February 12, 2014
— Ace Ron Fournier is getting weary of defending an incompetent law.
Why I'm Getting Sick of Defending ObamacareIncompetence, politics, and delays frustrate advocates of health care reform.
It's getting difficult and slinking toward impossible to defend the Affordable Care Act. The latest blow to Democratic candidates, liberal activists, and naïve columnists like me came Monday from the White House, which announced yet another delay in the Obamacare implementation.
For the second time in a year, certain businesses were given more time before being forced to offer health insurance to most of their full-time workers. Employers with 50 to 99 workers were given until 2016 to comply, two years longer than required by law. During a yearlong grace period, larger companies will be required to insure fewer employees than spelled out in the law.
Not coincidentally, the delays punt implementation beyond congressional elections in November, which raises the first problem with defending Obamacare: The White House has politicized its signature policy.
The win-at-all-cost mentality helped create a culture in which a partisan-line vote was deemed sufficient for passing transcendent legislation. It spurred advisers to develop a dishonest talking point—"If you like your health plan, you'll be able to keep your health plan." And political expediency led Obama to repeat the line, over and over and over again, when he knew, or should have known, it was false.
Defending the ACA became painfully harder when online insurance markets were launched from a multi-million-dollar website that didn't work, when autopsies on the administration's actions revealed an epidemic of incompetence that began in the Oval Office and ended with no accountability.
Read the whole thing. Now Kirsten Powers agrees: "Amen, Brother."
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Posted by: bicentennialguy at February 12, 2014 08:09 AM (vg8iE)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2014 08:09 AM (7ObY1)
"Unfortunately, the president and his team are making their good intentions almost indefensible."
Posted by: aquaviva at February 12, 2014 08:09 AM (wFinq)
Posted by: Mitch The Bitch McConnell at February 12, 2014 08:09 AM (Q6pxP)
Posted by: John McCain at February 12, 2014 08:10 AM (Q6pxP)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2014 08:10 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 12, 2014 08:11 AM (HxSXm)
Posted by: ExSnipe at February 12, 2014 08:11 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2014 08:11 AM (T0NGe)
Ah, yes. Focusing on what is truly important- the effect Obamacare has had on the career prospects of Democrat politicians, activists and columnists.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 08:11 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 12, 2014 08:11 AM (eGmvn)
Posted by: resist we much at February 12, 2014 08:11 AM (u0wJh)
Posted by: John Beohner at February 12, 2014 08:11 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at February 12, 2014 08:12 AM (Q6pxP)
Posted by: kathysaysso at February 12, 2014 08:12 AM (6H6o8)
Pity that, I wanted to get a few kicks in first.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 08:12 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 12, 2014 08:12 AM (Os+6p)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 08:12 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 12, 2014 08:12 AM (CnA98)
Posted by: Nancy McBotox at February 12, 2014 08:13 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: The MFM at February 12, 2014 08:13 AM (Dwehj)
One wonders, then, why you even have a job.
Also, you misspelled "felching lickspittle".
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 12, 2014 08:13 AM (t8ySh)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 08:13 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Tee09 at February 12, 2014 08:13 AM (uJFYb)
Posted by: resist we much at February 12, 2014 08:14 AM (u0wJh)
Wingnuts.
Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2014 08:14 AM (TKFmG)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2014 08:14 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2014 08:14 AM (7ObY1)
Remember when newt would actually talk, and discuss the issues of the day when he was Speaker?
Member that?
So what the fuck are those GOP clowns doing? That OLD OLD OLD Where are the jobs Mr Present.
They are supposed to be doing things like critique and analyze.
But they completely abdicate every single repsonsibility they have.
It is just sickening.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at February 12, 2014 08:15 AM (HQml1)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:15 AM (Or1K6)
At least that's what he told us last night in the throes of passion.
Posted by: MFM at February 12, 2014 08:15 AM (OZmbA)
OT: The sidebar article about a post-racial world and Jerry Seinfeld: I am an avid Seahawks fan, and was pissed off the other day to read an article that blathered on about how Russell Wilson was only the second "African-American" QB to win the Super Bowl. FUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK! Until that moment, I'd never thought of him as anything other than a young, Christian, intelligent athlete who works hard and has faith in what he is doing. And I'm a racist because I'm Conservative.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 12, 2014 08:16 AM (TM1p8)
.....which raises the first problem with defending Obamacare: The White House has politicized its signature policy.
I think I see a pattern.
Posted by: eleven at February 12, 2014 08:16 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: Erowmero at February 12, 2014 08:16 AM (OONaw)
So, do you know the difference between a Corvette and a hole in the ground?
http://tinyurl.com/mln5xqb
Posted by: maddogg at February 12, 2014 08:17 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Typical RINO Consultant at February 12, 2014 08:17 AM (Q6pxP)
Unfortunately, I don't trust a government, any government, to get these things done. Nor should anyone, from the right, center, or even the left.
Monstrous governments have been created for the best of reasons...
Posted by: gork at February 12, 2014 08:17 AM (phsxf)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2014 08:17 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 12, 2014 08:17 AM (aDwsi)
And political expediency led Obama to repeat the line, over and over and over again, when he knew, or should have known, it was false.
He knew. He always knew. He's a goddamned liar. The sooner you get that through your thick skull, the sooner you won't have to be "tired," you kneepad-dependent nickelfucker.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 12, 2014 08:17 AM (zF6Iw)
So in my opinion this not the time to get distracted by other issues, not the time to provide any talking points to the Dems (immigration, debt ceiling, etc.). Just pour it on this.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 08:17 AM (gmoEG)
Republicans call Obama 'lawless' as if it's something as innocuous as having a cold. For cripes sake, if he's lawless then he's breaking the law. And if he's not breaking the law, then don't call him lawless.
But if he is, then he needs, and deserves, to be treated like a criminal.
How the hell is it within the realm of possibility that the repubs are so impotent against this man?
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 12, 2014 08:17 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 08:18 AM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 12, 2014 08:18 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 12:13 PM (/o+xv)
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She's also Anthony Weiner's sloppy seconds.
Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 08:18 AM (PFy0L)
I know she's from Alaska and all, but she doesn't live there now. Don't they have tanning beds in NYC? Or can't she afford a vacation to The Bahamas or something?
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And those ELBOWS! *shudder*
Posted by: Off to Fire Island at February 12, 2014 08:18 AM (vgIRn)
If you feel tired of defending it, don't.
Conservatives got tired of defending Bush after the immigration reform push and the Myers SCOTUS nom. That's when W got to the low 30s and high 20s in polls.
Posted by: Jollyroger at February 12, 2014 08:18 AM (t06LC)
The "economy" is stone dead where I live on the GA coast. Businesses dropping like flies. Real Estate still dead in the water. Are clowns like him ever going to wake up?
Posted by: backhoe at February 12, 2014 08:18 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Zombie Admiral Rickover at February 12, 2014 08:18 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at February 12, 2014 08:18 AM (6bMeY)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:19 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 12, 2014 08:19 AM (9Bdcz)
But they completely abdicate every single repsonsibility they have.
It is just sickening.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at February 12, 2014 12:15 PM (HQml1)
But can't do anything without a majority!
/sarc
Apparently, rhetorical combat in defense of principles isn't also necessary in its own right.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 08:19 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 12, 2014 08:19 AM (ZPrif)
You're supposed to just call us racists and move along to talking about Michelle's sweet fashion sense.
