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January 16, 2014

Despite Agency Denials, Emails Show EPA Coordinated With Left-Wing Political Groups to Pressure Energy Companies;
EPA Head Dodges Questions
— Ace

Corrupt.

Internal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) emails show extensive collaboration between top agency officials and leading environmentalist groups, including overt efforts to coordinate messaging and pressure the fossil fuel industry.
The emails, obtained by the Energy and Environment Legal Institute (EELI) through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit, could fuel an ongoing controversy over EPA policies that critics say are biased against traditional sources of energy.
Emails show EPA used official events to help environmentalist groups gather signatures for petitions on agency rulemaking, incorporated advance copies of letters drafted by those groups into official statements, and worked with environmentalists to publicly pressure executives of at least one energy company.
Nancy Grantham, director of public affairs for EPA Region 1, which covers New England, asked an organizer for the Sierra ClubÂ’s New Hampshire chapter to share the groupÂ’s agenda so EPA could adjust its messaging accordingly in an email dated March 12, 2012.
Â“If you could, it would great [sic] if you can send me an email describing what you would like to do in early April in NHÂ–that way I can coordinate messaging with our air offices here and at HQ,Â” Grantham wrote.
Critics of the agency and its nonprofit allies were surprised by the cooperation.
Â“The level of coordination in these documents is shocking,Â” EELI said in a statement.

It's a long article, reporting lots of incidences of coordination, so read the whole thing.

The EPA head learned about this when you did, when she read the paper this morning.

Sen. John Barrasso (R., Wyo.) grilled McCarthy on the issue at a Thursday hearing of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, reciting portions of a Wednesday Washington Free Beacon report on the emails.
One of those emails showed that deputy EPA administrator Bob Perciasepe held an event with two dozen environmentalist groups for the explicit purpose of helping them solicit comments supportive of stringent environmental regulations.
Â“Is it proper behavior for the EPA to go out with these groups for the sole purpose of recruiting additional comment signers to then go ahead and support your position?Â” Barrasso asked.
McCarthy declined to address the event specifically, saying she had not seen the email in question and was not aware of the Perciasepe event.
Â“I certainly donÂ’t want to interpret what you just read, senator,Â” McCarthy said. Â“I donÂ’t know what the occasion was, IÂ’m sorry.Â”

I'm sure she's outraged and will get right on it.

Posted by: Ace at 02:50 PM | Comments (182)
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1 IOW, our tax money is being used to screw us.

Posted by: --- at January 16, 2014 02:53 PM (MMC8r)

hmmmm

Look Squirl !

Posted by: LIV and lovin it at January 16, 2014 02:53 PM (W6iIX)

3 Old and Busted: Do nothing congress New Hotness: Know nothing government

Posted by: Lauren at January 16, 2014 02:54 PM (hFL/3)

It would appear that this is bad.

Didn't the IRS do something bad too?

Posted by: LIV and lovin it at January 16, 2014 02:54 PM (W6iIX)

5 A level playing field inspires confidence in government. Yeah, baby!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2014 02:55 PM (8ZskC)

6 The cronyism begins at the activist level, then influences policy to funnel money to cronies at the legislative level, then it's on to industry and enforcement. It's a RACKET.

Posted by: --- at January 16, 2014 02:55 PM (MMC8r)

7 Government of the people, by the people. . .

Get organized. You can make a career out of organizing people. There is government grant money available to help you raise awareness and organize your fellow countrymen.

Posted by: Weston G. Merrous at January 16, 2014 02:55 PM (ijDIW)

8 <<I'm sure she's outraged and will get right on it.>>

Soon as she's done being enraged at the real enemy: Chris Christie.

Posted by: SGT. York at January 16, 2014 02:56 PM (KfxOR)

But wait !

Isn't the EPA protecting the enviroment from Republicans and corporations.

What is wrong with enlisting the help of the Sierra Club?

Posted by: LIV and lovin it at January 16, 2014 02:56 PM (W6iIX)

10 I assure you, nobody in my administration is more angry about this than me.

Nobody. Absolutely. Nobody.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at January 16, 2014 02:56 PM (8ZskC)

11 As soon as I read about this in the papers, I will be outraged. I assure you. Outraged.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 16, 2014 02:56 PM (4j296)

12 Yeah? So? Whatcha gonna do about it? Hmm?

Posted by: Democrats at January 16, 2014 02:56 PM (2gjPx)

13 And as usual, nothing will be done about this.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 16, 2014 02:56 PM (itCai)

14 McCarthy sounds like a cheese fucker to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2014 02:57 PM (g1DWB)

15 So, would a gibbet be cruel AND unusual if we sentenced every corrupt official to it? Or would we have to give them a pillow?

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 16, 2014 02:57 PM (g/68I)

16 Wouldn't it be great if they legalized pot in all 57 states?

Posted by: LIV and lovin it at January 16, 2014 02:57 PM (W6iIX)

17 Convene my military council!

Posted by: Darrell Issa and His Phoney Baloney Congressional Hearings at January 16, 2014 02:57 PM (8ZskC)

18 Tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: steevy at January 16, 2014 02:57 PM (zqvg6)

19 Article V convention is sounding better and better every day.

Posted by: filbert at January 16, 2014 02:57 PM (2gjPx)

20 Damn, I should really try skimming the posts before putting my socks on.

Posted by: garrett at January 16, 2014 02:57 PM (4j296)

21 This is horrible.

Posted by: Jango Unchained at January 16, 2014 02:58 PM (qGcMV)

22 Ace it gets better, turns out WUWT says NOAA is admitting US temps dropped 2.9 degrees fahrenheit...

http://tinyurl.com/oo8x8ln

That knocks out "all global warmening"....

oops

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 02:58 PM (TE35l)

23 Organize NOW!
Protect the CHEESE , before they take it away.

Save the CHEESE.

