February 27, 2014

Democratic Congressional Candidate Alex Sink: Without Amnesty, "[W]here are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?"
— Ace

Perfect.

Over at Slate, Dave Weigel, of course, doesn't understand the phony, ginned-up outrage. Why it's all just so silly! Republicans have "created" a "gaffe" where none existed!

The Creation of a Gaffe

By Dave Weigel

...

I was sitting next to a Jolly supporter who muttered loudly when Sink answered anything, so I heard a tongue-cluck when she said that. In the larger room, it generated some "huhs," but no follow-ups. After the debate, in their media interviews, neither candidate was asked about Sink's answer.

But a tracker posted the video of that answer. Cue outrage.

So far Weigel's proof that this is not a story is that a room full of progressive, media-voting Democrats merely "clucked" at it, and, get this, asked Sink no follow-ups about it.

Weigel's proof that the media is not biased in failing to ask Democrats about their own racial faux pas is that the media doesn't ask Democrats about their own racial faux pas.

Well I'm convinced.

I'm not sure whether there's a term for this—maybe it's Reductum ad Republicum. In lieu of an argument for why Sink was racist to point out that undocumented immigrants are currently employed as landscapers or hotel workers, they argue that a Republican couldn't say it. But Marco Rubio says it.

Marco Rubio is Latin himself, Dave. Are you playing dumb? Note that Barack Obama called himself a "mongrel," and that was taken as different from Ted Nugent calling him a "mongrel."

I agree with that distinction. So, of course, does Dave. But he pretends he's not aware of it when he needs to defend a Democrat.

By the way, he also goes on to submit that "context" of the whole quote saves Sink. This will be important later.


UPDATE: This post was written in a hurry as I went to catch a plane. Only later did I check my tape of the debate and remember Sink's full answer. After the "hotels" line, Sink praised Marco Rubio's work on the immigration bill, then said this:

For every example that you hear, I think about the high school valedictorian -- I believe he lives in this district now. He was brought here when he was a young man, nine or ten years old. He didnÂ’t choose to come here. His parents brought him. He was undocumented. And what does he do? How does he get an education? He did everything right. He became an incredible student. He even eventually ended up going to law school and becoming a lawyer. But right now he can't practice law because of his undocumented status. ThatÂ’s not right.

Funny. The tracker didn't include those lines. The conservatives who hectored the media for not covering Sink the way they'd cover a Republican didn't seek out the lines.

Let's be frank about what's going on here: The media believes Republicans are racist. Therefore, any statement about race is taken as confirmation of that pre-existing thesis.

The media believes Democrats -- the party they vote for in each and every election, and the party they fight to elect each cycle in their news coverage/political public relations efforts -- are not racist, and therefore they say "How silly" when conservatives note that Democrats, too, make clumsy remarks when discussing race.

Need I remind either of these fine gentlemen that Rick Perry's renting of a property which once had a rock upon which was written a racial slur (a slur, by the way, Perry painted over), was in fact a major deal in the news media and proof of his hostility towards blacks?

We point out that "Democrats say these things too" for a simple reason: Because they do. And such statements, from Republicans, are the media's case-in-chief of Republican racism.

Now, their actual case relies upon what they think they "know," in background: Republicans are racists, all of them, except for the ones who are liberal, like Jon Huntsman. But they can't report "things they know on a gut level," so they take the statements as their evidence.

And when a Democrat like Sink says something which would be used as proof of racism had a Republican said it, they say: "This is no evidence at all."

Well. I want that same "This is no evidence at all" standard applied to Republicans as well.

The media can believe that Republicans are all racist woman-haters if they want. But they cannot assign different standards to the same sorts of "evidence" for this, depending on whether the speaker is a Democrat or a Republican.

They can't have it both ways, but of course they insist on just that. They want to be free to take vague, ticky-tack, minor statements by Republicans as proof of racism, but the same type of Democrats are merely "clumsy" or "politically dumb" but otherwise no proof of anything at all.

Democrats, to the media, are Just Like Us; Republicans are Not Like Us. And it's easy to demonize the Other, and that's why the media does it: Because it's easy, and they don't work -- or think -- particularly hard.

Meanwhile, Democrats are, by their own confession, ginning up the "War on Women" messaging machine that worked in 2012, and which the media did its level best to make work in 2012.

Will Dave Weigel point out how silly all this is? Or will he gladly join in the Outrage Hunting?

Well, let's check the previous record: Did Weigel poo-poo ginned up Outrage!!! over Mike Huckabee's clumsy (but merely that) comments about birth control?

Dave Weigel's headline:

Mike Huckabee: Democrats Want Women to Think "They Can't Control Their Libido"

Here's what Weigel goes on to say:

Reporters were a little rattled by the line, but Huckabee's used it before—he used it on the latest episode of his Sunday show.

....

So it's a crowd-pleaser, if only to a select audience.

UPDATE: Conservatives have responded to the quote -- well, more accurately, responded to liberals responding to the quote -- by insisting that the media ran it without context. Mea culpa/humblebrag: I was in the room at the time, filing quickly, but preferring not to stop my tape and transcribe the entire line. Here it is now:

I take that as an admission that of course he did not transcribe the entire line before dashing off his hot headline.

And of course that's true; he only gets to actually transcribing it in this update.

The conservative objection is that this full quote is not nearly as dismissive-sounding as the short, Twitter-sized version. That's arguable -- Huckabee's point remains that Democrats are calling women promiscuous and trying to buy them off with birth control. If Democrats want to object to that, they can.

"That's arguable." Weigel buys into the Democrats' interpretation, and does not knock it down, nor call it silly, nor imply, as he did with Sink, that a "gaffe" was "created" by an antagonistic partisan media.

Note that Weigel snidely says "Funny" when he notes that Republicans did not include the "full context" of Sink's remark -- and yet has nothing but excuses when he, and the rest of the Democratic media, failed to quote the full context of Huckabee's remark.

Why, context is sometimes good and sometimes important, and sometimes, when the Democrat media is preparing an attack line, just isn't.

This is the same sort of "rescuing" context-- Sink said something later in the speech praising Latinos (asserting they could be more than landscapers and maids). This is proof of her non-racist intent.

But when Huckabee makes a fulsome statement about women being more than, as Democrats seem to believe, baby-makin' machines, with a lot more interest in politics than crude Gimme Gimme buy-offs, Dave's not quite so certain this helps Huckabee at all.

Why the differing standards on ginned up Fauxtrage, Dave?

Ah, don't answer that. I know the answer. So do you. So does everybody.

Oh: Dave very much wants you to know that only a Republican-paid media tracker reported this line, and that the entirety of the Democrat media present in the room refused to do so.

He says this as if this proves the fact that the line was not objectionable.

I rather take it to prove that the media will consistently and deliberately refuse to report gaffes by Democrats -- even gaffes that Weigel admits rouse a few "huhs" and tongue-clucks from reporters who are present.

A "huh" and a tongue-cluck does not indicate that this is the biggest story-- but it does indicate the media registered it as a story.

And yet every single one of them apparently refused to report it all, leaving it to this damned "tracker" to report.

Weigel thinks this saves him?

Because I think it hangs him.

Posted by: Ace at 06:53 AM | Comments (356)
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1 I'd suggest hiring American citizens at some local manual labor employment service.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 27, 2014 06:55 AM (c6N69)

2 But I suppose that doesn't create a bunch of new Democrat entitlement voting plantation slaves.

Posted by: Kristophr at February 27, 2014 06:55 AM (c6N69)

3 Dave Weigel seems like a sad, strange little man. But he doesn't have my pity.

Posted by: Buzz Lightyear at February 27, 2014 06:57 AM (Aif/5)

4 Context is a disposable commodity.

Posted by: profligatewaste at February 27, 2014 06:57 AM (R3JkO)

5 >> Are you playing dumb? I have seen nothing out of Weigel to indicate that his dumbness is anything other than genuine.

Posted by: Andy at February 27, 2014 06:57 AM (nuImW)

6 My post from yesterday.


Where is the racism outcry? FL Democrat says who will we get to do our lawns and clean motel rooms if we don't pass the amnesty bill. Well scrunt, all those 30 million illegals are not going to quit doing those things if the bill doesn't pass. In fact, more than likely they will quit doing them if it passes.


This is the MFM reaction I fully expected.  Yet we have a Republican use a non-word in VA and they raise hell about it for a month.


And the MFM says they are not biased.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 06:57 AM (T2V/1)

7 The only thing democrats care about with minorities, and illegals, is getting their vote to stay in power. And the longer they stay in the "underclass" the longer they can buy, bribe or steal their votes. Capeech

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 06:58 AM (t3UFN)

8 Without Amnesty, "[W]here are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?" Easy. Cut welfare and food stamps.

Posted by: rickl at February 27, 2014 06:58 AM (zoehZ)

9 Summary of the summary time?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 06:59 AM (xZxMD)

10 Ever notice how many media folks are in sore need of a beating?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 06:59 AM (naUcP)

11 Forget it Jake, it's Weigeltown.

Posted by: Turnip Defense League [/i] at February 27, 2014 07:00 AM (O7Q1u)

12 White men can't mow?

Posted by: Beagle at February 27, 2014 07:00 AM (sOtz/)

13 You can trick Wiegel and any other Lefty by providing them quotes from 'Republicans' and have them go off on a rant and after they are finished, politely advise them you made a mistake and those were Democrat quotes.

Posted by: Wayne Storm at February 27, 2014 07:00 AM (DAevm)

14 Fuckin' Weigel. heh Punching down again ace?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:00 AM (gBnkX)

15 Here's where the right can play the left's game: Just keep hammering this. Make them defend. We're still taking the high road, using the truth, arguing from the intellectually defensible high ground and preventing them from going on offense. When they try to redirect, snap the conversation right back to this nonsense.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:01 AM (gBnkX)

16 My mother was a real liberal. She was the first one on our block to have a black maid

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 07:02 AM (t3UFN)

17
"[W]here are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?"




Might, I say, might I make a suggestion? Recommendation that is.

Senator-Kleagle Robert Byrd

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 27, 2014 07:02 AM (kdS6q)

18 >>Republicans are racists, all of them, except for the ones who are liberal, like Jon Huntsman

Unless, of course, Jon Huntsman ever secures a presidential nomination.  Then, he will become a bloodsucking racist.

Remember these pictures:  http://tinyurl.com/jvwrl37

Posted by: dan-O at February 27, 2014 07:02 AM (D0bIN)

19 I honestly don't understand how the liberal media doesn't see this. I mean I assume Weigal is arrogant enough to have one of those Google alerts on his name so he has probably read what you wrote, how does he entirely fail to see this problem?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 27, 2014 07:02 AM (RZ8pf)

20 O/T

Remember us kidding with AtC, and the other Ette's about bringing the laptop into the shower?

Yeh, about that...

http://tinyurl.com/pmb4l6j

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 27, 2014 07:03 AM (DPkKe)

21 The same double standard every time.It's very difficult to overcome.

Posted by: steevy at February 27, 2014 07:03 AM (zqvg6)

22 11 million illegal immigrants? oh, god no. that's a complete fabrication. if there is 100,000 I'd be shocked

Posted by: harried reid at February 27, 2014 07:03 AM (en1G6)

23 Rep Sink spews the "mecacca"

Posted by: Frank Underwood at February 27, 2014 07:03 AM (e8kgV)

24 It's not a gaffe. That's really what Democrats (and many pro-amnesty Republicans) believe. They want their domestic labor at slave wages.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 27, 2014 07:03 AM (T0NGe)

25

"[W]here are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?"

 

The welfare rolls?

Posted by: --- at February 27, 2014 07:04 AM (MMC8r)

26 My takeaway from all this? I think that women could control their libidos better if they cut the grass for their man.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 27, 2014 07:04 AM (CnA98)

27 Imagine if we had a Republican President ...

EPA employees threatened Inspector General investigators, refused to cooperate, and handed out non-disclosure agreements to other employees to keep them from being interviewed, EPA Inspector General Arthur Elkins Jr. wrote in response to a request for information by Vitter on the case.

“Over the past 12 months, there have been several EPA officials who have taken action to prevent [the Office of Investigations] OI from conducting investigations or have attempted to obstruct investigations through intimidation,” Elkins wrote.

John Beale pleaded guilty in September 2013 to time card and travel fraud spanning two decades and amounting to nearly $900,000 in taxpayer dollars. Beale also spent a total of two and a half years absent from work, claiming he was away on CIA business. He was sentenced to 32 months in prison in December 2013.

After closing its criminal investigation, the Inspector General began an audit of the lack of internal controls that allowed Beale to defraud the agency. That audit has implicated a growing number of EPA officials.

Posted by: Frank Underwood at February 27, 2014 07:05 AM (e8kgV)

28 My outrage-o-meter is stuck on "overloaded-no more data accepted."

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 07:05 AM (7ObY1)

29 I have seen nothing out of Weigel to indicate that his dumbness is anything other than genuine.

Yeah, Weigel's been dumb as long as I've been paying attention.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 07:05 AM (B/VB5)

30 And the only solution to this is the one we always come back to -- kill the Beast. As much as possible, starve the liberal media of money and attention while, at the same time, building up conservative media. Tear down leftist media while building up alt-right might. The Left will never change. We won't be able to shame them into changing.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:05 AM (ZPrif)

31

Meanwhile, Democrats are, by their own confession, ginning up the "War on Women" messaging machine that worked in 2012, and which the media did its level best to make work in 2012.

