February 27, 2014

Jonathan Turley: We Are At a Constitutional Tipping Point And No One -- Especially the Judiciary -- Seems to Care
— Ace

Yup.

There's an old saying, said of Europeans' endless fretting about fascism growing in America: "Fascism is forever descending upon America, but landing in Europe."

Liberals are pretty sure that fascism is growing whenever there's a Republican in office, but when a progressive president begins asserting he has the right to rewrite the laws by his own personal whim, they just don't notice.

Or they pretend not to.

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1 Doom.

Posted by: Y-not at February 27, 2014 11:29 AM (zDsvJ)

2 Nothing we all here have not been saying for the last 4 years.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 11:29 AM (t3UFN)

3 It can't happen here though,right?

Posted by: steevy at February 27, 2014 11:29 AM (zqvg6)

4 “Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” I am sure I heard that somewhere? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 11:31 AM (t3UFN)

5 I resemble that remark

Posted by: John Roberts at February 27, 2014 11:31 AM (Q6pxP)

6 I remember saying to my father four or five years ago that this was going to happen. Why can't I always be right about good things that benefit me personally?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 11:32 AM (oFCZn)

7 Meanwhile Ben Affleck and Seth Rogen were a big hit testifying as experts in front of congress yesterday.  Priorities, man, priorities.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 11:32 AM (XUKZU)

8 Seems to cut across the idea that the incumbent GOPers are due deference ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 27, 2014 11:32 AM (XKKNz)

9 Power corrupts, Absolute power means there is a progressive in office. Also see DiBlasio in the dictionary

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 11:32 AM (t3UFN)

10 Remember when "unitary executive" was the scariest thing?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 27, 2014 11:33 AM (A0sHn)

11 Tipping what?

Posted by: Hank Johnson (D - Geology) at February 27, 2014 11:33 AM (t8ySh)

12

@6 Why can't I always be right about good things that benefit me personally?

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Maybe you could be right about good things that'll benefit the rest of us?  Maybe you could predict that in four or five years I'll be a multi-millionaire?

 

Posted by: junior at February 27, 2014 11:33 AM (UWFpX)

13 they just don't notice.
Or they pretend not to.

Or they cheer him on.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 11:33 AM (ZKzrr)

14 Look, if you were designing a new government from scratch and you recognized that 100 was a mean IQ, with half the people coming in under that, would you give them the vote as the people over 100?

Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2014 11:34 AM (u2a4R)

15 Yeah, he's right.  And several scholars at that hearing said we were allowing another Caesar to be created. Paraphrasin.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 11:34 AM (T2V/1)

16 "We Are At a Constitutional Tipping Point And No One -- Especially the Judiciary -- Seems to Care"

It's a tax.

Posted by: The Dread Justice Roberts at February 27, 2014 11:34 AM (gqT4g)

17

Indeed, the lawlessness of these judges is beyond me.  Read the dissent in the 9th Cir. conceal carry case and tell me exactly how this judge is not impeached or removed.

 

Fucking POS tyrant should be tarred and feathered and run off the bench.

 

That or he is literally so fucking stupid he should be got rid of immediately.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 27, 2014 11:35 AM (tVTLU)

18 And who will Stand Up? If we can't even stand up to the mischievous and deleterious leftist-driven homosexual agenda, how will we ever stand up to obama and holder shredding the Constitution?

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 11:35 AM (tyz5J)

19 It's okay he's OUR tyrant. //Moonbat This is why I support break up Ace. We never covered for Bush like the newsies and 41-44% still backing Giggles cover for him. We can break-up and strt over orthese cocksuckers are going to kill us at some point. You don't steal this much power because what you're selling is so good or persuasive.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 11:35 AM (TE35l)

20 3 It can't happen here though,right? That's what I grew up thinking, back when Ronaldus Maximus was destroying the USSR. Now I weep for my country.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 11:35 AM (7ObY1)

21 We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain at February 27, 2014 11:35 AM (Q6pxP)

22 Heh. Howie Carr right now is doing Who is smarter, obama or ...?

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 11:36 AM (tyz5J)

23 We have nothing to fear with Barack Obama in the White House.

Posted by: John McCain at February 27, 2014 03:35 PM (Q6pxP)

 

Fuck you, John.  Ah, it still feels so good to say that.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (DrWcr)

24 6 Dack Thrombosis, Amen, I'm tired of being right about the depths the left will sink to. Just once I'd like to flash on the right 8 numbers instead.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (TE35l)

25 @4 Its meant ironically on this site, not literally.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (sRsX7)

26 There is no such thing as the Constitution.  I should know, I'm a constitutional scholar and I wrote nothing about it.

Posted by: Barack O'Stalin at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (Q6pxP)

27

The Rule of Law only matters when you wingnuts steal an election.

 

 

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (S+el1)

28 Turley is a principled liberal, him and what's his name make two.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (hn70M)

29 Just preserve the trappings of a Republic and no one will care that it has actually become a dictatorship.  Trust me on this.

Posted by: Augustus Caesar at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (8ZskC)

30 The first step is to include language in future appropriations bills that give standing to a few more folks to sue.

Posted by: Peter Russo at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (e8kgV)

31 Shhhh, don't rock the boat.  Obamacare will hand us a great victory if we lie still and show our belly.

--GOP

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (9PrpA)

32 Adolph Eichmann wrote about his attendance at the Wannsee Conference in which they formalized the Final Solution.  Eichmann thought that once the party leaders, like Reinhardt Heydrich who presided, told the lower level technocrats who were the main attendees what was up they would reject the idea and the conference would be a failure.  Instead, the technocrats willingly if not enthusiastically adopted the idea.  At that point Eichmann, like Pontius Pilate, washed his hands of the affair and preceded with the program.

Here we are. The cat is out of the bag.  And all are simply accepting that Obama and Holder can issue fiats or ignore laws as they see fit.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 11:37 AM (XUKZU)

33 Not to worry though.


The good news?  As Monty likes to say DOOM is upon us and it will all be fixed when the great burning occurs.  And we will finally get a flat tax.


The bad news?  The new leader for life will be Lord Humongous and that flat tax will be 75% of your "income", your best looking duaghter, and all your gasoline.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 11:38 AM (T2V/1)

34 Thanks to my Common Core approach to education, the youth of the country will never know about this mythical Constitution you speak of

Posted by: Bill Ayers at February 27, 2014 11:38 AM (Q6pxP)

35 This is why I support break up Ace. We never covered for Bush like the newsies and 41-44% still backing Giggles cover for him. We can break-up and strt over orthese cocksuckers are going to kill us at some point. National divorce or open the dance. The Constitution was never meant to be a suicide pact.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 11:39 AM (xZxMD)

36 btw, remember, oh 6 years ago, when all it took for instant fame and notoriety was a critical statement about Bush? If, say, Madonna's hair dresser's cousin's neighbor had a negative opinion about Bush, it made the news!

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 11:39 AM (tyz5J)

37 Frankfort School, Antonio Gramski. This is not about gay nuptials, it is a Trojan horse to attack the institutions of a marriage, the family, and organized religion. Next they will demand the Mormon church, or the Southern Baptists to marry them in their churches. Then when they baulk, get TFG and his thugs to fine them, take away their tax exempt status, and shut them down. Gay shit is the perfect club to attack traditional values with.

Posted by: jrcobbstr at February 27, 2014 11:40 AM (OGuBw)

38 Bow before me, I shall allow this to continue

Posted by: SMOD at February 27, 2014 11:40 AM (Q6pxP)

39 Howie Carr right now is doing Who is smarter, obama or ...?

This compost pile.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 11:40 AM (ZKzrr)

40 There is an incredibly simple test I use for any expansion of power which I may support. That test is would I want that power to be exercised by those whose political views are the opposite of mine. If no, then, nope, don't do it. This is of a piece with the Left = good, Right = bad discussion below. Of course the Left thinks that what Dear Leader is doing is fine. He means so very very very well. Of course it would be horrific if President Romney, to say nothing of President Cruz, were to do so the same thing because they are evil. There's no disconnect or cognitive dissonance there because the Left rejects the very notion that Republicans are of the same moral character as the Left. I've read this story. I know how this ends.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 27, 2014 11:40 AM (VtjlW)

41 Fuck you, John. Ah, it still feels so goodto say that. Fuck Juan McLame, Kelly Ayotte, Jan Brewer, the Weird Sisters, fuck any and all Vichy Republicans who walk hand in hand with Our Communist Overlords and submit to being used as Emmanuel Goldstein punching bags in the bargain. Fuck The Washington Generals of politics, the GOPe. The fucking quislings. Fuck them. Sideways. With a prickly pear cactus.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 11:40 AM (7ObY1)

42 Just preserve the trappings of a Republic and no one will care that it has actually become a dictatorship. Trust me on this.

