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February 14, 2014

Democratic Congressional Candidate: It's Very Exciting That Obamacare Gives People More Freedom and More Choice to Not Work
— Ace

Via JammieWF, the Free Beacon picked up this story from the Tampa Bay Something Something Newspaper.

The candidate is Alex Sink, a Congressional candidate for Florida's 13th District. CAC mentioned her in the podcast, but I think I was putting up that Temporary ONT when he was talking about her.

Â“We had this CBO report that predicted that the workforce would shrink as a result of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) as people chose to cut back on their working hours so they qualify for healthcare assistance. What was your reaction to this? Is that a devastating effect of Obamacare?Â” the interviewer asked her.
Sink cheerily responded: Â“Oh absolutely notÂ…Actually itÂ’s kind of an exciting prospect.Â”

It sure is. It sure is.

Do the voters agree this is all very exciting?

Gallup: Obama approval with independents dropped to 33%, Hispanics down to 48%, and even the 18-29 year olds dropped to 47%.
— Josh Jordan (@NumbersMuncher) February 14, 2014

Posted by: Ace at 09:25 AM | Comments (225)
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1 Spin, baby, spin!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2014 09:27 AM (o9Rp5)

2 Someone go get Willow.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2014 09:27 AM (o9Rp5)

3 You know, they could have made this argument before passing the ACA into law.

That they didn't is evidence that what they're all saying now is ad hoc bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Cromwell at February 14, 2014 09:28 AM (nnkXw)

4 sock off

Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 14, 2014 09:28 AM (nnkXw)

5 The utter tone deafness of these people is....I wish I could say Unbelievable...but with Obama the unbelievable has become.. commonplace, so I'll say just terribly sad. Does she not know anyone in real life who has had their hours cut and if so does she think they're celebrating?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 14, 2014 09:29 AM (XyM/Y)

6 We're hurtling into a dystopia.

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 14, 2014 09:29 AM (6H6o8)

7 I'd be real excited if this dumb scrunt was unemployed, so yeah, maybe she has a point.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 14, 2014 09:29 AM (fk1A8)

8 That's no moon.

Posted by: toby wan kenobi at February 14, 2014 09:29 AM (QupBk)

9
Old and Busted: If you like your plan you can keep plan.

New Hawtness: You're fired..... but... its a GOOD thing.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 14, 2014 09:30 AM (nELVU)

10 http://news.msn.com/us/court-overturns-concealed-carry-gun-rule-in-calif?ocid=ansnews11

Off topic. But for ONCE the good guys seem to be winning!

Posted by: Mehow at February 14, 2014 09:30 AM (2bVKF)

11 we've went through the looking glass. Lewis Carroll could not have done a better job than our overlords.

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2014 09:30 AM (YEQ2h)

12 They simply cannot physically acknowledge the failure or tell the truth.

Cannot.

Reality is completely different for them. Psychopaths.

Posted by: grognard at February 14, 2014 09:30 AM (/29Nl)

13 So they floated the talking point, and now the candidates are actually using it. Did their polls actually tell them the initial talking points had resonance?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 14, 2014 09:31 AM (TGgNi)

14 Does she not know anyone in real life who has had their hours cut and if so does she think they're celebrating? Sink needs to find out personally about how fun cut hours are....

Posted by: rickb223 at February 14, 2014 09:31 AM (GjYxB)

15 In her perfect world where what she says is true there is still a problem.

It's my fucking money subsidizing that decision.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 14, 2014 09:31 AM (tf9Ne)

16 Oh sure my hours got cut and I now can't pay my bills or feed my family, but at least I have coverage! Well, except for the part about not being able to afford the high premiums on account of my hours being cut.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2014 09:31 AM (o9Rp5)

17 I'm perfectly willing to let her spend more time with her family.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 14, 2014 09:32 AM (XUKZU)

18 So they floated the talking point, and now the candidates are actually using it. Did their polls actually tell them the initial talking points had resonance?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 14, 2014 01:31 PM (TGgNi)

Impossible, but when all lines of bullshit are bad, you use the one that sucks the least, and doesn't require you to admit failure.

Posted by: grognard at February 14, 2014 09:32 AM (/29Nl)

19 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 09:32 AM (PYAXX)

20 More good news for Sink is coming on February 21st. That would be the day the government releases the new Medicare Advantage rates which will have big cuts thanks to Obamacare. Sink be sunk.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2014 09:32 AM (g1DWB)

21 So, I have to pay more in taxes so that some slacker can get unlocked from his job, sit in him Mom's basement and pretend that he's the next Curt Cobain or Justin Beiber and I get to pay for his medical care. Great, just fucking great. And I'm a racist for pointing this out.
*head-desk head-desk head-desk*

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 14, 2014 09:33 AM (5npD/)

22 In the inimitable words of one moron, unemployment is the engine that drives our economy. Who knew? Re Cadillac ad. Isn't that a guy who was in Band of Brothers?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 14, 2014 09:33 AM (aDwsi)

23 Why are th Democrats so cheerful at the prospect of people not working? I mean that kind of population problem led to the Russian Revolution and the rise of Hitler and the Nazi Party....oh....

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 14, 2014 09:33 AM (RZ8pf)

24 Oh sure my hours got cut and I now can't pay my bills or feed my family, but at least I have coverage! Well, except for the part about not being able to afford the high premiums on account of my hours being cut.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2014 01:31 PM (o9Rp5)

Oh stop your whining. You haven't even gotten to the whole $6,250 deductible part yet.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 09:34 AM (Gk3SS)

25 You know the plan is to make the situation as intolerable as possible in order to usher in single payer which will - seem - far better to the LIV's.....

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2014 09:34 AM (YEQ2h)

26 we've went through the looking glass. Lewis Carroll could not have done a better job than our overlords.

-

Dorothy: Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.

Toto: Shut up, bitch, and sign me up for Obamacare.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 14, 2014 09:34 AM (XUKZU)

27 Yay- they are now free to "Lead and Innovate"Â™.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:34 AM (g4TxM)

28 Yes, it's exciting that ever more people will be on the dole. Of course, "exciting" does not mean "good." A WAR is exciting.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 09:35 AM (PYAXX)

29 For the slackers who get free stuff, it is kind of exciting. So, the question is, are there enough of them to get this woman elected. I am not sure I like thinking about that....

