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March 27, 2014

"Marginal Revolution" Economist Tyler Cowen Attacked with Pepper Stray in Middle of Teaching Class;
Attacker Identified
— Ace

First, the bizarre attack itself, apparently an attempted "citizens arrest."

A George Mason University law professor was pepper sprayed in his classroom today after a man tried to place him under a citizenÂ’s arrest, according to Arlington County police.
The incident happened at GMUÂ’s Arlington campus, near Virginia Square, around 3:00 p.m. Police say the man entered the classroom and attempted to place the professor under a citizenÂ’s arrest. The professor tried to get the man Â— described as a white male in his 20s or 30s Â— to leave, at which time the man pepper sprayed him and a scuffle ensued, according to Arlington County Police spokesman Dustin Sternbeck.

You might suspect this guy was a lefty motivated by politics. Well, he may or may not be a lefty, but he doesn't seem to be motivated by politics.

He seems to have been motivated by delusions.

The man who attacked economist and George Mason University professor Tyler Cowen with pepper spray yesterday has been identified as 31-year-old John Pendleton.

Now, we don't know this email came from this John Pendleton, but shortly before the attack, a John Pendleton left this comment on Cowen's blog:

What better place to do prison research than inside a prison?
If the police and FBI won't arrest you for hacking my computer and sexually harassing me over the past several months, I will do it myselfÂ—in the next couple weeks before school starts again. Either way, one of us is going to prison
I will entertain settlement offers at the email address provided.
Sincerely,
Jonathan E Pendleton

I'm going to assume, provisionally, that Cowen did not in fact hack Pendleton's computers, nor "sexually harass" him, apparently remotely.

Coincidentally enough -- and this is true -- when Cowen was suddenly pepper sprayed in an attempt at a "citizens arrest," he was teaching a class on vigilante justice.

Cowen just emailed me to say he will go forward with next week's class, about Bugfuck Crazydrool Justice, as scheduled.

Thanks to Monty, @aoshqdoom.

Posted by: Ace at 02:10 PM | Comments (420)
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1 There's no justice like angry mob justice

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:12 PM (DpruE)

2 Fucking first too.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:13 PM (DpruE)

3 I own this thread

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:13 PM (DpruE)

4 Man, all my college classes were boring compared to this. I should've gone to Nutjob Leftist University instead!

Posted by: pookysgirl at March 27, 2014 02:13 PM (kMnHs)

5 Pepper Stray. Sounds painful

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at March 27, 2014 02:13 PM (Lqb+9)

6 Posted! No Trespassing!

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:14 PM (DpruE)

7 Coincidentally enough -- and this is true -- when Cowen was suddenly pepper sprayed in an attempt at a "citizens arrest," he was teaching a class on vigilante justice. --- Like ra-eee-ain on your wedding day The good advice that you just can't take A free ride After you've already paid Who would have thought? It figures...

Posted by: Overrated Canadian Pop Star at March 27, 2014 02:14 PM (APuJ7)

8 Assume an anti-pepper spray ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 27, 2014 02:15 PM (Uabwh)

9 Alright, which one of you morons hopped up on valu-rite and rancid hobo pulled this little stunt? Fess up.

Posted by: tcn at March 27, 2014 02:15 PM (fwcEs)

10 Oh well. He is a law prof.

Posted by: NCKate at March 27, 2014 02:15 PM (ImOr8)

11 I only hope this heinous act motivates Washington to enact common sense pepper spray control measures to protect the children.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:16 PM (DpruE)

12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efgLHgsBmM

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:17 PM (T2V/1)

13 I saw some lady got smashed in the face with a brick recently too. How many teeth must be lost before we see some common sense brick control laws passed?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:18 PM (DpruE)

14 Don't spray me bro !

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at March 27, 2014 02:18 PM (XWw96)

15 He seems to have violated the non-aggression principle. This does not compute.

Posted by: kartoffel at March 27, 2014 02:18 PM (sWwJZ)

16 He's nuttier than Ernest T. Bass.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at March 27, 2014 02:18 PM (T2V/1)

17 So torn...

Loony nutjobs doing violence on college campuses or law professors....

If the world could be made free of one or the other...

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 02:18 PM (BeSEI)

18 At least it was pepper spray and not HERS?

Posted by: HR at March 27, 2014 02:19 PM (ZKzrr)

19 I went to get the others but they threw stuff at me. Some kind of feminine product I think.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 02:19 PM (g4TxM)

20 I think Pendleton needs a case of HERS.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 02:19 PM (rNQTc)

21 stopped taking meds, is my bet

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 27, 2014 02:20 PM (XvrTA)

22 A thread about HERS and then a thread about pepper spray. Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: begerbilder at March 27, 2014 02:21 PM (8MjqI)

23 I so long for the day, hopefully soon, when some leftist retard pulls this shit and then winds up in ICU in a body cast with his asshole wired shut.

Posted by: B at March 27, 2014 02:21 PM (6iEQd)

24 So if you were going to hop up on the desk during their show and pepper spray a media talking head which one would it be?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:21 PM (DpruE)

25 Don't those pepper spray dispensers have...wait for it... ...triggers?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 02:21 PM (g4TxM)

26 I got nothing.

Posted by: flounder at March 27, 2014 02:21 PM (Kkt/i)

27 I got my specialty in Bugfuck Crazy Drool Justice

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 02:21 PM (zOTsN)

28 Ah yes, all us evil lawyers deserve to be assaulted.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 02:22 PM (GEICT)

29 did the attacker call himself "Amish Dude"?

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 02:22 PM (zOTsN)

30 I'm sure there's a French or German word for "an apparent irony that is only apparently so." I'm not sure a kookoobanana stalker's use of the word "justice" in their kookoobanananess actually makes the event anything to do with vigilantism, unless you define vigilantism as any violence involving a grudge - but that would make most gang crime "vigilantism." Also, I like to use the word "kookoobananas."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 27, 2014 02:22 PM (qyfb5)

31 10 NCKate, I concur... Not as though ay human was at risk

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 02:22 PM (TE35l)

32 I'm thinking Ronan Farrow, he looks like he'd bawl like a two year old girl.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:22 PM (DpruE)

33 Anyone heard from Amish dude?

Posted by: NCKate at March 27, 2014 02:23 PM (ImOr8)

34 28 Ah yes, all us evil lawyers deserve to be assaulted. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 06:22 PM (GEICT) It's a good start.

