felt compelled to add gurl power . Can't have a show now unless there is a equally physically badass female . Can't have it be unbalanced.

Posted by: Burt Toste at May 09, 2014 12:15 PM (xzZPy)

192 good call definitely Rome too!

Posted by: fabio at May 09, 2014 12:15 PM (uxJMc)

193 I hate NCIS and pretty much anything on CBS. Even TBBT needs to wrap up soon. NCIS absolutely murders and then desecrates the corpses of other shows ratings. It's a Juggernaut on a rocket. Even rerun weeks it's often in the top 10.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 09, 2014 12:15 PM (l5wxK)

194 I guess I'll say it again... "Hannibal" is the best show on TV right now. Season One suffered a bit from the "crazy killer of the week" syndrome at the beginning but then picked up and has been increasingly awesome ever since. Season Two is just flat out phenomenal. They've been smart and are reimagining the story lines of the book so that they occur differently. For instance we were introduced to Mason Verger and his hawt sister over the last couple of episodes. Great writing, great acting, great directing every single week. Check it out - though probably on blu-ray - Season 2 only has 3 more episodes to go.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2014 12:15 PM (0cMkb)

195 Do you know who originallyplayed Matt Dillon (on the original radio show)?

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 04:14 PM (eEBON)

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That would be Brian Dennehy. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at May 09, 2014 12:16 PM (jucos)

196 176 I think a lot of that list from '61 holds up pretty well. Maybe not Hazel, ---------------- That's about the era of Have Gun, Will Travel, no? Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 04:13 PM (aDwsi) Yep. Both Have Gun Will Travel, and Maverick, which might just be one of my favorite shows ever. Love James Garner.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2014 12:16 PM (oMKp3)

197
I would like to see McHales Navy resurrected as well. Great Location shots
Posted by: Truck Monke



Location shots?  The Pacific Ocean was Park Lake at Universal Studios. That show was all back lot, except for some canned PT boat footage.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 12:16 PM (kdS6q)

198 If you thought that the 'Superdog' show I mentioned above was plausible and just actually might be coming to Animal Planet, then yeah, the genre is over-saturated.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 09, 2014 12:16 PM (AC0lD)

199 There is not enough sniper shows on tv. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 09, 2014 04:15 PM (hJauc) Heh. Laying in mud for hours while ants and mosquitoes bite you as you piss yourself (again) is not quite made for TV. And fuckin' snakes.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:16 PM (x3YFz)

200 Green Arrow was one of the few( only?) heroes that was explicitly a left winger.

Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2014 12:16 PM (zqvg6)

201 Eva is 23 and her mom is 58. In how many more years will Eva's mom be twice as old as Eva? Forget the math, morons. What is the message? Abortion wasn't legal and easily accessible 23 years ago?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2014 12:16 PM (eVPyN)

202

I watched about six episodes, but it's not in the rotation anymore. Some of the actors were just awful. Truly bad. Like the hot chick who was the daughter of the crooked businessman Arrow got involved with. She was like watching someone stumble onto a set and wing it.

 

The latter half of the season is better as they finally start to hit a stride.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (tIvOy)

203 Hayley Atwell.  <sigh>

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (Iyg03)

204 That would be Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: Truck Monkey

+++++++++++++++++++

Heh, no.  Even fatter.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (eEBON)

205 163 And yet, no one will touch any of the really Great Sci Fi Classic books or series out there.

Honor Harrington? a real Starship Troopers? Hammers Slammers? Dorsai? Armor? Falkenburg's Legion?
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I know.  SFX has been so good since the original "Star Wars" that someone could easily have done Larry Niven's "Ringworld."  You could even sell it to studio execs:  "It's 'Wizard of Oz' in space!"  (Well, sorta.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (GqXWW)

206 With all this frenetic rebooting and whatnot going on, how do they continue to miss the obvious opportunity?:
The Kato Show
Just 30 minutes of nothing but ass kickin' every week.
At least a 20 share left on the table.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (LO5eB)

207 I think the big bang theory will wrap-up next season, and it ought to. This past season was pretty lame. So will they do two weddings or only three?

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (/FnUH)

208 154 I think a lot of that list from '61 holds up pretty well. Maybe not Hazel, but most of them.  Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 04:10 PM (eEBON)

I used to watch reruns of Hazel on Nick at Nite with my mom.  I remember that half the plot lines revolved around it being illegal for Hazel's boss to advertise as an attorney.  She would do something like post his business cards somewhere and that would get him in trouble.  I thought it was so funny, because afternoon TV is filled with ads for ambulance chasers.

Posted by: not the mama at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (5dxeo)

209 Location shots? The Pacific Ocean was Park Lake at Universal Studios. That show was all back lot, except for some canned PT boat footage.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 04:16 PM (kdS6q)

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My attempt at snark misfired.  Gilligan's Island had some great location shots too.  Could have been the same studio.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (jucos)

210 I'm going to address a few things at once... 1. Community may not have been great ratings-wise but, frankly, NBC's lineup is godawful and ANYTHING with a built-in audience is worth keeping there as long as it is not too costly. 2. Not really caring too much about Gotham. That era of the city doesn't really appeal to me as someone who is primarily a Marvel and Valiant fan. 3. Waiting to get Agents of Shield's first season, as my sister who has been watching it has been talking it up to me. Worth watching at least. 4. The Netflix announcement on Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Daredevil, and Defenders has been around for a while. I'm wondering if Netflix will be adapting the Jessica Jones comic Alias for this series given its, ahem, graphic nature. To explain, the first panel of the first issue is her screaming "FUCK!" at the top of her lungs after having to beat the shit out of one of her Private Investigator clients and, shortly after that, she gets completely sloshed and fucked up the ass by Luke Cage.

Posted by: Gang member from Weird Al's at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (zVFRW)

211 We just got through Deadwood.  I had no idea I was missing something so freaking good back when it was on.

Now I can't stop using the word cocksuckers.

Posted by: Simon White-Thatch Potentloins at May 09, 2014 12:17 PM (NnjE8)

212 I would go down on Haley Atwell and tell my girlfriend to hold the video camera. Fortunately since my girlfriend is a kind and understanding woman, she would give me fifteen or twenty minutes of fun before telling me it was her turn.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at May 09, 2014 12:18 PM (jUeGo)

213 Heh. Laying in mud for hours while ants and mosquitoes bite you as you piss yourself (again) is not quite made for TV.

