April 29, 2014

Donald Sterling Receives Lifetime Ban From NBA
— Ace


I'm not sure what this means, and I will find out in the next few minutes. (I thought it was more important to get breaking news up.)

My guess is that this is a ban on his day-to-day participation in the club. He won't be permitted to make decisions for his own business. He's being forced into a completely passive ownership role. He'll still own the team, technically, but someone else will run it, and he'll be banned fro interfering.

Who the heck gets to pick the new team caretaker is beyond me.

Hmm: Maybe the league's power is less well defined than I thought:

Q: What penalties can Silver issue?

A: Under the provisions of the bylaws, Silver has two sets of powers that he may use. Under either, he can issue a lifetime suspension and a substantial fine. Under Paragraph 24(l) of the constitution that was adopted by the NBA owners on Oct. 26, 2005, he can issue a fine of up to $2.5 million, can suspend an owner indefinitely and can order the forfeiture of draft picks. This provision applies to situations that are not covered by specific rules within the constitution.

In another provision, Paragraph 35(A)(c), Silver can issue an indefinite suspension and a fine of $1 million to any owner who "makes ... a statement having or designed to have an effect prejudicial or detrimental to the best interests of basketball."

If Silver wants to hammer Sterling, he can assert that Sterling's statements are so
egregious that they go beyond the misconduct contemplated in Paragraph 35 and allow Silver to assess the greater penalties found in Paragraph 24. Sterling can argue that he merely made a statement, but the statement at a minimum allows a lifetime suspension and a $1 million fine.

Q: Is it possible for Silver and the NBA to terminate Sterling's franchise ownership?

A: Yes. Under the terms of Paragraph 13 of the constitution, the owners can terminate another owner's franchise with a vote of three-fourths of the NBA Board of Governors, which is composed of all 30 owners. The power to terminate is limited to things like gambling and fraud in the application for ownership, but it also includes a provision for termination when an owner "fails to fulfill" a "contractual obligation" in "such a way as to affect the [NBA] or its members adversely." Silver and the owners could assert that Sterling's statements violated the constitution's requirements to conduct business on a "reasonable" and "ethical" level.

Thanks to Brian in New Orleans.

Corrected: I wrote, at first, that the commissioner only had the power to institute a 1-year suspension, because that's what I... well, heard from another commentator (Earl Ofari Hutchinson). But Brian's link seems to indicate the commissioner has more power than that.

I retract my claim. I don't know the actual powers of the commissioner either way-- but certainly it seems I cannot rely on my previous hearsay belief that only a 1-year suspension was permitted.

Posted by: Ace at 10:21 AM | Comments (621)
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1 And what happens to the leaker?

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 10:22 AM (2AqeI)

2 I don't know from where they conjured this lifetime-ban power.


Found it under the seat cushions.

Posted by: EC at April 29, 2014 10:22 AM (GQ8sn)

3 Does that mean he can't own the team? Has to sell it?

Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 29, 2014 10:23 AM (OS9Kh)

4 Executive Order I guess

Posted by: Erik L at April 29, 2014 10:23 AM (RYQAM)

5 $2.5M fine, lifetime ban, NBA will *try* to force a sale. Requires 75% vote from other owners. Don't think NBA has ever done his, unclear of the legality.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 10:23 AM (ZPrif)

6 What does the lifetime banning include? Going to games? The draft? What?

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 10:23 AM (A98Xu)

7 When will they start giving some of the thug players lifetime bans ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 29, 2014 10:23 AM (nTgAI)

8 ok, imma gonna talk about benghazi on this thread, as the other one became worn out.

Posted by: willow at April 29, 2014 10:23 AM (nqBYe)

9 Bad mindthoughts, bad.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 10:24 AM (2AqeI)

10 The NBA thinks they are Sith Lords.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 10:24 AM (W6ugU)

11 what a terrible racist... who has incidentally made many black millionaires

Posted by: hmm at April 29, 2014 10:24 AM (Uf2JW)

12 Since when was being an asshole a crime?

Posted by: mc at April 29, 2014 10:24 AM (lrfmC)

13 So what can Sterling do to vindictively try to take down the NBA now that he has no incentive to play nice?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 10:24 AM (ZPrif)

14 oalright, not really, i will head back out to cut one last limb from a humongous tree. bl

Posted by: willow at April 29, 2014 10:24 AM (nqBYe)

15 So who did he kill?

Posted by: Max Power at April 29, 2014 10:25 AM (q177U)

16 Sounds like a big court case winding up

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 29, 2014 10:25 AM (nTgAI)

17 I don't know from where they conjured this lifetime-ban power.

All it takes these days is a phone and pen apparently. Oh, and the concentrated effort of a politically weaponized media.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/u] at April 29, 2014 10:25 AM (ujux6)

18 Since when was being an asshole a crime? Since when was he being charged with one?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 10:25 AM (SY2Kh)

19 as to what this means, I don't know yet, but I wrote this in the post: My guess is that this is a ban on his day-to-day participation in the club. He won't be permitted to make decisions for his own business. He's being forced into a completely passive ownership role. He'll still own the team, technically, but someone else will run it, and he'll be banned fro interfering.

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2014 10:25 AM (/FnUH)

20 Thought Crimes are the worst crimes of all.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 10:25 AM (ZPrif)

21 Wow, just wow. WTF has happened to our country?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 29, 2014 10:25 AM (HVff2)

22 He can't even listen to the game on the radio.

Posted by: Max Power at April 29, 2014 10:25 AM (q177U)

23

Q: What penalties can Silver issue?

A: Under the provisions of the bylaws, Silver has two sets of powers that he may use. Under either, he can issue a lifetime suspension and a substantial fine. Under Paragraph 24(l) of the constitution that was adopted by the NBA owners on Oct. 26, 2005, he can issue a fine of up to $2.5 million, can suspend an owner indefinitely and can order the forfeiture of draft picks. This provision applies to situations that are not covered by specific rules within the constitution. In another provision, Paragraph 35(A)(c), Silver can issue an indefinite suspension and a fine of $1 million to any owner who "makes ... a statement having or designed to have an effect prejudicial or detrimental to the best interests of basketball." If Silver wants to hammer Sterling, he can assert that Sterling's statements are so egregious that they go beyond the misconduct contemplated in Paragraph 35 and allow Silver to assess the greater penalties found in Paragraph 24. Sterling can argue that he merely made a statement, but the statement at a minimum allows a lifetime suspension and a $1 million fine.

Q: Is it possible for Silver and the NBA to terminate Sterling's franchise ownership?

A: Yes. Under the terms of Paragraph 13 of the constitution, the owners can terminate another owner's franchise with a vote of three-fourths of the NBA Board of Governors, which is composed of all 30 owners. The power to terminate is limited to things like gambling and fraud in the application for ownership, but it also includes a provision for termination when an owner "fails to fulfill" a "contractual obligation" in "such a way as to affect the [NBA] or its members adversely." Silver and the owners could assert that Sterling's statements violated the constitution's requirements to conduct business on a "reasonable" and "ethical" level.

Any owner or Silver can initiate the termination procedure with a written charge describing the violation. Sterling would have five days to respond to the charge with a written answer. The commissioner would then schedule a special meeting of the NBA Board of Governors within 10 days. Both sides would have a chance to present their evidence, and then the board would vote. If three-fourths of the board members vote to terminate, then Sterling would face termination of his ownership. It would require a vote of two-thirds of the board to reduce the termination to a fine. Terminating a franchise would obviously be a drastic remedy, but the potential of the termination procedure gives Silver and the other owners vast leverage in any discussion with Sterling about an involuntary sale of his team.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/10852199/challenge-donald-sterling

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 10:26 AM (3AsfL)

24 Banned for life means banned for life or until it is lifted by the way. Hey is he banned from getting blow jobs from more 30 year old girls?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:26 AM (t3UFN)

25 He's a witch!

Posted by: NotCoach at April 29, 2014 10:26 AM (rsudF)

26 ANTI-RACISM-RULE-TRANSCENDING SUPERPOWERS ACTIVATED!!!

Posted by: Red Widow at April 29, 2014 10:26 AM (FYpvq)

27 Maybe those tapes have conversations of other people's bad mindthoughts, too. Let 'em rip.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 10:26 AM (2AqeI)

28 I don't watch NBA "thug ball" anymore, but I don't like this decision very much.  Doesn't seem to me like they can legally do this. 

So, is the NAACP still going to let him keep his achievement award? 

Posted by: TheresaD at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (eANiA)

29 If Obama had a son, just who the fuck would he look like? Blake Griffin, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaq? C'mon horde an inquiring mind wants to know.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (HVff2)

30 One must a real fucking imbecile to support pro sports today.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (thLL8)

31 >>>Since when was he being charged with one? not a crime, but if the league is exceeding its power and invalidating a contract it has with Sterling (AFAIK they only have the power to issue a 1-year suspension), that's a pretty big unlawful unilateral change in contractual terms, all premised on the idea that racists have no rights.

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (/FnUH)

32 On the plus side, he's 80 and may have dimentia, so a life-time anything isn't all that long.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (8zTpe)

33 He's not allowed to even read about the games in the newspaper.

Posted by: Max Power at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (q177U)

34 Unreal. I hope he sells the team to his wife for a dollar. Magic Johnson is behind this. None of this in any way mitigates what Sterling said. But that's not the issue. And yet Jesse Jackson, Farrakhan, Sharpton, Spike Lee, Jamie Foxx and every other piece of shit Lefty gets a pass because, victimhood-social justice.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (CMkNk)

35 For the act of thought crime, you  have been banned for life from your own multimillion dollar property and its operations.


You, the Knicks player who called for an all-black basketball league?   You're cool.  No worries.  Want a raise?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (4df7R)

36 Sterling, Silver... really?

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (MNq6o)

37 So, is the NAACP still going to let him keep his achievement award? Posted by: TheresaD at April 29, 2014 02:27 PM (eANiA) Is the Nobel Peace Prize committee gong to let obama keep his?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:27 AM (t3UFN)

38 " 7 When will they start giving some of the thug players lifetime bans ? " That would be RAYCISS!!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 10:28 AM (gOoFi)

39 "And what happens to the leaker? Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 02:22 PM"


Ka-Ching!!!$$$$!!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2014 10:28 AM (knoK7)

40 When you consider what some NBA players have done in their private lives--violence, domestic assault, reneging on child support payments--this punishment goes too far.

These were comments made in private, for goodness sake.  Shouldn't his public actions matter more?

Posted by: Cory at April 29, 2014 10:28 AM (wgYuH)

41 29 If Obama had a son, just who the fuck would he look like? Blake Griffin, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaq? C'mon horde an inquiring mind wants to know. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 29, 2014 02:27 PM (HVff2) A dickless Ethan Krupp, but that's redundant.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:28 AM (CMkNk)

42 He won't be permitted to make decisions for his own business. He's being forced into a completely passive ownership role. He'll still own the team, technically, but someone else will run it, and he'll be banned fro interfering. Posted by: ace at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (/FnUH) As Hollowpoint pointed out it's a private organization but this ban seems far reaching and legally shaky.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 10:28 AM (A98Xu)

43 The NBA is a private organization, of which Sterling is a member. How they choose to enforce their own rules is their business. They don't need evidence of a criminal act, nor should they so long as they adhere to the terms of whatever contract the parties entered into.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 10:28 AM (SY2Kh)

44 I hope he sells the team to his wife for a dollar. Doesn't have to. She already co-owns the team

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:28 AM (t3UFN)

45 Sterling, Silver... really? Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 02:27 PM (MNq6o) Irony was on vacation, sipping a bourbon when the phone rang.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:28 AM (x3YFz)

46 Rules for Filthy Rich Old Guys:


Don't have a mistress(es).  Use whores.

Posted by: EC at April 29, 2014 10:28 AM (GQ8sn)

47 The ability to take Property... to punish... because you don't like something someone said... Even though what they said was perfectly legal. This is NOT the country of our Grandfathers.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (84gbM)

48 One must a real fucking imbecile to support pro sports today.
Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines

Amen.

Fuck 'em all.

Carry on.

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (MNq6o)

49 The takeaway from all this is two words: Hateful views.

Posted by: Soothsayer, performance artist at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (8UCj3)

50 I'll be the new caretaker of the team for a slight phenomenal fee, of course. And I promise to have a better girlfriend, too. She won't be able to record anything because I'll make sure she's not wearing clothes whenever we're together. Security, and all that.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (0HooB)

51 "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" or it'll cost you $2.5 million. Sincerely, Adam Silver

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (2AqeI)

52 35 You, the Knicks player who called for an all-black basketball league? You're cool. No worries. Want a raise? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 29, 2014 02:27 PM (4df7R) The irony of a black man calling for segregation into a neo-Negro league is lost on most. And it's absolutely stunning.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (CMkNk)

53 "One must a real fucking imbecile to support pro sports today." I have fallen a long way. Don't give a shit about football anymore. Never cared for b-ball or hockey. Like to go to a Rangers game every now and then because it's such a pleasant experience.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (gOoFi)

54 I'm sure the other owners are all choir boys,like the Putin crony who owns the Nets.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (zqvg6)

55 Rules for Filthy Rich Old Guys:


Don't have a mistress(es). Use whores.

Posted by: EC at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (GQ8sn)



When in the presence of your mistress/whore, don't speak.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (4df7R)

56 "...he'll be banned fro interfering." I see what you did there.

Posted by: Shane McGowan's Liver at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (s/Q41)

57 22He can't even listen to the game on the radio.

Posted by: Max Power

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks.  That's the hardest I've laughed in a week.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (eEBON)

58 Is the $2.5 million a fine or a tax?

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 10:29 AM (2AqeI)

59 Contract law and precedent? Didn't Obama throw all of that out the window with the GM bailout?

Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (OS9Kh)

60 Shorter NBA Commissioner: You didn't build that, so Imma gonna effectively take it away from you now.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (8zTpe)

61 He can't even play a game of H-O-R-S-E.  Not allowed.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (BAS5M)

62
Well, he's like 107 so life isn't too long.  That said I guess there are by laws and such for the league but apparently this may just be a made up penalty.

I also don't get that someone can lose property for being a racist.  Can you lose property for being against gay marriage?  or amnesty? or let's say you don't believe islam is a religion but a socio-fanatical-fascist movement?

But I won't lose any sleep of this guy, a really strange kind of racist though isn't he?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (hJauc)

63 So who benefits?

The trophy wench?  Or Magic who can now possibly buy the Clippers for a bargain because Sterling is now under the gun to sell.

Follow the money in this sordid affair.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (W6ugU)

64 He still gets to keep his NAACP Lifetime Achievement Award, however.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (Fp7JI)

65 Sterling should simply shut down today. Immediately cancel their insurance, fire the coaches, the staff, the team. Sell it later. Let the league that just effectively kicked him out deal with the mess. It sounds like he has no motive to continue, why should he? Might as well go out as a bitter old bastard.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (ZshNr)

66 Who will dare to ask Magic Johnson if he set this up?

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (MMC8r)

67 I hope the whole fuckin league folds and they all have to go out and get real jobs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (t3UFN)

68 46 Rules for Filthy Rich Old Guys: Don't have a mistress(es). Use whores. Posted by: EC at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (GQ8sn) Unless you're "of color."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (CMkNk)

69

this is an unlawful taking

 

he should sue

 

but they are going to make it so expensive for him, he will be forced to sell

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (zOTsN)

70 Hmmm--who will the caretaker/purchaser be? I'm betting Magic Johnson. Concede that Sterling is a schmuck. Does he have the remaining cojones to do an Al Davis and sue the bejesus out of the NBA? Whatever happens I'd say that the existing Clippers team has been destroyed. Doubt that anybody will come play for them, and the existing players will slough off those Clipper contracts like an ice cube melting on the 4th of July. Ms. Stifianao was an extremely expensive piece of tail.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 29, 2014 10:30 AM (wdHk6)

71 "Use whores" Get the business taken care of up front.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (gOoFi)

72 67 I hope the whole fuckin league folds and they all have to go out and get real jobs Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 02:30 PM (t3UFN) In THIS economy?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (CMkNk)

73 Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (SY2Kh) They are levying a 2.5 Million dollar fine.... for speech... That is just plain UnAmerican.... and hiding behind 'its a private company' does not make it right.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (84gbM)

74 How is it that this is news? Because, really, who gives a shit beyond the media's overblown reaction to it? Meanwhile Putin is playing Hitler in eastern Europe? I mean really. Who actually cares if some 80 year old billionaire says "ni gger?"

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (x3YFz)

75 46 Rules for Filthy Rich Old Guys: Don't have a mistress(es). Use whores. Posted by: EC at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (GQ8sn) And by all means keep your mouth shut unless its open on a mommy part.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (HVff2)

76 Your life can undergo a complete upheaval now over any private conversation deemed improper. Welcome to tyranny.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (1Y+hH)

77 NBA = HOA

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (MMC8r)

78 Guy gets economic hardship from information illegally obtained by illegal wiretap.  Lawsuit anyone?

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (MNq6o)

79 >>Is the $2.5 million a fine or a tax? Or hared responsibility fee? ---- Also, isn't it odd that 2.5 million is the same amount that Sterling spent on the mistress that the wife is attempting to recover?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (8zTpe)

80 Donald Sterling, DEMOCRAT.

Posted by: Nancy Drew and The Case of the Disappearing Facts at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (yhJhK)

81 Yes. Under the terms of Paragraph 13 of the
constitution, the owners can terminate another owner's franchise with a
vote of three-fourths of the NBA Board of Governors, which is composed
of all 30 owners. The power to terminate is limited to things like
gambling and fraud in the application for ownership, but it also
includes a provision for termination when an owner "fails to fulfill" a
"contractual obligation" in "such a way as to affect the [NBA] or its
members adversely." Silver and the owners could assert that Sterling's
statements violated the constitution's requirements to conduct business
on a "reasonable" and "ethical" level.

Any owner or Silver can initiate the termination procedure with a
written charge describing the violation. Sterling would have five days
to respond to the charge with a written answer. The commissioner would
then schedule a special meeting of the NBA Board of Governors within 10
days. Both sides would have a chance to present their evidence, and then
the board would vote. If three-fourths of the board members vote to
terminate, then Sterling would face termination of his ownership. It
would require a vote of two-thirds of the board to reduce the
termination to a fine. Terminating a franchise would obviously be a
drastic remedy, but the potential of the termination procedure gives
Silver and the other owners vast leverage in any discussion with
Sterling about an involuntary sale of his team.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/10852199/challenge-donald-sterling

Posted by: Brian in New

 

 

they have not done any of that

 

 

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (zOTsN)

82 It sounds like he has no motive to continue, why should he? Well the team is worth 500 to 900 million dollars. taht is some motivation

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (t3UFN)

83 The guy is what, 81 years old? How long would a 'lifetime' ban be? A week? Maybe 3?

Posted by: Mr Wolf at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (nRgwZ)

84 Lucky  he didn't use the term 'typical black person'  in his statements.   He might have become  President  or  something.

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (m2CN7)

85 And when people learn to hide any thought that could be considered racist in order to avoid punishment, Lefties will go back to "fighting" "institutional racism." 

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 29, 2014 10:31 AM (EQcfE)

86 Brian in New Orleans' link suggests that I am wrong with my "1-year suspension" notion. His link claims that the league chairman can suspend anyone "indefinitely" for a raft of vague reasons.

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (/FnUH)

87 The NBA League Constitution isn't an "open" document, as are the MLB and the NFL. It is hard to find the rules, guidelines and penalties. I'm trying to find the name of the ESPN Legal Analyst, as he had details, (including the "Lifetime-Ban" option), on Mike & Mike this morning. He seemed to have more details than anyone else I've heard.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (lq3Ak)

88 Anyone else notice this shit seems to be picking up speed ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (XWw96)

89 These were comments made in private, for goodness sake. Shouldn't his public actions matter more? Posted by: Cory at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (wgYuH) Cory, report to the camp.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (2AqeI)

90

I suspect they are going way overboard just to make a point and be able to say they really hit him hard for being an idiot.  Once this blows over his lawyers and the NBA lawyers will get together and quietly hash this out.

 

This is all smack talk right now and the NBA will be forced to walk most of it back in the near future.  They just want to appear strong and forceful right now.

Posted by: Registered Voter at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (Rm+rQ)

91 Absurd. As Mark Cuban said, this is a country where you can be a moron. Or, at least it used to be.

I remember a time when a player could choke his coach and not get anywhere near this type of reaction.

Posted by: Chris at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (gI9Bk)

92 Media are asking stupid questions, as usual. Many of the stupid questions is the same question: What took so long to punish this known racist? In other words, why did you make us wait so long for this witch hunt??

Posted by: Soothsayer, performance artist at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (8UCj3)

93 2.5 million: A mear bag of nuts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (t3UFN)

94 If I were Sterling, I would sell it to anyone but Magic. Can he sell it for a buck to his wife? Somehow I think the league has to approve of any sale. Well played, Magic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (CMkNk)

95 I mean really. Who actually cares if some 80 year old billionaire says Did he even say that? All I remember hearing is 'black.'

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (MMC8r)

96 If this requires a 75% vote by other owners I'm not sure that's going to happen.  I am sure that Sterling is not the only guy with a colorful background and Mark Cuban has said that this would be a slippery slope.

Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (G+Wff)

97 what happens to his health care?  Does he get a subsidy?


free BJs for life?

Posted by: Milly ( Millicent ) Twattenburger, State Dept Spokesperson at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (JyjXt)

98 ever watch an eminem video? Where's the outrage? Save it for someone who doesn't play moral equivalency.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:32 AM (x3YFz)

99 Who will dare to ask Magic Johnson if he set this up? Posted by: ---

He probably didn't act alone.  Must have had aids.

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (MNq6o)

100 double plus ungood thoughts subject you to civil forfeiture nowadays, dontchaknow

Posted by: forward! at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (Uf2JW)

101

If Silver wants to hammer Sterling, he can assert that Sterling's statements are so
egregious that they go beyond the misconduct contemplated in Paragraph 35 and allow Silver to assess the greater penalties found in Paragraph 24. Sterling can argue that he merely made a statement, but the statement at a minimum allows a lifetime suspension and a $1 million fine

 

 

the statements were private, and not in a public forum nor intended for public consumption

 

the only one who made it public and harmed basketball was his rent a slut

 

loser argument

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (zOTsN)

102

Silver and the owners could assert that Sterling's
statements violated the constitution's requirements to conduct business
on a "reasonable" and "ethical" level.

 

Except he was not conducting business.  

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (m2CN7)

103 I remember a time when a player could choke his coach and not get anywhere near this type of reaction. Posted by: Chris at April 29, 2014 02:32 PM (gI9Bk) well it was only a white coach

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (t3UFN)

104 When in the presence of your mistress/whore, don't speak.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (4df7R)



And kill them if you feel like it.

Posted by: King Joffrey at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (GQ8sn)

105 We ban thee.

Posted by: eman at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (Wm+3F)

106 He can't go to NBA games. So now he'll be just like everyone else.

Posted by: Mega at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (hHFOx)

107 46 Rules for Filthy Rich Old Guys:


Don't have a mistress(es). Use whores.
***

From what I've seen and read so far, he covered both of those bases in one package.

Posted by: B at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (twiRb)

108 When will opposing Gay Marriage be grounds for being stripped of ownership of a pro sports franchise? No owning a pro sports team while Catholic.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (ZPrif)

109 ...and there you have it. Lester Munson. Thanks, Brian. I would have been searching for that for quite awhile!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (lq3Ak)

110 Bans for doing meanie stuff in your spare time? I guess Green Chucky Smallballs is running the NBA. Good to know. At least that's in their rights. After a lifetime ban, though, I am interested in what authority they're imposing a fine. If I were sterling, i'd print out a mattress of small bills, strip to my wrinkly old body and jump on the mattress like scrooge Mc Duck. And then tell them they're welcome to TRY to take the bills

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (RTQgm)

111 Don't have a mistress(es). Use whores.

What category do the Walmart mutants fall into?

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (L02KD)

112

About the NBA being a private organization.  Tell me, do they play in privately-owned facilities?  Broadcast their games over a private network?

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2014 10:33 AM (BAS5M)

113

Rules for Filthy Rich Old Guys:


Don't have a mistress(es). Use whores.

 

Probably a good idea for us filthy rich young guys too.

Posted by: Tiger Woods at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (NF2Bf)

114 "Must have had aids." Dude.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (gOoFi)

115 Sterling should just shut down Clipper operations in preparation of selling the Clipper brand.

So he releases the players and staff from their contracts.  Sells off the building.  And then sells the name and merchandising contracts to new owner.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (W6ugU)

116 Rules for Filthy Rich Old Guys: Don't have a mistress(es). Use whores. Posted by: EC at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (GQ8sn) If it flies, floats or fucks, rent it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (TIIx5)

117 And the next time that you check into a hotel in a major city and see some huge, ridiculous tax added to your room rate?  Remember that money is likely going to pay for some huge stadium to support this bullshit.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (eEBON)

118 From a business perspective, the NBA and the other owners were backed into a corner by this asshole. Like it or not, his actions directly impact the bottom line of every other team, which is why they have an ownership constitution with these provisions. Hopefully he'll learn a lesson from this and the next time he gets mad at his mistress he'll just knock her around a little instead of talking about the coloreds.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (+lsX1)

119 Listen, you guys, Roger Stirling is a fictional character in "Mad Men"


we need to go after the script writers.



Posted by: Milly ( Millicent ) Twattenburger, State Dept Spokesperson at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (JyjXt)

120 How many NBA, NFL, MLB, or NHL owners have ever used the word "fag"? Is it on tape?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (ZPrif)

121 Funny thing is, if he had taken his own advice, this never would have happened.  Stupid Democrat!

Posted by: La Razor at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (yhJhK)

122

it was private

 

it was not public

 

he was illegally recorded

 

he did not ever make it public, she did

 

ban her for life

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (zOTsN)

123 He should sell the team to Rush Limbaugh for $1.00.

Posted by: eman at April 29, 2014 10:34 AM (Wm+3F)

124 Sterling should simply shut down today. Immediately cancel their insurance, fire the coaches, the staff, the team. Sell it later. Let the league that just effectively kicked him out deal with the mess. It sounds like he has no motive to continue, why should he? Might as well go out as a bitter old bastard.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 02:30 PM (ZshNr)



This.



I get that the NBA is a private organization with its    own  rules and bylaws.  Fine.  Whatever.  If   Sterling had said what he said in a public space, at an   event or in an interview or somewhere else where he had no expectation of privacy, then yeah, I   wouldn't really care what they do.  But that they're levying this sanction against him based on something he said in what he BELIEVED was a private conversation   leaves a bad   taste in my mouth.    Tastes like tyranny, where   you can't trust a g-ddamn person   because    absolutely anyone   could be taping you  or recording you or transcribing your words in order to turn you in   to the   Stasi KGB  Gestapo     the guys in power.



Get some recordings of private conversations between the players,  or other team owners, or coaches, or members of the NBA administration,   and  we'll    see if they should be so damn eager to cast the first stone.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 10:35 AM (4df7R)

125 Wow, just wow. WTF has happened to our country? If his ownership contract allows for this type of punishment, this reflects in no way on our country. If however this punishment is a breech of contract, well, we'll see what happens then.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 29, 2014 10:35 AM (WhJf8)

126 He's beaten the rap once before from the NBA comish office, getting some fine reduced significantly, so it will be interesting to see if he beats this one to a certain extent, too.

I don't really care for the guy - he's not someone I'd rent from if I had to, given what I've read of him - but I really don't care all that much about the NBA, either. 

Posted by: Peach Baskets at April 29, 2014 10:35 AM (lvHfd)

127 Sterling should have seen this coming and yesterday signed a team of midgets to suit up for tonight. 

Posted by: somebody else, not me at April 29, 2014 10:35 AM (29vnO)

128 81 Donald Sterling, DEMOCRAT. Posted by: Nancy Drew and The Case of the Disappearing Facts at April 29, 2014 02:31 PM (yhJhK) I would think that that's more of a matter of the location of his business. When you're under the thumb of the Barzinni's, you don't pay tribute to the Tataglia's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:35 AM (CMkNk)

129 When will opposing Gay Marriage be grounds for being stripped of ownership of a pro sports franchise? Pretty soon. The NFL throw a snit fit when Arizona tried to pass a bill to protect bakers from the Pink Shirts.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 10:35 AM (uhAkr)

130 And Sterling will now go down in history as the Man Who Paid The Most to Get Thoroughly Fucked-Over By A Chick.

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (MMC8r)

131 ban her for life Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 02:34 PM (zOTsN) I suspect her days as a whore with rich guys with something to lose are damn near over. Would you hire her?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (t3UFN)

132 Alec Baldwin is beloved in Hollywood, we've all heard his rants. No principles involved here, just prolonging racial antagonism and a bust-out style takeover of a team.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (ZshNr)

133 Sell the Thug Team to the Chinese.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (thLL8)

134 I mean really. Who actually cares if some 80 year old billionaire says Did he even say that? All I remember hearing is 'black.' Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 02:32 PM (MMC8r) I'd assumed the worst. So you're saying he called a black person 'black?'

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (x3YFz)

135 The wife is co-owner? They can't touch her (yet). So, other than the fine, this is meaningless. As long as the wife doesn't release tapes of private conversations where he gives her advice on the team.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (1Y+hH)

136 this is the Squirrel of the Month;  distracting from Ben Gazi


you gotta admire the craft; like watching a snake glide through wet grass

Posted by: Milly ( Millicent ) Twattenburger, State Dept Spokesperson at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (JyjXt)

137

 Like it or not, his actions directly impact the bottom line of every other team, which is why they have an ownership constitution with these provisions.

 

 

to which I say bullshit

 

do you really think the other teams would not hve season ticket holders because of the Clippers

 

or sell shoes, jerseys and posters

 

and sports manufacturers would stop courting LeBron et all

 

baloney

 

its so their players won't "strike"

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (zOTsN)

138 Posted by: Meremortal at April 29, 2014 02:31 PM (1Y+hH) Yes. Dennis Prager had an interesting take on this regarding private vs public speech. Pillow talk and venting is a poor way to judge a person.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (A98Xu)

139 109 Don't be silly,there's no slippery slope.Ask Gabe.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (zqvg6)

140 Hopefully he'll learn a lesson from this and the next time he gets mad at his mistress he'll just knock her around a little instead of talking about the coloreds.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 02:34 PM (+lsX1)

 

You just made a statement that would be considered racist language which Sterling never used.

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (m2CN7)

141 "Banned for life" cmon he's 80yo. What is that, 3 years? FFS

Posted by: Bigby's Punchy Fist at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (3ZtZW)

142 The 5%ers are still allowed to attend games, though, right?

Posted by: Mega at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (hHFOx)

143 So, has the NBA ever forcibly removed an owner before?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 10:36 AM (ZPrif)

144 Nobody gives a shit about the LA Clippers anyway. I bet less than 10% of the people in this country knew they existed

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:37 AM (t3UFN)

145 Meh, interrupted great soccer game start for that announcement. Munich v Real Madrid!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 29, 2014 10:37 AM (IXrOn)

146 He can't even listen to the game on the radio.Posted by: Max Power


They just came in and removed the Nerf™ basketball hoop from his office.

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 10:37 AM (MNq6o)

147 The irony of a black man calling for segregation into a neo-Negro league is lost on most. And it's absolutely stunning.  Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (CMkNk) ------ The sad part is, that attitude is ubiquitous. I wouldn't be surprised is he were wearing a "FUBU" hat when he made that statement.

Posted by: shredded chi at April 29, 2014 10:37 AM (DSFcs)

148

do you really think the hard core NBA fans will stop watching

 

no, they wont

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:37 AM (zOTsN)

149 And I thought Ace had a wicked fucking ban-hammer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:37 AM (CMkNk)

150

Apparently being a moron is an offense punishable by the equivalent of the death penalty.  Every owner is now a target 24/7.  Every girlfriend a spy.  Every word can and will be used against you.  Ray Nagin says "did I say New Orleans?  I meant the NBA ownership club, one secret recording at a time....."

Posted by: MacGootbone at April 29, 2014 10:37 AM (t4bIp)

151 Will there soon be pictures on the Internet of this trophy wench with the words "Her lips flap" added?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 10:37 AM (W6ugU)

152 How many NBA, NFL, MLB, or NHL owners have ever used the word "fag"? Is it on tape? Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 02:34 PM (ZPrif) how many of us have? how many fags have? Welcome to the world of the perpetually offended.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (x3YFz)

153 LBJ used the n-word like it was "the" or "and." But the media, not once, ever reported on this fact. Why? Because he was a Democrat.

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (mizYg)

154 They are levying a 2.5 Million dollar fine.... for speech... That is just plain UnAmerican.... and hiding behind 'its a private company' does not make it right. He voluntarily entered a contract with the NBA, and his speech was directly related to his role in that organization and reflected badly upon it. Fines are how sports leagues regularly punish infractions, and they're well within their rights to do so.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (SY2Kh)

155 This scandal is distracting us from playoff games full of flops and traveling.

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (EQcfE)

156 do you really think the hard core NBA fans will stop watching no, they wont Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 02:37 PM (zOTsN) Your damn right. All 6 of them!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (t3UFN)

157 Woohoo!  Now it's our turn...

Posted by: The Lawyers at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (TOk1P)

158 Sterling should have just shot the bitch. The penalties would have been less.

Posted by: jukin at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (WGm5T)

159 Unless you've been gangbanged by a bunch of blacks, you're racist.

Posted by: Sandra "Pulling a Gravy Train" Fluke at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (yhJhK)

160 30 One must a real fucking imbecile to support pro sports today. Amen. No new tickets, no new jerseys, no TV appearances at my house, f 'em.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (sAXJ5)

161 148 The sad part is, that attitude is ubiquitous. I wouldn't be surprised is he were wearing a "FUBU" hat when he made that statement. Posted by: shredded chi at April 29, 2014 02:37 PM (DSFcs) Somewhere in Heaven, Jackie Robinson is crying about that. And lest anyone forget how he was treated by the leftists and Panthers before his untimely death.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (CMkNk)

162
The silver lining is this is racist not sexist so Hillary is fucked on using this one.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (hJauc)

163 Selling the team to his wife would be a mistake.  For one thing, she might decide to spite him by going out and winning the NBA championship.  That would require spending more money on the payroll and he's a notorious cheapskate.

Posted by: Peach Baskets at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (lvHfd)

164  Anyone else notice this shit seems to be picking up speed ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 29, 2014 02:32 PM (XWw96)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

Two bright headlights converging on the same track.  Can't hear the locomotives yet, but rails are vibrating.

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2014 10:38 AM (txtYn)

165 >>>46 Rules for Filthy Rich Old Guys: Don't have a mistress(es). Use whores. *** From what I've seen and read so far, he covered both of those bases in one package. ... yeah I think when it's an 80 year old "dating" a 28 year old, the line between "mistress" and "whore" gets even fuzzier than usual.

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (/FnUH)

166 do you really think the hard core NBA fans will stop watching no, they wont Sadly, most here will probably continue to support their revenue stream.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (thLL8)

167 How the fuck does any organization "ban" someone from running their business?

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (u2a4R)

168 Wonder what Mel Gibson's take on this is ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (XWw96)

169 44 I hope he sells the team to his wife for a dollar.


Doesn't have to. She already co-owns the team

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (t3UFN)


And he had a mistress. The possibilities for a vengeful woman are nearly endless.


Oh, and the lifetime suspension thing? Presumably he bought the team with his eyes open. I don't like how this happened and I think the punishment is disproportionate but he did accept the owners' rules when he signed the dotted line.


Oh, one further lesson: If you're anything even close to a public figure, encrypt all communications and choose your whores wisely.

Posted by: joncelli at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (RD7QR)

170 I don't care what Sterling says of thinks. It is only words said in private.

Posted by: Commissar Pug at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (8c12T)

171 137 this is the Squirrel of the Month; distracting from Ben Gazi Black Skwerl. Double win.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (Fp7JI)

172 Selling the team to his wife would be a mistake. For one thing, she might decide to spite him by going out and winning the NBA championship. That would require spending more money on the payroll and he's a notorious cheapskate. Posted by: Peach Baskets at April 29, 2014 02:38 PM (lvHfd) She already co-owns it with him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (t3UFN)

173 Every team owner is now checking his whore for knives and watching his back.

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (MMC8r)

174 109 When will opposing Gay Marriage be grounds for being stripped of ownership of a pro sports franchise? No owning a pro sports team while Catholic. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 02:33 PM (ZPrif) Rush Limbaugh..... NFL....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (84gbM)

175 137 this is the Squirrel of the Month; distracting from Ben Gazi Yes.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (A98Xu)

176 126 Wow, just wow. WTF has happened to our country? If his ownership contract allows for this type of punishment, this reflects in no way on our country. If however this punishment is a breech of contract, well, we'll see what happens then. Posted by: bonhomme at April 29, 2014 02:35 PM (WhJf Doesn't his numerous public lawsuits being sued for discrimination reflect poorly upon him and the NBA? Don't his remarks about minorities in depositions reflect worse than what he said to his girlfriend? Oh yeah its the #waronwomen.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (HVff2)

177 Oswald and Donald Sterling are both fags

Posted by: Michael McManus at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (JyjXt)

178 155 They are levying a 2.5 Million dollar fine.... for speech... That is just plain UnAmerican.... and hiding behind 'its a private company' does not make it right. He voluntarily entered a contract with the NBA, and his speech was directly related to his role in that organization and reflected badly upon it. Fines are how sports leagues regularly punish infractions, and they're well within their rights to do so. Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 02:38 PM (SY2Kh) It was private speech, illegally recorded and released. I would think that in a sane world, that would have a mitigating factor. Then again, fuck all of them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (CMkNk)

179

>>>Did he even say that? All I remember hearing is 'black.'

 

Its like that Flintstones episode where Fred had the gambling addiction and people kept saying 'Bet'

Posted by: Bigby's Punchy Fist at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (3ZtZW)

180 I don't want to be misconstrued as defending this guy because the fact that he's 80 years old and paying millions to a gold digger in her 20s to sleep with/give the impression that she's sleeping with him tells me he's a major a--hole even without the tapes. However, a commentor on another blog I read made a great point about the left's zeal re: hate speech that applies. Hate speech is the new spells/incantations -- words so powerful that they can stop a person in his tracks and limit his future.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (qG1i2)

181 Where is the lifetime ban for Jay-Z for wearing the regalia of and saying he believed in the precepts of a racist group which beliefs white are subhumans? This happened a couple weeks ago. Silence. Why? Democrat.

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 10:39 AM (mizYg)

182

155 -

 

Thank you Mr. Hollowhead, for giving us the "Just Plain UnAmerican" perspective. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 10:40 AM (TOk1P)

183 I am indifferent.

Posted by: toby928© at April 29, 2014 10:40 AM (QupBk)

184 So, just to be clear, he's having his entire business taken away from him for the crime of... Telling his girlfriend to stop bringing black guys to games. I mean, that's all. He didn't call for anyone to be harmed in any way. He didn't make a public racist statement. He had a conversation with his gf and muttered a racist line and...that's it?

Posted by: Lauren at April 29, 2014 10:40 AM (hFL/3)

185

Sigh...

 

So, the league and the owners will now vote to have Sterling sell the team.  I will be interested to see what his estranged wife's reaction to all of this will be.  By the way, EVERYONE in Southern California that has heard of Donald Sterling, was very aware of his racist behavior over the years.  So Magic Johnson and others feigning shock and horror over his comments are full of shit.  It was well known among the league that this guy was an asshole.  Someone needs to go find the former commissioner David Stern and ask his ass why he allowed for this to exist under his 30 year tenure.  I mean, if we are all suppose to be "wee wee'd up" about this, then let's go back and address the long history of this man and the racist behavior of Charles Barkley and others.

 

By the way, the NAACP, the Urban League, 100 Black Men and other left-wing groups were fine with him and his past as long as the money was rolling into their coffers.  But now that he has been exposed via some tape recordings by his trashy ass jump-off...shock and horror!  And both Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton need to keep their racist and anti-Semitic asses out of it.  Hey Al!  Why don't you pay the IRS the back taxes you owe?  I am so fucking tired of the hypocrites.  I made a comment on Facebook about how before blacks lecture whites about the speck in their eye, they (blacks) might want to address the beam in their own eye.  Yeah...that didn't go over too well. 

 

Anyway...I denounce myself for being an Uncle Tom and traitor to the race.  Oh and Larry Johnson...go fuck yourself! 

Posted by: I Be That Chick at April 29, 2014 10:40 AM (GRTce)

186 About the NBA being a private organization. Tell me, do they play in privately-owned facilities? Broadcast their games over a private network?

Did someone force him into signing the ownership agreement? Maybe Magic tricked him into it!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 10:40 AM (+lsX1)

187 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 29, 2014 02:35 PM (4df7R If you're going to operate a high profile organization, you cannot break rule #1 which is "don't generate bad press." Having said that, I have no idea how they intend to enforce a rule that he can't make business decisions with his business.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 10:40 AM (HDwDg)

188 I heard people on the radio slamming him from hiring whores. But didn't Magic Johnson fuck hundreds of women and a few men? No one is criticizing him.

Posted by: Commissar Pug at April 29, 2014 10:40 AM (8c12T)

189 It was only a couple years ago that Rush wasn't even given the opportunity to buy into the Rams because of previous 'racist' remarks.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 29, 2014 10:40 AM (eEBON)

190 If he had made the speech publicly the league had a right to react.He was surreptitiously taped during a private conversation.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2014 10:40 AM (zqvg6)

191 Where is the lifetime ban for Jay-Z for wearing the regalia of and saying he believed in the precepts of a racist group which beliefs white are subhumans? This happened a couple weeks ago. Silence. Why? Democrat. Sterling's a Democrat too. Jay-Z is black. Blacks can be racist if they want.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (uhAkr)

192 Will there soon be pictures on the Internet of this trophy wench with the words "Her lips flap" added?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 02:37 PM (W6ugU)



Or "Snitches Get Stitches?"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (4df7R)

193 One  jew  bastard down,  lots  more to go. 

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (m2CN7)

194 Is what Sterling said ontologically different than what Harry Reid or Joe Biden said about Obama?  

Posted by: The Regular Guy at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (qHCyt)

195 Sterling can transfer his part of the ownership to his kids, or let he wife assume complete control. And in the long run-TAX WISE- the NBA might be doing him a favor. Any good tax attorneys here? Forceable sale have any good tax benefits to Sterling?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (t3UFN)

196 Welcome to 2014 America. Our nation's motto should be changed from "E Pluribus Unum to" "Watch What You Say or We'll Break You."

