February 13, 2014

Feelgood Story Of The Day...Ted Cruz Jams It To Mitch McConnell And John Cornyn
— DrewM

Technically it was yesterday but it's too delicious to let slip by. After saying he couldn't imagine passing a clean debt ceiling, Mitch McConnell was set to let that very thing happened yesterday. And then along came Ted Cruz.

The leaders had wanted to allow the toxic measure to pass with just 51 votes so all 45 Republicans could vote against it. But Cruz, the Texas tea party freshman, demanded approval by a 60-vote threshold.

So McConnell and Cornyn tried to persuade more than five Republicans in safe seats to support the effort, but they were met with stiff resistance. No Republican wanted to be vote No. 60 to advance a bill to raise the debt ceiling without spending cuts, forcing the GOP leaders to secure a comfortable margin of victory or risk being blamed for a historic debt default.

How bad was this vote? Even Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins wanted cover for it. They usually vote with the Democrats to save guys like McConnell and number 2 Senate GOP leader John Cornyn the embarrassment of voting with Harry Reid. Well not yesterday.

The vote started late, as Senate Republicans huddled behind closed doors. After meeting for roughly an hour in private, the conference still did not know whether it could conjure up the needed votes.

On the floor, the procedural vote ran on for another hour, with Republicans slow to offer support.

Cornyn and McConnell, who is the most vulnerable Senate Republican up for reelection in 2014, then voted to end the debate, making it clear the procedural motion would be approved.

After their dramatic votes, another group of Republicans met in a room off the Senate floor. They returned, and several switched their votes from no to yes.

Some members said they switched their votes to give cover to McConnell and Cornyn.

“I didn’t want this to come down to just be a criticized vote for just a few of our people. It just wasn’t right,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), who fought off a primary challenger in 2012 and is serving his last term.

12 Republicans wound up voting with Obama, Reid and the rest of the Democrats on the cloture vote, the one that counted. They all bravely voted against it on final passage when it only needed 51 votes to pass.

Cruz has laid a little low lately after his dust ups with the establishment over the shutdown. But yesterday he delivered an enormous gift to McConnell's primary opponent Matt Bevin and once again showed what a bunch of feckless hacks so much of the GOP is.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:09 AM | Comments (407)
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1 1st?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:10 AM (HVff2)

2 2nd?

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at February 13, 2014 06:12 AM (0qkR6)

3 Feckless is too kind of a description of the rino leaders Drew. I would have called them gutless bastard pretend leaders. But that is just me.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:13 AM (HVff2)

4 So that Stockman fellow is looking better and better today to us Texans.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 13, 2014 06:13 AM (ZkzmI)

5 Don't worry, be happy and party until the debt ceiling crashes down on everyone's head.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at February 13, 2014 06:15 AM (hpgw1)

6 But teh shutdown maid us surrender, etc.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 06:15 AM (iANqq)

7 McCommie and Cornholen need to be primaried.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 13, 2014 06:17 AM (T2V/1)

8 As I recall, some people were pushing John Thune as a solid Conservative at one time. Or am I mistaken?

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 06:18 AM (YEQ2h)

9 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:18 AM (PYAXX)

10 John Cornyn is dead to me.

Posted by: Lance Armstrong's missing left nut [/i] at February 13, 2014 06:19 AM (O7Q1u)

11 Yes, Thune at one time was considered a potential Pres candidate with SoCon credentials. Obviously, he's been in D.C. too long.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:19 AM (HVff2)

12 I was planning on voting for McConnell in the primary but not anymore.

Posted by: Colonel Pooteh at February 13, 2014 06:19 AM (+H/iL)

13 HOLY CRAP. All the TX Morons need to start getting this out to your Republican friends/acquaintances ASAP. Cornyn seems to have forgotten that he's in a primary- and it's time to remind him- preferably via his removal.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:20 AM (PYAXX)

14 Yes, it's true that these men have no stones. Eunuchs, all of them.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 13, 2014 06:20 AM (sPO/s)

15 I believe science has proved that eunuchs have more testerone than the GOP leadership in either house.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:21 AM (HVff2)

16 And someone who has time on their hands needs to go through Cornyn's cloture votes on legislation the Conservative base doesn't like. I'm sure that'll be full of juicy goodness.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:22 AM (PYAXX)

17 President Ted Cruz. I like the sound of that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:22 AM (olDqf)

18 I think I'll go fix some lunch while I still got power.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 13, 2014 06:22 AM (T2V/1)

19 All the TX Morons need to start getting this out to your Republican friends/acquaintances ASAP. Cornyn seems to have forgotten that he's in a primary- and it's time to remind him- preferably via his removal. --- Total leadership turnover is needed, IMHO. Toss McConnell and Cornyn in the primaries. Toss most of the other leaders in the next leadership votes, ESPECIALLY if we get a majority.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 13, 2014 06:22 AM (/Crba)

20 I'd love to have a recording of that meeting. "...off the Senate floor. They returned, and several switched their votes from no to yes." The blow jobs must have been delicious.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 06:22 AM (A98Xu)

21 To elevate to the Feckless Hack level would require a couple of rounds of Wild Turkey shooters and a case of spinach for that bunch of sack less turds.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 13, 2014 06:23 AM (qIHc8)

22 We don't have enough votes in Congress, we need more procedural votes to vote on having a procedure to advance a procedure to study the possible effects of attempting to write a bill in committee that affects the process of having committee meetings on the possibility of someday having a vote on who might be added to the list of possible committee chairmen in case there ever is an actual vote on voting for the committee chairman who then might consider voting to have lobbyists study the possibility of actually writing a bill that might in the future not be filibustered by disgruntled extremist populist independent non partisan members of congress. 

For the Children, who go to bed hungry every day in the snow.

Posted by: J.U Hoerschst at February 13, 2014 06:23 AM (qqFrJ)

23 17 President Ted Cruz. I like the sound of that. Boehner and McConnell would fight Cruz more than Obama. They'd probably try to impeach him.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 06:23 AM (J7sV0)

24 I believe science has proved that eunuchs have more testerone than the GOP leadership in either house. Other way around, I think. It takes some real balls to convince a full quarter of your caucus to imperil themselves like this. Not to mention telling your constituents to STFD & STFU.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:23 AM (PYAXX)

25 Cruz turned that laser on to light up the targets.  Nice work.  I admire his testicles.

(I didn't say that right,  did I?)

Posted by: Dang at February 13, 2014 06:24 AM (MNq6o)

26 HOLY CRAP. All the TX Morons need to start getting this out to your Republican friends/acquaintances ASAP. Cornyn seems to have forgotten that he's in a primary- and it's time to remind him- preferably via his removal. Will be doing all I can.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 06:24 AM (ndIek)

27 *must not develop crush on another politician... Must resist.... Must....*

Posted by: Y-not on the phone trying to be strong at February 13, 2014 06:24 AM (zDsvJ)

28 For the Children, who go to bed hungry every day in the snow.

Because global warming and greedy teabaggers.

Posted by: HR at February 13, 2014 06:24 AM (ZKzrr)

29 Boehner and McConnell would fight Cruz more than Obama. They'd probably try to impeach him. --- McConnell will be lucky to have a job come January. Even if he wins the primary, I think that people will vote Dem in Kentucky just to be rid of him.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 13, 2014 06:25 AM (/Crba)

30 I'm still not onboard the "Cruz for President" train, but I may start humping his garbage myself.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:25 AM (PYAXX)

31 Cruz turned that laser on to light up the targets. Nice work. I admire his testicles. (I didn't say that right, did I?) Um,

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 06:25 AM (ndIek)

32 "Look, there are no hills to die on, you conservative know nothings!! (except my primary)" -------Mitch McConnell

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 06:25 AM (A98Xu)

33
Normally I loathe the idea of elevating Senators into Presidents. But Cruz is making it REALLY difficult to cling to that idea.



Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 13, 2014 06:26 AM (TIIx5)

34 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 10:23 AM (PYAXX) I believe it was no brains rather than balls. They scamper about like little chipmunks, nothing will happen to us on this, nothing. Then fucking Kaboom, the 2010 tidal wave revisited upon the rino forefathers.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:26 AM (HVff2)

35 I voted against the clean debt ceiling hike. That statement is technically true.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 13, 2014 06:26 AM (J7sV0)

36 But...but...Cornyn's ads say he stands up to Obama and his liberal, big-spending agenda.  It's got to be true if it's on the radio, right?

Posted by: A French Model [/i] at February 13, 2014 06:27 AM (O7Q1u)

37 >>25 Cruz turned that laser on to light up the targets. Nice work. I admire his testicles.

(I didn't say that right, did I?)

Posted by: Dang at February 13, 2014 10:24 AM (MNq6o)

<<


Oooh, honey, I'm with you!  And you said it perfectly.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 13, 2014 06:27 AM (OZmbA)

38 I've become abstracted from the political process in this country. What went on in Washington yesterday is in large part why. I don't get why Republicans would cede more leeway to a tyrant. I mean, the tyrant may "take" the power, but why in the world would anyone just hand it to him? I'm not being disingenuous here. I've come to believe that there's only one Party in Washington now, and I'd like any commentary, as a way of checking out my sanity. If that's the case, then I'm truly in the wind, politically.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 06:28 AM (YEQ2h)

39 12 Republicans wound up voting with Obama, Do we have a list of the filthy quislings?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:28 AM (PYAXX)

40 I voted for a chin increase.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 13, 2014 06:28 AM (J7sV0)

41 OOOOps. Wrong Sock


37 >>25
Cruz turned that laser on to light up the targets. Nice work. I admire his testicles.

(I didn't say that right, did I?)


Posted by: Dang at February 13, 2014 10:24 AM (MNq6o)
<<
Oooh, honey, I'm with you! And you said it perfectly.

Posted by: Johnny Weir at February 13, 2014 06:28 AM (OZmbA)

42 No longer RINO, they is DINOsaur.

Posted by: Huggy at February 13, 2014 06:29 AM (4WPfa)

43 What annoys me most about these procedural games is the assumption that we're too stupid to know what is happening. 

Posted by: alexthechick - We beseech thee of great SMOD at February 13, 2014 06:29 AM (Gk3SS)

44
Quick!!!!   Somebody go stick a mic under Cruz's nose and get his take on womyns reproductive issues!!!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at February 13, 2014 06:29 AM (nELVU)

45 Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 10:28 AM (YEQ2h) You're mostly right. There are a few Conservatives in the Legislature, but so many Senators & Representatives are much more interested in "having a seat at the table" than in actually representing their constituents.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:29 AM (PYAXX)

46 Title of Nobility.See the latest privilege to be a LEO ,top of the sidebar.Remember,these guys can carry concealed for life,another priviledge.

Posted by: steevy at February 13, 2014 06:30 AM (zqvg6)

47 Can somebody translate this for me? 

It means, what, that Cornyn and McConnell didn't want to vote for the debt ceiling raise but they wanted it to pass?

Posted by: Sphynx at February 13, 2014 06:30 AM (OZmbA)

48 Posted by: fixerupper at February 13, 2014 10:29 AM (nELVU) How hilarious would it be if someone did that to some politician (Cruz if you like) and said politician only replied with, "Well, I'm not a woman. But I *do* know I like having sex."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:30 AM (PYAXX)

49 A campaign to run Cruz would require an action plan to expose, neuter, and ultimately destroy the MFM onslaught that it would surely trigger. A series of "make them play by their rules" type traps and hypocrisy exposing media land mines should be set up in advance.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 13, 2014 06:31 AM (qIHc8)

50 There is no opposition party left in this country. Just a small handful of true patriots with no numbers, no power and their "own" party as much against them as the Dems and the MFM (birm) So what options are left other than to let it burn?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 13, 2014 06:31 AM (7ObY1)

51 Mitch McConnell : Republicans :: Andrew Bynum : Cleveland Cavs To explain, Bynum made his exit from Cleveland through being disruptive in practices to the point where it was untenable. And this is on a team which has reportedly the worst atmosphere and locker room in the league. Apparently, he decided that he wasn't getting the ball enough and decided to shoot every time he got a touch in practice. The guys at Pro Basketball Talk put the funniest image in my head, of Kyrie Irving in-bounding the ball to Bynum under the basket and, instead of passing it back, Bynum would yell "Jordan!" and attempt a full-court shot. McConnell is at that point with the Republicans, as he seems to be going out of his way to undercut the base in order to pander to the money men and Dems.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 13, 2014 06:32 AM (/Crba)

52 Example number 100001 of the deep truth that there are really two parties in Washington DC 1) the government party, that wishes to make the government bigger 2) the smaller party of people that actually care about their constituents and the future. The government party hates Ted Cruz and people like him.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at February 13, 2014 06:32 AM (RFeQD)

53 I am not voting for Cornyn again. I hope we atre able to defeat him in the primary.

Posted by: Harry at February 13, 2014 06:32 AM (ao2LR)

54 It means, what, that Cornyn and McConnell didn't want to vote for the debt ceiling raise but they wanted it to pass? Yes. Establishment/Moderate/Liberal Republicans love playing the game of voting for Cloture (where a mere 41st "no" vote could kill something) and then voting against the Actual bill. This is so they can say "I voted against the debt-ceiling increase" while still being sure it would pass. If they *actually* wanted it to fail, they would have voted against cloture.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:32 AM (PYAXX)

55 How hilarious would it be if someone did that to some politician (Cruz if you like) and said politician only replied with, "Well, I'm not a woman. But I *do* know I like having sex." Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 10:30 AM (PYAXX)


I still say the one good thing about Trump running for anything is the hilarious attempts at creating a scandal.


"Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump, is it true you're having an affair with Miss Venzuela!"