No, but splodey muzzies are.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 09, 2014 12:18 PM (hJauc)

214 Off, off, sweaty overweight sock.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 09, 2014 12:18 PM (zVFRW)

215 So will they do two weddings or only three? Helicopter crash?

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2014 12:18 PM (cOOb+)

216 I believe the Dick Van Dyke show started in '61 as well.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:18 PM (eEBON)

217 "Do you know who originallyplayed Matt Dillon (on the original radio show)?" The Fatman. Can't think of his name right now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 12:18 PM (gOoFi)

218 They keep trying to make Powers into a TV show. If it was part of the DC or Marvel universe it would already by on TV. Nobody wants to watch cops investigate the no-name, knock-off superheroes of Kaboom-ville, though.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 12:18 PM (ZPrif)

219 >>> Green Arrow was one of the few( only?) heroes that was explicitly a left winger. this really annoys me, not that he's a left-winger, but that they let him KILL (execute, really) a bunch of criminals. But when someone proposed a Punisher series, networks balked, because you can't have a right-leaning guy murdering criminals with guns. *people could get bad ideas.* But not from the left-wing character murdering people?

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 12:19 PM (/FnUH)

220 The Unit was excellent That's what she said. Badum chish.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 09, 2014 12:19 PM (7ObY1)

221


NCIS absolutely murders and then desecrates the corpses of other shows ratings. It's a Juggernaut on a rocket. Even rerun weeks it's often in the top 10.

 

I don't deny that it's popular, I just don't like it.  The characters are uninteresting at best and incredibly annoying at worst. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 12:19 PM (tIvOy)

222 176 I think a lot of that list from '61 holds up pretty well. Maybe not Hazel,
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That's about the era of Have Gun, Will Travel, no?
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I think HGWT started in the late '50s, but it probably ran on until the early '60s.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:19 PM (GqXWW)

223 So will they do two weddings or only three?


Helicopter crash?

Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2014 04:18 PM (cOOb+)

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Electro Magnetic pulse.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at May 09, 2014 12:19 PM (jucos)

224 Sci-Fi's day will return. Until then, I'll get my geek on with SHIELD, and Arrow, and such. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 04:13 PM (PYAXX) Good Sci Fi won't come back until there is a Conservative Movie / TV Studio who will do it. Hell.... even the Hugos have gone overly PC... to the point where they don't read the books, just vote on the Political leanings of the writers... The only way Hollywood would do many of these stories, is like they did with Starship Troopers.... make it a Parody....

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 09, 2014 12:19 PM (84gbM)

225 William Conrad.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 12:19 PM (gOoFi)

226 Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 04:13 PM (/FnUH) Yep. The buddy aspect was a huge part of the show. Troy , Danny Glover is now known as the rapper Childish Gambino. Not bad as rap goes.

Posted by: Burt Toste at May 09, 2014 12:20 PM (xzZPy)

227 The other thing I hate is that the superheroes in films now are never proactive. They always wait for the villain to make a move, then they try to counter it. You couldn't do it in a movie. It's hard enough to do it in a TV show. Think about it. To do it in a movie, you have to assert (and get the audience to accept) that your Protagonist is a Good Guy, who somehow knows about what the Bad Guy is up to before it happens. Now, that works for James Bond (up through the 90s), because the Bad Guy was SPECTER or the Russians- and it was just assumed they were doing bad stuff, hey let's send in Agent 007! It doesn't work for Batman, because the Joker really doesn't confide in anyone. It doesn't work for Superman because most of his threats are either a) not from Earth or b) not the kind of people you can take out preemptively (Lex Luthor is a "pillar of the community" in most storylines). So the badguy *has* to act first. Now, if you do it in a TV show- say, Agents of SHIELD- you could definitely go for a Man from UNCLE or M:I vibe. But even then it's usually the bad guy doing something first, and then the good guys investigating/busting-up the plot.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 12:20 PM (PYAXX)

228 217 "Do you know who originallyplayed Matt Dillon (on the original radio show)?" The Fatman. Can't think of his name right now. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 04:18 PM (gOoFi) That guy who played Cannon.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2014 12:20 PM (oMKp3)

229 >>>. Community may not have been great ratings-wise but, frankly, NBC's lineup is godawful and ANYTHING with a built-in audience is worth keeping there as long as it is not too costly. a lot of people thought it would get renewed because "What else does NBC have?" Nothing, really. A couple of shows here and there.

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 12:20 PM (/FnUH)

230 No, but splodey muzzies are. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 09, 2014 04:18 PM (hJauc) you saw the 6 jihadis with one shot by the canuk story then?

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:20 PM (x3YFz)

231
I only ever watched maybe 3 shows of this early on, but in the end how did the guy meet their mother?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 09, 2014 12:20 PM (hJauc)

232 Forget the math, morons. What is the message? Posted by: the littl ------------------------------ That 'critical thinking' damages brains?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 12:21 PM (aDwsi)

233 149 I guess no one watched "Surviving Jack".

Funny sitcom with actual non-retarded father.

FOX cancelled it this week.

Too bad.
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Of course they did.

If I was pitching a show and Fox said, "We'll take it."
I'd say, "fuck you, unless you guarantee two seasons."

Meanwhile, the Simpsons, Bob's Burgers and whatever other stupid shit they have on Sunday nights is still on.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 09, 2014 12:21 PM (VjL9S)

234 "What else does NBC have?" Me.

Posted by: Ronan Farrow at May 09, 2014 12:21 PM (cOOb+)

235 NCIS absolutely murders and then desecrates the corpses of other shows ratings. It's a Juggernaut on a rocket. Even rerun weeks it's often in the top 10. The bad guy is a veteran with PTSD. I spoiled every episode, past present, and future.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 09, 2014 12:21 PM (X9npt)

236 I stopped watching Community when they brought Chevy Chase on board. He's not funny and they allowed him to dominate the show.

Posted by: Pug Me Baby! at May 09, 2014 12:21 PM (3U9Bd)

237 I only ever watched maybe 3 shows of this early on, but in the end how did the guy meet their mother? Craigslist.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2014 12:22 PM (eVPyN)

238 109 You can only get so much entertainment out of clubbing hippies. Uh uh. Blasphemy!

Posted by: Citizen X at May 09, 2014 12:22 PM (7ObY1)

239 217
"Do you know who originallyplayed Matt Dillon (on the original radio show)?"