Have you seen her latest dress? $12,000 and she looks like an extra from The Shadow Over Innsmouth. Zachary Taylor was more of a fashion icon than Aunt Esther.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 12, 2014 08:19 AM (zF6Iw)
The win-at-all-cost mentality helped create a culture in which a partisan-line vote was deemed sufficient for passing transcendent legislation. It spurred advisers to develop a dishonest talking point—
when autopsies on the administration's actions revealed an epidemic of incompetence that began in the Oval Office and ended with NO Accountability (thanks Ron)---why that sounds mighty racist nazi of you Fournier. Millions on the other team said this and were shouted down for pointing this out years ago.
I mean you cannot say something is wrong with the administrations stealing for the govt use 1/6 of the economy and 'taxing' others to poverty.
right Ron?
Posted by: willow at February 12, 2014 08:19 AM (nqBYe)
The Democrats should have known this was going to be a train wreck from the first moment, when Pelosi cakled to the crowd "It's Alive!" and backed away from the rising monster, clutching her gavel in case she needed to defend herself. Thats what you get, Democrats, when you sacrifice young children and single parents, the middle class and the poor, all to make an unholy deal with the insurance industry and pubic employee union cabal.
We don't need an election to undo this fascist shit, we need an exorcism.
Posted by: MTF at February 12, 2014 08:19 AM (B5y+v)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:20 AM (Or1K6)
Hayek has a simple but powerful explanation for why central planning always turns out to be sub-optimal, and in the end needs to turn tyrannical. Like a Soviet five-year plan, as it unfolds ObamaCare is once again proving this, a lesson we should already understand.
Everything the federal government has gotten involved in "to help the middle class" has turned out to be a financial failure, often with escalating prices that hurts the middle class and prices out the working class unless subsidized. Unfortunately this now includes huge swaths of the economy including healthcare, higher education and housing.
Posted by: ignoramus at February 12, 2014 08:20 AM (EPEqj)
Posted by: James from Plains at February 12, 2014 12:15 PM (Q6pxP)
Please, bitch. Miss me yet?
Posted by: James Buchanan at February 12, 2014 08:20 AM (zF6Iw)
I mean, everyone I know thought this was gonna be great!
This is really coming at me from out of left field.
Seriously, who could have possibly predicted this?
Posted by: Ron Fournier at February 12, 2014 08:21 AM (NXg/k)
Posted by: Seems Legit at February 12, 2014 08:22 AM (osdNx)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 12, 2014 08:22 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 12, 2014 08:22 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at February 12, 2014 08:22 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at February 12, 2014 08:22 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 12, 2014 08:22 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:23 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: MacGruber at February 12, 2014 08:23 AM (xvtYZ)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 12, 2014 08:23 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: SL at February 12, 2014 08:23 AM (qWAB9)
Posted by: Brian Ross at February 12, 2014 08:23 AM (Aif/5)
The thing you wingnuts just do not understand is we only have 227 House Seats. Not enough to do ANYTHING other than roll over and take it up the ass.
However, if we give Obama everything he wants now, we'll win later. See ? Then, when we've got a non-veto proof Senate Majority, Barack will HAVE to start seeing things our way. Because of rules and such.
Now where in the hell is my scotch. Shit like this makes me want to cry.
Posted by: John Boner at February 12, 2014 08:24 AM (r/95y)
Posted by: maddogg at February 12, 2014 08:24 AM (xWW96)
This is bad.
Rush: We're in uncharted territory.
Yes, Rush. We now have a king.
I know. That struck me right away. I'm waiting for the "Folks, I've always said I'd tell you when it is time to panic. It is time to panic."
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 08:24 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: ExSnipe at February 12, 2014 08:24 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: dogfish at February 12, 2014 08:24 AM (nsOJa)
If the bar for "High crimes and misdemeanors" was set that low, almost every President in modern history would've faced impeachment. Seperation of Powers doctrine is there for a reason.
You don't have to be a 38th Level Political Wizard to understand why impeachment hearings over this would be stupid.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 08:24 AM (SY2Kh)
The win-at-all-cost mentality helped create a culture in which a partisan-line vote was deemed sufficient for passing transcendent legislation. It spurred advisers to develop a dishonest talking point—"If you like your health plan, you'll be able to keep your health plan." And political expediency led Obama to repeat the line, over and over and over again, when he knew, or should have known, it was false.
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A couple of things...
First, the "culture" isn't to blame. It's the people. No one forced people like Ron Fournier to agitate for and then defend Obamacare.
And it isn't the fault of "political expediency" that Obama lied. He lied. It's his fault. And wasn't he the guy who was supposed to transcend politics as usual anyway...? How is it the fault of political expediency then?
Even when trying to appear critical, the Left just can't resist shifting blame.
Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 08:24 AM (PFy0L)
"So? Stop defending it then, dumbasses."
Vouch. And maybe admit that you were an idiot to believe and repeat all those lies in the first place, to demonize those who had more insight than you, and to continue after you had long since been proven wrong.
Also, maybe apologize to everyone who understand the basic concepts of supply and demand and math from day 1.
Posted by: Lea at February 12, 2014 08:24 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: scottst at February 12, 2014 08:25 AM (idA6q)
Posted by: Dr. Gosnell at February 12, 2014 08:25 AM (Q6pxP)
Posted by: LIV at February 12, 2014 08:25 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 12, 2014 08:25 AM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Donna Brazile at February 12, 2014 08:25 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Judge Pug at February 12, 2014 08:26 AM (NRYdU)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:26 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: RINO Overlord at February 12, 2014 08:26 AM (Aif/5)
Fouriner bascially admits that Obamacare is a piece of crap since he believes that the delay is political so as not to harm the Dems in the elections.
Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 08:26 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 08:26 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 12, 2014 08:27 AM (659DL)
Posted by: OFA at February 12, 2014 08:27 AM (xvtYZ)
"Transcendent." Fanboi much?
Posted by: joncelli at February 12, 2014 08:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 12, 2014 08:27 AM (aDwsi)
legislation.
transcends sanity.
Posted by: willow at February 12, 2014 08:28 AM (nqBYe)
Posted by: Debbie Whatshername Schultz at February 12, 2014 08:29 AM (uGddX)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2014 08:29 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 12, 2014 08:29 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 12, 2014 08:29 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 08:29 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:29 AM (Or1K6)
Conservatives got tired of defending Bush after the immigration reform push and the Myers SCOTUS nom. That's when W got to the low 30s and high 20s in polls.
Posted by: Jollyroger at February 12, 2014 12:18 PM (t06LC)
I never understood the blowback by the right for the Harriet Miers nomination.
Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 08:29 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 08:30 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Nancy McBotox at February 12, 2014 08:30 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Barack Obama the Munificent at February 12, 2014 08:30 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 12, 2014 08:31 AM (eGmvn)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 08:31 AM (/o+xv)
Yes, Rush. We now have a king.
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 12:23 PM (Or1K6)
Barry: And a king is for life, peasants
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 08:31 AM (1Jaio)
Rep. Frank Wolf, Va.
I hope that a few of these gutless wonders have primary challenges.
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He's retiring this year and will be replaced by a Democrat.
Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 08:31 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 12:24 PM (SY2Kh)
I'm not really interested in pulling all of the attention off of the ObamaCare catastrophe and into a circus of impeachment, what with all of the 'racist' claptrap that will happen.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 08:31 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 08:31 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 12, 2014 08:31 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 08:32 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 12, 2014 08:32 AM (4+PCd)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 12, 2014 08:33 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Nancy McBotox at February 12, 2014 08:33 AM (1Y+hH)
Because it was an epic lapse in judgement that he refused to reconsider until she made an ass of herself in confirmation hearings.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 08:33 AM (SY2Kh)
If I were a real bitch, I'd file a complaint about it violating our solicitation policy. Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod
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I'd be interested in her daughter's cookies.
