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January 06, 2014

Federal Judge Strikes Down Chicago's Draconian Gun-Sales Ban as Unconstitutional
— Ace

The new case expands on the previous holdings, Heller, which recognized the Second Amendment as creating and protecting an individual right, and MacDonald, applying that right not just to the federal government but to the states.

TodayÂ’s case, which was issued by a district court not the Supreme Court, takes this idea a little further, building on 2011Â’s Ezell v. Chicago, in which a blanket ban on firing ranges was deemed illegal. As in Ezell, the court argued today that there can be no meaningful right to keep and bear arms if one is unable to buy and to use them: for law-abiding citizens to enjoy it, the court decided, the right Â”must also include the right to acquire a firearm.Â” (Italics mine.)
EzellÂ’s basic standard was that if activity is inextricable from the basic purpose of the Second Amendment (and activities such as practicing shooting, buying a gun, etc. are), then the court must apply to it what has been termed Â“almost-strict-scrutiny.Â” That is, it must take into account that Â”a severe burden on the core Second Amendment right of armed self-defense [requires] an extremely strong public-interest justification and a close fit between the governmentÂ’s means and its end.Â” In Illinois today, the court found that the governmentÂ’s action did not meet this test...

You'll have to click on the link for more, including key portions of the decision.

Or... You can read additional stuff at Hot Air. The Judge is actually an Obama appointee. But he doesn't sound like one. Below, he responds to the governments' contention that draconian anti-gun laws restrict criminals' ability to secure guns.

Indeed.

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1 Cold

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:15 PM (aDwsi)

2 Followed by, more cold.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:15 PM (aDwsi)

3 As in Ezell, the court argued today that there can be no meaningful right to keep and bear arms if one is unable to buy and to use them: for law-abiding citizens to enjoy it, the court decided, the right Â”must also include the right to acquire a firearm.Â” ------------- Huh? Common sense prevails.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:16 PM (aDwsi)

4 Lot of echos in here...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:16 PM (aDwsi)

5 Too damn cold to do this all by myself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:17 PM (aDwsi)

6 cold is gripping the nation by its testicles.

Posted by: GGE of the Sven Horde at January 06, 2014 04:17 PM (npWmN)

7 Where, oh where are the warming crowd of moron Corgis?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:17 PM (aDwsi)

8 Did anyone read that they are targeting Veterans too, saying via a letter that they are disabled and if they buy a gun they can be imprisoned or fined,or both. SCOAMF has to go. He should stay in Hawaii,where he canÂ’t do much damage.

Posted by: Carol at January 06, 2014 04:17 PM (z4WKX)

9 Obama activist judge reverses decision in 3-2-1...

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at January 06, 2014 04:17 PM (5ikDv)

10 Off, sven sock...

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:18 PM (npWmN)

11 Stop that Mike . You'll go blind .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 06, 2014 04:18 PM (XWw96)

12 What law will Chicago pass next to attempt to get around the decision?

Posted by: buzzion at January 06, 2014 04:18 PM (LI48c)

13 I claim this thread in the name of NCAA Division 1!

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about football at January 06, 2014 04:18 PM (QupBk)

14 cold is gripping the nation by its testicles. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Good luck finding mine tonight in this cold.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 04:18 PM (8FyP4)

15 It must be too cold for elbows. Wait, they are in CA. Elbows!

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:19 PM (0FSuD)

16 at a glance anyway, this falls under the general category of YAAAY

Posted by: Mallfly at January 06, 2014 04:19 PM (bJm7W)

17 GGE - Did you see the weather warning from N. Dakota? http://tinyurl.com/k3ctcau

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:19 PM (aDwsi)

18 Did anyone read that they are targeting Veterans too, saying via a letter that they are disabled and if they buy a gun they can be imprisoned or fined,or both.

SCOAMF has to go. He should stay in Hawaii,where he canÂ’t do much damage.

Posted by: Carol at January 06, 2014 08:17 PM (z4WKX)

IIRC that was mainly targeted at PTSD diagnosis, but yeah I've seen it. Another reason for a vet who is suffering to not tell anyone about it.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:20 PM (npWmN)

19 From The Gateway Pundit, here is url about Vets. http://tinyurl.com/krpsurn

Posted by: Carol at January 06, 2014 04:20 PM (z4WKX)

20 Don't dance yet.

Posted by: The Supremes at January 06, 2014 04:20 PM (RJMhd)

21 Couldn't that strict scrutiny stuff apply to the church vs contraception mandate as well?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 06, 2014 04:20 PM (P6QsQ)

22 re 14: sorry, but I'm almost old and mine almost thrive in the cold

give it to me, gimme, icy icy witchy, give it to me...

Posted by: Mallfly at January 06, 2014 04:21 PM (bJm7W)

23 was kinda shocked when i noticed there were a lot more gun stores in Illinois than NY

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 06, 2014 04:21 PM (yaeEG)

24 2 Followed by, more cold. Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 08:15 PM (aDwsi) Thread jack! http://tinyurl.com/k9y9qor

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:22 PM (0FSuD)

25 Does Dick's Sporting Goods sell electric testicle warmers?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2014 04:22 PM (tcK++)

26 GGE - Did you see the weather warning from N. Dakota? http://tinyurl.com/k3ctcau

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 08:19 PM (aDwsi)

LOL, you know I'm not all that far from NoDak right now...

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:22 PM (npWmN)

27 Just wait, someone somewhere will buy another judge and it will be reversed, reconsidered, rewritten, reworded, obfuscated, re litigated, repealed, re-legislated. . . .because it's not settled law until the progressives say it's settled law, and that's final.

Posted by: Turn, Turn, Turn at January 06, 2014 04:22 PM (Nn4Jn)

28 So, new Detroit Police Chief encouraging citizens to arm themselves and now a Chicago judge is clearing the way for citizens to arm up. ...good thing NYC has just flung open their doors to the shit class.

Posted by: Icedog at January 06, 2014 04:23 PM (uZ6Ul)

29 SWEET now cutler can use his bullet arm!! next year all the way

Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 06, 2014 04:23 PM (MX68J)

30 I've always wondered if Obama's reverse Midas touch would apply to his judicial nominees as well. Perhaps we've finally elected a president who can choose judges capable of growing in office towards the right.

Posted by: Bivalve Curious at January 06, 2014 04:24 PM (aGqSh)

31 Nip - 1.9 deg

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:24 PM (aDwsi)

32 Well, I'll be damned. They got one right for a change. Let's see how long it lasts.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 04:24 PM (UAMVq)

33 "The right to buy a weapon is the right to be free."

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 06, 2014 04:24 PM (U+vgB)

34 25 Does Dick's Sporting Goods sell electric testicle warmers? Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2014 08:22 PM (tcK++) You will never find out. I spent an hour in Dick's today and saw two employees. One at the cash register and one stocking shit. NONE on the second floor of the store, I walked the entire floor.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:25 PM (0FSuD)

35 Nip - Heh, screen updated while I was typing, now 1.7 deg.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:25 PM (aDwsi)

36 Remember when lefties thought it was too onerous to drive a few miles to get a license to show when voting? Or maybe that it's too much of a hardship to drive to get a pill or exercise the magical right to an abortion?

Yeah, but getting/legally using your gun (which actually has an actual amendment that actually means something)... go to hell, apparently.

