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January 28, 2014

In the beginning was the Word
— Monty

[bumped by BenK: This is worth a read for those who missed it last night]

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - John 1:1

This is what I have to say about the SOTU, and every other content-free political speech and op-end we're going to have inflicted on us from here on out:

There is a price to be paid for divorcing actions and concepts from the words that describe them. Government, and the law that undergirds it, is made up of words. Devalue the words, strip them of meaning, and you do the same thing to the concepts those words describe. Action follows Thought, and for Thought to exist there must be the Word.

This was George Orwell's central insight when he invented Newspeak for his novel 1984. Language doesn't just describe what we think about, and allow us to communicate with each other; in a major way, it actually determines what we think about, and how we think. We conceptualize the way we do, even in the abstract, using constructs of language - even mathematics and computer code is a kind of language. Orwell understood that the Word could actually be turned into a weapon, an invisible knife to cut away a man's ability to think (and thus, to act). All you have to do is convince a man that the Word he's hearing means something other than what he thought it meant...or can mean anything, really. Or nothing at all. Science, history, literature, even music -- they evaporate like a puddle in the hot sun because the Words used to build them stop conveying meaning.

Words have meaning. They must have meaning, for if we are to communicate at all we must transmit meaning from one person to another. This is perhaps the most unforgivable part of the postmodernist assault on the language itself: it has weakened our ability to even describe the loss of meaning.

If a Word can mean anything, it means nothing. Think of that while his Majesty the King speaks tomorrow night.

Posted by: Monty at 07:37 AM | Comments (526)
Post contains 347 words, total size 2 kb.

1 Barry has a pen and he's not afraid to use it.

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2014 05:04 PM (bAGA/)

2 Just words..........

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2014 05:04 PM (F75MN)

3 Does this man come in from the rats? And what price does he pay? And who is rent asunder?

Posted by: Percy Shelley at January 27, 2014 05:05 PM (2ArJQ)

4 Does this man come in from the rats? And what price does he pay? And who is rent asunder?

Posted by: Percy Shelley

Bysshe please!

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 05:07 PM (cxs6V)

5 Are you suggesting that the President is a SCoaMF?

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 05:07 PM (QupBk)

6 You wonderfully expressed that, Monty. Well chosen words. Thank you.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 05:08 PM (P6QsQ)

7 One SCoaMF, Vasily. One SCoaMF only.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 27, 2014 05:08 PM (54dkR)

8 I just learned a new phrase: Dragon-bangin'.

Posted by: Judge Pug at January 27, 2014 05:08 PM (E4MKN)

9 Think of that while his Majesty the King ~~speaks~~ reads tomorrow night. FIFY

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:09 PM (yz6yg)

10 doubleplus ungood

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 05:09 PM (QupBk)

11 I thought Grease was the Word?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:09 PM (GEICT)

12 Obama's "just words" speech... Plagiarizing from Deval Patrick like Shia LaBeuoieph on MDMA.

Posted by: wooga at January 27, 2014 05:09 PM (MyQWX)

13 Monty, your posts are infrequent, but they never lack for substance. Got me some thinking to do.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 27, 2014 05:09 PM (qTirZ)

14 Behold my munificence!

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 27, 2014 05:10 PM (Dwehj)

15 "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean － neither more nor less."

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be the master － that's all."

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2014 05:10 PM (bAGA/)

16 Everybody knows that the bird is the word.

Posted by: wooga at January 27, 2014 05:10 PM (MyQWX)

17 Have never watched one of this braying jackasses speeches. Fucking mewling quim.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2014 05:10 PM (ef0iP)

18 All liberals have an instinctive aversion to precision and definition. It's almost a defining trait.

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 05:10 PM (QupBk)

19 Momentarily OT The "Piers Morgan" gun bill guy on Piers Morgan next.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:10 PM (DmNpO)

20 1 I thought Grease was the Word? It's certainly got groove, it's got meaning

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:10 PM (yz6yg)

21 Let them eat pineapple!

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 27, 2014 05:11 PM (Dwehj)

22 This is perhaps the most unforgivable part of the postmodernist assault on the language itself Post-modernism, deconstructionism, critical theory-- all designed to eliminate meaning and structure so it can be replaced with 'approved' ideas.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 05:11 PM (MMC8r)

23 Words do have meaning. Sometimes that meaning is BULLSHIT!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:11 PM (DmNpO)

24 o Monty i miss you so. just don't tell my spouse , children, friends and assorted others.

and also i wonder if George Orwell had any idea his nightmare would come from His own side.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:11 PM (nqBYe)

25 Divorcing words from their meaning in order to deceive and misdirect and leave the listener confused or bewildered, rendered incapable of taking action in their best interest. Reminds me of the movie Gaslight a little bit.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 05:11 PM (P6QsQ)

26 it actually determines what we think about, and how we think.T

*rubs copy of Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus all over self*

What Monty said.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 27, 2014 05:11 PM (Gk3SS)

27 23 Words do have meaning. Sometimes that meaning is BULLSHIT! Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 09:11 PM (DmNpO) You already turned on Piers, didn't you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:12 PM (GEICT)

28 *rubs copy of Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus all over self* Yeah. Yeah that's it baby. A little to the right now.

Posted by: Wittgenstein[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:13 PM (yz6yg)

29 Ok, who's turn to take one for the team tomorrow?

Posted by: lindafell at January 27, 2014 05:13 PM (PGO8C)

30 Words are but soft pretzels of the truth.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 27, 2014 05:13 PM (Dwehj)

31 I've never watched a speech by Obama, State of the Union or otherwise. I have no intention of breaking that pattern tomorrow night.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 05:13 PM (P6QsQ)

32 You already turned on Piers, didn't you? *** How did you guess?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:13 PM (DmNpO)

33 George Wackov(?) Set just this baseline for the left's charming ability of obfuscatory euphamism.... Wendy Davisis "pro-child" in the sense she stands with Kermit Gosnel to murder them if it is at al convenient. Barack Obama is "pro middle class" in the sense his hyper-regulatory fiat whim state obliterates the equilibrium and stability for planning needed to allow the economy to adapt. And on and on, and on. Good evening Monty...I think I a sitting the SotU out nothing worth knowing will be spoken.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 05:13 PM (TE35l)

34 My favorite word is the Word.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 27, 2014 05:13 PM (3qZbZ)

35 >> http://tinyurl.com/l2delv6 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 08:58 PM (GEICT) wtf is this pic from?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 05:13 PM (zELMe)

36 Ok, who's turn to take one for the team tomorrow? Posted by: lindafell at January 27, 2014 09:13 PM (PGO8C)

BC VOLUNTEERS AS TRIBUTE!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 27, 2014 05:13 PM (Gk3SS)

37 Meadow

Posted by: Dan Rather at January 27, 2014 05:14 PM (DmNpO)

38 wtf is this pic from? Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 09:13 PM (zELMe) The internet.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:14 PM (GEICT)

39 That depends upon what the meaning of "is" is.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 27, 2014 05:14 PM (2ArJQ)

40 Were I to bother listening to SCoaMF anymore, all I'd hear is, "Blah blah blah..."

I'd rather be eaten alive by pirate ghost ship rats carrying an angry disposition than suffer through an Obama word salad lie fest.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 05:14 PM (eHIJJ)

41 BC VOLUNTEERS AS TRIBUTE! Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 27, 2014 09:13 PM (Gk3SS) The fuck he does.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:14 PM (GEICT)

42 Words. Just Words.

Posted by: King Barakan the First at January 27, 2014 05:15 PM (Bps3R)

43 "That's why tonight, I am creating a task force under the leadership of Vice President Biden to bring back the mullet."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 27, 2014 05:15 PM (ltdV/)

44 The fuck he does. I thought you were a team player?!?!

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:15 PM (yz6yg)

45
BC VOLUNTEERS AS TRIBUTE!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 27, 2014 09:13 PM (Gk3SS)

Your nobility, we see it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2014 05:15 PM (lr3d7)

46 And BC is on a roll tonight

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:15 PM (DmNpO)

47 The fuck he does. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 09:14 PM (GEICT)

Too late, you've volunteered. That was really noble of you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 27, 2014 05:16 PM (Gk3SS)

48 17 Have never watched one of this braying jackasses speeches. Fucking mewling quim. Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2014 09:10 PM (ef0iP) Yep. I didn't even watch the Styrofoam Columns speech in 2008. I'd had my fill of him by then.

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2014 05:16 PM (sdi6R)

49 My STFU is so packed with lies it shattered my Magic Eight Ball.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 27, 2014 05:16 PM (Dwehj)

50 WTF is Piers talking about?!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:16 PM (DmNpO)

51 I'm confident that this entire post is a thought crime.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 27, 2014 05:17 PM (BZAd3)

52 The internet. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 09:14 PM (GEICT) derrr, I got that. Got to be actresses or at lease getting paid. No chicks do that voluntarily That or that is one crazy kind of spa day

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 05:17 PM (zELMe)

53 I thought you were a team player?!?! Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 27, 2014 09:15 PM (yz6yg) Everything has a limit. Too late, you've volunteered. That was really noble of you. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 27, 2014 09:16 PM (Gk3SS) Noble is Bannion's job. Jesters aren't known for their nobility.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:17 PM (GEICT)

54 Daily reminder: Reddit still supports Obama.

Posted by: Daily Reminder Guy at January 27, 2014 05:18 PM (6j8ke)

55 Noble is Bannion's job. Jesters aren't known for their nobility. Â…or administering spankings.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:18 PM (yz6yg)

56 OT but does anybody know why Ace changed his twitter to King Ghidorah?

Posted by: Big T Party at January 27, 2014 05:18 PM (tE2TK)

57 A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IasCZL072fQ

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2014 05:18 PM (XvHmy)

58 A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, well, the bird is the word

Posted by: Trashmen at January 27, 2014 05:18 PM (Bps3R)

59 derrr, I got that. Got to be actresses or at lease getting paid. No chicks do that voluntarily That or that is one crazy kind of spa day Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 09:17 PM (zELMe) *shrug* Pic was posted at another blog. You're thinking far too hard about this. And you're kidding right? You ever seen Girls Gone Wild? Girls do incredibly slutty and stupid things nowadays.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:19 PM (GEICT)

60 So much depends upon a red rooster With his head up a kangaroo's ass.

Posted by: Guillermo Carlos Guillermo at January 27, 2014 05:19 PM (2ArJQ)

61 Psalm 33:6. "By the words of the Lord, the heavens were made." America 20:14. "By the words of Obama, the country was destroyed."

Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 05:19 PM (P6QsQ)

62 Â…or administering spankings. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 27, 2014 09:18 PM (yz6yg) That was in my role as Marginally Honorable Chairman.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:19 PM (GEICT)

63 The Bird is the Word, by The Trashmen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0GtRI4Ulo

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:20 PM (aDwsi)

64 There is another "In the beginning" verse, the famed opening line of the Bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." John's "In the beginning," while appearing much later in the scriptures, takes us back to a starting point before the Big Bang of creation. And what was there? The Word. Actually, the Greek here is "logos" and it could be rendered "the logic" or even, "law." Scientists can peer back to the first "In the beginning" but no further. Stephen Hawking admits there must have been some laws in place before the universe sprang into being. He's right. It was "the Word" who "became flesh and dwelt among us."

Posted by: MaxMBJ at January 27, 2014 05:20 PM (deaac)

65 Someone needs to take the text of Barky's speech and run it through Wordle. It would be interesting to see what comes up.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at January 27, 2014 05:20 PM (uzmcT)

66 Pic was posted at another blog. Reverse image search shows it was featured on the Chive. Other than that, it's been passed around so much I don't know where it originated.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 05:20 PM (4QSOR)

All you have to do is convince a man that the Word he's hearing means something other than what he thought it meant...or can mean anything, really.

The goal of every lawyer arguing about a law: To convince the judge and the public that the words they are reading don't actually mean what they clearly do.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2014 05:20 PM (LI48c)

68 Read Orwell's "Politics and the English Language"

Posted by: logprof at January 27, 2014 05:20 PM (X3GkB)

Reminds me of the movie Gaslight a little bit.

Yes, me too. I watched that a few weeks ago. But at least that had a happy ending.

Posted by: Infidel at January 27, 2014 05:20 PM (6bvBO)

70 58 - Fist bump

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:21 PM (aDwsi)

71 A little mood music: This one still holdsÂ…. h ttp://tinyurl.com/ygopjmn

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:21 PM (yz6yg)

72 Damn Monty... you channeled Capt Kirk from teh old TV series... dead on. I imagined James T making that speech... awesome.

Posted by: Yip at January 27, 2014 05:21 PM (/jHWN)

73 I'm not sure whether we'll be getting a lecture, a sermon, or a rehash of all of his other yawners. The man has no fire in his belly, just a big chip on his shoulder next to his dumbo ears.

Posted by: Fritz at January 27, 2014 05:21 PM (TKFmG)

74 OT but does anybody know why Ace changed his twitter to King Ghidorah? Posted by: Big T Party at January 27, 2014 09:18 PM (tE2TK)

Because King Ghidorah is awesome?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 27, 2014 05:21 PM (Gk3SS)

75 My favorite word is the Word. Just don't ask me when it was made flesh.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 27, 2014 05:21 PM (vBhbc)

76 61 Grammie Winger, He didn't kill America his voters did... Strong enough to touch the stars and fragile enough all it takes is a tyrant's sneeze.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 05:21 PM (TE35l)

77 You ever seen Girls Gone Wild? Girls do incredibly slutty and stupid things nowadays. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 it is not the girl on girl, but all the mud, like "Quest for Fire" on 'roids

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 05:22 PM (zELMe)

78 Girls do incredibly slutty and stupid things nowadays. As anyone who has experienced Freshman Move-In Day at Boston University can tell youÂ….

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:22 PM (yz6yg)

79 Dahm is talking about the 2nd amendment and Piers brings out a Kinder Egg and asks if Dahm knows what ist is and why it's illegal. Dahm explains what it is and that it is illegal because the government is trying to protect us from ourselves. Piers then asks something so stupid, something along the lines of do you see any similarities that the guy was dumbstruck. As am I. I can't even remember what he asked because I heard my brain sizzle and suddenly smelled smoke.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:22 PM (DmNpO)

80 34 My favorite word is the Word. Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 27, 2014 09:13 PM (3qZbZ) And your next three favorites are Partial Birth Abortion

Posted by: madamex at January 27, 2014 05:22 PM (1zsKV)

81 ok the Wittgenstein was interesting, ty.

repeat cuz i got lost

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:23 PM (nqBYe)

82 Because King Ghidorah is awesome? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 27, 2014 09:21 PM (Gk3SS) You misspelled Kaiju.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:23 PM (GEICT)

83 Posted by: bonhomme at January 27, 2014 09:20 PM (4QSOR) the Chive, mystery solved thanks

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 05:23 PM (zELMe)

84 Mike & Molly: The dog is licking the "becky" from the Mom's toes A new low

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 27, 2014 05:24 PM (e8kgV)

85 The Word. Actually, the Greek here is "logos" and it could be rendered "the logic" or even, "law." Also as 'Thought' or reason.

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 05:24 PM (QupBk)

86 "and also i wonder if George Orwell had any idea his nightmare would come from His own side." He did. He saw what the Walter Durantys of the world were up to. This, more than the open communists, is what drove him to write "1984."

Posted by: MaxMBJ at January 27, 2014 05:24 PM (deaac)

87 You misspelled Kaiju. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 09:23 PM (GEICT)

Great. Now I have to watch Pacific Rim.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 27, 2014 05:24 PM (Gk3SS)

88 Everyone knows that Bird is the word..
bird...bird...bird..bird is the word

"Call to action", " Year of Action" "Now is the time for Action" , 'We must Act and we must Act Now!' Now is the time we have been waiting for.