"Don't be ridiculous, it's not an affair, all I did was bang her and her sister last night."

Posted by: alexthechick - We beseech thee of great SMOD at February 13, 2014 06:33 AM (Gk3SS)

56

>>>Title of Nobility.See the latest privilege to be a LEO ,top of the sidebar.Remember,these guys can carry concealed for life,another priviledge.

 

Fuq da police

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 13, 2014 06:33 AM (3ZtZW)

57 12 Republicans wound up voting with Obama, Do we have a list of the filthy quislings? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 10:28 AM (PYAXX) I posted it yesterday. You can find the reps and sens at most right blogs/websites Allen.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:34 AM (HVff2)

58
If they *actually* wanted it to fail, they would have voted against cloture. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. a


Thanks.  A guy needs a program to keep up with this crap.

Reminds me of  'House of Cards' the netflix production.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 13, 2014 06:34 AM (OZmbA)

59 That Ted Cruz is a baaad motha- Shut your mouth! I'm talkin bout Ted. Then I can dig it

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 13, 2014 06:34 AM (m5+rk)

60 Payback's a bitch and what a gift to Bevin is what I thought yesterday after this happened but a bunch of websites were oh no Cruz is an idiot, he's keeping the senate in the minority etc. Nice to see I wasn't alone in seeing the backhand from Cruz. MConnell needs to go no matter what. So do a bunch of the other cowards.

Posted by: 1bunny at February 13, 2014 06:35 AM (IfaYJ)

61 If the R's take the Senate, is it possible that Cruz could become the majority leader? That would be epic.

Posted by: Jmel at February 13, 2014 06:36 AM (cfFqn)

62 So, McConnell and Cornyn were ok in letting the hike/suspension pass, they just wanted to be able to hide behind their votes. Cruz exposed that game. Good for him.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 13, 2014 06:36 AM (KuUy9)

63 Good for Cruz. There should be some opposition to the insanity in Washington, not this go along get along shit.

Posted by: Gaff at February 13, 2014 06:36 AM (iV8i3)

64 Ted Cruz....playing 7 dimension chess with a fucking chainsaw

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 06:36 AM (At8tV)

65 So what options are left other than to let it burn? Posted by: BlueStateRebel Welcome to the dark side.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 06:37 AM (ndIek)

66 Quislings, whores and thieves- They vote for a budget hike and wreck out country...

Posted by: Zombie Cher (well, the other one) at February 13, 2014 06:37 AM (QLbhS)

67 Cornyn has a large number of very good challengers in the primary.  My hope is we can pull him into a runoff just like we did with Dewhurst.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 13, 2014 06:37 AM (kxSZr)

68 You wingnuts just don't get it. Just shut up and give us money and votes. If we all lie very still we will win a million and a half seats in November. People love inaction.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 13, 2014 06:37 AM (J7sV0)

69 If the R's take the Senate, is it possible that Cruz could become the majority leader? That would be epic. Possible, but unlikely. However, with only a little luck, both McConnell & Cornyn will be gone next year, replaced by people considerably more conservative (read: conservative at all). Then at least the Senate Republicans will be a bit more Conservative.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:37 AM (PYAXX)

70 This was not the hill to die on. And frankly, I want some more dams built on rivers in Kentucky.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell, deep thinker at February 13, 2014 06:38 AM (RFeQD)

71 With all of the head scratching regarding the recent actions of McCornered and Boner, I think that it's time that The Occam's Razor Rule be invoked.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 13, 2014 06:38 AM (qIHc8)

72 I am no fan of Stockman, but I am getting multiple mailers from the Cornyn people about 'shady Steve Stockman', so he is obviously who they fear.  Think that's who I'll vote for...

Posted by: South County at February 13, 2014 06:38 AM (oPzmh)

73 Zombie Cher (well, the other one)



Love the name.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 13, 2014 06:38 AM (OZmbA)

74
Billy Joel:  ♪ We didnt start the fire.....♫

Ted Cruz:  No..... I did.  Pussy.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 13, 2014 06:38 AM (nELVU)

75 I suspect if GOP were to take Senate we would get an Orrin Hatch or John McCain as our beloved opposition lap dog which has been housebroken. Spits on both of their feet.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:38 AM (HVff2)

76 I suppose that I'm a member of the Conservative Party now. Even though it's not a Party. Maybe it should be. I'm not seeing the difference anymore, much, between the other two. I guess I'm in shock over what happened in the Senate yesterday. Scales off the eyes or something. Referencing the Republicans.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 06:38 AM (YEQ2h)

77 Liberals are the problem. Republicans are the Washington Generals. Game always ends the same

Posted by: ajlfour at February 13, 2014 06:39 AM (lbUI4)

78 Oh, I get it Cher is a sock.  Damn I'm slow.

Posted by: Sphynx at February 13, 2014 06:39 AM (OZmbA)

79 I believe Darrel Waltrip coined the term "coopetition". That describes this symbiotic RINO/Dem relationship.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 06:39 AM (VXk4i)

80 My hope is we can pull him into a runoff just like we did with Dewhurst. Mine, too. And the field is crowded enough that anyone getting over 50% is fairly unlikely- which would mean a runoff. Early voting starts 5 days hence.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:39 AM (PYAXX)

81 62 So, McConnell and Cornyn were ok in letting the hike/suspension pass, they just wanted to be able to hide behind their votes. Cruz exposed that game. Good for him. I'm waiting for the usual suspects to show up sputtering woth rage about 'selfish' Ted Cruz 'hurting' the party. The party deserves to be hurt.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 06:39 AM (J7sV0)

82 There are no hills to die on, h8rs, because we're on the seas of smoooooooooooth sailing!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at February 13, 2014 06:39 AM (HsTG8)

83 This time around, it should be a VERY interesting presidential primary season. This time, we have Cruz, Paul and perhaps Walker and maybe Allen West and Ben Carson against Jebba and Kris Kreosote. Rove will shit a pill and I will be ecstatic. Here's hoping.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:39 AM (olDqf)

84 75 I suspect if GOP were to take Senate we would get an Orrin Hatch or John McCain Kill. Me. Now.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 06:40 AM (A98Xu)

85 Posted by: South County at February 13, 2014 10:38 AM (oPzmh) What's wrong with Stockman? He certainly seems like the most credible threat to Cornyn.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:40 AM (PYAXX)

86 Momma always said, life is like a box of chok-lit

Posted by: Sphynx at February 13, 2014 06:40 AM (OZmbA)

87

Well this ought to be a fun thread. 

 

Tubal, you're not the only one.  I spent years on the Hill and otherwise in the center of this c**p, but going back about 7/8 years I have not recognized the country in a political sense. 

 

There's no handy term for it, but things like the ongoing constitutional usurpations by the admin. would have, in any previous time, led to immediate and decisive push-back, and no small amount of public disquiet.  Now?  Crickets.

 

The focus here is on RINO-ism, but that's merely one small aspect of the sickening landscape.  As for McConnell, he died to me when he lost his nerve on Iraq (he wasn't the only one, but it's as astonishing and pathetic an example as anything I can thnk of).

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 13, 2014 06:40 AM (afQnV)

88 Get your anti-Cornyn freak on - http://weaselsoup.com/audio/default.aspx

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at February 13, 2014 06:41 AM (HsTG8)

89 Meh, I agree with Ace. They didn't want a fight. Dems are so fiscally irresponsible now, there's no negotiation. The media makes sure that the mean old Republicans lose such fights. I'd chastise Cruz for this pointless move, but I guess he deserves the right to do it. The establishment types hypocritically piled on him after the shutdown.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 13, 2014 06:41 AM (T0NGe)

90 81 The party deserves to be hurt. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 10:39 AM (J7sV0) THIS. FUCKING THIS!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:41 AM (olDqf)

91 The reason these (insert your favorite term) are going to get kicked out is because God has designed and created a self regulating system. These (insert your favorite term) need the people they are attacking to create wealth.

Posted by: Huggy at February 13, 2014 06:41 AM (4WPfa)

92 "I'm waiting for the usual suspects to show up sputtering woth rage about 'selfish' Ted Cruz 'hurting' the party. " Exactly, like anything we do or say means anything to the "party." Who gives a shit about the party, the point is, we're cooked.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 06:41 AM (A98Xu)

93 >>I'm waiting for the usual suspects to show up sputtering woth rage about 'selfish' Ted Cruz 'hurting' the party.

Pete King will probably lead the charge.

And once again we'll see that some Republicans have more animosity toward Cruz (and Rand Paul) than they do for any Democrats or Obama. Why is that?

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2014 06:42 AM (POpqt)

94 The GOP is a wing of the Democrats. Is this not obvious by now?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:42 AM (olDqf)

95 Hey John, you panicking yet about losing your seat? You should be.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 13, 2014 06:42 AM (KuUy9)

96 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 10:39 AM (olDqf) I would say Rand Paul is already running. I don't think Walker has the temperament. He is too nice a guy. He kind of reminds me of Bush letting people shit all over him and he doesn't respond in kind.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:42 AM (HVff2)

97 But we can't do this, we must play defenses!!!!!

Posted by: RINO Betters at February 13, 2014 06:42 AM (Aif/5)

98 This has been SOP for John Cornyn.

Posted by: Rob in Katy at February 13, 2014 06:43 AM (gdGJ1)

99 Cruz! Somebody elect that man president already.

Posted by: .87c at February 13, 2014 06:43 AM (qZPXs)

100 89 Meh, I agree with Ace. They didn't want a fight. Dems are so fiscally irresponsible now, there's no negotiation. The media makes sure that the mean old Republicans lose such fights. ------------- Ridiculous. The media will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, screw with the republican perception. The R's need to do what's right. Why is this hard to get?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 06:43 AM (A98Xu)

101 Meh, I agree with Ace. They didn't want a fight. Dems are so fiscally irresponsible now, there's no negotiation. The media makes sure that the mean old Republicans lose such fights. I still see no proof of that in the last shutdown. Sure, more people "blame" the shutdown on Republicans (and Cruz in particular) than on Democrats- but most people ALSO don't see that it did any harm. Moreover, with the constant unraveling of ObamaCare, if Republicans had wanted to, they could have been screaming "This is exactly what we wanted to prevent!" But, instead, they're too busy scolding conservatives.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:43 AM (PYAXX)

102
I'm so lonely. You never write, you never call........

Posted by: The Hill To Die On at February 13, 2014 06:43 AM (TIIx5)

103 I'm John Cornyn and I sit down when I peeÂ… because I don't want to get the seat wet!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at February 13, 2014 06:43 AM (HsTG8)

104 38 I've become abstracted from the political process in this country. What went on in Washington yesterday is in large part why. I don't get why Republicans would cede more leeway to a tyrant. I mean, the tyrant may "take" the power, but why in the world would anyone just hand it to him? I'm not being disingenuous here. I've come to believe that there's only one Party in Washington now, and I'd like any commentary, as a way of checking out my sanity. If that's the case, then I'm truly in the wind, politically.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 10:28 AM (YEQ2h)


There is no conservative/liberal/independent affiliation anymore. There are still two parties: the Party in Power, and the Party Not in Power. No other distinction need be made between them, as there is none.

Posted by: chiefjaybob at February 13, 2014 06:43 AM (cxBOg)

105 Oh.   Oh.   Oh my stars and garters.


brb must hunt done the curling calendar that the curling coverage just showed holy shit.

Posted by: alexthechick - We beseech thee of great SMOD at February 13, 2014 06:44 AM (Gk3SS)

106 93 Pete King will probably lead the charge. He was one of the house traitors who voted for the clean increase.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:44 AM (HVff2)

107 "...what a bunch of feckless hacks so much of the GOP is."

A lovely turn of a phrase.

Accurate, insulting, dismissive.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 13, 2014 06:44 AM (QFxY5)

108 96 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 10:42 AM (HVff2) I guess you're right about Walker's temperament. But his deeds speak volumes. Amnesty is still a big question mark with him from my perspective, but his knee-capping the unions in the very cradle of progressivism is a big fucking deal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:45 AM (olDqf)

109 I'm really am not so crazy about having a front row seat watching our destruction.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 06:45 AM (nqBYe)

110 105 Ebay is probably a good bet.

Posted by: steevy at February 13, 2014 06:45 AM (zqvg6)

111 Posted by: alexthechick - We beseech thee of great SMOD at February 13, 2014 10:44 AM (Gk3SS)

Way ahead of you, but all I could find was a way to purchase it.

And really....this is 2014...nobody pays for pron.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 13, 2014 06:45 AM (QFxY5)

112 oh i forgot Boehnor and McDonell are playing Good politics and that Cruz... well he must be one of them teabaggers.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 06:45 AM (nqBYe)

113 94
The GOP is a wing of the Democrats. Is this not obvious by now?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 10:42 AM (olDqf)I guess it wasn't, fully, to me until yesterday. So I'm dense. It took the collusion that happened to give a tyrant more power to bring it all home. I'm really pissed at them, and that's bad news for those guys cause it made me feel like a fool.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 06:46 AM (YEQ2h)

114 Would someone tell me the last time we won a war of perception with the MSM? It doesn't happen, why avoid a fight when you're going to get screwed by perception anyway? Do the right thing.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 06:46 AM (A98Xu)

115 111 Fuck the GOP. Fuck them all with wood rasps. Posted by: CPAC Welcome Committee at February 13, 2014 10:45 AM (Cs2tJ) A bastard file would be better, from a metaphorical standpoint. But a wood rasp. Yeesh!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:46 AM (olDqf)

116 For the zillionth time ... the RINOs really don't have that much to fight over. Their aims and motives just ain't much different.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 06:46 AM (VXk4i)

117 113 Not the entire party,but a signifiant fraction.

