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March 23, 2014

Gun Thread (3-23-2014)
— andy

Georgia's 2A Bill

Score one for the home state, where the legislature just sent a sweeping liberalization of gun laws to the governor. Among other things, it would:

* Repeal the unnecessary and duplicative state-required license for a firearms dealer, instead requiring only a Federal Firearms License (FFL).
* Prohibit a ban on firearms in public housing, ensuring that the right to self-defense should not be infringed based on where one calls home.
* Remove the sweeping restrictions on legally carrying a firearm with a WCL in bars, leaving this decision to private property owners.
* Allow for churches to opt-in for legal carry with only a civil penalty of a $100 if a person happens to carry into a prohibited church unknowingly.

Full details at the link, but this is a very, very good development.

Andrew Branca at NRA Annual Meeting

Our friend Andrew Branca wanted me to let y'all know that he'll be speaking at the NRA Annual Meeting in Indianapolis next month.

IÂ’ll be speaking on Stand-Your-Ground, the Castle Doctrine, and whatever else comes to mind as part of the Â“17th Annual National Firearms Law Seminar,Â” held on Friday, April 25.

If you're in the neighborhood, you probably want to check this out.

Gun Of The Week

(answer below)

Marksmanship Award

Woman stops robbery with her own gun. #2A #NRA #SelfDefenseIsAHumanRight http://t.co/Z8lyXi3Yim
— CamEdwards (@CamEdwards) March 15, 2014

Gun Of The Week - Answer

That's the Dragunov (or SVD) sniper rifle in 7.62x54R.

Cool Hunting Cabin? Or Coolest Hunting Cabin Ever?

Jerry Miculek Shoots The FN P90

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1 My Pop Tart has a high-capacity magazine and a thingy on top that goes up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 23, 2014 11:46 AM (531M3)

2 I'm proud that fellow moron Andrew Branca is speaking at the NRA meeting.

Posted by: stace at March 23, 2014 11:47 AM (9PXzx)

3 P90 it works, but pricey like a Tavor.

Posted by: DM at March 23, 2014 11:50 AM (VdNG6)

4 Dragunov. Any Bond Gamer could tell you that.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2014 11:50 AM (oZIKM)

5 So yesterday, some girlfriends and I hosted a skeet shooting party for one friend's daughter and a few of her friends. This was out at the National Shooting Complex in San Antonio, where the nationals are held. Except when we got there, they had us shoot sporting clays instead of skeet. I had shot some skeet years ago and loved it, but never sporting clays. That was really fun, and I shot much better than I thought I would. A couple of the girls hadn't shot before, and you know how fun it is to take a new shooter and watch them enjoy blasting things to bits.

Posted by: stace at March 23, 2014 11:53 AM (9PXzx)

6 My very first M1 Garand was recently delivered. Bought it from CMP. Service grade SA. Made in 1943. My son and I have been making lots of PING.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 23, 2014 11:54 AM (ZBXhE)

7 There was a home invader shooting just down the road, this last week. In Corvalis. Homeowner killed a thief who broke into his home.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2014 11:54 AM (oZIKM)

8 space of aids

Posted by: The Savage Weiner at March 23, 2014 11:54 AM (6j8ke)

9 I hope concrete girl sees this thread, she has some questions for the gunnies among us.

I've been sickish all week, finally figured out it's that fuckin' Hoppes -- which is now out on the patio wrapped in a plastic bag and stuffed in a plastic box with a lid. Anybody ever use Hoppes Elite products? I saw on a forum that it's not as toxic and no fumes.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 11:55 AM (8lmkt)

10 fun of the week is a bad sniper rifle. Barrel's not free floated (gas tube). Good to 200 yards, fine for a jihadi, not a precision rifle. It does look sexy, though. I'm certain I'll get pushback on this poat, but hey...I can take a punch.

