January 17, 2014
— Ace In the below excerpt, Walker talks about how we ought to talk.
... that the Left, they want you under their thumb. They want to control you. They want to control your lives. They want you to be dependent on the government. We should say weÂ’re the ones, not only for the poor, but for young people coming out of college, for working class families, for immigrants, for others out there. We should say we are the ones who empower the American Dream.WeÂ’re the ones who say you can do and be anything you want, but itÂ’s because we empower you with the ability and the platform to do that. Then itÂ’s up to you to make that happen. The other side tells you they want to help you, but in the end they want to keep you limited in how far you can grow.
We want to make sure everyoneÂ’s a part of the recovery. WeÂ’re not going to leave anybody behind, but weÂ’re going to do it by empowering people to control their own lives and destiny.
He expresses his frustration at Mitt Romney's campaign, and why Romney lost:
It was, I mean, it’s so frustrating. I mean, you think in modern American history we’ve never had someone running for re-election with an unemployment rate so high that ultimately won the election. I believe Mitt Romney is a good man. I think he would have been a good president, but I think he was mis-served by many in his campaign, many of whom believed, I think incorrectly, that Ronald Reagan won under similar circumstances almost exclusively on the idea that the question was making the election an referendum on Jimmy Carter. In fact, I quote the famous line that Reagan used, “You’re better off today than you were four years ago.” The problem is the Romney camp thought that was the entire focus of the campaign.They failed to see that Reagan’s campaign…… that statement was the closing argument in one of the last debates. It was a way of wrapping things together, but his campaign was much more than just being against Jimmy Carter. It was much more aspirational and Americans could see — and to this day 33 years later — you can still look back and say that and vote for Ronald Reagan. I remember, I was a teenager, had just become a teenager and voted for Ronald Reagan — limited government, you know, smaller government, lower taxes, strong national defense. You knew what you were getting. You knew how a Reagan administration, a Reagan presidency was going to be better for you....
I think that was a huge disservice, but that’s what happens when you fail to make your case positively, affirmatively — make your case about how life will be better if they elect a Republican.
Althouse (where I saw this) comments favorably on Walker's pitch, particularly on his recognition of the "aspirational" nature of a presidential candidacy.
Minor elected officials don't have to worry about the aspirational. They can afford to be entirely transactional-- vote for me, I'll do the things you want me to do. You don't have to look up to me, and you don't need to know I have a coherent vision of the Platonic Ideal of America. In exchange for your vote I'll do these things.
Period.
And that's fine for House members. Senators tend to need a little of the aspirational -- a little of the "poetry" of campaigning, as opposed to the "prose" of voting on legislation -- and governors need even more.
Presidents need a whole lot.
In fact, you can be a completely unaccomplished, never-did-nothing parvenue from the corrupt districts of Chicago and get elected President if you offer mostly the aspirational (with some vague promises about the transactional -- like how much of the federal kitty you're going to redistribute to your coalition).
He's right that Mitt Romney failed to deliver that. Mitt Romney, as far as conservative policy, offered us transactional promises. Not aspirational ones, transactional ones.
For example, he promised us he'd make illegal aliens self-deport. A fine transactional guarantee for those who seek to eject illegal immigrants. But nothing aspirational about it -- he didn't really even try to sell that as a humane and good policy. He just said he'd do it, because Republican primary voters demanded it.
He reported himself as "severely conservative." Another transactional promise. Hey, vote for me; I'll be stingy. Aspirational? Of course not. Who describes himself as "severely" anything?
The one area where I got excited -- and thought Mitt Romney was getting it on this aspirational thing -- is when he began talking about a "government-centered society," contrasting that (not as much contrast as I'd've liked, but it was there) on a society centered around the individual and family.
He began talking less about purely transactional bargains and more about a unifying theory of why conservatism works, and why statism in its various forms do not.
Because statism does not value the individual, only the masses in their corporate collective. Because, as I think Romney said, the larger the state, the smaller the citizen.
While that was good stuff, he didn't really add too much to it, nor find a way to link most of his announced policy preferences into that coherent narrative.
This aspirational stuff is triply important:
First, because it flatters those already inclined to vote for you by telling them not only that they're right -- and everyone loves hearing that -- but by telling them they're right in this novel, exciting way they hadn't previously considered. This gins up enthusiasm in the base, and that translates to more votes.
Second, because it gives people who don't necessarily agree with you another possible reason to vote for you. Someone may not agree with you on most of your transactional promises... but if you've announced a larger thematic rationale for your candidacy, he might like that, and he might even vote for you despite disagreeing with you on details.
And third, because a coherent framework of ideas and vision is a plausible method of persuading the on-the-fence, marginally-invested voter.
On this last point, we don't just nominate candidates to do the mechanical bits of governance. We don't just elect Presidents to sign the bills we like and veto the ones we don't.
We want candidates who can do more than that -- we want candidates who can take our beliefs and persuade more of our countrymen that we're right.
And we want them to do that better than we can ourselves, because most of us aren't terribly good at it, and even if we were halfway good at it, we don't have a the commanding heights of the White House to proclaim it.
I don't see much in the interview where Walker actually offers an aspirational vision. But there's time for that, and at least he recognizes that need.
Congrats to John Hawkins for landing that interview.
And... this has been a longer week for me than the calendar would indicate, so I am officially f*cking off for the night. And I'm going to be f*cking off MLK Day too. (It would be racist of me not to, you know.)
Open Thread.
Bonus: Oh Dear Lord.
And another bonus: Democrats want to study "hate" on the internet.
The future tense of the verb "to study," in the Democrat Dictionary, is "will legislate and restrict freedom."
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Posted by: village at January 17, 2014 02:06 PM (utXSy)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 17, 2014 02:06 PM (0LHZx)
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Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 02:11 PM (/FnUH)
I see Ace has written books today. Give me a moment to catch up.
Posted by: dogfish at January 17, 2014 06:09 PM (nsOJa)
Well, it IS Oscar season......
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 17, 2014 02:11 PM (TIIx5)
Unga bunga. Me not know what you mean by this. Me go drink now and cry.
Posted by: John "Captain Caaaaaaaaaaveman" Boehner at January 17, 2014 02:11 PM (DpLZ2)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 17, 2014 02:11 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 06:10 PM (PlTXA)
Shhhh. Stop getting facts into my theory.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 17, 2014 02:12 PM (Gk3SS)
What Walker did was fucking amazing given he had the entire MSM, Obama and RINO machine against him. And he still won the fight with the unions.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 17, 2014 06:06 PM (0LHZx)
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Oh dear. I agree whole heartedly with Mr. Moo Moo. Quick, someone take a picture.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:12 PM (P6QsQ)
Hope you get some good rest, Ace.
