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April 25, 2014

"F*** the EU," Revisited
— Ace

"F*** the EU," top State official Victoria Nuland said on a phone call.

This phone call had been covertly recorded by Russia and was then leaked to the press, which should have been a signal that Russia, at least, was taking this more seriously than Obama's team was.

The F-bomb is deployed because NulandÂ’s frustrated that the EU isnÂ’t doing more to pressure Viktor Yanukovych, the Putin-backed Ukrainian president whose recent deal with Moscow instigated the last few months of protests.

Why wasn't the EU doing "more" to pressure Yanukovych, Putin's choice for President?

Here's the thing: Because the EU was thinking hard about the Ukraine and realistically about itself.

The EU didn't want to force Yanukovych out of power, nor encourage the Maidan movement to force him out of power, because they knew that Russia would react as Russia has in fact reacted.

And the EU knew this about themselves: They were not prepared to do a damn thing about a Russian invasion.

So the EU made a cynical, self-serving decision to not encourage or support the Maidan movement, because they knew they would not be doing anything down the road to support the Maidan movement when the movement actually needed support.

This was an unpopular decision, and it makes them seem cowardly and weak... but ti did have the benefit of comporting with reality.

The EU was clear-minded enough and had an honest enough appraisal of its interests and capabilities to make the honest, accurate assessment that they would do nothing in Putin but offer him diplomatic protests were he to invade Ukraine.

And the EU crafted its own policy response based on that accurate, honest appraisal of its own weakness and cowardice.

You can call them cowards, but you cannot call them self-deluded fools.

At least they understood themselves.

And what has the US done, by contrast?

We encouraged the Maidan protestors to hit the gas pedal on their revolution, but as Russia has done all the things that only a child could fail to predict that Russia would do, we have been surprised at every turn by the inevitable.

Now this got Obama some good press in February, back when supporting Maidan seemed like the right move for American Social Media Foreign Policy, and was, at that moment, a cost-free gesture.

But now the check is coming due, and what do we do to support the revolution we encouraged?

We offer Tweets.

Tweets.

The EU knew that they too would only offer Strongly Worded Tweets, should Ukraine depose Yanukuvich and Russia in turn invade Urkaine. Which is why they attempted to discourage Ukraine from doing that.

The American President, on the other hand, urged Ukraine to do just that, without telling them that should Russia begin shooting bullets into Ukrainians, the Ukranians could expect America to respond with Precision-Guided Tweets.

Obama has long had this sense of delusion about himself, that he is so inherently good and pure and charismatic that his simple words will move oceans, like the words of God Himself.

I can only imagine he did this because the thought, in the end, his Precious Red-Letter Words would be enough to fix another disaster he'd caused.

One last point:

If Obama were serious about any of this, he'd at least offer a Presidential Address to the Nation warning Russia away.

Why? Aren't those "just words" as well?

Yes, but the trick of the Presidential address is that it's an escalation. When a President speaks to the nation, he puts his own credibility and his own political fortunes on the line.

If he fails to act in the face of aggression after that, he suffers politically.

Thus, the point of the exercise is to put one's counter-party on notice that one has invested a policy with his own personal limited cache of authority, and hence will be much more likely to back that policy up with something more than well-crafted #hashtags.

But of course Obama isn't doing that. Instead, he has a relatively low-level bureaucrat out there #TweetingForFreedom.

And I'm not sure I blame him for that.

I don't want to go to war with Russia, either.

But I do wish that perhaps Obama could have managed the reasonable, realistic assessment of his actual level of capability and willingness to employ force that the EU managed.

And unfortunately, I think the Ukrainians will soon be wishing that as well.

I Just Got an Email from Winston Churchill... who, surprisingly, approves of Obama's foreign policy.

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of rising Russia and all the odious apparatus of the KGB state, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight on FaceBook, we shall fight on Instagram and Pinterest, we shall fight and, with growing follower lists and growing Likes, we shall defend our #hashtag, whatever the cost may be.
We shall fight on Twitter, we shall fight on Vine, we shall fight on the Washington Post's op-ed pages and in the New York Times' comment areas, we shall fight in Buzzfeed's gifs; we shall never surrender.
And if, which I do not for a moment believe, this #hashtag or a large part of it were hijacked by trolls, then our social media reach, armed and guarded by the writers at Media Matters and the Daily Beast, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, some miracle should descend upon us in rescue us so we can return, as we much desire, to the #WarOnWomen.
Romney wants to #BanTampons, please retweet.

Posted by: Ace at 03:13 PM | Comments (416)
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1 Bottom. Men.and.Women.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 25, 2014 03:15 PM (I9I9J)

The EU has fuct itself.

It doesn't really need the help.

Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 03:16 PM (la7X9)

3 But what did Jen Psaki and Samantha Power say?

Posted by: wth at April 25, 2014 03:18 PM (wAQA5)

4 Here's hoping the Ukrainians can pull a Finland. And here's hoping we won't be here 5 years from now, going to war and saying 'If only we'd stood up to Putin in 2014'. History may not repeat but it does rhyme.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 25, 2014 03:18 PM (FEgi1)

5 You'll get tweets and you'll like it!

Posted by: President Smalls at April 25, 2014 03:18 PM (PAplM)

6 If Obama were serious

There's your problem.

Posted by: pep at April 25, 2014 03:19 PM (4nR9/)

7 I read stories like this, and I feel like Sylvester Jr.

*dons paper bag*

Oh, I'm so ashamed.....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 25, 2014 03:19 PM (raF1/)

Obama has long had this sense of delusion about himself, that he is so inherently good and pure and charismatic that his simple words will move oceans, like the words of God Himself.

BLASPHEMER!! HERETIC!!! HE IS OUR GOD-KING!!!

Posted by: Cult of Obama at April 25, 2014 03:20 PM (8SsiG)

9 It's all of a piece with the notion that only those who are in the proper caste are fully self-determined beings with their own agency. No one else is and is only responding as they do Because American Imperialism. Thus, Putin doesn't really mean it when he talks about restoring Mother Russia. Thus, Muslim extremists don't mean it when they say they will kill all the infidels. No, no, no. Thus are just responses to what their overlords are doing to them and if America just grovels and mouths the correct platitudes, then all the bad things will stop. After all, the bad things occur only because we, the only ones who are truly human, are causing them to occur. And now we're going to have a global war because Our Betters are idiotic twats. Yay.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 25, 2014 03:20 PM (dMSj2)

10 # Reset button

Posted by: Roman Maroni at April 25, 2014 03:21 PM (KCCgc)

11 we spoiled the EU during WWII.. That said there is a new Euro trash on the Islands they can suck it.. that said... We blew all our Capital on Obama Econ 101 and now we stand like a Fuck wit instead of asking the EU to get out of the way ..we will handle it..

Posted by: 7 Days in May at April 25, 2014 03:21 PM (5V+Di)

I think you re wrong about the consistency of EU policies regarding Ukraine, Ace. They sent in politician after politician - people like Westerwelle the German Foreign Minister and Ashton the EU Commissar for foreign policy coordination - to whip up the Maidan crowd. The EU certainly would have loved itself some Ukraine and followed through on that wish, but now that this has provoked Russia into actions they are as clueless as we are.

The only difference is that, while I can see their interest in expansion and having Ukraine as a member-state, I have no idea what our business is in this whole affair. We have no interests there. Right now, we are more militant about European interests than the Europeans themselves.

Posted by: Red Widow at April 25, 2014 03:23 PM (qXNr4)

13 Hey, I'm standing here with my dick in one hand and a thumb up my ass with the other- what more can I do?

Posted by: Barack Obama, Super-Genius at April 25, 2014 03:23 PM (0cMkb)

14 And on the pedestal these words appear: "My name is Barackymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The twitter hashtags stretch far away.

Posted by: Percy Shelley at April 25, 2014 03:24 PM (8ZskC)

15 Since the Ukrainians had signed away their nukes for guarantees of sovereignty from Russia and the US, we should have loaned them thirty nukes of our own back and placed them under their control with an agreement to give them back in 1 year.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at April 25, 2014 03:24 PM (Qp0nB)

16 13 Hey, I'm standing here with my dick in one hand and a thumb up my ass with the other-

what more can I do?

Posted by: Barack Obama, Super-Genius

Ya see that wood chipper over there? The one with the big chute in front?

Posted by: pep at April 25, 2014 03:24 PM (4nR9/)

17 Only racists doubt hashtag diplomacy.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 25, 2014 03:25 PM (kqGWM)

18 ♪ It's only words And words are all I have To tweet the sitch away ♫

Posted by: Barack Gibb at April 25, 2014 03:25 PM (x8uS1)

19 I must say, at certain times, it almost seems as if Baroque Obahma doesn't know what he is doing ... Then again, perhaps he is willy like a fox, a rara vulpes if you will, and we're just too myopic to see the inevitable outcome!

Posted by: David Brooks [/i][/b] at April 25, 2014 03:25 PM (ujux6)

20 Again, Russian ships hanging out just off coast from me. Not. Cool.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 03:26 PM (GEICT)

21 Behind the scenes VJ say's he works soo hard as Genius , for long time.. He be Choom Boy all along...

Posted by: 7 Days in May at April 25, 2014 03:26 PM (5V+Di)

22 I fucking hate that guy.

Posted by: The Humpty at April 25, 2014 03:27 PM (hppbQ)

23 you know, although I love Italia like the cubbies, I agree F*** the EU

Posted by: navycopjoe at April 25, 2014 03:27 PM (krmE0)

24 just think if dick wad had done the same in 09 w/ Iran.

Posted by: jb at April 25, 2014 03:27 PM (sXICw)

25 I'm eating my waffles, Yo!

Posted by: O'God-King at April 25, 2014 03:29 PM (8SsiG)

26 Obama has long had this sense of delusion about himself, that he is so inherently good and pure and charismatic that his simple words will move oceans, like the words of God Himself.

'like'?

Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at April 25, 2014 03:30 PM (hO9ad)

27 In soviet Russia hash tags you!

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at April 25, 2014 03:30 PM (N+Fis)

28 So, what? you're just gonna "willow" the rest of us & leave us behind?

Posted by: shredded chi at April 25, 2014 03:31 PM (0HcI0)

29 Flexibility, Yo!!

Posted by: O'God-King at April 25, 2014 03:31 PM (8SsiG)

30 If Obama were serious There's your problem. It's more than that. I think Obama's completely disengaged from almost anything but what strikes him as interesting. Even then he'll only apply himself to that subject as long as it's not hard. He doesn't attend briefings. He does checkbox decision-making which mean he doesn't have to pretend to be interested or ask any questions. He barely speaks off teleprompter. His schedule starts after 10am and ends before 4pm most days. He doesn't answer questions except in long-winded Professor Boring Answers Nothing ways. He gets advance-copies of shows he likes, which means he's all caught up on the current ones. The man's killing time between fundraisers.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 25, 2014 03:31 PM (44jNh)

31 What exactly is gonna stop Putin from pushing west to Poland? Red lines and empty threats?

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 03:31 PM (QwwBH)

32 Yep, we're totally fucked.

Posted by: Ukrainians at April 25, 2014 03:31 PM (mx5oN)

33 Sooooo... How many months until WWIII? I'll place my bet on 16 to 20

Posted by: nnptcgrad at April 25, 2014 03:33 PM (Opyrm)

34 We shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight on Twitter, we shall fight on Facebook and Instagram.

Posted by: Winston Ogabe 404 at April 25, 2014 03:33 PM (Dwehj)

35 And now we're going to have a global war because Our Betters are idiotic twats. Yay.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 25, 2014 07:20 PM (dMSj2)

Yes, but at least a world war that wipes out most of the men in the current generation will solve our social security imbalance!

Posted by: Paul Krugman, master economist at April 25, 2014 03:33 PM (hO9ad)

36 32: gulp

Posted by: Eastern Europe at April 25, 2014 03:33 PM (8SsiG)

37 Ukraine? Is that where they make those cute little Ukeleles? Oh, look, a squirrel, on Ellen!

Posted by: Claire Cloggenstein, of the California Cloggensteins at April 25, 2014 03:34 PM (uopHF)

38 SCOAMF's problem is that he's a complete idiot.

Posted by: EC at April 25, 2014 03:35 PM (doBIb)

39 What exactly is gonna stop Putin from pushing west to Poland? Red lines and empty threats? Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 07:31 PM (QwwBH) Mommy asked me why Ukraine was important and I showed her where it was on the map. She said isn't that Poland and isn't Poland in NATO. I said yep. Then she understood. Frankly, I think that if there's an armed Russian invasion into Poland, TFG will ignore the NATO treaty obligations. Then the super interesting times begin.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 25, 2014 03:35 PM (dMSj2)

40 Posted by: EC at April 25, 2014 07:35 PM (doBIb) Sadly that's all our problem now as well.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) [/b] [/i] [/s] at April 25, 2014 03:35 PM (HDwDg)

41 "But I do wish that perhaps Obama could have managed the reasonable, realistic assessment of his actual level of capability and willingness to employ force that the EU managed."

I just can't get my head around how Obama's famously well developed abilities for "reasonable, realistic assessment of his actual level of capability" suddenly just up and quit, totally failed, right out of the blue, in this one specific instance.

Surely among his many superb abilities, if there is one thing at which that man is an absolute star, it's at making "reasonable, realistic assessment of his actual level of capability".

