March 27, 2014

House GOP Leadership Finds Getting A Majority Of Votes To Difficult So They Hold A Sham Voice Vote Instead
— DrewM

Remember when Republicans complained about Obama's lawlessness? Good times my friends. Good times.

The GOP wants to spend more money on the "Doc Fix", which would raise the amount paid to doctors for Medicare patients. The thing that needs to be "fixed" is that current law was put into place during the Clinton administration to save money and reduce the deficit. But cuts can never actually happen so when it looks like they will, they have to be "fixed".

Conservatives weren't thrilled with spending more money especially since the Democrats swore ObamaCare would save money by assuming the "doc fix" would never happen even though we all knew it would.

So today Boehner and Cantor found out they couldn't get their way so they simply held a sham vote to ram it through and prevent conservatives from calling them out on it.

House Republican leaders had planned to bring up the “doc fix” under a procedure requiring a two-thirds majority to pass, but after a series of closed-door meetings on Thursday morning, they determined they didn’t have the votes to meet that threshold and didn’t want to stay in session long enough to set up a simple majority vote.

So with just a few members on the House floor before a scheduled vote on an unrelated Ukraine measure, Republicans brought up the Medicare bill by voice vote. When no one in the chamber objected, the measure passed.

“Bullshit,” said a visibly annoyed Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.) as he emerged from the floor following the Ukraine vote. When Mulvaney was asked to comment about the upcoming GOP budget, he replied: “I can’t talk about the budget because I’m so pissed about the [doc fix].”

GOP leadership "didnÂ’t want to stay in session long enough to set up a simple majority vote". I'm sorry if doing their damn job is too inconvenient for them.

But hey...bi-partisanship!

Republican leadership worked with their Democratic counterparts to orchestrate the ploy. As members returned to the floor when the House came into session, they discovered that the bill had already passed. Nearly all of them were surprised.

No one had the chance to vote no, no one had a chance to vote yes.

Boehner likes to talk about the House of Representatives being "The People's House". Well today he and his leadership team broke in and trashed the place. Remember this the next time he or Cantor complain out how Obama is lawless.

But yay GOP, right?

Posted by: DrewM at 11:57 AM | Comments (289)
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1 Exciting and new

Posted by: Bruce at March 27, 2014 10:47 AM (igJW1)

2 I'll get Beth.

Posted by: fluffy at March 27, 2014 10:47 AM (Ua6T/)

3 First-ish ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2014 10:48 AM (gb8Rm)

4 Koch bros deleted my comment

Posted by: fluffy at March 27, 2014 10:48 AM (Ua6T/)

5 The Koch Brothers managed to vote yes.

Posted by: Beagle at March 27, 2014 10:48 AM (sOtz/)

6 Yet you attack people who want to start a third , errr second party.

Posted by: Dan at March 27, 2014 10:49 AM (COpZ4)

7 In before GOPe Apologist Theater.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at March 27, 2014 10:49 AM (5ikDv)

8 Yet another thread is atop this one.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, We Be Bossy at March 27, 2014 10:49 AM (kXoT0)

9 We are just arguing about tactics. We all want the same thing.

Posted by: traye at March 27, 2014 10:50 AM (5m4Yl)

10

Does anyone need any more proof that the GOPe are no different than the Dems ?

 

Anyone ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 27, 2014 10:50 AM (gb8Rm)

11 Wonderful bestompening!

Posted by: Clownf*cker at March 27, 2014 10:50 AM (kZVsz)

12 Proof yet again that the fix is in.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at March 27, 2014 10:51 AM (kZVsz)

13 Top. Men.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at March 27, 2014 10:51 AM (kqGWM)

14 Everyone go read the Dingy Harry post..... PLEASE

Posted by: John Boehner at March 27, 2014 10:53 AM (kFxpe)

15 Does this have anything to do with the leaked rebellion underfoot threatening Boehner's speakership and trashing Cantor? If so, they need to get cracking. Screw those two.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 27, 2014 10:54 AM (EowbP)

16 A parliamentary political trick worthy of Pelosi!

Way to go John, who says you can't grow in office?

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 10:54 AM (o3MSL)

17 fuck them all....

sideways, with a tanker's bar wrapped in 3 coils of concertina wire.

Let.
It.
Burn.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 27, 2014 10:55 AM (q+fqH)

18 Send Tar, Feathers and Rail.

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2014 10:57 AM (Sj7JH)

19 Stomp!

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 10:58 AM (GQ8sn)

20 What a penus. (when you spell it like that, it's funnier)

Posted by: maloderous at March 27, 2014 10:59 AM (p2s4o)

21 Penass is funnier yet.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at March 27, 2014 11:01 AM (l2max)

22
Yet another thread is atop this one.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil




And One more Thread to bring them all,
and in the darkness bind them.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 11:01 AM (kdS6q)

23 We go from no new thread for hours to two. Classic HQ.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 27, 2014 11:02 AM (Os+6p)

24 I am shocked, shocked I tell you to discover misuse of public funds by members of Congress!

Posted by: Capt Renaud at March 27, 2014 11:04 AM (o3MSL)

25
We go from no new thread for hours to two. Classic HQ.
Posted by: DangerGirl




Rather like how women living together have their cycles synchronize.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 11:05 AM (kdS6q)

26
"House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid personally negotiated the one-year patch to prevent a 24 percent cut in physician pay on April 1."



And their the most powerful Republican in Washington bought 10 boxes of Girl Scout cookies from Reid's granddaughter....

 

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 11:08 AM (kdS6q)

27 Shut up!

Posted by: Your Betters [/i] at March 27, 2014 11:09 AM (O7Q1u)

28 Tell me again how we have a representative democracy.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 27, 2014 11:11 AM (IV4od)

29 Two  simultaneous posts.  Willow will be lost.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2014 11:14 AM (eoeps)

30 25 We go from no new thread for hours to two. Classic HQ. Posted by: DangerGirl ------------------- Rather like how women living together have their cycles synchronize. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 03:05 PM (kdS6q --------------------------------------- Bawahhhhhh

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 27, 2014 11:15 AM (HVff2)

31 QE Infinity and beyond!

Posted by: Janet "Buzz" Yellen at March 27, 2014 11:16 AM (sOtz/)

32 Kind of like RINO Mark Kirk being unwilling to do anything for the GOP senatorial nominee in Illinois because of his relationship with Dick Durbin. Again, conservatives are supposed to eat whatever shit is shoveled into them by establishment R's but the converse is never true.

Posted by: ejo at March 27, 2014 11:16 AM (GXvSO)

33 (when you spell it like that, it's funnier)

Huh.  It IS.

Posted by: HR at March 27, 2014 11:17 AM (ZKzrr)

34 Cruz is still a dick.

Posted by: Hollowhead at March 27, 2014 11:20 AM (YmPwQ)

35 These fuckers just don't get it. We are in a death match with evil and you just cannot make deals with the devil. The Docs want a Doc fix? Fine, repeal ObamaCare.

Posted by: MTF at March 27, 2014 11:21 AM (bZKG0)

36 HR 3204 - the Drug Quality and Security Act regulating Compounding Pharmacies and initiating pharmaceutical "track and trace" legislation. Also passed by Voice Vote because they didn't have enough votes. For those ignorant of the way Congress works: 1) attach legislation everyone wants to something that wouldn't be passed otherwise 2) Hold a simple Voice Vote majority to pass it. EVERY SINGLE GOP Congressman I spoke with told me to my face that they "had my back" when it came to the FDA bullying their way into Compounding Pharmacy. As you can see, they clearly LIED. And what's worse, having a Voice Vote makes it nearly impossible to tell who supported legislation and who didn't. This is despicable politics and in no way represents Boehner's bs about "the People's House".

Posted by: Pelosi Schmelosi at March 27, 2014 11:23 AM (jHf6U)

37 I continue to respectfully chew and swallow whatever cow-offal is represented to me as "chocolate pudding" by my smarter, superior representatives in the Grand Old Party.

Also, I blame the shutdown.

Posted by: Jack's Flaw [/i] [/b] at March 27, 2014 11:26 AM (5ikDv)

38 All I can say is the cuts to docs will never happen. They have a stronger lobby than the defense industry. All they have to do is to post a sign in their lobby saying they wont be taking Medicare patients if this goes through. Seniors vote. The bright side to this bit of lawlessness is that it takes another issue off of the table for R's to hang themselves with. If you think the shutdown didnt look good. Imagine the interviews with little old ladies saying their doctors would be turning them away. On to November

Posted by: Ronan at March 27, 2014 11:28 AM (bAXJL)

39 And we're back ...

Posted by: this thread at March 27, 2014 12:00 PM (fOLwM)

40 What time was the voice vote called? Because, c'mon, at least Tip used to pull this shit at like 11:22 p.m.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 27, 2014 12:00 PM (mf5HN)

41 I hate these two. They have to go. I hate them as much as I hate the Democrats.

Posted by: Harry's Dangling Reed at March 27, 2014 12:02 PM (o6g4X)

42 I read this post earlier I think...

Posted by: prescient11 at March 27, 2014 12:02 PM (tVTLU)

43 How long before the excuse makers show up to tell Drew why he's wrong and this is clearly good.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 27, 2014 12:02 PM (am14A)

44 "All I can say is the cuts to docs will never happen. They have a stronger lobby than the defense industry."