Act, Act now. and with the fierce urgency of Act Now, we shall over come, we shall not be denied, we shall take what is rightfully ours. We shall take it from our oppressors,

We shall take what we are owed, we shall take it from them on the street, in the hills, on the beaches, in the suburbs, in the courts and we will never, never, never give up.

Posted by: Wilsun Pockit at January 27, 2014 05:24 PM (GyG+f)

89 44 deg. today, now 21.3 and dropping

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:24 PM (aDwsi)

90 The glowing positive reviews have already been written about tomorrow's STFU. Not even Orwell saw that coming. We live under a quasi Chicom/Soviet rule and WE are the only ones who know it.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 05:24 PM (hpngP)

91 "85 The Word. Actually, the Greek here is "logos" and it could be rendered "the logic" or even, "law." Also as 'Thought' or reason." True dat. Also, "ratio," from which we get "rational."

Posted by: MaxMBJ at January 27, 2014 05:25 PM (deaac)

92 79 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse, And yet..a large part of his coalition back adding more intoxicantsto the good column. I must have missed "liberty" needing chaperoned so hard.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 05:25 PM (TE35l)

93 I always joke about Dan Rather saying "meadow" because he was once asked why he said "courage" at the end of every show and he said it was because his second favorite word and his favorite would have left people baffled. His favorite: Meadow So.... "courage" had no deeper meaning than it was his second favorite word.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:25 PM (DmNpO)

94 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 09:22 PM (DmNpO) Wait, did Piers actually have a Kinder Egg?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:26 PM (GEICT)

95 A living breathing document.

Posted by: Bivalve Curious at January 27, 2014 05:26 PM (aGqSh)

96 We live under a quasi Chicom/Soviet rule and WE are the only ones who know it.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 09:24 PM (hpngP)

or we are the only ones that will voice it.

because we already know we are targeted no one else wants to be?

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:26 PM (nqBYe)

97 its supposed to snow in Houston I will watch Rich Kids of Beverly Hills before I watch the SOTU

Posted by: thunderb at January 27, 2014 05:26 PM (zOTsN)

98 I wish the martian ambassador would show up tomorrow night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 05:26 PM (t3UFN)

99 WIKI: In June 2012 the potential fine per egg was quoted as US$2,500. Anybody want to turn Morgan in to the feds?

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 05:27 PM (MMC8r)

100 True dat. Also, "ratio," from which we get "rational." Posted by: MaxMBJ at January 27, 2014 09:25 PM (deaac) Not to mention "ferratio."

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 27, 2014 05:27 PM (2ArJQ)

101 Since King Obama has no idea what he is talking about, he's just reading words on TotUS, he would burn right through sofa king Jack Mehoff Mike Hunt and have no clue he just got pranked DWotUS=Dim Wit of the US

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 05:27 PM (zELMe)

102 Wait, did Piers actually have a Kinder Egg? *** YUP!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:27 PM (DmNpO)

103 dang it, hammer beat me to it.
gotta type faster..

just a minute cookies are calling me

Posted by: Wilsun Pockit at January 27, 2014 05:28 PM (GyG+f)

104 What we have is far worse than China or the USSR. Here, nobody is forcing our 'free' press and corporations to go along with the totalitarian regime; the press and corporations are *willingly* marching in lockstep towards tyranny. It's insane.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 05:28 PM (hpngP)

105 YUP! Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 09:27 PM (DmNpO) Dumb fuck. As --- said, that's a $2,500 fine.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:28 PM (GEICT)

106 ...and the Word is Bird; Bird is the Word...

Posted by: Brother Cavil needs to sort his socks at January 27, 2014 05:28 PM (m9V0o)

107 I would rather have a biopsy than watch TFG & the sotu

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 27, 2014 05:28 PM (HVff2)

108 fellow travelers.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:29 PM (nqBYe)

109 78 Girls do incredibly slutty and stupid things nowadays. As anyone who has experienced Freshman Move-In Day at Boston University can tell youÂ…. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 27, 2014 09:22 PM (yz6yg) Hmmm....somehow I missed that.

Posted by: Caliban at January 27, 2014 05:29 PM (2ArJQ)

110 102 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse, He's protected by the David Gergory precedent... It's okay when THEY break the law Dear Friends. Like when I smuggled in(allegedly) Cuban Cigars

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 05:29 PM (TE35l)

111 the press and corporations are *willingly* marching in lockstep towards tyranny. ------------------- There are a couple of terms that apply, 'Fellow Travelers', and 'Fifth Columnists'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:29 PM (aDwsi)

112 King Ghiddorah.. the original allegory of a menace from China? The Planet X version? Or the one created when the US detonated an atomic bomb and fused the Drats? Or even Mecha King Ghiddorah?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 05:30 PM (DIg/e)

113 Tomorrow night, the roku and netflix will be my sole means of entertainment. Screw tfg and the shit that spews from his piehole.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2014 05:30 PM (ef0iP)

114 Monty quoted the Bible. That makes him at least a Level 10 SoCon.

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2014 05:31 PM (U+vgB)

115 sooth anyway it does make me feel we're doomed .

which might be exactly the reaction they wish us to feel.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:31 PM (nqBYe)

116 *Canned intro appealing our "togetherness"* *clap clap clap from trained seals in audience* *Play for budget item* *Reference to "equality" in marriage"* *Clap clap clap from trained seals in audience* *Camera pans to Mooches VIP guests* *We must support our military sop* *Thunderous clapping from seals in attendance that all know it's BS* *Play to "fix" our broken immigration system* *Standing ovation from half the seals, tepid clapping from other half* *Uplifting quote inserted by ValJar into speech* *God Bless America because you know how important faith is in my life plus stupid Americans like that crap* The End

Posted by: A foretaste at January 27, 2014 05:31 PM (dvRYt)

117 104 Soothsayer, Yup and no leaking by the media to any US Samizdat... Nothing wrong with the newsies that can't be fixed by our hands.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 05:31 PM (TE35l)

118 If the Kinder egg is banned when will they ban the Mardi Gras King cake?

Or have they already done that?

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 05:31 PM (TI3xG)

119 I once knew a girl who had ghiddorah.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 05:32 PM (hpngP)

120 Monty quoted the Bible. That makes him at least a Level 10 SoCon. Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at January 27, 2014 09:31 PM (U+vgB) eleventy !!

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 05:32 PM (zELMe)

121 Heinlein had a similar observation in one of his books, and I later found the academic name for the concept was the "Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis" [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity ] -- which came up in a class (I forget which) one day, and the TA promptly chirped, "....now discredited, of course". Of course, like any other bit of academic groupthink, he did not bother to explain or illustrate any reasons for it to be discredited -- he just duckspeaked his doubleplusungood onto it and moved on.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 05:32 PM (T1005)

122 The dusky magician speaketh tomorrow night. Who will hearken unto his Ravenlike warnings?

Posted by: a guy named Poe at January 27, 2014 05:32 PM (2ArJQ)

123 Monty quoted the Bible. That makes him at least a Level 10 SoCon. Bonus points if he can name the OT book which John was paralleling in that passage. THEN he'll be a Level 14 SoCon (sex -10)

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:32 PM (yz6yg)

124 I wish the martian ambassador would show up tomorrow night Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 09:26 PM (t3UFN) He'll be a little lateÂ…

Posted by: Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century at January 27, 2014 05:33 PM (XvHmy)

125 Nice post Monty. Been really missing the Monday Morning DOOM, which set the emotional pace for my workweek.

Posted by: game time decision at January 27, 2014 05:33 PM (O8k6u)

126 Cthulhu, I encountered Sapir-Whorf in all places a class on computer languages. Because the words and syntax define how the language performs in handling various tasks like science.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 05:33 PM (DIg/e)

127 I would rather give myself a hysterectomy with a garden claw than watch the SOTU

Posted by: thunderb at January 27, 2014 05:33 PM (zOTsN)

128 Hammer minus 45 degrees here tomorrow am. This state sucks. Going to be below zero or single digits most of the week.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2014 05:34 PM (ef0iP)

129

Amnesty will cost $6.3 trillion:

http://tinyurl.com/m37pfnd

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 27, 2014 05:34 PM (BZAd3)

130 Oh. FUCKING OUTSTANDING. News has broken that not only has a second sex offender (pedophilia, of course) been arrested in my neighborhood, but both of them lived on the same block as me. I need more ammo. And some rope.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:34 PM (GEICT)

131 sven, the obama inner circle has the Federal Govt wrapped up so tight they fear no leaks, no disloyalty. And That is what is so dangerous about this obama admin. They can do whatever they want...and will be doing so soon.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 05:34 PM (hpngP)

132 I have been over at the Blaze and there has been a rash of religious articles which made me go read some Nietzsche. And it finally hit me. The Concept of God is dead to Modern Man, thoroughly dead. God used to be the center of Western Civilization for about 2,000 years and that is no more, has been since the 1800s. Without that pillar gone, what can we replace that pillar with? We say our rights come from God, but since God is Dead we have no origin for our rights. No reason to back them up. Where do we go from here?

Posted by: Holger at January 27, 2014 05:34 PM (rIk1N)

133 Monty quoted the Bible. That makes him at least a Level 10 SoCon. ---------- Is that all it takes? Joel, Chap. 3 9 Proclaim this among the nations: Prepare for war! Rouse the warriors! Let all the fighting men draw near and attack. 10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears. Let the weakling say, Â“I am strong!Â”

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:34 PM (aDwsi)

134 I had to look up Kinder Egg, since I had no idea what it was. The 1938 Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act contains a section highlighting that a confectionery product with a non-nutritive object, partially or totally imbedded within it, cannot be sold within the United States, unless the FDA issues a regulation that the non-nutritive object has functional value.[8] Essentially, the 1938 Act bans Â“the sale of any candy that has imbedded in it a toy or trinket.Â” Ah. The New Deal. The gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2014 05:34 PM (sdi6R)

135 BCochran, stock up on the eight-legged scary ammo....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 05:35 PM (DIg/e)

136 128 Hammer minus 45 degrees here tomorrow am. This state sucks. Going to be below zero or single digits most of the week.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2014 09:34 PM (ef0iP)

Its going to be a sauna here on Thursday. A blistering 31Â°F. And then the snow...

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2014 05:35 PM (LI48c)

137 Where do we go from here? *ahem*

Posted by: Gehenna[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:35 PM (yz6yg)

138 I later found the academic name for the concept was the "Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis" [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity ] -- which came up in a class (I forget which) one day, and the TA promptly chirped, "....now discredited, of course". Of course, like any other bit of academic groupthink, he did not bother to explain or illustrate any reasons for it to be discredited -- he just duckspeaked his doubleplusungood onto it and moved on. Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:32 PM (T1005) Sapir-Whorf is an interesting concept. I did not know that it was "discredited."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:36 PM (GEICT)

139 And the most prominent form of Newspeak being political correctness.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 05:36 PM (MMC8r)

140 Where do we go from here? Posted by: Holger at January 27, 2014 09:34 PM (rIk1N) Yo! see my homeboy BHO

Posted by: The State at January 27, 2014 05:36 PM (zELMe)

141 Chavez - ND? or, where?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:37 PM (aDwsi)

142 If the Kinder egg is banned when will they ban the Mardi Gras King cake? Sort of. You have to insert the Baby Jesus yourself.

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 05:37 PM (QupBk)

143 Which sounds like a terrible euphemism.

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 05:37 PM (QupBk)

144 Where do we go from here? Posted by: Holger Dust.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 05:37 PM (hpngP)

145 I mentioned before thunder girl asked where our rights came from. I said God. She laughed. Then said the government gave us our rights. I said no I have a lot of work to do

Posted by: thunderb at January 27, 2014 05:37 PM (zOTsN)

146 and also i wonder if George Orwell had any idea his nightmare would come from His own side."

He did. He saw what the Walter Durantys of the world were up to. This, more than the open communists, is what drove him to write "1984."

Posted by: MaxMBJ at January 27, 2014 09:24 PM (deaac)

I had not known that He thought that, Another insight i had missed,

ty ,ty

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:37 PM (nqBYe)

147 Why hasn't the prize in Cracker Jacks been banned yet?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:37 PM (DmNpO)

148 131 SoothSayer, They're as happy to be bound Gina Gershon in the Eponymous Film... I do seriously wonder if the 7-11% of the civil service not Donkey is ever tempted to burn his ass by going to a foreign News Agency? We'll see...tomorrow evening Barack Obama formally announces his dictatorship.

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 05:38 PM (TE35l)

149 Tell New Orleans their King Cake is banned by Democrats. Place will flip in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 05:38 PM (DIg/e)

150 141 Wisconsin the minus 45 is the wind chill. That's tough on the jimmy's.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2014 05:38 PM (ef0iP)

151 Why hasn't the prize in Cracker Jacks been banned yet? It's not embedded. But give them time. Once they define the public as dumb enough to mistake a paper packet for popcorn, they will. If they don't ban Cracker Jack itself because it contains peanuts and some people are allergic, so not FAAAAAAIIIIIR!

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 05:40 PM (MMC8r)

152 I'm talking the Entire Federal Govt. That includes All the top military brass...in obama's pocket. Read that again: The US military top brass is loyal to barack hussein obama, not by oath or patriotism but by concordance.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 05:40 PM (hpngP)

153 Damn you cthulhu. Now I have to read up on this . 'Whorfianism of the third kind', indeed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:40 PM (aDwsi)

154 Where do we go from here?

Posted by: Holger at January 27, 2014 09:34 PM (rIk1N)

There is a book about this, you know. Tells the whole story.

BEHOLD THE POWER OF THIS FULLY OPERATIONAL LEVEL 20 SOCON RATDEATHSTAR.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 27, 2014 05:40 PM (ltdV/)

155 147 Why hasn't the prize in Cracker Jacks been banned yet?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 09:37 PM (DmNpO)

Probably because like the cereal box prizes, they are only inside the box and not inside the cracker jacks.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2014 05:40 PM (LI48c)

156 Amnesty will cost $6.3 trillion

What difference at this point does it make?

Posted by: 190 Trillion Unfunded Liabilities at January 27, 2014 05:41 PM (3qZbZ)

157 Barry has a pen and he's not afraid to use it.

Posted by: huerfano at January 27, 2014 09:04 PM (bAGA/)

He also says the same thing about his dildos

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2014 05:41 PM (FE/sZ)

158 Amnesty will cost $6.3 trillion Yes, but we'll make that up on cheap lawn care.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 05:41 PM (MMC8r)

159 soothie not all....not all

Posted by: thunderb at January 27, 2014 05:41 PM (zOTsN)

160 ...tomorrow evening Barack Obama formally announces his dictatorship. and he'll do it with a smile!

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 05:41 PM (hpngP)

161 BEHOLD THE POWER OF THIS FULLY OPERATIONAL LEVEL 20 SOCON RATDEATHSTAR. You goin' in that exhaust port? I'm not goin' in that exhaust port. Boy be trippin'

Posted by: Trayvon Skywalker[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:42 PM (yz6yg)

162 do cereal boxes still have prizes?

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:42 PM (nqBYe)

163 132 Holger, The La Brea Tar Pits I'd wager... Drove by the black church I find so vexacious this AM dropping lad off.... They suck Obama's dick so hard he thinks Reggie is on an 8 ball of coke... "Klan Parenthood has 32,000,000 dead Black Babies on its soul." Yeah Pastor Dumbfuck they do.... And you're allied with them shithead .

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 05:42 PM (TE35l)

164 what about mickey'ds kids meals?

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:42 PM (nqBYe)

165 #24 The slogan of Oceania was IngSoc-- Newspeak for English Socialism.

