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January 10, 2014

Even MSNBC Is Shocked By How "Ugly" and "Awful" and "Horrific" the December Jobs Creation Figure Is
— Ace

Video at Hot Air. Joe Scarborough's Chirpy Parrot isn't so chirpy over the mere 74,000 jobs created in December.

Allah links this Sean Davis article. As you know, the unemployment rate is falling only because the number of people seeking work is falling faster. All of the "improvements" in the unemployment rate are due to discouraged workers leaving the workforce entirely.

Davis muses: What would the unemployment rate be if the labor participation rate (the fraction of people actively seeking work, or actually working) remained at the same level as it had been in June, 2009 (five months into Obama's term, and when the recession supposedly officially ended).

The results are pretty shocking -- if you haven't been paying any attention whatsoever.

Yes, there has been absolutely no actual improvement in the employment situation, except for the millions who have just given up and now subsist on the Federal dime.

Obama will of course spin this disastrous jobs creation number as due to the 16-day shutdown of 17% of the federal workforce in October.

How does that explain the five years of grueling, neverending unemployment that Sean Davis documents?

Posted by: Ace at 11:42 AM | Comments (284)
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1 Hydrogen Barackcide. Kills Jobs on contact.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 10, 2014 11:43 AM (32Ze2)

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 11:43 AM (PYAXX)

3 Drops mic, exits stage left......

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 10, 2014 11:44 AM (32Ze2)

4 Davis muses: What would the unemployment rate be if the labor participation rate (the fraction of people actively seeking work, or actually working) remained at the same level as it had been when Obama was sworn into office, January 2009. Correction, ace. He uses June (not January) 2009. Because that's the "technical" end of the Recession- that is, the point when recovery should have begun.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 11:44 AM (PYAXX)

5 I'm sure this will be a prime talking point in his SOTU address, right after he disses the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Posted by: joncelli at January 10, 2014 11:45 AM (RD7QR)

6 You're all RACIST because you don't want to work for a black man!

Posted by: Ghwynne Eternal Moonshayde at January 10, 2014 11:45 AM (1Zoh4)

7 Ah. I see you already fixed it. Nevermind then.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 11:45 AM (PYAXX)

8 >>>Correction, ace. He uses June (not January) 2009. Because that's the "technical" end of the Recession- that is, the point when recovery should have begun. thanks, I caught that a few minutes ago.

Posted by: ace at January 10, 2014 11:45 AM (/FnUH)

9 Official 6.7% unemployment, yet 67% of the population doesn't have a job. Methinks someone at BLS forgot to move the decimal.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 10, 2014 11:45 AM (W7ffl)

10 The only industry experiencing growth are dog-whistle makers.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at January 10, 2014 11:45 AM (l2max)

>>Obama will of course spin this disastrous jobs creation number as due to the 16-day shutdown of 17% of the federal workforce in October.

.They already blamed it on the Cold......Uh, I mean Global Warming.

Posted by: Registered Voter at January 10, 2014 11:46 AM (nUbHY)

12 yeah I just saw that "J 2009," Allen, and my brain made up a little story to fill in the gaps.

Posted by: ace at January 10, 2014 11:46 AM (/FnUH)

13 The part I haven't seen considered is:

How much of this is DIRECTLY doctors, nurses, and other associated medical personnel retiring, closing, merging, etc.?

Because there were a fair number of doctors on the "I'll retire first" podium earlier on.

Posted by: Al at January 10, 2014 11:46 AM (9ynpo)

14 You know who this helps? Medicaid.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2014 11:47 AM (g1DWB)

15 Just in time to prepare for recovery summer!!!!

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 10, 2014 11:47 AM (BXLPR)

16 Is there even an appropriate qualifier for just how fucked we are when you can only get 74k jobs added in December??

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 10, 2014 11:47 AM (U1Tts)

17 The economy is poised to remain awful for as long as I am president.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 10, 2014 11:48 AM (/FnUH)

18 Of course they are. Just like CNN is. How else are you going to get that UI extension bill passed? Other than Harry Ried's dirty tricks and willing GOPe?

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 10, 2014 11:48 AM (LSJmV)

19 Obama has more than decimated our work force. Think about that.

Posted by: Lauren at January 10, 2014 11:49 AM (hFL/3)

20 Well, it's always interesting to see what spin they'll use. Sometimes it's straight up opposite of the truth, sometimes it's heavily nuanced. We'll see.

Posted by: seems legit at January 10, 2014 11:49 AM (A98Xu)

21 And even those numbers are a lie because they depend on the DOL numbers to be accurate. This adm can not release anything remotely close to the truth. The real UR is 20%+

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 10, 2014 11:49 AM (T2V/1)

22 Between the hits in defense and medicine, I'm amazed the numbers are even that good.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at January 10, 2014 11:49 AM (XiVKO)

23 We accidentally slipped and stepped in some facts.

Eeewww.

Posted by: MSNBC [/i] [/b] at January 10, 2014 11:49 AM (5ikDv)

24 >>>Is there even an appropriate qualifier for just how fucked we are when you can only get 74k jobs added in December?? What Burn the Witch refers to, I think, is the large number of jobs added in December to handle Christmas shopping and deliveries. However, BtW, I believe these figures are "seasonally adjusted" -- i think they smooth out the expected spikes from short-term Christmas hiring.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 10, 2014 11:49 AM (/FnUH)

25 Democrats should voluntarily give up their jobs, if they have them, so that others ("who didn't vote for this shit!') can work as penance for forcing this economy on the rest of us,

Posted by: MTF at January 10, 2014 11:49 AM (F58x4)

26 I guess this is how you build an economy from the bottom up. Sigh...

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 10, 2014 11:50 AM (LSJmV)

27 Imagine if the mandate for employers wasn't pushed back until 2015...

Posted by: seems legit at January 10, 2014 11:50 AM (A98Xu)

28 I hope Barry got plenty of rest on his 17 day tax payer paid luxury holiday in Hawaii so he can pivot on jobs.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2014 11:50 AM (g1DWB)

29 Add in all college grads that didn't get jobs in the first place.

Posted by: AMDG at January 10, 2014 11:50 AM (t7OO0)

30 Maybe it's time I put my LASER FOCUS on jobs.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Posted by: The JEF at January 10, 2014 11:50 AM (nZ561)

31 The good news about these "unexpected" job numbers is that the Fed won't slow down printing the money! Yeah inflation.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 10, 2014 11:50 AM (BXLPR)

32 Been looking for a job- no matter how awful- since 2007 or 2008. They aren't there, damn it.

Posted by: backhoe at January 10, 2014 11:50 AM (ULH4o)

33
For those of you who haven't read Kevin Williamson's piece on the Big White Ghetto over at NR, that's a depressing bookend to this.

Fifty years worth of the "War On Poverty", which started, let us recall, in Appalachia. And the end state of that? Not only is Appalachia not fixed, and is worse off than before, but a mindset of Appalachian dependence and hopelessness has been slowly expanding to encompass more and more of the country.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (gqT4g)

34 A piddly 10 or 11%.

Take a look at me - I'm approaching 20%

Posted by: U6 Unemployment Figure at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (UhXzR)

35 Even MSNBC Is Shocked By How "Ugly" and "Awful" and "Horrific" the December Jobs Creation Figure Is Reality proves just how hard it is to polish a turd.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (CRyse)

36 The economy is roaring. So much so that we have to pass extension on the UE benefits. The cognitive dissonance SHOULD have heads exploding inside the beltway.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (32Ze2)

37 Ugly!
I wonder what the real numbers look like...

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (POpqt)

38
Hey, any guesses as how SNL will make 'funny' of Christie's presser?

My guess: he's eating donuts while he speaks.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (gYIst)

39 I'm getting plenty of 'jobs.

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (/FnUH)

40 @28 JackStraw

Is pivoting "on" jobs like grinding out a cigarette with your toe?

Posted by: Clownf*cker at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (XiVKO)

Gotta make a move to a town that's right for me
Town to keep me movin', keep me groovin' with some energy

Well, I talk about it, talk about it
Talk about it, talk about it

Won't you take me to Bartertown?

Posted by: Lipps Inc at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (nELVU)

42 MOAR STIMULUS!!!

Posted by: Paul Krugman at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (nsg2T)

43 Fundamental change.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (Aif/5)

44 But the good news? Michelle got to spend some extra time in Hawaii after the original 17 day vacation. So there is that.

Posted by: seems legit at January 10, 2014 11:51 AM (A98Xu)

45 I saw Ugly, Awful, and Horrific open for Earth Wind & Fire in '92.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (LSJmV)

46 How much of this is DIRECTLY doctors, nurses, and other associated medical personnel retiring, closing, merging, etc.?