Posted by: Hate Miser at January 06, 2014 04:25 PM (Oeij3)

37 1.9 deg Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 08:24 PM (aDwsi) FUCK, so Charlotte is ten times warmer at 19! This could get ugly.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:26 PM (0FSuD)

38 From The Gateway Pundit, here is url about Vets.
http://tinyurl.com/krpsurn

Posted by: Carol at January 06, 2014 08:20 PM (z4WKX)

Didn't see that one, thanks. One more reason I didn't take my medical record to the VA for analysis. A small percentage of BS "disability" isn't worth the intrusion.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:26 PM (npWmN)

39 i saw electric testicle open for the pietasters at the tralf in buffalo in 1994

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 06, 2014 04:27 PM (RLTt1)

40 34 25 Does Dick's Sporting Goods sell electric testicle warmers? Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2014 08:22 PM (tcK++) ******** Listen during the last podcast Ace said he was sick of watching balls drop.

Posted by: The Supremes at January 06, 2014 04:27 PM (RJMhd)

41 Wait, I thought all good patriots were boycotting Dick's Sporting Goods...

Posted by: Icedog at January 06, 2014 04:28 PM (uZ6Ul)

42 According to a survey of convicted felons.... legitimate firearms retailers play a minor and unimportant role in the criminal handgun supply ----- No way! That's unbelievable!

Posted by: Adam at January 06, 2014 04:28 PM (Aif/5)

43 Wow....nice rendition of the Star Spangled Banner at the BCS game!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 06, 2014 04:28 PM (bCEmE)

44 OT: Dear Lord, save me from yet another butchering of The Star Spangled Banner.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 06, 2014 04:28 PM (JQuNB)

45 I spent an hour in Dick's today and saw two employees. One at the cash register and one stocking shit. NONE on the second floor of the store, I walked the entire floor.

Posted by: Nip Sip

You should have found a striped shirt, a name badge, and started selling shit.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 06, 2014 04:28 PM (dwArK)

46 Electric sock..., same thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:29 PM (aDwsi)

47 41 Wait, I thought all good patriots were boycotting Dick's Sporting Goods... Didn't that get called off because they backed down? There is a new store called Academy that has twice as much shit as Dicks and cheaper. Problem, none near me.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:29 PM (0FSuD)

48 Does Dick's Sporting Goods sell electric testicle warmers?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2014 08:22 PM (tcK++)

Fuck those assholes, they can go eat a bag of their own name after what they did to Troy Industries.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:30 PM (npWmN)

49 Pleasant surprise, almost shocking a TFG judge doing the correct thing

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 06, 2014 04:30 PM (HVff2)

50 44 OT: Dear Lord, save me from yet another butchering of The Star Spangled Banner. Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 06, 2014 08:28 PM (JQuNB) Wait...you thought he butchered that? We watching the same game?!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 06, 2014 04:30 PM (bCEmE)

51 41 Wait, I thought all good patriots were boycotting Dick's Sporting Goods... Ohhhh. No wonder they didn't have any! They are ball-less! nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at January 06, 2014 04:30 PM (tcK++)

52 You should have found a striped shirt, a name badge, and started selling shit. Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2014 08:28 PM (dwArK) That's a shoe store. Dick's employees wear grunge with a name tag.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:30 PM (0FSuD)

53 no need to boycott dicks. they don't have anything i want

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 06, 2014 04:30 PM (ylrQX)

54 Targeting vets? That's nothing, down here in SE NC our cops are targeting kids. Parents call 911 because their son is having a schizophrenic episode. Two town cops show up, then two more (one more from town and one sheriff) they report "everything is under control." Then another cop from a different town (about five miles away) shows up, seventy five seconds later he shoots this 90 pound kid. That's five god Damned "professional" officers against one 90 pound kid.

Posted by: traye at January 06, 2014 04:31 PM (ouy6q)

55 53 no need to boycott dicks. they don't have anything i want Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 06, 2014 08:30 PM (ylrQX) *** Ditto!

Posted by: Hillary!! at January 06, 2014 04:31 PM (RJMhd)

56 44 OT: Dear Lord, save me from yet another butchering of The Star Spangled Banner. Posted by: Harrison Bergeron ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That was horrible. If you want to sing it big, sing it like Marvin Gaye did at the 1983 NBA All Star game. Oh, wait, we don't have singers anymore who can do that.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 04:31 PM (8FyP4)

57 41 Wait, I thought all good patriots were boycotting Dick's Sporting Goods... Posted by: Icedog at January 06, 2014 08:28 P We are.

Posted by: traye at January 06, 2014 04:31 PM (ouy6q)

58 54 was he waving around a pop tart?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 06, 2014 04:32 PM (ylrQX)

59 I just read on the net that in 2012, the JEF lost every state that required picture voter ID and won every state that does not require it (including all the districts in which he received 100-160% of the vote). Is this accurate?

Posted by: Icedog at January 06, 2014 04:32 PM (uZ6Ul)

60 53 no need to boycott dicks. they don't have anything i want I don't know how they stay in business. There really are no employees. I am surprised someone doesn't flash mob the place and clean it out. Problem? Not much worth stealing.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:32 PM (0FSuD)

61 You know what would SEVETELY CURTAIL Municipality's ability to go bankrupt? Outlawing voters access to Democrats.... Want to play this game donkies?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2014 04:32 PM (TE35l)

62 No football thread. Fucking unbelievable.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 04:33 PM (X3GkB)

63 traye, is there a link to that story? I have seen it mentioned twice and would like to see it.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:33 PM (npWmN)

64 There is a new store called Academy that has twice as much shit as Dicks and cheaper. Problem, none near me. Posted by: Nip Sip ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Where you stays? Academy has been around Houston forever.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 04:33 PM (8FyP4)

65 I spent at least an hour in dicks today.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 06, 2014 04:34 PM (sOtz/)

66 We still have 30 minutes. National Championship? Local story.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:34 PM (0FSuD)

67 Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't they just say, "We'll start housing police in at-risk domiciles to protect the innocent."

I'm certain the penumbras and emanations would support that.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2014 04:34 PM (eHIJJ)

68 53 no need to boycott dicks. they don't have anything i want

I'll never boycott dicks

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 06, 2014 04:34 PM (xm1A1)

69 "firearms retailers play a minor and unimportant role as sources of criminal handgun supply."

where's my ClueBat?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 06, 2014 04:34 PM (x3YFz)

70 The secret to winning this game is to score on every possession.

Posted by: toby928© insists on talking about football at January 06, 2014 04:34 PM (QupBk)

71 65 I spent at least an hour in dicks today. Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 06, 2014 08:34 PM (sOtz/) We're reporting you to the PIV poleese.

Posted by: Da Dykes at January 06, 2014 04:34 PM (0FSuD)

72 55 Hillary! They have what I want, sometimes... //Barry looking at Reggie's groin

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2014 04:35 PM (TE35l)

73 I spent at least an hour in dicks today.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 06, 2014 08:34 PM (sOtz/)

I think you got that backwards...