Actually the majority of docs were against this , they want a permanent resolution and not a yearly band-aid.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 27, 2014 12:03 PM (IV4od)

45 Take that socons!

Posted by: Moo Moo at March 27, 2014 12:03 PM (oFCZn)

46 But you have to hold your nose and vote for people like Boehnor and Cantor to keep them in the majority so things like this won't happen! Wait, what?!?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 27, 2014 12:03 PM (qyfb5)

47 Somehow we need to get DrewM on Boner's staff and get this damn thing turned around.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 27, 2014 12:04 PM (HVff2)

48 The wall will not respect party affiliation upon impact.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 27, 2014 12:05 PM (659DL)

49
♪ You've got to know when to fold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to fold, hooray!
Foldin' is fun

Don't need to think 'bout winnin'
When you're foldin' at the table
There'll be more foldin' in the future
Before I'm done ♫

Posted by: Kenny Boehners at March 27, 2014 12:05 PM (fOLwM)

50 ô You've got to know when to fold 'em Know when to fold 'em Know when to fold, hooray! Foldin' is fun Don't need to think 'bout winnin' When you're foldin' at the table There'll be more foldin' in the future Before I'm done ♫ - The rats are abandoning the sinking ship, maybe singing that song. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, the former White House chief of staff, told CNBC on Thursday he gave President Barack Obama a "contrary opinion" on the early stages of the Affordable Care Act, which debuted with a glitch-ridden website and troubled exchanges.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2014 12:07 PM (XUKZU)

51 But, but... Republicans are favored to take control of both houses in November! ... sigh... Wake me when the burning times start.

Posted by: Damiano at March 27, 2014 12:07 PM (j0wOO)

52 45 Take that socons! Posted by: Moo Moo at March 27, 2014 04:03 PM (oFCZn) WTF does this vote have to do with Socons? The bill was about the Doc Fix..... Oh I know you are young and smart with all of your degrees and your fancy car. But you are the biggest fuck stick here.

Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 27, 2014 12:07 PM (HVff2)

53 *choke*  I don't think I can comment on this until Hollowpoint gives  his glowing approval  of the GOP leadership.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 12:07 PM (QhlpW)

54 renoB has gotta go.

Posted by: maddogg at March 27, 2014 12:08 PM (xWW96)

55 52 45 Take that socons! Posted by: Moo Moo at March 27, 2014 04:03 PM (oFCZn) WTF does this vote have to do with Socons? The bill was about the Doc Fix..... Oh I know you are young and smart with all of your degrees and your fancy car. But you are the biggest fuck stick here. Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 27, 2014 04:07 PM (HVff2) Sock puppet of the cowfucker not the actual cowfucker

Posted by: Buzzion at March 27, 2014 12:08 PM (z/Ubi)

56

You know, they ought to put ice cream truck bells on these threads, so we  can know when they're coming back around....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 12:08 PM (kdS6q)

57 To Infinity and beyond! - Is that Boner John's slogan for raising the debt ceiling?

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2014 12:08 PM (XUKZU)

58 WTF does this vote have to do with Socons? The bill was about the Doc Fix..... Oh I know you are young and smart with all of your degrees and your fancy car. But you are the biggest fuck stick here. Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 27, 2014 04:07 PM (HVff2) It's a sock.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 27, 2014 12:08 PM (mf5HN)

59 This bill also stalls the change in a medical billing coding of diagonsis that should have happened in Oct 1 this year. Billions have been spent training and preparing for this. Someone inserted 7 lines delaying it another year...cost to private insurance, hospitals, dr.s, schools and employees who must prepare-and we wonder why healthcare is so expensive.

Posted by: Dick at March 27, 2014 12:09 PM (9ng2u)

60 The bill was about the Doc Fix..... - Which was needed because of the last Doc Fix.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2014 12:09 PM (XUKZU)

61 It doesn't matter.. If you socons weren't so obsessed with rape and self-promotion, Boehner would be able to stop doing this.

Posted by: Hollowhead at March 27, 2014 12:09 PM (YmPwQ)

62 You know, they ought to put ice cream truck bells on these threads, so we can know when they're coming back around.... Ding, ding, ding.... Bring out yer dead.....

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 12:09 PM (ix+5k)

63 I'm    sure looking forward to GOP control.  We won't even have to have    votes anymore to give the     democrats what they want.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2014 12:10 PM (eoeps)

64 I'm so mad I forgot to type my name!

Posted by: Dick "I'm a Dick" Durbin at March 27, 2014 12:10 PM (9ng2u)

65 Sock puppet of the cowfucker not the actual cowfucker Posted by: Buzzion -------------- Hmm. Rule violation..., even if it violates the cud-chewer, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2014 12:11 PM (aDwsi)

66 But yay GOP, right? You down wit G-O-P? Oh no, not me Who's down wit G-O-P? None of my ho-mies.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 27, 2014 12:11 PM (7ObY1)

67 We are just arguing about tactics. We all want the same thing. - For Boner John to be king.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2014 12:11 PM (XUKZU)

68 so .

i feel no one is representing the people , yet i am to support those who are not representing the people

because?
it is better then the other?
tell me how?
because i'm feeling rather depressed and might be missing the chess playing?

Posted by: willow at March 27, 2014 12:11 PM (nqBYe)

69 Yet another famous SC house profanity moment!


Posted by: looking closely at March 27, 2014 12:11 PM (PwGfd)

70 You ever see that classic bad guy move where they suddenly pull a gun on their own people and pull the trigger, only to hear it go *click*.  And the bad guy smiles in an off-kilter way and wanders off.  It's supposed to instill in the audience that the bad guy really is crazy and has no loyalty to his people and that he rules by fear.

Here's the problem with that.  Guys who do that in real life disappear. 

Soo ... now that the GOP got royally penetrated by Boehner and Cantor, are the GOP going to attach some artificial nuts to their scrotes and rise up against this crep?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 12:12 PM (WhJf8)

71 Drew is getting upset!!!

Posted by: JJ Stone at March 27, 2014 12:12 PM (4oSMi)

72 Doc Ock > Doc Fix

Posted by: Citizen X at March 27, 2014 12:12 PM (7ObY1)

73 This is a lot of inside baseball and stuff I don't know. 1. How can you vote on something without actually recording votes? 2. Is only one objection needed? If so, lesson learned. You must always keep someone in the chamber to object if necessary.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 12:12 PM (gmeXX)

74

61 -

 

I gotta get here sooner.  All the really smart comments get said  already. 

Posted by: jwoost at March 27, 2014 12:13 PM (TOk1P)

75 Suckers of cock.

Posted by: toby928© at March 27, 2014 12:13 PM (QupBk)

76 65 Sock puppet of the cowfucker not the actual cowfucker Posted by: Buzzion -------------- Hmm. Rule violation..., even if it violates the cud-chewer, no? Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2014 04:11 PM (aDwsi) He didn't use the name that the cowfucker uses so no.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 27, 2014 12:13 PM (z/Ubi)

77 I hate these two. They have to go. I hate them as much as I hate the Democrats. Posted by: Harry's Dangling Reed at March 27, 2014 04:02 PM (o6g4X) a distinction without a major difference. and, yes.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 27, 2014 12:13 PM (XvrTA)

78 Why am I not surprised that DrewM is misrepresenting the circumstances here? 1. It wasn't a question of not wanting to stay in session long longer. It was due to the fact that the current "doc fix" was set to expire April 1st, and under normal rules they couldn't passed it on a simple majority vote before then. 2. Likewise, objections to the current doc fix vote weren't about "spending more money". Opponents acknowledged they didn't want to see the reduced payments enacted.

Posted by: Sharron Angle at March 27, 2014 12:13 PM (SY2Kh)

79 well i'm glad to know the solution to all of our ills is to fix a healthcare we do not want in any way.

fix what helps progressives and govt to control my families  life and limit money in the bank acct by design.

Posted by: willow at March 27, 2014 12:14 PM (nqBYe)

80 sock off

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 27, 2014 12:14 PM (SY2Kh)

81

Posted by: WalrusRex

 

From the other thread...in lieu of a retrial have your 20 years of this ever suggested forming a Secret Walrus Ball Kicking Squad to administer alternative justice?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 27, 2014 12:14 PM (JtwS4)

82 I gotta get here sooner. All the really smart comments get said already. You know, until you said that I thought it was the real Hollowpoint that posted it. It sounded so authentic.

Posted by: Citizen X at March 27, 2014 12:14 PM (7ObY1)

83

73 -

 

Always keep someone in the chamber... that's the same reason it's impossible to pee on Mao's tomb. 