Posted by: Bernie GIlbert at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (YO6qw)

197 So, I've been paying attention to actual, real news not the fake stuff on Tee Vee and MFM. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is all about some recorded phone conversation between a near-senile 80 year old democrat and his prostitute? And no one was killed or burned alive and drug through any streets while screaming at all? And no Secretary of State ever lied about this to the Congress and no American citizen has been selectively arrested for free speech and jailed for a lie? This is something some prostitute recorded, right? And no one was murdered and then ignored, right?

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (Qp0nB)

198 Every team owner is now checking his whore for knives and watching his back. Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 02:39 PM (MMC8r) Who doesn't?

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (x3YFz)

199 yeah I think when it's an 80 year old "dating" a 28 year old, the line between "mistress" and "whore" gets even fuzzier than usual. Posted by: ace at April 29, 2014 02:39 PM (/FnUH Its that in the eye of the beholder and stuff......

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (HVff2)

200 It was only a couple years ago that Rush wasn't even given the opportunity to buy into the Rams because of previous 'racist' remarks.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 29, 2014 02:40 PM (eEBON)



Wasn't it the Dolphins?  And it wasn't due to his remarks.  It was all due to him being a conservative.



Posted by: EC at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (GQ8sn)

201 He should sell the team to Rush Limbaugh for $1.00.

Posted by: eman

 

 

That would be awesome!  I remember vaguely when Rush was trying to buy part ownership in a team and there was OUTRAGE!

Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2014 10:41 AM (G+Wff)

202 Kareem Abdul Jabbar has been talking good sense about this. The obvious indecency of Sterling is matched by those recording and broadcasting a private phone conversation, not to mention by the hysteria of the media. In his Time (yeah, I know) op-ed, Jabbar nicely compares the MSM to children dancing around the head of the Lord of the Flies.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (dfYL9)

203 I'm pretty sure all leagues have a similar clause in their by-laws.  The Commissioner is King. He is chosen by the owners to police the owners.  Don't forget the Sterling is also the longest-tenured owner in the NBA  - i.e. he helped write those rules.

He paid $12 million for that franchise back in 1981 or so.  It'll sell for ~$1.5 billion today.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (3AsfL)

204 Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 02:39 PM (mizYg) Sterling is a Democrat too.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (1Y+hH)

205

at the risk of sounding racist, I denounce myself pre-emptively

 

the people who are complaining the loudest are the ones who will NEVER quit the NBA

 

its how they make their living

 

and the fans most calling for his head?

 

are the ones who buy 300 dollar LeBron shoes they cant afford

 

they will never stop watching

 

and the sponsors that left the Clippers will simply go to other teams

 

they are just going to take all the profit out of the team for him, and hope he sells

 

they would rather kill the team

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (zOTsN)

206 Watching that press conference was like living in Apartheid.

Posted by: Soothsayer, performance artist at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (8UCj3)

207 Since when did saying stupid, even racist things carry a fine and banishment?

Because it got Al Sharpton a job.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (GGCsk)

208 194 One jew bastard down, lots more to go. Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 29, 2014 02:41 PM (m2CN7 I didn't know you were a regular drinking buddy of CharlieBrown's Dildo

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (HVff2)

209 "...he'll be banned fro interfering.

Racist.

Posted by: Phinn at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (i5GO4)

210 Lauren, basically yes.

She was bringing her boy toys to the games.  He told her to knock it off.  So she leaks the private conversation to the media.  And voila they are trying to make him sell the team.

I still think she was sent in as a Mata Hari by Magic Johnson.  All she has done was at Magic's behest so he can buy the team for a cheaper price.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (W6ugU)

211

166 -

 

A little less fuzzy when the "whore" you are "dating" secretly records your  private  conversation, and still takes  up with you long after deciding you  are too racist for her to keep quiet about. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 10:42 AM (TOk1P)

212 It was only a couple years ago that Rush wasn't even given the opportunity to buy into the Rams because of previous 'racist' remarks. I haven't supported pro sports since.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (thLL8)

213 yeah I think when it's an 80 year old "dating" a 28 year old, the line between "mistress" and "whore" gets even fuzzier than usual.


He was dumb.  At that level of wealth, he had no reason to get attached to one particular girl and make her his mistress.  He should have taken cues from Charlie Sheen and whored around.

Posted by: EC at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (GQ8sn)

214 This century's French Revolution has begun.  Off With Their Heads!!!

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (BAS5M)

215 Where is the lifetime ban for Jay-Z for wearing the regalia of and saying he believed in the precepts of a racist group which beliefs white are subhumans? This happened a couple weeks ago. Silence. Why? Democrat. Sterling's a Democrat too. Jay-Z is black. Blacks can be racist if they want. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 02:41 PM (uhAkr) Jay-fail and spike leotards are in the permanent bucket of shitbaggery.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (x3YFz)

216 Just listened to Ghost in the Machine for the first time.  Was wondering why I owned the other 4 Police albums but not this one.  Now I know why.  P-U!

Posted by: Stingk at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (yhJhK)

217 NBA would no doubt ruling that Limbaugh was not fit for ownership. Same thing NFL did. I *think* ownership has to be approved by the other owners. So other owners get a veto if they don't like you.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (ZPrif)

218 30 owners? And only 7 (plus Sterling) have to vote no? And then he's not banned. Only a Republican could fuck up those odds.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (sAXJ5)

219 Kareem Abdul Jabbar has been talking good sense about this. He was a damn good co-pilot.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (uhAkr)

220 134 Sell the Thug Team to the Chinese. Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 29, 2014 02:36 PM (thLL Sell the team to the Hassidic Jews. The Clippers would be a very appropriate nameÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (CMkNk)

221 It was private speech, illegally recorded and released. I would think that in a sane world, that would have a mitigating factor. Then again, fuck all of them. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 02:39 PM (CMkNk) Eh, I'm not exactly a fan of two party consent rules for recording anyway. Anything you say to another person is always open to being repeated in some way, shape or form to others. (Please note, I'm not saying anyone can be surreptitiously recorded. Obviously if no one in the room consents and there's a 3rd party bugging the place, you're in a whole other issue.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (HDwDg)

222 Did someone force him into signing the ownership agreement? Maybe Magic tricked him into it!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 02:40 PM (+lsX1)

 

No Magic  the multi millionare was busy getting low interest minority loans for his multiple businesses.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 29, 2014 10:43 AM (m2CN7)

223 She co-owns the team?  Then she'd be free to really stick it to him by spending more on the payroll in an effort to win the NBA Championship - and he'd be unable to interfere.

LOL, giving her complete control would be entertaining...though I don't think he'd care so long as he can put out more ads for "hostesses."

Posted by: Peach Baskets at April 29, 2014 10:44 AM (lvHfd)

224 Sterling's a Democrat too. Jay-Z is black. Blacks can be racist if they want.  Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 02:41 PM (uhAkr)

They can only be three-fifths racist.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 29, 2014 10:44 AM (MPIX5)

225 219 30 owners? And only 7 (plus Sterling) have to vote no? And then he's not banned. Only a Republican could fuck up those odds. Posted by: akula51 at April 29, 2014 02:43 PM (sAXJ5) No way it's a secret ballot. Not with Sharpton and his droogs at the door.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:44 AM (CMkNk)

226 This century's French Revolution has begun. Off With Their Heads!!! Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2014 02:43 PM (BAS5M) au contraire, mon frere. Now we just de-nut them and make them wash our windows while we point and laugh. Way more fun.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:44 AM (x3YFz)

227 ridiculous

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 29, 2014 10:45 AM (u8GsB)

228 If you're going to operate a high profile organization, you cannot break rule #1 which is "don't generate bad press."


Agreed.   But when exactly did   having a private conversation    count as "generating bad press?"      He's not the one who leaked it to the media.  That was his slutwhoregirlfriendfuckbuddy whatever her name is.  SHE should be the one getting fined   and banned, not him.   Sterling may be an asshole, but   if we're going to fine and ban people for being assholes   in private    then the    HQ  is going to go really quiet pretty damn quick.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 10:45 AM (4df7R)

229 191 If he had made the speech publicly the league had a right to react.He was surreptitiously taped during a private conversation. Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2014 02:40 PM (zqvg6) This is where I have a serious problem. It may also encourage illegal tapping of private conversations. Paparazzi type behavior. Can Sterling privately be opposed to dating blacks while publicly supporting their livelihoods and receiving a NAACP award for his past behavior? I think he can. But being taped PRIVATELY, well, all bets are off.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 10:45 AM (A98Xu)

230  Wait......wait.  I'm getting a vision.  I see a courtroom.......and lawyers......and an old man with a stern look on his face.

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2014 10:45 AM (txtYn)

231 I like when things like this go too far, 'cuz it means the swing back will be that much further.  And who the fuck watches the NBA any more?

Posted by: Reversion to the Mean at April 29, 2014 10:45 AM (yhJhK)

232

185 -

 

In MY America, that's more than enough. 

Posted by: Hollowhead at April 29, 2014 10:45 AM (TOk1P)

233 Wow, given the severity of the charges you'd think the thought police would have Al Sharpton locked up for life.


Posted by: dananjcon at April 29, 2014 10:45 AM (NpXoL)

234

Kareem Abdul Jabbar has been talking good sense about this.

Really.  That's not what I got out of the article.   I got ' what took you guys so long'  and  ' This is no surprise.  America is racist' . 

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 29, 2014 10:45 AM (m2CN7)

235 Nobody gives a shit about the LA Clippers anyway. I bet less than 10% of the people in this country knew they existed Any NBA team in the Western Conference may as well be playing on the moon. If it weren't for all the Kia commercials, nobody'd know who Blake Griffin is. I've been a fan of my Magic mostly because it's the only major sports franchise in town (literally, guys). However, they seem content to be just a farm team, despite the fact that there's already a D-League. They blew the chance to get Zen Master Phil Jackson here while Dwight Howard was here, fucking all of us over royally in the process. BTW, I attended the very first Magic game played. I'm about to tell them to go fuck themselves. If they have so little respect for me and the other fans here, they sure don't need me anymore. Golf, now that's sport that doesn't have as many scandals. And I'd have to denounce myself if I happened to mention who it was.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (0HooB)

236 Welcome to the new fascism.

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (eytER)

237 ..."Having said that, I have no idea how they intend to enforce a rule that he can't make business decisions with his business." Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 29, 2014 02:40 PM (HDwDg) They can "dissolve" the team, meaning No Sale.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (lq3Ak)

238 He won't be permitted to make decisions for his own business.

That does seem to be the zeitgeist these days.

Posted by: HR at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (ZKzrr)

239 227 Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:44 PM (x3YFz) After the Anschluss, those Jews that weren't beaten or hauled off to Dachau were forced to scrub the streets of Vienna and Linz with toothbrushes. And then 4 years laterÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (CMkNk)

240 Now the NBA players are having a Church revival presser

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (t3UFN)

241 How many NBA, NFL, MLB, or NHL owners have ever used the word "fag"?

http://tinyurl.com/kth8yxn

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (L02KD)

242 NBA: "Sterling may not attend any NBA games or practices, be present at any Clippers office or facility, or participate in any business"



He can't attend a game???

Posted by: EC at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (GQ8sn)

243 237 Welcome to the new fascism. Posted by: @JohnTant at April 29, 2014 02:46 PM (enter) Same as the old fascism.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (CMkNk)

244 his girlfriend should be cited, fined, banned from the nba for elder abuse

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 29, 2014 10:46 AM (u8GsB)

245 I'll be perfectly frank here: I never even knew there was such a team called the "Clippers" until this story broke. Someone said, "The owner of the LA Clippers said something racist!" And I replied, "The 'Clippers'?" And they said, "The LA basketball team." And I replied, "Don't you mean the LA Lakers? Isn't it the Lakers?" And they said, "No, you idiot, there's also the Clippers." And I replied, "Well if the LA team is the Clippers, how come I've never heard of them?" And they said, "Because you are an idiot." And I replied, "Maybe it's because I don't follow sports." And they said, "That too, but also idiot."

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 10:47 AM (mizYg)

246 Kareem Abdul Jabbar has been talking good sense about this. Really. That's not what I got out of the article. I got ' what took you guys so long' and ' This is no surprise. America is racist' . He also said that the man was speaking in private, that his girlfriend was leading him on to say racist things, and that we are having a feeding frenzy on what none of us should know about.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 10:47 AM (uhAkr)

247 I'm sure no other NBA owner privately says anything racist or homophobic or misogynistic.I bet they are all sweating over this,or maybe installing jamming equipment.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2014 10:47 AM (zqvg6)

248 231 Wait......wait. I'm getting a vision. I see a courtroom.......and lawyers......and an old man with a stern look on his face. Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2014 02:45 PM (txtYn) Stern? I thought he retired.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:47 AM (CMkNk)

249 I got banned on twitchy for using the word faggot.


Posted by: jukin at April 29, 2014 10:47 AM (WGm5T)

250 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 29, 2014 02:45 PM (4df7R) Yes. Well there's a reason I don't ever want to rise much above upper middle class. The social pressure not to be myself starts to become unbearable.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 10:48 AM (HDwDg)

251 248 I'm sure no other NBA owner privately says anything racist or homophobic or misogynistic.I bet they are all sweating over this,or maybe installing jamming equipment. Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2014 02:47 PM (zqvg6) put a mic in every locker room

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 29, 2014 10:48 AM (u8GsB)

252 and the fans most calling for his head?

are the ones who buy 300 dollar LeBron shoes they cant afford




"Buy?"



-Rioting   crowds outside    shoe stores

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 10:48 AM (4df7R)

253 And I promise to have a better girlfriend, too. She won't be able to record anything because I'll make sure she's not wearing clothes whenever we're together.

Yeah, but watch out for those new snootch cams. They'll get you every time.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 29, 2014 10:48 AM (I8YZX)

254 Honestly, my give-a-fuck-ometer just isn't triggered by this one. There's really nobody to like in this.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 10:48 AM (mx5oN)

255 It was private speech, illegally recorded and released. I would think that in a sane world, that would have a mitigating factor. Then again, fuck all of them. In addition to being his fuck toy, she was his personal "archivist". Why he needed one I don't know, but I assume that entails recording his correspondence with his consent. If he didn't know his archivist was recording him, he should have. Nobody really comes out of this looking good, especially considering his history of race-related troubles in the past that were previously ignored- including by the NAACP.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 10:48 AM (SY2Kh)

256

he has been fucking this slag for four years, and calling her self his "archivist"

 

 

sure

 

finding places for his crusty old penis to go

 

Magic didnt send her to him

 

She sought out Magic when the old fart was kicking her to the curb and the wife sued her

 

no coincidence. 

 

hopefully she can use the money to buy herself a more proportional nose so she will stop looking like a Bratz doll

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:48 AM (zOTsN)

257 Synchronicity is full of Sting's douchebaggery too. Maybe half the album is okay. Every Breath You Take is a classic. Otherwise a wankfest. Regatta and Outlandos are the albums you need, toss the others

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 10:48 AM (RTQgm)

258 The NAACP said today they are still willing to work with Los Angeles Clippers’ owner Donald Sterling despite yanking an offer of a lifetime achievement award over an audio tape containing racist comments that Sterling allegedly made. At a news conference today, NAACP Los Angeles president Leon Jenkins said that an audio recording that surfaced this weekend on TMZ, which purportedly had Sterling’s voice recorded making racist comments, was “devastating.” But the organization would be open to talking to Sterling, with whom they’ve worked for nearly 20 years. “God teaches us to forgive, and the way I look at it, after a sustained period of proof to the African American community that those words don’t reflect his heart, I think there’s room for forgiveness. I wouldn’t be a Christian if I said there wasn’t,” Jenkins said. “We are negotiating with him about giving more moneys to African American students at UCLA, and so we are in preliminary discussions,” Jenkins said. The NCAA pimping with the best of them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:48 AM (t3UFN)

259 "the line between "mistress" and "whore" gets even fuzzier than usual."

Posted by: ace

Sounds like a lack of personal grooming.

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 10:49 AM (MNq6o)

260 One jew bastard  hymie down, lots more to go.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson Sr. at April 29, 2014 10:49 AM (WGm5T)

261 "If you're going to operate a high profile organization, you cannot break rule #1 which is "don't generate bad press." " I get that, but again, he was having a conversation with his girlfriend. He didn't go on TV and say that he didn't want to see any black people at games or something. It may not be racial, but I doubt anyone on Earth can claim they've never made an un-pc remark to someone while angry.

Posted by: Lauren at April 29, 2014 10:49 AM (hFL/3)

262 253 and the fans most calling for his head? are the ones who buy 300 dollar LeBron shoes they cant afford "Buy?" -Rioting crowds outside shoe stores Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 29, 2014 02:48 PM (4df7R) Eh, you just gun down somebody who has them and steal their shoes. Easy peasy.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 10:49 AM (mx5oN)

263 They can "dissolve" the team, meaning No Sale. Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 02:46 PM (lq3Ak) Right, per the 75% rule they can do that. However they haven't gone that route yet (it's next on the process). I'm curious how they intend to enforce what they just announced (assuming any business decisions get made prior to the owner's vote.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 10:49 AM (HDwDg)

264

This is the only way the NBA could have handled this.  Hockey team?  Maybe different, but 80% of the talent in the NBA is black and this guy made it clear he hates black men.  I guess he's ok with black chicks.

It's business.

Posted by: steve at April 29, 2014 10:49 AM (cSDPa)

265 "They are levying a 2.5 Million dollar fine.... for speech..."


Yes, but speech that damages the other owners financially.  Just one example:  the Clippers local TV contract is up right now.  The precedent set on that contract effects the negotiations of the other markets, etc.  Advertisers are fleeing.

This is a very nuanced issue.  Bottom line to me is that they all agreed to their league constitution.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 10:49 AM (3AsfL)

266 261 "the line between "mistress" and "whore" gets even fuzzier than usual." Posted by: ace Sounds like a lack of personal grooming. Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 02:49 PM (MNq6o) The whore is the more honest of the two.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 10:50 AM (mx5oN)

267 I see that you Americans are all wrapped up in this while I plan for Ukraine takeover You make it so easy for me. Where is challenge?

Posted by: Vlad Putin at April 29, 2014 10:50 AM (aTXUx)

268 Wow. Let the surreptitious recordings begin. This leads to a very bad place...... very bad.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 29, 2014 10:50 AM (32Ze2)

269 If she's smart, she recorded her "conversations" with Magic.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 29, 2014 10:50 AM (P1WNR)

270 Stopped watching the NBA long ago once I realized it was fixed. If I did watch, this would be a "trigger" that would cause me to stop.

Posted by: resist we much at April 29, 2014 10:50 AM (u0wJh)

271 and... they play in the united states and people from various states watch them, so interstate commerce, and hurtful words can go anywhere there is a tv, so, the un should monitor them, and punish hurtful words and other forms of microaggression, and, and  

Posted by: pfligdorp at April 29, 2014 10:50 AM (MNdHi)

272 2.5 million Dammit, I really wanted that new ivory backscratcher.

Posted by: Donald Sterling at April 29, 2014 10:50 AM (QupBk)

273 put a mic in every locker room Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl

This.  You'd hear a lot worse.

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (MNq6o)

274 Dr. Spank.

If she was really smart she would not tell Magic what all she recorded.  Or there might be another SoCal fatal car-jacking...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (W6ugU)

275 And let me say this...Magic Johnson needs to keep his mouth shut.  He has several businesses in the Los Angeles area and they are all managed like shit.  His 24 Hour Fitness centers are more like nightclubs than gyms and the equipment is either broken or missing.  Yes, free weights are stolen on a regular basis.  His Starbucks franchise is ghetto-fab and shitty too.  He may be a minority owner with the Dodgers, but that is a good thing...he can't fuck things up too much.  A business man he is not.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (GRTce)

276 Any owners contribute to Prop 8? Or vote Republican?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (ZPrif)

277 Fines are how sports leagues regularly punish infractions, and they're well within their rights to do so. Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 02:38 PM (SY2Kh) Sorry.... people have Rights.... leagues? Don't see them mentioned in the Constitution. He was in a private conversation, not having anything to do with the League... yet they can fine him for that private conversation? Do you sign away YOUR Rights when you sign an NBA contract?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (84gbM)

278 Conspiracy of the day: Obama asked Silver to announce the ban today to take away any oxygen from the Benghazi reveal.

Posted by: Boone at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (aDkn+)

279 If I was his age I'd either sue the crap out of the NBA, you have murderers & rapists out there on the court or just fire everyone on the team and disband. What the hell, already stinking rich and how much time do you have left to live? Sail off into the sunset while flipping them all the bird.