Posted by: Augustus Caesar at February 27, 2014 03:37 PM (8ZskC)

So you're saying keep inviting Boner John to all the right parties?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 11:40 AM (XUKZU)

43 In my opinion, we can hire special prosecutors now, damn the accusations of racism, or we can have violence later.  Pick one.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 27, 2014 11:40 AM (ZkzmI)

44 But look at Barkys pants, the crease is wonderful.

Posted by: Killerdog at February 27, 2014 11:40 AM (RfVfI)

45 Interesting how Turley adds a qualifier before this statement to the effect "although I support the president's policiesÂ…" The policies themselves are anti-constitutional, let alone the procedures used to impose them on us. I suppose I should be happy that a libbo law professor is saying something must of us have screamed about for 5 years already. Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:41 AM (olDqf)

46 Remember how everything used to be an Intergalactic Crisis? When Georgia was invaded, that was Bush's fault, too.

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Year at February 27, 2014 11:41 AM (hHFOx)

47 Such glorious creases

Posted by: David Brooks at February 27, 2014 11:41 AM (Q6pxP)

48 Only an idiot, (sorry Anchoress), would believe it was just about gay wedding cakes.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 11:41 AM (tyz5J)

49 The judiciary mostly dance for the one what brung'em.  A big problem is instead of just doing their job, they think too much about who's going to like what, and what would Lenin do?

Posted by: dirks strewn at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (kfcYC)

50 37-why, that could never happen because the majority of gays will not allow the extremists to hijack their cause. Besides, if you just show some sensitivity, they will realize you are decent, acting out of actual conviction, and they will relent in their attacks.

Posted by: ejo at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (GXvSO)

51 I still firmly believe we could fix this with an Art V convention. If the convention is deadlocked on fixing it where it can not be manipulated and the commies want everything even though they are outvoted by the Red States, then the breakup occurs.


That is exactly what would have happened under the original convention.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (T2V/1)

52 I'm sure we all remember how dissent was patriotic right up until noon Eastern Standard Time on January 20th, 2009, after which dissent became rayciss.

If a conservative Republican (heaven forfend) is elected to succeed Barack Obama, you may reliably assume that in January of 2017, with similar precision, dissent will once again become patriotic in between ticks of the atomic clock.

In like manner, the arrogant and unconstitutional expansion of executive power was A Very Bad Thing and a Slippery Slope To Fascism when it was occurring under Republicans. So said, among others, then-Senator Barack Obama.

Then, bang on the mark, as soon as Obama became President, the arrogant and unconstitutional expansion of executive power became A Regrettably Necessary Step Forced On A Reluctant President By Systematic Obstructionism In The Republican Congress.

I absolutely guaran-damn-tee you that if a conservative Republican is sworn in in 2017 and attempts to govern the way Obama has, then just like clockwork and just as with "dissent", the professional left will do an instant 180, and executive power will once again be deemed A Very Bad Thing and a Slippery Slope To Fascism.

Fen's Law sees all, knows all, explains all.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (gqT4g)

53 "the youth of the country will never know about this mythical Constitution you speak of" Of which you speak, Bomber Bill.

Posted by: Common Core Rebels at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (hFL/3)

54 48 Only an idiot, (sorry Anchoress), would believe it was just about gay wedding cakes. Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 03:41 PM (tyz5J) Yummy cream filling! (cue John Valby, Dr. Dirty)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (olDqf)

55 I've read this story. I know how this ends.

Yes, it ends with a powerful America coming to the rescue.





oh

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Year at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (hHFOx)

56 How can you challenge the efforts of our great leader

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (Q6pxP)

57 Dammit. 1 thread off. Link to the full meeting http://tinyurl.com/ndz32kt

Posted by: RWC at February 27, 2014 11:42 AM (MtC8f)

58 Remember how everything used to be an Intergalactic Crisis? When Georgia was invaded, that was Bush's fault, too. Lincoln's fault.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 11:43 AM (xZxMD)

59 This is how liberty dies... with thunderous mehs.

Posted by: irright at February 27, 2014 11:44 AM (8GKDa)

60 We have to do this incrementally. Slowly, over a period of 50-100 years, we acquire the power to roll the Leviathan back.
 
That's just practical politics. The art of the possible. Making compromises with TFG and Harry Reid are in all our best interests. So what if they are lying sacks of shit that lie every time they open their mouths; we must work with them until we are in charge.
 
There's no other way. Patience, my friends.
 
(do I really need a sarc tag here?)

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 27, 2014 11:44 AM (cHZB7)

61 Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi 12m Unknown guys w/ weapon and Russian flags block all entrance-roads to Crimea - @tsnua pic.twitter.com/IZqoT23KOM

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 11:44 AM (ZPrif)

62 Sports fans, get ready to be accused of being a bitter racist because you don't denounce the "quenelle", a purported inverted Nazi salute executed by a French soccer player that earned him a 5 game suspension and is apparently the new big thing on the sports media social media outrage circuit. Friend's don't let friends quenelle.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 11:44 AM (ZshNr)

63 During Bush, it was great because we'd hear from many has-beens for the first time in ages. Remember that? Like if the guy who played the guitar in the Bay City Rollers had something nasty to say about Bush, he'd be instantaneously relevant again for a news cycle.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 11:44 AM (tyz5J)

64 51 Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 03:42 PM (T2V/1) Vic, I'm with you. The last bastion of whatever is left of our liberty and way of life now rests with the states' legislatures. That said, while we calmly embark on a legal, yet slow process to reverse course, the other side goes full speed ahead with any and everything illegal and underhanded to finish us off. This will take time and time is not on our side. And we still have 3 years left of this bastard and his droogs, let alone something hurtling at us from across the seas.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:44 AM (olDqf)

65 So Turley is saying that our elected officials are lying around on the porch, licking their balls, while Obama establishes a tyranny? Ridiculous - Congress has no nuts.

Posted by: tubal at February 27, 2014 11:45 AM (dPgcc)

66 Maybe you could predict that in four or five years I'll be a multi-millionaire? Unfortunately, bread will cost billions.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 11:45 AM (naUcP)

67

I find it amusing to compare Obama's latest stunt with one King George III of Great Britain.  George III wasn't just unpopular with the Colonials living in America.  He was also unpopular with his own Parliament for attempting to increase the power of the monarchy through various methods.  One of those methods was to publicly announce that certain laws that the King didn't much like would not be enforced.

 

Sound familiar?

 

Posted by: junior at February 27, 2014 11:45 AM (UWFpX)

68 Vic, I'm with you. Thirded.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 11:45 AM (7ObY1)

69 This is the way the world endsThis is the way the world endsThis is the way the world endsNot with a bang but a whimper.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 11:45 AM (XUKZU)

70 Mad King George was a minor-leaguer compared to Dear Leader. A punter, in Limey parlance.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 11:46 AM (7ObY1)

71 Should have just passed a redundancy law in 2009. Amateurs.

Posted by: Adolph at February 27, 2014 11:46 AM (Aif/5)

72 In my opinion, we can hire special prosecutors now, damn the accusations of racism, or we can have violence later. Pick one. Guess who has the authority to name a special prosecutor? Hint: Not Boehner or McConnell. Another hint: His last name rhymes with "boulder".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 11:46 AM (SY2Kh)

73 58 Lincoln's fault. Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 03:43 PM (xZxMD) "Oh my gawd! I freed the what???!!!" I keed! I keed! It's a routine from Firesign Theatre!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:47 AM (olDqf)

74 Its meant ironically on this site, not literally. Posted by: Kreplach at February 27, 2014 03:37 PM (sRsX7) And?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 11:47 AM (t3UFN)

75 Welcome to Hell.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 27, 2014 11:48 AM (5xmd7)

76 66 Unfortunately, bread will cost billions. Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 03:45 PM (naUcP) On sale at the Hostess outlet store...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:48 AM (olDqf)

77 Sharknado.

Little VIA is home sick today, so guess what we watched.


And I shared this original article with several people this morning.
Liberals included.
Nervous laughter when discussing the premise.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 27, 2014 11:48 AM (DPkKe)

78 did somebody say whimper???

Posted by: John Boehner at February 27, 2014 11:48 AM (Q6pxP)

79 Ridiculous - Congress has no nuts.

Gotta disagree. It's chock full of nuts.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 11:48 AM (ZKzrr)

80 69 This is the way the world endsThis is the way the world endsThis is the way the world endsNot with a bang but a whimper. Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 03:45 PM (XUKZU) More like a gang ass-fuck sans loob.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:49 AM (olDqf)

81 69 WalrusRex, M-O-O-N that spells SCOAMF

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 11:49 AM (TE35l)

82 69 This is the way the world endsThis is the way the world endsThis is the way the world endsNot with a bang but a whimper. Always loved that poem. And no, I will not turn in my man card. T.S. Eliot was da man.

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 11:49 AM (7ObY1)

83 280k Crimean Tartars (aka Turks) not too keen on Russian, want Turkey to protect them. Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR 39m New statement of #Turkey's MFA on #Crimea. Otherwords, why history matters: http://www.aa.com.tr/en/news/294354--turkey- closely-following-developments-in-crimea Â… - @SlawomirDebski |PR News #Ukraine

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 11:49 AM (ZPrif)

84 From Twitchy:

International Business Times UK reporter Ludovica Iaccino may write for a living, but has she got the words to explain this?

Last week, Iaccino penned an article claiming that the anti-government protests in Ukraine were being led by an “unnamed” “former Israeli army officer. Here’s the kicker: Iaccino’s source for that juicy piece of information was PressTV, the Tehran-based Iranian news network.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 11:49 AM (XUKZU)

85 Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 03:44 PM (ZshNr)

Except anti-semitism really is sweeping across enlightened Western Europe again.

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Year at February 27, 2014 11:49 AM (hHFOx)

86 I would have added- especially the Republicans, or at least they seem loathed to address it.

What Republicans have done is mere window dressing only accomplished as a political act after all the poll reading, wind direction checking and electoral analysis has been done.