Monday is MLK day? I hadn't noticed...
A holiday for the governmentally employed. Yay.
While the rest of the poor surfs have to work to support them.
Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2014 02:12 PM (Wq5le)
Posted by: NCKate at January 17, 2014 02:13 PM (x6fKj)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:13 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2014 02:14 PM (TIuBC)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 17, 2014 02:14 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Lauren at January 17, 2014 02:15 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: TheThinMan at January 17, 2014 02:16 PM (h2mLg)
if someone's right about something large or small than she's right about that thing, no matter which way she votes.
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 06:11 PM (/FnUH)
Because actions matter more than words. Someone can say anything they want but what they do matters.
In particular to Althouse, she said all the right things about TFG and then turned around and voted for him. Again. That tends to rather cast into doubt if she really means what she says.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 17, 2014 02:16 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 02:17 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 17, 2014 02:17 PM (P7Wsr)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 17, 2014 02:17 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: NCKate at January 17, 2014 02:17 PM (x6fKj)
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 02:17 PM (/FnUH)
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Case for Walker in a nutshell.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:18 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: TheThinMan at January 17, 2014 02:18 PM (h2mLg)
And if Walker has an interview like that and then does NOT run in 2016, he is a bigger troll than Stephen Moffat. Those who have seen new season of Sherlock know of what I speak. Walker/Rand 2016?
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 02:18 PM (BF+2f)
Paul Ryan failed in the same way with Joe Biden. The words coming out of his mouth should have been "You are lying again Mr. Biden. That's a bald-faced lie, Joe. You still shoveling that shit Joe?"
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 02:18 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 17, 2014 02:18 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 17, 2014 06:16 PM (Gk3SS)
Um unless I'm mistaken she claimed that she was going to vote for Romney?
In fact she made a big deal about her long arduous decision to vote for Romney. Because clearly it was just such a toss up between the two. Oh yeah there's a real thinker.
Posted by: buzzion at January 17, 2014 02:19 PM (LI48c)
Well she voted for Walker in both 2010 and the recall election, and voted for Romney as well. It's certainly plausible, leaning strongly towards probable.
Of course none of this matters because the people at Hot Air tell me that Scott Walker is just a GOP-e RINO shill who should be thrown out like week-old garbage. MARK LEVIN FOR PRESIDENT!
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 17, 2014 02:19 PM (ewYO6)
28 p.s. serfs
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Ack...you're right, Grampa Jimbo. ....'serfs' of course, not surfs.
Spellcheck is useless sometimes.
Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2014 02:19 PM (Wq5le)
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 02:19 PM (/FnUH)
"GOP leaders debate how to cut taxes with $912 million in extra money"
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:20 PM (P6QsQ)
Why is there this weird urban legend here on AoSHQ that Althouse voted for Obama? She was crystal clear, explicit that she not only voted for Romney, but that Obama had lost her long ago.
I guess because she's not a movement conservative and doesn't post rabid hate-screeds about Obama every time he appears in public, she's automatically On The Other Side or something.
Yeah, that's a great way to win 50% + 1 of the country.
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 17, 2014 02:20 PM (ewYO6)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 17, 2014 06:17 PM (QF8uk)<
If you are right, then maybe it is not too late for this country. As grammie says, a happy warrior like Walker (and like Reagan), confidently speaking about an opportunity based economy instead of an equal outcomes based economy may have a chance. I wish I knew you were right.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 02:21 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 17, 2014 02:21 PM (0LHZx)
Are you referring to the Big Reveal at the end of the last ep?
Hey Ace, when are you ever gonna do a post on Sherlock? The Mrs-to-be and I started watching it, mostly because I'd seen you saying good things about it over the years, and we've been blown away. Now we have to wait another friggin' year for more!
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 17, 2014 02:22 PM (ewYO6)
In fact she made a big deal about her long arduous decision to vote for Romney. Because clearly it was just such a toss up between the two. Oh yeah there's a real thinker. Posted by: buzzion at January 17, 2014 06:19 PM (LI48c)
Then I retract the again statement. The last I saw of it, she was still agonizing over voting for TFG and honestly that she was even at the point was ludicrous.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 17, 2014 02:22 PM (Gk3SS)
The similarities are striking.
Posted by: TheThinMan at January 17, 2014 06:18 PM (h2mLg)
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I had not thought of that. Perhaps you're right.
brb, figuring out what to do with my tax cut .....
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:22 PM (P6QsQ)
I think that's a huge assumption.
Two points:
1. Romney's camp was responding quickly to attacks against him. Do you remember all the ads and responses they had to specific charges? They were out pretty much the same day.
Posted by: bonhomme
No assumption necessary because he's referring to the fact that Romney allowed the Left to define him **BEFORE** the general campaign. Romney withheld spending money during the time it mattered.
Responding to charges after they are made in order to present your case is the path to losing. You have to define yourself before they get to the part of accusing you of murder, greed, and all around badness. IE MONTHS BEFORE THE PRIMARY.
Posted by: wew [/i] [/b] at January 17, 2014 02:22 PM (nZiT2)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2014 02:23 PM (lZBBB)
can you speak in code so as to let me know what you mean without offering a spoiler to those who haven't seen it?
Are you referring to the Big Reveal at the end of the last ep?
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 06:19 PM (/FnUH)
He could be referring to Doctor Who and there's almost a year wait for the next Doctor to finally have a season.
Posted by: buzzion at January 17, 2014 02:23 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 02:23 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 17, 2014 02:24 PM (P7Wsr)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 17, 2014 02:24 PM (0LHZx)
Huh. Horses for courses, I suppose. It was structured quite a bit differently than the first two, but I enjoyed it very much myself.
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 17, 2014 02:24 PM (ewYO6)
As the Legislature's budget office Thursday projected the state will take in $912 million MORE THAN previously expected through the summer of 2015, Republicans launched their debate on how much to cut taxes.
The state will close its 2013-'15 budget with $1.04 billion in its main account, UP from the $130 million that was previously expected.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:25 PM (P6QsQ)
" The bulk of the cancellation letters notifying employees should be going out in October, right before the midterm elections.