Posted by: Woody Allen at February 12, 2014 08:33 AM (OZmbA)
Gee. What a concept.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 08:33 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:33 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 12, 2014 08:33 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 12, 2014 08:34 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Said No One, Ever [/i] at February 12, 2014 08:34 AM (CnA98)
Posted by: Barack Obama the Munificent at February 12, 2014 12:30 PM (OZmbA)
The dress is as tacky as she is
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 08:34 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at February 12, 2014 08:34 AM (XvrTA)
Incompetence, politics, and delays frustrate advocates of health care reform.
It's getting difficult and slinking toward impossible to defend the Affordable Care Actso it's not the health care law, it's the implementation?
Posted by: willow at February 12, 2014 08:34 AM (nqBYe)
However, if we give Obama everything he wants now, we'll win later. See ? Then, when we've got a non-veto proof Senate Majority, Barack will HAVE to start seeing things our way. Because of rules and such.
Now where in the hell is my scotch. Shit like this makes me want to cry.
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Amen, Brotha!
Posted by: Joke Raw at February 12, 2014 08:35 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 08:35 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: blaster at February 12, 2014 08:35 AM (GEyMk)
Posted by: eleven at February 12, 2014 08:35 AM (KXm42)
My friends ...
... Yesterday I was proud to join 27 of my closest colleagues in undercutting an otherwise Republican Majority and granting this Administration a blank check on spending. You see, when you don't have the votes, you can't stop bad Legislation. And when 28 of us cross the aisle ... You just do not have the votes. This is what Divided Government looks like ... when about 10% of us join the other team.
Glad that's over. Where's that damned Scotch. Bottle must have legs.
Posted by: John Boner at February 12, 2014 08:36 AM (s8N9C)
What kind of man allows others to call him Bushhitler and not say something about it?
One with quiet dignity.
One laboring under the deadly misconception that Democrats have souls.
Posted by: James Buchanan at February 12, 2014 08:36 AM (zF6Iw)
And this regime would do it too.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 12, 2014 12:34 PM (oFCZn)
He wouldn't say it until shots were already fired. And it wouldn't be "It is time to panic." It would be "look out for yourselves."
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 08:36 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 08:36 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 12:33 PM (SY2Kh)
I would bet you did not watch one second of the hearings.
Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 08:36 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 12, 2014 08:36 AM (659DL)
Ya know, they used to call it a "party-line vote"--does Mr. Fournier's contract require him to use the word "partisan" at least once per article?
Posted by: JeanQ at February 12, 2014 08:36 AM (82lr7)
Conjecture. That seat will be the definition of a tossup.
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I dunno - some of the righty-leaning areas of his district went to Connolly's district when the legislature did their redistricting a couple of years ago. And a good sized chunk of his district elected Jennifer Wexton to replace Mark Herring.
I don't see an R taking that district.
Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 08:36 AM (PFy0L)
Posted by: model_1066 at February 12, 2014 08:37 AM (LIQGY)
Posted by: ExSnipe at February 12, 2014 08:38 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 08:38 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 12, 2014 08:38 AM (qZr+9)
If I were a real bitch, I'd file a complaint about it violating our solicitation policy.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 12, 2014 12:32 PM (4+PCd)
Just tell her you don't like the taste of abortion cookies.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 12, 2014 08:38 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 12:12 PM (/o+xv)
she dated Carlos Danger ... think that turns in the hot card.
Posted by: rich@gmu at February 12, 2014 08:38 AM (3yFC4)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:38 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 12, 2014 08:39 AM (zF6Iw)
Posted by: Said No One, Ever at February 12, 2014 12:34 PM (CnA9
All I've got left are nudes. But be warned, you'll never be able to eat at Arby's again.
Posted by: Debbie at February 12, 2014 08:39 AM (2DunM)
>>It's getting difficult and slinking toward impossible to defend the Affordable Care Act.<<
Wait..What? Is Barack gonna have to slap a bitch?
Posted by: Barack Obama at February 12, 2014 08:39 AM (xvtYZ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:39 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: King O and the Lefty Horde at February 12, 2014 08:40 AM (Ze8oh)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 08:40 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 12, 2014 08:40 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 12, 2014 08:40 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: blaster at February 12, 2014 08:40 AM (GEyMk)
After all, these assholes do own mirrors.
Posted by: ccoffer at February 12, 2014 08:40 AM (jQ/BW)
Posted by: Null at February 12, 2014 08:41 AM (P7hip)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 08:41 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: dogfish at February 12, 2014 08:42 AM (nsOJa)
They could have started the impeachment process on Holder 2-3 years ago. They chose not to, when they had a case.
Doing anything so silly as to think you are going to get anywhere with an Obama impeachment is... well, silly.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 12, 2014 08:43 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 08:43 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 08:43 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:43 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: Irish Girls Everywhere at February 12, 2014 08:43 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2014 08:44 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 08:44 AM (4w7wl)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2014 08:44 AM (HVff2)
OK, I'm misremembering. You're right- she got tanked after making an ass of herself with the Judiciary Committee, before she made it to confirmation hearings.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 08:44 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Socratease at February 12, 2014 08:44 AM (SZUi2)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 12, 2014 08:44 AM (ZshNr)
It takes a lot of material to cover an ass the size of Montana
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 08:45 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:46 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: Woody Allen[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:46 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: ACA Death Panel at February 12, 2014 08:46 AM (HVff2)
And you would lose that bet.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 12:40 PM (SY2Kh)
Yeah, sure I would.
Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 08:46 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:46 AM (Or1K6)
No wisecracks about my great grandmothers.
Posted by: eleven at February 12, 2014 08:46 AM (KXm42)
Posted by: GOP[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:47 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: model_1066 at February 12, 2014 08:47 AM (LIQGY)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 12:43 PM (1Y+hH)
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Yeah.... I caught bits and peices of him in the truck making my jobsite visits. He was en fuego on the IRS rules requiring business owners to pinkie swear they are not avoiding Obamacare mandates if they lay off or fire somebody.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2014 08:47 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2014 08:48 AM (HVff2)
Fellow Americans ...
... This country has real problems. And that is why YOUR Republican Party, right here in the People's House, is going to stand up and do what's right, by rolling over on our own majority and giving this Administration everything it wants.
Posted by: John Boner at February 12, 2014 08:48 AM (s8N9C)
Posted by: GOP[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:48 AM (45N4D)
She's got the look, she's got the look
Sho'nuff to be fresh off - the hook
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 08:48 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 08:48 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (32Ze2)
Then what? Is - will any of this be good? Pretty sure it won't be.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (BZAd3)
These "Oh, shit, really?" libtards get no respect from me.
We saw this shit coming years ago...and we said something about it. We were dismissed as radical knuckle draggers, racists, haters of humanity by these same people
Too little, too late.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (4Re4i)
He should have been drummed out of the Party then,
Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (T2V/1)
It simply does not compute. Even in the laws of physics, the arch law is that every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
obama, at every turn, defies this law. It makes no sense this would happen in the United States of America.
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 12:46 PM (Or1K6)
Barry: Have you seen the color of my skin? It reduces all opposition as racist. And the MFM relentlessly attacks any one who opposes me and enough people are that damn dumb to believe all of the bullshit
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (4+PCd)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 12:24 PM (SY2Kh)
I am not interested in seeing "Government Shutdown Theater" again. Nor do I want to see any more distractions (than will naturally appear) from the catastrophe that is ObamaCare. I know the Democrats and their enablers in the MSM are desperately looking for some good diversions and I see no reason to help them with that project.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 12:12 PM (/o+xv) I think you nailed the issue, moronwise.Would always pick her first for touch football.