Posted by: steevy at February 13, 2014 06:46 AM (zqvg6)

118 Way ahead of you, but all I could find was a way to purchase it.

And really....this is 2014...nobody pays for pron.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 13, 2014 10:45 AM (QFxY5)


Yes, I must say that I am very very disappointed in the internets at the moment.

Pfft, sick kids whatevs, gimme the Norwegian skip shirtless.

Posted by: alexthechick - We beseech thee of great SMOD at February 13, 2014 06:47 AM (Gk3SS)

119 Viva la resistance!  Viva Cruz!

Posted by: Stacvy at February 13, 2014 06:47 AM (jJMNa)

120 And once again we'll see that some Republicans have more animosity toward Cruz (and Rand Paul) than they do for any Democrats or Obama. Why is that? Swanky party invites.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 06:47 AM (ndIek)

121
Moreover, with the constant unraveling of ObamaCare, if Republicans had wanted to, they could have been screaming "This is exactly what we wanted to prevent!" But, instead, they're too busy scolding conservatives.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 10:43 AM (PYAXX)


and talking about helping 'fix' the most onerous parts .


yeah, happy day.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 06:47 AM (nqBYe)

122 Dance of the deckchairs.

We really need to be planning where to strike first, where the artillery will do the most good. Etc.

Hmm... updated uniform designs might be nice too. None of those flamboyant sashes for the officers this time, eh?

Posted by: Jubal Anderson Early at February 13, 2014 06:47 AM (e8Saa)

123
Is it too late to wish for an army of pissed off Face-Sized Spiders to descend upon the Senate floor? Because that would be the most compelling CSPAN broadcast in years.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 13, 2014 06:47 AM (TIIx5)

124 112 oh i forgot Boehnor and McDonell are playing Good politics and that Cruz... well he must be one of them teabaggers. If you are a good politician, people talk about primarying you or ousting you from the speakership. It baffles me that anybody can believe these guys are good at politics. They suck at policy and at politics. Everybody - everybody - hates them. Because they know they are amoral, untrustworthy, and greedy.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 06:48 AM (J7sV0)

125 Is it too late to wish for an army of pissed off Face-Sized Spiders to descend upon the Senate floor? Because that would be the most compelling CSPAN broadcast in years.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 13, 2014 10:47 AM (TIIx5)


I would watch that.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 06:48 AM (Gk3SS)

126 A bastard file would be better, from a metaphorical standpoint.

But a wood rasp. Yeesh!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 10:46 AM (olDqf)


-----


Cheese grater.


It collects the little balls of flesh for you.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 13, 2014 06:48 AM (nELVU)

127 Even the worst of Cornyn's primary challengers is a small improvement.  Vote for whoever turns your crank on March 4th and hope we can keep cornhole boy below 50%.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 13, 2014 06:48 AM (kxSZr)

128 I haven't seen this much snow since I lived in Saratoga Springs.


And Peter King?   He is a DIABLO.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 13, 2014 06:48 AM (T2V/1)

129 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 10:45 AM (olDqf) I hear ya J.J. as my Gov. he has changed things dramatically here. On immigration I think he leans towards enforcing the 1986 law and border security. But, then again, I could be wrong. My wife says I am.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:48 AM (HVff2)

130 My theory is that the GOP has quietly gone "Let it burn."

Look, if you were a GOP apparatchik congressman or senator, and you were smart enough to look at this situation and realize that the only possible outcome is collapse and/or tyranny, it would be completely rational to adopt a strategy of self-preservation. Get as much money as you can to survive the burning. Do nothing to antagonize those who will be in charge of the tyranny.

It explains why Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor sold out on the debt increase, and were rewarded with invites to His Majesty's State Dinner. (I sent Mr. Ryan a Tweet asking him if he enjoyed the caviar. He did not reply.)

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 13, 2014 06:49 AM (6GRz5)

131 Okay, I know it's been a while since my last post on that blog I don't have- and I'm at work so I don't have time to do it justice at the moment. But I'm going to write a post tentatively titled "A Vote for Cornyn is a Vote for Obama" featuring much of this content. I'll let y'all know when it's posted, and I'd appreciate any help getting it spread as far and wide as possible.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:49 AM (PYAXX)

132 It baffles me that anybody can believe these guys are good at politics. They suck at policy and at politics. Everybody - everybody - hates them. Because they know they are amoral, untrustworthy, and greedy. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 10:48 AM (J7sV0) 2 things. Gerrymandered districts and power of incumbency.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:50 AM (HVff2)

133 If your answer is Peter King, your question was stupid.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 06:50 AM (A98Xu)

134 113 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 10:42 AM (olDqf)I guess it wasn't, fully, to me until yesterday. So I'm dense. It took the collusion that happened to give a tyrant more power to bring it all home. I'm really pissed at them, and that's bad news for those guys cause it made me feel like a fool. Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 10:46 AM (YEQ2h) Don't feel bad. It is very difficult to comprehend that your fellow Americans are aiding and abetting in the destruction of our own country by co-opting and, corrupting the system they swore to defend. The Democrats do it for ideological reasons as well as greed and lust for power. The GOP, primarily for the latter two, but mostly greed. Well, so be it. WAR. May they all go to Hell, and if we can help that process along, even better.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:50 AM (olDqf)

135 Dear Mitch and John,

Happy Valentines Day.

Ted

Posted by: Ted Cruz at February 13, 2014 06:50 AM (n0DEs)

136 Bevel , Their are times i believe they are all compromised and other times i believe they just want to keep what power they have.

even if on the bench.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 06:51 AM (nqBYe)

137 But I likez da IRA.

Posted by: Peter King at February 13, 2014 06:51 AM (Aif/5)

138 there are times*

fcol

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 06:51 AM (nqBYe)

139 105 must hunt done the curling calendar that the curling coverage just showed holy shit command of the English language you can only learn in law school

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 06:51 AM (At8tV)

140
I would watch that.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 10:48 AM (Gk3SS)










You Morons heard it here first. Her Majesty likes spiders!

/slinks away

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 13, 2014 06:51 AM (TIIx5)

141 And already my twitter feed has comments about Cruz doing this for his Presidency run knowing it won't work. Lord, save me from the stupid.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 06:51 AM (A98Xu)

142 132 ... not just that. Dens aren't the only party that follows blindly. We've seen that enough here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 06:52 AM (VXk4i)

143 By the way, the congressman who represented my district before it got gerrymandered into oblivion by the corruptocrats has openly gone "let it burn" and set himself up with an off-the-grid cabin deep in the mountains of West Virginia.

http://tinyurl.com/koxnpb5

One of his big focuses in congress was the vulnerability of the American electrical grid. He must know what's coming.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at February 13, 2014 06:52 AM (6GRz5)

144 133 If your answer is Peter King, your question was stupid. Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 10:50 AM (A98Xu) What slobbering, drunken terrorist-apologist is a dick-less wonder of lie-spewing imbecility?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:52 AM (olDqf)

145 ABC
Anyone But Cornyn

Posted by: Tex at February 13, 2014 06:52 AM (iyK4L)

146 God it's going to feel good voting against Cornyn and the moderate (really Dem in disguise) lying hack who is running against my state rep, who happens to be the most Conservative in the Texas House.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 13, 2014 06:52 AM (osdNx)

147
If I get a boner every time I think about Ted Cruz as President, does that mean I'm gay?


Posted by: Peter R. at February 13, 2014 06:52 AM (Xv7f/)

148 Ding, ding, ding J.J. wins that power round at 144.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:53 AM (HVff2)

149 Cornyn and Kay Barely Republican used to tag-team each other. One would vote with the Dems on one vote, then the other would on the next. So they only looked half as bad. Well now, he can't do that anymore. Putz has been running ads for over a year now portraying himself as the next John Wayne 'fighting Obama' - yeah, not so much Corrie.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 13, 2014 06:53 AM (9Bdcz)

150 Started donating to the Senate Conservatives Fund several years ago and it is now the ONLY way that I donate for U. S. Senate races. A side benefit: near the close of last year, SCF included a page of stickers (18 to a page) that read, "Sorry, I only contribute to the Senate Conservatives Fund". I slap one of those on each and every request for funds form and/or childish "interest" surveys that I receive from the GOP and send it back to them. Sent out a half dozen such just the other day.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at February 13, 2014 06:53 AM (HsTG8)

151 Ok, we're past 100 comments so I have an OT question. There's this religion blogger I read who is normally pretty alright. But lately he's been on a tear about something called the "Dark Enlightenment" that he claims is a movement on the political right. I have no idea what the hell he's talking about. So, morons and -ette's, if you could put me some knowledge here. 1. What the hell is the Dark Enlightenment? 2. Is it serious or is it Alex Jones nutter stuff? I'm trying to decide if I need to write this dude off as a look and when he starts talking about these crazy movements my inclination is to think he's off his rocker. But I wanted to be fair and ask before I deleted the book mark.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at February 13, 2014 06:53 AM (qFpRI)

152 Tbh, I would rather Walker stayed put and continues cementing his work there, unless he's term limited or something.

Posted by: [/i]KG at February 13, 2014 06:53 AM (p7BzH)

153

I still say the one good thing about Trump running for anything is the hilarious attempts at creating a scandal.


"Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump, is it true you're having an affair with Miss Venzuela!"

"Don't be ridiculous, it's not an affair, all I did was bang her and her sister last night."

Posted by: alexthechick - We beseech thee of great SMOD at February 13, 2014 10:33

 

And it was QUALITY!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2014 06:54 AM (zF6Iw)

154 Those Beltway critters are in for a big surprise come November.

Bonus Round: Here's a feel-good video to throw on top of this post...

http://is.gd/UbPopf (See a patriot in action...)

Posted by: CPT. Charles at February 13, 2014 06:54 AM (lJaja)

155 how does a state with Tony 'mr december' Romo come up with a guy like Cruz?

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 06:54 AM (At8tV)

156 anyway, these critters are the ones we vote in to assist  in our financial fall.

nice.

alex tea, with sumthing sumthing , or a bagel.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 06:54 AM (nqBYe)

157 130

You're probably right. Its really the only explanation as to why the vast majority of the GOP publicly crows about what the government is doing, but then quietly votes to allow it to happen regardless.

Posted by: Gaff at February 13, 2014 06:54 AM (iV8i3)

158 I still see no proof of that in the last shutdown. Sure, more people "blame" the shutdown on Republicans (and Cruz in particular) than on Democrats- but most people ALSO don't see that it did any harm. But they view the Republicans as being the unserious ones (I know, I know) who are playing games. The effects of the debt will not be felt right away and we are now in DOOM territory. There's no fixing it. Let the Dems own Obama's debt. It should be all Obamacare all the time. That is something people feel now.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 13, 2014 06:54 AM (T0NGe)

159 Oh great, Comcast buying Time Warner.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 13, 2014 06:54 AM (osdNx)

160 148 Ding, ding, ding J.J. wins that power round at 144. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 10:53 AM (HVff2) ANDÂ… he talks like a pikey. (Periwinkle blue. Fer me ma!)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:54 AM (olDqf)

161 Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 13, 2014 10:52 AM (osdNx) Which district is that? And I'm trying to decide on Joe Barton. As these things go, he's not "that bad," but he has more than a few squishy tendencies.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 06:55 AM (PYAXX)

162 Welcome to the dark side. Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 10:37 AM (ndIek) Oh, I've BEEN on the dark side. Looks like yesterday's events did open some of the Horde's eyes who didn't get it yet that for all intents and purposes, we have one party left in this country.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 13, 2014 06:55 AM (7ObY1)

163 136 Bevel , Their are times i believe they are all compromised and other times i believe they just want to keep what power they have. I suspect its both. The GOP is a moderate progressive party. It's platform is mostly ignored and an irritant. I think they're uppity lately because they think they can import third world voters.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 06:55 AM (Eflez)

164 149 "...Kay Barely Republican" Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 13, 2014 10:53 AM (9Bdcz) Okay, that is funneh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 13, 2014 06:55 AM (olDqf)

165 67 Cornyn has a large number of very good challengers in the primary. My hope is we can pull him into a runoff just like we did with Dewhurst.
------
72 I am no fan of Stockman, but I am getting multiple mailers from the Cornyn people about 'shady Steve Stockman', so he is obviously who they fear. Think that's who I'll vote for...
===========
There are too many running against Cornyn.
I think Stockman is a joke; a lark.

Cornyn is an ass that needs to go, no ifs, ands or buts about it.

I'll be voting for the Dem if he wins the primary; there's no difference anyway at that point.

I suspect that Cornyn is attacking Stockman much in the way Claire in MO "attacked" Akin--he knows he's not a serious threat.

Now.
The following are running against Cornyn:
Chris Mapp
Dwayne Stovall
Linda Vega
Curt Cleaver
Reid Reasor
Ken Cope
Steve Stockman

If we're serious about doing more than bitch on the nets, taking down Cornyn is a damned good message.

Who, on that list, is the one we should support?
How much money do each have?
Organization?
Prior election experience?
Most aligned with conservative principles?

Cornyn won't survive a run-off--we need to make that happen.


Posted by: RoyalOil at February 13, 2014 06:56 AM (VjL9S)

166 hey, isn't this where sven shows up and starts his rant?