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:35 PM (npWmN)

74 Sven!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 06, 2014 04:35 PM (bCEmE)

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2014 04:35 PM (TE35l)

76 Annnnd, now down to 1.3 deg. The only question is, will it make zero by the ONT?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:36 PM (aDwsi)

77 Can I get a timeout here?

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 06, 2014 04:36 PM (xm1A1)

78 Too late, Svenling.

Posted by: The Barrel at January 06, 2014 04:36 PM (QupBk)

79 Auburn needs a timeout.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 06, 2014 04:36 PM (2DunM)

80

Barrel's calling, Sven.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:36 PM (npWmN)

81 Argh...yumpin yiminey I will be spelunkin' da barrel yo...damn nook

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2014 04:36 PM (TE35l)

82 Damn, Auburn is burning time-outs like Kansas City did Saturday.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 04:36 PM (X3GkB)

83 Is it me or has this thread gone nuts?

Posted by: Hillary!! at January 06, 2014 04:36 PM (RJMhd)

84 My furnace is having a problem dealing with - 31 wind chill. It's only a year old. Poor little thing.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2014 04:37 PM (M/TDA)

85 I will be spelunkin' da barrel yo...damn nook

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2014 08:36 PM (TE35l)

lol

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:37 PM (npWmN)

86 I'm the real Andy Reid. Ignore that other sock.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 06, 2014 04:37 PM (xm1A1)

87 Aubrun suffers from dropsy early.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 04:37 PM (X3GkB)

88 Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 08:33 PM (npWmN) Schools were closed here in Iowa because of the cold. In Iowa. F-you Al Gore.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2014 04:37 PM (xSegX)

89 That play had touchdown written all over it, but no.

Posted by: toby928© at January 06, 2014 04:37 PM (QupBk)

90 Good thing they used that timeout.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 06, 2014 04:37 PM (2DunM)

91 How the mighty have fallen. First the glory of Sven Fest 2014..., and now this.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:37 PM (aDwsi)

92 Talk about balls, NY State running commercials saying you can start a business tax free in the state for 10 years.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:38 PM (0FSuD)

93 I'd like to see Dr. Kleck revise his study. Sometimes guns used in crimes get into criminals' hands directly or indirectly by the government itself.

Why would proactively arming criminals and disarming law-abiding citizens be justified?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2014 04:38 PM (eHIJJ)

94 Lol

Posted by: tbodie at January 06, 2014 04:38 PM (cwuc2)

95 Electric sock..., same thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 08:29 PM (aDwsi)

The magneto from an old field telephone does a fine job, too, as I can personally attest.

Posted by: zombie Bin Laden at January 06, 2014 04:38 PM (8Fl6F)

96 Fuck, assholes, I thought the game started at 9:00 Later.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 06, 2014 04:39 PM (0FSuD)

97 92 Those having been running for months. Wonder how many businesses have taken the bait?

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2014 04:39 PM (M/TDA)

98 67 Hey, I've got an idea. Why don't they just say, "We'll start housing police in at-risk domiciles to protect the innocent." I'm certain the penumbras and emanations would support that. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2014 08:34 PM (eHIJJ) We need some red meat 3rd Amendment penumbras to go along with the others. Woo hoo! Would that come with killing family pets and children on the side?

Posted by: Mustbequantum at January 06, 2014 04:39 PM (MIKMs)

99 95 Electric sock..., same thing. Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 08:29 PM (aDwsi) The magneto from an old field telephone does a fine job, too, as I can personally attest. ******* So--there's more than one recipe for-- schweaty balls?

Posted by: Hillary!! at January 06, 2014 04:39 PM (RJMhd)

100 Add in that every study shows that Gun control laws do NOT decrease gun violence in America... And how can they say that there is a compelling Government interest? As taking away our rights does NOT then actually impact what they said they wanted to do.... (except negatively)...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 06, 2014 04:40 PM (lZBBB)

101 I wonder how cold it is in the Barrel. Fortunately there are flannel onesies down there to wear.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 06, 2014 04:40 PM (oFCZn)

102 Schools were closed here in Iowa because of the cold.

In Iowa.

F-you Al Gore.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2014 08:37 PM (xSegX)

A lot of them over here on the SW corner of the state are going to be delayed 2 hours tomorrow. I don't remember getting delays or cancellations for cold when I was growing up here.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:40 PM (npWmN)

103 What makes you think that anyone in Chicago that wants a gun doesn't already have one ?

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 04:40 PM (AsIdH)

104 77 Can I get a timeout here?

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 06, 2014 08:36 PM (xm1A1)

You can call time-out?

Posted by: Mike Tomlin at January 06, 2014 04:40 PM (x3YFz)

105 GGE, I think a link on drudge, on Carolina plotted hound and bearing arms. Also any Wilmington tv news website or star news website. I hate it that in my mind the moral of the story is never call 911 to your house.

Posted by: traye at January 06, 2014 04:40 PM (ouy6q)

106 76 Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the temperatures? Mark it zero!

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 06, 2014 04:40 PM (RLTt1)

107 Found the old electric blanket. Still works. Small blessings.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2014 04:41 PM (M/TDA)

108 'Plott Hound', please...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:41 PM (aDwsi)

109 >>>Why would proactively arming criminals and disarming law-abiding citizens be justified?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2014 08:38 PM (eHIJJ)<<<

Did someone mention guns and Justified? (which starts tomorrow on FX)

Posted by: "Nick Searcy" at January 06, 2014 04:41 PM (Oeij3)

110 Schools were closed here in Iowa because of the cold. In Iowa. F-you Al Gore. Posted by: AmishDude at January 06, 2014 08:37 PM (xSegX) Saw they were closed in Minnesota too.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 06, 2014 04:41 PM (bCEmE)

111 Would that come with killing family pets and children on the side?

Posted by: Mustbequantum at January 06, 2014 08:39 PM (MIKMs)

No, they charge you for that. Retroactively.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:41 PM (npWmN)

112 How do you get that wide open?

Posted by: toby928© at January 06, 2014 04:41 PM (QupBk)

113 wow, 3rd and 16 and they converted?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 06, 2014 04:42 PM (9GG/0)

114 I wish I had named one of my sons Jameis...

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 04:42 PM (8FyP4)

115 Ah, the defender slipped.

Posted by: toby928© at January 06, 2014 04:42 PM (QupBk)

116 Oh poor Auburn. '97 Peyton Manning sends his condolences.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 04:42 PM (X3GkB)

117 Parents call 911 because their son is having a schizophrenic episode. Two town cops show up, then two more (one more from town and one sheriff) they report "everything is under control." Then another cop from a different town (about five miles away) shows up, seventy five seconds later he shoots this 90 pound kid. That's five god Damned "professional" officers against one 90 pound kid. Posted by: traye at January 06, 2014 08:31 PM (ouy6q) ThatÂ’s horrible! WTF is wrong with their parents?

Posted by: Carol at January 06, 2014 04:42 PM (z4WKX)

118 Up to -12F here. Has been worse, but not for a while. Heat wave predicted for Thurs of 20F!

Posted by: Mustbequantum at January 06, 2014 04:42 PM (MIKMs)

119 Bigby - I'm all over here 0.9 deg. and falling

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 04:42 PM (aDwsi)

120 Football thread?

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2014 04:43 PM (zOTsN)

121 Talk about balls, NY State running commercials saying you can start a business tax free in the state for 10 years.

Not sure how much I trust Cuomo.

Posted by: Sandra Lee at January 06, 2014 04:43 PM (2DunM)

122 102 One the house liberals at work was going on about the polar vortex thing and how the fact that it's moving so far south is because of global warming.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2014 04:44 PM (M/TDA)

123 31 degrees and slowly falling on the Gulf Coast.

Posted by: toby928© at January 06, 2014 04:44 PM (QupBk)

124 My blood must be about as thick as prison soup now...lived in FL less than five months, but 50 degrees feels cold as hell.

Posted by: Icedog at January 06, 2014 04:44 PM (uZ6Ul)

125 Holding FSU to a FG is a bit of a victory.

Posted by: toby928© at January 06, 2014 04:44 PM (QupBk)

126 >>Does Dick's Sporting Goods sell electric testicle warmers? Posted by: Cicero Kid Yes, but they look a lot like jumper cables.