Posted by: Punch lines R Us at March 27, 2014 02:23 PM (z/Ubi)

35 Econ professor. (Shocking the media is incorrect, huh?) A good one too. Check out marginal revolution, his blog.

Posted by: traye at March 27, 2014 02:23 PM (C5axv)

36 Don't lock him up yet, there's another "law professor" I'd like him to arrest....or just pepper spray.

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2014 02:23 PM (j7iSn)

37 Pepper spray. Does is come in a HERS version?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2014 02:24 PM (ix+5k)

38 where did Pepper stray to ?

Posted by: seamrog at March 27, 2014 02:24 PM (ElHBY)

39 18 HR, Had it been Hers the Prof'd either be in blis or a beaker from meltng.... No in between

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 02:24 PM (TE35l)

40 I'm hot for teacher.

Posted by: Van Whalen[/i][/b][/s] at March 27, 2014 02:24 PM (DL2i+)

41 Either way, one of us is going to prison

Nailed it.

Posted by: Phinn at March 27, 2014 02:24 PM (i5GO4)

42 I'm a lawyer. Just thought I'd get the opening shot in.

Posted by: NCKate at March 27, 2014 02:24 PM (ImOr8)

43 Ban Assault Pepper Spray NOW!!!

Posted by: The Left at March 27, 2014 02:25 PM (udjuE)

44 Thank God it wasn't a wackadoodle with a gun.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 27, 2014 02:25 PM (oFCZn)

45 In my day, we would take scalps.

Posted by: Liawatha at March 27, 2014 02:25 PM (Kkt/i)

46 Bill Maher probably pays tranny hookers to pepper spray his eyes and genitals so no joy there.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:25 PM (DpruE)

47 Innocence? Check Imminence? Check Reasonableness? Borderline Proportionality? Negative Darn, you can't shoot the guy and claim self-defense (in most states).

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 02:25 PM (g4TxM)

48 35 TrayE, An Econ Prof was teaching about Vigilanteism? Strange strange place we're in

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 02:25 PM (TE35l)

49 People seem to have come to the conclusion awfully quickly that the law professor is NOT sexually harassing him through manipulation of his computer.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 02:26 PM (BeSEI)

50 I'm starting up a fund to bail out Amish Dude and pay for his defense

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 02:26 PM (zOTsN)

51 My lawyer is a lawyer.

Posted by: begerbilder at March 27, 2014 02:27 PM (8MjqI)

52 This is why ace blogs anonymously, even if a situation doesn't blow up it could get so spicy it comes to tears.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 27, 2014 02:27 PM (DL2i+)

53 Is the professor wearing his wedding band on the gay finger? I'm just curious. I mean... I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2014 02:27 PM (MNq6o)

54
GMU law school spokesperson Buzz McClain tells HuffPost that Cowen and the students in his "Law and Literature" class -- which McClain says was focused that day on the graphic novel "V for Vendetta"...

Law school, class reading is a comic book.

That deserves a pepper spraying.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 02:27 PM (kdS6q)

55 So, Russia is setting up field hospitals on the Ukrainian border now.

That's some weak shit, bro.

Posted by: Barack the Flaccid at March 27, 2014 02:27 PM (6iEQd)

56 what, pray tell, is the "gay finger"?

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 02:27 PM (zOTsN)

300,000 jews trapped in the Ukraine

seems like old times

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 02:28 PM (zOTsN)

58 Most people don't know enough about computers to hack young boys' webcams and send them sexually suggestive e-mails. Not me, for one.

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 27, 2014 02:28 PM (DpruE)

59 People seem to have come to the conclusion awfully quickly that the law professor is NOT sexually harassing him through manipulation of his computer.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 06:26 PM (BeSEI)

If Cowen were innocent, he probably wouldn't have gotten himself arrested, amiright?

The economics field is filled with pervs, by the way. Not saying anything one way or the other in this particular case, but yeah. Econ = perv-alanche.

Posted by: Phinn at March 27, 2014 02:28 PM (i5GO4)

60 56 what, pray tell, is the "gay finger"? Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 06:27 PM (zOTsN) Careful that ain't dirt under the fingernail.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 27, 2014 02:28 PM (oFCZn)

61 If I had a nickel for every time a law professor sexually harassed me through manipulation of my computer.....

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 02:29 PM (BeSEI)

62 Saw on the news last night that lawyers are already lining up at the trough for flight 370 payouts. They are traveling to China to do so. It kind of takes ambulance chasing to a whole new level.

Posted by: flounder at March 27, 2014 02:29 PM (Kkt/i)

63 what, pray tell, is the "gay finger"? Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 06:27 PM (zOTsN) Are you sure we really want to know?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 02:29 PM (t3UFN)

64 I'm not hip to gay man courting, but this appears to be a lovers' spat, no?

Posted by: Fritz at March 27, 2014 02:29 PM (oJUxt)

65 I think "pepper spray" was what happens after eating too much Mexican food. This John Pendleton guy is really gross.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2014 02:30 PM (MNq6o)

66 Hey anyone here ever been to Rock Island IL?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 02:30 PM (t3UFN)

67 48 George mason econ department is an unusual place. Mercatus center. If any one reads libertarian econ, you probably have read several of their professors. I think Tyler Cowan is the department head.

Posted by: traye at March 27, 2014 02:30 PM (C5axv)

68 We must ban pepper spray for the law professors!

Posted by: Bloomberg at March 27, 2014 02:30 PM (Aif/5)

69 Sucks for Cowen. Kinda surprised there aren't more crazy people incidents like this. There is a certain element of physical bravery for anyone who puts their name out there. And most people understandably don't want to deal with attracting the attention of some nutter.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2014 02:30 PM (ZPrif)

70 This is why ace blogs anonymously, even if a situation doesn't blow up it could get so spicy it comes to tears. Posted by: DaveA at March 27, 2014 06:27 PM (DL2i+) ..but enough about Helen Thomas' cooter pie

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 27, 2014 02:30 PM (XvrTA)

71 Who is Tyler Cowen?

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 02:30 PM (doBIb)

72 The Gay Finger? Worst amusement park ride ever.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 02:31 PM (ZshNr)

73 Can we settle on econ or law professor, please?

Half my jokes are on the line. I need clarity.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 02:31 PM (BeSEI)

74 So-called "educators" should get used to this type of treatment.

Posted by: Disgusted at March 27, 2014 02:31 PM (Cs2tJ)

75 47 Innocence? Check Imminence? Check Reasonableness? Borderline Proportionality? Negative Darn, you can't shoot the guy and claim self-defense (in most states). Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 06:25 PM (g4TxM) I'm not arguing the law, but isn't pepper spray incapacitating? Couldn't an assailant spray you, then take your wallet and gun?

Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2014 02:31 PM (sdi6R)

76 This is why I don't have pepper spray or a taser on my key chain. I'd just be dispending hot, burning justice all over the fucking place.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 27, 2014 02:32 PM (QBm1P)

77 The Gay Finger is like a Lady Finger only fruitier.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 27, 2014 02:32 PM (DpruE)

78 what, pray tell, is the "gay finger"?
Posted by: thunderb

Some gays wear their pretend wedding band on their right pretend ring finger.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2014 02:32 PM (MNq6o)

79 73 The Gay Finger? Worst amusement park ride ever.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 06:31 PM (ZshNr)

lol

Posted by: flounder at March 27, 2014 02:32 PM (Kkt/i)

80 72 -

First rule of Tyler Cowen club... we do NOT talk about Tyler Cowen club.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 02:32 PM (BeSEI)

81 74 Can we settle on econ or law professor, please?

Half my jokes are on the line. I need clarity.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 06:31 PM (BeSEI)

Econ, teaching a law-esque course.

So, it could go either way. (Ahem.)

Posted by: Phinn at March 27, 2014 02:32 PM (i5GO4)

82 So-called "educators" should get used to this type of treatment.

Posted by: Thoroughly Disgusted at March 27, 2014 02:32 PM (Cs2tJ)

83 Sounds like Pendleton should have been born a helicopter mom.

"Whaddaya mean you won't change my precious' grade from a B to an A?!? Now she'll never get into Vassar!!!" *ssssssssss*

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2014 02:33 PM (HVI5a)

84 He's an econ professor. Tyler Cowen is an American economist, academic, and writer. He occupies the Holbert C. Harris Chair of economics as a professor at George Mason University and is co-author, with Alex Tabarrok, of the popular economics blog Marginal Revolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Cowen

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 02:33 PM (GEICT)

85 So Tyler Cowen can teach both ways?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 02:33 PM (rNQTc)

86 I offered to sell this young man a gun but he went with the pepper spray. Whatever.

Posted by: Leland Yee at March 27, 2014 02:33 PM (oFCZn)

87 Cowen is probably the best know libertarian economist today. He writes at MarginalRevolution and has a regular column for NYT, I think. He's also a super foodie.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2014 02:33 PM (ZPrif)

88 No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to blow me!

Posted by: Gayfinger at March 27, 2014 02:33 PM (g4TxM)

89 Ga-a-a-ayfinger...he's the man with the caulking gun!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 27, 2014 02:34 PM (QBm1P)

90 85 quality

Posted by: traye at March 27, 2014 02:34 PM (C5axv)

91 His website clearly indicates ECON professor

Posted by: phreshone at March 27, 2014 02:35 PM (kFxpe)

92 After twenty years working as a techie grunt at a University, I would have loved to pepper spray 90% of the professoriat pukes. What a bunch of arrogant toe-rags.

Posted by: tubal at March 27, 2014 02:35 PM (aIgsi)

93 Ya'll do realize that there are plenty of reasons to wear a band on your right ring finger, right?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 02:35 PM (GEICT)

94 Thanks, I had heard the name before but couldn't place him.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 02:35 PM (doBIb)

95 86 Flatbush Joe, I like the guy, but I am in awe of the class I suppose.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 02:35 PM (TE35l)

96 Bugfuck Crazydrool Justice The moral of my story is: Don't read Ace in a quiet student library. You when something strikes you as disproportionately funny and you can't stop laughing? Yeah, I might get kicked out of here. Thanks asshole, I'm blaming you.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 02:35 PM (veQX1)

97 No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to blow me! Posted by: Gayfinger

That right there... is artistry.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2014 02:35 PM (MNq6o)

98
Cowen is probably the best know libertarian economist today.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe

So, he won't be chipping in for the tip?

Fine, everyone else kick in another buck for TYLER....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 02:35 PM (kdS6q)

99 Layers and layers of fact-checking

Posted by: Dan Rather at March 27, 2014 02:36 PM (kFxpe)

100 I'm not arguing the law, but isn't pepper spray incapacitating? Couldn't an assailant spray you, then take your wallet and gun? Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2014 06:31 PM (sdi6R) *** Good point- my understanding (IANAL) is that the pepper spray thing can go either way if it comes to a lethal self-defense case- depending on jurisdiction, DA and jury. I know it is discussed in The Law of Self Defense book.

Posted by: Gayfinger at March 27, 2014 02:37 PM (g4TxM)

101 If we are going to start pepper spraying economists I want Krugman at the top of the list. Or maybe hose him down with Hers.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 27, 2014 02:37 PM (g1DWB)

102 92 He has a stump for a left hand?

Posted by: NCKate at March 27, 2014 02:37 PM (ImOr8)

103 What the heck is a libertarian economics professor? Wouldn't that be like a white diversity professor? A male feminist studies professor?

Class One: Every man for himself!

Class Two: What are you people still doing here?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 02:37 PM (BeSEI)

104 Cowen has a lot of strong, unconventional political opinions. I can see him attracting political crazies. This guy looks like just a regular crazy.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2014 02:37 PM (ZPrif)

105 what, pray tell, is the "gay finger"?

Posted by: thunderb

What happens just before gay fist.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2014 02:38 PM (MNq6o)

106 Yet another sock fail, I need to take an early retirement.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 02:38 PM (g4TxM)

107 100 If we are going to start pepper spraying economists I want former Enron advisor Paul Krugman at the top of the list. Or maybe hose him down with Hers. Posted by: JackStraw at March 27, 2014 06:37 PM (g1DWB) Fixed.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 02:38 PM (GEICT)

108 what, pray tell, is the "gay finger"?

Posted by: thunderb

Ah-yup, Gay Fingah is right around Gay Head, but you can't get theyah from heyah.

Posted by: Guy in every Stephen King movie [/i][/b] at March 27, 2014 02:38 PM (Uabwh)

109 >>>> 66 Hey anyone here ever been to Rock Island IL? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 06:30 PM (t3UFN) Well, I've never been to Rock Island, but I kinda like the music Say the ladies are insane there, and they sure know how to use it.

