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January 28, 2014

Hey, Let's Take A Look at the Income Equality Gap Between... Washington DC and the Hinterlands It Reigns Over
— Ace

Obama's going to talk about income inequality a fair amount.

He won't, however, be talking about the rising inequality between the Ruling Class and its various major domos and mandarins and the rest of the country that Washington supposedly "serves."

Since the economic collapse of 2008, Washington D.C. and its surrounding areas have remained nearly untouched. In fact, Washington is booming as the rest of the country continues to suffer. The median household income in Washington D.C. is close to $20,000 higher than the median household income in the United States.
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The wealth that has turned Washington D.C. into a boomtown, while creating an extreme income gap with the rest of the country, is a direct result of massive government spending.

Supporting charts and quotations at Pavlich's article (linked above). She also mentions this...

As Obama continues his income inequality crusade, here's an important reminder: the gap between rich and poor has grown to its widest since the Great Depression under his leadership.

This last point is explored thoroughly by the awful crazy gun nuts of the Volokh Conspiracy, now annoying the crap out of emotionally volatile progressives on the pages of the Washington Post.

Jim Lindgren writes:

If we want more income equality, should we return to the economy of George W. Bush?
Other things being equal, income equality is better than inequality. But other things are NOT equal. The easiest way to make incomes more equal in the short run is to have a recession.
Much has been made of growing income inequality since 1979, but very little attention has been paid to which of the four presidental administrations preceding Barack Obama increased income equality and which ones reduced it. In short, the two presidents whose terms involved improving income equality were the two George Bushes and the two whose terms were associated with worsening after-tax income equality were Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. It is probably not an accident that the two presidents in whose administrations the GDP grew the most were the two presidents whose time in office coincided with worsening income equality.
The president under whom the poorest quintile enjoyed the largest increase in after-tax household income was George W. Bush. And the two administrations under whom the richest quintile and richest 1 percent fared the worst were the two Presidents Bush. Among Barack ObamaÂ’s four immediate predecessors, the two biggest income equalizers were George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush.
Just to be clear, I am not pining for the good old days of the economy of George W. Bush.
But George W. Bush was the most successful of our recent past presidents in achieving very substantial increases in incomes for the poorest quintile (+18.4%), while keeping gains for the richest quintile and richest 1 percent at modest levels. For example, under Bush the Younger, the incomes of the richest 1 percent rose only 6.5 percent in eight years, compared to a staggering 84 percent under Clinton and 91 percent under Reagan.
If you would rather have Bill ClintonÂ’s economy than George W. BushÂ’s economy Â– and I definitely would Â– then as a practical matter you probably donÂ’t care overmuch about income equality.

Again, evidence is amassed at the link itself.

Would anyone prefer George W. Bush's shrinking income inequality, with some but not great income growth, over Reagan's or Clinton's growing income inequality, but with great income growth among all income quintiles?

This jibes with the Margaret Thatcher clip I linked earlier. A rising tide will lift all boats -- some more than others.

A somewhat rising tide may lift those boats in roughly equal ways. But virtually everyone will be poorer than they otherwise could be.

Why support that? Why is that such a terrific goal?

Of course, either of these alternatives is superior to the one The Emperor Obama has blessed us with, an economy in which not only is there barely any income growth, but in which almost all of the meager growth is captured entirely by the richest 1%, as almost none of the lower 99% have experienced any income growth whatsoever, and most have actually fallen backwards.

As a rising tide will lift all boats, so will an incompetent tide scuttle them all.

Thanks to @tsrblike and BB.

That's Racist: @benk84 linked this in the morning dump, but it's really good and I'd like to post it again.

Posted by: Ace at 11:50 AM | Comments (229)
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1 Yep

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 28, 2014 11:52 AM (o9Rp5)

2 I'll go get the others.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 28, 2014 11:52 AM (o9Rp5)

3 Move them to Detroit.

Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 11:52 AM (0GtXP)

4 And now to read the post.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 28, 2014 11:53 AM (o9Rp5)

5 Would anyone prefer George W. Bush's shrinking income inequality, I'd settle for his $1.89 gas.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 11:54 AM (ndIek)

6 Congress controls DC ... pass a special tax or three.

Posted by: Al at January 28, 2014 11:54 AM (9ynpo)

7 I'm pissed off. I want Obama's income.

Posted by: Caliban at January 28, 2014 11:55 AM (DrC22)

8 Guess what The Dark Knight was about.... same sneaky thing. A stealth treatise on ______ and The War on Terror. (I jet.)

Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 28, 2014 11:55 AM (RJMhd)

9 >>>Katie Pavlich: Let's Take A Look...<<<

Don't mind if i do.
(though a picture of her would've been more helpful)

Posted by: where my Moron eyes stopped reading at January 28, 2014 11:55 AM (XCGHz)

10 Suzanne Collins, prophet.

Posted by: mark in sandy ut at January 28, 2014 11:56 AM (xGX1p)

11 The president under whom the poorest quintile enjoyed the largest increase in after-tax household income was George W. Bush. And the two administrations under whom the richest quintile and richest 1 percent fared the worst were the two Presidents Bush.

For some reason, as I read these sentences I got a mental image of an Ewok kicking a hippie repeatedly in the crotch. It was wonderful.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 28, 2014 11:57 AM (B/VB5)

12 A rising tsunami smashes all boats.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2014 11:57 AM (F75MN)

13 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 11:57 AM (PYAXX)

14 Facts matter not one bit. He'll go out there tonight and preach to the choir about the unfairness of it all. Like I tell my children, who said anything about fair?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 28, 2014 11:57 AM (o9Rp5)

15 The Capitol and The Districts.

The Ministry of Magic and Dumbledore's Army.

There's a reason why those works strike the chords they do.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 28, 2014 11:58 AM (Gk3SS)

As a rising tide will lift all boats, so will an incompetent tide scuttle them all.

The tide comes in, the tide goes out. No one understands how that works.

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at January 28, 2014 11:59 AM (A0sHn)

17 Duh!1 is a dunce. At best.
Feel free to quote me- I'd say it to his lyin' face.

Posted by: backhoe at January 28, 2014 12:00 PM (ULH4o)

18 I'd take W's economy. That was the last time I had a real job.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 12:00 PM (0HooB)

19 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 28, 2014 03:58 PM (Gk3SS) Re: the Hunger Games, the media's complicity is just as bad as the gov't itself.

Posted by: AMDG at January 28, 2014 12:00 PM (t7OO0)

20 It's not that they don't know anything, it's that they know so much that isn't so... ~some wiseguy "Income Inequality" has always been- and always will be- a stalking horse for Communism- it can be no other. Incomes will ALWAYS be unequal in freer economies- because people provide different services with different average values. The guy flipping burgers down at Burger Queen does not provide the same VALUE as your car mechanic, who does not provide the VALUE (like it or not) as a developer at a computer game company. So only under Communism- where no one makes any income, and instead everything is doled out by the State- is there "income equality."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 12:01 PM (PYAXX)

21 Create a problem. Make the problem worse. Bitch about the problem. Offer yourself as the solution to the problem you created. Nerve. It takes it.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 12:01 PM (P6QsQ)

22 When the proles glom on to how they are being worked, starved, and fcuked to death, then they will rise up. And they will be slaughtered. Because they will be unarmed.