The Fatman. Can't think of his name right now.
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William Conrad.  Also the voice of the narrator on the original "Fugitive" ("In the darkness Fate moves its huge hand"), and the narrator, believe it or not, on "Rocky and Bullwinkle"!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:22 PM (GqXWW)

240 "Do you know who originallyplayed Matt Dillon (on the original radio show)?" Broderick Crawford?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 12:22 PM (aDwsi)

241 Yep, William Conrad.  He did a lot of radio work in the '50s.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:22 PM (eEBON)

242 I watch The Rifleman every weekend. When I was a kid I wanted to *be* Mark McCain.

Posted by: Citizen X at May 09, 2014 12:22 PM (7ObY1)

243 Jim Gordon is my favorite character in Batman movies and comics but this is an idiotic idea. Superheroes are popular but no one outside of comic fans want to watch peripherally-related things like this. Agents of Shield is lucky to be getting another season given that its ratings have plunged by 60%. I'd rather see a somewhat mature, prime time animated Batman show than a cop show that happens to be set in Gotham.

Posted by: Naes1984 at May 09, 2014 12:22 PM (YhayY)

244

Oh and Grimm went and felt compelled to add gurl power . Can't have a show now unless there is a equally physically badass female . Can't have it be unbalanced.

 

I'm withholding judgment on that one until the next few episodes to see where they take it.  I suspect that they'll make her unable to adapt to the idea of not killing every Wessen she comes across, which will put her in conflict with Nick.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 12:22 PM (tIvOy)

245 In fact, the CW does a bunch of good shows. Arrow, Supernatural, hell even The 100 is good. -- I like Supernatural a lot. The backdoor pilot for a spin-off they just aired last week is a complete stinker though. (Bloodlines) They should do a spin-off of Crowley and/or Castiel instead.

Posted by: votermom at May 09, 2014 12:23 PM (GSIDW)

246 He narrated Rocky and Bullwinkle too? Now that you say that, I can hear him in my head. Yeah.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2014 12:23 PM (oMKp3)

247 Danny Glover is now known as the rapper Childish Gambino. Not bad as rap goes. Posted by: Burt Toste at May 09, 2014 04:20 PM (xzZPy) Danny Glover has his head so far up communism's ass that communism complained that Danny Glover is too far left. Refuse to watch any show he's in.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:23 PM (x3YFz)

248 " I watch The Rifleman every weekend. " I too generally dial in on AMC for an episode or two.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 12:24 PM (gOoFi)

249 "If I had a time machine I would Bring. Back. Deadwood"

CawkSucka!


How can you not like a Chinese guy who only knows one word of English, yet weaves it into whole sentences?

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 09, 2014 12:24 PM (VjL9S)

250 3. Waiting to get Agents of Shield's first season, as my sister who has been watching it has been talking it up to me. Worth watching at least.  Posted by: Gang member from Weird Al's at May 09, 2014 04:17 PM (zVFRW) ---------- Don't get your hopes up. Started off well, but like everything else on network TV, went downhill.

Posted by: shredded chi at May 09, 2014 12:24 PM (uOtWx)

251 Did they ever explain how Agent Coulson returned from the dead?

Posted by: EC at May 09, 2014 12:24 PM (doBIb)

252 Posted by: RoyalOil at May 09, 2014 04:21 PM (VjL9S) Bobs Burger's. is great.

Posted by: Burt Toste at May 09, 2014 12:24 PM (xzZPy)

253 a lot of people thought it would get renewed because "What else does NBC have?" Nothing, really. A couple of shows here and there.  Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 04:20 PM (/FnUH)

I'll admit, I really like Grimm.  It has its flaws, but I find it fun.  The sidekicks (Monroe and Wu in particular) are funny.

Posted by: not the mama at May 09, 2014 12:25 PM (5dxeo)

254 When I was a kid I wanted to *be* Mark McCain. Posted by: Citizen ----------------------------- I just wanted one of those Mattel Winchesters with the flip-up trigger trigger.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 12:25 PM (aDwsi)

255 245 Even the " historical" dram Vikings has to have aspn ass kicking female.

Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2014 12:25 PM (zqvg6)

256 Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 04:23 PM (x3YFz) Sorry it's Donald Glover. Danny is the commie.

Posted by: Burt Toste at May 09, 2014 12:25 PM (xzZPy)

257 Funny sitcom with actual non-retarded father. Also true of The Middle. The dad gets all the best lines.

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2014 12:26 PM (GXZgZ)

258 >>>Did they ever explain how Agent Coulson returned from the dead? yes. If I explained it to you in a post, it would sound very, very stupid, but as presented on the show, it was acceptable, even sort of cool, if you just go with the premise that in comic books anything can happen.

Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 12:26 PM (/FnUH)

259 Posted by: ace at May 09, 2014 04:19 PM (/FnUH) My problem with a Punisher series is that the Punisher is a freaking psycho. Gone 'round the bend. Criminally Insane. He's Dexter meets Batman, but with less self-control. Again, I have a problem with Arrow killing so wantonly (though apparently that stops later- I haven't gotten to that part yet), but with Punisher that kind of killing is built right in.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 12:26 PM (PYAXX)

260
Speaking of 1961 TV.

We'd actually be watching more politically diverse and intellectually demanding TV news and documentaries, instead of the Democratic filmstrips and murderporn docs the nets shovel up now.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 12:26 PM (kdS6q)

261

The backdoor pilot for a spin-off they just aired last week is a complete stinker though. (Bloodlines)

 

Agreed.  If they wanted to do a spinoff, a show about a team of government hunters would have been much more believable and interesting. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 12:26 PM (tIvOy)

262 196 176 I think a lot of that list from '61 holds up pretty well. Maybe not Hazel,
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That's about the era of Have Gun, Will Travel, no?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 04:13 PM (aDwsi)




Yep. Both Have Gun Will Travel, and Maverick, which might just be one of my favorite shows ever. Love James Garner.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2014 04:16 PM (oMKp3)


Have Gun Will Travel and the Warner Brothers Western shows (Maverick, Sugar  Foot, and Cheyenne) all started in 1957.  I have the first season of Cheyenne and the first 3 seasons of HGWT.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 09, 2014 12:26 PM (T2V/1)

263 I just wanted one of those Mattel Winchesters with the flip-up trigger trigger. You mean the thing that goes up?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2014 12:26 PM (oMKp3)

264 #90, hell yes.

#112, or an updated version. During the Iraq invasion of '03, Delta basically drove from western Saudi Arabia and came toward Baghdad from the west in a bunch of modified Toyota Hiluxes and old Swiss-surplus Pinzgauers they'd picked up on the secondary market then had rebuilt.

One thing I learned (not with them, with another unit), is that hanging on to the spade grips of a Browning .50 in the back of a speeding vehicle going cross-country is a FUCKLOAD harder than it looked on the opening title sequence of "Rat Patrol."