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 06:56 AM (At8tV)

167 Wisconsin has no term limits on governor's position. I'm hoping Scottie stays here and away from the national scene.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 13, 2014 06:56 AM (HVff2)

168 I guess this means Cruz won't barnstorm across Texas to help Cornyn get re-elected?

Posted by: redguy at February 13, 2014 06:56 AM (d8wEw)

169 Thank you, willow.   *sips and noms*



Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 06:57 AM (Gk3SS)

170


1. What the hell is the Dark Enlightenment?
2. Is it serious or is it Alex Jones nutter stuff?

 

===============================

 

 

Its a real thing. Don't know why its on a religion blog's radar, though.

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 13, 2014 06:57 AM (3ZtZW)

171 I don't understand. In his ads, Cornyn says he's the only one with the guts to goatslap Obama.

Posted by: X at February 13, 2014 06:58 AM (KHo8t)

172 And once again we'll see that some Republicans have more animosity toward Cruz (and Rand Paul) than they do for any Democrats or Obama. Why is that?

 

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2014 10:42 AM (POpqt)

 

Cruz and Paul expect them to voice and advance conservative principles.  Scum like McStain are so happy to have their big offices, easily bendable interns and campaign cash that they don't want to rock the boat.  It's so much easier (and less work) to do a more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger routine about Barky than to call him on the carpet for the treasonous shit stain he is.

 

"Republicans"  have money and power and can treat the public like shit.  Cruz is a threat to that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2014 06:59 AM (zF6Iw)

173 "...they think they can import third world voters."

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 10:55 AM (Eflez)

No more proof is necessary that the Republican party was dropped on its collective head.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 13, 2014 06:59 AM (QFxY5)

174 That's not to say Dark Enlightenment is mainstream-popular or anything. It's primarily driven by white Silicon Valley type guys, so far as I know

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 13, 2014 06:59 AM (3ZtZW)

175 I'd like to say Anyone But Cornyn, but then I remember who the Texas dems nominated to run against Cruz.  If they would nominate someone sane it would be one thing, but how many of us would vote for a Bolshevik just to get a RINO scalp?

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 13, 2014 06:59 AM (kxSZr)

176 One problem here is that even if we primary the like of McConnell he's going to get a "consulting" job of some kind as a reward for his support of the crony socialists running DC.

Perhaps we need not only an organized effort to remove the crony Republican leadership, but also a boycott of any companies that hire them afterwords?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 13, 2014 06:59 AM (M3hAT)

177 Let's hope Ted doesn't screw it up. President Cruz does sound pretty good.

Posted by: freaked at February 13, 2014 07:00 AM (JdEZJ)

178

@ 85 - Allen

That was probably too harsh, that I am no fan.  Mea Culpa.  I honestly don't know a ton about him, other than there are lots of rumors of campaign finance issues.  I honestly was undecided about the senate race because I thought it was a lost cause and haven't really heard from any of the other candidates.  At this point, Stockman will be my front runner, although I have a friend who is a big Stovall supporter.  Hopefully most conservaties will vote for other viable candidates and force Cornyn into a run-off.  He needs to go, now.

Posted by: South County at February 13, 2014 07:00 AM (oPzmh)

179 Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 13, 2014 10:57 AM (3ZtZW) Ok, so it's real. But is it something I'm writing this guy off for being a conspiracy theorist about? I'd look it up, but the way the guy talks about it I'm scared I'll end up on some Stormfront-type site and I don't want my IP associated with that mess.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at February 13, 2014 07:00 AM (qFpRI)

180 Mandy, I bing'd and see a lot of hits, but i cannot say i recognize any names  or orgs. so i don't know  if it's a 'real thing' or a fad thought.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:00 AM (nqBYe)

181 It should be all Obamacare all the time. That is something people feel now. The two aren't mutually exclusive. "Hey, we wouldn't have to raise the debt ceiling so much if we scrapped ObamaCare. You know, that piece of legislation which has increased most Americans' premiums, reduced their coverage options, deprived them of the doctors they liked, and put a major crimp on businesses?" But the republicans are seen as "unserious" and "playing games" because there's no unifying message. You have the Establishment Hacks who want their seats just for the power (McConnell, Hatch, McCain, Cornyn, et. al) who would vote with Democrats 90% of the time if they thought they could get away with it, and then you have the Conservatives who have to fight their own party as much as they fight the Democrats. And it's all broadcast as if it means the Republican Party is disintegrating. You hear no such stories abt the Democrats.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 13, 2014 07:00 AM (PYAXX)

182 So that Stockman fellow is looking better and better today to us Texans. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 13, 2014 10:13 AM (ZkzmI) If Cornyn is the candidate I will vote for the democrat

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 13, 2014 07:01 AM (R8hU8)

183 >>>I don't understand. In his ads, Cornyn says he's the only one with the guts to goatslap Obama.

If you listen to his ads, it's like he gives ME advice.

Posted by: Chuch Norris [/i] at February 13, 2014 07:01 AM (O7Q1u)

184 162 Welcome to the dark side.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 10:37 AM (ndIek)

Oh, I've BEEN on the dark side.

Looks like yesterday's events did open some of the Horde's eyes who didn't get it yet that for all intents and purposes, we have one party left in this country.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 13, 2014 10:55 AM (7ObY1)

That's me, Blue State. Kind of feel like an idiot, or maybe naive, but what I watched go on yesterday has at least helped bring things in focus. Maybe I got radicalized. I need to figure out how to get resources to Conservatives now. Screw the R party. A Conservative Party would make it handy.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 07:02 AM (YEQ2h)

185

You Morons heard it here first. Her Majesty likes spiders!


/slinks away

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 13, 2014 10:51 AM (TIIx5)

 

She don't like spiders and snakes

And that ain't what it takes

To love her.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2014 07:02 AM (zF6Iw)

186 174 That's not to say Dark Enlightenment is mainstream-popular or anything. It's primarily driven by white Silicon Valley type guys, so far as I know I went through a nihilist-monarchist period myself. Then I grew up.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 07:03 AM (Ezq3m)

187 I like Ted Cruz for President.

Posted by: maddogg at February 13, 2014 07:03 AM (xWW96)

188 @151 "dark enlightenment" Search it. All sorts of hits. Sounds about as real as the annual skirts for men Internet troll articles. Just another fake "white guys on a rampage" BS theme.

Posted by: Beagle at February 13, 2014 07:04 AM (sOtz/)

189 Allen, District 92. Jonathan Stickland did great in his Freshman session, being rated the most conservative Texas House (state leg) member. The guy running against him sent out huge ads (sponsored by Joe Strauss) stating Stickland was a loser high school dropout and who wants a loser for a rep? Quoting the stalwart Texas Tribune. Well turns ou t Stickland left HS early, got his GED and started up his own successful business. What a horrible guy. Also, my fed House rep is Ken Marchant who is pretty damn solid.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 13, 2014 07:05 AM (Lo5Rt)

190 Let's hope Ted doesn't screw it up. President Cruz does sound pretty good.

Too late.  He won't be President in 2017.

Shutdown Theater aside, he doesn't strike me as the type who would easily connect with Joe Sixpack.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 07:05 AM (SY2Kh)

191 we really do need a post on brainstorming.


grok what we want as a conservative s
find the means to make it happen.
of course that will get everyone tagged with , irs, epa, osha, atf,  but hey  it's an american tradition  to be harrassed by multi  govt agencies ,right?

no? ok well anyway we still need to find a way to change course.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:05 AM (nqBYe)

192 Are you kidding me?  Cruz made the GOP look bad?  Why, there ought to be a serious enquiry about this; maybe even an investigation.  Something needs to be done.

Posted by: Chief Charlie Beck at February 13, 2014 07:07 AM (B5y+v)

193 no? ok well anyway we still need to find a way to change course.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 11:05 AM (nqBYe)One good thing about my getting slapped across the face yesterday, Willow, is that it makes me even more of a "bitter clinger" to AoSHQ.

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 07:09 AM (YEQ2h)

194 I think the GOP ought to free these terrorists, and allow them to create their own party.   My  buddy  Barack  told  me  that free elections really help to move intractable opponents towards non-violent compromise.

Posted by: Hamid Karzai at February 13, 2014 07:09 AM (B5y+v)

195 we will call ourselves occupartiers.
Hey we might get positive spin for a bit.

fgs don't mention patriot or love of the country, that would get us on the radar quickly

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:09 AM (nqBYe)

196 Shutdown Theater aside, he doesn't strike me as the type who would easily connect with Joe Sixpack.

 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 11:05 AM (SY2Kh)

 

I think this kind of asininity bears repeating just for the humor value.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2014 07:09 AM (zF6Iw)

197 162?

Yep. Pitchfork Pat could be nutty about some things, but?

"Different wings of the same great bird of prey?"

Dead right, dead on. Nuke the fuckers from orbit....

Posted by: backhoe at February 13, 2014 07:09 AM (ULH4o)

198

>>>>Ok, so it's real. But is it something I'm writing this guy off for being a conspiracy theorist about? I'd look it up, but the way the guy talks about it I'm scared I'll end up on some Stormfront-type site and I don't want my IP associated with that mess.

 

No worries. Its a politcally incorrect movement, certainly, but moreso because they reject democracy and regard the American Experiment as flawed. They're really more neo-monarchists and adherents of aristocracy. And look, it makes sense: Guys in the silicon valley would like to think their efforts should not only be better rewarded, but that they be recognised for being the new Homo Superior, see? And they talk a lot about Human Bio Diversity, meaning various breeds of humans have varying traits - and that's where the pseudo-racism comes in. They tend to believe in it, I think, because of what they see about them - violence in California from largely minorities but then lily-white peaceful bigbrain jobs.

 

If the guy is giving you hives, chances are he's not seeing it any way that explains it well for you. I mean, it isn't like the DE guys have a lot clout so why should he be scaremongering? They're just interesting reads, is all.

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 13, 2014 07:10 AM (3ZtZW)

199 I'd like to say Anyone But Cornyn, but then I remember who the Texas dems nominated to run against Cruz. If they would nominate someone sane it would be one thing, but how many of us would vote for a Bolshevik just to get a RINO scalp? Can. Not. Vote. For. A. Democrat. It's not in my DNA. I'll just skip voting for that race.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 07:10 AM (ndIek)

200 Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 11:09 AM (nqBYe)

----

Sorry Willow..... I love you like a second cousin.....


But .... I aint pretending to be Occupy-anything.....

Posted by: fixerupper at February 13, 2014 07:10 AM (nELVU)

201 195 fgs don't mention patriot or love of the country, that would get us on the radar quickly nah, don't be paranoid..watch HEY NSA...THIS SITE IS FULL OF TEAPARTY PATRIOTS WHO LOVE THEIR GUNS!!! (by the way NSA, i'm a democrat..i don't know these people)

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 07:10 AM (At8tV)

202 151: Re: Dark Enlightenment

It's a "movement" for (big picture) getting back to traditional gender roles, as well as explaining why women do what they do.  There are a lot of Pick-up-artist/"Game" types of things in there as well, so those tend to give the movement as a whole a bad name. ("They're all just trying to get laid, etc")

Curious what "religious blogger" would be covering that, especially a lot.  Well, other than Vox Day, but I don't know that I'd categorize him that way in the main. *laugh*

Posted by: Jabari at February 13, 2014 07:11 AM (tO352)

203 tubal, it's been a truly bitter experience to me to watch the country i was proud of, known as the land of opportunity ..for the people, by the people, etc etc.

fall so quickly for a few trillion sheckles . that seem to fall into thin air but be owed back with interest.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:11 AM (nqBYe)

204 >>An Amber Alert triggered Tuesday night by a reported carjacking and kidnapping outside a Safeway store in Oakland was canceled Wednesday after police determined everyone involved knew one another - and that the teenage girl seen in the car was actually a woman, police said. That story did seem a little weird, esp. after no one reported a girl missing. SF Gate dot com.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 13, 2014 07:11 AM (SUKHu)

205 130 My theory is that the GOP has quietly gone "Let it burn."

=====

No, it's "let it burn but before it does, I'm going to steal the candelabras, curtains and silverware. Fuck everyone else."

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 13, 2014 07:11 AM (VjL9S)

206 ties navycopjoes shoelaces together.

Unless of course you use velcro?

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:13 AM (nqBYe)

207 Sorry Willow..... I love you like a second cousin..... Kinky.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 07:13 AM (ndIek)

208 >>Are you kidding me? Cruz made the GOP look bad? Why, there ought to be a serious enquiry about this; maybe even an investigation. Something needs to be done.

REPUBLICAN Rep. Pete King launched a PAC to fight Cruz and Paul.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jwzvflc

“It’s a vehicle that will enable me to go around the country to try to find like-minded Republicans who do not support a government shutdown, who do not support Ted Cruz’s whole idea of a government shutdown, of Rand Paul being isolationist."

Why the RNC allows this crap is beyond me - do you think the DNC would allow this? No, the Dems stand by their fellow Dems regardless of what they've said or done.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2014 07:14 AM (POpqt)

209 >>>Fuck everyone else.

If only that was metaphoric...

Posted by: The Chicken [/i] at February 13, 2014 07:14 AM (O7Q1u)

210

The truth about the weasely GOP big spenders is that we have to change the environment around them in order to change them.  If we elect more Cruz' and more Lee's, the McConnell's of this world could become real assets.  Right now, they're just ass's.  But still, that's halfway there and better than the socialists will ever be.

 

If the expectation for them is clearly one where they have to reduce  the  size  and  intrusinveness  of  government,  people  like  McConnell  and  Boehner  will  happily  do  that.  

 

Posted by: MTF at February 13, 2014 07:14 AM (B5y+v)

211 (by the way NSA, i'm a democrat..i don't know these people) Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 11:10 AM (At8tV)


PRANK CALLER!  PRANK CALLER!

