February 12, 2014

Democratic Candidate for Congress: "[I] Voted to Let You Keep Your Existing Health Plan"
— Ace

Apparently they won't be exactly running on Obamacare after all.

Now, it is true that Garcia doesn’t call for repeal. Indeed, the ad boasts that the candidate is “working to fix” the law, and it praises him both for holding “insurance companies accountable” and for defending the provision that prevents insurance companies from denying coverage to those with pre-existing conditions. But it is fascinating to watch a Political Action Committee associated with Nancy “we’re going to run on Obamacare” Pelosi slamming the White House for “the disastrous healthcare website” and boasting — without any time qualification, it should be said — that its man “voted to let you keep your existing health plan.”

Posted by: Ace at 10:39 AM | Comments (294)
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1 What a scumbag.

Posted by: Gaff at February 12, 2014 10:41 AM (jPS2y)

2 So Vic, you getting enough snow yet?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 10:42 AM (0FSuD)

3

This isn't possible - I was informed by an electoral genius commenter on this blog that Democrats would be stuck defending Obamacare and would go down in flames as a result.  Further, that would result in Democrats being left to wander the political wilderness for a generation since their arguments have been so roundly discredited...

 

Who could have foreseen a Democrat running on what Obamacare should have been instead of what it turned out to be.....?

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 10:42 AM (PFy0L)

4 Something between the one line posts and the movie reviews is what we're looking for.

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 10:42 AM (7wu7R)

5 This same ad is also being run by some other Dems in trouble.. they just change the name..

Hahaha.. I'm running on: "Disastrous!"  That'll work, huh?  Won't it?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2014 10:42 AM (Z7PrM)

6 Unsurprising.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 12, 2014 10:42 AM (o9Rp5)

7 If you like your lying scumbag congressman...

Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 10:43 AM (MMC8r)

8 So he admits he didn't read the bill then.  Easily countered.

So we know it won't be.

Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 10:43 AM (/29Nl)

9 The truth?  From the mouth of a commie in denial?

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 10:43 AM (T2V/1)

10 Maybe a 'Top 10 Bribes Ray Nagin Didn't Take'?

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 10:43 AM (7wu7R)

11 Uh.... Federal Election Commision??? Hello??? IRS??? anyone home??? This is a blatant Campaign Ad, paid for by an advocacy group! Bet THEY are Tax Exempt...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 10:43 AM (84gbM)

12 "I Voted to Let You Keep Your Existing Health Plan" The uninsured salute you, sir!

Posted by: t-bird at February 12, 2014 10:43 AM (FcR7P)

13 How can you be talking about politics when the culture is being shattered by the one two punch of Zombeavers and Lesbian Vampire Killers? All that's needed is an Ian Zerling crossover and the FINAL SEAL WILL BE LIFTED!

Posted by: Iblis at February 12, 2014 10:44 AM (9221z)

14 so if he “voted to let you keep your existing health plan.” then he either voted against the law or he never read it and was suckered in by pelosi. Great platform to run on..."Vote for me cause I vote for stuff other people tell me to"

Posted by: cu'chulainn at February 12, 2014 10:44 AM (Vk2CC)

15 Democrats running ads criticizing ObamaCare





So Democrats are racists now?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 10:44 AM (1Jaio)

16 2 So Vic, you getting enough snow yet?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 02:42 PM (0FSuD)



Not snowing now.  It quit earlier this morning.  Getting sleet now.  Its worse.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 10:44 AM (T2V/1)

17 Well it's a guy trying to get re-elected in Florida. Florida--oh ya. Swing back baby!

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 10:44 AM (RJMhd)

18 Fool you once? Shame on me.
Fool you twice, congressman for eternity.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 12, 2014 10:44 AM (XUKZU)

19 Start pointing out that Garcia would vote to give you the same one Cuba has, see how that goes over.

Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 10:45 AM (MMC8r)

20

Everyone of you fuckers that thinks the SHUTDOWN was a bad idea.  Give me one fucking iota of proof that that was the case.  One f'ing piece of evidence.

 

How dare Cruz draw a line in the sand and identify the GOP as the party taking a hard stand against this piece of shit law?  HOW DARE HE?????????

 

AllenG:

It sure seems so. NRO, Weekly Standard, and the rest of the so-called right wing thinkers, refuse to just draw a fucking line in the sand.

Why is the NRA so powerful? It's because they are WE THE PEOPLE and guess what, no matter the heat, no matter the chattering classes, they flat out say fuck you, STAND AND FIGHT!!!

Are there no Breitbart's left?? Here's one. Fuck you. War.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 12, 2014 10:45 AM (tVTLU)

21 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 10:45 AM (PYAXX)

22 If you like your doctor YOU CAN KEEP your doctor. Voted to LET YOU KEEP Your Existing Health Plan" Thanks, John Iscariot Roberts, for endorsing and normalizing this sort of fascist thinking.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2014 10:45 AM (7ObY1)

23 Instead of holding Insurance Companies accountable, how about holding the Democrat Leadership accountable?

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 10:45 AM (7wu7R)

24 btw, whatever happened to that bill that had Democrat support that allowed everyone to keep their plan? And why wasnt it attached to the debt ceiling hike? yeah, exactly..

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 10:45 AM (YWssJ)

25 So he admits he didn't read the bill then.

The funniest parts of House of Cards are the bits where Congressman Soze and Hispanic Valjar actually read the education bill being proposed.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 12, 2014 10:46 AM (t8ySh)

26 They should counter the ad by having an actor playing Uncle Sam and a doctor behind him shoving his fist up his ass telling him that is the best part of 404care.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 10:46 AM (/o+xv)

27 Hey, that was NOT my fault, but I'll get in the barrel anyway.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2014 10:46 AM (7ObY1)

28 Here it is:  http://youtu.be/wlv-YvK7I98

This one also uses "disastrous", but also adds "stunning ineptitude"!

The same group is pushing this one: "The House Majority PAC"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2014 10:46 AM (Z7PrM)

29 Please, please tell me the Republican candidate for the district is running "A vote for me = A vote for Repeal" ads. Oh, and also calling this douche out for his duplicity.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 10:46 AM (PYAXX)

30 Not snowing now. It quit earlier this morning. Getting sleet now. Its worse. Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 02:44 PM (T2V/1) True dat. Good luck. Brown liquor? check. Fire wood? Check. 4G internet? Who's going to do the morning thread if you lose power?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 10:46 AM (0FSuD)

31 I'm running on: "Disastrous!" That'll work, huh? Won't it? Damn, since that's taken, I'll try, "They Spay and Neuter Pets, Don't They?"

Posted by: t-bird at February 12, 2014 10:47 AM (FcR7P)

32 There is going to be some impressive verbal contortionism once the election heats up this year: "I voted to fail to approve the non-approval of the removal of your health care!"

Posted by: joncelli at February 12, 2014 10:47 AM (RD7QR)

33 Is Ace doing jury duty?

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 10:47 AM (RJMhd)

34 somewhat OT:
Clown Carney bringing the yucks:  Jay Carney: "Being a donor does not get you a job in this administration nor does it preclude you from one."

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 12, 2014 10:47 AM (XUKZU)

35 A couple of months ago the R's had the D's running scared. But as usual, the R's backed off. What is wrong with you, Republicans?

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 10:47 AM (YWssJ)

36 Hey, I voted for Kodos.

Posted by: This Douche at February 12, 2014 10:48 AM (7Iwef)

37 I can't wait for Obama to answer a critic with: of course I have to fix it! Pelosi wrote it! not me.

Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 10:48 AM (4JkHl)

38 Please, please tell me the Republican candidate for the district is running "A vote for me = A vote for Repeal" ads.

Oh, and also calling this douche out for his duplicity.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 02:46 PM (PYAXX)




GOP: We're busy right now waving the white flag.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 10:49 AM (1Jaio)

39 Geez.. a lot of you are sure excitable..

Very few voters will buy into this horseshit..  any decent GOP candidate will rip this stuff to shreds.. even the kos kids made fun of these ads.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2014 10:49 AM (Z7PrM)

40 30  4G internet? Who's going to do the morning thread if you lose power?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 02:46 PM (0FSuD)



The same one who does it when I sleep in after a heavy day of brown.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 10:49 AM (T2V/1)

41 >>This isn't possible - I was informed by an electoral genius commenter on this blog that Democrats would be stuck defending Obamacare and would go down in flames as a result. And they are. The only thing he is defending is the "disastrous website", not Obamacare. Some of those same electoral geniuses said that the msm, guys like Fournier and Powers, would begin to distance themselves from Obama as it became obvious Obamacare is a disaster. And they are.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 10:49 AM (g1DWB)

42 I can't wait for Obama to answer a critic with: of course I have to fix it! Pelosi wrote it! not me. I wonder if the WH ever wishes they'd called it "PelosiCare?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 10:49 AM (PYAXX)

43 I'm gonna make some hot dogs. No wonder why I'm getting fat..

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 10:49 AM (YWssJ)

44 This just in: Changing the drive belt on a 1997 Ford Ranger in freezing rain is not fun.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 12, 2014 10:49 AM (JQuNB)

45 Question? So did this dipshit vote for ObamaCare? Because it seems to me that voting against that pile of shit would have done far more for people being able to keep their insurance plan, than voting for allowing people to keep their plan has accomplished.