Posted by: Aviator at January 06, 2014 04:44 PM (DI+ja)

127 sven just walks face first into the penis every time.

Brother, you have to duck and dodge a bit. Postin on AoS on the fringe is like visiting a kung-fu master. You will learn.

Posted by: Mike Tomlin at January 06, 2014 04:45 PM (x3YFz)

128 120 Football thread? Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2014 08:43 PM (zOTsN) --Nuthin doin'. Threads on Baraka's (alleged) TV habits but no content on the final BCS title game.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 04:45 PM (X3GkB)

129 Zero here and falling. Man, is the wind blowing. Damn it's cold. Go Auburn!

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 04:45 PM (UG4tr)

130 Seriously, can a cob throw up a football thread? This is ridiculous.

Posted by: toby928© at January 06, 2014 04:45 PM (QupBk)

131 As much as I like to pander to my Native American compatriots, that damn Florida State tomahawk chant has got to f'n go.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 06, 2014 04:46 PM (Dwehj)

132 91 Mike Hammer, It's the law of averages Mike.... You make 1100 posts using 5 devices a week sometimes you get on the barrel, sometimes in the barrel, and when you really screw the pooch the barrel gets into you. //waddling away uncomfortably

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2014 04:46 PM (TE35l)

133 130 Seriously, can a cob throw up a football thread? This is ridiculous. Posted by: toby928Â© at January 06, 2014 08:45 PM (QupBk) --Agreed. I have been used to a couple minutes late, but this?

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 04:47 PM (X3GkB)

134 127 Mike Tomlin, Speaking of walking penises, how you been coach?

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2014 04:47 PM (TE35l)

135 Auburn needs to answer with points to stay in the game.

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 04:47 PM (QupBk)

136 Must be time for some more Executive Orders then. Can't be having citizens with gun rights.

Very dangerous. Say! I wonder what's on TV?

Posted by: GnuBreed, guessing TFG's response at January 06, 2014 04:47 PM (wNF3N)

137 sven just walks face first into the penis every time. Go on.

Posted by: Barney Frank[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 06, 2014 04:47 PM (yz6yg)

138 I tweeted Andy and DiT....we'll see.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 06, 2014 04:47 PM (bCEmE)

139 >>>One the house liberals at work was going on about the polar vortex thing and how the fact that it's moving so far south is because of global warming.

Posted by: Tuna at January 06, 2014 08:44 PM (M/TDA)<<<

Yeah, let them go with that.

*winks, flys off in Haliburton ~~Hurricane~~ Polar Vortex machine*

Posted by: Dick Cheney at January 06, 2014 04:48 PM (Oeij3)

140 There is some scary shit going on. I read the thing in the Atlantic about Frank Luntz checking out because he thinks America is done. Now with this kid getting shot, every news story has comment sections full of people advocating war against the police.

Posted by: traye at January 06, 2014 04:48 PM (ouy6q)

141 Whatever the play, it was "incredible, amazing, and unbelievable" to be followed by a PowerPoint presentation of this player's stats, his team's stats, the conference's stats, the opponent's stats, and the history books.

And then a commercial. After some more stats and some background about the kid's dear departed grandmother and the lessons learned by said kid.

And then a crowd shot. On the way to a commercial

For four or so hours.

Kill me now.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2014 04:49 PM (eHIJJ)

142 Lots of adorable FSU gals... http://bit.ly/1cJTSi0 http://bit.ly/1gBqLlZ

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 04:49 PM (DmNpO)

143 When I check into the barrel I always request the Sven Suite!

Posted by: Icedog at January 06, 2014 04:50 PM (uZ6Ul)

144 Apropos of nothing, I'm considering buying a used Beretta. Is there a significant difference between the 92F and the 92FS?

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 04:50 PM (QupBk)

145 Does Dick's Sporting Goods sell electric testicle warmers?###

My coach for the cross country ski team told us to stuff a pair of tube socks down our shorts on cold days. He then described what frostbite on your johnson would be like (and what one might get amputated). Hell even on 30deg days we did as he recommended.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 06, 2014 04:50 PM (TI3xG)

146 I hate it that in my mind the moral of the story is never call 911 to your house.

Posted by: traye at January 06, 2014 08:40 PM (ouy6q)

Sad, isn't it? Methinks many police forces could benefit greatly from an infusion of Peelian principals. If what the family says is true regarding the statement by the officer that did the shooting, a murder one charge is warranted.

Link: http://tinyurl.com/mnkc223

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (npWmN)

147 got up to -12 here today with sun...we've had a rash of break-ins around here lately but I think we'll be ok tonight.

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (ahBY0)

148 Since there's no BCS elbows thread ...

GO 'NOLES!!

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (aTXUx)

149 Marshall should have thrown that away when he had the chance. I don't know what he thought was going to develop.

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (QupBk)

150 sock b gon!

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (xm1A1)

151 142 Lots of adorable FSU gals... http://bit.ly/1cJTSi0 http://bit.ly/1gBqLlZ Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 08:49 PM (DmNpO) That's quite a set of choppers on that second one there. Almost shark like.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (UAMVq)

152 As a UND Fighting Sioux alum, the hypocritical NCAA can kiss my ass

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (zOTsN)

153 I saw Frostbite Johnson open for Muddy Waters back in '68.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (Dwehj)

154 140 traye, Well in the end thete will be chaos...and barrel hooch.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (TE35l)

155 Mustbequantum: "Would that come with killing family pets and children on the side?"

Like peanut butter and jelly. You like peanut butter and jelly, right?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2014 04:51 PM (eHIJJ)

156 wow good throw

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 06, 2014 04:52 PM (WdbF7)

157 War Damn Eagle

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2014 04:52 PM (zOTsN)

158 should tell the house lib that its not global warming but pole shift causing the vortex. then imply that its because of overpopulation in various regions. claim you read it in The Sciences, review of the American Academy of Scientists. exclaim how everyone is talking about it in peer reviewed journals. scoff when he disbelieves you.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 06, 2014 04:53 PM (Nauvb)

159 Lots of adorable FSU galsÂ… Can we have them built to spec?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 06, 2014 04:53 PM (yz6yg)

160 We don't deserve a football thread or the point elbows. Today there was mention of Johnny Manziel and some babes he was out with last night. There were pictures of the girl he was with, and she was about a 14 on the crushable scale. Yet all anyone could talk about was Manziel. It was like chatting with the cast of Glee.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 04:53 PM (8FyP4)

161 Go FSU!! Sioux-Y!!

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 06, 2014 04:53 PM (Aif/5)

162 Wow.

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 06, 2014 04:53 PM (XWw96)

163 Clark can punt, oh yes.

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 04:54 PM (QupBk)

164 And who can forget the gal who was the target of Favre's advances? http://binged.it/1iM0gxn

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 04:54 PM (DmNpO)

165 When does the NCAA apologize for the Seminole fans doing the Indian chant after some fake Indian activist or professor bitches about it in order to "raise awareness" which is lefty speak for "getting my mug on every cable news channel"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2014 04:54 PM (aTXUx)

166 "sven just walks face first into the penis every time."

Dude..... I've seen the wee lad smack'd the hell of of trolls 2x your psuedo-size, a' neever utter a belch... Just pray yunz ain't from West-by-God....

Start small, like picking on a pre-natal ward or booger pickers...