Posted by: Erowmero at January 28, 2014 12:02 PM (OONaw)

23 Matthews 26:11a: The poor you will have with you always. The rich, they are a fluke and can easily disappear from your midst.

Posted by: AMDG at January 28, 2014 12:02 PM (t7OO0)

24 This is why, to the astute observer, it was surreal to see the 99%ers on the same side of George Soros and Warren Buffet. Someone was, as they say, zoomin someone, but who?

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 12:02 PM (qbQhu)

25 The rich, they are a fluke and can easily disappear from your midst. Posted by: AMDG at January 28, 2014 04:02 PM (t7OO0)

This is known as bad luck.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 28, 2014 12:03 PM (Gk3SS)

The persistence of wealth in the greater DC area is a symptom of something worse than income inequality.

It's the leviathan state that makes rent-seeking a profitable endeavor. It's not all government salaries propping up housing values. It's the people whose job is to curry favor with law writers and contract awarders.

The fact that rent-seeking is profitable means that the federal government is way too big for its britches. Before air conditioning Washington DC was a fetid swamp and lawmakers left town for the summer and could do no more damage. Now there's a permanent caste of supplicants and manipulators.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at January 28, 2014 12:03 PM (A0sHn)

27 - I saw Incompetent Tide open for the Beach Boys back in '72.

Posted by: irright at January 28, 2014 12:04 PM (pMGkg)

28 Periodically moving the capital would help break up the permanent governing class. Hard to build the feudal infrastructure to support an increasingly corrupt ruling class if you have to relocate every five years or whatever. Something to keep in mind after the present order burns and we look to rebuild something better.

Posted by: The GOP at January 28, 2014 12:04 PM (0h8aq)

29 Mitt Romney and Prince Reebus were wayy outta their league in '12. '16 will be even worse for the R's -- they'll be lucky to see 40% nationwide.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 12:04 PM (qbQhu)

30 @28, Ugh, sock fail.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at January 28, 2014 12:05 PM (0h8aq)

31 @26 Ban a/c from D.C. as a good, first step.

Posted by: T for testosterone at January 28, 2014 12:05 PM (1/4XQ)

32 Power out again. Anyone else with brownout or blackout? I'll net the elite enclaves have electricity.

Posted by: zeb b madd at January 28, 2014 12:05 PM (tHTTd)

33 GW, it was a Marx quote - "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. Groucho Marx

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 12:05 PM (0HooB)

34 College buddy of mine just relocated to DC for a job. Got an apartment in Arlington, one of the inner Nova burbs -- $2200 a month for a 1 bedroom.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 12:06 PM (ZPrif)

35 Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Outlaw fishing poles and he votes Democrat for the rest of his life.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 28, 2014 12:06 PM (8ZskC)

36 Ban a/c from D.C. as a good, first step.

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Working on it. Well not the DC part, but everywhere else.

Posted by: The EPA at January 28, 2014 12:06 PM (o9Rp5)

37 Pavlich seems like a worthy female with whom to found another dynasty:
1. She's beautiful and witty.
2. She's less than half my age.
3. I even live on Whitewater Avenue. (She is supposed to like rafting.)

Posted by: T for testosterone at January 28, 2014 12:06 PM (1/4XQ)

38 Hungers Games economy ain't so bad when viewed from capital city.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 12:07 PM (ZPrif)

39 I remember a great quote from someone here (sorry I can't attribute it properly), but it bears repeating:

Conservatives want everyone to be equal at the starting line!

Progressives want everyone to be equal at the finish line!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 12:07 PM (o3MSL)

40 21 Create a problem. Make the problem worse. Bitch about the problem. Offer yourself as the solution to the problem you created. Nerve. It takes it. Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 04:01 PM (P6QsQ) And a simple majority of a population that's as dumb as a rock.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 28, 2014 12:07 PM (bCEmE)

You peasants should feel privileged that you are permitted to contribute to the glory that is the Obama Administration. It's hard to micromanage your squalid affairs without a few luxuries you know. That's right, your plaudits and hosannas are required. We'll tell you when it is time to stop.

It isn't time yet, you slacker.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 28, 2014 12:08 PM (hLRSq)

42 When someone can go into a $170,000 a year job in an area with an extremely high cost of living and come out five years later a multi-millionaire, there's a big fucking problem.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 28, 2014 12:08 PM (GrtrJ)

43 Did Katie Pavlich read my comment on the morning dump thread or what?

Posted by: --- at January 28, 2014 12:09 PM (MMC8r)

44 The median household income in Washington D.C. is close to $20,000 higher than the median household income in the United States. Does that 20k number include DC in "the United States?" That is- is the median income in DC (say) 100,000 and with DC left in the median income in the US 80,000? If so, what happens to that number when you remove DC (hint: it would move toward the left of the number line)?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 12:09 PM (PYAXX)

45 Katie Pavlich: Let's Take A Look at the Rising Income Equality Between... Washington DC and the Hinterlands It Reigns Over Katie makes SOMEthing rise all on her own.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 12:09 PM (7ObY1)

46 It's called Public Service. You're welcome.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 28, 2014 12:10 PM (ZPrif)

47 When someone can go into a $170,000 a year job in an area with an extremely high cost of living and come out five years later a multi-millionaire, there's a big fucking problem.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 28, 2014 04:08 PM (GrtrJ)

Being able to write laws that specifically exempt you from their consequences doesn't hurt!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 12:10 PM (o3MSL)

48 The comments at the Washington Compost are hilarious. By hilarious I mean NPR grade hilariously stoopid.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 28, 2014 12:10 PM (kxSZr)

49 No, Mr. Economy. I expect you to die.

Posted by: Baurick Shitfinger at January 28, 2014 12:10 PM (8ZskC)

50 At this point, I'd almost take Carter's economy over the one now. At least, with him, we were still fairly free from government intrusion.

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 12:10 PM (AIfv5)

51 Parts of the country are doing well. North Dakota, Texas, Oklahoma.....wonder why? And the richest state in the country, California, is in the dumps. I wonder why? Votes have consequences. We all know that. I would like the rebuttal by the Republicans to be simple and brief and point that out. There is no need to refute all of Obama's bullshit line by line.

Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 28, 2014 12:11 PM (RFeQD)

52 What can I say? I seem to just have a natural talent for stock-picking.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 28, 2014 12:11 PM (ZPrif)

53 Being able to write laws that specifically exempt you from their consequences doesn't hurt! Neither does specifically allowing insider trading for yourself and your buddies.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 12:11 PM (PYAXX)

54 http://tinyurl.com/mucpn3p ^^^^^Katie sportin' a gun...hawt!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 12:12 PM (7ObY1)

It's really revolting to visit DC nowadays. I lived there from 1981-1989 and again from 1991-2004. The opulence gained since I left is sickening. Hotel rooms are $500 a night if you can find one. Hideously expensive (I mean Manhattan-level prices) restaurants and bars that are jam packed every night. Tiffany's, Hermes, and other super-high-end stores have opened in downtown DC since I left. You used to have to go way up Wisconsin Avenue into the embassy district (i.e foreign money) to find those high end stores. Neighborhoods that used to be outright ghettoes or at least a bit on the seedy side are now home to huge glitzy condos being snapped up by hipsters working in the lobbying and law firms or the Soros-funded NGOs.