Posted by: mugiwara at February 12, 2014 10:50 AM (d5MbT)

46

omg, that video is comedy gold.  "Attack ads by Tea Party billionaires like the Koch brothers can't tell the truth..." but Garcia "took the White House to task" for the botched web site.

 

I bet the White House felt very chastised when they were taken to task.  A severe chiding will come next, and if you re-elect Garcia he will scold them.  With a frowny face and a "wait til your father gets home" look. 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 12, 2014 10:50 AM (A0sHn)

47 If you like your global warming you can keep your global warming.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 10:50 AM (6bMeY)

48 I'm heavy into white flag and toilet paper futures.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 12, 2014 10:50 AM (XUKZU)

49 The party of Judas betraying their Mocha Judas?  I bet nobody saw this coming.

Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2014 10:50 AM (TKFmG)

50 The sad thing is that LIV's will buy this BS. Education and basic societal awareness is dead in this nation.

Posted by: Dandolo at February 12, 2014 10:51 AM (0XBx+)

51 This just in: Changing the drive belt on a 1997 Ford Ranger in freezing rain is not fun. Yeah... I'm thinking that would be one of the more miserable experiences one could have. That said- I wish I *had* a 1997 Ford Ranger in which I could change a drive belt. I had to get rid of my truck when I had kids, and I can't afford one of those King Cab monstrosities.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 10:51 AM (PYAXX)

52 Ace may not be doing Jury Duty but I have federal jury duty next month.  The sent me a mailer saying not to bring anything to the court house. No reading material, no MP3 player, no food, no drink.  Nothing,  I aught to send them a letter back and tell them I'll go one further and not bring anything including myself.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 10:52 AM (T2V/1)

53 Florida politicians and voters, is there anything they can't screw up?

Posted by: Gmac - pondering the stupidity, wishing it burned at February 12, 2014 10:52 AM (4pjhs)

54 There should be some sarcasm ads in reply. "NOW Joe wants to fix Obamacare. He only had four years to fix it before it ruined people. But he doesn't want to repeal it because he supports it."

Posted by: Lester at February 12, 2014 10:52 AM (2UPXV)

55 The Chocolate City Madman needs a roommate.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 10:52 AM (6bMeY)

56 The sent me a mailer saying not to bring anything to the court house. No reading material, no MP3 player, no food, no drink. Wait, what?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 10:52 AM (PYAXX)

57

Sorry for firing off.  I am just so tired of starting every argument with a lie.  We take their talking points.

 

The shutdown was pure gold.  We should have taken it to the hilt.

 

Income inequality is laughable.  Why are we even talking about it.  Hasn't this guy been president for 6 fucking years now?  Ruin the premise, ruin the talking point.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 12, 2014 10:53 AM (tVTLU)

58 Very few voters will buy into this horseshit..

He'll get the votes of people who are dead, incarcerated, imaginary, cast six ballots, had their absentee ballot filled out by someone else (with or without their knowledge or consent), paid off, or just plain programmed.

Lot of times, that's enough.

Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 10:53 AM (ZKzrr)

59 I've also got some great beach front property in Arizona for sale. It's a great deal!

Posted by: Joe Garcia at February 12, 2014 10:53 AM (Aif/5)

60 "If you like your Constitutional Republic you can keep your Constitutional Republic." Well no, not that either.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 12, 2014 10:53 AM (W5p55)

61 Everyone that had anything to do with this "law"--the entire Democrat Party, the media, the health insurance industry, John Roberts--in a criminal.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at February 12, 2014 10:54 AM (0h8aq)

62 Every time the Shutdown is raised, our side needs to point out the Obama Administration and the Weaponization of the Parks Department.

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 10:54 AM (7wu7R)

63 the candidate is “working to fix” the law By 'fix' does he mean make permanent? Because the law is working as intended. Not as sold, but as intended.

Posted by: t-bird at February 12, 2014 10:54 AM (FcR7P)

64 Wait, what?

They've summoned too many assholes who can't put down their phones for five minutes to tell a judge they're too busy/important/stupid to be on a jury, now Vic has to suffer.

Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 10:54 AM (ZKzrr)

65 Nothing, I aught to send them a letter back and tell them I'll go one further and not bring anything including myself.
Posted by: Vic
..........
Just ask everyone if they read AoSHQ like you do every day.. tell them you are a contributor and that it is a far right-wing blog..  You'll be dismissed in hours.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2014 10:54 AM (Z7PrM)

66 Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 02:52 PM (T2V/1) show up Naked.... after all... clothes DO have Labels in them... and you can't bring reading material...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 10:55 AM (84gbM)

67 I don't understand what they expect you to do while you are sitting around waiting to be called for jury duty. They must have agitated people non stop there if they expect them just to sit there. What the heck is the matter with bringing a book?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at February 12, 2014 10:55 AM (RZ8pf)

68 Everyone of you fuckers that thinks the SHUTDOWN was a bad idea. Give me one fucking iota of proof that that was the case. One f'ing piece of evidence.

The fact that Ted Cruz will never be President.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 10:55 AM (SY2Kh)

69 Jerry "Jabba" Nadler explains it all:

I voted against the farm bill essentially because it contains $8 billion in cuts to the food stamp program. Â… ThatÂ’s just immoral, frankly. I donÂ’t see how we can do that. Not in this recession, where people canÂ’t find jobs, weÂ’re not extending unemployment insurance, and now we want to starve people? ThatÂ’s wrong. Â… Any program, humans beings will find a way to have some fraud. We have plenty of protections to minimize the fraud. If Republicans wanted to say, letÂ’s put in this extra protection, that extra protection, that would be something else. TheyÂ’re just using that as an excuse. They just want people to starve, and itÂ’s disgusting.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 12, 2014 10:55 AM (XUKZU)

70 Wear a hood.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 10:55 AM (6bMeY)

71 A severe chiding will come next, and if you re-elect Garcia he will scold them. With a frowny face and a "wait til your father gets home" look. That really would scare Barky. He wouldn't know who would show up.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2014 10:55 AM (qc7at)

72 Yeah, if we learned anything from the 08 and especially '12 elections, voters do not buy into bullshit. oh wait..

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 10:56 AM (YWssJ)

73 They've summoned too many assholes who can't put down their phones for five minutes to tell a judge they're too busy/important/stupid to be on a jury, now Vic has to suffer. I actually kind of understand no phones/MP3 players... no reading material? No food? No drinks? How does an Arizona Iced Tea and a bag of skittles disrupt the jury selection process?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 10:56 AM (PYAXX)

74 The post-military coup show trials are going to be fun. I'm picturing Democrat congressmen and women in full "Do it to Julia! Do it Julia!" mode. The mutual denunciations, denials, the appeals for their lives...yet it will barely quench my thirst for vengeance.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at February 12, 2014 10:56 AM (Ec6wH)

75 The same one who does it when I sleep in after a heavy day of brown. Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 02:49 PM (T2V/1) Wait, Vic has a "ghost writer". Does Gabe know about this? It is still snowing like fuck in CLT. Six inches now.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 10:56 AM (0FSuD)

76 He calls his ad "the truth." That is awesome. I didn't click on it, but I bet the ad says "sorry I shoved this sh** sandwich down your throat. Please re-elect me because I care...even though every action I take will make your life more miserable."

Posted by: Duke at February 12, 2014 10:56 AM (d3clc)

77 heh. Radio running an ad by faux-conservative Americans for a Conservative Direction.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 12, 2014 10:56 AM (aDwsi)

78 Now you're working to "fix" the law?

Maybe you shouldn't have worked so hard to break things to begin with, asshole.

Posted by: Jay at February 12, 2014 10:56 AM (oR3X/)

79 Why can't they just be honest and say: I'm a democrat, so I want something for nothing, and if you vote for me, I can have it. I can't be bothered to think ahead for more than 10 minutes, but I really would like all the perks of office, so it would be really mean if you voted for somebody else.