Posted by: jwoost at March 27, 2014 12:14 PM (TOk1P)

84 Why am I not surprised that DrewM is misrepresenting the circumstances here? ---- I'm confused as to what really happened here. Was this an actual vote or was this a procedural type vote?

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 12:15 PM (gmeXX)

85

Soo ... now that the GOP got royally penetrated by Boehner and Cantor, are the GOP going to attach some artificial nuts to their scrotes and rise up against this crep?

 

--

 

Last    rumor     I heard, real conservatives in the house are gathering votes       for a new speaker.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2014 12:15 PM (eoeps)

86 #44
I don't know where this idea that medical reimbursements never get cut has taken hold.  That's a complete fiction.

EG, medicare reimbursement for anatomic pathology lab services was cut 50% last year.  This wasn't specifically related to the "doc fix", but it did knock a number of private path labs out of business, leaving a bunch of pathologists and techs out of work and driving a big wave of lab consolidation.  

Posted by: looking closely at March 27, 2014 12:15 PM (PwGfd)

87

Can't be accurate! GOP is the source of everything good!

 

/sarc

Posted by: Bigby's Grabby Hands at March 27, 2014 12:15 PM (3ZtZW)

88 Fuck the GOP.  We really do need a third Party.  Until then I am joining the LIB crew.  No more standing in a line to vote for dicks like McShitty.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 12:15 PM (T2V/1)

89

Republicans brought up the Medicare bill by voice vote. When no one in the chamber objected, the measure passed.

.

Nobody yelled out "F%ck you!!!"?

Posted by: wth at March 27, 2014 12:16 PM (wAQA5)

90 You know, they ought to put ice cream truck bells on these threads, so we can know when they're coming back around.... ------------------- About that white truck. It may not be an ice cream truck. Sometimes it is manned by a couple of brawny guys in white uniforms, carrying a net. To be evasive about it, in our neighborhood it was referred to as "The Cookie Truck".

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2014 12:16 PM (aDwsi)

91 78 Why am I not surprised that DrewM is misrepresenting the circumstances here?

Posted by: Sharron Angle

80 sock off

Posted by: Hollowpoint

Don't bother.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 27, 2014 12:16 PM (Uabwh)

92 From the other thread...in lieu of a retrial have your 20 years of this ever suggested forming a Secret Walrus Ball Kicking Squad to administer alternative justice? - It's very tempting but If I lose a trial, I usually get another chance. Double jeopardy still applies but it doesn't apply to the next crime these guys commit and, as some smart Greek said 2000 years ago, character is destiny.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2014 12:16 PM (XUKZU)

93 Nobody yelled out "F%ck you!!!"?

Easier to pronounce in the original Klingon.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 12:17 PM (WhJf8)

94 Did they find a pot of gold buried in the desert to pay for this?

Posted by: Fritz at March 27, 2014 12:17 PM (oJUxt)

95 88-no, no, can't do that. Are you demanding ideological purity. signed: Mark "I won't work for GOP candidate because I love Dick Durbin" Kirk

Posted by: ejo at March 27, 2014 12:17 PM (GXvSO)

96 Hell no
GOP
many  of you have got to go.


might need work

Posted by: willow at March 27, 2014 12:19 PM (nqBYe)

97 Sometimes it is manned by a couple of brawny guys in white uniforms, carrying a net.

Are they cute?  Asking for a friend.

Posted by: HR at March 27, 2014 12:20 PM (ZKzrr)

98

Russians - yes, them - say we're a sham democracy, corrupt to the core, and have no valid claim to sovereignty anymore.

 

I think the last is overstated, but "it takes one to know one" and they're right.

Posted by: Bigby's Grabby Hands at March 27, 2014 12:20 PM (3ZtZW)

99 O/T: I'm all politically-outraged-out for the day. Instead, I'm making a break for the warm waters of the Tropic of Offtopic to give you the latest word in pure pseudoscientific quackery: The vibrator that (allegedly) makes you smart. http://tinyurl.com/pz3abn2

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 27, 2014 12:20 PM (naUcP)

100 "the Democrats swore ObamaCare would save money by assuming the 'doc fix' would never happen even though we all knew it would."

Yeah, and you know who else OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED to the American public that Obamacare would be a "net deficit reducer" based on that same completely bullshit premise?

The Congressional Budget Office.

Of course, the media were all over that story. They couldn't wait to cover it. Snort.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 12:21 PM (noWW6)

101 Am I to understand that the House can have a vote by calling a voice vote, and if no one objects, then it is considered to have passed unanimously?

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 12:21 PM (gmeXX)

102

>>>Don't bother.

 

no kidding

Posted by: Bigby's Grabby Hands at March 27, 2014 12:21 PM (3ZtZW)

103 Bullshit on nobody in the chamber objecting, the Democrats on the floor objected. The nays were louder then the ayes, but the guy with the gavel declared the ayes have it and moved on.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 27, 2014 12:21 PM (IV4od)

104 Decree you eff'ng ingrates. D.E.C.R.E.E.

Posted by: The GOP, The Party Of Hitler at March 27, 2014 12:21 PM (Cs2tJ)

105 Russians - yes, them - say we're a sham democracy, corrupt to the core, and have no valid claim to sovereignty anymore.

I think the last is overstated, but "it takes one to know one" and they're right.

Posted by: Bigby's Grabby Hands at March 27, 2014 04:20 PM (3ZtZW)


ok so how many Russians live in DC.

asking for a friend (borrowing HR thing)

Posted by: willow at March 27, 2014 12:21 PM (nqBYe)

106 To Infinity and beyond! - Is that Boner John's slogan for raising the debt ceiling? Holy crap you morons might be on to something here. "Infinity Dollar Coin"

Posted by: eleven at March 27, 2014 12:22 PM (fsLdt)

107
Hmm. Rule violation..., even if it violates the cud-chewer, no?
Posted by: Mike Hammer

He didn't use the name that the cowfucker uses so no.
Posted by: Buzzion




*Looks desperately in Robert's Rules of Sh!tposting*

"err -- Madam President, I call for the orders of the day."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 12:22 PM (kdS6q)

108 Decree you eff'ng ingrates. D.E.C.R.E.E.

Posted by: The GOP, The Party Of Hitler at March 27, 2014 12:22 PM (Cs2tJ)

109 EG, medicare reimbursement for anatomic pathology lab services was cut 50% last year. This wasn't specifically related to the "doc fix", but it did knock a number of private path labs out of business, leaving a bunch of pathologists and techs out of work and driving a big wave of lab consolidation.

Posted by: looking closely at March 27, 2014 04:15 PM (PwGfd)

 

 

--------------------------------------------

 

 

Yup.  And the pathology cuts ain't over.  More labs will be going out of business.  Docs will just be looking at patients now and saying,

 

"Well,  considering what you've told me, we'll just say you have cancer".

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 12:22 PM (QhlpW)

110 Wow someone bought into my Moo Moo sock? I wasn't even really trying either.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 27, 2014 12:23 PM (oFCZn)

111 Some of the seeds landed in Washington, D.C., and before they could grow they were choked by weeds. Others landed in Nevada wbere they withered and died from lack of water. But some fell on a highway project where they flourished and gave a bountiful harvest.

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 27, 2014 12:23 PM (8MjqI)

112 "Character is destiny" ---------------------------- So true..., so true.

Posted by: Manacled Mayor(D) of Charlotte at March 27, 2014 12:23 PM (aDwsi)

113


>>>"Well, considering what you've told me, we'll just say you have cancer".

 

Dr. Heimlich: "So did that bear hug I gave you help? No? OK, get a second opinion, I'm done"

Posted by: Bigby's Grabby Hands at March 27, 2014 12:25 PM (3ZtZW)

114 Wow someone bought into my Moo Moo sock? I wasn't even really trying either. Another case of humans failing the Turing test? Or just a really crappy trollposter? You make the call...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at March 27, 2014 12:25 PM (naUcP)

115

*Looks desperately in Robert's Rules of Sh!tposting*

"err -- Madam President, I call for the orders of the day."

 

"In any case of ambiguity concerning the rules, both the offened party and the alleged offending party must produce boobs."

Posted by: AoSHQ Style Guide Compliance Division at March 27, 2014 12:26 PM (JtwS4)

116 I'm sorry, what? The house can just pass shit willy nilly with a handful of idiots on the floor? So any and all wailing about not having the votes on an issue is complete bullshit then? Just wanted to make sure.

Posted by: Lauren at March 27, 2014 12:27 PM (hFL/3)

117 It looks like the National Science Foundation has been handing out grants for some unorthodox research projects, according to House Republicans.

This includes $700,000 in funding for a climate change musical.

Posted by: William Shakespeare at March 27, 2014 12:27 PM (e8kgV)

118 "Well, considering what you've told me, we'll just say you have cancer". Roll some bone & peer at chicken guts.....

