January 15, 2014
— Ace From @rdbrewer4 in the sidebar, and recommended as a main post by @comradearthur.
I like everything about this except the part where he encourages young people to vote.
Then he suggests they pick up a newspaper once in a while.
I'd reverse that sequence. Pick up a newspaper, and then, after reading it for a year or two, then start voting.
I'm not sure if anyone besides the gasbags of the Sunday show has explained Obamacare's generational cost-shifting to the country. Kimmel manages it a couple of sentences.
Is this important? Somewhat, I think. As many of us here have observed, it's a major shift to see Obama laughed at, and not just Obama, but his supposedly For the Greater Good schemes. The left advances by asserting that it is both intellectually and morally superior to its critics; to laugh at Obama's incompetence and to attack him for swindling the innocent is to deny both claims.
More and more I've come to believe that politics is ultimately not about what people read, or learn, or come to believe after giving it careful thought. Politics is all about what people "know" without quite knowing how they came to know it.
Which is just another way of saying: You can't reason someone out of a position he wasn't reasoned into in the first place. The real driver of opinion is not reason -- it never has been and never will be -- but pre-rational things like What Everyone Else is Saying.
A somewhat smaller number of people now "know" Obama is competent and virtuous and honest, and a somewhat higher number of people "know" (closer to really knowing, in my opinion) that he is incompetent and dishonest and manipulative.
Transcript at the link. Video below stolen from Newsbusters.
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Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at January 15, 2014 11:39 AM (XVQhm)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 15, 2014 11:39 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: UWP at January 15, 2014 11:39 AM (2hQRj)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 15, 2014 11:40 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 15, 2014 11:40 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: Samuel Johnson at January 15, 2014 11:40 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Austin Powers at January 15, 2014 11:40 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: Young Voter at January 15, 2014 11:41 AM (nsOJa)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 15, 2014 11:42 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Have the HRC Designer Vindictivenous Line Exclusively! at January 15, 2014 11:42 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 15, 2014 11:42 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 11:42 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 15, 2014 11:42 AM (Qev5V)
Posted by: joncelli at January 15, 2014 11:42 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: The MSM, Now With 20% More Truthiness at January 15, 2014 11:42 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 15, 2014 11:42 AM (7ObY1)
Don't know who is doing them, but damn!
15 seconds of right to the jaw "Thank you LiVer" goodness.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 15, 2014 11:42 AM (GcYmn)
Posted by: Obama Voter at January 15, 2014 11:43 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: thunderb at January 15, 2014 11:43 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 15, 2014 11:43 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: The Narrative at January 15, 2014 11:43 AM (WSjlp)
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Posted by: Carol at January 15, 2014 11:44 AM (z4WKX)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 15, 2014 11:44 AM (IXrOn)
They probably didn't even get half the jokes.
Posted by: Marcus at January 15, 2014 11:44 AM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 15, 2014 11:44 AM (Qev5V)
Great point. Reminds me of this:
"Just tell 'em you're gonna soak the fat boys and forget the rest of the tax stuff...Willie, make 'em cry, make 'em laugh, make 'em mad, even mad at you. Stir them up and they'll love it and come back for more, but, for heaven's sakes, don't try to improve their minds."
-- Robert Penn Warren "All the King's Men"
Posted by: Levin at January 15, 2014 11:44 AM (4RsUF)
Posted by: Adam Levine, People Magazine's "Mr Sexy" at January 15, 2014 11:45 AM (BXLPR)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 15, 2014 11:45 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: thunderb at January 15, 2014 11:45 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 15, 2014 11:45 AM (8ZskC)
If your worldview starts from that position, it's ultimately a lost cause. Our liberty will continue to be given away by the majority until that view flips to government being at best a necessary evil.
Posted by: Clownf*cker at January 15, 2014 11:45 AM (sPO/s)
Thomas Sowell has some interesting things to say about this sort of thing in his books.
But seriously, what college age voter is going to be able to put real world experience, common sense, knowledge of human nature, and knowledge of history together and come up with a solid understanding of politics?
So, I visited my (Democrat) sister over the summer for a few weeks. She gets a large portion of her information three sources: The evening news, John Stewart, and the Onion. She considers herself an "informed voter."
Seriously. This is what we're up against.
Posted by: Book at January 15, 2014 11:45 AM (qWES6)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 15, 2014 11:46 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Other Obama Voter at January 15, 2014 11:46 AM (2hQRj)
Posted by: SpongeBobMcConnell at January 15, 2014 11:46 AM (kxSZr)
Posted by: [/i]KG at January 15, 2014 11:46 AM (p7BzH)
Posted by: Lauren at January 15, 2014 11:46 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 15, 2014 11:46 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Heralder at January 15, 2014 11:47 AM (/Mxso)
promise them everything get power back and start using the FCC to destroy the networks...
fuck 'em.