Posted by: tubal at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:49 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2014 08:50 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 08:50 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 08:50 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 12, 2014 12:29 PM (HVff2)
Wolf is retiring and Comstock is running for his seat.
Posted by: rich@gmu at February 12, 2014 08:50 AM (3yFC4)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2014 08:50 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 08:50 AM (1Y+hH)
Oh well. I'm happy I have commas and periods here.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 08:51 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 08:51 AM (4w7wl)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:51 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 12:49 PM (/o+xv)
It's a trick question. She wouldn't be allowed within a mile of my bed because she's a raging liberal. If I was single (I'm not) I'd have to work my way through the thousands of hot conservatives first.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 08:52 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: ExSnipe at February 12, 2014 08:52 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:52 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 12:51 PM (Or1K6)
You're looking at it.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 08:52 AM (4Re4i)
Our government working hard for you.
Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2014 08:52 AM (TKFmG)
Posted by: Wendy at February 12, 2014 08:53 AM (4uSYN)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 08:53 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 08:53 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 12, 2014 12:50 PM (0HooB)
Yeah, they used to call us watchdogs.
Now, we just prefer to get it doggy style from His Awesomeness!
Posted by: MFM at February 12, 2014 08:53 AM (OZmbA)
I wouldn't. You don't get to touch your own team. Unless you're Jerry Sandusky.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2014 12:50 PM (T0NGe)Aahh, fair point. I'll have to settle for being the towel boy for her Yoga classes, I guess.
Posted by: tubal at February 12, 2014 08:53 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 12:49 PM (/o+xv)
probably not, but not seeing it with Miss Carlos Danger. Nina Davuluri is more my type (in my dreams)...
Posted by: rich@gmu at February 12, 2014 08:53 AM (3yFC4)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 12, 2014 08:53 AM (IL+rC)
Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2014 08:54 AM (7Iwef)
"Where is the goddam opposition??"
More like you should be asking, as well all should be asking, where are the jobs? Where are the jobs, Mr Present? I don't see any anywhere in Ohio, we're waiting for those jobs.
This country is doomed.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at February 12, 2014 08:54 AM (HQml1)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 08:54 AM (84gbM)
It's the elephant in the room, so to speak. Single payer IS better than Obamacare as it is today.
That is going to be next to impossible to fight, unless you make people care about the corruption and politicization in government.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 08:54 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:54 AM (45N4D)
Stop reading my mindthoughts!
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 12, 2014 12:53 PM (0HooB)
you're forgetting that really important variable: time.
Eventually, everything reaches equilibrium. Just maybe not in our lifetime.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 08:55 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 12, 2014 08:56 AM (32Ze2)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 08:56 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 08:56 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 08:56 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:56 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 08:56 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: Jeff at February 12, 2014 08:57 AM (vd6Gd)
Posted by: physics geek at February 12, 2014 08:57 AM (MT22W)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2014 12:56 PM (45N4D) I'm thinking Evangeline Lilly right about now.
Posted by: tubal at February 12, 2014 08:57 AM (YEQ2h)
Imagine, essentially the entire GOP leadership...well, all of them, can't muster the same level of rebuke that this bimbo has.
Nothin!
Not a fuckin thing!
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at February 12, 2014 08:57 AM (HQml1)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 08:58 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 12:54 PM (84gbM)
Yeah, it's like that hostage standoff scene in every cop show where:
State A: Bad guy has gun + hostage. Cop has gun.
Bad guy demands cop put down gun
State B: Bad guy has gun + hostage. Cop has no gun.
Bad guy wins.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 08:58 AM (4Re4i)
That's all well and good, the House can impeach, but the Senate won't convict. And the Democrats and their MSM enablers will be thanking Satan for the Republicans giving them a needed diversion from ObamaCare so that they can bring out the "Inspirational President Impeached By Racisity-Racist Republicans" theme and pound away with that for the next twelve to fourteen months.
I think I'll take a pass on that scenario.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 08:58 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 12:17 PM (gmoEG)
Hurrumph! You clearly have no grasp of nth-level multidimensional strategy as practiced in the highest echelons of Republican Party leadership. As all top people agree, the issue to focus upon, to the exclusion of all else and with a blindingly bright red ruby-driven laser beam focus, is, of course, immigration reform.
Peasant.
Posted by: Highly Paid GOP Consultant at February 12, 2014 08:59 AM (O66NZ)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 12, 2014 08:59 AM (4+PCd)
Posted by: model_1066 at February 12, 2014 08:59 AM (LIQGY)
Me = QB
No shotgun formations.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 12, 2014 12:56 PM (0HooB)
Kate Beckinsale = Center
Me = QB
on 39889. Ready? Break.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:00 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 09:00 AM (4w7wl)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 09:00 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: J School Student[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 09:00 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: Madge at February 12, 2014 09:00 AM (MphdD)
Look, we are for universal health care, but not this kind.
It isn't being done right, which is why it isn't working.
See, to make it work, you take out all the insurance companies as quick as you can, and force everyone into the government system.
And you destroy the GOP and turn them into gutless fucktards who will drool and get ragers just to be on your side.
That's how you do things.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at February 12, 2014 09:00 AM (HQml1)
Posted by: irright at February 12, 2014 09:00 AM (Ze8oh)
Posted by: President Michelle Obama Who Came After President Hillary!! at February 12, 2014 09:00 AM (RJMhd)
Holy snikes.
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 12:56 PM (RJMhd)
Take Obamacare, and replace it with Canada-style single payer today.
Taxes go up marginally, but:
No insurance premiums. No co-pays. No insurance burden on employers, save for supplemental coverage plans, which are comparatively cheap.
That, my friends, is a net economic *stimulus* compared to ObamaCare.
And let me assure you, my effective tax rate for my gross income is less in Canada *now* than it would be if I lived in the US. We do have high sales taxes to offset, but if you were to ask me to move back to the US, I'd refuse.
It would economically RUIN us.
And that's why single-payer is going to be *very* hard to fight. The most persuasive argument is that the government can't be trusted with it. It's not like Canada.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 09:00 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2014 12:58 PM (45N4D)
Given the scenario, I think a "handoff" is all that's required.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:01 AM (4Re4i)
What happened last October with Government Shutdown Theater and why would I want to do that one again? Why pick that plan when ObamaCare is right in front of us and will continue to be right in front of us exploding all on its own without anyone needing to do anything but say 'I told you so'?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 09:01 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 09:01 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: model_1066 at February 12, 2014 09:01 AM (LIQGY)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 09:02 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 09:02 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 09:02 AM (84gbM)
You have been freed from the tyranny of labor.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 12, 2014 09:02 AM (kVfSG)
I know an Irish chick who lives in an area where her skin tone kinda stands out. She constantly got razzed for being "pasty white" and too pale. Constantly told that "girl, you need to get some sun". Fuck that shit. I think she had beautiful skin. It's her natural fucking skin tone.
*
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Exactly. Would anybody say that Nicole Kidman, Debby Ryan, or Nikki Rhodes was "too pale"? There's heroin-chic deathly white, which these women are not, and then there's light-skinned or fair-skinned.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 12, 2014 09:03 AM (BDU/a)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2014 09:03 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 01:00 PM (4w7wl)
oh for crying out loud! someone hold my hair....
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:03 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 09:03 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: dogfish at February 12, 2014 09:03 AM (nsOJa)
Did you see her face? I think she's taken the "you're a fatty" taunts to heart. She's looking too skinny.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2014 01:02 PM (45N4D)She is looking a little peaky - but - she's still got the chassis of a Ford 350.