Posted by: tangonine at March 23, 2014 11:55 AM (x3YFz)

11 Guns N Boobehs Gun Thread Compliance Pic http://fotodes.ru/upload/img1351010885.jpg

Posted by: kbdabear at March 23, 2014 11:57 AM (aTXUx)

12 Muad'dib, that is awesome! I shot one last weekend and plinked. Fun gun!

And, garrett, good for your neighbor. At least nobody has to worry about that asshole breaking into another home, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 11:57 AM (8lmkt)

13 Sidearm and Sideboob http://tinyurl.com/n8u7dud

Posted by: kbdabear at March 23, 2014 11:58 AM (aTXUx)

14 5 So yesterday, some girlfriends and I hosted a skeet shooting party for one friend's daughter and a few of her friends. This was out at the National Shooting Complex in San Antonio, where the nationals are held. Posted by: stace at March 23, 2014 03:53 PM (9PXzx) I shot skeet in Reno, just to watch it fly

Posted by: kbdabear at March 23, 2014 12:00 PM (aTXUx)

15 Gussied up my CZ-75 with Pau Ferro grips and nice slotted screws to replace the hideous Philips:

http://tinyurl.com/otg544a

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at March 23, 2014 12:01 PM (celt+)

16 Peaches, it's been dream of mine for decades to own a piece of history like that. Couldn't be more pleased. Pretty sure this one will come to the range every trip.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 23, 2014 12:01 PM (GnJ7A)

17 stace: "I'm proud that fellow moron Andrew Branca is speaking at the NRA meeting." *blush* :-) --Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 23, 2014 12:03 PM (8gaTv)

18 It's a very nice gun, Muad'dib. Congratulations on fulfilling a dream. I know you will have a lot of fun with it.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 12:03 PM (8lmkt)

19 Pretty much the same thing the Sheriff said, Peaches!

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2014 12:04 PM (oZIKM)

20
I've been sickish all week, finally figured out it's that fuckin' Hoppes -- which is now out on the patio wrapped in a plastic bag and stuffed in a plastic box with a lid. Anybody ever use Hoppes Elite products? I saw on a forum that it's not as toxic and no fumes.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 03:55 PM (8lmkt)

Peaches, I had the same problem with headaches/queasiness. Now I use Gunzilla which you can get from these guys (elsewhere too I am sure) http://www.gsttraining.net/

Posted by: Steck at March 23, 2014 12:04 PM (5i94q)

21 So, okay, I'm gonna ask this for concrete girl, in case she shows up later and misses the thread. She had her heart set on a Ruger LC9, but found out she can't get one in her state (same one I'm in). Wanted to know if anyone could suggest a reasonable alternative for a carry guy.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 12:06 PM (8lmkt)

22 Peaches for CCW are you allowed to get this? http://tinyurl.com/stexsw380 This is what I just got. Very small.

Posted by: Steck at March 23, 2014 12:08 PM (5i94q)

23 i mean carry gun, of course. and, thanks for the tip, Steck, I will check out the gunzilla. i had a headache and general malaise all week, thought maybe a sinus infection, kinda flu-ish feeling. perfume does the same thing to me, it's some kind of auto-immune response to the volatile chemicals.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 12:08 PM (8lmkt)

24 I'd really like to get some trigger time on a PS90 (civilian version, which is what Jerry's actually shooting in the video - P90 is full auto).

By all accounts they (i) run like a charm (ii) are accurate (iii) have no recoil (iv) hold 50 rounds at a time and (v) are caveman easy to field strip and maintain.

The round's nothing special ballistically. Still, I'd bet you could put a lot of 'em on target quickly, even with the semi-auto PS90.

If I owned one, I would feel a constant, gnawing temptation to submit to the BATFE hassle and put a proper P90 barrel on it as a registered SBR (short barreled rifle).

Posted by: P.M. at March 23, 2014 12:08 PM (MCVbD)

25 There are far more people who's views on guns go from anti to pro as the result of either being a crime victim or knowing one than the other way round. Way more. But you would not know it because the leftard media embargoes these stories. Virtually every person I know who carries a gun (myself included) has either been threatened or robbed or personally knows someone who has. I don't have any specific numbers on hand, but I think most people would be surprised at the number of folks who have either personally been robbed or are no more than one degree from someone who has. This omnipresent fear of crime is one of the major reasons why gun bans are such a loser of an issue. I say gun bans and not "gun control" because many of the people I know who have and carry guns everywhere support background checks. If the SC decides that the people have a right to carry guns outside their homes, even the leftwing enclaves in the big cities will fall in line.