If the young think it is okay for CO to subvert Federal law drag them kicking and screaming to respect for the law...
let CO have pot and use Obama's magic pen to open up ANWAR, Relegalize Coal, demand the regs YOU want from the civil service and if they refuse fire them and bribe NSA to give you the goods on their webs and if need be start blackmailing people....
If we are not to be ruled by sane people or any recognizable system, if people think that actually trying to change things as they now stand with an ArtV is "insane" beat donkey at his own game...
Run a Porn star who swings right...
here in Idiocracy that is power evidently.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 15, 2014 11:47 AM (TE35l)
Are there any swayable liberals who read Drudge?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 15, 2014 11:47 AM (GcYmn)
And to be a big mean racist.
Posted by: Null at January 15, 2014 11:48 AM (P7hip)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 15, 2014 11:48 AM (bb5+k)
Exactly...
fuck outdonk donkey...
Tell 'em you'll forgive student loans and send everyone under the age of 30 100,000 bucks....
then dare congress to say no....
The Democrats have made a living killing the Republic with bullshit promises...
out mule them
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 15, 2014 11:48 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 15, 2014 11:49 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2014 11:49 AM (POpqt)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 15, 2014 11:49 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 11:49 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: GOP at January 15, 2014 11:49 AM (oFCZn)
Now that it is going to cost that new smart phone or new kicks they are looking a little deeper into my lies of being cool.
Posted by: King Barky the Liar at January 15, 2014 11:49 AM (WGm5T)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 15, 2014 11:49 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2014 11:49 AM (MB7Pi)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 15, 2014 11:50 AM (2A43Q)
>>>So, I visited my (Democrat) sister over the summer for a few weeks. She gets a large portion of her information three sources: The evening news, John Stewart, and the Onion. She considers herself an "informed voter."
You get *your* news from the Internet!
[scoffs]
Posted by: Bigby's Tin Cup Holding Hand at January 15, 2014 11:51 AM (3ZtZW)
Republican kids of my era were told to read 3 sources and take out the 1/3 of the average report based on donk bias...
these kids think fucking BuzzFeed is a goddamned source.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 15, 2014 11:51 AM (TE35l)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 11:51 AM (At8tV)
Posted by: thunderb at January 15, 2014 11:51 AM (zOTsN)
They understand it in a car insurance context, so why not for health insurance?
Posted by: Clownf*cker at January 15, 2014 11:51 AM (l2max)
Posted by: JEM at January 15, 2014 11:52 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 15, 2014 11:52 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: thunderb at January 15, 2014 11:52 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 15, 2014 11:52 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 15, 2014 11:53 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 15, 2014 11:53 AM (bb5+k)
Posted by: Fen at January 15, 2014 11:53 AM (a422o)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 15, 2014 03:47 PM (GcYmn)
It's vaguely possible. Maybe not liberals, but a chance on generic LIVs.
Anecdote: I used to date a ginger with huge tracts of land. She was conservative (USAF vet), but her mother was a die-hard lib state employee. The mother and I got along pretty well, and had some good debates. One day I mentioned reading something, and she asked where I had found it.
Me: It was posted on Drudge.
Her: Drudge?
Me: Yeah, The Drudge Report.
Her: That's a real thing?
Me: Uh, yeah?
Her: Oh, they talked about it on The West Wing, but I thought it was something made up.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 15, 2014 11:53 AM (L8r/r)
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Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 15, 2014 11:54 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Country Singer at January 15, 2014 11:54 AM (L8r/r)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 15, 2014 11:55 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: toby928© at January 15, 2014 11:55 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 15, 2014 11:55 AM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 15, 2014 11:55 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 15, 2014 11:56 AM (CJjw5)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2014 11:56 AM (b1/nQ)
Posted by: Jimmy Kimmel at January 15, 2014 11:56 AM (GKNHO)
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at January 15, 2014 11:56 AM (dTh2r)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 15, 2014 11:56 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 03:51 PM (At8tV)
I deserve to be treated much better than fairly.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Have the HRC Designer Vindictivenous Line Exclusively! at January 15, 2014 11:56 AM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Damiano at January 15, 2014 11:57 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 15, 2014 11:57 AM (XvHmy)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 15, 2014 11:57 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 11:57 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Book at January 15, 2014 03:45 PM (qWES6)
I've hated the Democratic Party for as long as I can remember. Proudly cast my first vote in 1980 for Ronald Reagan. I've never understood the attraction of the Democrats because I'm not a collectivist. Of course, people that like collectivism either think they're going to get "free sh!t" or have a say in giving away somebody else's stuff.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop posting from work at January 15, 2014 11:57 AM (T6MoX)
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 15, 2014 11:57 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 15, 2014 03:56 PM (CJjw5)
To be fair, I'm not so sure that is satire. I really want to know: does he?