Posted by: Three Dog Night at March 27, 2014 02:38 PM (8MjqI)

110 If Pendleton had bothered to ask us we could have directed him to the perv who actually is sexually harassing him over the internet.

Posted by: NSA at March 27, 2014 02:39 PM (udjuE)

111 Jesus, Ace. Stop hacking my computer and sexually harrassing me!

Posted by: Lauren E. Pendleton at March 27, 2014 02:39 PM (hFL/3)

112 100 Jack Straw, Hers would get you in the Hague's doc if Krugaton were Human....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 02:39 PM (TE35l)

113 101 92 He has a stump for a left hand? Posted by: NCKate at March 27, 2014 06:37 PM (ImOr Sure. Or he could be like one of my good friends from high school. His dad died during surgery about 13 years ago. He wears his dad's wedding band on his right ring finger.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 02:39 PM (GEICT)

114 107 what, pray tell, is the "gay finger"? Posted by: thunderb Ah-yup, Gay Fingah is right around Gay Head, but you can't get theyah from heyah. Posted by: Guy in every Stephen King movie at March 27, 2014 06:38 PM (Uabwh) Now there's an author I wish would shut the hell up...

Posted by: tubal at March 27, 2014 02:39 PM (aIgsi)

115
"In 2012, David Brooks called Cowen one of the most influential bloggers on the right"

Wikipedia

Kiss of death, right there.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 02:40 PM (kdS6q)

116 I have no idea what is going on. What is going on?

Posted by: dogfish at March 27, 2014 02:40 PM (nsOJa)

117 112 -

That's gay.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 02:41 PM (BeSEI)

118 114 "In 2012, David Brooks called Cowen one of the most influential bloggers on the right" Wikipedia Kiss of death, right there. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 06:40 PM (kdS6q) Sharp creases?

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 02:41 PM (doBIb)

119 After 100 posts, time for a bit of artsy culture.

http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/mary-jane-ansell-painting-19.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 02:41 PM (rNQTc)

120 I doubt Cowen would self-identify as libertarian, but most other people would identify him as one. He's super pro-amnesty. He mainly cares about having interesting ideas to think about and interesting food to taste. He thinks mass amnesty would raise the standard of living of poor foreigners more than it would impoverish the average American, so it's a good thing. Plus he likes obscure food, so more poor foreigners making interesting food for him is a huge plus.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2014 02:41 PM (ZPrif)

121 What I want to know is: How are the Koch Brothers involved in this heinous attack?

Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 02:41 PM (roTS7)

122 27 I got my specialty in Bugfuck Crazy Drool Justice Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 06:21 PM (zOTsN) I got an Associates Degreein it. From the night school run out the back of the local Denny's.

Posted by: wooga at March 27, 2014 02:41 PM (GrphI)

123 In 2012, David Brooks called Cowen

I knew it. Gay finger.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2014 02:42 PM (MNq6o)

124 He thinks mass amnesty would raise the standard of living of poor foreigners more than it would impoverish the average American, so it's a good thing. He can fuck right off then. Next time, I'll be pepper spraying his ass.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 02:42 PM (doBIb)

125 >>I have no idea what is going on. What is going on? Some crazy guy who may or may not have a gay finger slipped a gear and sprayed with a feminine hygiene product some econyer while he was teaching a class on gangs.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 27, 2014 02:42 PM (g1DWB)

126 OT - Breaking: US Appeals Court Upholds New Texas Abortion Rules

Posted by: Wendy Davis' Tears at March 27, 2014 02:43 PM (kFxpe)

127 Biggest news today was the new poll that shows VA Senator Mark Warner crushing his GOP challenger Ed Gillespie by double digits. This is happening while all sorts of other Dem incumbents are in the fight of their lives, and shows Virginia is now a solid blue state. Looking realistically at the electoral map, it's almost impossible for a Republican to win the Presidency. And with Hillary being so well liked nationally, whoever we put up is just a sacrificial lamb.

Posted by: Gyaos at March 27, 2014 02:43 PM (yWFG6)

128 Class One: Every man for himself!

Class Two: What are you people still doing here?

Well, you could spend a couple classes on how you're supposed to "contract" for everything. How you enforce contract disputes was never clear to me. Something about getting a collective to arbitrate, but not a court, that's right out!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 02:43 PM (4QSOR)

129
What the heck is a libertarian economics professor?
Posted by: BurtTC

1. Argues that resources should be free to move towards the greatest need as identified by a free market system.

2. Has campus security tow your car if you park in his space.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 02:43 PM (kdS6q)

130 I got an Associates Degreein it. From the night school run out the back of the local Denny's. Posted by: wooga at March 27, 2014 06:41 PM (GrphI) When did Denny's get scary? I'm sure there was a time where it wasn't the truly horrific experience it has now become. Everyone working in one of those places looks like they just got out of prison.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 27, 2014 02:43 PM (oFCZn)

131 Gyaos? Gamera called. Time for another drubbing he says.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 02:44 PM (rNQTc)

132 A libertarian economist is one who has the audacity to tweet something like this. Those who are least able to afford it are often forced to bear the costs of #regulation http://bit.ly/1eI568RÂ

Posted by: traye at March 27, 2014 02:44 PM (C5axv)

133 I'll admit I've wished I could pepper-spray door-to-door solicitors. We have some in my neighborhood that just won't take "no" for an answer. Here's some examples:

Me: "I can't afford your product and will be filing bankruptcy soon."
- "You can't afford NOT TO take this incredible offer, sir!!"

Me: "I've already said no to at least five of your previous solicitors' so-called limited-time deals."
- "But you haven't heard yet about our LATEST limited-time offer!!"

Me: "If you don't leave my property in five seconds, I'll fill your head so full of lead the DOJ will repurpose it as a cannonball."
- "But this deal practically is WORTH dying for!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2014 02:44 PM (HVI5a)

134 I think Cowen is kind of a big deal around here, I heard about this on local radio news, but I don't know why he is kind of a big deal. I heard the name and said "I've heard of him." If he's libertarian does Instapundit link him a lot or something?