Posted by: fred zeppelin at January 06, 2014 04:54 PM (YuUoQ)

167 Anyone ask Bloomberg about this yet?

Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2014 04:55 PM (4JkHl)

168 I'll try that again... http://bit.ly/1a2biXb

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 04:55 PM (DmNpO)

169 We don't deserve a football thread or the point elbows.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 08:53 PM (8FyP4)

Kaboom.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:55 PM (npWmN)

170 Can we have them built to spec? *** Whatcha looking for?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 04:55 PM (DmNpO)

171 I can't decide if the lack of NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD is some kind of meta performance art, or just slop.

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 04:55 PM (QupBk)

172 Wonder if the Federalist has a football thread?

Posted by: Hate Miser at January 06, 2014 04:56 PM (Oeij3)

173 140 war against the police is a logical response. but it is our own fault. they merely transferred the tactics used against inner city drug dealers to suburban whites now.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 06, 2014 04:56 PM (Nauvb)

174 Does Ace know that Curling is on?

Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2014 04:56 PM (rm/ob)

175 And who can forget the gal who was the target of Favre's advances?

http://binged.it/1iM0gxn

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 08:54 PM (DmNpO)

QBs always get the best girls to send dick pics to

Posted by: Anthony W. at January 06, 2014 04:56 PM (2DunM)

176 Wonder if the Federalist has a football thread?

Burn!

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 04:56 PM (QupBk)

177 And who can forget the gal who was the target of Favre's advances?

http://binged.it/1iM0gxn

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 08:54 PM (DmNpO)

I'm pretty sure it was Musburger who pointed her out years ago. Something about a bunch of red blooded American boys signing up to go to FSU

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 06, 2014 04:56 PM (WdbF7)

178 Where is Dave in Tx? This will not stand

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2014 04:57 PM (zOTsN)

179 Dave in Texas must be bitter

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 06, 2014 04:58 PM (WdbF7)

180 Whatcha looking for? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 08:55 PM (DmNpO) Ginger. (Brunette works too.) 5'3", 118, 34C. Just a couple freckles to enhance the girl-next-door look. What's the delivery time on that?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 06, 2014 04:58 PM (yz6yg)

181 Nice stop. Go for the block!

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 04:58 PM (QupBk)

182 NDH, can't you put up a BCS thread?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 06, 2014 04:58 PM (bCEmE)

183 Football season is over now anyway. No one of importance playing until the beginning of the next season.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:58 PM (npWmN)

184 144 Apropos of nothing, I'm considering buying a used Beretta. Is there a significant difference between the 92F and the 92FS? Posted by: toby928Â© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 08:50 PM (QupBk) Not really. All I can find is that there is a difference in the way the slide is manufactured and the way it fits on the frame.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 04:59 PM (UAMVq)

185 a few FSU cowgirls http://bit.ly/19Y2xAO

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 04:59 PM (DmNpO)

186 Dave in Texas is in Texas.

Posted by: Dave in Waikiki at January 06, 2014 04:59 PM (rn0EN)

187 Excuse me GGE? Ahem... look at my nic.

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 04:59 PM (UG4tr)

188 A good punter is worth his weight in T-Bones.

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 04:59 PM (QupBk)

189 What's the delivery time on that?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2014 08:58 PM (yz6yg)

And while you're making one...

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 04:59 PM (npWmN)

190 NDH, can't you put up a BCS thread? *** I sent an email asking if there's one in the works and to let me know if not and I'll put one up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 04:59 PM (DmNpO)

191 Fuck the NCAA. With a tomahawk. Sideways. Chopping

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2014 05:00 PM (zOTsN)

192 I sent an email asking if there's one in the works and to let me know if not and I'll put one up. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 08:59 PM (DmNpO) Apparently there's not. DO IT!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 06, 2014 05:00 PM (bCEmE)

193 mpfs!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE. HAVE. YOU. BEEN????

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 06, 2014 05:00 PM (yz6yg)

194 Ahem... look at my nic.

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 08:59 PM (UG4tr)

*shakes head sadly* and you had so much going for you otherwise...

Posted by: GGE of the Steelers Horde at January 06, 2014 05:01 PM (npWmN)

195 I sent an email asking if there's one in the works and to let me know if not and I'll put one up.

Put one up and DiT can just augment it with the elbows of his choice,.

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 05:01 PM (QupBk)

196 Apropos of nothing, I'm considering buying a used Beretta. Is there a significant difference between the 92F and the 92FS? Posted by: toby928Â© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 08:50 PM (QupBk) The FS was modified to catch the rear portion of the slide in case of metallurgical stress failure as a response to US Army trials. This was generally found to be the result of over-powered NATO ammunition (equivalent of +P+ loads). IIRC the rear of the grip frame was also taken in slightly to reduce length of pull. If it's an older gun, get the updated locking block kit from the Beretta website, at least look up when it was made to see if it has the newer design. Mostly the same, though. The locking block kit fits pretty much all 92s (and Taurus 92s) I believe. Stronger design.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 06, 2014 05:01 PM (qyfb5)

197 Don't let your dad get punched over a can of soup! Lol

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 05:01 PM (UG4tr)

198 more cowgirls http://bit.ly/KxU91H

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 05:01 PM (DmNpO)

199 Elbow threads now require the Premium Subscription Plan.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2014 05:01 PM (eHIJJ)

200 Is a football thread one of the nice things we can't have? Game getting real physical

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2014 05:02 PM (zOTsN)

201 The FS was modified to catch the rear portion of the slide in case of metallurgical stress failure as a response to US Army trials.

The slide was coming off? You could put an eye out!

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 05:02 PM (QupBk)

202 Elbow threads now require the Premium Subscription Plan. Whereas those of you on the standard plan get Amanda Marcotte selfies. And Kaboom

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 06, 2014 05:03 PM (yz6yg)

203
I wonder if the judge is a liberal mugged by reality. or otherwise a criminal.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 06, 2014 05:03 PM (MaP11)

204 Since many of us are suffering elbow withdrawals...

http://tinyurl.com/l5gmylu

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2014 05:04 PM (aTXUx)

205 Whereas those of you on the standard plan get Amanda Marcotte selfies. And Kaboom Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 06, 2014 09:03 PM (yz6yg) Does it come with a cyanide capsule, perchance?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 05:04 PM (UAMVq)

206 That was good coverage on Coates. That would have been a TD 5 of 7 times.

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 05:04 PM (QupBk)

207 Hello Bannon! I've been lost in Pennsylvania. GGE, The only reason the Chargers are winning is because I left San Diego. I now expect the San Diego Padres to win the World Series.

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 05:04 PM (UG4tr)

208 TD Auburn.

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 05:04 PM (QupBk)

209 TD Auburn!!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 06, 2014 05:04 PM (bCEmE)

210 Does it come with a cyanide capsule, perchance?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 09:04 PM (UAMVq)

No. Kaboom Kids don't get an easy way out.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:04 PM (npWmN)

211 6!

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 05:05 PM (8FyP4)

212 Auburn Scores!

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 05:05 PM (UG4tr)

213 210 Does it come with a cyanide capsule, perchance? Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 09:04 PM (UAMVq) No. Kaboom Kids don't get an easy way out. Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 09:04 PM (npWmN Should've known.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 05:05 PM (UAMVq)

214 I've been lost in Pennsylvania. Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 09:04 PM (UG4tr) I owe you a dinner.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 06, 2014 05:05 PM (yz6yg)

215 AUBURN!

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at January 06, 2014 05:05 PM (080XV)

216 SEC! SEC! SEC!

Posted by: toby928© channels Madden at January 06, 2014 05:05 PM (QupBk)

217 TD Auburn

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 05:05 PM (X3GkB)

218 Bwahahaha, Katy Perry "Roar" song played for Auburn. Jinx!

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 05:06 PM (X3GkB)

219 The only reason the Chargers are winning is because I left San Diego.
I now expect the San Diego Padres to win the World Series.