Posted by: Weston G. Merrous at January 16, 2014 02:58 PM (ijDIW)

24 13 And as usual, nothing will be done about this.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 16, 2014 06:56 PM (itCai)
Or anything else.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 16, 2014 02:58 PM (m2Izr)

25 Believe it or not there are prog donors who run east coast energy companies and are tight with the administration. Who run coal fired electric generation plants in other parts of the country This is just an extension of picking winners and losers

Posted by: Thunderb at January 16, 2014 02:58 PM (zOTsN)

26 The RightoSphere has been reporting on this cozy relationship for years. One of their favorite tricks is to get the enviros to sue them, then settle out of court. We pay all lawyer fees, and a new 'consent order' gets put on the books.

This is one of biggest causes of pessimism for me. They are attacking us with every agency, all the time, plus TFG's magic pen. Even the SC can't really do much to slow down the pace. The House might as well be stroking themselves with Swiss cheese.

One thing, Net Neutrality, gets shot down by the courts but 10 new things are added in the meantime.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 16, 2014 02:58 PM (cHZB7)

27 Richard Windsor could not be reached for comment.
(They should've emailed him)

Posted by: Lizzy at January 16, 2014 02:59 PM (POpqt)

28 Tip of the iceberg. Tip Iceberg sounds like a jewish name.

Posted by: UCLA Professor at January 16, 2014 02:59 PM (MMC8r)

Boy I sure hope the Republicans in the house fund the EPA in the next Omnibus bill.

we can't not save the animals and stuff

Posted by: LIV and lovin it at January 16, 2014 02:59 PM (W6iIX)

30 19 filbert at January 16, 2014 06:57 PM (2gjPx)

The power to tax is the power to destroy...

now regulatory fines are a defacto tax, as is the power to prevent land use through regulation...

The power to regulate is ALSO the power to destroy

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 03:00 PM (TE35l)

31 Aha. Here's another hill not to die on.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at January 16, 2014 03:00 PM (8ZskC)

32 Tip of the jarlsburg

Posted by: Thunderb at January 16, 2014 03:00 PM (zOTsN)

33 Seems like the heads of these agencies need to attend the morning briefings a little more often.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 16, 2014 03:00 PM (yh0zB)

34 'Outrage' that your shenanigans have been discovered is not the same as outrage than this #$%@^&*+) takes place everyday a thousand times over.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at January 16, 2014 03:00 PM (hpgw1)

35 They're coming to take your cheese away.
hahah ho ho to the cheesy farm
where life is beautiful all the time
and the nice young men in their white coats
are coming to take your cheese away...

Posted by: Weston G. Merrous at January 16, 2014 03:01 PM (ijDIW)

36 Well duh.

This is exactly what they do. They collude with the radical environazis, they invite them to overwhelm the comments with their support for their position, they invite the nazis to sue them so they can settle with generous terms, it is corrupt to the core.

And the only thing that really keeps them going is the false belief that the EPA is the only thing standing between us and dirty water, when most of the environmental regulations are actually at the state level. If the EPA died tomorrow, the water would not suddenly become dirty.

it's sickening.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 16, 2014 03:01 PM (cnS/d)

37 How tall should a pike be? I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 16, 2014 03:01 PM (8ZskC)

38 Why do I have to find out this stuff in the news?

Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at January 16, 2014 03:01 PM (POpqt)

39 26 GnuBreed at January 16, 2014 06:58 PM (cHZB7)

It's Kleptocracy...

EPA purposefully owngoals cases and awards settlements to NGO activist groups to sue when EPA purposefully misses deadlines to bend policy their way...

a perfect little business killing engine.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 03:01 PM (TE35l)

40 The fact that anyone would be surprised by this is hilarious. Labor unions are basically running the Department of Labor now. The stories I am hearing out of my old office are almost criminal.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 16, 2014 03:01 PM (yz6yg)

41 One of their favorite tricks is to get the enviros to sue them, then settle out of court. We pay all lawyer fees, and a new 'consent order' gets put on the books. And that's how the Left gets funded with tax revenue they take from us.

Posted by: --- at January 16, 2014 03:01 PM (MMC8r)

42 Remember when libs were outraged that oil companies were supposedly writing energy policy under Bush? They don't.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2014 03:01 PM (g1DWB)

43
"I'm sure she's outraged and will get right on it."

Gina McCarthy

A Boston native, McCarthy worked under four previous Massachusetts governors before Romney. Shortly after taking office, he elevated her role, promoting her to undersecretary for policy at the Executive Office for Environmental Affairs. When Romney combined that agency and others into a superagency known as the Office for Commonwealth Development, he chose McCarthy to serve as its deputy secretary of operations.