Because there were a fair number of doctors on the "I'll retire first" podium earlier on.
Posted by: Al
.............
You can probably find that here on the BLS website.. the link is to today's report.

http://tinyurl.com/2qps7

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (f9c2L)

47 jeebus pixie

Posted by: Lipps Inc at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (nELVU)

48 Kind of good news, in the sense that if they were saying "this is GREAT" I'd expect The Cliff to be real fkg close.

Posted by: Bigby's Squeegee Hands at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (3ZtZW)

49 Obviously, the solution to this is extending unemployment benefits.

Posted by: --- at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (ksJYU)

50 #13

The statistic you're looking for is actually referenced in the labor report in question:

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Health care employment changed little in December (-6,000). Employment gains in the industry averaged 17,000 per month in 2013, compared with an average monthly gain of 27,000 in 2012.
===

But to answer directly, there are about 830,000 active physicians in the USA. Even if we assume that fully 10% of them decided to quit practice in the last year, that's still just a tiny blip compared to the 10.4 million unemployed adults the Dept of Labor cites in its most recent report.

Posted by: looking closely at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (6Q9g2)

51 Hiiiiiiway toooo the promise zone.

Posted by: I promise at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (QM5S2)

52 Just like he promised... no more unfair, unpredictable cycles of ups and downs...

Posted by: Mega at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (hHFOx)

53 Can someone break out the unemployment in DC and NoVa?

Posted by: AMDG at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (t7OO0)

54 They have no interest in make it easier to get a job. Only in making it less painful to survive without one.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 11:52 AM (ZPrif)

55 Shaka, when the figures fell.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 10, 2014 11:53 AM (V4CBV)

56 What Burn the Witch refers to, I think, is the large number of jobs added in December to handle Christmas shopping and deliveries. However, BtW, I believe these figures are "seasonally adjusted" -- i think they smooth out the expected spikes from short-term Christmas hiring. Smoothed out with a road grader.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2014 11:53 AM (CRyse)

57 Are you kidding me? What these numbers show is that a lot of people have found the courage to quit their jobs and finally pursue their dream of being an artist, thanks to Obamacare.

Also, spending more on unemployment boost the economy.

Win-win!!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 10, 2014 11:53 AM (POpqt)

58 Call it the "F" curve of despair.

Posted by: PizzaCatAbides at January 10, 2014 11:53 AM (fsLdt)

59 It is easier to dominate someone who doesn't have a job of their own, hence Obama is *intentionally* devastating the work force.

As Glen Reynolds says, "They will turn us all into beggars because they are easier to please"

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2014 11:53 AM (P3U0f)

60 Yes, there has been absolutely no actual improvement in the employment situation, except for the millions who have just given up and now subsist on the Federal dime ------------------------------- Why would millions of people just stop working? Do they hate this black president that much?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2014 11:53 AM (CJjw5)

61 Maybe Boehner should pass a law that simply states 'People that are not working are defined as unemployed, whether searching or not.' so we can get back to apples -apples unemployment numbers that can be compared with, say , the Carter years.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 10, 2014 11:54 AM (9Bdcz)

62 I explained in the morning thread Ace...

Obamanomics is predicated on the idea that losing over a million people's employment last calender is a roaring recovery "poised for growth."

The problem is the economy has been roaring for 5 fucking years and is still "poised"...

we're bleeding to death.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 10, 2014 11:54 AM (TE35l)

63 The economy has been shit ever since he hit the job running. And why is that? The typical Demo-commie answer for everything. FDR methods of tax and spend, but add the new thing of regulating every buisness in the country into bankruptcy. And the fact that almost all of his spending has gone into the welfare and UE sinkhole that not only doesn't produce any jobs, it kills them.

And in the what-if game if this was the economy of a Republican President the MFM would be screaming. Just look at the headlines for the Bush economy on how bad it was with 5% UE and no lies.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 10, 2014 11:54 AM (T2V/1)

64 >>Is pivoting "on" jobs like grinding out a cigarette with your toe? Considering the results, I'd say that is a perfect analogy.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2014 11:54 AM (g1DWB)

65 Even MSNBC Is Shocked By How "Ugly" and "Awful" and "Horrific" the . . . I thought this was going to be about that "Girls" t.v. show.

Posted by: m at January 10, 2014 11:55 AM (omrQI)

66 However, BtW, I believe these figures are "seasonally adjusted" -- i think they smooth out the expected spikes from short-term Christmas hiring. Posted by: Barack Obama at January 10, 2014 03:49 PM (/FnUH) Those numbers are seasoned very well. In a couple of months, they'll be seasoning those numbers right back down like always and the media won't report it like always.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 10, 2014 11:55 AM (U1Tts)

67 Boy, the continuing welfare extensions have produced MILLIONS of jobs. Keep it up DC.

Posted by: seems legit at January 10, 2014 11:55 AM (A98Xu)

68 Unemployment blows. Jobs blow too.

Posted by: Rolling Stones Editor at January 10, 2014 11:55 AM (Aif/5)

69
If I were doing a skit on Christie's presser, I'd have NJ thugs quietly remove the less agreeable journalists as the presser went on.

But that's me, and that'd be funny. So don't expect to see it.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2014 11:55 AM (gYIst)

70 Obama will of course spin this disastrous jobs creation number as due to the 16-day shutdown of 17% of the federal workforce in October. To believe that, you would have to be so galactically clueless that, ...... Oh, fucking never mind.... *cracks 6th beer* Time to check on the drywall finishing.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at January 10, 2014 11:55 AM (2R/Fl)

71 What these numbers show is that a lot of people have found the courage to quit their jobs and finally pursue their dream of being ~~an artist~~ Skyrim expert, thanks to Obamacare.

FTFY

More and more I wonder why the hell I wake up in the morning and go to work.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2014 11:55 AM (P3U0f)

@61Maybe Boehner should pass a law that simply states 'People that are not working are defined as unemployed, whether searching or not.' so we can get back to apples -apples unemployment numbers that can be compared with, say , the Carter years.

-------------------

Because stay-at-home moms would get annoyed.

Posted by: junior at January 10, 2014 11:55 AM (UWFpX)

73 When do we get to the chapter when wasting 6 trillion to put 100 million out of work becomes a capital offense?

Posted by: grognard at January 10, 2014 11:55 AM (/29Nl)

74 I'm on SSDI, Food stamps, and medicaid, what do I care.

Posted by: H.J. Smith at January 10, 2014 11:56 AM (Jv6Qj)

75 Under Bush, etc. he MSM would deconstruct the seasonal employment numbers to make them seem abysmal despite the uptick . Never hear that anymore.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 10, 2014 11:56 AM (ZshNr)

76 We are becoming Europe. We are building a truly permanent underclass. A growing class of useless, unemployable who survive at the bare minimum by the graciousness of the State. And just like Europe, this permanent unemployable underclass is financially ruinous. And just like Europe, one solution will be the State pushing euthanasia to relive itself of the useless unproductives.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 11:56 AM (ZPrif)

77 You can all thank me for being so out of work for so long, seeing as an old white man is essentially unemployable in this country these days. Denouncing myself for recently getting some work, less than 40 hours a month, and hey, at what will be the new minimum wage! And feeling like Edward G Robinson in Soylent Green, looking to Go Home... oooh purty colors

Posted by: OK, thanks, bye at January 10, 2014 11:56 AM (RPDkq)

78 Your move, senator Cruz.

Posted by: Mr. Powerstroke Super Duty 4X4 King Ranch Edition at January 10, 2014 11:56 AM (LSJmV)

79 More and more I wonder why the hell I wake up in the morning and go to work.

Every fucking day.

And I can't even get Timbits on the way in.

Posted by: HR at January 10, 2014 11:56 AM (ZKzrr)

80 I just hope there's more we can do for Michelle.

Posted by: seems legit at January 10, 2014 11:56 AM (A98Xu)

81 Real unemployment is around 15% Some demos its 35%. I think we know what fixes this..... Comprehensive immigration reform.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 10, 2014 11:56 AM (eMP2S)

82 My Aunt in Connecticut says this jobs report is just fine and all criticism of it and Obama is racist. Also, to the extent that job growth is not where it should be, she says it's the result of a conspiracy among white male Republican business owners. Who are racists. Also, she believes we invaded Afghanistan to steal it's oil. She's a lawyer!