Posted by: BubbaLou at January 27, 2014 05:43 PM (/cUUk)

166 Some day, when all the bureaucrats have been sent off to camps, the only recreational equipment they will be provided is JARTS.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 05:44 PM (MMC8r)

167 sven, well, remember the story of 'if they have ten good men'
yeah i know i missed a few steps but still.
per capita i wonder what the guesstimate will have to be.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:44 PM (nqBYe)

168 Klanned Parenthood is a nice turn of phrase, Sven.

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 05:45 PM (QupBk)

169 There's another, imo slightly more potent, moment in the Old Testament that testifies to the importance of "just words". When Moses prepares to go to the Israelites, who are enslaved in Egypt, he knows that the Israelites are going to want to know who sent him. So Moses asks The Lord how he should answer this question. The Lord's response - "I AM hath sent me unto you." (Exodus 3:14 KJV). Is there any purer statement of existence?

Posted by: junior at January 27, 2014 05:45 PM (zJePM)

170 Shouldn't there be a Monty cat photo included with this thread?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 05:45 PM (NU/ou)

171 mentioned before thunder girl asked where our rights came from. Our rights come from G-D, The Constitution, and are Maintained by big strong brave men and the barrel of a gun

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 05:45 PM (t3UFN)

172 Or maybe Black Sabbath - Mob Rules Better: http://tinyurl.com/cte9ko

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:46 PM (yz6yg)

173 That Dahm fellow from OK may be someone to watch. He handled that inane interview with Morgan like a pro.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:46 PM (DmNpO)

174

...tomorrow evening Barack Obama formally announces his dictatorship.

In so many words.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 27, 2014 05:46 PM (BZAd3)

175 sooth where i kind of gave up was Petraeus and General Ham .

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:46 PM (nqBYe)

176 Some day, when all the bureaucrats except Bannion have been sent off to camps, the only recreational equipment they will be provided is JARTS. FIFY

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:47 PM (yz6yg)

177 Sean, that train departed five years ago...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 05:47 PM (DIg/e)

178 Anyhow y'all have a nice evening... Raise a glass for me in the ONT

Posted by: sven10077 at January 27, 2014 05:47 PM (TE35l)

179 I saw the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis open for Journey in Atlantic City a couple years ago.

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at January 27, 2014 05:47 PM (9F2c1)

180 Piers Morgan has a name and a face that is just too twee and British. Some people are walking stereotypes. Cartoons come to life.

Posted by: BubbaLou at January 27, 2014 05:47 PM (/cUUk)

181 Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree now Farm Bill tries to combat food stamp fraud by requiring "more rigorous standard" for stores to be SNAP eligible

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:47 PM (DmNpO)

182 Keep holding your noses... We're deep into the pipe, but we are nowhere near the end of the pipe.

Posted by: Andy Dufresne at January 27, 2014 05:47 PM (Pr6hk)

183 Sean, that train departed five years agoÂ… We are a stiff necked people.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:47 PM (yz6yg)

184 LoneStarHeeb, i dunno i think after the next election, I am srsly hoping i've been filled with the same crazy the dem voters were filled with during Bush (BDS and fakey fake fear , and this is really not what it seems.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:48 PM (nqBYe)

185 Jamie Dupree tweeting details of the farm bill https://twitter.com/jamiedupree

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:48 PM (DmNpO)

186 We are a stiff necked people. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 27, 2014 09:47 PM (yz6yg) your Jewish?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 05:48 PM (t3UFN)

187 126 Cthulhu, I encountered Sapir-Whorf in all places a class on computer languages. Because the words and syntax define how the language performs in handling various tasks like science.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 09:33 PM (DIg/e)

I always thought it interesting that both commonly used words for "girl" in German were neuter -- maedchen and fraeulein. It explains a lot about Germans, actually.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 05:49 PM (T1005)

188 It was a cautionary tale, not a how-to manual

Posted by: George Orwell at January 27, 2014 05:49 PM (Pr6hk)

189 your Jewish? I'm from an obscure Jewish sect. Yes.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 27, 2014 05:49 PM (yz6yg)

190 I'm from an obscure Jewish sect. Yes. Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 27, 2014 09:49 PM (yz6yg) Known as The Way at one point, I believe.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:50 PM (GEICT)

191 Will he be giving out an 800# if we have questions about Obamacare?

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 27, 2014 05:50 PM (l0lja)

192 93 I always joke about Dan Rather saying "meadow" because he was once asked why he said "courage" at the end of every show and he said it was because his second favorite word and his favorite would have left people baffled.

His favorite: Meadow

So.... "courage" had no deeper meaning than it was his second favorite word.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 09:25 PM (DmNpO)

My least favorite word? Frequency.

Posted by: Dan Rather at January 27, 2014 05:50 PM (AeoJf)

193 Miss me yet?

Posted by: James from Plains at January 27, 2014 05:50 PM (Pr6hk)

194 sooth where i kind of gave up was Petraeus and General Ham . Posted by: willow -------- Hagel was the icing on the cake

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:51 PM (aDwsi)

195 "BEHOLD THE POWER OF THIS FULLY OPERATIONAL LEVEL 20 SOCON RATDEATHSTAR."

I had never thought about that.

After all, the Death Star is basically primer gray in color.

Primer gray, and menacing.

It's a perfect rat rod.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 05:51 PM (gqT4g)

196 Too bad DC isn't on a fault line.

Posted by: Lex Luthor at January 27, 2014 05:51 PM (Pr6hk)

197 willow, don't forget that other General Jackass who, after Ft Hood's Al Qaeda attack, said about diversity and not discriminating against Al Qaeda sympathizers: Â“Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think thatÂ’s worse,Â” --General Shitforbrains Casey

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 05:52 PM (hpngP)

198 My least favorite word? Frequency. Posted by: Dan Rather ---------------- Hardest hit- Kenneth

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:52 PM (aDwsi)

199 fnord

Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 05:52 PM (8lwDL)

200 Ken Burn's 'Prohibition' on at 1000

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:52 PM (DmNpO)

201 I know I can do a better job than Barky

Posted by: MT Chair at January 27, 2014 05:53 PM (Pr6hk)

202 What was the phrase that was suggested as a substitute for 'diversity'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 05:53 PM (aDwsi)

203 Hagel was the icing on the cake

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 09:51 PM (aDwsi)

it's rather stunning, isn't it?

pinch - pinch it doesn't seem i could have held all these people in such high esteem at one time.

and here we are.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:53 PM (nqBYe)

204
You people sound as is you are ready to quit on the country.

Did I read the conversation incorrectly?

Posted by: irongrampa at January 27, 2014 05:53 PM (SAMxH)

205 WhatÂ’s the word? / Thunderbird /
HowÂ’s it sold? / Good and cold /
WhatÂ’s the jive? / BirdÂ’s alive /
WhatÂ’s the price? / Thirty twice

Posted by: NCwoof at January 27, 2014 05:54 PM (aUQgu)

206 Hah!
NRO won't load if your browser won't accept cookies.

That's ok. Don't read any of their shit anyway.

Posted by: Flambeau'm all. at January 27, 2014 05:54 PM (GyG+f)

207 I predict the SOTU will be boring, and it will appear that the Preznit is watching a tennis match.

Posted by: Nostradamus at January 27, 2014 05:54 PM (Pr6hk)

208 Ft Hood was not a 'tragedy.' I hate when people use this word like this. Murder, especially terrorism, is not tragic. It is evil. It is Evil harming Good.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 05:54 PM (hpngP)

209 sooth, i had forgotten!

yes a low time for america,
unfortunately half the country won't realize it will hurt them also.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:54 PM (nqBYe)

210 One of the best and most succinct posts I've read here in a long time. Thanks!

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2014 05:55 PM (LIQGY)

211 I always wanted sonny to be a tin-pot dictator

Posted by: Obama Sr. at January 27, 2014 05:55 PM (Pr6hk)

212
I won't be listening to the dicktater in chief tomorrow, but dead on right Monty. I wouldn't put this bastard in the double speak category but I would call it opposite speak, he clearly intends to do the opposite of what he says, not just speech to confuse.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 05:55 PM (n0DEs)

213 I've never said these words out loud because I thought it was a fluke but, seriously... I just told my cat, Monkey, to go to bed, and he did.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:55 PM (DmNpO)

214 So, put me in the betting pool for guessing that this latest SOTU will turn out to be a giant yawn so far as audience figures go. Probably the lowest of Obama's presidency to date.

Even his fan base are getting bored. Welcome to Lameduckistan, the worst quagmire any President can ever experience.

Meanwhile, the Obamacare numbers continue to look utterly horrible in every regard. That will be the real elephant in the room -- or in the chamber -- during the SOTU.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 05:56 PM (gqT4g)

215 Ft Hood was not a 'tragedy.' I hate when people use this word like this. What FT Hood was, was preventable. This PC world killed those Soldiers and Civilians

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 05:56 PM (t3UFN)

216 Monty is wrong here. Words only used to have meaning.Now they don't mean a fucking thing.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 27, 2014 05:56 PM (E3y1i)

217 The preznit just needs to break a few million more windows.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at January 27, 2014 05:56 PM (Pr6hk)

218 irongrampa, I don't know about given up, but perhaps devastated with the direction and those we once believed in.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 05:56 PM (nqBYe)

219 Our rights come from G-D, are enshrined in The Constitution, and are Maintained by big strong brave men and the barrel of a gun Do not make me reach through the Internet.

Posted by: Brother Cavil needs to sort his socks at January 27, 2014 05:56 PM (m9V0o)

220 Did I read the conversation incorrectly? Posted by: irongrampa at January 27, 2014 09:53 PM (SAMxH) Not down here IG. Not now, not ever.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 05:56 PM (GEICT)

221 And when the Seventh Seal was broken, Jar Jar Binks died.
http://youtu.be/UbiQJp-gPQk

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 05:57 PM (DIg/e)

222 138 I later found the academic name for the concept was the "Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis" [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity ] -- which came up in a class (I forget which) one day, and the TA promptly chirped, "....now discredited, of course". Of course, like any other bit of academic groupthink, he did not bother to explain or illustrate any reasons for it to be discredited -- he just duckspeaked his doubleplusungood onto it and moved on.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:32 PM (T1005)

Sapir-Whorf is an interesting concept. I did not know that it was "discredited."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 09:36 PM (GEICT)

From the Wikipedia article: "As the study of the universal nature of human language and cognition came into focus in the 1960s the idea of linguistic relativity fell out of favour among linguists." You will note that I went to college a number of years ago, and that it seems to have gotten better in the meantime.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 05:57 PM (T1005)

223 Our rights come from G-D, are enshrined in The Constitution, and are Maintained by big strong brave men and the barrel of a gun Do not make me reach through the Internet. Posted by: Brother Cavil needs to sort his socks at January 27, 2014 09:56 PM (m9V0o) Yeah yup, yours is better. Thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 05:57 PM (t3UFN)

224 Tonight, at the supper table, my 85 year old Mom said that she was scared by our own government.... If that is not an indictment, I don't know what is.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 27, 2014 05:57 PM (84gbM)

225 Barry will tell you.... Reggie Love is The Word.

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 27, 2014 05:57 PM (Pr6hk)

226 BEHOLD THE POWER OF THIS FULLY OPERATIONAL LEVEL 20 SOCON RATDEATHSTAR. You goin' in that exhaust port? Posted by: Trayvon Skywalker at January 27, 2014 09:42 PM (yz6yg) Too Lewd.

Posted by: Maharomatic at January 27, 2014 05:57 PM (XvHmy)

227 Who will that dink insult at this SOTU?

Posted by: SCOTUS at January 27, 2014 05:57 PM (AeoJf)

228

@ 193 Dan Rather at January 27, 2014 09:50 PM (AeoJf)

"My least favorite word? Frequency."

-------------------------------------------

Is that you, Kenneth?

Posted by: William Tager at January 27, 2014 05:58 PM (U+vgB)

229 --General Shitforbrains Casey Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 09:52 PM (hpngP) "We certainly don't want to hurt our diversity" that Gen Casey?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 05:58 PM (zELMe)

230 And when the Seventh Seal was broken, Jar Jar Binks died.

Most hated animated character ever...Jar Jar Binks or Scrappy Doo?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 27, 2014 05:58 PM (ltdV/)

231 4 Does this man come in from the rats? And what price does he pay? And who is rent asunder?

Posted by: Percy Shelley

Bysshe please!

***

Yes! Badda Bysshe!

Posted by: RamaLama at January 27, 2014 05:59 PM (BYZzw)

232 Barry is going to be so distracted by the gay ex-basketball player sitting there that he'll wrap up the speech in a couple of minutes and run off with him

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2014 05:59 PM (FE/sZ)

233 Barky's accomplishments makes me feels like a winner...

Posted by: Roy Munson at January 27, 2014 05:59 PM (Pr6hk)

234 are enshrined in The Constitution, and are Maintained by big strong brave men and the barrel of a gun Do not make me reach through the Internet. Posted by: Brother Cavil needs to sort his socks at January 27, 2014 09:56 PM (m9V0o) I'm sorry... but while all of us big strong Men were off defending these Rights... in foreign nations... the Mom vote (those who would choose the Promise of safety over freedom) seems to have voted some of our Rights away...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 27, 2014 05:59 PM (84gbM)

235 216 Ft Hood was not a 'tragedy.' I hate when people use this word like this. What FT Hood was, was preventable. This PC world killed those Soldiers and Civilians Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 09:56 PM (t3UFN) When that manly skank what's-her-name said "man-caused disaster"....had I been there, I would have jumped up on my chair and screamed "It was a mass murder by another muslim nutjob, you fucking worthless cunt!" I would have done it for a beer.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2014 06:00 PM (LIQGY)

236 I was trying to explain to my sister today just how many of the ideas dumped on us by Big Government and spewed at us by their co-conspirators in the MFM were complete hoaxes or Straw Man Arguments. This piece did it BEAUTIFULLY. Monty, you hit another Home Run you Magnificent Bastard.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 06:00 PM (uCTK6)

237 From the Wikipedia article: "As the study of the universal nature of human language and cognition came into focus in the 1960s the idea of linguistic relativity fell out of favour among linguists." You will note that I went to college a number of years ago, and that it seems to have gotten better in the meantime. Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:57 PM (T1005) Hmmm. Well, to me, language is inseparably tied to culture and therefore absolutely affects the way we think and the way we view the world we inhabit. To what extent is a question a bit above my pay grade.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 06:00 PM (GEICT)

238 You know what really chaps my rear about all of this?

hhow may countries already exist with this progressive dream ? many , yet they couldn't go hang out at any of them , just 'hope' for 'change' this one.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 06:00 PM (nqBYe)

239 The SOTU is that I won't be out of my parents' basement anytime soon under this clown's economy

Posted by: Recent College Graduates at January 27, 2014 06:00 PM (Pr6hk)

240 Al Qaeda in our US Armed Forces: good. Conservatives and pro-not-killing-unborn-babies in New York: no good.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 06:01 PM (hpngP)

241

"are enshrined in The Constitution, and are Maintained by big strong brave men and the barrel of a gun"

You can enshrine my constitution any time, you big, strong brave man you!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at January 27, 2014 06:02 PM (U+vgB)

242 Like the word "Marriage" Monty?

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:02 PM (bb5+k)

243 231 And when the Seventh Seal was broken, Jar Jar Binks died. Most hated animated character ever...Jar Jar Binks or Scrappy Doo? Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 27, 2014 09:58 PM (ltdV/) Any character from Doonesbury?

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2014 06:02 PM (LIQGY)

244 I'm reminded of the whole 'words have meaning' meme every time I hear a democratic strategist answer a question on M. Kelly's show. They drone on and on and everything they say has nothing to do with the question and it is also all, in point of fact, lies and yet no one ever says, "you are a liar' and runs a tape to prove it. How many people simply stop listening to these people altogether? It reminds me of a good friend I had for decades. He would occasionally say something to me so demonstrably false and Left-speak that eventually I started gently countering his BS with facts. He would simply turn on a dime and start talking about something else as if nothing had ever happened. Eventually he had no cogent arguments for anything he believed other than that he had read things on Kos or PuffHo or whatever and we stopped talking altogether. His choice and not mine. Now he drinks heavily, his wife hides the liquor and he only talks to people who repeat the same things to each other. This is no basis for a thriving Society. This is DOOM.