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 12:27 PM (ix+5k)

119 Bullshit on nobody in the chamber objecting, the Democrats on the floor objected. The nays were louder then the ayes, but the guy with the gavel declared the ayes have it and moved on. Posted by: lowandslow ------------------ Same thing happened to me at the Democratic National Convention..

Posted by: Acknowledgemnt of God at March 27, 2014 12:28 PM (aDwsi)

120 Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 04:21 PM (gmeXX)

It is much more efficient to move legislation through like this than to have messy floor debates discussions where conservatives might get a few minutes of air time and disturb our collegial atmosphere!


Ever wonder how much Boehner is worth?

Posted by: Juan Boner at March 27, 2014 12:28 PM (o3MSL)

121 I'm also glad that they're working with the democrats to conspire against us. That's just great.

Posted by: Lauren at March 27, 2014 12:28 PM (hFL/3)

122 This includes $700,000 in funding for a climate change musical.

Some days I wonder why we're not all in on these scams.

Posted by: HR at March 27, 2014 12:28 PM (ZKzrr)

123

>>"Republican leadership worked with their Democratic counterparts to orchestrate the ploy."

 

That's what it's all about, baby. And it ain't changing. No GOP Senate majority is going to change a thing. Let it burn.

Posted by: rrpjr at March 27, 2014 12:29 PM (s/yC1)

124 "114 I'm sorry, what? The house can just pass shit willy nilly with a handful of idiots on the floor?"

No, they actually ignored the idiots on the floor and deemed it passed. Our side did this.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 27, 2014 12:29 PM (IV4od)

125 This includes $700,000 in funding for a climate change musical. Posted by: William ------------------- Did they fund the $1.5 Million "Why are lesbians fat?" grant?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2014 12:30 PM (aDwsi)

126 "House Speaker John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, reported a net worth ranging from about $2 million to $6 million in 2010, much of it in blue-chip stocks. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., reported a net worth of at least $3.35 million."

Posted by: The Googles[/b] at March 27, 2014 12:30 PM (JtwS4)

127 Do not, repeat not, look behind the curtain!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 12:30 PM (o3MSL)

128 Ahoy, mateys! Welcome to the Bone 'n' Pier fritter shack and beach disco!

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 12:30 PM (ZshNr)

129 This includes $700,000 in funding for a climate change musical. Some days I wonder why we're not all in on these scams. NOT being able to keep a straight face would be a dead give away......

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 12:30 PM (ix+5k)

130

It looks like the National Science Foundation has been handing out grants for some unorthodox research projects, according to House Republicans.

This includes $700,000 in funding for a climate change musical.

 

 

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This sounds promising.  Sort  of  a "Sharknado" of musicals.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 12:30 PM (QhlpW)

131 Did they fund the $1.5 Million "Why are lesbians fat?" grant?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2014 04:30 PM (aDwsi)

 

It's because they eat a lot of tacos.  Now hand over my $1.5 million!

Posted by: Insomniac at March 27, 2014 12:31 PM (DrWcr)

132 This gives me full confidence that if I vote and get the Republican party back in charge of the Senate, enabling us to hold both chambers in Congress, they will do everything in their power to roll back all of this big-government legislation.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 27, 2014 12:31 PM (GrtrJ)

133 Some days I wonder why we're not all in on these scams. Scruples. I've come to hate my scruples.

Posted by: eleven at March 27, 2014 12:31 PM (fsLdt)

134 I don't care. I won't vote for them anyway. Why-oh-why do we have such Little People in big roles?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 27, 2014 12:32 PM (R5UOB)

135 Some days I wonder why we're not all in on these scams. -------------------- An honest man's conscience is his pillow.

Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at March 27, 2014 12:32 PM (aDwsi)

136 Posted on the dead thread BREAKING NEWS Guns.... break Middle School Children.... break Colorado...... break http://tinyurl.com/ncvxpzf PUEBLO COUNTY, Colo. – KRDO is reporting that a group of middle school students from Craver Middle School had the chance to see firsthand what it’s like to fire a gun while learning about gun safety . “I’m very excited, today we’re going to come out here on the gun range and shoot a little bit. The past week we’ve learned about the Revolutionary War,” said Craver Middle School student Jonah Statezny. This was the first time that the national non-profit organization project Appleseed, an activity of The Revolutionary War Veterans Association, had taking its gun training to the classroom. “We’ve never been allowed to bring actual real firearms into a school. Until this week. This is a very big deal. We had them touching fire arms, holding them and learning about how to handle them safely,” said Elizabeth Blackwood, a representative from Appleseed. Way to go Appleseed!

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 12:32 PM (fWAjv)

137 131 Some days I wonder why we're not all in on these scams.


Scruples. I've come to hate my scruples.

Posted by: eleven at March 27, 2014 04:31 PM (fsLdt)

 

Having a conscience can be a real bitch sometimes.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 27, 2014 12:32 PM (DrWcr)

138 Danger Girl......that is growing ever more apparent.

Posted by: eleven at March 27, 2014 12:32 PM (fsLdt)

140 If Vic is still around, isn't Mulvaney your rep? Didn't like the vote procedure but met with a bunch of illegals? What's his deal?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 12:33 PM (/djtm)

141 ** Thirsty for $$$ *** Where do I hook up to that NSF grant machine?

Posted by: The X-Files Suck-u-bus at March 27, 2014 12:34 PM (R5UOB)

142 I'm confused about GOP leaderships' intentions. They've been mostly wrong. Why would I think Boehner and Cantor have it right now?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 27, 2014 12:34 PM (A98Xu)

143 "119 I'm also glad that they're working with the democrats to conspire against us. That's just great."

The thing is, there are a ton of Democrats getting pressure from the AMA to fix this shit along with the actual conservatives in the House that want to stop kicking these Medicare costs down the road. These are the people that were going to vote no, but Boehner and Reid concocted this bullshit so they didn't have to do anything.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 27, 2014 12:34 PM (IV4od)

144 Some days I wonder why we're not all in on these scams. Posted by: HR at March 27, 2014 04:28 PM (ZKzrr) fnord (ZKzrr) I have not yet abandoned my principles, but I do resent them. Awfully unhealthy place to be. We don't have principles because they reward us, but getting fucking nothing for having them and watching crooks dance away with all the prizes is tiring.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 27, 2014 12:35 PM (qyfb5)

145 Posted by: DangerGirl at March 27, 2014 04:31 PM (GrtrJ) Reading my mind. What a bunch of tools.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 27, 2014 12:35 PM (A98Xu)

146 This includes $700,000 in funding for a climate change musical.

**


Fat Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.

**

Starring Al Gore.


Posted by: dananjcon at March 27, 2014 12:36 PM (NpXoL)

147

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 04:32 PM (fWAjv)

 

 

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This is actually pretty good news.  I'm assuming, of course, that this school isn't in Boulder.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 12:36 PM (QhlpW)

148

We can get in on these scams. All we need to do is form an interest group and PAC.

 

We've got enough people here to form an AOSHQ PAC, maybe even bundle whole TENS of dollars for various candidates. Then its Kickback City, Jack!

Posted by: Bigby's Grabby Hands at March 27, 2014 12:36 PM (3ZtZW)

149 re: 134 I am outraged! You have pierced the veil. GASP

Posted by: Barbara Boxer-Briefs at March 27, 2014 12:36 PM (R5UOB)

150 Face it folks, we are living in an "Idiocracy" when we are not living in a "Kleptocracy." Burn it down.

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 27, 2014 12:36 PM (bb5+k)

151 Awww......the mortician in Phantasm has a Sad......


CNN reported:

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says his granddaughter Ryan Elisabeth Reid has received “harassing phone calls” and “negative attention on the internet” since word surfaced that ReidÂ’s campaign paid thousands of dollars last year for items from a jewelry store she owns that were given to supporters as gifts.

    “As a grandparent, I say enough is enough,” Reid said in a statement.

    The unusual emotional plea came just as the amount of money Reid will repay his campaign doubled to more than $31,000 after additional payments to the jewelry company were found in Federal Election Commission filings from 2012.

Posted by: B at March 27, 2014 12:37 PM (VC56G)

152 Did they find a pot of gold buried in the desert to pay for this? It's not gold buried out there.

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 27, 2014 12:38 PM (QupBk)

153 Fucking Groundhog Day.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 27, 2014 12:38 PM (XaO9F)

154 This is actually pretty good news. I'm assuming, of course, that this school isn't in Boulder. Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 04:36 PM (QhlpW) I think it's great news.

Posted by: RWC at March 27, 2014 12:38 PM (fWAjv)

155 We can get in on these scams. All we need to do is form an interest group and PAC. ----------------- Noooo. The ticket is a not-for-profit research foundation. The write grant applications for studies of..., oh, I don't know..., "The Role of Elevated CO2 Levels in Apple Bruising"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2014 12:39 PM (aDwsi)

156 The doc fix is another one of those budgetary ploys that cause me never to take a congressional budget at it's word. All cuts will always be eliminated.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at March 27, 2014 12:39 PM (HDwDg)

157

Harry Reid told you to shut up.  His lawbreaking    is none of your business, and what he does with your tax dollars is none of your business.