Posted by: she's a lawyer! at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (yhJhK)

83 Because we have a huge service part of the economy this is worse than people think. Even if you assume people dropping out of the labor force are retiring (generous to say the last) they'll still cut back spending over what they would have when they had work. And so the "Recovery" gets slower and slower (and since it's not a recovery, things get worse and worse.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (GaqMa)

84
As far as this goes, This Is The New Normal.

Since we had 0 opposition to obama in the last 5 years, Dumb People have no reason to think this is a bad economy.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (gYIst)

What about the Polar Vortex? That had to cost about twenty bazillion jobs.

Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (aA2hG)

86 Mika Boobinski, please report to the camps.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (7ObY1)

87 *is typing on her restored, fixed computer*
**hates having to reload all this software**

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (GrtrJ)

88 Why would millions of people just stop working? Do they hate this black president that much? Nah, the Grand Moff Obama blew them up.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (U1Tts)

89 78 Mr. Powerstroke Super Duty 4X4 King Ranch Edition at January 10, 2014 03:56 PM (LSJmV)

I want the extra transmission coolers installed eh

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (TE35l)

90 My freinds, this actually supports our bi-partisan plan for comprehensive immigration control. Bringing millions of undocumented Americans into the country, out of the shadows and into the job market means MORE competition, higher wages, and MORE business! All of these new Americans will need to eat, stay clothed, send their kids to school, and get healthcare = increases in business and expansion of state and federal institutions.

All of you tea party hobbits should just surrender now, OK?

Posted by: John "gang of N" McCain at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (POpqt)

91 Been looking for a job- no matter how awful- since 2007 or 2008. They aren't there, damn it.
___
You are welcome!

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 10, 2014 11:57 AM (P3U0f)

92 Lots of people paying for gas, beer, and smokes with pocket change. Lots.

Posted by: mrp at January 10, 2014 11:58 AM (HjPtV)

93 I'd also like to see the split between full- and part-time jobs. Of the newly (re)employed, what percentage are less than 30hr/week?

The UE rate is understated and will be even more understated as ObamaCare continues its rampage.

So, so fckued.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 10, 2014 11:58 AM (eHIJJ)

94 Surely there's some reason this dismal report means we have to raise the minimum wage. I can't wait to hear the Mobius logic these dipshits'll come out with and even pretend to believe.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 10, 2014 11:58 AM (r5w1L)

95 Been looking for a job- no matter how awful- since 2007 or 2008. They aren't there, damn it.

Have you tried North Dakota?

Posted by: HR at January 10, 2014 11:58 AM (ZKzrr)

96 So Barky is a liar even by his bullshit "jobs created or saved". BTW, recovery.gov is apparently still wasting bandwidth if anyone wants to click over for a laugh.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at January 10, 2014 11:58 AM (nsg2T)

97 Also, she believes we invaded Afghanistan to steal it's oil
***
Gotta love the "reality based community"

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2014 11:59 AM (P3U0f)

98 57 Are you kidding me? What these numbers show is that a lot of people have found the courage to quit their jobs and finally pursue their dream of being an artist, thanks to Obamacare. Also, spending more on unemployment boost the economy. Win-win!! Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 10, 2014 03:53 PM (POpqt) I wanted to laugh. I did. But, the pain just reigned o'er me.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at January 10, 2014 11:59 AM (2R/Fl)

99 Of course, the radical eco-left are happy about this. Few things have been shown to destroy the fertility rate faster than keeping the young poor and unemployable as long as possible. Remember, the Eco-Religion of the ruling class doesn't want people in their 20s to have good jobs and good incomes -- cause then they'll make babies and that's the worst thing ever.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 11:59 AM (ZPrif)

100 I know, let's ask Chuck Schumer what we should do.

Posted by: seems legit at January 10, 2014 11:59 AM (A98Xu)

101 I havent heard much about the increase in people going on disability lately. Is that still ongoing?

Posted by: Lauren at January 10, 2014 11:59 AM (hFL/3)

102 Been looking for a job- no matter how awful- since 2007 or 2008. They aren't there, damn it. Posted by: backhoe at January 10, 2014 03:50 PM (ULH4o) As I noted, I'm probably going into part time freaking retail if I can find it just to keep the family afloat as it were. That's how bad it is. And I have a STEM degree. Keep that in mind. I'm not even looking in the field I'm getting my PhD in, I'm falling back on the STEM and it's hard to find work.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 10, 2014 11:59 AM (GaqMa)

103 BTW, recovery.gov is apparently still wasting bandwidth if anyone wants to click over for a laugh.

There's a link for reporting Fraud, Waste, and Abuse.

Anyone already getting audited who wants to report Mooch's post-vacation vacation?

Posted by: HR at January 10, 2014 11:59 AM (ZKzrr)

104 Posted by: she's a lawyer! at January 10, 2014 03:57 PM (yhJhK)

You need to tell her she's a fucking lunatic totalitarian, and that it's immoral to force people to hire workers and ruin themselves just to make her fucking secular messiah not look like the clusterfuck of a miserable failure that he is.

It's not the job of the private sector to spackle over the holes put in the wall by progressives. Maybe they should learn how to put something up instead of constantly destroying things.

Posted by: grognard at January 10, 2014 12:00 PM (/29Nl)

105 OK, my plan failed, but I am making another plan.
This time I will focus like a laser.

Posted by: Procrustes Autocratus Rex at January 10, 2014 12:00 PM (1/4XQ)

106 93 AnonymousDrivel at January 10, 2014 03:58 PM (eHIJJ)

50% of the 74,000 were part time...

under Bush this would have been drawn and quartered....

the cocksuckers are going to run on THIS economy and Obamacare as a positive AND they are likely to win back the House and Keep the Senate unless our leadership starts attacking this cocksucker.

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 10, 2014 12:00 PM (TE35l)

107 I forgot to add "BOOOSH's Fault!"

Posted by: backhoe at January 10, 2014 12:00 PM (ULH4o)

108 More and more I wonder why the hell I wake up in the morning and go to work. And after my girlfriend and I spend all day every day working our fucking asses off to support the Free Shit Army, hoping there will be enough crumbs left for us to survive on, there are those here who would deny us the right to smoke a doob on a Friday evening in the privacy of my own home with no minors present.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 10, 2014 12:00 PM (7ObY1)

109 If you think the Dem-Rep voter "enthusiasm" gap is big today, just wait until November.

Posted by: mrp at January 10, 2014 12:00 PM (HjPtV)

110 One silver lining, when none of us has a job income inequality will be a thing of the past.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2014 12:00 PM (g1DWB)

111 Of the physicians I know (and I know a great number) the "I'm outta here" crowd is mostly the ones in their 60s who are near retirement anyway. These guys were practicing in the "golden age" of medicine, and already have their retirement nests lined, and just don't want to deal with increasing hassle, paperwork, coupled with lower reimbursements. I actually know a few who have just shut down, and a few more who have announced that they will be doing so in the next year.

Its not just that they have to work twice as hard for less pay, but that they're spending more and more time on the phone and shuffling papers around, and less and less time actually seeing patients and making medical decisions.

Having never been around BEFORE medicine got screwed up, the young/new doctors are coming out of the gate dealing with these sort of hassles and don't know any better. They're being screwed; they just don't know it (yet).

The ones who are really hurting/complaining now being screwed are the mid-career physicians. These are the guys who are seeing workloads increased, reimbursement decreased (in many cases due to effectively arbitrary and unanticipatable medicare reimbursement cuts in their particular areas), who not only don't have the coin for retirement, but are seeing all their dreams of cushy retirement evaporate. (Yeah. . .join the club. . .I know).

Posted by: looking closely at January 10, 2014 12:01 PM (6Q9g2)

112 What do you call an economic recovery without an increase in employment levels? A bubble. And it's about to pop.

Posted by: elaine at January 10, 2014 12:02 PM (GNZ0/)

113 There's been lots of studies out there, being unemployed for more than 6 months makes people nearly unemployable. Employers just won't even look at their resumes. If the Ruling Class actually cared they would sharply limit immigration, legal and illegal, so as to create a labor shortage until companies were forced to hire these long term unemployed. But they don't care, so they won't.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 12:02 PM (ZPrif)

114

An unemployed guy walks into a bar and asks if they have any job openings.

The bartender says, " We have an opening for a glass wiper"

The unemployed guy says " I'm hard up so I'll take but that's one tough bathroom attendants job.

Posted by: polynikes at January 10, 2014 12:02 PM (m2CN7)

115

An unemployed guy walks into a bar and asks if they have any job openings.

The bartender says, " We have an opening for a glass wiper"

The unemployed guy says " I'm hard up so I'll take but that's one tough bathroom attendants job.