Posted by: Daybrother at January 27, 2014 06:02 PM (hXDMw)

245 I'm sorry... but while all of us big strong Men were off defending these Rights... in foreign nations... the Mom vote (those who would choose the Promise of safety over freedom) seems to have voted some of our Rights away... Posted by: Romeo13 at January 27, 2014 09:59 PM (84gbM) Then it's a good thing all the troops will soon be home to straighten things out here.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 06:02 PM (t3UFN)

246 When a house accidentally burns down and kills people inside, that's a tragedy. Murder is NOT a tragedy.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 06:03 PM (hpngP)

247 I have to say I stumbled on this over at "American Digest" today, and I was suitably impressed. It dovetails with what Monty is saying. http://americandigest.org/140125-the-law-bastiat.jpg

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:03 PM (bb5+k)

248 228 Who will that dink insult at this SOTU? Posted by: SCOTUS at January 27, 2014 09:57 PM (AeoJf) The entire nation, as usual.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2014 06:03 PM (LIQGY)

249 Mitt on Hannity now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:04 PM (DmNpO)

250 Hey Barry, after the SOTU, could we get a little help here?

Posted by: Titanic Deck Chairs at January 27, 2014 06:04 PM (Pr6hk)

251 Pentagon fumes as Afghanistan frees Taliban fighters with 'blood on their hands' ???? And the idiots at State, The Pentagon, and The White House thought that with the weakness they are showing that the result would different how?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 06:04 PM (t3UFN)

252
   Long time ago I took an oath--just as so many of you here have.

   There is no expiration date on it. We are BOUND by it.

   Those who did not take the oath are as strictly bound to it by virtue of being free people.

    Fulfilling that oath does not always mean picking up a weapon. THAT is the very last resort.

    We CAN and WILL restore the country to what it is yet, under the layer of filth laid on it.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 27, 2014 06:04 PM (SAMxH)

253 Hmmm. Well, to me, language is inseparably tied to culture and therefore absolutely affects the way we think and the way we view the world we inhabit. To what extent is a question a bit above my pay grade. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 10:00 PM (GEICT) I've noticed that the "Anglosphere" tends to look at world issues in a similar manner, while the non English speaking nations often end up with the contrarian perspective.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:05 PM (bb5+k)

254 Words still have meaning, and Obama is still a lying POS bullshit artist.

Posted by: Chris M at January 27, 2014 06:05 PM (4lyMJ)

255 sooth true, those that knew chose to duck their heads and not take any responsibility for the guy they Knew was a wack job.

because . hard. and do not want to put their pension in danger.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 06:05 PM (nqBYe)

256

Deeply insightful, Monty. I consider myself an Orwell disciple, at least insofar as he wrestled with language and its use by men who would make slaves of us.

I hate postmodernism and its nihilistic, hateful undercurrents, especially its impact on the arts. A postmodernist artist looks at, say, Michelangelo's 'David', for example, and shrugs, and says, 'So what?' Followed, of course, by an hours-long boorish dissertation in unintelligible artspeak on the meaninglessness of it all. And he does this, I think, out of plain old envy. All of them do. If there is no good or bad art, then all art is equal; thus, that piece of shit performance piece of his is as "good" (always with scare quotes) as anything painted, sculpted, written, composed or said by any of those dead, white, patriarchal bastards whose talents he knows down deep he doesn't and can never hope to possess.

Posted by: troyriser at January 27, 2014 06:05 PM (ptcFO)

257 We CAN and WILL restore the country to what it is yet, under the layer of filth laid on it. Posted by: irongrampa at January 27, 2014 10:04 PM (SAMxH) From your fingers to G-D's ears

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 06:05 PM (t3UFN)

258 250 Mitt on Hannity now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 10:04 PM (DmNpO)

Tell me more!

Posted by: Bwarney Fwank at January 27, 2014 06:06 PM (Pr6hk)

259 Mitt on Hannity now Fuckin' Romney.

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 06:06 PM (QupBk)

260 There will be a victim.of Ft Hood at the STFU tomorrow. He can't get proper treatment because, get this, his injuries were deemed the result of 'workplace violence.' Peter King, btw, fuck you you obama water carrying piece of shit. You're anti-terror, my ass.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 06:06 PM (hpngP)

261 Monty, you hit another Home Run you Magnificent Bastard. Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 10:00 PM (uCTK6) Indeed, that is a piece of thought provoking writing that was well worth the read.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:07 PM (bb5+k)

262 Clownfuckers the lot of them.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 27, 2014 06:07 PM (ef0iP)

263 File this under chutzpah or being Marie Antoinette oblivious

Michelle asks people to donate $10 to save 404Care
http://tinyurl.com/muzu3cp

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:08 PM (DIg/e)

264 Romney going off on Putin, says Obama is better than Putin, but that Obama has been out-maneuvered by him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:09 PM (DmNpO)

265 There is (or at least was,, back in the '60s) a tribe somewhere in the South Pacific (Melanesia I believe) that had the most primitive language that anthropologists had ever encountered. They had only something 500 or 600 words TOTAL in their vocabulary. They did not have the concept of subsidiary clauses, such that every sentence had to be a single declarative statement with no modifying clauses of any kind (unlike this one). Strangest of all was their counting system, which had just four numbers: One Two Three Many There were several questions surrounding this tribe and their language (forgive me if I can't recall their name -- I haven't studied them since my college days), but most of all was: Do they have a limited language because they are (to strip away all PC euphemisms) stupid, or are they stupid because they have a limited language??? Oh, I forgot to mention: They scored absolutely abysmally on IQ tests (even the non-verbal kind). Like, in the 50s and 60s (which at that time was the same level as [again with the un-PC] "profoundly retarded." So some anthropologists tried an experiment: they taught some of them English, and also tried to teach them basic math. Result? Disaster. The tribespeople took the English words and created a new type of "pidgin" which had the same primitive grammar as their original language, just with new words substituted. And the math experiment was even worse. They could not even begin to comprehend basic arithmetic. Any sum or result beyond three remained beyond their comprehension. Forever. I don't remember if the westerners went so far beyond anthropological ethics to teach young children from the tribe math and English, which would have been more revealing since young minds are more pliable. But in the end the conclusion to be made from this is that there is no obvious "chicken or egg" in this cause and effect: It is likely a circular logico-evolutionary downward spiral where some smidgin or original stupidity lead to a primitive language which lead to a situation where advanced intellectual thought was not valued nor provided any social or evolutionary benefit, which lead to more stupid kids being born, and down through the generations. (This of course is in stark contrast to Hebraic/Jewish culture which, as Genesis reveals, was EXTREMELY language-centric, and in which complex intellectual achievements were valued, which lead to an upward spiral of intelligence in the population, leading to the high-IQ Jews of today.) Orwell predicted and Stalin and the Obama-ites enacted that if we purposely impoverish our language we can create new generations of easily controlled morons. Which, I believe, is their goal.

Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2014 06:09 PM (+cx5n)

266 Pentagon fumes as Afghanistan frees Taliban fighters with 'blood on their hands'

????

And the idiots at State, The Pentagon, and The White House thought that with the weakness they are showing that the result would different how?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 10:04 PM (t3UFN)

because they actually Believe all those folks they hung around down the block (and in other countries)were just thwarted , and mean because of ..america! the west whatever excuse .

not just that they are mean and repulsive terrorists countries that even will kill

their own for any justified in their mind , cause.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 06:09 PM (nqBYe)

267 Then it's a good thing all the troops will soon be home to straighten things out here. Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 10:02 PM (t3UFN) You joke, but I have been contemplating this very thing for quite awhile now. No worries about missing military ballots when the voter isn't absent. Also, I can think of nothing more beneficial to the cause than former Military people here in their homeland and mad at the corrupt leadership.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:09 PM (bb5+k)

268 More from Bastiat: "But, unfortunately, law by no means confines itself to its proper functions. And when it has exceeded its proper functions, it has not done so merely in some inconsequential and debatable matters. The law has gone further than this; it has acted in direct opposition to its own purpose. The law has been used to destroy its own objective: It has been applied to annihilating the justice that it was supposed to maintain; to limiting and destroying rights which its real purpose was to respect. The law has placed the collective force at the disposal of the unscrupulous who wish, without risk, to exploit the person, liberty, and property of others. It has converted plunder into a right, in order to protect plunder. And it has converted lawful defense into a crime, in order to punish lawful defense. "

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 06:11 PM (aDwsi)

269 mevergiveup, they've been arming those types.
i reallybelieve this is what syria, lybia benghazi are about.

just like fast and furious. people don't matter .
Their Cause de jure does.

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 06:11 PM (nqBYe)

270 I am happy to say I haven't listened to that liar give a speech/presser in probably over a year. I don't intend on breaking that streak until he's weeping on his way out of the Oval Office in shame.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at January 27, 2014 06:11 PM (E8IHS)

271 See? This is why Mitt lost. He's out of touch. Nobody gives a shit about Putin. People care about paychecks and their daily miserable grinds.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 06:12 PM (hpngP)

272 I can think of nothing more beneficial to the cause than former Military people here in their homeland and mad at the corrupt leadership. Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 10:09 PM (bb5+k) Yeah well on a serious note, don't depend on them. When they come home, they usually have other concerns.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 06:12 PM (t3UFN)

273 268 Also, I can think of nothing more beneficial to the cause than former Military people here in their homeland and mad at the corrupt leadership. Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 10:09 PM (bb5+k)
Bonus Army?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2014 06:12 PM (F75MN)

274 I am offended. You will have to stop using all those words that offend me.

Posted by: jc at January 27, 2014 06:12 PM (PlzOe)

275 farm bill: Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree 14s Stores must stock "at a minimum, seven food items in each of the staple food categories to be eligible" Fat load of ckuf that does. Does the bill require that the recipients actually PURCHASE staples?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:12 PM (DmNpO)

276 265 Romney going off on Putin, says Obama is better than Putin, but that Obama has been out-maneuvered by him. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 10:09 PM (DmNpO) I can think of no manner in which Obama is better than Putin. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin even has more vested interest in the well being of our nation than does Obama.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:13 PM (bb5+k)

277 Well, there is the old puzzle about a tree falling in a forest. Words need to be heard, too.

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2014 06:13 PM (AO9UG)

278 See? This is why Mitt lost. He's out of touch. Nobody gives a shit about Putin. People care about paychecks and their daily miserable grinds. *** I came in late but I think it came up because of the Olympics.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:13 PM (DmNpO)

279 See? This is why Mitt lost. He's out of touch.

IRS on line one.

Every absentee ballot ever on line two.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 27, 2014 06:13 PM (7ItWM)

280 No worries about missing military ballots when the voter isn't absent. Also, I can think of nothing more beneficial to the cause than former Military people here in their homeland and mad at the corrupt leadership. Posted by: D-Lamp I too have this wonderment and hope.

Posted by: Daybrother at January 27, 2014 06:14 PM (JSHi0)

281 And pills Sooth. Don't forget about the fcuking pills.

Posted by: A foretaste at January 27, 2014 06:14 PM (dvRYt)

282 Are there going to be prop "honored guests" sitting with Mooch? I am so sick of that "tradition". Were I ever Preznjnt, that would be one of the first "symbolic" things to go, primarily because I'd revert to past practice of sending up the SOTU address to Congress and letting clerks of the respective houses read it aloud.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at January 27, 2014 06:14 PM (x0jsg)

283 "until he's weeping on his way out of the Oval Office in shame."

he has no shame, no capability for it, for he is perfection.
IF ...that's IF we can get him out of the White House he will be kicking and screaming and leaving bloody finger prints on the door jam.

Posted by: Flambeau'm all. at January 27, 2014 06:15 PM (GyG+f)

284 Romney going off on Putin, says Obama is better than Putin, but that Obama has been out-maneuvered by him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 10:09 PM

Better at what? Breakdancing? Help me out here.

Posted by: otho at January 27, 2014 06:15 PM (9gNQd)

285 Are there going to be prop "honored guests" sitting with Mooch? I am so sick of that "tradition". Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling StarsÂ™ at January 27, 2014 10:14 PM (x0jsg) Yup. The gay ex-NBA guy who says he was cut because he's gay.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 06:15 PM (GEICT)

286 I was thinking more of the Weirding modules, from Dune, thoughts turned into weapons.

Posted by: leonard pinth garnell at January 27, 2014 06:15 PM (Jsiw/)

287 Are there going to be prop "honored guests" sitting with Mooch? I am so sick of that "tradition". **** Yes. And from what I understand, McMorris-Rogers will have props of her own.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:16 PM (DmNpO)

288 I can think of no manner in which Obama is better than Putin. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin even has more vested interest in the well being of our nation than does Obama. Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 10:13 PM (bb5+k) Putin is helping the Christians in Syria more than the US is. There are/were alot of ethnic Russins in Sryia as part of the cold war

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 06:16 PM (zELMe)

289 Yup. The gay ex-NBA guy who says he was cut because he's gay. Posted by: BCochran ---- say..., didn't the same thing happen to Barky in high school? Perhaps I got that wrong.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 06:16 PM (aDwsi)

290 I understand it's because of the Olympics. But no one really cares about the politics of the Olympics, either. But that's all that Mitt has to offer...to talk about 'big issues.' Average Dumb People don't relate to that stuff

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 06:16 PM (hpngP)

291 Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 09:11 PM (nqBYe)

IIRC Orwell was a Communist and was writing about how the Communist party was in a satirical but accurate way.

Both 1984 and Animal Farm.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 27, 2014 06:17 PM (LSDdO)

292 (This of course is in stark contrast to Hebraic/Jewish culture which, as Genesis reveals, was EXTREMELY language-centric, and in which complex intellectual achievements were valued, which lead to an upward spiral of intelligence in the population, leading to the high-IQ Jews of today.) Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2014 10:09 PM (+cx5n) I have long suspected that a major component of Jewish intelligence was the result of natural selection because of persecution. The Jews have been persecuted for so long that only the sharpest minds could survive. The more foolish fell to the animosity.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:17 PM (bb5+k)

293 I suggest no one listen to it. Even those who are paid to listen to it.

Posted by: eman at January 27, 2014 06:17 PM (AO9UG)

294 283 Are there going to be prop "honored guests" sitting with Mooch? I am so sick of that "tradition".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling StarsÂ™ at January 27, 2014 10:14 PM (x0jsg)
Maybe a shout out to Joe Medicine Crow.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2014 06:17 PM (F75MN)

295 Since this is a Smart Military blog, wtf is Romney talking about Russia for? Is Jihad now not a word in our New Speak?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 06:18 PM (zELMe)

296 So what happens if the Ukrainian riots over run Sochi?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:18 PM (DIg/e)

297 269 More from Bastiat: Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 10:11 PM (aDwsi) Damn prophetic he was.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:18 PM (bb5+k)

298 Yup. The gay ex-NBA guy who says he was cut because he's gay. Michelle's a big fan of grievance theater.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 06:18 PM (MMC8r)

299 So what happens if the Ukrainian riots over run Sochi? Posted by: Anna ----------- A new Olympic 'sport' will have been spawned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 06:19 PM (aDwsi)

300 271 I am happy to say I haven't listened to that liar give a speech/presser in probably over a year. Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at January 27, 2014 10:11 PM (E8IHS) Ever.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:19 PM (bb5+k)

301 I don't think to much about Rodger Clemens anymore for the same reason I don't speak about Romney anymore: Neither one is of any use to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 06:19 PM (t3UFN)

302 D-Lamp - The guy is a remarkable read.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 06:19 PM (aDwsi)

303 Yeah well on a serious note, don't depend on them. When they come home, they usually have other concerns. Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 10:12 PM (t3UFN) I have little doubt that employment will be first among them. Once again, reason to suspect they will be a little pissed off at the environment Obama has created for them.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:20 PM (bb5+k)

304 IIRC Orwell was a Communist and was writing about how the Communist party was in a satirical but accurate way. I thought he was a socialist, but an anti-communist.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 06:20 PM (MMC8r)

305 SOTU should be STFU

Posted by: Mr Wolf at January 27, 2014 06:20 PM (Kfm4G)

306 http://tinyurl.com/lxj8ycf Above is from Powerline Blog preview of tomorrowÂ’s SOTU. An Empty Suit with an Empty Speech. It is short and funny!