Posted by: Heralder at January 15, 2014 11:57 AM (/Mxso)
Posted by: thunderb at January 15, 2014 11:57 AM (zOTsN)
Not sure who this Kimmel guy is, but if he's saying the Emperor has no clothes, then he's alright in my book.
The really sad thing is the number of people who require a Kimmel for the truth.
Posted by: A Fashionista bringing humble offerings of fresh fruits and vegetables to the feet of Our Dear Leade at January 15, 2014 11:57 AM (pHsgM)
Posted by: 76 year old Scotsman with a morphine drip at January 15, 2014 11:58 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 11:58 AM (At8tV)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 15, 2014 11:59 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: irright at January 15, 2014 12:00 PM (Ze8oh)
It depends on what the liberal-leftist provincial Liberal government has to say about it. It might get them the Thuggee vote.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 15, 2014 12:00 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: Gen X at January 15, 2014 12:00 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:00 PM (At8tV)
Yeah you fuckhead...
Barack Obama just blew up healthcare for the Americans who had it covered down and couldn't get a sane working fucking website going numbnuts....
I know this is hard for you buddy but it is already a 2 trillion dollar clusterfuck....look either get with what matters or stop thinking because frankly like Obama you suck at it.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 15, 2014 12:00 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Damiano at January 15, 2014 12:00 PM (j0wOO)
Posted by: nerdygirl at January 15, 2014 12:00 PM (yGFK2)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 03:58 PM (At8tV)
I don't care what you do to the benighted cheese-mongers; they're all near-Scandi anyway.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Have the HRC Designer Vindictivenous Line Exclusively! at January 15, 2014 12:01 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Adam at January 15, 2014 12:01 PM (Aif/5)
The really sad thing is the number of people who require a Kimmel for the truth.
Posted by: A Fashionista bringing humble offerings of fresh fruits and vegetables to the feet of Our Dear Leade at January 15, 2014 03:57 PM (pHsgM)
Kimmel used to co-host a show on Comedy Central called "The Man Show" with Adam Corolla. Though I don't know Kimmel's politics, the outro of bikini clad chicks jumping on trampolines in slow motion is something I can get behind.
Posted by: Heralder at January 15, 2014 12:01 PM (/Mxso)
Of course, it frustrates them when I can then say, "Yes, I got to read the original document. Did *you* see the original document?" Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It.
Excellent retort.
When the Newtown school shooting happened a year ago, my Dad freaked out- really got pissed off for the NRA's statement.
Or rather, he got pissed for the 30 second clip Bob Costas showed on his program. (or whoever nightly news guy it is that Dad trusts to "shoot straight" with his viewers.)
My response was I had managed to see the entire speech. All 28 minutes of it. Not the selectively edited portion he was fed by the media.
But! Hey! Actually take the time to understand the entirety of someone's position on gun control!? Ain't nobody got time for that!
Posted by: Book at January 15, 2014 12:01 PM (qWES6)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2014 12:02 PM (yz6yg)
The X'ers know it's coming, but it's like, forever from now.
In 15 years? Then you'll hear much howling and gnashing of teeth.
Posted by: Clownf*cker at January 15, 2014 12:02 PM (sPO/s)
It got through to a bunch of us majesty....
of course our younger siblings and kids are being told money as a barrier to moral goodness by government is an imaginary limit...
I'm sure that'll work out better.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 15, 2014 12:02 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: liverpool pathway at January 15, 2014 12:02 PM (zOTsN)
and that would be just racist.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 15, 2014 12:02 PM (BZAd3)
I think a lot of fiscal conservatives are made when young "liberals" have to actually go to work to support themselves. Even more are made when these same people go into business for themselves.
Posted by: Sphynx at January 15, 2014 12:02 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 15, 2014 12:02 PM (naUcP)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:02 PM (At8tV)
http://tinyurl.com/mqohzxy
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 03:57 PM (aDwsi)
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There's a part of me that wants to see it put there. It would be interesting to see how long it would take for it to be hammered and chipped away to nothing.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2014 12:03 PM (MB7Pi)
Yeah...I thought I was being nice I left out about 10 lines of stupid fuck...but duly noted.