 

 

Oh GOOD.  Another chance for ass-brained fucking vaginalogues to shriek their Harpy hearts out while stupid cows who can't think for themselves dumbly follow along, retweeting about their "lady parts."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:05 AM (4df7R)

32 Is this more wishful thinking that folks like Wiegel (ie. scummy leftists) will see the light and actually be truthful. Kind of like the wishful thinking that homosexual activists will respect the religious beliefs of others despite every indication that they won't.

Posted by: ejo at February 27, 2014 07:06 AM (GXvSO)

33 Weigel's proof that the media is not biased in failing to ask Democrats about their own racial faux pas is that the media doesn't ask Democrats about their own racial faux pas. And that right there is all we need to know. The science is settled.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 07:06 AM (ELs9k)

34

Dave Weigel is an idiot.

At best....

Posted by: backhoe at February 27, 2014 07:06 AM (ULH4o)

35 They want their domestic labor at slave wages.

And black Americans unemployed.

Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 07:06 AM (ZKzrr)

36 And Biden has, once again, taken himself out of context.

http://goo.gl/HbJYVm

Posted by: irright at February 27, 2014 07:06 AM (pMGkg)

37 I think it's a darn shame the rancorous GOP insists that there is bias and double standards. Look in the spirit of optamism and bi-partisanship we have to pass Scumer Immigration Reform and show we're not insensitive. //Sven McCain

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 07:06 AM (TE35l)

38 Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 27, 2014 11:02 AM (RZ8pf) Assumes intellectual honesty not in evidence.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:06 AM (gBnkX)

39 Oh GOOD. Another chance for ass-brained fucking vaginalogues to shriek their Harpy hearts out while stupid cows who can't think for themselves dumbly follow along, retweeting about their "lady parts."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 27, 2014 11:05 AM (4df7R)

 

*swoon*

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 07:06 AM (DrWcr)

40 Well, let's check the previous record: Did Weigel poo-poo ginned up Outrage!!! over Mike Huckabee's clumsy (but merely that) comments about birth control? -------------------- Why would he? Most of the outrage at Huckabee's comments that I saw was coming from here.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2014 07:06 AM (CJjw5)

41 "[W]here are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?" I hear that black unemployment is sky high. I bet he would not be able to say Blacks could clean our hotel rooms and do our landscaping.

Posted by: Wayne Storm at February 27, 2014 07:07 AM (DAevm)

42 They want their domestic labor at slave wages.

And black Americans unemployed.

Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 11:06 AM (ZKzrr)

 

It's RAAAAAACISM all the way down. 

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 07:07 AM (DrWcr)

43 Yeh, about that...

So MI6 has nekkid pictures of 'Ettes?  That sound you hear is Moron Nation furiously trying to find a tuxedo and an Aston Martin.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 07:07 AM (B/VB5)

44 The MFM are bunch of lying sociopaths? A bit "dog bites man" there, isn't it?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 27, 2014 07:07 AM (+5bkH)

45 Ever notice how many media folks are in sore need of a beating?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 10:59 AM (naUcP)


You too?

Posted by: EC at February 27, 2014 07:07 AM (GQ8sn)

46

Weigel's proof that the media is not biased in failing to ask Democrats about their own racial faux pas is that the media doesn't ask Democrats about their own racial faux pas.

 

 

This is the same reason why   it's okay for the DOJ to investigate wrongdoing at the DOJ, the NSA to investigate the claims of NSA whistleblowers, and the White House to investigate itself.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:07 AM (4df7R)

47

They KNOW about their bias.  They just don't care.  They control the airwaves, and therefore the agenda.  'Media bias' just doesn't make the cut. 

 

That is not a changeable condition.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 27, 2014 07:07 AM (fwARV)

48 I just got a whole "Alice In Wonderland" vibe from this post. Like that time Alice said to that other character about things being rather not at all like they seem, something, something... I'll go look it up.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 27, 2014 07:07 AM (g4TxM)

49 I want that same "This is no evidence at all" standard applied to Republicans as well. Then you'll need your own soldiers. The media are not on our side, nor should they be expected to be- they fight for the enemy.

Posted by: t-bird at February 27, 2014 07:08 AM (FcR7P)

50 I hear that black unemployment is sky high. I bet he would not be able to say Blacks could clean our hotel rooms and do our landscaping.

Posted by: Wayne Storm at February 27, 2014 11:07 AM (DAevm)

 

Trust them to clean hotel rooms?  They'd be stealing things left and right!

Posted by: Alex Sink at February 27, 2014 07:08 AM (DrWcr)

51 And I denounce myself, but how come it's "racist" to suggest funemployed urban-Americans who wish to better their lives should consider moving out to the rural areas to take jobs, but it's not racist to expect non-Americans to travel thousands of miles to take those jobs?

Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 07:08 AM (ZKzrr)

52 "[W]here are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?" Home Depot. As usual.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 07:08 AM (xZxMD)

53 The easy way to figure out if you're in the wrong or not is to reverse the situation. If you'd say it was ok when your side does it, then perhaps it is ok when the other side does it. This works for sports, too.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 27, 2014 07:09 AM (1hM1d)

54 That sound you hear is Moron Nation furiously trying to find a tuxedo and an Aston Martin.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 11:07 AM (B/VB5)

 

I have both.  Suck it, proles.

Posted by: Piers Morgan at February 27, 2014 07:09 AM (DrWcr)

55 I've got a sneaking suspicion @32 is going to get a full broadside in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:09 AM (gBnkX)

56 8 Without Amnesty, "[W]here are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?" Easy. Cut welfare and food stamps. --- Other possibilities- 1. Deport people so that youth unemployment goes down from about 50-60% in some groups 2. Lower the minimum wage so that more people can be hired instead of businesses doing more with fewer people. 3. Relax the ObamaCare laws on headcount and hours so that businesses will hire more instead of pulling back from the threshold that forces expensive changes on them.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 27, 2014 07:09 AM (/Crba)

57

They want their domestic labor at slave wages.And black Americans unemployed.
Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 11:06 AM (ZKzrr)

 

They want ALL Americans unemployed,    but   especially black Americans,   because then they can convince the black Americans that they're unemployed because of Republicans.

 

I said it yesterday and I'll say it again today:   the racism and inurement to what is essentially slavery that festers on the left is mindboggling.   It's also   enough to sicken anyone who recognizes     such things for what they are.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:09 AM (4df7R)

58 "[W]here are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?"


Home Depot. As usual.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 11:08 AM (xZxMD)

 

And write eses.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 07:09 AM (DrWcr)

59 Most of the outrage at Huckabee's comments that I saw was coming from here.

"Huckabee wasn't wrong, but he shouldn't have said anything in the first place because the media lied about what he said" wasn't one of the better days around here.


It's National Chili Day today, if anyone wants to start a good tomatoes/beans flame war.

Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 07:10 AM (ZKzrr)

60 51 And I denounce myself, but how come it's "racist" to suggest funemployed urban-Americans who wish to better their lives should consider moving out to the rural areas to take jobs, but it's not racist to expect non-Americans to travel thousands of miles to take those jobs? --- Because "shut up". Seriously, though, it's because they don't want to deplete their voter base in the cities but, instead, want to create a new underclass in red country who will turn those areas purple thanks to vote fraud.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 27, 2014 07:10 AM (/Crba)

61 That's in Russia, just 20 miles east of the border with Ukraine. KyivPost ‏@KyivPost Ousted President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych will hold press conference on Friday in Rostov-on-Don, reports @ria_novosti, citing source.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:10 AM (ZPrif)

62 Some enterprising group of individuals could, if they chose to, make some political points concerning this issue. And possibly, if they were to engage it, win an election or two. If they chose to...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 07:10 AM (0HooB)

63 It appears that after a year of so of trying to be an old-school journalist, Weigel misses getting the weekly handjobs from his friends in the juice-box mafia at JournoList

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at February 27, 2014 07:10 AM (Q6pxP)

64 Ace loves him some double standards. A chance to type and seem reasonable at the same time.

Posted by: nip at February 27, 2014 07:10 AM (SxlUl)

65 58 "[W]here are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?" Home Depot. As usual. Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 11:08 AM (xZxMD) And write eses. --- Dammit, I said *ESSAYS*!

Posted by: Stan Marsh at February 27, 2014 07:11 AM (/Crba)

66 Media figures have no professional ramifications of their duplicitous actions. Until this changes, until they are held to standards and are suffer (professionally of course) for failing to meet said standards this will not end.

Posted by: nuke it from orbit at February 27, 2014 07:12 AM (dpccS)

67 So basically, Dimmis are saying they prefer their household chores be performed by someone with Spanglish language skills rather than those of an Ebonics aficionado? I guess, "Si, senora." is preferable to "Yo Mama, you honky bitch!"

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at February 27, 2014 07:13 AM (swQT/)

68 "Huckabee wasn't wrong, but he shouldn't have said anything in the first place because the media lied about what he said" wasn't one of the better days around here. It was one of the look-at-the-monitor-like-this O_o days.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:13 AM (gBnkX)

69 This is why the media, someway somehow, MUST be destroyed. They are nothing but confidence men; conspirators in the Democrat ploy to lie, trick and deceive the public. They make me sick.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 07:13 AM (A9hpr)

70 Crimea just dissolved it's govt. The Interpreter ‏@Interpreter_Mag Ukraine Liveblog: Crimean parliament dissolves local cabinet, will vote for autonomy on May 25 http://bit.ly/1eAnekb At an extraordinary plenary session on Thursday, the Supreme Council of Crimea passed a motion of no confidence in the Council of Ministers of Crimea and terminated its powers, a spokesperson for the secretariat of the Crimean parliament Olha Sulnikova said. According to her, this decision was supported by 55 of the 64 members of the Crimean parliament. According to the adopted resolution, the Supreme Council of Crimea declared the work of the Council of Ministers of Crimea in 2013 unsatisfactory and therefore passed a motion of no-confidence in the Crimean government. Under the same decision, the Crimean parliament terminated the powers of the Council of Ministers of Crimea. In addition, the parliament dismissed Anatoliy Mohyliov as the chairman of the Crimean Council of Ministers pursuant to Article 136 of the Constitution of Ukraine. The document takes effect on the day on which it is passed.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:15 AM (ZPrif)

71 My takeaway from this is that Weigel is an ignorant cocksucker; is that an accurate summary?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 07:15 AM (FQEMb)

72 Another chance for ass-brained fucking vaginalogues to shriek their Harpy hearts out while stupid cows who can't think for themselves dumbly follow along, retweeting about their "lady parts."

On the plus side, said pro-abortion vaginalogues now are repeatedly getting in trouble with the left's new pet cause, the tranny lobby.  Because implying that vaginas only belong to people who identify as female and have sex with people with working male parts is exclusionary.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 07:15 AM (B/VB5)

73 Conservatives are 90% plus coherent in a worldview. The other side...maybe 25%.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2014 07:15 AM (0Ng0w)

74 Everything has a reason, from what Yanko will say tomorrow to even his making the announcement that he'll speak tomorrow. Trying to drive action somehow. Parts are moving, Ukrainians are probably not sleeping too soundly these days.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 07:15 AM (ZshNr)

75 And I denounce myself, but how come it's "racist" to suggest funemployed urban-Americans who wish to better their lives should consider moving out to the rural areas to take jobs What kind of jobs, Heather? PICKING COTTON, perhaps? Report for cleansing at once.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2014 07:15 AM (CJjw5)

76 "At an extraordinary plenary session on Thursday, the Supreme Council of Crimea passed a motion of no confidence in the Council of Ministers of Crimea and terminated its powers, a spokesperson for the secretariat of the Crimean parliament Olha Sulnikova said."

And, so it begins

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 27, 2014 07:16 AM (DPkKe)

77 Well then... Amnesty it is!  Drinks all around.


Not the landscapers.


Or the maids.   Not any of them.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 27, 2014 07:16 AM (BZAd3)

78 Double standard. Harry Reid has been saying that most ridiculous dumb ass retarded shit on the Senate floor over the last two day that had a (R) said it, it would be the lead in every news report and paper in America.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 27, 2014 07:16 AM (IV4od)

79 Maybe it was this one: “Be what you would seem to be- or, if you'd like it put more simply- Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.” - Lewis Carroll, Alice In Wonderland

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 27, 2014 07:16 AM (g4TxM)

80

So basically, Dimmis are saying they prefer their household chores be performed by someone with Spanglish language skills rather than those of an Ebonics aficionado?

 

 

They also want people they can abuse, mistreat and otherwise denigrate who    fear   seeking  justice because of their illegal status.   See, you can get away with paying slave wages to an illegal Hispanic or Chinese or Filipino maid because they don't want to get deported, so they won't go to any kind of legal authority   for recourse.   Not so with a legal    resident   who knows enough to be able to say, "Minimum wage, motherfucker, do you speak it?"

 

Of course, with the way ICE treats most illegal alien issues these days,   that fear of deportation    is     essentially a paper tiger.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:16 AM (4df7R)

81 To the leftist mind, lying in the name of the cause is not a sin, it's a virtue.  The ends justify the means.  That they can't see that this path ends in mass graves shows how morally stunted they are.

God help us all.

Posted by: Turnip Defense League [/i] at February 27, 2014 07:16 AM (O7Q1u)

82 Ukraine Liveblog: Crimean parliament dissolves local cabinet, will vote for autonomy on May 25 http://bit.ly/1eAnekb Wait, what? Autonomy from whom? Somebody put me some knowledge here, I be confuzzled...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 07:16 AM (naUcP)

83 70 If they only lost the detached Crimea I think the Ukrainians would be okay with that.The Russians may be content with that,at least for now,their economy isn't exactly roaring.

