February 23, 2014

Gun Thread (2-23-2014)
— andy

Happy 5.56mm day

Retired Liberal Wishcasts A New Constitution

I presume John Paul Stevens doesn't see a need to revisit lifetime judicial appointments, but he'd like to tweak the 2nd Amendment a bit. His version would read:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms when serving in the militia shall not be infringed.

I'm sure the left is oohing and ahhing over this, but Stevens' suggestion is pretty funny when you bump it up against the existing U.S. code.

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Looks like John Paul Stevens wants to disarm women who aren't in the National Guard, transgendered folk and oldsters to me. Teh H8R!!

Now about that lifetime appointment ...


More really stupid people: How “Crazy Eddy” Markey Intends to Destroy the Entire U.S. Handgun Market, The Carrie Nation of the Gun Prohibitionist Movement lies to America. Again. Still.


Detective that claimed “we don’t have time for this” before killing 90-pound teen is indicted for voluntary manslaughter

These judge+jury+executioner incidents seem to be happening more often these days, but the cops always seem to get away with little or no punishment. There appears to be at least a slim chance for justice in this case.

Related: Man Charged With Killing Burleson County Deputy No Billed by Grand Jury


Gun Of The Week

(answer below) Marksmanship Award



Gun Of The Week - Answer

That's the Bren Ten, the gun the 10mm Auto cartridge was designed for. Its claim to fame was being the sidearm of Miami Vice's Sonny Crockett and was a hot commodity in the mid-1980s. I had one on order myself, but the company folded before it was delivered. Its return to production has long been rumored, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Related: Larry Correia's MHI STI 10mm longslide


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1 I got nuttin'....but first.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 23, 2014 12:07 PM (bCEmE)

2 Detective that claimed “we don’t have time for this” before killing 90-pound teen is indicted for voluntary manslaughter The liberals will tell you that only the police should have guns. If that became the case, they'd likely use them even MORE carelessly.

Posted by: --- at February 23, 2014 12:11 PM (MMC8r)

3 No knock drug raid gone bad.  We need to eliminate all the drugs laws.  We lost that war long ago.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 23, 2014 12:12 PM (T2V/1)

4 That Bren Ten is a nice looking pistol.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2014 12:12 PM (QFxY5)

5 *scribbles down Bren Ten furiously* That one's a beauty

Posted by: L, elle at February 23, 2014 12:15 PM (0xqKe)

6 So, the smart gun bill won't pass (I hope), but how long till we see an executive order to that effect?

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:15 PM (5yLmw)

7 So anyone got any favorite places they use for ammo? Gunbroker dot com and luckygunner dot com are typically where I head for online purchases.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 12:17 PM (GEICT)

8 Hey Bomber --- I passed around your Christmas coming home video. Without exception, everyone cried. Hope your family is well.

Posted by: L, elle at February 23, 2014 12:18 PM (0xqKe)

9 Very timely. Used but excellent condition (I can't find any marks at all) full sized Smith m&p .45, what's it worth? I'm not a m&p guy, but I'm always on lookout for good deal.

Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 12:18 PM (cs+se)

10

I followed the development and introduction of the Bren in the '80s, and made a firm commitment to avoid 'em like the plague.

 

 

Regardless of Col. Cooper's enthusiasm for the project, the thing was rushed through design and development, insufficiently tested, poorly produced and left a whole bunch of investors wondering where their money went.

 

 

I don't need a cool gun, don't need a sexy gun.  What I do need is a gun proven to function whenever needed, and in whatever environment might be present.

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 23, 2014 12:21 PM (vvk2F)

11 Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 04:18 PM (cs+se) Msrp on a new one is around $600

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 12:22 PM (GEICT)

12 >>> What I do need is a gun proven to function whenever needed, and in whatever environment might be present.

So, 1911.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:22 PM (5yLmw)

13 Thanks L, elle.  They're all good.  Tired of winter, but good.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:23 PM (5yLmw)

14 Thanks for the info and buzzkill Jim in TX. So, it's a piece of good looking junk? I'd rather know than not know.

Posted by: L, elle at February 23, 2014 12:24 PM (0xqKe)

15 Detective that claimed “we don’t have time for this” before killing 90-pound teen is indicted for voluntary manslaughter *** Wouldn't that be textbook murder?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2014 12:24 PM (M3hAT)

16 IIRC, the Bren Ten was born when Jeff Cooper noted that the then-new CZ-75 was the best auto pistol in the world, but for its cartridge (the 9mm, Cooper's "Europellet").

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 12:26 PM (celt+)

17 Wiki article on the Bren Ten linked above says magazines were over $100 back in the day.  I doubt prices and availability have gotten much better.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:27 PM (5yLmw)

18 Stevens telling us what he would like the 2nd amendment to say is a clear admission that the 2nd amendment does not say that now, contrary to what many liberals have long claimed.

Posted by: hairless mule at February 23, 2014 12:27 PM (EcY0f)

19 15 Detective that claimed “we don’t have time for this” before killing 90-pound teen is indicted for voluntary manslaughter
***
Wouldn't that be textbook murder?

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Hey, a cop got indicted for killing someone he didn't have to. Let's not get greedy.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 12:28 PM (celt+)

20 Looks a bit like a Browning Hi Power, but what's with the bird on there?

Posted by: CMU VET at February 23, 2014 12:28 PM (ejB0r)

21 I need a meeting. Hi my name is traye and I haven't bought a gun in six months, I have gotten some ammo for the guns I do have and I have shot quite a bit. I really need need NEED a new gun or five. I can stop buying them anytime I want, I swear.

Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 12:28 PM (cs+se)

22 "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." == "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." AND "There should be no "poorly-regulated Militias."" Otherwise, people would form "poorly-regulated Militias" and try to overthrow the Constitution. Which would be stupid, because the correct way to overthrow the Constitution is to become a lawyer/politician. Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 23, 2014 12:29 PM (spmY9)

23 >>> Wouldn't that be textbook murder?

Only for those individuals not lucky enough to be wearing a badge at the time.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:29 PM (5yLmw)

24 "So, the smart gun bill won't pass (I hope), but how long till we see an executive order to that effect?"

After the midterms this fall is the "window of vulnerability".

Consider that Markey has an insanely safe seat. He'll be in it for life. He can propose this sorts of crazy things as red meat for his liberal constituency in MA (well, fresh tofu rather than red meat, but you get the idea).

Meanwhile, you have Hagan, Pryor, Landrieu, et al. absolutely shitting bricks in states that aren't monolithically liberal, and they are just terrified of this stuff and wish that every other Democrat would instantly STFU about it.

They've told Obama in particular to please stay away from their races and to please not take any more potentially controversial actions between now and Election Day. This has not sat too well with The Won -- he's a narcissist who can't stand to be anything other than adored -- but so far he is acquiescing, because he needs those seats to stay Democratic.

However, once the election this fall is over, that's the last time Obama will have to worry about moderating his stance. He of course will not be standing for re-election and none of his allies will be vulnerable to damage he causes before he himself leaves.

That, make no mistake, is when he will go "full Bulworth", as he puts it.

Remember the comment Obama made about how would have what he termed _more flexibility_ after 2012? And how he immediately began to demonstrate the same in 2013? He is a pol who understands the game clock. And he will have even more _flexibility_ once 2014 is finished.

Which underscores the absolutely central importance of taking away Democratic control of the Senate this fall. A GOP majority will certainly have to be dissuaded away from a bunch of stupid crap (e.g. amnesty), but there seems to be little appetite for intrusive new gun control even among the worst of the RINOs right now.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 23, 2014 12:30 PM (gqT4g)

25 Hairless:  Excellent point.  Go to the head of the class.

Posted by: CMU VET at February 23, 2014 12:30 PM (ejB0r)

26 Oh and while I know the answer, why isn't this case getting the Trayvon Martin treatment? Unlike Trayvon, the teen in this case was already mostly subdued, was much less of a physical threat, and was facing multiple police officers...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2014 12:31 PM (M3hAT)

27 Watching biathlon has got me wanting to buy a pair of cross-country skis and some land here in Maine, and putting the Mosin-Nagants to proper use.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 12:31 PM (celt+)

28 20 Looks a bit like a Browning Hi Power, but what's with the bird on there?

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The logo of Jeff Cooper's Gunsite Academy.

I've always thought it a bit too Waffenampt-tish.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 12:33 PM (celt+)

29 Which underscores the absolutely central importance of taking away Democratic control of the Senate this fall *** Suppose McConnell and friends get to 51 votes. Do they actually do anything when Obama starts signing even more unconstitutional executive orders?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2014 12:33 PM (M3hAT)

30 putting the Mosin-Nagants to proper use. If you shoot it behind you, it can be a form of propulsion.

Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 12:34 PM (cs+se)

31
So anyone got any favorite places they use for ammo? Gunbroker dot com and luckygunner dot com are typically where I head for online purchases.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 04:17 PM (GEICT)







SG Ammo and Ammunition to Go are my usual sources. Copes Distributing is usually more $ but they have $9.95 shipping, which can make up for the higher price.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2014 12:35 PM (aYjRw)

32 What are the legal considerations with ordering ammo online?  I live in Illinois, will be in DC (prolly MD) this summer.  I don't think I want to get stuff mailed to me there.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:38 PM (5yLmw)

33 Great article --- Whole Foods: AmericaÂ’s Temple of Pseudoscience - The Daily Beast http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/23/whole-foods-america-s-temple-of-pseudoscience.html

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 23, 2014 12:38 PM (ZPrif)

34 Even better candidate for the Marksmanship Award- http://tinyurl.com/k96n8zo DETROIT, Mich. (WJBK) - A Detroit woman surprises an armed robbery suspect in her home. He pointed a gun at her head, but the woman was armed. Bullets started flying and the suspected ended up dead. Shot him 7 times.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 12:38 PM (MtC8f)

35 The Bren Ten was one of those brilliant ideas un-brilliantly executed. The faltering (and threatened-with-regulation) "low-production" not-exactly-3D-printed one-off machined guns process might bring them back - hopefully with one or two improvements. As for now, like Matebas, they're sexy collector's items and not much more. It is basically a CZ, so to get close you could get a 10mm EAA Witness... again, if you can find one (grumble). It's much easier to just order one new in most places - most stores won't stock them. One thing about the 10mm is a wider-than-average velocity spread between loads (because of the FBI downloading), so you may need to match your recoil spring with your loads. Some people have *real* problems with this because the hot loads have twice the energy of the mild loads.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at February 23, 2014 12:39 PM (qyfb5)

36
putting the Mosin-Nagants to proper use.

If you shoot it behind you, it can be a form of propulsion.

Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 04:34 PM (cs+se)






*snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2014 12:39 PM (aYjRw)

37 I was surprised that the local Academy actually had a somewhat decent selection of ammunition when I went by earlier this week. Up until then they used to have no handgun ammo and rarely had any 7.62 or 5.56.

Posted by: Adam at February 23, 2014 12:39 PM (Aif/5)

38 >>> Shot him 7 times.

Did she say, "we don't have time for this"?