Posted by: Carol at January 27, 2014 06:21 PM (z4WKX)

307 Bonus Army? Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2014 10:12 PM (F75MN) Better, I hope.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:21 PM (bb5+k)

308 I was thinking more of the Weirding modules, from Dune, thoughts turned into weapons. In fairness, Barry's name is an economy killing word.

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 06:21 PM (QupBk)

309 And Romney is once again wrong. Just like him stupidly declaring that Obama was a "good person." No Mitt, Obama is not better than Putin. You see Putin is engaging in all this shit because it will increase the power and influence of Russia. Everything Obama does is to tear down and diminish the US.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2014 06:21 PM (LI48c)

310 Bysshe please! Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 27, 2014 09:07 PM (cxs6V) *Golf clap* Good job, kid. Here's a cup of cocoa!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2014 06:21 PM (oFCZn)

311 I have little doubt that employment will be first among them. Once again, reason to suspect they will be a little pissed off at the environment Obama has created for them. Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 10:20 PM (bb5+k) Well yeah that also, but not all of them come back fully adjusted. It's not always a smooth transition for them. That is taking up more and more of our time now a days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 06:21 PM (t3UFN)

312 Jobs! Laser-like focus!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 06:22 PM (aDwsi)

313 I believe Putin loves his country.

Posted by: toby928© at January 27, 2014 06:22 PM (QupBk)

314 Actually Putin was recently reported to have said that since the USA is sliding into a failed free Country it is up to Russia to pick up the torch or some such. Sounded kind of nice and noble until you think about what Putin actually is. Talk about Orwellian and word play...

Posted by: Daybrother at January 27, 2014 06:22 PM (m4Yvw)

315 Putin is helping the Christians in Syria more than the US is. There are/were alot of ethnic Russins in Sryia as part of the cold war Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 10:16 PM (zELMe) You make my point.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:22 PM (bb5+k)

316 Niedermeyer's Dead Horse: "Romney going off on Putin, says Obama is better than Putin, but that Obama has been out-maneuvered by him."

Who has actually, as fact, done more damage to this country: Putin or Obama?

Romney really not need modify his language. Obama is, by definition and default, strategically placed to cause more damage.

Recall Obama saying to Team Russia to wait until after the election afterwhich he'll have "more flexibility".

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 06:23 PM (eHIJJ)

317 >>We CAN and WILL restore the country to what it is yet, under the layer of filth laid on it. Posted by: irongrampa at January 27, 2014 10:04 PM (SAMxH) Took the same oath, and when I think about the Fraud in Chief and The Traitor John Roberts screwing it up at Jugears' first inaugural to the point that hey had to fudge it again indoors afterwards, I feel an anger that causes physical tremors.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 06:23 PM (h2dMS)

318 Romney going off on Putin, says Obama is better than Putin, but that Obama has been out-maneuvered by him.

and another prime example of why Romney never should have been the candidate. he fundamentally doesn't understand politics. or the evil of leftists.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 06:24 PM (n0DEs)

319 good point, buzzion As ngu said, Mitt is useless.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 06:24 PM (hpngP)

320 Barry can only dream of having a jump shot as good as mine. Or golf swing. Or umbrella operation. Or... oh, you get the picture.

Posted by: Putin at January 27, 2014 06:25 PM (AeoJf)

321 Orwell predicted and Stalin and the Obama-ites enacted that if we purposely impoverish our language we can create new generations of easily controlled morons. Which, I believe, is their goal. Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2014 10:09 PM (+cx5n) Stop, Zombie; you're scaring me. Seriously, I've been amazed at what passes for reasoning these last couple of decades. And there's no way to persuade these people using reason.

Posted by: Mindy at January 27, 2014 06:25 PM (mQwL2)

322 I feel an anger that causes physical tremors. Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 10:23 PM (h2dMS) Well if it makes you feel any better, your not alone

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 06:25 PM (t3UFN)

323 I believe Putin loves his country. Posted by: toby928Â© at January 27, 2014 10:22 PM (QupBk) thread winner?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 06:25 PM (zELMe)

324 I'm pretty sure Putin considers Obama on the same level as he would a retarded child desperately seeking a Daddy..

Posted by: Daybrother at January 27, 2014 06:26 PM (50HUs)

325 As ngu said, Mitt is useless. Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 10:24 PM (hpngP) Good man. I respect him. But time to move on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 06:26 PM (t3UFN)

326 so evryone is announcing a speech from Obama tomorrow, I'm toasty, but also wondering why this is something ,, He seems to be on more frequently (seemingly weekly) than any President since my youth so why is This speech important?

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 06:26 PM (nqBYe)

327 and another prime example of why Romney never should have been the candidate. he fundamentally doesn't understand politics. or the evil of leftists. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 10:24 PM (n0DEs) And the same was absolutely true about George H.W. Bush, and to a lesser extent George W. Bush. Even Reagan didn't treat them like the evil people they were.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:26 PM (bb5+k)

328 John Roberts screwing it up at Jugears' first inaugural to the point that hey had to fudge it again indoors afterwards, I feel an anger that causes physical tremors.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 10:23 PM (h2dMS)

--

as an aside, it's interesting Roberts did both the inaugural swearsies to uphold the law with Obama and than Obamacare .

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 06:29 PM (nqBYe)

329 Got to love college book sales.

Principles of Programming Languages 2d Edition by Bruce J. MacLennan. 1987.

pg xxi Influence of languages on problem solving
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is a (still controversial) linguistic theory that states that the structure of language defines the boundaries of thought. While there is no evidence that the use of a particular language will prevent us from thinking certain thoughts, it is the case that a given language can facilitate or impede certain modes of thought. When applied to programming languages, the analogous statement is that while no programming language can prevent us from finding certain solutions to a problem, a given language can influence the class of solutions we are likely to see.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:30 PM (DIg/e)

330 It is very difficult for the civilized to deal with the uncivilized.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 06:30 PM (aDwsi)

331 I have long suspected that a major component of Jewish intelligence was the result of natural selection because of persecution. The Jews have been persecuted for so long that only the sharpest minds could survive.

The more foolish fell to the animosity.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 10:17 PM (bb5+k)

=====

Then, please pray tell, explain why they vote how they vote (statistically speaking).

Posted by: jc at January 27, 2014 06:32 PM (PlzOe)

332 Emotion vs Reason, emotion wins every time. Just ask any salesman.

Posted by: Aristotle at January 27, 2014 06:32 PM (AeoJf)

333 It is very difficult for the civilized to deal with the uncivilized.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 10:30 PM (aDwsi)

Depends. We dealt with the Barbary Pirates fairly well, but then, the character of our people at the time likely had a much smaller proportion of idiots than we have these days. If what I've read about the literacy rates of the time is true.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at January 27, 2014 06:33 PM (IPz9m)

334 willow: "He seems to be on more frequently (seemingly weekly) than any President since my youth so why is This speech important?"

It isn't except for the perfunctory performance of it all. It's now less than even that. From Obama, it's a lie.

Oh, for the MFM it's still a big deal. It's a chance to deify the occupant for a newscycle.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 06:33 PM (eHIJJ)

335 Bysshe please!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 27, 2014 09:07 PM (cxs6V)

*Golf clap*

Good job, kid. Here's a cup of cocoa!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

I'm glad I didn't hold my breath for the kudos. I'd be like blue now.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 06:33 PM (cxs6V)

336 It is very difficult for the civilized to deal with the uncivilized. *** Like that piece that was posted about it being difficult for a smart person to counter a stupid person because one can't use logic to predict their behavior.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:34 PM (DmNpO)

337 MikeHammer, dad told me once, "You act like an asshole, I'll treat you like an asshole." We need to start treating the Left the way they deserve to be treated.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 06:35 PM (xIbXe)

338

In the Ukraine, the people were given a taste of freedom and now they can't live without it.

We were given freedom as a gift and can't live with it.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 27, 2014 06:35 PM (BZAd3)

339 >>as an aside, it's interesting Roberts did both the inaugural swearsies to uphold the law with Obama and than Obamacare . Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 10:29 PM (nqBYe) Interesting use of the word interesting. Â…Â…I hope that this doesn't initiate an ONT Vortex where you get left behind however.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 06:35 PM (h2dMS)

340 We need to start treating the Left the way they deserve to be treated. Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 10:35 PM (xIbXe) What do you mean start? I hardly talk to half my family anymore and let's not get into former friends!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 06:36 PM (t3UFN)

341 Then, please pray tell, explain why they vote how they vote (statistically speaking). Posted by: jc at January 27, 2014 10:32 PM (PlzOe) Because the reverse is also true. Come to America, live in relative wealth and ease for generation after generation and guess what?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 06:36 PM (GEICT)

342 Principles of Programming Languages 2d Edition by Bruce J. MacLennan. 1987.

pg xxi Influence of languages on problem solving
The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis is a (still controversial) linguistic theory that states that the structure of language defines the boundaries of thought. While there is no evidence that the use of a particular language will prevent us from thinking certain thoughts, it is the case that a given language can facilitate or impede certain modes of thought. When applied to programming languages, the analogous statement is that while no programming language can prevent us from finding certain solutions to a problem, a given language can influence the class of solutions we are likely to see.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD)

Hmmm, describe civilization in Arabic, submission; describe Love in Arabic, rape and submission, describe family in Arabic, clan; describe peace in Arabic, submission; describe free-will in Arabic, inshallah; describe ....

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 06:37 PM (4JkHl)

343 Mike Hammer, the new Olympic sport being the Sochi Superfire?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:38 PM (DIg/e)

344 very long day today, don't know if I'm gonna make it to the ONT

must...hold...on...

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 06:39 PM (9GG/0)

345 It is very difficult for the civilized to deal with the uncivilized.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 10:30 PM (aDwsi)

Just unleash your NCOs

Posted by: Julius Ceaser at January 27, 2014 06:39 PM (4JkHl)

346 342 Then, please pray tell, explain why they vote how they vote (statistically speaking).
Posted by: jc at January 27, 2014 10:32 PM (PlzOe)

Because the reverse is also true. Come to America, live in relative wealth and ease for generation after generation and guess what?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 10:36 PM (GEICT)

Not to mention the dilution of their precious essences with shiskas.

Posted by: Gen. Jack Ripperstein at January 27, 2014 06:39 PM (AeoJf)

347 There's a word for this kind of abuse of language, and attempt to turn meanings into whatever you want them to be, to your advantage. That word is sophistry, and I think we need to bring it back into general use, because there's a lot of use for it these days.

Posted by: Cato at January 27, 2014 06:39 PM (i+Vw2)

348 329 John Roberts screwing it up at Jugears' first
inaugural to the point that hey had to fudge it again indoors
afterwards, I feel an anger that causes physical tremors.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 10:23 PM (h2dMS)
--

as an aside, it's interesting Roberts did both the inaugural swearsies to uphold the law with Obama and than Obamacare .

Posted by: willow at January 27, 2014 10:29 PM (nqBYe)

As an aside, it was Barack Obama that fucked up his first innauguration. I went and looked at Bush's innauguration and Obama starts repeating far too early (after his name, where as Bush didn't begin repeating until after 'Due Solemnly Swear) which is what threw Roberts off.

Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2014 06:40 PM (LI48c)

349 Mike Hammer, the new Olympic sport being the Sochi Superfire? *** #PutinOlympics Hammer and Sickle Throw

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:40 PM (DmNpO)

350 Then, please pray tell, explain why they vote how they vote (statistically speaking). Posted by: jc at January 27, 2014 10:32 PM (PlzOe) I can think of several factors influencing the 85% rate of voting for Democrats, but I think it's too involved to get into here. I will point out that last week someone made a comment in the threads regarding an aspect of this I hadn't considered before. He said he was Jewish, and his family came from mainland Europe as opposed to Western Russia. He said most of the Jews in the United States came from families who left Russia, while much fewer came from Europe because of the Nazi Genocide. He said that if we had had a greater influx of European Jewry they would vote more conservative, but he said Jews from Russia came with too much socialistic baggage from the very beginning. I don't know if what he said is true, but it is an interesting theory which I had not before contemplated. I know the Orthodox tend to vote conservative, and I also know their population is increasing while the Conservative and Reform Jewish populations are showing decline. Give it time, and I think we will make gains in that Demographic. I just hope it's not to late.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:40 PM (bb5+k)

351 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Just words...

Posted by: BigGator5 at January 27, 2014 06:41 PM (FcyWa)

352 333 Emotion vs Reason, emotion wins every time. Just ask any salesman. Posted by: Aristotle at January 27, 2014 10:32 PM (AeoJf) I have said this for many years now. Sometimes people ridicule the statement. Sometimes they think for a moment and say that's absolutely right. Emotion almost always beats reason.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:42 PM (bb5+k)

353 342
Then, please pray tell, explain why they vote how they vote (statistically speaking).

Posted by: jc at January 27, 2014 10:32 PM (PlzOe)

The socialist streek is strong in them because it can work for small, homogenous cultures. For centuries in Europe they lived as self contained colonies, it got burned in. Israel is a very socialist country, very socialist with guns and a sense of national purpose.

Posted by: Julius Ceaser at January 27, 2014 06:42 PM (4JkHl)

354 Thanks Mike, now have this image of Tsar Vlad Putin in a tuxedo, top hat, spats, and a snazzy black cane with a white tip.

"Putin on the Olympics,
Pretending everyone is
Jesse Owens in Munich"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:43 PM (DIg/e)

355 >>What do you mean start? I hardly talk to half my family anymore and let's not get into former friends! Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 10:36 PM (t3UFN) Left Mass and went almost 200 miles north to a log home and went semi-Galt as a result. And despite the national turmoil, have never been at more peace with my own actions.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 06:43 PM (h2dMS)

356 Emotion almost always beats reason. Emotion has a much lower threshold. It's easier to react than to reason.

Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 06:43 PM (MMC8r)

357 In the Ukraine, the people were given a taste of freedom and now they can't live without it. We were given freedom as a gift and can't live with it. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 27, 2014 10:35 PM (BZAd3) I find it amazing that we are effectively swapping cultures with the former Soviets.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:44 PM (bb5+k)

358 Oops left on my toga sock

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 06:44 PM (4JkHl)

359 Just think..... Sochi might be the Sarajevo of the 21st century if the shit hits the fan just right. Anyone else besides me think that something spectacularly bad is going to happen there?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 27, 2014 06:45 PM (jucos)

360 Because the reverse is also true. Come to America, live in relative wealth and ease for generation after generation and guess what? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 10:36 PM (GEICT) And this too. There seems to be a definite correlation between wealth and liberalism.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:45 PM (bb5+k)

361 Anyone else besides me think that something spectacularly bad is going to happen there?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 27, 2014 10:45 PM (jucos)

I certainly don't remember an Olympics with this much... foreboding.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at January 27, 2014 06:46 PM (IPz9m)

362 ONT is up

Posted by: Sam Peterson at January 27, 2014 06:46 PM (zELMe)

363 At work we call certain words "Weasel words". Generally I need to use them because I don't have a definitive answer. So "The failure appears to have been caused by..." "Data indicates...". I know I'm weasling, but am doing it because I am lacking information to make a definitive statement. These politicians know they are Ckufing us and the use all these weasel words to obfuscate their intent.