Posted by: Scanner Dan at February 14, 2014 09:36 AM (Dm8Bg)

30 I've had enough. I say we make AtC the Empress God of America and let her work her will. If we're going to have a monarch, I want one I can trust.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 14, 2014 09:36 AM (5npD/)

31 Alex, you ignorant slut

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 14, 2014 09:36 AM (R8hU8)

32 She's saying this while campaigning for a job.
I hope the voters choose to liberate her from from the apparent burden of a full-time job in Congress.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 14, 2014 09:36 AM (POpqt)

33 I've had enough. I say we make AtC the Empress God of America and let her work her will. If we're going to have a monarch, I want one I can trust. Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 14, 2014 01:36 PM (5npD/) She already is

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 14, 2014 09:37 AM (R8hU8)

34 Serious question, how many of these people who are so successful and in demand that they can't leave their current job because nobody will offer them a new job with health insurance are going to be the person to innovate some new breakthrough technology?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2014 09:37 AM (g1DWB)

35 But, then, they can't say it's bad, because if they do Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, or some other Republican with some stones (I know that's a vanishingly small number) will start saying, "Well, if you agree that it's bad, how about we repeal the whole thing?"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 09:37 AM (PYAXX)

36 Ahem. FUCK YOU NORM DANIELS. You know this entire thing is crazy nutjobery. Can't quit to start a business because you're afraid of losing insurance. I feel for you, I really do. But that's called a "risk calculation." And I don't blame you for playing it safe. Had I played it safe 4 years back I'd probably be still cutting open mice, which, while that sounds like a complaint, would have left me EMPLOYED. I took a risk and it's kinda half paying off, half biting me in the ass. Such is life. Why should the government subsidize your risk taking? Oh right, because Progressives and "Harry Potter." Also, FUCK YOU JK ROWLING, you're the weird anecdote that makes these people believe this shit.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 09:37 AM (GaqMa)

37 I'm starting to think these people are just making it up as they go...

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2014 09:37 AM (o9Rp5)

38 I've had enough. I say we make AtC the Empress God of America and let her work her will. If we're going to have a monarch, I want one I can trust.
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 14, 2014 01:36 PM (5npD/)

That's right, you can trust that I shall be benevolentish. Oh, yes, I shall.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 09:37 AM (Gk3SS)

39 All Dims must have one of those brain-ports like they had in the Matrix movies that injects talking points directly into their cortex. They never, ever question anything that comes from DNC HQ. Never.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 14, 2014 09:37 AM (0HooB)

40 It's just part and parcel of what I believe the Obama agenda has been all along. Don't make the tide rise, even an inch. If it drops, fine. Obama's appeal was to a segment of society that feels left out of every economic expansion. He's going to make sure they don't feel left out, and Uncle Sammy will there with a check for them.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 14, 2014 09:37 AM (CnA98)

41 Well, I'm sure as FUCK just pleased as punch that all overtime has been cut for the past FOUR FUCKING YEARS. And hey, this four-year wage freeze (while the cost of EVERYTHING keeps going up) has been a real blast too. Gee, if only I could just get fired outright, then I'd REALLY be livin' the life of Riley. Fucktard Progs.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 14, 2014 09:37 AM (7ObY1)

42 Sidebar -- Imagine if a nuclear bomb saved the Earth. How ironic would that be? Back on topic Obama sucks goat ass.

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2014 09:38 AM (Hy7dS)

43 A WAR is exciting.>>

I Love the smell of Napalm in the morning.

Posted by: Colonel Kilgore at February 14, 2014 09:38 AM (tf9Ne)

44
I do not understand todays "discourse" from the left.

Used to be .... a debate on the issues was point-counterpoint. You made you points back and forth on an issue.

But today..... every "point" has to be dismissed. No point can be made by the right. The left will go to ridiculous lengths to dismiss an argument.

"The ACA will cost jobs"

Instead of rebutting that with "but in the long run.... XYZ will happen" or "but in exchange for a few jobs in X sector, Y sector will flourish" they trot out some imbecilitic "Well...... people losing their jobs is a GOOD thing".

They debate like five year olds. **facepalm**

Posted by: fixerupper at February 14, 2014 09:38 AM (nELVU)

45 25 You know the plan is to make the situation as intolerable as possible in order to usher in single payer... *** Single payer => single provider. (Literally! His name is Khalil Subramanian, he is a physician's assistant, he got his training in Thailand, he speaks three languages, none of which is English, and his next available appointment is January 14th, 2024 at 1:00 PM. Don't be late)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:38 AM (g4TxM)

46 25 You know the plan is to make the situation as intolerable as possible in order to usher in single payer... *** Single payer => single provider. (Literally! His name is Khalil Subramanian, he is a physician's assistant, he got his training in Thailand, he speaks three languages, none of which is English, and his next available appointment is January 14th, 2024 at 1:00 PM. Don't be late)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:38 AM (g4TxM)

47 You know the plan is to make the situation as intolerable as possible in order to usher in single payer which will - seem - far better to the LIV's.....

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2014 01:34 PM (YEQ2h)

When this happens, repeat this: "The government has already been weaponized, for the exclusive use of the party in power. It no longer exists to serve the people, but to serve the whims of power brokers. It simply cannot be trusted with the biggest weapon of them all."

It's a thin hope, but the only argument that stands a chance of stopping it.

Posted by: grognard at February 14, 2014 09:39 AM (/29Nl)

48 Toilet paper is a tool of capitalist imperialism, comrade.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 14, 2014 09:39 AM (T0NGe)

49 Pixy made me do it. Sorry.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:39 AM (g4TxM)

50 Well, now this Obamacare liberation from jobs thing is truly exciting beyond belief! What a good thing these Dimcraps have done! But didn't welfare do that before? And food stamps? And subsidized housing? And look! We have millions and millions of people "liberated" from working already! And isn't Obamacare "liberating" many jobs right out of America? And other jobs are being "liberated" into part time! And other jobs are being "liberated" into ether as though they never existed. And people's brains are being "liberated" into mush. And people's ethics are being "liberated" into never-never land of unicorns and rainbows.

How totally, totally exciting for us all. *sigh*

Posted by: HowExciting! at February 14, 2014 09:39 AM (LkqST)

51 The voters in Florida in that district should let her that they disagree with her POV. Did anyone in the media think to ask her why people having their hours cut is a good thing?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 14, 2014 09:39 AM (XyM/Y)

52 @ Mike Hammer - his name's Neil McDonough. He's had a pretty good career for an actor, mostly on TV:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0568180/?ref_=tt_cl_t18

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 14, 2014 09:40 AM (HubSo)

53 That's right, you can trust that I shall be benevolentish. Oh, yes, I shall. Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 01:37 PM (Gk3SS) Benoviolent perhaps. I like that portmanteau better.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 09:40 AM (GaqMa)

Â“Our people look for a cause to believe in,Â” Gov. Ronald Reagan told a crowd of disillusioned conservatives gathered in Washington in March 1975 Â— 39 years ago next month. Â“Is it a third party we need, or is it a new and revitalized second party, raising a banner of no pale pastels, but bold colors which make it unmistakably clear where we stand on all of the issues troubling the people?Â”

(h/t Daily Caller)

There's a reason why Reagan won landslides and 3 terms. That's right I said 3, GHWB was just his fucking stand in.

STAND AND FIGHT!!! We must focus on Obamacare. The real fight will be the debt ceiling. We'll do everything we can to stop obamacare.

These are FUCKING LIES. Straight out of the GOPe's mouth. Are we insane? Or perhaps we should place actual fucking conservatives, you know, the highest identified group in the country, in charge of this fucking party once more.

Or are we still concerned with the freedom to buttfuck in public parks?