My company recently opened a DC lobbying office and my boss was appalled at the rent we ended up having to shell out.

And guess who has the most deluxe buildings, just a block from the Capitol? The Teamsters Union, and Van Scoyoc Associates, one of the biggest lobbying firms in town.

But when most national news reports crib from the New York Times and Washington Post, you never see any of this discussed in the media.

Posted by: rockmom at January 28, 2014 12:12 PM (aBlZ1)

56
Before air conditioning Washington DC was a fetid swamp

plus Ã§a change, plus c'est la mÃªme chose

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2014 12:12 PM (TIIx5)

57 There is no need to refute all of Obama's bullshit line by line. There is a time constraint, after all.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 12:12 PM (0HooB)

58 Periodically moving the capital would help break up the permanent governing class. Hard to build the feudal infrastructure to support an increasingly corrupt ruling class if you have to relocate every five years or whatever. Something to keep in mind after the present order burns and we look to rebuild something better. So would putting them on a small island & cutting all comms.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:12 PM (ndIek)

59 This post needs a photoshop of Katie Pavlich as Katniss Everdeen.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at January 28, 2014 12:12 PM (XrGnJ)

60 That empty suit would look nice with a halo.

Posted by: Caliban at January 28, 2014 12:12 PM (DrC22)

61 What can I say?
I seem to just have a natural talent for stock-picking.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 28, 2014 04:11 PM (ZPrif)

And you have a pretty good sense for real estate property valuations as well!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 12:12 PM (o3MSL)

62 Before air conditioning Washington DC was a fetid swamp Still is.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:13 PM (ndIek)

63 What would be a possible reason, outside of greed, for insider trading to be legal for Congress and illegal for the rest of us?

Serious question.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 28, 2014 12:13 PM (GrtrJ)

64 14 That's the way I put a stop to my 4 kids complaining that x,y or z wasn't fair. I always told them that life wasn't fair. They soon learned not whine.

Posted by: flmom at January 28, 2014 12:13 PM (nSjrf)

65 I thought that the whole rising tide thingie has been thoroughly debunked by all correct thinking economists such as former Enron adviser Paul Krugman?

Eh, no matter. You will be pleased to hear that you will be able to invest your retirement savings in the US Gubmint. Tax deferred Treasuries, to be exact:

http://tinyurl.com/qgcqhqh (zh)

We're all gonna be rich!

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 12:14 PM (wNF3N)

66 Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 04:12 PM (ndIek)

Why do I keep thinking about tumbrels?

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 12:14 PM (o3MSL)

67 I propose a "special federal use tax" for anybody working in or in the immediately connected counties of Washington DC. To be collected on income earned at a rate of say.....50% in addition to normal federal taxes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 28, 2014 12:15 PM (n0DEs)

68 Serious question.

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 28, 2014 04:13 PM (GrtrJ)

"Shut up!" the Congressional spokesperson explained!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 12:15 PM (o3MSL)

69 OT: When I was young and naive, I saw what was going on in the USSR and thought, "That couldn't happen here." Now I see that after massive demonstrations against a government that wanted to take a sharp policy turn back toward the policies of the USSR, the government of the Ukraine has resigned. And I think, "That couldn't happen here."

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (Hx5uv)

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 28, 2014 04:13 PM (GrtrJ)

"If we do not test these things out it could never be determined that it is dangerous for the population at large. You should be thanking us for the risk we run looking out for you." - Selfless Public Servant

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (hLRSq)

71 >>Create a problem. Make the problem worse. Bitch about the problem. Offer yourself as the solution to the problem you created.

You've just described the purpose of a Community Organizer.

Bonus points if you can find a "problem" where there will never be a solution (like crime, eliminating it).

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (POpqt)

72 48 The comments at the Washington Compost are hilarious. By hilarious I mean NPR grade hilariously stoopid. Damn, you ain't kiddin'. That's some weapons-grade stupid there. And their votes count. That's the saddest part.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (7ObY1)

73 21 Create a problem. Make the problem worse. Bitch about the problem. Offer yourself as the solution to the problem you created. ----- MÃ¼nchausen Syndrome by Proxy: acting as a supposed caregiver while inducing illness. For some, it's a mental illness. For the Left, it's a theory of governing.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (nsg2T)

74 Why do I keep thinking about tumbrels? Always go with what works.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (ndIek)

75 Another sure sign the DC area is a bubble economy - two of my best friends in Alexandria, Virginia recently quit their jobs to become real estate agents.

Posted by: rockmom at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (aBlZ1)

76 Wait. " I was right the last time, you are a liar."

Posted by: Rep Joe Wilson at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (0FSuD)

77 A mass, tall concrete topped with electric fence and guard towers around DC is a public works project I can get behind. It would focus like a laser on jobs, jobs, jobs, and help with the income inequality thingy.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (hpgw1)

78 I'm coming in late, so forgive me if this has already been posted today, but it's too funny. http://clashdaily.com/2014/01/came-like-wrecking-ball/ Good Photo-shop at the link.

Posted by: spypeach at January 28, 2014 12:17 PM (10H0T)

79 propose a "special federal use tax" for anybody working in or in the immediately connected counties of Washington DC. To be collected on income earned at a rate of say.....50% in addition to normal federal taxes. The DC Preferred User Fee.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:17 PM (ndIek)

80 Romney is on Cavuto talking about income inequality and making a very cogent case for how Obama's policy of quantitative easing has been largely to blame for the problem. I know a lot of people here don't like him but he would have made an excellent president. Not a doubt in my mind.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (g1DWB)

81 The Gov Tit: Ain't nothing like it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (t3UFN)

82 So, SOTU address, watch paint dry on floor? Paint is the winner.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (0FSuD)

83 Yay, me:

264 If the goal is fixing income inequality, shouldn't President PrissyPants be CAPPING the wages of gummint employees that make far more than the average private sector worker? The Mandarin Class has seen few job cuts and increases in wages across the board since His Emptiness was crowned, and they've bloated the upper classes with their bloated salaries.