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 15, 2014 12:03 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 15, 2014 12:04 PM (naUcP)
If you want "media power", you go after the suits, not the personalities. Media distributors are buying media producers or creating their own production units. FNC is a monster on cable. So why hasn't Ailes moved FNC components to the FOX broadcast network in direct competition to ABCNBCCBS nightly news?
Posted by: mrp at January 15, 2014 12:05 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:05 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 12:05 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 15, 2014 12:05 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2014 04:03 PM (MB7Pi)
I was thinking a TFG effigy with its head in the statue's crotch.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 15, 2014 12:05 PM (L8r/r)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 15, 2014 12:05 PM (CJjw5)
Posted by: Marcus at January 15, 2014 12:06 PM (GGCsk)
So anyway, sorry for being all grumpy at the whipper snapper crowd.
Posted by: Book at January 15, 2014 12:06 PM (qWES6)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 15, 2014 12:06 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:06 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 15, 2014 12:06 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 12:06 PM (aDwsi)
You know what is really funny?
After years of tinkering and spending hundreds of billions of dollars, the website will function at an acceptable level.
After years of bludgeoning and threats, people will sign up for insurance.
After years of fighting, the doctors and hospitals that don't want this will hang up their shingles and close their doors.
Then, the federal government will finally be able to use H1B visa 'doctors' to provide the medical service of a quality that is only comparable to the US Post Office.
So many levels of fail.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 15, 2014 12:07 PM (2A43Q)
Posted by: toby928© at January 15, 2014 12:07 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Liberal Professors with Federal "research" grants at January 15, 2014 12:07 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Kathleen Sibelius at January 15, 2014 12:07 PM (j0wOO)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 15, 2014 04:02 PM (naUcP)
See? Even worse. Only Lake Michigan saves Ludington from being overrun with these smelly creatures who 'think' being an iceback is a step upwards in evolution.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - We Have the HRC Designer Vindictivenous Line Exclusively! at January 15, 2014 12:07 PM (hLRSq)
This is what changed me to conservative: I listened to C-Span radio while commuting (had a long commute), so I'd hear an entire speech, or a decent amount of a Senate or House hearing and then see what 10 second bit was actually excerpted on the nightly news. 9+ time out of 10 the selected sound bite was either mis-used (taken out of context to intentionally give the wrong impression) or used to dodge something said that was much more important than the part they'd chosen to cover.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2014 12:07 PM (POpqt)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:08 PM (At8tV)
Jeff the fight in Sociology circles was "Baby Busters" or Gen X in the mid 70s to early 80s...
thank God Gen-X won because otherwise I'd have to be Ray Parker Jr or something....
They thought they were gonna program us to hate Reagan and love the 60s...
BWAHAHAHA "right" not when the grandfolks showed me WW2 Moonbats
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 15, 2014 12:08 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 15, 2014 12:08 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 15, 2014 12:08 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 15, 2014 12:08 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Other Obama Voter at January 15, 2014 12:08 PM (2hQRj)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:09 PM (At8tV)
Oh, and the poor dumbs**t kids calling in to ask the doctor, "Why does it hurt when I pee?"
Posted by: Fashionista *brings humble offerings of fresh fruits and vegetables to the feet of Our Dear Leader* at January 15, 2014 12:09 PM (pHsgM)
And then we can all be equally miserable, because that's all liberalism is: equality of outcome.
Posted by: Clownf*cker at January 15, 2014 12:09 PM (5npD/)
Posted by: UWP at January 15, 2014 12:09 PM (2hQRj)
Nice sock...you left a few derps and UHs and "HAHAHA wingnutz" game on
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 15, 2014 12:10 PM (TE35l)
That is, until they actually generate a paycheck and see how much the government they were cheerleading for is taking for all the "free" stuff..
Posted by: Marcus at January 15, 2014 12:10 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: The Pigs at January 15, 2014 12:10 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2014 12:10 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2014 12:11 PM (b1/nQ)
Posted by: Lauren at January 15, 2014 12:11 PM (hFL/3)
Because economies of scale? Unicorn farts? the emergence of the New Soviet Man who needs no medical care? One of those.
Posted by: Mr. Low Information Voter at January 15, 2014 12:11 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: liverpool pathway at January 15, 2014 12:11 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:11 PM (At8tV)
I bet they would watch that...
Posted by: Marcus at January 15, 2014 12:12 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: UWP at January 15, 2014 12:12 PM (2hQRj)
should I drive to the gun store and office or walk and enjoy the fine day, maybe stop for a beer?