Posted by: gdonovan at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (2Ee1I)

280 "In addition to being his fuck toy, she was his personal "archivist". Why he needed one I don't know, but I assume that entails recording his correspondence with his consent. If he didn't know his archivist was recording him, he should have." Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 02:48 PM (SY2Kh) This was, "(reportedly)" due to his continued short-term memory loss. I just don't see why he'd let his whore be the "archivist".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (lq3Ak)

281 Some wit on twitter said, "I'm only racist when I drive." I would add, "I'm only racist and sexist" when I drive."

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (A98Xu)

282 He can buy indulgences from the NAACP but the NBA will make more money without him.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (+lsX1)

283 I smell a civil suit against the NBA

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 29, 2014 10:51 AM (ZkzmI)

284 280 Conspiracy of the day: Obama asked Silver to announce the ban today to take away any oxygen from the Benghazi reveal. Posted by: Boone at April 29, 2014 02:51 PM (aDkn+) Obama doesn't have to ask them to do anything. They do this on their own.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:52 AM (CMkNk)

285 After the Anschluss, those Jews that weren't beaten or hauled off to Dachau were forced to scrub the streets of Vienna and Linz with toothbrushes. And then 4 years laterÂ… Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 02:46 PM (CMkNk) Well, yes. But the difference is they were rounded up based on not their actions or character, but on their ancestry and individual beliefs. In this case, however, it's not hard to find a liberal who doesn't act in contradiction to the founding principles. We discriminate on actions. F it, put them on a boat to nowhere for all I care. I don't want to kill them, just rid our nation of their cancer.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:52 AM (x3YFz)

286 275 put a mic in every locker room Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl This. You'd hear a lot worse. Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 02:51 PM (MNq6o) Quite. You'd hear more use of "n*gger" than you would at a Klan meeting

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 10:52 AM (mx5oN)

287 So, if you can covertly tape people saying stupid things and demand their job/livelihood, will the libs start calling for the head of John F'n Kerry?

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 10:52 AM (MMC8r)

288 Do you sign away YOUR Rights when you sign an NBA contract? Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2014 02:51 PM (84gbM) No your still allowed to do drugs, carry illegal firearms, beat your wife, drive while drunk, shoot people, and other assorted crimes just don't say anything naughty

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 10:52 AM (t3UFN)

289 So, how did the Magic Johnson takeover speculation get inserted into this?  Is there a source, or are we corgiing something Rush made up?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 29, 2014 10:52 AM (JtwS4)

290 Mark Jackson, coach of the GS Warriors who are playing the LAC tonight, is urging fans to boycott the game. Gotta give him credit for gamesmanship. No home court advantage for the Clip show! I doubt any ticket holders will actually boycott, playoff tickets aren't cheap and the Clippers are actually pretty good for once.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 10:52 AM (ZshNr)

291 Agreed. But when exactly did having a private conversation count as "generating bad press?" He's not the one who leaked it to the media. Does it really matter? His actions- though never intended to be public- did in fact generate quite a lot of bad press. Something he could've avoided by not saying racist shit over the phone to his "personal archivist".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 10:52 AM (SY2Kh)

292

NBA: "Sterling may not attend any NBA games or practices, be present at
any Clippers office or facility, or participate in any business"

 



He can't attend a game???

 

 

Nope.  Not even  a Rec League  Midnight Basketball game.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2014 10:53 AM (BAS5M)

293 Well there's a reason I don't ever want to rise much above upper middle class. The social pressure not to be myself starts to become unbearable.

The socio-economic boundaries are way lower.  Poor black kids who love reading get bashed for "acting white" and let's not even talk about what happens to white trash girls who are better at math than mascara.

Posted by: HR at April 29, 2014 10:53 AM (ZKzrr)

294 Behold Democracy in action.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 29, 2014 10:53 AM (h53OH)

295 Posted by: Lauren at April 29, 2014 02:49 PM (hFL/3) I recognize the tension. It's complex. I'm not saying Sterling deserved this, I'm saying I can see the NBA operating out of self-preservation instinct.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 10:53 AM (HDwDg)

296 Out here in the woods, we just tear the limbs off of any critter that offends the sensibilities of the PC police.

Posted by: Sasquatch at April 29, 2014 10:53 AM (lvHfd)

297 All the NBA has to do is convince 3/4 of the billionaire owners to vote for kicking out someone because of their private thoughts that were never spoken in public. Billionaires love to be subject to random actions based on secretly recorded private conversations.

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2014 10:53 AM (u2a4R)

298 Black sports sociologist (and left-wing radical) Harry Edwards says the entire concept of professional sports is just minstrelsy updated to make it socially acceptable, a racist form of objectification of blacks and a way for whites to control them for white's own amusement. So I say let's just dissolve the whole NBA.

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (mizYg)

299 We're gonna need more lawyers.

Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (OS9Kh)

300 287 F it, put them on a boat to nowhere for all I care. I don't want to kill them, just rid our nation of their cancer. Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:52 PM (x3YFz) By whatever means are required, depending upon the circumstances.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (CMkNk)

301 118 From a business perspective, the NBA and the other owners were backed into a corner by this asshole. Like it or not, his actions directly impact the bottom line of every other team, which is why they have an ownership constitution with these provisions. Hopefully he'll learn a lesson from this and the next time he gets mad at his mistress he'll just knock her around a little instead of talking about the coloreds. Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 02:34 PM (+lsX1) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nonsense. After all the bloviating by the likes of Sharpton and whoever else, I find it exceptionally unlikely that the NBA bottom line will be perceptibly affected by this. Certainly now that he's been fined / suspended, it won't, but even if they had stood their ground and not been cowards to the mob, it wouldn't. Hell, with all the moronic "warmups on backwards" solidarity bullshit, they probably have MORE people watching. And just because one sponsor quits doesn't mean a new one isn't right around the corner to take their place.

Posted by: deadrody at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (aT8Zk)

302 Remember when Jeremy Lin first lit up the scene in New York, and players were annoyed because he was Asian?    Gosh, that was great, all those bannings and maximum fines.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (4df7R)

303 And they said, "No, you idiot, there's also the Clippers." And I replied, "Well if the LA team is the Clippers, how come I've never heard of them?" And they said, "Because you are an idiot." Who is this charming person, zombie? I'd like to send them a Hallmark card for being such a sweetheart.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (WhJf8)

304 Wow. Let the surreptitious recordings begin. This leads to a very bad place...... very bad. I hope soon we just start shouting down the snitches and the outrage hounds. I'm so tired of it. Why does it matter who people hate? If a million people think I'm going to hell, it doesn't affect me so long as they don't put me there. But people out monitoring everybody's speech and randomly tearing people's lives apart? That's a big problem.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (uhAkr)

305 Conspiracy of the day: Obama asked Silver to announce the ban today to take away any oxygen from the Benghazi reveal. Posted by: Boone

With the NBA thugs running Obamacare ads...  I can see that.  Easy.

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (MNq6o)

306 "No your still allowed to do drugs, carry illegal firearms, beat your wife, drive while drunk, shoot people, and other assorted crimes just don't say anything naughty"

Only if you are black.

Posted by: Jesse Jackson Sr. at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (WGm5T)

307 301 Black sports sociologist (and left-wing radical) Harry Edwards says the entire concept of professional sports is just minstrelsy updated to make it socially acceptable, a racist form of objectification of blacks and a way for whites to control them for white's own amusement. So I say let's just dissolve the whole NBA. Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 02:54 PM (mizYg) Frankly, I wouldn't miss it at all.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (mx5oN)

308 This was a complete and total setup by this bitch, listen to the complete tapes. She's constantly goading him and pushing him. And isn't it interesting that a group led by magic Johnson wants to buy the clippers and this whore is somehow affiliated with him. Complete setup. And for all of these fucks who are outraged by his private comments, let's hear a month of your private conversations I'm damn sure you aren't clean yourselves.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (O8Nor)

309 His actions- though never intended to be public- did in fact generate quite a lot of bad press. Something he could've avoided by not saying racist shit over the phone to his "personal archivist".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 02:52 PM (SY2Kh)

 

What racist  shit  did he say? 

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (m2CN7)

310 275 put a mic in every locker room Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl This. You'd hear a lot worse. Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 02:51 PM (MNq6o) Quite. You'd hear more use of "n*gger" than you would at a Klan meeting Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 02:52 PM (mx5oN) Hah... reminds me: we used to monitor (via sound, not video) the basic training dorms when we pulled CQ. The females were NASTY. The guys just farted and snored. The women? The nasty shit they'd discuss? Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:54 AM (x3YFz)

311 297 Behold Democracy in action. Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 29, 2014 02:53 PM (h53OH) Democracy, yes. Rule of a just and stable law, people acting in good faith? Not so much.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (CMkNk)

312
Viagra is a helluva drug.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (hJauc)

313 If I were Sterling I would declare war and fire the team, destroy the franchise completely and screw the NBA as much as he can.

Posted by: Sam at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (Lh8u2)

314 Donald Sterling is the owner I'd have if I had an owner.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (lvHfd)

315 But the organization would be open to talking to Sterling, with whom theyÂ’ve worked for nearly 20 years. Heh. I read that as, "...the organization would be open to stalking Sterling..." And the needle on my Give-a-Shitometer still won't budge. Must be broken, cause it hasn't moved in a long time.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (0HooB)

316 Yes, I'm yelling: WHEN JAMES O'KEEFE DOES THIS, THE LEFT WANTS HIM ARRESTED AND THE RECORDING IGNORED.

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (MMC8r)

317 It's a good thing Sterling didn't drown a woman. That can lead to REAL consequences. Heh heh.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (8ZskC)

318

the photo that made the old fart made was one she poste to her instagram cuddling up to Magic.  Magic was interested in the team before,  immediately after this all was reveled by her, Magic offered to be the "white knight" and buy the team to save it

 

there are no coincidences

 

and, I denounce myself for saying white knight

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (zOTsN)

319 Posted by: HR at April 29, 2014 02:53 PM (ZKzrr Most likely true. However in my own myopic point of view, I'm concerned with the limits of my social boundaries. Granted: Conservative academic, so I'm already operating at the boundaries I suppose.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (HDwDg)

320 >>And isn't it interesting that a group led by magic Johnson wants to buy the clippers and this whore is somehow affiliated with him. Think she dated him for 4 years.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2014 10:55 AM (8zTpe)

321 PURGE!

Stalin lined them up and shot them. We're a little more civilized.

Posted by: PJ at April 29, 2014 10:56 AM (ZWaLo)

322 Magic has been publicly looking for an ownership opportunity for years. He has an investment group already assembled. He is the obvious front-runner as new owner. It may all just be miraculous serendipity, or it may be that one of his whores did him a solid by getting the old coot on tape.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 10:56 AM (ZshNr)

323 Boy, talk about swift "justice."  Kinda like an Egyptian court.

Posted by: eureka! at April 29, 2014 10:56 AM (q7DBM)

324 And for all of these fucks who are outraged by his private comments, let's hear a month of your private conversations I'm damn sure you aren't clean yourselves. It's like drunk driving: we're all going to pretend we've never driven home when we maybe shouldn't have.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 10:56 AM (uhAkr)

325 my spelling today is like a racist 80 year old man with memory problems and a hooker for an archivist

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:56 AM (zOTsN)

326 Do you sign away YOUR Rights when you sign an NBA contract?

A lot of contracts have a morals clause for exactly this reason. Private actions reflect on the organization when you're a high profile member of that organization. Unless you have been tricked or hypnotized by Magic Johnson, signing a contract is voluntary.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 10:56 AM (+lsX1)

327 58Is the $2.5 million a fine or a tax?


Duh! It's a tax.

Posted by: Dishonorable John Roberts at April 29, 2014 10:56 AM (znT2j)

328 Black sports sociologist (and left-wing radical) Harry Edwards says the entire concept of professional sports is just minstrelsy updated to make it socially acceptable, a racist form of objectification of blacks and a way for whites to control them for white's own amusement.

Might be news to Jackie Robinson.

Posted by: HR at April 29, 2014 10:57 AM (ZKzrr)

329 Who is this charming person, zombie? I'd like to send them a Hallmark card for being such a sweetheart. Posted by: bonhomme Friend of a friend -ish. It was semi-jocular, and alcohol was involved, so a pass was granted.

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 10:57 AM (mizYg)

330 "...he could've avoided by not saying racist shit over the phone to his "personal archivist"." Ahhh, so now in America we must be careful about our speech in private conversations. * (*that of course is not threatening or terrorist related) This is incredible.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 10:57 AM (A98Xu)

331 Don't care. I used to have an accountant that would hand me tickets to 76er games, thinking I would be pleased. I handed them right back. I'd rather watch paint dry. Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 29, 2014 02:53 PM (oGrEy) Assuming this occurred AFTER DR J. retired.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:57 AM (x3YFz)

332 I have no problem with this. He's in a league that's 90% black and people are surprised by this reaction. His punishment will be selling the team for a billion dollar profit.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 29, 2014 10:57 AM (YhayY)

333 Black sports sociologist (and left-wing radical) Harry Edwards says the
entire concept of professional sports is just minstrelsy updated to make
it socially acceptable, a racist form of objectification of blacks and a
way for whites to control them for white's own amusement.

Might be news to Jackie Robinson.

Posted by: HR at April 29, 2014 02:57 PM (ZKzrr)



But not Hank Aaron.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (4df7R)

334 If only rappers and former players are allowed to own teams, how long before there's blood running in the streets and neighborhood riots? 

I mean beyond the annual championship finals, obviously.

Posted by: Fritz at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (UzPAd)

335 Black sports sociologist (and left-wing radical) Harry Edwards says the entire concept of professional sports is just minstrelsy updated to make it socially acceptable, a racist form of objectification of blacks and a way for whites to control them for white's own amusement. Then they can give back the money.

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (MMC8r)

336 Which one of these multi-millionaires am I supposed to feel sorry for, again?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (0HooB)

337 319 Yes, I'm yelling: WHEN JAMES O'KEEFE DOES THIS, THE LEFT WANTS HIM ARRESTED AND THE RECORDING IGNORED. Posted by: --- BINGO!

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (mizYg)

338 Ahhh, so now in America we must be careful about our speech in private conversations. * (*that of course is not threatening or terrorist related) This is incredible. Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 02:57 PM (A98Xu) You now have to be careful how you talk to your ho's. Literally.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (x3YFz)

339 It appears that the girlfriend framed him. If she taped a private conversation without his knowledge, I believe it depends on which state it happened in. The man is 80 or 81, am I the only one to think he might be suffering from dementia or Alzheimer's? Rush said his wife did a 180 today, but I was half asleep & did not hear all of it. I'll have to read it in a bit.

Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (gjOCp)

340 I would love to hear the private conversations that come from Obama when he is with his close cohorts. 

Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (G+Wff)

341 The logic of diversity is that different ethnic/racial groups have different characteristics and abilities that are beneficial to a society - and you are an evil, hateful person unworthy of life if you so much as hint that a group is not in every conceivable way identical to and interchangeable with every other group.

Posted by: whoever at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (pjMym)

342 Posted by: deadrody at April 29, 2014 02:54 PM (aT8Zk) Some places have pulled sponsorship. Now how long that would last? Unclear.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (HDwDg)

343 her term as his number one whore was about to expire, and so she made sure her end was covered.  She is also writing a book.  She belongs in the gold diggers hall of fame.  She is the Rosa Parks of hooking

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 10:58 AM (zOTsN)

344 The bottom line is he jeopardized the bottom line of others

Posted by: Rightrt at April 29, 2014 10:59 AM (Wp00u)

345

301 -

 

Silly you.  We don't  want  to destroy the golden geese.  We just think you have no business controlling the sale of eggs. 

 

We can do it better! 

Posted by: Left Wing Radicals Everywhere at April 29, 2014 10:59 AM (TOk1P)

346 I'm still at a loss as to why this was a major story. Let 4 Americans get killed and lie about. Not a story. Tell a whore not to invite blacks to a basketball game and it's the end of world. This country's head is so far up its ass it can lick its intestines.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2014 10:59 AM (1Jaio)

347 Spike Lee had a front row seat for the public lynching, I mean banning. Weasel Zippers ‏@weaselzippers NBA Gives White-Hating Racist Front Row Seat For Donald Sterling Ban AnnouncementÂ… http://shar.es/S0NZS

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 10:59 AM (ZPrif)

348 I hope Adam Silver enjoyed his time as NBA commissioner. Backing the owners into a corner and making them vote against their interests is a sure way of getting canned.

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2014 10:59 AM (u2a4R)

349 Since the LA mayor also went public and demanded pitchforks and torches, I'd love to see the city lose the taxes they collect. And what about the jobs? Go ahead...dissolve away!

Posted by: Commissar Pug at April 29, 2014 10:59 AM (8c12T)

350 She's constantly goading him and pushing him.



Reminds me of those telemarketers pressuring old people to buy shit over the phone.

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 10:59 AM (MNq6o)

351 So the Clippers still have to work on Sterling's Plantation tonight?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 29, 2014 10:59 AM (32Ze2)

352
Using ezra klien type thinking:

Rich Democrats are all racists.

Abuse of women by the NBA players and personnel is actively encouraged.

You didn't build that.

Only 1 gay player allowed per year in the NBA.

Hillary hates blacks because she or her husband took donations from him (probably).

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2014 10:59 AM (hJauc)

353 "I'm curious how they intend to enforce what they just announced (assuming any business decisions get made prior to the owner's vote.)"

Silver never gives that presser without the other owner's consent.  If he didn't have the votes it wouldn't have been proposed. 

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 11:00 AM (3AsfL)

354 he'll be banned fro interfering Banned fro? Tee hee.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 29, 2014 11:00 AM (7ObY1)

355 "Bloody suit?  What bloody suit?"


- Ray Lewis,  angelic saint of the Baltimore Ravens   and  ESPN 'caster

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 11:00 AM (4df7R)

356 If only rappers and former players are allowed to own teams, how long before there's blood running in the streets and neighborhood riots? Posted by: Fritz at April 29, 2014 02:58 PM (UzPAd) /looks at Fritz /points at Detroit on map You haven't been paying attention. Wanna get shot? Be white in Atlanta.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 11:00 AM (x3YFz)

357 I have a hunch if you bugged the locker rooms of the NBA you'd hear a lot of homophobic comments They'd choose some marginal player to punish and that would be the end of it, other than some "anti-bullying" PSA's paid for by the league

Posted by: kbdabear at April 29, 2014 11:00 AM (aTXUx)

358 43 The NBA is a private organization, of which Sterling is a member. How they choose to enforce their own rules is their business. They don't need evidence of a criminal act, nor should they so long as they adhere to the terms of whatever contract the parties entered into. Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (SY2Kh) ___________ So what if the NBA - a private organization - decided it would not allow blacks to own a team. Hey, it's none of your business right?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 29, 2014 11:00 AM (0LHZx)

359 Sterling's a billionaire with a "b".

I would make the league spend so much on legal fees they would be begging for a settlement.

Then I would sell the team to a Saudi sheik. That would turn the conversation to misogyny.

Everybody wins!

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (GGCsk)

360 Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 02:56 PM (ZshNr) He was part owner of the Lakers for a while. If he wanted in, why couldn't he get it? It is interesting that someone from "Harlem Public Radio" (Bronx maybe? Somewhere in NY) asked specifically about him during the presser.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (HDwDg)

361 I would love to hear the private conversations that come from Obama when he is with his close cohorts.

Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2014 02:58 PM (G+Wff)




How about someone's grandmother being a "typical white person"?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (1Jaio)

362 We could all chip in and hire some whore to blow Ace for 3 years, entice him to say something naughty on tape, release it, and then take over the blog!!!!

Posted by: Commissar Pug at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (8c12T)

363 155 They are levying a 2.5 Million dollar fine.... for speech... That is just plain UnAmerican.... and hiding behind 'its a private company' does not make it right. He voluntarily entered a contract with the NBA, and his speech was directly related to his role in that organization and reflected badly upon it. Fines are how sports leagues regularly punish infractions, and they're well within their rights to do so. Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 02:38 PM (SY2Kh) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Why the hell are so many people confused about this ? Just because something is within the legal rights of the NBA does not mean its the "right" thing to do, let alone in keeping with the spirit of the freedom and liberty of the founding of this country ? Fining the shit out of someone and suspending them for life over an illegally taped conversation with tepid racial content is certainly not in keeping with the idea that people should be free to live their lives as they see fit. Nobody is saying this is a 1st ammendment thing, nobody is claiming this is "censorship", but as Ace described the other day (i think) once people start giving up on people's freedom to think and say what they want in private, how long does it take until we've involved the government in that decision-making process ?!

Posted by: deadrody at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (aT8Zk)

364 The NBA, proud to work with proud racist Spike Lee. Cause racism against White People is OK. http://tinyurl.com/klx46fx Lee now works for SiriusXM NBA Radio – an outlet run by the NBA. Lee’s racial history is pockmarked with ugly racial comments. In February, Lee complained about the gentrification of Harlem in racial terms, telling an audience questioner who praised changes to the neighborhood, “Let me just kill you right now.” He continued, “Have you seen Fort Greene Park in the morning? It’s like the mother*****’ Westminster Dog Show….When you see white mothers pushing their babies in strollers, three o’clock in the morning on 125th Street, that must tell you something.” After the Trayvon Martin shooting, Lee posted the address of George Zimmerman’s parents on Twitter. After visiting South Africa in the early 1990s, he stated, “I seriously wanted to pick up a gun and shoot whites. The only way to resolve matters is by bloodshed.” And he says this of interracial couples: “I give interracial couples a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they see me on the street.” Lee has starred in NBA commercials, now stars on their radio station on SiriusXM, and is apparently the perfect person for a front-row seat about punishing racism in the NBA.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (ZPrif)

365 Sell it to the city of Bugfuck, Montana. Should go over great there.

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (MMC8r)

366 This was, "(reportedly)" due to his continued short-term memory loss. I just don't see why he'd let his whore be the "archivist".