Posted by: prescient11 at February 14, 2014 09:40 AM (tVTLU)

55 52 Sorry, Neal McDonough

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 14, 2014 09:40 AM (HubSo)

56 That's right, you can trust that I shall be benevolentish. Oh, yes, I shall.

=========

Benevolent? I was late with your tea once and you turned me into a newt.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 14, 2014 09:40 AM (o9Rp5)

57 Posted by: fixerupper at February 14, 2014 01:38 PM (nELVU) 1- They lose on the facts, and they know it. 2- If they're constantly rejecting (rather than rebutting or refuting) your points, they don't have to come up with any of their own for you to rebut or refute.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 09:40 AM (PYAXX)

58
What really turns me on are guys in their thirties who still live in their Mom's basement.

Posted by: Evil Kate Upton at February 14, 2014 09:41 AM (bkTIc)

59 Benoviolent perhaps.
I like that portmanteau better. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 01:40 PM (GaqMa)

Oh pish posh. Just a little bit. Tiny bit. Barely noticeable.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 09:41 AM (Gk3SS)

60 Serious question, how many of these people who are so successful and in demand that they can't leave their current job because nobody will offer them a new job with health insurance are going to be the person to innovate some new breakthrough technology? >>> I have a better question: so if yo leave your job because you can now get health insurance on your own., i.e., you have a pre-existing condition that was forcing you to stay in your jobs health insurance pool, HOW DO YOU NOW AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE WHEN YOU JUST LOST YOUR MAIN SOURCE OF INCOME?!?!

Posted by: taylork at February 14, 2014 09:41 AM (BDss3)

61 Did anyone in the media think to ask her why people having their hours cut is a good thing? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 14, 2014 01:39 PM (XyM/Y) Emotivism, that's why. We feel bad for the people stuck in dead end jobs, so we feel compelled to do something about it. Never once considering that what we're doing is actually immoral. Emote, Emote, Emote. That's it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 09:41 AM (GaqMa)

62 404care is expanding your leisure time horizons.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 14, 2014 09:42 AM (R8hU8)

63 oooh portmanteau. Fancy schmancy.

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2014 09:42 AM (Hy7dS)

64 >>Oh pish posh. Just a little bit. Tiny bit. Barely noticeable. I believe the word you are looking for is smidgen.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2014 09:42 AM (g1DWB)

65 They simply cannot physically acknowledge the failure or tell the truth. Cannot. Reality is completely different for them. Psychopaths. No. Religious zealots.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 14, 2014 09:42 AM (T0NGe)

66 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 01:40 PM (PYAXX)

----

Like I said.....five year olds.....

Posted by: fixerupper at February 14, 2014 09:42 AM (nELVU)

67 Other places that have loads of people not working fulltime: Haiti, Somalia, Detroit...

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 14, 2014 09:43 AM (659DL)

68
Alex Sink

Her maternal great-grandfather was Chang Bunker, one of the famous conjoined "Siamese Twins" Chang and Eng Bunker.

?!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 14, 2014 09:43 AM (kdS6q)

69 Everyone knows the real American Dream is not working, sitting at home and collecting SSDI while watching daytime tv.

Posted by: brak at February 14, 2014 09:43 AM (M2qTM)

70 But then this is a Franglish blog.

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2014 09:43 AM (Hy7dS)

71 Reality is completely different for them. Psychopaths.

No.

Religious zealots.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 14, 2014 01:42 PM (T0NGe)

Not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: grognard at February 14, 2014 09:43 AM (/29Nl)

72 1. Leave current job 2. Set up folding card table in garage 3. Think up brilliant idea 4. ????? 5. Mom fixes me some mac and cheese. 6. Nap 7. ????? 8. Fame and Fortune

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:44 AM (g4TxM)

73 When you get lemons capable folk make lemonade. Democrat politicians make LSD.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 14, 2014 09:44 AM (7v8o1)

74
TEACHER: Mr Fixer .... use portmanteau in a sentence.

YOUNG FIXERUPPER: When I grow up Im going to bang Kate Upton..... and Natalie Portman-teau

Posted by: fixerupper at February 14, 2014 09:44 AM (nELVU)

75 Yes, it's terribly exciting. Think of all the people who are now free to become street mimes, beat poets, and street beggars!

Posted by: joncelli at February 14, 2014 09:45 AM (RD7QR)

76 Posted by: fixerupper at February 14, 2014 01:42 PM (nELVU) My four-year old would take great umbrage at being told she argues emotively. My six-year-old would laugh at you. No, the difference between a child doing it and the Demon-craps is that at least children do it out of innocence. Demon-craps have actively chosen to attempt to persuade through deceit rather than have an honest discussion.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 09:45 AM (PYAXX)

77 And this is why we're screwed.

It reminds me of the way that some people are (wrongly, IMO) disapproving of Disney or other children's movies, because they portray evil characters. But showing evil to kids isn't the problem. There is evil in this world. They don't need to see it in all its deepest forms, but there is no reason to sugarcoat the world for eight year-old kids. There is good and there is evil; right and wrong.Showing evil for what it is isn't bad, it is instructive. The problem comes when movies portray evil AS good, and right AS wrong. I don't think Disney movies do this, but this kind of thing would be a route to a morally rudderless society.

So where was I? Oh right, the exciting prospects of Obamacare liberating people from the need to work for their own healthcare. We're really screwed when the destructive, rather than being exposed for what it is, is lauded as progress. When a problem is promoted and accepted as an ideal, it's just about all over.

Posted by: Matt93 at February 14, 2014 09:45 AM (HqZ9d)

78 When I get lemons I add vodka and simple syrup and make limoncello...

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 14, 2014 09:45 AM (RZ8pf)

79 Seamus Muldoon! Stop peaking at my day planner!

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 14, 2014 09:45 AM (7v8o1)

80 Venezuela is our future.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 14, 2014 09:45 AM (JQuNB)

81 Her maternal great-grandfather was Chang Bunker, one of the famous conjoined "Siamese Twins" Chang and Eng Bunker. **** Did Chang and his wife blindfold Eng during that conception?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:45 AM (g4TxM)

82 Does she not know anyone in real life who has had their hours cut No.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 14, 2014 09:45 AM (T0NGe)

83 Did anyone in the media think to ask her why people having their hours cut is a good thing? Why would they? Everybody they know is working.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 14, 2014 09:46 AM (0HooB)

84 This idiot will probably win. this is how doomed we are.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at February 14, 2014 09:46 AM (DGIjM)

85 ...beat poets... *** Good idea!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:46 AM (g4TxM)

86 She's sporting the Val-Jar do. Ask her if she'd be OK with her kids sponging off the ~~Govt.~~ Taxpayer so they could work less.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 14, 2014 09:46 AM (9Bdcz)

87 That's right, you can trust that I shall be benevolentish. Oh, yes, I shall.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 01:37 PM (Gk3SS)

*pushes chocolate and brandy through USB port*

Can't hurt to try and stay on Her Majesty's good side. Or, I guess I could get used to being a newt.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 14, 2014 09:46 AM (l2max)

88 Read this blog post from Venezuela to see our future http://preview.tinyurl.com/mnk3txb

Posted by: votermom at February 14, 2014 09:46 AM (bIdl2)

89 I have an idea that for a perpetual motion machine that will need no conventional source of energy, will not cause any pollution and is easily made from materials found in most kitchens. It will literally change the fate of the planet and enrich the lives of all mankind. If only I wasn't tied to this hateful job because of my insurance.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2014 09:47 AM (g1DWB)

90 Posted by: Matt93 at February 14, 2014 01:45 PM (HqZ9d) These people claim to believe that if we just provide everyone their needs, we'll enter this great time of cultural nirvana and volunteer work/employment. They're nuts.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 09:47 AM (GaqMa)

91 Does she not know anyone in real life who has had their hours cut
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I've got an idea. Let's cut the federal workers' hours by about half. Then they'll all be out composing symphonies and shit.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 14, 2014 09:48 AM (XUKZU)

92 I could while away the hours, conferrin' with the flowers
Consultin' with the rain.
And my head I'd be scratchin' while
my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain.