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:40 PM (5yLmw)

39 "Emotional claims that the right to possess deadly weapons is so important that it is protected by the federal Constitution distort intelligent debate about the wisdom of particular aspects of proposed legislation designed to minimize the slaughter caused by the prevalence of guns in private hands." Only a leftist can pack so much stupidity into one sentence.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 23, 2014 12:40 PM (YbyjT)

40 SG Ammo and Ammunition to Go are my usual sources. Copes Distributing is usually more $ but they have $9.95 shipping, which can make up for the higher price. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2014 04:35 PM (aYjRw) Fucking hell, everyone's out of .22lr That or they want an arm and a leg for it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 12:40 PM (GEICT)

41 What are the legal considerations with ordering ammo online? I live in Illinois, will be in DC (prolly MD) this summer. I don't think I want to get stuff mailed to me there.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:38 PM (5yLmw)



Bomber, where in Illinois?  I'm in the suburbs, order ammo online no problem.  You will have to send in a copy of your FOID card.   Some places won't ship to IL.

Posted by: Steck at February 23, 2014 12:41 PM (5i94q)

42 32 What are the legal considerations with ordering ammo online? I live in Illinois, will be in DC (prolly MD) this summer. I don't think I want to get stuff mailed to me there. Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:38 PM (5yLmw) Most places won't ship ammo into DC, I believe.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 12:41 PM (GEICT)

43 Always had good luck with Georgia Arms having 5.56 and .223.  Wisconsin Cartridge is another place.  Haven't been to either website since the canoe accident.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 23, 2014 12:42 PM (GgPam)

44 What are the legal considerations with ordering ammo online? I live in Illinois, will be in DC (prolly MD) this summer. I don't think I want to get stuff mailed to me there. Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:38 PM (5yLmw) I don't know about MD, but DC is certainly out.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 12:42 PM (MpP9p)

45 If the second amendment is a collective right and not an individual one, then i expect my government-provided, fully-automatic, absolutely-gratis assault weapon will be delivered promptly.

Posted by: Don't make me go Roundhead. at February 23, 2014 12:43 PM (r/XjE)

46 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 04:40 PM (GEICT) CTD had some yesterday for .06 per round. Missed it though.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 12:43 PM (MtC8f)

47 >> Shot him 7 times. Did she say, "we don't have time for this"? Posted by: Bomber When asked why she shot him seven times, her reply "I didn't have eight bullets."

Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 12:43 PM (cs+se)

48 Whooo Hooooo, the gun thread! That's the number 2 event of my Sunday ranking right below Church because the wife says I need me some Church! @ 32 Bomber, One of My go to guys (AIM surplus) says they need a copy of your FOID card and state photo ID. And they don;t ship to the city of Chicago. See http://www.aimsurplus.com/info/buyammo.aspx Look at Illinois. I hope this helps.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 12:44 PM (cCxiu)

49 Installed a Galloway Short Stroke trigger bar on my pocket pistol yesterday. Shortens the trigger take up by 35%. Didn't use the spring kit, so the trigger is still heavy, but I like that for pocket carry (in a holster)

Success!

I can hit the target now.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 23, 2014 12:44 PM (4Mv1T)

50 >>> You will have to send in a copy of your FOID card.

That's the problem.  FL resident, so I'm not allowed to get a FOID.  Good news is, I can possess, at the house at least, without it.  New CC law might even let me keep it in the car, but haven't been home enough to worry about it.

>>> Most places won't ship ammo into DC, I believe.

Not going to live in DC, but MD is just about as bad, from what I can tell.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:44 PM (5yLmw)

51 Retired Supreme Court Justice = Just Another Liberal Dipshit

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2014 12:45 PM (oe27X)

52 Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:38 PM (5yLmw No way no how DC. MD is good to go.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 12:45 PM (MtC8f)

53 >>> When asked why she shot him seven times, her reply "I didn't have eight bullets."

So, 1911?

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:45 PM (5yLmw)

54 One thing about the 10mm is a wider-than-average velocity spread between loads (because of the FBI downloading), so you may need to match your recoil spring with your loads. Some people have *real* problems with this because the hot loads have twice the energy of the mild loads.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith

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If you're gonna buy a 10mm, shoot 10mm. Seems to me if you wanna shoot downloaded 10mm, buy a .40SW. That's why it was made.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 12:46 PM (celt+)

55 Posted by: torque wrench at February 23, 2014 04:30 PM (gqT4g) Torquewrench, I live in MA & hate all of the senators in reps in this state. There are conservatives here but our votes donÂ’t count. ItÂ’s the same in MD & CA & IÂ’m sure other states. I just wanted to check why my email has an error message. It seems like ComcastÂ’s web mails server is down.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 12:46 PM (z4WKX)

56 OK, I guess I could have worded that better.  Stationed in DC, at the Navy Yard.  No way in hell I'd actually live there. 

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:46 PM (5yLmw)

57 Not going to live in DC, but MD is just about as bad, from what I can tell. Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:44 PM (5yLmw) I don't have email addresses for all of the MD posters, but if you need advice, post on the Yahoo group.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 12:47 PM (MpP9p)

58 My wife and a friend are driving from NC to Chicago next week. She has (with much trepidation) decided to leave gun at home. God I hate slave states.

Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 12:48 PM (cs+se)

59 Not going to live in DC, but MD is just about as bad, from what I can tell. -------- Try not to get pulled over in MD if you have a CC permit anywhere.....

Posted by: Adam at February 23, 2014 12:49 PM (Aif/5)

60 OK, I guess I could have worded that better. Stationed in DC, at the Navy Yard. No way in hell I'd actually live there. Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:46 PM (5yLmw) Mangialardo & Sons at 1317 Pennsylvania SE for sandwiches.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 12:49 PM (MpP9p)

61 !

Posted by: goody Guns! at February 23, 2014 12:50 PM (q0r5L)

62
What are the legal considerations with ordering ammo online? I live in Illinois, will be in DC (prolly MD) this summer. I don't think I want to get stuff mailed to me there.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:38 PM (5yLmw)









I believe that Illinois requires that you have a copy of your FOID card on file with the vendor. Several other states like Connecticut and Massachusetts ban online ammo purchases, as well as certain cities (DC is definitely one of them). Check the shipping policies of your preferred vendor on their website. A copy of your regular photo ID is always required.

Some vendors will not ship to certain areas even though it's clearly legal to do so. An ongoing issue in some counties of CA is that many years back, a few vendors got the idea that shipping ammo there was illegal, and the vendors have been reluctant to revisit the issue, even though their competitors ship to those areas. No basis in law for that, but the vendors are sometimes playing it safe.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2014 12:50 PM (aYjRw)

63 >>> Try not to get pulled over in MD if you have a CC permit anywhere.....

I know that.  Might buy one of those mini dash cameras just in case.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 12:51 PM (5yLmw)

64 So if me and my neighbors form our own militia, justice smarty pants will ok our purchase of a .50 cal Machine gun?

Posted by: goody Guns! at February 23, 2014 12:52 PM (q0r5L)

65 Etched firearms. What would you have done if anything? http://tinyurl.com/mccgre5

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 12:53 PM (MtC8f)

66 I saw the Stevens statement and thought..'So do ya'all really want all of us gun owners forming militias?"

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 12:53 PM (cCxiu)

67 specifically my neighbors would form this... (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Posted by: goody Guns! at February 23, 2014 12:54 PM (q0r5L)

68 Semi-O/T

Ukraine Port City Sevastapol Declares Allegiance to Russia

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 23, 2014 12:55 PM (xrX4n)

69
Retired Supreme Court Justice = Just Another Liberal Dipshit

Posted by: garrett at February 23, 2014 04:45 PM (oe27X)









It's also some variety of weasel.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 23, 2014 12:55 PM (aYjRw)

70 "An upstate New York lawmaker told Guns & Patriots RemingtonÂ’s decision to develop a new plant outside the Mohawk Valley shows a state that is closed for business." http://goo.gl/FZvYRg

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 23, 2014 12:56 PM (JQuNB)

71 57 Not going to live in DC, but MD is just about as bad, from what I can tell. Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:44 PM (5yLmw) I don't have email addresses for all of the MD posters, but if you need advice, post on the Yahoo group. Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 04:47 PM (MpP9p) Or drop me an email and I can connect you with Bannion and/or DC in Towson.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 12:58 PM (GEICT)

72 I like revisiting lifetime appointments for judges. The argument is that it is like tenure, that judges shouldn't be subject to politics in considering their rulings. Of course, they're all considering politics, if not the simple notion of the cocktail party or being respected by law professors. Shallow vanity has been a hallmark of the judiciary. And, unlike some college professors, they aren't hampered by that pesky scientific method. Besides all that, it shows that Stevens has no idea what the Second Amendment is for. It's explicitly not to arm a militia (in which Stevens clearly intends to mean the National Guard) but to arm the people, who constitute the militia in the sense that the founders meant it. Personally, I think gun control advocates are racist. Their real motivation is to keep guns out of the hands of minorities because they're afraid of them.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 23, 2014 12:59 PM (T0NGe)

73 65 Etched firearms.


What would you have done if anything?

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If the selector markings weren't already done on my AR, I'd get "PEW!" in the Fire position and "PEW! PEW! PEW!" in the (fake) Full Auto position.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 01:00 PM (celt+)

74 >>>I saw the Stevens statement and thought..'So do ya'all really want all of us gun owners forming militias?"<<<

Isn't everybody who has ever filled out an ATF Form 4473 considered to be a member of  a ] well regulated militia?

Why won't the U.S. Department of Justice consider that box to be checked?

Done. And done.

Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2014 01:02 PM (PnMCP)

75 Taro http://tinyurl.com/k6ej2pm

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 01:05 PM (MtC8f)

76 Trying to list some ammo sites, but Pixie is screwing with it. So, you all will see a series of short posts, each with a link to a site, instead of a larger, better understood post.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:07 PM (NHZpR)

77 My go-to places for online ammo
AmmoSeek
http://tinyurl.com/qah365h
GunBot
http://tinyurl.com/p38a4u4

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:07 PM (NHZpR)

78 SlickGuns
http://tinyurl.com/79vy2fh
Freedom Ammo
http://tinyurl.com/mzoglbs
WikiArms (The best IMHO)
http://tinyurl.com/klypbu8
Target Sports
http://tinyurl.com/a6m36dv

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:08 PM (NHZpR)

79 Most of them allow you to set alerts for what ammo and at what price per round you would like to find.

I have personally ordered over 4,000 rds of various stuff, but mostly 22LR in the last two weeks.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:09 PM (NHZpR)

80 Gunbot.net Ammoseek.com

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 01:11 PM (MtC8f)

81 Most e-mail alerts start to come out on Mondays, and peak on Wednesday.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:11 PM (NHZpR)

82 Heh. Sorry VIA. Didn't see your #77.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 01:12 PM (MtC8f)

83

Awesome new ammo out you gotta check out:  http://tinyurl.com/ks2posd

The correct answer for all your ammo needs is Freedom Munitions

Hey Taro

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:12 PM (b7yum)

84 For the 22LR,you have about 15 minutes between the notice, and the site running out. But, it can be done.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:13 PM (NHZpR)

85 >>>What are the legal considerations with ordering ammo online? I live in Illinois, will be in DC (prolly MD) this summer. I don't think I want to get stuff mailed to me there. Bomber if you're still here, ammo orders to MD are super easy, and surprisingly not subject to any asinine laws. UPS guy dropped off a crate of Mosin food and 500 9mm from AimSurplus on Thursday.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 01:13 PM (eQJwb)

86 Big probs w/ the M4 and M4A1; union at Colt won't let them use CNC machines so now Colt sucks:  http://tinyurl.com/lxncamk

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:14 PM (b7yum)

87 Phew,
That's a lot of hacking up an original post so as Pixie doesn't kill it as spam

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:15 PM (NHZpR)

88 UPS guy dropped off a crate of Mosin food and 500 9mm from AimSurplus on Thursday. Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 05:13 PM (eQJwb) You must have a garage full of nothing but ammo at this point.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 01:16 PM (GEICT)

89 Bare shelves at WalMarts everywhere in N IL. Except for some brand of 9mm, selling 20 per little box for something like $25.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 23, 2014 01:16 PM (tmFlQ)

90 Thanks VIA. Those are all now bookmarked along with the sites everyone else gave.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 01:16 PM (GEICT)

91 83  .380, Federal Hydroshock = 860 fps. Liberty? 1379 fps.