Posted by: steevy at February 27, 2014 07:17 AM (zqvg6)

84 Report for cleansing at once.

Is the Zyklon B fair trade? 

Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 07:17 AM (ZKzrr)

85

I guess, "Si, senora." is preferable to "Yo Mama, you honky bitch!"

 

I'm going to be "that guy" this time.  There is a fair amount of casual racism around here.  Has an actual black person used the word 'honky' anywhere since the 1970s?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 27, 2014 07:17 AM (A0sHn)

86 Crimea just dissolved it's govt. --- Anyone else picturing Soviet satellites a la Eastern Europe between 1945 and 1989? Ukraine may not be able to hold onto Crimea, but I wouldn't put it past them to completely fark up the Black Seas fleet and the various port facilities there if they know they're going to get frozen out by the pro-Russia administration of the new state.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 27, 2014 07:17 AM (/Crba)

87 19 I honestly don't understand how the liberal media doesn't see this. I mean I assume Weigal is arrogant enough to have one of those Google alerts on his name so he has probably read what you wrote, how does he entirely fail to see this problem?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 27, 2014 11:02 AM (RZ8pf)

 

He does see it as a problem.  That's why he is doing his part in trying to make sure it isn't a problem.  Its the same reason the reporters there didn't mention it.  They knew they couldn't spin it in a good light, but it has gotten out so now its damage control and faux-outrage accusation time.

Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2014 07:17 AM (LI48c)

88 Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 11:15 AM (B/VB5) Postmodernism will eat itself. There is no other way forward for it. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2014 11:15 AM (CJjw5) I missed you EoJ .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 27, 2014 07:18 AM (hq5sb)

89 To the leftist mind, lying in the name of the cause is not a sin, it's a virtue. I believe the word you're looking for is "taqqiya".

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 07:18 AM (naUcP)

90 Autonomy from whom? Somebody put me some knowledge here, I be confuzzled... Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 11:16 AM (naUcP) Golf anyone?

Posted by: obamacare Hacker at February 27, 2014 07:18 AM (t3UFN)

91 On the     plus side, said pro-abortion vaginalogues now are repeatedly getting in trouble with      the left's new pet cause, the tranny lobby. Because implying
that vaginas only belong to people who identify as female and have sex
with people with working male parts is exclusionary.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 11:15 AM (B/VB5)

 

 

I want a    Thunderdome style tourney between the two factions,  and I want it now.      Last member of either side left standing is the winner.  

 

There can be only  one.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:18 AM (4df7R)

92 75 And I denounce myself, but how come it's "racist" to suggest funemployed urban-Americans who wish to better their lives should consider moving out to the rural areas to take jobs What kind of jobs, Heather? PICKING COTTON, perhaps? Report for cleansing at once. --- Old black Joe still pickin' cotton for your ribbons and bows And everybody knows

Posted by: Leonard Cohen at February 27, 2014 07:19 AM (/Crba)

93 I remember when Zits was an intern at reason and tried to concern troll as a libertarian. he didn't fool anyone.

Posted by: X at February 27, 2014 07:19 AM (KHo8t)

94 Hey, buddy, everybody on JournoList 2.0 feels the same way about it. That is, they would if it existed. Which it doesn't. No, sir, ma'am, or other!

Whew, talked myself out of another jam! Boy (girl, or other), am I good! Drinks for the house!

Posted by: Dave Weigel at February 27, 2014 07:19 AM (DLu2s)

95 So let me get this straight. PPACA allowed me to quit my boring old conventional job and become a full time working mime. Now Immigration reform is going to provide someone to make my bed and clean up my room. Awesome! I can be out there miming at the crack of dawn. #Mimes- The New Silent Majority

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555 at February 27, 2014 07:19 AM (g4TxM)

96 Ukraine may not be able to hold onto Crimea, but I wouldn't put it past them to completely fark up the Black Seas fleet and the various port facilities there if they know they're going to get frozen out by the pro-Russia administration of the new state. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 27, 2014 11:17 AM (/Crba) I doubt that. Russia has over 15,000 troops in the crimea plus the Fleet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 07:19 AM (t3UFN)

97

To the leftist mind, lying in the name of the cause is not a sin, it's a virtue. The ends justify the means. That they can't see that this path ends in mass graves shows how morally stunted they are.



God help us all.

 

Posted by: Turnip Defense League at February 27, 2014 11:16 AM (O7Q1u)

 

 

It's the leftist version of Islamic  taquiya.     It's tacky, ya.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:19 AM (4df7R)

98 The Leftist Media is basically the psycho ex-girlfriend of the Republicans. There is no possibility of reconciliation. Everything you say will be interpreted in the worst possible light. And the more you argue and deny, the crazier her accusations get. Best solution is cut her off completely and find a new girlfriend.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:20 AM (ZPrif)

99 It's not what's said, it's WHO said it.

Republicans/conservatives - Statements will be taken out of context or interpreted to include "dog whistles" so that no actually offending words have to actually exist before declaring them racists, bigots, H8ters, etc.

Democrats/Leftists - Doesn't matter what they say because Good Intentions.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2014 07:20 AM (aq/zi)

100 bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 27, 2014 07:21 AM (V4CBV)

101 Golf anyone? Posted by: obamacare Hacker Sure! Hand me that five-iron, I'll practice my swing... /clubs Hacker in the knees (And this, dear Horde, is why I don't play golf. Especially with our dear elites.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 07:21 AM (naUcP)

102 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 27, 2014 11:18 AM (4df7R) Should we fail to beat back the craziness that is PoMo, the other option is to accelerate it's self-destruction. Jump from one side to another constantly antagonizing. Let it Balkanize, then move in and try to start over . (Yeah, I've considered this.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 27, 2014 07:21 AM (hq5sb)

103 66 Media figures have no professional ramifications of their duplicitous actions. Until this changes, until they are held to standards and are suffer (professionally of course) for failing to meet said standards this will not end. Posted by: nuke it from orbit at February 27, 2014 11:12 AM (dpccS) Course not. They're good little Nazis in the service of their holy trinity (intentionally lower cased) *cue up Mein Kampf scene from Stalag 17*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 27, 2014 07:21 AM (UuQyC)

104 the high school valedictorian

These examples pushed by the amnesty tards are phony.  Every child of an illegal I've known has two birth certificates.  One showing place of birth in the home country and one for the USA.  They generally won't fess up to which one is real, but they are in no need of any sort of Dream act or amnesty.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 27, 2014 07:22 AM (kxSZr)

105 The Leftist Media is basically the psycho ex-girlfriend of the Republicans. I will not be ignored!

Posted by: MFM, boiling the bunny at February 27, 2014 07:22 AM (naUcP)

106
In the end, it's all the same.  This country is over with.  We'd all probably be happier, and sleep better, if we'd just stop thinking that this country has any influence over anything in the world.  Which is what Obama had in mind from the get go.  So he wins. 

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 27, 2014 07:22 AM (BZAd3)

107 96 Ukraine may not be able to hold onto Crimea, but I wouldn't put it past them to completely fark up the Black Seas fleet and the various port facilities there if they know they're going to get frozen out by the pro-Russia administration of the new state. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 27, 2014 11:17 AM (/Crba) I doubt that. Russia has over 15,000 troops in the crimea plus the Fleet --- A few guys in the right place with Exocets can mess up their day.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 27, 2014 07:22 AM (/Crba)

108 >>The Leftist Media is basically the psycho ex-girlfriend of the Republicans.

YES. Just look at how they're showing their appreciation to Jan Brewer. 

Even when Republicans give in to Democrats/the Left, it just *proves* what racists, bigots, h8ters they are and they attack them more.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM (aq/zi)

109 I was going to say something about the seemingly different view of Huck's statement in this post but no. Beans. Chili with beans.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM (EYfcP)

110 Awesome! I can be out there miming at the crack of dawn.

The silent scourge.

Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM (ZKzrr)

111 OT, but the vid from Gowdy's appearance on FNC this morning is now available: http://t.co/WzZEaHPDqf

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM (DmNpO)

112 110 Awesome! I can be out there miming at the crack of dawn. The silent scourge. --- A mime is a terrible thing to waste.

Posted by: Prince John at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM (/Crba)

113 There is some hope that the new Ukraine govt can offer Crimea enough autonomy that it will stay. That would have to include keep the Russian fleet there, letting Crimea promote the Russian language, etc.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:23 AM (ZPrif)

114 There is a fair amount of casual racism around here. ------------------------- Why don't you cry about it, you guinea bastard?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2014 07:24 AM (pqBkB)

115 What kind of jobs, Heather? PICKING COTTON, perhaps? We have machines for that.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 27, 2014 07:24 AM (1hM1d)

116 A few guys in the right place with Exocets can mess up their day. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 27, 2014 11:22 AM (/Crba) At which point the whole freaken Russian Military enters the Ukraine and ........

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 07:24 AM (t3UFN)

117 51 And I denounce myself, but how come it's "racist" to suggest funemployed urban-Americans who wish to better their lives should consider moving out to the rural areas to take jobs, but it's not racist to expect non-Americans to travel thousands of miles to take those jobs? Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 11:08 AM (ZKzrr) Oh, it's CogDiss all the way down. Because the Obama administration wants to put housing projects in the suburbs. It's just "whatever I want is right and moral". There's no objective idea anymore. You know who will clean a hotel room for $10/hr? Somebody who wants to make $10/hr.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 27, 2014 07:24 AM (T0NGe)

118 Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 27, 2014 11:22 AM (kxSZr) I have always found it interesting that there always seems to be a brilliant young mind that cannot go to college because of their status close by. I mean, just statistically that seems incredibly unlikely. Not that I suspect that illegals are smarter or dumber than anyone else, I expect them to be on the same bell curve. And yet, they seem to make up 100% of valedictorians in any democratic district. How's that work?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 27, 2014 07:24 AM (hq5sb)

119 #85 I am not a casual racist, thank you very much. I guess you haven't seen a Black comic do their spiel lately or you were not aware of all the filthy vile Tweets that Blacks put out over the Trayvon Martin incident? But, hey, if you think my implication that some Black people use derogatory racial terms about White people is specious, then you are entitled to your opinion and to be That Guy.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at February 27, 2014 07:25 AM (swQT/)

120 16 My mother was a real liberal. She was the first one on our block to have a black maid Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 11:02 AM (t3UFN) For a second there I thought someone switched my drink with battery acid because that's what it felt like rocketing out my nose. Well done.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 07:25 AM (oFCZn)

121 Mime is money.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 27, 2014 07:26 AM (V4CBV)

122 There is some hope that the new Ukraine govt can offer Crimea enough autonomy that it will stay. That would have to include keep the Russian fleet there, letting Crimea promote the Russian language, etc. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 11:23 AM (ZPrif) Russia and the Ukraine have a treaty in place that "allows" the Russian to be there till 2043 or something like that. There ain't not "letting" the Russians be there. They are there. Any fucking with that Treaty will bring the Russian Military in full force

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 07:26 AM (t3UFN)

123 Posted by: AmishDude at February 27, 2014 11:24 AM (T0NGe) In that vein, I've always found the "garbage workers make more than teachers" argument to be hilarious. I had someone tell me that once and I said "well have the teachers considered picking up garbage?" And I just got a blank stare.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 27, 2014 07:26 AM (hq5sb)

124 Don't know about this David fellow ... but I'd like to hear from Ms. Teri Weigl on the issue.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 27, 2014 07:26 AM (oa3RJ)

125 Fuck you, Frumious. And your horse, too. Eat a dick.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:26 AM (ZPrif)

126 Bright, articulate and clean.

Posted by: Joey Biden at February 27, 2014 07:26 AM (kVfSG)

127 Democrats with bylines. One people, one party, one leader.

Posted by: Heinlein's lost son at February 27, 2014 07:26 AM (oAAdN)

128 111 OT, but the vid from Gowdy's appearance on FNC this morning is now available: http://t.co/WzZEaHPDqf

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 11:23 AM (DmNpO)


The only reason why she'd be demanding immunity is if what she did carried a harsher penalty than the penalty for contempt of congress.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 27, 2014 07:27 AM (BZAd3)

129 And yet, they seem to make up 100% of valedictorians in any democratic district. How's that work? --- Look at the general performance of many of the schools in said districts. I'm guessing that anything approaching "literate" would be in the top quartile of those students.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 27, 2014 07:27 AM (/Crba)

130 Awesome! I can be out there miming at the crack of dawn. The silent scourge. Actually, chili with beans is the silent scourage.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 07:27 AM (xZxMD)

131 Has an actual black person used the word 'honky' anywhere since the 1970s?

Yes, daily, on Twitter.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 07:28 AM (B/VB5)

132 Has an actual black person used the word 'honky' anywhere since the 1970s? ------- Yeah plenty of times.

Posted by: Adam at February 27, 2014 07:28 AM (Aif/5)

133 Chili without beans is a hate crime.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 07:28 AM (EYfcP)

134 Mime is money.

Laid back
With my mime on my money and my money on my mime

Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 07:28 AM (ZKzrr)

135 ** gently pokes head into a "Huckabee said this about women thread"


Safe to come in??  Everybody OK???

Posted by: fixerupper at February 27, 2014 07:28 AM (nELVU)

136 133 No,chili without meat is a hate crime.