And this leads me to the Putin vs Obama image.

Putin rides a Polar bear to convince his countrymen to follow him through power (or fear).
Obama rides a Weasel to confuse his countrymen to follow him.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 06:47 PM (TI3xG)

364 Left Mass and went almost 200 miles north to a log home and went semi-Galt as a result.

And despite the national turmoil, have never been at more peace with my own actions. Posted by: ontherocks

They day the last kid shoves off -- I'm decamping to the farm. Only returning to sell this place off, and get sushi occasionally.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 06:47 PM (4JkHl)

365 Just think..... Sochi might be the Sarajevo of the 21st century if the shit hits the fan just right. Anyone else besides me think that something spectacularly bad is going to happen there? Posted by: Truck Monkey

No, but near there. Just outside of the heavy security cordon.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 06:48 PM (4JkHl)

366 about the only political speech I ever listened to was Reagan in 1976 (get off my lawn!) after his car arrived at his hotel in Kansas City for the Repub convo. I was a student at UMKC and lived close to the Country Club area (google country club shhopping district KC) and it was fun to wathc a national political convention. There were a lot of expensive loafers without socks. Lts of TV, anchors you sa on TV. Very coo for a country boy. Anyway, I watched Reagan's car arrive at his hotel, he jupemed on top of the car and spoke to the crowd for 30 minutes or so. It was obvious that this guy was a star. I knew nothing about him but he OWNED the crowd. Oblabla, not so much.

Posted by: free tibet, etc. at January 27, 2014 06:50 PM (jAc/f)

367 >>And this too. There seems to be a definite correlation between wealth and liberalism. Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 10:45 PM (bb5+k) Unearned, or at least not hard earned wealth, would spawn the gnawing kind of guilt that seeks comfort in the liberal 'saying good is doing good" BS type of non thought that is continually irrigated by the MFM.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 06:50 PM (h2dMS)

368 I find it amazing that we are effectively swapping cultures with the former Soviets.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 10:44 PM (bb5+k)

We - through winning the cold war - brought this about. I'm surprised as hell that what is happening over there is getting so little coverage.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 27, 2014 06:51 PM (BZAd3)

369 The socialist streek is strong in them because it can work for small, homogenous cultures. For centuries in Europe they lived as self contained colonies, it got burned in. Israel is a very socialist country, very socialist with guns and a sense of national purpose. Posted by: Julius Ceaser at January 27, 2014 10:42 PM (4JkHl) Socialism is actually a form of government designed as a very big extended family. That communist doctrine of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" is an exact description of how families are supposed to work. The only flaw in the theory is that degree of human concern necessary to make such a system work doesn't normally extend beyond the normal circle of family and friends. With Jews having been persecuted for Centuries, they probably feel a stronger familial/tribal kinship beyond the immediate relatives, and it is perhaps reflected in their political preferences.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:51 PM (bb5+k)

370 Anyone else besides me think that something spectacularly bad is going to happen there? Posted by: Truck Monkey ------------------------ Already has..., have you seen the uniforms?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 06:52 PM (aDwsi)

371 @361. Wealth, especially when you grow up with it, has a way of insulating you from reality... how business works, how people earn money, and so on. In the midst of not having to worry about important things, you obtain the ability to worry about all kinds of other things. Like how other people live their lives. Anyone who's ever struggled to put food on the table isn't that worried about things like gay marriage or global warming. It takes a certain level of idle comfort to be able to get worked up into a lather about things that don't pertain to survival and the ability to keep surviving. Insulation from reality is what makes being a Leftist possible.

Posted by: Cato at January 27, 2014 06:52 PM (i+Vw2)

372

Monty...nicely said!

One word that Barky and the Donks have destroyed, is....'Reform'.

ObamaCare was sold as...reform.

Remember that?

A 'reform' is supposed to be something good, and improvement over the current state of things.

We now know that their idea of 'reform' is, in reality, a clusterfuck of epic proportions designed to do as much widespread harm as possible.

Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2014 06:52 PM (Wq5le)

373 A very thought provoking piece, Monty. Thanks.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 27, 2014 06:57 PM (wNF3N)

374 >>Socialism is actually a form of government designed as a very big extended family.

>>That communist doctrine of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" is an exact description of how families are supposed to work.

Individuals in leftist totalitarian systems are fungible, leveled, interchangeable. There is no hierarchy. The Western notion of the family is an inherently hierarchical arrangement wherein each member has a distinct role according to their place in the hierarchy, and what is expected of them is to fulfill the responsibilities of that role. Hence the constant leftist struggle to annihilate the family (hierarchy) and replace it with the State (equality).

Jewish tendencies to go leftist in the last few centuries go deeper than that.

Posted by: kartoffel at January 27, 2014 06:59 PM (07vvi)

375 I'm sure Putin can speak two or more languages...while our idiot in chief thinks "Austrian" is a language. And is a stuttering clusterfuck of miserable failure when off the 'prompter.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2014 07:07 PM (LIQGY)

376 Socialism is actually a form of government designed as a very big extended family. A big family saturated with suspicion, fear and paranoia.

Posted by: model_1066 at January 27, 2014 07:09 PM (LIQGY)

377 Hmmm, describe civilization in Arabic, submission; describe Love in Arabic, rape and submission, describe family in Arabic, clan; describe peace in Arabic, submission; describe free-will in Arabic, inshallah; describe .... Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 10:37 PM (4JkHl) There is research on what the word "negotiation" means to different cultures. In Arabland, it means war. In the west, it tends to mean "competition" or a "dance".

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (E8IHS)

378 This looks like fun!

http://www.classicfirearms.com/mosin-nagant-rfile-by-the-crate

Posted by: ChrisP at January 27, 2014 07:17 PM (fIDtZ)

379 Here, here! I often get confused as to the meaning of common words. Just the other day I mistook one for the other, and oh, how we laughed!

Posted by: John Roberts - Traitor at January 27, 2014 07:25 PM (qYvEa)

380 Well said!

Posted by: and irresolute at January 27, 2014 07:28 PM (RqHWH)

381 >>Insulation from reality is what makes being a Leftist possible. Posted by: Cato at January 27, 2014 10:52 PM (i+Vw2) BINGO Â….and why using reality based logical arguments is useless with them, and why Monty's point about postmodern word changing sustains their disordered ideas and plans.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 27, 2014 07:35 PM (h2dMS)

382 Monty, A fantastic piece of which I've copied & pasted on my FB page and given full credit to you, obviously.

Posted by: gw mclintock at January 27, 2014 07:40 PM (peh9d)

383 He has a pen and a phone but no website.

Posted by: drowningpuppies at January 27, 2014 09:43 PM (012vu)

384 I got my undergraduate degree in neurolinguistics and I'm here to tell you that there are no reputable neuroscientists that take the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis seriously. Of course what we put into our minds affects our thought process to varying degrees, but the notion that words hold sway over the mental faculties that contain them is just not supported by modern biological research. In fact, it flies in the face of it. Whorf claimed that certain eskimo tribes, because they had more than 10 "unique" words for snow, could actually perceive and conceptualize snow in a way other groups of humans could not. Similarly, he claimed that certain indian tribes that had robust and specific vocabularies for various colors could in fact see a different spectrum of color than other humans. To a neuroscientist that breaks down to; the word that is taught to a child somehow (i.e. magic) causes the retinal ganglion cells to undergo a biochemical change that allows for photons of light to be interpreted in a fundamentally different way. This does not happen. Modern neurolinguistics seeks to better understand the innate mechanisms that we have evolved that allow us to learn and manipulate language in order to express our mental processes to one another. However, it is universally accepted among neuroscientists of all flavors that language processing is confined to specific areas of the brain, and that higher cognitive functioning can take place in their absence (damage, or complete removal).

Posted by: Mazzer at January 27, 2014 09:47 PM (UlP8O)

385 Very nice piece of writing Monty!

Posted by: Advo at January 28, 2014 03:26 AM (7vbG1)

386 "When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean Â— neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be masterÂ— that's all."

Posted by: Linda Roberts at January 28, 2014 04:03 AM (VPma9)

387 This, of course, would be common knowledge if you were a regular visitor at "Protein Wisdom" Of course words have meaning. It has been the lefts goal to to redefine meaning to their advantage. Which is why, as conservatives, we have an obligation to call them on it at every opportunity. IE; The Affordable Care Act. It is neither affordable or about care. That fact must be thrown in their faces at every opportunity.

Posted by: Mueller at January 28, 2014 04:30 AM (DAkK/)

388 It must be noted that to liberals, the very essence of reality has been internalized in a malleable and plastic form, so that thoughts, memories, reason and interaction, indeed every aspect of existence exists to satisfy whim and desire. The external world only exists to be the bricks and mortar from which to sample, construct and maintain the internal reality. In the process, these people not only destroy the truth of the real world, they consume it. If the real world is reality itself, these people lie first to themselves, then they lie to everyone else they interact with. They associate with each other only to the extent that they need each other to perpetuate commonly held lies and desires. They have no principles, indeed they cannot have principles. They are very dangerous when allowed to have positions of power.

Posted by: theBuckWheat at January 28, 2014 04:37 AM (nmcha)

389 First, the 2nd time.

Posted by: dogfish at January 28, 2014 07:38 AM (nsOJa)

390 I liked this last night, too.

Posted by: Null at January 28, 2014 07:43 AM (DuH+r)

391 looks around, clicks heels, i think i've been taken back in time.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2014 07:43 AM (nqBYe)

392 391 First, the 2nd time. Posted by: dogfish at January 28, 2014 11:38 AM (nsOJa) For a minute there, I thought I had missed this thread for quite a long time, judging by all the comments in it. I now realized that he copied the comments from the earlier version of this thread, so we're still pretty much in the new thread zone at the moment.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 07:44 AM (bb5+k)

393 Thanks for the bump Ben! Oh, and big congrats on the weight loss! Keep it up!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 28, 2014 07:44 AM (da5Wo)

394 Ahem: "This time however the barbarians are not waiting beyond the frontiers; they have already been governing us for quite some time. And it is our lack of awareness of this that constitutes part of our predicament." --Alasdair MacIntyre: After Virtue As they say, "read the whole thing."

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 07:44 AM (GaqMa)

395

Yep, not sure if it's been pointed out, but you can't have an opposing thought if you don't have the language to express it or for that matter, even form the thought.

Orwell made the point in one of the appendices to 1984. The meaning of the term "free" was limited to a sentence like "the dog was free from fleas." It had no political connotation in Oceania whatsoever. Smith couldn't think of himself as wanting to be free because for him, the very term "free" had no real meaning in that context. He might as well have said he wanted to be desk.

This assault on language has been going on for a loooong time though.

Posted by: @JohnTant at January 28, 2014 07:44 AM (PFy0L)

396 is it rude to go o/t at this point?

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2014 07:45 AM (nqBYe)

397

If a Word can mean anything, it means nothing.

And Obammy doesn't even pay the words for the way he abuses them. At least Humpty Dumpty paid words their wages.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 28, 2014 07:45 AM (4df7R)

398 Remember the Penis Mighter than the sword. Suck it, Boehner

Posted by: Sean Connery at January 28, 2014 07:45 AM (ZdA3v)

399 To continue from the last thread, what is the consensus regarding the Drudge tweet about having an exit plan? Ominous it is.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 07:45 AM (bb5+k)

400 As someone mentioned last night, Protein Wisdom has been covering this for years - if you use the Left's words you've already surrendered.

Are you Pro-Life or Anti-Choice?
Are you for Traditional Marriage or Marriage Equality?
Do you see uninvited guests as Illegal Immigrants or Undocumented?
And so on.
Don't use their words.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 07:45 AM (POpqt)

401 As an aside, it was Barack Obama that fucked up his first innauguration. I went and looked at Bush's innauguration and Obama starts repeating far too early (after his name, where as Bush didn't begin repeating until after 'Due Solemnly Swear)which is what threw Roberts off. Makes perfect sense for the narcissist-in-chief, doesn't it? He loves the sound of his name and he loves to say *I*.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 07:46 AM (7ObY1)

402 >>To continue from the last thread, what is the consensus regarding the Drudge tweet about having an exit plan?

Think he's expecting a politically motivated prosecution like D'Souza?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 07:46 AM (POpqt)

403 I don't use their word "Progressives." I call them what they are: Commies.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 07:47 AM (7ObY1)

404

"All you need to say is simply Â‘YesÂ’ or Â‘NoÂ’. Anything beyond this comes from the evil one."

- Matthew 5:37 (NIV)

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 07:47 AM (P6QsQ)

405 raising taxes = raising revenue. I hate that one.

Posted by: Mainah at January 28, 2014 07:48 AM (659DL)

406 And Obammy doesn't even pay the words for the way he abuses them. At least Humpty Dumpty paid words their wages. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at January 28, 2014 11:45 AM (4df7R) But union workers working under fed contracts are going to get a nice fat raise, so there's that.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 28, 2014 07:48 AM (da5Wo)

407 Reproductive Rights = Abortion
Gun Safety = Gun Control

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 07:49 AM (POpqt)

408 Are you Pro-Life or Anti-Choice? Are you for Traditional Marriage or Marriage Equality? Do you see uninvited guests as Illegal Immigrants or Undocumented? And so on. Don't use their words. Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 11:45 AM (POpqt) Amen. And don't use their Colors either!!! I'm referring to the usage of the terms "Red States" vs "Blue States." This was merely a tactic employed by the Propaganda media in 1992 to make Bill Clinton look less like the fucking communist bastard he is. Reagan's states were colored Blue during his elections. Historically the color "Red" was associated with Communists, and so we need to eschew the usage of the color "Red" to describe ourselves.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 07:49 AM (bb5+k)

409 "Fertility Management"

- Al Gore, theology school flunk-out.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 07:50 AM (P6QsQ)

410 Good stuff, Monty.

Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 28, 2014 07:50 AM (zEeUf)

411 Common Sense [something] = More state control over [something]

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 07:50 AM (POpqt)

412 Cheap beer? Check. Rotgut whiskey? Check. Stale food and unclean utensils? Check. I'm ready for the Recitation of SOTU. I absolutely refuse to consume anything of quality whilst listening to my intelligence being insulted by someone whom I didn't vote for and doesn't represent me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 07:50 AM (0HooB)

413

I'm not leaving behind my efforts on the dead thread as the last comment so whether you like it or not .

A Real Estate agent and a friend walk into a bar and order some drinks.

The bartender brings the bill and the Real Estate agent gives him the money.

The bartender counts the money and says , " Hey you're about 5.00 short"

The real estate agent replies, " No, that includes my 6% commission for bringing in my friend and him purchasing a drink. "

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 11:44 AM (m2CN7)

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 07:51 AM (m2CN7)

414

FWIW ... I think Drudge is just late to the party. You don't NEED an exit plan. You had best be STARTING the plan.