Posted by: tubal at February 12, 2014 09:03 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: Iblis at February 12, 2014 09:04 AM (9221z)
Kate Beckinsale = Center
Me = QB
on 39889. Ready? Break.
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"OK, on this play I'm going right up the middle and curving around the tight end.
Posted by: @JohnTant at February 12, 2014 09:04 AM (PFy0L)
"good intentions"
I do not think that means what he thinks it means.
Posted by: Mindy at February 12, 2014 09:04 AM (mQwL2)
Posted by: model_1066 at February 12, 2014 09:04 AM (LIQGY)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 09:04 AM (1Y+hH)
No insurance premiums. No co-pays. No insurance burden on employers, save for supplemental coverage plans, which are comparatively cheap.That, my friends, is a net economic *stimulus* compared to ObamaCare.
And let me assure you, my effective tax rate for my gross income is less in Canada *now* than it would be if I lived in the US. We do have high sales taxes to offset, but if you were to ask me to move back to the US, I'd refuse.It would economically RUIN us.And that's why single-payer is going to be *very* hard to fight. The most persuasive argument is that the government can't be trusted with it. It's not like Canada.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 01:00 PM (/29Nl)
So basically they will note to the people that having your thumb cut off is much, much better than having your arm amputated, and the people will nod and happily present their thumbs.
Posted by: joncelli at February 12, 2014 09:05 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 09:05 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 09:05 AM (45N4D)
I remember seeing her speak, and that her handlers complained she wasn't doing well in preparations for confirmation hearings. I guess I got them confused.
In any case, she was a poorly qualified crony pick who demonstrated herself to be a lightweight.
GW Bush deserved every criticism he got for nominating her. SCOTUS nominations are a Big Deal, and rolling the dice on a crony demonstrated bad judgement.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 09:06 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 09:06 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: tubal at February 12, 2014 01:03 PM (YEQ2h)
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..... with dualies.... the back end is still double wide.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2014 09:07 AM (nELVU)
No argument here.
Posted by: bonhomme at February 12, 2014 01:05 PM (45N4D)And I wouldn't be surprised to see her sporting a grille at the next state dinner.
Posted by: tubal at February 12, 2014 09:07 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: SFGoth at February 12, 2014 09:07 AM (iucOx)
Canada.
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 01:05 PM (Or1K6)
Judges another law unto themselves
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 09:07 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 12, 2014 09:07 AM (Y325w)
If the Master GOP Plan is Focus on ObamaCare ...what GOP Leader is out there talking about it ?
And why wouldn't King Barry just move forward on all other fronts with impunity ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 12, 2014 09:08 AM (s8N9C)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 09:08 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:08 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 09:08 AM (4w7wl)
Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2014 09:08 AM (7Iwef)
Posted by: Highly Paid GOP Consultant at February 12, 2014 12:59 PM (O66NZ)
...and a new data center...a data center!!!!
Posted by: rich@gmu at February 12, 2014 09:08 AM (3yFC4)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 09:08 AM (0HooB)
Yup, that pretty much sums it up.
Posted by: Socratease at February 12, 2014 12:44 PM (SZUi2)
**
I saw Incompetent Transcendence do an acoustic set at the Beacon in 83'
Blew. My. Mind.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 12, 2014 09:08 AM (NpXoL)
Posted by: RagamuffinB at February 12, 2014 09:09 AM (fzFF6)
Posted by: joncelli at February 12, 2014 01:05 PM (RD7QR)
Yep. And they fucking love it here. LOVE it. And cannot understand why the US just won't do it.
I can't argue with the family-level economics. The old system in the US bankrupted us once due to unforeseen surgeries. I have no danger of that here. Just a significant decline in the quality of care as the consequence.
But when I point out that the government is used as a weapon in the US, and single-payer would be the biggest weapon of them all, they start to get it a little.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 09:09 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 01:00 PM (/29Nl)
I'd bet you would return to the US to get an MRI if you thought you needed one immediately instead of a three month wait.
Once we go to a single payer, everyone will be waiting months for tests.
Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 09:09 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 12, 2014 09:10 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Jukin' John Roberts at February 12, 2014 09:10 AM (Ze8oh)
Posted by: t-bird at February 12, 2014 09:10 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: ExSnipe at February 12, 2014 09:10 AM (LKJt3)
In fairness, those photos were captured before she supped on seven rib eyes and two dozen lobsters. Some say her afterglow was stunning.
Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2014 09:11 AM (TKFmG)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 12, 2014 09:12 AM (4Vr+0)
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Your credibility is shot.
Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 09:12 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Lauren at February 12, 2014 09:12 AM (7Iwef)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:12 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: John Boehner at February 12, 2014 09:12 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 09:12 AM (Or1K6)
Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2014 01:11 PM (TKFmG)
Once my dry heaves stop, I'm going to hunt all of you down.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:13 AM (4Re4i)
I don't see a conviction happening if Obama is impeached. I do not see anything good coming from an impeachment, just giving him and his enablers a club to use on his foes and a distraction from his disasters.
That alone is - to me - sufficient reason not to impeach.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 01:08 PM (84gbM)
And at the end of the shutdown we were right where we would have been if it had never occurred. A gesture, and necessary at that time. I do not see where a repeat is going to be helpful at all.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 09:13 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: t-bird at February 12, 2014 09:13 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:13 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 12, 2014 09:14 AM (UcMlT)
Let's see:
* Legislation by the two most corrupt members of Congress, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ...
* passed on a strictly party-line vote, with input from non-Democrats blocked at every step of the way ...
* that is thousands of pages long, requiring the writing of tens of thousands of pages of regulations ...
* that mandates massive increases on taxes, including the first tax specifically levied on people who are *too poor* to buy something ...
* that specifically eschews many reforms, including tort record and opening insurance markets, that would alleviate problems that are driving up health costs unnecessarily ...
* that adds massive new bureaucracies to the health-care system, but not one single doctor or nurse ...
* the whole thing to be set up by an administration that is headed by a man who knows nothing about health care, and who, before being elected president, had not run so much as a lemonade stand ...
and this f***ing fool actually expected it to work!
In the immortal words of John McClane: "Welcome to the party, pal."
Posted by: Brown Line at February 12, 2014 09:14 AM (VrNoa)
Bunketh.
Posted by: dananjcon at February 12, 2014 09:14 AM (NpXoL)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 09:14 AM (4w7wl)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:14 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: irright at February 12, 2014 09:15 AM (Ze8oh)
Says the guy who still doesn't understand why people were upset about the Miers pick.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 09:15 AM (SY2Kh)
Really? What was your first clue, YOU FUCKING RETARD?
Posted by: Dang at February 12, 2014 09:15 AM (MNq6o)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 12, 2014 09:15 AM (UcMlT)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at February 12, 2014 09:15 AM (Ng/f0)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:15 AM (/o+xv)
IIRC, Alito took her place and Roberts came later.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 01:12 PM (SY2Kh)
Wrong again. Roberts was nominated first to take OConnors place. Renquist died. Nomination withdrawn and resubmitted for Chief Justice. Miers nominated. Wiothdrew. Alito nominated.
Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 09:15 AM (m2CN7)
Last time I checked the Eastern Provinces had sales taxes through the roof. I do admit it has been awhile since I last checked.
HST (harmonized sales tax) includes provincial and federal. In Ontario, it is 13%.
Where I lived in NYS was over 8% sales tax. So, for a $50 sweater, I pay 56.50 in Ontatio. I paid $54 in NY. On that scale, it is hardly noticed.