Posted by: --- at January 28, 2014 10:16 AM (MMC8r)

Posted by: --- at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (MMC8r)

84 Damn, I thought that video was going to turn out to be a Saturday Night Live opening skit. It may have helped that I had Steppenwolf on in the background and forgot that IÂ’d done that.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (QF8uk)

85 Bonus points if you can find a "problem" where there will never be a solution (like crime, eliminating it).

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 04:16 PM (POpqt)

Poverty, drugs, income inequality, pay independent of skill set, why it's almost like there's a common theme there!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (o3MSL)

86 MÃ¼nchausen Syndrome by Proxy: acting as a supposed caregiver while inducing illness. For some, it's a mental illness. For the Left, it's a theory of governing.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at January 28, 2014 04:16 PM (nsg2T)

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That is brilliant.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 12:19 PM (P6QsQ)

87 I know a lot of people here don't like him but he would have made an excellent president. Not a doubt in my mind.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2014 04:18 PM (g1DWB)

Sorry my friend, Romney would only have been 1000 times better than Obama in EVERY regard, so no sale!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 12:20 PM (o3MSL)

88 Heh. Romney, on Cavuto , refers to Christie's style as "a strong LBJ style"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:20 PM (DmNpO)

89 I know a lot of people here don't like him but he would have made an excellent president. Not a doubt in my mind.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2014 04:18 PM (g1DWB)

I like him too, and--after Rick Perry's catastrophic meltdown--felt Romney was the best candidate in a field full of second-raters.

Posted by: troyriser at January 28, 2014 12:20 PM (O66NZ)

90 Bonus points if you can find a "problem" where there will never be a solution (like crime, eliminating it). - On Drudge it says that the Earth's magnetic core is weakening and there will be hell to pay. I'm sure it's the Rethuglican's fault. I'm also sure that taxes and regulation will keep us all safe.

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 28, 2014 12:20 PM (Hx5uv)

91 DC is also in the midst of a building boom. It really is quite surreal. Everywhere you look you see distressed properties and vacancies and DC is flush with cash. DC and it's 'burbs are not part of America..... their just not.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2014 12:20 PM (32Ze2)

92 Empty suit? No, it's the other way around. #ObamaIsNaked

Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2014 12:20 PM (T0NGe)

BTW - the Outrage Outlet at Crystal City is the top-producer.

This should not surprise anyone anywhere.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 28, 2014 12:21 PM (hLRSq)

94 >>Poverty, drugs, income inequality, pay independent of skill set, why it's almost like there's a common theme there!

My favorite Bill Clinton trick was bravely declaring himself for or against something that is undisputed, like:
* I am against crime!
* I am for children getting an education!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 12:21 PM (POpqt)

I know a lot of people here don't like him but he would have made an excellent president.

He would have been an excellent president. He is not a good politician, which unfortunately is a prerequisite for showing how good a president you are.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (A0sHn)

96 Posted by: WalrusRex at January 28, 2014 04:20 PM (Hx5uv)

The deterioration of the Earth's magnetic field started in the Bush administration!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (o3MSL)

97 MÃ¼nchausen Syndrome by Proxy: acting as a supposed
caregiver while inducing illness. For some, it's a mental illness. For
the Left, it's a theory of governing.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at January 28, 2014 04:16 PM (nsg2T)

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That is brilliant.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 04:19 PM (P6QsQ)

Agreed. I'll be stealing it often.

Posted by: troyriser at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (O66NZ)

98 52 What can I say?
I seem to just have a natural talent for stock-picking.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 28, 2014 04:11 PM (ZPrif)

Piker. Let's see what you can do with cattle futures, then we'll talk.

Posted by: Hillary! at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (9F2c1)

99 Wasn't it FNC that put on the special about government DC government and interviewed a real estate agent who spoke to how housing costs never fell in the DC area because once people move there. they never leave?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (DmNpO)

100 What if Obama gave a SOTU and no one showed up?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (oFCZn)

101 Pavlich seems like a worthy female with whom to found another dynasty A strong thighed Mother of Empire? I like that in a woman.

Posted by: toby928© at January 28, 2014 12:23 PM (QupBk)

102 You little people don't eat as much, so you don't need as much money.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, Jeenyus at January 28, 2014 12:23 PM (tv7DV)

103 On Drudge it says that the Earth's magnetic core is weakening and there will be hell to pay. Gravity is ending?? Globull warmening!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:23 PM (ndIek)

104 My favorite Bill Clinton trick was bravely declaring himself for or against something that is undisputed, like: * I am against crime! * I am for children getting an education! **** I feel your pain. I, too, hate the effects of drugs on communities.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:23 PM (DmNpO)

105 Somebody posted last week that Rosa Del Auro (D, Barnyard) has a net worth of $25 million after being nothing but a drain on the taxpayer all these years.

Posted by: --- at January 28, 2014 12:23 PM (MMC8r)

106 Romney is on Cavuto talking about income inequality and making a very cogent case for how Obama's policy of quantitative easing has been largely to blame for the problem.

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He did, but he was heavy on go-along/get-along/work together. He said Christie is good in that he would keep the party from going "off the rails." He also didn't bring up Cruz or Rand Paul when Neil started talking about '16 nominees. When asked about it, he reiterated the need for a candidate that could garner all sides. Read into it what you will.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 28, 2014 12:24 PM (Oa7B2)

107 When a third of your workforce has an income of ZERO, addressing inequality in the remaining two-thirds cannot address the biggest source of inequality. I really want to see Obama's math grades from college.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 12:24 PM (4JkHl)

108 99 Wasn't it FNC that put on the special about government DC government and interviewed a real estate agent who spoke to how housing costs never fell in the DC area because once people move there. they never leave?

You sure about that?

Posted by: Mike Shanahan at January 28, 2014 12:24 PM (9F2c1)

109 DC Real Estate is booming and the Atlanta tent city has grown to thousands of delightful little units. This snowmageddon here must be wreaking even more havoc the Jugears McFuckstick.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 12:24 PM (ojnk6)

110 On Drudge it says that the Earth's magnetic core is weakening and there will be hell to pay. Gravity is ending?? Globull warmening! *** It seems like there was a post here once before about how the poles have completed shifted several times throughout history. Not human history.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:25 PM (DmNpO)

111 Sorry my friend, Romney would only have been 1000 times better than Obama in EVERY regard, so no sale! In fairness, I voted for Ham Sandwich.

Posted by: toby928© at January 28, 2014 12:25 PM (QupBk)

112 And even better, when you become a member of the elite, you can get away with not paying your taxes!

Posted by: DangerGirl at January 28, 2014 12:25 PM (GrtrJ)

113 The deterioration of the Earth's magnetic field started in the Bush administration! This might explain why Obama shits all over himself.

Posted by: Magnetic North at January 28, 2014 12:25 PM (0GtXP)

114 What would be a possible reason, outside of greed, for insider trading to be legal for Congress and illegal for the rest of us? Serious question. Didn't they outlaw it for Congress for a short time, then quietly slip a rider into a bill making it legal again?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 28, 2014 12:25 PM (IoTdl)

115 My favorite Bill Clinton trick was bravely declaring himself for or against something that is undisputed, like: * I am against crime! * I am for children getting an education! ********** gee, why can't the gOP do this?

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:26 PM (QxSug)

116 92 Empty suit?

No, it's the other way around.

#ObamaIsNaked

Pass the brain bleach...

Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at January 28, 2014 12:26 PM (9F2c1)

117 91 DC is also in the midst of a building boom. It really is quite surreal. Everywhere you look you see distressed properties and vacancies and DC is flush with cash. DC and it's 'burbs are not part of America..... their just not. The Capital - The Districts Where's our Katniss Everdeen?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 12:26 PM (7ObY1)

118
A mass, tall concrete topped with electric fence and guard towers around DC is a public works project I can get behind. It would focus like a laser on jobs, jobs, jobs, and help with the income inequality thingy.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at January 28, 2014 04:16 PM (hpgw1)

Then fill it with water.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2014 12:26 PM (TIIx5)

119 >>He would have been an excellent president. He is not a good politician, which unfortunately is a prerequisite for showing how good a president you are. I agree that the political process is a necessary part of evaluating a candidate, seeing how they handle the challenges of the race, how quick and knowledgable they are, how inspirational they can be, etc., but I think the importance has gotten out of whack. We now put candidates through a 2 year reality/gong show format that seems more focused on Ah Ha! and gotcha moments than on discovering strengths. And candidates on our side face much more scrutiny both from us and of course the msm. Not sure there is a solution, we seem to want more circus not less.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2014 12:26 PM (g1DWB)

120 I know a lot of people here don't like him but he would have made an excellent president. Not a doubt in my mind. Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2014 04:18 PM (g1DWB) A Windup toy monkey with cymbals in it's hands would be an improvement over the current fool. I didn't like Romney because I have noted a long history of North Eastern Republicans stabbing the base in the back, but as I regarded economic stability as the single most dire issue affecting the nation in 2012, I was willing to put up with his potential backstabbing for what I regarded as the necessary task of stabilizing our finances. In that task I am of the opinion he would have had no equal.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 12:26 PM (bb5+k)

121 When asked about it, he reiterated the need for a candidate that could garner all sides. Read into it what you will.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 28, 2014 04:24 PM (Oa7B2)

He isn't giving the MSM/Dems any free ammunition. That is what I am reading. Very astute and sorely lacking in many people.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 28, 2014 12:26 PM (hLRSq)

122

Okay. I really don't have a comment to post. Was just looking at Katie's photo album. I seem to be distracted. What exactly are we talking about?

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 12:26 PM (AIfv5)

123 What would be a possible reason, outside of greed, for insider trading to be legal for Congress and illegal for the rest of us? I'll ask a question as well. What is the legal distinction between a Police Officer and a US Citizen?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 28, 2014 12:26 PM (IoTdl)

124 Gravity is ending?? Globull warmening! - Read it and weep. http://tinyurl.com/nxwm4rx

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 28, 2014 12:27 PM (Hx5uv)

125 because the left will not let us be more than: *I am against rapebortions * binders! *shutdown!

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:27 PM (QxSug)

126 >>The Capital - The Districts. Where's our Katniss Everdeen?

Alaska?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 12:27 PM (POpqt)

127 Dangit. I literally just awoke (still waking up) from a nap. Pardon the sentence structure and punctuation errors.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:27 PM (DmNpO)

128 #ObamaIsNaked A Mocha Ken doll.

Posted by: toby928© at January 28, 2014 12:27 PM (QupBk)

129 91 DC is also in the midst of a building boom. It really is quite surreal. Everywhere you look you see distressed properties and vacancies and DC is flush with cash. DC and it's 'burbs are not part of America..... their just not. Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2014 04:20 PM (32Ze2) The Neo Feudalism of the modern landed Gentry.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 12:28 PM (bb5+k)

130 92 Empty suit? No, it's the other way around. #ObamaIsNaked Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2014 04:20 PM (T0NGe) And that is closer to the truth. He has no wisdom, no knowledge of any value, and not enough sense to realize he's a fool.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 12:29 PM (bb5+k)

131 So would putting them on a small island & cutting all comms. Also: Nuking the site from orbit.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 12:29 PM (PYAXX)

132 Romney is, IMHO, too easily and frequently attacked by the right for being precisely the type of man that we SHOULD want to see in office: A man who would let his leadership, rather than his big mouth, speak volumes. I am not inspired by big mouths who run down others. I'm not.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:29 PM (DmNpO)

133 We need a Teleprompter Unplugged session. I'm sure it would be holding an air guitar.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 28, 2014 12:30 PM (IXrOn)

134 Why can't this asshole give his stupid speech on Queen Latifah or The Talk or one of those shows, instead of bothering us during prime time? Selfish douchenozzle.

Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2014 12:30 PM (8lmkt)

135 Also: Nuking the site from orbit. **nods**

Posted by: Xenu at January 28, 2014 12:31 PM (QupBk)

136 I love how these idiots compare a CEO's salary to a cashier's. First, the number of CEOs is miniscule. Second, people are not born CEOs. They're CEOs for a brief time, most often, and usually after they've gotten pretty old. The exceptions would be people who built the business from scratch. They often have a lot of education and a lot of experience. Third, CEOs put up with a LOT of shit. They're constantly being sued, for example. There are people who won't even be an academic department chair because of the shit they have to take. They work, easily, 80 hours a week and have no time to themselves. They don't set their own schedule and can't just take time off. Fourth, CEOs get fired on a whim. The board of directors doesn't tear up at letting go a bad CEO. He doesn't get to plead for his job based on how it will effect his family.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2014 12:31 PM (T0NGe)

137 Gee, it's almost like TFG and his Band of Merry Marxists don't know anything about economics.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 12:31 PM (0HooB)

138 well, the real fun part tonight will be watching the silence of the lambs...er, I mean the silence of the GOP. Vague lefty applause line, silence while the other side whoops it up.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:31 PM (QxSug)

139 Where's our Katniss Everdeen? Katniss Everdeen was a virtuous woman pressed into service by a hugely unfair system. She was politically inept and despite her wonderful survival capabilities, was manipulated by everyone around her. She is a hero in the Medieval sense of the word, being a virtuous, young warrior. I disagree that we need a Katniss Everdeen. We need a group of classically educated gentleman farmers with a profound sense of honor.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 28, 2014 12:31 PM (8ifMA)

140 Hello, Peaches. What tv show will you be missing tonight?

Posted by: tbodie at January 28, 2014 12:32 PM (X66C/)

141 On Drudge it says that the Earth's magnetic core is weakening and there will be hell to pay. Have an exit plan.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 28, 2014 12:32 PM (IXrOn)

142 I'll ask a question as well. What is the legal distinction between a Police Officer and a US Citizen? One gets to shoot your dog with impunity?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:32 PM (ndIek)

143 A mass, tall concrete topped with electric fence and guard towers around DC is a public works project I can get behind. It would focus like a laser on jobs, jobs, jobs, and help with the income inequality thingy. Posted by: Angel with a sword at January 28, 2014 04:16 PM (hpgw1) Then fill it with water. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2014 04:26 PM (TIIx5) Unfortunately shit floats.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 28, 2014 12:33 PM (oFCZn)

144 136

The number of people who can do a cashier's job is huge.

The number of people that can do a CEOs job is very, very small.

You pay for rarity.