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 03:35 PM (noWW6)

42 Â“Look on my tweets ye Mighty & despair!Â”Â—@BarackObama @StateDeptsSpox @JohnKerry #UnitedForUkraine #HashTagDiplomacy http://minx.cc/?post=348783

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2014 03:36 PM (WX3R9)

43 Last tweet inspired by Percy, above.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2014 03:36 PM (WX3R9)

44 Frankly, I think that if there's an armed Russian invasion into Poland, TFG will ignore the NATO treaty obligations. No, no, he'll ask Putin to delay the invasion until February 2017.

Posted by: EC at April 25, 2014 03:36 PM (doBIb)

45 Whomever wins the next Presidential election is going to inherit a foreign policy mess that will cripple their administration. It will take years if not another world war to unwind the folly of these dipshits.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 03:36 PM (QwwBH)

46 T***GIF!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 25, 2014 03:37 PM (IXrOn)

So, this is what the World looks like with the US disengaged. Interesting times indeed.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 25, 2014 03:37 PM (8SsiG)

48 I wish that we had a strong woman in charge to just push RESET on this whole mess

Posted by: fabio at April 25, 2014 03:38 PM (uxJMc)

49 And here I was thinking that we were going to get out of this asshole's 2 terms with a slight limp.

Fuck.

Posted by: The Humpty at April 25, 2014 03:38 PM (hppbQ)

50 What exactly is gonna stop Putin from pushing west to Poland? Red lines and empty threats?

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 07:31 PM (QwwBH)

It seems to me that depends on whether the Poles stay on their side of the border, or behave more proactively.

Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 03:38 PM (hO9ad)

51 Obama has long had this sense of delusion about himself, that he is so inherently good and pure and charismatic that his simple words will move oceans, like the words of God Himself.
Behold his mighty hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqCTq3EeDcY

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 25, 2014 03:39 PM (I9I9J)

52 47 So, this is what the World looks like with the US disengaged. Interesting times indeed. Posted by: Puddleglum at April 25, 2014 07:37 PM (8SsiG) No, this is what the world looks like with the US led by fools, naives and juveniles.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 03:39 PM (GEICT)

53 It will take years if not another world war to unwind the folly of these dipshits. And like September 11, theyÂ’ll blame it on the president whoÂ’s been in office for less than a year (assuming theyÂ’re Republican, of course; otherwise, theyÂ’ll blame Bush).

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2014 03:39 PM (WX3R9)

54 Then the super interesting times begin. Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at April 25, 2014 07:35 PM (dMSj2) fnord (dMSj2) It is a thing that interesting things are often boringly predictable from a small distance, isn't it?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 25, 2014 03:40 PM (qyfb5)

55 The Polish Order of Battle

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/pl-army-orbat.htm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 25, 2014 03:40 PM (L8umz)

[Ace:] ..."Obama has long had this sense of delusion about himself, that he is so ~~inherently good and pure and~~ charismatic that his simple words will move oceans, like the words of God Himself.

FIFM

Barky is at war with anything that is good and pure, Ace.

But he does have an inflated sense of his powers of charisma.

And why shouldn't he?

It's what got him elected, twice.

Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 03:40 PM (la7X9)

57 So is Defcon 2 reached when he unfriends Putin?

Posted by: tu3031 at April 25, 2014 03:40 PM (nsQhi)

58 20 Again, Russian ships hanging out just off coast from me. Not. Cool. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 07:26 PM (GEICT) I think our base is #3 or 4 on their nuke list, if that makes you feel any better.

Posted by: pookysgirl at April 25, 2014 03:40 PM (tl+KL)

59 Nothing to fear...*mumble,mumble*...nothing to fear...*drool*

Posted by: Señor Juan McCain at April 25, 2014 03:40 PM (Dwehj)

60 Hey, you fucked up. You trusted us!

Posted by: Otter O'bumble at April 25, 2014 03:40 PM (gXRIG)

61 Recall Barry's first international rebuke? Chicago's bid for the Summer Olympics, with a delegation led by the president, the first lady, and Lt. General Oprah Winfrey. The answer was "ha ha. No."

Posted by: mrp at April 25, 2014 03:41 PM (JBggj)

62 SCOAMF is Hart Bochner's character from Die Hard. Thinking he can cut a deal with Hans Gruber, he puts himself into a dangerous situation and then is shocked to find out the stakes are very much real and is surprised when his words have no effect.

Posted by: EC at April 25, 2014 03:41 PM (doBIb)

No, this is what the world looks like with the US led by fools, naives and juveniles.

True. Disengagment and Utopian dreams is a feature, not a bug with "fools, naives, and juveniles".

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 25, 2014 03:41 PM (8SsiG)

64 pink lines, pink lines

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 03:42 PM (nqBYe)

65 I think our base is #3 or 4 on their nuke list, if that makes you feel any better. Posted by: pookysgirl at April 25, 2014 07:40 PM (tl+KL) Jacksonville used to be very VERY high on the strategic targets list. Not sure where it is now.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 03:42 PM (GEICT)

66 It all depends if Putin has misread this President. That instead of sucking his thumb, he orders something stupid and catastrophic. That in turns makes Putin return fire.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 25, 2014 03:42 PM (L8umz)

67 If any of our "allies" are still foolish enough to think we'd go to war to protect them and honor a treaty (NATO or otherwise), you're bigger dumbasses than the fools hear that voted for Barky. Too bad for you Europe, Taiwan, Japan, Israel, et al.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 03:42 PM (QwwBH)

68 I think Obama's God Hand bears a far more striking resemblance to the opening animation of Monty Python's Flying Circus.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 25, 2014 03:43 PM (qyfb5)

69 Frankly, I think that if there's an armed Russian invasion into Poland, TFG will ignore the NATO treaty obligations.

Then the super interesting times begin.

TFG? Yes.

Britain? They were making a lot more noise at the beginning of this about their obligations to Ukraine. I don't know if they could stomach leaving the Poles out to dry. You know, again.

Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 03:43 PM (hO9ad)

70 Whomever wins the next Presidential election is going to inherit a foreign policy mess that will cripple their administration. It will take years if not another world war to unwind the folly of these dipshits.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 07:36 PM (QwwBH)

Nahh, no worries, the next guy can just take a tour around the world apologizing to everyone. That'll do it.

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 03:43 PM (nTgAI)

71 People! People, please! We have to listen to our betters in the State Dept. They are credentialed and better than you and credentialed!

"State Department Pulls Pro-Ukraine YouTube Video After Commenters Reveal Map Error"

(* Wah-wah-waaaaaaa~ *)

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 25, 2014 03:43 PM (ujux6)

72 In general, I agree with the "F*** the EU" sentiment. It is very sad when the EU is on the smart-if-cowardly side of an issue and the USA is on the cowardly, self-delusional, foolish side.

Posted by: gm at April 25, 2014 03:43 PM (/kBoL)

73 Well Obama is a "Tweety Bird" and pretty much a chicken shit.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 25, 2014 03:43 PM (wdHk6)

74 Right. Obama has fucked this up from the beginning and we're now in a no win scenario.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 03:44 PM (ZPrif)

75 "I think you re wrong about the consistency of EU policies regarding Ukraine, Ace. They sent in politician after politician - people like Westerwellethe German Foreign Minister and Ashton the EUCommissar for foreign policy coordination - to whip up the Maidan crowd."

Um. Yes. Well. About the Ashton woman.

So let's reflect that Putin wanted a Ukraine crisis. For a couple of reasons. One was a _casus belli_ to grab chunks of Ukraine to be incorporated into his resurgent Greater Russia. Another was an opportunity to dial up the price of natural gas to Ukraine, while simultaneously demanding payment of arrears, and convince Western idiots to underwrite the hugely inflated bill.

And anyone with the sense God gave a goose would know all this in advance.

So why would Ashton hand Putin what he wanted, a crisis to exploit?

Consider Ashton's antecedents. She got her start in UK politics back in the days of CND, the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, a lefty peacenik group opposing Reagan and Thatcher.

Well, after the end of the Cold War, access was gained to certain of the Soviet system's files, and certain former Soviet intelligence officers talked, and it turned out that there had been a massive longstanding program run out of Moscow Centre to penetrate and control Western civilian organizations. Such as labor unions, educational societies, and... disarmament groups. To include... CND. Specifically named as such by the defectors.

So Ashton has in all likelihood been a paid catspaw of the Kremlin going back many decades.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 03:44 PM (noWW6)

76 So is Defcon 2 reached when he unfriends Putin? I do believe weÂ’ve done this joke before. President Obama furiously said that he has decisively flagged the YouTube video for review by Google in response to rioters burning down the United States embassy in Libya. Â“WeÂ’re also thinking about unfriending them on FaceBook,Â” said Vice President Joe Biden.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2014 03:44 PM (WX3R9)

77 Don't worry, Barry has stuff tee'd up.

Posted by: wth at April 25, 2014 03:44 PM (wAQA5)

78 i want to say something. he went after the insurance companies while having them write the bill he went after banks while funneling money to them he went after syria. cough. Stop that Putin, right now! so willfully dumb or doing foreign policy like he means it for realz.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 03:45 PM (nqBYe)

79 74 Right. Obama has fucked this up from the beginning and we're now in a no win scenario.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 07:44 PM (ZPrif)

You've learned nothing. Anything horrible is not President Dumbass' fault.

"The buck is over there somewhere."

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 25, 2014 03:45 PM (AC0lD)

80 just got this email from Winston Churchill: Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of rising Russia and all the odious apparatus of the KGB state, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight on FaceBook, we shall fight on Instagram and Pinterest, we shall fight with growing follower lists and growing Alexa ratings we shall defend our #hashtag, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on Twitter, we shall fight on Vine, we shall fight on the Washington Post's op-ed pages and in the New York Times' comment areas, we shall fight in Buzzfeed's gifs; we shall never surrender, and if, which I do not for a moment believe, this #hashtag or a large part of it were hijacked by trolls, then our social media reach, armed and guarded by the writers at Media Matters and the Daily Beast, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, some miracle should descend upon us in rescue us so we can return, as we much desire, to the #WarOnWomen. Romney wants to #BanTampons, please retweet.

Posted by: ace at April 25, 2014 03:45 PM (/FnUH)

81 Britain? They were making a lot more noise at the beginning of this about their obligations to Ukraine. I don't know if they could stomach leaving the Poles out to dry. You know, again. "What about Europe?" "I guess they figured twice in one century was enough. They're sitting this one out. All except England, and they won't last very long."

Posted by: EC at April 25, 2014 03:45 PM (doBIb)

82 WWII Britain and France honored their obligations to Poland by declaring war on Germany. But Germany's gamble paid off. They threw their entire armored might with airpower at Poland while leaving token forces guarding the Rhur. And after one abortive armor attack into the Rhur by France, no further attacks were carried out while Germany and the USSR dissected Poland.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 25, 2014 03:46 PM (L8umz)

83 >>>Nahh, no worries, the next guy can just take a tour around the world apologizing to everyone. That'll do it. Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 07:43 PM (nTgAI)>>> Dude! That's where Hillary's accomplishments come into play! She's clearly the best option to follow Obama. Do you know how many miles she flew while at State?! Not as many as Condi? The deuce you say! No matter. We need Hillary!

Posted by: gm at April 25, 2014 03:46 PM (/kBoL)

84 How can anybody be worried with Nuland, Psaki, Power and Jarrett advising Hussein?

Posted by: wth at April 25, 2014 03:46 PM (wAQA5)

85 Grandpa, what did you do in the Great Twitter War?

Posted by: Never Die Alone at April 25, 2014 03:46 PM (/vO0r)

86 Obama shot bin Laden tho

Posted by: fabio at April 25, 2014 03:46 PM (uxJMc)

87 ...we have been surprised at every turn by the inevitable. *** Nice turn of phrase, Ace.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 25, 2014 03:46 PM (MKpBT)

88 No, this is what the world looks like with the US led by fools, naives and juveniles. AKA Psychotic Children. Or PC for short.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 25, 2014 03:47 PM (0HooB)

89 are we saying this guy and ALL those people are really this stupid? what do most of them have in common? what is their ideology? their thoughts about america and the world?

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 03:47 PM (nqBYe)

90 I believe Fuck The EU was on the B-side of Surprised By The Inevitable.

Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2014 03:47 PM (FcR7P)

91 The Polish Order of Battle

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/pl-army-orbat.htm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 25, 2014 07:40 PM (L8umz)

I would be love to hear what the Poles are saying behind closed doors right now.

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 03:48 PM (nTgAI)

92 we're now in a no win scenario. No worries, I'll just reprogram the simulator.

Posted by: Cadet Barry O. Kirk at April 25, 2014 03:48 PM (x8uS1)

93 What did Obama do in his campaign? Apologise to everyone for America.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 03:48 PM (nqBYe)

94 Too bad for you Europe, Taiwan, Japan, Israel, et al. I have to wonder who else is looking at this and wondering if this is their window of opportunity. The Dirty Harry question, I guess, is, do they think this is the start of a new line of leaderless administrations, or if it was just a fluke. We kind of have to hope China, Iran, North Korea, et. al. think that we will continue to elect Obamas, so that they donÂ’t think theyÂ’re under a deadline.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2014 03:48 PM (WX3R9)

95 So what happens when Putin starts swallowing up Moldova, which--like Ukraine--has a sizeable ethnic Russian population? I also understand Putin has designs on Latvia, which also has a sizeable ethnic Russian population? It should be pointed out, by the way, that Latvia is a NATO member. Do you think that matters now?