9x19mm 115 grain ball = 1110 fps. Liberty? An honest 2028 fps average.

.45acp 230 grain (my own) = 750 fps. Liberty..... 1847 fps average over two 20 round strings. That gives a muzzle energy almost double a standard round.

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:16 PM (b7yum)

92 Conserve ammo. Get hacky and stabby with 'em. http://tinyurl.com/odtkgoe

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 01:17 PM (MtC8f)

93 DC, thanks for the info.  Only going to be in MD for the summer, so may not order much there.  Good to know the option is available though.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 01:18 PM (5yLmw)

94 91  F=MV2.  Read it on a cereal box

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:19 PM (b7yum)

95 At this point, I have walked away from the Walmart ammo hunt.
I literally get more ammo alerts per week then what I can use.
And if I remember right, my alerts are
22LR=.06 per rd
9mm= .26 per rd
.223=.32 per rd.

Excluding steel  case ammo on the alerts.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:19 PM (NHZpR)

96 Ahhh.... so this Lib wants to put the 2nd Amendment into a Militia mode... Then... Militia are military formations. Therefore Militia members should keep military viable weapons... And the Base military Weapons of the world today? The Select Fire Assault Rifle... Semi Auto Handguns... Squad Support Weapons (Light Machine Guns)... Light AntiTank Weapons (Laws and such). I don't think the lib understands where his 'logic' takes this...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2014 01:19 PM (84gbM)

97 >>> And the Base military Weapons of the world today?

I want a Mk19.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 01:22 PM (5yLmw)

98 96 Hey Romeo where do you stand on the M4 issue?  Seems to me a light barrel was kinda retarded

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:22 PM (b7yum)

99 98  Bomber whattaya think about the M4?

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:22 PM (b7yum)

100 Big probs w/ the M4 and M4A1; union at Colt won't let them use CNC machines so now Colt sucks: http://tinyurl.com/lxncamk Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 05:14 PM (b7yum) I don't see the union thing mentioned. where did you see that?

Posted by: goody Guns! at February 23, 2014 01:23 PM (q0r5L)

101 100 In the comments

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:24 PM (b7yum)

102 Wish list still has an AR that can blow up a train on it. Wish the good Reverend would drop us a clie.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 01:24 PM (MtC8f)

103 >>>You must have a garage full of nothing but ammo at this point. Yeah, the UPS guy hates me. Plus, I haven't been burning too much of it up, mainly due to time. I use gun-deals.com for most of my comparison shopping, because it allows you to factor in shipping costs and then sort by price per round. Damn you VIA for telling me about the wikiarms alerts. I can pretty much sign my next paycheck directly over to Aim or Natchez.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 01:24 PM (eQJwb)

104

>>>One thing about the 10mm is a wider-than-average velocity spread between loads (because of the FBI downloading),

 

That is seriously irritating. As hard as it is to even find 10mm, you just have to take what you can get. But you can definitely tell the difference between the loads.

 

Colt Delta Elite, used to have one before the boating accident...

Posted by: PMRich at February 23, 2014 01:25 PM (KDUNf)

105 I think my project for late this year or early next is to get my 03 C&R license so I can have a crate of Mosins delivered right to my door.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 01:25 PM (eQJwb)

106 They were forced into bankruptcy back in 1999. They are a UAW union shop, and the union threatened to call a strike if they installed any CNC machines. They have been priced out of the market on most of their models because of the increased cost of using actual machinists while the competition was using CNC and investment casting.

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:26 PM (b7yum)

107 "Damn you VIA for telling me about the wikiarms alerts. I can pretty much sign my next paycheck directly over to Aim or Natchez."

Don't thank me, I'm a giver like that.


Mrs VIA just said, "Now everyone will know how to do that"
I said "Morons look out for Morons"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:27 PM (NHZpR)

108 105 I think my project for late this year or early next is to get my 03 C&R license so I can have a crate of Mosins delivered right to my door. Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 05:25 PM (eQJwb) You must be keeping Cougar well supplied in Shiny Things and Shoes to keep her happy with the purchases.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 01:28 PM (GEICT)

109 75- sweet!

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 01:28 PM (celt+)

110 Another Union sucess story!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 23, 2014 01:28 PM (BAS5M)

111 PIXY WON'T LET ME COMMENT

Posted by: Lady Billingsgate at February 23, 2014 01:29 PM (hWl8E)

112 FN Herstal got the M4 contract now. We'll see how they do, but my SCAR is really well out together. I could see it sink all the way to the bottom of the lake!

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 01:29 PM (doBIb)

113 oh

Posted by: Lady Billingsgate at February 23, 2014 01:29 PM (hWl8E)

114 My 1911 had 8 rds, and I don't know why anyone would buy one with 7 rds

Posted by: Lady Billingsgate at February 23, 2014 01:29 PM (hWl8E)

115 111 PIXY WON'T LET ME COMMENT Posted by: Lady Billingsgate at February 23, 2014 05:29 PM (hWl8E) I guess you are fucked. Try Hot Air.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 23, 2014 01:30 PM (0FSuD)

116 How much do you think that women in arms played into the decision to use a light barrel on the M4???

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:30 PM (b7yum)

117 My 1911 had 8 rds, and I don't know why anyone would buy one with 7 rds The Commander size ones are usually 7rd stock mags. Of course, you can always buy an 8 or 10 rounder.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 01:31 PM (doBIb)

118 If there are any other GA morons around, theoutdoorstrader.com is a great place to buy and sell guns and ammo. 

They have pages for other states but the last time I looked at them they weren't very active.  Lots of good stuff for GA residents though.

Posted by: Adam at February 23, 2014 01:31 PM (Aif/5)

119 Those links to 22lr are really outrageous. I just bought 100 rounds at eight cents, not 16.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 23, 2014 01:31 PM (0FSuD)

120 MAx, what's the question?  If you're asking about that article, sounds like overhyped reportage to me.  SF guy saying, "if I could grab something else, I would"?  Dude, you're SF, you CAN grab something else.

Personally, I like the M4.  But I like pistols better.  M4 is a little hard to conceal.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 01:31 PM (5yLmw)

121 I read the CSAR had many failures in the Army tests.  Colt had many more

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:32 PM (b7yum)

122 Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 05:22 PM (b7yum) Can't speak from personal experience... I was... and still am... an M-14 kinda guy... My main thing was boarding ships for the Navy.... and we kept our old weps as long as we could... because an M-14 round would go through an aluminum bulkhead, when a lighter round would start to play ricochet rabbit... So...me? M-14, 12 Gauge, and .45s... and that early training just kinda carried over...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2014 01:33 PM (84gbM)

123 121 CSAR = SCAR.  Sorry

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:33 PM (b7yum)

124 Why aren't my comments posting?

Posted by: oblig. at February 23, 2014 01:33 PM (oe27X)

125 Bomber, When are you going back? Thank you for your service!

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 01:33 PM (z4WKX)

126 Every gun had failures, but that was after thousands of rounds.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 01:33 PM (doBIb)

127 120  Yeah I was wondering how much of this story was just the perennial M-16= POS thing

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:34 PM (b7yum)

128 Pixxy won't let me finish.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 23, 2014 01:35 PM (oe27X)

129 I have a 10mm S&W. Never shot it, bought from friend in need of cash. Same as the 9mm but 10. Waste of time to me.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 23, 2014 01:35 PM (0FSuD)

130 Maybe all these people hid their own comments from themselves

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:35 PM (b7yum)

131 The thing about the SCAR is that it's a piston gun, not DI. It will fire cleaner and for longer periods than a DI gun.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 01:35 PM (doBIb)

132 Carol, the plan is October.  I keep hoping Karzai pisses us off and we call it off, but I don't think that's going to happen now.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 01:35 PM (5yLmw)

133 I also heard that Colt is buying LWRC. Maybe I should make a move on one of theirs.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 01:36 PM (doBIb)

134 >>>You must be keeping Cougar well supplied in Shiny Things and Shoes to keep her happy with the purchases. Shoes? Nah, she has what she likes and if she needs something new, she just gets it herself. Jewelry? Yeah, that's my department. The manager at Radcliffe freaking loves me. But a crate of twenty Mosins only costs about as much as a mid-grade AR. So it's not that much money, and the C&R is $35 for three years, so I can avoid all those onerous transfer fees.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 01:37 PM (eQJwb)

135 And yes your GM truck has a chinese engine.  And it sucks.  UAW FTW

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:37 PM (b7yum)

136 DC = one man militia.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 01:38 PM (doBIb)

137 Oh.... and O/T... Remembered something this morning.... re Ukraine and O'bombya... There are only two overland routes to supply our troops in Afghanistan.... Pakistan, which is VERY problematic and... drumroll please.... Russia... Do you think O'bomya can piss in Putin's cornflakes, as we try to extricate our troops AND EQUIPMENT from Afghanistan? Seems like Putin is playing chess... and is a Rook up.... and Obama? Chinese checkers...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2014 01:39 PM (84gbM)

138 But a crate of twenty Mosins only costs about as much as a mid-grade AR. So it's not that much money, and the C&R is $35 for three years, so I can avoid all those onerous transfer fees. Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 05:37 PM (eQJwb) If you go ahead with that, let's talk. I certainly wouldn't mind having one sitting with my gear.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 01:39 PM (GEICT)

139

134  A crate of mosins would be very useful to keep the door open to a roomful of AR's

Just mosin hatin' not trying to erupt a flame war

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:39 PM (b7yum)

140 >>>Just mosin hatin' not trying to erupt a flame war Meh. Shoot what you like. If you don't like it, you probably won't shoot it well. If you can put rounds on target with .22 LR and nothing else, carry .22 LR.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 01:41 PM (eQJwb)

141 Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 05:41 PM (eQJwb) Yup.... it aint rounds downrange... Its rounds on target...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2014 01:43 PM (84gbM)

142 More:  At one point in time,Colt produced a MUCH wider array of firearms but because of union requirements that they NOT upgrade to newer machinery (newer machines, fewer machinists) they couldn't keep their prices in line with the price curve so they had to drop many of their lines. Look at a Colt Python. They haven't been made in over 14 years, but they command a phenomenal price on the open market because of their accuracy. Colt stopped making them because the cost of production using manual machining caused the price to rise out of control. Had they been able to install CNC machining and MIM casting for the parts, they would've been able to remain cost competitive.

Colt came out with a number of firearms to try and regain market share in the 90s, but their prices were always higher than S&W and MUCH higher than Ruger. Since they were still using older manufacturing techniques and equipment, their basic model quality didn't keep up either. They still have the most beautiful engraving and blueing of any manufacturer out there, but that adds to the cost of an already costly weapon. I've owned a number of Colts including 3 Pythons, and at least 3 1911s. The quality of construction has fallen while the prices have gone up. This at the same time that the competition has improved quality and kept down prices.