People hate it, but they are paying an extra $2.50 for a sweater, instead of $1200 per month for shitty health coverage, with deductibles and co-pays on top of it.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 09:16 AM (/29Nl)
supped on seven rib eyes and two dozen lobsters. Some say her afterglow
was stunning.
Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2014 01:11 PM (TKFmG)
Once my dry heaves stop, I'm going to hunt all of you down.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 01:13 PM (4Re4i)Well, the maitre'd at all State Dinners does make sure that a couple of buckets are kept handy near the head of the table, so.....
Posted by: tubal at February 12, 2014 09:16 AM (YEQ2h)
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 12, 2014 09:16 AM (rETpj)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)
You still haven't told me . You did attempt to pretend you watched her non existent hearings to come to your opinion though.
Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 09:17 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:17 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 09:18 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 09:18 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 01:12 PM (RJMhd)
iirc they were confirmed at the same time with Fred Thompson working the halls.
Posted by: rich@gmu at February 12, 2014 09:18 AM (3yFC4)
Well ultimately the Republicans got their punishment and we ended up with--
Kagan and Sotomayor.
Oy.
Yeah, just wait until it comes time for Obama to replace Ruth 'Death Walking' Ginsburg now that he's a lame duck.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 09:18 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 12, 2014 01:16 PM (s8N9C)
Calling what today?
Posted by: joncelli at February 12, 2014 09:18 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 12, 2014 01:10 PM (naUcP)
Why would I want to provide the Democrats with any diversions from ObamaCare? I like watching it blow up and I like the desperate flop-sweat spinning from their enablers (You get to sleep in and spend more time with the kids! At the homeless shelter! Because you lost your job! But you have free contraceptives!). I really cannot see, as I have said before, any reason to impeach if there is no possibility of conviction.
Why go through that theater? If it is only to vent frustration and rage on Obama, well fine. I'm not going to do that because it doesn't work.
I really have nothing more to say on the topic.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 09:19 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: Iblis at February 12, 2014 09:19 AM (9221z)
Posted by: eureka! at February 12, 2014 09:19 AM (xiXna)
"Yeah, dude. I know I completely and totally broke your car when I tried to rebuild the carburetor. Just let me build you a new car. From scratch. Really. I got this."
Posted by: Dang at February 12, 2014 09:19 AM (MNq6o)
Once we go to a single payer, everyone will be waiting months for tests.
I won't return to the US to get an MRI, because it would cost me money out of pocket that I don't have.
So I'll be waiting in line, unless it is urgently needed to save my life.
And I won't be bankrupted. Someday that may kill me. I get that.
Please don't misunderstand - this system sucks on ice. I am not an advocate for it.
I want to express just how hard it is going to be to argue against it.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 09:19 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:19 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 09:20 AM (45N4D)
Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 09:20 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 09:20 AM (Or1K6)
Does anyone have any actual proof that this happened on a widespread level at any point in the 20th century (say, percentage of US households bankrupted by a single surgery compared to the percentage headed by gay couples)?
The one study that sticks out is the one that examined the "more than half of bankruptcies are due to medical" schtick and noticed that a household with $50K in consumer debt and $1K in medical debt was always coded as a "medical bankruptcy." But you can't sway public opinion by showing people suffering from their tragic purchase of a jetski they can't afford.
Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 09:20 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: tubal at February 12, 2014 01:16 PM (YEQ2h)
I figured Mooch just ate raw meat and leftovers from the slaughterhouse that didn't qualify to be bologna.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:20 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 09:20 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 12, 2014 12:49 PM (32Ze2)
Oh, I sure know what that fucking means. Thus:
1. Find three good friends and get them in your inner circle and figure out a plan for escaping the main cities to a safe place in the country;
2. Pool your resources to buy a cabin on a swiftly flowing river in the foothills (Skykomish River, Washington . . . ), preferably something back in the brush aways from the main road. I can think of one spot where some C4 under a narrow bridge across that river would ensure the city folk/LIVs/zombie hordes would never get to the cabin.
3. Pool your resources to buy a deuce and a half from Army Surplus and pack it with all the seeds, alcohol, medicine, ammunition, and freeze dried food, and park it in a secure location close to the cabin. (Not stored in the cabin, in case someone gets there before your group).
4. Buy a three wheeler for every member of the family over the age of 5, and a papoose carrier for every member under that age, and park them where your family can get to them.
5. Guns required for each family: a. 1911 .45 cal. pistol for every adult; b. .50 cal. Barrett sniper rifle; 3. semi-auto riot shotgun with a Beta C-Mag
dual-lobed drum magazine; 4. AR-15 for every adult (and plenty of banana clips); a Ma Deuce mounted in the sidecar of the lead motorcycle for your caravan.
6. Plenty of backpacks, sleeping bags, fishing gear and camping gear.
7. When the balloon goes up, first make sure you have all your taxes filed, fishing and hunting licenses, passports and other ID, and most especially, permits for all the weaponry mentioned above. HA HA HA! WTF!?!?!
8. When the balloon goes up, marshall your family at the agreed meeting point with the other three families, load up, and get the fuck out of dodge and head to the cabin. The three wheelers guarantee you won't get trapped by traffic jams. Kill anything/anyone who tries to stop you.
9. Wait until 90% of the country kills itself off trying to eat, clear some land, plant some crops, and start the US over, with the original Constitution as written.
10. SUCCESS!!!
All of this shit would be considered paranoid lunacy a few years ago. Now, anyone who isn't actively putting something like this in place for their families is probably committing parental negligence.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 12, 2014 09:20 AM (TM1p8)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 12, 2014 09:21 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:21 AM (RJMhd)
About time, we've talking about it since 2009 (a D Rep from NYC submitted a bill to the House to repeal the 22nd amendment that year, and every session since).
Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 09:21 AM (ZKzrr)
Yes, it does matter when we elect damn RINOs.
Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 12, 2014 09:22 AM (T2V/1)
Like she's going to touch poor-people food when the WH chef will bring her wagyu.
Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 09:22 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2014 09:22 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: tubal at February 12, 2014 01:16 PM (YEQ2h)
It is wafer thin
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 09:23 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: model_1066 at February 12, 2014 09:23 AM (LIQGY)
Gown by a Venezuelan-American. Okay its got the Commie label.
Not a poddle skirt I see. But a sweep the floor powder blue skirt with pleats, I think Scarlett O'Hara and her curtain dress pioneered that. A black belt at least six inches wide encircling her waist. The powder blue dress goes up under the belt and the see through black patterned top so its actually a strapless dress. Top I would call a harem top because of how poofy the sleeves are and for being see through.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 09:23 AM (4w7wl)
So the feds get some of it. Interesting.
Fed and provincial used to be separate line items. They combined them to make the accounting easier.
And yeah, I am *sure* Barry would like a piece of that action.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 09:23 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 12, 2014 09:23 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 09:23 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Sharkman at February 12, 2014 01:20 PM (TM1p
No one talks about fight club.
OPSEC, fkr.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:23 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: Lincolntf at February 12, 2014 09:23 AM (ZshNr)
Wait til he gets into Filthy Filner, and Client #9's human trafficking (taking hookers across state lines).
Posted by: Iblis at February 12, 2014 01:19 PM (9221z)
**
Go on...I'm doing research on this very matter.
Posted by: Robert "Bob" Menendez at February 12, 2014 09:24 AM (NpXoL)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 09:24 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 09:24 AM (1Y+hH)
Rush just entertained the idea of obama not leaving in Jan 2017!
Rush never ever talks like this.