Posted by: steevy at February 27, 2014 07:29 AM (zqvg6)

137 85 I guess, "Si, senora." is preferable to "Yo Mama, you honky bitch!" I'm going to be "that guy" this time. There is a fair amount of casual racism around here. Has an actual black person used the word 'honky' anywhere since the 1970s? Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 27, 2014 11:17 AM (A0sHn) I think it was last used around the time a whitey, cracker used the term mongrel.

Posted by: Wayne Storm at February 27, 2014 07:29 AM (DAevm)

138 124 Don't know about this David fellow ... but I'd like to hear from Ms. Teri Weigl on the issue. --- I'd settle for hearing from Trudy Weigle on this one instead of Dave.

Posted by: Lt. Jim Dangle at February 27, 2014 07:29 AM (/Crba)

139 Democrat Spike Lee Rails Against Whites Moving Into Black NYC NeighborhoodsÂ… Weasel Zippers: But he is a democrat and black so ya know it's OK

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 07:29 AM (t3UFN)

140

Oh.   A long post about Slate.

I    just   figured that somebody had accidentally knocked over the barrel.

 

Posted by: Roy at February 27, 2014 07:29 AM (VndSC)

141 Thanks for the Gowdy link. Guy knows how to play the game.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:29 AM (gBnkX)

142 Who would make chili without meat?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 07:29 AM (EYfcP)

143 And Frumious, if you think there is so much casual racism here, why do you stay? Shorter Frumious: I know you guys get mad when the media calls you racist, but you really are racists. Maybe if you weren't so racist, people would stop saying you're racist?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:30 AM (ZPrif)

144

Two points:

 

First point, the Democratic Party a/k/a Party of the Seven Deadly Sins has been since the slaveholding class (lead by Thomas Jefferson  et al) created it, the party of racial division and hatred for the retention of power.

 

   A. They preserved slavery and sought its expansion, including, prohibiting the Congress from even considering the elimination of slavery, when the Democratic Party a/k/a Party of the Seven Deadly Sins  controlled Congress from the time of the psycho Andrew Jackson to the Civil War, during the same time that the British Empire was eliminating the slavery and the slave trade.  Note that the GOP has the Lincoln Day celebrations and the Democratic Party a/k/a Party of the Seven Deadly Sins  has the Jefferson-Jackson Day celebrations (that is more than a painted rock).

B. The Democratic Party a/k/a Party of the Seven Deadly Sins  was willing to destroy the Republic (not a "democracy") in order preserve their slaves and power.

C. Democratic Party a/k/a Party of the Seven Deadly Sins created Jim Crow, the KKK, "separate, but equal," eugenics Pro(Re)gressivism, racial quotes, New South, the Southern Manifesto, reverse discrimination, a debased public (read government) school system to destroy the black community and capture their votes.

The Democratic Party a/k/a Party of the Seven Deadly Sins  has not nor is able to every care about the best interest of individuals in a Republic, because they impede their power and privilege.

Second point, Dave Weigel, is a much of a journalist as Walter "Kim Philby" Cronkite or Walter Duranty.  The only thing that Dave Weigel (or David Brooks or David Frum) are qualified to be are towel boys and used condom collects at a homosexual brothel

Posted by: HIbernian Faithful at February 27, 2014 07:30 AM (hkqLS)

145 >>>#85 I am not a casual racist, thank you very much. I guess you haven't seen a Black comic do their spiel lately or you were not aware of all the filthy vile Tweets that Blacks put out over the Trayvon Martin incident? But, hey, if you think my implication that some Black people use derogatory racial terms about White people is specious, then you are entitled to your opinion and to be That Guy. ... >>>125 Fuck you, Frumious. And your horse, too. Eat a dick. ... I have advised everyone here that some people are not as comfortable with the frequent dives into the racial well as others are. If you want to continue to ignore that, and make people uncomfortable, that is your choice, but it's also other people's right to tell you you're making them uncomfortable.

Posted by: ace at February 27, 2014 07:30 AM (/FnUH)

146 My wife has students now for the third time in the same college class, all of whom have failed in the past, been sent to the Writing Center for remedial help, given extra time that basically makes professors tutors too, and all of their papers are still unreadable garbage. If you don't learn to communicate early on, you never will. I weep for our future.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 07:30 AM (ZshNr)

147 When a job-unlocked livestock-abusing mime visits his uncle's farm... ...The Silence of the Lambs

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555 at February 27, 2014 07:30 AM (g4TxM)

148 Don't know about this David fellow ... but I'd like to hear from Ms. Teri Weigl on the issue. Seconded!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 07:30 AM (xZxMD)

149 I didn't realize Dave Weigel was such a Proactiv dem apologist.

Posted by: punnyguy at February 27, 2014 07:30 AM (ggEqg)

150 Laid back
With my mime on my money and my money on my mime

I'd say you owe me a keyboard, but we use shitty Dell ones and have them stacked like firewood in the IT closet.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 07:30 AM (B/VB5)

151

Status of Dave Weigel:  Hoist with his own petard.

 

For sport.

 

By ace

 

 

Excellent!  (temples fingers)

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 27, 2014 07:31 AM (BAS5M)

152 "I think all of that is Latin for zero." Not only does he know how play the game, he's fucking funny. Loved the Bojangles drive-thru comment yesterday.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:31 AM (gBnkX)

153 Beans. Chili with beans.

Posted by: DangerGirl

No, a thousand times, no. Beans have no business in chili. Ever.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 27, 2014 07:32 AM (fk1A8)

154

Shorter ace:  the "press" is a collection of not very bright, racist, soft fascist ignoramuses, who generally aren't even clever in their attempts to distort and manufacture reality.

 

Sometimes I think that these (entirely on-target, valid, well done) fiskings of the so-called media are akin to going into great detail to explain why it is that the NKVD was sort of brutal and murderous during the 30s.  Immeasurably vast overkill.

 

And there's not a single reason to expect anything to change.  Most people I know are so (effectively) clueless about the world, so saturated in the marinade of degraded, dumbed-down America, that they don't have the tools to begin to understand.  Like trying to take some true-believer ex-Soviets from some medium-sized Russian industrial town in the 90s and get them to understand economics, Soviet history, or civilized governance.  Nothing to work with.

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 07:32 AM (afQnV)

155 So right now JEF is giving a presser saying we're all too dumb to understand nutrition labels so something just must be done about it, by the feds of course. Seriously. Nutrition labels. They're just too much for us for us plebs.

Posted by: brak at February 27, 2014 07:32 AM (iEoiA)

156 The only reason why she'd be demanding immunity is if what she did carried a harsher penalty than the penalty for contempt of congress. ** She seemingly doesn't believe they'll actually hold her in contempt. It seems that Gowdy thinks otherwise. Issa and Boehner need to step up or get the hell out of the way.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 07:32 AM (DmNpO)

157 @36 - Did you read the comments there?  I didn't go through them all but those that I did read were pretty much, "What's wrong?  All he did was tell the truth?"

If a Republican had said it....

Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 27, 2014 07:33 AM (vg8iE)

158 119?
Sherry Mac?

The most racist people I personally know are blacks or Asians.

Just sayin', but that is what I've seen.

Posted by: backhoe at February 27, 2014 07:33 AM (ULH4o)

159 Ousted President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych will hold press conference on Friday in Rostov-on-Don, reports @ria_novosti, citing source. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 11:10 AM
====
IIRC, Solzhenitsyn was born there. Not relevant, just interesting.

Posted by: mrp at February 27, 2014 07:33 AM (JBggj)

160 People who think beans shouldn't be in chili make me uncomfortable.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 07:33 AM (EYfcP)

161 No,chili without meat is a hate crime. Chili without meat is just bean soup. True Texas chili has no beans. However, in 404Care America, beans are allowed as a way to strech the high cost of chili.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 07:33 AM (xZxMD)

162

She seemingly doesn't believe they'll actually hold her in contempt. It seems that Gowdy thinks otherwise.

 

To   which my cynical response is:  so what if they do?   The fricking AG has been in contempt for over a year now, yet he's still issuing his own little edicts like a good little apparatchik.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:34 AM (4df7R)

163 Dems never change . "But who will pick our cotton?" they said back in the 1850s

Posted by: votermom at February 27, 2014 07:34 AM (lGgcU)

164 Dave very much wants you to know that only a Republican-paid media tracker reported this line, and that the entirety of the Democrat media present in the room refused to do so.

He says this as if this proves the fact that the line was not objectionable.


I'm sure Weigel objects very strongly to gotcha stories that come from Democrat-paid media trackers.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 07:35 AM (B/VB5)

165 I'm going to be "that guy" this time. There is a fair amount of casual racism around here. Has an actual black person used the word 'honky' anywhere since the 1970s? Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 27, 2014 11:17 AM (A0sHn) I find myself forced to add a "Fuck You" to that.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 27, 2014 07:35 AM (UuQyC)

166 Dave Weigel?  THE Dave Weigel - of Journ-O-List fame?  The former WaPo blogger of things "conservative"?  That Dave Weigel?

Posted by: mrp at February 27, 2014 07:35 AM (JBggj)

167 Having raised not one, but two valedictorians in a predominantly Hispanic district, I can assure you that Hispanic valedictorians do exist, but not in the numbers touted by the Democrats.  As with any kid, it's the involvement of the parents in academic pursuits that pushes the kid to the top.  That just doesn't happen a lot in the illegal subculture.  My daughter's graduating class was 50% of the size of her Freshman class.  Most were lost to gangs, drugs, pregnancy and/or general indifference.  Nothing to do with race, per se, as the kids involvedcame in all colors, shapes and sizes.  Being illegal doesn't give the kids a leg up or down.  Being in a family that values education?  That's what does the trick.

Posted by: Turnip Defense League [/i] at February 27, 2014 07:35 AM (O7Q1u)

168 "Issa and Boehner need to step up or get the hell out of the way. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 11:32 AM (DmNpO)" Yeah, but as Gowdy also says - congress can't indict her. You can bet your ass she's fully aware of that too. If she gets a visit from the capitol police, the media is going to spin it as bad optics for Republicans. I don't think Boehner and Issa have the balls to face that prospect.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:36 AM (gBnkX)

169 Shorter ace: the "press" is a collection of not very bright, racist, soft fascist ignoramuses, who generally aren't even clever in their attempts to distort and manufacture reality. Summary of the summary? (Sorry Ace. I'll stop)

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 07:36 AM (xZxMD)

170 Hilarious that not only is using forbidden epithets for other racists considered rightly racist but using an epithet about your own race is racist. God help me .

Posted by: Wayne Storm at February 27, 2014 07:36 AM (DAevm)

171 THE Dave Weigel - of Journ-O-List fame? The former WaPo blogger of things "conservative"?

He also spent like 6 months pretending to be a libertarian at Reason.  His name is still an instant laugh line there.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 07:37 AM (B/VB5)

172 People who think beans shouldn't be in chili make me uncomfortable.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 11:33 AM (EYfcP)


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People who put beans in chili make me uncomfortable..... an hour or so later.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 27, 2014 07:37 AM (nELVU)

173 Last two sentences...Is it saving this Weigel guy or Sink? Cause Alex Sink is of the wimmen gender, I think. Could be wrong!

Had a Republican said these words of maids and gardeners they would be hung out to dry and raciss.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Morons at February 27, 2014 07:37 AM (baL2B)

174 That's why I say it's like psycho ex-girlfriends Once you assume a person is racist then you interpret everything they say in the worst possible light. So a liberal (and therefore a certified non-racist) can, say, have fun with some ethnic humor. But a conservative can't, cause we all know they are secretly racist. Ethnic jokes from a liberal -- just good natured fun. Ethnic jokes from a conservative -- basically proof they are secretly in the KKK. Do an ethnic accent as a lib -- ha ha, good one. Do an ethnic accent as a Repub -- you sir, are a monster!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:37 AM (ZPrif)

175 I would not say Sherry was "casually racist" due to this line but it does seem to dip unnecessarily into racial "humor." This makes people uncomfortable. Sorry, it does. There are people who believe -- just like THE LEFT -- that racial stuff is offensive to some degree, whether in a minor way or a more major way. (I think Sherry is on the minor edge of it here.) Many of us think that more serious racial stuff is not just uncomfortable and offensive, but simply disreputable, and not classy. I realize there seems to be some sharp disagreement on this point. But no one can pretend, at this point, to be unaware that there is in fact disagreement on this point, and should not act surprised when someone says, "Hey, I don't like that." We are not all committed to believe what each other believes. I don't have to defend, endorse, or enjoy the various racial jibes I see here (again, Sherry's was minor, but people's tolerance settings vary). And I can tell you that I consider this stuff (not Sherry's, really, but more... forward leaning stuff) disreputable. I instantly think less of the person offering such crap, and I also think less of myself for mere association. These are the actual facts of America 2014. Tolerance and racial sensitivity are in fact good things (even if the leftist agitprop groups use them as weapons). And casual racial stuff just seems unnecessary. It's also rarely funny. Look, my head was just about ready to explode the 30th time I read, in these comments, that Michele Obama's vegetable patch would of course include a watermelon, because, you know, black people loves some watermelon! Some may find this not crude, retrograde, and stupid, but rather funny and witty. Fine. That's your opinion. Others are permitted to have a differing opinion, and others are permitted to share this opinion with you.