See? Not that hard at all.



Penisheads.

Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2014 10:56 AM (fwcEs)

80 It will work on LIV's they hear Koch brothers or millionaires and they clap like trained seals. They're clueless. On a side note, fucking lefties didn't even have a clue on who the Koch brothers were a few years ago until the MSM made them into their boogey man. God they are dumb.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (/o+xv)

81 Vic, just remind them that your civics education pre dates FDR and that you remember the real Constitution. You'll be home in twenty minutes.

Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (4JkHl)

82 "I Voted to Let You Keep Your Existing Health Plan" Hey remember when we designed the Edsel? I voted for two chrome rings in the grille instead of three!!!

Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (1Y+hH)

83 Tell the you're Peruvian and you're proud.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (6bMeY)

84 If an election were held today between obama vs Any Republican of your choosing, who would win? yeah, exactly..

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (YWssJ)

85

Hollowpoint:

LOL.  Good one.  Let's go out there and find a moderate former investment banker who reaches across the aisle.  There's our winner.  To all you "moderate" GOPe people.  You've had 8 yrs now of horseshit.  Time to let us take the reins for a while.  Take care.

 

Garrett:

 

Absofrickinglutely.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (tVTLU)

86 Maybe a 'Top 10 Bribes Ray Nagin Didn't Take'?
A date with Sarah Palin's moose.

Posted by: davey letterman at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (/QAZd)

87 Here's Manchin (Sen. Democrat West Virginia)in 2010 promising to repeal "the bad parts of ObamaCare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIJORBRpOPM

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (RJMhd)

88 Mr. Garcia, did you actually read the bill before you voted on it or did you just listen to the WH talking points?

Because if you can't comprehend the bills you're voting on why would you consider yourself qualified to serve?

Posted by: CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/PBS at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (POpqt)

89 By the time 2016 election rolls around, the "D" party will have convinced themselves and their base that Obamacare was Bush's fault. And the MFM will be nodding their empty heads in agreement.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (jWJAw)

90 Wait, what? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 02:52 PM (PYAXX


They made me stay until 5 pm last time.  Just so I could hit rush hour traffic leaving Columbia.  We have a federal court house only 35 miles away but they call me to downtown Columbia right next to the Governor's Mansion.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 10:57 AM (T2V/1)

91 Well really if this guy's constituents believe his BS and re-elect him, they are getting the representation they deserve.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (RZ8pf)

92 Well really if this guy's constituents believe his BS and re-elect him, they are getting the representation they deserve.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (RZ8pf)

93 What is wrong with you, Republicans?

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 02:47 PM (YWssJ)



Like scorpions, they are what they are!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (o3MSL)

94 What is wrong with you, Republicans?

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 02:47 PM (YWssJ)



Like scorpions, they are what they are!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (o3MSL)

95 "Voted to let you keep your existing health plan." Who are the ones taking it, you stupid fuck?? Oh, right, you and your ideological co-conspirators.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (0h8aq)

96 "Voted to let you keep your existing health plan." Who are the ones taking it, you stupid fuck?? Oh, right, you and your ideological co-conspirators.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (0h8aq)

97

Clown Carney bringing the yucks: Jay Carney: "Being a donor does not get you a job in this administration nor does it preclude you from one. Besides, it's ONLY ambassadorships. WTH could go wrong?"

 

FIFY

Posted by: Piers at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (R5UOB)

98

Clown Carney bringing the yucks: Jay Carney: "Being a donor does not get you a job in this administration nor does it preclude you from one. Besides, it's ONLY ambassadorships. WTH could go wrong?"

 

FIFY

Posted by: Piers at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (R5UOB)

99

Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 02:49 PM (g1DWB)

 

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Heh, you aren't the political genius commenter I was thinking of. 

 

That said, you'll notice his is a platform of fixing, not nixing.  When the criticisms start centering around how government is simply unable to manage a healthcare system, I'll start thinking your argument makes sense.  But for now, that's not where the criticism is.  The criticisms are coming from failures to implement, not philosophical opposition to Obamacare itself.

 

And that's why talk of the Left running away from anything to do with government involvement in healthcare is fanciful thinking.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (PFy0L)

100

Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 02:49 PM (g1DWB)

 

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Heh, you aren't the political genius commenter I was thinking of. 

 

That said, you'll notice his is a platform of fixing, not nixing.  When the criticisms start centering around how government is simply unable to manage a healthcare system, I'll start thinking your argument makes sense.  But for now, that's not where the criticism is.  The criticisms are coming from failures to implement, not philosophical opposition to Obamacare itself.

 

And that's why talk of the Left running away from anything to do with government involvement in healthcare is fanciful thinking.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (PFy0L)

101 Also no restaurant within walking distance.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (T2V/1)

102 Also no restaurant within walking distance.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 10:58 AM (T2V/1)

103 Birds have mites.  Wild birds.  Most of them.  Little parasites.

I once picked up a dying bird and the *instant* it died, the mites fled the body and covered my hand.

That is this.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (4Re4i)

104 Birds have mites.  Wild birds.  Most of them.  Little parasites.

I once picked up a dying bird and the *instant* it died, the mites fled the body and covered my hand.

That is this.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (4Re4i)

105 oh wait..

Posted by: Soothsayer
..........
It's different when Messiah is on the ballot.  We will have a wave election year like in 2010.  Just keep on about how bad Obamacare is. Non-stop.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (Z7PrM)

106 oh wait..

Posted by: Soothsayer
..........
It's different when Messiah is on the ballot.  We will have a wave election year like in 2010.  Just keep on about how bad Obamacare is. Non-stop.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (Z7PrM)

107 No food? No drinks?

Are you hearing a case or going to a movie?

Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (ZKzrr)

108 No food? No drinks?

Are you hearing a case or going to a movie?

Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (ZKzrr)

109 81 Vic, just remind them that your civics education pre dates FDR and that you remember the real Constitution. You'll be home in twenty minutes. Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 02:57 PM (4JkHl) Or that right after Benjy Franklin said "a Republic Maam, if you can keep it"... He turned to Vic and said "wow... what a MILF!"

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (84gbM)

110 81 Vic, just remind them that your civics education pre dates FDR and that you remember the real Constitution. You'll be home in twenty minutes. Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 02:57 PM (4JkHl) Or that right after Benjy Franklin said "a Republic Maam, if you can keep it"... He turned to Vic and said "wow... what a MILF!"

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (84gbM)

111 Would you trust your fate to 12 people too dumb to get out of jury duty?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (6bMeY)

112 Would you trust your fate to 12 people too dumb to get out of jury duty?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (6bMeY)

113 >>Yeah, if we learned anything from the 08 and especially '12 elections, voters do not buy into bullshit.

I know, right?

Posted by: Dead Voters, Mutiple Votesr, Illegal Immigrant Voters & "Found" Ballots at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (POpqt)

114 >>Yeah, if we learned anything from the 08 and especially '12 elections, voters do not buy into bullshit.

I know, right?

Posted by: Dead Voters, Mutiple Votesr, Illegal Immigrant Voters & "Found" Ballots at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (POpqt)

115 This should not be allowed. Absolutely EVERY Democrat who even TRIES crap like this should be slammed ASAP. RNC, if you would kindly get your head out of your ass, should have an ad up by the end of this afternoon refuting everything this clown says. Destroy this fool. Now. Ensure no other Democrat tries this.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (Lljg2)

116 This should not be allowed. Absolutely EVERY Democrat who even TRIES crap like this should be slammed ASAP. RNC, if you would kindly get your head out of your ass, should have an ad up by the end of this afternoon refuting everything this clown says. Destroy this fool. Now. Ensure no other Democrat tries this.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at February 12, 2014 10:59 AM (Lljg2)

117 Maybe a 'Top 10 Bribes Ray Nagin Didn't Take'?
A date with Sarah Palin's moose.

From the Committee to Clean Up the Corruption in the Democratic Party

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (XUKZU)

118 Maybe a 'Top 10 Bribes Ray Nagin Didn't Take'?
A date with Sarah Palin's moose.

From the Committee to Clean Up the Corruption in the Democratic Party

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (XUKZU)

119 The sent me a mailer saying not to bring anything to the court house. No reading material, no MP3 player, no food, no drink. They expect a lot for $2/day.

Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (MMC8r)

120 The sent me a mailer saying not to bring anything to the court house. No reading material, no MP3 player, no food, no drink. They expect a lot for $2/day.

Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (MMC8r)

121 That said, you'll notice his is a platform of fixing, not nixing.

STIX HIX PIX NIX NOT FIX!

Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (ZKzrr)

122 That said, you'll notice his is a platform of fixing, not nixing.

STIX HIX PIX NIX NOT FIX!

Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (ZKzrr)

123 Ace may not be doing Jury Duty but I have federal jury duty next month. The sent me a mailer saying not to bring anything to the court house. No reading material, no MP3 player, no food, no drink. Nothing, I aught to send them a letter back and tell them I'll go one further and not bring anything including myself.

Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 02:52 PM (T2V/1)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

You need to write them a note back with a question:  Would our present occupant of the WH attend jury duty, or would he opt out?

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (5XB5E)

124 Ace may not be doing Jury Duty but I have federal jury duty next month. The sent me a mailer saying not to bring anything to the court house. No reading material, no MP3 player, no food, no drink. Nothing, I aught to send them a letter back and tell them I'll go one further and not bring anything including myself.

Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 02:52 PM (T2V/1)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

You need to write them a note back with a question:  Would our present occupant of the WH attend jury duty, or would he opt out?

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (5XB5E)

125

80 Minnfidel...

 

You just insulted seals. 

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (R5UOB)

126

80 Minnfidel...

 

You just insulted seals. 

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (R5UOB)

127 **shoves a 12 pack of beer, a mike, and a short skirt through the USB port to tcn**



The horde respectfully requests that you please sing us a song.  Standing ovations guaranteed.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (sjdRT)

128 **shoves a 12 pack of beer, a mike, and a short skirt through the USB port to tcn**



The horde respectfully requests that you please sing us a song.  Standing ovations guaranteed.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (sjdRT)

129 I once picked up a dying bird and the *instant* it died, the mites fled the body and covered my hand. This should be a line in 'GHOST RAT SHIP : THE MOVIE'.

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (7wu7R)

130 I once picked up a dying bird and the *instant* it died, the mites fled the body and covered my hand. This should be a line in 'GHOST RAT SHIP : THE MOVIE'.

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 11:00 AM (7wu7R)

131

STIX HIX PIX NIX NOT FIX!

 

--------------

 

 

I almost signed that one as Jesse Jackson.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 11:01 AM (PFy0L)

132 I actually kind of understand no phones/MP3 players... no reading material? No food? No drinks? How does an Arizona Iced Tea and a bag of skittles disrupt the jury selection process? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 02:56 PM (PYAXX) Call me paranoid or odd, but with a wife and two small daughters, I don't go anywhere without my phone. It would be just my luck that something would happen and they would need me. So no, I wouldn't leave my phone at home. And as a Type 1 diabetic, screw whoever thinks they're gonna restrict my movements AND my access to food.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 11:01 AM (da5Wo)

133 A date with Sarah Palin's moose.
Sarah.
Palin.
Moose.

Posted by: davey letterman at February 12, 2014 11:01 AM (/QAZd)

134 >>It's different when Messiah is on the ballot. We will have a wave election year like in 2010. Just keep on about how bad Obamacare is. Non-stop.

And states will just put legalized pot on their ballots to draw every LIV out to the polls.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 12, 2014 11:01 AM (POpqt)

135 105 The sent me a mailer saying not to bring anything to the court house. No reading material, no MP3 player, no food, no drink.

They expect a lot for $2/day.

Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 03:00 PM (MMC8r)


Can I bring my knitting? Or is that too political? How about a change of underpants?

Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2014 11:01 AM (fwcEs)

136 He "took the White House to task" and white slaveholders used to force slaves to perform tasks. Pretty clear what's going on here if you ask me.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at February 12, 2014 11:02 AM (dvRYt)

137 The Weather channel is hammering CLT because they have footage of ONE road backed up. Sort of silly, BUT it is another city run by democrats and also has a Black mayor. So have at it and so blame them.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 11:02 AM (0FSuD)

138 IUOE leader William Waggoner flew Solis between nearby commuter airports in El Monte, Calif. and Ontario, Calif., as well as Washington, D.C., so Solis “could avoid freeway traffic,” a source told Hews Media Group. Solis and Pasadena-based IUOE Local 12 had political ties dating back to Solis’ career in Congress, according to the report. Solis was not named as a defendant in the lawsuit.

Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa at February 12, 2014 11:02 AM (e8kgV)

139

Vic, Bcochran, etc.,

 

I didn't know they restricted it so much.  That's kind of odd.  Many jurors get special privileges, i.e., can bring in camera phones when no one else can for the very reasons that bcochran mentions.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 12, 2014 11:02 AM (tVTLU)

140 The sent me a mailer saying not to bring anything to the court house. No reading material, no MP3 player, no food, no drink. Nothing,


You are permitted to bring one playing card, provided it is a six or lower.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 12, 2014 11:02 AM (8ZskC)

141 Funny that the treatment they give prospective jurors they couldn't do to the people that actually get convicted.

Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 11:02 AM (MMC8r)

142 109 **shoves a 12 pack of beer, a mike, and a short skirt through the USB port to tcn**



The horde respectfully requests that you please sing us a song. Standing ovations guaranteed.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 03:00 PM (sjdRT)


One pill makes you larger.....

Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2014 11:03 AM (fwcEs)

143 Vic, when they start asking you questions during selection tell them you've changed your name to SMOD and that the end times are nigh! Or you could just scream out. What difference at this point does it make! Worked for her thighness.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 11:03 AM (/o+xv)

144 Can I bring my knitting? Or is that too political? How about a change of underpants? Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2014 03:01 PM (fwcEs) doubt the knitting needles would make it through the Weapons check at the door...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 11:03 AM (84gbM)

145 What the fucking hell?  I lost 12 IQ points watching that ad.

So he VOTED to let me keep what I already had?  How about he just leaves me the fuck alone and I keep what I already had?

I'm beginning to think that thing he did in my mouth might have been on purpose...

Posted by: Lance Armstrongs missing left nut [/i] at February 12, 2014 11:03 AM (O7Q1u)

146 IT WASN'T ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: guy being pulled out of crawlspace on COPS at February 12, 2014 11:03 AM (KXm42)

147 52 Ace may not be doing Jury Duty but I have federal jury duty next month. The sent me a mailer saying not to bring anything to the court house. No reading material, no MP3 player, no food, no drink. Nothing, I aught to send them a letter back and tell them I'll go one further and not bring anything including myself.

Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 02:52 PM (T2V/1)

show up naked!

But in all seriousness, last time I did jury duty, everyone (all jurors) were very respectful and the court treated us all very well.

Professional, serious.  Lives are at stake.  There was an assumed no-nonsense policy and it went very smoothly.

And yes, we could bring our iphones or reading material or lunches or whatever.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:03 AM (4Re4i)

148 He knew the new law required covering pre-existing conditions, and supported it - becaues the old plans did not- but he still thought people would be able to keep their old plans. Reasoning is not his strong suit.

Posted by: Javems at February 12, 2014 11:04 AM (nTgAI)

149 101 Would you trust your fate to 12 people too dumb to get out of jury duty?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 02:59 PM (6bMeY)



They are pretty strict on that here both at the county level and at the federal level.  The age limit has even been raised to 70.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 11:04 AM (T2V/1)

150 65 Nothing, I aught to send them a letter back and tell them I'll go one further and not bring anything including myself. Posted by: Vic *********** Bring the Bible.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 11:04 AM (RJMhd)

151 Fed trials can last a LONG time, but usually they look for juries that can at least read, unlike state juries. It will be fun, especially if you get to put another "democrat" in jail.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 11:04 AM (0FSuD)

152 doubt the knitting needles would make it through the Weapons check at the door... Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 03:03 PM (84gbM) Last time I was at the courthouse they fucking confiscated my paint can opener hanging off my key ring.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 11:04 AM (da5Wo)

153 >One pill makes you larger..... <



*Stands up for ovation*



*Realizes pants are not on*



*Sits back down*

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 11:04 AM (sjdRT)

154 No Angry Birds?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 11:04 AM (6bMeY)

155 115 Can I bring a spare Depends and some wipes?  Because incontinence knows no bounds.

Posted by: Old Man at February 12, 2014 11:04 AM (R5UOB)

156 "How dare Cruz draw a line in the sand and identify the GOP as the party taking a hard stand against this piece of shit law? HOW DARE HE?????????"


Cruz fought on a hill (poorly, by the way), and lost.  I guess some of us are more concerned about what comes next instead of making Cruz into Conservative Jesus.  I seem to recall quite a few former Conservative Jesuses who turned out to be RINOs.

It's creepy when Democrats adore Obama and it's creepy when Conservatives worship [the latest guy/gal who one time said a thing.]

Posted by: Shoot Me at February 12, 2014 11:05 AM (qiXMt)

157 You are permitted to bring one playing card, provided it is a six or lower. Show up with the Ace of Spades and you'll be dismissed.

Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 11:05 AM (7wu7R)

158 Vic, call the registrar and ask if you can bring your "Jury Nullification Handbook".

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 11:05 AM (o3MSL)

159 But Romney was so electable.

Posted by: Really he was at February 12, 2014 11:05 AM (Aif/5)

160 Well there has to be a way to get the defense to not want to pick you. So....where something like a--I dunno--Police Department sweat shirt.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 11:05 AM (RJMhd)

161 *wear* something...ugh.

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 11:05 AM (RJMhd)

162 >>LOL. Good one. Let's go out there and find a moderate former investment banker who reaches across the aisle. There's our winner. To all you "moderate" GOPe people. You've had 8 yrs now of horseshit. Time to let us take the reins for a while. Take care. What horses shit. You had your super conservative Fred! and your super conservative Rick! and both of them flamed out. There was no establishment plot, they sucked as candidates. So did Newt, Santorum, Bachmann, etc.. Anyone who wants to run should jump in. But its not some establishment plot to make guys who call themselves super conservatives lose, its the shitty campaigns they ran.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 11:06 AM (g1DWB)

163 Vic, when they ask you a question, just respond with. That's retarded. Sir.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 11:06 AM (/o+xv)

164 The stage is set for the Libertarian candidate in '16 to easily swing the election to obama's pet, hitlery clinton. That's why the only sensible political choice for a Republican nominee is Rand Paul. He will suck the air out of the Libertarian challenger whereas a Scott Walker, for example, would be severely hurt.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 11:06 AM (YWssJ)

165 What ever they ask you answer with guilty as charged.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 11:06 AM (6bMeY)

166 And yes, we could bring our iphones or reading material or lunches or whatever. Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 03:03 PM (4Re4i) I am pretty sure that was STATE court. Feds are strict. NC courts usually have pretty nice jury rooms and free wifi, and movies (seriously).

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 11:06 AM (0FSuD)

167 But its not some establishment plot to make guys who call themselves super conservatives lose, its the shitty campaigns they ran.

Can we have a moment of silence for the equally shitty campaigns McCain and Romney ran?

Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2014 11:07 AM (B/VB5)

168 Ski jumping is kinda silly. It's basically a test of who has the least dense bone structure. It only has to be strong enough that their bones won't crumple from the landing impact. Bunch of avian-boned bird-people.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 12, 2014 11:07 AM (ZPrif)

169 They didn't say that you couldn't bring any cheese, Vic.

Posted by: Chris Pagano at February 12, 2014 11:07 AM (7wu7R)

170

Can we have a moment of silence for the equally shitty campaigns McCain and Romney ran?

 

----------

 

Word.

 

If Romney were half as eager to break Obama's legs as he was in breaking the legs of his primary challengers, we might have a President Romney today.

 

 

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 11:08 AM (PFy0L)

171 *whistles as he passes out ammo* Now remember fellas, make sure everyone is in the circle before you start firing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 11:08 AM (da5Wo)

172 Democrats will cling to this. And, high five it. The left supporters of obamacare need these guys to lie to them. They need them to come up with whatever lie, no matter how bizarre, to ease their minds. Then, they can say, see, it's going to be fine. We were right. Democrats want to be lied to.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 12, 2014 11:08 AM (IXrOn)

173 Hey Vic, if it's a federal courthouse be sure to go into the foyer and flip the bird to the picture of the SCOAMF for me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 12, 2014 11:08 AM (8ZskC)

174

Shoot me:

 

Some hill eh.  He was attacked/stabbed in the back by the quislings in the smarty "conservative" media and his own fellow Senators.  Great high ground, great support.

 

And stop saying something it's not.  Pick Mike Lee, Rand Paul, anyone willing to fight this nonsense rather than just pussy out for a $2B dam project.

 

So now that your strawman is no longer, and your incorrect assumption is rebutted, anything else?

Posted by: prescient11 at February 12, 2014 11:08 AM (tVTLU)

175 The stage is set for the Libertarian candidate in '16 to easily swing the election to obama's pet, hitlery clinton.

Hillary won't make it through primary season.  Cory Booker will be the Dem.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2014 11:08 AM (B/VB5)

176 Fuck this ObamaCare noise, I'm still celebrating.

PGiS, and any other Seahawks fans out there, watch this awesome video: 

http://tinyurl.com/np5y778

Second or third time you watch it, have Thunderstruck by AC/DC on in the background.  It's awesome.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 12, 2014 11:08 AM (TM1p8)

177 127  And yes, we could bring our iphones or reading material or lunches or whatever.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 03:03 PM (4Re4i)



We could bring stuff the last time  got called up. My understanding is that it is up to the judge.  I guess I drew an asshole this time.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 11:09 AM (T2V/1)

178 My dad was asked if he was willing and able to sit on the jury, and he responded, "Yes, sir, I am, but could you tell me how long it's going to take to hang this bastard?"


He was home for lunch.

Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2014 11:09 AM (fwcEs)

179 Fuck these little Democrat crapweasels. I hope they get skinned alive in November.

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 12, 2014 11:09 AM (wtvvX)

180 Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2014 03:07 PM (B/VB5)

But at least they were electable!

Posted by: Karl Rove at February 12, 2014 11:09 AM (o3MSL)

181 Anyone who wants to run should jump in. But its not some establishment plot to make guys who call themselves super conservatives lose, its the shitty campaigns they ran. Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 03:06 PM ..............I am not going to get into some conspiracy discussion re: the establishment. What I will say is that the primary process SUCKS balls. By the time we even get around to having it up here for instance it's already pretty much decided. I hate the way we do it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 11:09 AM (/o+xv)

182 145 What ever they ask you answer with guilty as charged.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 03:06 PM (6bMeY)

You've never actually done jury duty, have you?

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:09 AM (4Re4i)

183 .

Posted by: Soothsayer, a commenter on a hate-blog at February 12, 2014 11:09 AM (YWssJ)

184 -fighting for this, fighting for you, taking Obama to task-

in sum, fighting for his pathetic little congressional life

Posted by: ed gibbon at February 12, 2014 11:10 AM (p1Akf)

185 Oh and Ray Nagin guilty on 20 of 21 counts.

Posted by: Javems at February 12, 2014 11:10 AM (nTgAI)

186 >>Can we have a moment of silence for the equally shitty campaigns McCain and Romney ran? Not even close to being equally shitty. They at least managed to win the nomination. I hope Cruz does get in. The more the merrier. But if he loses in either the primary or the national can we stop with the establishment plot delusion?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 11:10 AM (g1DWB)

187 Just ask the guard at the door if your imaginary friend can come in and wait with you.

Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 11:10 AM (MMC8r)

188

148

Most of us just watch it for the crashes.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (R5UOB)

189 ♫ Ask the Ewok when he's ten-feet taaaaaal ♫

Posted by: zombie mama cass at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (/QAZd)

190 But at least they were electable!

You're snarking, but Romney actually would've been if he'd bothered to connect with blue-collar workers in Ohio and generally managed his image better.  The sheer volume of people watching the Netflix documentary and saying "OMG, he's not a corporate robot, he's my dad!" is deafening.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (B/VB5)

191 Perhaps he should have read what was in it.

Posted by: d_fitz at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (tgXMD)

192

Some context is needed for this Rep.

 

He's in his first term, elected in 2012 in a newly created district.  He won election by an 11 point margin in his southern Florida district, despite his campaign's involvement in voter registration fraud.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (PFy0L)

193 My understanding is that it is up to the judge. I guess I drew an asshole this time.

Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 03:09 PM (T2V/1)

if it's that bad?  plan on being there a while.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (4Re4i)

194 Damn, I can't over that U.S. woman curler with the big Wendy Davis mole. I'm in full-on Austin Powers mode.

Posted by: logprof at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (X3GkB)

195 Hey, can a dog get a refill on the Moet Chandon around here or what?

Posted by: Bo the Imperial Dog at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (8ZskC)

196 CORRUPTION IN NEW ORLEANS??!!

Say it ain't so!!!

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (wtvvX)

197 The age limit has even been raised to 70.
Posted by: Vic

Oh,  great.

Posted by: Dang - thinking of his mother-in-law at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (MNq6o)

198 No. Our jury system is rigged. Most never serve. Those that do are called over and over again.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 11:11 AM (6bMeY)

199 Burn it Scatter it Cover it Cap it Smother it Salt it Mmmmmmmm

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 12, 2014 11:12 AM (gaOtJ)

200 I love commenting on the WSJ, EXCEPT, they use your real name and my son has the same name. Cut's down on my snarc, he works in DC.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 11:12 AM (0FSuD)

201 >>He won election by an 11 point margin in his southern Florida district, despite his campaign's involvement in voter registration fraud.