Posted by: troyriser at April 25, 2014 03:48 PM (O66NZ)

96 62 SCOAMF is Hart Bochner's character from Die Hard. Thinking he can cut a deal with Hans Gruber, he puts himself into a dangerous situation and then is shocked to find out the stakes are very much real and is surprised when his words have no effect. Posted by: EC at April 25, 2014 07:41 PM (doBIb) Not to mention they're both cokeheads.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2014 03:49 PM (mx5oN)

97 troy, i believe there are quite a few russians in america .

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 03:49 PM (nqBYe)

98 So Ashton has in all likelihood been a paid catspaw of the Kremlin going back many decades. Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 07:44 PM (noWW6) fnord (noWW6) Well the job of the EU in the first place was to "harmonize" the unruly West with the well-ordered East. http://youtu.be/AZYcjVC2rRQ

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at April 25, 2014 03:49 PM (qyfb5)

99 That is all the mayor of NYC needs, Little Odessa demanding to join the Russian Federation.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 25, 2014 03:50 PM (L8umz)

100 Hmm...I have a great idea for a book.

Posted by: Zombie Tom Clancy at April 25, 2014 03:50 PM (Dwehj)

101 Â… Romney wants to #BanTampons, please retweet. That was brilliant.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 25, 2014 03:50 PM (WX3R9)

102 There is a chance that this nation will have a strong minded executive in January of 2017. At that point we will be over 20 trillion in debt. Embrace the fail.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (L02KD)

103 "I would be love to hear what the Poles are saying behind closed doors right now" Get me my brown pants.

Posted by: Otter O'bumble at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (gXRIG)

104 62 SCOAMF is Hart Bochner's character from Die Hard. Gay?

Posted by: Col. Larrick, USN at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (8c12T)

105 Poland? Da! Berlin? Da! You were saying about the history rhyming, comrade?

Posted by: Zombie Zhukov at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (kduZC)

106 F*** the EU Well, I am inclined to agree with that sentiment in general. The United States saved Europe's ass in two World Wars and the Cold War. Our military expenditures enabled them to build their lavish welfare states. By way of thanks, they've spent the last fifty years or so sneering at us for being warmongering cowboys. The EU was created in part to counter our economic "hegemony". The EU is also destroying the national cultures of its member states and is importing African Muslims as fast as possible. Anyone who objects is vilified as a racist. So yeah, "F*** the EU".

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (sdi6R)

107 I'd like to! I wouldn't say eww to the EU.

Posted by: Sandra Fluck at April 25, 2014 03:51 PM (2ArJQ)

108

80...We shall fight on FaceBook, we shall fight on Instagram and Pinterest, we shall fight with growing follower lists and growing Alexa ratings we shall defend our #hashtag, whatever the cost may be...

Posted by: ace at April 25, 2014 07:45 PM (/FnUH)

----------------

Heh.

Well, this is how he's fought against Republicans, Ace.

It's the only way he knows how to fight.

But Republicans are the perfect foe...they back down and cower when the O-media bashes them.

I guess Barky will stomp his foot and have a hissy fit, when Putin and China don't do the same thing.

Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (la7X9)

109 Everyone in NATO and EU are going "Game over man, we lost the #hashtag war."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (L8umz)

110 Obama spent his entire adult life -- from probably early teens on -- being the living embodiment of everything rich, white progressives wished they were -- ethnic, black, exotic, interesting, authentic, etc, etc, etc. They melted in front of him. He was everything hoped for, everything they wanted black people to be, everything they disliked about themselves with their privilege and whiteness. At what age did some rich, white progressive first tell Obama that he should be President? I'm sure in law school. Probably before then. Obama mistook the personal effect he had on rich, white progressives with their souls dripping with white guilt ... he thought that was some universal charisma he possessed. That all people would want to do what he says and feel cleansed by his presence and acceptance. But the rest of the world is not made up of rich, white chicks and pampered, pale dudes who feel guilty about being rich and white and are desperate for Obama's healing touch of forgiveness. I think Obama is honestly confused when people don't prostrate themselves the way the rich, white guilters do. He though he had some sort of magical powers and that his mesmerizing effect wasn't so demographically limited.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (ZPrif)

111 Again, Russian ships hanging out just off coast from me.

Not. Cool.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 07:26 PM (GEICT)

I think our base is #3 or 4 on their nuke list, if that makes you feel any better.

Posted by: pookysgirl at April 25, 2014 07:40 PM (tl+KL)

I can see Chicago from my house.

Well, I have to walk five doors to the intersection, but I can see it pretty clearly. Last I checked a nuclear strike on Chicago that doesn't end up out in Lake Michigan is going to pretty thoroughly ruin my day.

Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (hO9ad)

112 95 Heh.hehhehehehehehahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha! Stop it I can't breathe.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (QwwBH)

113 Get me my brown pants.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Posted by: Zombie Tom Clancy at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (Dwehj)

114 Romney wants to #BanTampons, please retweet. I approve this message!

Posted by: Alicia Silverstone at April 25, 2014 03:52 PM (TO9tz)

115 Mostly OT but, I have visited Poland, loved it.

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 03:53 PM (nTgAI)

116 well i hope Putin doesn't twitter Obamaa #earleader

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 03:53 PM (nqBYe)

117 What did Churchill know, he picked some American that had to have a women do his keyboard work to bring about an end to the war.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 25, 2014 03:54 PM (IV4od)

118 You know, if I were one of those paranoid types prone to conspiracy theories, I might think that when Obama was talking to Medvedev and telling him that he would have more flexibility after the election, that this is exactly what he was talking about. The reason that the Obama administration was unhappy with the EU is that they wanted to spread the apparent policy failure around. Instead of it just being Obama encouraging Ukraine to go rouge, and then doing nothing as Putin had his excuse to do what he wanted, Obama could paint the whole thing as a failure of the global community. But, since the EU wouldn't play along, Obama has no cover when anyone points to his apparent ineffectualness.

If I was paranoid.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 03:54 PM (IN7k+)

119 F***K the police...... I mean EUUUUUUUUUU!

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 03:55 PM (HzRFk)

120

Obama spent his entire adult life -- from probably early teens on -- being the living embodiment of everything rich, white progressives wished they were -- ethnic, black, exotic, interesting, authentic, etc, etc, etc.

They melted in front of him. He was everything hoped for, everything they wanted black people to be, everything they disliked about themselves with their privilege and whiteness.

At what age did some rich, white progressive first tell Obama that he should be President? I'm sure in law school. Probably before then.

Obama mistook the personal effect he had on rich, white progressives with their souls dripping with white guilt ... he thought that was some universal charisma he possessed. That all people would want to do what he says and feel cleansed by his presence and acceptance.

But the rest of the world is not made up of rich, white chicks and pampered, pale dudes who feel guilty about being rich and white and are desperate for Obama's healing touch of forgiveness.

I think Obama is honestly confused when people don't prostrate themselves the way the rich, white guilters do. He though he had some sort of magical powers and that his mesmerizing effect wasn't so demographically limited.

A man has to know his limitations - Clint "empty chair skit" Eastwood

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 03:55 PM (nTgAI)

121 look Obama went around the world apologizing for the Sins of america and how He was going to do a major transformation. and he has, from sea to shining sea, and within our borders. he's not dumb.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 03:55 PM (nqBYe)

122 So, what's the story now? Tampons make women dumber because it sucks out the juices of their brains?

Posted by: Col. Larrick, USN at April 25, 2014 03:55 PM (8c12T)

123 why is it paranoid to take Obama at his word?

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 03:56 PM (nqBYe)

124 So Republicans want to fuck the EU because they hate enlightened womyn??

Posted by: Low Information Voter at April 25, 2014 03:56 PM (pmsMR)

125 Has anyone sent ms Crowley to the Russian border to report on these developments?

Posted by: Jean at April 25, 2014 03:56 PM (Aqvh6)

126 122 So, what's the story now? Tampons make women dumber because it sucks out the juices of their brains? Posted by: Col. Larrick, USN at April 25, 2014 07:55 PM (8c12T) Well, the progfems say they should vote with their lady parts.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2014 03:57 PM (mx5oN)

127 Hagel can't get Russian defence minister on the phone. See the sock link.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 25, 2014 03:57 PM (gDHxV)

128 Right, Obama tells Russia he'll be "more flexible" after the election. 3 months after the election, Russia invaded Ukraine.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 25, 2014 03:57 PM (ZPrif)

129 122
So, what's the story now? Tampons make women dumber because it sucks out the juices of their brains?

Posted by: Col. Larrick, USN at April 25, 2014 07:55 PM (8c12T)

++++

It's amazing how science has been able to make those things so absorbent.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 03:57 PM (IN7k+)

130 While we are praying for Eastern Europe, pray for the 600 trip wires this administration sent to four Baltic states.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 25, 2014 03:57 PM (L8umz)

131 WZ had an article that says Putin has cut off communications with Barky

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 03:58 PM (nTgAI)

132 I could have told them a lot of differences between this administration and the last, as well. The Ukrainians should have denounced George W. Bush and his "failed" policies, sucked the angry inch of this Down Low administration and announced unity with, and support of, the Muslim Brotherhood. Oh, and thrown in that the GOP is racist and waging a war on women. That would have gotten them a lot more help from the US.

Posted by: Muhammar Khaddaffi at April 25, 2014 03:58 PM (q7DBM)

133 The Jackhole , that is an EXCELLENT summary of obama and the left's view of him.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 03:58 PM (HzRFk)

134 Don't worry, Barry has stuff tee'd up.

Just as long as he's not wee-wee'd up.

Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 03:58 PM (hO9ad)

135 andy; did it say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWNaR-rxAic call me maybe

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 03:59 PM (nqBYe)

136 Hagel can't get Russian defence minister on the phone.

Not to worry. Jen is on the secure Kremlin Twitter feed as we speak.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 25, 2014 03:59 PM (Dwehj)

137 AndyCanuck, knowing this administration. Hagel was given the wrong number. He got Madame Natalya's House of Style probably, style that charges by the hour and in hard currency like the Euro.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 25, 2014 03:59 PM (L8umz)

138 130 WZ had an article that says Putin has cut off communications with Barky Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 07:58 PM (nTgAI) That can't be good.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2014 03:59 PM (mx5oN)

139 115 Mostly OT but, I have visited Poland, loved it. What's not to love? Those polish building fall down so nice after we got done with them. Stuka's? Meh. Hitler was a piker. You want rubble? Try the 155mm howitzer! Ah... Artillery is the queen of the battlefield, comrade? And, those who survived made such good blintzes with sour cream.

Posted by: Zombie Zhukov at April 25, 2014 04:00 PM (kduZC)

140 The Jackhole, that is an EXCELLENT summary of obama and the left's view of him.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 07:58 PM (HzRFk)

That was Flatbush Joe, I just added the comment at the end. I didn't paste it right.

It is a good synopsis though

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 04:00 PM (nTgAI)

141 "I mean in a way ObamaÂ’s standing above the country, above Â– above the world, heÂ’s sort of God." --- Evan Thomas, Newsweek (RIP) editor, '09 Obama isn't the only one who thinks his words can move mountains.

Posted by: The Barbed Cock of Satan at April 25, 2014 04:00 PM (8d82l)

142 Anon Y. Mous, a gay male acquaintance has told me it is not uncommon for "bottoms" to use them after a "rough" night of fun IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 04:01 PM (HzRFk)

143 just got this email from Winston Churchill: Posted by: ace at April 25, 2014 07:45 PM (/FnUH) **** Channeling Churchill, Ace blogs, tweets & swears

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 25, 2014 04:01 PM (MKpBT)

144 ... Romney wants to #BanTampons, please retweet. *sniff* That was beautiful, man.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 25, 2014 04:01 PM (0HooB)

145 I guess you think I'm tweetin' at you, Vlad. But it ain't so. What I'm doing is talking, you hear? I'm talking to all those villains down there in Iran. I'm talking to all those villains in Afghanistan. And all those villains down there in Syria. And what I'm saying is "Don't call my bluff." And if they did, how they could handle what follows anyhow.

Posted by: Little Bill Obama at April 25, 2014 04:02 PM (jnG1p)

146 Just back from fish fry. Ace's writing is top notch today. Winston Churchill cracked me up.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:02 PM (HVff2)

147 Look son, being a good tweeter, being quick with a hashtag, that don't do no harm, but it don't mean much next to being cool-headed. A man who will keep his head and not get rattled, like as not, he'll school ya. It ain't so easy to out-tweet a man anyhow, especially if the son-of-a-bitch is shootin' back at you.

Posted by: Little Bill Obama at April 25, 2014 04:02 PM (jnG1p)

148 Ah... Artillery is the queen of the battlefield, comrade? King. King of the battlefield.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 25, 2014 04:03 PM (TNcMy)

149 Yes it's true. This man has no dick.

Posted by: Dr. Peter Venkman at April 25, 2014 04:03 PM (/Ido6)

150 110 --- THIS.....(and well said!)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 25, 2014 04:04 PM (dfYL9)

151 141 Anon Y. Mous, a gay male acquaintance has told me it is not uncommon for "bottoms" to use them after a "rough" night of fun IYKWIMAITYD. Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 08:01 PM (HzRFk) Yeah, I really did not need to know that.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2014 04:05 PM (mx5oN)

152 #seriousyouguys

Posted by: wooga at April 25, 2014 04:05 PM (/Ido6)

153 in fairness to the eu, although they don't seserve it for backstabbing us so many times. they have to have the gas.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 04:05 PM (nqBYe)

154 "Freedom"? That Yang worship tweet. Only chiefs may tweet #freedom.