Vote Republican!*

*or not. Frankly, doesn't seem to matter much.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 16, 2014 03:02 PM (kdS6q)

44 The power to tax is the power to destroy... now regulatory fines are a defacto tax, as is the power to prevent land use through regulation... The power to regulate is ALSO the power to destroy Dry creek on your property? Wetlands. AND navagable waterway.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 16, 2014 03:02 PM (cUARf)

45 So much for regulatory capture, the go-to phrase for all political science literature when it comes to regulation.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 16, 2014 03:02 PM (nZiT2)

46 Wasn't there some outrage that Cheney was from Halliburton because they thought he might be influencing energy policy? And yet here we have proven coordination between the EPA and the greens and the media is....silent. As I not on twitter, defund the EPA, and pay out the military benefits.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 16, 2014 03:02 PM (GaqMa)

Y'all need the EPA otherwise The Republicans will put me back into the water

Posted by: Arsenic at January 16, 2014 03:02 PM (W6iIX)

48 *taps foot*

I want epaulettes, dammit.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 16, 2014 03:03 PM (Gk3SS)

49 Another scandal involving corruption within the government and their special lobby buddies and I can rest assured NOTHING will be done about it. Nobody will lose their job, get demoted, or be investigated. Our government, especially at the federal level, is so corrupted there is nothing left to do other than flush the whole bunch down the crapper and start over.

Posted by: cemoto at January 16, 2014 03:04 PM (6uLIf)

Another scandel. And then another. And then another.

A lawless regime, and the thumbs of the GOP get browner and browner.

I'm really and honestly asking myself now why I should obey any federal laws.

Posted by: LGBT at January 16, 2014 03:04 PM (SneYa)

51 Frack the EPA!

Posted by: logprof at January 16, 2014 03:04 PM (X3GkB)

52 The Republican 2016 nominee had better vow to purge the entire federal bureaucracy. The Republican congress' refusal to cut off funding to these agencies is asinine. Their cowardice is proof they are unfit to lead.

Posted by: Iblis at January 16, 2014 03:05 PM (9221z)

53 Cruz on Greta. Creamy smooth Cruz.

Posted by: Thunderb at January 16, 2014 03:05 PM (zOTsN)

I'm really and honestly asking myself now why I should obey any federal laws.

Posted by: LGBT at January 16, 2014 07:04 PM (SneYa)

you in the country illegally?

Posted by: Arsenic at January 16, 2014 03:05 PM (W6iIX)

55 I want epaulettes, dammit.

Will ya settle for some Cheddar?

Posted by: Chris Pagano at January 16, 2014 03:06 PM (cnS/d)

56 >>The Republican 2016 nominee had better vow to purge the entire federal bureaucracy.

Shut down the EPA, for starters.
You don't reform entrenched bureaucracy.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 16, 2014 03:06 PM (POpqt)

57 I am so shocked, I'm going to need another beer.

Posted by: Peaches at January 16, 2014 03:06 PM (8lmkt)

58 Cruz just said "pudding". It's a sign

Posted by: Thunderb at January 16, 2014 03:07 PM (zOTsN)

59 44 rickb223 at January 16, 2014 07:02 PM (cUARf)

Barely a joke...

Why am I ready to leave the GOP?

Yeah McCain is ALL OVER the weaponized civil service...

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 03:07 PM (TE35l)

60 Bugger sock off

Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2014 03:07 PM (SneYa)

61 Shut down the EPA, for starters.
You don't reform entrenched bureaucracy.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 16, 2014 07:06 PM (POpqt)

Education Dept. is a close 2nd

Posted by: Arsenic at January 16, 2014 03:07 PM (W6iIX)

"Corruption" is such an ugly word. We prefer "mutually beneficial relationship of a secretive nature."

Sincerely, Your Government Betters.

P.S. Back to work, serfs. These luxury conferences and jags to the Caribbean don't pay for themselves.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 16, 2014 03:08 PM (sQ0LB)

63 The sooner everyone understands that the federal government is constituted and run to advance Democrat principles and policy preferences we can start the better off we will be.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 16, 2014 03:08 PM (Xkr8I)

64 In a banana republic honest moron-ettes are duty bound to subvert the corruption by moving as much of their economic activity to a local underground. Barter, trade, and exchange cash without taxation. Think of it as a training exercise.

Posted by: Henry Bowman at January 16, 2014 03:09 PM (hpgw1)

65 I may not have been able to fix a hole in a boat, but even I can see this is all f*****d up.

Posted by: Zombie Dr. Roy Hinkley at January 16, 2014 03:09 PM (6TB1Z)

66 We do all sorts of good work

Posted by: Energy Department at January 16, 2014 03:09 PM (jucos)

67 The state has become self aware. The state is for the state, in opposition to the people. The people are the host

Posted by: Thunderb at January 16, 2014 03:09 PM (zOTsN)

68 I'm out! AMF and tell Abe Vigoda hello!

Posted by: Ruben Kinkaid at January 16, 2014 03:10 PM (jucos)

69 The sooner everyone understands that the federal government is constituted and run to advance Democrat principles and policy preferences we can start the better off we will be. It's actually out to perpetuate ITSELF. Supporting the BIG GUMMINT party is the way to do that.

Posted by: --- at January 16, 2014 03:10 PM (MMC8r)

70 Yeah, why are we paying taxes for this shit? I'd love it if Ted Cruz came out for Tax Amnesty. The citizens would love it, and the libs heads' would implode.