Fox Butterfield, is that you?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 12, 2014 11:12 AM (POpqt)

202

>>>The sad thing is that LIV's will buy this BS. Education and basic societal awareness is dead in this nation.

 

Why are they even bothering with "framing" anymore? Is there any purpose to The Narrative when the Dems can just Dictator their way into or out of anything? And the MSM will hum along to the tune?

 

What purpose does positioning serve anymore? ACE can you explain?

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 12, 2014 11:12 AM (3ZtZW)

203 Not even close to being equally shitty. They at least managed to win the nomination.


Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 03:10 PM (g1DWB)

horseshit.  The nominations were awarded to them by the RNC.  Had zero to do with "winning."

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:12 AM (4Re4i)

204 Posted by: prescient11 at February 12, 2014 03:08 PM (tVTLU)


It would have been very interesting to see what would have happened if the Repub and conservative groups had coalesced into a temporary monolith to support Cruz.  But no, we had to maintain the grand Rovian rolling surrender strategy!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 11:13 AM (o3MSL)

205 131 Fed trials can last a LONG time, but usually they look for juries that can at least read, unlike state juries.

It will be fun, especially if you get to put another "democrat" in jail.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 03:04 PM (0FSuD)


I got called up for a county jury a few years ago and reading was a requirement.  During voir dire they asked if there was anyone who could not read.  One elderly black guy stood up and said he could not.  The judge really badgered him trying to get him to say he could at least read a little bit.  He stuck to his guns though and the judge let him go after making several sarcastic remarks.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 11:13 AM (T2V/1)

206

Not even close to being equally shitty. They at least managed to win the nomination.

 

-------

 

Yep, and in those final debates, Romney was a fireball.    Ryan too!

 

/sarc

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 11:13 AM (PFy0L)

207 >151 *whistles as he passes out ammo*

Now remember fellas, make sure everyone is in the circle before you start firing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 03:08 PM (da5Wo)<



May I please have a can of .30-06 M-2 Ball ammunition?  I have a Garand being delivered any day now.


Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 11:13 AM (sjdRT)

208 171 Perhaps he should have read what was in it.

Posted by: d_fitz at February 12, 2014 03:11 PM (tgXMD)



I'm of the opinion that reading comprehension is not a strong suit of the elected officials of this country.

Posted by: tcn at February 12, 2014 11:13 AM (fwcEs)

209 >>What I will say is that the primary process SUCKS balls. By the time we even get around to having it up here for instance it's already pretty much decided. I hate the way we do it. Couldn't agree more, the process blows. It should be over much faster with a much more representative number of states instead of letting it drag on forever, draining resources from the eventual winner and giving the Dems a huge head start.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 11:13 AM (g1DWB)

210 You're snarking, but Romney actually would've been if he'd bothered to connect with blue-collar workers in Ohio and generally managed his image better. Doesn't the very fact that he didn't then prove that he wasn't "electable?" Teh Fred! "would have" been elected if he'd bothered to be awake during his campaign. Rick Perry "would have" been elected if he hadn't stuck his foot in his mouth. The definition of a "crap campaign" seems to be "lost." Well, in that case, Romney and McCain both ran crap campaigns.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 11:13 AM (PYAXX)

211 The age limit has even been raised to 70.


Posted by: Vic


Min or max?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 11:14 AM (o3MSL)

212

175

I hear Mooch has it running in the toilets at the WH...

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 12, 2014 11:14 AM (R5UOB)

213 188 >151
*whistles as he passes out ammo*



Now remember fellas, make sure everyone is in the circle before you start firing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 03:08 PM (da5Wo)<

May I please have a can of .30-06 M-2 Ball ammunition? I have a Garand being delivered any day now.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 03:13 PM (sjdRT)

/reaches for the M67 crate

good to go.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:15 AM (4Re4i)

214 I love commenting on the WSJ, EXCEPT, they use your real name and my son has the same name. Cut's down on my snarc, he works in DC. Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 03:12 PM What kind of parent names their kid Nip Sip?

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 11:15 AM (/o+xv)

215 Aw man Sid Caesar. I didn't really care about Shirley Temple but Sid was an absolute side splitting genius.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2014 11:15 AM (zfY+H)

216 Are you a 5'10, 130 lb man? Congratulations! You have the imposing physique of an olympic caliber ski jumper.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 12, 2014 11:15 AM (ZPrif)

217 May I please have a can of .30-06 M-2 Ball ammunition? I have a Garand being delivered any day now. Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 03:13 PM (sjdRT) No you may not because you're an asshole and I'm jealous.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 11:15 AM (da5Wo)

218 Perhaps he should have read what was in it.


That would be a perfect blast from the R candidate.

Posted by: eleven at February 12, 2014 11:15 AM (KXm42)

219 Aw man Sid Caesar. I didn't really care about Shirley Temple but Sid was an absolute side splitting genius. Oh, bummer. He really stuck around.

Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 11:16 AM (MMC8r)

220

Hrothgar:

 

Indeed!  Imagine that.  Playing poker by supporting your side and not showing any cards.

 

As for the WSJ, another POS "conservative" paper, I give you their proposed Constitutional Amendment in the 1980s:

 

"There shall be open borders."   

 

Everything is upside down.  We really need an American worker/populist/nationalist uprising in this country.  Just what the fuck is going on?

Posted by: prescient11 at February 12, 2014 11:16 AM (tVTLU)

221 The definition of a "crap campaign" seems to be "lost." Well, in that case, Romney and McCain both ran crap campaigns.

To be clear here, I'm not the one disputing that, JackStraw is.  McCain and Romney both made serious unforced errors in the general on things that weren't at issue in the primary.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2014 11:16 AM (B/VB5)

222 How many counts was Nagin found guilty of?


(I know how many,  I just like to hear someone else say it.  Preferably in a soft,  slow,  almost whining whisper.  Like you've got all the time in the world... )

Posted by: Dang at February 12, 2014 11:16 AM (MNq6o)

223 "The definition of a "crap campaign" seems to be "lost." Well, in that case, Romney and McCain both ran crap campaigns."
Obama ran a horrible, crappy campaign and won. It was the worst I'd ever seen, apparently designed to get Americans to dislike him and his supporters.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2014 11:16 AM (zfY+H)

224 You've never actually done jury duty, have you? Got called once. Was asked I I could keep an open mind and judge that case fairly. I responded with, "Well I think so. Yeah. [pause] But generally, when the police arrest you there's probably a pretty good reason." Defense: "Thank you, sir. You are dismissed."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2014 11:16 AM (T83A+)

225 20 out of 21 counts.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 11:16 AM (6bMeY)

226 Perhaps he should have read what was in it.


That would be a perfect blast from the R candidate.

Posted by: eleven at February 12, 2014 03:15 PM (KXm42)


"As your Representative, I promise to read any legislation I vote for!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 11:17 AM (o3MSL)

227 Oh shit Vic, starting to sleet in CLT now. This is not going to turn out well. It is amazing how accurate the forecast has been. Within 15 minutes of when they said it would change. Scary.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 11:17 AM (0FSuD)

228 Kamil Stoch won gold. 5'8, 117 lbs. 117 lb grown man. 5'8! See, fuckin bird people.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 12, 2014 11:17 AM (ZPrif)

229 In retrospect suggesting my department hire a medical anthropologist may have been a bad idea. 2 deep in the job talks and it's just progressivism turned up to 11.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 12, 2014 11:17 AM (U8W/7)

230 Speaking of dead celebs, has anyone seen Enough Said? I miss Gandolfini. . . .

Posted by: logprof at February 12, 2014 11:17 AM (X3GkB)

231 Up yours, Minnfidel!

Posted by: Mr Nip Sip IV of London, England at February 12, 2014 11:17 AM (/QAZd)

232 Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2014 03:16 PM (T83A+) The swelling gone down yet?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 11:17 AM (da5Wo)

233 The Dems could put up a giant Komodo Dragon that only speaks via voiceover and the GOP would still lose. They'd put all their PAC money up against any of their own Tea Party-Like candidate in a clever reverse fake. They'd also be afraid of being called 'speciesist'.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (Eoc5N)

234 Cut's down on my snarc, he works in DC. Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 03:12 PM What kind of parent names their kid Nip Sip? One who is named Nip Sip?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (qc7at)

235 "As your Representative, I promise to read any legislation I vote for!" As your Representative, I promise all legislation will be read on the House Floor prior to any vote.* (This *may* be something only Senators can promise, but I think Reps can, too).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (PYAXX)

236 Got called once. Was asked I I could keep an open mind and judge that case fairly. I responded with, "Well I think so. Yeah. [pause] But generally, when the police arrest you there's probably a pretty good reason."