This could be the single most effective direct-mail campaign material in American history, and Republicans wonÂ’t even have to pay for the postage."
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 02:26 PM (V70Uh)
And last but certainly least, TFG. He does inspire my gag reflex if I can't stop the video quick enough.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 17, 2014 02:26 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 17, 2014 02:26 PM (1hM1d)
I guess because she's not a movement conservative and doesn't post rabid hate-screeds about Obama every time he appears in public, she's automatically On The Other Side or something.
Yeah, that's a great way to win 50% + 1 of the country.
Posted by: Jeff B. 2.0 - newly upgraded with fiancee! at January 17, 2014 06:20 PM (ewYO6)
Because IIRC, she voted for Obama in 2008 and, when I gave up on reading her, she was acting as if there was some hugely difficult decision to be made to vote for Romney. From my reading of her at the time, it sure as hell seemed as if she was going to vote for Obama.
As I said, I retract the again.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 17, 2014 02:26 PM (Gk3SS)
There are a lot of fan meta jokes in the new season. The authors are obviously very aware of what is going on in fandom and are willing to poke fun at it; some of it is quite hilarious, and some was a bit much. And yes, that includes how The Big Reveal is handled. There is a difference between being clever for cleverness sake and having a rich plot; felt like sometimes Moffat and Gatiss forgot that.
The new season premieres on PBS this Sunday...maybe one of the sunday regular coblogs can put up a group watch thread? *puppy dog eyes*
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 02:26 PM (BF+2f)
I agree with what you are saying. The cycle of dependency needs to be broken quickly or it never will be broken for some, or maybe even most. Fortunately, we don't need to convert most. Just maybe 5%.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 02:27 PM (PlTXA)
But I know you've been bad. Very very bad. So I will subject you to this as well.
http://tinyurl.com/lg39xha
"Lithe as a she-lion."
Posted by: God at January 17, 2014 02:27 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at January 17, 2014 02:27 PM (XIxXP)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at January 17, 2014 02:27 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: cormac_mcroadie at January 17, 2014 02:28 PM (NE5F0)
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What do you pay out where you are? I think we pay $75.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:29 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 02:29 PM (/FnUH)
And for the last 15 years or more America hasn't delivered on that.
The lower classes have been taking the brunt of the attrition caused by the free trade agreements and Government rules and laws that made it easy and profitable to move jobs overseas and making it more difficult for labor intensive jobs to remain in business.
Government rules (local, state and federal) have been tightening and tightening in areas at the edges where people could make a few dollars here and there to supplement their other job(s).
Increased regulation falls hardest on the smaller businesses or self employed.
The ladder of success lost a bunch of rungs and no one further up the line gave a shit and now they're losing theirs and are crying "why me". They shoulda thought of that years ago.
And BTW for all of the good Romney did occasionally, generally, Bain capital was about restructuring, shrinking and liquidation of failed businesses. So his company was part of the problem or at least could be seen as part of the problem.
Say what you will, when you lose your job and you need help, who is more likely to receive your vote? The guy who says we're cutting your help or the one who says we'll do more for you?
Hard to argue with that especially when the system is at fault and no one talks about actually tearing down the crazy system we've created. Where kids can't have a lemonade stand and the adult jobs all went to China.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 17, 2014 02:30 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 02:31 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Pete at January 17, 2014 02:31 PM (v5Oin)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:31 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 02:32 PM (/FnUH)
Megyn Kelly interviews Anthony Weiner tonight at 9:00 EST on Fox while he chokes the chicken and texts pics of Megyn's clam to his fans.
Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 17, 2014 02:32 PM (pJF+c)
As I said, I retract the again.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 17, 2014 06:26 PM (Gk3SS)
Yeah for someone that "Obama lost them a long time ago" it sure is odd that she made her decision in late October. She's a pompous twit with far too high of an estimate of what her opinion and decisions are.
In 2016, you can pretty much bet she will be voting with her uterus if there is a female on the Dem ticket.
Posted by: buzzion at January 17, 2014 02:33 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Lauren at January 17, 2014 02:33 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2014 02:33 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 17, 2014 02:33 PM (itCai)
For me, honestly, far and away THE biggest Scott Walker plus is simply this:
Not a fucking Ivy Leaguer. (In fact, not even a college grad.)
My distaste for Ivy alums who see themselves as having graduated from their alma mater "booted and spurred, ready to ride" atop the backs of the rest of us has now become so visceral and so strong that it causes me to distrust candidates with whom I would otherwise be immediately sympathetic (cough) Ted Cruz (cough).
The last President we had who wasn't an Ivy man left office in flipping _1989_.
Think about that for a few minutes. Then think about the precipitous decline in our national fortunes and outlook since 1989. I think about that all the goddamned time.
As well as thinking about the legions of Top. Men. who are damn near invariably also from the Ivies, and who have done such a wonderful job with stuff like macroeconomics and "climate change".
Posted by: torquewrench at January 17, 2014 02:33 PM (gqT4g)
I like Moffat's cleverness but he can become a one-trick pony, and he became that in Doctor Who and now his essential frothy superficiality is showing through on Sherlock.
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 06:31 PM (/FnUH)
This sums up my feelings about Moffat and Whedon:
http://bit.ly/1adT8Yg
It's a trope because it's true and because it shows just how lazy they all are as writers. I say this as a lazy writer who routinely falls back on precisely such stunts in order to avoid having to actually come up with a cognizable plot.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 17, 2014 02:34 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 02:34 PM (vHRtU)
Agree. Moffit and Gatiss apparently had an epic convo not too long ago, on a train, wherein they hashed out the plans for season 4 and Moffat declared it some of the best stuff he has ever written. High self praise; now we have to wait a year and a half to see if he's right, sigh. At least I have Elementary to pass the time.
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 02:35 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 17, 2014 02:35 PM (P7Wsr)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 17, 2014 06:30 PM (LSDdO)<
I agree with you that if the only argument we make is for cutting benefits, we lose. However, one of the things that Walker talks about a lot is that every Republican should be running as a reformer of the current system. An aspirational reform plan could be powerful in addressing the points you make.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 02:35 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 06:34 PM (vHRtU)
Will?
Will Shakespeare?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 17, 2014 02:35 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 06:34 PM (vHRtU)
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You could write that right there inside a nice Hallmark card.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:35 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 02:37 PM (V70Uh)
I may have to start reading something other than the comments more often.