Posted by: polynikes at January 10, 2014 12:02 PM (m2CN7)

116 But to answer directly, there are about 830,000 active physicians in the USA. Even if we assume that fully 10% of them decided to quit practice in the last year, that's still just a tiny blip compared to the 10.4 million unemployed adults the Dept of Labor cites in its most recent report. Posted by: looking closely at January 10, 2014 03:52 PM (6Q9g2) If 10% of doctors have left the industry, that means about 30 million Americans have lost their doctor that they could keep. Thanks Uncle Barky!!!

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 10, 2014 12:03 PM (BXLPR)

117 A little anecdotal thing, yesterday I stopped in the local quicky store on the way home to get a loaf of bread. While I was waiting at the counter to pay for it the manager of the store yelled out of the back office if the clerk could work tomorrow (today).

When the clerk said yes he said "wait I have to check the hours below 30".

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 10, 2014 12:03 PM (T2V/1)

118 It wasn't that good to post twice.

Posted by: polynikes at January 10, 2014 12:03 PM (m2CN7)

119 So is the Stimulus still poised to bring this economy roaring back to life?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 10, 2014 12:03 PM (ZqlGu)

120 The BLS also made big changes last July 1 to how GDP is calculated. That's why that 3q GDP looked so awesome at 4.1 percent

Posted by: kbdabear at January 10, 2014 12:04 PM (aTXUx)

121 backhoe: "Been looking for a job- no matter how awful- since 2007 or 2008. They aren't there, damn it."

I figure from the name that you may work construction?

Even with the current social media tech boom (a completely irrational bubble BTW) in the SF Bay Area, this area is flat on its ass so far as actually building significant new stuff.

It's become so hard to do new private construction in Commiefornia with the colossal regulatory and legal burdens that really big public works are the last thing going, but even that stuff is fizzling out.

Not least because with liberals monolithically in charge, the available pot of money gets divided between fewer and fewer inefficiently conceived projects. The pork is more concentrated, but that doesn't make for more total pork to go round.

So the "Brown Streak" high speed rail languishes in the courts due to its wildly unrealistic finances and inability to draw private capital, while the only big new project getting going is SF's Chinatown Subway.

Which is great for Nancy Pelosi, because that's a project costing MORE THAN A BILLION DOLLARS A MILE (no shit) right in her home district, but it leaves dozens of other liberal legislators elsewhere in the state with a bare cupboard on infrastructure construction spending.

The states's heavy construction labor unions are beginning to get restive over this. The circumstantially appropriate response is to point at them, make rude gestures, and laugh your ass off. Sympathetically, of course.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 10, 2014 12:04 PM (gqT4g)

122 Welcome Back Carter.

Posted by: d_fitz at January 10, 2014 12:04 PM (OgScR)

123 Ya'll might want to get retuned into NumbersUSA (www.numbersusa.com). The government "reforms" being (re)constructed are moving along yet again out of the limelight. It's in our best interest to stay active and start pressuring our reps again because a government surge is coming.

If you think employment and wages are bad now, just wait until reform happens.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 10, 2014 12:04 PM (eHIJJ)

124 Good thing Obaaamacare frees all those artists and musicians up to unleash their creativity now that they don't have to worry about stupid things like "holding a job to pay tor health insurance" anymore.

Gonna be a boom market in folk songs and murals to ensure we've a proper communist regime.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 10, 2014 12:04 PM (VjL9S)

125 112 What do you call an economic recovery without an increase in employment levels?

A bubble.

And it's about to pop.

Posted by: elaine at January 10, 2014 04:02 PM (GNZ0/)

No you call it "no recovery" because it is a lie.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 10, 2014 12:04 PM (T2V/1)

126
If the Ruling Class actually cared they would sharply limit immigration, legal and illegal, so as to create a labor shortage until companies were forced to hire these long term unemployed.
***
Getting serious about immigration enforcement would do more for "income inequality then anything Barky has proposed.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2014 12:04 PM (P3U0f)

127
Well yeah, back in 2010 obama's 'recovery' was called a JOB-LESS RECOVERY.

But it's more of a JOB-LOSS RECOVERY.

But the DJIA is hitting record highs! Woo hoo!
And the Real Estate sector is POISED for strong growth!!

/IAB

it's all bullshit

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2014 12:05 PM (gYIst)

128 >>It wasn't that good to post twice. It was a metaphor for people who have to work two jobs now.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 10, 2014 12:05 PM (SUKHu)

129 What's crazy is, so much of any growth is attributed to government workers/civil servants. Which does not help the nation.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: chili con carne at January 10, 2014 12:05 PM (IXrOn)

130 Due to Obama, the invisible hand is giving us the finger.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2014 12:05 PM (P1WNR)

131 And after my girlfriend and I spend all day every day working our fucking asses off to support the Free Shit Army, hoping there will be enough crumbs left for us to survive on, there are those here who would deny us the right to smoke a doob on a Friday evening in the privacy of my own home with no minors present. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 10, 2014 04:00 PM (7ObY1) ---------------------------------- That's right, and don't even think about diving for tuna or getting your dick sucked, because Jesus.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2014 12:05 PM (CJjw5)

132 Miss me yet????

Posted by: James from Plains at January 10, 2014 12:06 PM (32Ze2)

133 Obama will of course spin this disastrous jobs creation number as due to the 16-day shutdown of 17% of the federal workforce in October.

I take it that's the blip at the end of the red curve.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at January 10, 2014 12:06 PM (kqqGm)

134 We can stop this. We can send the President a message. With a united voice.

You , others just like you and me. Together.

Would you like to contribute 500 , 1000, or 5000 dollars today?

Remember , we can't do this without you. Or your money.

But mostly your money.

Posted by: doNotReplyto: Reince Priebus@GOP.gov[/i] [/b] at January 10, 2014 12:06 PM (5ikDv)

135 I read in the podcast thread of AtC's tale of woe at work with the nonexistent heat

Here's Kate Upton in fur and leather to keep her warm

http://tinyurl.com/qxdze3a

Posted by: kbdabear at January 10, 2014 12:06 PM (aTXUx)

136 Green jobs will save us!

Posted by: mrp at January 10, 2014 12:07 PM (HjPtV)

137
btw, what was the R response to these data?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2014 12:07 PM (gYIst)

138 Due to Obama, the invisible hand is giving us the finger.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2014 04:05 PM (P1WNR)

_______________________

Worse than that. The invisible had is squeezing out junk.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 10, 2014 12:07 PM (32Ze2)

139

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 10, 2014 04:00 PM (7ObY1)

more than crumbs or a doobie.

DOOBIE!!!

Posted by: polynikes at January 10, 2014 12:07 PM (m2CN7)

140 five months into Obama's term, and when the recession supposedly officially ended To be fair, we stopped receding then. Now we're stuck in "a new normal". Five years of a constancy of suck. Helluva job.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2014 12:07 PM (FcR7P)

141 16 Is there even an appropriate qualifier for just how fucked we are when you can only get 74k jobs added in December??
=======
How would you like to be the COO/CEO/CFO of any major retailer as the final December sales numbers are making their way to your desk?

Any of you stock nerds know when the next round of "earnings" reports for these guys are due?

heh.

Fuck you very much, 52%ers.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 10, 2014 12:07 PM (VjL9S)

142 Squeezing OUR junk.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (32Ze2)

143 I smoked like a buttload of choom back in the day, and look how effective I am.

Posted by: Procrustes Autocratus Rex at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (1/4XQ)

144 I am absolutely confident that the GOP will use this information to give Obama a major black eye and to put a feather in the republicans cap.

Posted by: Colonel Cathcart at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (B/3gr)

145 FUNEMPLOYMENT!

Remember that one. It died a quick death in the MFM when it was ridiculed.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (T2V/1)

146 Isn't it interesting that the Obama admin is essentially touting Despair... Because the Unemployment numbers they say are sooooo good.... are low due to despair...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (lZBBB)

147
And just like Europe, one solution will be the State pushing euthanasia to relive itself of the useless unproductives.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 03:56 PM (ZPrif)

Well, there's always Global Total War.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (TIIx5)

148 102? tsrblke? It was not this bad under Carter, FGS. Whole, empty shopping centers. Some never had a tenant. Not one. The counties around me are shutting new Fire Stations.

Real Estate offices shuttered and empty. "For sale" signs everywhere- and nothing is selling.

Posted by: backhoe at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (ULH4o)

149 Will this cause CHris Matthews to be even more droolly?

Posted by: YIKES1 at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (mETGQ)

150

@141 Any of you stock nerds know when the next round of "earnings" reports for these guys are due?