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 07:15 AM (Gk3SS)

212 That story did seem a little weird, esp. after no one reported a girl missing.

SF Gate dot com.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 13, 2014 11:11 AM (SUKHu)


Yes, they even cut into radio broadcasts with the emergency system for the alert. Top Men, but then, it is par for course for Oakland.

Posted by: [/i]KG at February 13, 2014 07:15 AM (p7BzH)

213

Vote ABC in the Texas Primary.

 

 

Anybody But Cornyn.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2014 07:15 AM (BAS5M)

214 Most are redeemable.   Except for Peter King.   He's beyond redemption.   He will stay an ass.

Posted by: MTF at February 13, 2014 07:16 AM (B5y+v)

215 206 actually, and i'm being literal I haven't tied my shoes since bates came out with zippered boots in 2000 so 14yrs+ last time was for my wedding so around 10pm dec 31, 1999

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 07:16 AM (At8tV)

216

Its called DE because, as Mencius says, once you take the red pill you can't go back. I suppose he has a point there.

 

Some of the DE stuff you already know, I'm sure. Characterizing Libralism/Progressiveism as a form of Radical Puritanism is pretty commonplace now. But once you see it, it can't be unseen, right?

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 13, 2014 07:16 AM (3ZtZW)

217 Anyway, time to go

Posted by: Bigby's Helping Hands at February 13, 2014 07:16 AM (3ZtZW)

218 Sid Caesar has passed.

Posted by: irright at February 13, 2014 07:16 AM (8GKDa)

219 (by the way NSA, i'm a democrat..i don't know these people)

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 11:10 AM (At8tV)


PRANK CALLER! PRANK CALLER!

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 11:15 AM (Gk3SS)


isn't there one of the 'lesser' things we can box up and mail to him?

nothing fancy  because he is a DEM afterall. but something?

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:16 AM (nqBYe)

220 Anyone Joe Strauss supports is a Democrat; a liberal.

That guy, that fucking guy is the problem "A" with the Texas Republican Party.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 13, 2014 07:17 AM (VjL9S)

221 PRANK CALLER! PRANK CALLER!

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 11:15 AM (Gk3SS)

=======================


Are you typing this on a CELL PHONE?!

Posted by: physics geek at February 13, 2014 07:17 AM (MT22W)

222 "I think this kind of asininity bears repeating just for the humor value." Glad to see someone else found it funny. As if any of the last few presidents possessed this ephemeral quality.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:17 AM (rCOda)

223 isn't there one of the 'lesser' things we can box up and mail to him?nothing fancy because he is a DEM afterall. but something?
Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 11:16 AM (nqBYe)


A nice listing of the Cubs season records for the last century or so should do nicely.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 07:18 AM (Gk3SS)

224 heh T just woke up T: what are you doing? me: playing online T: its 6, why are you drinking? me: because I can

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 07:18 AM (At8tV)

225 A nice listing of the Cubs season records for the last century or so should do nicely.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 11:18 AM (Gk3SS)



ah smiles, and this is why you are Queen.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:18 AM (nqBYe)

226 A nice listing of the Cubs season records for the last century or so should do nicely.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 11:18 AM (Gk3SS)Heh. Go Cards!

Posted by: tubal at February 13, 2014 07:19 AM (YEQ2h)

227 We only control half of a third of a hunk of a piece of a bit of it.

Posted by: RNC at February 13, 2014 07:19 AM (kVfSG)

228 A nice listing of the Cubs season records for the last century or so should do nicely.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 11:18 AM (Gk3SS)


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..... ouch.....



Posted by: fixerupper at February 13, 2014 07:19 AM (nELVU)

229 Why the RNC allows this crap is beyond me - do you think the DNC would allow this?

It's not up to the RNC to allow or disallow it anymore than they "allow" Cruz and Paul to solicit for their respective PACs.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 07:19 AM (SY2Kh)

230

Ted is brilliant.

This is all truly a fight between the Party of Government portion of the GOP (POGGOP) and conservatives. The most interesting thing about the vote to raise the ceiling was not the lack of a fight - it was the length of the period for which the ceiling was raised. Why extend all the way until March 2015? Why not a three month or six month extension?

The answer is that the POGGOP did not want to give conservatives the opportunity to fight for spending restraint (because they think that a fight lost is always a bad thing) until after the next congress is seated. Ted understands politics and realizes (I think correctly) that a political fight fought and lost can be a good thing. It draws the public's attention to an issue that they should care about but might otherwise ignore, it shore's up the base, and it draws clear distinctions between party positions. Also, perhaps we will learn a way to win the fight. If you do not try you are much less likely to learn.

I think that Ted recognized that the length of the extension was an attack on conservatives - yet another battle in the war between the POGGOP and conservatives - and that the POGGOPs had to pay a price for directing their efforts to helping Obama and kneecapping conservatives.

Well done Ted.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by: Brian at February 13, 2014 07:20 AM (Hd5n8)

231 ugggh, car wreck right under my damn window stupid tourists

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 07:20 AM (At8tV)

232 Glad to see someone else found it funny. As if any of the last few presidents possessed this ephemeral quality. Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 11:17 AM (rCOda) Oh come on now. We can all relate to fucking our interns, eating dog and looking down our noses at the commin folk.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 13, 2014 07:20 AM (Lo5Rt)

233 227 We only control half of a third of a hunk of a piece of a bit of it. Posted by: RNC at February 13, 2014 11:19 AM (kVfSG) And if we lose it, it will be a catastrophe.

Posted by: The RNC at February 13, 2014 07:20 AM (Ezq3m)

234

PRANK CALLER! PRANK CALLER!


Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 11:15 AM (Gk3SS)

 

=======================
Are you typing this on a CELL PHONE?!

Posted by: physics geek at February 13, 2014 11:17 AM (MT22W)

 

FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!!!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2014 07:20 AM (zF6Iw)

235 Sid Caesar left us? Damn, for the third person to go I'm going to guess either Olivia DeHavilland, Kirk Douglas, or Abe Vigoda. Hate to see any of them go. Kirk's a tough old bastard, so he'll probably hold out.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:21 AM (rCOda)

236 223 A nice listing of the Cubs season records for the last century or so should do nicely damn, that was uncalled for ***should I remind the horde which baseball team you like..i know it and you know I do***

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 07:21 AM (At8tV)

237 Vote for Stovall in the Texas Primary. Got that, S-T-O-V-A-L-L. that's how you spell cornyn and stockman, S-T-O-V-A-L-L.

Posted by: lindafell at February 13, 2014 07:22 AM (PGO8C)

238

To leave MP4 in The Barrel or not, it is the question.


Are you typing this on a CELL PHONE?!
Posted by: physics geek at February 13, 2014 11:17 AM (MT22W)


I knew I could count on the Horde to get that reference. 

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 07:22 AM (Gk3SS)

239 Sid Caesar left us? ------------------------ Loved that guy.

Posted by: irright at February 13, 2014 07:22 AM (8GKDa)

240 look behind you!

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:22 AM (nqBYe)

241 Well downloading Civ IV from Amazon.  May take another 5 or 6 hours.

Guess I should clean house and write while it downloads.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 13, 2014 07:22 AM (+lpuZ)

242 Posted by: Brian at February 13, 2014 11:20 AM (Hd5n

The EGOP (Establishment GOP) are adept at kicking the next hill down the road, in order to keep their hands in the till as long as possible.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 13, 2014 07:22 AM (o3MSL)

243 "And if we lose it, it will be a catastrophe. Posted by: The RNC at February 13, 2014 11:20 AM (Ezq3m)" Ummm, too late?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:23 AM (rCOda)

244
***should I remind the horde which baseball team you like..i know it and you know I do***

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 11:21 AM (At8tV)


Oh .. whistles into the air.

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:23 AM (nqBYe)

245 or Abe Vigoda. God dammit, people have been naming me as the third celebrity to die for twenty years.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at February 13, 2014 07:23 AM (Ezq3m)

246 Earlier Drew:  Just pass a clean debt limit bill and get it over with.

GOP Leadership:  OK, done.

Current Drew:  You RINO how dare you pass a clean debt limit bill?!?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 07:23 AM (SY2Kh)

247 damn, that was uncalled for

***should I remind the horde which baseball team you like..i know it and you know I do*** Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 11:21 AM (At8tV)


That's what gives me Absolute Moral Authority to say it.

Posted by: alexthechick - oh great SMOD can you wait til curling's done at February 13, 2014 07:24 AM (Gk3SS)

248 233 227 We only control half of a third of a hunk of a piece of a bit of it.

Posted by: RNC at February 13, 2014 11:19 AM (kVfSG)

And if we lose it, it will be a catastrophe.

Posted by: The RNC at February 13, 2014 11:20 AM (Ezq3m)


And they never make it clear that they don't really intend to do anything different even if they won the House, Senate, and the White House.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 13, 2014 07:24 AM (o3MSL)

249 God dammit, people have been naming me as the third celebrity to die for twenty years.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at February 13, 2014 11:23 AM (Ezq3m)


----


Dont wory Abe.... Im pretty sure Justin or Miley will kick off before you.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 13, 2014 07:24 AM (nELVU)

250 Abe Vigoda is probably the only thing holding the contiuum together.Once he goes it may be the end of space/time.

Posted by: steevy at February 13, 2014 07:24 AM (zqvg6)

251 "Current Drew: You RINO how dare you pass a clean debt limit bill?!?" So Ted Cruz is a RINO, or did you just not read the post?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:25 AM (rCOda)

252 247 That's what gives me Absolute Moral Authority to say it. this is true i'll give you a pass this time

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 07:25 AM (At8tV)

253 “I didn’t want this to come down to just be a criticized vote for just a few of our people. It just wasn’t right,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), who fought off a primary challenger in 2012 and is serving his last term. The country's damn near bankrupt? Meh. We have more important things to worry about. Like civility.

Posted by: Zakonar at February 13, 2014 07:26 AM (GJGsz)

254 250 Abe Vigoda is probably the only thing holding the contiuum together.Once he goes it may be the end of space/time. Bernice, I'm gonna be late tonight...I have to go stop Galactus from eating the galaxy.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at February 13, 2014 07:26 AM (Ezq3m)

255 Abe Vigoda or Betty White?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 13, 2014 07:26 AM (+lpuZ)

256 235 Kirk looks better than Michael.

Posted by: steevy at February 13, 2014 07:26 AM (zqvg6)

257 Abe Vigoda is probably the only thing holding the contiuum together.Once he goes it may be the end of space/time.

Posted by: steevy at February 13, 2014 11:24 AM (zqvg6)


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I been saying the same thing about Johnny Carson.    If you stop and think about it.....  the decline of the Nation started once he left the "Tonight Show".

Posted by: fixerupper at February 13, 2014 07:26 AM (nELVU)

258 248 ... If past performance is any indicator of future results,then no. They certainly would not.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 07:27 AM (VXk4i)

259 you know, its not even 6:30am and I have drank two peronis, and now i'm eating boxed pizza and will hit the beach in about an hour life is good

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 13, 2014 07:28 AM (At8tV)

260 I been saying the same thing about Johnny Carson. If you stop and think about it..... the decline of the Nation started once he left the "Tonight Show". I tried to give Mitch McConnel some of my chin...

Posted by: Jay Leno at February 13, 2014 07:28 AM (Ezq3m)

261 >>“I didn’t want this to come down to just be a criticized vote for just a few of *our people*. It just wasn’t right,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), who fought off a primary challenger in 2012 and is serving his last term. I'm shocked, shocked that Orrin Hatch considers his fellow senators to be his constituents rather than the citizens of Utah. Shocked.

Posted by: homeschool mama at February 13, 2014 07:28 AM (c2Syg)

262 >>> 12 Republicans wound up voting with Obama Good phrasing for primary challengers to use.

Posted by: fluffy at February 13, 2014 07:28 AM (Ua6T/)

263

Yeah, who does this Cruz guy think he is?  Joe Sixpack hates  people like him.  Unlike Jeb.  Now there's a  REAL man!

Posted by: Hollowhead at February 13, 2014 07:29 AM (TOk1P)

264 And I believe the majority of the turned votes have leadership positions on committees. McConnell, McCarthy, and Cantor turning screws behind the scenes again. They absolutely have to go.

Posted by: RWC at February 13, 2014 07:29 AM (J2J7+)

265 So Ted Cruz is a RINO, or did you just not read the post?

I did read it.  You, obviously, did not comprehend it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 07:29 AM (SY2Kh)

266 Thats right, Senator Hatch. Don't stand on principle, it's better to worry about what people may say about your colleagues and vote accordingly. This is why we are fucked.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 13, 2014 07:29 AM (Lo5Rt)

267 "Kirk looks better than Michael." I've been thinking for awhile that Mike's gonna kick off before Kirk does.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:29 AM (rCOda)

268 Even Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 07:29 AM (Ezq3m)

269 Can someone explain the voting procedure? The number of votes required for passage is a moving target?

Posted by: Titanium at February 13, 2014 07:30 AM (VhPjL)

270 I'm smarter than you prole.

Posted by: Your RINO Better at February 13, 2014 07:30 AM (Aif/5)

271 @151: More Dark Enlightenment

Are you refering to Mark Shea?  An article at patheos.com?

LOL

He got trolled, big-time.  (Either that, or the whole thing is an insane over-the-top parody.)   Read the comments, as well as Vox's (as of now) latest post.  I'm not sure exactly what the background of that bit of hysteria is, but that's pretty funny to anyone who knows what the DE actually is about.

Try Vox or Dalrock for the "religious" side of what the DE really is, or someone like Chateau Heartiste for the PUA side of it.

Posted by: Jabari at February 13, 2014 07:31 AM (tO352)

272 Thats right, Senator Hatch. Don't stand on principle, it's better to worry about what people may say about your colleagues and vote accordingly.