Posted by: Iblis at January 16, 2014 03:10 PM (9221z)

71 I'm sure she's outraged and will get right on it. Posted by: Ace at 06:50 PM As will Issa. Just how does one lose their job working for the federal government? Bastards.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at January 16, 2014 03:10 PM (/djtm)

72 obama's EPA you meant to say. Just like how it's obama's IRS, NSA, and FBI. the man is a totalitarian dictocrat

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2014 03:11 PM (plJvF)

73 71 Golfman in NC at January 16, 2014 07:10 PM (/djtm)

You get retired with full bennies for taking the hit for Ogabe on a scandal...

//Lerner 3:16

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 03:11 PM (TE35l)

74 And of course the EPA was created by a Republican,just like DHS.

Posted by: steevy at January 16, 2014 03:11 PM (zqvg6)

75 Article V convention or secession. They are the only way to preserve the Constitution and freedom. I never thought that I'd see times like this.

Posted by: Soona at January 16, 2014 03:12 PM (SneYa)

76 I am so shocked, I'm going to need another beer.
Posted by: Peaches at January 16, 2014 07:06 PM (8lmkt)

*sidles over*

Hi. How you doin'?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 16, 2014 03:12 PM (Gk3SS)

77 35 They're coming to take your cheese away.
hahah ho ho to the cheesy farm
where life is beautiful all the time
and the nice young men in their white coats
are coming to take your cheese away...
Posted by: Weston G. Merrous

Laugh it up. At least I'm oblivious.

Posted by: Napolean IVth at January 16, 2014 03:12 PM (6TB1Z)

78 WH Press Corps: So how do you think this latest scandal affcets the morale of the country?

Carney: You're kidding, right?

WH Press Cops: Totally! So, tell us all about Michelle's b-day party!
Like, what should we wear? Where is she registered? What kind of booze ill be served?....

Posted by: Lizzy at January 16, 2014 03:12 PM (POpqt)

79 Hey, at least we're not watching porn on your dime like those hooligans at the SEC.

Posted by: EPA at January 16, 2014 03:12 PM (DpLZ2)

Every one of our hard working employees has their very own Farmer!

Posted by: Department of Agriculture at January 16, 2014 03:13 PM (jucos)

81 Ms. McCarthy, was that a cum bubble-fart, or did you say something?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 16, 2014 03:13 PM (vHRtU)

82 Just how does one lose their job working for the federal government?

Bastards.

Become known as a conservative who votes Republican and get caught surfing conservative sites by Dem boss.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at January 16, 2014 03:13 PM (5ikDv)

83 In my car with the radio on and I heard Hewitt interviewing Weigel. Why? Why does that little fucker constantly get linked and interviewed by our side?

Posted by: Dr. Schlomo Pugberg at January 16, 2014 03:13 PM (Qev5V)

84 74 steevy at January 16, 2014 07:11 PM (zqvg6)

Well "Nixon" who was actually a Keynesian Liberal domestically just a law and order one.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 03:13 PM (TE35l)

85 Wasn't it the EPA that had the warehouse set up as a hideout for sleeping and slacking off?

Posted by: steevy at January 16, 2014 03:14 PM (zqvg6)

anyone see where Sarah Pailin's Dad was audited 6 times after she was put on the ticket in 2008?

Never an audit prior to 2008

Posted by: Arsenic at January 16, 2014 03:14 PM (W6iIX)

87 Recon to understand the terrain and their movements. Keep it silent and leave no evidence.

Posted by: Henry Bowman at January 16, 2014 03:14 PM (hpgw1)

88 I want epaulettes, dammit.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 16, 2014 07:03 PM (Gk3SS)

Mine empress, I think you would look absolutely stunning in something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/pllkaay

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 16, 2014 03:14 PM (yh0zB)

89 Anyone else see Congresswoman Johnson saying that all the security concerns by an independent security expert are political? I wonder what it's like to see everything through tribe-colored glasses?

Posted by: pep at January 16, 2014 03:14 PM (6TB1Z)

90 Playing dumb and letting the media gloss over and then censor my rank corruption worked out pretty good for me, too.

Posted by: Jon Corzine at January 16, 2014 03:14 PM (pmsMR)

91 State protects and defends the state

Posted by: Thunderb at January 16, 2014 03:14 PM (zOTsN)

92 Be careful, you don't want that coy pond in the backyard declared a wetland do you? Maybe even that low spot that holds water after a good rain.

Posted by: no good deed at January 16, 2014 03:14 PM (vBhbc)

93 Eco-fascist swine.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 03:15 PM (ZPrif)

94 Can anyone imagine the response from the MSM and the lefties if the DoJ co-ordinated in such a fashion with the NRA?

Posted by: havildar - major at January 16, 2014 03:15 PM (kduZC)

95 Since when did "I'm incompetent" become a viable excuse?

Posted by: Icedog at January 16, 2014 03:15 PM (uZ6Ul)

96 *sidles over*

Hi. How you doin'?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 16, 2014 07:12 PM (Gk3SS)

Hey, atc!! Actually, with all this "working from home" stuff lately, I'm thinking it might behoove me to buy some Coors stock. Can I offer you a can?

Posted by: Peaches at January 16, 2014 03:15 PM (8lmkt)

97 Not enough joo sounding names in this post.

Posted by: Mark "The Real Deal Joo" Kleiman at January 16, 2014 03:16 PM (mETGQ)

98 Be careful, you don't want that coy pond in the backyard declared a wetland do you?

I dunno. I kind of like my bodies of water on the reserved side.