Posted by: Czar Peter at March 23, 2014 12:09 PM (SkgyR)

26 Oh, Steck, thank you, that does look like something she may like. I bookmarked it for the next time I run into her here in the fever swamps.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 12:09 PM (8lmkt)

27 Bumper sticker seen on truck "Gun Control Can't Fix Stupid"

As I passed the truck, driver was a white male police officer in uniform.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2014 12:12 PM (BL00c)

28 Peaches, that S ampersand W is more comparable in size to the Ruger LCP which is teeny rather than the LC9.

Posted by: Steck at March 23, 2014 12:13 PM (5i94q)

29 26 Bumper sticker seen on truck "Gun Control Can't Fix Stupid" As I passed the truck, driver was a white male police officer in uniform. ---- Cops are mostly pro gun, usually rabidly so. Cop unions and cop beaurocrats are mostly anti-gun.

Posted by: Czar Peter at March 23, 2014 12:14 PM (SkgyR)

30 Re: 20 --

If you guys are in Mass., well first of all my condolences. Consider moving to a red or at least a purple state. Here in America it's fun to be a gun owner.

But second of all, the Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 9mm is available in a Mass-compliant version. It adds a stupid external safety which she can ignore. That's a good carry pistol, similar in profile to the LC9, and quite fairly priced too.

Posted by: P.M. at March 23, 2014 12:15 PM (MCVbD)

31 S ampersand W no longer sells in ca. due to microstamping rules

Posted by: MAx at March 23, 2014 12:15 PM (b7yum)

32 S ampersand W no longer sells in ca. due to microstamping rules

Posted by: MAx at March 23, 2014 04:15 PM (b7yum)

Oh, yeah, that's right, I forgot about that latest lovely development here in the land of the tiny brained. Sigh.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 12:21 PM (8lmkt)

33 MAx, they won't even sell existing models (which should be exempt from microstamping?) I haven't been following this much though I would think danged few pistols would be microstamping at this point.

Posted by: Steck at March 23, 2014 12:21 PM (5i94q)

34 Georgia had a Moms Demand member going absolutely bat shit insane this week. Wish I would have kept the link. Her outright lies, falsehoods and misunderstandings were entertaining.

Posted by: RWC at March 23, 2014 12:22 PM (QeH9j)

35 You can get the shield and LC9 in California all day long. Go to calguns.net and look up single shot exemption (SSE). You bring in the gun as a single shot pistol, register it, wait 10 days, and then convert it back to semi.

Posted by: Steve at March 23, 2014 12:23 PM (Fz/IH)

36 The Government should only allow organized criminals and the Government to have guns. Everything else is simply too dangerous. Too Undemocratic. Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 23, 2014 12:24 PM (9W+0f)

37 One other thing about the PS90/P90: Not only is the gun pricey, but you might have to take out a HELOC to pay for ammo. If I had a PS90 I would shoot the crap out of it.

5.7x28mm is fairly available online, starts around $0.50 / round. Plus, FNH apparently tells people not to try to reload the brass.

Posted by: P.M. at March 23, 2014 12:25 PM (MCVbD)

38 Girls, Mrs. E can shoot just about anything well. She carries a S n' W Airweight .38spec Silvertips with Crimson Trace laser. Pull the trigger 5 times and it shoots five times. Try one.

Posted by: Erowmero at March 23, 2014 12:26 PM (1gcFZ)

39 *bangs head into keyboard*

OT but military related. Do you know when the challenge coin thing has gotten out of hand? I do.

We talk about Bronies in the military. But there is a group called the Anime Military Association which says they try and do good things for the military. They are selling challenge coins.

http://www.animemilitaryassociation.org/About-Us.html

They are not even a registered charity.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 23, 2014 12:30 PM (BL00c)

A much better sniper rifle than the SVD, is just a Mosin-Nagant in the same chambering. Doesn't look all tacti-cool, but a well set up example is a magnitude of order more accurate.