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 09:04 PM (UG4tr)

ROFL

I played paintball against the San Diego Chargers way back when I was a thinner more athletic squidlet, somewhere around 95 or so.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:06 PM (npWmN)

220 I like the cartoony Coca Cola polar bears more than real ones. There. I said it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 06, 2014 05:07 PM (dfYL9)

221 Oh, great. Now Bo is doing the tomahawk chant and chop with Slow Uncle Joe. FMLx2.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 06, 2014 05:07 PM (Dwehj)

222 This is what 'mugged by reality' looks like....

http://tinyurl.com/mb5nkkf

Posted by: fred zeppelin at January 06, 2014 05:07 PM (YuUoQ)

223 The Federal Court ruling is a Trap(!) to send the issue to the Supreme Court where it will be decided once and for all that we citizens have no right to keep or bear arms.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at January 06, 2014 05:07 PM (rn0EN)

224 In the decision, it appears that claiming most criminals get their illegal guns directly or indirectly through stealing them is used as an argument for the legal sale of firearms rather than a reason to prohibit ownership.

because the reasoning goes, criminals don't buy their guns legally from a retail dealer.

Posted by: Johnny Christmas at January 06, 2014 05:08 PM (YXLPz)

225 Going back to a post that I made in an earlier thread, is no one even curious as to what's in Burger King's 'King Sauce'?

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 05:08 PM (8FyP4)

226 I'm tired of Samuel L. Jackson asking me what's in my wallet.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at January 06, 2014 05:08 PM (080XV)

227 Pools on how long into the game before a thread goes up? 20 minutes is my bet.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 05:08 PM (X3GkB)

228 Countrysquire: "6!"

That's, what... one point for each toe? Or is it tooth?

J/K. I hope they both lose.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 06, 2014 05:08 PM (eHIJJ)

229 My router is upstairs in a room that has no radiator. There is one in the hallway. My computer & iPad have been extremely slow today. I might have to go up & restart the router. I have had to do that when itÂ’s been extremely cold, but itÂ’s in the 30s here today.

Posted by: Carol at January 06, 2014 05:08 PM (z4WKX)

230 How does the Florida State student body and athletics programs comply with NCAA standards when the majority more closely resemble a 40 year old water-boy?

Posted by: Fritz at January 06, 2014 05:08 PM (TKFmG)

231 Bo Jackson would never do the Tomahawk chop

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2014 05:08 PM (zOTsN)

232 222 This is what 'mugged by reality' looks like.... http://tinyurl.com/mb5nkkf Posted by: fred zeppelin at January 06, 2014 09:07 PM (YuUoQ) Oh. Oh my. Bless you, sir. God bless you.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 06, 2014 05:09 PM (yz6yg)

233 Pools on how long into the game before a thread goes up?

Half time.

Posted by: toby928© drinks against the cold at January 06, 2014 05:09 PM (QupBk)

234 School is closed tomorrow for the devil niece. FML.

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 05:09 PM (UG4tr)

235 I see the ads on the side appear to be for Chinese mail order brides ..

Help support Ace's advertisers!

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2014 05:10 PM (aTXUx)

236 Sack!

Posted by: toby928© drinks against the cold at January 06, 2014 05:10 PM (QupBk)

237 In the decision, it appears that claiming most criminals get their illegal guns directly or indirectly through stealing them is used as an argument for the legal sale of firearms rather than a reason to prohibit ownership.

because the reasoning goes, criminals don't buy their guns legally from a retail dealer.

Posted by: Johnny Christmas at January 06, 2014 09:08 PM (YXLPz)

I sense a great disturbance in the Force...as if thousands of Liberal voices screamed out in terror and were suddenly silenced...

not that they stay that way of course.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:10 PM (npWmN)

238 #224

That's been the case pretty much all the time, but it detracts from the narritive - the proles have no right to protect themselves, with the latest tech and means, and that $$ should be spent for other purposes by citizens with higher IQ's and pedigrees...

Its been the gun control 'behind the scenes' mantra decoded from ' guns are bad...'

Posted by: fred zeppelin at January 06, 2014 05:11 PM (YuUoQ)

239 F Chicago and their wee beady eyes!

Posted by: bill-o at January 06, 2014 05:11 PM (pz8nD)

240 235 I see the ads on the side appear to be for Chinese mail order brides .. Help support Ace's advertisers! Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2014 09:10 PM (aTXUx) Uh huh. They'll marry you for the citizenship then divorce your ass as soon as possible.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 05:11 PM (UAMVq)

241 Sorry, Auburn.

Posted by: logprof at January 06, 2014 05:11 PM (X3GkB)

242 Dumb penalty by Auburn.

Posted by: toby928© drinks against the cold at January 06, 2014 05:11 PM (QupBk)

243 Newd!

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 05:12 PM (8FyP4)

244 Stupid fucking penalty Auburn.

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 05:12 PM (UG4tr)

245 Excuse me but closing school because of cold?! No way This is a teacher union thing. Gotta be I went to school at 40 and 45 below in the 60s. I walked Six blocks to school Get off my frozen fucking lawn

Posted by: Thunderb at January 06, 2014 05:12 PM (zOTsN)

246 236 Sack! Posted by: toby928Â© drinks against the cold at January 06, 2014 09:10 PM (QupBk) Balls! Wait, are we doing word association? No?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 05:13 PM (UAMVq)

247 Those rotating defensive linemen gave Alabama fits.

Posted by: toby928© drinks against the cold at January 06, 2014 05:13 PM (QupBk)

248 I am here to say, the cops today are not like the ones in years past. They will kill you deader than dog poop just to make sure they go home after their shift. It is some scary stuff.

And parents calling the cops on their kids to "teach them a lesson" better rethink that. A lot of those kids are now dead. Guy in Iowa called the cops to arrest his son who stole the dad's truck. The dad had to bury the kid three days later. Lot of that going around.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2014 05:13 PM (AW7Gr)

249 ? Judge allows gun sales to BCS teams, by a thread ?

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 05:13 PM (AsIdH)

250
"or you can read additional stuff at Hot Air."

*shudders*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 06, 2014 05:14 PM (kdS6q)

251 Newd!

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 06, 2014 09:12 PM (8FyP4)

LOL...where there were none...now there are two.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:14 PM (npWmN)

252 But, but Thunderb the precious little snowflakes might catch a chill and sue the school district.

Posted by: mpfs, San Diego Charger Fishstick at January 06, 2014 05:14 PM (UG4tr)

253 Actual Football Thread up! Thank NDH.

Posted by: toby928© drinks against the cold at January 06, 2014 05:14 PM (QupBk)

254
Uh huh. They'll marry you for the citizenship then divorce your ass as soon as possible. Posted by: Insomniac

Feature or Bug?

Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2014 05:14 PM (4JkHl)

255 248 I am here to say, the cops today are not like the ones in years past. They will kill you deader than dog poop just to make sure they go home after their shift. It is some scary stuff. And parents calling the cops on their kids to "teach them a lesson" better rethink that. A lot of those kids are now dead. Guy in Iowa called the cops to arrest his son who stole the dad's truck. The dad had to bury the kid three days later. Lot of that going around. Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2014 09:13 PM (AW7Gr) There are way too many cops who are just thugs aching to get their gun dicks off. Assume the cops are your friends at your own peril.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 05:14 PM (UAMVq)

256 254 Uh huh. They'll marry you for the citizenship then divorce your ass as soon as possible. Posted by: Insomniac Feature or Bug? Posted by: Jean at January 06, 2014 09:14 PM (4JkHl) Bug. Two words: community property.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 06, 2014 05:15 PM (UAMVq)

257 185 a few FSU cowgirls

http://bit.ly/19Y2xAO Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 06, 2014 08:59 PM

I'm pleased that FSU has taught them to be proud of their upper ladyparts

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2014 05:16 PM (aTXUx)

258 Guy in Iowa called the cops to arrest his son who stole the dad's truck. The dad had to bury the kid three days later. Lot of that going around.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2014 09:13 PM (AW7Gr)

I remember that. And I just read a story where an Alaska mother had to call the state trooper to come and arrest the town cop for sexting her 12 yo daughter. Which kind of makes me wonder where the father was. Alaska has a lot of wide open country...and bears...

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:16 PM (npWmN)

259 anyone left here? I could care less which future criminals win a football game.

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 05:19 PM (AsIdH)

260 Need some advice please, on space heaters for drafty spots in an old home. Looking at oil filled radiator types...nix to the ceramic ones with fans. Any real user advice out there in the tundra? If I had my druthers I'd be throwing a log in a fireplace but not.

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 05:19 PM (ahBY0)

261 anyone left here? I could care less which future criminals win a football game.

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 09:19 PM (AsIdH)

Me, too. Still here.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:20 PM (npWmN)

262 Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 09:19 PM (ahBY0)

Sorry I can't help you. I was ready to set myself on fire to stay warm today.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:20 PM (npWmN)

263 "Looking at oil filled radiator types..."
I own a couple of those. They come in real handy. Takes about 15-20 minutes to get up to speed. Mine have an electric fan heater as well as the radiant heater. That helps while you wait. But, it seldom gets real cold where I live, except in June and July.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2014 05:21 PM (AW7Gr)

264 -7 in Ohio, -37 with the windchill.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at January 06, 2014 05:21 PM (Opyrm)

265 But, it seldom gets real cold where I live, except in June and July.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2014 09:21 PM (AW7Gr)

Are you south of the equator?

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:22 PM (npWmN)

266 We had an oil filled one before we got a new furnace, it was really nice and warm, yet nice and safe. So safe the dogs could lean up against it and not get hurt.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at January 06, 2014 05:22 PM (Opyrm)

267 No, I live in San Francisco.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2014 05:24 PM (AW7Gr)

268 I know, spare me the diatribes....

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2014 05:25 PM (AW7Gr)

269 Thx GGE, but I'm looking to get warm more than once...-13 and the wind chill is...fucking cold...sure shows me where this little shack leaks.

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 05:26 PM (ahBY0)

270 It gets cold in June/July in SF but not at other times of the year?

I guess it was pretty cold in the Dakotas when I went up for Sturgis in 93, but nowhere near as cold as it would have been in the winter.

BTW, Daughter is a big niners fan. I've been enduring her all day.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:26 PM (npWmN)

271 Lot of us morons with temp under zero. Coldest I can remember since 1985/ January

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 05:26 PM (AsIdH)

272 Politicians run on "more cops on the street", "your opposition to tax hikes force us to lay off cops", and the local politicians rubber stamp internal investigations of shootings with "the cop had no choice".

Once the politicians are endangered at the voting by the cops who protect and serve only the elite, you'll see the kibosh put on this attitude of enemy occupation

Our guys in Afghanistan would love to have the latitude that a cop in America has now

Posted by: kbdabear at January 06, 2014 05:29 PM (aTXUx)

273 Two words: community property.

One word: pre-nup.

Posted by: toby928© drinks against the cold at January 06, 2014 05:30 PM (QupBk)

274 270...Near Chicago here...I always wanted to get a place out Dakotas way but that was in my mountain man stage...can only image the temps in the mountains out thatta way tonight.

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 05:31 PM (ahBY0)

275 imagine of course...

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 05:32 PM (ahBY0)

276 What happens in June and July is it gets 100+ degrees out around Sacramento and that sucks in cold marine air down from Alaska and it surrounds my house as cold fog.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2014 05:33 PM (AW7Gr)

277 Coldest I can remember since 1985/ January

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 09:26 PM (AsIdH)

That's when I shipped out. To the Great Lakes. Yeah.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:33 PM (npWmN)

278 What happens in June and July is it gets 100+ degrees out around Sacramento and that sucks in cold marine air down from Alaska and it surrounds my house as cold fog.

Posted by: navybrat at January 06, 2014 09:33 PM (AW7Gr)

huh...interesting...

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:34 PM (npWmN)

279 Annnnd, 0.1 deg here in the sunny South.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 05:34 PM (aDwsi)

280 Getting on a Police Department 30 years ago was a different world. Now, due to PC, past arrests, drug use etc. isn't used to weed out the mopes. Tests are weighted for affirmative action, blah, blah............ I'm not surprised about the downhill trend.

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 05:34 PM (AsIdH)

281 I'm not surprised about the downhill trend.

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 09:34 PM (AsIdH)

Neither am I. Disillusioned maybe, but not surprised.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:37 PM (npWmN)

282 I really thought that PC crap and affirmative action would have died by now. It seems to get new fans every generation. When I was a kid cops would deal with us on a much more personal basis, if you know what I mean...parents were different.

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 05:42 PM (ahBY0)

283 The problem with socialism is, when they try to level thing off, it always is a downward trend. Education, income, law enforcement. etc. Taking away the best and replacing with the worst only works in theory. Not in real life.

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 05:43 PM (AsIdH)

284 Just made 0 deg. Boiler & pumps working hard tonight.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 05:44 PM (aDwsi)

285 Just made 0 deg. Boiler & pumps working hard tonight.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 05:44 PM (aDwsi)

286 So cold I double-posted

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 05:45 PM (aDwsi)

287 and the climate 'tards are claiming this is all being caused by glowbull warmening throwing off the "normal" climate patterns or some such bs.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:47 PM (npWmN)

288 Some judges like to be right and some don't like to be reversed.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 06, 2014 05:51 PM (K0j1Y)

289 Auburn, you've got this locked up.

Just burn your time outs now, and cruise to victory.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 06, 2014 05:51 PM (Oeij3)

290 Siberia cold this morning, with well over a foot of snow in the yard. Dog couldn't get to her usual "dropoff points" Her paws were so cold, she laid down. She barely made it up he stairs after repeated calls. That's cold.

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 05:51 PM (AsIdH)

291 Ooops. Time out. Wrong thread.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 06, 2014 05:53 PM (Oeij3)

292 283...my brother works in the trades with Eastern Europeans that grew up with the Russians running things...sounds like they didn't own anything and just got on the bus to work every day...everyone made the same, ate the same, etc...they like it here even though they bitch.

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 05:53 PM (ahBY0)

293 Some judges like to be right and some don't like to be reversed.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 06, 2014 09:51 PM (K0j1Y)

Of course, all of them THINK they are right...

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 05:56 PM (npWmN)

294 The coldest I remember was -40 up north in Minnesota about 1974. Our cabin has no electricity and is remote so nobody around to give you a jump. To make sure the Jeep Wagoneer started so we could get back home. Coals from the fireplace were put in pans on the shed floor under the motor with quilts over the hood. And a rotating watch the last night we were there that weekend. It started so no one had to walk to find help. And anyone that dealt with starting cars from the 1970 and older can tell you 0deg had tow trucks busy back then.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 06, 2014 05:57 PM (TI3xG)

295 brb have to go milk the yak. it's a night not fit for man nor beast. Oh Leeeena ? Leeeena ? ( showing my age, I guess )

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 06:01 PM (AsIdH)

296 -15 now in Lansing.