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 02:51 PM (lq3Ak)

 

 

-------------------------------------------

 

 

I have a feeling that Sterling doesn't have any really trustworthy friends  or associates.  Players?   Nope.  He probably knew  them  better than they realized. 

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (txtYn)

367

347 -

 

If that's all it takes to yank the ownership away from somebody, wouldn't the Cubs have  already  been ripped away from  the   inept cabal of nincompoops  running that team? 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (TOk1P)

368 319 Yes, I'm yelling:

WHEN JAMES O'KEEFE DOES THIS, THE LEFT WANTS HIM ARRESTED AND THE RECORDING IGNORED.




Quoting because it can't be said enough.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (4df7R)

369 29 If Obama had a son, just who the fuck would he look like? Easy-peasey. Urkel. Steve Urkel.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 29, 2014 11:01 AM (7ObY1)

370 If I were Stern I'd scatter his roster to the winds in  bargain basement trades and leave the league with a collection of dregs for a franchise. 

That's basically how he ran the Clippers for years anyway so he should know how to do it.

Posted by: Dead Cops and Murdered Women at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (XO6WW)

371 California is a 2 party consent state when it comes to recording someone's conversations, however if she's his "archivist" he may have given consent.

Who said she's his archivist? Her?

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (P1WNR)

372 '343 I would love to hear the private conversations that come from Obama when he is with his close cohorts." Bingo.

Posted by: Lauren at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (hFL/3)

373 The NBA is a private organization, of which Sterling is a member. I'm pretty sure the NBA has waivers for its monopoly status from the Feds like the NFL and MLB.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (uhAkr)

374

@311 And isn't it interesting that a group led by magic Johnson wants to buy the clippers and this whore is somehow affiliated with him.

----------------------

 

If Sterling decides to sell the team, I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to ignore any bids that Johnson is a part of.

 

Posted by: junior at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (UWFpX)

375 The bottom line is he jeopardized the bottom line of others

Posted by: Rightrt

 

whose

 

be specific

 

whose

 

Miami's?

 

LeBron?

 

Kobi?

 

please show proof in your answer

 

he hurt the Clippers, who are about to be hurt even worse by the league than anything he is alleged to have done

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (zOTsN)

376 This is the most publicity the NBA has gotten since Earl the Pearl retired.

They are on the down slope anyway. Th guys a douche. But so are about 95% of the people in the NBA for one reason or another.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (GGCsk)

377 Bugfuck, MT is a beautiful place. Too bad about that name, though. I kissed a girl on the butte there once.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (7ObY1)

378 319 Yes, I'm yelling: WHEN JAMES O'KEEFE DOES THIS, THE LEFT WANTS HIM ARRESTED AND THE RECORDING IGNORED. Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 02:55 PM (MMC8r) Agree, it can't be stated enough.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (A98Xu)

379 I don't know, maybe he wanted real ownership, not just a small, almost symbolic, ownership role. Most players would be thrilled with that, but Magic seems to have always been thinking bigger.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 11:02 AM (ZshNr)

380 this is truly bushs fault

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (u8GsB)

381 Wow, FB has gone full Two Minutes' Hate.

Posted by: jakeman at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (hSm08)

382 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.  I'm the Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres to these Milo Moirs.  Basketball is dead.  Long live basketball!

Posted by: Larry Bird at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (yhJhK)

383 Yeah, spike leotards. there's a stand-up coexister, right there. Helen Thomas' douche called in sick and spunk lee's phone rang.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (x3YFz)

384 351 I hope Adam Silver enjoyed his time as NBA commissioner. Backing the owners into a corner and making them vote against their interests is a sure way of getting canned. Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2014 02:59 PM (u2a4R) Kind of like paying members of Congress $500,000 or so a year.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (HVff2)

385 If I owned a team and was told I was not allowed to run it, I would pull an Ellis Wyatt.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (ZkzmI)

386
Shouldn't the word 'Democrat' be in the headline?

I learned that from the media.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (hJauc)

387 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 03:00 PM (3AsfL) This may be true, although he hedged when asked if he had polled the owners. And still, if I were sterling I'd start making business decisions right away then, challenge them to enforce the ban before they can vote on the dissolving.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (HDwDg)

388 > 370 347 - If that's all it takes to yank the ownership away from somebody, wouldn't the Cubs have already been ripped away from the inept cabal of nincompoops running that team? Posted by: BurtTC 1. The Cubs are a VERY profitable franchise 2. Every other team in the NL benefits by beating their ass. Cub's owners are IDEAL owners for the rest of the league.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (h53OH)

389 I don't have a problem with this.

This is a good ruling (if 15 years too late). Maybe a bit harsh - a multi-year ban would have been more fair with the understanding that he's got one strike left, but he's been a bad guy with a history of poor behavior for a long time, and it seems Silver is making up for past transgressions for which Sterling was never punished, as well. Stuff like this is damaging to the league as a whole, and I doubt this could have happened without the blessing of the other owners. If he's so toxic they don't want to associate with him, then that's their prerogative.

Hopefully it'll placate all the idiots who thought it meant they should or even could forcibly take the team away from him. I can't imagine he'd want to keep the team now, and this is the right way to force him out without confiscation of property.

Posted by: Jarrod at April 29, 2014 11:03 AM (3F6z4)

390 221 Sell the team to the Hassidic Jews. The Clippers would be a very appropriate nameÂ… Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 02:43 PM (CMkNk) ----------------- Okay, that's funny. Also funny is imagining Al Sharpton's reaction should such a naughty fantasy come true!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 29, 2014 11:04 AM (dfYL9)

391 Hah... reminds me: we used to monitor (via sound, not video) the basic training dorms when we pulled CQ.

The females were NASTY. The guys just farted and snored. The women? The nasty shit they'd discuss? Wow. Just wow.
***

My first real 40 hour a week job back in the early 80s was on a factory assembly line.  I was the only guy one a line with about 17-18 women. 

That cured me of any last remaining illusions about women and their public face.

I've yet to hear any group of men get as rowdy and vulgar as they were on a daily basis.  Especially on a Monday morning when the subject of "how was your weekend" came up.  

Posted by: B at April 29, 2014 11:04 AM (twiRb)

392 PRO TIP: Never make your bitch your archivist.

Posted by: Ike Turner at April 29, 2014 11:04 AM (8ZskC)

393 343 I would love to hear the private conversations that come from Obama when he is with his close cohorts. Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2014 02:58 PM (G+Wff) The public demise of the tapper would be an interesting clown show of hypocrisy.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 11:04 AM (A98Xu)

394 I kissed a girl on the butte there once. Posted by: Citizen X at April 29, 2014 03:02 PM (7ObY1) Thought you said you kissed a girl from Butte... was about to tell you it probably wasn't a girl.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (x3YFz)

395

We could all chip in and hire some whore to blow Ace for 3 years, entice him to say something naughty on tape, release it, and then take over the blog!!!!Posted by: Commissar Pug

 

 

But where exactly would be the downside for Ace??

Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (G+Wff)

396 In many ways, this is Obama's story, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (0HooB)

397 Isn't this what everybody wanted anyway? All outraged all the time over racial matters? I mean we must punish the hate monger, right?

Posted by: dogfish at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (nsOJa)

398 Wow, FB has gone full Two Minutes' Hate.

*checks*
Yup, it's a day that ends in Y.

Posted by: HR at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (ZKzrr)

399 Today attended another class on Catholicism.  It was on saints.

One they focused on was Edith Stein.  Seventh child of a pious Jewish family born in Breslau.  Of how she went to the university and got her degree while losing her faith.  Then after randomly picking up a book on Theresa of Avilar she spent the night reading.  When finished she said 'This is truth.'

She immediately wanted to become a nun of the Carmel Order.  But she was advised to wait and from 1922 to 1933 she taught at a Dominican school where she adopted many of their aesthetic ways.  In 1933 she did become a Carmelite nun in Cologne.  Then Kristalnacht in 1938 saw her being transferred to Holland at Echt in an attempt to protect her.

When Holland fell, the Bishop of Ultrech ordered all sermons to be directed against the rounding up of the Jews.  In response, the Germans arrested all the Jews who had converted to Catholicism.  So the Germans came for her at Echt.  Also seeking refuge there was her sister Rosa.  Stein said, "Come Rosa we go East to save our people."  She willingly went into captivity.

She was taken to Auschwitz in one of the cattle cars.  And immediately sent to a gas chamber, her body cremated, and ashes scattered to the wind.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (W6ugU)

400 So what if the NBA - a private organization - decided it would not allow blacks to own a team. Hey, it's none of your business right? That would be against the law. Taking action against a voluntary member of their organization under their morality clause is not.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (SY2Kh)

401 "I'm pretty sure the NBA has waivers for its monopoly status from the Feds like the NFL and MLB." Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 03:02 PM (uhAkr) No. It has no anti-trust exemption.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (lq3Ak)

402 Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 02:56 PM (+lsX1) Problem is, that from what I am reading, there is no morals clause. Because a morals clause in any Pro Sport contract would be... problematic... What they are doing is the same as Obama with the Russian Sanctions... taking an action because no one will try to stop them... even if they have no real legal standing to do so... same as the IRS crap.... same as the EPA crap.... same as the Obamacare crap. Morality, and American Values left the Law a LONNNGGGG time ago...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (84gbM)

403

@342 It appears that the girlfriend framed him. If she taped a private conversation without his knowledge, I believe it depends on which state it happened in.

------------------

 

My understanding is that recording a conversation in California without the permission of both parties is illegal.  I could be mistaken about that.

 

The real travesty here, though, is that the guy should have been strung up as a racist ages ago.  Kareem Abdul Jabaar's op piece in Time contains a few choice items from the last several years.  It was blatantly obvious to anyone who cared to look that the guy was a racist, and there were non-frivolous law-suits to prove it.

Posted by: junior at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (UWFpX)

404 The NBA is a private organization, of which Sterling is a member. How they choose to enforce their own rules is their business. --- And if they decide they don't want any black members, the government would have absolutely no problem with that.

Posted by: whoever at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (pjMym)

405 Only 1 gay player allowed per year in the NBA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk

Really?  That's 1 gay player after 68 years.  Name another business like that.

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 11:05 AM (MNq6o)

406 If it were me, I'd have a billion dollars to blow on lawyers just for spite. And the lawsuit would outlive me, easy.

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 11:06 AM (MMC8r)

407 NBA's ratings are quite good. The envy of everyone except the NFL. NBA ratings are down a bit this year, but that's after a multi-year rise due to LeBron and the Heat. In total revenue the NBA is #3, behind the NFL and NBA. It does better than MLB on TV ratings, but MLB does much better in live gate revenue -- more games in bigger stadiums. Still, the NBA -- like all pro sports -- has been hitting record revenues in recent years. It's an extremely successful business.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 11:06 AM (ZPrif)

408 Posted by: Jarrod at April 29, 2014 03:03 PM (3F6z4) I agree Sterling's past behavior is questionable but why then did he win an award from the NAACP?

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 11:06 AM (A98Xu)

409 So will the Democrats and the NAACP give back the money he has donated to them over the years?

I mean he's a racist white guy so that money's tainted right?


Right?

RIGHT?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 29, 2014 11:06 AM (JS0vr)

410 There is evidence to support the theory that the IRS will become more sensitive and courteous as a consequence of climate change.

Posted by: Debbie Weaselwords-Schultz at April 29, 2014 11:06 AM (e8kgV)

411

"I would love to hear the private conversations that come from Obama when he is with his close cohorts."

 

 

Paging Barbara Billingsley to the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2014 11:06 AM (BAS5M)

412 Next time, pick an ugly spinster for the archivist job.

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 11:06 AM (MMC8r)

413 That cured me of any last remaining illusions about women and their public face. Posted by: B at April 29, 2014 03:04 PM (twiRb) yup. that whole "ladylike" thing went right out the window with an M67 attached to it.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 11:06 AM (x3YFz)

414 Only MLB has antitrust exemption, no other sports league does.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 11:06 AM (ZPrif)

415

Stuff like this is damaging to the league as a whole, and I
doubt this could have happened without the blessing of the other owners

 

 

people keep saying this.  How?  Show your work.   Sponsors were not abandoning all basketball, just the Clippers.  This hurt the Heat, the Lakers, LeBron, Kobi?  nah

 

there is zero proof of that

 

unless they players said they would strike unless he was gotten rid of

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 11:07 AM (zOTsN)

416

376 -

 

Actually, it was once true, and as far as I know still is, that MLB enjoyed a unique position regarding their monopoly status that other sports leagues do not. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 11:07 AM (TOk1P)

417 Thoughtcrime does not entail death: Thoughtcrime IS death....

Posted by: G. Orwell at April 29, 2014 11:07 AM (DErq5)

418 Somewhere, Marge Schott is laughing.

Posted by: Darles Chickens at April 29, 2014 11:07 AM (z4vvZ)

419 Hopefully it'll placate all the idiots who thought it meant they should
or even could forcibly take the team away from him. I can't imagine
he'd want to keep the team now, and this is the right way to force him
out without confiscation of property.

Posted by: Jarrod at April 29, 2014 03:03 PM (3F6z4)



What happens to him    is   less important than HOW it happened.   Sterling's a dick, yes, but if this is allowed to go through unimpeded then no one -- absolutely no one,   but especially anyone with a little coin in their pocket -- will be able to speak freely    in private ever again without fear of having their   private    words publicized      and used against them.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 11:07 AM (4df7R)

420 Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 29, 2014 03:06 PM (JS0vr The NAACP has said they'll give the money back. Which leads me to guess he didn't give the NAACP itself very much money.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 11:07 AM (HDwDg)

421
375 '343 I would love to hear the private conversations that come from Obama when he is with his close cohorts."

Bingo. Posted by: Lauren at April 29, 2014 03:02 PM  <<<<<<<<<<<

++++++++++++

Seriously, don't you know deep down the Mooch is a total racist much more than TFG?  I do.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2014 11:07 AM (hJauc)

422 Yep. Let's all close ranks around a racist billionaire liberal Democrat under some sort of amorphous misunderstanding of what "free speech" protections entail. This is really the battle we should choose.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 29, 2014 11:07 AM (YhayY)

423 393 221 Sell the team to the Hassidic Jews. The Clippers would be a very appropriate nameÂ… Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 29, 2014 02:43 PM (CMkNk) ----------------- Okay, that's funny. Also funny is imagining Al Sharpton's reaction should such a naughty fantasy come true! Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 29, 2014 03:04 PM (dfYL9) They could change their name to the LA Mohels.

Posted by: Commissar Pug at April 29, 2014 11:08 AM (8c12T)

424 Guy Mohawk go read Michelle's thesis.  There is no doubt on that matter.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:08 AM (W6ugU)

425 343 I would love to hear the private conversations that come from Obama when he is with his close cohorts." Why do you think we can't see any of his writings or college materials?

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 11:08 AM (MMC8r)

426 Silver said that he spoke with "some" owners, but not all. You'd think an emergency conference call would have been in order. Or maybe he called who he wanted to call, heard what he wanted to hear, and then did what he wanted to do.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 11:08 AM (ZshNr)

427 Really? That's 1 gay player after 68 years. Name another business like that. Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 03:05 PM (MNq6o) and magic johnson got aids from a toilet seat... ...riiiiiight. (though the name "magic johnson".... eh.... it has potential)

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 11:08 AM (x3YFz)

428 Isn't this what everybody wanted anyway? All outraged all the time over racial matters? I mean we must punish the hate monger, right? Posted by: dogfish at April 29, 2014 03:05 PM (nsOJa) To Charles Krauthammer's point on the outcry of this and the Bundy case - he states that this shows that racism is not as rampant as the Dems scream out; and the country shows more tolerance than ever in history by this show of force against the few (he calls more generational - see ages) that truly are.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: game over Real Madrid (2) v B.Munich at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (IXrOn)

429 Kind of like paying members of Congress $500,000 or so a year. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 29, 2014 03:03 PM (HVff2) The people who would be most against that pay proposal are the current members of congress. They like it as it is, with limit competition.

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (u2a4R)

430 Silly sport anyway.  As bad as Soccer.

Posted by: trainer's looking for a Militia to join... at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (n4ArD)

431 What a fuggin dog-n-pony show.

There's only so much hypocrisy and phoniness I can take in a day.

The old man seems rather loathsome but the rubes on ESPN have been off the charts nauseating.

The whole thing is sleazy. The NBA, the MFM, the chick, the lawyers, the players...just sleazy.

 






Posted by: dananjcon at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (NpXoL)

432

391 -

 

You are right, of course.  The Cubs are very profitable. 

 

Unlike, for example,  the Houston Astros, where the fans are at  least smart enough to stop supporting  a losing team year after year after year. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (TOk1P)

433 Guy Mohawk go read Michelle's thesis. There is no doubt on that matter. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 03:08 PM (W6ugU) is it in crayon?

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (x3YFz)

434 Sterling is the new black.

Posted by: Snowclone at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (yhJhK)

435 "I would love to hear the private conversations that come from Obama when he is with his close cohorts."


Paging Barbara Billingsley to the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2014 03:06 PM (BAS5M)



He doesn't speak with a negro dialect

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (1Jaio)

436

@423 Which leads me to guess he didn't give the NAACP itself very much money.

-------------------

 

The LA Times had an article quoting an NAACP spokesperson as saying that the amount he'd donated was insignificant.

Posted by: junior at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (UWFpX)

437 Sterling may have donated a couple of grand to Democrats in the 90's, but the intrepid lefty press has discovered that Sterling is a registered Republican. So therefore Sterling is Bundy with money.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (Q3tFF)

438

The NBA is a private organization, of which Sterling is a member. How they choose to enforce their own rules is their business.

 

----------

 

Well, two points...

 

1)  The question isn't if they *can*, the question is if they *should.*  Should we just sit back quietly as the thought police, in whatever area, do their purges?

 

2)  As for the NBA being a private organization, I wonder just how many tax breaks, incentives, and kickbacks the Association has been beneficiary of.  There's more than a little government involvement in the NBA, and I figure that makes it at least some of my business.

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 29, 2014 11:09 AM (eytER)

439
Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 03:05 PM

yeah, didn't think I needed the sarcasm tag on that one.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2014 11:10 AM (hJauc)

440 I just cleaned up on a 20 to 1 wager that this would happen.

Posted by: Pete Rose at April 29, 2014 11:10 AM (VndSC)

441

I dont give one shit about sterling

 

its the idea that your property can be confiscated to satisfy the mob or the state

 

that bothers me

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 11:10 AM (zOTsN)

442 "I mean he's a racist white guy so that money's tainted right?
Right?
RIGHT?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 29, 2014 03:06 PM"


It's reparations, fool!

Posted by: The Congressional Black Caucus at April 29, 2014 11:10 AM (knoK7)

443 Crayon?  Must have confused her's with Joe Biden's.

Michelle's is all in bullet points and exclamations with fractured syntax.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:10 AM (W6ugU)

444 as much as id like to pile on and kick a democrat when hes down i think this is all a little bit too contrived, disingenuous, and sanctimonius (its a democrat operation) it appears he got the same sentence as if he would have said "my favorite n***** in django unchained was stephen because he was the one who helped keep all those other n****** down"

Posted by: sound awake at April 29, 2014 11:11 AM (pk/NG)

445 So when Obama was teaching the tactics of Alinsky everyone thought he was just talking about politics?

Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 29, 2014 11:11 AM (OS9Kh)

446 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 02:52 PM (t3UFN)

So it's kind of like being a Kennedy.

Posted by: Mega at April 29, 2014 11:11 AM (hHFOx)

447 Sterling may have donated a couple of grand to Democrats in the 90's, but the intrepid lefty press has discovered that Sterling is a registered Republican. So therefore Sterling is Bundy with money.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 29, 2014 03:09 PM (Q3tFF)




His real last name is....Koch!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2014 11:11 AM (1Jaio)

448 I also don't get that someone can lose property for being a racist. Can you lose property for being against gay marriage? or amnesty? or let's say you don't believe islam is a religion but a socio-fanatical-fascist movement? --- If you do not believe - and have not always believed - every aspect of the progressive-fascist creed as compiled today at 5:00pm EDT, you are a non-person without rights.

Posted by: whoever at April 29, 2014 11:11 AM (pjMym)

449 Yep. Let's all close ranks around a racist billionaire liberal Democrat under some sort of amorphous misunderstanding of what "free speech" protections entail. This is really the battle we should choose. Close ranks? Us? You really should try reading the comments. The overall consensus is DILLIGAF.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 11:11 AM (0HooB)

450 There's gotta be a way we can use this to hold on the Senate.  I mean, this is some goddamned valuable shit here, we're not just gonna let it go for nothin'!

Posted by: Kochrider at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (yhJhK)

451 Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 03:05 PM

yeah, didn't think I needed the sarcasm tag on that one.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

I know.  Just adding to your post.  Should have phrased it differently but I type like shit and it really takes forever.

Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (MNq6o)

452 "2) As for the NBA being a private organization, I wonder just how many tax breaks, incentives, and kickbacks the Association has been beneficiary of. There's more than a little government involvement in the NBA, and I figure that makes it at least some of my business." Posted by: @JohnTant at April 29, 2014 03:09 PM (eytER) Locally, not Federally.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (lq3Ak)

453 FYI, still nothing-all in Bayern.

Posted by: HR at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (ZKzrr)

454 429 "Silver said that he spoke with "some" owners, but not all." What did Silver say to these owners? "I want to set the precedent so that if someone records your private conversations, we can use it to ban you for life and force the sale of your franchise. Are you OK with that?"

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (u2a4R)

455 "I'm pretty sure the NBA has waivers for its monopoly status from the Feds like the NFL and MLB."

No, only MLB has the broad exemption which prevents owners from moving, etc.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (3AsfL)

456

Sterling's trashy ass jump-off seems to have followed the playbook of Mel Gibson's baby momma when it dawned on her that the funds were going to be cut off. 

 

And if the league wants to address "racism", then they need to do something about Charles Barkley, Michael Wilbon and all the players who yell "n*gger" and "fag" or "faggot" during the game.  And yes, the microphones pick that crap up.  But honestly, the NBA is nothing but a snapshot of all that is wrong in the black community.  Just can't talk about it because then you are being racist.

 

And Spike Lee...fuck you too!  Your movies always sucked.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (GRTce)

457 Junior, I tried reading piece from Daily Caller, but I can't read things from it for one reason or another. I went to Time. Kareem listed all prior incidents, why now? Girlfriend framed him for some reason. WTF is she doing with a man over 80, money is the only thing I can think of.

Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (gjOCp)

458 446 Crayon? Must have confused her's with Joe Biden's.

Michelle's is all in bullet points and exclamations with fractured syntax.
***

It was the various food stains on the pages that made it even harder to read.

Posted by: B at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (twiRb)

459 Whoa. Strike that, it's 0-2, Real.

My thingy's not updating.

Posted by: HR at April 29, 2014 11:12 AM (ZKzrr)

460 I dont give one shit about sterling its the idea that your property can be confiscated to satisfy the mob or the state that bothers me That captures my sentiments quite nicely. This whole thing is an 800-pound SQUIRREL!!111!

Posted by: jakeman at April 29, 2014 11:13 AM (hSm08)

461

>>>Steve Urkel.

 

Wait. That was the Australian guy what got eaten by the croc, right?

Posted by: Bigby's Punchy Fist at April 29, 2014 11:13 AM (3ZtZW)

462 The really stupid person in all this is the skank who leaked the phone call. She had a great gravy train going and she decided to end it virtually overnight. Did she really think the tabloid industry was going to be her meal ticket? Ask that Fisher chick or Gennifer Flowers how lucrative that life is.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 11:13 AM (GW/jL)

463 Close ranks? Us? You really should try reading the comments. The overall consensus is DILLIGAF. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at April 29, 2014 03:11 PM (0HooB) he don't know us very well, do he?

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 11:13 AM (x3YFz)

464 "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me." YMMV

Posted by: Sharkman at April 29, 2014 11:13 AM (S2a8R)

465 Anyone else notice this shit seems to be picking up speed ? Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 29, 2014 02:32 PM (XWw96) This is an excellent point. Seems we are at a cultural moment in time.

Posted by: Max Power at April 29, 2014 11:14 AM (q177U)

466 I also don't get that someone can lose property for being a racist. Can you lose property for being against gay marriage? or amnesty? or let's say you don't believe islam is a religion but a socio-fanatical-fascist movement?

---

If you do not believe - and have not always believed - every aspect of the progressive-fascist creed as compiled today at 5:00pm EDT, you are a non-person without rights.

Posted by: whoever at April 29, 2014 03:11 PM (pjMym)




Unless you've got the Alec Baldwin get out of jail free card, that's how the leftist Thought Crime police are cowing everyone

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2014 11:14 AM (1Jaio)

467 He probably said "Look, I've got a chance to get rid of Sterling once and for all, get Magic back in the League, really make some noise! What do you say, old chum? Next year at St. Bart's will be on me..."

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 11:14 AM (ZshNr)

468 Why the hell are so many people confused about this ? Just because something is within the legal rights of the NBA does not mean its the "right" thing to do, let alone in keeping with the spirit of the freedom and liberty of the founding of this country ? Are there no rights to freely enter and enforce contracts? Freedom of association? Are those not also American principles? If my boss overhears me referring to him as a filthy cocksucker and badmouthing the company, would it be an egregious violation of American principles if he fired me over my speech? Look at it from the perspective of the NBA. How could they not punish the guy, even if only to protect their business interests?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:14 AM (SY2Kh)

469 Posted by: Naes1984 at April 29, 2014 03:07 PM (YhayY) You're not getting this at all. Ranks don't close here unless a particularly stupid thing is uttered.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 11:14 AM (A98Xu)

470 So Magic gets to buy the team and Sharpton and Co get a piece of that sweet fine money? 

That's some Frank Underwood stuff right there.

Posted by: never_comments at April 29, 2014 11:14 AM (wFXrQ)

471 49 The takeaway from all this is two words: Hateful views. Posted by: Soothsayer, performance artist at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (8UCj3) Who determines what are "hateful views" is what concerns me about all this, and what constitutes a hateful view. Obviously Sterling is racist, and a patronizing whoring jerk. Fine, take his franchise away, whatever. But what about other owners? Who is next for the chopping block? Larry H Miller (RIP), who bought the Jazz and brought them to Utah, and his son, the current owner, are both Mormon, and are both most likely conservative. What if they donated to Prop 8 or pro family groups? Should the Jazz be removed from Miller's hands as well? This is the road we are going down now that this whole Sterling thing is playing out like it has.

Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2014 11:14 AM (yRwC8)

472 WTF is she doing with a man over 80, money is the only thing I can think of.
***

Anna Nicole Smith could not be reached for comment...

Posted by: B at April 29, 2014 11:14 AM (twiRb)

473 Oh, and that Slone chick looks hittable, if that's really her picture.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 11:15 AM (0HooB)

474 Phoenix Girl, I agree, it is elder abuse. Girlfriend should be charged.

Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 11:15 AM (gjOCp)

475 and magic johnson got aids from a toilet seat... ...riiiiiight. Is this some sort of "only teh gays get AIDS" thing? Because I'm pretty sure back then people were still getting AIDS from blood transfusions, and unprotected hetero sex, and IV drug use. And there was a bit less public information on same.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 29, 2014 11:15 AM (WhJf8)

476

Locally, not Federally.

 

--------

 

And.....?  Why does the distinction matter?  Only if I'm in LA I can have an opinion?  What about any other NBA market? 

 

 

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 29, 2014 11:15 AM (eytER)

477 Yep. Let's all close ranks around a racist billionaire liberal Democrat under some sort of amorphous misunderstanding of what "free speech" protections entail. This is really the battle we should choose.

Posted by: Naes1984 at April 29, 2014 03:07 PM (YhayY)



Quit being a twit, Naes.    We're not talking about  first amendment issues here.     It's all about the OUTRAGEOUTRAGEOUTRAGE!!!  without a fucking thought to what this all says about the state of American society.       If you think this will stop with one racist old man in the NBA   -- why now, btw?  Why THIS?  WHy not any of the multiple lawsuits against him in the past?  -- then you're clearly naive.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 11:15 AM (4df7R)

478 Yesterday during the Barcelona v Villarreal match, someone in the crowd threw a banana on the field at Dani Alves. His reaction to the racist act? He took a bite out of the banana and tossed the rest. Lots of racism in Europe. Way more than the US. The person who threw the banana on the field was banned for life.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: game over Real Madrid (2) v B.Munich at April 29, 2014 11:15 AM (IXrOn)

479 I haven't watched the NBA or, indeed, any basketball, for years. Why would I? That said, a caller to Limbaugh's program today said he knew who was gunning for ownership of the Clippers (right name?), and that this brouhaha was timed for that, since "everyone" in L.A. knew this guy was a h8tR. (Apologies if another moron adduced this already.)

Posted by: April 19, 1775 at April 29, 2014 11:15 AM (1/4XQ)

480 Spike Lee should be banned for life making movies because of Do the Right Thing.What a turd that everyone pretended was profound.

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2014 11:15 AM (zqvg6)

481

Carol,

 

I agree.  And while Kareem doesn't provide any specific reason for it all coming out now, he seems to be pretty angry that this phone call is what it took to get Sterling nailed for racism.  His piece also suggests that the girlfriend should be prosecuted for her illegal actions.

 

To put it bluntly, he doesn't appear to be happy with anyone involved in this mess.

 

Posted by: junior at April 29, 2014 11:16 AM (UWFpX)

482 I was GM/President of a minor league sports team years ago and was deeply involved in league matters, so I will answer a few questions: 5 $2.5M fine, lifetime ban, NBA will *try* to force a sale. Requires 75% vote from other owners. Don't think NBA has ever done his, unclear of the legality. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 29, 2014 02:23 PM (ZPrif) Minor leagues have done this for years, so there is case law already in place, and the minor leagues use the same lawyers as the major leagues. 65 Sterling should simply shut down today. Immediately cancel their insurance, fire the coaches, the staff, the team. Sell it later. Let the league that just effectively kicked him out deal with the mess. It sounds like he has no motive to continue, why should he? Might as well go out as a bitter old bastard. Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 02:30 PM (ZshNr) The NBA probably has a Letter of Credit or other bond in place that makes sure that there are funds available to run the team for a season. If he were to do this, the NBA calls the LOC, and the NBA operates the team on Sterling's nickel. 97 If this requires a 75% vote by other owners I'm not sure that's going to happen. I am sure that Sterling is not the only guy with a colorful background and Mark Cuban has said that this would be a slippery slope. Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2014 02:32 PM (G+Wff) The vote will be unanimous. The other owners want him gone. 116 Sterling should just shut down Clipper operations in preparation of selling the Clipper brand. So he releases the players and staff from their contracts. Sells off the building. And then sells the name and merchandising contracts to new owner. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 02:34 PM (W6ugU) The NBA owns the name "Clippers" and let's the team use the name and logo. Only the staff is technically under contract to him, the players are under a NBA contract, not an employment contract with the corp/LLC that owns the team. Only the lease for game dates goes to Sterling's company.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 29, 2014 11:16 AM (HxSXm)

483 I dont give one shit about sterling its the idea that your property can be confiscated to satisfy the mob or the state that bothers me His property isn't being confiscated. They didn't revoke his franchise.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:16 AM (SY2Kh)

484

If my boss overhears me referring to him as a filthy cocksucker and badmouthing the company, would it be an egregious violation of American principles if he fired me over my speech?

 

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What if you say it at home on your own time and your wife secretly recorded it and then played it for your boss?

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 29, 2014 11:17 AM (eytER)

485 Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:14 PM (SY2Kh) No... Freedom of Association no longer exists... because you cannot chose who NOT to do business with. Yes, your boss could fire you for saying something bad... But could he FINE you? uh..... no.... They are not firing him.... they are Fining him, and Taking his property by saying he MUST sell.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2014 11:17 AM (84gbM)

486

The scary part of this episode is that one doesn't have to be a billionare NBA owner for something like this to happen.  It's  now being codified into everyday life for everyone.  Speak without political correctness or just speaking honestly about the truth as one sees it, will bring on the wrath of the leftists.  Everything that one owns, every thing that  one has worked for, is destroyed.

 

Yeah.  This isn't just about the NBA. 

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2014 11:17 AM (txtYn)

487

"I retract my claim. I don't know the actual powers of the commissioner either way-- but certainly it seems I cannot rely on my previous hearsay belief that only a 1-year suspension was permitted."

 

 

I am glad that no one went off into wild speculation and waited until they had the facts regarding the contracts that were signed between the league and the franchise holder.  Little things like those can really alter the relationship between parties, including defining what a breach of the franchise agreement is and who gets to make that determination, and what can be done in event of a breach.  wild emotional claims about the death of the Republic have no place where one considers that both the League and the franchise holder are sophisticated business interests well represented by counsel when they entered into these agreements; sophisticated enough to afford hiring the best legal talent available at the beginning of the business relationship and in the event that the relationship goes sour.

 

*ahem*

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Warmth of Spring Grow your Rage at the Outrage Outlet at April 29, 2014 11:17 AM (hLRSq)

488

no.  rent a whore term as head hooker was about to expire and she was being sued by estranged wife for almost 2 million, who wanted the return of "gifts" that wife claimed were marital assets.  Old racist fart was cutting her loose, you can hear that in the call, and she was getting sued. 

 

She is a bit long in the tooth for this line of work, so she says she is writing a book and  someone prolly paid her more to leak this than to keep it quiet.  The wife only hurts her own assets so it isnt her.  It isnt racist old fart.  The only one to benefit from a leak is Magic, who prolly paid her something, and her publisher, who thinks it will sell more books

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 11:17 AM (zOTsN)

489 As an aside, I think it's amusing that the two antagonists in this saga are named Sterling and Silver. Even the hackest of writers would not pick those names. Not all of Spike Lee's movies sucked. Inside Man was great, and He Got Game was a pretty unsentimental and harsh look at the world of NCAA recruiting. Of course, one could argue that it was as much Denzel Washington as Lee who made those movies watchable and good. . . .

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 11:17 AM (GW/jL)

490

@465 The really stupid person in all this is the skank who leaked the phone call. She had a great gravy train going and she decided to end it virtually overnight. Did she really think the tabloid industry was going to be her meal ticket? Ask that Fisher chick or Gennifer Flowers how lucrative that life is.

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The wife's already suing her for embezzlement.  That gravy train wasn't going to run for much longer.

 

Posted by: junior at April 29, 2014 11:17 AM (UWFpX)

491 "And.....? Why does the distinction matter? Only if I'm in LA I can have an opinion? What about any other NBA market?" Posted by: @JohnTant at April 29, 2014 03:15 PM (eytER) If you are in an NBA market, yes. If you are in 95% of the rest of the country. You are not being "taxed" for an NBA team. -That was my point.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 11:18 AM (lq3Ak)

492 >>She had a great gravy train going and she decided to end it virtually overnight. Nope. The estranged wife is already going after the 2.5 million in gifts that Sterling has given to the mistress, so this is her way to exit with a bang (and she may even have struck up a deal with Magic or someone else to release the tapes).

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2014 11:18 AM (8zTpe)

493 he don't know us very well, do he? Obliviously not. Reading comprehension skilz aren't too good either.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 11:18 AM (0HooB)

494 OT: so now that we've pounded the 81 year old pedophile billionaire, the NBA, the racebaiters and the MSM into the mud (for the umpteenth time): Some good news: Got my Gerber MKII in today. Don't recall who here gave me the recommendation for it but, the first thing I did was go outside and thrust it hilt-deep into my land. it's a family thing. Fantastic knife.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 11:18 AM (x3YFz)

495

478 -

 

Magic Johnson did NOT get HIV from hetero sex. 

 

I would bet a million dollars on it. 

 

People  seem to have a hard time wrapping their heads  around the notion of gay men who get married and even have children. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 11:18 AM (TOk1P)

496 IIRC, illegally recorded statements (such as happened here), are not allowable in court. If Sterling sues, the MBS might not be able to use that statement in court, and thus the courts could rule against them.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 29, 2014 11:19 AM (K1sEu)

497 To put it bluntly, he doesn't appear to be happy with anyone involved in this mess.

Posted by: junior at April 29, 2014 03:16 PM (UWFpX)



Which shows that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, at least in this, has his fucking priorities straight.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 11:19 AM (4df7R)

498
I wonder just how many tax breaks, incentives, and kickbacks the Association has been beneficiary of.
Posted by: @JohnTant

Locally, not Federally.
Posted by: Slapweasel




Suck it, NBA.

Posted by: Major League Baseball - A Federally Approved Trust - Holla!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 29, 2014 11:19 AM (kdS6q)

499 #47 No, this is not the country of our grandfathers, and that is a mixed blessing. I certainly don't like how the sports media doesn't shame players with multiple baby mamas for being poor fathers-while otherizing those with lots of children from their (one) baby mama. And that being said, minorities actually are allowed to play in sports. But I think that this reflexive defense of someone like the Clippers owner is unnecessary. I'm personally disgusted that someone who is porking a hot girl decades his junior is so insecure that he is disgusted by her associating with minorities. Seriously, how many younger men have tried to date/marry/pork her (probably being beta nice guys) and here this insecure asshole gets to use her for his own private games? It's always a rectal ramming having to listen to the likes of Obama or Jackson rant on racial issues. I get it. But it's also annoying to hear reflexive defenses of shitty people just because the left jumps on it. (And I'm of the opinion, shared by an author at pocketfulofliberty.com, I believe, that this trivial nonsense is not for a president to discuss in the middle of an Asian trip).

Posted by: Danny at April 29, 2014 11:19 AM (rHf1i)

500 Hit 'n' run comment from my lunchtime. "Buying" a professional sports team is like "buying" software from any of the big vendors. The problem is that he doesn't really own the team. He owns the license to the team. The league retains all ownership rights. Really should have read the EULA. (Yes, that's a bad analogy. Deal with it.)

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 29, 2014 11:20 AM (7CPEj)

501 ... and the country shows more tolerance than ever in history by this show of force against the few (he calls more generational - see ages) that truly are. Posted by: artisanal 'ette That would seem like a reasonable position, until one realizes that the "show of force" pretty much is only against the racism of whites. How many times are we told only whites can be racists? I contend that racism is much more rampant and accepted by other races. Do I want the outrage the other way? No. I just want the outrage to die away. Yes, there will be ugly things said, but apparently too few have bought into "...and words will never hurt me" but instead prefer the role of victim status.

Posted by: dogfish at April 29, 2014 11:20 AM (nsOJa)

502 3/4 vote is 22 or 24 (depending if Sterling's vote counts) and none of the other owners can stand him.  It's over.  If he tries anything silly like selling for a dollar or to a relative they just dissolve his franchise and award an expansion team to the same arena 5 minutes later.  Silver may be green on camera but don't forget that he's been groomed for years to be Commissioner by David Stern.

Rumor has it that the owners wanted Stern to push Sterling out years ago but he was so sick at the time they thought he would die soon and pretended he wasn't there.  He didn't.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 11:20 AM (3AsfL)

503 What are all these bubbles? And is it getting warm in here?

Posted by: The Frog at April 29, 2014 11:20 AM (hHFOx)

504 Sraight men in Africa do get AIDs from straight sex.Of course they have a particular way of doing it that isn't universally popular...

Posted by: steevy at April 29, 2014 11:21 AM (zqvg6)

505

If you are in an NBA market, yes. If you are in 95% of the rest of the country. You are not being "taxed" for an NBA team.

-That was my point.

 

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So in other words, people don't have standing.

 

Funny how that dodge gets used. 

 

OTOH, the NBA broadcasts all over the place, so presumably its customer base...eg the viewing public...would also have a valid opinion.  The customers are stakeholders, after all....

Posted by: @JohnTant at April 29, 2014 11:21 AM (eytER)

506 What if they donated to Prop 8 or pro family groups? Should the Jazz be removed from Miller's hands as well? This is the road we are going down now that this whole Sterling thing is playing out like it has. Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2014 03:14 PM (yRwC This is right on point. What happens when the next villain owner turns out to be a climate change denier? I just can't imagine the bulk of the other owners giving up the right to have private thoughts and conversations.

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2014 11:21 AM (u2a4R)

507
97 If this requires a 75% vote by other owners I'm not sure that's going to happen. I am sure that Sterling is not the only guy with a colorful background and Mark Cuban has said that this would be a slippery slope.
Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2014 02:32 PM (G+Wff)


The vote will be unanimous. The other owners want him gone.



Then the other owners are    clearly   saints who need never fear   something like this happening to THEM.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 11:21 AM (4df7R)

508 I for one was shocked when Isaiah Thomas was busted as a serial sexual harass-er when he worked for the Knicks. I always figured he and Magic would open up a nice muffin shop by the shore after their careers ended.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 11:21 AM (ZshNr)

509 Yep. Let's all close ranks around a racist billionaire liberal Democrat under some sort of amorphous misunderstanding of what "free speech" protections entail. This is really the battle we should choose. Yeah, I really don't understand the instinct to defend this guy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:21 AM (SY2Kh)

510 His property isn't being confiscated. They didn't revoke his franchise.

Posted by: Hollowpoint

 

he cant enter his own building

 

he cat interact with his own employees

 

he can make decisions about his own business

 

he cant even watch a game

 

that is a taking

 

and you know it

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 11:21 AM (zOTsN)

511 @489 Sen. Markey (Communist-Massachusetts), and some Muslim guy in the House introduced a bill to search for Political Incorrectness everywhere, The Hate Crime Reporting Act of 2014. http://preview.tinyurl.com/n83ktql

Posted by: April 19, 1775 at April 29, 2014 11:22 AM (1/4XQ)

512 Magic Johnson did NOT get HIV from hetero sex.

I would bet a million dollars on it.

People seem to have a hard time wrapping their heads around the notion of gay men who get married and even have children.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 03:18 PM (TOk1P)

 

 

People in Los Angeles have known for a LONG time that Magic went both ways.  That's his business and all, but the lying and false image he put up was and continues to be unreal.  Notice how the media doesn't cover his younger son and said son's boyfriend.  Once the media found out his son was gay, they ran a few pictures and then there was a media blackout.  Magic Johnson is full of shit.