-----------------

iirc, it's all quarterly-based. So mid-April, I would imagine.

Posted by: junior at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (UWFpX)

151 The Ruling Class thinks this isn't a problem to be solved, just managed. Even libertarians like Tyler Cowen think this is the way of the future, read Average is Over. A large and growing minority will have no skills that anybody will consider worth paying for. Ever. They will be wards of the State for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 12:08 PM (ZPrif)

152 I forget, did Obama with the Nobel prize in economics as well as the Peace deal?

Posted by: seems legit at January 10, 2014 12:09 PM (A98Xu)

153 R response? Bwhahahaha Oh That is so funny

Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2014 12:09 PM (jRvom)

154 Obama will of course spin this disastrous jobs creation number as due to the 16-day shutdown of 17% of the federal workforce in October. By that measure, you would think a 17-day vacation would be ruinous.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2014 12:09 PM (FcR7P)

155 We've become a statistic. We are the ones. And, the last of a line that had it better than our parents...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: chili con carne at January 10, 2014 12:09 PM (IXrOn)

156 Chirpy parrot will just use this to justify welfare extension

Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2014 12:10 PM (jRvom)

157 I'm thinking we need another stimulus.
When in doubt, fix the infrastructure*!!!

*And by infrastructure, I mean unnecessary Lefty projects in Dem-controlled states. We'll get to crumbling bridges and more policemen used to sell the stimulus later; as in never.

Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at January 10, 2014 12:10 PM (POpqt)

158 In modern poverty you still get to have an opinion on Breaking Bad and say snarky shit on Twitter. So not all bad. Sure, there's no self-respect or family, but you get to watch the same TV shows as the Ruling Class.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 12:10 PM (ZPrif)

159 @137 Right.
You kinda expect a Socialist to be a Socialist, but 5+ years of 0 opposition to O?!?

Posted by: Procrustes Autocratus Rex at January 10, 2014 12:10 PM (1/4XQ)

160 Focused like a laser!

Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2014 12:11 PM (jRvom)

161 As others point out, this is even worse because of the "service economy." Where it gets YET WORSE is that those service jobs didn't disappear- they're not just sitting there unfilled. The services were still required, so other *countries* stepped in and filled them. Global Economy FTW! So those jobs aren't coming back. And our manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. And the Deems (thanks to whoever typoed that, I'm keeping it) now want $15/hr minimum wage.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 12:11 PM (PYAXX)

162 Green jobs will save us! Posted by: mrp at January 10, 2014 04:07 PM (HjPtV) ****** But it's killing us.

Posted by: Brids at January 10, 2014 12:11 PM (mETGQ)

163 I just hope our proletariat garb has a nice cut to it and our sandals are comfortable.

Posted by: seems legit at January 10, 2014 12:11 PM (A98Xu)

164 Pivot!!!!

Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2014 12:11 PM (jRvom)

165 #116

To be clear, I don't think 10% of doctors have quit/retired early at all. I just pulled that number out of my ass, just to show that even if it were true, it would barely make a ripple in the published unemployment numbers.

Its probably possible to come up with a reasonably good estimate of the number of MDs who have taken early retirement based on publically available historical State by State licensure number, but I'm not going to bother.

I'll just tell you anecdotally that there is a real marginal effect of lower reimbursements and more hassle in the current era causing MDs who were otherwise on the fence about retirement deciding to do it.

Obamacare is really only a small part of this, at least so far. Its more about ever-shrinking payments via medicare in certain medical specialties. Since physician practices are effectively small businesses with fixed expenses, even small cuts to reimbursement can lead to pretty dramatic cuts to bottom line (ie take home pay).

Posted by: looking closely at January 10, 2014 12:11 PM (6Q9g2)

166 Sven 10077: "...AND they are likely to win back the House and Keep the Senate unless our leadership starts attacking this cocksucker."

Thanks for the datapoint. Fifty percent is pretty bad. I expect pretty bad all the time now. It's the New Normal.

As to the GOP attacking, I have zero faith. I expect them to curl up into a ball. Oh sure, the Tea Party contingency will speak stridently, but the "leadership" will remain tempered and try as hard as possible not to make a serious ripple... because that might draw criticism from the Left and the MFM (BIRM).

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 10, 2014 12:11 PM (eHIJJ)

167 They already blamed it on the Cold......Uh, I mean Global Warming.
-
Which is caused by Republican hatred.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 10, 2014 12:12 PM (XUKZU)

168 iirc, it's all quarterly-based. So mid-April, I would imagine. February, I think. A lot of Q4s end Dec-Jan, and the numbers are compiled and released late Jan - Feb.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 12:12 PM (PYAXX)

169 msnbc is this the wave of the left throwing SCOAMF under the bus to clear the way for clinton? because, they've always run with hyping the lower rate, regardless, and it was always easy for them to lie in the past spinning is in their job description what changed?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: chili con carne at January 10, 2014 12:12 PM (IXrOn)

170 I smell Bid Anus's hand in all this.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2014 12:12 PM (P1WNR)

171 btw, what was the R response to these data? Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2014 04:07 PM (gYIst) AMNESTY!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 10, 2014 12:13 PM (bCEmE)

172 #161 And the Deems (thanks to whoever typoed that, I'm keeping it) now want $15/hr minimum wage.
===

Which political party benefits from unemployment?

Posted by: looking closely at January 10, 2014 12:13 PM (6Q9g2)

173 I meant : I smell Big Anus's hand in all this.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 10, 2014 12:13 PM (P1WNR)

174 Saying the unemployment numbers are down is like saying Joe Biden is a leading statesmen of our time.

Posted by: seems legit at January 10, 2014 12:13 PM (A98Xu)

175 Chirpy parrot will just use this to justify welfare extension
-
I don't know about Chirpy Parrot but Harry Reid has.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 10, 2014 12:13 PM (XUKZU)

176 Youth Misery Index is up 18 points to 98.6!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 10, 2014 12:13 PM (45N4D)

177 Global Warming.
Which is caused by Republican hatred.

And yet here in my "red county" all my snow is melting.

Guess I'm not hating hard enough.

Posted by: HR at January 10, 2014 12:13 PM (ZKzrr)

178 Nothing has changed Income inequality and welfare extension is the next crisis They will use this for that

Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2014 12:14 PM (jRvom)

179 Which political party benefits from unemployment Depends on your definition of "benefits." If you mean "which one gets more votes" it's the Deems. If you mean "which one gets to keep their cushy jobs paid for on the backs of the proles" it's both.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 12:14 PM (PYAXX)

180 >>Focused like a laser!

.....on the back nine! That 16th hole on the course at Andrews AFB is a doozy, I tell ya.

Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at January 10, 2014 12:14 PM (POpqt)

181

I keep thinking of the animals in Orwell's book, 'Animal Farm', and on the heels of that, old Soviet Union agitprop forever announcing astronomically exceeded production quotas on shoes and grain and whatever else was in desperately short supply.

We know the real unemployment figures have been obscured since President Obama took office. We also know that the inflation rate has been hidden, especially when it comes to grocery prices (smaller weight and portions on about every staple). Everywhere, numbers have been nudged and fudged and buried and hidden outright.

The real story here isn't that governments lie, although our government has had a reputation for openness and honesty with its people since its inception, especially when compared to other governments. The real story here is that the American press has actively colluded with the government to hide the truth in order to protect the current Administration.

A free press willing to speak truth to power. You don't know how much that means until it's gone.

Posted by: troyriser at January 10, 2014 12:15 PM (gNlvW)

182 The area between the red line and the blue line on the graph is how much soilent green they should be making.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 10, 2014 12:15 PM (z+4T3)

183 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 04:11 PM (PYAXX) The vast majority of jobs I'm applying for are in the $11-$14 range. (Again the STEM jobs, the full time ones.) Now granted they come with benefits, so I'm not complaining. What I am saying is a $15/hr minimum wage would probably just about eliminate those jobs (in part because they're dependent on the lower level jobs making $9-10/hr.) Talk about crushing. It'll be interesting to see what happens if the minimum wage hits the senate floor. I imagine that lots of jobs I"m applying for would suddenly become 30hrs/week and lose benefits.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 10, 2014 12:15 PM (GaqMa)

184 Why does no one ever calculate me?

Posted by: U6 Unemployment Figure at January 10, 2014 12:15 PM (UhXzR)

185 Yeah, off topic, but it pisses the hell out of me... Reason number 1,458 that I quit donating to the GOP: http://preview.tinyurl.com/kymxfz8 Nothing like GOP leadership going after Mark Levin. We got McCain, Romney, and *UP NEXT* Krispy Kreme from these exact same aholes. Don't you dare tell me that my "conservative" choice will be Krispy Kreme in 2016. Fat social liberal democrat who balances budgets, so we call him a 'R'. Bull****. Rant off.