Posted by: blaster at March 27, 2014 02:44 PM (4+AaH)

135 And so it begins.

Posted by: In the opinion of the chair at March 27, 2014 02:44 PM (QupBk)

136 Ah yes, all us evil lawyers deserve to be assaulted.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 06:22 PM (GEICT)

Well, in your case it may be done with bourbon, but yes, in general, the world would be a better place if lawyers lived in fear of assault.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 02:45 PM (QFxY5)

137 Everyone working in one of those places looks like they just got out of prison. You ever watch "Heat"? The short order cook could be a former wheel man from an armed robbery crew.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 02:45 PM (doBIb)

138 We're sure that this was the Tea Party's fault.

Posted by: Barky and The Weasels at March 27, 2014 02:45 PM (iSCdf)

139 Well, in your case it may be done with bourbon, but yes, in general, the world would be a better place if lawyers lived in fear of assault. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 06:45 PM (QFxY5) I would love for someone to try.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 02:46 PM (GEICT)

140 SE PA Moron, Mary Jane Ansell

http://maryjaneansell.com/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 02:46 PM (rNQTc)

141 Finally ate that steak I've been yammering about for days. It was delicious. Spicy Montreal, no side dishes, the way God intended.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 02:46 PM (ZshNr)

142 Me: "If you don't leave my property in five seconds, I'll fill your head so full of lead the DOJ will repurpose it as a cannonball."
- "But this deal practically is WORTH dying for!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2014 06:44 PM (HVI5a)

You (next time): Do you have a witty retort to being smacked in the head with a two by four?

Posted by: flounder at March 27, 2014 02:46 PM (Kkt/i)

143 Posted by: JackStraw at March 27, 2014 06:42 Ahhh, everything is normal.

Posted by: dogfish at March 27, 2014 02:46 PM (nsOJa)

144 Gamera called. Time for another drubbing he says. Gamera is really neat! Gamera is full of meat! We all love you, Gamera! Everyone knows about the MST3K-ish "Total Riff-Off" on the National Geographic Channel in Tuesday, April 1, right? Three of the MST3K guys are going to riff on (what I presume to be) really bad National Geographic Channel shows for three hours.

Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 02:46 PM (roTS7)

145 Citizen's arrest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SoDiZdpqFM

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 27, 2014 02:46 PM (1I48Z)

146 Ah-yup, Gay Fingah is right around Gay Head, but you can't get theyah from heyah.

I never understood the formulation "You can't get there from here."

What? It's in a different dimension? It's been destroyed? How is it possible for two places to exist in Euclidean space and not be navigable?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 02:47 PM (4QSOR)

147 Yeah there's a quote on wiki from 2007 where he basically says that libertarians should embrace growing wealth through growing government, even if that's not desirable.

Posted by: Adam at March 27, 2014 02:47 PM (Aif/5)

148 flounder: they say "oh ha ha sir, you're so funny. Now let me tell you about..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2014 02:47 PM (HVI5a)

149 He mainly cares about having interesting ideas to think about and interesting food to taste.

Like... wieners? Finger sandwiches? Ding Dongs? Muscles? Ho Hos? Jerky?

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2014 02:47 PM (MNq6o)

150 "...Hillary being so well liked nationally..." alrighty then...

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 02:47 PM (g4TxM)

151 Cowen has several books. Great Stagnation was well-reviewed. Average is over was, too. Average is over is about how most people are gonna become useless ZMPs. Zero Marginal Productivity workers -- ie useless people. We'll have robots and AI do most jobs. Average person will have no skills worth paying them to do anything. They'll just live off welfare and watch TV and play video games till they die. And elite at the top, like Cowen, will do lots of interesting things. Average person will not have the ability or interest in doing anything interesting, important, or useful. His coblogger Tabarrok has even more out there ideas. They both are super genius semi-autistic types and have little in common with average people. Both are really interesting. Like hyper-intelligent robots observing humanity. Krugman has attacked Cowen on multiple occasions. Cowen seems to ignore Krugman's mean personal attacks.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2014 02:48 PM (ZPrif)

152 148 flounder: they say "oh ha ha sir, you're so funny. Now let me tell you about..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2014 06:47 PM (HVI5a)

I didn't know that. I can't hear them through the door.

Posted by: flounder at March 27, 2014 02:48 PM (Kkt/i)

153 The suspected gunman who shot and killed a sailor aboard the destroyer Mahan on Monday was not authorized to be on Naval Station Norfolk, Va., the Naval Criminal Investigative Service said in a Thursday news release. Jeffery Tyrone Savage, 35,an ex-convict whoÂ’d served time for voluntary manslaughter and other offenses, had Â“no reason or authorizationÂ” to be on the base late Monday night, when he shot and killed Master-at-Arms 2nd Class Mark Mayo with a gun heÂ’d wrestled from another sailor, according to NCIS investigators. Mayo, 24, was serving as chief of the guard for the destroyer, and dove in front of the petty officer of the watch after Savage took her weapon. Savage gunned down Mayo before being shot by the shipÂ’s roving sentry. Took "HER" Weapon? Shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 02:49 PM (t3UFN)

154 Late again. Shit.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 02:49 PM (QhlpW)

155 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 06:41 PM (rNQTc) I'll not fall for your cleverly-disguised Bea Arthur nude portrait link.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 02:49 PM (veQX1)

156 Europeans wear wedding rings on the right hand IIRC even the straight ones

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 02:50 PM (zOTsN)

157 >>I never understood the formulation "You can't get there from here." Old Maine gag. Never actually had a Mainer say that to me when I was living there but I did have one guy use another old Maine saying "Well, if I was agoin theya I wouldn't leave from heah."

Posted by: JackStraw at March 27, 2014 02:50 PM (g1DWB)

158 If Bryan Caplan gets mugged I'm going to start suspecting a conspiracy.

Posted by: kartoffel at March 27, 2014 02:50 PM (sWwJZ)

159 151 -

I think you've used up your supply of the word "interesting" for the month.

Luckily for you, April First is coming right up.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 02:50 PM (BeSEI)

160 flounder: right, not a bad idea. Just that it gets hot in the summertime here in SoCal and it's nice to be able to leave the door open to get some air in the house. (We have a locking steel screen door as well.)