A CNC machined Iver Johnson 1911 wholesales for around half the price of a comparable Colt model, and has better quality. That's a HUGE problem for Colt. An STI Spartan sells for about $600 while a comparable Colt 1911 sells for over $900. The finish on the Spartan won't be as good as the one of the Colt, but the fit of the parts is better. I've fired a lot of firearms, but the quality of the finish has never effected the impact of the bullet. The fit of the parts are another story. The difference is that other companies are spending their money paying people to fit the parts together, versus simply making the parts initially.

BTW the Colt Precision ARs aren't even made by Colt. They're made by a contractor here in Texas.

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:44 PM (b7yum)

143 Everything the UAW touches turns to gold it seems

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:47 PM (b7yum)

144 For you guys looking at the links I sent.
Remember what it took me about two weeks to figure out.

Sort by price per round,
And remember that the lower prices will NOT start popping till Monday through Wednesday.
I do not get a single alert from Thursday afternoons through Sundays.

At first I thought it was hit or miss.
But there really is a pattern to the pricing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:48 PM (NHZpR)

145

In many ways the story of the UAW is the story of Obama.

Oh wait that isn't even a joke

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:48 PM (b7yum)

146 It so happens that Sonny Crockett's backup piece was the AMT Backup in .45 ACP. I happen to own an AMT Backup .45 made in that era. Lots of owners complain because quality control was apparently uneven with AMT: some of the Backups were awesome shooters while others were FTF-prone paperweights. I guess I lucked out because mine is a sweetheart as a defensive piece, although not exactly a fun range pistol given its lack of sights and heavy DA trigger. Good thing I don't mind heavy DA triggers, I guess. I've been focusing on point-shooting, so lack of sights doesn't bother me, either. I'd love to own a Bren 10. Maybe because I was a young man in the 80's and it is part of that period. Besides, 10mm on the right platform is a marvelous weapon.

Posted by: troyriser at February 23, 2014 01:48 PM (ptcFO)

147 Colt has opened a factory here in SC and I would be surprised if it was union.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 23, 2014 01:49 PM (T2V/1)

148 I am looking for an inexpensive long arm. Probably going to end up with a Nagant. Last few I tried, the bolt got harder and harder to cycle. Any suggestions?

Posted by: redclay at February 23, 2014 01:49 PM (9BagI)

149 More from the comments: 

Every mechanical device fails in extreme dust/sand conditions, like what we would see in a dust storm in the Middle East. Even our M500 breacher shotguns and M24's Sniper Systems could not physically chamber a cartridge.

What are these "better, newer weapon systems out there"?
SCAR-nope, 42 units broken within 2 weeks of testing by 3rd Ranger Battalion
416? Nope, too heavy, no noticeable improvement in reliability over SOPMOD Block II M4A1
Remington ACR? Colossal abortion
"Piston operated" AR15's? Nope...less reliable, heavier

So what is it? Where is this unicorn of a weapon that is so superior to the M4?

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:50 PM (b7yum)

150 I got treated to a trap shoot this morning. I got to shoot some shotties that were worth about as much as a Ferrari. Great fun.

Posted by: navybrat at February 23, 2014 01:51 PM (AW7Gr)

151

>>> the bolt got harder and harder to cycle.

 

Was this

 

like the bolt was 'sticking' after you fired the gun?

 

Rough to cycle the bolt throughout the entire range?

Posted by: PMRich at February 23, 2014 01:52 PM (KDUNf)

152 "So what is it? Where is this unicorn of a weapon that is so superior to the M4?"

Longbow, or Crossbow

Discuss

*ducks and runs*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 01:52 PM (NHZpR)

153

148  Remember that most cheap rifles will be expensive on ammo.

AR is the one to get, but you knew I'd say that.  Lotsa people selling cheap after they panic bought last year

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:53 PM (b7yum)

154 I am looking for an inexpensive long arm. Probably going to end up with a Nagant. Last few I tried, the bolt got harder and harder to cycle. Any suggestions? Posted by: redclay at February 23, 2014 05:49 PM (9BagI) Disassemble the bolt, which seems trickier than it actually is. Use brake cleaner spray and spray the daylights out of it. Soak it in a bath of Hoppes solvent for awhile. Take it out, wipe it down, and lightly lubricate. Reassemble. Works for me. Haven't had any problems with my Mosins. However, it could be that those you fired still had cosmoline in the bolt, in which case you should disassemble and soak the bolt in kerosene or paint thinner or other really powerful solvent. Cleaning out cosmoline takes work.

Posted by: troyriser at February 23, 2014 01:56 PM (ptcFO)

155 I am looking for an inexpensive long arm. Probably going to end up with a Nagant. Last few I tried, the bolt got harder and harder to cycle. Any suggestions?>>

I acquired a MAS49/56 cheap becase it would not cycle. Turned out the only problem was crappy waxed Argentinian ammo. I cleaned the gun and took steel wool and WD 40 to clean the ammo. I've have not had any problems since.

Posted by: The Hickster at February 23, 2014 01:57 PM (TI3xG)

156 I used to have a Doublestar AR-15, before the boating accident.  Loved it, put several hundred rounds through it, all different types of ammo, rapid fire etc, never had one single problem with it.

Posted by: Adam at February 23, 2014 01:59 PM (Aif/5)

157 55 Carol OT: just wanted to thank you re: info on Boston (Northeastern Univ). Had to skip out on the ONT shortly after posting. Thank you!

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at February 23, 2014 01:59 PM (noB3y)

158 155 Did you know you can tumble live rounds??

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 01:59 PM (b7yum)

159 To clarify my 155 it would quit cycling after about 10 rounds. Clean the gun it would cycle another 10 rounds. Clean the ammo and the gun has never had a cycling problem since.

Posted by: The Hickster at February 23, 2014 02:00 PM (TI3xG)

160 Remember that most cheap rifles will be expensive on ammo. AR is the one to get, but you knew I'd say that. Lotsa people selling cheap after they panic bought last year Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 05:53 PM (b7yum) I bought a very nice and very inexpensive Yugoslavian SKS a few years ago. I shoot it a great deal but prices for 7.62 x 39 have (thankfully) stayed relatively stable.

Posted by: troyriser at February 23, 2014 02:01 PM (ptcFO)

161 155 Did you know you can tumble live rounds??>>

I've wondered if you could since I have some old oxidized stuff around so good to know.

Posted by: The Hickster at February 23, 2014 02:02 PM (TI3xG)

162 Lacquered cases can gum up a Mosin chamber pretty quick.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 02:02 PM (celt+)

163 Bob Owens' blog Bearing Arms sure has alot of interesting stuff

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 02:03 PM (b7yum)

164 Lacquered cases can gum up a Mosin chamber pretty quick. Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 06:02 PM (celt+) After just 10 rounds? I don't use the lacquered stuff, myself. I buy the surplus 7.62 x 54R from Bulgaria or wherever. Never had a problem, ever.

Posted by: troyriser at February 23, 2014 02:04 PM (ptcFO)

165 161  yeah who knew there was a non-porn section of the internet???

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 02:05 PM (b7yum)

166 Looks like Bush's lies hurt the US at the Olympics. President Obama tried so hard to help our athletes, but Bush screwed that up too bad for any one man to fix.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at February 23, 2014 02:05 PM (iB0Q2)

167 You teabaggers all deserve to be shoot for owning evil guns.  I eagirly await and executive order from our glorious leade r Barak Obama.

Posted by: Marry Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 23, 2014 02:08 PM (Aif/5)

168 >>>Remember that most cheap rifles will be expensive on ammo. I like the AR, and used to have a few before the tragic fishing expedition, but Mosin food runs less than .25 per round, even with shipping. The bolt on the Mosin can be a little rough. Just remember it was built for use in battle conditions by illiterate third world peasants. Think of it more like a farm tool than a modern firearm. You're not gonna break it, so go ahead and operate the bolt smartly. Buy one and a spam can. Even if you hate it, you're only out about $220 or so. And the Mosin can be resold for about what you paid for it.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 02:08 PM (eQJwb)

169 yeah who knew there was a non-porn section of the internet???>>

Well since the question would be related to guns it's still porn.

Posted by: The Hickster at February 23, 2014 02:09 PM (TI3xG)

170

166 and 167  You know you've brought me around to your point of view with your exquisitely-crafted arguments.  Forget the ten thousand things I said to the contrary.

Bill O'Reilly agrees that Obama is a fine patriot.  Three people can't be wrong

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 02:15 PM (b7yum)

171 Thanks all, peasant weapon it is, w sks to follow.

Posted by: redclay at February 23, 2014 02:20 PM (9BagI)

172 Full auto at 18,000 fps. http://tinyurl.com/lvtctnr

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 02:20 PM (MtC8f)

173 Buy one and a spam can. Even if you hate it, you're only out about $220 or so. And the Mosin can be resold for about what you paid for it. Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 06:08 PM (eQJwb) My favorite long gun at home is my Mosin M44 carbine. It has the sweetest bolt action for such an inexpensive, decades-old surplus rifle. I don't think I would ever sell it.

Posted by: troyriser at February 23, 2014 02:21 PM (ptcFO)

174 156 I used to have a Doublestar AR-15, before the boating accident. Loved it, put several hundred rounds through it, all different types of ammo, rapid fire etc, never had one single problem with it.

Posted by: Adam at February 23, 2014 05:59 PM (Aif/5)


Had the same before the accident.  M-4 version is the awesome.

Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 23, 2014 02:23 PM (GgPam)

175 Posted by: Ammo Dump at February 23, 2014 06:23 PM (GgPam) Wow... Davy Jones sure has a HELL of a Gun Collection!

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2014 02:25 PM (84gbM)

176 >>>My favorite long gun at home is my Mosin M44 carbine. It has the sweetest bolt action for such an inexpensive, decades-old surplus rifle. I don't think I would ever sell it. Plus, you can use the muzzle blast to burn brush and make the fall landscaping much more fun.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 02:26 PM (eQJwb)

177 Ooh, SKS. I forgot about that, mainly because I don't have one. Not that I don't want one though. It's on the list, and will be one of my first purchases once I can move to a free state.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 02:27 PM (eQJwb)

178 A GOP majority will certainly have to be dissuaded away from a bunch of stupid crap (e.g. amnesty), but there seems to be little appetite for intrusive new gun control

I have had enough stupid crap for a lifetime.  The Ds seem to get the don't really do anything about gun control (which everyone would ignore anything regarding their existing guns anyways).  Team ReSurrenderista doesn't seem to get a clue despite repeated phone mobbings and deserves to be left holding the CoC dick which is the only thing they want.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 23, 2014 02:28 PM (DL2i+)

179 @ Troy riser.. Mosin M44 carbines and Chinese T-53's are the shizzle! I love going to the range and getting beside them fellers with Ar - 15's. After a round or two and fireballs, they just pack it up and go home!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 02:29 PM (cCxiu)

180 DC
Mosin food here.
Is this a good price?

http://tinyurl.com/krfzpy2

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 02:29 PM (NHZpR)

181 DC
I forgot,
PSA is doing free shipping right now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 02:30 PM (NHZpR)

182 I got to fire the Bren Ten while it was in development. I was dating the daughter of one of the owners. It was a nice firing pistol IRC. I forget the circumstances of the company's demise. I seem to recall some supply issues and a lot over promising and not delivering.