Posted by: chief cloud william at April 25, 2014 04:05 PM (gDHxV)

155 @Ace "I don't want to go to war with Russia, either." Disclaimer: My wife is russian. Have friends who are russian. They all b*tch about Putin, but they are all behind regarding the Crimeria. They are not so whole hearted about seizing Eastern Urkaine, but if russians troops went in they would stand with him. BTW.. Putin's internal poll numbers are higher than they have been years. The world simply knows JEF and his crew are chumps. Third rate grifters who hit the jack pot. GW Bush, love or hate him.. Putin would not be pulling this crap, but it probably wouldn't have gotten this far out of control. Russians do not want to go to war with America either, however Putin knows Russia's strengths and weaknesses and calculates the risks and he will get what he wants. Obama will continue being exposed as the unqualified simp we all know that he is.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (/CIT0)

156 137 130 WZ had an article that says Putin has cut off communications with Barky Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 07:58 PM (nTgAI) That can't be good. Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2014 07:59 PM (mx5oN) I disagree with you. Think about it, what has TFG accomplished with open communications? Be good or I will send big fucking deal Biden to Kiev? Obama dropped the ball months ago, it's a fumble he will never recover.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (HVff2)

157 "This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. "

Posted by: Zombie Fred... at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (gXRIG)

158 A man has to know his limitations - Clint "empty chair skit" Eastwood

Posted by: The Jackhole

"A man's got to know his 140 character limit" - Obama, 1000 more days of this.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (ujux6)

159 "Hagel can't get Russian defence minister on the phone. See the sock link."

Pretty doubtful that Upchuck could even get Domino's Pizza on the phone.

Dumbest and worst SECDEF in history, and that's saying something.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (noWW6)

160 OK twiterers and twiterees, #supperscalling Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 25, 2014 04:06 PM (0HooB)

161 We're all cakeboys now.

Posted by: Richard Nixon at April 25, 2014 04:07 PM (eAJwE)

162 @31: "What exactly is gonna stop Putin from pushing west to Poland? Red lines and empty threats?"

You may see it written that we can't *win* a war, but you'll never see it written that we can't *fight* one.

Posted by: The Polish Army at April 25, 2014 04:08 PM (jnG1p)

163
How far will Putin get with what's left of the USSRs army before he runs out of tanks or vodka.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 25, 2014 04:08 PM (DL2i+)

164 Wow, Flatbush at 110 provided a great explanation for Obama that does not require imputing ill motive, narcissism, secret socialism, or what have you. Occam's razor.

Posted by: wooga at April 25, 2014 04:08 PM (/Ido6)

165

I guess it's about time for something tall, dark and foamy.

Beer guys, seriously I mean beer

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 04:08 PM (nTgAI)

166 123 why is it paranoid to take Obama at his word?

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 07:56 PM (nqBYe)

++++

Well, to say all the following:
1. There was an agreement between Russia and Obama back in March of 2012 that after the US election, the West, led by Obama, would encourage anti-Russian protesters to bring about the fall of the pro-Russian government of Ukraine.
2. In response to this planned upon West-encouraged unrest in Ukraine, Russia would take the Crimea (and more?) and that the West would do some harrumphing, but not much more.

Some would say that there is no evidence of this conspiracy theory and that anyone speculating in that direction is just paranoid.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 04:10 PM (IN7k+)

167 WZ had an article that says Putin has cut off communications with Barky

Is that for show or is Putin at the 'pissed in cornflakes' stage of responding to Obama's Ukrainian revolution (as the Russians claim to perceive it)?

Posted by: Methos at April 25, 2014 04:11 PM (hO9ad)

168 155 @Ace "I don't want to go to war with Russia, either. ------ Face it, we won't. Obama let North Korea blast away on the 4th of July without consequences. Remember the red line with Syria? Obama is a gutless little prick who lives behind drone attacks and federal agencies, IRS, BLM, etc. Putin is a man with balls & fucking Obama cowers. War? I think not

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:11 PM (HVff2)

169 Putin takes Ukraine and then the rest of Eastern Europe..over/under a year? Two?

Posted by: Jmel at April 25, 2014 04:11 PM (cfFqn)

170 Meanwhile McCain will host Hillary in Arizona, see Drudge. This must result in immediate expulsion from the Republican Party. Democrats would never countenance the same.

Posted by: Decaf at April 25, 2014 04:12 PM (CnbGs)

171 bring your tweets O'ButtBoy

Posted by: Putin at April 25, 2014 04:12 PM (GYg/s)

172 You may see it written that we can't *win* a war, but you'll never see it written that we can't *fight* one.

Posted by: The Polish Army at April 25, 2014 08:08 PM (jnG1p)

Yeah, but remember Vienna - The Hussars

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 25, 2014 04:13 PM (nTgAI)

173

Insomniac, you anti-multiculti bigot! /

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 04:14 PM (myiTy)

174 So, at our house we always do a big, traditional Greek Orthodox Easter and invite a lot of our friends plus some of the foreign students at the university where my mom teaches (Math, not "humanities") who don't go home for the holiday. Anyway, this year Western and Orthodox Easter was on the same date, so none of our American friends came (other family obligations) but all the foreign students did. 2 girls are from Russia (here on Basketball scholarships), 1 girl is from Latvia (Volleyball scholarship), and 2 of the girls are from Germany (Volleyball scholarships). The 2 from Russia and the 1 from Latvia (a state that was once under rule by the USSR) asked us what we thought of Putin -- they have a bad opinion of him (the Latvian girl for obvious reasons, but I was surprised the Russian girls would too because he's allegedly popular back home, but then I remembered these 18 and 19 year girls have come half-way around the world on the HOPE of become pro-ball players to *get away* from there) saying they thought Putin was going to start WW3. The 2 German girls were pretty smug about being "on Germany's side" in a kind of "what is America going to do about it?" kind of way, so I looked the 2 German girls right in the eye and said "You know what? Everyone else in the world has been complaining for a long time now about what a 'bully" America is, so it's going to serve them all right to see what happens when America isn't the so-called bully to see what kind of bully they'll get. Everyone is going to be wishing to have America to lead -- or be the "bully" again -- and they aren't going to get that with Obama." The 2 smirks on the German girls' faces disappeared but the Russian and Latvian girls were in total agreement, with one of the Russian girls saying "You are so right -- because without America to stop it, another bully will take that place in the world -- and Putin is jumping in to fill the void."

Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 25, 2014 04:14 PM (FDGeg)

175 Wow, Flatbush at 110 provided a great explanation for Obama that does not require imputing ill motive, narcissism, secret socialism, or what have you. Occam's razor.

Posted by: wooga

Except it is a description of Obama's narcissism.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at April 25, 2014 04:15 PM (ujux6)

176 141 Anon Y. Mous, a gay male acquaintance has told me it is not uncommon for "bottoms" to use them after a "rough" night of fun IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 08:01 PM (HzRFk)

++++

Ummm, I have no knowledge of those practices. I suppose I could speculate about the conversations (and other interactions) you may have had with your gay friend(s), but I don't think I want to go there.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 04:15 PM (IN7k+)

177 Obama, today : "I think itÂ’s fair to say that one of my jobs as president is to ~~worry about~~ create a bunch of different problems at once.." Okay, I edited that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 25, 2014 04:16 PM (aDwsi)

178 "A man has to know his limitations - Clint "empty chair skit" Eastwood " Oh, he knows and so do the palace guard - the media, that's why anyone who says so will be forced to recant.

Posted by: Decaf at April 25, 2014 04:18 PM (CnbGs)

179 174 take that place in the world -- and Putin is jumping in to fill the void." Posted by: Dancing Queen at April I learned a long time ago, nature hates a vacuum. Thanks for sharing your story

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:18 PM (HVff2)

180 No great country elects Barack Hussein Obama twice - TWICE!

Posted by: Kreplach at April 25, 2014 04:18 PM (Xkr8I)

181 WZ had an article that says Putin has cut off communications with Barky You can turn Twitter off?

Posted by: t-bird at April 25, 2014 04:19 PM (FcR7P)

182 It occurs to me that beyond liberal screech campaigns, liberals have no real power. Bundy and the Putin affair prove it out. We should simply disregard their outrage as the tantrums of dumb people, and ignore the stupid laws they pass in the name of social justice. They have no counter to civil disobedience.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 25, 2014 04:19 PM (Hw3Gh)

183

Anon Y. Mous, I was not suggesting anything about you, just to be clear. I meant that as we are adults, we learn things we would rather not.

When I replied WTF I was laughed at for being naive. Silly me.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 04:20 PM (myiTy)

184 "No great country elects Barack Hussein Obama twice - TWICE!" Sigh.

Posted by: Decaf at April 25, 2014 04:21 PM (CnbGs)

185 When Obama did his world tour after being elected, I truly believe that he was convinced that when they heard him, the world would insist that he be leader of he world. This is a guy who looks in the mirror and cums all over himself. Just sayin'....but otherwise a nice guy.

Posted by: Guido at April 25, 2014 04:22 PM (GYg/s)

186 Will Ubama betray eastern Europe? Freaking yeah, he will. But, hey. Putin is a smart guy, and Russia learned a lot about muslims in Afghanistan. Putin knows how to handle muslims. Say what we will about him being a new Russian dictator, he knows how to handle muslims. Anybody need an explanation of the counterweight principle? Russia lost more military/civilian population in WW2 than anybody else. Out on a limb here maybe, but I say muslims are the nazis 3.0 version, 2014-style.

Posted by: Erowmero at April 25, 2014 04:22 PM (go5uR)

187 #183, no problem!

Posted by: anon a mouse at April 25, 2014 04:23 PM (gXRIG)

188 Posted by: Guido at April 25, 2014 08:22 PM (GYg/s) You forget the sarc tag on the nice guy thing?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:23 PM (HVff2)

189

Barky was raised to hate America.

His mother hated America.

His father hated America.

His stepfather hates America.

His 'Uncle Frank' Marshall hated America.

Everything he has done...has weakened this country.

He's weakened our economy, our military, destroyed our space program and is destroying our healthcare system.

To Barky, bringing America to its knees is the ultimate Social Justice.

To think of what he's done as "failures" is foolish.

He's doing it on purpose.

Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 04:24 PM (la7X9)

190 Yes thanks, I guess I'm just not as smart as Obama. /sarc

Posted by: Guido at April 25, 2014 04:25 PM (GYg/s)

191 I don't think anything Putin has done has been inevitable. He could have allowed Ukraine to align with the EU, as international law requires him to do, and still gouge the EU for gas. It is precisely because the EU has no capacity for warfare that it can be tolerated to extend to the borders of Russia. What this debacle has revealed is that Putin is such a megalomaniac that he imagines he is heir to the Soviet Union and all its populations. And that requires a serious contingency plan for defeating the Russian army. I don't think Obama has one. I seriously suspect the Army doesn't either. And unless they are prepared for the failure of their moderating escalations, there's no point launching escalations.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 25, 2014 04:25 PM (5xmd7)

192 Tilikum: I was wondering how you meant that IYKWIMAITYD part. Glad to hear my reputation is still intact.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 04:25 PM (IN7k+)

193 Posted by: Guido at April 25, 2014 08:25 PM (GYg/s) That's ok buddy in print it seemed quite believable

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:26 PM (HVff2)

194 "182 It occurs to me that beyond liberal screech campaigns, liberals have no real power. Bundy and the Putin affair prove it out. We should simply disregard their outrage as the tantrums of dumb people, and ignore the stupid laws they pass in the name of social justice. They have no counter to civil disobedience." Good strategy in small things where they don't have a phalanx of heavily armed troops arrayed against you. On the other hand, why not go with it, isn't this how they won the 60s?

Posted by: Decaf at April 25, 2014 04:26 PM (CnbGs)

195

No one will be happier than me when #prezmomjeans reign is over

Posted by: keena at April 25, 2014 04:27 PM (RiTnx)

196 If Russia is not checked we can expect China to do the same damn thing. They also want territory from their neighbors. Also, they'd prefer the US Navy stage from Hawaii. And if we're not going to defend Japanese, Filipino or South Korean territory, why should they continue to suffer the internal dissent created by a US military presence? Especially since they can make billions by cooperating with Beijing?