Posted by: ace at February 27, 2014 07:37 AM (/FnUH)

176 When a job-unlocked livestock-abusing mime visits his uncle's farm...


...The Silence of the Lambs

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555 at February 27, 2014 11:30 AM (g4TxM)

 

That was baaaaaa-ad.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 07:38 AM (DrWcr)

177 >>>My takeaway from all this? I think that women could control their libidos better if they cut the grass for their man.<<<

Men would better control their libidos for them if they landscaped the bush.

Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2014 07:38 AM (UzPAd)

178 People who think beans shouldn't be in chili make me uncomfortable.

Posted by: DangerGirl

The beans are a crutch. It's like saying "I can't make decent chili, so I threw some beans in to cover up my lack of chili prowess." Quality chili doesn't need no stinkin' beans.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 27, 2014 07:38 AM (fk1A8)

179

Our landskeeper, Juan, is just amazing.  He is an artist and boxwoods are his medium.


Consuela isn't so bad in the bathroom, either.  Although I've noticed she's not so good about cleaning my pubes off the bathroom floor.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 27, 2014 07:38 AM (S+el1)

180 Casual racism: Being called a mongrel by Ted Nugent, while he is wearing a polo shirt with cargo shorts and topsiders.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2014 07:38 AM (Vlq2M)

181 If she gets a visit from the capitol police, the media is going to spin it as bad optics for Republicans.

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Let the MFM try..... most folks arent going buy it.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 27, 2014 07:38 AM (nELVU)

182

Not sure it's been stated, but let's  be clear on this:  White Democrats think all Republicans  are racist.  They think White Democrats are completely not racist at all, and they have an absolute blind spot to the truth, which is that Democrats of color are often the most racist people on the planet.

 

Why?

 

Because they're entitled.  You aren't.  They are.  

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 07:38 AM (TOk1P)

183 The most racist people I personally know are blacks or Asians. 100% troof. Not even debatable, unless you're disingenuous or a democrat.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 27, 2014 07:39 AM (UuQyC)

184 When a job-unlocked livestock-abusing mime visits his uncle's farm... ...The Silence of the Lambs
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555 at February 27, 2014 11:30 AM (g4TxM)

That was baaaaaa-ad.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 11:38 AM (DrWcr)


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Ewe.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 27, 2014 07:39 AM (nELVU)

185 Democrat Spike Lee Rails Against Whites Moving Into Black NYC NeighborhoodsÂ…

I don't know why poor Shelton would object to yuppies moving into his neighborhood. It would, after all, increase his chances of meeting somebody that actually saw his latest crappy flop movie.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 27, 2014 07:40 AM (DLu2s)

186 If I could save mimes, in a bottle. The first thing that I'd like to do... /Zombie Jim Croce

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555 at February 27, 2014 07:40 AM (g4TxM)

187

When a job-unlocked livestock-abusing mime visits his uncle's farm... ...The Silence of the Lambs

 


Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555 at February 27, 2014 11:30 AM (g4TxM)




That was baaaaaa-ad.


Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 11:38 AM (DrWcr)

 


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Ewe.

 

Posted by: fixerupper at February 27, 2014 11:39 AM (nELVU)

 

 

Ram it, all o' youse.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:40 AM (4df7R)

188 Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 11:32 AM (afQnV) I disagree. I think ace is usually at his best and most effective when he goes after the media. There's no way to know for sure, but I think the guy has moved the needle when it comes to discrediting the media. Both his short and long form critiques work wonders. He can't just be dismissed as a casual one-liner critic because he's got a body of work to back up his snark.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:40 AM (gBnkX)

189 John McCain can't jump.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 07:40 AM (Hx5uv)

190 "Honkey" seems to be used today as a deliberately anachronistic term and a term of endearment.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 27, 2014 07:41 AM (T0NGe)

191

In my local TEXAS Kroger, cans of chili with beans are heavily  discounted.  Cans of good ol' chili are not.

 

The market has spoken.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 27, 2014 07:41 AM (BAS5M)

192

""Where are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?"

Yeah, except after they're legitimized don't expect them to do the cheapo work that 'undocumented' people do because you've just taken away the incentive to work on the cheap.  Oh! and if taken 'In Context',  it should be noted that lawyers don't work cheap, so 'Cake-and-Eat-it-Too' Sink has just refuted her own argument.

Posted by: Speller at February 27, 2014 07:41 AM (J74Py)

193 The market has spoken.

Posted by: Count de Monet

I rest my case.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 27, 2014 07:41 AM (fk1A8)

194

For cripes sake, Flatbush, I'm not on a jihad about it.  And I didn't mean to pick on Sherry specifically.  I do get the sense that some people sometimes unironically channel Archie Bunker in here. 

 

For that you and the rest of the conga line are welcome to tell me to eat a dick. 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 27, 2014 07:42 AM (A0sHn)

195 Bandersnatch should never listen to Jo Koy on the Carolla podcast. Or should I say the Carorra podcast.

Posted by: Wayne Storm at February 27, 2014 07:42 AM (DAevm)

196 I think ace is usually at his best and most effective when he goes after the media. There's no way to know for sure, but I think the guy has moved the needle when it comes to discrediting the media.

Remember, Ace is facing legal exposure because he participated in one of the most effective use-the-media-against-themselves operations that a non-Leftist has ever pulled off.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 07:42 AM (B/VB5)

197 And, yeah, the two most racist groups I've interacted with, by far, are blacks and asians. Racist blacks are open and public about it. They tend to say "white boy" a lot. Racist asians are quiet about. The asian side of my family is way, way more racist than the white side.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:42 AM (ZPrif)

198 Hilarious that not only is using forbidden epithets for other racists considered rightly racist but using an epithet about your own race is racist. God help me . Posted by: Wayne Storm at February 27, 2014 11:36 AM (DAevm) You and the NFL referees

Posted by: Jen at February 27, 2014 07:43 AM (XkXzn)

199 163 Dems never change . "But who will pick our cotton?" they said back in the 1850s Posted by: votermom at February 27, 2014 11:34 AM (lGgcU) And that's no exaggeration. It was said at the founding (by no less than Washington to Lafayette, who was advocating to end slavery) too. They thought it was a system they were stuck with and to get rid of it would upend the economic order. And, look, it's not like we don't have a lot of legal immigrants either.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 27, 2014 07:43 AM (T0NGe)

200 And there's not a single reason to expect anything to change. Most people I know are so (effectively) clueless about the world, so saturated in the marinade of degraded, dumbed-down America, that they don't have the tools to begin to understand. Like trying to take some true-believer ex-Soviets from some medium-sized Russian industrial town in the 90s and get them to understand economics, Soviet history, or civilized governance. Nothing to work with. Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 11:32 AM (afQnV) At least it's cathartic, but I think it is more than that. Just as liberalism has seeped in to people's consciousness, things like this can too; when they are told and repeated often enough. These are the types of points I make to my liberal/non-political friends when the opportunity arises.

Posted by: duke at February 27, 2014 07:43 AM (d3clc)

201 For that you and the rest of the conga line are welcome to tell me to eat a dick.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (A0sHn)

 

Eat-a eat-a di-ick!

Eat-a eat-a di-ick!

Posted by: Conga line at February 27, 2014 07:43 AM (DrWcr)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555- first draft of campaign speech at February 27, 2014 07:44 AM (g4TxM)

203 Thanks, Burn the Witch, but I doubt I've moved the needle at all. Non-Purist: You may be right that this is entirely futile, as far as actual real-world impact. But what else can I do? I'm a writer; all I can do is write.

Posted by: ace at February 27, 2014 07:44 AM (/FnUH)

204 "Let the MFM try..... most folks arent going buy it. Posted by: fixerupper at February 27, 2014 11:38 AM (nELVU)" Let's just agree to disagree on that one.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:44 AM (gBnkX)

205 AmIwrong, or wasn't Dave 'Wiggle' meant to be the 'conservative' balance at Slate?

Posted by: Sphynx at February 27, 2014 07:45 AM (OZmbA)

206 As   I've said  before, beans in chili is some kind of Frankenstein-ish creation more resembling  some Boston Yankee bean dish  than by gum authentic chili.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 27, 2014 07:45 AM (BAS5M)

207 191 In my local TEXAS Kroger, cans of chili with beans are heavily discounted. Cans of good ol' chili are not.

The market has spoken.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 27, 2014 11:41 AM (BAS5M)


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Hormel Tabasco chili with beans eaten with tortilla chips is a good meal. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 27, 2014 07:45 AM (HubSo)

208 People told you to eat a dick because you called them racist. So eat a dick.

Posted by: Wayne Storm at February 27, 2014 07:45 AM (DAevm)

209 I don't know why poor Shelton would object to yuppies moving into his neighborhood. It would, after all, increase his chances of meeting somebody that actually saw his latest crappy flop movie. Spike doesn't even make "his own" movies anymore. At least, not ones with any budget. He's basically at the same level as M. Night Shyamalan now.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 27, 2014 07:45 AM (T0NGe)

210



Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

That was lovely, but I'd take


and replace it with



Makes a stronger statement.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 27, 2014 07:45 AM (fk1A8)

211 If she gets a visit from the capitol police, the media is going to spin it as bad optics for Republicans. I don't think Boehner and Issa have the balls to face that prospect. That would further cement their well-deserved reputation as being weak, and unfit for their offices, particularly in this administration where strong opposition to TFG's lawlessness is absolutely required. If they won't stand up for the rule of law, what good are they?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 07:45 AM (0HooB)

212 Stepping to the ledge: most business people are terrified of losing their illegals and having to hire the unemployed based solely on job performance, not racism.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 27, 2014 07:46 AM (HGIxv)

213 Basically, Davie is a racist.

He is a racist who has no black friends.

He is a racist who has no Hispanic friends.

He. Is. A. Racist.

Only a racist would fail to notice the pure racism of assuming Hispanics are only good for cleaning hotel rooms and landscaping.

That is racism through and through.

It wasn't clumsy, it wasn't unintentional--it was racist born of a deep, internal racism.
That Democrat--and all who listened without horror--have fully internalized the most racist of racist stereotypes: Hispanics are a stupid people, fit only for menial labor, to be seen but not heard.
That is what he is saying.
He is only one half-step away from the racism of the plantation owner in saying, "Why educate the Hispanic? His station in life is to work, he has no need to read or write to clean my room and farm my fields. Why should he be burdened with things of no use to him?"

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 27, 2014 07:46 AM (VjL9S)

214 "Honkey" seems to be used today as a deliberately anachronistic term and a term of endearment ---- yup.

Posted by: Jenny Has a HonkyTonk Badonkadonk at February 27, 2014 07:46 AM (AQMFK)

215 205 AmIwrong, or wasn't Dave 'Wiggle' meant to be the 'conservative' balance at Slate? Posted by: Sphynx at February 27, 2014 11:45 AM (OZmbA) Heh........

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 27, 2014 07:47 AM (UuQyC)

216 Actually, honky and cracker were words used quite often in the death threats directed to Zimmerman. So, it's not just nostalgia for The Jeffersons. Is it also insensitive to point out that someone with an ass the size of Michelle Obama should not be telling anyone what to eat.

Posted by: ejo at February 27, 2014 07:47 AM (GXvSO)

217 "Tolerance and racial sensitivity are in fact good things (even if the leftist agitprop groups use them as weapons)."

Yeah up to a point.  I'm not going to argue that throwing out racial slurs is okay but I'm also not going to pretend the tolerance and racial sensitivity has been expanding to the point that any mention of the deep troubles inside black culture, especially black violence, is not acceptable. I'm talking about our nation as a whole but it does creep in here and other conservative sites.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 27, 2014 07:47 AM (IV4od)

218

Sink's argument isn't confined to Democrats. When immigration came up during the Bush years, writers from 'The Wall Street Journal' were also asking, 'Where are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?'

 

Of course when they say 'Where are you...' they mean 'Where am I going to get people to work to clean and landscape...'. It's the argument of the political and financial elites, who are merely looking out for their own interests. It should be noted their interests and favored issues sometimes coincide with those of the Outer Party and the proles. Immigration is not one of those issues. This is not one of those times.

 

That's my bitch with the GOP Establishment. The leadership of the Republican Party is, by and large, indistinguishable from Democratic Party elites. Or media elites. Or business elites. They run in the same circles. They send their kids to the same schools. They eat at the same restaurants and go to the same concerts and shows. They wrestle with the same personal and professional problems.  They are a ruling class, which is incompatible in a system where the people are supposed to be free, and free people are governed, not ruled. 

Posted by: troyriser at February 27, 2014 07:47 AM (gNlvW)

219 Legendary Leafs goalie Johnny Bower sings about Honky the Christmas Goose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-jclgfX0lg

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 27, 2014 07:47 AM (t8ySh)

220 >>> AmIwrong, or wasn't Dave 'Wiggle' meant to be the 'conservative' balance at Slate? you're wrong. He was, for a time, hired to cover the Conservative Beat for... the Washington Post. I don't know what happened thereafter, but I think there was some objection from conservatives that Weigel was a liberal. So once again the media had a liberal covering liberals, and to be consistent about it, a liberal covering conservatives.

Posted by: ace at February 27, 2014 07:47 AM (/FnUH)

221 Harrumph!  Chili Appreciation Society International rule #2:

NO FILLERS IN CHILI - Beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, or other similar ingredients are not permitted.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 27, 2014 07:47 AM (kxSZr)

222 Beautiful, Seamus, but it needs moar

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at February 27, 2014 07:48 AM (AQMFK)

223 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555- first draft of campaign speech Still more of value said than an Obama speech.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 07:49 AM (naUcP)

224 >>>That's my bitch with the GOP Establishment. The leadership of the RepublicanParty is, by and large, indistinguishable from Democratic Party elites. Or media elites. Or business elites. They run in the same circles. They send their kids to the same schools. They eat at the same restaurants and go to the same concerts and shows. They wrestle with the same personal and professional problems. They are a ruling class, which is incompatible in a system wherethe people are supposed to be free, and free people are governed, not ruled. I think you're right (and I've written a lot on this) but I would also point out that this is all sort of inevitable, isn't it? Class is thicker than political affiliation, and you will tend to see members of the same general class adopting the mores of the class.