Brrr. I am glad that the heat from the outrage stockpiles keep this place warm - but you should see the A/C bills in July!

May need to see if PraxAir can get me some liquid nitrogen by Memorial Day.

Until then - wax wroth my friends, stoke your boilers until they are incandescent with the cheery glow of apoplectic rage! And if you need supplies you know who to call - The 24/7 Outrage Outlet, by the blinker near the interstate! Deliveries guaranteed!

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Have a Querulous New Year from the Outrage Outlet at January 06, 2014 06:02 PM (gmoEG)

297 And anyone that dealt with starting cars from the 1970 and older can tell you 0deg had tow trucks busy back then.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 06, 2014 09:57 PM (TI3xG)

Block heaters FTW!!!

I had a Fiat 128 (I know) that refused to start when the weather got cold, the coolant circulated through the carberator and iced it up. I had to put cardboard in front of the radiator to make it run right. Many days I still had to roll it down the hill to start it, even if I had plugged it in overnight.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 06:02 PM (npWmN)

298 damn...-28 was the coldest here...we used to run a trouble light under the hood at night for my 57 chevy. We fished near Ely for 25 years or so and wanted land it was so cheap. Glad I didn't do that...sounds like a young man's sport, camping up there in the winter.

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 06:06 PM (ahBY0)

299 I had a Fiat 128 (I know) that refused to start when the weather got cold,###

My Father had a 1980 VW Bug convertible that was finicky as hell in the cold (fuel system). I can't tell you how many times we had to tow it home to thaw it out in the garage.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 06, 2014 06:08 PM (TI3xG)

300 Geeze. I can't believe the neighbor's dog is out. Now -0.4 deg.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 06, 2014 06:09 PM (aDwsi)

301 the last two winters had very little snow, some cold temps, but not this frigid shit. We're barely into winter, and this arctic cold and snow is caused by global warming? Our "betters" are imbeciles.

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 06:09 PM (AsIdH)

302 I wish I had a garage...

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 06:10 PM (ahBY0)

303 No garage here either, car barely started this morning. I'm not working this week, just hope the battery makes it through til next week.

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 06:17 PM (AsIdH)

304 We fished near Ely for 25 years or so and wanted land###

Our place is just south of Grand Rapids. I don't go up there in the winter much anymore. I must be a bigger pussy than my dad.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 06, 2014 06:19 PM (TI3xG)

305 I don't go up there in the winter much anymore. I must be a bigger pussy than my dad.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 06, 2014 10:19 PM (TI3xG)

Yep. The only reason I'm here now is for the parent's 50th anniversary.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 06:21 PM (npWmN)

306 I think that there's less than a dozen of us on this thread. I declare PRE-ONT. What commercial is the most annoying?

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 06:21 PM (AsIdH)

307 I always loved and admired the stories of the last of the old timers who lived up north. Prolly not many left these days.

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 06:23 PM (ahBY0)

308 What commercial is the most annoying?

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 10:21 PM (AsIdH)

All of the home alarm ads. Every single perp is Caucasian and every single one of them runs away because some disembodied voice tells them to. Completely believable.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 06:25 PM (npWmN)

309 I always loved and admired the stories of the last of the old timers who lived up north. Prolly not many left these days.###

There was an old logger that lived near our cabin named Cecil. As a kid I was sure he was about a hundred years old. Found out later, at that time he was about 50. Cecil lead a hard life I'm guessing.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 06, 2014 06:33 PM (TI3xG)

310 Gun Control laws are borne exclusively by the law abiding.

In New Jersey for instance, in order for you to legally posses let alone buy a handgun, you first need a firearms ID card and pass a mental health as well as a criminal background check, your thumb print will appear on your ID card.

You then need to apply for and pay for a handgun permit(s) in which you will again have a criminal back ground check and mental health check done before you will receive it, the chief of police in the town you live in will then have to approve this permit, which in some counties is not a certainty.

If approved you will be able to buy a handgun with your permit(s).

You can then go buy a handgun in which case you will have an "instant" background check before you can purchase the gun,which in New Jersey can take up to 30 days.

If you buy it at a store the store will file your permit with the state.

If you buy it privately you have to mail one of the permit slips to your county for them to file your permit.

Criminals are not, I repeat, are not going through this process.

In fact if you were to compile data on crimes committed by people legally allowed to posses the weapons they are using to commit the crime I would surmise that figure would be a number indistinguishable from zero.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 06, 2014 06:33 PM (Xkr8I)

311 I can't stand the wireless tv ad, where the kids bitch about the littler kids have it so much better. The first one was O.K. They're on about the tenth version of it, all right already.....that pitch has been dead for quite some time. I agree about the home alarm ads. Caucasians make up the largest % of thieves in areas that need home alarms ?

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 06:33 PM (AsIdH)

312 Maybe I should read the whole post or god forbid the actual article.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 06, 2014 06:37 PM (Xkr8I)

313 we seemed to have lost our signal. please stand by.

Posted by: seamrog at January 06, 2014 06:41 PM (AsIdH)

314 It would appear that everything the Liberals/leftists/progressives say about guns is basically a lie at worst or some dumb ass shit at best.

Posted by: Notrthern Pete at January 06, 2014 06:46 PM (o+MpZ)

315 In fact if you were to compile data on crimes committed by people legally allowed to posses the weapons they are using to commit the crime I would surmise that figure would be a number indistinguishable from zero.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 06, 2014 10:33 PM (Xkr8I)

You can find the stats online with a bit of homework, it is a fraction of 1%, usually 0.0something% in most states. As a group concealed weapon permit holders are more law abiding than police officers.

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 06:47 PM (npWmN)

316 It would appear that everything the Liberals/leftists/progressives say about guns is basically a lie at worst or some dumb ass shit at best.

Posted by: Notrthern Pete at January 06, 2014 10:46 PM (o+MpZ)

I know, right?

Posted by: GGE of the Freezing Horde, Iowa Edition at January 06, 2014 06:47 PM (npWmN)

317 so a lady co-worker dabbles in guns. Here husband is 100% certified gun guy. I said I'd help her pick out an AR15, you know, that way she'd have a more basass gun than her hubby who he really wants an AR15. So I went and checked prices. Whoa! AR's have gone up some from last summer aparently Suply and demand are working

Posted by: Notrthern Pete at January 06, 2014 06:51 PM (o+MpZ)

318 aparently my spelling is not working

Posted by: Notrthern Pete at January 06, 2014 06:53 PM (o+MpZ)

319 ONT UP

Posted by: Notrthern Pete at January 06, 2014 06:54 PM (o+MpZ)

320 "There was an old logger"...nice...I wish I was smarter and more aware of the old-timers when I was a kid. A different breed that is going away...wood boats.

Posted by: dumbartist at January 06, 2014 07:33 PM (ahBY0)

321 Yes!!!! ItÂ’s the sensible Civil Right of Self-Defense FTW!!

Posted by: ShingT at January 07, 2014 03:18 AM (S0l0b)

322 Yes!!!!

ItÂ’s the sensible Civil Right of Self-Defense FTW!!

Posted by: ShingT at January 07, 2014 03:19 AM (S0l0b)

323 Sorry for double post.

Posted by: ShingT at January 07, 2014 03:22 AM (S0l0b)

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