PRO TIP: Don't use that one when the case is a shareholder derivative action.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (8ZskC)

237
No you may not because you're an asshole and I'm jealous.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 03:15 PM (da5Wo)

**story time**

1989, Oklahoma City.  Walk in to a gun store and there's just racks and racks of M1s.  $150 each.  I was an E-3 and was looking for a pistol, so I just said to myself:  "Self?  What?!  Later.  Ok."

bloody hell.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (4Re4i)

238 >No you may not because you're an asshole and I'm jealous.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 03:15 PM (da5Wo)<



Come now BC.  Just shove a pic of your wife or any of her friends in my face and we'll be even.



bang.bang.bang.bang.bang.bang.bang.bang.TING!

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (sjdRT)

239 Counter ad:

Show footage of Garcia's ad saying he voted to let you keep your existing health care.  Then cue response:  "Joe Garcia says he voted to let you keep your existing health care.  Maybe he should have read the bill before he voted it into law.  Do you really want a Congressman who *thinks* he's voting for something but has no idea what he's really voting for?"

Posted by: SFGoth at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (iucOx)

240 46
omg, that video is comedy gold. "Attack ads by Tea Party billionaires like the Koch brothers can't tell the truth..." but Garcia "took the White House to task" for the botched web site.

I bet the White House felt very chastised when they were taken to task. A severe chiding will come next, and if you re-elect Garcia he will scold them. With a frowny face and a "wait til your father gets home" look.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 12, 2014 02:50 PM (A0sHn)


You forgot, "A strongly-worded letter." Throw in a strongly worded letter, and he's got my vote. Hell, that'll get him the European Union vote, too!

Posted by: chiefjaybob at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (SVgHb)

241 Aren't medical anthropologists hot Goth chicks or has TV lied to me... again???

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (/QAZd)

242 173 My understanding is that it is up to the judge. I guess I drew an asshole this time. Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 03:09 PM (T2V/1) ********* Oh shit. Just talked to someone about what to do to get out of jury duty and they said sometimes the Judge gets on to you and decides to-- "rehabilitate you--and you end up on there."

Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (RJMhd)

243 Kamil Stoch won gold.
5'8, 117 lbs.

117 lb grown man. 5'8!

See, fuckin bird people. Posted by: Flatbush Joe


For what?  Vomiting?

Posted by: Dang at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (MNq6o)

244 178 No. Our jury system is rigged. Most never serve. Those that do are called over and over again.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 03:11 PM (6bMeY)


The empanel juries here from the voter registration rolls only.  That is one reason why voting is such a small percentage.  My old home State uses a combination of voting lists, property taxes, and employment rolls.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 11:18 AM (T2V/1)

245 It would have been very interesting to see what would have happened if the Repub and conservative groups had coalesced into a temporary monolith to support Cruz. But no, we had to maintain the grand Rovian rolling surrender strategy!

I like Cruz a lot, but I'm not sure what a realistic victory condition in that situation was going to be.  It's not like you're going to steamroller SCOAMF and ValJar - they ain't moving, period, and they'll wedge Moochelle in the doorway if there's any problem.  I'm much more concerned that Boehner et al immediately gave up the sequester at the first opportunity.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2014 11:19 AM (B/VB5)

246 What kind of parent names their kid Nip Sip? Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 03:15 PM (/o+xv) Yeah, really.

Posted by: Two Dogs Fucking Smith at February 12, 2014 11:19 AM (0FSuD)

247 Are you a 5'10, 130 lb man? Congratulations! You have the imposing physique of an olympic caliber ski jumper. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 12, 2014 03:15 PM ....I had a buddy who was on a local ski jumping team. He talked me into trying it once. Let's just say the landing was a cross between the agony of defeat from wide world of sports and an intoxicated dodo bird landing. Not pretty. On a side note he was a pretty big guy but managed to do pretty well at it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 11:19 AM (/o+xv)

248

It appears this Rep was not in office when Obamacare was voted on. See #172.  So he couldn't have voted on it... Correct?

Posted by: Asking for a friend at February 12, 2014 11:19 AM (R5UOB)

249 The swelling gone down yet? My maroon bag of agony is shaping up nicely. Thanks for asking. ::: throat punch :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 12, 2014 11:20 AM (T83A+)

250 Peter Prevc came in 2nd. 5'10, 123 lb. No wonder he came up short. What a fatty! Enjoy your ski jumping silver medal, you Slovenian slob!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 12, 2014 11:20 AM (ZPrif)

251 210 In retrospect suggesting my department hire a medical anthropologist may have been a bad idea.

2 deep in the job talks and it's just progressivism turned up to 11.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 12, 2014 03:17 PM (U8W/7)

Dude!  Opportunity is where you find it.  Milk this!

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:20 AM (4Re4i)

252

A tea party candidate and an  establishment  candidate walk into a bar and order a beer.

 

The bartender says  to the TP candidate , " That will be five bucks" 

 

The bartender then gives the establishment candidate a  sly wink and says, " don't worry about it,  yours is on the house"

Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 11:20 AM (m2CN7)

253

>>No. Our jury system is rigged. Most never serve. Those that do are called over and over again.

.

.

.I got called once and didn't have to go because they had too many people that day.  The wife has been called twice and had to go both times.

Posted by: Registered Voter at February 12, 2014 11:20 AM (xqjwP)

254 I'm votin' for Joe Garcia because of the ice cream.

Posted by: liv voter at February 12, 2014 11:20 AM (/QAZd)

255 How many counts was Nagin found guilty of? (I know how many, I just like to hear someone else say it. Only one he wasn't found guilty of was, "What is your name?"

Posted by: rickb223 at February 12, 2014 11:20 AM (qc7at)

256 >>To be clear here, I'm not the one disputing that, JackStraw is. McCain and Romney both made serious unforced errors in the general on things that weren't at issue in the primary. No I'm not. Reading seems to be a problem on this blog lately. You said they ran equally crap campaigns to Perry and Fred. And I said they weren't remotely equally crappy. McCain and Romney won the Republican nomination, Perry and Fred came in pretty much dead last in the nomination processes. By definition these are not equal. McCain, whom I detest, and Romney, whom I do not, both won their races fair and square. I just get tired of the establishment boogieman being used as an excuse anytime a favored candidate loses.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 11:21 AM (g1DWB)

257 I'm voting for Joe Garcia 'cause I love the Grateful Dead, man!

Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 11:21 AM (MMC8r)

258 Come now BC. Just shove a pic of your wife or any of her friends in my face and we'll be even. bang.bang.bang.bang.bang.bang.bang.bang.TING! Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 03:18 PM (sjdRT) Hahaha. Fair enough. I'll just pass this story along. I texted the wife earlier that "I've got the dvd of 'We're the Millers' to watch. You know? The one with Jennifer Anniston as a stripper?" Instant response...."SWEET!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 11:21 AM (da5Wo)

259 Dude! Opportunity is where you find it. Milk this! Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 03:20 PM (4Re4i) I'm outgunned and only half paid attention. I'd be going off half cocked.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at February 12, 2014 11:21 AM (U8W/7)

260 Posted by: Mr Nip Sip IV of London, England at February 12, 2014 03:17 PM (/QAZd) Ha Ha. Son really is a IV. When did you move to London asshole and not tell dad?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 11:22 AM (0FSuD)

261 138 Vic, call the registrar and ask if you can bring your "Jury Nullification Handbook".

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 03:05 PM (o3MSL)


I told the judge I believed in jury nullification last time.  The questionnaire now has a statement for that on it that you have to sign under penalty of perjury.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 11:22 AM (T2V/1)

262 >1989, Oklahoma City. Walk in to a gun store and there's just racks and racks of M1s. $150 each. I was an E-3 and was looking for a pistol, so I just said to myself: "Self? What?! Later. Ok."

bloody hell.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 03:18 PM (4Re4i)<



Go look at CMP.  They are out of most Garands.  I think I got one of the last service grade SA models.  All that is left in service grade are the Harringtons.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 11:23 AM (sjdRT)

263 Anders Bardal came in 3rd in ski jumping. 6'1, 132 lbs. Bardal's nickname is, of course, Gigantor, The Norwegian Hulk Beast!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 12, 2014 11:23 AM (ZPrif)

264 "Self? What?! Later. Ok." I do not understand this conversation.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 11:23 AM (o4Xc4)

265 192  Min or max?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 03:14 PM (o3MSL)



At age 70 you can opt out by request.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 11:23 AM (T2V/1)

266 225 178
No. Our jury system is rigged. Most never serve. Those that do are called over and over again.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 03:11 PM (6bMeY)

You can only be called once per year in our county.  I do it because, well (and don't laugh, fkr) it's my civic duty.  I really do see it that way.