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 01:20 PM (Or1K6)
The problem with that, as I see it, is that the Dems have a shitload of toads who imagine themselves behind the Resolute desk. What, short of Plotzensee prison, could Barky offer to persuade someone like Joey Choo-Choo (OK, bad example, just give him a propeller beanie) or someone like Cankles to give up on that dream?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 12, 2014 09:24 AM (zF6Iw)
Debt ceiling, not budget.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 12, 2014 09:24 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2014 09:24 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:24 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 09:25 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: steevy at February 12, 2014 09:25 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 01:19 PM (/29Nl)
I understand you point and don't disagree that It will be hard to convince people otherwise. I'm just pointing out why Canada's system is tolerated at certain levels and why most medical breakthroughs in the world will be history if or when the United States decides to go to a single payer.
Posted by: polynikes at February 12, 2014 09:25 AM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 09:25 AM (Or1K6)
Hey guys, if you do finally get angry what do you think will happen?
Nothing. You're just the last marks to wake up to the con and therefore deserving of less respect than the opposition.
Posted by: CNN/MSNBC/ABC/CBS/PBS at February 12, 2014 09:26 AM (POpqt)
I don't know about the statistics. I do know that my wife and I had three surgeries in one year. And our coverage was 80/20. The 20+deductible destroyed our ability to pay.
And this was pre-Barry.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 09:26 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Jukin' John Roberts at February 12, 2014 01:10 PM (Ze8oh)
With all the latest developments, I'm coming around to the theory that Roberts isn't a traitor, he's the #1 fan of Let It Burn, and decided to give it a kick-start.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 12, 2014 09:26 AM (B/VB5)
Rush just entertained the idea of obama not leaving in Jan 2017!
Rush never ever talks like this.
Posted by: Soothsayer
Hillary: HE WON'T WHAT....!?!?!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 09:26 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 09:26 AM (7wu7R)
Rush just entertained the idea of obama not leaving in Jan 2017!
Rush never ever talks like this.
Posted by: Soothsayer
Just popped back in for a minute and the first thing I see is this.
I'm starting to get a bit concerned.
And Rush's time on the air may be coming to an end if he doesn't watch it.
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 01:24 PM (1Y+hH)
Who didn't see this coming? Show of hands... anyone? anyone?
Here's how it plays out:
1) CRISIS!
2) Martial Law
3) Confiscation of all weapons
4) Welcome to your FEMA camp
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:27 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:27 AM (RJMhd)
Michelle towered over Hollande, he looked like a Hobbit next to an Orc.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 09:27 AM (4w7wl)
Sad but true.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 09:27 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: Lester at February 12, 2014 09:27 AM (2UPXV)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 12, 2014 09:28 AM (WmfhQ)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:28 AM (/o+xv)
Obama has given companies a year's delay to reduce their number of employees. If they do, he has made his own law which make this action illegal. Obama has made up his own laws as he goes along as usual. Meanwhile Democrats in the House and Senate have agreed that they will do what ever he wants. The dictatorship is here!
Posted by: burt at February 12, 2014 09:28 AM (1+kJ5)
It sucks that the Left went cuckoo for cocoa puffs after 2000, but that would have been a terrible idea. O'Donnell went no where because partially because she responded to freaken Bill Maher.
Posted by: Shoot Me at February 12, 2014 09:28 AM (qiXMt)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 01:27 PM (RJMhd)
The House impeaches, the Senate prosecutes.
Two different bananas. Article 2, section 4.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:29 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 09:29 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: steevy at February 12, 2014 09:29 AM (zqvg6)
Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 09:29 AM (7wu7R)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 01:26 PM (1Jaio)
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..... and THAT .... my grandchildren .....is how the Civil War of 2017 got rolling.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2014 09:30 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 01:28 PM (/o+xv)
You missed the skin care tips thread over the weekend.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:30 AM (4Re4i)
No, but it's close to the Obama logo color which have been rapidly replacing the stronger navy/deep red coloring on the various fed and Dem party websites.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 12, 2014 09:30 AM (POpqt)
Two different bananas. Article 2, section 4.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 01:29 PM (4Re4i)
Barry the Constitutional Scholar: Except in regards to historic prezzies
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 09:30 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:30 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 12, 2014 09:30 AM (U7Ivf)
Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 09:31 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: mrp at February 12, 2014 09:31 AM (JBggj)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 09:32 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 12, 2014 09:32 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:32 AM (/o+xv)
You don't just go through the machinations.
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 01:30 PM (RJMhd)
Well, the House did it with clinton over ONE 1 (one) !! lie.
How many lies has this piece of shit told?
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:32 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:32 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at February 12, 2014 09:33 AM (Ze8oh)
Posted by: ESPN at February 12, 2014 09:33 AM (R5UOB)
The purge of certain high-ranking military officers?
No worries, right?
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 01:32 PM (1Y+hH)
Uncle Joe Stalin: None
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 09:33 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: AmishDude at February 12, 2014 09:34 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 09:34 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 09:34 AM (84gbM)
No insurance premiums."
Not true: Ontario, Alberta, and BC charge fees, which are collected by the income tax system.
Ontario also charges a fee to employers for covered employees.
http://canadaonline.about.com/cs/healthcareontario/a/ohippremiums.htm
It is *illegal* for a Canadian to pay for extra coverage out of his pocket: he *must* go through the government-run system. Which is why so many come to the US for "radical" procedures, such as CT and MRI scans.
Want to see the Canadian health system in action? Have a look at the Canadian feature film "The Barbarian Invasions", which depicts a man dying of cancer - and the how bribery and influence peddling is needed to get him the level of care that is taken for granted by most in this country.
What a swell idea: the feds wrecked the system we have, so let's turn *everything* over them!
Posted by: Brown Line at February 12, 2014 09:34 AM (VrNoa)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 09:34 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 09:35 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: tasker at February 12, 2014 09:35 AM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 12, 2014 01:34 PM (84gbM)
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Level One - Hold a pillow over their face.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2014 09:35 AM (nELVU)
420 ... There it was. GOP should have stopped this shit after 2010 - by making an example of someone further down the tree.
Barry was not this bold right out of the gate. He learned that he faced no real opposition.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 12, 2014 09:35 AM (s8N9C)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:35 AM (/o+xv)
The purge of certain high-ranking military officers?
No worries, right?
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 01:32 PM (1Y+hH)
Word from the line troops is that we're 1 step away from "political officers" a la soviet russia.
Speak 1 ill word about the DickTater and you're done.
Troops are leaving in droves.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:35 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: Sir Mix Alot at February 12, 2014 09:35 AM (UQuFF)
Finds out she is HIV positive. Turns out her hubby liked to have sex with HIV positive men. So she threw him out and divorced him. That much makes sense.
So she finds a new boytoy. And decides to get pregnant with him the old fashioned natural way. While taking a drug that is supposed to reduce the chances of her baby contracting it to less than 1%.
Now the baby girl Nina is three years old and luckily HIV negative. But how stupid stuck up do you have to be to risk harming another life just so you can find a new path? Bridget Gordon you are a monster.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 09:35 AM (4w7wl)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 12, 2014 09:35 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Iblis at February 12, 2014 09:36 AM (9221z)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at February 12, 2014 09:36 AM (BiS1y)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:37 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 12, 2014 09:37 AM (HsTG8)
That's NOT YOUR FUCKING JOB!!!
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 12, 2014 09:37 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: Barky O'Tool at February 12, 2014 09:37 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 09:37 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 09:38 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at February 12, 2014 09:38 AM (0HooB)
That combo's actually pretty classic; Markie Post wore it often on Night Court.
But Mooch has to give everything a hipster-starlet twist, which is where it all goes horribly wrong.
Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 09:38 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 09:39 AM (J79eW)
The one they had when they defended slavery and Jim Crow, or the one they had with Woodrow Wilson? Do you mean the moral center of FDR and Truman not hanging HD White and the fellow travelers, of LBJs racism destroying the black family? Or, just when they went all hippie so they could fuck in the mud?
Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 01:35 PM (4JkHl)
No, the one where they left Chiang Kai Shek high and dry... or maybe it was the one where they abandoned our troops in Vietnam, or maybe it was the one where they decided mass murderers should live and babies should die.
commie fucking bastard liberal piece of shit glow worm humping hook-nosed isnignificant little lunch-money-stolen, woe is me little pussies.
Am I ranting? I think I'm ranting.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:39 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 09:39 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 09:40 AM (4w7wl)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:40 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 09:40 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: AmishDude
This.
I love Rush, but how many times has he been wrong? More than a few.
Posted by: Dang at February 12, 2014 09:40 AM (MNq6o)
Lesbian Vampire Killers: http://tinyurl.com/oapkejs
Posted by: Sharkman at February 12, 2014 09:40 AM (TM1p8)
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:40 AM (4Re4i)
they had with Woodrow Wilson? Do you mean the moral center of FDR and
Truman not hanging HD White and the fellow travelers, of LBJs racism
destroying the black family? Or, just when they went all hippie so they
could fuck in the mud?
Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 01:35 PM (4JkHl)
No, the one where they left Chiang Kai Shek high and dry... or maybe it was the one where they abandoned our troops in Vietnam, or maybe it was the one where they decided mass murderers should live and babies should die.
commie fucking bastard liberal piece of shit glow worm humping hook-nosed isnignificant little lunch-money-stolen, woe is me little pussies.
Am I ranting? I think I'm ranting.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 01:39 PM (4Re4i)
And painted everyone who opposes them and the root of all evil
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 09:41 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: --- at February 12, 2014 09:41 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 12, 2014 09:41 AM (1Y+hH)
-------
Fuck.Ing.Poetry man.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2014 09:41 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:41 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: backhoe at February 12, 2014 09:42 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 12, 2014 09:42 AM (s8N9C)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 09:42 AM (4w7wl)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 01:40 PM (/o+xv)
Is there an armada of ships off of the coast loaded with troops ready to liberate us?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 12, 2014 09:42 AM (1Jaio)
There's been more than one of those. And it's taken awhile for some states to make that a crime.
Posted by: HR at February 12, 2014 09:42 AM (ZKzrr)
Here's what I know.
I net the same, at my current salary, as I netted back in 2005. And I am not responsible for copays or deductibles.
The math says I am ahead. Regardless of what line item is used to confiscate the money from me, I'm not fucked twice by paying for a premium and then paying for copays or deductibles.
My supplemental coverage can be billed for overflow with my wife's insurance, so we never have a co-pay on medication.
This is what you're up against when you argue against single-payer. Horror stories have *never* convinced the ignorant masses not to do something when they can personally benefit in the short term.
The only argument that has a chance of working is that the government is malicious and weaponized. And there's a smaller chance of using incompetence as an argument too.
Posted by: grognard at February 12, 2014 09:42 AM (/29Nl)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 09:43 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 12, 2014 09:43 AM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:44 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Jean at February 12, 2014 09:44 AM (4JkHl)
Posted by: garrett at February 12, 2014 09:44 AM (7wu7R)
Lesbian Vampires who are killers?
Lesbians who kill vampires?
People who kill lesbian vampires?
Sounds like it could be very complex with a lot of plot twists and stuff.
Posted by: Dang at February 12, 2014 09:44 AM (MNq6o)
Regrettable? Those are battle scars, and the reason why modern society invented things like soap and water and antibiotics. And prayer.
Posted by: Fritz at February 12, 2014 09:44 AM (TKFmG)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 12, 2014 09:45 AM (4w7wl)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 09:45 AM (J79eW)
Posted by: fixerupper at February 12, 2014 01:41 PM (nELVU)
I'll submit it to the English dept as a Haiku?
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:45 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 09:46 AM (E70Gb)
Posted by: Sharkman at February 12, 2014 01:40 PM
......Beavnado!!!!!!!
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 01:41 PM (/o+xv)
TEETH: http://tinyurl.com/yhn36pt (which is the original Zombeaver movie . . . )
Plus:
Wynona's Big Brown Beaver: http://tinyurl.com/pyefdog
Posted by: Sharkman at February 12, 2014 09:47 AM (TM1p8)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 09:47 AM (/o+xv)
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 12, 2014 09:47 AM (naUcP)
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 12, 2014 01:40 PM (/o+xv)
If he says "The chair is against the wall" it's on.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:48 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 12, 2014 09:48 AM (J79eW)
coconut oil Posted by: Soothsayer
Coconut oil on a hobo pelt? Huh. It might help with the smell, too.
Posted by: Dang at February 12, 2014 09:48 AM (MNq6o)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 01:43 PM (PYAXX)
I grant a LOT more flexibility to the opinion types. It was more of a generalized statement. Brian Williams defends the president, 'hard' newscasters do, almost exclusively.
I expect opinion casters to have an opinion and to broadcast it. Good for them. Rock your 1st Amendment.
I should be able to expect the reporters (a line which is becoming increasingly blurry) to simply report.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 12, 2014 09:48 AM (fwARV)
Posted by: George Tirebiter at February 12, 2014 09:49 AM (lryY4)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 09:49 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 09:49 AM (E70Gb)
Eff it. I want dibs on the spot on the scrapheap with the best view.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 12, 2014 01:47 PM (naUcP)
I call dibs on the lincoln memorial. For no other reason than it's the only one where I had a picture taken.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:49 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 12, 2014 09:50 AM (PYAXX)
I just find it mind boggling that there are enough HIV positive women having children that there's a statistic for the drug.
Posted by: Methos at February 12, 2014 09:51 AM (hO9ad)
you know what's good for your skin?
coconut oil (in your diet)
Posted by: Soothsayer at February 12, 2014 01:46 PM (E70Gb)
It has many uses.
And that's all I'll say about that.
Posted by: tangonine at February 12, 2014 09:51 AM (4Re4i)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 12, 2014 09:53 AM (pUAXu)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 12, 2014 09:53 AM (oUQKc)
Posted by: Dang at February 12, 2014 09:53 AM (MNq6o)
>>but Rush just said. John, has a long moustache.
.
.
.The Penguins are under the bed, repeat, under the bed. They are not in the refrigerator.
You are not authorized to use a herring at this time.
Posted by: Registered Voter at February 12, 2014 09:54 AM (xqjwP)
I should be able to expect the reporters (a line which is becoming increasingly blurry) to simply report.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 12, 2014 01:48 PM (fwARV)
Yeah. Um. We have this new rule about Critical Information that apparently you're unaware of... if you'll turn to page
Posted by: The FCC at February 12, 2014 09:54 AM (4Re4i)
That's NOT YOUR FUCKING JOB!!!
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 12, 2014 01:37 PM (fwARV)
Emotional investment, like parents doting over their simpleton klutz of a child.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Wrathful Grapes and Contemptuous Celery in the Produce Department! at February 12, 2014 09:54 AM (gmoEG)
Posted by: Mega at February 12, 2014 10:14 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Daybrother at February 12, 2014 01:53 PM (oUQKc)
=============================
You own it because it's funny? Sure you do.
Posted by: physics geek at February 12, 2014 10:19 AM (MT22W)
The one pathetic, desperate shot at stopping this law died in 2012 when the Democrats somehow gained seats in the Senate and an unpopular president in a crappy economy with every single indicator possible against him won reelection.
Somehow.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 12, 2014 10:21 AM (zfY+H)
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