My issue of course is their reaction is not intuitive, primal or immediate. That's a dead giveaway it is calculated and most likely an ephemeral tactic designed only to protect themselves- not anyone they are meant to serve.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 27, 2014 11:50 AM (GGCsk)

87 14 Look, if you were designing a new government from scratch and you recognized that 100 was a mean IQ, with half the people coming in under that, would you give them the vote as the people over 100? Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2014 03:34 PM (u2a4R) --------------------------- Actually, that 100 is more of a mode than an arithmetical mean or even median. I.e., it's what most people score, the top of the bell curve, so to speak. In any case, even if it were a mean, that doesn't mean that half of the people have an IQ below 100. You could have a group of ten people, all with an IQ of 100, where the mean would be 100. (But your point about the danger of letting idiots vote still stands!)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2014 11:50 AM (dfYL9)

88 It's like this Crimea thing is all complicated and shit.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 11:50 AM (ZPrif)

89
This is good.  Whom is he addressing here?  I'm guessing he was met with the sound of crickets?

Posted by: dan-O at February 27, 2014 11:50 AM (D0bIN)

90 Turley and others claim Bush was just as bad. Ask them to give a single example of Bush ignoring the plain text of any law and they shut right the fuck up.

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 27, 2014 11:50 AM (g3wv2)

91 Freedom is not free. We have come to a point where the political elites would rather get along than to risk their necks and get anything accomplished.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 27, 2014 11:51 AM (HVff2)

92 Except anti-semitism really is sweeping across enlightened Western Europe again. Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Year at February 27, 2014 03:49 PM (hHFOx) ??? Western Europe? Have you checked American College and University Campuses lately?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 11:51 AM (t3UFN)

93 39 Howie Carr right now is doing Who is smarter, obama or ...? This compost pile. Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 03:40 PM (ZKzrr) If SCOAMF (or the powers that put him where he is) is so dumb, then how is it that he's at the controls while we're hurtling headlong towards a singularity of Islamo-Commie making?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:51 AM (olDqf)

94 when youve lost jonathan turley... and pat caddell... and oprah...

Posted by: sound awake at February 27, 2014 11:52 AM (pk/NG)

95 280k Crimean Tartars (aka Turks) not too keen on Russian, want Turkey to protect them.


I love their sauce when I eat fish.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 27, 2014 11:52 AM (8ZskC)

96 Someone somewhere might be uncomfortable.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 27, 2014 11:52 AM (kVfSG)

97 We need a contest! Let's see who can best sum up obama's life story and rise to power in under 75 words. How did a boy (born in Hawaii, maybe) raised in Indonesia become an editor of the Harvard Law Review without ever writing anything for HLR, then become a senator, then become president, and then win a Nobel Prize?

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 11:52 AM (tyz5J)

98 And the next guy running from the Right needs to make plain they will take no precedents away from Obama's term. As far as establishing any precedents of Executive power, it will be as if the Obama years never happened.

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 27, 2014 11:52 AM (g3wv2)

99 Have you checked American College and University Campuses lately?

That, too.

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Year at February 27, 2014 11:52 AM (hHFOx)

100 85 Except anti-semitism really is sweeping across enlightened Western Europe again. Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Year at February 27, 2014 03:49 PM (hHFOx) The frightening thing is anti-Semitism is chic and enlightened!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:53 AM (olDqf)

101 Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR 39m New statement of #Turkey's MFA on #Crimea. Otherwords, why history matters: http://www.aa.com.tr/en/news/294354--turkey- closely-following-developments-in-crimea Â… - @SlawomirDebski |PR News #Ukraine ----- Yeah, no reason why we should care....

Posted by: Adam at February 27, 2014 11:53 AM (Aif/5)

102 97 Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 03:52 PM (tyz5J) It was a dark and stormy nightÂ…

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:53 AM (olDqf)

103 If SCOAMF (or the powers that put him where he is) is so dumb, then how is it that he's at the controls while we're hurtling headlong towards a singularity of Islamo-Commie making?

I think you answered your question with your parentheses.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 11:53 AM (ZKzrr)

104 Meanwhile Ben Affleck and Seth Rogen were a big hit testifying as experts in front of congress yesterday. You know who else was testifying before Congress yesterday? A former co-founder of Greenpeace Patrick Moore (who also happens to be pro-nuke energy, btw) who said: “There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth's atmosphere over the past 100 years.” He added, “Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species. There is ample reason to believe that a sharp cooling of the climate would bring disastrous results for human civilization.” I do not recommend holding your breath waiting for this to be reported on your 6 o'clock, 7 o'clock, 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock, or 11 o'clock news.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 27, 2014 11:53 AM (CnA98)

105 Turley and others claim Bush was just as bad. Ask them to give a single example of Bush ignoring the plain text of any law and they shut right the fuck up. Posted by: spongeworthy at February 27, 2014 03:50 PM (g3wv2) Actually Turley does NOT claim President Bush was as bad, simply that this drift towards this started before obama and and does include President Bush

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 11:53 AM (t3UFN)

106 No doubt anti-Semitism is rampant all over, times are hard, the mouth-breathers always lean that way in lean time, but has anyone ever heard of the "quenelle" before?

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 11:54 AM (ZshNr)

107 93 JJ Sefton, The poblem is our side is self-policing on escalation. "We're the good guys we follow the law." That defeatism after my rage attack on Friday I was afraid was a heart attack that tore up my ribcage nd abdominal cavity? Yeah I am accepting we will never say "no" like Donk-Ass hippies did to Nixon. Freedom is fucked.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 11:54 AM (TE35l)

108 98 And the next guy running from the Right needs to make plain they will take no precedents away from Obama's term. As far as establishing any precedents of Executive power, it will be as if the Obama years never happened.

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 27, 2014 03:52 PM (g3wv2)


Someone posted this morning that McConehead has already said if Republicans take the Senate they will go back to the 60 vote cloture rule!

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 11:54 AM (T2V/1)

109 Sir Boehner will champion us.  He's a man of the people!

Posted by: Fritz at February 27, 2014 11:55 AM (UzPAd)

110 IQ test to vote.  No thanks.  I know way too many liberals who are not idiots in general.  They are only dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to cause and effect in politics and gub'mint pgm vs human nature interactions. 

Posted by: palerider at February 27, 2014 11:55 AM (dkExz)

111 103 I think you answered your question with your parentheses. Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 03:53 PM (ZKzrr) Or how about "how the fuck did the powers that be wrest control from us supposedly smart people?"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:55 AM (olDqf)

112 97 - Well, the way things are shaping up, it seems he was born in a small Austrian village to an obscure civil servant.

Posted by: tubal at February 27, 2014 11:55 AM (OYe5i)

113 but has anyone ever heard of the "quenelle" before?

I may have read about it somewhere:
http://minx.cc/?post=346835

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 11:55 AM (ZKzrr)

114 No doubt anti-Semitism is rampant all over, times are hard, the mouth-breathers always lean that way in lean time, but has anyone ever heard of the "quenelle" before? Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 03:54 PM (ZshNr) The anti-semitism on American College Campuses as nothing to do with hard times. These are spoiled self indulged kids of the middle and upper class who were/are brain washed by their hippie parents and the scum teachers today

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 11:56 AM (t3UFN)

115 40 There is an incredibly simple test I use for any expansion of power which I may support. That test is would I want that power to be exercised by those whose political views are the opposite of mine. If no, then, nope, don't do it. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 27, 2014 03:40 PM (VtjlW) ------------------------- That's a damned good test.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2014 11:56 AM (dfYL9)

116

F**k Turley.  He is part and parcel of the degradation of the system going back years.  Viewed more seriously, the current "tipping point" is a difference of degree, not kind, from the lawless post-constitutional decline going on for years.  Of which he has been a typical mindless cheerleader.

 

And why should the judiciary "care"?  While of course not true without exception, the judiciary (the part that deals with constitutional matters, not criminal or admiralty or traffic court) is arguably the most lawless branch of all.  Once their perilous unconstitutional role as unaccountable final arbiter was cemented by inertia and practice, it was just a matter of time. 

 

One could say it actually required the decline of a serious legislative branch to reach this point, as the constitution did include safeguards for the accountable branch to rein in a rogue judiciary, they simply haven't been much used.

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 11:56 AM (afQnV)

117 Speaking of greenhouse gases... No shit, I do not remember a Winter this cold for this many days. The forecast shows the first few days of March to have lows in the single digits. I do not remember Ever a March being that cold in my lifetime. There is no greenhouse effect. It is complete bullshit.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 11:56 AM (tyz5J)

118 We Are All Fascists Now

Posted by: Newsweek at February 27, 2014 11:56 AM (Ua6T/)

119 110 IQ test to vote. No thanks. I know way too many liberals who are not idiots in general. They are only dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to cause and effect in politics and gub'mint pgm vs human nature interactions. Posted by: palerider at February 27, 2014 03:55 PM (dkExz) You have to fill out a tax return and OWE money to the government. 1 vote per dollar payed to Uncle Sugar. HA!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:57 AM (olDqf)

120 @74 Just a cautionary reminder, I've seen people banned for thinking the mencken quote posted on the masthead gave license for offering appropriate remedies to what has been loosed on this country. There is nothing that can be done unfortunetely, we've crossed over and the only thing we can do is bitch about it. Sucks but that is the reality.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 27, 2014 11:57 AM (uXvLX)

121 I miss the good old days of Midnight Basketball.

Posted by: Lars Kasch at February 27, 2014 11:57 AM (DAevm)

122 Jonathan Turley: We Are At a Constitutional Tipping Point And No One -- Especially the Judiciary -- Seems to Care Nor do the masses of tv watching Americans. They see the people inside their tee-vee's telling them that the only reason they haven't been showered with riches is that those evil conservatives keep getting in their boyfriend's way. They're told that President Boyfriend CARES about people like them, and unless their own personal ox gets gored, make those other people give me free shit, fuck the Constitution.