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 25, 2014 04:27 PM (5xmd7)

197 Posted by: anon a mouse at April 25, 2014 08:23 PM (gXRIG)

++++

Ha! Pretender.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 04:28 PM (IN7k+)

198 "Shit Churchill Tweeted" is my favorite bathroom book.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 04:29 PM (VX05i)

199 I thought I heard something today about Poland and the Czech republic wanting the missile defense batteries that JEF canceled to be put back on the table? Gee, I wonder why.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 04:30 PM (vVSOO)

200 The EU is more limp than Harry Reid's penis at the Playboy mansion.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 04:30 PM (myiTy)

201 Posted by: Chris_Balsz at April 25, 2014 08:27 PM (5xmd7) My God, you sound like Romney & his Cold War rants. J/k

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:30 PM (HVff2)

202 I was just going to congratulate Ace on his brilliant Churchill email parody (pasted in below), but then I went and saw what the DNC and WhiteHouse and "DiploMutt"'s twitter feeds were actually like and I instantly became frozen with fear and psychic agony. This would be funny if we were merely making fun of "progressive" activist-buffoons and assorted online trolls. But these particular buffoons and trolls are the leaders of the free world and have 100% of the actual political power in this nation. Beneath the nervous guffaws is true terror. It's not that the lunatics have taken over the asylum: The tweeners have taken over the high school. Ace's brilliant-but-suicide-inducing Churchill parody reposted for the record: ---------------------------- Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of rising Russia and all the odious apparatus of the KGB state, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight on FaceBook, we shall fight on Instagram and Pinterest, we shall fight and, with growing follower lists and growing Likes, we shall defend our #hashtag, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on Twitter, we shall fight on Vine, we shall fight on the Washington Post's op-ed pages and in the New York Times' comment areas, we shall fight in Buzzfeed's gifs; we shall never surrender. And if, which I do not for a moment believe, this #hashtag or a large part of it were hijacked by trolls, then our social media reach, armed and guarded by the writers at Media Matters and the Daily Beast, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, some miracle should descend upon us in rescue us so we can return, as we much desire, to the #WarOnWomen. Romney wants to #BanTampons, please retweet.

Posted by: zombie at April 25, 2014 04:30 PM (mizYg)

203 189 destroyed our space program Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 08:24 PM (la7X9) I don't blame him for that. Our space program, at least the human spaceflight part, has been in pretty sad shape for years.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2014 04:31 PM (sdi6R)

204

@55 The Polish Order of Battle

http://www.globalsecurity.org/ military/world/europe/pl-army-orbat.htm

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Based on the Equipment subsection, it appears that the information there is from 1992. Which would make it about 20 years out of date. It's possible that not much has changed since then, but there also might be some very big differences.

Posted by: junior at April 25, 2014 04:31 PM (UWFpX)

205 Well, he's certainly been more flexible since the election.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 04:31 PM (VX05i)

206 Hey Ace, why not run a VA horror story thread. I am so sick of our men and women that have been in uniform getting fucked over by these guys. Here's mine it's not horrific but it really did happen and it pisses me off to this day. My ex was Navy. She had a tooth pulled and the govt. was supposed to fix it. So we are living in Chicago and she was naturalizing. On the very fucking day she did the citizenship thing we decide to hop off the train on the way home and go to the VA to look into finishing her dental work. We meet a receptionist and ask some questions about scheduling etc. Later we get a bill from the VA for a couple of hundred bucks for lab work and X-Rays. We did not do any of that. I was there and I know we talked to a receptionist and left. My ex was at the time 6 months pregnant with my son. The bill specifically said x-rays. A rationale person might think I'm exaggerating so I'm focusing on that point. There is no way either of us would have agreed to an x-ray knowing that she was carrying our unborn son. So she argued with the VA for months and they kept saying that their records showed yada yada. In the end they took the money out of our tax return and there was nothing we could do about it. I wrote my congressman and my senator but never received a reply. Those scum bags bilked us and they are bilking vets to this day.

Posted by: bestie21 at April 25, 2014 04:32 PM (qifmL)

207 205 Well, he's certainly been more flexible since the election. Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 08:31 PM (VX05i) That's what Reggie says

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:32 PM (HVff2)

208

I cannot suggest my fellow morons are worldly? Damn.

One cannot know without experiencing?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 04:32 PM (myiTy)

209

205 Well, he's certainly been more flexible since the election.

Except with Republicans...he's very rigid with them.

Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 04:35 PM (la7X9)

210 179 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 08:18 PM You're welcome. Another interesting tidbit I got as we were discussing how Obama thinks he can "charm" people into doing things, which is fine for classroom discussions, but doesn't work in the real world when you are facing people like Putin (or radical Islam, etc) and that the time to start was way back with the Georgia conflict and not to draw "red lines" with other places like Syria that he had no intention of keeping, I jokingly said "Because no one wants to try to invade Russia --Napoleon couldn't do it; Hitler couldn't do it; because the Russians don't play -- they will burn their cities to the ground and wait for winter." To which the two Russian girls emphatically replied "No, no not -- it's not like that anymore. The people now aren't tough like that -- they're weak and lazy and spoiled." So at least Russia is also dealing with a generation of Pajamaboys too.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 25, 2014 04:36 PM (FDGeg)

211 209 205 Well, he's certainly been more flexible since the election.

Except with Republicans...he's very rigid with them.

Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 08:35 PM (la7X9)

++++

It pays to remember who your real enemies are.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 25, 2014 04:37 PM (IN7k+)

212 Bring out the gimp Obama.

Posted by: Zed Putin at April 25, 2014 04:37 PM (dvRYt)

213

206...Posted by: bestie21 at April 25, 2014 08:32 PM (qifmL)

Arrgh, that's terrible, bestie.

Posted by: wheatie at April 25, 2014 04:38 PM (la7X9)

214 Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 25, 2014 08:36 PM (FDGeg) Where are the Russian girls from, country or city? Just curious about their thought process.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:40 PM (HVff2)

215 So at least Russia is also dealing with a generation of Pajamaboys too.
Also krokodil users.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 25, 2014 04:40 PM (gDHxV)

216 So at least Russia is also dealing with a generation of Pajamaboys too.
But they pass out drunk and spend the night outside in those pajamas.

Posted by: fluffy at April 25, 2014 04:40 PM (Ua6T/)

217 which is fine for classroom discussions, but doesn't work in the real world Where have we seen this before.... Where? Hmmmm...

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 25, 2014 04:40 PM (L5H2v)

218 You might've noticed something about obama, by now -- he's a saint by proxy. What I mean by that is obama is always championing many causes, but does so from afar, or with other people's money, or with other people's blood. For example, obama supposedly tried to bring democracy to Syria...and got a lot of people killed. And here is obama supposedly trying to save Ukraine's sovereignty by egging them on to rebel...and getting lots of Ukrainians killed. obama, as you all know, sickens me. i know his type. And obama's type is the worst kind of snake in human form. obama is a leech; a bloodsucker with devotees. obama's type do 'great things.' Don't believe me? Just ask obama; he'll tell you. Never mind all death and suffering and misery in his wake.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 04:41 PM (DxThd)

219 Evening fappers. It's a good thing I'm drinking. Normally this sort of thing would send me into fucking orbit with rage. Now, I'm just shrugging and thinking....wel yeah, that's about right for this bunch of mewling quims.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2014 04:41 PM (Pvcl5)

220 Foreign policy aptitude by pant crease evaluation is a tried and true method. Serious you guys.

Posted by: David Brooks at April 25, 2014 04:43 PM (dvRYt)

221 If we have WWIII, I get to stay in office until I die, right? Like Roosevelt?

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 25, 2014 04:43 PM (j0wOO)

222 214 -- One girl is from Moscow, but her mother and father are originally from St. Petersburg and moved to Moscow right after she was born. The other girl was from a very small place in Northern Russia -- she said I wouldn't know it, but I asked her to tell me the name anyway and not only had I not heard of it, I can't even remember it now.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 25, 2014 04:44 PM (FDGeg)

223 220 Foreign policy aptitude by pant crease evaluation is a tried and true method. Serious you guys. Posted by: David Brooks at April 25, 2014 08:43 PM (dvRYt) ...because science.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 25, 2014 04:44 PM (L5H2v)

224

DC in Towson, fapping? I don't think so.

How can I with the plight of the gay hampsters over in Zimbabwe?

Have you no soul?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 04:45 PM (myiTy)

225 Zed = Putin Gimp = Obama Ukraine = Ving Rhames There's no Butch in this version.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at April 25, 2014 04:45 PM (dvRYt)

226 OK, just channeling my inner Tom Clancy, here's what I think will happen between now and 2017. Putin takes eastern Ukraine, western Ukraine collapses and Putin moves in. Belarus, already lead by an old hard line Communist, aligns with Putin. Putin decides that he wants the Baltic states and foments revolution in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. The Baltic states revert to Russian rule because the EU is dickless and they don't have as many tanks and tubes as Russia and he knows that Obama is also dickless and won't do anything. They ignore Poland for the time being, knowing that there might be a fight. After the next election, if (God forbid) Shrillary is elected, Poland is next on the menu with Germany and the Czech Republic not far behind. Hungary, Romania, Austria, and all the Balkan states see which way the wind is blowing fall into the New Soviet sphere. Greece follows. The only wild cards I can see in the whole scenario are Poland and Germany. Both hate the Russians, but what kind of a fight will they put up?

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 04:46 PM (vVSOO)

227 well, this would explain why the State Department never called me in for an interview when i applied for a position there...

%-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 25, 2014 04:47 PM (q+fqH)

228 222 interesting both city & country kids think the same.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:47 PM (HVff2)

229 213 wheatie At the time we didn't have a lot of money but in time that worked out. In time I could afford to just fix the tooth myself and we absorbed the bill. Imagine someone with real injuries that depends on these guys for health care though. It infuriates me. I could pay for her tooth but what does a vet with serious injury do? I don't feel that it's a partisan argument. The VA is broken and corrupt. Both then Dems and the GOP need to step up and fix it.

Posted by: bestie21 at April 25, 2014 04:48 PM (qifmL)

230 Not Germany. No way

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 04:48 PM (zOTsN)

231 225 Pretty sure these idiots think Biden is Butch. The shame of it is that nimrod is the closest thing to an adult in the entire administration.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 04:48 PM (QwwBH)

232 >>>How can I with the plight of the gay hampsters over in Zimbabwe? I go to work for a few days and miss a new meme? Or are you creating one out of thin air, like AtC did with "baby lambs"?

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2014 04:48 PM (Pvcl5)

233 At the printing shop where I work, we've been getting a lot of copier repairmen who are Russian. Not sure why that is.

Posted by: rickl at April 25, 2014 04:49 PM (sdi6R)

234 No war. Putin will take what he wants and we will watch.... and Twitter our disapproval like an autistic kid with ADHD. Will he take Poland? If he wants it. Never underestimate how ugly the locals can make it for the Russians. Expanding like this will create insurgencies that Putin won't know how to deal with.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 25, 2014 04:49 PM (jucos)

235 Peach hate shake. Because

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 04:49 PM (zOTsN)

236 I wonder who changes Biden's diaper?

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 04:49 PM (myiTy)

237 President Choad-Load has a NAA mini-revolver in his vagina and a Russian dick in his ass... by choice. Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action... While the exact details may not have been planned, this is part and parcel of the dismantling of Western power and influence. It's deliberate destruction. His owners make more money and gather more power in chaos than in stability. Useful idiots and craven traitors are easy to find, breed, or create. Welcome to the 21st Century. We fools have allowed ourselves to be destroyed.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 25, 2014 04:50 PM (W7zKe)

238 The left's response to everything: Someone should do something!!! No one told Obama yet the the President is "someone".

Posted by: Damiano at April 25, 2014 04:50 PM (j0wOO)

239 Not Germany. No way
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Why not? Do they have the national will to resist? This is a country that shut down its nuclear reactors to "go green" and are now having to build a bunch of coal plants just to keep there electricity on. The socialist hive mind is getting strong in that country.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 04:51 PM (vVSOO)

240 Look, the fact of the matter is this: Obama's base is not America, it's urban America. Most of the core Democrat base would not vote to defend Idaho from Putin, much less Poland or even Canada (except maybe the parts that have good skiing.)

Posted by: JEM at April 25, 2014 04:51 PM (o+SC1)

241 Putin decides that he wants the Baltic states and foments revolution in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. I realize they have little militarily, but I thought the Baltics were fairly stable and doing well economically. However, perhaps bowing to the inevitable.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 25, 2014 04:51 PM (L5H2v)

242

DC in Towson, you don't know of their struggle?

Freaking caveman.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 04:51 PM (myiTy)

243 228 222 interesting both city & country kids think the same. Well, they are the only 2 Russian girls at the university right now, so they are also each other's closest friends -- I'm sure they have discussed this between the two of them and you know (especially at that age -- 18/19 years old) your BFF can influence the way you see things a lot. SO it could be that the country girl influenced the city girl or vice versa.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 25, 2014 04:52 PM (FDGeg)

244 236 I wonder who changes Biden's diaper? Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 08:49 PM (myiTy) Dr Jill and his CNA. But sometimes he try's and flings it like the fucking monkey he is.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:52 PM (HVff2)

245 20 Again, Russian ships hanging out just off coast from me. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 25, 2014 07:26 PM (GEICT) BC ..One .. Ping ... Only

Posted by: Capt Ramius at April 25, 2014 04:53 PM (aTXUx)

246 re #206: i served for over 20 years in the Guard & Army Reserve, and am currently a member of the Retired Reserve (in case the PRC ever invades at Santa Monica, i will be manning an LP/OP on Mulholland Drive)

i went to the local VA and applied to receive care for some of the non-trivial injuries i incurred while in uniform.

the response, which i only got over the phone, because almost two years later i've yet to receive a letter, was that, since i hadn't done any long periods on AD, through no fault of mine, i wasn't *really* a veteran, and therefore i wasn't entitled to any care or benefits.

Shitsiki should be taken out and slowly strangled with one of his worthless black berets on a live stream web event. i'll be happy to donate mine to the cause...

useless stupid mendoucheous buddy fucking twatwaffle that he is.