Frustrating that leaving the door open like that here means "fresh meat" to these annoyances.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2014 02:50 PM (HVI5a)

161 144 Everyone knows about the MST3K-ish "Total Riff-Off" on the National Geographic Channel in Tuesday, April 1, right? Three of the MST3K guys are going to riff on (what I presume to be) really bad National Geographic Channel shows for three hours. ------------------ From their site: "On April 1st, the guys from "Mystery Science Theater 3000" and RiffTrax are adding their very own commentary to classic National Geographic Channel programs, featuring excerpts from "Honey Badgers," "Unlikely Animal Friends," "Man v. Monster," "Swamp Men," "Alpha Dogs," and more!" They had me at Honey Badger.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at March 27, 2014 02:50 PM (QBm1P)

162 The economics field is filled with pervs, by the way. Not saying anything one way or the other in this particular case, but yeah. Econ = perv-alanche. Harsh, dude.

Posted by: Psychology at March 27, 2014 02:51 PM (QupBk)

163 A U.N. panel has found serious shortcomings in the United StatesÂ’ civil rights record, with experts citing Thursday a lack of adequate oversight and transparency in national security programs dealing with everything from electronic surveillance to targeted drone killings and secret detentions. The report by the U.N. Human Rights Committee, a panel of 18 independent experts from different countries, found general improvement in some areas Â— such as the handling of rights of indigenous peoples and the Guantanamo Bay prisoners Â— since the last such review in 2006. And while the panelÂ’s experts made clear they generally view the U.S. as a promoter of human rights, they also found major concerns while examining compliance with the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. Ah go fuck yourselves. If it were not for the US of A , none of you SOBs would have any rights at all and you'd all be speaking german

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 02:51 PM (t3UFN)

164 Late again. Shit. Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 06:49 PM (QhlpW) Naw, not late. Fashionable. "Late" is posting something pithy, witty, and amazingly observant on a thread which has just been rendered redundant by a new one.

Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 02:51 PM (roTS7)

165 Nevergiveup that incident sounds so bad on so many levels.

A. How did he get past the base gates? Some post 9/11 security.
B. So only the CPO at the gangway had a weapon?
C. Roving sentry in case Iranian frogmen?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 02:51 PM (rNQTc)

166 162 The economics field is filled with pervs, by the way. Not saying anything one way or the other in this particular case, but yeah. Econ = perv-alanche. I can see it for Krugman but not Glen Reynolds.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 02:51 PM (doBIb)

167 156 -

Euro men also kiss each other a lot. Even the "straight" ones.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2014 02:52 PM (BeSEI)

168 Instapundit is a law prof.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2014 02:52 PM (ZPrif)

169 Female police,guards tend to get there weapons taken away more than their male counterparts,no?

Posted by: steevy at March 27, 2014 02:52 PM (zqvg6)

170 My bad.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 02:52 PM (doBIb)

171 You know why black women are so poor and unhappy? That God stuff. A black woman scholar explains: http://tinyurl.com/prqkcdy

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2014 02:52 PM (Mogjf)

172 Took "HER" Weapon? Shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 06:49 PM (t3UFN)

How the fuck did that happen?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 02:52 PM (QFxY5)

173 What most of the Open Border Libertarians don't realize... is that open borders only work if the other country is equally free and also has Free Markets. If not? They only put YOUR citizens at a disadvantage... The goal of (small l) libertarians like me is to create a good country HERE... to make OUR citizens as free as possible... to be an EXAMPLE of Freedom, and how prosperous it can be... Other countries citizens will have to fix their own countries... because we certainly cannot support everyone HERE.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 02:53 PM (84gbM)

174 How the fuck did that happen? I'm guessing Savage was much stronger and faster than she was.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 02:53 PM (doBIb)

175 Breaking News: A George Mason University law professor has been arraigned on charges of resisting citizens arrest, NBC News Reports. John Pendleton, who initially made the arrest of Professor Tyler Cowan for computer hacking and sexual assault, was released from custody after he produced a valid Citizens Arrest Warrant. Due to an oversight, the original, signed warrant was not produced to police at the time Pendelton subdued Cowan with pepper spray. Cowan was arrested after authorities determined Pendleton's execution of a copy of the warrant was acceptable under state law. Cowan is being held in Pendleton's basement until trial. Under house rules, Pendleton will serve as the jury. MSNBC will cover the trial, is expected to contain additional charges of racism.

Posted by: NBC News at March 27, 2014 02:53 PM (Zx2Zj)

176 A. How did he get past the base gates? Some post 9/11 security. B. So only the CPO at the gangway had a weapon? C. Roving sentry in case Iranian frogmen? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 06:51 PM (rNQTc) How he got past the front gate and the dock gate is a good question of sure. No near the Ships and Boats there are multiple people who are armed. The roving Sentry on the Ship is just that. There are also armed guards at the gangways.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 02:53 PM (t3UFN)

177 Euro men also kiss each other a lot. Even the "straight" ones.
Posted by: BurtTC

And they carry European handbags.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2014 02:54 PM (MNq6o)

178 SE PA Moron, Mary Jane Ansell

http://maryjaneansell.com/

Beautiful girls, beautiful work.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 27, 2014 02:54 PM (0AKks)

179 How does the prof feed about concealed carry? If I were he -- I'd get armed. I have to admit I burst out laughing when I read "citizen arrest."

Posted by: Pug-De-Da! at March 27, 2014 02:54 PM (vFh9Q)

180
Ok so I take the kids to the movie today since its spring break, and they start playing the wrong movie after showing previews for older movies which pissed me off -cause inappropriate- anyway, before all the parents started the uproar they start playing "Noah"... oh man, is that gonna be a bad movie....it basically starts out with Transformer beasts from teh devil. Not kidding...that thing is gonna win the Razzies easy and I only saw 2 minutes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2014 02:54 PM (0Kobm)

181 Mayo, 24, was serving as chief of the guard for the destroyer, and dove in front of the petty officer of the watch after Savage took her weapon. Savage gunned down Mayo before being shot by the shipÂ’s roving sentry. Took "HER" Weapon? Shit Posted by: Nevergiveup that sucks. Is the felon gunman dead? Why was he there? initial reports said he had the proper ID to deliver to the base. Did he lie to get the ID? did someone giving out the IDs not do their job properly and check him out? they said he was acting weird. What was he doing? What was he up to? Was he stealing? What was in his truck? Was he fixing to blow up a truck bomb?