Posted by: kbdabear at February 27, 2014 11:58 AM (aTXUx)

123 Turley seems less annoying than when he was my prof ...

Posted by: gm at February 27, 2014 11:58 AM (/kBoL)

124 So you've all heard of this "quenelle" thing?

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 11:58 AM (ZshNr)

125 No doubt anti-Semitism is rampant all over, times are hard, the mouth-breathers always lean that way in lean time, but has anyone ever heard of the "quenelle" before? Yes, Ace covered it once before. It was popularized by an anti-Semitic French comic / activist / conspiracy theorist nutbag.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 11:58 AM (SY2Kh)

126 Tipping is not a city in ChinaÂ… (sign at deli counter)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 11:58 AM (olDqf)

127 I see that George Will made the sidebar. Why? He's a shithead.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 11:59 AM (tyz5J)

128 Under requirements to vote after MY Art V convention you would have to pay a net amount of tax (and the constitution would forbid all forms of socialist welfare) to vote. and all taxes would be flat. It would be a flat tax on all forms of income regardless of source.


SS et al would be phased out over a 10 year period.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 27, 2014 11:59 AM (T2V/1)

129 See the link now, will check it out. All new to me.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 11:59 AM (ZshNr)

130 "And the next guy running from the Right needs to make plain they will take no precedents away from Obama's term. As far as establishing any precedents of Executive power, it will be as if the Obama years never happened" When we take the Senate, we need to use every precedent Reid set to the max. Every policy, courtesy, rule and tradition that Reid tossed away to get his way needs to be thrown back at him in spades. If we fold and return to the way things were, it will just happen again and again.

Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2014 12:00 PM (u2a4R)

131 Whatever.

Posted by: Elizabeth Scalia at February 27, 2014 12:00 PM (cL+9V)

132 Have you checked American College and University Campuses lately? Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 03:51 PM (t3UFN) I think that if there was less government money keeping all these universities in business, we would have far less advocacy for socialism amongst the ranks of their professorship.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 12:00 PM (bb5+k)

133 126 I see that George Will made the sidebar. Why? He's a shithead. Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 03:59 PM (tyz5J) Annoying bastard. Dumps all over conservatives and yet claims to be King Con. Douchebag Beltway fuck-faced pseudo intellectual sell out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:00 PM (olDqf)

134 So you've all heard of this "quenelle" thing? Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 03:58 PM (ZshNr) I used to bet the quenelle at jai alai all the time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 12:00 PM (t3UFN)

135 129 Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2014 04:00 PM (u2a4R) Running from the right is all well and good. What we need are people who will fucking govern from the right.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:01 PM (olDqf)

136 The bad news? The new leader for life will be Lord Humongous and that flat tax will be 75% of your "income", your best looking duaghter, and all your gasoline. Molon labe.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at February 27, 2014 12:01 PM (1hM1d)

137

alex, in all seriousness, and ready for the mockery it might invite, that's not my test, at all.  Mine is:  is an expansion of power absolutely needed for the public interest, including the calculus that foregoing the expanded power poses greater risks than adopting the expanded power.  And all of that has to - has to - fit within the plain meaning (only meaning) of the constitution.  The thing can be amended if need be.

 

So it's not about how I view such expanded power from my perspective, at all.  It's not about me - nothing is.  And these things aren't engineering calculations, it's lots of gray area.  But feeling uncomfortable that Joe Biden vs. Scott Walker might have a power doesn't even occur to me.

 

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 12:01 PM (afQnV)

138 No doubt anti-Semitism is rampant all over, times are hard, the mouth-breathers always lean that way in lean time, but has anyone ever heard of the "quenelle" before?

Posted by: Lincolntf

Yes, from a weird blog called Space of Ades or something like that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 27, 2014 12:01 PM (XKKNz)

139 Douchebag Beltway fuck-faced pseudo intellectual sell out. /wipes teary eyes I raised you right.

Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 12:02 PM (tyz5J)

140 "Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 03:40 PM (7ObY1)"

Would you please  quit holding it in. Keeping these things to yourself is not good.

Please tell us how you really feel, it will feel good to let it out.

Posted by: GMB who was the soldier sitting next to her. at February 27, 2014 12:02 PM (nkPV9)

141 127 >>>>That makes too much sense Vic. A fair tax system, votes for people who had a vested interest in the system. Heaven forbid that common sense take over the halls of congress.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 27, 2014 12:02 PM (HVff2)

142 Turkey strongly against Crimea leaving Ukraine. How does this affect us? Little thing called NATO. --- Turkey stresses the territorial integrity of Ukraine, and is closely following developments in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, with which it has strong cultural and historical ties, TurkeyÂ’s Foreign Minister said Thursday. "Turkey attaches importance to democracy and democracy-based political stability in Ukraine's future," Ahmet Davutoglu said during a press conference Thursday. "Crimea is important for Turkey as it is Turkey's door to Ukraine and it is also important for our Tatar compatriots." Turkey believes that Crimean Tatars and other Ukrainian citizens must live together as loyal citizens while also preserving their cultural identity, he added.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 12:02 PM (ZPrif)

143 No shit, I do not remember a Winter this cold for this many days. The forecast shows the first few days of March to have lows in the single digits. The last time this type of winter happened Time Magazine predicted we were going into an Ice Age. That's so long ago I think I actually subscribed to them then. As to March weather, 25 degrees below average is going to be 'normal' for much of the country for at least the first week. Imagine a summer day 25 degrees above 'normal' and how much attention it would garner from the WarmingNaziMedia? You're not going to hear 1% of that noise.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 27, 2014 12:02 PM (CnA98)

144 A "quenelle" is when you take some sort of dough like substance and shape it with two teaspoons into a sort of football shaped nugget. Where's CBD?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:02 PM (olDqf)

145 The price I pay for missing threads...

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 27, 2014 12:03 PM (ZshNr)

146 110 IQ test to vote. No thanks. Probably not. However, I do like the Starship Trooper's citizen/civilian distinction.

Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2014 12:03 PM (u2a4R)

147 Pretty sure this testimony will be ignored by the networks. They have more important things to report like Kardashian has a kid or Miley does something.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 27, 2014 12:03 PM (9Bdcz)

148 141 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 04:02 PM (ZPrif) Oh goody! Shooting war between Erdogan and Pooter!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:03 PM (olDqf)

149

but when a progressive president begins asserting he has the right to rewrite the laws by his own personal whim, they just don't notice.

 

They notice.  Because it's part of the plan.

As long as Reid controls the Senate, Obama will act with impunity.

Posted by: --- at February 27, 2014 12:04 PM (MMC8r)

150 If SCOAMF (or the powers that put him where he is) is so dumb, then how is it that he's at the controls while we're hurtling headlong towards a singularity of Islamo-Commie making? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:51 PM (olDqf) "The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president." --Vaclav Klaus-- (former Premier of the Czech Republic.)

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 12:04 PM (bb5+k)

151 123 >> So you've all heard of this "quenelle" thing?
 
Yes, because this both a smart military blog and a smart French blog.
 
Verstehen?

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 27, 2014 12:04 PM (cHZB7)

152 Douchebag Beltway fuck-faced pseudo intellectual sell out. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:00 PM (olDqf) But even a fucking blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile. Although I am giving Will the benefit of the doubt. I have a hard time reading yet alone listening to the pompous dufus.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 27, 2014 12:04 PM (HVff2)

153 Posted by: Joe Biden ...you always make me laugh. thnx.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 27, 2014 12:05 PM (o4L+R)

154 Let's see who can best sum up obama's life story and rise to power in under 75 words. Posted by: soothie at February 27, 2014 03:52 PM (tyz5J) "Chance Gardner. " What did I win?

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 12:05 PM (bb5+k)

155 "You know who else was testifying before Congress yesterday? A former co-founder of Greenpeace Patrick Moore (who also happens to be pro-nuke energy, btw)"

I'm massively pro-nuke.

But Moore is just a hack and a shill spouting opinions for money.

NO ONE who has ever had anything to do with Greenpeace at any stage of its existence should be considered intellectually substantive or ethically reliable.

Let's remember how Greenpeace came into existence. It was originally called The Committee To Stop The Wave, or Don't Make A Wave, or several variants thereupon. (Not a very organized bunch.)

Uh, what wave? A metaphorical wave of ecological decline?

No. A real wave. This was when the Nixon administration was proposing to conduct a short below-ground nuclear weapons test series in the Aleutians, at Amchitka. (If you look in the encyclopedia under "inhospitably barren howling waste in the middle of nowhere," it has a picture of Amchitka.)

The Stop The Wave (soon to be "Greenpeace") bunch averred that if the largest shot in the Amchitka series were to go off, it would trigger the biggest tsunami in history, twenty stories tall, which would sweep southeast out of the Aleuts and completely destroy the entire western seaboard from Valdez to Baja, scouring everything clean down to the bedrock. THAT was the "wave" they were worked up about.