Posted by: rightwingva at January 10, 2014 12:15 PM (kCnae)

186 Focused like a laser! You know who else focused like a laser?

Posted by: Grand Moff Tarkin at January 10, 2014 12:15 PM (PYAXX)

187 Coming soon, the latest innovation:

Censoring criticism of the welfare state.

http://tinyurl.com/orhtoyq

Posted by: torquewrench at January 10, 2014 12:15 PM (gqT4g)

188
Corp earnings seasons: Jan, May, Aug, Nov.

GDP qtrly reports: Feb, June, Sept, Dec.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 10, 2014 12:16 PM (gYIst)

189 Well, there's always Global ~~Total~~ Thermonuclear War.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2014 04:08 PM (TIIx5)

FIFY

Posted by: WOPR at January 10, 2014 12:16 PM (L8r/r)

190 The economy is poised. Someone needs to get those promised land zone thingys going then watch out.

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 10, 2014 12:16 PM (mETGQ)

191 Socialism => chronic high unemployment. Simple, comrade.

Posted by: maddogg at January 10, 2014 12:16 PM (xWW96)

192 Don't worry. If we can all just hang on I'm sure Hillary has a plan. In the meantime the overall EU rate is now above 12% with (I think) the under 25 demo around 40% in Spain. Italy and France young ones are in a similar rut. Japan has announced that they are simply going to print money until War with China jumpstarts their economy and some former intel pundit last weekend said Iran already may be manufacturing nukes. We need to get serious about climate change.

Posted by: Daybrother at January 10, 2014 12:17 PM (80+IY)

193 I'll bet msnbc is highlighting this is to make the case that the only reason this economy ain't humming like monica Lewinski is because republicans obstruct growth via killing the extended unemployment benefits.

Posted by: Mac at January 10, 2014 12:17 PM (0J18b)

194 Income inequality winter bitches

Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2014 12:17 PM (jRvom)

195 ZzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Posted by: The MSM, Now With 20% More Truthiness at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (8ZskC)

196 It's all the Polar Votex's fault!!!! A week of cold weather completely destroyed Recovery Winter V: The Frozening

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (1Jaio)

197 Stay down sucka!

Posted by: Affirmative Action Jackson droppin' a bitch slap on the U .S Economy at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (dvRYt)

198 What I am saying is a $15/hr minimum wage would probably just about eliminate those jobs (in part because they're dependent on the lower level jobs making $9-10/hr.) Well, maybe. It's more complicated than that, but it certainly wouldn't help you. More likely than the jobs simply evaporating is that they'd continue to exist (if the work is there, the work is there) but your buying power would be so negatively effected you'd be better off being on welfare.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (PYAXX)

199 My in laws just bought a huge house in a nice suburb of Atlanta. How bad is the housing market there? There are permanent, wooden for sale signs up on properties all over town. It was surreal.

Posted by: Lauren at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (hFL/3)

200 Raise the minimum wage NOW!
This will create factory jobs building burger-making robots to replace employees at the new self-serve fast food resaurants.

Posted by: irright at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (pMGkg)

201

Posted by: troyriser at January 10, 2014 04:15 PM (gNlvW)

Yes food price inflation is being hidden. Freaking wings average almost a $1.00 a wing now. That cannot stand!!

Posted by: polynikes at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (m2CN7)

202 #179 Depends on your definition of "benefits."

If you mean "which one gets more votes" it's the Deems.

If you mean "which one gets to keep their cushy jobs paid for on the backs of the proles" it's both.
===

I meant the first thing.

On the second thing, I'm not sure.

Empirically speaking, most incumbents (of either party) have significant structural advantage and tend to get re-elected most times, regardless of external factors like the economy. High unemployment "should" lead to lower job security for incumbent politicians (of either party). I guess it remains to be seen to what extent this holds true this coming election cycle.

Posted by: looking closely at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (6Q9g2)

203 >>I'll bet msnbc is highlighting this is to make the case that the only reason this economy ain't humming like monica Lewinski is because republicans obstruct growth via killing the extended unemployment benefits. And only Hillary! can save us.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (SUKHu)

204 I'm not fat I'm Rubenesque!

Posted by: U6 Unemployment Figure at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (UhXzR)

205 The root problem is that we need to give the EPA authority to eliminate all jobs, then we can all suck the government tit. Which will produce sawdust.

Posted by: maddogg at January 10, 2014 12:18 PM (xWW96)

206 @181 re: hidden numbers... the Commies can still get away with baseline budgeting (where an actual increase is termed a cut if it is less than the expected increase). But, how many of us know exactly how much tax we pay on a gallon of gas, state plus federal? On your ammo? On a 6-pack of beer or a liter of Valu-rite?
And an income tax refund is though by some to be $$ from the government. That's what with-holding does for them.

Posted by: Procrustes Autocratus Rex at January 10, 2014 12:19 PM (1/4XQ)

207

>>>>Well, there's always Global Total Thermonuclear War.

That's like the Broken Window Fallacy, right?

Posted by: Bigby's Squeegee Hands at January 10, 2014 12:19 PM (3ZtZW)

208 Sssssssssssssssssss...

Posted by: The Fuse on the Employer Mandate Bomb at January 10, 2014 12:19 PM (8ZskC)

209 You still get to have an iPhone to go along with your poverty and emptiness, so not all bad.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 12:19 PM (ZPrif)

210 Nothing has changed Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2014 04:14 PM (jRvom) except this: Mika: Christie Taking Responsibility in Way Obama Never Did for IRS Scandal when's the last time you saw mika/msnbc slam JFE?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: chili con carne at January 10, 2014 12:19 PM (IXrOn)

211 Pivot!!!!

Posted by: thunderb at January 10, 2014 04:11 PM (jRvom)

Barry: That's divot. Dammit!! Another one

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2014 12:19 PM (1Jaio)

212 Well, there's always Global Thermonuclear War. Talk about global warming!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2014 12:19 PM (CRyse)

213 I'm prepared for any turndown. Been practicing for decades.

Posted by: appalachia dude at January 10, 2014 12:20 PM (m2CN7)

214 ...And after the Global Total War it'll be: "The GOP got us into Another Wasteful War of Choice!"

Posted by: Bigby's Squeegee Hands at January 10, 2014 12:20 PM (3ZtZW)

215
That blue line is gonna fall until:

1. 2014 elections
or
2. Amnesty passes
or
3. Both.

Note that it has nothing to do with unemployment. Almost all govt economic numbers are now manipulated.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 10, 2014 12:20 PM (n0DEs)

216 We implement European policies, we get European levels of structural unemployment. This was predictable. I, and many others, predicted it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 12:20 PM (ZPrif)

217 The vast majority of jobs I'm applying for are in the $11-$14 range. (Again the STEM jobs, the full time ones.) Seriously? The contractor and vendor jobs for (evil Redmond software company) are in the $35-65/hr range. Crap benefits, but it's really not hard to get a job there.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 10, 2014 12:20 PM (45N4D)

218 >>It's all the Polar Votex's fault!!!! A week of cold weather completely destroyed Recovery Winter V: The Frozening

Yeah, saw this scroll by on the chyron thingy during this morning's local news: Polar Vortex costs 5 Billion!

Since when do we calculate the price of Winter?
I mean, it's not like we can opt out of it to save money.

Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (POpqt)

219 Yeah I'm greater than 18. Honest. My parents won't be home for hours....

Posted by: U6 Unemployment Figure at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (UhXzR)

220 BREAKING: The NSA has observed increased suspicious activity among ATMs and airport kiosks in that last 60 days, suggesting that a machine conspiracy is at work attempting to drive up the nation's unemployment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (8ZskC)

221 What this country needs is a good five cent cigar.
- Bill Clinton

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (XUKZU)

222 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 04:18 PM (PYAXX) I suspect (having some knowledge of the fields I'm applying to) that the work is there in part because it can be had for $13/hr plus benefits. If it's $15/benefits, they'll find a way to eliminate at least part of that. Figure that's an extra 4k/year (plus FICA, plus 401k match). But the fun thing about laboratory work is part of the reason you hire someone for 40 hours is because the marginal increase to keep them on for more than the 30 or so hours of work you have for them isn't that much. BUT, if it suddenly is a whole bunch, you'll start keeping them around less.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (GaqMa)

223 Chirpy Parrot isn't so chirpy over the mere 74,000 jobs created in December. If only we kept the population constant...