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at May 09, 2014 12:26 PM (jUeGo)

265 Don't get your hopes up. Started off well, but like everything else on network TV, went downhill. Posted by: shredded chi at May 09, 2014 04:24 PM (uOtWx) Agreed. The best part of the show was the dry humor. They either got new writers or told the current ones to ramp back. Mistake. Now it's just corny.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:26 PM (x3YFz)

266 You couldn't do it in a movie. It's hard enough to do it in a TV show.

Think about it. To do it in a movie, you have to assert (and get the audience to accept) that your Protagonist is a Good Guy, who somehow knows about what the Bad Guy is up to before it happens.

Now, that works for James Bond (up through the 90s), because the Bad Guy was SPECTER or the Russians- and it was just assumed they were doing bad stuff, hey let's send in Agent 007!

It doesn't work for Batman, because the Joker really doesn't confide in anyone. It doesn't work for Superman because most of his threats are either a) not from Earth or b) not the kind of people you can take out preemptively (Lex Luthor is a "pillar of the community" in most storylines).

So the badguy *has* to act first.

Now, if you do it in a TV show- say, Agents of SHIELD- you could definitely go for a Man from UNCLE or M:I vibe. But even then it's usually the bad guy doing something first, and then the good guys investigating/busting-up the plot.
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I'll give you that audiences are stupider than they once were, and more impatient.  But if "The Sting" worked, it might be possible to do it in a modern movie.  The bad guy could be making some moves, yes, but our hero figures out what he's up to, dangles bait (without making it obvious that it's bait), and leads the villain into the trap.

Check out "The Project Strigas Affair" from "Man from U.N.C.L.E." -- I think it's on YouTube.  It's the famous ep with William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy, but it's also a perfect example of the con job plotting I'm talking about.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:27 PM (GqXWW)

267 "CawkSucka! How can you not like a Chinese guy who only knows one word of English, yet weaves it into whole sentences?" He also knew "Swidgen!"

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 09, 2014 12:27 PM (gOoFi)

268 Wake me when there's finally a show featuring a time-displaced Conan the Barbarian wandering through Burning Times America, destroying commies and hipsters. I'd care about that.

Posted by: Stu-22 at May 09, 2014 12:27 PM (AiYlm)

269 Surprised Disney hasn't bought rights to the Lord of the Rings universe. Disney has scifi (Star Wars) and superhero (Marvel) universes. A fantasy universe is the obvious next step.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 12:27 PM (ZPrif)

270 I like The Americans because I hate commies. But it has too much relationshipb and pain in the ass children shit. There is a guy who goes around snapping commie broads necks (he's gay and hates women and commies) but I'm afraid he is not long for this world...

Posted by: Pug Me Baby! at May 09, 2014 12:27 PM (3U9Bd)

271 Isn't Gotham just Smallville?

Posted by: --- at May 09, 2014 12:27 PM (MMC8r)

272 252 Did they ever explain how Agent Coulson returned from the dead? --- Short version I've heard - He was dead but Nick Fury had his guys use alien tech on his corpse to bring him back because he was one of the people he trusted deeply. The process was so painful and traumatic that they had to wipe his memory of what happened and put code words into his subconscious to handle him if he was coming close to figuring out the truth.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 09, 2014 12:28 PM (zVFRW)

273 Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2014 04:25 PM (zqvg6) That's why I really can't watch it any more.

Posted by: Burt Toste at May 09, 2014 12:28 PM (xzZPy)

274 I'm guessing that if they made HGWT today that the Hey-Boy character would be a little different.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:28 PM (eEBON)

275

I think the Red Bee, hands-down the lamest superhero character in the DC universe, should get his own TV show. He controls honeybees. That's his superpower. The terrible part is that he also realizes he's the lamest superhero in the DC universe. The angst and bitterness alone would make it worth watching.

 

Every day the Red Bee gets up, dons his costume, and weeps. Hilarious.

Posted by: troyriser at May 09, 2014 12:28 PM (O66NZ)

276 I just wanted one of those Mattel Winchesters with the flip-up trigger trigger. Posted by: Mike -------------- Ooops. Was made by Hubley

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 12:28 PM (aDwsi)

277 I think the big bang theory will wrap-up next season, and it ought to. I was thinking the same thing. SPOILER: Leonard and Penny got engaged last night. So that's done, unless lame hijinks ensue. That leaves Sheldon without a roommate - so here comes Amy. That'll probably be the crux of next season. Will they? Won't they? They do! And Raj finally seems to have found a girl. So - triple wedding unless they want to leave the fans on a sour note (see How I Met Your Mother).

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2014 12:28 PM (0cMkb)

278 Even the " historical" dram Vikings has to have aspn ass kicking female.

Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2014 04:25 PM (zqvg6)

 

Well, shieldmaidens, including Ragnar's wife, are mentioned in folklore so it's not completely unbelievable.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 12:28 PM (tIvOy)

279 245
Oh and Grimm went and felt compelled to add gurl power . Can't have a show now unless there is a equally physically badass female . Can't have it be unbalanced.

I'm withholding judgment on that one until the next few episodes to see where they take it. I suspect that they'll make her unable to adapt to the idea of not killing every Wessen she comes across, which will put her in conflict with Nick.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 04:22 PM (tIvOy)


Grimm already had girl power because Nick's mom kicks butt.  I think new this girl (who looks a lot like Nick) is going to turn out to be a sister, half-sister, or cousin.    My first reaction was "Uh oh, they brought in cousin Oliver..", but so far she has been more fun than annoying so I'm also reserving judgement. 

Posted by: not the mama at May 09, 2014 12:29 PM (5dxeo)

280 The bad guy is a veteran with PTSD. I spoiled every episode, past present, and future. They've had several bad guys that don't fit that description at all. Mahmoun Sharif: Lebanese terrorist who tries to kill Gibbs. Paloma Reynosa: Cartel leader who wants to avenge her father's death. La Grenouille: French arms dealer who is slippery and sophisticated.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 09, 2014 12:29 PM (l5wxK)

281 241 "Do you know who originallyplayed Matt Dillon (on the original radio show)?"

Broderick Crawford?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 04:22 PM (aDwsi)


He had a show that my brothers and I loved to watch but it was cancelled because he got to where he could not stay sober long enough to film it.  The name of it was Highway Patrol (?) and they drove Buicks for patrol cars.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 09, 2014 12:29 PM (T2V/1)

282 Green Arrow stopped using trick arrows and started killing in the limited series graphic novel The Longbow Hunters.Arrow definitely took the look and attitude from that.The killer in that series was iirc a Vietnam veteran,of course.

Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2014 12:29 PM (zqvg6)

283
Also in 1961:

Your prime-time cartoons would be The Bugs Bunny Show or The Flintstones, instead of Family Guy.

Which shows you just how far our society has decayed.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 12:29 PM (kdS6q)

284 252 Did they ever explain how Agent Coulson returned from the dead?