 

Also, John Boehner told you to shut up.  If he doesn't have the votes, he will pass legislation while the chamber is vacant.  If you   question the legality of passing legislation without votes, shut up.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2014 12:39 PM (eoeps)

158 This is a press conference! The last thing I want to do is start answering a bunch of questions!

Posted by: Honorable Harry Screed at March 27, 2014 12:39 PM (R5UOB)

159

“As a grandparent, I say enough is enough,” Reid said in a statement.

 

FU Harry Reid.  You brought her into this.  Suck it up buttercup.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2014 12:39 PM (Z1SI2)

160 How do we know this wasn't completely orchestrated with the conservatives in the know who maybe didn't want to make a vote one way or the other on this? They have plausible deniability, but they were spared from making a difficult vote.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 12:39 PM (gmeXX)

161

BTW, this:

>>>Remember when Republicans complained about Obama's lawlessness? Good times my friends. Good times.

 

amounts to Tu Quoque. Not an argument, despite my agreement that it is Teh Suck.

Posted by: Bigby's Grabby Hands at March 27, 2014 12:39 PM (3ZtZW)

162 So in other news of the latest sleazy Beltway insider pigfuckery:

Obama is slashing Army and Navy budgets in order to free up more cash for the International Monetary Fund to do sooper important things.

Um, like what? Name the latest IMF action.

Bailing out Russian banks and hedge fund speculators who bet on Ukrainian bonds!

http://preview.tinyurl.com/om9sl6e

Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 12:40 PM (noWW6)

163 Hmmm..... THIS..... And then off to a weekend getaway paid for by Dem Supporters, who want to help them crush TEA party types... makes ya go.... hmmmmmm....

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 12:40 PM (84gbM)

164

From the sidebar: Freddy Alborta photographed the corpse of Che Guevara, the tireless libertarian soldier who was assassinated on October 10, 1967.

 

 

FFS.  We get accused of being nothing but potheads all the time, now this guilt by association?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 27, 2014 12:40 PM (JtwS4)

165 The hell with impeaching the POS in the white house, how about impeaching Boehner?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2014 12:40 PM (eoeps)

166 “As a grandparent, I say enough is enough,” Reid said in a statement. Posted by: B at March 27, 2014 04:37 PM (VC56G) fnord (VC56G) Romney's family wants to have a word with you and yours, Hairy. The Kochs are in line behind them. Actually, quite a long line.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 27, 2014 12:41 PM (qyfb5)

167

"The Role of Elevated CO2 Levels in Apple Bruising"

 

Where Apple is a Euphemism and CO2 levels refer to heavy breathing

Posted by: Bigby's Grabby Hands at March 27, 2014 12:41 PM (3ZtZW)

168 Grampa says I should not speak about this or his pedarist friends will pay me another visit.

Posted by: Liz Reid at March 27, 2014 12:41 PM (R5UOB)

169 B @ 192 And these findings were not found when looking at 2013. Ah. The glacial pace of Fed investigations. If I didn't dig deeper immediately after finding wrong doing at my job, I'd be in the soup line. Or is that on the FSA gravy train.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 12:41 PM (/djtm)

170 I see the White House just announced that they have topped their Obamacare goal of 6 million enrolled. Again proving there is no lie to big for these people to tell.

Posted by: Spring Fever at March 27, 2014 12:41 PM (i7KmQ)

171 I say enough is enough,” Reid said in a statement. ---------------------- Right conclusion, wrong topic.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 27, 2014 12:41 PM (aDwsi)

172 Oh, now Reid is worried about negative attention and harassment? His own words slandered Romney. Lied about the Kochs. And he called American citizens burned by Obamacare liars. Go F8ck yourself, Reid. You're a skeezy POS

Posted by: Seems legit at March 27, 2014 12:42 PM (A98Xu)

173 What the hell . . . when you're playing ball with the devil you win any way you can.

Posted by: rplat at March 27, 2014 12:43 PM (UAHTK)

174 How do we know this wasn't completely orchestrated with the conservatives in the know who maybe didn't want to make a vote one way or the other on this? They have plausible deniability, but they were spared from making a difficult vote.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 04:39 PM (gmeXX)

 

 

-------------------------------------------

 

 

Could be, but  it's still underhanded.  That's what the House is for; open deliberation and debate.  You know, representation.  A lot of people have forgotten that. 

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 12:43 PM (QhlpW)

175 The more I read about this, the more I'm convinced that this was a contrived stunt by all including those conservatives who are railing about it. Everybody (and by everybody, I mean the politicians and I guess doctors) wins.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 12:43 PM (gmeXX)

176 Anyone who says that they knew Thailand had their own satellite - any kind of satellite - is lying. It's Thailand for Crist's sake. What are they doing with a satellite? What could they possibly be looking at?

Posted by: jwest at March 27, 2014 12:44 PM (u2a4R)

177

Everybody (and by everybody, I mean the politicians and I guess doctors) wins.

 

--

 

Everybody wins as long as the doctors pay up when contribution time comes around.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2014 12:45 PM (eoeps)

178 Fuck the GOPe

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 27, 2014 12:45 PM (R8hU8)

179 138 If Vic is still around, isn't Mulvaney your rep? Didn't like the vote procedure but met with a bunch of illegals? What's his deal?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 04:33 PM (/djtm)


I think Boner got to him.  He "met" with them, but no votes so far.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 12:45 PM (T2V/1)

180 Jamie Dupree said Louie Gohmert was pissed. Somehow believe both of them.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 12:45 PM (/djtm)

181 We don't have principles because they reward us, but getting fucking nothing for having them and watching crooks dance away with all the prizes is tiring. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 27, 2014 04:35 PM (qyfb5) I blame my parents. They raised me to live in a world that doesn't exist anymore. Hey that makes me a victim! Whoo hoo!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 27, 2014 12:45 PM (oFCZn)

182 Could be, but it's still underhanded. That's what the House is for; open deliberation and debate. You know, representation. A lot of people have forgotten that. ---- Well a nice rule would be that every vote gets recorded so we know who voted for what. Just like a nice rule would be that each piece of legislation should be given 3 days public notice before voting on it. Just like a nice rule would be the Hasert rule. Those are all fun rules to run on, but not so much to actually live up to. I agree this is somewhat underhanded and against the spirit of open government (which we don't really have). But I think the fix was in, and everyone was involved. Sure there are probably a few Buck Weavers who didn't want to go along with it, but they didn't stop it either.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 12:47 PM (gmeXX)

183 Anyone who says that they knew Thailand had their own satellite - any kind of satellite - is lying.

It's Thailand for Crist's sake. What are they doing with a satellite? What could they possibly be looking at?

Weather?  Troop movements?  Same things every other country looks at.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 12:47 PM (A0glY)

184 I see the White House just announced that they have topped their Obamacare goal of 6 million enrolled. Again proving there is no lie to big for these people to tell.

Posted by: Spring Fever at March 27, 2014 04:41 PM (i7KmQ)

 

 

-----------------------------------------

 

 

I saw that earlier on FNC.  I thought, yeah, sure it has.   They have no  real accountable way to measure how many people are ACTUALLY enrolled.

 

Last I heard, the backend of the Ocare website is  still missing.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 12:47 PM (QhlpW)

185 Thanks Vic. SC5 borders NC8 so I like to stay apprised.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 12:48 PM (/djtm)

186 >>>> It's Thailand for Crist's sake. What are they doing with a satellite? What could they possibly be looking at? Posted by: jwest at March 27, 2014 04:44 PM (u2a4R)<<<< Comely young'ns working in the rice paddies ready for the plucking?

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 27, 2014 12:49 PM (8MjqI)

187 Great timing on British Airways new ad campaign. Escape the commute and discover the Indian Ocean. http://tinyurl.com/oetnry6

Posted by: JackStraw at March 27, 2014 12:49 PM (g1DWB)

188 I blame my parents. They raised me to live in a world that doesn't exist anymore.

Hey that makes me a victim! Whoo hoo!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 27, 2014 04:45 PM (oFCZn)

 

 

-----------------------------------------

 

 

Me too!  Yay!

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 12:49 PM (QhlpW)

189

It's Thailand for Crist's sake. What are they doing with a satellite? What could they possibly be looking at?

 

Our neighbors are Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Maylasia.

Posted by: Thailand at March 27, 2014 12:49 PM (JtwS4)

190 I guess I see this as a house issue or house GOP issue, not necessarily a House GOP issue. Sure they may have orchestrated it, but I don't believe that the other House members were unaware of what was going on. I'm not going to fall for this banana in the tailpipe trick.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 12:49 PM (gmeXX)

191 "The doc fix is another one of those budgetary ploys that cause me never to take a congressional budget at it's word. All cuts will always be eliminated."

At the time the CBO officially "scored" Obamacare for deficit performance, and ranked it a "net deficit reducer", a few hardy souls pointed out that this was because (among other thumbs on the scale) the CBO included the hypothecated Medicare reimbursement cuts and presumed them to be a real thing that would actually happen.