I'm shocked- nay, appalled- that there are politics being played amongst politicians in the political process.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 07:31 AM (SY2Kh)

273 "I did read it. You, obviously, did not comprehend it." Right, because posting a story about Cruz's actions on this vote means that Drew is abandoning his earlier position about "getting it over with". How could I miss that? It's right there...inside your head.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:32 AM (rCOda)

274 I'm shocked- nay, appalled- that there are politics being played amongst politicians in the political process. And so well, too. All these guys poll so terrifically. Everybody doesn't hate them.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 07:32 AM (Ezq3m)

275 Is the Celebrity Death Trio already complete?  Seymor Phillip Hoffman, Shirley Temple Black, and now Sid Caesar.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2014 07:32 AM (BAS5M)

276 @260 off my lawn, the nation began declining when Steve Allen left the Tonight Show.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 13, 2014 07:33 AM (xq1UY)

277 Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 13, 2014 11:29 AM (Lo5Rt)

I stand in awe of the voters in AZ and UT for their ability to overlook obvious demonstrated incompetence and failure to perform as they consistently vote for their rightful Senators

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 13, 2014 07:33 AM (o3MSL)

278

OT, but the horde might enjoy a look ahead to cheerleader season.  I mean, football.

 

It's only the Eagles but on a cold wintry day, with so many people dreading yet another shovelling of the drive, even Eagles cheerleader tryouts are better than no tryouts at all.

 

http://cbsloc.al/1dKRM26

 

Posted by: MTF at February 13, 2014 07:33 AM (B5y+v)

279 *must not develop crush on another politician... Must resist.... Must....*

Posted by: Y-not on the phone trying to be strong at February 13, 2014 10:24 AM (zDsvJ)

 

Never, ever do that.  That's what the Left has done with Obama and they've gone full retard.

 

And you never go full retard.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - President's Day Sale - All Red Hot Rage 15% Off! at February 13, 2014 07:34 AM (hLRSq)

280 Is the Celebrity Death Trio already complete? Shit, I forgot about PSM. I guess I wasn't considering him because of the generation and self-induced nature. I withdraw my speculation and hope I didn't name off the next trio...

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:35 AM (rCOda)

281

Don't know about the rest of you, but I absolutely LIVE to evangelize the various merits of the Establishment GOP to a group of Conservatives disillusioned with the party.

 

Can.Not.Do.It.Enough.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 07:35 AM (VXk4i)

282

Kirk looks better than Michael.

 

Golden Age vajayjay wasn't as poisonous back then.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2014 07:36 AM (zF6Iw)

283 I see that Michael Sheen is banging Sarah Silverman. I don't know how he does it. He goes through these hot celebs every year or two. He says this bullshit to the press how he prefers the UK but he lives the Hwd dream. His work is here, his kid is here, and all the women he is banging are here. He's such a nerdy looking guy, too.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 13, 2014 07:36 AM (NRYdU)

284 http://tinyurl.com/md5u7he Cruz vs our hapless leadership.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 07:37 AM (A98Xu)

285 The truth about the weasely GOP big spenders is that we have to change the environment around them in order to change them. I suggest changing said environment into something resembling a Red Widow. Pour encourager l'autres.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 13, 2014 07:37 AM (naUcP)

286 Can someone explain the voting procedure? The number of votes required for passage is a moving target?

They wanted to pass a clean debt ceiling bill, knowing there was little chance of winning any concessions over it.

Leadership wanted it passed with a majority vote, allowing it to pass only with Dem votes.  This would've required unanimous consent to allow the vote to proceed.

Cruz objected to unanimous consent (effectively a filibuster).  To allow a vote on the bill to proceed (cloture) therefore required 60 votes.

12 Republicans plus the Dems provided the 60 votes needed for cloture, thus allowing a vote on the actual bill.

Once the actual vote occurred, it passed with 51 Dem votes.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 07:37 AM (SY2Kh)

287 PSH also stands for pants-shitting-hysteria, and he's already, in his death throes as it were, single-handedly reinvigorated the Wars on both Drugs and Guns.

I already didn't care much for him when he was alive. He's headed downhill fast.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 13, 2014 07:38 AM (xq1UY)

288 260 off my lawn, the nation began declining when Steve Allen left the Tonight Show.

 

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 13, 2014 11:33 AM (xq1UY)

 

Off my lawn.  We haven't had a moral center in America since the death of J. Fred Muggs.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2014 07:38 AM (zF6Iw)

289 "I see that Michael Sheen is banging Sarah Silverman. I don't know how he does it. He goes through these hot celebs every year or two." I don't think he'll be with her long; I'm fairly sure she doesn't like anal and I've a sneaking suspicion that he does.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:38 AM (rCOda)

290 or Abe Vigoda. God dammit, people have been naming me as the third celebrity to die for twenty years. b. February 24, 1921.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 07:40 AM (ndIek)

291

289 -

 

Plus, she's a strident lefty, with a screechy voice... and she wets the bed, so I would imagine lots and lots and lots of men have gotten tired of her over the  last few years. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 13, 2014 07:40 AM (TOk1P)

292 I don't think he'll be with her long; I'm fairly sure she doesn't like anal and I've a sneaking suspicion that he does. Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 11:38 AM (rCOda) How can you tell? Is it a welsh thing?

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 13, 2014 07:41 AM (NRYdU)

293 >>They wanted to pass a clean debt ceiling bill, knowing there was little chance of winning any concessions over it. No chance. Zip, Zero, Zilch. Other than that, correct. RINO.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 07:41 AM (g1DWB)

294
I know we are pantless by moronitude, but I think it would be safe to wear those Norwegian curler snazzy pants around here.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 13, 2014 07:41 AM (n0DEs)

295

To paraphrase the GOP Evangelical ...

 

... RINOs wanted the bill to pass, THEY just didn't want to vote for it.

 

Because of their commitment to fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 07:42 AM (VXk4i)

296 Right, because voting with the Dems is totes the right thing to do.

Posted by: [/i]KG at February 13, 2014 07:42 AM (p7BzH)

297 Guess I should clean house and write while it downloads.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 13, 2014 11:22 AM (+lpuZ)

You should upgrade to a 14.4k modem.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 13, 2014 07:42 AM (QFxY5)

298

We haven't had a moral center in America since the death of J. Fred Muggs.

 

 

You sure he's gone to that great banana farm in the sky?

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2014 07:42 AM (BAS5M)

299 >>It's not up to the RNC to allow or disallow it anymore than they "allow" Cruz and Paul to solicit for their respective PACs.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 11:19 AM (SY2Kh)

I know - I didn't mean it literally. Just amazes me someone didn't drop by and say something like, "Uh, Pete? The enemy is over there (points to White House). How about you use your resources on attacking their ideas instead of those of your colleagues in the Senate?"

And yeah, I already know why that wouldn't happen: they agree with Pete King about those pesky upstarts rocking the boat.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 13, 2014 07:43 AM (POpqt)

300 Because of their commitment to fiscal responsibility. ------- You little people are just too dumb to understand politics. Get back to the factory.

Posted by: Your RINO Betters at February 13, 2014 07:43 AM (Aif/5)

301 No chance. Zip, Zero, Zilch. Mitch McConnell said differently a little while ago. Oh right, smokescreen ultra-chess.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 13, 2014 07:43 AM (Ezq3m)

302 Apologies if it's one of those sites that should remain nameless on AOSHQ, but BuzzFeed Politics has an article that features my Congressman, Sam Johnson, titled "The Most Romantic Story in Congress". 

Sam Johnson is one of the reasons that I absolutely despise John McCain. 

Posted by: Usedtocould at February 13, 2014 07:44 AM (Q5wIZ)

303 3.07GB, over 932MB downloaded.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 13, 2014 07:44 AM (+lpuZ)

304 How about not passing it at all?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 07:44 AM (A98Xu)

305 >> RINOs wanted the bill to pass, THEY just didn't want to vote for it Yep.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 13, 2014 07:44 AM (zDsvJ)

306 I'll only feel good when McConnell actually loses the GOP nomination for his seat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 13, 2014 07:45 AM (UEiKc)

307 I've been a republican since I turned 18 in 1987.  After the last election I was so pissed off that I changed my registration from R to independent.  I recently switched my registration back to republican just for the joy of walking into the voting booth on primary day and voting against McConnell. 

He was recently supposed to appear at a business across town from me, but cancelled at the last minute.  I like to think it was because I planned on being there to ask him how Obama's cock tastes.

Posted by: Dennis at February 13, 2014 07:45 AM (4GVZG)

308 210 . "If we elect more Cruz' and more Lee's, the McConnell's of this world could become real assets."

That's like saying if we buy a tow truck that rusted out Rambler up on blocks out front becomes a real asset. Easier and cheaper to lose the Rambler.

Oh, and remind me how many debt ceilings Steve Stockman voted to raise, shadystockman.com ?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 13, 2014 07:45 AM (XO6WW)

309 note, ONLY Congress has the power to borrow Money... according to the Constitution. This Bill SUSPENDS the Debt Limit, giving authority to the Administration (Treasury Dept.) to borrow as much money as they want. This passed BOTH houses, when the GOP Leadership, the big WHIG's of the Party, voted for it. Thus, the GOP has ceded the Power of the Purse, to the Administration... at a time when we have a President who is actively telling us he wishes to Bypass Congress. This is the STUPID scenario where the bad guy has a gun on a hostage... and tells all the good guys to 'drop their guns'... even though the Bad buy has stated he is going to kill EVERYONE. GOP just dropped their gun...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 13, 2014 07:45 AM (84gbM)

310 Because of their commitment to fiscal responsibility.

Don't worry, after the election, the quivering blancmanges who are too scared to even *say* anything now will grow a spine three sizes that day!

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 13, 2014 07:45 AM (t8ySh)

311 What the fuck is up with the damn giant fucking Vermont Teddy Bears? Are these women 8 years old? Do real women in the real world get all horny-acting with giant teddy bears like they do in the commercials? I especially like the Bambi Women in the commercials who actually make bedroom eyes at the fucking bears...those are fucking google-eyes you retarded twits! And besides, your own narrator is telling these guys that they are going to get some if they buy the giant bear. But your Bambi Women look more like they want to get it on with the giant fucking teddy bears. Those fucking things will end up sold at the women's next yard sales, after they tell all their friends what losers their boyfriends are for buying the Giant Fucking Bear instead of some flowers or jewelry.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 13, 2014 07:45 AM (7ObY1)

312 Since they weren't going to get any concessions "No chance. Zip, Zero, Zilch. " why vote for it?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 07:46 AM (A98Xu)

313 Give me a break, guys. Most of the time, the LIVs fall for this "I'll pretend to vote against it" shit.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 13, 2014 07:47 AM (UEiKc)

314 Right, because posting a story about Cruz's actions on this vote means that Drew is abandoning his earlier position about "getting it over with".

When you advocate voting against something you previously supported, how is that not contradictory?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 07:47 AM (SY2Kh)

315 288

J Fred Mugss is alive, dammit! It's Garroway who couldn't take it no more!


Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 13, 2014 07:48 AM (xq1UY)

316 Drew, you jackass.  Matt Bevin is John Yarmuth's stalking horse, and he is not even remotely conservative.  You may not like Mitch McConnell - hell, I'm no big fan - but he has generally done a damned good job of keeping a fractious minority together when it's counted.

Posted by: Rocketeer at February 13, 2014 07:48 AM (zLcZD)

317 "Thus, the GOP has ceded the Power of the Purse, to the Administration... at a time when we have a President who is actively telling us he wishes to Bypass Congress." Thus rendering true the previously untrue statement about "there's nothing we can do". The GOP: We only have one half of one third of government? Here, you can have our half. Strategery!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:48 AM (rCOda)

318 >>Mitch McConnell said differently a little while ago. >>Oh right, smokescreen ultra-chess. And so did Harry Reid who said he would not allow a vote on any conditions to a debt ceiling raise with any conditions. And you keep overlooking the small fact that Boehner couldn't get enough Republicans in the House to vote for a raise under any circumstances. Got that? Could not get any bill under any circumstances with all Republican votes, and Dems in the House refused to vote on a debt ceiling with any conditions. So you tell me, what was the great strategic move here to get the Dems to relent and Obama to sign a debt ceiling with conditions?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 07:48 AM (g1DWB)

319 I can't wait for Senator Cruz to announce he is running for President and see the collective heads explode!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 13, 2014 07:48 AM (baL2B)

320

I get it now ... Drew's blog forced the RINOs to side with the Dems.

 

Should have seen that before.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 07:48 AM (VXk4i)

321 Sarah Silverman is a HOT celeb? Damn. I guess that Roseanne Barr is a real looker too, then? And Andrea Mitchell...hubba hubba!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 13, 2014 07:49 AM (7ObY1)

322 I know we are pantless by moronitude, but I think it would be safe to wear those Norwegian curler snazzy pants around here.>>

Are the Norwegians bringing back WWI navy Dazzel Camouflage>

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 13, 2014 07:49 AM (tf9Ne)

323 Those fucking things will end up sold at the women's next yard sales, after they tell all their friends what losers their boyfriends are for buying the Giant Fucking Bear instead of some flowers or jewelry. Where I swoop in, buy it for a penny on the dollar, and have a cheap "get out of jail free" card. Brilliant! Thanks losers!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 07:49 AM (ndIek)

324 The ONLY thing the idiot republicans have in their pocket is the zero, zip, zilch vote for Obamacare. Won't be the case concerning the debt limit while campaigning.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 07:49 AM (A98Xu)

325 Yeah, your wife must be ugly if you think Sarah Silverman is hot. Yikes.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 07:50 AM (A98Xu)

326 Matt Bevin is an agent of the fag agenda.

Posted by: Realist, Man. I'm a Realist! at February 13, 2014 07:50 AM (UEiKc)

327 67 Cornyn has a large number of very good challengers in the primary. My hope is we can pull him into a runoff just like we did with Dewhurst. Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 13, 2014 10:37 AM (kxSZr) AMEN! But don't we need to rally around ONE primary challenger? Duane Stovall has been in the race way longer than Steve Stockman- which makes me suspicious that Stockman was put up to entering to splinter the anti-Cornyn vote.