Good stuff!
Posted by: phaedrus at January 17, 2014 02:37 PM (C7gaf)
The withholding changes would mean that Wisconsin residents would see more money in each paycheck upfront rather than in their spring income tax refunds."
Posted by: grammie winger at January 17, 2014 02:38 PM (P6QsQ)
That is a really wonderful visual. And so true.
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 02:38 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: I need a cool new sig at January 17, 2014 02:38 PM (q177U)
Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2014 02:38 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: ace at January 17, 2014 02:38 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Big Willy S'peare at January 17, 2014 02:39 PM (vHRtU)
Apparently you didn't either read what I wrote or read it the wrong way or I wrote it so that you were unable to understand.
I said "or at least could be seen to be part of the problem".
what part of that didn't you understand?
Elections are about image and Romney had an image as big business/screw the worker.
His company bought out businesses and laid off people or closed them (rightly or wrongly, that's what they did a lot of the time) and to many that appears to reinforce his negative image.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at January 17, 2014 02:39 PM (LSDdO)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 17, 2014 02:40 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 17, 2014 02:41 PM (DpEwG)
Presidents need to be aspirational....
Well, it is a common theme for Democratic candidates, Hope and/or Change, the Man from Plains and what have you.
But for successful Republican candidates? Reagan, sure -- but Nixon or Eisenhower? The bullet points there seems to be competence, stability and not Democrat.
Now as to whether that would still work in the modern "footie man jammies" era.....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 17, 2014 02:41 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 17, 2014 02:41 PM (P7Wsr)
I don't know if Walker will run, but if he does he has something going for him that most of the candidates won't have. He's had to walk through the leftist lanes of fire. And he did it with grace and determination, and won. There's only two other people that are considered for running that have done the same thing: Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.
Posted by: Soona at January 17, 2014 02:43 PM (OP7uy)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 17, 2014 06:41 PM (DpEwG)"
It reminds me a lot of "Dark Shaddows."
A friend at the time, RIP, loved the show. I watched it a few times and it was a soap opera.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 02:43 PM (V70Uh)
The additional revenue should be returned to taxpayers because it's
their money," Walker said. "The days of billion-dollar deficits and
double digit tax increases are over, and we have led ourselves into a
new era of financial responsibility and continued investment in
Wisconsin's priorities."
*swoon, fans self*
Posted by: Infidel at January 17, 2014 02:46 PM (O/fK8)
Posted by: CAC at January 17, 2014 02:47 PM (HbH9O)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 02:47 PM (vHRtU)
As for running an effective campaign and sending out the right message in the next Presidential election, quite worrying about it, that ship has sailed in terms of demographics.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 17, 2014 02:47 PM (IV4od)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2014 02:47 PM (lUXJH)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 02:48 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 17, 2014 02:48 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: redenzo at January 17, 2014 02:50 PM (WCnJW)
A friend at the time, RIP, loved the show. I watched it a few times and it was a soap opera.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 06:43 PM (V70Uh)
It was a soap opera. They added the vampires to keep it from getting cancelled.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 17, 2014 02:51 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 17, 2014 02:51 PM (qyfb5)
Burn a Tire
(normally reserved for Erf Day, but we'll make an exception)
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 02:51 PM (x3YFz)
That rail line was probably shut down when the area was logged out - and roads were built for those new fangled car thingies.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 02:51 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 17, 2014 02:52 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at January 17, 2014 02:52 PM (v5Oin)
Posted by: CAC at January 17, 2014 02:52 PM (HbH9O)
The only way I survived it was thinking of the eps as three 1.5 hour movies; instead of waiting for a series I am waiting for three movies to be released within a three week timespan. Which is probably just denial on my part but it helped. I get why people complain about the 18-21 ep system of American TV causing laziness or truncated writing, but that length at least allows you to go places, build characterization, and gives you more slack for lagging plot points. In a three episode series there is no room for error; your writing has to be pristine. This was not. Acting was stellar as always, but they can only be as good as what they are given to work with, and I think Moffat/Gatiss let their cast down this time around. If you know you have two years between a series you create, it had better be worth the &@*# wait, for all involved.
Have you seen the original Sherlock pilot, Ace? It is pretty unwatchable. The same elements there, but it is all about how you piece those elements together. I think all the eps this season needed one more rewrite at least to be on the level of season 1.
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 02:52 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 02:53 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 17, 2014 02:54 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2014 02:54 PM (lUXJH)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2014 02:54 PM (lZBBB)
Better our crook than theirs?
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 02:55 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 17, 2014 02:55 PM (WK8VM)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 17, 2014 02:56 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 02:56 PM (vHRtU)
Conservatives kid themselves if they think everyone just wants a fair chance at success. Too many people want to vote for benefits directly paid for by someone else. Walker is as conventional as they come in many respects. Reagan's message would not resonate as much today as it did then. That is the sad truth. There are millions more single parent families now who want them some government cheese.
People have been conditioned to accept benefits. There is no stigma whatsoever anymore for doing so. That wasn't as true in 1980 as it is now. Back then most people still valued hard work. Now many see it as a sucker play. We work hard and Wall Street gets bailouts when they (and government) screw up. It's everyone for himself now and liberals are going to have a built in advantage in that sort of environment.
Posted by: Chris Vaughn at January 17, 2014 02:56 PM (h+2SD)
Before I even heard about Star Wars, I saw a bumper sticker that said "Let the Wookie win."
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 02:56 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 17, 2014 06:56 PM (oFCZn)
I'm calling foul. you just drooled on yourself. Doesn't count.
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 02:57 PM (x3YFz)
I think he is largely taking the silent advice. Did you see that Kathleen Vinehout has dropped her run for the (D) side of the WI governors ticket? Injuries from a car wreck. The hand picked, self-funded exec from Trek now may have no primary opponents.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 02:57 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: imp at January 17, 2014 02:57 PM (L9AnB)
Posted by: Pete at January 17, 2014 02:59 PM (v5Oin)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 17, 2014 02:59 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 17, 2014 03:00 PM (lUXJH)
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 06:57 PM (x3YFz)"
I object. My Moochelle's perspective, a white person drooling upon himself IS the same.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 03:00 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 03:00 PM (vHRtU)
Romney did a shitty job of explaining that to the public.
A simple metaphor might have helped.
"You know how there are specialist doctors for cancer? And no matter how good and how highly trained those doctors are, they still unfortunately lose a large percentage of patients. Cancer is tough stuff even for the best doctor to work on."