Posted by: AE at February 14, 2014 09:48 AM (sSKe8)

93 A small thing, but after watching her, the layer of smug she's wearing really pisses me off. Every asshole Lib professor I've ever met.

Posted by: tubal at February 14, 2014 09:48 AM (YEQ2h)

94 News media: Ms. Sink, do you believe the oncoming Depression is a total disaster? Alex Sink: No, I think it'll be wonderful to see income inequality diminished.

Posted by: MTF at February 14, 2014 09:48 AM (F58x4)

I'm afraid voters might not care about this.

The water in the pan hasn't reached boil yet. Right now the frog is kind of warm and comfy.

Posted by: CJ at February 14, 2014 09:49 AM (9KqcB)

96 Or, I guess I could get used to being a newt. Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 14, 2014 01:46 PM (l2max) The Ravage has recently begun demanding newts for lunch. Jus' sayin'

Posted by: Sean Bannion, Chief of the Logistics Directorate, Republic of Alextopia [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 14, 2014 09:49 AM (yz6yg)

97 It reminds me of the way that some people are (wrongly, IMO) disapproving of Disney or other children's movies, because they portray evil characters. My problem is with *who* they portray as evil. I made it through about 20 minutes of Pocahontas before I had to walk out of the room.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 09:49 AM (PYAXX)

I'm in the Tampa Bay Area- and the most depressing thing is, she's up in most of the local polls. This is a woman who has been a huge proponent of Obamacare and the guy she's running against (David Jolly) is decent, smart and well funded. And somehow, she's leading in the polls. A large number of Floridians are apparently morons. I Know that because apparently Charlie Crist (the former "conservatives conservative" who now works for the biggest whore trial lawyer in the state) is also up in the polls for governor. Its amazing to me liberals would support a guy like this but then again, they're not rational people in the first place.

Posted by: Matt at February 14, 2014 09:49 AM (vDEpI)

99 Yep... go read the comments from the original story.. this is considered a good thing.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at February 14, 2014 09:49 AM (DGIjM)

100 Read this blog post from Venezuela to see our future
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Any day now Sean Penn is going to go over there with a big box of single ply and fix everything up.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 14, 2014 09:49 AM (XUKZU)

101 News media: Ms. Sink, do you believe the oncoming Depression is a total disaster? Alex Sink: I'm looking forward to the the increase in Democrat voters!

Posted by: MTF at February 14, 2014 09:50 AM (F58x4)

102 I'm so sick of this dumbshit talk. And that it just leads to more dumbshit talk. I really think there needs to be a movement where someone confronts these fuckheads and says, "If you say something that dumb again I'm going to punch you in the fucking mouth." And follow through on it. People say this stupid shit because they get away with it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 14, 2014 09:50 AM (oFCZn)

103 Everyone knows the real American Dream is not working, sitting at home and collecting SSDI while watching daytime tv. And lemme tell ya - daytime tv is teh awesome. Kill me.

Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2014 09:50 AM (Hy7dS)

104 Just imagine how exciting it would be if the govt just sent everyone $1M a year, then nobody would ever have to work again.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 09:50 AM (0LHZx)

105

Jobs suck, working blows, pay off my student loans, dammit, and then give me some free stuff.

Posted by: The Democrat Voter Base at February 14, 2014 09:50 AM (pmsMR)

106 Her maternal great-grandfather was Chang Bunker, one of the famous conjoined "Siamese Twins" Chang and Eng Bunker. **** Did Chang and his wife blindfold Eng during that conception? I think at that point, you no longer have secrets.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 14, 2014 09:50 AM (GjYxB)

107 News media: Ms. Sink, do you believe the oncoming Depression is a total disaster?

Alex Sink: No, I think it'll be wonderful to see income inequality diminished.
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And then there's the decline in obesity.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 14, 2014 09:51 AM (XUKZU)

108 These people claim to believe that if we just provide everyone their needs, we'll enter this great time of cultural nirvana and volunteer work/employment. They're nuts. Some of them are nuts. Most of them are evil. The few who actually believe you could have nirvana where "no one works" are nuts. But they're actually fairly benevolently nuts. It's the ones who know what the real cost is, and pursue their 'nirvana' anyway who are evil.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 09:51 AM (PYAXX)

109 Michigan Poll: Land up against Peters in EPIC-MRA Poll, 41-38%. Snyder nearing 50% as well.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 09:51 AM (buZ/8)

110 News media: Ms. Sink, do you believe the oncoming Depression is a total disaster? Alex Sink: I have a "friend" who likes to hunt the poor and this will mean more game!

Posted by: MTF at February 14, 2014 09:51 AM (F58x4)

111 Lead and innovate? More like "bleat and indoctrinate".

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:51 AM (g4TxM)

112 Latest polls, all released AFTER the podcast was recorded, have her up 7, 9, and down 2. Ill note the polls showing her with her best leads also show considerable R crossover and a large % voting for the libertarian. This would be a D pickup, and she is favored per analysts. If she can't slam this away though, that cements the Ds have no shot at all with the House.

Posted by: CAC at February 14, 2014 09:51 AM (Dhu2H)

113 Tampa Bay Something Something Newspaper. Yeah, newspapers have become public utilities, haven't they?

Posted by: AmishDude at February 14, 2014 09:52 AM (T0NGe)

114 The Ravage has recently begun demanding newts for lunch. Jus' sayin' Posted by: Sean Bannion, Chief of the Logistics Directorate, Republic of Alextopia at February 14, 2014 01:49 PM (yz6yg) Yea but that is just the unionized Ravage

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 14, 2014 09:52 AM (R8hU8)

115 68
Alex Sink

Her maternal great-grandfather was Chang Bunker, one of the famous conjoined "Siamese Twins" Chang and Eng Bunker.

?!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 14, 2014 01:43 PM (kdS6q)

Yes, it gives a new meaning to the phrase "I like to watch."

Posted by: joncelli at February 14, 2014 09:52 AM (RD7QR)

116 "These people claim to believe that if we just provide everyone their needs, we'll enter this great time of cultural nirvana and volunteer work/employment. They're nuts. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 01:47 PM (GaqMa) "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat." 2 Thessalonians 3:10. Hey, if these hicks in the Bible figured it out over 2,000 years ago, why can't Dems? Amirite?

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 14, 2014 09:52 AM (yz6yg)

117 Posted by: Sean Bannion, Chief of the Logistics Directorate, Republic of Alextopia at February 14, 2014 01:49 PM (yz6yg) So he wouldn't have to adjust for very long. And lemme tell ya - daytime tv is teh awesome. Kill me. Posted by: eleven at February 14, 2014 01:50 PM (Hy7dS) If more people could afford to follow their dreams and be TV writers we'd have better daytime TV.... Or something. It never occurs to these people that those who can create culture, often find a means of doing it.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 09:52 AM (GaqMa)

118 Sorry, Neal McDonough

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 14, 2014 01:40 PM (HubSo)

Ohhhhhh! I'll Neal McDonough for you!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at February 14, 2014 09:52 AM (L8r/r)

119 Has anybody suggested that she shut her Sink hole yet?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:53 AM (g4TxM)

120 Instead of counting dollars we'll be counting stars. (OK, while the quote is apt, I also have that OneRepublic song stuck in my head. OUT, damned earworm!)