Posted by: ace at February 27, 2014 07:49 AM (/FnUH)

225 One of my favorite recent Coulter observations is how they go on non-stop broadcasting from the rooftops that R's want brown people to be poor, get sick, die, etc... and then cackle and scoff when there aren't many of them at R events.

Posted by: Mega at February 27, 2014 07:49 AM (hHFOx)

226 But what else can I do? I'm a writer; all I can do is write. Posted by: ace at February 27, 2014 11:44 AM (/FnUH) *** Have you considered a career as a mime? We have openings.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555 at February 27, 2014 07:49 AM (g4TxM)

227 >>So once again the media had a liberal covering liberals, and to be consistent about it, a liberal covering conservatives.<<


Oh well.  That IS the natural order of things.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 27, 2014 07:49 AM (OZmbA)

228 Maybe we commenters can compromise with Ace; be circumspect about racial humor every day but Friday; Friday can be 'Casual Racism Friday' here at AceOSpadesCorpLLC! TGICRF!

No, huh?

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 27, 2014 07:50 AM (DLu2s)

229 I don't know why poor Shelton would object to yuppies moving into his neighborhood. It would, after all, increase his chances of meeting somebody that actually saw his latest crappy flop movie.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 27, 2014 11:40 AM (DLu2s)



I've never understood the adulation heaped on those wastes of film, other than paternalistic bless his hearts from lib enablers, for his sappy uninsightful storylines with unbelievable endings which traffic in some of the worst stereotypes this side of DW Griffith.  Oh and his inclusion of his father's unlistenable dogshit music in the scores just adds to the trainwreck.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 07:50 AM (FQEMb)

230

206 -

 

I don't understand why so-called Texans  get so hung up on this.

 

Beans  IMPROVE  chili.   They improve the taste,  and  they improve the texture.  Otherwise chili  is just overwet meat.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 07:50 AM (TOk1P)

231 The media believes Republicans are racist. [...] The media believes Democrats -- [...] are not racist
***
Actually, you are giving them *way* too much credit here.

Most of the left believes that blacks and Hispanics are intellectually inferior to whites - remember Ruth Bader Ginsburg's comment on why we got Roe v Wade?

“Frankly I had thought that at the time [Roe v. Wade] was decided,” Ginsburg told her interviewer, Emily Bazelon, “there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”

The difference is the left believes itself to be made up of "good" racists who solve this "problem" via abortion and affirmative action. The bad rightwingers want to leave the untermenschen to their own devices...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 27, 2014 07:50 AM (P3U0f)

232 He is only one half-step away from the racism of the plantation owner in saying, "Why educate the Hispanic? His station in life is to work, he has no need to read or write to clean my room and farm my fields. Why should he be burdened with things of no use to him? If the right WERE as racist as the left claims, (Bull Conner & KKK racist), there wouldn't be any illegals left in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 07:51 AM (xZxMD)

233 This makes people uncomfortable. Sorry, it does. There are people who believe -- just like THE LEFT -- that racial stuff is offensive to some degree, whether in a minor way or a more major way. - I t6hink there is a legitimate question about whether by adopting this standard we are enabling the left to demonize us or whether if we don't adopt this standard then we are enabling the left to demonize us. Whatever we do will be wrong, as far as the MBM goes. You can see that as confining or as liberating. Why should we help the left promote the idea that any hint of racism is the mostest baddest thing ever while our entire system of government is being destroyed? Harry Reid today essentially called the Koch Brothers liars and suggested they are racists. Reid may have been talking about the Koch brothers but he meant us. At what point is it that we stop allowing the left to define our priorities? (I, myself, attempt to avoided any racist language and any racist thought, but that is for reasons of my own.) P.S. this is Ace's blog and he can do whatever he wants.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 07:51 AM (Hx5uv)

234 "Weigel thinks this saves him?

Because I think it hangs him."

ISWYDT, you racist.....

Posted by: MtTB at February 27, 2014 07:51 AM (lQCe+)

235 Seamus, you might also want to include this from the late, great Marcel Marceau:


Powerful stuff, eh?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2014 07:51 AM (aq/zi)

236 So a liberal (and therefore a certified non-racist) can, say, have fun with some ethnic humor. But a conservative can't, cause we all know they are secretly racist. I keep seeing this stupid argument- They get to make racial / racist remarks without consequence, so why can't I? I think the better question is- Why are you so eager to engage in "ethnic humor"?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 07:51 AM (SY2Kh)

237 Has Ace moved the needle against the MSM? Respectfully, I don't really think so. I don't think anyone has actually. I've noticed a lot of the "MSM is a dying dinosaur" talk has vanished after the last election and for good reason: that election showed the MSM still has a lot of clout to get losers elected.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 07:51 AM (oFCZn)

238 98 Flatbush Joe, Or punch their fucking teeth down their throat. The Republican party cannot stop the lwft b/c they refuse to reverse-engineer its power base and react accordingly. Weigel just admitted he will lie and hide reality to protect Communism in this nation, and the McCain wing wants to suck Dave's cock to get a pat on the head.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 07:52 AM (TE35l)

239 Considering that in modern America, calling someone, especially a white person, a racist is just about the worst thing you can call them, then maybe somebody like Frumious shouldn't just throw out verbal bombs like that. Or shouldn't be surprised when people take offense. Saying someone is racist in modern America is saying they are the worst of the worst, the lowest of the low. And the whole point of this thread is how unfairly we are treated by the Media on this, and Frumious comes in to say, yeah, but you guys really are racist scum. Oh, well then, thank you, buddy. Once someone wades in throwing verbal bombs and racism accusations then it's a free-for-all, they have immediately gone to the worst thing you can call somebody. And then they get butthurt if somebody gets offended, pretending they didn't just throw a verbal grenade in the room. I think people who do that are despicable beyond belief.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:52 AM (ZPrif)

240 "He was, for a time, hired to cover the Conservative Beat for... the Washington Post. " Oh, how they must laugh during their editorial board meetings.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 27, 2014 07:52 AM (A98Xu)

241 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555- first draft of campaign speech *sniff* That was beautiful, man.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 07:52 AM (0HooB)

242 Actually, if I'm being honest with you all...I hate chili.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 27, 2014 07:52 AM (ELs9k)

243 So once again the media had a liberal covering liberals, and to be consistent about it, a liberal covering conservatives.

I always adore the travelogue-style pieces that breathlessly inform Manhattanites of the strange people and customs of, for instance, Ames, Iowa.  Lileks got himself on the map fisking a particularly egregious one back in the day.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 07:52 AM (B/VB5)

244

Have you considered a career as a mime? We have openings.


 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555 at February 27, 2014 11:49 AM (g4TxM)

 

How do mimes    interview   potential new mimes?

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:52 AM (4df7R)

245 If we don't allow immigration from the Philippines, who will shoot ping pong balls across the bar?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 27, 2014 07:52 AM (m5FXg)

246 In other journ-o-lism news: Journalists covering Ronan Farrow's journalism award presentation were ordered not to ask him any questions. So, journalists at a journalism award presentation were told not to engage in journalism. Our Betters, the MFM.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 07:53 AM (7ObY1)

247 BREAKING: Eric Holder in good condition after being taken to hospital complaining of shortness of breath and faintness...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 07:53 AM (oFCZn)

248 Oh, boy!
Let the Chilli Warz begin.

Actually, the bar & grill down Newcastle street from me- Tipsy McSway's- has excellent food- including sides of chilli. And yes, it has some beans in it....

Posted by: backhoe at February 27, 2014 07:54 AM (ULH4o)

249 BREAKING:

Eric Holder in good condition after being taken to hospital complaining of shortness of breath and faintness...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 11:53 AM (oFCZn)

 

DAMMIT!  I mean, I'm glad he's doing OK...

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 07:54 AM (DrWcr)

250 I still don't understand why businesses want these illegals to be legal. Then their wages will go up, they will join a union, and the whole process starts all over again!

Or is that just a big lie by Dem supporters?

Posted by: PJ at February 27, 2014 07:54 AM (ZWaLo)

251 If we don't allow the Irish to immigrate all the bars will close.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (OZmbA)

252 Otherwise chili is just overwet meat.

You don't like getting your meat wet? O_O

This is an angle I did not consider for a Chili Day Flamewar.

Posted by: HR, sorting spreadsheets at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (ZKzrr)

253 Everyone is raciss so just get over it and dance.

Apparently my son's gf's father, who lives in a very affluent area of West Floriduh, considers me a redneck Republican who probably is missing teef and chaws tobaccy on my plantation with a sixth grade level of edumacation. I doubt he has seen a photo of my aging supermodel self. I am quite sure he has not heard me talk, found any information on me on the Internet, or met me.  I dunno the details, but apparently this dude from Boston and a Dem heard my boy's mama was from Mississippi and, gasp, a Rethuglican....oh, no! Quelle horreur! (Boy's dad is from Long Island, so, apparently, he is ok!).  This biased New England doofus is, apparently, the Archie Bunker speak-his-mind type and my son fears, if we ever meet, there will be blood shed, probably by moi. I told him, no, suga, I will be on my best behavior with honey dripping from my suddenly more pronounced Southern belle accent (as that irritates the living hell out of biased people like this). I will show impeccable manners, poise and refinement.  I may brush up on Socrates or something. And I will bat my eyes and be charming as hell and he will think, "Wow, maybe everyone from Mississippi is not as stupid as I thought!" And I will throw books written by Faulker and Welty at him as I sashay out the door.

My point? Everyone is racist and opinionated. Everyone. My other son has a black co-worker and they joke about race. It is a pity everyone cannot be like those two as it is totally stupid. Totally. I don't care if NFL players call each other the n word. I do not care. I don't care if they call me honky. Perhaps it is my thick redneck queen skin, but, sticks and stones, baby.

I do think pigeon-holing race into maids or gardeners is raciss (and I am talking about ole doddering Alex here, boys). But the rest is bs sometimes as there are such genteel peoples out their with their dainty feelings hanging out. Grow a pair.

Where is my ribbon? Where is my ChristyIsWhiteAsSnow month to educate who may be my son's father-in-law? This is an outrage!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Morons at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (baL2B)

254

244 -

 

Body language, duh. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (TOk1P)

255 Wait, are we actively insulting one another? I've had my list at ready five for EOJ and need confirmation to deploy. These include a Larry Fine AND a Marvin Kuntsler reference so I need to be sure.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (0Ng0w)

256 Look, the Party of Slavery--the Democrat Party--never, ever gave up on slavery.

They just retreated from widespread, direct and open support.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (VjL9S)

257 Hollow, you disgust me, every movie has ethnic humor. Ever see a Marx Bros movie? Every see any movie or TV show where somebody does a funny foreign accent - that's ethnic humor, buddy. But hey, keep accusing us of being racists. Ethnic humor is everywhere because it's funny. Because human differences are funny. Ethnic humor is a good thing. It helps people bond, it helps people see beyond differences and laugh at differences. But keep fucking that chicken, dude.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (ZPrif)

258 If we keep the French out, we'll be overrun with frogs and nutria.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (OZmbA)

259

You don't like getting your meat wet? O_O

Heh heh.  Heh heh heh heh.  Heh heh.

Posted by: Beavis at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (DrWcr)

260 If we don't allow immigration from the Philippines, who will shoot ping pong balls across the bar? How hard are Thai's to train?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 07:55 AM (xZxMD)

261 Why are you so eager to engage in "ethnic humor" ---- Most of the time I tell myself it's simple "Rabbit Season/Duck Season" reaction or similar---like when I convinced my kid that buttered spinach was "too rich for children". I hope that's all it is.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at February 27, 2014 07:56 AM (AQMFK)

262 They are a ruling class, which is incompatible in a system wherethe people are supposed to be free, and free people are governed, not ruled.

I think you're right (and I've written a lot on this) but I would also point out that this is all sort of inevitable, isn't it?
***
It isn't inevitable - the American system was designed to partition political power into various arenas and encourage people to hold on to their own jealously.

Obviously within the federal government we have the well noted checks and balances, but remember other power was reserved for the states, and even more so *most* of the political power in society was reserved for individuals and voluntary collective action which empowered businessmen, religious figures and the like.

The odd problem that we face is leftist ideology has convinced most of these power brokers to submit to a hierarchy collectively in return for getting to steal ever more from the productive class

Posted by: 18-1 at February 27, 2014 07:56 AM (P3U0f)

263 No Russian immigrants? Where will we get our high class hookers?

Posted by: Sphynx at February 27, 2014 07:56 AM (OZmbA)

264 It's Slate.  Dave Weigel is a loser and a hack.  This is only worth Ace's time for parody purposes.  hahahaha.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 27, 2014 07:56 AM (tVTLU)

265 Nobody can loathe Weigel quite like somebody who knows him. 

Just sayin'.  Not even his liberal 'friends' respect him -- at least when he's not around.  I think he would cry if he knew some of things they say about him -- these aren't his professional rivals, or people he's known to have beef with, these are the ones who otherwise he thinks he's tight with in DC.  It's brutal.