"Well, when Democrats talk about closed businesses and lost jobs from Bain, remember that Bain is basically the equivalent of a cancer clinic for businesses that are really seriously sick to begin with. So give us some credit for our successes when they bring up our failures. And realize that darn near all those businesses were already well along the road to failure when Bain stepped in."
Posted by: torquewrench at January 17, 2014 03:00 PM (gqT4g)
But Romney was a great candidate, a great man, moral, intelligent, supremely competent, and no threat to non-Leftists.
Romney ran as good of a campaign as could have been expected. I honor the man for what he did.
I expected him to win on the Jimmy Carter analogy; there was no doubt in my mind.
I was wrong because the country has changed from the Jimmy Carter era. I did not understand that fully.
As bizarre, idiotic and as depressing as it may be, race was the sole deciding factor.
Affirmative action won, both times, for BO.
A legacy not ever mentioned is a horrible one. It would have been gloriously wonderful for a Rice or West to be president.
We got an incompetent who happened to be black, and that complicates things.
Posted by: Tonawanda at January 17, 2014 03:02 PM (mE1l+)
As you noted, it has been ever so. What appears to be different now is how the Feels are given primacy.
Look, I gave up on Walking Dead because the interesting bit about the show should be how are you going to survive this especially when you are actively being as stupid as possible and why isn't Daryl crossbowing you in the face because you are so stupid why and instead the show focused on but how do we feeeeeeel about all of this. Fuck that shit.
I'm trying to think of something recently that at least tried to balance that out and the first thing that comes to mind is Fringe. Yeah, there were feels but it was balanced by attempts at moving the plot forward.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 17, 2014 03:02 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 17, 2014 03:03 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 07:00 PM (vHRtU)"
Is this from personal experience? Last time I checked (decades ago) pot is an aphrodesiac and liquor kills your dong.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 03:03 PM (V70Uh)
One of Ronald Reagan's best and most reliable campaign trail applause lines was his relating the story of the hard-hat construction worker who came up to him and said, "I've never been hired to work for a poor man."
The idea that businesses and the wealthy create _job opportunities_ for those who don't own businesses and aren't wealthy. Neatly boiled down to one folksy anecdote.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 17, 2014 03:04 PM (gqT4g)
125 CAC, what has Walker been saying about immigration reform? I recall you freaking out about 1 comment be made some months ago.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 06:48 PM (PlTXA)
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He dances around on it. Which made my heart sank. But considering the crowd of people who could otherwise become President...I've forgiven him for it. Now if he can take a cue from his past life and be "Silent" on that one...
Posted by: CAC at January 17, 2014 06:52 PM (HbH9O)
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Yeah, it made my heart sink too, CAC.
It was like when Perry made that remark about "don't have a heart".
I can forgive both of them for it, if they will just shut up about it.
Personally, I would love to see a Perry/Walker ticket in 2016.
Two guys with years of executive experience and good conservative leadership.
Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2014 03:06 PM (Wq5le)
This is from my own personal experience. Liquor/dong is a lot like liquor/dart-throwing. I got better and better with both until at drink number 5 or so, I went off the f*cking brink.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 03:07 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: Chris Pagano at January 17, 2014 03:07 PM (M1BOQ)
Posted by: --- at January 17, 2014 03:08 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 17, 2014 03:08 PM (oFCZn)
Stacey Dash I think, in her podcast interview with Adam Carolla, talked about the law of the streets. Growing up where she did that law, self preservation and sufficiency, trumped all. (If you owe someone a debt and you don't pay, you can't just keep kicking that can down the street; you WILL have to pay for it at some point or you will get seriously messed up. A natural law our government skirts.) Conservatism is in perfect tune with the law of the streets, we just need someone to actually point this out who actually believes it, is not just spouting pretty platitudes of sound and fury signifying nothing.
Stacey Dash for Walker's press secretary? I would listen to every press conference, hah, girl is awesome.
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 03:09 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 17, 2014 03:09 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: Pete at January 17, 2014 03:09 PM (v5Oin)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 17, 2014 03:10 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 17, 2014 03:10 PM (2A/T+)
Posted by: SH at January 17, 2014 03:10 PM (3ky+E)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 03:11 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 17, 2014 03:12 PM (U1Tts)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 17, 2014 03:12 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 03:13 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: SH at January 17, 2014 03:13 PM (3ky+E)
I sourly recall that this is one of the ways that the Mitt mafia sold him as the nominee: that he would use his sooper seekret Harvard MBA managerial abilities to run the most remorselessly organized campaign ever.
Cue the high tech fiasco that was ORCA. Half-functional, and that half mercilessly hacked by OFA black hats.
At least Walker's low tech organization seems to have delivered for him.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 17, 2014 03:15 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: SH at January 17, 2014 07:13 PM (3ky+E)<
Why?
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 03:15 PM (PlTXA)
Romney brought a silk hanky to a knife fight.
It was painful to watch.
I would like to have someone in the Whitehouse who is not-a-lawyer.
Or an Ivy League-er.
Perry/Walker fills that wish.
Walker didn't even go to college, right? ...Which I have no problem with, but the elitists would hammer him about that if he were the lead on the ticket.
Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2014 03:16 PM (Wq5le)
So you're comparing it to a student body president race, and it is the nice, clean-cut, straight A student versus the supposedly cool slackery one that promises free soda machines and movie mondays? Yeah, I have no clue which one will win.
I did like the nice student though. A lot. Shame the LIV sheeple are suckers.
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 03:16 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 17, 2014 03:16 PM (itCai)
Posted by: SH at January 17, 2014 03:18 PM (3ky+E)
Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2014 07:16 PM (Wq5le)<
I think he is only a semester from graduating, actually.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 03:18 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 17, 2014 03:18 PM (U1Tts)
Posted by: rickl at January 17, 2014 03:18 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: toby928© at January 17, 2014 03:18 PM (QupBk)
What is Walker's 2A stance?
This is my litmus test. Don't recall ever reading about his position there.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 17, 2014 03:19 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 03:19 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 17, 2014 03:20 PM (itCai)
Posted by: SH at January 17, 2014 07:18 PM (3ky+E)<
OK but college degree does not equal Ivy League. I don't care myself either way. I care more about what I see him do - and I am fine with what I see there.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 03:20 PM (PlTXA)
180...I think he is only a semester from graduating, actually.