Not kidding in the slightest.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 07:51 AM (mVJPE)

415 Income Inequality = Income Redistribution (by the government, of course)

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 07:51 AM (POpqt)

416 (CNSNews.com) - President Obama has "warmed up" to using executive authority, and when he believes "he has the authority" to "make progress" without action by Congress, he will do it, White House adviser John Podesta told NPR Tuesday morning. "But he doesn't like to do this, does he?" the NPR host asked Podesta. "Uh, I think he's warmed up to it," Podesta replied, laughing. "And I think you'll see that across a wide range of topics, including retirement security, moving forward on his climate change and energy transformation agenda," said Podesta. If you like your 401k, you can keep your 401k.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 07:51 AM (fWAjv)

417 An older friend of mine went to school with al bore. She said he was the dumbest bastard she had ever met.

Posted by: NCKate at January 28, 2014 07:51 AM (Eed4A)

418 Hold on, I'm going to go find my pomo rant from the book thread since it's relevant here and I'm lazy. *scurries off* *scurries back* okay here we go: *koff* fuckyouderrida *koff* In which I rant about pomo literary criticsim: The thing about deconstruction as a literary theory is that it requires the recognition of a construct in the first place. Derrida and Foucault were rage rage against the light of not only the entirety of French history and literature but also the construct of the French language itself. Attempting to move their interpretative methodology to an alternate language structure, because, after all, deconstructionism is every bit as structured an approach as those approaches it attempts to supplant, does not work because those other languages do not necessarily have as formal of a structure. To steal from Paglia, the best deconstructionists in the world are the Marx brothers because film is a forum that lends itself to both formality of structure and the deconstruction thereof. Tarantino's entire career (and/or schtick depending on what you think of him) is based on putting a genre in a blender and pressing puree. Hell, the South Park movie is a prime example of the use of deconstruction to advance art. Bigger, Longer and Uncut is a Disney movie. It is. The beats of the plot, where the songs are located, what the songs are about, the arrangement of the acts, it follows the exact format of every Disney movie ever. Just. You know. Ridiculously profane and turning it on its ear. Deconstruction works in film because the structure of pacing and plot is pretty much universal. It doesn't in literature because the structure of written language is not. The point of lit crit is to advance the meaning of the work, not bury it under jargon. That whatshisname could autogenerate a submission to a journal and then get it published and no one thought for a second that hey something's up tells you all you need to know about the current state of pomo lit crit.

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 07:52 AM (VtjlW)

419 And her sister used to date Mitch so...

Posted by: NCKate at January 28, 2014 07:52 AM (Eed4A)

420 Jeff does some good writing and thinking at PW. Emily and I joined during the crazy Frisch affair. I lost my login info so I am now TheHeavyEquipmentGuy over there.

Posted by: backhoe at January 28, 2014 07:52 AM (ULH4o)

421 "including retirement security"

Oh, f@ck.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 07:52 AM (POpqt)

422 Exit to what? Like the aftermath of a nuclear war, who would want to live in it? I see a collapse inevitable at this point. So, you have three months of food and water stored. What are you going to do month 4? No, for me and mine, I will live like today is the last and leave everything up to the creator. It really is the only thing that keeps me somewhat sane.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2014 07:53 AM (32Ze2)

423 Think he's expecting a politically motivated prosecution like D'Souza? Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 11:46 AM (POpqt) For all of us, or just prominent individuals? Sure, I can see political prosecutions for Prominent individuals, but it doesn't feel right as being an accurate description of his concern. I'm more of the opinion that he is referring to some coming economic or perhaps political maelstrom from which we need to be ready to flee or take shelter quickly. I think this year may be the year at which all these decades of Government debt might finally collapse the dollar. That HSBC bank thing in England was ominous. I can't imagine a bank suggesting such a thing unless the managers were REALLY WORRIED.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 07:53 AM (bb5+k)

424 And who is rent asunder? Asunder? Mine went up!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 07:54 AM (ndIek)

425

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 11:52 AM (VtjlW)

Me no like read comment . Make me feel no so smart.

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 07:54 AM (m2CN7)

426 Oh, f@ck. Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 11:52 AM (POpqt) Exactly.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 07:55 AM (fWAjv)

427 >>"But he doesn't like to do this, does he?" the NPR host asked Podesta. >>"Uh, I think he's warmed up to it," Podesta replied, laughing. Podesta joining this administration didn't get enough coverage. He is Soros' no.1 acolyte and Hillary bitch and it should have raised red flags everywhere that Obama wasn't even going to pretend anymore, he is going full on authoritarian. The pen and phone shit is a Podesta invention and nothing more than political speech for fuck you, I'll do what I want.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2014 07:55 AM (g1DWB)

428

Bush lied to our black president.....

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at January 28, 2014 07:56 AM (OaVVy)

429 If you like your 401k, you can keep your 401k. Touch 401k's & see CWII.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 07:56 AM (ndIek)

430 Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 11:45 AM (POpqt)

I always thought "Pro-Partial-Birth-Abortion" had a nice ring to it!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 07:56 AM (o3MSL)

431 *bangs head into keyboard*

Someone just posted on FB they finally linked Adsense and Youtube to their bank account. And $3,800 was deposited.

Okay, what should I post to YouTube?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2014 07:56 AM (DIg/e)

432 Asunder? Mine went up! Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 11:54 AM (ndIek) Ass-under? just the way your mother likes it Trebek...

Posted by: Sean Connery at January 28, 2014 07:56 AM (ZdA3v)

433 Meals on wheels can't get their delivery van started. Who do I call to get some action here?? Who's gonna bring me lunch? and this damn 'phone I got from Obama is still on hold with the insurance help desk.

Posted by: Irma Starvin at January 28, 2014 07:56 AM (xCzba)

434 "And I think you'll see that across a wide range of topics, including retirement security, moving forward on his climate change and energy transformation agenda," said Podesta.

==============

Retirement security = government takes over your IRA.

Climate change = government takes over your daily habits.

Energy Transformation = Government rations your heat.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 07:57 AM (P6QsQ)

435 Definitely worth bumping, because apropos and because Monty always brings it. Just words, just speeches, hmmm who said that...

Apparently instead of having a traditional political backdrop for his coverage of SOTU tonight, Glenn Beck and his team are decorating the set to look like a three ring circus since it will all be one big silly show. Some poor employee is trying to get a live elephant for the broadcast last minute for it.

Posted by: LizLem at January 28, 2014 07:57 AM (BF+2f)

436 Glad you bumped this one backup.

Skipping the political aspect for a moment, I have noticed that for an old retired military guy, able to communicate effectively across many backgrounds and topics through the years, I have apparently become totally ignorant.

I can listen to a conversation, be a part of the conversation, or have a conversation explained to me by our teenage son.
And my take away from the conversation is totally different then his.

It's as if we don't speak the same english.
And I find the same thing taking place all over.

Words used to have definitive meanings.
Anymore, it's a flexible and constantly changing set of definitions.

And, I don't think it is by accident.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 28, 2014 07:57 AM (kFCo1)

437 Get your hands off my junk!

Posted by: Clevon /i /b at January 28, 2014 07:57 AM (5ikDv)

438 Well, I don't know what the Devil to do. I sure wish semantics was taught more in schools.

Posted by: backhoe at January 28, 2014 07:57 AM (ULH4o)

439 "Whorf claimed that certain eskimo tribes, because they had more than 10 "unique" words for snow, could actually perceive and conceptualize snow in a way other groups of humans could not." Oh come on, what do Klingons know?

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 28, 2014 07:57 AM (8Fa5Z)

440 If you like your 401k, you can keep your 401k. Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 11:51 AM (fWAjv) Well... ye know??? I saw very little outrage when they came after MY Military retirement... just the usual "I'm outraged comments' from the GOP... but of course, no fix as Boehner said 'he was not interested'... So.... remember that whole thing about they came for....

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 28, 2014 07:57 AM (84gbM)

441 432 Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 11:45 AM (POpqt) I always thought "Pro-Partial-Birth-Abortion" had a nice ring to it! Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 11:56 AM (o3MSL) "Pro-snipping spinal cord on Partial Birth Abortion"

Posted by: MikeH at January 28, 2014 07:58 AM (ZdA3v)

442

I quit my 401k and IRA back in 2009.

I knew this shit was coming. Everybody called me crazy.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 07:58 AM (mVJPE)

443 Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 11:52 AM (VtjlW) Eh, I dunno, Foucault's critiques of medicine move OK into other languages. The problem of course is that after deconstructing a social enterprise you have...well reconstruct. Foucault decided to decend into nihilism of sorts instead.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 07:58 AM (GaqMa)

444 To expand upon Our Queen's PoMo Rant... To even suggest that there are no rules, no absolutes, no right and no wrong is itself an insanity. It flies in the face of Reality, the Universe, Science, Maths and every other discipline upon which modern civilization rests. PostModernism demands you surrender your common sense so that instead of controlling your life, you give up that control to the people who posit this most absurd of ideas. If you believe in PostModernism, you are insane.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 07:58 AM (0HooB)

445 Me no like read comment . Make me feel no so smart. Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 11:54 AM (m2CN7) Pfffft. Also I really like your jokes in general but especially today. The TOTUS one was grand. Also just a reminder, BC volunteered as tribute to watch SOTU tonight on behalf of the Horde.

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 07:58 AM (VtjlW)

446 >>I always thought "Pro-Partial-Birth-Abortion" had a nice ring to it!

For years the MSM used the phrase "the procedure opponents call 'partial-birth abortion'" - but they never told us what supporters called it.
I guess they just gave up on creating a better term.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 07:58 AM (POpqt)

447 Okay, what should I post to YouTube? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2014 11:56 AM (DIg/e)

Corgis? Teacup poodles? Cosplay? Footage of Ewoks in natural habitats?

Posted by: LizLem at January 28, 2014 07:59 AM (BF+2f)

448 Link to Podesta article. http://tinyurl.com/kyyefur

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 07:59 AM (fWAjv)

449 Energy Transformation = Government rations your heat. Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 11:57 AM (P6QsQ) Ration what heat? I keep my furnace at 62F during the day already. There's not much more they could take from me

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 07:59 AM (GaqMa)

450 Well... ye know??? I saw very little outrage when they came after MY Military retirement... just the usual "I'm outraged comments' from the GOP... but of course, no fix as Boehner said 'he was not interested'... So.... remember that whole thing about they came for.... Posted by: Romeo13 at January 28, 2014 11:57 AM (84gbM) How long before Tricare is taken away? Because the administration is not getting the numbers they need, and I could easily see them being like "Hey! Look! A big pool of young, healthy people"

Posted by: Mainah at January 28, 2014 08:00 AM (659DL)

451 Also just a reminder, BC volunteered as tribute to watch SOTU tonight on behalf of the Horde. Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 11:58 AM (VtjlW) I'll probably watch it too, but don't expect to hear from me. I have to rant at the wife if I'm ever going to convince her we're heading towards disaster.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:00 AM (GaqMa)

452 The Democrats ‏@TheDemocrats 5s Three different GOP responses to the #SOTU are "symptom of the civil war that threatens the party." http://t.co/sbCdmODbWO

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:01 AM (DmNpO)

453 From Marginal Revolution: If you actually take a close look at the numbers, it turns out that of the people who identified as middle class in 2008, nearly a third of them now identify as lower middle or lower class.1 This is even more dramatic than it seems. Class self-identification is deeply tied up with culture, not just income, and this drop means that a lot of peopleÂ—about one in six AmericansÂ—now think of themselves as not just suffering an income drop, but suffering an income drop they consider permanent. Permanent enough that they now live in a different neighborhood, associate with different friends, and apparently consider themselves part of a different culture than they did just six years ago. - See more at: http://marginalrevolution.com/#sthash.xWTwdgDb.dpuf

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:02 AM (ZPrif)

454 *bangs head into keyboard* Someone just posted on FB they finally linked Adsense and Youtube to their bank account. And $3,800 was deposited. Okay, what should I post to YouTube? Midget Pr0n.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 08:02 AM (ndIek)

455 Words used to have definitive meanings. Anymore, it's a flexible and constantly changing set of definitions. And, I don't think it is by accident. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 28, 2014 11:57 AM (kFCo1) When I was a kid, a pregnant woman was said to be having a "Baby." Never heard the word "Fetus" used until sometime in the 1980s. Nowadays the word "Fetus" is common because the usage of the word "Baby" damages their narrative. The reason we are losing is because Liberals are much better at the PR war, being as they are emotionally driven anyways, they are better at insisting on and instantiating emotionally driven arguments.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 08:02 AM (bb5+k)

456 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:01 PM (DmNpO) Really I prefer to think of them as a sign of the big tent and wealth of ideas.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:02 AM (GaqMa)

457 Ration what heat?

I keep my furnace at 62F during the day already. There's not much more they could take from me .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 11:59 AM (GaqMa)

=============

When my dad lived in Moscow, I think he described a system where all the heat/temperature settings were controlled at some central station, and delivered to your home via them. There were no thermostats or anything, if I recall correctly. You just got what you got.

I could be mis-remembering. It was right after the Soviet Union broke up.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 08:02 AM (P6QsQ)

458 I'm watching it. The SOB always tells you what he's going to do if you listen hard enough.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:03 AM (DmNpO)

459 So, I guess we're pivoting from 'poised' to 'wind at our back.' And, Obama will talk about signs that "we have a little bit of wind at our back now on the economy," Podesta said, and what the administration wants to see done in the coming year to keep the recovery going.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:03 AM (fWAjv)

460 1/3rd of the middle class in 2008 no longer consider themselves middle class. And it's not because they moved up.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:03 AM (ZPrif)

461 I think the erosion of language these days begins with what kids are taught in schools.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 08:03 AM (RZ8pf)

462 Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 11:52 AM (POpqt)

The serfs need, no crave, "retirement security" administered by the smartest people in the room, on an income equality basis of course. So to be fair to those that were held down by the man and never held jobs, we need to rebalance all those 401k and IRA potfolios so we spread the wealth around.

Posted by: Caliph Barky O'Choomba at January 28, 2014 08:04 AM (o3MSL)

463 416 FWIW ... I think Drudge is just late to the party. You don't NEED an exit plan. You had best be STARTING the plan. Not kidding in the slightest. ITA. From your mouth to the Horde's ears.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 08:04 AM (7ObY1)

464 "The new aristocracy was made up for the most part of bureaucrats, scientists, technicians, trade-union organizers, publicity experts, sociologists, teachers, journalists, and professional politicians. These people, whose origins lay in the salaried middle class and the upper grades of the working class, had been shaped and brought together by the barren world of monopoly industry and centralized government."

Yeah, he knew who'd be behind it.

Posted by: Botec at January 28, 2014 08:04 AM (by0da)

465 Okay, what should I post to YouTube? Midget Pr0n. Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:02 PM (ndIek) Midget Tranny Pr0n

Posted by: MikeH at January 28, 2014 08:04 AM (ZdA3v)

466 Time for some bouncy music.
http://youtu.be/zpCgqaSr1G0

Maybe will first build a playlist of stuff already like.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2014 08:04 AM (DIg/e)

467 Also just a reminder, BC volunteered as tribute to watch SOTU tonight on behalf of the Horde. Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 11:58 AM (VtjlW) You know what? Someone gives me the keys to this place and I'll fucking liveblog the thing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 28, 2014 08:04 AM (da5Wo)

468 Maybe "energy transformation" also means forcibly ending our "addition to fossil fuels" - destroying the coal industry, smart thermostats so that our usage can be better tracked and taxed, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 08:05 AM (POpqt)

469 "Progress" now means less energy usage, more land off-limits to human development, and economic stagnation.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:05 AM (ZPrif)

470 NDH ... so did Hitler. It's something about their psyche. They can't resist calling their shot.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 08:05 AM (mVJPE)

471 rickb223 and MikeH.. eeewwww

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 28, 2014 08:05 AM (DIg/e)

472

RE: Deconstructionist post-modernism.

I have several times told the story about one of my university interpersonal communication classes in which the professor -- a big ole lib -- was waxing lyrical about deconstructionist theory and post-modernism.

"Look at that wall. If you were to knock it down, would it still be a wall?"

MWR: (internally) Yes. It would just be a knocked down wall.

"What if you chose to sit on the bits of broken masonry? couldn't you call them chairs?"

MWR: (internally) No. They are broken pieces of wall. We call it "rubble," if you must know. You may sit on rubble. You may turn rubble into furniture. But I would no more call a cinder block a chair than I'd call a Chesterfield sofa a brick.