Posted by: EC at May 09, 2014 04:24 PM (doBIb)


Yes. In detail but I don't want to spoil it for anyone here.


I don't watch hour long shows much now but really liked "Agents of Shield" from the beginning until now. I did notice Ward's character getting closer to each character but didn't see later events happening.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at May 09, 2014 12:30 PM (AC0lD)

285 Did they ever explain how Agent Coulson returned from the dead? "Tahiti is a magical place." I'm sure they did, but I'm willing to accept that explanation. Or, as Bruce Banner once pointed out to Dr. Strange... Banner: "I've come back from the dead! You've come back from the dead! Modo? Have you come back from the dead?" Modo: "Well... yes."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at May 09, 2014 12:30 PM (PYAXX)

286 Leonard and Penny got engaged last night. So that's done, unless lame hijinks ensue. That leaves Sheldon without a roommate - so here comes Amy. That'll probably be the crux of next season. Will they? Won't they? They do! And Raj finally seems to have found a girl. So - triple wedding unless they want to leave the fans on a sour note (see How I Met Your Mother). Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2014 04:28 PM (0cMkb) Wife follows every show we watch. Evidently Leonard and Penny dated in real life and then broke up (was like 2 years ago or something... I really don't care)

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:30 PM (x3YFz)

287 i still don't see a single thing that would make me say: "gee, maybe i should watch some television tonight... XYZ is on."

Ernie Kovacs was righter than he knew.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 09, 2014 12:30 PM (q+fqH)

288   247 He narrated Rocky and Bullwinkle too? Now that you say that, I can hear him in my head. Yeah.
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He also played Nero Wolfe in that poorly-received series in 1981, and he played a bad guy in one of the 1940s film noirs with Burt Lancaster -- can't think of the title.  And he directed at least one horror movie in the '60s.  A multitalented guy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:31 PM (GqXWW)

289 Yep. Both Have Gun Will Travel, and Maverick, which might just be one of my favorite shows ever. Love James Garner. Posted by: grammie winger at May 09, 2014 04:16 PM (oMKp3) Have Gun Will Travel and the Warner Brothers Western shows (Maverick, Sugar Foot, and Cheyenne) all started in 1957. Have Gun - Will Travel Wire Paladin San Francisco

Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2014 12:31 PM (eVPyN)

290 Yep, Highway Patrol.  I remember watching it as a kid when it was in syndication.  Came on right after Lassie, which I still love.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:31 PM (eEBON)

291 Of course, many of the DC characters should have lapsed into the Public Domain by now. As should the Disney characters. Give people some incentive to invent something new. We're just milking the same pop culture for 75 years.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 12:32 PM (ZPrif)

292 I simply demand Red Riding Hood be returned to Once Upon A Time. You have 30 minutes, and then I start snickleprating the hostages.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:32 PM (x3YFz)

293 So - triple wedding unless they want to leave the fans on a sour note (see How I Met Your Mother). How did that end. You can spoil it I don't mind.

Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2014 12:32 PM (GXZgZ)

294 David Mamet is doing a new Have Gun,Will Travel.Not sure if it will be a western or set in modern times.

Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2014 12:32 PM (zqvg6)

295 I like the Goldbergs after SHIELD. Maybe cuz I was a teen in the 80's. Pretty funny too.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at May 09, 2014 12:32 PM (9Bdcz)

296 new one

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 09, 2014 12:32 PM (T2V/1)

297 Red Dwarf anyone?

Posted by: Simon White-Thatch Potentloins at May 09, 2014 12:32 PM (NnjE8)

298 I'll give you that audiences are stupider than they once were, and more impatient. But if "The Sting" worked, it might be possible to do it in a modern movie. The bad guy could be making some moves, yes, but our hero figures out what he's up to, dangles bait (without making it obvious that it's bait), and leads the villain into the trap. --- It can be done, but needs the correct writers. I found that Now You See It, Now You Don't was very well-done as a heist / con movie, despite some of the Occupy vibe within it. If they can leave the clues out there and have it be well-written enough to stand up upon re-watching, they may be onto something.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 09, 2014 12:33 PM (zVFRW)

299 new one Posted by: Vic at May 09, 2014 04:32 PM (T2V/1) podcast. my ADD prevents me.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:33 PM (x3YFz)

300 Hayley Atwell looks damn good in '40's fashions. I'll watch. From my bunk.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at May 09, 2014 12:33 PM (/AHDz)

301

@210 I'm wondering if Netflix will be adapting the Jessica Jones comic Alias for this series given its, ahem, graphic nature.

To explain, the first panel of the first issue is her screaming "FUCK!" at the top of her lungs after having to beat the shit out of one of her Private Investigator clients and, shortly after that, she gets completely sloshed and fucked up the ass by Luke Cage.

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Did she get raped during that series?  Or did that happen elsewhen?

 

 

As for the various TV series...

 

I don't have much interest in Gotham.  The only way that a story like that really works is if you emulate Babylon 5, and have a story arc for the entire series already in place.  And then when you hit the end of the story arc (say, in Season 5, or whenever), you cancel the show.  Even if the ratings are amazing.  Unfortunately, they won't do that.  And instead we'll end up with another show like Smallville that keeps on going and going and going long past its expiration date.  It's not a knock on the actors or the writers.

 

I have high hopes for Agent Carter.  Unlike with Gotham, Agent Carter is pretty open ended.  As Carter's dealing with the immediate post-war era, she's not in any real danger of stepping on established toes for the rest of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  You're probably not going to see people complaining if about a favorite villain that didn't show up (wait until people start howling to see pre-teen Joker in Gotham...).  And Iron Man (the first Marvel movie) is far enough away that they can do pretty much anything they want.

 

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2014 12:33 PM (UWFpX)

302 You have 30 minutes, and then I start snickleprating the hostages. Is that like nickel-plating them?

Posted by: bonhomme at May 09, 2014 12:34 PM (l5wxK)

303 Good thing we have major wars every 20 years, so superheros origin stories can be updated and kept relevant. Gonna be a lot of afghan vet superheroes for the next 20 years. In the 2030s we can update them to veterans of the 2nd Sino-American War.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at May 09, 2014 12:34 PM (ZPrif)

304 There's an episode of the Columbia Workshop that Conrad hosted from about 1952 where he plays some kind of jazz beatnik.  Really over the top with the kool lingo.  It's hilarious when you have Cannon/Fatman in your head while listening. 