Cynic that I am, I predicted that it would not even be six months after Obamacare was enacted that Dingy Harry would be stuffing "doc fix" bills into the Senate pipeline, and hey presto, that's precisely what happened.

Of course, those doc fix bills mean that the CBO's deficit scoring of Obamacare is rendered completely fictional.

Someone noted in passing that the CBO are actually required by law to score these bills based on the budget premises contained in the bills, even though the CBO themselves probably privately assume those premises are total bunk.

The Congress literally could pass a bill which says it has no net fiscal impact because little green men from Mars will land with flying saucers in the next fiscal year and bring the money with them to pay for it, and CBO would be forced, again by law, to consider that bill to be deficit-neutral.

That at least should be amenable to legislative correction. Force the CBO to produce multiple scores for each big bill, which clearly identify the assumed spending premises Congress has included (such as doc-fixes), and which produce a series of different scores with and without each of the premises.

Or, just tar and feather every single goddamned person in D.C. Faster, simpler.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 12:50 PM (noWW6)

192 I guess I see this as a house issue or house GOP issue, not necessarily a House GOP LEADERSHIP issue. Sure they may have orchestrated it, but I don't believe that the other House members were unaware of what was going on. I'm not going to fall for this banana in the tailpipe trick. -- Crap, left out important word - Capitalized above.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 12:50 PM (gmeXX)

193 174 Anyone who says that they knew Thailand had their own satellite - any kind of satellite - is lying. Posted by: jwest at March 27, 2014 04:44 PM (u2a4R) Actually, I watched the launch of Thaicom 6 in January. So that implies they have at least 5 others.

Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2014 12:51 PM (zoehZ)

194 John & Eric are meeting me at the chicken choking shack for lunch tomorrow. 3 martinis and lots of chicken choking. I'll tweet some photos for my adoring fans.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at March 27, 2014 12:51 PM (hpgw1)

195 Between Boehner's boast that he WILL pass amnesty and WON'T try to repeal Ocare,and this crap, that's one Democrat I'm voting for.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 27, 2014 12:51 PM (gkxz4)

196 Torque. Dead on as usual.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 12:51 PM (/djtm)

197 because little green men from Mars will land with flying saucers in the next fiscal year and bring the money with them to pay for it ---- Or they could destroy civilization or start a galactic war which means nothing but stimulus according to Krugman. So here's hoping.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 12:52 PM (gmeXX)

198

Actually, I watched the launch of Thaicom 6 in January. So that implies they have at least 5 others.

 

---

 

Hey, if Jeast says you didn't    know, you didn't know.  He knows everything.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2014 12:54 PM (eoeps)

199 As that Bossy bitch Hillary would say, it takes a willing suspension of disbelief to think the GOP was smart enough to do something that would be beneficial to the American People.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 27, 2014 12:55 PM (A98Xu)

200 Or they could destroy civilization or start a galactic war which means nothing but stimulus according to former Enron advisor Paul Krugman. So here's hoping. Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 04:52 PM (gmeXX) Fixed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 12:56 PM (GEICT)

201 Hey, if Jeast says you didn't know, you didn't know. He knows everything. Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2014 04:54 PM (eoeps) Thank you. I'm glad we're finally getting that down.

Posted by: jwest at March 27, 2014 12:56 PM (u2a4R)

202 Wow. Look at the sh*t-weasel's face when he says Aye's have it. He knows it's not true. Shame on these frauds.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 27, 2014 12:56 PM (IXrOn)

203 "Sure there are probably a few Buck Weavers who didn't want to go along with it, but they didn't stop it either."

How could they stop it? They weren't aware the vote was coming and besides, the nays on the floor were more then the ayes and the presiding House officer declared it passed anyways.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 27, 2014 12:57 PM (IV4od)

204 Or, just tar and feather every single goddamned person in D.C. Faster, simpler. Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 04:50 PM (noWW6) Yes.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 27, 2014 12:57 PM (A98Xu)

205 >>>> Or they could destroy civilization or start a galactic war which means nothing but stimulus according to Krugman. So here's hoping. Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 04:52 PM (gmeXX) But, but, that would be against intergalactic law!

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 27, 2014 12:58 PM (8MjqI)

206 That non-invasive thinking cap in the side bar.  Can we make it mandatory and invasive for anyone who is elected to any office in the Federal District of Washington DC?

Perhaps add a shock option while at it.  Plus new TV remotes that can activate the shock option for your elected Rep and two Senators.  Those wanting to zap the President, well that will be covered under a national lottery held each week to select 100 voting people who can wield that option.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 12:58 PM (rNQTc)

207 Where's willow?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at March 27, 2014 12:59 PM (/djtm)

208

torquewrench, not that there's any point any more, but the essentially meaningless nature of CBO budget projections (in the current era) would be topic #1,238 that an opposition party should hammer on relentlessly in the "press" for both tactical and substantive/educational reasons.

 

Back in the late 70s and early 80s, the world (and Congress) were unrecognizably different, and the mandate to follow legislative assumptions did not regularly produce outlandish distortions.  Of course back then "continuing resolutions" were quite literally very short-term bridges used until real appropriations deals could be finalized, usually around holiday season/sine die adjournment.

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at March 27, 2014 12:59 PM (afQnV)

209 The reason for a Doc fix is because medicaid pays, in most states, about half the bill for services. For example, in my last post I billed roughly $150 for a complete exam of a brand new diabetic patient for about an hour. That included a multi-system physical (by me) and blood work with history and then Tx plan. State paid something like $47.50. Some tests and exams actually were not reimbursed at all. Zero. Now imagine most OCare policies are being reimbursed in the same way and how many doctors are super excited to go with Medicaid. Now imagine that the Medicaid system is not going under already and the ACA is not a badly crafted expansion of it with plans built in to take over the healthcare professionals and force them into Federal employment. If the GOP would get rid of the ACA and reform the whole of Medicaid grants there would not be a need for a fix.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 27, 2014 01:01 PM (CAuLh)

210 Anyone who says that they knew Thailand had their own satellite - any kind of satellite - is lying. Posted by: jwest at March 27, 2014 04:44 PM (u2a4R) We moved our secret Spectre Space Vehicle launching site (with retractable roof!) there from Japan a loooong time ago. ...and you still don't know where my new secret lair is. Hint: Not Thailand. So there.

Posted by: Ernst Trashcanman Blofeld sunning in the Bahamas at March 27, 2014 01:01 PM (5NCNA)

211 But, but, that would be against intergalactic law! Posted by: bergerbilder at March 27, 2014 04:58 PM (8MjqI) But not against the rules of Acquisition!

Posted by: Ferengi Freetrader at March 27, 2014 01:01 PM (84gbM)

212 Dunno, guys.  I think to overcome the damage done to the GOP from the shutdown, the only realistic option is to pass amnesty.  Getting distracted by national insolvency will not produce victory in November.

Posted by: non-purist at March 27, 2014 01:02 PM (afQnV)

213 But, but, that would be against intergalactic law!

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 27, 2014 04:58 PM (8MjqI)

 

 

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And sooooo 35th century.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 01:02 PM (QhlpW)

214 El Eye effin Be

Posted by: game time decision at March 27, 2014 01:02 PM (WKKgC)

215 One night in Bangkok, and your satellite is way out of orbit.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 01:02 PM (ZshNr)

216 I blame my parents. They raised me to live in a world that doesn't exist anymore. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 27, 2014 04:45 PM (oFCZn) fnord (oFCZn) I know, right?

Posted by: Kal El[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 27, 2014 01:03 PM (qyfb5)

217 How could they stop it? They weren't aware the vote was coming and besides, the nays on the floor were more then the ayes and the presiding House officer declared it passed anyways. No procedure in place to call "Bullshit" and demand a ballot vote?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 01:03 PM (ix+5k)

218 How could they stop it? They weren't aware the vote was coming and besides, the nays on the floor were more then the ayes and the presiding House officer declared it passed anyways. ---- My point is they didn't want to stop it because they didn't want to vote against it, but they also didn't want to vote for it. So they all contrived this scheme where they could fein outrage, but then move on. I could be wrong.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 01:03 PM (gmeXX)

219 Perhaps add a shock option while at it. Plus new TV remotes that can activate the shock option for your elected Rep and two Senators. Those wanting to zap the President, well that will be covered under a national lottery held each week to select 100 voting people who can wield that option. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 04:58 PM (rNQTc) fnord (rNQTc) Note to self, order more C-Clamps.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 27, 2014 01:04 PM (qyfb5)

220 Holy s*** do you know what I just heard? George h w bush will receive the profile in courage award. Guess why. You won't believe it. For making a budget deal in 1990 and breaking his promise for no new taxes.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 01:05 PM (MsmYG)

221 No procedure in place to call "Bullshit" and demand a ballot vote? Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 05:03 PM (ix+5k) It the Members of the House had any Nads, there would be an immediate move to replace Boehner... He just usurped THEIR authority and power...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 01:05 PM (84gbM)

222 But not against the rules of Acquisition!

Posted by: Ferengi Freetrader at March 27, 2014 05:01 PM (84gbM)


Nobody expects the Spanish Acquisition!