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 04:06 PM (At8tV)
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Hey. Maybe you could give Cutler a call. I'm sure he hasn't been getting many lately.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2014 12:12 PM (MB7Pi)
Posted by: whoever at January 15, 2014 12:12 PM (zu9Ee)
Posted by: Clownf*cker at January 15, 2014 12:12 PM (5npD/)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 15, 2014 12:13 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 15, 2014 12:13 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 12:13 PM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2014 12:13 PM (b1/nQ)
Posted by: Book at January 15, 2014 12:13 PM (qWES6)
>>>but Gen X has been told since birth that Social Security will not exist for them and lol Medicare and hey you're going to be saving for your own retirement as well as paying for four or five other people's simultaneouslyl and that doesn't seem to have gotten through.
Gen X == 40/50yo now. Whatever's going to happen is too late to stop. I know it, you know it, we all do. That's what we bitch about. I think it's all basically true but that a safety net will be in place, acting as an actual safety net not a hammock.
Posted by: Bigby's Tin Cup Holding Hand at January 15, 2014 12:13 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Fashionista *brings humble offerings of fresh fruits and vegetables to the feet of Our Dear Leader* at January 15, 2014 12:13 PM (pHsgM)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 12:14 PM (aDwsi)
144 How did "Generation X" get applied to my age cohort?
At the time, having "X" applied to something...was cool.
X Files.
X Box.
Remember all that?
So Generation X got x-filed and x-boxed too.
Posted by: wheatie at January 15, 2014 12:14 PM (wUr+i)
Posted by: Marcus at January 15, 2014 12:14 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2014 12:14 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 15, 2014 12:14 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:15 PM (At8tV)
And then we can all be equally miserable, because that's all liberalism is: equality of outcome.
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And equality of outcome always comes down to bringing down the top. Rush (the band) said it best: "the trees were all made equal; by hatchet, axe, and saw"
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 15, 2014 12:15 PM (2A43Q)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2014 12:15 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 15, 2014 12:15 PM (CJjw5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 12:15 PM (7kkQJ)
I have no idea why this is controversial. Money is finite...if it goes to people who don't need it then it isn't available to give to the people that do need it. I don't make a lot of money, and I worry that I might be in a bad spot someday and not be able to support my family. The safety net is cool with me, to catch you if you fall. It shouldn't a fucking hammock that you can relax in and be comfortable, you'll want to stay there.
I'm kind of OT, but this idea that programs like this are designed to help the working poor is bullshit. What kind of "poor" person can pay more than a couple hundred bucks a month for insurance? And what kind of program "for poor people" offers plans that require you to have all kinds of stupid shit covered that don't affect basic survival? Government Health Care gives all kinds of benefits to people that don't need them (Insurance covers Birth Control! And sex changes!) while depriving people of the basic right to life (sorry, those operations cost too much. Have a nice death). So, as someone with a mom with health problems and a family that barely gets by...Obama's presidency is basically THE primary reason I went from a pretty moderate democrat to hardcore conservative. I already worry for my new daughter's future in this country.
So yeah, fuck Obamacare.
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at January 15, 2014 12:16 PM (ynzfm)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 12:16 PM (7kkQJ)
He talks like a fag and his shit's all fucked up.
Posted by: eleven at January 15, 2014 12:16 PM (KXm42)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 12:16 PM (aDwsi)
The thing I don't like about this video...is that it makes young people hate old people, even more than they already do.
Posted by: wheatie at January 15, 2014 12:16 PM (wUr+i)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac, Keeper of the KaBoom flame at January 15, 2014 12:17 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: Bernenke, Krugman, and the Pips at January 15, 2014 12:17 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 15, 2014 12:17 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 15, 2014 12:17 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 12:18 PM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 15, 2014 12:18 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Sarah Palin's Dad at January 15, 2014 12:18 PM (yGFK2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 12:19 PM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 15, 2014 12:19 PM (naUcP)
A: The "news hole".
True.
Ask any ink-stained wretch who can answer the question correctly, "Who was our 4th President?"
Posted by: Fashionista *brings humble offerings of fresh fruits and vegetables to the feet of Our Dear Leader* at January 15, 2014 12:19 PM (pHsgM)
And scare the voters away. O_o
Posted by: HR at January 15, 2014 12:19 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 04:15 PM (7kkQJ)
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OMG! The goat-god ate Fenelon.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2014 12:19 PM (MB7Pi)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2014 12:19 PM (b1/nQ)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 15, 2014 12:20 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: steevy at January 15, 2014 12:21 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at January 15, 2014 12:21 PM (Vvdwr)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:21 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2014 12:21 PM (yz6yg)
No sense of paying for their own shit. Always gotta be paid for by someone else.