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Ah. I didn't know that. Thanks.
Posted by: wheatie at January 17, 2014 03:21 PM (Wq5le)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 17, 2014 03:22 PM (itCai)
Posted by: SamIam at January 17, 2014 03:23 PM (Lh8u2)
Posted by: Martin Bashir at January 17, 2014 03:23 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Pete at January 17, 2014 03:23 PM (v5Oin)
I offer the 9 obeisances and 3 kowtows Sir.
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 03:23 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Adam at January 17, 2014 03:23 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at January 17, 2014 03:24 PM (iB0Q2)
His favorite anal lube. MegaStrapOn is a bitch...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 03:25 PM (vHRtU)
Dr who?
It was always the plot lines. You just don't have entertainment without plot lines, and companions. See, Roy Rodgers was just another singing cowboy, but with a good companion like Andy Devine, why that was Television!
Just look at Hopalong Cassidy and his horse Topper. Without Gabby Hayes that show was nothing. And don't forget The Lone Ranger and his faithful Native American Spirit Guide. Pure entertainment.
I love American Television. and movies, and I love my President. I don't hate anyone.
Happy. . Happy..lovie...lovie that's what I believe. If you can't be with the one you love, then love the won. Because we all love winners, and our President is a winner.
Posted by: Ivan Turkloamenuff at January 17, 2014 03:25 PM (FQpTC)
However, the best part is that the "average score" is also higher than Yglasias's.
ROFLMAO
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 17, 2014 03:26 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 03:27 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: --- at January 17, 2014 03:27 PM (MMC8r)
If his mere presence, or the Hawaii taxpayer trip, weren't enough of a gift for her, there is always the time tested practice of letting you underling pick out a gift for you. So the question really is, how good of taste does Valerie Jarrett have?
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 03:27 PM (BF+2f)
I heard from some Marines on Detail that she tastes like the floor of a SF taxicab on New Years morn...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 03:29 PM (vHRtU)
And don't forget The Lone Ranger and his faithful Native American Spirit Guide
Posted by: Ivan Turkloamenuff at January 17, 2014 07:25 PM (FQpTC)
I played a redskin, but the liberals always referred to me as a handsome well endowed man of undetermined national origin.
Posted by: Tonto aka Jay Silverheels at January 17, 2014 03:30 PM (pJF+c)
Posted by: --- at January 17, 2014 03:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 17, 2014 03:32 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: UGAdawg at January 17, 2014 03:33 PM (e/9tl)
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 03:33 PM (x3YFz)
I'm getting a haircut tonight and am bored of my old hairstyle, but am clueless as to what I might want to differently. My hair is currently short, chin length in front, slightly shorter in the back, with bangs. Any suggestions from the 'Ettes are appreciated!
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 03:35 PM (BF+2f)
Obama's push to get presidential term limits overthrown is going to called "12 Years A Slave" thus the Oscar crossover.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 17, 2014 03:36 PM (Rax2C)
Any suggestions from the 'Ettes are appreciated!
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 07:35 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Kate Upton at January 17, 2014 03:37 PM (pJF+c)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 17, 2014 03:37 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2014 03:38 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 03:38 PM (6nn3Y)
Posted by: Martin Bashir at January 17, 2014 03:38 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2014 03:39 PM (TIuBC)
That's highly colonic of you, tangonine. I'll be there with bells on but I just hope it isn't at 8:30 p.m.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 17, 2014 03:41 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2014 03:42 PM (TIuBC)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 07:38 PM (6nn3Y)
Apologies for being a heteronormative bigot! Of course you can chime in. I shall give you a present as penance. *hands garrett a hipstery onesie*
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 03:42 PM (BF+2f)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzw2sfNN0Ac
Enjoy, 'ettes
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 03:42 PM (x3YFz)
;^)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 17, 2014 03:43 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 03:43 PM (Lirg1)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 03:45 PM (Lirg1)
Posted by: filbert the nood-invoker at January 17, 2014 03:45 PM (2gjPx)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2014 03:45 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 03:46 PM (6nn3Y)
How's that XL pipeline environmental impact study working out for you V?
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 17, 2014 03:46 PM (o3MSL)
Poor impulse control, eh?
Over compensating for low self esteem?
Hey, I know what will make you feel better. Let's sit here next to the camp fire, make smores and sing campfire songs. What do you say?
Just hang on for three more years and this long national nightmare will be over.
Posted by: Ivan Turkloamenuff at January 17, 2014 03:46 PM (FQpTC)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2014 03:47 PM (TE35l)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 03:47 PM (vrBZs)
I kinda like the Cousin Itt look.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 17, 2014 03:48 PM (IV4od)
got our first lady for her 50th birthday? I would love to know
The lucky broad--
He graced her with his absence.
Posted by: JeanQ at January 17, 2014 03:48 PM (82lr7)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 03:50 PM (Lirg1)
Well, and voter fraud without a carefully planned and organized Republican response. It's not as though this business of ballots in car trunks, and buses going from precinct to precinct, is something new. It really cranked up in the late 1990s and it's been gangbusters ever since.
The fundamental problem is that a lot of the GOP are scared to confront this because they'll inevitably get called nasty names. Raciss!
Except, um, they'll call anyone who opposes them the nasty names anyway. Might as well give them a fight they'll remember.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 17, 2014 03:50 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: filbert the nood-invoker at January 17, 2014 03:50 PM (2gjPx)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2014 03:52 PM (TIuBC)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 17, 2014 03:52 PM (TE35l)
Is it some kind of Moronette special?
If we all were in the same room, no one could tell us apart.
Posted by: Mindy at January 17, 2014 03:53 PM (Bs5ky)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 17, 2014 03:53 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 17, 2014 03:53 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2014 03:54 PM (TIuBC)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 03:54 PM (6nn3Y)
Posted by: filbert the nood-invoker at January 17, 2014 03:55 PM (2gjPx)
Posted by: oejay44cday at January 17, 2014 03:55 PM (Qo8l0)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 17, 2014 03:56 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 03:57 PM (Lirg1)
Posted by: filbert the nood-invoker at January 17, 2014 07:55 PM (2gjPx)
Filbert, if that doesn't work, nothing will.
Posted by: Mindy at January 17, 2014 03:58 PM (Bs5ky)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 17, 2014 03:58 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 03:58 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 17, 2014 07:56 PM (Rax2C)
Oh. See. Now, that right there isn't going to work at all. I prefer spidey thongs, but there's many banana hammocks to choose from back near the doughnuts.