Posted by: Dr Kermet Gosnell at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (FcR7P)

224 No you call it "no recovery" because it is a lie. Posted by: Vic I said what I did about a bubble because if we talk about the bad economy, leftists will point to the stock market and say things can't be bad, look how high the market is. For crony capitalists who get gravy from the gov't, it's aces. For obama's friends, it's great. And for anyone employed by the gov't, they aren't hurting at all. They all get to ride the bubble. For the rest of us hidden beneath the shadow of the bubble, not so much. By Monday, the left will have forgotten all about the bad jobs numbers of today and they'll all be back to talking about how well the market's doing.

Posted by: elaine at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (GNZ0/)

225 Unrecovery Winter! The Polar Vortex can now be expunged from climate data (such an outlier, of course, it would just skew all the good data) and is now to only be used as the reason for the crappy job numbers. I see Carny Barker grew an attempt of a beard during the Polar Vortex. Must be getting cold in those WH briefings. Either that or he wanted everyone to stop calling him Hermy the Dentist.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (TjI1n)

226 6000+ jobs lost in healthcare. First time since 2003.

Posted by: chuckinseattle at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (w/ZL5)

227 Off damn sock

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2014 12:21 PM (POpqt)

228 -
Self-serve fast food restaurants will be Obama's legacy.
To paraphrase The One himself: We are the ones waiting on us.

Posted by: irright at January 10, 2014 12:22 PM (8GKDa)

229 Blow me! Woohoo!
Blow me! Woohoo!

Posted by: Joe Scarborough's Chirpy Parrot at January 10, 2014 12:22 PM (PK+r9)

230 The economy is poised On the edge of the cliff.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2014 12:22 PM (CRyse)

231 My in laws just bought a huge house in a nice suburb of Atlanta. How bad is the housing market there? There are permanent, wooden for sale signs up on properties all over town. It was surreal. In Canada the doctors have permanent wooden signs that say "no new patients".

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 10, 2014 12:22 PM (45N4D)

232 The GOP hates Brown Glowing People!

Posted by: Bigby's Squeegee Hands at January 10, 2014 12:22 PM (3ZtZW)

233 I didn't realize the economy was so racist.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 10, 2014 12:22 PM (z+4T3)

234 Posted by: bonhomme at January 10, 2014 04:20 PM (45N4D) Eh? I'm in the ST part of STEM. Lab work never paid great, and there's currently a glut of lab workers as pharma companies keep shrinking R&D teams around here. (Plus it's cheap to live in the Midwest.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 10, 2014 12:23 PM (GaqMa)

235 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 10, 2014 04:21 PM (GaqMa) Also- learn programming. Developers who are also trained in Sciency fields tend to do Very Well for themselves, monetarily speaking.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 12:23 PM (PYAXX)

236 Why yes .... I have had a little nip and tuck done.

Posted by: U3 Unemployment Figure at January 10, 2014 12:23 PM (UhXzR)

237 The root problem is that we need to give the EPA authority to eliminate all jobs, then we can all suck the government tit.

We can then proceed with our experiment into whether a great economy can sustain itself when its citizens' economic activity is confined to selling each other massages.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 10, 2014 12:23 PM (8ZskC)

238 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 10, 2014 04:21 PM (GaqMa)

What STEM field are you in, generally speaking?

Posted by: Country Singer at January 10, 2014 12:24 PM (L8r/r)

239 Well, there's always Global Thermonuclear War. Talk about global warming! Actually we were supposed to get a nuclear winter if Ronbo launched on the Rooskies. Instead we are faced with global warming. Hey wait a minute.....

Posted by: Mac at January 10, 2014 12:24 PM (0J18b)

240 Come on people turn those frowns upside down. When His Highness grants amnesty to millions of illegals the jobs picture will only get better. It's gold Jerry, gold! PS: You're all racist.

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 10, 2014 12:25 PM (agBXF)

241 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 10, 2014 04:23 PM (PYAXX) Everyone one of my attempts to learn programing has failed miserably. Basic, Qbasic, C++. I dunno why. I've just never been able to pick it up. Probably for the same reason I can do advanced calculus but for some reason have problems with physics.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 10, 2014 12:25 PM (GaqMa)

242

>>>Also- learn programming. Developers who are also trained in Sciency fields tend to do Very Well for themselves, monetarily speaking.

Like developing healthcare insurance pro ... wait, you're not in Canada? Nevermind.

Posted by: Bigby's Squeegee Hands at January 10, 2014 12:25 PM (3ZtZW)

243 The only way to stimulate the economy is with unemployment benefits, raising taxes and more regulation.

Posted by: Nasty Pelosi at January 10, 2014 12:25 PM (mETGQ)

244 Also, a plus for Democrats is it's mostly the white middle class Republicans that postpone children and family formation when they find themselves sliding down the income and status ladders of life. Cause they think they'll be able to climb back into the middle class, so they wait until then to have kids. The poor just have kids anyway cause they know they'll always be poor. The failing middle class is still ashamed that they live poorer lives than their parents and grandparents. So the prudent and cautious with a sense of shame don't have kids. They shameless people who don't give a fuck keep breeding, though. Idiocracy here we come.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 10, 2014 12:25 PM (ZPrif)

245 Nood

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at January 10, 2014 12:25 PM (5ikDv)

246 U4 figure

Never heard of it

Posted by: Charles Bibson at January 10, 2014 12:25 PM (UhXzR)

247 Posted by: Country Singer at January 10, 2014 04:24 PM (L8r/r) I have an undergraduate degree in biology. And a little over 2 years in a biochemistry/molecular genetics lab. (we did both.) Including 2 published papers (3rd author on one 2nd on the other.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 10, 2014 12:26 PM (GaqMa)

248 Self-serve fast food restaurants will be Obama's legacy.

Everything old is new again.
http://is.gd/BSZjT1

FORWARD!

Posted by: HR at January 10, 2014 12:26 PM (ZKzrr)

249 I'm no mathematician, but how can we ever get rid of "income equality?"
I mean, no matter what happens to wages, the bottom will always be zero (not counting all the stuff given to unemployed - benefits, tax refunds, etc.).
So unless they create a cap on the highest wages there will always be a disparity that Obama and others can use to whine about "inequality" and the need for "justice" to fix it. What am I missing?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 10, 2014 12:27 PM (POpqt)

250 Also- learn programming. Developers who are also trained in Sciency fields tend to do Very Well for themselves, monetarily speaking. I love love love C#, but it doesn't have a large market share. Java is a good one to learn. C++ is still king, even though it's a dinosaur that needs to die. LINQ by itself is worth the price of admission. Also, first class functions! Love C#! I tried to explain LINQ to a Java guy at Amazon. "Oh, why would you need another SQL language?" He didn't get you can do amazing things to any collection. Did not compute.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 10, 2014 12:27 PM (A0glY)

251
Well, there's always Global Total Thermonuclear War.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2014 04:08 PM (TIIx5)

FIFY

Posted by: WOPR at January 10, 2014 04:16 PM (L8r/r)

Y'know, I originally was thinking that exact same joke, typed it out like that until I remembered that Europe hasn't done the nuke thing yet.

But the total war thing is right up Europe's alley.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 10, 2014 12:27 PM (TIIx5)

252

On Special Report the woman from Fortune made an excellent turn of phrase when she said Obama doesn't care about employment, he cares about enrollment.

Posted by: neunundzwanzieg at January 10, 2014 12:27 PM (Kxz3Y)

253 BUT UNEMPLOYMENT CREATES JOBS!! BARKY SAID SO!!!

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at January 10, 2014 12:28 PM (wtvvX)

254 249 Lizzy at January 10, 2014 04:27 PM (POpqt)

You're missing the "Gulag" equation

Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 10, 2014 12:28 PM (TE35l)

255 Wasn't the term McJobs coined under Booosh! because his 5% unemployment was worse because all the hamburger jobs??? Funny how the MFM forgot that term.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 10, 2014 12:28 PM (9Bdcz)

256 The awesome thing about this is all those people can sit at home and watch me be awesome on television! *beaming smile*

Posted by: Barry Obama at January 10, 2014 12:28 PM (oFCZn)

257 6000+ jobs lost in healthcare. First time since 2003. Posted by: chuckinseattle at January 10, 2014 04:21 PM (w/ZL5) Job listings are intresting. Lots of part time and per diem openings.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 10, 2014 12:29 PM (mETGQ)

258 226 6000+ jobs lost in healthcare. First time since 2003.
==

Healthcare jobs aren't "magic", employers there respond to incentives the same as any other industry. With dollars being squeezed ever tighter, and tremendous disincentive to hire full time employees, layoffs and hiring of part-timers for jobs that used to be staffed by full timers are the expected results. . .same as every other industry.