Posted by: pep at January 16, 2014 03:16 PM (6TB1Z)

99 I've got some aged gouda in the fridge that's getting me pretty hot.

Posted by: I need a cool new sig at January 16, 2014 03:17 PM (q177U)

100

Say this using government to harass your political opponents is a great idea.

wonder who thought that up?

Posted by: who dat? at January 16, 2014 03:18 PM (W6iIX)

101

My rage meter is broke......does the Acme Co. sell them?

Posted by: Mallamutt at January 16, 2014 03:19 PM (JUiEA)

102 Is cheese about to replace pudding in the moron lexicon? And why is Ace so enamored with sexing groceries?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 16, 2014 03:19 PM (zOTsN)

103 >>And why is Ace so enamored with sexing groceries? They know how to keep their mouths shut.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2014 03:20 PM (g1DWB)

104 The EPA is so well run that their highest paid employee was able to do little to know work for 12 years by claiming he was a CIA agent and he couldn't come to work most of the time because he was off doing secret squirrel shit. Burn it all down.

Posted by: Adam at January 16, 2014 03:20 PM (Aif/5)

105 What's up with this regular post? Run out of pot, cheese and joo news?

Posted by: YIKES! at January 16, 2014 03:21 PM (mETGQ)

106 Is ANYONE, EVER, going to be held accountable in this administration? Anyone? Charge the janitor with jizzing in the coffeepot? Anyone? Anything, the littlest of things, the least of things?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 16, 2014 03:21 PM (vHRtU)

107 105 OG Celtic-American at January 16, 2014 07:21 PM (vHRtU)

Bob Gates is about to be to blame for Benghazi I think...

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 03:22 PM (TE35l)

108 I'm really and honestly asking myself now why I should obey any federal laws. Because if your politics are wrong you'll be gibbeted faster than you can say Delegation Doctrine.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 16, 2014 03:22 PM (P7Wsr)

109 I told you!

Posted by: George Orwell at January 16, 2014 03:22 PM (BAS5M)

110 I hear there is a new Israeli cheese coming out, Joo-Whiz.

Posted by: OG Celtic-Americanstein at January 16, 2014 03:23 PM (vHRtU)

111 What fucking difference does it make!?

Posted by: Sierra Club at January 16, 2014 03:23 PM (yICtd)

112 I told you!

Posted by: George Orwell at January 16, 2014 07:22 PM (BAS5M)

Four legs good, two legs bad !

Posted by: who dat? at January 16, 2014 03:23 PM (W6iIX)

113 >>The EPA is so well run that their highest paid employee was able to do little to know work for 12 years by claiming he was a CIA agent...

And his specialty was - wait for it! - Climate Change!!
An imaginary life for a man with expertise in an imaginary science.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 16, 2014 03:24 PM (POpqt)

114 105 Is ANYONE, EVER, going to be held accountable in this administration? Anyone? Charge the janitor with jizzing in the coffeepot? Anyone? Anything, the littlest of things, the least of things?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 16, 2014 07:21 PM (vHRtU)

To admit that a member of the government needs to be punished for wrongdoing would be to admit that the party was wrong. The party is never wrong, comrade.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 16, 2014 03:24 PM (sQ0LB)

115 61 Shut down the EPA, for starters. You don't reform entrenched bureaucracy.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 16, 2014 07:06 PM (POpqt)

Education Dept. is a close 2nd

Posted by: Arsenic at January 16, 2014 07:07 PM (W6iIX)

And next would be....uhhhhhh....uhhhhhhh........ Uh. Sorry.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 16, 2014 03:25 PM (GrtrJ)

116 Eco-fascism for fun and profit.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 03:25 PM (ZPrif)

117 113 Conservative Crank at January 16, 2014 07:24 PM (sQ0LB)

Now when we are one party state comrade, if you screw up we kick you from party and then suddenly you get a headache

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 03:26 PM (TE35l)

118 I say that if the country wants to outlaw cheese fucking then let congress write a law. The last thing we need is some unaccountable douchebag prude at the EPA regulating the entire cheese-fucking industry on their own.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 16, 2014 03:26 PM (+lsX1)

119

Hey, we just found the tests of the Boston Bombers!

Did you know they were going to NYC next!

so don't worry fellow citizens we got this.

Posted by: The NSA at January 16, 2014 03:26 PM (W6iIX)

120 And why is Ace so enamored with sexing groceries?

They know how to keep their mouths shut.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2014 07:20 PM (g1DWB)

Damn you, JackStraw, even my neighbors heard the guffaw that produced.

Posted by: Peaches at January 16, 2014 03:27 PM (8lmkt)

121 116 113 Conservative Crank at January 16, 2014 07:24 PM (sQ0LB)

Now when we are one party state comrade, if you screw up we kick you from party and then suddenly you get a headache

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 07:26 PM (TE35l)

Will it be the traditional Markhov 9mm therapy or, this being America, will a new prescription be offered at far greater expense?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 16, 2014 03:27 PM (sQ0LB)

122 In news of brutality, a UFC fighter shit his pant mid-fight last night. Yoel Romero is a Cuban Olympic wrestler turned UFC fighter. He won his fight. 3rd round TKO. He also punched the other dude in the dick. And he shat himself. If you can shit yourself on life TV while kicking another man's ass ... that's weirdly impressive.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 03:28 PM (ZPrif)

123 Hey, atc!! Actually, with all this "working from home" stuff lately, I'm thinking it might behoove me to buy some Coors stock. Can I offer you a can?
Posted by: Peaches at January 16, 2014 07:15 PM (8lmkt)

Yes, please.