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 14, 2014 09:53 AM (7ObY1)

121 This is actually consistent with the everyone should have a guaranteed income and guaranteed place to live and guaranteed health care viewpoint. Work is supposed to be something meaningful and provide holistic benefits to you and your community. It's not supposed to be something you do just for icky icky icky money.

Strangely enough, the people who believe this the most are the least likely to actually give their own money to other people.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 09:53 AM (Gk3SS)

122 Yea but that is just the unionized Ravage Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 14, 2014 01:52 PM (R8hU True. True. The non-Union Ravage only demand human sacrifice

Posted by: Sean Bannion, Chief of the Logistics Directorate, Republic of Alextopia [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 14, 2014 09:53 AM (yz6yg)

123 Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 01:51 PM (buZ/ I didn't follow that at all. Are we happy with those results, or not? Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 14, 2014 01:52 PM (yz6yg) Remember, these are the people who booed the Bible. That should answer your question.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 09:54 AM (PYAXX)

124 Jumbo Shrimp...haven't seen you in forever! How goes it?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 14, 2014 09:54 AM (bCEmE)

125 Tampa Bay Something Something Newspaper.
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Maybe the Slobbering Sycophant.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 14, 2014 09:54 AM (XUKZU)

126 Posted by: Sean Bannion at February 14, 2014 01:52 PM (yz6yg) *** I'll see your 2 Thessalonians 3:10 and raise you a Proverbs 13:11 "Wealth gotten by vanity shall be diminished: but he that gathereth by labour shall increase."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 09:55 AM (g4TxM)

127 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 01:51 PM (PYAXX) I can never figure out if the nutjobs I know don't realize the bad, dismiss it as unlikely, or just don't care because they prefer the end (which is unlikely anyway, but they clearly don't see that.) And that's what scares me the most. If it's the former 2 there's a *chance* however small that we can reason with them and open their eyes. If it's the latter, we're well and truly fucked because they're winning the emotion contest.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 09:55 AM (GaqMa)

128 The thought that some of us actually like working never seems to enter their minds.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 14, 2014 09:55 AM (0HooB)

129 Didn't people have the choice not to work as much before? I'm mean now with the AHCA, they're still going to make less money if they work less (due to reduction of hours or being cut), but now have to pay more for healthcare than they did before the law. Wow.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 14, 2014 09:55 AM (9eDbm)

130 Strangely enough, the people who believe this the most are the least likely to actually give their own money to other people. Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 01:53 PM (Gk3SS) Fen's Law. Oh, and will you be requiring a human sacrifice this afternoon, my Queen? I was going to give Tlazolteotl the afternoon off if you did not require tribute.

Posted by: Sean Bannion, Chief of the Logistics Directorate, Republic of Alextopia [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 14, 2014 09:55 AM (yz6yg)

131 Retort: "Using your own proffered logic, you'll be ecstatic when we fire you in November? Just answer yes or no."

Posted by: Al at February 14, 2014 09:56 AM (9ynpo)

132 It's awesome losing all your limbs because it frees you from having to park in the non-handicapped parking spaces.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 14, 2014 09:56 AM (SY2Kh)

133 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 01:55 PM (g4TxM) "Bible, that's just some old outdated fairytale shit." --Libs.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 09:56 AM (GaqMa)

134 From the blog I linked above, it really is the Tea Party in Venezuela: " most of the protests happening since -at least- last year in Venezuela have not been promoted or organized by political parties. There are small groups of people all over major cities protesting about many different local problems that are not being addressed by the government. "

Posted by: votermom at February 14, 2014 09:56 AM (GSIDW)

135 The thought that some of us actually like working never seems to enter their minds. Because with their limited intellect they are unable to conceive of anyone having a different thought than they.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 14, 2014 09:56 AM (yz6yg)

136 My income was very low in my first years out of college. Had there been an Obamacare, I certainly would have qualified for substantial subsidies. But I had big dreams and plans for myself and knew that the low income was temporary. I'd have been pissed as hell if my need for Obamacare forced me to quit or keep myself underemployed, thus derailing my future. This isn't about ending "job lock", it's about trapping people in a permanent underclass that cannot seek gainful employment and improve their lives because they're stuck on the government teat.

Posted by: obladioblada at February 14, 2014 09:57 AM (w6/EI)

137 123 Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 01:51 PM (buZ/ I didn't follow that at all. Are we happy with those results, or not? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 01:54 PM (PYAXX) Land is a Republican in Michigan with a lead on Democrat Peters. I am happy with them as Peters was leading by a lot all last year with the exception of one poll from Harper. For purplish-blue Michigan this movement is a nice sign.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 09:57 AM (buZ/8)

138 Oh, and will you be requiring a human sacrifice this afternoon, my Queen? I was going to give Tlazolteotl the afternoon off if you did not require tribute. Posted by: Sean Bannion, Chief of the Logistics Directorate, Republic of Alextopia at February 14, 2014 01:55 PM (yz6yg)

Hmmm, I am feeling extra benevolentish at the moment so that's fine.

*waves paw imperially* A brief respite it shall be.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 09:57 AM (Gk3SS)

139 I would like to read the bloppost from Venezuala but it come up screen with a black background with tiny white lettering and is impossible for me to read. Are people now fed up with the current leader Maduro ? or do they still think he's great?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 14, 2014 09:58 AM (XyM/Y)

140 This isn't about ending "job lock", it's about trapping people in a permanent underclass that cannot seek gainful employment and improve their lives because they're stuck on the government teat. YES! Welcome to the glories of the people's revolution, tovarich! And if you don't like it we'll kill you...

Posted by: ProgTard 3000 [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 14, 2014 09:58 AM (yz6yg)

141

Also heard in the conversation:

Those new clothes the emperor is wearing are the bomb!

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2014 09:59 AM (AskuI)

142 139 I would like to read the bloppost from Venezuala but it come up screen with a black background with tiny white lettering and is impossible for me to read. Are people now fed up with the current leader Maduro ? or do they still think he's great? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 14, 2014 01:58 PM (XyM/Y) Can you copy it into Word?

Posted by: RWC- at February 14, 2014 09:59 AM (fWAjv)

143 That would be a pick up for the Republicans in the Senate since Carl Levin is retiring.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 09:59 AM (buZ/8)

144 This isn't about ending "job lock", it's about trapping people in a permanent underclass that cannot seek gainful employment and improve their lives because they're stuck on the government teat. I see two factions. One that is what you say using the group that actually believes this is a good thing. People who want to control the populace always find their useful stooges.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 10:00 AM (GaqMa)

145 Sink cheerily responded: Â“Oh absolutely notÂ…Actually itÂ’s kind of an exciting prospect.Â”

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Exciting. Mmm, yeah. Okay. It's kind of an exciting prospect to work less and have subsidized or reduced insurance costs...and know, from a prosperity standpoint, this is as far as you'll ever get in life. Reach for that ~~brass~~ copper ring!