Posted by: I Be That Chick at April 29, 2014 11:22 AM (GRTce)

513 Nood.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2014 11:22 AM (knoK7)

514 Bottom line is I want everyone to be held  to  the same standard.    

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2014 11:23 AM (m2CN7)

515 Yep. Let's all close ranks around a racist billionaire liberal Democrat under some sort of amorphous misunderstanding of what "free speech" protections entail. This is really the battle we should choose.

Yeah, I really don't understand the instinct to defend this guy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:21 PM (SY2Kh)



The fact that you think we are defending Sterling shows that you haven't been paying     attention to what    any of us have been saying.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 29, 2014 11:23 AM (4df7R)

516 IIRC, illegally recorded statements (such as happened here), are not allowable in court. If Sterling sues, the MBS might not be able to use that statement in court, and thus the courts could rule against them. They weren't recorded illegally if he consented to being recorded- and it's likely he did if she's his personal archivist.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:23 AM (SY2Kh)

517

I am not defending him

 

I hate the mob

 

the mob that says fire the head of Mozilla, take Sterling's team, and kill Bundy's cattle

 

that mob.  your mob

Posted by: thunderb at April 29, 2014 11:23 AM (zOTsN)

518 Why is there so much speculation about Magic buying the team? I'd guess that most of his personal money got tied up in the Dodgers, unless he can put that up as collateral for the Clippers. Or when people say "Magic" is that shorthand for an ownership team that he heads?

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 11:24 AM (GW/jL)

519 Some owners are more equal than others.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 29, 2014 11:24 AM (32Ze2)

520 People seem to have a hard time wrapping their heads around the notion of gay men who get married and even have children. No, I can wrap my head around that just fine. What I don't agree with is, "Anyone who gets AIDS got it from gay sex." That may be truer now than when Johnson got AIDS. There's a lot of good information out there on how to protect yourself better. Back then though, how many NBA players were wearing rubbers every time? He may very well have been having gay unprotected sex, I don't know. But the idea that heterosexuals just don't get AIDS is silly.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 29, 2014 11:25 AM (WhJf8)

521 WE SHOULD TAKE HIS FUCKING HOUSE TOO!

Posted by: THE MOB at April 29, 2014 11:25 AM (32Ze2)

522

507 -

 

It's true, some men get HIV from having sex with women.

 

It's also true there are countries in Africa where it is  even greater taboo to have gay sex than it is here.  And leaders of said African countries where they pretend gay sex is non-existent within their borders.

 

About  70% of all HIV transmissions  are from male on male sex.  Over 20% are IV needle use.  Something less than 10% are females who acquire it from their male  partners or IV needles. 

 

That leaves a very very tiny fraction of males acquiring it from females. 

 

Very tiny fraction, and I could explain the circumstances under which it  occurs, but you probably don't  want  to  hear it.  Especially if you plan to eat sometime  this week.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 11:26 AM (TOk1P)

523 I know that reality doesn't allow for the dramatic closing tantrum I'm projecting onto Sterling, I'd just like to see some push back against that kind of gross use of power. Three days since the tape was released, and it's all over for Sterling. If it can happen to him, it can happen to anyone. As to it being a private organization, that's true, everyone gets it. But we don't need laws to change or Government to act in order for things to become acceptable. Remember the day blow jobs became "not sex"? Wiretapping just became a means to "social justice".

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 11:27 AM (ZshNr)

524 This whole thing is a shit show from start to finish. Sterling's a notorious racist and asshole, but the utter speed which this has taken on and the lack of concrete *ACTIONABLE* evidence of wrongdoing makes this whole thing very disturbing. I hate having to agree with Mark Cuban, but the whole thing comes off as setting a horrible precident where an owner can be demonized and forced to sell after an orchestrated campaign. I think Sterling has no place in the NBA, but the way that Silver and the NBA is going about pushing him out is going to be a major issue for years to come.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 29, 2014 11:27 AM (APuJ7)

525 363 Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 02:56 PM (ZshNr)

He was part owner of the Lakers for a while.
If he wanted in, why couldn't he get it?

It is interesting that someone from "Harlem Public Radio" (Bronx maybe? Somewhere in NY) asked specifically about him during the presser.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at April 29, 2014 03:01 PM (HDwDg)

++++

In a word, price. If you just go knocking on the door of one of the guys who owns an NBA franchise and ask him to sell, you can expect to pay a premium. But, a guy under the gun, forced to sell? Fire sale price, baby.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 29, 2014 11:27 AM (IN7k+)

526 So Ferris Bueller's girlfriend got a Twitter account and broke this news?

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 11:27 AM (GW/jL)

527 474 I'll defend-loudly-a Mormon of good character who gets in hot PC waters for supporting Prop 8 or something of that nature regarding his conscience. But I'm not going to get butthurt that an insecure old man stirs up outrage. Sure, this outrage would be better used on Putin, Ukraine, exploding national debt-whatever. But it doesn't take a politically correct fuckwad to get pissed over hearing someone say that they can't stand their girlfriend be in the presence of blacks. I'm kind of disappointed that this has 500+ comments as opposed to the collective shrug of the shoulders that it merits.

Posted by: Danny at April 29, 2014 11:27 AM (rHf1i)

528 356 "I'm curious how they intend to enforce what they just announced (assuming any business decisions get made prior to the owner's vote.)" Silver never gives that presser without the other owner's consent. If he didn't have the votes it wouldn't have been proposed. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 03:00 PM (3AsfL) The NBA Executive Committee probably gave Silver the go-ahead to do all of this, and the EC is made up of the very key owners of the league. These are the guys the other owners go to for guidance.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 29, 2014 11:27 AM (HxSXm)

529 The fact that you think we are defending Sterling shows that you haven't been paying attention to what any of us have been saying. I have, and while the slippery slope concerns aren't without merit, I'm also seeing a lot of nonsense about his rights being violated and generally coming up with excuses to defend the guy. Thing is, we're not talking about someone who expressed views that are reasonably mainstream, like opposing gay marriage for instance. It's (almost) universally accepted that the guy is a racist, something his comments clearly revealed.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:28 AM (SY2Kh)

530 Very tiny fraction, and I could explain the circumstances under which it occurs, but you probably don't want to hear it. Especially if you plan to eat sometime this week. Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 03:26 PM (TOk1P) Uh oh.

Posted by: Rob Ford at April 29, 2014 11:28 AM (GW/jL)

531 Can we criticize the manner in which Sterling's comments were released, and the extreme self-righteous reactions to it, without being accused of "closing ranks to defend this guy"?

Racism is baaaaad. We know this, already.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 29, 2014 11:28 AM (Q3tFF)

532 Yeah, I really don't understand the instinct to defend this guy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:21 PM (SY2Kh)

 

Because  your instinct is to be the contrarian.  Always.    No one here is defending this guy's apparent bigotry about blacks.  They are  commenting on whether the sentence fits the crime,  the  hypocrisy,  the privacy issues  and mob mentality.   

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2014 11:28 AM (m2CN7)

533 521 Why is there so much speculation about Magic buying the team? I'd guess that most of his personal money got tied up in the Dodgers, unless he can put that up as collateral for the Clippers. Or when people say "Magic" is that shorthand for an ownership team that he heads? --- Magic is the figurehead for the Dodgers group, IIRC... he has some money involved but he's more of the spokesperson for the group who owns the team, much like Nolan Ryan was the front-man for the current ownership group that bought the Texas Rangers in bankruptcy court until he stepped away. If a basketball team in LA were for sale and an ownership group was to step forward, Magic would clearly be a part of the group for multiple reasons.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 29, 2014 11:28 AM (APuJ7)

534 Yeah, I really don't understand the instinct to defend this guy. Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:21 PM (SY2Kh) Is anyone here really defending him? Maybe as a business owner and a citizen but not personally, not the despicable human being that he is, his vileness pretty much beyond dispute. I see it more as being aware of how this sort of stuff has played out historically, that has people here getting nervous. Morons are smart, they see beyond one incident to the writing on the wall. It's fine and dandy to march the truly deserving to the guillotine; what you do with that guillotine afterwards, whose heads roll next, is what I think people here are concerned about. Because no way this purge stops with just Sterling.

Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2014 11:29 AM (yRwC8)

535 Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:28 PM (SY2Kh A fair point. However, one does worry that all this banning does is enable future blackmail. Make an off color joke in private? Well then, prepare for media destruction.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 29, 2014 11:30 AM (HDwDg)

536 Only the lawyers win.

Posted by: Iblis at April 29, 2014 11:31 AM (9221z)

537 Yeah, I really don't understand the instinct to defend this guy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:21 PM (SY2Kh)

 

There really isn't anything to defend.  Sterling is a very wealthy sophisticated businessman well represented by very able counsel.  The NBA as an organization exists solely to market entertainment.  The NBA is very responsive to anything that lessens the market for their entertainment.*

 

Both the NBA and Sterling were represented by good, expensive counsel during the franchis purchase negotiations and over the years since.  The terms of the agreement were very well-explained to both parties.  The NBA is acting under what it believes are its rights under the contracts it and Sterling agreed to.  If the NBA is wrong there will be a court to tell them that.**

 

*I am certain the NBA can determine  what it is in its best interests or not.

**Sterling can more than afford the legal talent to make the NBA regret making a mistake, the NBA knows that, and I would guess the NBA considered everything very carefully before acting.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Warmth of Spring Grow your Rage at the Outrage Outlet at April 29, 2014 11:31 AM (hLRSq)

538 The "archivist" thing sounds just way too convenient. They were arguing, she was baiting him, he was trying to ditch her. This was a bitch-fest, not a recording for the ages. I'm sure someone told her that that was a slick way of getting around legal trouble. She also said he often forgets what he says so she records him, yet there's no benefit of the doubt for his apparently "addled" mind when it gets all race-y.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 11:32 AM (ZshNr)

539 Somewhere in Heaven, Jackie Robinson is crying about that. --- After all the effort to get blacks into baseball, the reality is that they either aren't interested in the sport or don't play it well enough to dominate it. Only about 8% of players are black vs. 13% of the population. There are far more Hispanics. Most fans seem to be white/Hispanic. Many great black and mixed race players, but baseball isn't basketball.

Posted by: whoever at April 29, 2014 11:33 AM (pjMym)

540 439 The LA Times had an article quoting an NAACP spokesperson as saying that the amount he'd donated was insignificant. Posted by: junior at April 29, 2014 03:09 PM (UWFpX) --------------- I read somewhere that he used to give "thousands" of tickets to the local NAACP every year --- so they could hand them out to poor children or something. I suspect they were often (mostly?) used by nice middle-class NAACP members.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 29, 2014 11:34 AM (dfYL9)

541 What if you say it at home on your own time and your wife secretly recorded it and then played it for your boss? I'd be plenty pissed at my non-existent wife, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if my boss fired me (or fined me in the form of an unpaid suspension) over it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:34 AM (SY2Kh)

542 In a word, price. If you just go knocking on the door of one of the guys who owns an NBA franchise and ask him to sell, you can expect to pay a premium. But, a guy under the gun, forced to sell? Fire sale price, baby.

This is just stupid. An NBA franchise in LA is never going for a fire sale price. Do you really believe that Magic Johnson would be the only person in America interested in buying an NBA team?

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 11:34 AM (+lsX1)

543 As someone mentioned earlier, I would love to hear private conversations in NBA locker rooms. Or conversations between Obama and Holder in the Oval office. It might be eye-opening to one or two people.

Hell, I ride public transportation with minorities and they certainly don't hide the fact that they don't like "crackas" or worse. But, Bundy.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 29, 2014 11:34 AM (Q3tFF)

544 Something he could've avoided by not saying racist shit over the phone to his "personal archivist". Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 02:52 PM (SY2Kh) In at least one of the recordings, the conversation wasn't over the phone; she handed him a glass of juice mid-conversation.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 11:34 AM (2AqeI)

545 It's not about just the money. It's about being in the very exclusive club of owners. They accept who they want, when they want.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 11:35 AM (ZshNr)

546 The "archivist" thing sounds just way too convenient. They were arguing, she was baiting him, he was trying to ditch her. If he was trying to ditch her, why would he give a shit whether she posed with black dudes on Instagram or brought them to games?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:36 AM (SY2Kh)

547 After all the effort to get blacks into baseball, the reality is that they either aren't interested in the sport or don't play it well enough to dominate it. Only about 8% of players are black vs. 13% of the population. There are far more Hispanics. Most fans seem to be white/Hispanic. Many great black and mixed race players, but baseball isn't basketball. --- Talent goes where the money is and kids also tend to play whatever they grew up watching. The money for poor athletic kids was in boxing a long time ago but isn't there anymore unless you're Floyd Mayweather or Manny Paqiano. The money for baseball used to be much better than that of basketball and football IIRC. The emergence of the NFL and NBA as huge-money leagues, which only dates back to the early 80s in the NBA's case, likely started the flood of talent to those sports instead of baseball, which isn't as much of a spectator sport either.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 29, 2014 11:36 AM (APuJ7)

548 He seems to be a nasty senile old man, but what happened of freedom of speech? How about unlawful recording? Expect more of this from the race police...

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 29, 2014 11:37 AM (9+ccr)

549 He distinctly told her "You're not that girl", when describing who he wanted as a girlfriend and what he expected.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 11:37 AM (ZshNr)

550 Correct me if I'm wrong but is Sterling getting a lifetime ban for expressing thoughtcrime in a PRIVATE conversation?

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 29, 2014 11:38 AM (HEo6y)

551 If he was trying to ditch her, why would he give a shit whether she posed with black dudes on Instagram or brought them to games?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:36 PM (SY2Kh)

 

You are aware of   the term chronological order right?

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2014 11:38 AM (m2CN7)

552 "Thing is, we're not talking about someone who expressed views that are reasonably mainstream, like opposing gay marriage for instance. It's (almost) universally accepted that the guy is a racist, something his comments clearly revealed." Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:28 PM (SY2Kh) The thing is, he has a right to be racist. It's not socially acceptable and his views would be shunned in polite society, but he can think and say anything he wants. What makes this situation so touchy is that he thought he was having a private conversation. If we believe anything about freedom of speech, we have to be willing to stand up for guys like this who think and say things we don't agree with. We can say we don't agree with him, but for God's sake, let's not side with people who would make it a crime to think and say things not in the mainstream.

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2014 11:39 AM (u2a4R)

553 Some of the transcripts I've seen said phone call, but there could be others that were in person. Barely had the time to invoke the 24 hour rule before the story ended.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 29, 2014 11:40 AM (ZshNr)

554 Then the other owners are clearly saints who need never fear something like this happening to THEM. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit at April 29, 2014 03:21 PM (4df7R) It's like being on a jury. You hope you are never on the other end, but you know you could be.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 29, 2014 11:40 AM (HxSXm)

555 Correct me if I'm wrong but is Sterling getting a lifetime ban for expressing thoughtcrime in a PRIVATE conversation?

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WILL YOU STOP DEFENDING THIS GUY?!?!?!?

Posted by: I wnet there at April 29, 2014 11:40 AM (Q3tFF)

556 I am not defending him I hate the mob the mob that says fire the head of Mozilla, take Sterling's team, and kill Bundy's cattle The difference being that "the mob" consists of "almost everybody", not a handful of activists or overreaching government bureaucrats. The NBA is protecting their interests. If it's not Sterling's fault his comments were made public, neither is it the fault of the NBA.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:41 AM (SY2Kh)

557 "I read somewhere that he used to give "thousands" of tickets to the local NAACP every year --- so they could hand them out to poor children or something. "

That's common.  Empty seats in an NBA arena stand out like a sore thumb and this is, after all, the Clippers.

A friend used to work in sales for the Wizards and they had him pulling people from the upper areas to sit in the lower empty season ticket seats for bigger televised games so it wouldn't be empty.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 11:41 AM (3AsfL)

558 550 There is also the not so subtle reality behind who plays baseball, or rather, who learns to play baseball. Once upon a time, a 19% fatherlessness rate among blacks merited a paper screaming about a crisis on the horizon. Now a 70% rate merits crickets from race huckster. The reality is that boys need fathers to play baseball in this country. (Yes, I realize that there are "baseball mills" in places like Puerto Rico and that Hispanics don't have the best fatherlessness rate either).

Posted by: Danny at April 29, 2014 11:42 AM (rHf1i)

559 545 In a word, price. If you just go knocking on the door of one of the guys
who owns an NBA franchise and ask him to sell, you can expect to pay a
premium. But, a guy under the gun, forced to sell? Fire sale price,
baby.

This is just stupid. An NBA franchise in LA is never going for a fire sale price. Do you really believe that Magic Johnson would be the only person in America interested in buying an NBA team?

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 29, 2014 03:34 PM (+lsX1)

++++

Do you not understand how a free market works? If someone wants to buy from someone who isn't much interested in selling, they will have to pay more then in a situation when it is known that the owner is required to sell. It really isn't a difficult concept to understand.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 29, 2014 11:42 AM (IN7k+)

560 Poor fuckin guy. All he wanted was that his arm candy maintain the fiction that she wasn't sucking three miles of black cock when not occupied with changing his adult undergarment or mixing him a fresh vodka-and-Ensure. He specifically told her he didn't mind if she did it, just don't call attention to it. Is it too much for a sugar daddy to ask that you defend the brand? Holy shit, it's like you just can't get reliable whores on the west coast anymore.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 29, 2014 11:43 AM (CJjw5)

561 "The thing is, he has a right to be racist."

Yes, and clubs have a right to kick out racists.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 11:44 AM (3AsfL)

562 (Yes, I realize that there are "baseball mills" in places like Puerto Rico and that Hispanics don't have the best fatherlessness rate either).

Posted by: Danny at April 29, 2014 03:42 PM (rHf1i)

 

Nice that you add a comment that destroys your previous statement.

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2014 11:44 AM (m2CN7)

563 So Sterling is suspended by Silver because he told his gold digger he didn't want her black boyfriends at the games.  Well at least there's no pink in this news story for a change.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 29, 2014 11:44 AM (DL2i+)

564 Correct me if I'm wrong but is Sterling getting a lifetime ban for expressing thoughtcrime in a PRIVATE conversation? Yes. A private conversation that was made public, resulting in a public outcry that the NBA can't reasonably ignore without a public backlash that would cost them financially.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 11:45 AM (SY2Kh)

565 Do you not understand how a free market works? If someone wants to buy from someone who isn't much interested in selling, they will have to pay more then in a situation when it is known that the owner is required to sell. It really isn't a difficult concept to understand. That will not happen in Donald Sterling's lifetime. $1.9 billion dollars will buy you a fucking blizzard of attorney-produced paper to tie this shit up in the courts until the sun is a cold, dead husk in space.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 29, 2014 11:46 AM (CJjw5)

566 As usual, EoJ nails it.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 29, 2014 11:46 AM (TM1p8)

567 So is the NAACP going to give back ALL of the money that Sterling gave them over the last 20 years?

That would only be right, after all: They can't accept a racist's money, because then they would become racist too.

And we wouldn't want that now, would we??

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 29, 2014 11:46 AM (wtvvX)

568

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 29, 2014 03:43 PM (CJjw5)

 

You joke and pretty good  by the way,  but  everyone has ignored that was the entire basis of his comments.  

Posted by: polynikes at April 29, 2014 11:46 AM (m2CN7)

569   Just keep your damn mouth shut and think approved thoughts, and this won't happen to you.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 29, 2014 11:47 AM (Q3tFF)

570 if she's his "archivist" he may have given consent . . . but surely he didn't give consent to give them to the media.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 11:48 AM (2AqeI)

571 25 He's a witch!
Posted by: NotCoach at April 29, 2014 02:26 PM (rsudF)
He turned me into a newt.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 11:48 AM (XeVA7)

572

Defending Sterling?  Not.  I''ve known this guy was crap for over 30 years.  I personally could care a less what happens to this foollish old fossil. 

Remember the leftists never stop.  If they succeed at their attempts to police speech and private property it will only be pushed farther and father into areas we'd never have imagined before.

Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2014 11:48 AM (G+Wff)

573 "Do you not understand how a free market works? If someone wants to buy from someone who isn't much interested in selling, they will have to pay more then in a situation when it is known that the owner is required to sell. It really isn't a difficult concept to understand."

The Clippers are worth well over a billion dollars. There's going to be a bidding war.  Owning an NBA team is the new chic thing for billionaires and an amazing investment.  Sterling originally paid $12 million.

The Milwaukee Bucks just sold for $550 million.  It was valued at $400 million. That's Milwaukee.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 11:49 AM (3AsfL)

574 567 Correct me if I'm wrong but is Sterling getting a lifetime ban for expressing thoughtcrime in a PRIVATE conversation?

Yes. A private conversation that was made public, resulting in a public outcry that the NBA can't reasonably ignore without a public backlash that would cost them financially.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:45 PM (SY2Kh)

There's a huge difference between ignoring Sterling's comments and banning him for life which effectively takes control of his business away permanently. You understand this, right?

Posted by: Mætenloch 'Psycho' Soyer at April 29, 2014 11:50 AM (pAlYe)

575

The difference being that "the mob" consists of "almost everybody", not a handful of activists or overreaching government bureaucrats.

 

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I bet if I worked hard enough, I could apply that  concept  to the First Amendment!