Posted by: --- at January 28, 2014 12:33 PM (MMC8r)

145
Didn't really like Romney, still voted for him, but he lost because the nation is now a majority of takers instead of producers.

And the GOP is gonna let in 20 million more takers FTW!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 28, 2014 12:33 PM (n0DEs)

146 I disagree that we need a Katniss Everdeen. We need a group of classically educated gentleman farmers with a profound sense of honor. Posted by: bonhomme at January 28, 2014 04:31 PM (8ifMA) _______________________ Or raucous rednecks with rifles.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2014 12:33 PM (32Ze2)

147 at this point, fuck em. CEO's want to support TFG? Then lose that pay.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:33 PM (QxSug)

148
On the dump thread, kbdabear linked a homeless distribution map. Looks bad in People's Paradises like NY and my beloved Clownifornia, hovering around 3-4 homeless per 1000 in population.

The DC number? 10.86 per 1000.

Homeless distribution map in Obama's "State of the Union Couldn't Be Better"

Also a handy hobo hunting guide

http://tinyurl.com/m5x5gsx

Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2014 11:21 AM (aTXUx)

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2014 12:34 PM (TIIx5)

149 Hello, Peaches. What tv show will you be missing tonight?

Posted by: tbodie at January 28, 2014 04:32 PM (X66C/)

Hey, tbodie! I usually watch 2 back to back Modern Family repeats from 7 to 8. Looks like I only get one tonight, dammit.

Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2014 12:34 PM (8lmkt)

150 That suit has incredible, near-perfect pants creasing.

Posted by: Fritz at January 28, 2014 12:34 PM (UzPAd)

151 It seems like there was a post here once before about how the poles have completed shifted several times throughout history. Not human history. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 04:25 PM (DmNpO) I've seen articles suggesting the process starts with the reversal of the Suns magnetic field. The Sun has been acting very strangely as compared with previous observations for the last 100 years or so. Unusually low sunspot activity, and sunspots are known points of strong magnetic flux. It has been suggested that the Sun may very well be about to flip it's magnetic field.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 12:34 PM (bb5+k)

152 Channeling Scott Adams: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2002-01-26/ One of his funniest ever.

(Oh, and today's is hilarious also.)

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 12:34 PM (X3GkB)

153 If you can't see that Romney would have been a much better President than the idiot we have now you are stupid. Yes he had flaws yes he probably wasn't 100% what you wanted. But if you stayed home and didn't vote to send a "message" you are an asshole. Cause every vote you didn't make was 2 votes for TFG. Fuck you and your purity shit. Lesser of two evils

Posted by: NativeNH at January 28, 2014 12:34 PM (Hknbp)

154 yeah, fuck em all, just figure out what it will take to get the left to enforce the border and leave the guns alone. everything else? whatever.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:34 PM (QxSug)

155 Income inequality may be a good thing.

I'll bet that there is some correlation between economic growth and inequality.

In a flat economy, there is nothing to strive for...no goals other than getting along.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 28, 2014 12:34 PM (QFxY5)

156 DC's boom is emblematic of the Age of Obama. No consequence for misrule. No punishment received when it is surely deserved.

Posted by: Boomslang Joe at January 28, 2014 12:35 PM (nsg2T)

157 Where's our Katniss Everdeen? Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 04:26 PM (7ObY1) In Texas, and his name appears to be "Cruz."

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 12:35 PM (bb5+k)

158 So, are we looking at a real-life Capital City scenario a la Hunger Games? I'm sure I'm not the first to bring that up on this thread, but I'll say it anyway. . . .

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 12:35 PM (X3GkB)

159 AmishDude, I could be wrong (frequently am), but don't most CEOs have an employment contract and the golden parachute if it turns out the Board made a stupid choice by hiring them in the first place?

Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2014 12:35 PM (8lmkt)

160

Then fill it with water.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2014 04:26 PM (TIIx5)

Diseased weasel-rats.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 28, 2014 12:35 PM (hLRSq)

161 I chuckled when I read Jim Lingren's bio at the end of his WaPo Volokh column. Just the title of his 2002 Yale Law Journal article "Fall From Grace: Arming America and the Bellisilles Scandal" brought a smile to my face. No wonder the libs are going ballistic (so to type).

Posted by: mrp at January 28, 2014 12:35 PM (JBggj)

162 All those CEOs didn't give to Obama with the understanding that he would force them to make LESS money. This is to justify more welfare spending to the low end, it won't affect the upper end one bit. Unless they profit by the increased spending, which is likely.

Posted by: --- at January 28, 2014 12:35 PM (MMC8r)

163 Homeless distribution map in Obama's "State of the Union Couldn't Be Better" 67% of ND homeless are unsheltered?! Isn't that called frozen death?

Posted by: toby928© at January 28, 2014 12:36 PM (QupBk)

164 Unusually low sunspot activity, and sunspots are known points of strong magnetic flux. It has been suggested that the Sun may very well be about to flip it's magnetic field. *** I hope, when you say "about", you are speaking in relative terms. Relative to all of Earth's history.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:36 PM (DmNpO)

165 If a cashier messes up, he/she loses her job.
If a CEO messes up, everyone in the company may lose their job.

Forget CEOs, how about Hollywood pay, including all of the obscene tax breaks they get?
How about sports stars and their owners, who receive subsidized stadiums?
How about media personalities - does Brian Williams deserve that much $$$ for faking gravitas while reading the news?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 12:36 PM (POpqt)

166 You wingnuts actually thought I'd spend money on creature comforts for the re-education camps instead of building crap in My Imperial City?

Posted by: Kneel Before Obama at January 28, 2014 12:36 PM (tv7DV)

167 Third, CEOs put up with a LOT of shit. They're constantly being sued, for example. There are people who won't even be an academic department chair because of the shit they have to take. They work, easily, 80 hours a week and have no time to themselves. They don't set their own schedule and can't just take time off. Absolutely. Ask any leftie moron why Fortune 100 CEOs have helicopters and drivers and personal assistants. They think it's all about the trappings of power. What's the real reason? To get the maximum amount of value out of them! To make it so that every waking second can be used as the Chief Executive Officer.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 28, 2014 12:36 PM (8ifMA)

168 I miss the pre-2007 Dem Congressional takeover economy.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 28, 2014 12:36 PM (YmPwQ)

169

On Drudge it says that the Earth's magnetic core is weakening and there will be hell to pay.

--------------------------------------------

I'm investing in rope and cable futures. Maybe something in the fastener industry too.

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 12:36 PM (AIfv5)

170 I believe a "rising tide lifts all boats." But your boat can't have a hole in it. I lived in SF during the boom - most everyone benefitted from the growth, despite it being speculative, there were concrete benefits that one could take advantage of to increase their long-term prosperity, if a person was smart. Then there were the cities like Oakland - forever plagued with troubles. They missed the boom. They missed the opportunities, and they always will as long as they don't take ownership of their futures, but follow idiot leaders down the same old path.

Posted by: CandyCrowley at January 28, 2014 12:37 PM (HLthy)

171 I need some learnin. How did they measure wealth in this graphic? Did they count real estate?

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 12:37 PM (zOTsN)

172 In honor of TFG's SOTU speech I'm planning to stare at a blank TV screen and drink heavily. Less frustrating that way.