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 09, 2014 12:34 PM (eEBON)

305 The name of it was Highway Patrol (?) and they drove Buicks for patrol cars. Posted by: Vic ----------------- With the combination siren/red light mounted on the fender, if I recall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 12:34 PM (aDwsi)

306 Well, shieldmaidens, including Ragnar's wife, are mentioned in folklore so it's not completely unbelievable. Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 09, 2014 04:28 PM (tIvOy)


I don't have a problem with the shieldmaidens on Vikings because they said they were going to use a mix of history and folklore, but I really couldn't believe that Ragnar would let his wife take his pre-teen son away with her when she left him.  I just don't believe any man in that era would have allowed that.  Maybe that's in the folklore, too, I guess, I don't really know, it just seems so unlikely.

Posted by: not the mama at May 09, 2014 12:35 PM (5dxeo)

307 Whenever I hear someone claim the golden age of TV just happens to be coincident with their lost youth, I'm reminded of the famous Damon Knight answer to the interview question, "What is the Golden Age of Science Fiction?"

"12" was his answer.

TV today is pretty good. There is a ton of garbage but then there is a ton of channels and Sturgeon's Law has always applied. If only 10% of the pizza has your preferred toppings, it helps if it is a larger pizza. The reason I watch so little first run TV these days is because I have changed, not because TV has declined. I've come to know the mind of the writers too well and that makes things predictable, even though I know the same show would have impressed me twenty year earlier.

It's the same for all forms of fiction. I can read a comic that is a far better rendering of a story than any that appeared in my youth and appreciate that but it doesn't have the same impact because the essential elements are so familiar. It's rare for a new novel to affect me like anything I read decades ago because I've read so much that it's hard to appreciate anything that isn't truly exceptional. This also means that a lot of stuff that really grabbed me back when wasn't that good. I was just far more receptive to novelty then.

Anyone remember the MTV ad in which the Queenryche guitarist said that future musicians could only hope to be uniquely derivative of their forebears?

Posted by: Epobirs at May 09, 2014 12:35 PM (Icq+V)

308 They should do a spin-off of Crowley and/or Castiel instead. Posted by: votermom at May 09, 2014 04:23 PM (GSIDW) "Touched by a Demon" I like it. That could be a pretty good comedy with Crowley making his deals with a different person each week - with the twist being he often gets screwed in the deal or how he makes sure the deal is upheld. Lots of con artistry on both sides would make it fun.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2014 12:35 PM (0cMkb)

309 You have 30 minutes, and then I start snickleprating the hostages. Is that like nickel-plating them? Posted by: bonhomme at May 09, 2014 04:34 PM (l5wxK) it involves Elmer's Glue, 300 feet of yarn, and 4 small turtles.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:36 PM (x3YFz)

310   It can be done, but needs the correct writers.

I found that Now You See It, Now You Don't was very well-done as a heist / con movie, despite some of the Occupy vibe within it.

If they can leave the clues out there and have it be well-written enough to stand up upon re-watching, they may be onto something.
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William Goldman of "Marathon Man" and "Butch Cassidy."  He's the master of The One Line That Changes Everything.  (See "Butch Cassidy," in which we think Sundance is about to rape Etta as she undresses at gunpoint . . . and then she mutters to him, "Just once I wish you'd be on time!")

Unfortunately today's "producers" have probably never heard of him.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:37 PM (GqXWW)

311 Countrysquire, Orphan Black is great! I just caught up with the new season. I plan on binge watching Warehouse 13 this summer.

Posted by: no good deed at May 09, 2014 12:37 PM (ILBCY)

312 Joseph Conrad, great voice for radio. Couldn't act for shit. Played the fat man detective. He was so short they had to use special effects when he was having a conversation with the leading ladies. Painful to watch.

Posted by: The Hoser at May 09, 2014 12:37 PM (u6gWL)

313 Somebody mentioned the name Crowley and it reminded me.I saw a picture on Twitter with Obama wearing an Aleister Crowley tee shirt.Photoshop?If it is real it is disturbing.

Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2014 12:38 PM (zqvg6)

314 Vic - Apparently I am wrong about the fender-mounted siren. But our home town cop (singular, he only worked on Saturday) had one on his 1954 Ford. Anyhow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y83RlIiwJI0

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 09, 2014 12:38 PM (aDwsi)

315 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpx6t_highway-patrol-oil-lease_shortfilms?start=31

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 09, 2014 12:38 PM (T2V/1)

316 Coming soon:  John Spolanski, Taxi Driver Who Drove Clark Kent

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 09, 2014 12:39 PM (Iyg03)

317
Nero Wolfe in that poorly-received series in 1981
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius



There was a superior Nero Wolfe TV movie/series pilot done in 1977 starring the great Thayer David. Got the Wolfe character down perfect.

http://tinyurl.com/mfsubtr

Worth looking for.  Should be on Youtube or something.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 12:39 PM (kdS6q)

318 "I stopped watching Community when they brought Chevy Chase on board. " ============== Chevy Chase was in the very first episode! And he was a regular for the entire first four seasons! On top of that, although he is apparently a douchebag, and that douchebaggery undoubtedly contributed to how his character eventually became insufferable, he was GOLD during the first season. It was like the Rehabilitation of Chevy Chase from Hollywood douchebag to sitcom treasure. For awhile.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at May 09, 2014 12:40 PM (/AHDz)

319

@273 He was dead but Nick Fury had his guys use alien tech on his corpse to bring him back because he was one of the people he trusted deeply.

The process was so painful and traumatic that they had to wipe his memory of what happened and put code words into his subconscious to handle him if he was coming close to figuring out the truth.

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Pretty much.  But some of the details are still missing.  A few of the missing details (such as who was in charge of the project) were answered in last week's episode.

 

Next week's episode (the season finale) is guest-starring Samuel L. Jackson.  So the writers are probably planning on revealing a bit more about how exactly Coulson was brought back.

 

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2014 12:40 PM (UWFpX)

320 There was a superior Nero Wolfe TV movie/series pilot done in 1977 starring the great Thayer David. Got the Wolfe character down perfect.

http://tinyurl.com/mfsubtr

Worth looking for. Should be on Youtube or something.
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I saw it when it was new and didn't like it, mainly because of the casting of Archie Goodwin.  Maybe I'd like it better now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 09, 2014 12:41 PM (GqXWW)

321 Countrysquire, Orphan Black is great! I just caught up with the new season. I plan on binge watching Warehouse 13 this summer. Posted by: no good deed at May 09, 2014 04:37 PM (ILBCY) I was wondering about Orphan Black. (note to the guy who writes the descriptions for NETFLIX: You're a dumbass. Please write complete sentences ffs, idiot) The netflix description looked girly girl so I skipped past it. WH 13 is, on a 1-10 scale: 8.5 imo. You *really* have to watch it from the start. If you jump in on like season 3 you'll think it's dumb, but it's because you're not getting the jokes and the history.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:41 PM (x3YFz)

322 302 As far as I remember, there's a flashback where she explains why she stopped being a costumed superhero. She ends up getting tangled up with the Purple Man and becoming his plaything for months and nobody notices she was even gone until he sends her off to kill Daredevil and it all goes horribly wrong for her. There's a lot of implied sexual abuse (but no rape as far as I remember).