Posted by: Beer Ninja at February 23, 2014 02:32 PM (598AG)

183 Plus, you can use the muzzle blast to burn brush and make the fall landscaping much more fun. Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 06:26 PM (eQJwb) When I taught my now-adult soldier son to shoot rifles years ago, we started out with my Ruger 10-22 and moved up in caliber over time. When he was a teenager, he loved the big boom and fireball of the M44 Mosin. To be honest, I love it, too.

Posted by: troyriser at February 23, 2014 02:32 PM (ptcFO)

184 Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 05:35 PM (5yLmw) October is a long way off & TFG is as mature as a two year old. He may piss off Karzai.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 02:32 PM (z4WKX)

185 Mosin food here. Is this a good price? http://tinyurl.com/krfzpy2 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 06:29 PM (NHZpR) Yes, that's a good price. I usually buy from Classic Arms or Widener's. They usually have good surplus prices, too.

Posted by: troyriser at February 23, 2014 02:33 PM (ptcFO)

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 02:33 PM (b7yum)

187 Looks like that, with any luck, the Bren Ten will be back in production late this year.

http://www.vltor.com/2014/01/09/bren-ten-update-2014-2/

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at February 23, 2014 02:36 PM (M5T54)

188 Troy riser, Don't even get me started on the Hakim in 8mm or the VEPR semi auto in 7.62 x 54r . Those are range clearers too. Sends them cat and rat rifle guys right back hone!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 02:37 PM (cCxiu)

189 Wideners has 5000/rds of 22 for $465 delivered. It's 9.3 cents a round but includes shipping.

Posted by: lindafell at February 23, 2014 02:40 PM (PGO8C)

190 188  Haha AR-308 FTW

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 02:40 PM (b7yum)

191 "21 I need a meeting. Hi my name is traye and I haven't bought a gun in six months, I have gotten some ammo for the guns I do have and I have shot quite a bit.

I really need need NEED a new gun or five. I can stop buying them anytime I want, I swear.

Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 04:28 PM (cs+se)"



traye



Do you live in in Virginia or one of those other states with a "One gun a month" law?  If so, I would be concerned about admitting that you have gone six months without buying a gun. 



One gun a month.  It's not just a good idea.  It's the law.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 23, 2014 02:42 PM (BcCwi)

192 Wait! Am I too old to be in the Militia?

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 02:43 PM (JdEZJ)

193 >>>Mosin food here. Is this a good price? Yeah, that's pretty good. The crate I just got from Aim was about 5 bucks per can cheaper, but they charged for shipping, so...yeah, you'll probably save 15-20 dollars over what I just paid, I usually wait for the free shipping offers, but I may have been drinking when I placed the order. Also, don't forget to get two spam cans, which makes a crate. If you only order one can of 440, you usually don't get the opener with it.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 02:45 PM (eQJwb)

194 Classicfirearms and Wideners are great vendors. Add Aimsurplus, J&G sales, Samco Global Arms and SOG (SouthernOhioGuns) to the list. Sportmansguide, Cabelas, Keepshooting, Centerfire systems, etc. Check em out for deals. They don't always have em, you have to watch AND wait. Click notify me when available and wait for the email. Tell em Judge Roy Bean sent ya! (They sendme a free keychain for that). Hey did anyone snag any of them m 57 Yugo Tokarev pistols from Aim for 170 dollars while they were up?

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 02:45 PM (cCxiu)

195 Wow... Davy Jones sure has a HELL of a Gun Collection! Posted by: Romeo13 at February And collection of expensive sunglasses. I have figured that the average pair of $100+ sunglasses sink at a rate just slightly faster that you can swim down to retrieve them. Handguns and rifles sink faster. And don't ask me why I take all my guns offshore fishing. I just do. Keep losing them all though.

Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 02:46 PM (cs+se)

196 Here's the link to the 22 rounds http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7235

Posted by: lindafell at February 23, 2014 02:47 PM (PGO8C)

197 DC
I don't have a Mosin (yet).
That link was part of the continuing effort to see your paycheck flow through your hands like bullshit through Barky O'F*ckstik

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 02:49 PM (NHZpR)

198 >>>That link was part of the continuing effort to see your paycheck flow through your hands like bullshit through Barky O'F*ckstik Always looking out for me, you are. *mutters and goes to find credit card*

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 02:51 PM (eQJwb)

199
  Sweetest operating bolt action I ever fired was a Lee-Enfield in .303.

   I see why they have lived so long after that.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2014 02:51 PM (SAMxH)

200 I've already won this thread. Why can't I get a new one? Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 23, 2014 02:52 PM (spmY9)

201 >>>Wait! Am I too old to be in the Militia?<<<

Good news!  You can buy whatever hardware your budget can afford, because being "well regulated" only applies to whippersnappers who need to get off of your lawn.

Posted by: Fritz at February 23, 2014 02:53 PM (PnMCP)

202 Senator Edward Markey’s ‘‘Handgun Trigger Safety Act of 2014’’ begs for the ultimate line ... Don't bring a RFID controlled gun to a fight with an electrical engineer.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 23, 2014 02:54 PM (e8kgV)

203 I've already won this thread. Why can't I get a new one? Later, all. God bless. :-) Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 23, 2014 06:52 PM (spmY9) Stick it your ear. And honey, stick around to take it...

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 02:55 PM (MpP9p)

204 Whassup, my internet friends.

Posted by: DangerGirl at February 23, 2014 02:55 PM (GrtrJ)

205 "Always looking out for me, you are. "

No, please. Don't thank me. It's just what I do.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 02:56 PM (NHZpR)

206 What is the deal with so many outdoor ranges prohibiting FMJ ammunition?  Is it some kind of insurance issue?  Is there some real reason to not shoot FMJ into a dirt back stop?


Does anybody know of any 100 yard or longer ranges in the DFW area that allow FMJ?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 23, 2014 02:56 PM (BcCwi)

207 Last year I was working Reintegration in eastern Afghanistan.  Short version, some farmer gets paid by the Taliban to bury an IED, later decides he doesn't want to risk us or ANA kicking in his door, so he reintegrates.  He has to turn in his weapon - usually an AK, sometimes and SKS, even a couple of PKMs or similar.  But saw lots of .303s come through too.  Rumor was NDS (Afghan KGB) was replacing the functioning AKs with beater Enfields and taking the good shit for themselves.  I got to handle quite a bit of them, would have loved to bring one or two or twenty back.  But we don't do that anymore.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 02:56 PM (5yLmw)

208 I had a long range trip write up on my new PSLs sitting in a notepad document when I went out to my workshop waiting for the gun thread. When I came back a couple of minutes ago, my computer had rebooted for some reason. All those memories ... lost .. like .. tears .. in .. rain.

Posted by: toby928© loves Grease Monkey at February 23, 2014 02:58 PM (QupBk)

209 Wow -- that we don't have time for this guy doesn't look like a murderer at all.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2014 02:59 PM (Hy7dS)

210 One gun a month. It's not just a good idea. It's the law. Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 23, 2014 06:42 PM (BcCwi) VA repealed that bullshit in 2012.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 02:59 PM (MtC8f)

211 I was moving across the river to a new place and thought I'd save some $ on the moving company. I started by moving my ammo by canoe... damn waves swamped me. So I got a flat bottom boat to move my handguns. Storm came up and flipped me upside down, lost everything. So I borrowed a bass boat to move the rifles and shotguns. Motor died, I went downstream then I hit the rapids, swamped, flipped, eventually washed up but lost everything. So I said screw it and loaded all my gunsmithing stuff in the storage. Damned if it wasn't broken into and all stolen. Don't know if I'll start again. Too heartbreaking to start over. Maybe I'll take up curling.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 23, 2014 03:00 PM (vHRtU)

212 I lost my bazooka in a sharknado.

Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2014 03:01 PM (Hy7dS)

213 One gun a month. It's not just a good idea. It's the law. Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 23, No, NC. They unfortunately do not have a one gun a month law, so I have to convince honey that I need another gun. She keeps saying stuff like "remember, we have a birth to pay for in a few months, and then there will be diapers etc etc." I have talked my way into a new shotgun and rifle by promising to kill something edible with both. The best way to convince a pregnant women of anything is offering food.

Posted by: traye at February 23, 2014 03:03 PM (cs+se)

214 I used to have an Enfield converted in India to .308... sweet little shooter with mild handloads.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 23, 2014 03:03 PM (vHRtU)

215 Hi Danger Girl, I donÂ’t own a gun & In this state itÂ’s too hard to have one, Massachusetts. I had a steak dinner with my older brother a little while ago & I made CthulhuÂ’s version of roasted tomatoes. He didnÂ’t give me temperature to cook them, etc. I guessed & they were delicious. Now IÂ’m going to give myself a pedicure. I am not putting polish on, just doing the feet. Last night on the ONT I posted that if anyone has Showtime to watch Shameless. Even if you do not like it, you will love what the character of Kevin says about TFG. My older brother & I both agree that heÂ’s really over the top with what he says. Last weekÂ’s episode is on Showtime now, Kevin says things about the JEF in the first half hour, almost at half hour time. The actor & producer, writers etc are all probably about to get an IRS audit or something. What man as Kevin say is true & I wonÂ’t post it here because I do not want to be banned.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:04 PM (z4WKX)

216 If I can't be in the militia what am I gonna do with 10k + rounds of 30-06. That's a lot of squirrels.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 03:05 PM (JdEZJ)

217 212 I lost my bazooka in a sharknado. Posted by: eleven at February 23, 2014 07:01 PM (Hy7dS) It's cool. Moms Demand Action and CSGV say you can order more inline.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 03:05 PM (MtC8f)

218 Online

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 03:06 PM (MtC8f)

219 Freaked, sell it someone. Just don't put it in a storage unit with poor security, it might get stolen.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at February 23, 2014 03:06 PM (vHRtU)

220 Is under my couch poor security?

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 03:07 PM (JdEZJ)

221 RWC, did you get line I emailed to you from Showtime website early this morning?

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:08 PM (z4WKX)

222 Seeing as how the M1 is standing here next to my chair I might need to get to some ammo.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 03:09 PM (JdEZJ)

223 @199, Iron Grandpa, I just recently got into Lee Enfields. Bought a UF 55 (lst ones made), a .22 trainer (with the barrel not the insert), No 1 wire wrapped barrel for launching grenades, For those of you with yugo SKS's and the wire wrapped Enfields there ain't nothing like launching inert grenades. Its prep for the burning times. BTW I found a grenade launcher can on the Inet and bought it for the enfield. Also last week my No 5 MK 1 showed up..a jungle carbine. There ain't nothing sexier in a gun collection than a Jungle carbine they used to chase them Malay commies around in the jungle back in the day!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 03:09 PM (cCxiu)

224 I have a M1903A3 that I am thinking about scoping. Do any of you have any experience with the S & K insta-mounts? http://www.scopemounts.com/index.html?main.html#

Posted by: toby928© loves Grease Monkey at February 23, 2014 03:10 PM (QupBk)

225 206 Never heard of that.  My local ranges won't let you shoot steel bullets due to fire danger from sparks

Posted by: MAx at February 23, 2014 03:11 PM (b7yum)

226 MUMR, you're a wimp. You post and run. Be a a man and stick around.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 03:12 PM (MpP9p)

227 Hi, Vendette!!!  How you doin'?

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:13 PM (8lmkt)

228 Hi, Vendette!!! How you doin'? Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 07:13 PM (8lmkt) Dahling!! Canada won, despite my expectations.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 03:14 PM (MpP9p)

229 Maryland has a one a month law for pistols.
And prior to banning certain AR-15 types, they were regulated, and limited to one a month as well.