Posted by: tbodie at January 28, 2014 12:37 PM (X66C/)

173 I disagree that we need a Katniss Everdeen. We need a group of classically educated gentleman farmers with a profound sense of honor. Agreed. Katniss Everdeen is Joan D'Arc with a happier ending. We need George Washington, Thomas Jefferson (leave in "PROPERTY" this time, you dolt!"), Ben Franklin, et. al.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 12:37 PM (PYAXX)

174 66 Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 04:12 PM (ndIek)

Why do I keep thinking about tumbrels?
Posted by: Hrothgar

Add some guillotines, mobs of outraged, offal-throwing peasants?

Winning combination. I'd start with city and county officials and heads on pikes at the foot of the Causeway....

Posted by: backhoe at January 28, 2014 12:37 PM (ULH4o)

175 America already has gone from business friendly to terrifying. I am sure going full Soviet is the answer. GOP reaction should be more like Limbaugh's "what unfettered capitalism?" remarks. You want business to come to America? Figure out why they would do that?

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:37 PM (QxSug)

176 Four rebuttals tonight after the SOTU. Mike Lee Rand Paul Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) - in Spanish Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 28, 2014 12:38 PM (IXrOn)

177 Romney wouldve been nearly identical to Bush, but slightly better. Bush was on his way to being a good pro-commerce small govt conservative president. And then he got derailed with foreign policy because of 9/11 and very poor advice.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 12:39 PM (qbQhu)

178 One gets to shoot your dog with impunity? That's the practical effect of the current system, but what's the legal distinction? They're an officer of the court? CA says you can be an illegal alien and STILL be an officer of the court.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 28, 2014 12:39 PM (8ifMA)

179

On Drudge it says that the Earth's magnetic core is weakening and there will be hell to pay.

Hell, schmell. I'm going to put stronger magnets in my pockets so I stay stuck to the ground while you go floating off into space.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at January 28, 2014 12:39 PM (A0sHn)

180 whatever, criticize romney.I have to believe the everyone voted for him...everyone we have. I don't think you create Reagan Democrats with the "obama is a great guy, just a few policy boo boos" sales pitch.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:40 PM (QxSug)

181

We have skeins of vengeance-wool at the Outrage Outlet.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 28, 2014 12:40 PM (hLRSq)

182 >>Romney wouldve been nearly identical to Bush, but slightly better. I don't agree with that at all. Just one example, Romney had the most rigid no amnesty policy of an Republican candidate in years. Bush was pro-amnesty.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 28, 2014 12:41 PM (g1DWB)

183 Heh, turns out I'm at least the *fifth* to bring up Hunger Games. I can't wait to see Catching fire when it gets to DVD.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 12:41 PM (X3GkB)

184 On Drudge it says that the Earth's magnetic core is weakening and there will be hell to pay. It's all guesswork, from what I can tell- but that doesn't mean it's wrong. Basically- we think we know that, at some point, the earth's magnetic field will flip- and what was North will become South. What we have no clue about (and they're asserting as doom-tastic a scenario as possible so they can get $$$) is what will happen while the Magnetosphere undergoes that change. Their theory seems to be that it will be greatly weakened- allowing additional solar energy through to the ground. Up-side? Solar energy possibly gets close to energy-dense enough to be useful. Down-side? We all die of radiation poisoning.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 12:41 PM (PYAXX)

185 Channeling Scott Adams:Â http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2002-01-26/Â One of his funniest ever Not so funny when you have to work for the empty suit.

Posted by: tbodie at January 28, 2014 12:41 PM (X66C/)

186 Katie's is a voice crying in the wilderness. Or the sound of a tree falling in the forest. Zero has the bully pulpit, and he will bellow this theme all the way through until the day before the midterms. And the press will keep repeating it. Class warfare always works for them.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 28, 2014 12:42 PM (tmFlQ)

187 Gee. Think of what Amnesty will do for income disparity.

Posted by: --- at January 28, 2014 12:42 PM (MMC8r)

188 yeah, as annie c pointed out, Mitt was the only non-open borders nut up for grabs in 2012

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:42 PM (QxSug)

189 I'm investing in rope and cable futures. Maybe something in the fastener industry too. Two words: super glue.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 12:42 PM (0HooB)

190 I mean, I regret Perry, now...but his have a heart, hug an illegal line was infuriating.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:42 PM (QxSug)

191 I hope, when you say "about", you are speaking in relative terms. Relative to all of Earth's history. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 04:36 PM (DmNpO) I hope so too, but Humanity has lived through previous field flips. Might play hell with our power grid nowadays, but that wouldn't have been a problem a hundred thousand years ago.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 12:43 PM (bb5+k)

192 ** Gee. Think of what Amnesty will do for income disparity.** the rational super scientists in the DNC never bother to note that past border closings have resulted in rising worker wages

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:43 PM (QxSug)

193 Up-side? Solar energy possibly gets close to energy-dense enough to be useful. Down-side? We all die of radiation poisoning. Second look at Mole People?

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 28, 2014 12:43 PM (yz6yg)

194
Homeless distribution map in Obama's "State of the Union Couldn't Be Better"

67% of ND homeless are unsheltered?! Isn't that called frozen death?

Posted by: toby928Â© at January 28, 2014 04:36 PM (QupBk)

ND's "homeless" are probably all oil field workers living in trailers, RVs and shared rooms while raking in dough.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2014 12:44 PM (TIIx5)

195 but his have a heart, hug an illegal line was infuriating. And wasn't remotely what he said, btw. Which is part of the problem: the statement (which was bad enough) got exaggerated quite quickly so that people who didn't hear it live (that would be: "most people") believed that's much closer to what he said than what he did. No excuse there- that's just what happens with these things: he should have been better prepared for that one.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 12:44 PM (PYAXX)

196 We have skeins of vengeance-wool at the Outrage Outlet.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 28, 2014 04:40 PM (hLRSq)

That, nic and all, made me laugh so hard!

Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2014 12:45 PM (8lmkt)

197 Basically- we think we know that, at some point, the earth's magnetic field will flip- and what was North will become South. Go long on compass making.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:45 PM (ndIek)

198 Results of WSJ/NBC poll re the actual state of the union http://t.co/tieanfHqsV

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:45 PM (DmNpO)

199 Andrea Mitchell's brain is as dried up and barren as her cooch. http://tinyurl.com/me8ayto

Posted by: steevy at January 28, 2014 12:46 PM (zqvg6)

200

The bully pulpit is really something eh? Here we are, talking about "inequality" when we should be talking about the fucking lying liar who lied and stole your health insurance and ruined the fucking economy.

You want fucking income inequality go to North Korea and eat a fucking dog, if you're lucky and can catch one.

Next question.

Posted by: prescient11 at January 28, 2014 12:46 PM (tVTLU)

201 Basically- we think we know that, at some point, the earth's magnetic field will flip- and what was North will become South.