Posted by: Lady in Black, doesn't want a 4' Vermont Teddy Bear for Valentine's Day at February 14, 2014 10:00 AM (Oa7B2)

146 Jim Hoft ‏@gatewaypundit DISASTER: One in Five O-Care Enrollees Never Paid Premium Â– 83% of Current Enrollees Are Subsidized http://shar.es/QS7j5 @gatewaypundit

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 14, 2014 10:00 AM (ZPrif)

147 Hi Tami!!!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at February 14, 2014 10:01 AM (DGIjM)

148 The left thinks people are punished with babies and jobs and rewarded with socialism and pervert sex.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 14, 2014 10:01 AM (XUKZU)

149 146 Jim Hoft ‏@gatewaypundit DISASTER: One in Five O-Care Enrollees Never Paid Premium Â– 83% of Current Enrollees Are Subsidized http://shar.es/QS7j5 @gatewaypundit Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 14, 2014 02:00 PM (ZPrif) The Republicans did it. How much will this break the budget if 83% are getting subsidies?

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 10:02 AM (buZ/8)

150 How much will this break the budget if 83% are getting subsidies? Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 02:02 PM (buZ/ There's a budget?

Posted by: AmishDude at February 14, 2014 10:02 AM (T0NGe)

151 Later all. Have to run off to get flowers, chocolate and a card for my wonderful Wifey. While I'm still employed and can actually afford it.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 14, 2014 10:02 AM (CGjum)

152 Are there really that many people who stay in a job SOLELY for health insurance? I can see some, but 2.5 million? I just don't believe that.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 10:03 AM (0LHZx)

153 How much will this break the budget if 83% are getting subsidies?

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 02:02 PM (buZ/

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... all of it.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 14, 2014 10:03 AM (nELVU)

154 Thessalonians? Proverbs? meh!

Behold, I will bring evil upon thee, and will take away thy posterity, and will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall...

Posted by: AE at February 14, 2014 10:03 AM (sSKe8)

155 DISASTER: One in Five O-Care Enrollees Never Paid Premium Â– 83% of Current Enrollees Are Subsidized http://shar.es/QS7j5 @gatewaypundit Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 14, 2014 02:00 PM (ZPrif)

If I were one of the 17% paying full rate, I would feel like a fool.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 10:03 AM (Gk3SS)

156 Today: It's great! 2016: That Tea Party's Obamacare is the *worst*!

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 14, 2014 10:03 AM (E8IHS)

157 Yeah I hate that white on black thing. It looks like Arab Spring right now vs Maduro. Except with rightwingers in the streets. At least scroll down and check out the videos.

Posted by: votermom at February 14, 2014 10:04 AM (GSIDW)

158 I'm looking forward to all that Funemployment!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 14, 2014 10:04 AM (zfY+H)

159 146 Jim Hoft ‏@gatewaypundit
DISASTER: One in Five O-Care Enrollees Never Paid Premium Â– 83% of Current Enrollees Are Subsidized http://shar.es/QS7j5 @gatewaypundit
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 14, 2014 02:00 PM (ZPrif)

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Why is this a surprise to anyone? The goal of O-Care was to subsidize 100% of the people signing up. To me the fact it's only 83% and not 100% is actually a good thing.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 10:04 AM (0LHZx)

160

How much will this break the budget if 83% are getting subsidies?

Your GOP betters not only don't have a budget, they don't enforce any debt ceiling anymore, because - shut up, you tea party nut!

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2014 10:04 AM (AskuI)

161 If I were one of the 17% paying full rate, I would feel like a fool. Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 02:03 PM (Gk3SS) I know, you'd consider cutting your hours for a subsidy wouldn't you!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 10:04 AM (GaqMa)

162 Calls for single-payer in 3, 2, 1...

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 14, 2014 10:04 AM (E8IHS)

163 Thanks, RWC. That worked.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 14, 2014 10:04 AM (XyM/Y)

164 I wonder how much passive resistance there is out there. I've not signed up, I know no one who has.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 14, 2014 10:05 AM (zfY+H)

165 How long until this comes over to this side of the pond? And it most certainly will, just a matter of when they'll pull the trigger. http://tinyurl.com/nbkt7rn (Reuters) - The savings of the European Union's 500 million citizens could be used to fund long-term investments to boost the economy and help plug the gap left by banks since the financial crisis, an EU document says. The EU is looking for ways to wean the 28-country bloc from its heavy reliance on bank financing and find other means of funding small companies, infrastructure projects and other investment. "The economic and financial crisis has impaired the ability of the financial sector to channel funds to the real economy, in particular long-term investment," said the document, seen by Reuters. The Commission will ask the bloc's insurance watchdog in the second half of this year for advice on a possible draft law "to mobilize more personal pension savings for long-term financing", the document said. Silly peasant. We know how to invest your money.

Posted by: RWC- at February 14, 2014 10:05 AM (fWAjv)

166 How much will this break the budget if 83% are getting subsidies? I have been assured that the Intaglio printing presses used to print our currency are extremely dependable and durable. Therefor, no budget issue.

Posted by: The Precedent [/i] at February 14, 2014 10:05 AM (CnA98)

167 129 Didn't people have the choice not to work as much before? I'm mean now with the AHCA, they're still going to make less money if they work less (due to reduction of hours or being cut), but now have to pay more for healthcare than they did before the law. Wow. Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 14, 2014 01:55 PM (9eDbm) People who were sick and didn't/couldn't work can now get healthcare, with or without working. The rest are fucked.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 14, 2014 10:05 AM (E8IHS)

168 I know, you'd consider cutting your hours for a subsidy wouldn't you!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 02:04 PM (GaqMa)

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Can't cut hours if you're salaried, which the majority of people are.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 10:05 AM (0LHZx)

169 There's a budget? Posted by: AmishDude at February 14, 2014 02:02 PM (T0NGe) Well whatever we call the budget now since apparently we live in a banana republic. I'm seriously wondering how much this program is going to cost. They can't have considered that 83% of the people were going to be getting subsidies. You can't subsidize this many people for long without going tits up.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 10:06 AM (buZ/8)

170 Silly peasant. We know how to invest your money. Posted by: RWC- at February 14, 2014 02:05 PM (fWAjv) That happens, and suddenly my Bitcoin stash will stretch 30x farther.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 14, 2014 10:06 AM (E8IHS)

171 163 Thanks, RWC. That worked. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 14, 2014 02:04 PM (XyM/Y) You're welcome. I had to do the same thing.

Posted by: RWC- at February 14, 2014 10:06 AM (fWAjv)

172 Are there really that many people who stay in a job SOLELY for health insurance? I can see some, but 2.5 million? I just don't believe that.

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We are legion.