It was the most laugh out loud bit of frippery in a class that was full of such things.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:06 AM (4df7R)

473 OT Nevergiveup Late last spring, retired general Peter Chiarelli, who had just finished his term as the Army's vice chief of staff, visited Carroll at the Seattle Seahawks headquarters. Chiarelli was expecting a pleasant meeting. After all, the pair had what important businesspeople tend to call synergies: ChiarelliÂ—who grew up in SeattleÂ—is a big Seahawks fan. His post-military work concerns traumatic brain injury research, a cause of some significance to the NFL. And both have plenty of experience leading groups of men on grand American stages. The sit-down between Chiarelli and Carroll started off normally enough. They talked about the team, and then about head trauma. Chiarelli, who commanded the American forces in Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom II, talked about the brain injuries he had seen there. But Chiarelli's mention of Iraq sent Carroll in another direction: He wanted to know if the September 11 attacks had been planned or faked by the United States government. In particular, Carroll wanted to know whether the attack on the Pentagon had really happened. ChiarelliÂ—who was the top-ranking Army official inside the Pentagon when American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into its western sideÂ—explained that it had. He said he had lost many colleagues. But Carroll didn't stop there. He ran through the whole 9/11 truther litany. "Every 9/11 conspiracy theory you can think of, Pete asked about," said Riki Ellison, the former NFL linebacker who now runs the Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance and introduced Carroll to Chiarelli. Ellison, along with Seahawks offensive line coach Pat Ruel, was at the meeting as well. "And he didn't stop at 9/11Â—he had lots of questions about the role of the military today." (Carroll does seem to have some fondness for the military. He lectured at a military-sponsored "conference on small unit excellence" in 2009, and last year Ellison connected him with Army soldiers at Camp Carroll in Korea.) Carroll isn't crazy, Ellison said. He's just skeptical. "Pete grew up in California during Vietnam, and during Watergate. That's just the perspective he brings to the table." So did the discussion last year turn hostile? A source close to Chiarelli, one who wasn't present when he spoke to Carroll, told us that it did. He said the general had to leave the room because Carroll had rankled him so thoroughly. Ellison told us that that wasn't true, that the discussion had remained friendly and "fun" throughout. A spokesman for Chiarelli at his foundation, One Mind for Research, did not respond to repeated phone and email requests. from deadspin

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 08:06 AM (zOTsN)

474 "Progress" now means less ~~energy usage, more land off-limits to human development, and economic stagnation.~~ FTFY.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:06 AM (0HooB)

475 Geeze, mid day, bright sunshine and it's still ten below zero.
Hah!Look at that, freezing rain in Etex. SLouisiana, South [um er that's] Mississippi, South Alabama, Snow approaching ATlanta..
hahahahahah

sigh.. gettin' damn hungry here..

Posted by: Somebody start a fire! at January 28, 2014 08:06 AM (xCzba)

476 Nowadays the word "Fetus" is common because the usage of the word "Baby" damages their narrative. The reason we are losing is because Liberals are much better at the PR war, being as they are emotionally driven anyways, they are better at insisting on and instantiating emotionally driven arguments. That's because today, people don't like to be the one to toss a turd in the punchbowl. (Sayer of accurate but un pc words) Don't bother me none. I'll toss turds.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 08:07 AM (ndIek)

477 NDH ... so did Hitler. It's something about their psyche. They can't resist calling their shot. ** They count on us either not paying attention, or not believing their audacity.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:07 AM (DmNpO)

478 It's difficult to read "SOTU" and not think "STFU"

Posted by: Raddler at January 28, 2014 08:08 AM (Xv7f/)

479 One term I will not use is gay marriage.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 08:08 AM (P6QsQ)

480 Be still and know that I am a commie.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 28, 2014 08:08 AM (Dwehj)

481 I quit my 401k and IRA back in 2009. I knew this shit was coming. Everybody called me crazy. Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 11:58 AM (mVJPE) As I keep shamefacedly admitting, I used to think the whole coming for 401(k)s thing was chemtrail crazypants. Now I'm shocked it hasn't happened yet. That's still my number one tipping point to a hot civil war. RE: semantics and Foucault as nihilist. Part of my background in philosophy is in semantics, semiotics along with an emphasis on Nietzsche. Foucault's works are a logical, arguably necessary, outcome of the implications of Nietzchean nihilism. I will say that I do think Foucault and Derrida, though not necessarily the lesser pomo theorists, offer some valuable insights into the implications and outcomes of situational morality. When you remove even the idea that there are independent absolutes, you end up with postmodernism. Of course, being a good little Bloomite, I would argue that all the pomos are doing is attempting to tell Plato that I have ideas too, Dad! I'm smart! I can think for myself! I don't have to listen to you, Dad!

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 08:09 AM (VtjlW)

482 You know what? Someone gives me the keys to this place and I'll fucking liveblog the thing. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 28, 2014 12:04 PM (da5Wo) Didn't the blog have a CoverItLive thing a while back? One of the Cobs could just post that and give you speaker rights.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:09 AM (GaqMa)

483 >>The reason we are losing is because Liberals are much better at the PR

They have the media, entertainment industry, and schools.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 08:10 AM (POpqt)

484

So ... when Barry drops the Retirement Security line tonite, what are you going to do ?

I know what I'm going to do.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 08:10 AM (mVJPE)

485 "And I think you'll see that across a wide range of topics, including retirement security, moving forward on his climate change and energy transformation agenda," said Podesta.

If you like your 401k, you can keep your 401k.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 11:51 AM (fWAjv)

the Dems have been talking about how unfair it is that some people have 401ks and IRAs and others don't for a while. Let's see how well that plays for the LIV (who work) when Barry tells them that their retirement savings are going to be redistributed to make it fair

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2014 08:10 AM (1Jaio)

486 I'm currently listening to... http://tinyurl.com/o5euxcn

Posted by: Mainah at January 28, 2014 08:10 AM (659DL)

487 When you control the method of transmission of the Word and the Words that are used, you are more likely to win.

And rather belatedly, always good to see a Monty post.

Posted by: Penfold at January 28, 2014 08:10 AM (Fbt5B)

488 I have several times told the story about one of my university interpersonal communication classes

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 28, 2014 08:10 AM (da5Wo)

489 Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 12:09 PM (VtjlW) I had a teacher once call me a "Late Modern" I responded "Bullshit, I'm a retromodern, I look at Postmoderism and say 'holy fuck where did we go so wrong that these guys ever thought this was a viable theory' then I try to fix those parts.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:11 AM (GaqMa)

490 You know what? Someone gives me the keys to this place and I'll fucking liveblog the thing. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 28, 2014 12:04 PM (da5Wo)

May the odds ever be on your favor BC!

I am going to a thing tonight, partly to make sure I stay away from TV; Preezy's inequality speech is going to be hazardous to my health/blood pressure should I watch it, thus remove temptation. But I will so check in on the horde via phone, you guys are the best. Only way I can tolerate the thing.

Posted by: LizLem at January 28, 2014 08:11 AM (BF+2f)

491 "Retirement Security"? You go first Barry. I could use some of your security. Spread the wealth.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 08:12 AM (P6QsQ)

492 So ... when Barry drops the Retirement Security line tonite, what are you going to do ? I know what I'm going to do. Drink!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 08:12 AM (ndIek)

493 How long before Tricare is taken away? Because the administration is not getting the numbers they need, and I could easily see them being like "Hey! Look! A big pool of young, healthy people" Posted by: Mainah at January 28, 2014 12:00 PM (659DL) I believe.... and have said... that putting Retired Military into Obama care was planned all along...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 28, 2014 08:12 AM (84gbM)

494 You know what? Someone gives me the keys to this place and I'll fucking liveblog the thing. *** I find I have more fun in the comments thread. Nobody is left out here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:12 AM (DmNpO)

495 I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I found this article somewhat wordy.

Posted by: Prolix at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (/cUUk)

496 Minimum wage post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (DmNpO)

497 How did the word "bougie" make it into "urban" culture? Based off of "bourgeoisie", a construct of K*rl M*rx, it's a common aspersion which means thinking you're in (or aspiring to) a higher class than you really are.

But how did it get there?

Posted by: Mega at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (hHFOx)

498 the Dems have been talking about how unfair it is that some people have 401ks and IRAs and others don't for a while. Let's see how well that plays for the LIV (who work) when Barry tells them that their retirement savings are going to be redistributed to make it fair Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2014 12:10 PM (1Jaio) All that money just sitting in retirement accounts can be redistributed to boost the economy. Fairness! Progress!

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (fWAjv)

499 what's this? Leftovers!!

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (UAzle)

500 Nude SCoaMF Thread

Posted by: toby928© at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (QupBk)

501 I had a teacher once call me a "Late Modern" Neandrathal?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 08:14 AM (ndIek)

502 Labor unions are behind the 401k shenanigans - they want their hands on that money.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 08:14 AM (POpqt)

503 I find I have more fun in the comments thread. Nobody is left out here. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:12 PM (DmNpO) I didn't mean that horrid thing they used during the election. I meant more of a post with running updates on the speech.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 28, 2014 08:15 AM (da5Wo)

504 "And I think you'll see that across a wide range of topics, including retirement security, moving forward on his climate change and energy transformation agenda," said Podesta.

If you like your 401k, you can keep your 401k.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 11:51 AM (fWAjv)

All that money, billions and billions, just sitting there. It's just too tempting for them.

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 08:15 AM (RD7QR)

505 Retirement security pffffft.

Shit, I burned through my retirement savings YEARS ago.

Posted by: Somebody start a fire! at January 28, 2014 08:17 AM (xCzba)

506 I didn't mean that horrid thing they used during the election. I meant more of a post with running updates on the speech. *** Now, that would be great!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:17 AM (DmNpO)

507 The perpetuation of the false narratives by the MFM, the academy, and Public Education,whether it be AGW, War on Women, AA and Reparations, PRO CHOICE instead of INFANTICIDE or FETUS-CIDE and so on, has been the single biggest factor in this country's slide into the abyss. Until that condition is dramatically altered there is zero chance of recovery. Leftists can't just be defeated, they must be permanently destroyed.

Posted by: ontherocks at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (Au+uc)

508 499 How did the word "bougie" make it into "urban" culture? Based off of "bourgeoisie", a construct of K*rl M*rx, it's a common aspersion which means thinking you're in (or aspiring to) a higher class than you really are. But how did it get there? Posted by: Mega at January 28, 2014 12:13 PM (hHFOx)

I first heard it on Glee *spits* but it must have stemmed from somewhere else first. I'm pretty sure the kids using it just think it means evil rich ppl, or grappling social climbers, they have no idea from where it really stems, the darker implications. Which just ties back into Monty's whole point of his post.

Posted by: LizLem at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (BF+2f)

509 485 >>The reason we are losing is because Liberals are much better at the PR They have the media, entertainment industry, and schools. Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 12:10 PM (POpqt) Because those are the sorts of jobs they gravitate towards. Conservatives tend towards the more tangible based work-products with the exception being security and defense. Liberals tend towards the abstract and non-tangible work products. Lawyering, Teaching, Acting, Reporting, etc.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (bb5+k)

510 I presume that by tomorrow this article will say something completely different, and more in tune with the aspirations of the ruling party.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (SO2Q8)

511 All that money, billions and billions, just sitting there. It's just too tempting for them.

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 12:15 PM (RD7QR)

They can't wait to get their hands on it. All the touchy feely BS works for the LIVs (soccer moms and beta male douches). Let's see how it works when they want their retirement money

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2014 08:19 AM (1Jaio)

512 One of the things that I notice missing in conversation is what I call measurable words.
For example;

Me; What time do you want to get up?
He: Early

Me: What time is early?
He: You know..earlier then last week.

Me: At what time tomorrow morning can I still see you in bed, and know that you are in bed later than you wanted?
He: I don't know.

-----------------------------------------

School Official: He is in danger of performing below standards
Me: What are the standards?
S.O: They are the scores below which his performance is not acceptable
Me: I get that. Is there a letter or number grade indexed to that point?
S.O: It varies

And on and on and ...oh look, a shiny object.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 28, 2014 08:19 AM (kFCo1)

513

But i remain imutable!!!

Posted by: Interpretive Dance at January 28, 2014 08:20 AM (SO2Q8)

514 Podesta's (Soros') CAP has been on the universal 401k train for years - see this from a 2006 NYT article: http://preview.tinyurl.com/l2qnn49

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (POpqt)

515 471 "Progress" now means less energy usage, more land off-limits to human development, and economic stagnation. The problem is one of attitude, perspective and memory. I have a National Geographic Magazine from 1912. A story in it recounts the U.S.' consumption of raw materials and production of goods and observes that both were very disproportionately large in comparison to America's relatively small portion of the world's population.

The writer recounted those facts with pride and as a measure of achievement; as a boast. He certainly made no apology for that.

But then he probably could remember a time when America was not the world's largest economy.

Affording to disparage progress is probably the greatest signal of luxury there can be.

Posted by: Raddler at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (Xv7f/)

516 512 I presume that by tomorrow this article will say something completely different, and more in tune with the aspirations of the ruling party. Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (SO2Q

Removing thoughtcrimes? My specialty!

Posted by: Winston Smith at January 28, 2014 08:23 AM (BF+2f)

517 You know what? Someone gives me the keys to this place and I'll fucking liveblog the thing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 28, 2014 12:04 PM (da5Wo)

That's the only thing that would make me watch it.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 08:26 AM (o3MSL)

518 I like it when they say "No one is pro-abortion". If you've never heard of an abortion you're against; not late term abortion, sex selection abortion, "right sizing" abortion, abortion for birth control, or minor abortion, then I'd say you pretty much are pro-abortion.

Posted by: Frankly at January 28, 2014 08:30 AM (Zjj69)

519 Wow, long thread.

I am hoping The One and His Teleprompter will Bless us with some Words of His own Definition and Choosing.

BTW, isn't the SOU tonight?

Posted by: Sphynx at January 28, 2014 08:36 AM (OZmbA)

520 I'm also hoping Katie Perry will appear on the House floor in costume and dance around with her broom.

Posted by: Sphynx at January 28, 2014 08:38 AM (OZmbA)

521 Sorry, my mistake, that's Nancy Pelosi's job.

Posted by: Sphynx at January 28, 2014 08:39 AM (OZmbA)

522 "There is a price to be paid for divorcing actions and concepts from the words that describe them. A number of years ago, I called this 'The Coconut Treatment.' http://tinyurl.com/kz5ns4a

Posted by: baldilocks at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (36Rjy)

523 The simple fact of the matter is that our country has been, for centuries, one based on the notion that Truth is actually "truth" that depends on the choice of belief of the individual. That is, basically, relativism. Though the concept of there being Truth clung to the West for a long time, the degeneration of that idea, that there is a Truth, a Reality (what it may be is a matter of faith, but there that there IS one that is NOT dependent on the individual) has eroded. Over the last century, century and a half or so, that erosion has only quickened. This starts with the root of egocentrism at the very heart of Western Culture, based in the accelerated emphasis of the individual in determining "truth" brought on by the so-called Enlightenment.

In other words, this development was inevitable. Once the culture, on the whole, abandoned the idea of there being one Truth for the sake of many "truths" (which started long before the so-called Enlightenment). The individual rose as paramount in the individual worldviews of people, deposing the notion of absolutes that exist, and originate, outside the individual.

Over time this gap invariably widens. And what we have now is what you get: an utterly egocentric culture. This is how you give birth to radical secular humanism, to "theories" like Derrida's deconstructionism that seeps back into the culture that destroys things like words having meaning that don't change with the person. These are all just symptoms of the greater disease.

Posted by: Patrick at January 28, 2014 08:51 AM (gc6KX)

524 Language and intent for over a decade.

http://ow.ly/2aMag0

Posted by: geoffb at January 28, 2014 10:51 AM (d3wbb)

525 I'm re-reading 1984. Large print version.

Posted by: Erowmero at January 28, 2014 11:59 AM (OONaw)

526 Bonus points if he can name the OT book which John was paralleling in that passage. THEN he'll be a Level 14 SoCon (sex -10) Genesis.

Posted by: baldilocks at January 28, 2014 01:06 PM (36Rjy)

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