Posted by: Deathknyte at January 15, 2014 12:21 PM (SSdkj)
Posted by: Sarah Palin's Dad at January 15, 2014 12:22 PM (yGFK2)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 15, 2014 12:22 PM (WdbF7)
>>>You may already belong to Satan without even thinking he actually exists,
Funny thing about Satanists is they couldn't exist without Christianity, so - being of the same overall religious culture - they also must needs believe in God, Jesus, angels, the lot.
Posted by: Bigby's Tin Cup Holding Hand at January 15, 2014 12:22 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Book at January 15, 2014 12:22 PM (qWES6)
Posted by: Lauren at January 15, 2014 12:22 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 04:19 PM (7kkQJ)
They are intellectually flaccid, rebellious teenagers.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2014 12:23 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 12:23 PM (7kkQJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2014 12:23 PM (b1/nQ)
No sense of paying for their own shit. Always gotta be paid for by someone else.
Posted by: Deathknyte at January 15, 2014 04:21 PM (SSdkj)
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Generalize much?
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2014 12:24 PM (MB7Pi)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:24 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 12:24 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Adam at January 15, 2014 12:25 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2014 12:25 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: whoever at January 15, 2014 12:25 PM (zu9Ee)
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at January 15, 2014 12:25 PM (ynzfm)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 04:23 PM (7kkQJ)
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Just saw the unfinished sentence and thought, you know, the worst.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2014 12:25 PM (MB7Pi)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 15, 2014 12:26 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 12:26 PM (aDwsi)
/we're screwed
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 15, 2014 12:26 PM (Oa7B2)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 15, 2014 12:26 PM (GaqMa)
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He HAS been posting a lot of infowars crap lately. Not that Huffpo is better, but seriously, Drudge?
Posted by: Book at January 15, 2014 12:27 PM (qWES6)
Posted by: toby928© at January 15, 2014 12:27 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2014 04:25 PM (6TB1Z)
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With a little lotion, I'm sure it'd be great for those long, lonely nights.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2014 12:27 PM (MB7Pi)
>>>I mean, where did the movie makers get that idea?
To be fair, there wasn't enough anal rape for it to be a realistic portrait.
Posted by: Bigby's Tin Cup Holding Hand at January 15, 2014 12:27 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Lauren at January 15, 2014 12:28 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Dumbass I went to high school with at January 15, 2014 12:28 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: navycopjoe why god why? at January 15, 2014 12:28 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at January 15, 2014 12:28 PM (Vvdwr)
@2Enjoy that audit, Jimmy!
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Apparently Sarah Palin's father has been "horribly harrassed" by the IRS six times since the 2008 election.
Posted by: junior at January 15, 2014 12:28 PM (UWFpX)
Posted by: Chaz at January 15, 2014 12:29 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: UWP at January 15, 2014 12:29 PM (2hQRj)
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Ummmmm. Anybody see one of many giant flaws in this proposal? State capital, where laws are made, has a monument to the underpinnings of the laws that were used to found this nation.
What Satanic laws are there? What code of theirs has been used as a basis for the laws of the United States, or of Oklahoma?
Posted by: grammie winger at January 15, 2014 12:29 PM (2r6/e)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2014 12:29 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at January 15, 2014 12:30 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 12:30 PM (7kkQJ)
Baby steps. It's okay to hate affluent, white, well-spoken people. They wouldn't dare put the real recipients in the ad, because, well, you know.
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2014 12:30 PM (6TB1Z)
http://tinyurl.com/lwvc9cn
When I saw this I wondered what the reaction was of Springsteen's biggest fan, Chris Christie.
Posted by: think at January 15, 2014 12:31 PM (OroYa)
Posted by: Elinor at January 15, 2014 12:31 PM (TCqhy)
Posted by: joey biden at January 15, 2014 12:31 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: Adam at January 15, 2014 04:25 PM (Aif/5)
Hey, we all know when they are called violent thugs they like to respond with peaceful protesting and violent thuggery. But mostly violent thuggery.
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at January 15, 2014 12:31 PM (ynzfm)
I'm going to make a wild guess that that reviewer loves him some Tarantino movies.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2014 12:32 PM (POpqt)
Posted by: Carol at January 15, 2014 12:32 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 12:32 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 15, 2014 04:29 PM (2r6/e)
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I see you've never been to Stillwater.