Posted by: Parteagirl at February 13, 2014 07:50 AM (Plx/u)

328 "So you tell me, what was the great strategic move here to get the Dems to relent and Obama to sign a debt ceiling with conditions?" Not voting for it.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 07:51 AM (A98Xu)

329 So you tell me, what was the great strategic move here to get the Dems to relent and Obama to sign a debt ceiling with conditions?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 11:48 AM (g1DWB)


{i}Obviously the answer is the vote with the Dems. I mean, duh.

Posted by: [/i]KG at February 13, 2014 07:51 AM (p7BzH)

330 Ah shit, format fail, stupid pinkie on shift key.

Posted by: [/i]KG at February 13, 2014 07:51 AM (p7BzH)

331

Posted by: Realist, Man. I'm a Realist! at February 13, 2014 11:50 AM (UEiKc)

=================================

 

Love the Team America, World Police references. 

Posted by: MTF at February 13, 2014 07:52 AM (B5y+v)

332 319 I can't wait for Senator Cruz to announce he is running for President and see the collective heads explode! Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 13, 2014 11:48 AM (baL2B) Nope... but how about... oh.... Attorney General? In the Palin or Perry Administration?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 13, 2014 07:53 AM (84gbM)

333 "Got that? Could not get any bill under any circumstances with all Republican votes," You're missing the point. There were many who didn't want to raise the debt limit. Why is this bad? Oh Optics, yeah, and perception, because we ALWAYS win that game.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 07:53 AM (A98Xu)

334 291
289 -

Plus, she's a strident lefty, with a screechy voice... and she wets the bed, so I would imagine lots and lots and lots of men have gotten tired of her over the last few years.

Well, I hear tell in some locales that "wets the bed" would be a feature & not a bug....

Posted by: backhoe at February 13, 2014 07:53 AM (ULH4o)

335

New Strategy ... When your opposition won't negotiate - just give 'em everything.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 07:53 AM (VXk4i)

336 Late to the thread, but this story warms my cold little heart.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2014 07:53 AM (DmNpO)

337 >>So you tell me, what was the great strategic move here to get the Dems to relent and Obama to sign a debt ceiling with conditions?" >>Not voting for it. Ah, so shutting down the government. Cause that worked so well for us the last time and it sure wouldn't have thrown a lifeline to the Dems and the msm who are looking for anything to distract the public from the disaster that is Obamacare and the economy. Genius. Why didn't I think of that.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 07:54 AM (g1DWB)

338
Ah, so shutting down the government. Cause that worked so well for us the last time and it sure wouldn't have thrown a lifeline to the Dems and the msm who are looking for anything to distract the public from the disaster that is Obamacare and the economy. Genius.

Why didn't I think of that.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 11:54 AM (g1DWB)


Yes! The Republicans have to vote with the Dems. It's the only way to get shit done.




How else are they to kick the can down the road?

Posted by: [/i]KG at February 13, 2014 07:55 AM (p7BzH)

339 note, ONLY Congress has the power to borrow Money... according to the Constitution.

This Bill SUSPENDS the Debt Limit, giving authority to the Administration (Treasury Dept.) to borrow as much money as they want.

You are a buffoon.

The debt limit is a Congressionally imposed, feel-good gimmick.  Congress still controls spending limits.  Treasury borrows to cover the debts rung up by Congress. 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 07:56 AM (SY2Kh)

340

>>"But yesterday he delivered an enormous gift to McConnell's primary opponent Matt Bevin and once again showed what a bunch of feckless hacks so much of the GOP is."

 

 

You're way too kind.

Posted by: rrpjr at February 13, 2014 07:56 AM (s/yC1)

341 This must be his attraction to women: Sheen's worth 145 million. He made 45 mil last year alone. One website said he was only worth 3 mil which is on its face b.s. He works alot. Apparently, he has invested wisely: http://en.mediamass.net/people/michael-sheen/highest-paid.html

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 13, 2014 07:56 AM (NRYdU)

342 Good news. The economic wheels are falling off of the Fourth Reich.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 13, 2014 07:56 AM (6bMeY)

343 Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 11:48 AM (g1DWB) The allegation is constantly made, that there was NO Bill the Repubs could get behind... I find that very hard to believe... that they would rather SURRENDER to the Dems, than surrender to each other on a Bill... So... sorry.... don't buy it... that is the LEADERSHIP talking... the same Leadership that just voted with the Dems.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 13, 2014 07:56 AM (84gbM)

344 Speaking of Sarah Silverman:

http://tinyurl.com/6orss7m

NSFW because of language.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 13, 2014 07:57 AM (QFxY5)

345 "When you advocate voting against something you previously supported, how is that not contradictory?" Oh FFS. It's not. The problem is that you're being willfully obtuse about what Drew advocates for. (Hint: think about what "get it over with" means)

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 07:57 AM (rCOda)

346 How often did you cradle yourself in the fetal position over government shut down?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 07:57 AM (A98Xu)

347

“Allowing the debt ceiling to go up without addressing our fiscal challenge would be the most irresponsible thing that I could do,” Boehner said in a speech yesterday before a conference in Washington sponsored by the Peter G. Peterson Foundation.



Bloomberg  may 2012


so .

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:58 AM (nqBYe)

348 holy crap I found this link over at thegatewaypundit (showing the Koch Bros #59, way behind the unions on party donations) The numbers are staggering: http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Countdown to V-Day... at February 13, 2014 07:58 AM (IXrOn)

349 >>Oh Optics, yeah, and perception, because we ALWAYS win that game. Guess what? We currently are winning that game big time. Obamacare, the economy, Obama's increasing lawlessness, shitty foreign policy, etc.. Latest big time Dem to defect is Jonathan Turley, huge liberal lawyer/commentator who is now warning that Obama is becoming a tyrant. All the debt limit does is allow the Treasury to borrow for debts we have already incurred. There is no new spending in it. And we could not win this fight. So why would you want to give liberals any issue to run on?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 07:58 AM (g1DWB)

350

Obama : I open pawn, d2 to d4.

McConnell : That looks like checkmate to me, Mr. President. How do you do it?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 07:58 AM (VXk4i)

351 Apparently "feckless hacks" means "not wanting to look like a gang of retards in an election year"

Posted by: Jeff at February 13, 2014 07:58 AM (vd6Gd)

352

Lawmakers shouldnÂ’t worry about another battle over the debt limit because it will require them to make difficult and long-delayed budget decisions, said Boehner.

“It’s an action-forcing event in a town that’s become infamous for inaction,” he said. Congress may have to approve multiple debt-limit increases to meet Republicans’ demands for spending cuts, said Boehner

Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 07:59 AM (nqBYe)

353 Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 11:57 AM (rCOda) ----- He knows exactly what he's doing.

Posted by: Adam at February 13, 2014 08:01 AM (Aif/5)

354 "Guess what? We currently are winning that game big time. Obamacare, the economy, Obama's increasing lawlessness, shitty foreign policy, etc.. Latest big time Dem to defect is Jonathan Turley, huge liberal lawyer/commentator who is now warning that Obama is becoming a tyrant. " Majority of dems still think Bush is responsible for the economy. THE ONLY THING rebups are winning is the Obamacare fiasco. Why? Because not one of them voted for it. And Obama is shooting himself in the foot with his policies, it's not the repubs winning anything.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 08:01 AM (A98Xu)

355

Sarah Silverman?

 

For 10 bucks, Sheen could play a loop of Phyllis Diller having a climax while sticking his dick into a rancid jar of gefiltefish and get the same audio and visual sensation.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2014 08:02 AM (zF6Iw)

356 "Oh Optics, yeah, and perception, because we ALWAYS win that game. Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 11:53 AM (A98Xu)" Remember, if the Republicans vote with the Dems, the Dems will quit telling the LIVs that the Repubs are trying to destroy the economy. Strategery!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 08:02 AM (rCOda)

357 So why would you want to give liberals any issue to run on?

Surrender Dorothy.

Posted by: Wicked With of the East at February 13, 2014 08:02 AM (kVfSG)

358 usa today  sept. 2013

There is no need for market-rattling showdowns or brinksmanship in the discussion this fall. The sooner President Obama starts to work with both parties to solve Washington's spending problem, the better it will be for our economy.

This issue isn't just about dollars and cents. Unless we deal with this spending problem honestly and forthrightly, our kids and grandkids are going to face a much dimmer future. And we simply won't have prosperity — today, or in the future — unless we address the massive deficits and debt that are hurting our economy and jeopardizing the American dream.

Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, is speaker of the House.


Posted by: willow at February 13, 2014 08:02 AM (nqBYe)

359 You are a buffoon. The debt limit is a Congressionally imposed, feel-good gimmick. Congress still controls spending limits. Treasury borrows to cover the debts rung up by Congress. Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 11:56 AM (SY2Kh) Buffoon??? Please point out the Spending Bills passed??? Where Congress actually CONTROLS the Spending? Oh... wait... continuing resolutions with built in increases due to baseline spending. And hmmm.... the CONSTITUTION is the one that says Congress borrows money.... or is it Buffonery (is that a word??? LOL) to point out what the Highest Law of the Land says? I guess it is.... if you are so enamored of your 'Team' that you are willing to defend their cheating.... kinda like Patriot fans a few years ago...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 13, 2014 08:02 AM (84gbM)

360 I'd never hear of the Dark Enlightenment before but according to the innertubes its primary characteristics are

 A rejection of sociological universalism, and a preference for particularism.

- An acceptance of human biodiversity.

- An acceptance of Darwinian evolution, shunning egalitarian political correctness both from the left and from the Trotskyite right.

- On religion, if not agnostic or atheistic, then a preference for ancestral neopaganism or a form of Christianity that is ethnocentric and particularist.

- An acceptance of science and futurism as a means to improve at least some peoplesÂ’ lives while not rejecting oneÂ’s ancestral folkways (i.e. archeofuturism).  And a recognition that ‘progressÂ’ will be available only to some, and not the entire human population.

- A rejection of The Cathedral (or whatever other names it goes by, such as Universalism or Political Correctness).

- The recognition that there is no single best political order.  As Aristotle notes in the Politics, some ethnies are better suited for monarchy; others, for aristocracy; others, for a limited form of politea.

- Skepticism about mass Third World immigration and the realization that human populations are not fungible but unique.

- A realization that liberty is incompatible with democracy, and that democracy leads to mediocrity.

-  A realization that terms like ‘liberalÂ’ and ‘conservativeÂ’ and ‘feministÂ’ are beyond their expiration date.

- A concern with bio-politics, oriented to a particular peopleÂ’s biological and demographic imperatives.

- A rejection of egalitarianism.

OK, I don't even understand several of those. "Human biodiversity"?  Is this a Nazi-like belief that some ar43e born better than others?  And what the hell is the "Trotskite right"?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 13, 2014 08:02 AM (XUKZU)

361 OT.
http://www.indystar.com/story/life/2014/02/12/indys-last-pornographer/5373299/

Posted by: HR at February 13, 2014 08:03 AM (ZKzrr)

362 I'm no Karl Rove ... but I don't think the "Hang in with us in 2014" RINO campaign is going too well.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 08:03 AM (VXk4i)

363 The WSJ slams Cruz for this move however, unless I'm overlooking it, the coward writer didn't bother signing his write-up. http://t.co/BxyNKMTrOG

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2014 08:04 AM (DmNpO)

364 Darwin is dead.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 13, 2014 08:04 AM (6bMeY)

365 WalrusRex, Dark Enlightenment is a creed adopted by spoiled pampered guilty First World children who hate their parents.  Its a temper tantrum masquerading as a Cause.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 13, 2014 08:04 AM (+lpuZ)

366 Ace, I'm fscking furious. Why are you loading audio through your main page, so I get hit with the word N*gger (and a whole lot more) in some un-funny nightclub comedy? Oh, and your god-damned spam filter won;t allow me to post on your site what you are loading into my audio. Figure it out.

Posted by: haakondahl at February 13, 2014 08:04 AM (SGt7E)

367 "Guess what? We currently are winning that game big time. Obamacare, the economy, Obama's increasing lawlessness, shitty foreign policy, etc.. Latest big time Dem to defect is Jonathan Turley, huge liberal lawyer/commentator who is now warning that Obama is becoming a tyrant." Right, because the voting masses that elected Obama are paying close attention to the things you mentioned, other than Obamacare. So perhaps you could explain exactly what the Republicans are doing about Obamacare. Or, if they're not doing anything, what they plan to do. Looks like more wishful thinking on your part.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 08:05 AM (rCOda)

368 So you tell me, what was the great strategic move here to get the Dems to relent and Obama to sign a debt ceiling with conditions?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 11:48 AM (g1DWB)

 

 

There isn't a great strategic move, not with the MSM providing Obama and Reid with all of the cover they can ask for.  and if thigs are pushed to confrontation again we end up with Obama shutting down the government once more, and then all of the fun that we saw in October happens once again.  In the end the only ones who suffer politically from that are Republicans, the Democrats have a distraction from ObamaCare and all of the other fun stuff of the Obama administration and we eventually end up with a debt ceiling hike anyway.