Remember, the environmental groups and the EPA are doing Gaia's work therefore there is no possibility that what they are doing is wrong. They are merely ignoring ridiculous and antiquated rules that serve only to protect those who are destroying the planet. What kind of monster are you to stand in their way?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 16, 2014 03:28 PM (Gk3SS)

124 To admit that a member of the government needs to be punished for wrongdoing would be to admit that the party was wrong. The party is never wrong, comrade. Reminds me of Citizen X, the Russian serial killer. They had him in custody, but the forensics people said he wasn't a match, probably because he was a party member. Also, serial killers were a decadent western phenomenon, don't you know? To admit Russia had them too would be bad for politics. The investigator had to catch him again, and get him to confess before they could keep him.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 16, 2014 03:28 PM (P7Wsr)

125 Shut down the EPA, for starters. You don't reform entrenched bureaucracy. Posted by: Lizzy at January 16, 2014 07:06 PM (POpqt) There is no other way to kill the snake.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at January 16, 2014 03:29 PM (oRpha)

126 Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 16, 2014 07:26 PM (+lsX1) You just gave us a great idea.

Posted by: Mexican Cheese Cartel at January 16, 2014 03:29 PM (mETGQ)

127

Oh. You sure it's "Blessed are the cheese [b[makers.[/b]?

Dang. My bad. Sorry!

Posted by: Chris Pagano at January 16, 2014 03:29 PM (BAS5M)

128 121 In news of brutality, a UFC fighter shit his pant mid-fight last night. Yoel Romero is a Cuban Olympic wrestler turned UFC fighter. He won his fight. 3rd round TKO. He also punched the other dude in the dick. And he shat himself. If you can shit yourself on life TV while kicking another man's ass ... that's weirdly impressive. Don't they "go" before fights?

Posted by: EC at January 16, 2014 03:30 PM (IA/qc)

129 When the government picks winners and losers, that's fascism.

Posted by: real joe at January 16, 2014 03:30 PM (xXhgd)

130 If you can shit yourself on life TV while kicking another man's ass ... that's weirdly impressive.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 07:28 PM (ZPrif)

yo! you need to change the channel sometimes

Posted by: Winner of last years Iroman at January 16, 2014 03:30 PM (W6iIX)

131 So, who is this Rorschach guy, and why did he draw so many pictures of grandpa standing in a wading pool full of lobsters & fucking a cheese-donkey while playing the bagpipes?

Posted by: OG Celtic-Americanstein at January 16, 2014 03:30 PM (vHRtU)

132 If you can shit yourself on life TV while kicking another man's ass ... that's weirdly impressive.

Ed Schultz does it all the time, it's not that big of a deal.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 16, 2014 03:31 PM (+lsX1)

133 So Romero got the shit beat out of him.

Posted by: real joe at January 16, 2014 03:31 PM (xXhgd)

134
I expect they will receive the save harsh treatment given to the IRS people for using their power for political purposes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 16, 2014 03:32 PM (n0DEs)

135 >>Reminds me of Citizen X, the Russian serial killer. Best line in that movie... I could not ... achieve .....release. Only rich men can afford cheese in Russia.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2014 03:32 PM (g1DWB)

136 EPA, energy, the drought out West... being a person of interest = arrest hm, as things turned out in AZ the other year, it was illegal immigrants who set the wildfires that burned out of control but hey, we needs MORE "low skilled" arsonists, pleeze, so keep those borders open LA Times: Wildfire near Los Angeles: Three people arrested, emergency declared Glendora police Lt. James De Mond confirmed three people had been arrested. He had no other information, including what the allegations against the three people were or where they were taken into custody. Â“They are persons of interest in this fire,Â” he said. Arson investigators were at the scene of a wildfire near Los Angeles that exploded in size Thursday to more than 1,700 acres and destroyed at least two homes, authorities said. Three people had been arrested in connection with the fast-moving Colby fire, but Glendora police declined to provide further information. L.A. County fire Inspector Scott Miller said the cause of the fire, reported shortly before 6 a.m., was still under investigation, but said arson investigators were on hand and working with Glendora police. http://tinyurl.com/n4qbz2o

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 16, 2014 03:32 PM (MhA4j)

137

hey bro, the EPA is looking out for me

Posted by: Our Plannet at January 16, 2014 03:33 PM (W6iIX)

138 a foreign ninny named Katty Kay* suggested yesterday that perhaps Chris Stevens is to blame for getting himself and three others killed *Howie Carr said, "Katty Kay?? Sounds like the name of a doll."

Posted by: soothsayer at January 16, 2014 03:33 PM (plJvF)

139 He also punched the other dude in the dick. Ah, the old punch them in the junk ploy.

Posted by: Inspector Clouseau[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 16, 2014 03:33 PM (P7Wsr)

140 I filmed 17 porn movies yesterday.

Posted by: Katty Kay[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 16, 2014 03:35 PM (P7Wsr)

141 To think that way back in the '80's I belonged to the Sierra Club and thought it was a noble organization. But then, I also gave Amnesty International money in those days, which I thought would help brave Soviet dissidents and not Muzzie scumbags.