Interestingly though, Maryland also has a "Designated Firearm Collector" status as well. This allows a Designated Collector to purchase as often and as many as one wishes.

Now, as many of you have heard, Mrs VIA has been waiting since September 17th of last year for her first and only regulated firearm to clear paperwork.
It took nine days for Maryland to process the Designated Collector status that allows me to buy pistols by the bus full.

Go figure.
Next, Standard capacity magazines and the Free State.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 03:14 PM (NHZpR)

230 Take what?

Posted by: soothsayer at February 23, 2014 03:15 PM (w2q1W)

231 Enfields!  Wow, we're going to the range on March 16 and my friend is bringing an Enfield so our other friend can shoot it (he's never shot a gun before, he's from England, but he is organizing a trip to WWI battlefields and is very into that).  And our range won't allow steel jacketed ammo, either, gotta be copper.

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:15 PM (8lmkt)

232 So on the last night of the Olympics the best they can find to fill in until prime time is a re-hash of the Harding/Kerrigan debacle? Grrr.

Posted by: Retread at February 23, 2014 03:16 PM (cHwk5)

233 Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 06:56 PM (5yLmw) Bomber, A woman I work with has a son in the serves, he was in Afghanistan & in 2011 he told his mother, when he was home on leave, that his job was to train the recent high school grads to fight in the Afghan Army, itÂ’s a requirement or it was three years ago. Justin said that the Taliban had already gotten to them and if he did what he was supposed to do, heÂ’d be teaching the enemy our war games. Have you found same going on?

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:17 PM (z4WKX)

234 So on the last night of the Olympics the best they can find to fill in until prime time is a re-hash of the Harding/Kerrigan debacle? Grrr. Posted by: Retread at February 23, 2014 07:16 PM (cHwk5) NBC's coverage has been a disgrace.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 03:17 PM (MpP9p)

235 "96 Ahhh.... so this Lib wants to put the 2nd Amendment into a Militia mode...

Then... Militia are military formations. Therefore Militia members should keep military viable weapons...

And the Base military Weapons of the world today? The Select Fire Assault Rifle... Semi Auto Handguns... Squad Support Weapons (Light Machine Guns)... Light AntiTank Weapons (Laws and such).

I don't think the lib understands where his 'logic' takes this...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 23, 2014 05:19 PM (84gbM)"



Those are the weapons of a light infantry unit.  What if me and my neighbors want to start an artillery militia unit?  How about an ADA militia unit?  Since militia units often use outdated equipment no longer in use with the active duty troops, what are the chances of me and my buddies forming a militia unit armed with Davy Crockett weapons.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 23, 2014 03:18 PM (BcCwi)

236 I would not live in a city, county, or state that wants it's citizens unarmed. That is why I live in Texas, land of the free and home of the brave.

Posted by: Erowmero at February 23, 2014 03:19 PM (OONaw)

237 236 How about an ADA militia unit? We shooting drones? I'm definitely in for that.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at February 23, 2014 03:19 PM (Mj+L4)

238 First, Bomber!!!!! 

And, Vendette, hearty congrats on the Canuckistan win in hockey! 

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:20 PM (8lmkt)

239 "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." George Washington Better than John Paul Stevens.

Posted by: Stuff George Washington said... at February 23, 2014 03:20 PM (+1T7c)

240 222 RWC, did you get line I emailed to you from Showtime website early this morning? Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 07:08 PM (z4WKX) Thanks. Checking it right now.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 03:22 PM (MtC8f)

241 In Maryland,our betters decided that making standard capacity magazines illegal would make us,the Governors Subjects, safer.
So they passed a law making it illegal to sell, transfer or purchase a detachable magazine of greater than ten round capacity.

So this is how it works in the Free State.
It is not illegal to own a standard,or extended capacity magazine here.
Just to buy them.
If I wish,I can shoot 23 miles up into Pennsylvania and buy standard capacity magazines by the truckload.
I can buy 100rd magazines for an AR-15 in PA, and bring it back into the state.
All this law has done is make it not impossible, but simply inconvenient to procure standard capacity magazines.

Yeah Us, the protected class of Maryland subjects.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 23, 2014 03:23 PM (NHZpR)

242 NBC's coverage has been a disgrace.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 07:17 PM (MpP9p)


What, you don't enjoy Johnny Weir's fashion statements, make up and hair?  Or Bob Costas's eyes oozing pus and creepiness?  Or is it the execrable "yooman interest" pablum they keep trying to stuff down our throats?  Or the "Russians are bad and their country sucks donkey bawls" even though *their* president has been front and center and, by all accounts, cordial and charming to all?  I'm scratching my head here over your negativity, Miss Vendette! 

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:23 PM (8lmkt)

243 Now, as many of you have heard, Mrs VIA has been waiting since September 17th of last year for her first and only regulated firearm to clear paperwork.
It took nine days for Maryland to process the Designated Collector status that allows me to buy pistols by the bus full.

It took from September 10th until a day or two before February 10th in another case I know about. I may look into Designated Collector status. For a friend, of course.

Posted by: Retread at February 23, 2014 03:23 PM (cHwk5)

244 And, Vendette, hearty congrats on the Canuckistan win in hockey! Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 07:20 PM (8lmkt) Thank you!

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 03:23 PM (MpP9p)

245 A good friend and customer of mine has guns and ammo laying all over the place in his office. I get a good feeling going in there. Some folks would freak out but I just love going to see him.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 03:24 PM (JdEZJ)

246 So on the last night of the Olympics the best they can find to fill in until prime time is a re-hash of the Harding/Kerrigan debacle? Grrr. Posted by: Retread at February 23, 2014 07:16 PM (cHwk5) It was 20 years ago, so it is significant in the eyes of the idiots at NBC. I havenÂ’t watched any of it. I cannot believe itÂ’s still on.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:24 PM (z4WKX)

247 Yeah Us, the protected class of Maryland subjects. You're just making your neighbors richer! Heh.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 03:24 PM (doBIb)

248 Carol, Nope. No email.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 03:24 PM (MtC8f)

249 Hi Vendette, Hi Peaches!

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:25 PM (z4WKX)

250 There's a show on NatGeo titled "American Cougar" and it's actually about big cats...imagine that

Posted by: fastfreefall at February 23, 2014 03:25 PM (Tz35j)

251 Hi, Peaches!!

Carol, I haven't been involved in the training, but there are lots of Taliban sympathies throughout the ANA.  And the police.  And the population in general. 

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 03:26 PM (5yLmw)

252 What, you don't enjoy Johnny Weir's fashion statements, make up and hair? Or Bob Costas's eyes oozing pus and creepiness? Or is it the execrable "yooman interest" pablum they keep trying to stuff down our throats? Or the "Russians are bad and their country sucks donkey bawls" even though *their* president has been front and center and, by all accounts, cordial and charming to all? I'm scratching my head here over your negativity, Miss Vendette! Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 07:23 PM (8lmkt) Darling, you are wonderful beyond compare. If I could I would send you the Men of Curling Calendar because you deserve it.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 03:27 PM (MpP9p)

253 @232, Ms Peaches, you may want to put a towel in between you and the enfield or use a product called a limbsaver. That Enfield is a kicker. I like those and wear the shoulder bruise as a badge of honor. But if the Brit is shooting it, let him have at it (with no shoulder helpers) and enjoy the experience the Brit troops did. BTW tell him I am still pissed about the war of 1812.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 03:28 PM (cCxiu)

254 251 There's a show on NatGeo titled "American Cougar" and it's actually about big cats...imagine that Posted by: fastfreefall at February 23, 2014 07:25 PM (Tz35j) So it's not the one I rented at the Motel 6.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 03:29 PM (MtC8f)

255 You want to interpret the intent of the 2nd Amendment?  Look no further than the 3rd and 4th.  Get your damn soldiers off my lawn and out of my house.

Posted by: John Teh Libertarian at February 23, 2014 03:30 PM (qmTBz)

256 Ronon Dex/Khal Drogo has a new tv series on the Sundance Channel. The Red Road.

Posted by: soothsayer at February 23, 2014 03:30 PM (w2q1W)

257 BTW tell him I am still pissed about the war of 1812. Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 07:28 PM (cCxiu) Get over it.

Posted by: Vendette says Go Canada and Go Navy! at February 23, 2014 03:30 PM (MpP9p)

258 At the time the second amendment was written, private citizens owned warships and artillery. The Militia was meant to be a well armed free people that would be impossible for the federal or any state government to impose tyranny upon. It was thought that the militia should be far, far more powerful than any national military. Now the ruling class considers the only legitimate militia to be the national guard, which is truly backwards. The second amendment's clause on the militia is intended to mean all the free people who are not in the government's military should be well armed, because their being strong is necessary for them to remain free. Take that away, and freedom will go away too.

Posted by: Dustin at February 23, 2014 03:30 PM (0a/7L)

259 It is really a shame that so many of the original colonies have such a dim view of firearms. Its like an alternate reality where the US is taken over by a bunch of pussies. Except that reality is real. What to do? You can't revolt, that's not the way to do things, you can vote but that doesn't really work, so what? Hope you die before it all goes to crap? That's not much of a plan.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 03:31 PM (JdEZJ)

260 Musket Morgan going away in March, part of his brilliant strategy to challenge Megyn Kelly,

Posted by: Corolianus Snow at February 23, 2014 03:31 PM (Jsiw/)

261 254 @232,

Judge Roy, I ain't firin' that beast!!  I have all I can handle with fluffy and the odd AR I am pressed into trying.  It's just good clean fun, not looking to get hurt, but thanks for the warning!  I will tell my very wonderful Brit friend to put some padding between him and the rifle.

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:32 PM (8lmkt)

262 >>>MUMR, you're a wimp. You post and run. Be a a man and stick around. Why on earth would you wish that on us?

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 03:32 PM (eQJwb)

263

Posted by: lindafell at February 23, 2014 06:47 PM (PGO8C)

 

 

You realize, those are just the bullets, not the entire rounds right? That will make for a pretty expensive .22 round.

Posted by: Bill R. at February 23, 2014 03:32 PM (QnRSM)

264 If I could I would send you the Men of Curling Calendar because you deserve it.

Posted by: Vendette at February 23, 2014 07:27 PM (MpP9p)


mmmmmm, sounds fun!!  i will use my imagination.

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:35 PM (8lmkt)

265 Why on earth would you wish that on us? Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 07:32 PM (eQJwb) He can prove he is a man?

Posted by: Vendette says Go Canada and Go Navy! at February 23, 2014 03:36 PM (MpP9p)

266 Carol, Nope. No email. Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 07:24 PM (MtC8f) I sent clip from Showtime website but it cut off the best line from Kevin. I hit the share button & put in your email address. Ace, please donÂ’t ban me. I am quoting from a television show on Showtime. This couple is expecting triplets. They are best friends with neighbors of five kids. Oldest of the five kids is now the legal guardian of the others. Father is a drunk & mother is mentally ill & took off. Two weeks ago oldest sister Fiona had coke and it was her birthday. Three year old got into it. V & husband Kevin are talking about it in last weeksÂ’ episode. V is expecting triplets. She is worried about how their kids will grow up. He said one will be this, one will be that & one will be elected president. V responded of the US? He said why not? TheyÂ’ve already elected a skinny half black muslim with the name of a towel headed dictator as president. It is much funnier if you heard him say it.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:36 PM (z4WKX)

267 Oh, Piers Morgan is having a "painful period."  Haha!!! Link on the increasingly useless Drudge.

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:41 PM (8lmkt)

268 Peaches you sound pretty cool. Sorry you are stuck in LA with nowhere to exercise Fluffy. If you ever get a hankering to come to the GA we can sure find a nice place for ya. We are sometimes known as the Peach State. Just say'n.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 03:41 PM (JdEZJ)

269 '@ Vendette, I am trying hard to get over the war of 1812. But after my 6th beer and shooting an Enfield or two, I start to feeling rather kindly toward them Brits and forgive them for burning the White house down. In fact I'm kinda hoping they come on back before 2016 and do it again!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 03:42 PM (cCxiu)

270 Bomber, I hope you donÂ’t have to go back there.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:42 PM (z4WKX)

271 >>> Oh, Piers Morgan is having a "painful period." I can help.