 

Other than expressing frustration and anger at the course Obama and the Democrats have set for the country and the damage they have done to it, risking a shutdown now after the shutdown in October doesn't make much sense to me politically.*

 

*As a matter of principle it makes sense, but we are also operating in a political realm, and principles without power only result in anger, frustration, and despair.  We need power first so that we can maneuvar at all.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - President's Day Sale - All Red Hot Rage 15% Off! at February 13, 2014 08:06 AM (hLRSq)

369 Right, because the voting masses that elected Obama are paying close attention to the things you mentioned, other than Obamacare. So perhaps you could explain exactly what the Republicans are doing about Obamacare. Or, if they're not doing anything, what they plan to do. Looks like more wishful thinking on your part. Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 12:05 PM (rCOda) What I was trying to say.

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 08:07 AM (A98Xu)

370 Yesssss!!!!! Rasmussen --which has been lagging--now has Obama's approval and disapproval at an 11% spread. Obama--Disapprove 55% Approve -44%

Posted by: tasker at February 13, 2014 08:07 AM (RJMhd)

371 At least Tim Conway and Don Knotts pulled it off in the end.  This Apple Dumpling Gang of McConnell and Cornyn - not  so much.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2014 08:07 AM (BAS5M)

372 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 13, 2014 12:02 PM ------------------------------------------- OK. That was funny right there.

Posted by: irright at February 13, 2014 08:07 AM (pMGkg)

373 >>The allegation is constantly made, that there was NO Bill the Repubs could get behind... >>I find that very hard to believe... that they would rather SURRENDER to the Dems, than surrender to each other on a Bill... >>So... sorry.... don't buy it... that is the LEADERSHIP talking... the same Leadership that just voted with the Dems. You don't have to buy it. >>Boehner “couldn’t get 218 Republicans to agree on anything tied to the debt ceiling,” said Rep. Pat Tiberi, R-Genoa Township, who was among those voting no. He said Boehner was forced to put a simple debt-ceiling increase on the floor after President Barack Obama and congressional Democratic leaders pushed their members not to vote for any debt-ceiling increase with legislative provisions attached. >>He did so after a contentious Monday meeting of his Republican caucus in which it became clear he did not have 218 votes to pass the debt ceiling. >>“There just weren’t the votes,” said Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Urbana, who attended the meeting. “It was obvious.” http://tinyurl.com/oevuu92 So Jim Jordan, one of the guys leading the fight against the IRS targeting of conservative groups, is now a RINO liar?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 08:08 AM (g1DWB)

374

What will the useless fuckers do if they actually WIN the Senate ? Imagine all the excuses then for crossing the aisle and voting with minority Dems.

 

"Well, we had to. Barry will just veto us."

 

"Well, we had to. The media will kill us if we don't."

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 13, 2014 08:09 AM (VXk4i)

375 Buffoon??? Please point out the Spending Bills passed??? Where Congress actually CONTROLS the Spending?

Do the words "Continuing Resolution" ring a bell?  It got more than a little attention here and elsewhere.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 13, 2014 08:10 AM (SY2Kh)

376 Posted by: WalrusRex at February 13, 2014 12:02 PM (XUKZU) Damn.... had never heard of it before... but I have to admit I agree with about 3/4s of those statements...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 13, 2014 08:10 AM (84gbM)

377 This is comical.

Posted by: Soothsayer says, at February 13, 2014 08:10 AM (mQ2Jz)

378 Disapprove 55%

What percentage of them are unhappy with the quantity/quality of the Free Shit he promised?


Posted by: HR at February 13, 2014 08:11 AM (ZKzrr)

379 OK, I don't even understand several of those. "Human biodiversity"? Is this a Nazi-like belief that some ar43e born better than others? And what the hell is the "Trotskite right"? Posted by: WalrusRex That is some authentic frontier gibberish!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 13, 2014 08:11 AM (ndIek)

380

Normally, I don't register with a party because I don't think the state needs to know I have *any* particular affiliation.  Two years ago, I registered as a republican in my state (TX) so I could vote for Ted Cruz in the primary.

 

This year, I will vote against John Cornyn in every election I have a chance to vote in, and I will continue doing that until that POS is out of office.  To hear the campaign spots he is running in Texas makes me nauseous.  The man has no principles I can detect, certainly none I can support.

Posted by: Advo at February 13, 2014 08:12 AM (7vbG1)

381 "An acceptance of Darwinian evolution..."

Um....for the ignorant; evolution is a fact. Darwin's theories tried to explain the fact of evolution.

But most of his theories have been superseded by a bunch of better-documented theories.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 13, 2014 08:12 AM (QFxY5)

382 So Jim Jordan, one of the guys leading the fight against the IRS targeting of conservative groups, is now a RINO liar? Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 12:08 PM (g1DWB) So... one contentious meeting... and then a quick vote??? Do you BUILD concensus in a meeting?? no.... you do it before... or after.. the meeting. You work the room... you spend TIME putting something together. Hell.... I blew up a project I didn't like on purpose one time... by calling a Meeting... and just letting it run...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 13, 2014 08:13 AM (84gbM)

383 From the sidebar "Jonathan Turley: Eight Police Officers Fire 103 Times At Two Unarmed Women Delivering Newspapers . . . Commission Rejects Calls For Any Officer To Be Fired Or Even Suspended" I don't know what's worse. Cops who can't hit the people they're shooting at, or cops who fortunately miss those they're shooting at, or cops who shoot for no good reason and get off.

Posted by: ExSnipe at February 13, 2014 08:13 AM (LKJt3)

384 I don't think the state needs to know I have *any* particular affiliation.

Posted by: Advo at February 13, 2014 12:12 PM (7vbG1)

You just announced your affiliation far and wide.

Posted by: NSA at February 13, 2014 08:14 AM (QFxY5)

385 Evolution is the creation myth of the atheist faith.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 13, 2014 08:14 AM (6bMeY)

386 Okay, so the R strategy is to lay back and take it and wait for the dems to screw up. Fine. But when is the R strategy different than that?

Posted by: Seems legit at February 13, 2014 08:15 AM (A98Xu)

387 This is not the hill to vote on.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 13, 2014 08:16 AM (6bMeY)

388 >>Right, because the voting masses that elected Obama are paying close attention to the things you mentioned, other than Obamacare. So perhaps you could explain exactly what the Republicans are doing about Obamacare. Or, if they're not doing anything, what they plan to do. They are planning to win in November. Save doing that there isn't much they can do. Obamacare passed with all Dem votes, remember? They controlled the House and the Senate and the Presidency. Being in power matters. They have put forward a number of alternatives calling first for the repeal of Obamacare. But they can't do squat other than bitch and moan, pretty much what we do here everyday, without at the very least having both the House and the Senate. Shutting down the government over the debt ceiling right now has zero upside for us and plenty of down. I thought that would have been obvious after what happened last fall. As shitty as a debt ceiling is we do not have the votes to stop it right now. Better to pass it and get it out of the way and win in the fall. You know, what Drew advocated not to long ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 08:16 AM (g1DWB)

389 Folks better start defining "evolution" before this gets out of hand. The word has a myriad of different meanings depending on who is using it.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 13, 2014 08:17 AM (fP3se)

390 311

As a more senior 'ette, I've never understood Vermont Teddy Bears.  Assumed it was a young woman thing.  Do have to brag though.  As this Valentine's Day will be number 30 for us, husband bought me a new carry piece.  It's a Kahr P380 Black Rose Edition.   It's going to be in the 70's this weekend and we are most definitely going to the range.

Posted by: Usedtocould at February 13, 2014 08:17 AM (Q5wIZ)

391 It's past time for conservatives to form the American Anti-Incumbency Party.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 13, 2014 08:17 AM (qNZ3I)

392

Two years ago, I registered as a republican in my state (TX) so I could vote for Ted Cruz in the primary.

 

Are  you sure about  registering as anything in TX?  You might want to go  check your voter registration card.  We'll wait.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 13, 2014 08:17 AM (BAS5M)

393 Nood Cruz Missile up..

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 13, 2014 08:18 AM (ojnk6)

394 We don't have party registration in my state.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 13, 2014 08:18 AM (6bMeY)

395 >>So... one contentious meeting... and then a quick vote??? Did you not realize they just had a Republican retreat a couple weeks ago where they talked about this for days? Thats when it became clear there were no Republican votes. Boehner's meeting to announce a clean debt ceiling yesterday took about 10 minutes when he announced that he could not get Republican agreement on debt ceiling with conditions so he was just going to offer a clean one. This has been all over political sites for weeks. Yesterday was completely predictable and anti-climatic. Seriously, do some of you guys read what is going on at all or just come here to bitch?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 08:20 AM (g1DWB)

396 So.....if the rank and file says they'll think about not voting, or even voting for Democrats, they are traitors. But when the leadership votes with the Demcorats, they are doing the smart thing. Got it.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 13, 2014 08:21 AM (1Y+hH)

397 The WSJ slams Cruz for this move however, unless I'm overlooking it, the coward writer didn't bother signing his write-up. http://t.co/BxyNKMTrOG Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 13, 2014 12:04 PM (DmNpO) when they don't sign, it's usually the editorial board/editors, I think... this is not rare

Posted by: artisanal 'ette: Countdown to V-Day... at February 13, 2014 08:21 AM (IXrOn)

398 I must say, I'm quite liking the cut of this Cruz fellow's jib.

Posted by: Luke at February 13, 2014 08:26 AM (32FX2)

399 "Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 12:16 PM (g1DWB)" Actually, there's plenty they can do, but it's just easier to sit back and say "there's nothing they can do". But what is it that Republicans want to do about Obamacare? Replace it? Replace it with what? What recently came up as important on the agenda? Amnesty. When they could be talking about Obamacare. There is no more evidence to support your wishful thinking than there was last time you were on here sprinkling fairy dust. I keep asking you this, but what evidence do you have that Republicans will even halt the growth of government, let alone reverse it?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 13, 2014 08:26 AM (rCOda)

400 390 311

As a more senior 'ette, I've never understood Vermont Teddy Bears. Assumed it was a young woman thing. Do have to brag though. As this Valentine's Day will be number 30 for us, husband bought me a new carry piece. It's a Kahr P380 Black Rose Edition. It's going to be in the 70's this weekend and we are most definitely going to the range.

Posted by: Usedtocould at February 13, 2014 12:17 PM (Q5wIZ)


My husband has better since than to give me a giant teddy bear, as I would stab it, removing stuffing and insert him into it upon receipt of this dust-collecting monstrosity.Tres weird unless you are Ava on Justified and in the big house and it will keep you warm at night. Otherwise, whiskey tango foxtrot?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 13, 2014 08:30 AM (baL2B)

401 ^ "better sense" doh. I am hongry, as Rachael would say. wut.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 13, 2014 08:32 AM (baL2B)

402 >>Actually, there's plenty they can do, but it's just easier to sit back and say "there's nothing they can do" Like what. You keep making this assertion so back it up. >>But what is it that Republicans want to do about Obamacare? Replace it? Replace it with what? What recently came up as important on the agenda? Amnesty. When they could be talking about Obamacare. There is no more evidence to support your wishful thinking than there was last time you were on here sprinkling fairy dust. Yea, I guess you couldn't take the time to read the plan put out by the Coburn group in the Senate that clear laid out exactly what they would repeal (step 1 in the plan) and replace Obamacare with. Better to just insist there are no plans. And God knows, no Republican is talking about Obamacare except when the do every damn day. >>I keep asking you this, but what evidence do you have that Republicans will even halt the growth of government, let alone reverse it? Did you miss the Ryan budget too? The House only passed it (only to have Harry Reid sit on it) and Romney and Ryan only ran on doing just that last cycle. Other than that, yea, nothing. It's only you that realizes the country is rapidly hurtling toward insolvency. You go with that. And don't forget, it was my wishful thinking that said Cruz's shutdown would fail miserably ( it did ) and once Obamacare was allowed to rollout it would prove to be a disaster for the Dems ( it is ). I'll take my wishful thinking over yours anyway.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 08:38 AM (g1DWB)

403 Hate to break it to y'all, but Mitch McConnell isn't going to lose in a primary that is less than 100 days from now.

Posted by: rockmom at February 13, 2014 08:43 AM (vE1mx)

404 Seriously, do some of you guys read what is going on at all or just come here to bitch? Posted by: JackStraw at February 13, 2014 12:20 PM (g1DWB) So.. its your contention that the Repub caucus would vote through a Cost of Living decrease for Retired Vets... based on the Leadership saying vote for it.... without even really knowing what was in it... But could not even come up with a NUMBER to RAISE the Debt limit.... they had to suspend it?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 13, 2014 08:58 AM (84gbM)

405 Unpossibly difficult conserving our ammo not the hill to die on minority party wait til November...

We're Number Two!
We're Number Two!
We're Number Two!

Posted by: Fightin' John Boehner [/i] [/b] at February 13, 2014 09:22 AM (5ikDv)

406 Drew just a few weeks ago you were agonizing about whether McConnell should be primaried by Bevin, remember "Time Will Tell", and the out of control tea party?   You were really concerned.  Feel better yet?  Oh, and for the record, only somewhat related: NEVER FORGET SARAH PALIN ENDORSED BORIN' ORIN HATCH.

Posted by: Born Free at February 13, 2014 09:35 AM (xL8Hf)

407 WSJ said yesterday that Mitch & Cornyn didn't want to yes votes because they have tough primary opponents. I love Cruz!

Posted by: Carol at February 13, 2014 12:27 PM (chqG9)

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