Pretty much the same ballistic neighborhood as the .30-'06, .308 and 8mm Mauser.

In that a proper Mosin sniper rifle is built on the '91/30 platform, the vaunted 7.62x54r "fireball", as related to the shorter M-44, is absent the former.

One is simply never inadequately armed with a Mosin. At least, not in terms of range or energy delivered on target.

Jim

Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 23, 2014 12:30 PM (vvk2F)

41 Aarrgghhhh. The MA Ruger LC9 thing really, really pisses me off. My little brother has one, and I like it a lot. I was thinking of getting one knew it was on the MA "Approved Firearms Roster" ... and then I ran into this bullshit: http://www.goal.org/handgunsales.html "Guns sold by dealers must have mechanisms that preclude an average five year old from operating the handgun, such as requiring multiple motions or a ten pound trigger pull;" Ruger fixed the hard trigger pull on the LC9 at some point and in doing so made it illegal to buy in MA because Marsha Marsha Marsha Coakley says so. I hate this fucking commie hellhole.

Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2014 12:31 PM (vGQV1)

42 "One is simply never inadequately armed with a Mosin. At least, not in terms of range or energy delivered on target."

--------------------

Best bang-for-buck in American shooting history, IMO. A genuine piece of accurate, rugged, historically significant Nazi-killing goodness for a bill-and-a-half.

I got my first for under $100. A Finn capture. Imagine the stories that one could tell.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at March 23, 2014 12:34 PM (celt+)

43 You can get the shield and LC9 in California all day long. Go to calguns.net and look up single shot exemption (SSE). You bring in the gun as a single shot pistol, register it, wait 10 days, and then convert it back to semi.

Posted by: Steve at March 23, 2014 04:23 PM (Fz/IH)

That is super cool, Steve. Saving the info for our friend.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 12:35 PM (8lmkt)

44 CA de-certified handgun list http://tinyurl.com/l7knvm4 39 pages of dumb.

Posted by: RWC at March 23, 2014 12:38 PM (QeH9j)

45 I say gun bans and not "gun control" because many of the people I know who have and carry guns everywhere support background checks.>>

My problem with background checks is they ad cost and are completely useless in saving lives. Back in the early 60s people could buy guns with no background check and have them shipped through the mail to their house. Are we safer now? Most gun people support background checks because you look like a nut if you don't not because reality shows they are effective.

Posted by: The Hickster at March 23, 2014 12:40 PM (TI3xG)

46 Dragunov looks sexy I said. Russian, maybe not the best, but durable, I said. Spendy for what it is, I said. I'll wait until the price comes down, I said.
Aaaarrrgh! I say now.
I also bought Sony stock, so this might be a pattern.

Posted by: kindletot at March 23, 2014 12:40 PM (LRUgq)

47 woody! luv them gubs! got to get back to the hoops now, but love them pictures of gubs that I will never have. ... I'll be one of the zombies, dragging a leg as I come up your driveway ... aim for the head!! or for the Makers Mark, half-full, that I have clutched in my cold dead fingers.

Posted by: and irresolute at March 23, 2014 12:44 PM (RqHWH)

48 CA de-certified handgun list

I hate this fuckin' place.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 12:45 PM (8lmkt)

49 "OT but military related. Do you know when the challenge coin thing has gotten out of hand? I do."

I can not address any other branch of the military, but I can share my thoughts on the Navy aspect of it.

I think I was already a Chief (E-7) before I saw the very first Challenge coin related to the Navy.
Guy looked at me and explained that they were a tradition that went back many years in the Navy.

Told him to take his shiny new coin and go play with the Army guys.
Since then, it just seems to get worse and worse every year.

Posted by: VillageIdiot's Apprentice at March 23, 2014 12:45 PM (si68n)

50 40 Andy, that blows.