The Amchitka shots went off on schedule. Nary a ripple was noted. But the ignorant, hysterical fuckwits behind the protest are still with us. Including Moore, who was just as taken in by the completely irrational and unscientific monster-wave nonsense as the rest of them were. Remember that when you hear him testify as a hired gun. He needs to vanish from public life. All of them do.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 12:05 PM (gqT4g)

156 Shooting war between Erdogan and Pooter! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:03 PM (olDqf) Erdogan is a pimp, but I didn't know until today, it was Merckel all the time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 12:05 PM (t3UFN)

157 It appears 'Bammy isn't the only one overstepping his boundaries.  From he Corner at NRO:

“First lady Michelle Obama — whose staff was key in getting the proposal out of FDA, where the labeling revamp has been in the works for 10 years — is slated to announce the changes at a Let’s Move! anniversary event at the White House with HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg”

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 12:06 PM (XUKZU)

158 I used to bet the quenelle at jai alai all the time Psssssst. #3 in the 8th at Santa Anita......

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 12:06 PM (xZxMD)

159 149 Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 04:04 PM (bb5+k) He just described 50 years of Billy Ayers "teaching" the teachers that "teach" the children. How to undo THAT?????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:06 PM (olDqf)

160

but has anyone ever heard of the "quenelle" before?

 

Before last month, no.  HR has the link.  It's hard to keep up with all the world's hate.  You get some info on a smart military blog, other in other reading, but usually things have to come to a bloody head before we pay attention to it from across one or the other pond.

 

An earlier thread was about how you can't directly compare American political positions to those in other systems.  From a European perspective, we're all centrists.  In Italy there are sizeable minorities who self-identify as communists and fascists.  It's not crypto-anything and it's not the insult that one side flings at the other. 

 

In Germany you can't have an honest discussion of the rise of Nazism because, among other things, some books like "Mein Kampf" are banned.  England doesn't have a First Amendment.  As boned as we are, we're not Europe.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 27, 2014 12:07 PM (A0sHn)

161 That makes too much sense Vic. A fair tax system, votes for people who had a vested interest in the system. Heaven forbid that common sense take over the halls of congress. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 27, 2014 04:02 PM (HVff2) And wimmen can't vote unless they are married/

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 27, 2014 12:07 PM (R8hU8)

162 Posted by: SE Pa Moron at February 27, 2014 04:02 PM (CnA9 Here in western WI we are looking at overnight lows below 0 through March 7. Yup, the global warming is such a weapon of mass destruction.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 27, 2014 12:07 PM (HVff2)

163 A quenelle is just a quenne that's made for fags.

Posted by: Realist, Man. I'm a REALIST! at February 27, 2014 12:07 PM (8ZskC)

164 You have to fill out a tax return and OWE money to the government. 1 vote per dollar payed to Uncle Sugar. HA! Speaking as someone who net pays taxes, but overpays during the year thus getting a very modest return, I say f*** that noise. Just make it net payer with no outstanding balance.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 27, 2014 12:07 PM (naUcP)

165 155 Shooting war between Erdogan and Pooter! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:03 PM (olDqf) Erdogan is a pimp, but I didn't know until today, it was Merckel all the time Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 27, 2014 04:05 PM (t3UFN) "Bibi, can you get me off the hook? For old time's sake?" (and you thought I was going to say SCOAMF!)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:07 PM (olDqf)

166 142 No shit, I do not remember a Winter this cold for this many days. The forecast shows the first few days of March to have lows in the single digits. - It's interesting that the path of the "polarVortex" that all of the weather channel slugs are yapping about is the exact same track that the last glaciation took. When it scoured the continent. And flattened the area that now contains Chicago. I keep praying about it.

Posted by: tubal at February 27, 2014 12:07 PM (GLv5I)

167 mes amis vous n'avez rien à craindre d'un régime de Robespierre

Posted by: Monsieur McCain at February 27, 2014 12:07 PM (aTXUx)

168 Someone posted this morning that McConehead has already said if Republicans take the Senate they will go back to the 60 vote cloture rule! Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 03:54 PM (T2V/1) It is commentary such as this that makes me want to beat the fuck out of him.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 12:08 PM (bb5+k)

169 "Chance Gardner. "

I don't grok the metaphor.  He wasn't malicious, or seeking to destroy.  He was just naive.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 12:08 PM (ZKzrr)

170 159 As boned as we are, we're not Europe. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 27, 2014 04:07 PM (A0sHn) Â…yet.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:08 PM (olDqf)

171 He just described 50 years of Billy Ayers "teaching" the teachers that "teach" the children. How to undo THAT????? Public trials followed by public executions?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 12:09 PM (xZxMD)

172 Say guys, does anyone know if Paul Anka was particularly fussy about his band?

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 27, 2014 12:09 PM (XKKNz)

173 More unfortunate book covers:

http://tinyurl.com/l8xsqts

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 12:09 PM (XUKZU)

174 I can be slow on the uptake so forgive me for saying what you already know.


That said, I think I've finally figured out why the Republicans seem to be so feckless in dealing with Obama.  Obama simply cannot fail.   If a single liberal in congress were to ever even appear to be the least bit reticent or resistant to anything Obama is doing or proposes to do, the entire party would be exposed to the taint of "potentially racist leanings.'


That is precisely the reason why Republicans are gun shy about openly challenging Obama more strenuously.  Right now,  thanks to years of newspeak from the left, the whole of the right already carries that taint, and it works nearly perfectly for the left.  And it's not only racism - the war on women, freedom of choice, wanting old people and children to die, and fiscal concepts whereby slowed growth in spending is considered draconian cuts - all that BS...


Republicans cannot win this and Democrats will not allow themselves to share the taint of newspeak "Racism".  That taint cannot be allowed to fall from the right, or even be perceived to be shared by the left.


Game over.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 27, 2014 12:09 PM (BZAd3)

175 167 It is commentary such as this that makes me want to beat the fuck out of him. Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 04:08 PM (bb5+k) To paraphrase Betty Bacall, "he doesn't have to say anything and he doesn't have to do anything."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:09 PM (olDqf)

176 Turley and others claim Bush was just as bad. Ask them to give a single example of Bush ignoring the plain text of any law Yeah, like the fucking start date of the law. It is in black and white, not open for debate and penumbras.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 27, 2014 12:10 PM (9Bdcz)

177 Meanwhile Ben Affleck and Seth Rogen were a big hit testifying as experts in front of congress yesterday. Priorities, man, priorities.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 03:32 PM (XUKZU)



Experts at what?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 12:10 PM (FQEMb)

178 Someone posted this morning that McConehead has already said if Republicans take the Senate they will go back to the 60 vote cloture rule! FACEPALM

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 12:10 PM (7ObY1)

179

Here's a question:

 

Is there any national personality who has been more right on principle and tactics than Mark Levin.

 

That guy is fucking fantastic.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 27, 2014 12:10 PM (tVTLU)

180

This is not your father's Fascism...

 

This is a new and improved Fascism...with the threat of being labeled 'racist' if you speak up about it.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at February 27, 2014 12:10 PM (QsHQT)

181 125 Tipping is not a city in ChinaÂ… (sign at deli counter)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:58 PM (olDqf)
It's a serious subject.

Posted by: Hank's Johnson at February 27, 2014 12:10 PM (kVfSG)

182 You have to fill out a tax return and OWE money to the government. 1 vote per dollar payed to Uncle Sugar. HA! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 03:57 PM (olDqf) I have been advocating this for at least a decade. Every time I bring it up, people scream bloody murder at me about how everyone should get equal votes. I say fuck that. You should get votes in proportion to your contribution to the upkeep of the government for which you are voting. And no, the rich won't be able to outvote the middle class under this arrangement.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 12:11 PM (bb5+k)

183 The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president." Agreed. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The fault lies primarily in our collective mirrors. Washington DC hijinks are a result, not the cause. Once can credibly blame the MSM, education system and institutional leftism for why our populace thinks and votes the way they do, but the fact is that they do not share our opinions and priorities. Our current political situation reflects that.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 12:11 PM (SY2Kh)

184 mes amis vous n'avez rien à craindre d'un régime de Robespierre

Posted by: Monsieur McCain at February 27, 2014 04:07 PM (aTXUx)

 

Fous toi, Jean!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 12:11 PM (DrWcr)

185 And wimmen can't vote unless they are married/

In exchange for getting to keep my entire paycheck instead of having it siphoned out to fund subsidies for other people's families? Otherwise, GFY.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 12:11 PM (ZKzrr)

186 Let's see who can best sum up obama's life story and rise to power in under 75 words. 1. I was born a poor half-black child 2. ??? 3. PROFIT!