Posted by: Gaff at May 09, 2014 12:44 PM (uh3SH)

323 If you binge watch WH13, keep a notepad handy and write down all the historical references. Then you'll dump like $500 on Amazon. Trust me.

Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 12:44 PM (x3YFz)

324 I will say I am not completely down on ALL the TV in the last 15 or 20 years.  There have been two shows that I liked. One was a show about revenge but they kept screwing with the schedule and superseding it with other crap until they finally cancelled it.   The other was the firt two seasons of 24, but I cheated and bought the 1st 3 seasons in a DVD package.  The 3rd season I gave up on it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at May 09, 2014 12:47 PM (T2V/1)

325 The nut of the idea was: What if young Barack Obama was the detective who investigated the prosecution and imprisonment of Nelson Mandela? And once you make that connection, it opened up a whole world of storytelling that we realized hadn’t really been looked at before, which is the world before diversity — the world of racism, young freethinkers, and young entrepreneurialism rewarded by riches, and the origin stories of the Koch Brothers.

Posted by: General Zod at May 09, 2014 12:48 PM (2+bRt)

326

@127 Steve Rogers is a frickin' D&D Paladin; he's so bright and shiny he'll give you eye-strain.

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Meanwhile, DC's own D&D Paladin character, Superman, gets the stupidly grimy Man of Steel movie.

 

Yet another sign that DC doesn't really get it.

 

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2014 12:48 PM (UWFpX)

327 I have a Purple Man action figure. It's up in my room.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 09, 2014 12:48 PM (V4CBV)

328 Somebody mentioned the name Crowley and it reminded me.I saw a picture on Twitter with Obama wearing an Aleister Crowley tee shirt.Photoshop?If it is real it is disturbing.

I imagine it's just a phase he's going through, it'll stop when he finds out Crowley was a British secret agent.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 09, 2014 12:48 PM (kwc/t)

329 323 302 As far as I remember, there's a flashback where she explains why she stopped being a costumed superhero. She ends up getting tangled up with the Purple Man and becoming his plaything for months and nobody notices she was even gone until he sends her off to kill Daredevil and it all goes horribly wrong for her. There's a lot of implied sexual abuse (but no rape as far as I remember). --- It was effectively mental rape... Purple Man fucked with her mind to the point where she thought she loved him and would do anything for him and he'd refuse to touch her, instead having his various coeds of choice for the evening. This trait showed back up for Purple Man during a New Thunderbolts arc, in which he attempted to rape a mind-controlled Songbird while she was taking a break from the team to go to college.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 09, 2014 12:49 PM (zVFRW)

330 329 Somebody mentioned the name Crowley and it reminded me.I saw a picture on Twitter with Obama wearing an Aleister Crowley tee shirt.Photoshop?If it is real it is disturbing. I imagine it's just a phase he's going through, it'll stop when he finds out Crowley was a British secret agent. --- Great, now I gotta put Mister Crowley by Ozzy on my headphones.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 09, 2014 12:50 PM (zVFRW)

331 So - triple wedding unless they want to leave the fans on a sour note (see How I Met Your Mother). How did that end. You can spoil it I don't mind. Posted by: eleven at May 09, 2014 04:32 PM (GXZgZ) SPOILER: Basically they did too good a job of introducing the Mother through flash-forwards, flashbacks and the actress they hired was perfect a real honey with a great personality. So, they throw that all away right at the end with a 3 second recap of her dying and then- well, Ted loved the Mother but didn't love love her, all along he really loved and wanted Robin- you know the idea that there's only one person meant for you in the universe- -Robin and Barney divorced- Robin bitterly regrets her marriage to Barney- -the kids say hey, marry Robin- that's what this story is really about- not how you met our Mom but how you loved Robin all along! Ted runs out- shows up at Robin's with blue-painted saxophone like the first episode- they smile... FIN The real problem is the whole last season was one long meaningless jerk-off.`

Posted by: naturalfake at May 09, 2014 12:51 PM (0cMkb)

332 I was reading this thread and saw a tweet from Boehner announcing the Benghazi committee members and I tagged it: The #BenghaziAvengers mwahaha

Posted by: votermom at May 09, 2014 12:52 PM (GSIDW)

333

@152 Actually: I could handle that, and Marvel themselves have made noises about starting a property kind of like that. Regular humans who have access to (mostly) StarkTech who have to protect normal people from minor super-villains AND super-fights (think about how many cars/buildings/trains blow up in a standard fight between supers).

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Both Marvel and DC have played with this.  Marvel has Damage Control, which is a company that specializes in cleaning up after supers-related battles.  DC has the appropriately powered equivalent of a SWAT team attached to the Metropolis police department (or rather, they did before the setting reboot a few years ago; I'm not sure if the Metropolis PD still has the unit).

 

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2014 12:52 PM (UWFpX)

334 If you binge watch WH13, keep a notepad handy and write down all the historical references. Then you'll dump like $500 on Amazon. Trust me. Posted by: tangonine at May 09, 2014 04:44 PM (x3YFz) lol I have a long list of movies, but it adds up to the cost of a good 12 ga shotgun. I'm torn. Can't have both. Might need the shotgun more than the dvds.

Posted by: The Hoser at May 09, 2014 12:54 PM (u6gWL)

335 a good show would be to adapt the movie "Jumper" to a TV format, and the Paladin/Jumper fight could be the motivating plot line. 