Honestly, you folks in lower New England have my sympathies and condolences, especially as you face the current siege on your rights (see also: CT, RI ...). It's a humble relief to live in a 2A friendly state, and I will say a prayer for y'all tonight.

Which reminds me. Good show, Georgia!

Posted by: P.M. at March 23, 2014 12:46 PM (MCVbD)

51 i'm here! i'm here! thanks for riding shotgun for me Peaches, and asking my question for me!...you're GREAT as always! Steck, love your new piece, but not compliant in my state. i asked you about it a few nights ago, how it was going, if you'd used it yet, basic curious questions since i too liked that model. Steve (34)...i had previously read up on the SSE but figured it would be impossible to first purchase a non-compliant and have it altered after the fact. Andy, thanks for your time and effort, love the sniper rifle!

Posted by: concrete girl at March 23, 2014 12:47 PM (YPOId)

52 Hey, concrete girl!!! I'm thinking that if I know people who can alter your piece, you probably do, too. I call them awesome folks.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 12:49 PM (8lmkt)

53 >> Most gun people support background checks because you look like a nut if you don't not because reality shows they are effective. It's pure security theater. No different than the TSA taking people's nail files & water bottles.

Posted by: Andy at March 23, 2014 12:52 PM (vGQV1)

54 Dickstick Maher says he wishes the dems would come out as a purely anti 2A party. Me too Bill, me too.

Posted by: Adam at March 23, 2014 12:54 PM (Aif/5)

55 concrete girl, I still haven't made it to the range with my new .380. The loaner I shot before buying my specific one worked well. Not the same as shooting something large / comfortable / full frame like a 1911, but duh it is tiny.

CA folks, isn't the jist of the new "microstamping" law that no "new model" of anything can be sold unless it does microstamping? (New Model can be a subtle change such as color, new grips, etc).

Posted by: Steck at March 23, 2014 12:55 PM (5i94q)

56 Way to go Idaho! BOISE, March 21, 2014 Â– On Thursday, Idaho Governor Butch Otter (R) signed a bill, which would effectively nullify future federal gun laws, by prohibiting state enforcement of any future federal act relating to personal firearms, a firearm accessories or ammunition. S1332 passed the house by a vote of 68-0 and the senate by a vote of 34-0. Alaska and Kansas have also passed similar laws. Erich Pratt, Director of Communications for Gun Owners of America, cheered the governorÂ’s action. Â“By signing this nullification bill into law, Idaho has joined an elite class of states that are telling the feds to Â‘get lostÂ’ Â— especially when it comes to unconstitutional gun control infringementsÂ”. http://tinyurl.com/n5mlv3j

Posted by: RWC at March 23, 2014 01:00 PM (QeH9j)

57 The gist of the new microstamping rules is to ban guns, just like the gist of the roster itself. It's just another tool of The Man, tryin' to keep a brother down.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 23, 2014 01:02 PM (qyfb5)

58 But second of all, the Smith Wesson MP Shield 9mm is available in a Mass-compliant version. It adds a stupid external safety which she can ignore. That's a good carry pistol, similar in profile to the LC9, and quite fairly priced too. Posted by: P.M. at March 23, 2014 04:15 PM (MCVbD) ...hmmm, thanks P.M., looks good. i checked the S/W website and it lists sales near me.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 23, 2014 01:03 PM (YPOId)

59 The gist of the new microstamping rules is to ban guns, just like the gist of the roster itself.

It's just another tool of The Man, tryin' to keep a brother down.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 23, 2014 05:02 PM (qyfb5)

Of course. I'm just trying to get a "pattern" as to what might still be currently OK vs already banned in their pea-brains.