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 12:12 PM (7ObY1)

187 166 et vous voyez comment ce s'est terminé

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 27, 2014 12:12 PM (R8hU8)

188 179 This is not your father's Fascism... This is a new and improved Fascism...with the threat of being labeled 'racist' if you speak up about it. Posted by: wheatie at February 27, 2014 04:10 PM (QsHQT) Yeah. In the old days if you spoke out, you got dragged into an alley and beaten to a pulp. Progress!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:12 PM (olDqf)

189 185 Let's see who can best sum up obama's life story and rise to power in under 75 words. 1. I was born a poor half-black child 2. ??? 3. PROFIT! Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 04:12 PM (7ObY1) THREAD FUCKIN' WINNER!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:12 PM (olDqf)

190 127 Under requirements to vote after MY Art V convention you would have to pay a net amount of tax (and the constitution would forbid all forms of socialist welfare) to vote. Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 03:59 PM (T2V/1) You mean we would repeal the worst part of the 24th amendment. THAT amendment is where we cut the nation's financial throat.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 12:13 PM (bb5+k)

191 Anyway, libs would just game the IQ tests. What, you don't think they would?

Sh*t, they've already done it. We're already backwards idiots and they're smart.

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Year at February 27, 2014 12:13 PM (hHFOx)

192

Yeah. In the old days if you spoke out, you got dragged into an alley and beaten to a pulp.

We're bringing back the good old days.

Posted by: New Black Panther Party at February 27, 2014 12:13 PM (DrWcr)

193 kdb.   Oh it is not just the masses watching TV.   I work for a gub'mint funded research group.   They actually said at the same meeting this morning that "you all know science funding has been way down the last 5 years" and (pretty sure this was illegal)  you all know you should vote to keep our Dem senator in office.    Just dumber than a box of rocks about the fact that the Dems in complete control at the start of that 5 years and then being obstinate and insisting on just continuing resolutions to protect their (non science) pork but oh if we keep them in power funding will improve because they (now?) realize that science is important to grow the economy.
   And the guy who said that, is damned smart,  scientist ego I suppose but it depresses me that a generally smart person would not realize that NO it is cutting red tape and stimulating the economy which could increase funding for science and tech not that funding tech instead of welfare and (these are liberals) 'warfare' can grow an economy.  

Posted by: palerider at February 27, 2014 12:13 PM (dkExz)

194 alex, in all seriousness, and ready for the mockery it might invite, that's not my test, at all. Mine is: is an expansion of power absolutely needed for the public interest, including the calculus that foregoing the expanded power poses greater risks than adopting the expanded power. And all of that has to - has to - fit within the plain meaning (only meaning) of the constitution. The thing can be amended if need be. So it's not about how I view such expanded power from my perspective, at all. It's not about me - nothing is. And these things aren't engineering calculations, it's lots of gray area. But feeling uncomfortable that Joe Biden vs. Scott Walkermight have a power doesn't even occur to me. Posted by: non-purist at February 27, 2014 04:01 PM (afQnV) I was, perhaps, less than thoroughly clear. Said test that I elucidated above was the last step of power analysis. Let us say I go through your analysis and determine that, yes, this is a proper expansion of power. The test to which I referenced is a last step check to be positive that my determination that such power is appropriate is reasoned as opposed to a rationalization. How do you do that? Invert. Yes, I believe that I should do this. Okay. How about if someone who is against me uses that power on me? Would I begin screaming, instantly, that such power was beyond the proper role of government? If so, then, no, that power is not appropriate. We're not actually putting forward opposing tests, merely complementary ones.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 27, 2014 12:14 PM (VtjlW)

195 Meanwhile Ben Affleck and Seth Rogen were a big hit
testifying as experts in front of congress yesterday. Priorities, man,
priorities.


Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 03:32 PM (XUKZU)

Experts at what?

-

Affleck on the Congo and Rogen on Alzheimers.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 12:14 PM (XUKZU)

196 The judiciary, or SCOTUS, don't care because, with Obamacare, they helped shred the Constitution and, in fact, tore it asunder. Aiding and abetting.

Our only hope to get some ground back is the Senate this year. After that, turtles all the way down, I guess, until we speak either Russian or Chinese. As Joey would say, this election could be a bfd.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Judge of Raciss Morons at February 27, 2014 12:14 PM (baL2B)

197 They actually said at the same meeting this morning that "you all know science funding has been way down the last 5 years" and (pretty sure this was illegal) you all know you should vote to keep our Dem senator in office.

Maybe your Dem senator should have asked Harry Reid to take some time off from buggering young boys to pass a budget.

Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 12:15 PM (ZKzrr)

198 It's interesting that the path of the "polarVortex" that all of the weather channel slugs are yapping about is the exact same track that the last glaciation took. When it scoured the continent. And flattened the area that now contains Chicago. When they were putting footings into the ground for the new WTC they had to dig down about 50 feet to find bedrock. Bedrock that *used* to be the bottom of a f**king mountain. Until a glacier came along and scraped it off the face of the Earth. But I'm a 'denier' -- in the sort of outrageous projection that this band of merry communist wannabes engage in on a daily basis.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 27, 2014 12:15 PM (CnA98)

199 191 Yeah. In the old days if you spoke out, you got dragged into an alley and beaten to a pulp. We're bringing back the good old days. Posted by: New Black Panther Party at February 27, 2014 04:13 PM (DrWcr) I think they should be careful about that.

Posted by: tubal at February 27, 2014 12:15 PM (GLv5I)

200 I suspect if a Republican wins in 2016 we'll finally see actual organized violence from the left. They really believe it's their country now and they'll rule in perpetuity.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 27, 2014 12:16 PM (oFCZn)

201 He just described 50 years of Billy Ayers "teaching" the teachers that "teach" the children. How to undo THAT????? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 04:06 PM (olDqf) Fire.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 12:16 PM (bb5+k)

202 THREAD FUCKIN' WINNER!!!! why thank you kindly! (and I know he wasn't really born poor, in case anyone was wondering)

Posted by: Citizen X at February 27, 2014 12:16 PM (7ObY1)

203 Experts at what? ------ Rogan-Alzheimer's Affleck- Congo No I'm not joking.

Posted by: Adam at February 27, 2014 12:16 PM (Aif/5)

204 202 Experts at what?
------

Rogan-Alzheimer's

Affleck- Congo


No I'm not joking.

Posted by: Adam at February 27, 2014 04:16 PM (Aif/5)

 

If you'd said smoking weed, I would have believed it more readily.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 27, 2014 12:17 PM (DrWcr)

205 That is precisely the reason why Republicans are gun shy about openly challenging Obama more strenuously.

Nah, at least half of the R's are full-on progs. Most of the rest are what we'd would consider "D's of yesteryear" (at best). It's no more complicated than that and it's all you need to know.

Posted by: Mega, AoS Commenter of the Year at February 27, 2014 12:17 PM (hHFOx)

206 I don't grok the metaphor. He wasn't malicious, or seeking to destroy. He was just naive. Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 04:08 PM (ZKzrr) A clueless fool who everyone else perceives as a genius. Okay, an "EVIL" Chance Gardner.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 12:18 PM (bb5+k)

207 Affleck- Congo

♫ Benj'mins in the CONGO

We didn't start the fire ... ♪

Posted by: Billy Joel at February 27, 2014 12:18 PM (t8ySh)

208 196.  Well that is *my* thinking but I didn't stand up and contradict my program manager and supervisors.   I love a lot of things about my job but days like this make think I should be more principled and resign. 

Posted by: palerider at February 27, 2014 12:19 PM (dkExz)

209 If you'd said smoking weed, I would have believed it more readily. --------- Rogan may have been smoking weed beforehand. I didn't watch it but from what I've read he spent half the time cracking jokes.

Posted by: Adam at February 27, 2014 12:19 PM (Aif/5)

210 J. Turley is  now  on the list of  pending  IRS audits. Lucky for him, it's a pretty long list.

Posted by: Roy at February 27, 2014 12:20 PM (VndSC)

211 It's interesting that the path of the "polarVortex" that all of the weather channel slugs are yapping about is the exact same track that the last glaciation took. When it scoured the continent. And flattened the area that now contains Chicago. When they were putting footings into the ground for the new WTC they had to dig down about 50 feet to find bedrock. Bedrock that *used* to be the bottom of a f**king mountain. Until a glacier came along and scraped it off the face of the Earth. But I'm a 'denier' -- in the sort of outrageous projection that this band of merry communist wannabes engage in on a daily basis. Posted by: SE Pa Moron at February 27, 2014 04:15 PM (CnA9 When I lived in NEPA and I was asked all sneeringly if I denied global warming, I would tend to snap back that considering where I was standing was under a mile thick sheet of ice 10,000 years ago, I was going to go with, yes, I believe that the globe warms up.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 27, 2014 12:20 PM (VtjlW)

212 Did I miss the two year anniversary Trayvon Martin tribute?

Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2014 12:20 PM (u2a4R)

213 40: "He means so very very very well." "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - CS Lewis

Posted by: the Butcher at February 27, 2014 12:21 PM (++HCY)

214 "Affleck on the Congo and Rogen on Alzheimers."

Sure am glad that congress has got all our national problems taken care of so they have time for that shit.


Posted by: lowandslow at February 27, 2014 12:21 PM (IV4od)

215 This is a joke, right??

The judiciary of the federal government is the "last word" on judging the limits of the federal government's authority.

Nothing circular about that, at all! < /sarc >

I'm baffled that so few people have a problem with this.

Posted by: goy at February 27, 2014 12:21 PM (oGez1)

216 Yeah. In the old days if you spoke out, you got dragged into an alley and beaten to a pulp. We're bringing back the good old days. Posted by: New Black Panther Party Go ahead Trayvon. Bring fists to a gunfight.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 12:21 PM (xZxMD)

217 Did I miss the two year anniversary Trayvon Martin tribute?

Posted by: jwest at February 27, 2014 04:20 PM (u2a4R)

 

He is risen!  Hallelujah!