Posted by: Thespian and Poet Society of North America at February 14, 2014 10:06 AM (Oa7B2)

173 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 02:05 PM (0LHZx) I think you missed the point.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 10:07 AM (GaqMa)

174 Are there really that many people who stay in a job SOLELY for health insurance? I can see some, but 2.5 million? I just don't believe that. No, there aren't. I'm actually pretty sure the correct number of people who stay in a specific job (note the qualifier normally left unspoken, which I have specified) SOLELY because of the Health Insurance it provides approaches zero. People might stay at a specific job because the health insurance it provides is enough better than what some other opportunity would provide- but that's part of a complex "cost/benefit analysis" we all do normally. What the Democrats are *actually* saying is that there are people who keep jobs at all because they want employer-provided health insurance. If they had their choice they just wouldn't work. Or (in the Democrats' view) would "work" at being a mime, or "an artist," or whatever.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 14, 2014 10:07 AM (PYAXX)

175 Or companies will just keep people on as contractors indefinitely, instead of hiring them on as salary. Then they get to deal with buying their own overpriced insurance. And self-employment tax. Not that I'm bitter

Posted by: brak at February 14, 2014 10:07 AM (NaTky)

176 I know, you'd consider cutting your hours for a subsidy wouldn't you! Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 02:04 PM (GaqMa)

Bingo bango.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 14, 2014 10:07 AM (Gk3SS)

177 129 Didn't people have the choice not to work as much before? I'm mean now with the AHCA, they're still going to make less money if they work less (due to reduction of hours or being cut), but now have to pay more for healthcare than they did before the law. Wow.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at February 14, 2014 01:55 PM (9eDbm)

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You don't get how this works. People who reduce their hours or stop working completely won't pay anything for health care. Someone reducing hours to only make $20K a year will get 100% free health care. That same person making $30K a year would have to pay $10K a year for that same health care. So monetarily speaking they're in the same situation, but with only working part time instead of full time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 10:08 AM (0LHZx)

178 I think you missed the point. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 02:07 PM (GaqMa Whoa. Shocker there, huh?

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 14, 2014 10:08 AM (yz6yg)

179 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 02:05 PM (0LHZx)

I think you missed the point.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c)

Wouldn't be the first time.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 14, 2014 10:08 AM (aHw7C)

180 164 I wonder how much passive resistance there is out there. I've not signed up, I know no one who has. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 14, 2014 02:05 PM (zfY+H) Don't have insurance and won't. There are steep discounts for people paying cash.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 10:09 AM (buZ/8)

181 When your opposition is the 2014 Republican party, you can get away with stuff like this.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 14, 2014 10:09 AM (S1ANu)

182

And conservatives are the stupid ones.....?

Sheesh.

Posted by: @JohnTant at February 14, 2014 10:09 AM (PFy0L)

183 Okay. It's kind of an exciting prospect to work less and have subsidized or reduced insurance costs...and know, from a prosperity standpoint, this is as far as you'll ever get in life.

I may have mentioned this, but here's a family who gets to spend a lot of time together because the parents feel no need to work.

http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2013/invisible-child/

Posted by: HR at February 14, 2014 10:10 AM (ZKzrr)

184 If elected I will convert our debt from dollars to Rai and make congress wear them on their frickin' neck.

Posted by: RWC- at February 14, 2014 10:10 AM (fWAjv)

185

I ahve been unemployed and it sure was exciting.

No wait - it was depressing with a faint whiff of fear.

BTW - Alex Sink. Didn't she run for another office and didn't make it? Wasn't there some scandal somewhere she was involved in?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - President's Day Sale - All Red Hot Rage 15% Off! at February 14, 2014 10:10 AM (hLRSq)

186 160 How much will this break the budget if 83% are getting subsidies? - Your GOP betters not only don't have a budget, they don't enforce any debt ceiling anymore, because - shut up, you tea party nut! Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2014 02:04 PM (AskuI) SILENCE. This was all the GOP's plan from the beginning. They are giving Obama everything he wants because they don't want him to stop destroying himself. If it destroys America in the process, well tough shit. Mitch McConnell is now reelected so shut the fuck up.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 10:11 AM (buZ/8)

187 >>Alex Sink. Didn't she run for another office and didn't make it? Wasn't there some scandal somewhere she was involved in? Don't know about the scandal but she ran for governor of FL and lost by something like 1%. Most of her lead can be attributed to the fact that she has big name recognition, but her lead has been sliding.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2014 10:12 AM (g1DWB)

188 BTW - Alex Sink. Didn't she run for another office and didn't make it? Wasn't there some scandal somewhere she was involved in? Posted by: Mikey NTH - President's Day Sale - All Red Hot Rage 15% Off! at February 14, 2014 02:10 PM (hLRSq) She ran for governor on the Democrat ticket against Rick Scott in 2010 and lost by 1%.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 10:13 AM (buZ/8)

189 You guys continue to refuse to understand that Obamacare benefits a lot of people. What Dems are saying has resonance with the moocher class. Why work 40 hours when you can work 20 hours and have the same amount of net money?

If you don't think this will sell as an election promise, you're fooling yourselves.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 10:13 AM (0LHZx)

190 I just hope we don't get to the point where it becomes mandatory for me to become a street mime... ...'cause I hate street mimes. I would probably punch myself in the nose.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 10:14 AM (g4TxM)

191 ...and that would just ruin my day.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 10:14 AM (g4TxM)

192 Calls for single-payer in 3, 2, 1... Run this mess successfully for a year or two & we'll talk.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 14, 2014 10:15 AM (GjYxB)

193 You guys continue to refuse to understand that Obamacare benefits a lot of people. What Dems are saying has resonance with the moocher class. Why work 40 hours when you can work 20 hours and have the same amount of net money? If you don't think this will sell as an election promise, you're fooling yourselves. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 02:13 PM (0LHZx) You're not reading my posts. I've said repeatedly "this is bad." "This is emotion, and it's working." And "we're screwed." In this thread even.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 10:15 AM (GaqMa)

194 189 You guys continue to refuse to understand that Obamacare benefits a lot of people. What Dems are saying has resonance with the moocher class. Why work 40 hours when you can work 20 hours and have the same amount of net money? If you don't think this will sell as an election promise, you're fooling yourselves. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 02:13 PM (0LHZx) Some of these people are pissed because they have to pay now if they don't get insurance. Some more are pissed because their company no longer covers their insurance. But most already voted for the Democrats anyways. Some will vote for the GOP out of principle even if they get bennies.

Posted by: NWConservative at February 14, 2014 10:15 AM (buZ/8)

195 rep. ellison said something along these lines.

Posted by: elrobalo at February 14, 2014 10:15 AM (wH5Tk)

196 You're not reading my posts.
I've said repeatedly "this is bad." "This is emotion, and it's working."
And "we're screwed."

In this thread even.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 14, 2014 02:15 PM (GaqMa)

____________

Good that you get it. Most here don't.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 10:16 AM (0LHZx)

197 191 ...and that would just ruin my day.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 14, 2014 02:14 PM (g4TxM)

There's always bad poetry. All the contempt afforded to street mimes and 50 percent less assault and battery!

Posted by: joncelli at February 14, 2014 10:16 AM (RD7QR)

198 People who were sick and didn't/couldn't work can now get healthcare, with or without working.

We seem to have conceded the lying premise that people who were sick/disabled had no healthcare before Obama.

Maybe no health insurance, but there was Medicaid and charity care and free clinics and relatives who paid cash and stuff like that. Maybe not every latest most-expensive treatment on demand, but Obamacare doesn't you get that, either (shit, you may not get any treatment on demand, if you're "out of network.")