Posted by: Steck at March 23, 2014 01:06 PM (5i94q)

60 41 "One is simply never inadequately armed with a Mosin. At least, not in terms of range or energy delivered on target." -------------------- Best bang-for-buck in American shooting history, IMO. A genuine piece of accurate, rugged, historically significant Nazi-killing goodness for a bill-and-a-half. I got my first for under $100. A Finn capture. Imagine the stories that one could tell. Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at March 23, 2014 04:34 PM Finn Mosins are the best. Most accurate versions, and almost guaranteed to have been used to slaughter both Nazis and Commies. Warms my black heart.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2014 01:08 PM (c2oll)

61 Of course. I'm just trying to get a "pattern" as to what might still be currently OK vs already banned in their pea-brains. Posted by: Steck at March 23, 2014 05:06 PM (5i94q) fnord (5i94q) Well for an actual list: http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/ A bunch are expiring this year that won't be renewed. Even as originally established it was basically "pay us to sell here," with the subtext of "this list is going to get shorter." It's grotesque and hopefully the lawsuits will continue to chip away at it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 23, 2014 01:12 PM (qyfb5)

62 Wow...looking at the dates on the "removed" list...i tragically did not make it "under the gun" so to say. (sad)

Posted by: concrete girl at March 23, 2014 01:16 PM (1YgVg)

63 concrete girl . . . any way you can slide over to Nevada and get what you want there and bring it in under the radar? there's gotta be a way for you to have what you want. all 'ettes should have what they want.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 01:20 PM (8lmkt)

64 Well for an actual list: http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

Ugh, that's horrid. Hope the lawsuits can get some traction.

concrete girl, anything remaining on this list of still-OK that you like?

Posted by: Steck at March 23, 2014 01:20 PM (5i94q)

65 41 I do so love my fireteam of 'Mosins', even the shorty Chinese clone! The spam cans of x.54R are still cheap (Ukraine repercussions notwithstanding)...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 23, 2014 01:26 PM (4DCSq)

66 Hey guys I arrived late. Didn't see a gun last week and figured these guys are slacking!

What's up? Nothing much new here except I got in a Croation Honor guard SKS with cool Croation coats of arms on either side of the stock. It's basically a YUGO SKS in pristine shape with these brass coats of arms on it. I think all they did with it was march up and down the square holding it with white gloves (like them Persian Mausers the Shah of Iran used to have) or fired blanks thru them at State funerals.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at March 23, 2014 01:26 PM (cCxiu)

67 well, fuck, there goes Wichita State.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 01:30 PM (8lmkt)

68 Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 23, 2014 05:26 PM (4DCSq) Love finding out when and where they came from.

Posted by: RWC at March 23, 2014 01:30 PM (QeH9j)

69 66 Yeah Peaches, Boss Lady's Billion Dollar Brackets have taken a beating the last couple of days.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 01:32 PM (dQs1o)

70 @ 64, Spun and Murky, It's already started with the 7.62 x 54R. Prices is going up. My go to guy called his distributor when this Ukraine stuff started happening. He said "DOn't worry, I have containers full!" Called him back a few days later and SOLD OUT! I think them distributors are gonna try to play this Ukraine situation woith respect to 7.6a x 54R like they did with the 22 ammo. Always scarce and prices high! Thank the Good Lord I have my crates already.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at March 23, 2014 01:35 PM (cCxiu)

71 Mosin Food

.19 per round

And a coupon to bring it lower.

http://tinyurl.com/mh7ym8f

Posted by: VillageIdiot's Apprentice at March 23, 2014 01:43 PM (si68n)

72 69 Dammit! I knew it would happen. I'm sure the cheap Tula and Wolf x39 and .223 will go the same way. My supply is good, but was trying make even better...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 23, 2014 01:47 PM (4DCSq)

73 Grade 'B' Mosins lookin' for a home
$109.00

http://tinyurl.com/pt3xd7n

Posted by: VillageIdiot's Apprentice at March 23, 2014 01:48 PM (si68n)

74 @70, that good pricing. Thanks! I will pass that along. Glad to see not everyone is gouging people. If I didn't have 10-12 crates already I would jump on that.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at March 23, 2014 01:48 PM (cCxiu)

75 Thanks VIA! That is a good price. I've been partial to sgammo of late.

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 23, 2014 01:50 PM (4DCSq)

76 Spun and Murky

Did you look at the link I put up?

Sportsman's Guide still has it in stock.
440 and 880 rd

I get about a shipment every two weeks from them.
Their shoppers club is about the best deal going.