Posted by: Midol at February 23, 2014 03:43 PM (Ua6T/)

272 freaked, that is incredibly kind of you, thank you!! 

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:43 PM (8lmkt)

273 OT OH NOES! via Drudge Piers Mogan quitting CNN. Claims Merica don't like him.

Posted by: YIKES! at February 23, 2014 03:44 PM (mETGQ)

274 America turned Piers Morgan!? Hahahahahaahaha etc.....

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 03:45 PM (JdEZJ)

275 OH NOES! via Drudge Piers Mogan quitting CNN. Claims Merica don't like him. Posted by: YIKES! at February 23, 2014 07:44 PM (mETGQ) I just started reading it! ItÂ’s no great loss, I hope he goes back to GB.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:46 PM (z4WKX)

276 Ladies, may I present to you the men of curling fundraising calendar: http://tinyurl.com/lmu6vr3

Posted by: Vendette says Go Canada and Go Navy! at February 23, 2014 03:47 PM (MpP9p)

277 Two weeks ago oldest sister Fiona had coke and it was her birthday. Three year old got into it. O.o ...I'm hoping that meant Coca-Cola.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 23, 2014 03:47 PM (m9V0o)

278 Brother Cavil, it was cocaine, itÂ’s only a television show but it is very entertaining.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:49 PM (z4WKX)

279 I graduated 34 years ago, so not sure anymore, do they still commission VMI profs in the Virginia Militia(unorganized) or disorganized as we used to say?

Posted by: FtWorthMike at February 23, 2014 03:49 PM (/E5Q4)

280 Well you are welcome Ms. Peaches. Holler any time you get close and me and I'm sure some other morons would be glad to show you around.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 03:49 PM (JdEZJ)

281 @ peaches 262, that is a wise choice. AR-15 huh? I don't have one, I'm more of an M1A guy myself. But those AR-15's have come a long way. I have never been in the military but lost lots of friends in the early Nam days when they were still figuring out the M-16. For those of you who want an interesting read, check out "The Hill fights..First battle of Ke Sahn". It details the failings of the Stoner design which have since been corrected. I may even have to break down and buy one of them cat and rat rifles since I have crates of ammo stacked up for it.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 03:50 PM (cCxiu)

282 Turned on Piers Morgan I meant to say. Wait, that didn't come out right.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 03:51 PM (JdEZJ)

283 Ladies, may I present to you the men of curling fundraising calendar:

Wow, looks pretty good, but they are kinda chintzy with the previews . . . could only see the one guy.  So, this is curling au naturel??

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:51 PM (8lmkt)

284 Carol, Ouch. We'll see how long that show lasts.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 03:51 PM (MtC8f)

285 278 ...I'm hoping that meant Coca-Cola. It's not Sister Wives, it's Shameless.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at February 23, 2014 03:51 PM (Mj+L4)

286 OT: From an anonymous source in the Justice Department: “As is stands today, the Constitution forbids a third term of course, but as any American knows, the Constitution is a living document which is meant to be altered as the nation sees fit and in time of great need. The fact that we have had 27 amendments, shows that it has been done many times in the past, so the idea of a third Obama term, though it would require leaping over what may appear to be insurmountable hurdles, is still quite possible if, in the best interest of all Americans, it is deemed necessary to prevent far Right Republicans from taking control of the Executive branch of government. This is something that the Obama administration would deem a threat to our democracy, thus requiring emergency measures.” http://tinyurl.com/k7bn6ct

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 23, 2014 03:52 PM (E+uky)

287 OK hoard, anyone know a good site to find a hard case for a Win 1894? Basically a rifle 36 inches long?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 23, 2014 03:52 PM (0FSuD)

288 Judge Roy, my friend who's bringing the Enfield (I believe it is "one" of his Enfields) is a 'Nam vet.  Marine, semper fi!

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 03:53 PM (8lmkt)

289 Drudge is going off the Journal's projection of 32 medals before the games.

Posted by: Corolianus Snow at February 23, 2014 03:54 PM (Jsiw/)

290 We'll see how long that show lasts. Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 07:51 PM (MtC8f) RWC, This is fourth season. My older brother told me I would like it but it didnÂ’t seem like the type of show I would like. I stared watching from the first season on demand after the second episode this year. I didnÂ’t watch any of this season until I caught up on the first three. It really is funny.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:54 PM (z4WKX)

291 You realize, those are just the bullets, not the entire rounds right? That will make for a pretty expensive .22 round. Posted by: Bill R. Sorry, didn't know. I don't use 22 or reload, just hear you guys bitching about getting it all the time I usually get the whole round and thought that what they were, my bad.

Posted by: lindafell at February 23, 2014 03:55 PM (PGO8C)

292 Brother Cavil, it was cocaine, itÂ’s only a television show but it is very entertaining. Well. At least it wasn't a real thing. ...this is why I stopped watching most TV...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 23, 2014 03:55 PM (m9V0o)

293 RWC, Kevin can get away with saying things because his wife is black on the show. IÂ’ve let my cuticle stuff on my feet too long. IÂ’ve got to soak them now.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:55 PM (z4WKX)

294 PMS = "Piers Morgan Sucks"

Posted by: --- at February 23, 2014 03:56 PM (MMC8r)

295 Wow, looks pretty good, but they are kinda chintzy with the previews . . . could only see the one guy. So, this is curling au naturel?? Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 07:51 PM (8lmkt) Must buy the calendar for Peaches...

Posted by: Vendette says Go Canada and Go Navy! at February 23, 2014 03:56 PM (MpP9p)

296 Posted by: WalrusRex at February 23, 2014 07:52 PM (E+uky) Coming soon, a postponed election via EO due to the national emergency potential of a Republican majority trifecta!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 23, 2014 03:57 PM (o3MSL)

297 This was what I was referring to,
http://tiny.cc/zvgrbx

Posted by: Corolianus Snow at February 23, 2014 03:57 PM (Jsiw/)

298 Shameless is funny for that exact reason. It's one show that really does make fun of everyone.

Posted by: Adam at February 23, 2014 03:58 PM (Aif/5)

299 I don't see why a militia needs weapons unless they intend to start a war. A US militia should be for unarmed for peace keeping missions. Historically militias were unarmed. In fact, the original militias were debating societies.

Posted by: gun control think tank at February 23, 2014 03:58 PM (5X7Rx)

300 this is why I stopped watching most TV... Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 23, 2014 07:55 PM (m9V0o) I watch only a few shows & I really like this one. I keep television off unless I am watching something, preferably something w/o commercials. I like Showtime & TCM, depending on whatÂ’s on.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 03:58 PM (z4WKX)

301 >>>Posted by: WalrusRex at February 23, 2014 07:52 PM That appears to be a satire site. Unless Miley Cyrus is really coming out with a line of children's lingerie.

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 23, 2014 03:59 PM (eQJwb)

302 Well if anybody still cares about the Daytona 500, they're uncovering the cars now.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:01 PM (5yLmw)

303 Piers Mogan quitting CNN. Claims Merica don't like him. ------------ Heh. How about that? He's more perceptive than I thought.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 04:01 PM (aDwsi)

304 Well if anybody still cares about the Daytona 500, they're uncovering the cars now.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 08:01 PM (5yLmw)


really, they're going to re-start it?  wow . . .

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 04:02 PM (8lmkt)

305 Shameless is funny for that exact reason. It's one show that really does make fun of everyone. Posted by: Adam at February 23, 2014 07:58 PM (Aif/5) Adam, I think we are the only ones here that watch Shameless. I just started watching this season but Showtime is good with on demand. They keep all seasons up. Last year I started watching Dexter from Season 1 & glad I did. It was suspenseful and I didnÂ’t have to wait a week to watch next episode.

Posted by: Carol at February 23, 2014 04:02 PM (z4WKX)

306 They're talking about just getting to halfway tonight, then call it good.  Glad I didn't pay to go to this one.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:03 PM (5yLmw)

307 Piers Mogan quitting CNN. Claims Merica don't like him. ------------ Heh. How about that? He's more perceptive than I thought. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 08:01 PM (aDwsi) *Plays the world's smallest violin*

Posted by: Vendette says Go Canada and Go Navy! at February 23, 2014 04:03 PM (MpP9p)

308 Historically militias were unarmed. In fact, the original militias were debating societies. --------------- Oh? I'll be darned, I thought they were goat-milking societies. Good to know.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 04:03 PM (aDwsi)

309 Good News: Piers is quitting CNN Bad News: Alec Baldwin is having a hissy fit and threatening to leave NYC. I prefer to keep him contained there.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 23, 2014 04:03 PM (6Nj7A)

310 Surprise, surprise;

Posted by: Corolianus Snow at February 23, 2014 04:03 PM (Jsiw/)

311 Piers is quitting CNN ---------------- Hardest hit...., well..., no one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 04:06 PM (aDwsi)

312 @ Peaches, 289, Please thank that Marine for his service to God and country. And do me a favor...just put your hand on the back of his shooting shoulder so you can feel the kick from that enfield. Dad was in WWII and danced thru France and Germany. He told me there was a quote from some Brit general that went sort of like this.. 'The Americans had a target rifle, the Germans had a hunting rifle, and the British had a battle rifle!" Now I think that is wishful thinking. While I don't have any, I have fired the M-1 carbine and its big bad brother the M-1 garand. They ain't nothing to be trifled with.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 04:07 PM (cCxiu)

313 That appears to be a satire site. Unless Miley Cyrus is really coming out with a line of children's lingerie. - Garters and hose for toddlers?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 23, 2014 04:08 PM (E+uky)

314
Piers Mogan quitting CNN.
Claims Merica don't like him.

Posted by: YIKES!

Light dawns on Dunderhead.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 23, 2014 04:08 PM (xrX4n)

315 I think we are the only ones here that watch Shameless --------- Well I could understand why a lot of people wouldn't like it.

Posted by: Adam at February 23, 2014 04:09 PM (Aif/5)

316 Historically militias were unarmed. In fact, the original militias were debating societies. Posted by: gun control think tank at February 23, 2014 07:58 PM (5X7Rx) Liar. Everyone knows they were Ghey drinking and hook up clubs.