Posted by: HR at February 14, 2014 10:17 AM (ZKzrr)

199 I wonder how many people realize that the Dem party has long been in LIB mode.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 14, 2014 10:17 AM (S1ANu)

200 189 You guys continue to refuse to understand that Obamacare benefits a lot of people. What Dems are saying has resonance with the moocher class. Why work 40 hours when you can work 20 hours and have the same amount of net money? If you don't think this will sell as an election promise, you're fooling yourselves. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 02:13 PM (0LHZx) That poll-tests terribly in the US, regardless if individually it's true. That advertisement tactic will crash and burn.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 14, 2014 10:18 AM (E8IHS)

201 We seem to have conceded the lying premise that people who were sick/disabled had no healthcare before Obama. Maybe no health insurance, but there was Medicaid and charity care and free clinics and relatives who paid cash and stuff like that. Maybe not every latest most-expensive treatment on demand, but Obamacare doesn't you get that, either (shit, you may not get any treatment on demand, if you're "out of network.") Posted by: HR at February 14, 2014 02:17 PM (ZKzrr) Right, I'm more talking about PR-wise. People are persuaded by these nice thoughts.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 14, 2014 10:19 AM (E8IHS)

202 >>If you don't think this will sell as an election promise, you're fooling yourselves. Shocking, free shit popular with people who like free shit. The vast majority of people hate this law, aren't stupid enough to by this ridiculous logic and are coming down hard on anyone who supported this clusterfuck.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 14, 2014 10:20 AM (g1DWB)

203 I will bet Mr. Moo Moo $100 that Obama/Hillary/front runner for D nomination will never mention it. Crank liberals in congress? sure.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 14, 2014 10:20 AM (E8IHS)

204 Nood up.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 14, 2014 10:23 AM (GjYxB)

205 203 I will bet Mr. Moo Moo $100 that Obama/Hillary/front runner for D nomination will never mention it.

Crank liberals in congress? sure.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at February 14, 2014 02:20 PM (E8IHS)

___________

Depends how you term "never mention it". Will they say 2.5 million lost jobs is great? No. Will they say trot out some sad sack story about a single mom with 5 kids who benefits from Obamacare? You bet.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 14, 2014 10:24 AM (0LHZx)

206 Let's give Alex Sink more choices than being stuck in a government job

Posted by: Ultra Man at February 14, 2014 10:26 AM (e8kgV)

207

What Dems are saying has resonance with the moocher class. Why work 40 hours when you can work 20 hours and have the same amount of net money?

80% of the dem vote in 2012 was from people on welfare. The mooch class is already voting dem, the question is: will they come out in force in the midtersm? Historically, no.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 14, 2014 10:30 AM (AskuI)

208 Someone hand me that lever over there, we gotta roll this back right side up.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 14, 2014 10:33 AM (jsa6I)

209 139 I would like to read the bloppost from Venezuala but it come up screen with a black background with tiny white lettering and is impossible for me to read. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 14, 2014 01:58 PM (XyM/Y) Wow, that is hard to read. If you're on a Mac, hit control+option+squiggle+8.

Posted by: rickl at February 14, 2014 10:34 AM (zoehZ)

210 'Not working' is a choice only if 'working' is also a choice.

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at February 14, 2014 10:36 AM (lILC0)

211 I can finally pursue my life long goal of creating art from used chewing gum.

Posted by: noone, really [/i][/b] at February 14, 2014 10:38 AM (5ikDv)

212 I was in the middle of a three car excitement on a motorcycle once. It felt a lot like this.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at February 14, 2014 10:50 AM (O2B/H)

213 "Rosie the Riveter" is now "Rosie the Lazy Slouch" thanks to Democrats.

Posted by: OxyCon at February 14, 2014 11:03 AM (xBryS)

214 This proves that financial slavery to giant corporations is an obsolete way of thinking. Common people who cannot run their own lives will be taken care of by the government. They are meant to be ruled by their betters, but not enslaved.

People are not to be exploited to make money for multinational corporations and the Wall Street machine that enrich "International Bankers"- that money then going to fund Zionist wars against the oppressed Palestinians. By breaking the chain in which Americans are exploited, that money is not used for further injustices and illegal wars. Starve Wall Street! Justice for Palestine! Save the Brown People!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 14, 2014 11:08 AM (dqSmk)

215 I see Ms Sink's ads all the time, first with her old daddy (probably a retired union hack) who said she'd "work with democrats and republicans - thanks Boehner) and lately lots of ads that he's an EEEEVVVILLLL lobbyist. Never mind that lobbying is a boom industry now that TFG let it be known you can buy indulgences

She would be way behind in the Sarasota district south of Tampa, but Hillsborough and Pinellas counties are her district, lots of Free Shit Army LIV's there

Posted by: kbdabear at February 14, 2014 11:14 AM (aTXUx)

216 Typical Progressive hypocrisy...apparently its OK to work and have less freedom so long as you belong to a union, pay dues and support Democratic candidates! I could drive a semi thru this ridiculous argument!

Posted by: Pelosi Schmelosi at February 14, 2014 11:17 AM (UxLV7)

217 Brietbart had some nitwit saying that the "funemployed" will now have more of an opportunity to cook dinner.

Guess food is now free?

Posted by: tangonine (Space Shuttle Door Gunner) at February 14, 2014 11:34 AM (x3YFz)

218 Love Neal. Loved the ad -- until he got into the Weenie Car. Then he lost me.

:-(((

But it is interesting ... the Leftwing Nutters really do (mostly) understand the appeal of freedom and "self-actualization."

Wrong about the Moon, tho. We didn't leave because we were bored, but because Nixon didn't "get" the space adventure idea, and cancelled it. But things are so much better now! Now that NASA is dedicated by the current Moslem-in-Chief to "moslem outreach."

Posted by: Beverly at February 14, 2014 11:44 AM (/r8F+)

219 BTW-- the Ofays at Organizing for [the Destruction of] America are sending around cute photos of kittens and puppies to push -- wait for it ....

the ADORABLE CARE ACT!

Now isn't that just darling? And all for Valentine's Day! how precious.

Posted by: Beverly at February 14, 2014 11:46 AM (/r8F+)

220 It should be noted that Sink was the Democrats' nominee for Governor last time around. She is mainstream Florida Democrat.

Before you begin scratching your head over the stupidity, remember: stupid people deserve representation too.

Posted by: Adjoran at February 14, 2014 12:07 PM (QIQ6j)

221 If having the ability not to work is so great, why, oh, why, does the IRS want employers to provide, under penalty of perjury, that they have not let any workers go? It should be in bold print on the IRS form: "Have you helped any of your workers know freedom from work?" Obviously, by firing them, but, what the hey!

Posted by: TimothyJ at February 14, 2014 12:09 PM (ep2io)

222 Less income, less income taxes, and thus more tax burden on those of us who don't cut back on our hours. This is fair...how?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 14, 2014 12:50 PM (1hM1d)

223 I just tweeted this to Mrs. Sink: @AlexSinkFlorida If #ObamaCare job loss is a good thing, why is the admin discouraging businesses from reporting it?

Posted by: The Liberty Dude at February 14, 2014 01:53 PM (iAWQF)

224

I live in the Pinellas district that she is running in. Ms. Sink could be a poster child for a carpetbagging democrap. She lives about an hour or so north of Pinellas County in a 13,000 square foot "house" on a private lake.

And the reason she is ahead in the polls is the same reason she was close in the governor's race. Both of the local rags are deep in the pResident's anal orifice/demo pocket.

The saying here is that obummer and his friends could kill and eat live babies on tv and the headlines would read "Obama Discovers Untapped Source of Protein". And Sink would gladly light the charcoal in the grill.

Posted by: emdfl at February 14, 2014 05:26 PM (dAPnI)

225 This woman came relatively close to beating Rick Scott to become Florida's governor. Scary.

Posted by: Glen hull at February 15, 2014 07:46 AM (pgPQK)

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