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 25, 2014 04:54 PM (q+fqH)

247 Posted by: JEM at April 25, 2014 08:51 PM (o+SC1) I would stick up for andycanuck, he seems to be a standup moron

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 04:55 PM (HVff2)

248 Germany has money. Germany make the rules in most of Europe these days economically. Russia will take exactly as much as they can without provoking Germany into a direct conflict

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 04:55 PM (zOTsN)

249 Whoever said upthread that Biden is the adult in this administration is right. Think about that...... Biden. We are so fucked.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 25, 2014 04:56 PM (jucos)

250 Zed = Putin Gimp = Obama Ukraine = Ving Rhames There's no Butch in this version. Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at April 25, 2014 08:45 PM (dvRYt) Obama: You okay? Ukraine: Naw man. I'm pretty fuckin' far from okay.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 04:56 PM (yz6yg)

251 Putin, I'm just gonna take, Georgia, and Crimea, and perhaps Latvia, than Poland Obama, well so, I got almost free abortions for my buddies girlfriends!

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 04:56 PM (nqBYe)

252 Bcochran, watch out i think they are checking out your wife's legs.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 04:57 PM (nqBYe)

253 BC ..One .. Ping ... Only Posted by: Capt Ramius at April 25, 2014 08:53 PM (aTXUx) Funny, I watched that on demand last night. Still a great movie.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 04:57 PM (yz6yg)

254 Putin, 'Hey Poland, c'mere.'

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 04:58 PM (nqBYe)

255 Didn't Kerry say global warming was out greatest foreign policy threat?

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 04:59 PM (zOTsN)

256 Misanthropic Humanitarian, they have poo shields and sedatives for such a situation.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 04:59 PM (myiTy)

257 I realize they have little militarily, but I thought the Baltics were fairly stable and doing well economically. However, perhaps bowing to the inevitable.
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They are also NATO members, but can the EU and NATO match the number of tubes and tanks that Russia has anymore. I don't know and I'm too lazy to look it up. Not sure about the numbers of air forces. France is France. I doubt that the French will deign to get involved. Britain just mothballed their last aircraft carrier because they can no longer afford to pay for operating it. If the US were to react, it would take weeks to move armor to Europe by sea, and if the Russians already had neutralized British air power, what do you think the odds of getting American troops and weapons to Europe are? Slim and none.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 04:59 PM (vVSOO)

258 anyway we can snark from over yonder, but imagine how all the previous eastern bloc countries feel about now.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 04:59 PM (nqBYe)

259 255 I'll tell you what this means: No size restrictions and screw the limit. Posted by: Fishing boat observations at April 25, 2014 08:58 PM (Ks4nX) Far Side FTW!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2014 04:59 PM (mx5oN)

260 Do you think China is watching this and planning their own expansion? If I were Japan, Taiwan and Vietnam, I would be looking over my shoulder...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 25, 2014 05:00 PM (32Scy)

261 anyway we can snark from over yonder, but imagine how all the previous eastern bloc countries feel about now. Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 08:59 PM (nqBYe) 173d ABCT is on the ground in Poland right now. For all the good that will do. Too littleÂ…too late. And our fucking State Department thinks they're still in high school. 'Scuse me, I need to go shop for some ammo.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:01 PM (yz6yg)

262 A missile defense system sure would've been a deterrent

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 05:02 PM (zOTsN)

263 Crotcheity , guess there is no time like the present.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 05:02 PM (nqBYe)

264 259 anyway we can snark from over yonder, but imagine how all the previous eastern bloc countries feel about now. Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 08:59 PM (nqBYe) Yeah Willow, it really does suck to be them. The lesson is to arm yourself and never give up your arms. Boy did Senators Lugar & Obama fuck Ukraine

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 05:03 PM (HVff2)

265 @248 - that's exactly it. The Russians thought they had the Germans dealt with when they bought the last German government, but the current bunch - despite the Green influence, disastrous energy policies, and the Euro drain - hasn't stayed bought.

Posted by: JEM at April 25, 2014 05:03 PM (o+SC1)

266 I'm watching last week's Vikings episode. What's wrong with Ragnar's baby? Is he deformed?

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 05:03 PM (DxThd)

267 Sean, it's amazing to be alive right now. and by amazing i mean i'm not liking it much.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 05:03 PM (nqBYe)

268 China is fapping to what Russia is doing.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 05:04 PM (myiTy)

269 Sean, it's amazing to be alive right now. and by amazing i mean i'm not liking it much. Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 09:03 PM (nqBYe) Word.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:04 PM (yz6yg)

270 elected twice. simply amamzing.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 05:04 PM (nqBYe)

271 >>>Still a great movie. Then I will live in Montana. I will marry a round American woman, and raise rabbits. And she will cook them for me.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2014 05:04 PM (Pvcl5)

272 You know that old metaphor about "not poking the bear with a stick to see if it's asleep, because you might wake it up"? Well, Putin just poked Obama with a stick. He woke up, but all that happened was his motionless stuffed form bleated, "Teddy Bear is sad! Teddy Bear is sad....", and then the string rewound all the way and he fell silent again.

Posted by: zombie at April 25, 2014 05:04 PM (mizYg)

273 Maybe for a second of feel goodness. Obamagod wanted the Olympics in Chicago. His minions thought it was a done deal. Remember the reaction when Chicago was out in the first round? Imagine the skimming the would have occurred if Chicago would have actually won the bid.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 25, 2014 05:04 PM (A98Xu)

274 263 A missile defense system sure would've been a deterrent
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Yes and no. Worthless against a ground based attack, but if we had gone ahead and installed it, it's the kind of thing that might have given Putin pause. It would have meant that the US supported their allies and still had a pair.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 05:05 PM (vVSOO)

275 @258 - those may be the rules of the game Putin's playing, but the State Dept couldn't find it in the App Store so as far as they're concerned it doesn't exist.

Posted by: JEM at April 25, 2014 05:05 PM (o+SC1)

276 @182 Bevel Lemelisk "They have no counter to civil disobedience." Astute observation. I had a black professor make the same comment, over beers, after the LA Rodney King riots. "The police simply disappeared. They have no real control." I just got out of the Army around that time and some buds of mine told me troops out of Ft. Lewis were sent down to quell it.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 25, 2014 05:05 PM (/CIT0)

277 If I were Japan, Taiwan and Vietnam, I would be looking over my shoulder... Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 25, 2014 09:00 PM (32Scy) ****** If I were Japan at least, I would have all components for Tac Nucs all together at one location for fast assembly. We've now shown the world that we won't live up to our protective agreements.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 05:06 PM (ojnk6)

278 Our emperor has no clothes

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 05:06 PM (zOTsN)

279 LFW, i would say that was The signal to Russia, they already took Georgia and Obama signal'd You're good to go.

Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 05:06 PM (nqBYe)

280

But dems LOVE America.....Buwahahahahahahahaha....

Whhhoooooo, I think I hurt myself.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 05:07 PM (myiTy)

281 279 Our emperor has no clothes Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 09:06 PM (zOTsN) Or balls, or spine, or sense of history....... Feel free to add

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 05:07 PM (HVff2)

282 elected twice. simply amamzing. Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 09:04 PM (nqBYe) This is why I don't feel bad for anyone who voted for Obama and is: (a) out of work (b) losing their home (c) losing their health insurance (d) paying more for health insurance It sucks for them, I am sure. I only wishÂ…it could suck even more.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:08 PM (yz6yg)

283 Remember how Mutually Assured Destruction kept Russia in check? They didn't dare go overboard because they knew that in an instant we could obliterate their whole population. Well, those nukes a re till in place, but are now essentially artworks representing military power, because they will never ever be used. Instead of Mutually Assured Destruction, we now have Unilaterally Guaranteed Impotence.

Posted by: zombie at April 25, 2014 05:08 PM (mizYg)

284 282 Or balls, or spine, or sense of history....... Feel free to add He has a Mangina. And very very very little sphincter control left.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 25, 2014 05:08 PM (W7zKe)

285 If I were Japan at least, I would have all components for Tac Nucs all together at one location for fast assembly. We've now shown the world that we won't live up to our protective agreements.
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I think I read not to long ago that Japan was going to give up plutonium that had been created to the US for disposal. If I were Japan, I'd have given up about three pounds and said that's all we got.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 05:08 PM (vVSOO)

286 >>>Scuse me, I need to go shop for some ammo. Funny you should mention that. My UPS guy just dropped off a couple of heavy boxes today. He hates me, but that fucker earns every bit of his Christmas check. He told Cougar one time "If I ever turn to a life of crime, I'm just gonna skip your house". He was dropping off 2 crates of Mosin food at the time.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2014 05:09 PM (Pvcl5)

287 Obama is the epitome of ace's "look at me dad I'm special" rants. And we all have to suffer because he has more daddy issues than a strip club on a Saturday night.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 25, 2014 05:09 PM (tjmco)

288 I hope I am alive when it is finally revealed all the deals the JEF cut with our enemies, and what they really thought about him

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 05:09 PM (zOTsN)

289 Sean, you're our resident bureaucrat. What do the workers and drones in the hive say when they speak (off the record of course) about our godking err quenn bee?

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 05:10 PM (QwwBH)

290 Then I will live in Montana. I will marry a round American woman, and raise rabbits. And she will cook them for me. Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2014 09:04 PM (Pvcl5) I always hated the part where he died on the bridge.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:10 PM (yz6yg)

291 I think I read not to long ago that Japan was going to give up plutonium that had been created to the US for disposal. If I were Japan, I'd have given up about three pounds and said that's all we got. Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 09:08 PM (vVSOO) ******* Agreed. Recent events had better have changed their stance.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 05:10 PM (ojnk6)

292 Odd, you can never win at Risk unless you control the Ukraine.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 05:11 PM (vVSOO)

293 Top. Special. Snowflakes.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 25, 2014 05:11 PM (Dwehj)

294 Sean, you're our resident bureaucrat. What do the workers and drones in the hive say when they speak (off the record of course) about our godking err quenn bee? Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 09:10 PM (QwwBH) Depends. Depends on the color of their skin. I'm not kidding.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:11 PM (yz6yg)

295 193 Posted by: Guido at April 25, 2014 08:25 PM (GYg/s) That's ok buddy in print it seemed quite believable Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 08:26 PM (HVff2 lol

Posted by: Guido at April 25, 2014 05:11 PM (GYg/s)

296 Our emperor has no clothes
Me either.

Posted by: Geraldo Rivera at April 25, 2014 05:11 PM (Ua6T/)

297 Odd, you can never win at Risk unless you control the Ukraine. Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 09:11 PM (vVSOO) Kramer was right. The Ukraine is weak.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:11 PM (yz6yg)

298 AAAACCCCCKKKKKKK

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 05:12 PM (zOTsN)

299 Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 25, 2014 09:08 PM (yz6yg Amen brother, may they live, breathe & embrace the suck

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 05:12 PM (HVff2)

300

Buzzion, let us not mock the daddy issues.

They have worked to my advantage more than I care to admit.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 05:12 PM (myiTy)

301 "(in case the PRC ever invades at Santa Monica, i will be manning an LP/OP on Mulholland Drive)"

If the PRC ever invades via Santa Monica, they'll shortly be communicating back to Beijing, saying that they've just encountered a bunch of filthy Communists.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 05:12 PM (noWW6)

302 Carried over from the previous thread --- Putin thus looks at the Obama Administration and sees it for what it is -- juvenile (if not puerile), only concerned about the next poll and the next #HashtagEvent. I think infantile is really what you sought to say here, ace.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 25, 2014 05:13 PM (WAH9w)

303 239 Not Germany. No way -------- Why not? Do they have the national will to resist? This is a country that shut down its nuclear reactors to "go green" and are now having to build a bunch of coal plants just to keep there electricity on. The socialist hive mind is getting strong in that country. Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 08:51 PM (vVSOO) Germany has always had a socialist bent. Marx was a fucking German.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 25, 2014 05:13 PM (HxSXm)

304 301 Buzzion, let us not mock the daddy issues. They haveworked to my advantage more than I care to admit. Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 09:12 PM (myiTy) I'm not mocking their daddy issues. I'm mocking that Obama has more daddy issues than an entire club full of them.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 25, 2014 05:14 PM (z/Ubi)

305 Why does the EU hate our black president so much over that white trash Putin???

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at April 25, 2014 05:14 PM (7SJiC)

306 At least Putin knows what the fuck he's doing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:15 PM (yz6yg)

307 I think naked Geraldo has taken over for zombie Helen Thomas.

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 05:15 PM (zOTsN)

308 273 You know that old metaphor about "not poking the bear with a stick to see if it's asleep, because you might wake it up"? Well, Putin just poked Obama with a stick. He woke up, but all that happened was his motionless stuffed form bleated, "Teddy Bear is sad! Teddy Bear is sad....", and then the string rewound all the way and he fell silent again. Posted by: zombie at April 25, 2014 09:04 PM (mizYg) Obama would probably say "not tonight Michelle".