Posted by: Jesse Jackson at February 27, 2014 12:21 PM (DrWcr)

218 Boehner: The subject Obama and I most agreed on at our meeting yesterday was Â… immigration

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 27, 2014 12:21 PM (XUKZU)

219 I think the priority now is to do whatever can be done to make sure the 2016 elections are not "postponed."

Posted by: Anon at February 27, 2014 12:22 PM (PQ3tU)

220 The last time a Special Counsel was appointed in accordance with 28 CFR Part 600 was the little dust up over Valerie Plame.  Nothing to see here, move along now.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 27, 2014 12:23 PM (kxSZr)

221 PA Moron -- Anyone with an inclination to investigate beyond the Weather Channel would put their bets on an extended cooling period coming, soon. Precession patterns, sunspot activity, and highly predictable cycles on a macro scale indicate that flannel lined jeans sales will increase.

Posted by: tubal at February 27, 2014 12:23 PM (pm/oS)

222 214 This is a joke, right?? The judiciary of the federal government is the "last word" on judging the limits of the federal government's authority. Nothing circular about that, at all! < /sarc > I'm baffled that so few people have a problem with this. Posted by: goy at February 27, 2014 04:21 PM (oGez1) ------------------- Yeah, it's a joke all right. Although the poor guy doesn't seem to know it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2014 12:23 PM (dfYL9)

223 Had a couple old gay friends, one a good buddy I grew up with. Used to go party with him, he would take me to some real freak shows, the men are complete tramps. They are both dead of AIDS. When Dave got it and was fading fast the fucks would not even shack his hand, total assholes. None were around to see him die. Sodomy will kill you, nature has a way of correcting it's self.

Posted by: jrcobbstr at February 27, 2014 12:23 PM (OGuBw)

224 I like angry Heather.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 27, 2014 12:24 PM (F2BKh)

225

Margarita/Goy:

 

If I may intervene, the 2d Am is the "last word" on judging the limits of the federal government's authority.

 

LOL

Posted by: prescient11 at February 27, 2014 12:25 PM (tVTLU)

226 Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 27, 2014 04:09 PM (BZAd3) You are absolutely right. The reason no one calls this man down is fear of getting hit with the "Racism" hammer. What is truly ironic is that Obama's incompetence feeds the real racist's arguments. It also is making people a lot less concerned about being called one. Over time, it loses credibility, like the boy who cried "Wolf" too many times.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 27, 2014 12:25 PM (bb5+k)

227 Is ... is it possible Obama WANTS Civil War?  That he is pushing and pushing because he desperately thinks he can win an insurrection?

Slightly on-topic -- why Giggles?  Where did that nickname for Shit Midas come from?  What wildly inappropriate situation did he laugh about?

Posted by: acethepug at February 27, 2014 12:26 PM (F8WDc)

228 It's also 2 years since the Costa Concordia. Now THAT was a tragedy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 27, 2014 12:26 PM (olDqf)

229 I got excited when I heard that Holder was in the hospital.

Posted by: Carol at February 27, 2014 12:26 PM (5M5r7)

230 "We Are At a Constitutional Tipping Point And No One -- Especially the Judiciary -- Seems to Care"
-----------
Oh, they used to care.

We took care of that.

Posted by: NSA at February 27, 2014 12:27 PM (VjL9S)

231 The last time a Special Counsel was appointed in accordance with 28 CFR Part 600 was the little dust up over Valerie Plame. Nothing to see here, move along now. And it was the GW Bush administration that appointed him. Good luck convincing Holder to do the same.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 12:27 PM (SY2Kh)

232 142 No shit, I do not remember a Winter this cold for this many days. The forecast shows the first few days of March to have lows in the single digits.

=====

Yahoo news headline this morning: "World Temperatures in January 4th highest on record!!!11!!!!1!!"

That Polar Vortex thingy was just a local news story here. And shut up.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 27, 2014 12:27 PM (YmPwQ)

233 184 And wimmen can't vote unless they are married/ In exchange for getting to keep my entire paycheck instead of having it siphoned out to fund subsidies for other people's families? Otherwise, GFY. Posted by: HR at February 27, 2014 04:11 PM (ZKzrr) Like your style. You can proxy vote for me, any day.

Posted by: tubal at February 27, 2014 12:27 PM (pm/oS)

234 >> ""Meanwhile Ben Affleck and Seth Rogen were a big hit testifying as experts in front of congress yesterday. Priorities, man, priorities.""

"Experts at what?"

Shit, does it matter?

The Democrats in Congress, during the big scare over Alar in apples, brought in for public testimony before the committee, the noted epidemiological and toxicological authority Dr. Meryl Streep, M.D., Ph.D.

Part of the reason that Hollyweird adore the Democrats is that Democrats cuddle and cosset the Hollyweirders in their belief that they -- vapid and empty-headed entertainers who don't know shit about anything outside of showbiz -- are secretly Very Smart People who could Succeed At Anything They Turned Their Hands To.

Normally these supergenius celebrities just, y'know, hide their light under a bushel to prevent dazzling the rest of us with their laser brilliance. Because the rest of us would feel pokey and stupid by comparison to them if they were always out in the open with it, and it would give us a sad. And they don't want to give us a sad. They're good that way.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 12:28 PM (gqT4g)

235 Rogan-Alzheimer's

Affleck- Congo


No I'm not joking.

Posted by: Adam at February 27, 2014 04:16 PM (Aif/5)



You can't make shit like this up.  Did Jon Leibowitz ridicule those two dickholes being considered "experts" on those topics where there are real scientists and academics whose jobs it is to know a shitton of info on those topics.  Not to mention State Dept employees, even under Reporting for Doody, who should be totes up to speed on Congo?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 27, 2014 12:28 PM (FQEMb)

236 Old thread:

 sozialistische [i/]

Yah, its what da Zi in Nazi stands for, zee.

Posted by: Heinreich Schickelgruber[/i][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 12:28 PM (DL2i+)

237

Is ... is it possible Obama WANTS Civil War? That he is pushing and pushing because he desperately thinks he can win an insurrection?

 

His entire administration has been setting the table of the 'radical right-wing terrorist/tea party/veteran racist insurgency.'  He'll go as radical as he wants, and if anything happens, he knows that the media will helpfully propagandize things his way.

Posted by: --- at February 27, 2014 12:29 PM (MMC8r)

238 226 - He wants ANYTHING that will justify a FEMA rollout. Any pretext will do.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 27, 2014 12:29 PM (F2BKh)

239 "... the exact same track that the last glaciation took. When it scoured the continent. And flattened the area that now contains Chicago."

From your mouth to God's ears.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 12:30 PM (gqT4g)

240 224 If I may intervene, the 2d Am is the "last word" on judging the limits of the federal government's authority. LOL Posted by: prescient11 at February 27, 2014 04:25 PM (tVTLU) -------------------- Yes, it is.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2014 12:31 PM (dfYL9)

241 237 226 - He wants ANYTHING that will justify a FEMA rollout. Any pretext will do. Posted by: ScoggDog at February 27, 2014 04:29 PM (F2BKh) Well, he is a dumb shit.

Posted by: tubal at February 27, 2014 12:31 PM (pm/oS)

242 167 Someone posted this morning that McConehead has already said if Republicans take the Senate they will go back to the 60 vote cloture rule!

Posted by: Vic at February 27, 2014 03:54 PM (T2V/1)


It is commentary such as this that makes me want to beat the fuck out of him.


====

It also makes me wonder why some on our side are so against primarying him. Is Bevin that much of a "RWNJ"?

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 27, 2014 12:31 PM (YmPwQ)

243 Precession patterns, sunspot activity, and highly predictable cycles on a macro scale indicate that flannel lined jeans sales will increase. Milankovitch cycles. Should only mean shortly we will return to about 7,000 years of glaciation to the United States and Canada -- the so-called 'breadbasket' of the world. Minor item, easily overlooked by a couple billion hungry humans.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 27, 2014 12:32 PM (CnA98)

244 @224 [prescient11] - "... the 2d Am is the "last word" on judging the limits of the federal government's authority."

While this may have been the intent, and may in fact be true in theory, from a practical standpoint there's been no evidence of this since 1791. In fact, there's been just the opposite.

Posted by: goy at February 27, 2014 12:33 PM (oGez1)

245 His entire administration has been setting the table of the 'radical right-wing terrorist/tea party/veteran racist insurgency.' He'll go as radical as he wants, and if anything happens, he knows that the media will helpfully propagandize things his way. So many comments. All bannable.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 12:33 PM (xZxMD)

246

Looks to me ... Louisville native ... that Bevins is a sure loser in a general against Grimes.

 

But here's the kicker, McConnell's chances ain't good either.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 27, 2014 12:34 PM (F2BKh)

247 While this may have been the intent, and may in fact be true in theory, from a practical standpoint there's been no evidence of this since 1791. In fact, there's been just the opposite. 1861 ring a bell?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 12:34 PM (xZxMD)

248

Goy, well I would refer you to the civil war!  Now the federal govt won that dispute, but I'd say some rifles on the other side put up a pretty good fight.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 27, 2014 12:34 PM (tVTLU)

249 226 AceThePug, I used it after his Ft Hood "shout out" shuck and jive.... I hate him.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 12:34 PM (pUwoD)

250

So you've all heard of this "quenelle" thing?