Posted by: Soona at January 15, 2014 12:32 PM (MB7Pi)
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 15, 2014 12:32 PM (Oa7B2)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2014 12:32 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Kensington at January 15, 2014 12:33 PM (H84UO)
Posted by: Elinor at January 15, 2014 04:31 PM (TCqhy)
STD's are growing among the elderly population at a record clip. The dummies figure since they can't get pregnant they don't need to use any protection.
Posted by: think at January 15, 2014 12:33 PM (OroYa)
Posted by: Lady in Black
Thanks so much. Not that I can sing a note, but you get the idea.
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2014 12:33 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at January 15, 2014 12:34 PM (Vvdwr)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 15, 2014 12:34 PM (XsjeH)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 12:34 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at January 15, 2014 12:34 PM (Vvdwr)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at January 15, 2014 12:35 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Lauren at January 15, 2014 12:35 PM (hFL/3)
BREAKING: House passes bipartisan $1.1 trillion government-wide funding bill.
1500 pages.
No one has read it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 15, 2014 12:35 PM (qrpxS)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 15, 2014 12:35 PM (aDwsi)
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Ewwwwwww. Just .... ewwwwww.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 15, 2014 12:35 PM (P6QsQ)
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Ok, that made me laugh. Basically, you'd get the same results if you just taped a popsicle stick to your wanker. It's all so...romantic.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 15, 2014 12:36 PM (Oa7B2)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 15, 2014 12:36 PM (zfY+H)
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The Atlantic was upset because the movie, get this, makes the Taliban out to be a bunch of violent thugs who like to behead people. I mean, where did the movie makers get that idea?
Posted by: Adam at January 15, 2014 04:25 PM (Aif/5)
Michael Savage said the movie made the SEALS look bad and the Taliban look good.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 15, 2014 12:36 PM (m2Izr)
Posted by: Mr Reggie Love at January 15, 2014 12:36 PM (BXLPR)
Huh, interesting. You'd think it's a simple exercise in mechanics, and that the bigger the volume, the higher the Young's Modulus, as it were. Just about anything can be turned into an interesting scientific question.
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2014 12:36 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Carol at January 15, 2014 12:36 PM (z4WKX)
>>>So who decided taxpayers WOULD pay for seniors' penis pumps but NOT pay for seniors' eyeglasses and hearing aids?
Sandra Fluke, kinda. They're considered sexual health items, the plans can't discriminate [in the sense of decide] between older and younger, male or female, etc.
Posted by: Bigby's Tin Cup Holding Hand at January 15, 2014 12:37 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: steevy at January 15, 2014 12:37 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2014 12:37 PM (6TB1Z)
Yep - we GenXers are old farts now.
It seems like only yesterday (back in the late 80's - early 90's) that the media was highlighting how mopey and negative we young Xers were about our collective prospects - all the while telling us to buck up, Bunky. After all, the Boomers who were our mothers and fathers had been there and done that, man, back in the 60's.
Turns out we were right to know in our bones that we were going to get fucked...and not in a good way.
Posted by: Jaws at January 15, 2014 12:37 PM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 12:38 PM (7kkQJ)
223 Seems to me, when the baby boomers were young they wanted the older generations to pay for what the boomers wanted. Now that they are the older generation, they want the younger generations to pay for what they want.
No sense of paying for their own shit. Always gotta be paid for by someone else.
Posted by: Deathknyte at January 15, 2014 04:21 PM (SSdkj)
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No.
Not all of the Baby Boomers...just the Liberal ones.
The Conservative Boomers have been trying to warn you about this shit for decades.
Posted by: wheatie at January 15, 2014 12:39 PM (wUr+i)
Michael Savage makes Michael Savage look bad.
Posted by: Jaws at January 15, 2014 12:39 PM (4I3Uo)
Posted by: Lauren at January 15, 2014 12:40 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: toby928© at January 15, 2014 12:40 PM (QupBk)
It's axiomatic.
Clearly you aren't into turgid writing.
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2014 12:40 PM (6TB1Z)
More and more I've come to believe that politics is ultimately not about what people read, or learn, or come to believe after giving it careful thought. Politics is all about what people "know" without quite knowing how they came to know it.
A major disadvantage for the right is that the first time voters hear a conservative view is usually during a campaign, from one of our candidates.
That's a horrible way to win an issue.
Posted by: CJ at January 15, 2014 12:40 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2014 04:38 PM (7kkQJ)
Is that the XXX version?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 15, 2014 12:40 PM (m2Izr)
Posted by: Elinor at January 15, 2014 12:40 PM (TCqhy)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at January 15, 2014 12:41 PM (Vvdwr)
NOT. FUNNY.