I work in healthcare, and my company has had to fire full time employees, add work to the remaining ones (without concomitant pay increases) and cut benefits. We're all still grateful to have jobs and work, but nobody is particularly "happy" right now.

Posted by: looking closely at January 10, 2014 12:29 PM (6Q9g2)

259 Liberals kept saying people were just retiring or going back to school, that's a lot of people who are still in school.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 10, 2014 12:29 PM (WdbF7)

260 If we'd only all go break some windows, we'd have this economy heated up in no time.

Posted by: John Maynard Keynes at January 10, 2014 12:31 PM (UhXzR)

261 "Obama will of course spin this disastrous jobs creation number as due to the 16-day shutdown of 17% of the federal workforce in October." Well maybeI but i believe I heard some moonbat trying to blame it on the polar vortex. Yeah that's what happened. People figured out that it would be cold in Jan so they quit looking for work in Dec

Posted by: Iosif Vissarionvich at January 10, 2014 12:31 PM (iCjkG)

262 The jobs number is uglier than Michelle Obama

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2014 12:31 PM (1Jaio)

263 Liberals kept saying people were just retiring or going back to school, that's a lot of people who are still in school. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 10, 2014 04:29 PM (WdbF7) **** If that were the case then the vacant position should have been filled.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 10, 2014 12:32 PM (mETGQ)

264 With health jobs, I think nursing has peaked. For about the last 8 years there has been a major push in advertising and schooling for nurses. I think those openings are closing now, partly Obamacare, partly because the demand has already been met.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 10, 2014 12:32 PM (WdbF7)

265 At the hospital where my wife has been an RN almost 23 years, they have been having rounds of buyouts to get the senior staff to leave. I doubt half of them have gotten "replacement" jobs yet. Wonder how those data points skew the numbers??

Posted by: Vortex Lovera at January 10, 2014 12:32 PM (wtvvX)

266 The jobs number is uglier fatter than Michelle Obama
FIFY

Posted by: U3 Unemployment Figure at January 10, 2014 12:33 PM (UhXzR)

267

Maybe we just need to wait for the secret-Canadian-aliens to provide us with the technology we need to fix the economy.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at January 10, 2014 12:35 PM (UjSt7)

268 "What about the Polar Vortex? That had to cost about twenty bazillion jobs."

That will be the cause of the lousy January job report. Because Strong Headwinds.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 10, 2014 12:35 PM (Vv4Go)

269 Why all the harsh on the president? He is trying his darnedest to make our country better for everyone. I know that my husband is so grateful for his 24 hour work week at the local convenience store. It's more than we ever dreamed of! Better than when he was making six figures with a major oil company. Upward mobility here we come! Fuckers.

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 10, 2014 12:36 PM (agBXF)

270 Reminds me of that song in The Life of Brian

Posted by: Vox Magna at January 10, 2014 12:36 PM (q177U)

271 #249

Did you know that half of people have below-average intelligence?

The entire concept of "income inequality" is intellectually flawed. Of course the ultimate "income equality" would be everyone earning zero, but until every single working person earns EXACTLY the same amount of money, there will always be "income inequality".

Its like defining "poverty" by percentile earnings, instead of actual material wealth. That's why in this country we have the paradoxical situation of the "poor" with their own cell phones, cars, flat screen TVs and more per-capital square foot living space than the richer denizens of other developed countries. Not to say there isn't actual poverty in the USA, but if you believe this article, the POOREST 10% of Americans live better than the RICHEST 10% of Russians and Mexicans (to name a few), let alone the majority of human beings on the planet:

http://tinyurl.com/nxyt3sc

Posted by: looking closely at January 10, 2014 12:37 PM (PwGfd)

272 6000+ jobs lost in healthcare. First time since 2003.

The 2013 average (per 50 above) was +17k per month. That's a -net- loss of 23,000 for December from the average.

Unless you back off farther and use the 2012 average of +27k per month.
That would be a net loss of -33,000.

Ouch.

Not 10%, but that's 4%.

Posted by: Al at January 10, 2014 12:39 PM (9ynpo)

273 I duuno. It seems bit racist to me to hold Obama up to some sort of mathamtical standard.

Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at January 10, 2014 12:40 PM (/EkKm)

274 "Always look on the bright side of life"

Posted by: Vox Magnus at January 10, 2014 12:41 PM (q177U)

275 This just proves it is time to crush the check cashing and payday loan industry. Next year we unveil the official Federal VisaÂ™ card. We're going to call it The Worker Card. EBTs will be upgraded.

Posted by: The Agenda at January 10, 2014 12:42 PM (7lF3o)

276 121? torquewrench? I started as a machinist at Island auto parts in 1969. Learned welding and mechanics. My Dad had a construction firm so I learned the trades except for block-laying and sheetrock- that was just coming in.

Did a variety of skilled trades including running the Island's water and sewer plants. Met my first late wife who owned a half a dozen stores here. Once she noticed I had a head for business I became her informal partner.

After she died I became embroiled in 7, $7,000,000 lawsuits with her relatives. They collapsed in 1985 or '86- due to a letter her brother had sent her, basically destroying their cases.

Her estate- which she bragged right before death was "worth $5,000,000? Turned into about $200,000 actual money. Long gone.

In the interim I re-married then re-buried another wife. Did construction work off and on. Spent the nineties running wrecker and welding services until I realized "Hell, I am getting to old to do this anymore...."

But? I am getting by. Barely. That will have to do, for now.

Posted by: backhoe at January 10, 2014 12:42 PM (ULH4o)

277 #264
You're right. The "boom" is over and demand for nurses is way down now.

There are still jobs out there, but where as every hospital used to always be hiring, now they're harder to find, and particularly so in "desirable" geographic areas near large cities that most people want to live in.

Posted by: looking closely at January 10, 2014 12:43 PM (6Q9g2)

278 Re 276 Sorry backhoe but the Prez is just doing what he promised... He's spreading the money, or in your case, your money around.

Posted by: Iosif Vissarionvich at January 10, 2014 12:50 PM (iCjkG)

279 Sorry to go off-topic, but check out the Misunderstood Youth: http://freenorthcarolina.blogspot.com/2014/01/new-york-teen-arrested-in-connection.html

Posted by: Jafo at January 10, 2014 01:38 PM (FIvA6)

280 there are those here who would deny us the right to smoke a doob on a Friday evening in the privacy of my own home with no minors present.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 10, 2014 04:00 PM (7ObY1)

Nice cheap shot.

Posted by: [/i]KG at January 10, 2014 01:49 PM (p7BzH)

281 Yes, there has been absolutely no actual improvement in the employment situation, except for the millions who have just given up and now subsist on the Federal dime. Worse still: they're no longer paying (as much, any?) taxes to the Feds as when they were fully employed.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 10, 2014 01:58 PM (1hM1d)

282 Lost my businesses in 2011. Went back to my previous industry and got downsized in October. Am now living with kids and working as full time Nanny for my twin 2 yr old granddaughters while daughter and SIL try to make ends meet. Lost my house, declared Chapt 7 and at 57 trying like hell to find anything that pays more than minimum. Everything I have left sits in a 16' POD. At least I still have my dog and my jag. Funny yet sad story. I was on my way out here to the East coast. Driving through West Virginia in a blizzard up into the mountains when I stopped for gas about 1AM. Young girl about 14 approached me as I was filling tank. Clearly homeless, she asked for money. Dressed in a thin coat in 18 degree snow storm. I told her I was homeless at the moment too. She looked at the car packed to the rafters and said "Nice house for a homeless person:" I gave her 20 bucks and a blanket, bought her a hot chocolate and left. I cried all the way to Pennsylvania. It is tough all over.

Posted by: DailyDish at January 10, 2014 02:22 PM (JEzFU)

283 It's even worse than the chart shows- that doesn't add in those entering the workforce from college or wherever....

If it wasn't for our initial prosperity and the extensions of extensions of unemployment, we'd start seeing people on the street selling apples.

Posted by: Wysiwyg Mtwzzyzx at January 10, 2014 02:23 PM (98Feg)

284 It would be racist to say that his economic policies have been a failure. So I'm not saying it.

Posted by: MarkD at January 11, 2014 05:46 AM (06gsL)

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