 

Fascist shit is OK if "almost everybody" agrees.  That's gold, baby.

Posted by: JUSTICE Stephen Breyer at April 29, 2014 11:51 AM (eytER)

576 Talent goes where the money is and kids also tend to play whatever they grew up watching. The money for poor athletic kids was in boxing a long time ago but isn't there anymore unless you're Floyd Mayweather or Manny Paqiano. The money for baseball used to be much better than that of basketball and football IIRC. The emergence of the NFL and NBA as huge-money leagues, which only dates back to the early 80s in the NBA's case, likely started the flood of talent to those sports instead of baseball, which isn't as much of a spectator sport either. Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 29, 2014 03:36 PM (APuJ7) Baseball is a suburbs sport now. If you go to any city, the baseball fields are mostly gone replaced with soccer fields and basketball courts. Go out to the surrounding counties and you will see field after field of kids playing softball and baseball. Funny thing about baseball is just how huge the players' contracts are. The lowest paid baseball player gets more than the lowest football player, and his chances of having a longer career are much better. The best baseball players can make about $15-20M a season for 10-12 years. Boxers don't get "paid" all that much anymore since most of their purse goes to trainers, managers, cornermen, and of course 75% to the promoter.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 29, 2014 11:51 AM (HxSXm)

577 "Just keep your damn mouth shut and think approved thoughts, and this won't happen to you.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 29, 2014 03:47 PM (Q3tFF)"

 

 

And have that white-shoe law firm you hired to represent you in the franchise purchase negotiations explain very carefully what can get you in trouble with the franchise.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Warmth of Spring Grow your Rage at the Outrage Outlet at April 29, 2014 11:53 AM (hLRSq)

578 Funny thing about baseball is just how huge the players' contracts are. The lowest paid baseball player gets more than the lowest football player, and his chances of having a longer career are much better. The best baseball players can make about $15-20M a season for 10-12 years. --- That's if you make it to The Show. Minor-league players make jack-shit, even if you were a high draftee, until you reach X number of years of service. The benefits at the top may be great for a long period of time but the chances of getting to even the MLB minimum is low.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 29, 2014 11:54 AM (APuJ7)

579 To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?

Posted by: Foul Harold at April 29, 2014 11:55 AM (FGvan)

580 That will not happen in Donald Sterling's lifetime. $1.9 billion dollars will buy you a fucking blizzard of attorney-produced paper to tie this shit up in the courts until the sun is a cold, dead husk in space.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 29, 2014 03:46 PM (CJjw5)

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It might well end up in the courts, or they may come to some kind of agreement where he leaves on his own. But, if it does end up in the courts, that does not mean that Sterling will be in the drivers seat. If the NBA pulls the franchise and awards it to someone else, he could sue. But, unless he can get a court to issue a temporary injunction against the NBA, the NBA team known as the Clippers will be operating under someone else. He can spend years going through all the courts, but as long as the NBA gets to have someone else running the team, it is just news, and not even front page news. Would he win in his initial attempt to get an injunction? I wouldn't count on it. He is not a sympathetic figure, and as much money he has behind him, the NBA has much more.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 29, 2014 11:57 AM (IN7k+)

581 That's common. Empty seats in an NBA arena stand out like a sore thumb and this is, after all, the Clippers. A friend used to work in sales for the Wizards and they had him pulling people from the upper areas to sit in the lower empty season ticket seats for bigger televised games so it wouldn't be empty. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 03:41 PM (3AsfL) Having the NBA/NBDL in your town only cheapens everyone elses' tickets because they flood the marktet place with freebies. And yes, a freebie in theory could help bring people to games, it in reality cheapens the value of the ticket. Once people get used to getting the freebie, they sure as hell don't want to pay face value for the ticket.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 29, 2014 11:59 AM (HxSXm)

582 580 "Just keep your damn mouth shut and think approved thoughts, and this won't happen to you.
Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 29, 2014 03:47 PM (Q3tFF)"


And have that white-shoe law firm you hired to represent you in the franchise purchase negotiations explain very carefully what can get you in trouble with the franchise.
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And always assume that you are being recorded. They haven't developed mind-reading yet. Yet.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at April 29, 2014 12:02 PM (Q3tFF)

583 There's a huge difference between ignoring Sterling's comments and banning him for life which effectively takes control of his business away permanently. You understand this, right? Of course I understand the difference. What lesser action do you think they should've taken?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 12:04 PM (SY2Kh)

584 It might well end up in the courts, or they may come to some kind of agreement where he leaves on his own. But, if it does end up in the courts, that does not mean that Sterling will be in the drivers seat. If the NBA pulls the franchise and awards it to someone else, he could sue. But, unless he can get a court to issue a temporary injunction against the NBA, the NBA team known as the Clippers will be operating under someone else. He can spend years going through all the courts, but as long as the NBA gets to have someone else running the team, it is just news, and not even front page news. Would he win in his initial attempt to get an injunction? I wouldn't count on it. He is not a sympathetic figure, and as much money he has behind him, the NBA has much more. --- My understanding is that the NBA constitution is written in a way that allows the league to pull an owner's franchise but only for a very limited number of reasons, chief amongst those being insolvency. Sterling's clearly not insolvent, so that won't work. However, without the NBA constitution being made public, it's hard to see what else would be a qualifying reason to force a sale. As far as Sterling's chances go, he's a lawyer, notoriously litigious, and will be tenacious in fighting for control of his team back. I can see him going after every avenue possible to cost the NBA a lot of money and face over this. He may not win but he'll sure go out of his way to make the NBA suffer.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 29, 2014 12:04 PM (APuJ7)

585 If my boss overhears me referring to him as a filthy cocksucker and badmouthing the company, would it be an egregious violation of American principles if he fired me over my speech? If an acquaintance taped you saying that, and then handed the tape to the media, we might be looking at an analogy.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 12:06 PM (2AqeI)

586 They are not firing him.... they are Fining him Good point.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 12:10 PM (2AqeI)

587 If an acquaintance taped you saying that, and then handed the tape to the media, we might be looking at an analogy.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 04:06 PM (2AqeI)

Um, it's not the same thing.  At all.  Do you think being fired and being forced to sell your business are the same thing?  The punishment goes too far, considering how NBA players have done far worse in their private lives that have affected people -- assaulting their spouses, doing drugs, violence, etc.

Posted by: Cory at April 29, 2014 12:12 PM (wgYuH)

588 @577 "Yes. A private conversation that was made public, resulting in a public outcry that the NBA can't reasonably ignore without a public backlash that would cost them financially. Posted by: Hollowpoint " Let me see if I can break this down. The "made public" part was without his knowledge or consent. So, this is not a situation in which the individual was intending to make a public statement, to which one could presumably expect a public response. As to "ignoring" a "public backlash" this is one thing that separates (or in this case doesn't separate) a just system from a mob lynching. This is the proverbial "heckler's veto" on steroids, because we've now given the mob a veto based on anything we've expressed in a private conversation. As many (including Ace) have discussed, and I agree, this is a question of the spirit of a free society, not a First Amendment question. It is, rather, a question of what kind of society produces a First Amendment in the first place. A society with no zone of privacy is, by definition, totalitarian. But in this case, instead of government totalitarian control, it is mob totalitarian control. It functions like the Cultural Revolutiion in which you can now get "denounced" to your local Correctness Board, but instead of the Chi Coms putting in the stocks, its a mixed mob of race hustlers, uber PCers, the LIVs who follow the MSM and most of the rest who are just too cowed by the first three to avoid being swept up in it. The lack of a central distinction between what is intended to be public conduct and a private conversation in coverage of this thing is astounding to me, and truly depresses me as to where we have gone a society.

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 29, 2014 12:13 PM (HEo6y)

589 As far as Sterling's chances go, he's a lawyer, notoriously litigious, and will be tenacious in fighting for control of his team back.

I can see him going after every avenue possible to cost the NBA a lot of money and face over this. He may not win but he'll sure go out of his way to make the NBA suffer.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 29, 2014 04:04 PM (APuJ7)

 

 

And this is a major reason why I am not too worked up about this. He can make life for everyone involved with the NBA a living nightmare.  It may give him a reason to live - the burning, yearning, deep inside for vengeance.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Warmth of Spring Grow your Rage at the Outrage Outlet at April 29, 2014 12:13 PM (hLRSq)

590 Of course I understand the difference. What lesser action do you think they should've taken?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 04:04 PM (SY2Kh)


A fine, suspension, and community service would have sufficed.  Taking his business away goes over the top.  He's owned the team for over 30 years. 

Posted by: Cory at April 29, 2014 12:14 PM (wgYuH)

591 @588 It depends. If your boss fired you because you insulted him, or for any damn reason, that's one thing. But if using the "filty c*cksucker" epithet in a private conversation caused you to be "outed" as a "ghey hater" and pilloried in the press as a ghey hater and bigot, I'd say that you did not live in a remotely free society.

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 29, 2014 12:16 PM (HEo6y)

592 Sterling said I don't want you to bring black people to the games. Not racist merely his opinion and want.

Now if Sterling had said I don't want you to bring ni??ers to the games. That would be racist.

Just my guess as the laws of the time-space-racism continuum get pretty complex around 2009.  Bask in the post racial paradise Obama and the fascist progressives have brought forth to our shores.

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 29, 2014 12:18 PM (WGm5T)

593

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 29, 2014 04:13 PM (HEo6y)

 

The public - or "the mob" as many here have called them - can decide to boycott his particular entertainment.  The NBA does not want a boycott, so the NBA is acting in what they perceive as their best business interests.  Since I support the right of the public to undertake boycotts and the right of businesses to take steps to prevent potential boycotts my outrage meter is not pegging at all.

 

What can the NBA legally do?  Can they force him to sell?  Beats me - I haven't read the contracts that Sterling and the NBA entered into.  The NBA may have every legal right to do what it is doing with Sterling agreeing to that.  This is another reason why my outrage meter is not pegging at all - in fact it is barely moving.

 

This is a dumb sordid tale and no one comes out looking good, but considering that (with the exception of the mistress*) all of the players are sophisticated well-funded business interests I am not caring too much at all.

 

*Better get yourself a good lawyer, lady, because you are going to be engaging in protacted legal proceedings for a long, long time.  I hope that moment was worth the months of heck you are going to go through.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Warmth of Spring Grow your Rage at the Outrage Outlet at April 29, 2014 12:23 PM (hLRSq)

594 Sterling said I don't want you to bring black people to the games. Not racist merely his opinion and want. On what planet is that not racist?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 12:28 PM (SY2Kh)

595 Now the question is what does Sterling do?   Can they physically remove him if he shows up tonight? 

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 12:28 PM (3AsfL)

596 Probably the best outcome. $ 2.5 million fine for a guy worth $ 1.8 billion...rounding error. Lifetime ban, he is 81, so how painful is that.
NBA and other owners don't want this distracting from the playoffs.
So he keep the team, can pass it on to his son in law, does not have to sell it (so far as we know).
Magic is happy, Jordan is happy, unhappy is MSDNC, CNN and the leftist chattering classes who are already dreaming of re-educations camps for old white guys.  They would give this up, they will beat it to death. 
Ironic that famous people lost the power of privacy a long time ago.
But again, lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.
We may have free speech, just don't pretend that consequences don't exist.
We now have prohibited thought, but only for certain people.
Rule 1, If you are white never disparage blacks in any way, at any time. 
Rule # 2, If you are white never disparage any other protected class of people,
Rule # 3, if you are non white it's ok to disparage anyone, you have a free pass.
 


Posted by: standfast24 at April 29, 2014 12:29 PM (wx/BY)

597 Let me see if I can break this down. The "made public" part was without his knowledge or consent. So, this is not a situation in which the individual was intending to make a public statement, to which one could presumably expect a public response. The fact remains that it was made public and there is a public response. From the perspective of the NBA it's irrelevant how it was made public. They're a business, and they have a responsibility to do what is in their best interests.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 12:33 PM (SY2Kh)

598 A private conversation that was made public, resulting in a public outcry that the NBA can't reasonably ignore without a public backlash that would cost them financially. Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 03:45 PM (SY2Kh) There's a huge difference between ignoring Sterling's comments and banning him for life which effectively takes control of his business away permanently. You understand this, right? Posted by: Mætenloch 'Psycho' Soyer at April 29, 2014 03:50 PM (pAlYe) This.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 12:34 PM (2AqeI)

599 "which effectively takes control of his business away permanently."

He owns a franchise which is now being taken away because he damaged the brand.  McDonald's or Pizza Hut would do the same thing given the publicity.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 29, 2014 12:39 PM (3AsfL)

600 I've thought all along that what he was pissed about was her sleeping around and flaunting it. He's paying her as his archivist/escort. I think he didn't like her sleeping with black men and then rubbing it in his face. He did actually mention the sleeping with part at one point. He just didn't seem to be ranting that hard. He seemed mad but not drunk Mel Gibson frothing. Under that theory: could it particularly gall him that they were black? Sure. Is that open minded? No but it's kind of scary that a private conversation was recorded and now he's banned from basketball. I'm sure there is plenty of things said privately that could be used against anyone. It would have been nice to known a lot more context about this before the mob lit the torches. On the other hand: if the NBA is a corporation and the owners are board members then they have the right to vote him off the board if he's hurting revenue. He still gets his stock (the team) but he no longer is an officer of the company. I wonder what other team owners think of that paradigm shift though.

Posted by: bestie21 at April 29, 2014 12:41 PM (Gt5Sg)

601 The fact remains that it was made public and there is a public response. From the perspective of the NBA it's irrelevant how it was made public. They're a business, and they have a responsibility to do what is in their best interests. Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 29, 2014 04:33 PM (SY2Kh) The NBA is a 3rd party to the release of the tapes. The tapes were not made for, by or against them, so there is no way that they are a guilty party to the release of the tapes. So, they are in their rights to protect their business from the reprecussions of the tapes being released. The release of the tapes is a legal matter between the state, the whore, and Sterling.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 29, 2014 12:43 PM (HxSXm)

602 I guess if Sterling gets fined, he can pay for it with the proceeds from all the team players who will be returning their millions in soiled contract money. That's happening, right?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2014 12:46 PM (1CroS)

603 590 Cory at April 29, 2014 04:12 PM (wgYuH) 594 NYC Parent at April 29, 2014 04:16 PM (HEo6y) I mispunctuated; let me try again. At 471, Hollowpoint said this: "If my boss overhears me referring to him as a filthy cocksucker and badmouthing the company, would it be an egregious violation of American principles if he fired me over my speech?" AT 588, I tried to make the point that Hollowpoint's analogy is inapt: "If an acquaintance taped you saying that, and then handed the tape to the media, we might be looking at an analogy." Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 04:06 PM (2AqeI) "Might" be--but not worth pursuing.

Posted by: m at April 29, 2014 12:52 PM (2AqeI)

604 They fined the dude 2.5 million bucks, then threw him out of the league. Why would he pay? He's not even part of the club any longer.
What I'm wondering is why after all this time only now does this come out and happen? He's been a jerk so long Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was amazed people only now figured it out.
Meanwhile the Clippers are in the post season but not the Lakers... rivalry... sudden revelation that hurts the Clippers...hmm.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2014 12:54 PM (zfY+H)

605 I finally listened to the audio last night and his girl friend was putting more racist spin on his words than he actually said.

From what I gathered from the audio
1.  His girl friend is allowed to have sex with a lot of black dudes
2.  Sterling is fine with this cuz he is old and cant get it up anyway
3.  Part of the deal is that she is discrete about it
4.  She is not discrete about it.
5.  Sterling uses the term "black people" to mean the "guys you are having sex with"
6.  The conversation barely makes sense because she is trying so hard to get him to say something racist
7.  She and some 3rd party are clearly setting him up.  Otherwise they wouldn't be recording it in the first place.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 29, 2014 01:03 PM (z+4T3)

606 If I were his age and had his money, I'd donate the team to La Raza and then sit back and enjoy the show.

Posted by: gadem at April 29, 2014 01:11 PM (BXc2l)

607 The entire NBA needs affirmative action. Blacks are what, 12% of the US population? That's 1 dude per squad of 10. For the record, Labor Strikes have killed my desire to give a shit about pro sports. I am ready to give up Formula 1 due to the fucking v-6 noise.

Posted by: nip at April 29, 2014 01:12 PM (jI23+)

608 This isn't about Sterling. What he said is irrelevant. This is all about the power of the P.C. crowd to silence dissent.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 29, 2014 01:16 PM (CTCNK)

609 Sterling's a Democrat so I don't care what happens to *him*, but to the larger issue, I choked on my tea when I read this. #1, they haven't even proved it's him on the recording, afaik. #2, his comments were likely taken out of context (The Conservative Treehouse has been researching this story and thinks he was more saying to the gf "you don't HAVE to do what you're doing w/blacks to get back at me" more than just being racist; plus we all know that what he said about Magic was because Magic's from a rival team, not because he's black), and #3 they act like he murdered someone! Wow, talk about "thought police". He wasn't acting on his alleged "racism" he was talking in private convo w/his gf. What a ridiculous over-reaction from the NBA. If I was a fan, I'd boycott.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 29, 2014 01:22 PM (KL49F)

610 100 Who will dare to ask Magic Johnson if he set this up? Posted by: --- He probably didn't act alone. Must have had aids. Posted by: Dang at April 29, 2014 02:33 PM (MNq6o) Give this man a rimshot.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at April 29, 2014 01:27 PM (7aJyE)

611

"It may not be racial, but I doubt anyone on Earth can claim they've never made an un-pc remark to someone while angry."

 

Think about this and then think about where all this could eventually lead. Lots of penumbras out there. 

Posted by: RM at April 29, 2014 01:32 PM (fRppw)

612

This isn't about what Sterling said.   What he said was fairly innocuous frankly... please don't post Instagram pictures of you and Magic Johnson.   But the whore/mistress says she has 100 more hours of recordings.   This is about the NBA cutting Sterling loose before the shit really hits the fan.  

 

Oh, and did anyone else notice that Magic Johnson figures on both sides of the story... getting his picture taken being friendly with the whore/mistress and also lining up to buy the Clippers from Sterling at a fire sale price?   A more cynical person might smell a scam.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at April 29, 2014 01:33 PM (qHCyt)

613 Ol Magic knows how to lob a turd in the punch bowl. Of course Bill Plaschke of the Los Angeles Times sports desk is salivating over the idea of the NBA transferring Chris Paul and Blake Griffin to the Los Angeles Losers (aka "Lakers") where Paul and Griffin could play with Kobe Bryant. Plaschke seems to have forgotten Kobe's little "pecker dillo" of raping a young hotel maid in Colorado while he was there for "rehab" of his knee. Kobe needs to rehab his character just as much as Donald Sterling needs a character rehab. Neither of course will get it.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 29, 2014 01:41 PM (wdHk6)

614 And come to think of it, that Kobe "pecker dillo" in Colorado cost him about as much as V. Stifiano has cost Sterling so far. He gave her $2 million in real property, a Ferrari, 2 Bentleys, a Range Rover and cash; now he's paid a $2.5 million fine. Kobe gave his wife $4 million in jewelry to pay for his Colorado escapade---and like V Stifiano dumping Sterling, Vanessa Bryant has dumped Kobe. Come to think of it, those two jerks have a lot in common.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 29, 2014 01:44 PM (wdHk6)

615 As much as I don't want to side with a Democrat like Sterling, the 1st Amendment trumps party affiliation. It sounds like he's planning to sue the NBA and I'll be rooting for him.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at April 29, 2014 01:55 PM (KL49F)

616 @606 Yes I see. Sorry about that. Was referring to the source you were quoting.

Posted by: NYC Parent at April 29, 2014 02:06 PM (HEo6y)

617
The essay by Kareem Abdul-Jabar that linked on the side pretty much says it all: Sterling is a lowlife who deserves what he's getting; and the person who recorded and released a private conversation deserves to go to prison.

Posted by: Brown Line at April 29, 2014 02:06 PM (VrNoa)

618 This is all awesome and wutnot, but all of you lovable "morons" have helped create the atmosphere that led to this, and other decisions, and decisions yet to transpire. That's right, outraged ones. Every time you were ever presented with simple questions about black dysfunction, and provable facts about same, you screamed "RAYCISS!!" at the top of your lungs, just like all the good little Libtards you claim to loath. You bathe in the wisdom of the founding fathers, unless said wisdom pertains to their actual thoughts about the negro. Then, they become old, white raycists, right? This country is where it is now, a country where the racial thought police demand you bow and scrape before all things black, not because of Liberals, but because all of you neocons refused to face reality and fight back. You ceded so much ground, we have none left to stand on. So before you all wonder "how could this happen??", look in the mirror. YOU did this, and are as responsible as Al, and Jesse, and Barry, and Eric. You actively fought for their side. You won...

Posted by: Sweep the leg at April 29, 2014 03:14 PM (3CHNi)

619 the hooker gets her revenge. The NBA is a ship of Tools.

Posted by: Shaftoe at April 29, 2014 04:03 PM (TSkaq)

620 I'll never watch another NBA game again. We are living in a leftist-fascist society.

Posted by: Savage Stewart at April 29, 2014 06:29 PM (6j8ke)

621 The lifetime ban will go nicely with his two NAACP Lifetime Achievment Awards

Posted by: Don at April 29, 2014 08:16 PM (eUJUf)

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