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 02:54 PM (zOTsN)

182 How the fuck did that happen? With authority I'm betting, and a cross to the jaw.

Posted by: toby928© at March 27, 2014 02:54 PM (QupBk)

183 Frustrating that leaving the door open like that here means "fresh meat" to these annoyances.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 27, 2014 06:50 PM (HVI5a)

Typically, once you ask them to leave, they are trespassing if they refuse. At which point, feel free to call the cops to have them forcibly removed. I have no compunction about being an ass to people that believe they have a right to my time to annoy me simply because I have a door. I start polite but quickly turn nasty if they don't get the idea.

The religious are the only ones that get a break.

Posted by: flounder at March 27, 2014 02:55 PM (Kkt/i)

184 Took "HER" Weapon? Shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Yes. HERS. She's probably not required to do even a single pull up.

Posted by: Dang at March 27, 2014 02:55 PM (MNq6o)

185 "Well, if I was agoin theya I wouldn't leave from heah." Posted by: JackStraw at March 27, 2014 06:50 PM (g1DWB) **** Mike Cross "Directions" (skip to about the 1:15 mark for the song) http://tinyurl.com/pfms6df

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 02:55 PM (g4TxM)

186 "The economics field is filled with pervs, by the way. Not saying anything one way or the other in this particular case, but yeah. Econ = perv-alanche." Interesting, because the only Econ PhD I know was a total creepy perv guy.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 02:55 PM (veQX1)

187 Hey, Burn The Witch! Here's that pic we were talking about. http://tinypic.com/r/212ip0j/8

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 02:56 PM (GEICT)

188 that sucks. Is the felon gunman dead? Why was he there? initial reports said he had the proper ID to deliver to the base. Did he lie to get the ID? did someone giving out the IDs not do their job properly and check him out? they said he was acting weird. What was he doing? What was he up to? Was he stealing? What was in his truck? Was he fixing to blow up a truck bomb? Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 06:54 PM (zOTsN) Apparently he had a job with a trucking company who did business on base and ID from that company, but he had no business at Norfolk Naval Station that night. He should NOT have been granted access. But how the fuck is the Military doing business with a company that hires Felons?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 02:56 PM (t3UFN)

189 >>And while the panelÂ’s experts made clear they generally view the U.S. as a promoter of human rights, they also found major concerns while examining compliance with the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

Ah, yes, because when one survey the various countries around the world, the U.S. is certainly right up there as one of the worst when it comes to civil rights.
/sarc

Also, is the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights we've signed on to?

Posted by: NSA at March 27, 2014 02:56 PM (udjuE)

190 Well I for one, am glad he used pepper spray instead of salt spray, transfat spray, or 32 oz soda spray!!!

Posted by: Mayor Bloomberg at March 27, 2014 02:56 PM (qoKTg)

191 >>>> I never understood the formulation "You can't get there from here." What? It's in a different dimension? It's been destroyed? How is it possible for two places to exist in Euclidean space and not be navigable? Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2014 06:47 PM (4QSOR) Haven' t you ever heard of Quantum Mechanics?

Posted by: bergerbilder at March 27, 2014 02:56 PM (8MjqI)

192 Obviously pepper spray is the problem and not the nut job spraying it. PEPPER SPRAY CONTROL!

Posted by: Seems legit at March 27, 2014 02:56 PM (A98Xu)

193 Somehow, we will find a way to blame the Koch Brothers for this.

Posted by: The Media at March 27, 2014 02:57 PM (PsTIT)

194 I like MarginalRevolution. It's an interesting read. Annoying at times, but interesting.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2014 02:57 PM (ZPrif)

195 What most of the Open Border Libertarians don't realize... is that open borders only work if the other country is equally free and also has Free Markets. Personally, I'm a Reciprocity libertarian . . . free markets for your, if your markets are free for me. You put tariffs on, I put tariffs on. You play nice, I play nice. You play dirty, I play dirty. It's stuff like this that gets me wondering if I'm not actually a Hayekian Whig instead of a "true" libertarian . . .

Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 02:57 PM (roTS7)

196 188 Hey, Burn The Witch! Here's that pic we were talking about. http://tinypic.com/r/212ip0j/8 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 06:56 PM (GEICT) The Stepstool of Power! So, it has been found?

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 02:57 PM (doBIb)

197 The roving Sentry

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 06:53 PM (t3UFN)

That's smart. And in this case may have saved some lives.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 27, 2014 02:57 PM (QFxY5)

198 But how the fuck is the Military doing business with a company that hires Felons?

You mean companies other than Congress, right?

Posted by: HR Go Cyclones :) at March 27, 2014 02:58 PM (hO8IJ)

199 It's stuff like this that gets me wondering if I'm not actually a Hayekian Whig instead of a "true" libertarian . . . Come to the Darkside. We have Royalty.

Posted by: Dr Johnson, Tory at March 27, 2014 02:58 PM (QupBk)

200 And elite at the top, like Cowen, will do lots of interesting things. Like reading comic books to college students, I suppose.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 27, 2014 02:58 PM (BhEhL)

201 And while the panelÂ’s experts made clear they generally view the U.S. as a promoter of human rights, they also found major concerns while examining compliance with the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

Ah go fuck yourselves. If it were not for the US of A , none of you SOBs would have any rights at all and you'd all be speaking german.

While I would never agree to UN oversight over the US operations, I totally agree the US needs to clean up its act. Baracka is droning people related to people selected as a target by a secret method with no oversight and no arbitration process. You can't even see the list. I'm not thrilled with the NSA spying on its oversight committee and disappearing documents. I'm angry with the IRS for being a political weapon. I'm beyond angry with how vulnerable to fraud our vote process is, and how much the Dems fight making it cleaner.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 02:58 PM (A0glY)

202 Mayo, 24, was serving as chief of the guard for the destroyer, and dove in front of the petty officer of the watch after Savage took her weapon. Savage gunned down Mayo before being shot by the shipÂ’s roving sentry. Took "HER" Weapon? Shit Posted by: Nevergiveup Hmmm..... Command Duty Officer? yep.... Officer of the Deck? yes... Petty Officer of the watch? uh huh... Security Rover? yeppers... What the hell is a 'chief of the guard'? That's a new one on me...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 02:59 PM (84gbM)

203 Come to the Darkside. We have Royalty. Posted by: Dr Johnson, Tory at March 27, 2014 06:58 PM (QupBk) I have the Kansas City Royals. That's bad enough, thanks.

Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 02:59 PM (roTS7)

204 "A U.N. panel has found serious shortcomings in the United StatesÂ’ civil rights record"

Ah, the UN Human Rights Committee.