Posted by: That Guy at March 27, 2014 01:06 PM (Kkt/i)

223 If the GOP would get rid of the ACA and reform the whole of Medicaid grants there would not be a need for a fix.

Posted by: Daybrother at March 27, 2014 05:01 PM (CAuLh)

 

 

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If Obamacare is repealed it would open up whole new doors of affordable healthcare, if left to the free market.  But that's the key.  Medicine must return to being a market based business.  (And yes, I remember when it was)

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 01:06 PM (QhlpW)

224 Republican leadership worked with their Democratic counterparts to orchestrate the ploy.


Been happening to the US for going on at least 5 decades.

Bring on the "lesser of two evil, must vote repub estabs" commentors.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2014 01:07 PM (0Kobm)

225 I know, right? Posted by: Kal El at March 27, 2014 05:03 PM (qyfb5) Barry is no Zod, though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 27, 2014 01:07 PM (oFCZn)

226 Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 05:03 PM (ix+5k) My understanding of House rules is that it only takes ONE Representative to force a roll call vote...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 01:07 PM (84gbM)

227 I saw Shock Option open for Weeping Boner in 1988.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 01:07 PM (ZshNr)

228 Barry is no Zod, though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 27, 2014 05:07 PM (oFCZn)

 

Maybe not, but I'll kneel before him anyway!

Posted by: Reggie Love at March 27, 2014 01:08 PM (DrWcr)

229 My point is they didn't want to stop it because they didn't want to vote against it, but they also didn't want to vote for it. So they all contrived this scheme where they could fein outrage, but then move on. I could be wrong. Posted by: SH Spot on. Because if the dems were really against it, they'd squeal like stuck hogs.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 01:08 PM (ix+5k)

230 From the 2nd link: But House opponents didn’t protest the patch, as they were able to see it pass without voicing approval or disapproval. “The problem is if we would let it expire,” Rep. John Fleming (R-La.), who said he would have opposed the bill in a roll call vote. Rep. Michael Burgess (R-Texas), a physician who is the House’s strongest proponent of a permanent replacement, called the process “bizarre.” He said he opposed the bill “but not enough to stop it.” They were opposed to the "doc fix" because they wanted a permanent fix to the Medicare funding formula, but efforts failed over how to fund it. There wasn't enough time before the April 1 deadline to make it happen. tl;dr- Inside baseball shenanigans.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 27, 2014 01:09 PM (SY2Kh)

231 Want to know who those 6 million signups include? How about Mexican nationals wandering about their consulate.Despite the law clearly stating that illegals are not eligible. http://tinyurl.com/nuulnvu

Posted by: Jen at March 27, 2014 01:09 PM (IdGqX)

232 There being no dissenting votes, the motion carries. *bang*

Posted by: In the opinion of the chair at March 27, 2014 01:09 PM (QupBk)

233 Holy s*** do you know what I just heard?

George h w bush will receive the profile in courage award.

Guess why.
You won't believe it.

For making a budget deal in 1990 and breaking his promise for no new taxes.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 05:05 PM (MsmYG)

 

 

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This is a slap in the face for HW.  I hope he recognizes this as such.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 01:09 PM (QhlpW)

234 >>>> For making a budget deal in 1990 and breaking his promise for no new taxes. Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 05:05 PM (MsmYG) Hey, these lips don't lie.

Posted by: Shakira H.W. at March 27, 2014 01:09 PM (8MjqI)

235 Do Profile in Courage recipients give a speech? I would like to hear him devote it to his fellow WWII service members and talk about how they are the real heroes.

Posted by: SH at March 27, 2014 01:10 PM (gmeXX)

236 Spot on. Because if the dems were really against it, they'd squeal like stuck hogs. Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 05:08 PM (ix+5k) Washington D.C. has become a game of "Liar's Poker."

Posted by: D-Lamp at March 27, 2014 01:10 PM (bb5+k)

237 Spot on. Because if the dems were really against it, they'd squeal like stuck hogs. Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 05:08 PM (ix+5k)


"Asked if the maneuver was sneaky, Connolly quoted the fictional Frank Underwood, a master of Washington subterfuge from Netflix's "House of Cards" series.

“To quote the ‘House of Cards,’ you might say that, you might very well say that. But I cannot comment,” he quipped.

“I've been dying to do that,” he added.

Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.), the retiring dean of the House, mused to reporters, “I’ve seen a lot of dumb things, but I’ve never seen anything as comical as this.”"


Posted by: DangerGirl at March 27, 2014 01:11 PM (GrtrJ)

238 The interesting thing here is that the Medicare 'fix' has always been overturned... its never been in effect... Because it would lower Doctor's fees down to the place where Doctors will stop seeing those patients... as they would lose too much money on them. BUT, the 'Fix' being in the budget, makes the deficit look smaller.... So its really like Obama and all his Obamacare numbers, and the Unemployment numbers.... and the inflation numbers... Its jerrymandered to make it look better than it really is.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 01:11 PM (84gbM)

239 Breaking News: US Appeals Court Upholds New Texas Abortion Rules Per NBCDFW.com

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 01:12 PM (ix+5k)

240

Especially amidst what is truly unprecedented lawlessness from almost all sides, I don't think this (procedurally) qualifies as "lawless", however.  The House is always a dictatorship - more or less benign, depending on party and leadership.  But unlike the Senate, which literally operates by unanimous consent of 100 members, the House rules do not give a minority the power to stop the trains (note that aside from what are now exceptionally rare - and demonized - temporary speed bumps in the Senate, such as the mini-filibusters recently, even the Senate seems to have lost its essential nature, and senators rarely use their power to hold up business).

 

Now, the shit they were talking back when O-care was passed ("deeming" something passed, for example), that WAS lawless stuff.  In fact the "shell bill" issue and the use of reconciliation with O-care were both arguably lawless.

 

But today's shit?  Not lawless.  Which doesn't go to the substance, political or otherwise, of the maneuver.  I don't know the House that well, but it smells like a significant if not outrageous or unheard of bit of chicanery and cowardice by leadership.  Those speculating kabuki theater all-around may be right, but it doesn't smell like that to me.

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at March 27, 2014 01:12 PM (afQnV)

241 I am noting a lot of new hashes and nicks and a... how to put it... a tendency to stir the pot. My squirrel sense is pinging.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 01:12 PM (x3YFz)

242 I'd like GHW Bush to accept the invite, then parachute onto the West Lawn wearing Skull and Bones robes, with his tallywhacker all aflap.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 01:12 PM (ZshNr)

243 This is a slap in the face for HW. I hope he recognizes this as such. Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 05:09 PM (QhlpW) There is no law that says you MUST accept an award...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 01:13 PM (84gbM)

244 And next year the GOP excuse will be, "we must be pragmatic, we only have control of one branch of the government and we need to work with the President". In 2016 it will be "it's an election year again and can't risk upsetting the elderly and independents".
And the cycle continues and nothing about entitlements will ever be addressed.
They will find a way to ram amnesty down our throats though.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 27, 2014 01:13 PM (IV4od)

245 This is a cute move to take out Jeb Bush's legs from under him.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 01:15 PM (MsmYG)

246  Breaking News:
US Appeals Court Upholds New Texas Abortion Rules

Per NBCDFW.com

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 05:12 PM (ix+5k)

 

 

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Wendy has a sad.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 01:15 PM (QhlpW)

247

They will find a way to ram amnesty down our throats though.

 

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Chamber of commerce 'campaign contributions' that they can launder into their bank account are much more important than   principles.   Or you.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 27, 2014 01:15 PM (eoeps)

248 237 Breaking News:
US Appeals Court Upholds New Texas Abortion Rules

Per NBCDFW.com Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 05:12 PM (ix+5k)



Good.  Fuck that pink sneaker baby killing whore cum dumpster.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 27, 2014 01:16 PM (GrtrJ)

249 They're as bad as Democrats. Just less ambitious.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 27, 2014 01:16 PM (ZBjRZ)

250 Why vote? Why even vote? I want a straight Republican ticket, I'm gonna end up with Dempublicrats in power, all circle-jerking to the same beat and drinking power like it was virgin blood.
I'm not the only sick and disgusted person in the room, am I?
I don't want to participate in this sham, don't want to lend it any legitimacy. To effect real change, we have to blah blah blah blah we can't. We can't effect real change, short of a giant DC sinkhole swallowing the whole filthy mess.
And hey, good news! We might get a choice between a Clinton and a Bush! Thank God this country is finally going back to its Royalist roots. It's lonely being a peasant, without a king.