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 03:58 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 07:57 PM (Lirg1)<
Why yes. Yes, we would.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 03:59 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: filbert the nood-invoker at January 17, 2014 04:00 PM (2gjPx)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:00 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: irright at January 17, 2014 04:01 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: irright at January 17, 2014 08:01 PM (DtNNC)<
For sure he could have done it the 2nd time.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:02 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 17, 2014 04:02 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2014 04:04 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2014 07:52 PM (TIuBC)
Adorable! LOL, yes similar I suppose, but without all the colors. I wonder if my cat would tolerate a wig for a quick pic, or just pull it off and attack it...
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 04:05 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:05 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 17, 2014 04:05 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: filbert the apparently ineffectual nood-invoker at January 17, 2014 04:05 PM (2gjPx)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:06 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: irright at January 17, 2014 04:07 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:08 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: filbert the apparently ineffectual nood-invoker at January 17, 2014 08:05 PM (2gjPx)
Bacon, rookie.
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 04:08 PM (x3YFz)
They brought Moriarty in way too soon. They killed him off way too soon.
Fuck em.
I am enjoying "Elementary".
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 04:08 PM (V70Uh)
Okay, this is the kind of stuff I think I'm reading or hearing when a migraine is coming on. I also smell things that aren't there.
Posted by: Mindy at January 17, 2014 04:09 PM (Bs5ky)
I won't vote for another McCain. And I keep my promise - I didn't vote the top ticket in 2012.
'Because principles'. Which I didn't see from the Romney/Ryan ticket.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 08:06 PM (vrBZs)
Cruz/Walker? I'd bite.
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 04:09 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:10 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 04:11 PM (6nn3Y)
A moron walks into a bar and sits with the Wendy's commercial ginger and Chelsea Clinton. At decision point, will he make the correct ass bandit decision or choose the one with a great personality?
Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 17, 2014 04:11 PM (pJF+c)
Posted by: irright at January 17, 2014 04:11 PM (DtNNC)
Should we wind up with another McCain, I will do a write in.
And vote straight ticket otherwise. I firmly believe that down ticket is as important as the Presidency.
So there won't be any sitting out from this corner.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 17, 2014 04:11 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:12 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 17, 2014 04:12 PM (Rax2C)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 08:11 PM (6nn3Y)<
I have to undo a lifetime a muscle memory. I have used circles on catfish, sturgeon, and halibut with success.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:12 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: filbert the apparently ineffectual at January 17, 2014 04:14 PM (2gjPx)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 08:10 PM (PlTXA)
Guess I better get ready for a migraine.
Posted by: Mindy at January 17, 2014 04:14 PM (Bs5ky)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 04:14 PM (6nn3Y)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:14 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: H Badger at January 17, 2014 04:15 PM (3xvbc)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/all-disney-movie-posters-40.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:15 PM (whKdw)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2014 04:15 PM (TIuBC)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 17, 2014 04:16 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 04:16 PM (6nn3Y)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:16 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: Mindy
I'll put a garage in the cheek of a caterpillar's bazooka!
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 17, 2014 04:16 PM (nZiT2)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 17, 2014 04:16 PM (kxSZr)
Epic. Fail. Emphasis on 'epic'.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 08:12 PM (vrBZs)"
For me, the story was over at the end of the film with James Spader and Kurt Russell. I have NEVER watched the series.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 04:16 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: filbert the apparently ineffectual at January 17, 2014 08:14 PM (2gjPx)
Qwitcher whinin and get the goddam bacon.
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 04:17 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:17 PM (whKdw)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2014 04:18 PM (TIuBC)
http://tinyurl.com/otoye5b
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 04:19 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:19 PM (PlTXA)
Clearly I am drinking too much, or not enough.
It's just gibberish.
I'll go with, "Not enough."
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 17, 2014 08:16 PM (4Mv1T)"
These are "epic" threads. Go back 300 comments and then come back. Some of them do make sense.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 04:19 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 17, 2014 04:21 PM (TIuBC)
The problem I always had with Stargate was very simple. I kept expecting Morgaine kri Chya to walk through the gate on her horse with Vayne her liegeman just a step behind on his horse. And as Carter and them stare stupidly, Morgaine will remove from its sheath Changeling and order the gate to shut down.
Like Dr. Who, Stargate SG-1 was merely popcorn.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:21 PM (whKdw)
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 04:21 PM (x3YFz)
If you can pull that off, may I please have permission to say..How YOU doin'?
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:22 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: ScoggDog at January 17, 2014 04:23 PM (6/+vz)
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at January 17, 2014 04:23 PM (yE8uc)
Love Moriarty in Elementary, love the whole show actually. It has really come into its own.
Is much more respectful of Sherlock's empathy than the BBC one, which I appreciate. Sherlock is an odd duck but I never saw him as a sociopath, or a manic pixie.
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 04:23 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: soothsayer'lc at January 17, 2014 04:24 PM (TIuBC)
Posted by: soothsayer'lc at January 17, 2014 04:24 PM (TIuBC)
Time to go see if the rod guides are dry enough to handle the blank. I expoxyed them in place prior to wrapping with quick set stuff.
Rod may turn out okay.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 17, 2014 04:25 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 04:25 PM (Lirg1)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 04:25 PM (6nn3Y)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:25 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:26 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: filbert the uncaring at January 17, 2014 04:26 PM (2gjPx)
Posted by: Mindy (Cupcake) at January 17, 2014 04:26 PM (Bs5ky)
Email if you want my thinking on this... good shit...
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at January 17, 2014 04:27 PM (vHRtU)
Posted by: soothsayer'lc at January 17, 2014 04:27 PM (TIuBC)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 17, 2014 04:27 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 17, 2014 04:28 PM (yz6yg)
Since we just seem to be hanging around waiting for the ONT, thought someone might want to check this out via breitbart.
NJ finances are not so hot.
Posted by: Dandolo at January 17, 2014 04:28 PM (0XBx+)
Stargate as a window to Egypt's pantheon? I would disagree a bit. After all they never defeated Sehkmet by getting her drunk on blood colored beer like in one of the old stories. Or how Isis got Ra gravely ill so she could learn his true name. Or how about Ptah or Mut?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:29 PM (whKdw)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 04:29 PM (6nn3Y)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 17, 2014 04:29 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: soothsayer'lc at January 17, 2014 04:29 PM (TIuBC)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:30 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:31 PM (whKdw)
Gee thanks, now I am suddenly ravenous, that sounds amazing. Recipe? Love rice noodles.