Posted by: MTF at May 09, 2014 12:54 PM (F58x4)

336 Jessica Jones = Power woman

Posted by: dk70 at May 09, 2014 12:54 PM (JqW1y)

337 You disapprove of Jimmy Olsen, boy reporter?  Homoiphobe!

Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 09, 2014 12:55 PM (XO6WW)

338 The best television viewing is the day after broadcast, with no commercial interruptions. I like Grimm, and our daughter never misses it. The newest season of The Continuum lost a bit of something when the writers changed the "rules" according to previous seasons so they wouldn't have to connect plot lines. The Americans is done really well. Russian KGB spy "illegal" adults/parents raising their American children next door to an FBI neighbor with a kid the same age. Lots of love triangles, deceit and suspense. In fact, how they hold together any trust is an underlying framework of great sensitivity -- hardly ever addressed any more. Too painful to touch. (Only one episode was mechanically engineered completely wrong for the era, the writers' plot centered on a CNC machined sub propeller a decade before CNC machining.) Sunday evenings keeping tensions low, we like the Masterpiece Classics Mr. Selfridge, Edwardian period entering WWI, American owner of THE cutting edge luxury retail store in London, up against the elitist British aristocracy always out to snub (ruin) him. But the Masterpiece episodes cut short at 45 minutes! The Good Wife almost lost our viewership, not that we miss the biggest nose evah lead lawyer character, but the hate that completely spun out of control for a few episodes was too abrasive to view. Lead character regained her balance after the death of her previous lover. Though Democrats in love with the Clintons, the show tackles parenting, office politics, courtroom politics, injustices from The Patriot Act, DHS, NSA surveillance. (Thing is, viewers are not governors and don't have the ability to reassert our privacy online/communications with a single phone call to a US Senator on the right committee.) Through all the deceits per plot, that the characters have established trust (by degree) in alliances holds the show together.

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 09, 2014 12:56 PM (gmrH5)

339 Marvel has Damage Control, which is a company that specializes in cleaning up after supers-related battles. --- Damage Control also got involved in the fighting during at least one mega-crossover, World War Hulk, in which Ant-Man (hiding out under the identity Slaying Mantis) and some of his co-workers attempted to take on the Hulk. To say it ended badly would be an understatement. Ant Man got into Hulk's organs to fight him and still got his ass kicked.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 09, 2014 12:56 PM (zVFRW)

340 337 Jessica Jones = Power woman --- How many shitty names can one hero have? Jewel, Knightress, Power Woman...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 09, 2014 12:58 PM (zVFRW)

341 Now, if you do it in a TV show- say, Agents of SHIELD- you could definitely go for a Man from UNCLE or M:I vibe. But even then it's usually the bad guy doing something first, and then the good guys investigating/busting-up the plot.

"Hi. I'm Kal-El, and until today, I thought the day my parents died and my planet blew up was the worst day of my life..."

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 09, 2014 12:59 PM (kwc/t)

342 So, will Ronan Farrow play in the upcoming tv series Rosemary's Baby?

Posted by: panzernashorn at May 09, 2014 01:00 PM (gmrH5)

343

@341 Jessica Jones = Power woman

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How many shitty names can one hero have?

Jewel, Knightress, Power Woman...

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I would assume that it's a reference to her husband's former alias.  Luke Cage called himself Power Man for a while.

 

Posted by: junior at May 09, 2014 01:04 PM (UWFpX)

344 I would assume that it's a reference to her husband's former alias. Luke Cage called himself Power Man for a while. --- Still a crappy super hero name, which is partly why Cage quit using it years ago IIRC. Also way too close a name to DC's Power Girl, who is infamous for having the biggest set of "World's Most Common Super Powers" on her chest, complete with a cleavage window.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 09, 2014 01:06 PM (zVFRW)

345 And just as an aside, yes, there were CNC machines in the 80's. Heck, I'm pretty sure they went back to the 60's and punch cards.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 09, 2014 01:06 PM (kwc/t)

346 271 I like The Americans because I hate commies. But it has too much relationshipb and pain in the ass children shit. There is a guy who goes around snapping commie broads necks (he's gay and hates women and commies) but I'm afraid he is not long for this world...

Posted by: Pug Me Baby! at May 09, 2014 04:27 PM (3U9Bd)

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I like the stuff with the kids. There they are, top KGB spies, working deep undercover, stealing America's secrets, killing people, etc. But, they have to maintain their cover and they can't risk letting their children know what they are. So, they have to bring up their kids to be good Americans. The storyline with the daughter getting religion - love it.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2014 01:08 PM (IN7k+)

347

Oooh, I didn't realize Ryan from the OC was in this Gotham thing. I might actually have to check it out.

 

Love Felicity and Arrow, have zero interest in the Flash. AoS does seem to have gotten a little better since I dumped it mid season.

 

I actually loved Captain America. Like, this is my favorite of all the Marvel (Thor, Avengers, etc) movies I've seen.

Posted by: Lea at May 09, 2014 01:14 PM (lIU4e)

348 346 Yes,and the Soviets were incapable of making silenced propellers for a long time.I believe they eventually aquired the capability from the Japanese.

Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2014 01:15 PM (zqvg6)

349 Only one episode was mechanically engineered completely wrong for the era, the writers' plot centered on a CNC machined sub propeller a decade before CNC machining.

Not being up on the history of submarine technology, that went right by me. What I liked most about that storyline was the outrage of the Soviets at the evil Americans. The Soviets steal American technology, only come to find out it was a honeypot and the sub goes down with all hands. And who is to blame for all those deaths? Reagan and the evil Americans! It also cracks me up when they go off on Reagan.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 09, 2014 01:21 PM (IN7k+)

350 "The real problem is the whole last season was one long meaningless jerk-off.` " =============== Yeah, it really left a bad taste in my mouth. Somebody on Twitter summed it up well: ultimately the show was really "How I Met Your Stepmother," even after making a very strong case for nine years that Ted and Robin weren't a very good couple.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at May 09, 2014 01:25 PM (/AHDz)

351
"a CNC machined sub propeller a decade before CNC machining"



So far off:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_numerical_control

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 09, 2014 01:39 PM (kdS6q)

352 >>>>Yeah, it really left a bad taste in my mouth. Somebody on Twitter summed it up well: ultimately the show was really "How I Met Your Stepmother," even after making a very strong case for nine years that Ted and Robin weren't a very good couple. so basically how I met your mother is Friends v2.0

Posted by: Buzzion at May 09, 2014 01:53 PM (2QoUA)

353 Hey,go easy on Hollywood. They don't have time to think up good shows....do you even realize how much time it takes to find 9 year old boys for the weekend parties?

Posted by: azjaeger at May 09, 2014 02:26 PM (bq8mO)

354 "so basically how I met your mother is Friends v2.0" ========== Only with more dead mothers.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at May 09, 2014 02:28 PM (/AHDz)

355 So they plan to do with Batman what they did with Superman in Smallville? Why not? That lasted ten years.

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at May 09, 2014 03:08 PM (JcN7j)

356 Yeah. I hate shows where the bad guys get shot to death all the time.

Posted by: raylan givens at May 09, 2014 03:20 PM (X3cIT)

357 Rome? Even the Latin in the grafitti was wrong on that one. If it weren't for the sex and nudity, nobody would have watched it. (pretty much the story for most of cable)

Posted by: formwiz at May 10, 2014 07:46 AM (3rwvI)

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