Sure, this was needlessly personal on my part.  But he's such a hack that I feel no guilt.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 27, 2014 07:57 AM (ewYO6)

266 "but I doubt I've moved the needle at all." You once stated your mission was to take down NBC. Their ratings slide and relegation to irrelevance a coincidence? I think not! But seriously, keeping the light on Anthony Weiner and the media almost completely on your own for awhile and the end result is difficult to ignore.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 27, 2014 07:57 AM (gBnkX)

267

253 -

 

Well, like my grandpappy always used to say, he liked his  wimmins the way he likes  his chili: 

 

 

 

 

 

Has beens. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 07:57 AM (TOk1P)

268 I think the better question is- Why are you so eager to engage in "ethnic humor"?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 11:51 AM (SY2Kh)

 

Because it's funny?  Look, there's a difference between being racist and simply remarking on racial differences.    We make fun of British teeth and   alleged Irish drunkenness,   so why can't we remark on the   fact that a lot of   Asians tend to be shorter than us, and   black     Americans    tend to use "motherfucker"  a lot?   Samuel    L.   Jackson has made a whole career out of the latter; it's not like it's some shameful secret.  It just   IS.

 

There is plenty of humor    to be found in our differences, be they ethnic, racial, gender-based,  age-related,    political,   what have you.     What there shouldn't be room for is cruelty.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 07:57 AM (4df7R)

269 Lucille Bluth in 2014! /winks

Posted by: Sean at February 27, 2014 07:57 AM (bAXJL)

270 Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Morons at February 27, 2014 11:55 AM (baL2B) I think that racism is a temptation like theft or violence, a temptation that we, as good people, should try to avoid.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 07:57 AM (Hx5uv)

271 Eenie meenie, chilie beanie, the spirits are about to speak...

Posted by: Bullwinkle at February 27, 2014 07:59 AM (aDwsi)

272 Sink supports ObamaCare, but campaigns on her support for Medicare and Social Security.  GOP hates Social Security is the theme song for the former bank executive.

Posted by: mrp at February 27, 2014 07:59 AM (JBggj)

273 How do mimes interview potential new mimes? Interpretive dance.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit[/i][/u][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 07:59 AM (0HooB)

274 145 Ace, It sort of misses the point on Frity Booty Delicious Bummersnatch's part about media hypocrisy but yeah. I mean I could be a racial saint like Dpike Lee and say "blacks moving into white suburbia pisses me off" but why would I? My black neighborkept his lawn mowed and was pleasant enough.... My white neighbor's dog shit in my yard b/c the neighbor never mowed. Point is I enjoy the casual charges of racism for wanting an immigration law laxer than Mexico's...it's invigorating...like my rage attack on Friday.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 07:59 AM (TE35l)

275 Look, the Party of Slavery--the Democrat Party--never, ever gave up on slavery.
***
The European noble class believed they had the right to take majority of a man's work and dictate the details of his life because, after all, they were nobles.

The modern Democrat party also believes they have the right to take majority of a man's work and dictate the details of his life because, after all, they are noble.

So the question is, how do *we* break out of serfdom?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 27, 2014 07:59 AM (P3U0f)

276 Ace, that's an awful lot of words to say "Dave Weigel is a twat waffle"

Posted by: fluffy at February 27, 2014 07:59 AM (Ua6T/)

277 Considering the Left controls the Media in America. The #1 supplier of ethnic humor is the Left. And that's fine. Cause ethnic humor is fine. Only retards think ethnic humor is inherently a bad thing.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 07:59 AM (ZPrif)

278 How do mimes interview potential new mimes? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 27, 2014 11:52 AM (4df7R) *** Great question. I was thinking of getting a large soundproof clear Plexiglas box, put the applicant inside and then just sit back and watch.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, president United Mime Workers local #555 at February 27, 2014 07:59 AM (g4TxM)

279 but I doubt I've moved the needle at all.

Incrementalism does work if you are actually consistently pushing in a direction even though it doesn't pass spell-check.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 07:59 AM (DL2i+)

280

I don't understand why so-called Texans get so hung up on this.

 

Beans IMPROVE chili. They improve the taste, and they improve the texture. Otherwise chili is just overwet meat.

 

 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 27, 2014 11:50 AM (TOk1P)

 

 

Bet you eat Zwieback toast too.  You like the taste and texture over "plain" toast. 

 

 

jk

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 27, 2014 08:00 AM (BAS5M)

281 There is plenty of humor to be found in our differences, be they ethnic, racial, gender-based, age-related, political, what have you. What there shouldn't be room for is cruelty. Posted by: MWR --------------- I suspect that there are some pretty great 'white people' jokes that I've never heard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 08:00 AM (aDwsi)

282 Where'a our goddamn rain?? We had a few showers in the middle of the night but the sun's been shining before dawnbreak. Weather forecasting is a joke.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 27, 2014 08:00 AM (6Nj7A)

283 >>
I mean I could be a racial saint like Dpike Lee and say "blacks moving into white suburbia pisses me off" but why would I?<<


I saw part of that interview. Spike got some questions he didn't really want to answer.  And some obvious questions went unasked.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 27, 2014 08:00 AM (OZmbA)

284 I still don't understand why businesses want these illegals to be legal.

Ditto, I think it's more about votes than jobs, and there are plenty of native US citizens around here working cash jobs for less than minimum wage.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 27, 2014 08:00 AM (kxSZr)

285

245: "If we don't allow immigration from the Philippines, who will shoot ping pong balls across the bar?"

 

My wife is from the Philippines. My oldest son was born there.  I'm also quite close with my in-laws.

 

All I can really say about this comment is....dick move homie.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) Est. 1836 at February 27, 2014 08:01 AM (LJpVo)

286 254?
Christy?

I've made the point, elsewhere, that most people are somewhat "racist," i.e., they favor the group they belong to more than others. That is all....

Posted by: backhoe at February 27, 2014 08:01 AM (ULH4o)

287 I suspect that there are some pretty great 'white people' jokes that I've never heard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 12:00 PM (aDwsi)



Have you seen "Stuff White People Like"?


LOL!

Posted by: EC at February 27, 2014 08:01 AM (GQ8sn)

288 I suspect that there are some pretty great 'white people' jokes that I've never heard.

 

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 12:00 PM (aDwsi)

 

 

You ever notice how white people are all, "I say, Fifi, isn't this escargot to die for?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 08:01 AM (4df7R)

289 >>>I don't know what happened thereafter, but I think there was some objection from conservatives that Weigel was a liberal. So once again the media had a liberal covering liberals, and to be consistent about it, a liberal covering conservatives. Posted by: ace he got caught calling the republicans or tea party ratfuckers in a journolist secret email

Posted by: X at February 27, 2014 08:02 AM (KHo8t)

290 Great question. I was thinking of getting a large soundproof clear Plexiglas box, put the applicant inside and then just sit back and watch. Air holes or all they will be doing is an impression of a stiff.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 08:02 AM (xZxMD)

291 You ever notice how white people are all, "I say, Fifi, isn't this escargot to die for?"
***
No fair quoting John Kerry!

Posted by: 18-1 at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (P3U0f)

292 >>So, journalists at a journalism award presentation were told not to engage in journalism.

Were they allowed to ask Ronan how he managed to win a journalism award after 3 days on air at MSNBC?  I mean, that beat Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize after only 2 weeks in office.
I'd really like to hear the answer to that one more than the Woody dirt.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (aq/zi)

293 I saw Overwet Meat open for The Circle Jerks in LA in '86

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (32Ze2)

294 Ever seen a honky that can dance?


Me neither.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (OZmbA)

295 Actually, if I'm being honest with you all...I hate chili.

Posted by: DangerGirl

Maybe try putting some beans in it... **snicker**

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (fk1A8)

296 Ace, that's an awful lot of words to say "Dave Weigel is a twat waffle" And there's the summary of the summary!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (xZxMD)

297 Here's a question:   why do all makeup brands assume that "ivory" means "makes     pale white people look orange?"    I   am white as    Casper the ghost, but every brand of makeup I try    makes me look like John Boehner, no matter how light the shade.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (4df7R)

298 Does Hollowpoint like Southpark?


Posted by: EC at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (GQ8sn)

299 Ahem. Lemme keep hammering away at my attempts to get this adopted as the official HQ imagery to be used at times like these: http://bit.ly/1gF3SNg That's exactly what's going on here not to mention the converse once you decide someone is holy and pure, everything they do is awesome. Everything the Republicans do is racist and evil. Nothing the Democrats do is wrong in any possible way. It's beyond banal and into Platonic levels of boring.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 27, 2014 08:03 AM (VtjlW)

300 237 Dack Thrombosis, We moved the needle bud. We got Rather, that's why the press closed ranks and went full 'tard for Obama. The GOP refuses to back our bird dogging ethical malpractice b/c they are in on the gag or they are too lazy and weak to fight the bastards. If it's ok for Michigan Donkey to threaten licenses it is ok for the GOP.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 08:04 AM (TE35l)

301 Almost makes me wish I could go BACK to living in Dave Weigel's bubble.

Reagan was the cause of all the world's ills (because I paid no attention to Congress). Rich people sucked (because I wasn't one of them). No one questioned Walter Cronkite's wisdom (because no one was allowed to)...

Life was so much simpler then.

Posted by: goy at February 27, 2014 08:04 AM (oGez1)

302 Coming this fall, on BBC America, Ace O'Spades is "The Incrementalist".

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 27, 2014 08:04 AM (g4TxM)

303 No fair quoting John Kerry!

Posted by: 18-1 at February 27, 2014 12:03 PM (P3U0f)

 

You ahve to admit,    he is   MADDENINGLY white.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 27, 2014 08:04 AM (4df7R)

304 Ah, words. We should all be so aware of our speech. IOWA CITY (AP) - The University of Iowa president has apologized for a remark she made to the student newspaper about sex assaults on campus. In an interview published Feb. 18 in The Daily Iowan, President Sally Mason said she was dismayed by the reports of sexual assaults. She said "the goal would be to end that, to never have another sexual assault. That's probably not a realistic goal just given human nature, and that's unfortunate. ..." Criticism erupted over the phrase that includes "human nature." The Iowa City Press-Citizen says Mason apologized during a President's Forum on Tuesday. Mason said she's been told by several people in the campus community that her remark was hurtful. She said she was "very, very sorry for any pain that my words might have caused." Copyright 2014 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Posted by: Jen at February 27, 2014 08:04 AM (XkXzn)

305 Ever seen a honky that can dance? Saturday Night Fever - John Travolta.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 08:04 AM (xZxMD)

306

ace (and the others who commented on my comment):  don't misunderstand, I am not dismissing what you do - of course - maybe I am just much further along the road to resignation, and my prior personal experience (lots of direct exposure to all the pathologies documented by ace) leaves me without any feeling that productive resistance is feasible.

 

Favorite/discouraging exercise was to fisk a NYT article, live impromptu, in front of a friend's college class.  Have a student pick any "news" item they want, then go line by line fisking/debunking it, showing the false framework, the dubious or flawed assumptions.  Of course some articles work better than others - impact was from the fact that a randomly chosen article could be substantially fisked right there on the spot by someone with a background and analytical mindset. 

 

Of course still not many lights switching on in those classes.  The veterans just shake their heads and smirk, as they already get it.  Some horrified looks (like I was torturing a kitten in front of them).  A few benefited - usually the same ones who were already dropping by my friend's office hours, and sheepishly and somewhat nervously telling him he was the first professor they'd had (juniors and seniors) who was actually an expert, not a political hack, and the first one to challenge them to think critically (he teaches foreign policy/nat. security classes at a large public university in a big state).

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 08:04 AM (afQnV)

307 he got caught calling the republicans or tea party ratfuckers in a journolist secret email
***
Isn't it interesting that most conservative "conspiracy theories", like say journolist, the IRS targeting conservatives, etc end up being true whereas most leftwing "conspiracy theories" like say Bush planning 9/11, Republicans bringing back the draft, etc end up being false?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (P3U0f)

308

RickB:  Exactly.  We could do this in one line w/ mathematical symobls

 

Slate/Weigel + all other Slate writers = twat waffle.

 

Next!!

Posted by: prescient11 at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (tVTLU)

309 Have you seen "Stuff White People Like"?

That's actually aimed more at the New Class NPR-listening kind of white people, some of whom may not actually be white.

The best part is that the New Class doesn't realize it's making fun of them, in much the same way that Mike Judge once screened "Beavis and Butthead" for the two kids who inspired it and they didn't recognize themselves.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (B/VB5)

310 What there shouldn't be room for is cruelty.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 27, 2014 11:57 AM (4df7R)


----


.... winner winner chicken dinner.



Posted by: fixerupper at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (nELVU)

311 237 Has Ace moved the needle against the MSM? Respectfully, I don't really think so. I don't think anyone has actually. Dack Thrombosis I disagree. See, for example, Gallup poll showing over 20% decline in trust for MSM over the years. High of 72% (1976) to 44% now. And it went from a positive 46% (trust v. don't trust) to now negative 11%. A lot of that is due to MSM missteps, fraud, etc., but the steady drumbeat showing bias has moved the needle, IMHO. http://tinyurl.com/n6cq4u7

Posted by: duke at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (d3clc)

312 How do mimes interview potential new mimes?

The same way actresses get interviewed for a part.