Posted by: Donna V. at January 16, 2014 03:35 PM (R3gO3)

142 None of this shit will be punished. It would take a sizable chunk of the American taxpayers saying "ENOUGH" We are shuttering our business or taking leave w/o pay to shut down tax flow until --- pick top target --- is tried and convicted and new management of (EPA, DOJ.....) is picked out by a committee of 1 dem senator, 1 gop senator and 3 random small business owners.

Do it once and then a month later announce the next target and they will fold that much faster. Of course I know that this will never happen because there is no one with significant influence who would volunteer to become government enemy #1 to champion it and even if there was, there probably are not enough people who would step up and put themselves through some temporary economic pain to bring the government to heel.

Posted by: palerider, anticipating the new Chinese overlords at January 16, 2014 03:35 PM (dkExz)

143 Will it be the traditional Markhov 9mm therapy or, this being America, will a new prescription be offered at far greater expense?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 16, 2014 07:27 PM (sQ0LB)

This is America!

.45ACP, bitchez.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 16, 2014 03:35 PM (yh0zB)

144 The EPA head learned about this when you did, when she read the paper this morning. *** Rogue agents in Cincinnati no doubt

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 16, 2014 03:35 PM (DmNpO)

145 There have been 3 confirmed mid-fight UFC self-shattings. And all 3 won their fight.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 03:36 PM (ZPrif)

146

Posted by: panzernashorn at January 16, 2014

waiting for the head choppers to figgure out that forest fire jihad would cost a lot of the joos in 'Merica alot of dollars

Posted by: swimming fish at January 16, 2014 03:36 PM (W6iIX)

147 We have a clown car of an administration that gets caught at every thing they do wrong. A media that looks lie that three monkey statue you all know so well. And the opposition party is led by two old drunks the junior of witch having a tanning addiction. And the people of this country are so addicted to their i-phones they don't care what is going on. And you wonder why I drink.

Posted by: oc joe at January 16, 2014 03:36 PM (hqVUe)

148 The EPA wants to put us back in chains.

Posted by: Jango Unchained at January 16, 2014 03:37 PM (qGcMV)

149 And all 3 won their fight.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 07:36 PM (ZPrif)

who wants to fight some poop covered guy?

Posted by: swimming fish at January 16, 2014 03:37 PM (W6iIX)

150 121

If you can shit yourself on life TV while kicking another man's ass ... that's weirdly impressive.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 07:28 PM (ZPrif)

It would have been far more impressive had done all of that while shitting in Sarah Palin's mouth.

Posted by: Martin Bashir at January 16, 2014 03:37 PM (M5T54)

151 Dudes kick each other in the nads on accident pretty often in UFC fights. Dick punches are much rarer though. It was a nice punch. He faked high and then punched the other dude right in his dick.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 03:38 PM (ZPrif)

152 And you wonder why I drink.

Posted by: oc joe at January 16, 2014 07:36 PM (hqVUe)

the fuck I do.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 16, 2014 03:38 PM (yh0zB)

153 Just heard Sammy Hagar on a radio ad urging me to buy Obamacare. Guess he's waiting on another liver.

Posted by: Icedog at January 16, 2014 03:38 PM (uZ6Ul)

154 140 Donna V. at January 16, 2014 07:35 PM (R3gO3)

We're all young, I was pretty much taught to hate Marxism and its enablers young.

Nothing wrong with idealism you can grow out of.

It's the religious fervor the kids now have that is daunting.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 03:39 PM (TE35l)

155 >>There have been 3 confirmed mid-fight UFC self-shattings. >>And all 3 won their fight. Why do you know this?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2014 03:39 PM (g1DWB)

156 It was on a post-fight podcast I listened to today.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 03:40 PM (ZPrif)

157 142 44 Magnum does a body good and no cases are ejected. But bludgeons and blades are best in the opening stages. The time for the long guns comes later. A sidearm is merely a handy tool for when ammo for the long gun runs out.

Posted by: Henry Bowman at January 16, 2014 03:42 PM (hpgw1)

158 So I got a new laptop to replace my dead Acer. I got an HP 2000 with windows8 pre-installed. And then I fucked up royally...I turned it on.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 16, 2014 03:42 PM (yh0zB)

159 There have been 3 confirmed mid-fight UFC self-shattings. And all three won their fights.

So, I should bet on the guy who shits himself just like I should bet on the pony that craps before the race?

Posted by: no good deed at January 16, 2014 03:42 PM (vBhbc)

160 Neu Poot.

Posted by: johnd01 at January 16, 2014 03:42 PM (r0+v0)

161 159 Neu Poot. Posted by: johnd01 at January 16, 2014 07:42 PM (r0+v0) And poof! It's gone.

Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2014 03:43 PM (sdi6R)

162 Magic Johnson, "Buy Obamacare!! If it was not for government medicine...and my multi-million dollar bank account, I would have died decades ago."

Posted by: Icedog at January 16, 2014 03:44 PM (uZ6Ul)

163 A journalist actually asked about it in the post-fight press conference. Dana White, UFC prez, tried to be funny and told him to stop asking "shitty questions". It was an odd situation. The fighter denies it. but the video was pretty damning.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 16, 2014 03:45 PM (ZPrif)

164 And now it's back.

Posted by: rickl at January 16, 2014 03:45 PM (sdi6R)

165 And you wonder why I drink.

Posted by: oc joe at January 16, 2014 07:36 PM (hqVUe)

Not really . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 16, 2014 03:45 PM (8lmkt)

166 Every one of our hard working employees has their very own Farmer! Posted by: Department of Agriculture Not me anymore you bureaucratic cokesuckers. When I started farming in 1980 the USDA required a few forms. By the time the family farm was sold in 2012 the paperwork had multiplied probably 10 fold. The county folks here were great, just doing what they had to. I emailed the county head when I was done farming and he responded "Thank you for your kind words and support over the years! Working with farmers such as you have been our motivation which helped us administer some of the most complicated programs known to man!"