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 25, 2014 05:15 PM (HxSXm)

309 Sigh. This is what happens when you appoint a bunch of life coaches to help you run the country...into the ground.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 25, 2014 05:15 PM (Dwehj)

310 Tilikum let's face it. Unless you're Reggie love Chris Matthews or George clooney you don't want Obama coming over to sit next to you and you know it.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 25, 2014 05:15 PM (z/Ubi)

311 Germany has always had a socialist bent. Marx was a fucking German. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 25, 2014 09:13 PM (HxSXm) ********** True, but they've now tasted the sweet cash of Capitalism. So they'll become what we are heading for.....A Social Socialist that is pseudo Capitalist.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 05:16 PM (ojnk6)

312 295 A lot of that here in the hinterlands also Sean. A lot.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 05:16 PM (QwwBH)

313 >>>I always hated the part where he died on the bridge. I know right? Braved the force of the Red Navy, killed by a zampolit with a tokarev. Like if Columbus had died from a splinter he picked up jumping ashore.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2014 05:16 PM (Pvcl5)

314 Nathan Moeller ‏@AstroN8 16m In case anyone doubted that @MomsDemand has no idea how firearms work. #ShannonWattsLogic #2A pic.twitter.com/AupsCnUz5J

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2014 05:16 PM (DmNpO)

315 Obama would probably say "not tonight Michelle". Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 25, 2014 09:15 PM (HxSXm) Dude, you really think he's tapped that in the last 10 years? Can't see his scrawny ass manhandling anything larger than a paper clip.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:16 PM (yz6yg)

316 The Ukraine is weak.
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I'm guessing that it is inherently difficult to create a democracy in a country that has been under the boot heels of tyrants for centuries. It didn't make any difference who the tyrants were, the Tartars, the Mongols, the Russians or Germans. The government had the ability to kill you at any time, for any reason or any whim.Shaking off the shackles of servitude has to be incredibly hard.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 05:17 PM (vVSOO)

317 "It sucks for them, I am sure. I only wishÂ…it could suck even more."

I occasionally reflect on the totally boned economic situation into which Generation Special Snowflake are embarking, where they are now unavoidably going to live far less well than their parents. And I briefly have a sad.

Then I reflect on how Generation Special Snowflake have voted in the last couple of elections, and my sad goes away, replaced by a diamond hard schadenboner.

Hey, kids, be careful what you wish for. You might get it.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 05:17 PM (noWW6)

318 @304 - the socialist hive-mind has been strong in Germany ever since Bismarck stapled it together as a nation-state. They've got some problems, they've got a green-streak that's a severe drain on the country, but they've also I think come to realize that they drifted a little too close to Putin in the Schroeder years.

Posted by: JEM at April 25, 2014 05:17 PM (o+SC1)

319
Depends.
Depends on the color of their skin.
I'm not kidding.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 25, 2014 09:11 PM (yz6yg)
Don't surprise me none.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 25, 2014 05:18 PM (I9I9J)

320 Buzzion, in that case, I heartilly agree.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 05:18 PM (myiTy)

321 @234 Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner "Expanding like this will create insurgencies that Putin won't know how to deal with." Well hello there.

Posted by: Cheychania at April 25, 2014 05:18 PM (/CIT0)

322 Then I reflect on how Generation Special Snowflake have voted in the last couple of elections, and my sad goes away, replaced by a diamond hard schadenboner. The voting age definitely needs to be raised to 40...and people have had to file taxes in the private sector for 10 years.

Posted by: CanaDave at April 25, 2014 05:19 PM (kI5Xp)

323 189 Barky was raised to hate America.
[nr]
His mother hated America.
His father hated America.
His stepfather hates America.
His 'Uncle Frank' Marshall hated America.

Everything he has done...has weakened this country.
He's weakened our economy, our military, destroyed our space program and is destroying our healthcare system.

To Barky, bringing America to its knees is the ultimate Social Justice.

To think of what he's done as "failures" is foolish.

He's doing it on purpose.

Posted by: wheatie

Exactly. All of Obama's decisions are part of the Fundamental Transformation.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 25, 2014 05:19 PM (8SsiG)

324 Then I reflect on how Generation Special Snowflake have voted in the last couple of elections, and my sad goes away, replaced by a diamond hard schadenboner. Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 09:17 PM (noWW6) I want the snowflake generation to suffer. Badly. Because that's the only way they're ever going to grow the fuck up.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:20 PM (yz6yg)

325 Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 25, 2014 09:11 PM (yz6yg) Don't surprise me none. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 25, 2014 09:18 PM (I9I9J) Doesn't surprise me. My favorite uncle worked for Uncle Sam & it was that way in the 60s & 70s

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 05:20 PM (HVff2)

326 "In case anyone doubted that @MomsDemand has no idea how firearms work."

Why should they?

Shannon Watts is a professional public relations operative.

If she weren't shilling for gun control on Bloomberg's dime, she'd be shilling for ethanol mandates or education unions or patent lifespan extensions, and wouldn't take much time to learn about the factual niceties of any of those issues other than what the person writing the checks wanted to have said.

#ProFlacksDemandWhatever

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 05:20 PM (noWW6)

327 I'll stop lurking long enough to say thank you for that Churchill speech. That was fantastic.

Posted by: @Laura_PH at April 25, 2014 05:22 PM (fXZDm)

328 307 At least Putin knows what the fuck he's doing. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 25, 2014 09:15 PM (yz6yg) The difference between living in a cold, reality based (KGB) world of cause and effect; as opposed to the frighteningly naive, insular academic environment of predetermined outcome based on emotional want.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 25, 2014 05:22 PM (L5H2v)

329 250 sean bannion, Obama: aw you haz a sad? Here have some apple slices! Ving Rames: starts sobbing

Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 05:22 PM (TE35l)

330 Everybody is demanding something.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 25, 2014 05:22 PM (Dwehj)

331 Obama's maternal grandparents were also fellow travelers.

Posted by: Comrade Pug at April 25, 2014 05:23 PM (8c12T)

332 Sackless twinks!

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 25, 2014 05:23 PM (Ph479)

333 I killed this thread too!

Posted by: Travis McGee at April 25, 2014 05:24 PM (Ph479)

334 It suddenly went quiet...

Posted by: CanaDave at April 25, 2014 05:24 PM (kI5Xp)

335 "They've got some problems, they've got a green-streak that's a severe drain on the country, but they've also I think come to realize that they drifted a little too close to Putin in the Schroeder years."

I think that "severe drain" understates the case.

Came across a German web site which stipulated that "Energiewende" equals "Selbtsmord", and that's pretty much how it looks, at least as far as Germany remaining an industrial nation.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 25, 2014 05:25 PM (noWW6)

336 I guess if you're gonna be a bonafide Special Snowflake, ya gotta make lots of demands, right?

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 25, 2014 05:25 PM (Dwehj)

337 We disarmed.

Why aren't they disarming?

Posted by: #barackobama [/i] [/b] at April 25, 2014 05:25 PM (5ikDv)

338 If obama was born a Russian, he'd be Putin. They're both shitbags. Put 'em both in a bag, shake 'em up, and they'd come out the same.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 05:26 PM (DxThd)

339 334 I killed this thread too! Posted by: Travis McGee at April 25, 2014 09:24 PM (Ph479) Cut it out

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 05:26 PM (HVff2)

340 Why should they? Shannon Watts is a professional public relations operative. If she weren't shilling for gun control on Bloomberg's dime, she'd be shilling for ethanol mandates or education unions or patent lifespan extensions, and wouldn't take much time to learn about the factual niceties of any of those issues other than what the person writing the checks wanted to have said. #ProFlacksDemandWhatever ** As a PR rep she should know not to run her mouth about something that makes her look like a clown, which this does.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2014 05:26 PM (DmNpO)

341 It suddenly went quiet... Posted by: CanaDave at April 25, 2014 09:24 PM (kI5Xp) ******** Why, it's almost as if people are furiously refreshing another tab with the HQ up looking for the ONT. Almost.....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 05:26 PM (ojnk6)

342 @248 Thunderb "Germany has money. Germany make the rules in most of Europe these days economically. Russia will take exactly as much as they can without provoking Germany into a direct conflict" Bullox. Former SPD PM Gerhard Schroeder.. remember him? Care to take a guess whose his employer these days? Gazprom. He forced a deal through to finance a North sea pipeline to get Russian gas to Germany. They are all socialists here, but Gerhard was a whore from the word go.

Posted by: Cheychania at April 25, 2014 05:26 PM (/CIT0)

343 85 Grandpa, what did you do in the Great Twitter War? Posted by: Never Die Alone at April 25, 2014 07:46 PM (/vO0r) I shoveled #hashtags in Foggy Bottom

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 25, 2014 05:26 PM (WAH9w)

344 They're both shitbags. Put 'em both in a bag, shake 'em up, and they'd come out the same. Posted by: Soothsayer Â§ at April 25, 2014 09:26 PM (DxThd) Putin is at least a competent shitbag. He's good at it. Obama would fuck up a wet dream.

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 25, 2014 05:26 PM (yz6yg)

345 >>> "Energiewende" equals "Selbtsmord" You going to make us look that up? No math allowed here.

Posted by: fluffy at April 25, 2014 05:26 PM (Ua6T/)

346 off sock

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 25, 2014 05:27 PM (/CIT0)

347 Putin is the Russian version of obama, in other words. Just like Hugo Chavez was the Venezuelan version of obama. All these shitbag smilin' populist--totalitarians are the same.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 25, 2014 05:27 PM (DxThd)

348 We have a child in the white house. People will die because of his belligerent incompetence.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 25, 2014 05:27 PM (/i3Yt)

349 Why, it's almost as if people are furiously refreshing another tab with the HQ up looking for the ONT. Almost..... Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 09:26 PM (ojnk6) Nah.... *hits Refresh*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 25, 2014 05:28 PM (L5H2v)

350 Obama would fuck up a wet dream. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 25, 2014 He would probably have a diarrhea,dream

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 05:29 PM (HVff2)

351 345 Sean Bannion, Putin's doing his job.... Russian strongman Ogabe's doing his job too....soviet bathhouse man

Posted by: sven10077 at April 25, 2014 05:29 PM (TE35l)

352 Why, it's almost as if people are furiously refreshing another tab with the HQ up looking for the ONT. Almost..... That's what I thought...new thread stampede...

Posted by: CanaDave at April 25, 2014 05:29 PM (kI5Xp)

353 @315 - that's the level of understanding that certain groups and media factions depend on to get their laws passed.

Posted by: JEM at April 25, 2014 05:30 PM (o+SC1)

354 That's what I thought...new thread stampede... Posted by: CanaDave at April 25, 2014 09:29 PM (kI5Xp) *********** Release the Corgis!.........just not yet.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 05:30 PM (ojnk6)

355 Oldest son spent last summer in Japan. What he had heard from the Japanese nationals he knows here (and what he had read) is that the Japanese understandably hate nukes and would never, ever develop them. When he was in Japan, what he heard from EVERYONE was "we have to get nukes." It was said softly, even whispered, but it was clear enough.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 25, 2014 05:31 PM (dfYL9)

356 I remember one time when I was first poster on a thread...I said 'First!'...it was glorious...

Posted by: CanaDave at April 25, 2014 05:31 PM (kI5Xp)

357 We have a child in the white house.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but hashtags will never harm me.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at April 25, 2014 05:33 PM (Dwehj)

358 MOOCH says her life is as tough as a military family's But, she added, life on the campaign trail felt like military life. Â“Dealing with everything that I was dealing with Â— a spouse traveling, a job, kids Â— we didnÂ’t deal with multiple moves, but I learned about the challenges that happen when you move from base to base to base; the way your kids have to adjust on a dime. And doing it knowing that the person you love is in harmÂ’s way.Â” Military life is just like that. Five star hotels, secret service, private plans and limos, designer wardrobes Just Like Military Life

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 05:33 PM (zOTsN)

359 315 Nathan Moeller ‏@AstroN8 16m In case anyone doubted that @MomsDemand has no idea how firearms work. #ShannonWattsLogic #2A pic.twitter.com/AupsCnUz5J Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2014 09:16 PM (DmNpO) They're not just wrong, they're stupid.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 25, 2014 05:33 PM (mx5oN)

360 Came across a German web site... Time Out!

Posted by: Andy Reid at April 25, 2014 05:33 PM (EhP9K)

361 'Foggy Bottom Breakdown' the famous one-string ukulele anthem played at at DoS functions. Check out the YouTube.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 25, 2014 05:34 PM (W7zKe)

362 I always at least make a comment. Sometimes knocks me out of Foist. I'm OK with that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 05:34 PM (ojnk6)

363 Poland? We're freaking worried about Poland? There is absolutely nothing short of global nuclear war that it is keeping the Red Army at bay. Old cold war joke: Two Soviet Generals are sipping tea in the shadow of the Eiffel Tower. One says to the other: "Tell me again who won the air war?"

Posted by: VADM(Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Despatches) at April 25, 2014 05:34 PM (1mtKP)

364 Barry's problem is that the force field created by his Praetorian Media doesn't extend beyond our border.

Posted by: Avi at April 25, 2014 05:34 PM (p/izY)

365 OK, just channeling my inner Tom Clancy, here's what I think will happen between now and 2017. Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at April 25, 2014 08:46 PM (vVSOO) Rather an astute postulate. Enjoyed it.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 05:34 PM (bb5+k)

366 Is Nuland More like Allen Dulles or April Glaspie?

Posted by: Avi at April 25, 2014 05:35 PM (p/izY)

367 Good night mouth breathers. I would like to leave you all with this little nugget of wisdom-Barky sux! Ponder upon that.