Posted by: rick at March 27, 2014 01:17 PM (O+o7k)

251 Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman Nothing to see here. Just Russia setting up field hospitals kilometers away from the Ukrainian border. http://www.voanews.com/content/imf-to-loan-ukraine-up-to-18-billion/1880288.html Â…

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 27, 2014 01:17 PM (ZPrif)

252

When I said "lawlessness from all sides" I was referring to the judiciary, the executive, and sometimes the congressional Dems - not really the congressional GOP.   It surely is enabling the lawlessness through passivity, cowardice, or astonishing tactical brilliance that only certain commenters here with no Hill experience can descry, but is not actually initiating any of it.

 

Posted by: non-purist at March 27, 2014 01:17 PM (afQnV)

253

As I said (and now I must go shooting), the only way for the GOP to overcome the damage from the shutdown is to do amnesty, and do it quick.  I would think this would be self-evident to folks around here.

 

Posted by: non-purist at March 27, 2014 01:19 PM (afQnV)

254 Noah Rothman þ@NoahCRothman
Nothing to see here. Just Russia setting up field hospitals kilometers away from the Ukrainian border. http://www.voanews.com/content/imf-to-loan-ukraine-up-to-18-billion/1880288.html Â…

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 27, 2014 05:17 PM (ZPrif)

 

 

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Quick.  Call the CIA.  Tell them it's crunch time.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 01:21 PM (QhlpW)

255 I am agreeing with all my fellow conservatives. The Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats. To hell with the Republicans. I think we should send a message to them and stay home and not vote and not give them any money! Who's with me? Let's join together and make a brave stand by withdrawing from this corrupt political process!!

Posted by: Mr. Conservative (definitely not a liberal activist, that's crazy!) at March 27, 2014 01:21 PM (ZPrif)

256 251 As I said (and now I must go shooting), the only way for the GOP to overcome the damage from the shutdown is to do amnesty, and do it quick. I would think this would be self-evident to folks around here. Uh, what ??

Posted by: grammie winger at March 27, 2014 01:21 PM (oMKp3)

257 grammie, I think that is sarcasm.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 27, 2014 01:22 PM (GrtrJ)

258 Or at least I hope so.

Posted by: DangerGirl at March 27, 2014 01:22 PM (GrtrJ)

259 I just want to thank my Uncle Speaker John Boehner for the money he included for me in the Doc fix. Totally unexpected. Kisses, Uncle John!

Posted by: Ryan Elisabeth Reid at March 27, 2014 01:22 PM (Ttj5v)

260 Obama loves Boehner.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 27, 2014 01:22 PM (9W+0f)

261 Noah Rothman þ@NoahCRothman Nothing to see here. Just Russia setting up field hospitals kilometers away from the Ukrainian border. http://www.voanews.com/content/imf-to-loan-ukraine-up-to-18-billion/1880288.html … Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 27, 2014 05:17 PM It's going to be an interesting weekend...

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 27, 2014 01:22 PM (9HP5k)

262 Posted by: DangerGirl at March 27, 2014 05:22 PM (GrtrJ) Oh. Phew!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 27, 2014 01:23 PM (oMKp3)

263 nood

Posted by: fluffisimo at March 27, 2014 01:23 PM (Ua6T/)

264 As I said (and now I must go shooting), the only way for the GOP to overcome the damage from the shutdown is to do amnesty, and do it quick. I would think this would be self-evident to folks around here. Uh, what ?? Posted by: grammie winger at March 27, 2014 05:21 PM (oMKp3) I know grammie. I had the exact same reaction.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 01:24 PM (x3YFz)

265 Happily, Vladimir told me he has a little flexibility before the Ukraine ball goes up and I can fit in a couple of rounds of golf. Whew.

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 27, 2014 01:24 PM (Ttj5v)

266 The House leadership has far too much power relative to the rest of the House. And it uses that power to Sodomize the Representatives of the People. Which, aside from being Gay, is also quite antidemocratic.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 27, 2014 01:24 PM (9W+0f)

267
imf-to-loan-ukraine-up-to-18-billion<<<<<<<<<<<<

a good portion which comes from the USA and will never be paid back.  Ever.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2014 01:24 PM (0Kobm)

268 258 Obama loves Boehner. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 27, 2014 05:22 PM (9W+0f) I'm going to apologize in advance for the profanity, but it's... appropriate. And there's a story behind it. Obama loves Boehner like Wagner loves ****.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 01:26 PM (x3YFz)

269 Prostitutes don't really like sex. And law makers don't really like laws. 'Obey the laws? No. You misunderstand. We make the laws.'

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 27, 2014 01:26 PM (9W+0f)

270 Well I don't know about you rubes but as long as the GOP are having fun and getting to do stuff, "they've always wanted to do," who are we to decry them for the bullshitery they thrust upon us?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 27, 2014 01:27 PM (A98Xu)

271 Posted by: Mr. Conservative (definitely not a liberal activist, that's crazy!) at March 27, 2014 05:21 PM (ZPrif) We must support the GOP in all it does, and we must never, ever, do anything that would harm it. They have our best interests at heart. Only total loyalty and full donations will prevent things the GOP currently allows, or cut budgets the GOP currently increases. Damn anyone who keeps track of what the GOP does! We are the party of integrity!

Posted by: Mr. Realist at March 27, 2014 01:27 PM (5M5r7)

272 The House leadership is homeostatic. It favors homeostasis. Or, rather, inertia. But all the derivatives are in the wrong direction.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at March 27, 2014 01:27 PM (9W+0f)

273 1. "Deemed to have passed?" 2. Will they try this with open borders, aka immigration reform? 3. Neither major party nor the US elite is an advocate for the American middle class. In particular, the Republican Establishment works for a Big Business that is looking offshore for its new markets and employees.

Posted by: gs at March 27, 2014 01:32 PM (J2AyB)

274 “As a grandparent, I say enough is enough,” Reid said in a statement. Posted by: B at March 27, 2014 04:37 PM (VC56G) ______________ I am NOT a grandparent, but I agree with you Harry: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Do not pass 'Go'; do Not collect $200; Go straight to jail (For those old enough to understand what I'm referring to)

Posted by: alwyr at March 27, 2014 01:34 PM (V0j3u)

275 new one

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 01:36 PM (T2V/1)

276 272   alwyr

and sell all your railroads and Park Place

Posted by: NCwoof at March 27, 2014 01:37 PM (aUQgu)

277 272 alwyr and sell all your railroads and Park Place ______________ Those properties went bankrupt YEARS ago

Posted by: alwyr at March 27, 2014 01:51 PM (V0j3u)

278 sock off

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 01:55 PM (g4TxM)

279 Democrats are nazis and thee architechts of our current state of affairs. The GOP are the kappos herding everyone into cattle cars with false promises. This isn't going to end well.

Posted by: Casual Observer from the watchtower at March 27, 2014 02:04 PM (mpYlR)

280 I see a Barky / Boner golf outing soon..

Posted by: Short Putter at March 27, 2014 02:19 PM (jYZt5)

281 The Speaker is worried about his chances right now. Here in the district there have been 3 phone messages from various sections of his re-election committee. There have also been 3 messages from various of his challengers. It's only about 5 weeks until the Ohio primary....

Posted by: exdem13 at March 27, 2014 02:26 PM (lJaja)

282 I don't Boner is running for Speaker again. Surely he would not tick off members like this if he was running.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at March 27, 2014 03:15 PM (g0H8G)

283 No trinkets for the House Leadership!

Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 27, 2014 03:41 PM (7v8o1)

284 The only way to stop the madness is to eliminate government medical licensing.

Posted by: teapartydoc at March 27, 2014 04:38 PM (4U98b)

285 Aren't these House leaders the people Ace says are preferable to Tea Party types, like Sen. Cruz?

Posted by: cormac_mcroadie at March 27, 2014 04:50 PM (GhBou)

286 The reason the "doc fix" is done every two years is that the cuts weren't reasonable.  They lower fees to the point NO DOCTOR would accept Medicare.

Now if your object as a burn-it-all-down nutbar is to sabotage Medicare, no fix is needed.

Form a new party and run on all your great ideas.  I'm sure it will be a BIG hit - especially among Republicans, who will no longer have to be embarrassed by the association.

Posted by: Adjoran at March 27, 2014 06:21 PM (QIQ6j)

287 See?   *THIS*  is why we have to choose nice, moderate, middle-of-the-road RINO's who can do the "Bipartisan boogaloo" with the Democrats.

ELECTABLE Republicans, baby, all-the-way!

(Or -- heck, just vote Democrat and be done with it.)

Posted by: Squirrel! at March 27, 2014 08:26 PM (SXvCk)

288 Was the Quorum met? A Majority is required for Business. I find "voice votes" to be a Tyrant's Plea. There's just shady shit going on with that utility.

Posted by: jk76 at March 28, 2014 01:04 AM (VKkox)

289

Note well, this is how Shamnesty will become law.

Drew, this is your answer to "Time Will Tell".

Sayeth the bard, "Bite Me, GOP"  http://tinyurl.com/n84n59k

 

Posted by: Born Free at March 28, 2014 08:47 AM (xL8Hf)

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