 

 

I'm famous!

Posted by: Quanelle X at February 27, 2014 12:34 PM (BAS5M)

251 It also makes me wonder why some on our side are so against primarying him. Is Bevin that much of a "RWNJ"? No, just a generally bad candidate.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 27, 2014 12:36 PM (SY2Kh)

252 Nood up.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 27, 2014 12:36 PM (xZxMD)

253 242 Precession patterns, sunspot activity, and highly predictable cycles on a macro scale indicate that flannel lined jeans sales will increase. Milankovitch cycles. Should only mean shortly we will return to about 7,000 years of glaciation to the United States and Canada -- the so-called 'breadbasket' of the world. Minor item, easily overlooked by a couple billion hungry humans. Posted by: SE Pa Moron at February 27, 2014 04:32 PM (CnA9 Recycling plastic bags and ecogardens - old and busted. Breaking the long bones for marrow and knapping flint - the new hotness.

Posted by: tubal at February 27, 2014 12:36 PM (sCfLS)

254 238 torquewrench, My hometow is at the very vanguard of the glacial thrust in Ohio.... I support glacial thrust.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 27, 2014 12:37 PM (pUwoD)

255
If I may intervene, the 2d Am is the "last word" on judging the limits of the federal government's authority.

LOL
Posted by: prescient11 at February 27, 2014 04:25 PM (tVTLU)
--------------------
Yes, it is.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2014 04:31 PM (dfYL9)








Ballot Box. Soap Box. Cartridge Box.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 27, 2014 12:37 PM (TIIx5)

256 Does Affleck even know where Congo is?

Posted by: Titanium at February 27, 2014 12:37 PM (JLKJJ)

257 "It also makes me wonder why some on our side are so against primarying him. Is Bevin that much of a 'RWNJ'?"

I think what put a lot of people off of Bevin that the Tea Party voters want, more than anything else, someone who isn't going to campaign saying one thing, and then in office conduct themselves entirely differently.

So getting caught talking up TARP as good? Not good.

Especially since -- let's remember our history -- TARP was what sparked the comments from Rick Santelli that led to the original Tea Party demonstrations.

It's a shame. It would be great to see Mitch get thrown in the ditch. But Bevin may not have been the best choice for the challenge.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 27, 2014 12:38 PM (gqT4g)

258 @247 [prescient11] "Now the federal govt won that dispute..."

Which should demonstrate that the 2A isn't enough, in and of itself, to impose any limit on the federal government's constant, extra-constitutional expansion of authority.

Posted by: goy at February 27, 2014 12:39 PM (oGez1)

259

What is this insanity of adversion w/ TARP.  All of it has been paid back by financial institutions that received it, or pretty much all of it.

 

It could have been handled differently, but at times of bank runs one institution needs to stabilize.

Posted by: prescient11 at February 27, 2014 12:40 PM (tVTLU)

260 141 Crimean War Part 2. History repeats it's self. Did some reading on it this morning. Same sides lining up but a different ignitor. Religion the first time.

Posted by: jrcobbstr at February 27, 2014 12:42 PM (OGuBw)

261 The wave, that was Nixion's plan for the hippies. Can't say the man didn't have vision.  Maybe a bigger bomb?

Posted by: Jean at February 27, 2014 12:42 PM (4JkHl)

262 TARP allows --it continues-- the banks to avoid the honest reckoning of their assets. If they went into receivership, they'd have to admit that the 2nd and 3rd decades of thousands of chopped & bundled mortgages, that have foreclosed in year 4, are worth $0. It doesn't matter that you paid $25 million for the bundle. If the loan already died, the paper is worthless. That's the problem. The regulators who are supposed to be destroying crooked financial institutions are now pretending that lying down with them is in the national interest, and the Congress signed off on it.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 27, 2014 12:43 PM (5xmd7)

263 >>So getting caught talking up TARP as good? Not good.<< 1. So what? He was a private citizen who wanted people to invest with him. He had no say in passing TARP. For me to pretend that I hate TARP, so I will hate on Bevin, so I will help reelect a guy who passed TARP, is silly. 2. This is what McConnell can talk about? Not "remember my leadership"? Just "forget I exist, ok, and look at THIS jerk"

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 27, 2014 12:45 PM (5xmd7)

264 sven -- thanks.

Posted by: acethepug at February 27, 2014 12:50 PM (F8WDc)

265 Turning a blind eye vs. blind justice. OH, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet, Till Earth and Sky stand presently at GodÂ’s great Judgment Seat; But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth, When two strong men stand face to face, thoÂ’ they come from the ends of the earth!

Posted by: panzernashorn at February 27, 2014 12:51 PM (MhA4j)

266 The Dread Traitor Roberts gave Obama the thumbs up to do as he will with the Obamacare decision.  If you can substitute one word for another because you feel like it then why can't the president substitute one date for another if it so pleases him?  And if you can exchange words to make this thing pass Constitutional muster  then why can't you add them to give certain groups waivers or special dispensation so that it can pass muster in other ways?

The idiots we put on the Supreme Court do this crap all the time.  Did they really think that we eventually wouldn't get someone just as lacking in character and self-restraint as they are in the presidency?  How could they claim to not know what Obama is when he publicly bullied them and savaged them as his first order of business?

Posted by: Thatch at February 27, 2014 12:55 PM (qYvEa)

267 I continue to feel that the biggest problem is that most Americans have been mis-educated for more than a generation that "The Courts" are the watchdogs of what is and is not Constitutional. That is totally insufficient from an historical perspective (at length in The Federalist) in which the States, and the People were anticipated to prevent incursions on the Constitution and their liberties. The institution of judicial review, though a helpful adjunct, has come to replace what was intended to be our direct responsibility to ensure our own liberties. We have, as a people, now "outsourced" our own responsibility to guard our liberties to the Courts, and grown comfortable with the arrangment because the Courts have been so "activist" (in the past) in fulfilling their function. The Article V Convention is one means by which the States and the People can reassert their primacy, but not the only means. As I read the Federalist, I think that in the first instance the Framers contemplated general and organized political protest, by States, and the citizenry, as the first line of defense. It would be a great thing if Cruz and Rand and Lee were to start at least telling people that, while "Judicial Review" is important, and has had a nice run, "The Courts" are not going to save us, and that this was never the plan in the first place. That is the watershed idea that people need to get through their heads if we have a hope of getting this right again.

Posted by: NYC Parent at February 27, 2014 01:03 PM (HEo6y)

268 241 J.D. Hayworth did primary McLame. Johney boy smeared the crap out of him, went hog ass wild. Can't say TFGs middle name but if you are a conservative, anything goes. MaCain is a real patriot, but has been in DC way to long and is part of the problem now. He should have retired after blowing the 08 election. He sucks now.

Posted by: jrcobbstr at February 27, 2014 01:11 PM (OGuBw)

269 We have to do this incrementally. Slowly, over a period of 50-100 years, we acquire the power to roll the Leviathan back. === The Titanic sank in 2 hours. Obama was our iceberg.

Posted by: whoever at February 27, 2014 01:15 PM (kGSN0)

270 Turley is a principled liberal,

The kind who talks about how great the good ole USA is while voting for it's killers.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 27, 2014 01:17 PM (DL2i+)

271 @266 [NYC Parent] - "...the States, and the People were anticipated to prevent incursions on the Constitution and their liberties."

And this actually worked reasonably well...

...right up until the federal government granted itself the authority - in direct violation of the Constitution's definition of Treason - to wage war on the States and their citizens, which are the sole grantors of all the limited authority the federal government has.

In our diseducated society, however, we're not allowed to talk about this because... SHUT UP!!! SLAVERY!!!

The federal government has existed pretty much solely to expand its authority for over 150 years. Both "parties" are a party to this overreach. Electing the "right" politicians to federal office isn't going to change that. And the ones who try to point out the obvious are relentlessly demonized (like Cruz, Rand, et. al.).

The only constitutional path to fixing this is for the States to re-boot the federal government THEY created, replacing the corrupt actors that infest it, and using all that has been learned over the past 150 years to prevent similar future abuses.

http://bit.ly/1fn7GCD


Posted by: goy at February 27, 2014 01:24 PM (oGez1)

272 "...right up until the federal government granted itself the authority - in direct violation of the Constitution's definition of Treason - to wage war on the States and their citizens, which are the sole grantors of all the limited authority the federal government has." States declared war on the federal government, looted federal property and executed US citizens who sold cattle to the United States. Read the Diary of Mary Chestnut.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at February 27, 2014 02:36 PM (5xmd7)

273 Sorry off topic but I had to put this out somewhere... Russel Crowe, in on of his tweets to Pope Franicis requesting the Holy Father watch "Noah", the biffoon Crowe ended the tweet with "Inshallah" I mean what freaking planet do these dopes live on...

Posted by: havildar - major at February 27, 2014 02:56 PM (kduZC)

274 @271 [Chris] "States declared war on the federal government...."

Was this "diary" a Harry Turtledove novel?

Posted by: goy at February 27, 2014 05:34 PM (oGez1)

275 We done already tupped.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 27, 2014 09:21 PM (zfY+H)

276

The United States is NOT mentioned in the Bible.  We do not even know if it survives. At the present time, its chances are NOT good.

 

Posted by: burt at February 28, 2014 07:10 AM (1+kJ5)

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