Posted by: weirdflunkyonatablet at April 25, 2014 05:35 PM (QwwBH)

368 Clinton, a prospective 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, will appear on stage Saturday with McCain at the Sedona Forum, an annual ideas festival hosted by the McCain Institute for International Leadership at Arizona State University.-waPo Swimming in a septic tank would be more sanitary

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 25, 2014 05:36 PM (HVff2)

369 Welcome to the 21st Century. We fools have allowed ourselves to be destroyed. Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 25, 2014 08:50 PM (W7zKe) I agree, but where do you think the nexus was? At what point did we really fuck things up?

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 05:36 PM (bb5+k)

370 why the f-cm was Nuland doing in Kiev fomenting an insurrection with the neo-Nazis? I wonder if Diane Sawyer has discussed this? or David Gregory? of Stephanopolis?

Posted by: Avi at April 25, 2014 05:36 PM (p/izY)

371 Dude, you really think he's tapped that in the last 10 years? Can't see his scrawny ass manhandling anything larger than a paper clip. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 25, 2014 09:16 PM (yz6yg) He ain't the one doing the manhandling. She wears the strap-on in the family.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at April 25, 2014 05:37 PM (HxSXm)

372 Sounds like the Derek zoolander institute for policy studies

Posted by: Thunderb at April 25, 2014 05:37 PM (zOTsN)

373 I agree, but where do you think the nexus was? At what point did we really fuck things up? We gave women the vote.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 05:39 PM (EhP9K)

374 (Grizzled old character sittin' on a porch in a solar-powered rocking chair. Hayseed grandkid pulls up in his hover-segway): "Grandunit, what'r them medals fer?" "Fightin' in the last war." "What'd ya do?" (Pointing to the medals pinned to his overalls.) "Well, this one's for defending a hashtag with some well-timed snark when all seemed lost. This one is for trolling behind enemy lines and leaving a comment that made the other side seem all racist 'n' stuff. And this one -- ah, this one -- is for uploading a really sticky gif involving kittens and some lolcat captions. That got more traffic than news of the whole war!" "Gee, grandunit, I didn't know you were such a hero."

Posted by: zombie at April 25, 2014 05:40 PM (mizYg)

375 271 elected twice. simply amamzing. Posted by: willow at April 25, 2014 09:04 PM (nqBYe) I am not convinced that second election was legit.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 05:40 PM (bb5+k)

376 @346 - 'Energiewende' is the Green-driven attempt at crippling the German economy through unaffordable and unreliable "renewable" energy sources. 'Selbstmort' - suicide. Yeah, the last German government was bought and paid for by the Russians. The current bunch is a little saner and less craven.

Posted by: JEM at April 25, 2014 05:40 PM (o+SC1)

377 They're not just wrong, they're stupid. ** pew! pew! pew! went the bullets! I seriously LMAO. She honestly seems to believe that a semi-auto gun becomes an automatic depending upon whether the person holding it chooses to fire more than once.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 25, 2014 05:41 PM (DmNpO)

378

Putin is obama with a set of balls.

BTW, I will predict here and now that the LIVs will not give the GOP control of the Senate.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 05:44 PM (myiTy)

379 Depends. Depends on the color of their skin. I'm not kidding. Posted by: Sean Bannion at April 25, 2014 09:11 PM (yz6yg) Obama has done more to advance the cause of racists than any other man ever could.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 05:44 PM (bb5+k)

380 @356 - if they don't they're dumber than Obama. Right now every western economic power needs to be in full sauve qui peut mode. Never mind the Germans, the Poles ought to be working on nukes.

Posted by: JEM at April 25, 2014 05:44 PM (o+SC1)

381 >>>If obama was born a Russian, he'd be Putin. They're both shitbags. Put 'em both in a bag, shake 'em up, and they'd come out the same. Nah. Putin loves his country and acts in her interests.

Posted by: DC in Towson at April 25, 2014 05:45 PM (Pvcl5)

382 BTW, I will predict here and now that the LIVs will not give the GOP control of the Senate. Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale No, it's the vote-frauding Dem-controlled precinct poll "watchers" who will not give the GOP control of the Senate, regardless of the actual vote.

Posted by: zombie at April 25, 2014 05:45 PM (mizYg)

383 it was Dean Acheson who f*cked up on Korea

Posted by: Earl Butz ( your grandfather's Sec of Ag. ) at April 25, 2014 05:46 PM (JyjXt)

384 Hello fellow morons. I won't make the ONT tonight. I have to be up at 0330 to ride with the niece to check out IUP. What fun. I mentioned. A week ago a friend's heartbreaking story of his nephews overdose and death and 25. It turns out it wasn't accidental, it wasn't suicide... it was homicide. I didn't think it could get any worse for his grieving family. People are fucking animals. We have debased life so much it doesn't even matter to a certain segment of society.

Posted by: mpfs at April 25, 2014 05:47 PM (3hyY+)

385 Earl Butz's own name was more obscene than any joke he ever made.

Posted by: zombie at April 25, 2014 05:47 PM (mizYg)

386 I agree, but where do you think the nexus was? At what point did we really fuck things up? Posted by: D-Lamp -------------------- It has been a creeping thing. The Left, however, took advantage of the inept handling of VN to inveigle their way into all of our institutions. They are parasites, which kill the host.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 25, 2014 05:47 PM (aDwsi)

387 You never forget your "first" time.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 25, 2014 05:47 PM (V70Uh)

388 Ladies and Germs ... ... unfortunately, I'm not near enough to the bulk of you to attend a big MoMee. But for those of you that are ... ... if you don't take the first few beers easy, and actually make a few shit-hits-the-fan plans .... ... then you are out of your damned minds.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 25, 2014 05:47 PM (v3BJ5)

389 Funny, yet deadly serious. Europe has the muscle to deal with this, what they lack is the will to inconvenience their voters. Refusing to give Russia money for six months, that is, not buying their gas or oil, would bring Russia to heel, or force them on the offensive in Western Europe's preferred battlefield: Eastern Europe.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pallor at April 25, 2014 05:47 PM (QupBk)

390 Holy crap mpfs! I'm so sorry to hear that.

Posted by: EC at April 25, 2014 05:48 PM (doBIb)

391 my actual first name is Seymour

Posted by: Earl Butz ( your grandfather's Sec of Ag. ) at April 25, 2014 05:49 PM (JyjXt)

392

Zombie, you have more faith in the LIVs than I do.

BTW, love your work. Opened my eyes.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 05:49 PM (myiTy)

393 @383 - too true. Voter ID and enforcement mechanisms need to be THE first priority of EVERY state GOP party if it gets control. They don't have to talk about it, but once in power, voter ID needs to be the first priority. Then you clean out the public employee unions.

Posted by: JEM at April 25, 2014 05:49 PM (o+SC1)

394 @374 garrett "We gave women the vote." I knew an old guy who was a retired secret Service Agent... was with the Kennedy Kids when John bought it. Told me once, the women voted for him for his looks. Period. The squeeled at the sight of him. He also said the 3 biggest lies of 1960: 1. The Edsel will be the most loved car of America. 2. I'm catholic, but I didn't vote for him. 3. Put this in your mouth and you won't get pregneant (life savers candy).

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 25, 2014 05:50 PM (/CIT0)

395 dammit, mpfs, that's horrible, I'm so sorry.

Posted by: Peaches at April 25, 2014 05:50 PM (8lmkt)

396

I saw a blurb that was soooo true.

"The Truth is a Hate Crime."

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 05:50 PM (myiTy)

397 EC, I know a day when I can tell the whole story it will turn out to be for nothing important and planned in advance.

Posted by: mpfs at April 25, 2014 05:51 PM (3hyY+)

398 398 EC, I know a day when I can tell the whole story it will turn out to be for nothing important and planned in advance. Posted by: mpfs at April 25, 2014 09:51 PM (3hyY+) Please let us know when you can.

Posted by: EC at April 25, 2014 05:52 PM (doBIb)

399 It has been a creeping thing. The Left, however, took advantage of the inept handling of VN to inveigle their way into all of our institutions. They are parasites, which kill the host. Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 25, 2014 09:47 PM (aDwsi) I pinpoint the major shift at the last three words of the 24th amendment. Those last three words "Or other tax" created the Democrat coalition which kept them in power since the 60s. It was those last three words which killed the nation.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 05:52 PM (bb5+k)

400 I had a history teacher that said that as soon as women got the vote, they elected Warren G. Harding. Nuf said.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 25, 2014 05:52 PM (V70Uh)

401 374 I agree, but where do you think the nexus was? At what point did we really fuck things up? We gave women the vote. Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 09:39 PM (EhP9K) ------------------ Yeah, that tips the electorate more toward the security-driven, the prissy, and the sentimental. But I think the feminizing of politics would be greatly mitigated if you had a no-taxes-no-vote rule or, better, a disenfranchisement of those on the public dole.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 25, 2014 05:52 PM (dfYL9)

402 Peaches, This is why I loathe most people on general principle. I know what sick, depraved acts they are capable of.

Posted by: mpfs at April 25, 2014 05:52 PM (3hyY+)

403

My father guarded a few pesidents.

He overheard the dems laughing about how only the idiots obeyed the laws. This was back inthe 70's. Think it's gotten better since then?

BTW, Unlimited Access: Inside the Whitehouse is very accurate. Read it if you have not.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 05:54 PM (myiTy)

404 ONT is up.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 25, 2014 05:54 PM (ojnk6)

405 I think the feminizing of politics would be greatly mitigated if you had a no-taxes-no-vote rule or, better, a disenfranchisement of those on the public dole. Ne Representation without Taxation!

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2014 05:54 PM (EhP9K)

406 Don't forget the 16th Amendment.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 25, 2014 05:55 PM (v3BJ5)

407 But I think the feminizing of politics would be greatly mitigated if you had a no-taxes-no-vote rule or, better, a disenfranchisement of those on the public dole. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 25, 2014 09:52 PM (dfYL9) Bingo. Johnson created a vote buying scheme, and it's kept his party in power ever since.

Posted by: D-Lamp at April 25, 2014 05:55 PM (bb5+k)

408 @404 Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale Had a childhood friend who did a 3 year tour at the WH (military) and saw the Clintons daily. Hillary is a lesbian and Bill is a smooth talking shmuck he appears to be. If you want to read a good book, I would suggest "In Confidence" by Anatoly Dobrynin. A good look at past US presidents from the other side.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 25, 2014 06:05 PM (/CIT0)

409 Here is the real question: If Putin decided to take Alaska, what would King Putt do? Send a sternly worded letter to the UN condemning the action? Not push the 'Like' button on the news story? Threaten to put it in Russia's permanent record?

Posted by: [/i] [/s] [/u] [/b] An Observation at April 25, 2014 06:38 PM (ylhEn)

410 Ace, I don't expect you to read all the comments on a dead thread, but I am not feeling great now & it's better when I avoid computers, iPads & iPhones. I did not read this until now & it's one of the best you wrote this week. I read it when I received email from Yahoo group. I looked in earlier & think you were on a roll today but I didn't read more than a few lines. I'll read tomorrow if I'm better. We love you.

Posted by: Carol at April 25, 2014 07:54 PM (gjOCp)

411 If only someone had thought to unfriendly Hitler... Think of all the lives we could have saved...

Posted by: bleck at April 25, 2014 08:05 PM (ruoPh)

412 As far as "tubes and tanks," which isn't even the right comparison, the US alone has over twice as many as Russia, and much better. Plus, the diff in quality in military personnel is enormous. Far better question is number of advanced aircraft, tankers, C4ISR assets, and PGMs. Huge advantage US and NATO up and down the line. Let's not get carried away. There is a universe of difference between picking on weak, divided, poor, badly equipped, and non-NATO Ukraine, and any of the other countries listed. Russia's military is a shadow of what the FSU had. It has improved somewhat of late, but only somewhat. This Is the same country that was fought to a standstill 10 years ago in Chechnya. They are better now, but not vastly so. Their military still has grave problems and limitations. They might be able to bully the Baltics, but that would entail enormous risk for little gain. I dont think Putin is dumb or brave enough to risk a fight with NATO. Taking on Poland, even unaided, might result severe embarrassment. The Poles have a pretty tough, disciplined, well-trained military. They could give the Russians a hard time. Plus, it isn't all upside for Russia. Threaten the Baltics/Poland, and they could lose the very valuable, vulnerable Kaliningrad/Konigsberg enclave. Putin doesn't have any plans outside the Ukraine. Even taking that country will likely be all they can handle and expose serious operational shortcomings. They even had a bunch of problems in their Georgian operations in 08.

Posted by: Tantrumblogo at April 25, 2014 08:16 PM (GwLJQ)

413 #346 - Fluffy (ref #336 torquewrench's German quote)

"Energiewende" equals "Selbstmord" (note-not spelled selbtsmord)

=

"Energy Transition" equals "Suicide"

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at April 26, 2014 01:35 PM (oZq7H)

414
#379: " Putin is obama with a set of balls. BTW, I will predict here and now that the LIVs will not give the GOP control of the Senate."

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at April 25, 2014 09:44 PM (myiTy)

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Well, that; and all those electronic voting machines with a "backdoor" that the DNC has the encryption key to . . .

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at April 26, 2014 01:43 PM (oZq7H)

415 Maybe they can escalate to selfies of themselves giving the Ukrainians up sparkles on Instagram.

Posted by: A message at April 26, 2014 01:44 PM (LORBg)

416 # 402
" ... a disenfranchisement of those on the public dole."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 25, 2014 09:52 PM (dfYL9)

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YES!