Is it boring?  sometimes.  But I catch up on some reading.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:23 AM (4Re4i)

267 I voted for ice cream.  Huh,  looks like pickles.

Joe Garcia: Intentions

Posted by: Joe Garcia at February 12, 2014 11:23 AM (MNq6o)

268 My electoral advice going forward. Listen to Rove. Then do the exact opposite of his advice.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 11:24 AM (/o+xv)

269 >Instant response...."SWEET!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 12, 2014 03:21 PM (da5Wo) <



Yep, that one left a mark.  Nice work.  Dick.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 12, 2014 11:24 AM (sjdRT)

270 When did you move to London asshole and not tell dad?
Daddy? But mumsy told me you died during the Blitz!

Posted by: Mr Nip Sip IV of London, England at February 12, 2014 11:24 AM (/QAZd)

271 "This *may* be something only Senators can promise, but I think Reps can, too"
He's a politician, he can PROMISE anything he wants.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2014 11:24 AM (zfY+H)

272 I like this!!

"Country music singer Gretchen Wilson sang at SeaWorld in Orlando, Fla., on Saturday, and she responded to backlash from animal rights activists on Twitter with a Tweet of her own: “Wouldn’t it be nice if this much effort could go into saving unborn babies?”

Posted by: Lizzy at February 12, 2014 11:25 AM (POpqt)

273 Oh shit, thread gets to 250 and BAM! It turns into a gun thread. How do it know?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 12, 2014 11:25 AM (0FSuD)

274 oh Yeah new post.

Posted by: willow at February 12, 2014 11:25 AM (nqBYe)

275 Trying not to see any Olympic results as it kind of kills the excitement watching something you know he result of.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 11:25 AM (/o+xv)

276

Ian S.

 

Every objective measure showed the democrats were getting a much huger share of the blame than the GOP.  In 1995, GOP was blamed by more than 20 points and in the next election we picked up 2 Senate seats and lost a House seat.

 

Here, they were throwing barriers up in dying WWII vets faces, to a concrete OUTDOOR memorial, their memorial!!  Reid was caught saying he didn't give a shit about kids with cancer.   GOP had passed separate bills to fund EVERYTHING except obamacare.   College kids in frigging Boulder were blaming dems by a wide margin.

 

Eventually, if we had stuck with it, the Prez would have caved on something.  His position was entirely unreasonable.  No past Prez had ever acted like that.  It was the perfect set up.

 

But no.  The day we start to fight, stupid fucks like McCain are calling Cruz and others whacko birds and out come the knives, FROM OUR OWN SIDE.

 

Brilliant moves guys.  Brilliant.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 12, 2014 11:25 AM (tVTLU)

277 Who cares when...SHOCK! From the Olympics! Brian Boitano is gay!!!

Posted by: Guido at February 12, 2014 11:26 AM (HsovQ)

278 Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2014 03:19 PM (B/VB5)


Boehner is another problem.  But regarding a Cruz win or lose, you have to start somewhere if you have any principles to demonstrate that you do indeed have principles.

Good line today from a Chris Plante caller (paraphrased):

Either you have principles that can win elections, in which case you need to demonstrate them; or your principles can't ever win elections and we are all screwed.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 11:26 AM (o3MSL)

279 I voted that you were the pretties girl in the whole class... *unzips pants*

Posted by: Joe Garcia at February 12, 2014 11:26 AM (MNq6o)

280 A Photo ID is required to enter the courthouse. You are not allowed to bring cell phones, liquids, gels, laptops, electronic devices, iPads, e-books, recording devices, cameras, lighters, matches, or any objects that may activate the metal detectors into the courthouse. All visitors are prohibited from bringing liquids into the courthouse. Reading material is NOT allowed in the courtroom. Vic I think you could still bring a folio book to read in the Jury Assembly room but not in the actual courtroom. Or you could tell the marshals that these rules make you more sympathetic to the criminal defendants since it is a taste of prison life.

Posted by: tmitsss at February 12, 2014 11:27 AM (Pa9vP)

281 >>Who cares when...SHOCK! From the Olympics! Brian Boitano is gay!!

Whaaaa?
Next you're going to tell me that Johnny Weir is gay.
Just don't. It might ruin the Olympics for me.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 12, 2014 11:28 AM (POpqt)

282 The questionnaire now has a statement for that on it that you have to sign under penalty of perjury.

Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 03:22 PM (T2V/1)


Good thing jury deliberations are now monitored for potential juror perjury charges!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 12, 2014 11:29 AM (o3MSL)

283

1989, Oklahoma City. Walk in to a gun store and
there's just racks and racks of M1s. $150 each. I was an E-3 and was
looking for a pistol, so I just said to myself: "Self? What?! Later.
Ok."

bloody hell.


Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 03:18 PM (4Re4i)<

 

 

------------------------------------------------------

 

 

1963 --  Popular Mechanics.  M1 Garand,  brand new, still wrapped:  $55.

Posted by: Soona at February 12, 2014 11:29 AM (5XB5E)

284 261 A Photo ID is required to enter the courthouse. You are not allowed to bring cell phones, liquids, gels, laptops, electronic devices, iPads, e-books, recording devices, cameras, lighters, matches, or any objects that may activate the metal detectors into the courthouse.

All visitors are prohibited from bringing liquids into the courthouse.



Posted by: tmitsss at February 12, 2014 03:27 PM (Pa9vP)

Geezus!  Do they sweep the streets for IEDs where you live?


Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:30 AM (4Re4i)

285 263 The questionnaire now has a statement for that on it that you have to sign under penalty of perjury.


Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 03:22 PM (T2V/1)

Oh that makes perfect se...

wait.  what?

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:31 AM (4Re4i)

286 266 263
The questionnaire now has a statement for that on it that you have to sign under penalty of perjury.




Posted by: Vic at February 12, 2014 03:22 PM (T2V/1)


Ok.  That's where I'd go 5th and refuse to sign.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 11:32 AM (4Re4i)

287 209 Kamil Stoch won gold. 5'8, 117 lbs. 117 lb grown man. 5'8! See, fuckin bird people. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 12, 2014 03:17 PM (ZPrif) --------------------- I don't like his plumage, I can tell you that. His pants are practically pink. Why can't someone fly out there with a black helmet, black outfit, and black skis --- like a raven?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 12, 2014 11:32 AM (dfYL9)

288

We really need an American worker/populist/nationalist uprising in this country.

 

Nazionalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.  It's been tried.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 12, 2014 11:33 AM (A0sHn)

289 You said they ran equally crap campaigns to Perry and Fred. And I said they weren't remotely equally crappy. McCain and Romney won the Republican nomination, Perry and Fred came in pretty much dead last in the nomination processes. By definition these are not equal.

Only if you completely lack nuance.  I think everyone here realizes that primary campaigns aren't general campaigns.  Perry in particular ran a pretty much textbook-perfect campaign, it was the candidate himself who killed the whole thing.  Thompson I'm not sure *had* a campaign, which was kind of the problem.

And in both cases, the winner of the primary went on to run a notably bad campaign.  McCain's we all knew it was a clusterfuck as it was happening, Romney's I think most of us were IVing the Kool-Aid until election night.

I just get tired of the establishment boogieman being used as an excuse anytime a favored candidate loses.

I'm not making that excuse, I'm just saying that being establishment doesn't automatically confer the ability to run a great campaign and win elections.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2014 11:33 AM (B/VB5)

290 267  Ok. That's where I'd go 5th and refuse to sign.

Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 03:32 PM (4Re4i)


They have a nice warning about a $2,000 fine for failure to complete the form or to avoid jury duty.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 11:35 AM (T2V/1)

291 Why did you vote for a broken law? Did you not read it? 'Pass it to find out what's in it' is not the American way douchebag.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 12, 2014 12:03 PM (9Bdcz)

292 Damn kind of him voting to let me keep my healthcare plan.

Posted by: Kind of Fascist That Is at February 12, 2014 12:12 PM (nbGZj)

293 He seems qualified. Politics at its best, voting for crap bills they do not read then tell us they are diligently fixing the thing.

Posted by: elrobalo at February 12, 2014 01:56 PM (wH5Tk)

294 Running on Obama theorem. Powerful forces have conspired to relieve you of your healthcare plan. Obama and I had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: james at February 12, 2014 08:12 PM (1PqiV)

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