Posted by: VillageIdiot's Apprentice at March 23, 2014 01:51 PM (si68n)

77 "Did you look at the link I put up?"

Never mind, just saw your response.

Posted by: VillageIdiot's Apprentice at March 23, 2014 01:52 PM (si68n)

78 going back and forth between the removed and compliant lists and the various websites, totes aggravating and eye-googly inducing! thanks peaches, steck, and other assorted morons...i'll continue my research and report back...ready! aim! fire!

Posted by: concrete girl at March 23, 2014 01:58 PM (YPOId)

79 Just got back from the range with the Grumpy Grandma. She sent her first box of ammo down range with her new little friend. I think I may have created a new habit.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 23, 2014 01:58 PM (60Vyp)

80 Cool, COJ!!! Glad you both had fun . . . especially the Grumpy Grandma!

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 02:01 PM (8lmkt)

81 Aaaand there was a Marlin 30AS on consignment at the range. I might try to beat them down on it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 23, 2014 02:07 PM (60Vyp)

82 That new Nosler .26 looked interesting. Until I saw the recoil. 26 pounds! I will stay with my 6.5 X 54 Manlicher.

Posted by: Pat at March 23, 2014 03:02 PM (KCg4m)

83 Peaches, I use Frog Lube because the chemical smells of everything else makes mr sick too. Stace, Hey, I've never shot clays or skeet before. I'm just up the road keep a girl in mind next time won't you 😊 I'm working hard on taking a fellow 'ette out in two weeks for her first time 😃

Posted by: lindafell at March 23, 2014 03:17 PM (PGO8C)

84 SVD: that think I wants, oh yes. There's one for sale on GB that's up to almost $14K.

Posted by: toby928© at March 23, 2014 03:55 PM (QupBk)

85 Grade 'B' Mosins lookin' for a home $109.00 $99.95 at AIM http://is.gd/4owqwx

Posted by: toby928© at March 23, 2014 04:03 PM (QupBk)

86 And for the current cost of an SVD, you can have 10 PSLs, or 3 Chinese Norinco NDM-86s.

Posted by: toby928© at March 23, 2014 04:07 PM (QupBk)

87 Georgia Carry which I am a member of pushed these state law changes (and a few more unlisted here that affect positively affect criminal defense laws) through despite a less than helpful Georgia Senate and Lt. Gov. Both the Senate and the Lt. Gov are Repubs by the way that claim they are strong 2A advocates. The Georgia House, however, is a great supporter of 2A. Also, we did effectively lower the cost of permits by not requiring new fingerprinting at renewals. Thus, the license for renewals went down substantially. Licenses will also now be issued to military members from 18-21 with the appropriate military training. BTW, Georgia allows both open and concealed carry but only with a permit. You may have a gun at home or in your car without one as long as you can legally carry.

GCO has been successfully pushing our state's archaic gun laws in a positive direction since 2006. NRA-ILA also came in late in the game to help. It has been a step by step process with the anti's threatening blood in the streets with each change. Needless to say, it hasn't happened.

Posted by: wg at March 23, 2014 04:21 PM (bo3+b)

88 Hey, for those of you interested in coming to my speech at the NRA Annual Meeting, it seems that registration is required. Just FYI. The link is here: http://www.nrafoundation.org/lawseminar.aspx Oh, and I just noticed for the first time, it's not free. Looks like it's $150 for the day. For what it's worth, none of that comes to me (other than my travel costs being covered). :-) Alternatively, just suggest a local pub and I'll be glad to meet up there afterwards and recount the highlights of my speech for no more than the cost of a Guinness (or three). :-) --Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

Posted by: Law of Self Defense at March 23, 2014 04:32 PM (8gaTv)

89 Some stores have the SSE guns already in stock, others will order them and convert for you. Most will even allow you to purchase out of state (gunbroker) and have it shipped to your FFL where they convert it. I did that for a shield and glock gen 4. Just watch out for the one handgun/30 day nonsense.

Posted by: Steve at March 23, 2014 10:50 PM (RtB9L)

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