Posted by: LizLem at January 17, 2014 04:31 PM (BF+2f)
:/
Originally didn't think the Elementary theme was workable, but they have done well with it. And Lucy L is still quite pleasing to the eye (at least mine).
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 17, 2014 04:33 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: filbert the easily distracted at January 17, 2014 04:33 PM (2gjPx)
Posted by: Mindy (Cupcake) at January 17, 2014 04:34 PM (Bs5ky)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:34 PM (whKdw)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:34 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 04:35 PM (V70Uh)
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Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:36 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: Mindy (Cupcake) at January 17, 2014 04:36 PM (Bs5ky)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 04:36 PM (Lirg1)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 04:36 PM (6nn3Y)
Posted by: Bill R. at January 17, 2014 04:36 PM (2bheT)
Posted by: Kellen Winslow at January 17, 2014 04:36 PM (jGDB3)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 17, 2014 04:37 PM (vrBZs)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:37 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:38 PM (whKdw)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 04:40 PM (Lirg1)
Posted by: Kellen Winslow at January 17, 2014 08:36 PM (jGDB3)
Boston MA comes to mind!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 17, 2014 04:40 PM (o3MSL)
Debbie Washerman-Shclitz.. remember the space case lady in the band?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:40 PM (whKdw)
Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2014 04:42 PM (6nn3Y)
How I wish that I could even think you were making this up!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 17, 2014 04:42 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Mindy (Cupcake) at January 17, 2014 04:43 PM (Bs5ky)
Posted by: filbert the uncaring at January 17, 2014 08:26 PM (2gjPx)
Now that's more like it!
Posted by: tangonine at January 17, 2014 04:43 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 17, 2014 04:44 PM (itCai)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 04:44 PM (Lirg1)
Scott Walker in Japanese is Scott Wokkah.
Posted by: Muad'dib
Spot on. Except for the 'Scott' part. And the Fozzy bear part
Sukotto Uwookaa
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 17, 2014 04:44 PM (nZiT2)
Posted by: Mindy (Cupcake) at January 17, 2014 04:45 PM (Bs5ky)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:46 PM (whKdw)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 17, 2014 04:46 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 17, 2014 04:47 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Mindy (Cupcake) at January 17, 2014 04:47 PM (Bs5ky)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 17, 2014 04:47 PM (o3MSL)
Nah. They'd get Scott just fine. They might say Scoat until they heard the right way. I'm talking Japanese who are used to gaijin.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:48 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: filbert the entomologically devout at January 17, 2014 04:49 PM (2gjPx)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 04:49 PM (Lirg1)
Maybe I should have had SCOAMF as Beaker (with his me, me, me, I, I, I and all).
Biden... maybe the Swedish Chef?
Posted by: The Republic Strikes Back at January 17, 2014 04:53 PM (DpLZ2)
He always knew exactly why and what he was going to do - and he knew what the outcome would be.
I'm not sure he has all of the charisma some desire, but he does have the rock solid competence.
Thank goodness for all of the GOP governors. I pray one of them is our candidate in 2016.
Posted by: carolina at January 17, 2014 04:53 PM (WQ+JZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 17, 2014 04:54 PM (whKdw)
Posted by: Muad'dib
In katakana on a biz card you'd have to come up with something other than the hybrid.
http://bit.ly/1dxvQdN
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 17, 2014 04:55 PM (nZiT2)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 04:56 PM (Lirg1)
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 04:56 PM (PlTXA)
Posted by: D-Lamp at January 17, 2014 04:57 PM (bb5+k)
Technically, I'd have to say yes. But I'd probably go with Rizzo the Rat.
Posted by: The Republic Strikes Back at January 17, 2014 04:58 PM (DpLZ2)
Posted by: Lauren at January 17, 2014 04:59 PM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 05:00 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 17, 2014 05:00 PM (itCai)
Posted by: Vendette at January 17, 2014 05:01 PM (Lirg1)
I've spent almost 2 years of my life there. If you are dealing with big multinational companies in big cities like Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya, etc just stick with English on your card. I have no experience dealing with smaller companies other than as them being suppliers - and then it didn't matter what was on my card. You may be (probably are) totally right in a different business context.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 17, 2014 05:02 PM (PlTXA)
At this point it looks to me that Scott Walker is the most ideal candidate of the bunch. I'm waiting for a few more specifics when it comes to amnesty. If he comes out convincingly against it, then he's got my support.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at January 17, 2014 05:03 PM (S11Oq)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque
You mean that 8-bit jaggy font in every Jpnse instruction manual?
Yeah, that pisses me off on a regular basis.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 17, 2014 05:05 PM (nZiT2)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 17, 2014 05:06 PM (V70Uh)
NCKate at January 17, 2014 06:13 PM (x6fKj)
Althouse voted for Obama in 2008 but for Romney in 2012. And she certainly voted for Walker for governor. I'm not a big Althouse fan - I find the lecturing condescending tone she takes with her commenters, many of whom are smarter, deeper thinkers than she is, to be really annoying. But give credit where credit is due. She did a great job of covering the Madison protesters during the whole recall broohaha. That blog was a much better source of information about what was really going on than the MSM was. And she's a UW law professor. Believe me, if you know Madison lefties, it took some balls to do what she did.
Of course, having lived in Madison for as long as she has has scrambled her brain a bit. I give her credit for not being 100% PC sheep.
I've enjoyed rubbing Obama voters noses in the mess of Ocare too. But at some point, unless you're dealing with hardcore leftists, you have to quit with "told ya so, you idiot!" and you know, actually try to persuade them. Some Obama voters are winnable. Hell, I was a Carter voter -in 1980!! - and I eventually saw the light. Some smart conservatives I met and argued with had something to do with that. If they had just sat there and called me a dope and told me I just wanted free shit, I would have said, "Fuck you." Instead, they made me think about my knee-jerk liberalism.
Posted by: Donna V. at January 17, 2014 05:06 PM (R3gO3)
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Posted by: Cameo Appearance at January 18, 2014 06:17 AM (R8yKQ)
Every bluefin tuna tested in the waters off California has shown to be contaminated with radiation that originated in Fukushima. Every single one.
Posted by: habanero at January 21, 2014 08:59 AM (qQk+U)
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