Posted by: Barney at February 23, 2014 04:10 PM (0FSuD)

317 Good grief. This thing is still around?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 04:10 PM (GEICT)

318 I think we are the only ones here that watch Shameless ---------- Perhaps I should read all of the posts. Is Miley Cyrus starring in Shameless?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 04:11 PM (aDwsi)

319 Wait, so Brian gets his first "prime time" Daytona 500 because of rain? The fans? Gone.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 23, 2014 04:11 PM (0FSuD)

320 Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 08:03 PM (aDwsi) One of the more crucial debates was whether or not the militias needed to separate the goat milking platoons from the cow milking platoons

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 23, 2014 04:11 PM (o3MSL)

321 BC - Stop complaining and post something 'gunny'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 04:12 PM (aDwsi)

322 One of the more crucial debates was whether or not the militias needed to separate the goat milking platoons from the cow milking platoons Posted by: Hrothgar -------------------------- Presumably, there was considerable debate when full-auto milking machines came along.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 04:13 PM (aDwsi)

323 322 BC - Stop complaining and post something 'gunny'. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 08:12 PM (aDwsi) I started the ammo discussion. Like 4 hours ago. But still, I've contributed. Plus a certain someone won't check his fucking email. *pointedly ignores DC*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 04:14 PM (GEICT)

324 Please thank that Marine for his service to God and country.

And do me a favor...just put your hand on the back of his shooting shoulder so you can feel the kick from that enfield.

Done and done, Judge Roy!  I told my Brit friend he could shoot fluffy -- judging by your comments, the Enfield might not be a good idea for his first time shooting a weapon.  fluffy is no slouch, but I beat myself up popping off 97 rounds a couple of weeks ago.  I was relentless . . . it felt good!

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 04:14 PM (8lmkt)

325 wait, wait . . . Cochran, you were a gunny?  omg!

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 04:15 PM (8lmkt)

326 Hey, Gun cases? Little help here. Short rifle, 1894.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 23, 2014 04:16 PM (0FSuD)

327 326 wait, wait . . . Cochran, you were a gunny? omg! Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 08:15 PM (8lmkt) Ha! No ma'am. Not that kind. I have the utmost respect and admiration for our fine men and women in uniform, but I've never served.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 23, 2014 04:16 PM (GEICT)

328

@ 288 Nip Sip

 

 

Go to eBay, and type in "Hard Rifle Case" in the search field.  Scads of cases there.

 

 

Also, try Guncases dot com/hard-gun-cases.html

 

 

Bass Pro and Cabela's will be sources, and if you want something vintage, historic and of period, you can't beat Collector's Firearms in Houston, TX.  At the corner of Richmond (ampersand) Fondren, they've armaments going back to the 13th century. 

 

A brief story about Collector's Firearms.  I'd brought Kim DuToit and his family to the store for their first visit, and introduced them to the owner, Mr. Mike Clark.  Mr. Clark, having known of Kim's website (it was still active then), gave us the grand tour.  And that is how I came to have the opportunity to hold, in my white-cotton-gloved hands, the incredibly engraved, gold inlaid and bas-relief wood carved Mauser 88 "Commission" rifle, formerly belonging to Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany.  No telling what that thing was worth, but I think it'd buy my house a time or three over.

 

 

I think I could burn up a sizeable part of a Powerball lottery jackpot at Collector's.  It's a "must see" for any Moron visiting Houston!

 

 

 

Jim
Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 23, 2014 04:16 PM (vvk2F)

329 Hey, Gun cases? Little help here. Short rifle, 1894.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 23, 2014 08:16 PM (0FSuD)


little google search comes up with 1894 Winchester Short Rifle - Buffalo Arms Co.  And, of course, nine miles of other shit.  Try it! 

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 04:19 PM (8lmkt)

330 . Cochran, you were a gunny? omg! -------------- And that is how rumors start.... My fault. Peaches - I meant 'gunny', as in 'about guns'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 23, 2014 04:19 PM (aDwsi)

331 Not gunny but funny. Unfortunate book covers. http://tinyurl.com/nxbk9yc

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 23, 2014 04:19 PM (E+uky)

332 oh, sorry, Nip, you are looking for a case for said gun.  when you said "gun cases," I misconstrued it to be something like "nut cases," thinking you were referring to the esteemed moron horde.  my bad . . .

Posted by: Peaches at February 23, 2014 04:20 PM (8lmkt)

333 Jim, what about display/gift cases for pistols? I'm looking for a wooden box type case with a glass cover, and a molded interior that would fit a 1911 type pistol. It would be for show/presentation. Do you know of any places that make these?

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 04:21 PM (doBIb)

334

EC, I'd look for those on Gunbroker, as I see 'em there pretty frequently.  I'd bet Collector's in Houston has quite a few, too.  It would be worth your while to call, or send an email inquiry.  Their online market staff are very professional, responsive and cool to work with.

 

 

collectorsfirearms DOT com/

 

 

Good luck!

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

 

 

Posted by: Jim at February 23, 2014 04:25 PM (vvk2F)

335 test

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 23, 2014 04:28 PM (IVgIK)

336 Justice Stevens might be surprised by the original from which the Second Amendment was taken, in perhaps a little over-compressed form:

<i>7. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military shall be kept under strict subordination to and be governed by the civil powers.</i>

(The Address and Reasons of Dissent of the Minority of the Convention of Pennsylvania to their Constituents. December 12, 1787)

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at February 23, 2014 04:28 PM (lILC0)

337 EC, Howell Display.

Posted by: RWC at February 23, 2014 04:30 PM (MtC8f)

338 "The Americans had a target rifle, the Germans had a hunting rifle, and the British had a battle rifle!"

Now I think that is wishful thinking. While I don't have any, I have fired the M-1 carbine and its big bad brother the M-1 garand.

They ain't nothing to be trifled with.


Posted by: Judge Roy Bean

---------------------

That saying actually refers to the rifles of WWI. So they're talking about the '03 Springfield.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at February 23, 2014 04:33 PM (celt+)

339 Excellent gun thread this week, thanks.

Posted by: cemoto at February 23, 2014 04:40 PM (BD4BL)

340 Thanks for the correction Mr. Taro. I just know what Dad told me. I see everyone has run off chasing the new thread smell. I'm gonna hang here. I have 2 Yugo M-57's to clean, a case of beer and nothing much better to do.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 04:41 PM (cCxiu)

341 Thing is the Germans took their hunting rifle to WW2. I'd love to have a Springfield.. Don't know if they are allowed in the Militia though.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 04:41 PM (JdEZJ)

342 I bought a Springfield from CMP several years ago.  Don't know if they still have them, haven't checked in a while.

Posted by: Bomber at February 23, 2014 04:42 PM (5yLmw)

343 No they don't Bomber. Otherwise I'd have one. Got a great CMPM

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 04:43 PM (JdEZJ)

344 CAC has a margin blowing post up, WOW, just WOW!!! I don't understand most of what he's talking about but the pictures are pretty

Posted by: lindafell at February 23, 2014 04:45 PM (PGO8C)

345 Got a great CMP M1 though is what I was trying to say. S# around 550k.

Posted by: freaked at February 23, 2014 04:45 PM (JdEZJ)

346 Thanks Jim and RWC.

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 05:05 PM (doBIb)

347 CMP still has some good stuff? I need to check that out. I was hearttbroken when the Chump in Chief killed all the Korean garands and carbines from coming back in. Sure they were in rough shape no doubt..Lend, lease then rode hard and put away wet. But I would have liked one of those.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 05:09 PM (cCxiu)

348 Judge if old guns could talk ...

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2014 05:11 PM (JdEZJ)

349 Those Howell display cases are pimptastic! I'm definitely going to get one when the time is right!

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 05:18 PM (doBIb)

350 Katie Pavlich finds Brady CampaignÂ’s gun survey loaded (with false premises) If you scroll down She twitters Molon Labe 


http://tinyurl.com/nx8rkwu

Posted by: The Hickster at February 23, 2014 05:18 PM (TI3xG)

351 Judge if old guns could talk ... I've got one I'd love to hear the history of. M1922 MKII from 1933. Somebody took the rifle apart, blued everything, put on a Lyman 17a front sight and mounted it in an 03A3 stock. This little puppy will constantly shoot 1" groups at 100 yds. It was such an eye opener that I'm having CMP convert a 1928 03 with Lyman 48S rear and Lyman 17A XNB front sights mounted on a new barrel. Now that will definitely be a target rifle.

Posted by: Panhandler at February 23, 2014 05:21 PM (LqVNJ)

352 Panhandler an old gun like that has most likely outlived many people who have held it. Who knows where its been?

Posted by: f'd at February 23, 2014 05:28 PM (JdEZJ)

353 NEWSFLASH: Guess what country has the highest per-capita ownership of firearms?  Answer: Iceland.

NEWSFLASH: Guess what country has the lowest per-capita crime rate?  Answer: Wait for it... wait for it... wait for it...

Posted by: John Teh Libertarian at February 23, 2014 05:29 PM (qmTBz)

354 354, I thought it was Switzerland?

Posted by: EC at February 23, 2014 05:34 PM (doBIb)

355 If anyone is interested, AIM has a factory refurbished Taurus Judge in stainless for $419.95 delivered. http://is.gd/j6UdeD

Posted by: toby928© loves Grease Monkey at February 23, 2014 05:35 PM (QupBk)

356 353 fd, that's the question. These 22LR rifles were made from 1922 to 1942 as training rifles. They were mounted in a sporter stock and made in 2 versions - military and NRA. Short of an Anschlutz they are the most accurate .22 you've ever seen. I'd love to know the history behind this one. What was the original configuration? Who had it converted? Who did the conversion? Why am I so lucky?

Posted by: Panhandler at February 23, 2014 05:36 PM (LqVNJ)

357 @ 352 Panhandler, that is a nice one. I only have a few .22 trainers. 2 Romanian M-69's A polish WZ 78, with heavy match type barrel , that has put many a squirrel and rabbit on the table. I wouldn't part with it for anything. And the Enfield No. 2 MK 4/1 .22 trainer. With the price of .22 ammo I have been shooting mosins, AK's and SKS's mostly. It ain't that much more price wise and lots more fun.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 06:15 PM (cCxiu)

358 358 Judge Roy, the fellow who sold me this M1922 has a son who decided he liked the Romanian rifle better so they put the 1922 up for sale, I've never seen let alone shot one so I'm happy with the 1922. Right now I'm bidding on a Lee Enfield Mk#3 22 that looks brand new.

Posted by: Panhandler at February 23, 2014 06:29 PM (LqVNJ)

359 "Do you know of any places that make these?"

I have seen some, always made by hand, in my experience.

Posted by: navybrat at February 23, 2014 06:48 PM (AW7Gr)

360 @ 358 Pahandler. Good luck on getting that .22 enfield trainer. They be rarer than hens teeth now. BTW Samco Global Arms have them, but they were converted from No. 2 MKIV .410 muskets by adding a barrel insert (sleeve). From what I understand the MKIV muskets were single shot affairs for Prison guards lest they be overwhelmed by the inmates and rifles siezed. At $595 I don't think they are worth it. Glad I got mine and am keeping my fingers crossed for you too!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 06:57 PM (cCxiu)

361 Oh one more thing before I go (its bedtime here). Check out Family Firearms and Finishes. Talk to Todd. Google them. He is an 01 dealer and scours gun shows and gets the best picks from the big online dealers etc. He isn't cheap but will get you the best example of any difficult to locate gun you are looking for. He is as honest as the day is long. I just bought a tanfoglio semi auto 2 toned 9mm pistol from him (among other things). It has 'Mossad" and 2 stars of David on the slide. While I am not of the Jewish persuasion, I thought that would piss em off pretty good if I ever got back to working in the mideast! Tell him Lenny from Texas sent ya!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 23, 2014 07:10 PM (cCxiu)

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