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So the seasons would flip too, right? Does this mean I can wear white after Labor Day?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 12:46 PM (P6QsQ)

202 Challenger thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:47 PM (DmNpO)

203 Nood NASA

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 12:48 PM (PYAXX)

204 So, basically, we're sliding into the model of government that was employed by the Caesars. Big , wealthy city-state supported by a vast empire of nobodies.... whose wealth is used to pay for patronage.

yay.

Posted by: DRH at January 28, 2014 12:48 PM (xFoDt)

205 So the seasons would flip too, right? Does this mean I can wear white after Labor Day?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 04:46 PM (P6QsQ)

OMG, grammie winger, you're right! Plus, linen year-round, woo hoo!

Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2014 12:48 PM (8lmkt)

206 What we have no clue about (and they're asserting as doom-tastic a scenario as possible so they can get $$$) is what will happen while the Magnetosphere undergoes that change.

It's been awhile, but I believe the UN gets mutantized.

Posted by: HR at January 28, 2014 12:48 PM (ZKzrr)

207 but to hear Mitt talk, or...as is more accurately pointed out...to hear those who heard mitt talk and then by going by their impressions... he never had the heart to run. you'd think our 2012 would have some piss n' vinegar?

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:48 PM (QxSug)

208 183 Heh, turns out I'm at least the *fifth* to bring up Hunger Games. I can't wait to see Catching fire when it gets to DVD. Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 04:41 PM (X3GkB) Seen it. It came across as a very anti-establishment sort of movie. It reinforces the message of the Tea Party and the more extreme worriers about our out of touch, out of control government. It is the sort of message that we WISH could be more popular in movies and television instead of that Liberal Propaganda they are always beaming at us.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 12:48 PM (bb5+k)

209
On the CEO pay thing, if you do the math for WalMart, taking every penny of the CEO's yearly pay and dole it out equally to every WM employee, you end up with an annual salary increase of about $10.

Annual, not monthly.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2014 12:49 PM (TIIx5)

210 That, nic and all, made me laugh so hard!

Posted by: Peaches at January 28, 2014 04:45 PM (8lmkt)

We aim to please.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Buy a Hissy or Coniption, Get a Free Fitting! at January 28, 2014 12:49 PM (hLRSq)

211 Spare me the tears for the CEOs. Have you ever heard of the term "Golden Parachute?"

If we fired the CEO of McDonalds and gave his salary to the real workers, they'd all get a 2 cent raise! Progress must pro-gress!

Posted by: Leftard at January 28, 2014 12:50 PM (YmPwQ)

212 yep, hunger games movie has the problem that all pissy liberals encounter: when you get it in your mind to show those republicans by writing a dystopia, your villains always end up being current or historical liberals. The interesting character always ends up being the conservative type (like Rorschach)

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:51 PM (QxSug)

213 You want fucking income inequality go to North Korea and eat a fucking dog, if you're lucky and can catch one. Next question. Posted by: prescient11 at January 28, 2014 04:46 PM (tVTLU) Or Cuba. According to Michael Totten everyone there gets $20.00 per month from the government. It is illegal to earn more.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 12:52 PM (bb5+k)

214 132 Romney is, IMHO, too easily and frequently attacked by the right for being precisely the type of man that we SHOULD want to see in office: A man who would let his leadership, rather than his big mouth, speak volumes. I am not inspired by big mouths who run down others. I'm not. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 04:29 PM (DmNpO) --Be that as it may, I'm more with the Milton Friedman system of making the wrong guy do the right things.

Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 12:53 PM (X3GkB)

215 206 It's been awhile, but I believe the UN gets mutantized.
Posted by: HR at January 28, 2014 04:48 PM (ZKzrr)
Already happened.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2014 12:54 PM (F75MN)

216 Bush was no fan of nationalized health care. And Romney was no fan of Amnesty and open borders and 'dreamers.' They cancel each other out. Therefore, Bush and Romney would be equal.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 12:55 PM (qbQhu)

217 213 Or Cuba. According to Michael Totten everyone there gets $20.00 per month from the government.
It is illegal to earn more. Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 04:52 PM (bb5+k)
Isn't everyone a doctor down there?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2014 12:56 PM (F75MN)

218 My stock response to liberals to complain about CEO pay is ... It ain't your damn money. And when they interject, but, but, ... I say it louder, It ain't your damn money!

Posted by: CandyCrowley at January 28, 2014 12:57 PM (HLthy)

219 hey, $20/month was good $ for the proletariat back in the 50's.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 12:57 PM (QxSug)

220

D-Lamp: It's referred to as the "maximum wage". LOL. And you can go to jail for 5 yrs for having some beef. 10 yrs if you don't tell the police you have it.

Yay income equality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just start laughing. I don't need facts. I don't need figures. I don't need a long article or to compares presidents.

Just hysterical, mocking laughter. Any time these fucks say "inequality" or "middle class", laughter is what should ensue. And someone calling this fuck out for what he is, a liar, and a bad one at that.

Posted by: prescient11 at January 28, 2014 01:02 PM (tVTLU)

221 And you can go to jail for 5 yrs for having some beef. 10 yrs if you don't tell the police you have it. **** I think in the SOTU, obama will introduce this and also make it 15 years if you aren't down with ghey marriage.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather's Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 01:06 PM (QxSug)

222 late and dead thread but on the sun's magnetic pole flipping --that happens every ~11 or 22 years as part of the solar cycle and is no biggie. Current sun cycle is weaker and longer than normal and has folks speculating about possible longish term solar minimums which go with mini ice ages. Earth pole flipping is 10k or 100K year type frequency, no one knows what kinds of disruptions may go with that.

Posted by: palerider at January 28, 2014 01:12 PM (dkExz)

223 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 04:29 PM (DmNpO) Well said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 28, 2014 01:13 PM (7kkQJ)

224 If income inequality is so terrible, maybe we should stop importing so much of it from Mexico. It's such a crazy idea, but it just might work.

Posted by: Joe at January 28, 2014 01:37 PM (QFnhZ)

225 The King takes care of his court, the rest of us, not so much.

Posted by: teh Wind at January 28, 2014 01:44 PM (b+5vQ)

226 **If income inequality is so terrible, maybe we should stop importing so much of it from Mexico. It's such a crazy idea, but it just might work.** FTW

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather's Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 01:51 PM (QxSug)

227 126 >>The Capital - The Districts. Where's our Katniss Everdeen? Alaska? --- She decided to make money as a celebrity instead.

Posted by: whoever at January 28, 2014 01:55 PM (zu9Ee)

228 Yep, and here's a good way to explain income inequality to a leftist http://brother-bobs-blog.blogspot.com/2012/08/its-time-to-focus-on-income-inequality.html

Posted by: Brother Bob at January 28, 2014 04:08 PM (c8l4q)

229

In Cuba 85% of anything worth owning belongs to the Castro brothers, they rest belongs to the Communist party.

The world city with the most billionaires living there? ... Mocow of course.

Posted by: burt at January 29, 2014 07:01 AM (1+kJ5)

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