Posted by: The Romantic Guy With The Popsicle Sticks Taped To His Dick at January 15, 2014 12:41 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: toby928© at January 15, 2014 12:41 PM (QupBk)
My guess is that the decreased pressure simply stretches the skin and creates lower pressure in the veins, which draws some blood into the enlarged volume, but not enough or under enough pressure for a real erection.
That being said, I would be damned upset if I couldn't get it up and would probably resort to drastic measures.
But for fuck's sake...why the hell should it be paid for?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2014 12:41 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 15, 2014 12:41 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 15, 2014 12:42 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at January 15, 2014 12:42 PM (ynzfm)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 15, 2014 12:43 PM (P7Wsr)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
With the exception of true need (e.g. the disabled), that question can be asked of anything medical that we're all now on the hook to buy.
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2014 12:43 PM (6TB1Z)
Ugh. Looked at her past reviews and saw that she's excited about (America-hater) Lars van Triers' artsy-fartsy 4+ hour "Nymphomaniac." That's all I need to know
Posted by: Lizzy at January 15, 2014 12:43 PM (POpqt)
Posted by: AoSHQ Public Service Announcement at January 15, 2014 12:43 PM (5Wdng)
Posted by: Rip at January 15, 2014 12:43 PM (Zzqsb)
Are there any swayable liberals?
Probably the more notable question.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, still chilly at January 15, 2014 03:49 PM (naUcP)
I think David Mamet was the last one. Kirsten Powers keeps flirting with swayability, but ewwww, conservatives are icky.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 15, 2014 12:44 PM (TIIx5)
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Speak for yourself.
*runs for cell phone camera*
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at January 15, 2014 12:45 PM (Oa7B2)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 15, 2014 12:46 PM (P7Wsr)
>>>Turns out we were right to know in our bones that we were going to get fucked...and not in a good way.
Yup. That forboding is why a lot of us killed ourselves, or did shit that wound up killing us, or did shit that got us by rather than got us ahead. I do expect to see all of that come back 'round again towards the end of our days.
Posted by: Bigby's Tin Cup Holding Hand at January 15, 2014 12:46 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: RWC at January 15, 2014 12:46 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at January 15, 2014 12:48 PM (Vvdwr)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 15, 2014 12:48 PM (oFvKj)
Posted by: Abe Froman at January 15, 2014 12:48 PM (TCqhy)
I disagree.
If the disabled want erections, they can pay for the equipment on their own. I see no medical need for this. And if there is some need, then how about paying for hookers for other disabled people who can't -- for whatever reason -- simply get laid?
Oh...wait. They do that already.
We are fucked.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2014 12:48 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: RWC at January 15, 2014 12:49 PM (fWAjv)
Jimmy Kimmel is a Liberal.
So this is how the Liberals are going to try to spin the horribleness of ObamaCare?
IT'S THE OLD PEOPLE'S FAULT!
He doesn't mention that older people are being forced to pay for things like abortions and maternity care...that they don't need.
Posted by: wheatie at January 15, 2014 12:49 PM (wUr+i)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 15, 2014 12:54 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: The Farmer at January 15, 2014 12:55 PM (eBupg)
I was unclear. I meant really legitimate medical needs, e.g. heart medication. Of course, as soon as you permit that, you have an endless fight about what constitutes legitimate.
Posted by: pep at January 15, 2014 12:55 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 15, 2014 12:57 PM (BXLPR)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 15, 2014 12:58 PM (GaqMa)
Posted by: Carol
The late Miss Emily and I were called "dinks...."
Dual income, No Kids....
Posted by: backhoe at January 15, 2014 01:00 PM (ULH4o)
It's easy to think your junk is bulletproof after a spirited round of shuffleboard. The South Florida Grey Cougars loves them a man who can work that stick like a champ.
Posted by: Jaws at January 15, 2014 01:00 PM (4I3Uo)
I was off the thread for a while, so someone may have already pointed this out.
http://tinyurl.com/ma3lvto
The comments written by readers to that article are absolutely scathing to the original movie critic.
She gets verbally broke down like a double barrel at a turkey shoot by more then a simple majority of those who took the time to reply.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 15, 2014 01:08 PM (GcYmn)
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I'm convinced he's a phony who's only a conservative because that's what the market was demanding when he wanted to get in radio.
90% of the time he sounds like a liberal parody of what conservatives are supposed to sound like.
You can't tell me that a guy from San Francisco who writes books about nutrition is a genuine conservative.
Posted by: Kensington at January 15, 2014 01:10 PM (H84UO)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 15, 2014 01:16 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: whoever at January 15, 2014 01:27 PM (zu9Ee)
Posted by: peej at January 15, 2014 01:31 PM (xYVem)
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