Posted by: The Farmer at January 16, 2014 03:46 PM (eBupg)

167 Laugh it up. At least I'm oblivious.

Posted by: Napolean IVth at January 16, 2014 07:12 PM (6TB1Z)

You from Zimbabwe, too? Small world.

Posted by: Barky the Won at January 16, 2014 03:46 PM (60Q+L)

168 I know we've touched on this before, but windows 8 is a miserable pulsating ball of suck and fail. First I screwed up by setting up an account using my WindowsLive ID. Windows 8 then polled every computer on my home network and pulled off my settings from the desktop that is also loaded with windows 8. This intrusiveness is a feature, by the way.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 16, 2014 03:46 PM (yh0zB)

169 Someone get the ear of the next candidate and mention Amendment 14 section 3 as a direct relief of this unconscionable bullcrap. Declare the EPA, IRS, and FBI corruptocrats in rebellion against the constitution and permanently bar them from (1) every pension payment and government job for all time and (2) the soil of the US. Then frogmarch them out of our land and direct weapons fire against any that attempt to return.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 16, 2014 03:48 PM (g/68I)

170 Last but not least, I can't load my printer software onto the new computer because it's already sent its name to the printer, so the printer won't let me set up for it. Apparently there is this thing in 8 that automagically connects to everyfuckingthing even if it doesn't have the proper drivers...which since I have a printer that is more than a year old, it doesn't have. I loaded it on my desktop with win8 no problems, but with the laptop...nope.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 16, 2014 03:49 PM (yh0zB)

171 GGE, go to iobit and get their Start Menu replacement. it's free and it works.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 16, 2014 03:50 PM (g/68I)

172
44 Magnum does a body good and no cases are ejected. But bludgeons and blades are best in the opening stages. The time for the long guns comes later. A sidearm is merely a handy tool for when ammo for the long gun runs out.

Posted by: Henry Bowman at January 16, 2014 07:42 PM (hpgw1)

Henry, the surprise 9mm to the back of the head was the preferred way of executing political prisoners in the USSR. The basement of the KGB headquarters was notorious for it. Bludgeons, blades and long guns are generally not the weapon of choice for this sort of assassination, althoug an ice pick was the weapon of choice once, and garrotings were not unheard of.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 16, 2014 03:50 PM (sQ0LB)

173 So, I'm nuking it back to the factory settings and I'll set it up all over again. It's been resetting now for an hour and a half and it is 18 percent done. At this rate it will be ready to go...tomorrow night.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 16, 2014 03:50 PM (yh0zB)

174 GGE, go to iobit and get their Start Menu replacement. it's free and it works.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 16, 2014 07:50 PM (g/68I)

Believe me, the start menu was the least of my problems.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 16, 2014 03:51 PM (yh0zB)

175 GGE, I got a new computer (PC) at the office a few months ago. My IT guy got me one with Windows 7 (which is also a frontrunner in the suckitude department), because he said I would *hate* Windows 8. Sorry for your troubles.

Posted by: Peaches at January 16, 2014 03:52 PM (8lmkt)

176 >>Why do you know this? Posted by: JackStraw Gotta respect a man who knows his shit.

Posted by: Aviator at January 16, 2014 03:52 PM (DI+ja)

177

Hey Peaches!!

I like Windows 7 as an OS, at least compared to the other recent MS offerings. I don't have the time or patience to learn something like Linux.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 16, 2014 03:53 PM (sQ0LB)

178 Hey, Crank!!! How's your smokin' hot self doing this fine summery evening?

Posted by: Peaches at January 16, 2014 03:56 PM (8lmkt)

179 Working in the ER again Peaches. Mrs. Crank will be at 19 weeks tomorrow, we're very excited.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at January 16, 2014 03:58 PM (sQ0LB)

180 I've got some aged gouda in the fridge that's getting me pretty hot. Posted by: I need a cool new sig I've got some 7 yo WI Cheddar that is great! To eat you pervs. Try Dairy State Cheese in Rudolph WI, much cheaper than the stuff by the interstate. I think it's 7.99 vs. the usual 14.99 or more. Bought some 25 yo a few years back. Lady said you'll never see it again, no one wants to tie up their money that long. She was right.

Posted by: The Farmer at January 16, 2014 04:01 PM (eBupg)

181 This kind of shit will continue to occur until the rogue government employees and their partners in corruption become afraid to engage in it. Normally, such fear comes as a result of learning that other such rogue employees and their dance partners have been arrested, tried, and sentenced to a long term in prison. But when you have a rogue government in power, that source of fear is extinguished.

I have to admit that any idea for an alternate source of fear to use against these people totally continues to elude me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2014 04:03 PM (60Q+L)

182 180 Alberta Oil Peon at January 16, 2014 08:03 PM (60Q+L)

Me too...

I wish I were more creative...

it reminds me of Dryden...

"Beware the fury of a patient man..."

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 16, 2014 04:05 PM (TE35l)

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