Posted by: Mega at February 27, 2014 08:05 AM (hHFOx)

313 nood

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 27, 2014 08:06 AM (fk1A8)

314

 Ever seen a honky that can dance?

 

 

Vanilla Ice. 

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 27, 2014 08:06 AM (BAS5M)

315 @301 - [sven1077] - " The GOP refuses to back our bird dogging ethical malpractice b/c they are in on the gag or they are too lazy and weak to fight the bastards. "

These two are far from mutually exclusive.

Posted by: goy at February 27, 2014 08:06 AM (oGez1)

316 That's probably not a realistic goal just given human nature, and that's unfortunate. .
***
Violent crime has been a feature of humanity since there has been humanity.

Ideally we can reduce its incidence but human beings are not angels...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 27, 2014 08:07 AM (P3U0f)

317 Has Ace moved the needle against the MSM?

Respectfully, I don't really think so.

Ask Anthony Weiner if something moved.

Granted, Ace had the substantial help of Breitbart on that, but I remember the commenters complaining at the time that Ace should give up because nothing bad would happen to a Democrat.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 27, 2014 08:07 AM (B/VB5)

318


Criticism erupted over the phrase that includes "human nature."

 

 

Well, that's just flat-out speciesism.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 27, 2014 08:07 AM (A0sHn)

319 I still don't understand why businesses want these illegals to be legal. They don't. Amnesty or no amnesty, they want a steady supply of off-the-books illegals. If they have to support amnesty to support Democrats who keep them supplied, so be it. (The same Democrats who created the regulatory structure that creates the crushing need for illegals)

Posted by: t-bird at February 27, 2014 08:08 AM (FcR7P)

320 Criticism erupted over the phrase that includes "human nature."

Yup.  Good ol' pinko U of Iowa.  Humans are perfectable, if you just get the right totalitarian structure in place.

Posted by: HR #NukeIowaCity at February 27, 2014 08:08 AM (ZKzrr)

321 IOWA CITY (AP) - The University of Iowa president has apologized for a remark she made to the student newspaper about sex assaults on campus. - Because a statement should be judged by whether it is hurtful and, if so, to whom rather than whether it is true.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 08:08 AM (Hx5uv)

322 Ethnic humor is everywhere because it's funny. Because human differences are funny. Ethnic humor is a good thing. It helps people bond, it helps people see beyond differences and laugh at differences. Except when used around here it's almost never funny. Mel Brooks you ain't. Instead we see people constantly testing the waters to see exactly how much racism they can get away with. Of course they'll insist it wasn't really meant to be racist, they were just joking- but if it's in no way funny and in no way makes any relevant point, what was the motivation for making the comment? Sorry, but you don't get to complain about a double standard when it comes to racism while also engaging in racism. It doesn't matter that the other side gets away with it. Not even a little. And let's not forget the other dumb argument- "The MSM is going to paint us as racists no matter what we do, so why not just let our freak flag fly?"

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 08:08 AM (SY2Kh)

323 271 Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Morons at February 27, 2014 11:55 AM (baL2B)

I think that racism is a temptation like theft or violence, a temptation that we, as good people, should try to avoid.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 11:57 AM (Hx5uv)


Racism has progressed, in the South, since the 60's. Sure it exists. So does polio, which should have been eradicated but some dopy people don't believe in vaccinations. Some dopy people also think their race is superior to others. I don't care if you are white, black, brown or purple if you are a nice person.


If you are white and act like a thug, I treat  you like a thug by ignoring your thuggy self (should I be an employer who is not overly fond of big ole lip chains to your ears and your baggy pants).


Then the future Dr. Ben Carson comes into my office, applying for the same job. Who do you think I will hire? hmmm? Oh, Alex, this is not for my maid or gardener, it is for an executive position representing my company in sales.


It is all so sad, boring and a carry over from the 60's, when there really, really was racial discrimination until laws changed all that with affirmative action and everyone can go to the same schools and drink from the same water fountains! Give me a break. Racism exists for those who put it under the microscope. Alex Sink spoke stupidly, which Baroque does daily. This is the media covering for her mis-speak...but sometimes the truth is revealed in those mis-speaks and a gotcha moment is born. She did pigeon-hole immigrants in her mis-speak reveal. Whether that makes her racist or not, I do not care. Didn't Bill Clinton himself state that the great Baroque should be fetching his coffee? Again, rare moments of true thought sometimes bubble to the surface like pus.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Morons at February 27, 2014 08:09 AM (baL2B)

324 252 If we don't allow the Irish to immigrate all the bars will close. Posted by: Sphynx at February 27, 2014 11:55 AM (OZmbA) HA!

Posted by: Seems legit at February 27, 2014 08:09 AM (A98Xu)

325 Suck it, whitey.
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/28/101-being-offended/

Posted by: irright at February 27, 2014 08:09 AM (pMGkg)

326 277 Ace, that's an awful lot of words to say "Dave Weigel is a twat waffle"277 Ace, that's an awful lot of words to say "Dave Weigel is a twat waffle" --- A blue twat waffle at that. Do yourself a favor and don't google "blue waffle".

Posted by: Schmuck Bait at February 27, 2014 08:09 AM (/Crba)

327 So Christy Blinky is an aging supermodel? Is she really Christy Brinkley? Loved her SI swimsuit pics as a boy. Got some use out of those. She's one of those beauties you never forget. Saw her recently on a magazine cover and threw her a nostalgia jack.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2014 08:10 AM (Vlq2M)

328 Posted by: Jen at February 27, 2014 12:04 PM (XkXzn) Howsthatnow? The worst I can muster is "human nature" implies that we're wired to be evil. But even then I'm overly parsing in an attempt to find controversy. Please tell me people aren't mad because she didn't say "Male nature."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 27, 2014 08:10 AM (hq5sb)

329 Because a statement should be judged by whether it is hurtful and, if so, to whom rather than whether it is true.

She hurt the feelings of rapists.  At a school that routinely covers up rapes for the greater glory of their athletic teams.

Posted by: HR #NukeIowaCity at February 27, 2014 08:10 AM (ZKzrr)

330 And let's not forget the other dumb argument- "The MSM is going to paint us as racists no matter what we do, so why not just let our freak flag fly?" Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 12:08 PM (SY2Kh) Who exactly is making this argument? In fact no matter what we say we will be painted as racists, next up, sexism.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 27, 2014 08:11 AM (A98Xu)

331 A lot of that is due to MSM missteps, fraud, etc., but the steady drumbeat showing bias has moved the needle, IMHO.
***
I disagree. The media is more influential, and most leftist, then at any time in the past. Want a concrete example? Look at "gay marriage".

If you asked an American if a man should be able to marry a man in say 1992 you would have been laughed at...even among homosexuals.

But some time in the mid 90s the state media decided homosexuality was the new black, and in the mid-2000s they decided that "gay marriage" was a fundamental right.

And now we see a position that had single digit support somewhere around 50% and growing.

So yes, people do know the State Media and its entertainment complex lies to them...but they still absorb the bulk of its propaganda.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 27, 2014 08:11 AM (P3U0f)

332 So, is it wrong to laugh when watching Chris Rock's "How not to get your ass kicked by the police" video?

Posted by: mrp at February 27, 2014 08:12 AM (JBggj)

333 Huckabee needs to go back to his home on Evangelical Prude Island.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 27, 2014 08:14 AM (9eDbm)

334 The word from Dodge City is that chili without beans or tomatoes is just stew meat for Texas hobos.

Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2014 08:15 AM (UzPAd)

335 328 So Christy Blinky is an aging supermodel? Is she really Christy Brinkley? Loved her SI swimsuit pics as a boy. Got some use out of those.

She's one of those beauties you never forget. Saw her recently on a magazine cover and threw her a nostalgia jack.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 27, 2014 12:10 PM (Vlq2M)


I am her twin, darlin.' Treat me nice. While I don't have her chef, her mansion on the Sound, her ex-husband's alimony, her dermatologist or plastic surgeon or coconut milk on hand, nor her exercise trainer, le old facial adipose is holding up well and I could give her a run for her money on good days. Maybe not in a swimsuit...but the panty hose she is wearing sure does help...so maybe I could give her a run for the roses.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Morons at February 27, 2014 08:16 AM (baL2B)

336 333 So, is it wrong to laugh when watching Chris Rock's "How not to get your ass kicked by the police" video?

Posted by: mrp at February 27, 2014 12:12 PM (JBggj)


No.


His video on getting diarrhea and finding a bathroom for blacks is classic. I have no idea what the title is, but my son had me watch it as we are weird and raciss.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Judge of Raciss Morons at February 27, 2014 08:18 AM (baL2B)

337 Hollow, you continue being a horrible, disgusting person. You are a humorless prude looking to take offense. Your opinion doesn't matter.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 08:18 AM (ZPrif)

338 @328 I suppose "throwing a jack" is the solo version of a "shot".

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 27, 2014 08:19 AM (9eDbm)

339 How many WASPs does it take to change a light bulb? Two. One to change the bulb and the other to mix the martinis.

Posted by: Wayne Storm at February 27, 2014 08:19 AM (DAevm)

340 Ha. I had never seen the Chris Rock "How to not get your ass kicked by the Police". Just watched on YouTube, pretty funny.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 08:19 AM (ZshNr)

341 Let us not forget "Binders of Women".

Oh, the horror!

Posted by: oscar meyer at February 27, 2014 08:23 AM (+kafi)

342 >>>Dick move homie. Lighten up, Francis

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 27, 2014 08:23 AM (GYA+Y)

343 Hollow, you continue being a horrible, disgusting person. You are a humorless prude looking to take offense. Your opinion doesn't matter And you continue to be just plain dumb.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 08:37 AM (SY2Kh)

344 I just want to put some of you people around here on notice that you haven't been offending me enough. Just plain slacking off! Safe as milk! No effort put forth!

So get to it! Chop-chop, dig? This blood pressure isn't gonna raise itself!



Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at February 27, 2014 08:41 AM (DLu2s)

345 Ahem. Lemme keep hammering away at my attempts to get this adopted as the official HQ imagery to be used at times like these:

http://bit.ly/1gF3SNg

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 27, 2014 12:03 PM (VtjlW)

Seconded.

Posted by: physics geek at February 27, 2014 08:42 AM (MT22W)

346 A tracker in his pajama's I'm sure.

Further evidence that the Republicans are pussies - why didn't a mysteriously well funded Latino make an announcement today that they were running as Independent in that race, and in every race across Florida, yesterday.

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 08:43 AM (4JkHl)

347 You people should have just kept it highbrow ... like me ... and stuck with subhuman mongrel untermenschen .... but NO.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 27, 2014 08:54 AM (F2BKh)

348 >>>ace (and the others who commented on my comment): don't misunderstand, I am not dismissing what you do - of course - maybe I am just much further along the road to resignation, and my prior personal experience (lots of direct exposure to all the pathologies documented by ace) leaves me without any feeling that productive resistance is feasible. gotcha, I wasn't offended, I know what you're saying. I was just trying to say something like this: "Even if you're right, I still must write what I believe to be the truth, right?" Even if futile, the truth is still worth speaking.

Posted by: ace at February 27, 2014 09:05 AM (/FnUH)

349 >>>Hollow, you continue being a horrible, disgusting person. You are a humorless prude looking to take offense. Your opinion doesn't matter. Flatbush, Seriously, it's not funny. It hasn't been funny since before All in the Family. Hollowpoint is not the outlier here. If you want to be an outlier -- and you have every right to be the drummer marching alone -- that is fine, but you continue to mix your insistence on the value of this crap with the claim that this shit still plays. It does not. Update. It's not just on the left that this doesn't play; it doesn't play on the great majority of the right, either.

Posted by: ace at February 27, 2014 09:07 AM (/FnUH)

350 I guess Latinos are higher on Obama's list than Blacks.  Sorry about that.

Posted by: Dan Rather at February 27, 2014 09:08 AM (1+kJ5)

351 Oh come on now, we gots plenty of other coloureds.

Posted by: Fatty Arbuckle, whore-slayer at February 27, 2014 10:32 AM (x60m8)

352 "Has an actual black person used the word 'honky' anywhere since the 1970s?"  I believe the expression, as brought to us by Rudy Ray Miller in the Shakespearean delight "Dolemite", was "You ketchup eatin, barn door slamming honky mother f*".

Posted by: Fatty Arbuckle, whore-slayer at February 27, 2014 10:35 AM (x60m8)

353 "Where are you going to get people to work to clean our hotel rooms or do our landscaping?"


I just landscaped my own toilet by making a little island in it.

Posted by: Dang at February 27, 2014 10:51 AM (MNq6o)

354 This headline proves the hidden truth revealed by a nasty slogan hurled at the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD). Maybe 30 years ago, because they flatly refused (even after a countering state voter initiative a decade later) to teach classes in English, people like me would say
"LAUSD: Guaranteeing our future supply of maids and gardeners."

More than one School board member would act insulted.

Here it is all these years later, and at least one Democrat is admitting it was damnably true.

Posted by: pascal at February 27, 2014 11:41 AM (PKiPV)

355 @ace You silly cousin-humpin' redneck. The difference with Perry is that he was a Democrat when the offensive rock was still crushing people's feelings. It was painted over at some time and then Perry became a Republican and the rock, get this, still exists. Ergo, he's a racist!

Posted by: Ken in NH at February 27, 2014 11:49 AM (MqjGP)

356 Look at my sig for my personal test on whether the media is biased in any particular instance.

Posted by: What if Sarah Palin did it? at February 27, 2014 01:15 PM (gen/T)

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