Where the USA is expected to be sanctimoniously lectured by "experts" from such places as Argentina, Egypt and South Africa. Beacons of objective law and liberty, I'm sure we can all agree.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 02:59 PM (noWW6)

205 I don't always sexually harass my students via the internet, but when I do, I prefer to be pepper sprayed during lecture.

Posted by: Prof. Cowen at March 27, 2014 03:00 PM (oJUxt)

206 "Hey, Burn The Witch! Here's that pic we were talking about." Nice! But why isn't she wearing stompy boots?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 03:00 PM (veQX1)

207 Apparently he had a job with a trucking company who did business on base and ID from that company, but he had no business at Norfolk Naval Station that night. He should NOT have been granted access. But how the fuck is the Military doing business with a company that hires Felons? Posted by: Nevergiveup sounds like he was looking to steal some stuff and she stopped him please tell me he is dead

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 03:00 PM (zOTsN)

208 Virginia's politics are odd. But I think that it is a robins egg blue right now, but it will be as indigo as Maryland in the not too far off future. The constituencies just don't add up in our favor. Northern Virginia has the most population and it is growing, and most of that is from the Federal slosh of trillions of dollars coming through here. Its about 70% Portlandia, here, except for people here have kids, so occasionally they will pull back from the extreme Leftish brink. The Portlandians vote like the religious blacks in the state, but they would never think of letting their kids go to the places where "those people" are. And then there are some leftover Dixiecrats in the more farflung parts of the state that never brought themselves to vote Republican. Facing that is a strong military retiree community around Norfolk but they like John McCain a lot. There is a strong Tea Party element, but it is more vigorous than it is numerous. And there really is a splitter war going on here. I still say that Cuccinelli could have won if the Republicans hadn't knifed him in the back - but he would have been the last Republican governor of Virginia. Now that's McDonnell.

Posted by: blaster at March 27, 2014 03:00 PM (4+AaH)

209 What the hell is a 'chief of the guard'? That's a new one on me... Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 06:59 PM (84gbM) When there are multiple security officers, someone has to be in charge. Unless you want to put the Dental Officer in charge?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:00 PM (t3UFN)

210

>>Ah go fuck yourselves. If it were not for the US of A , none of you SOBs would have any rights at all and you'd all be speaking german

.Or Japanese.

Posted by: Tojo at March 27, 2014 03:01 PM (0DC/m)

211 Nice! But why isn't she wearing stompy boots? Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 07:00 PM (veQX1) *shrug* That was asked multiple times.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 27, 2014 03:01 PM (GEICT)

212 please tell me he is dead Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 07:00 PM (zOTsN) Yup the 'Roving" Sentry on the Mahon shot him dead

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:01 PM (t3UFN)

213 I am a regular reader of Tyler Cowen's Ethnic Dining Guide. So, my first thought was that maybe he gave someone a bad review for not using enough spice.

Posted by: rtw at March 27, 2014 03:02 PM (YVtDq)

214 So what happened to the OOD?

thunderb I think the perp has assumed room temperature. Said perp not a smart tool, probably was hoping to get aboard to steal a gun or maybe go *pow pow* and launch a missile.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 03:02 PM (rNQTc)

215 213 please tell me he is dead Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 07:00 PM (zOTsN) Yup the 'Roving" Sentry on the Mahon shot him dead Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 07:01 PM (t3UFN) I read he used an M4 to do it.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:02 PM (doBIb)

216 well God bless her and the guy who killed him.

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 03:02 PM (zOTsN)

217

>>What the hell is a 'chief of the guard'? That's a new one on me...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 06:59 PM (84gbM)

When there are multiple security officers, someone has to be in charge. Unless you want to put the Dental Officer in charge?

.Petty Officer of the Watch (POOW) is what we used to call them.

Posted by: Retired Chief Petty Officer at March 27, 2014 03:03 PM (0DC/m)

218 It's stuff like this that gets me wondering if I'm not actually a Hayekian Whig instead of a "true" libertarian . . . Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 06:57 PM (roTS7) Yeah... I used to call myself of Constitutional Conservative.... but that got coopted.... Jeffersonian scares people.... But I'm not a full blown Libertarian either... because I know too much about the world... and how it really operates... There is no real free trade, unless you Partner plays by ALL the same rules you do... And even though I do want to be a bit less involved in the world Militarily... I'm not an isolationist... So... its a struggle to politically identify myself in a way people will even begin to understand.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:03 PM (84gbM)

219 Master Chief Technical Sergeant Major of the Guard

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 03:03 PM (veQX1)

220 Haven' t you ever heard of Quantum Mechanics?

Ah, so we're talking about nano-scopic scale. Didn't realize Mainers were such fans of esoteric math.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:04 PM (A0glY)

221 Tyler Cowen is an American economist, academic, and writer. He occupies the Holbert C. Harris Chair of economics as a professor at George Mason University and is co-author, with Alex Tabarrok, of the popular economics blog Marginal Revolution.
Suck it, Tabarrok!

Posted by: sean connery at March 27, 2014 03:04 PM (hn5v5)

222 "may not be a lefty, but he doesn't seem to be motivated by politics. He seems to have been motivated by delusions." I wasn't aware of the difference.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:04 PM (x3YFz)

223 While we're sitting here yammering, did anybody else notice this little tidbit from Obama's speech to 'young people' in Brussels yesterday: "And those ideas eventually inspired a band of colonialists across an ocean, and they wrote them into the founding documents that still guide America today... Band of colonialists?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 03:04 PM (g4TxM)

224 Didn't realize Mainers were such fans of esoteric math. If you only eat half of the damn fine pig at a time, you never run out.

Posted by: Mainer at March 27, 2014 03:05 PM (QupBk)

225 Band of colonialists? All that education and he still can't get shit right.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:05 PM (doBIb)

226 Band of colonialists? Posted by: S. Muldoon surprised he didn't call them occupiers

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 03:05 PM (zOTsN)

227 So... its a struggle to politically identify myself in a way people will even begin to understand.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 07:03 PM (84gbM)

Same here, almost to the letter.

Posted by: flounder at March 27, 2014 03:05 PM (Kkt/i)

228 "Mayo, 24, was serving as chief of the guard for the destroyer, and dove in front of the petty officer of the watch after Savage took her weapon."

Wait, what? This beefy ex-con _wrestled a weapon away from a woman_? With, like, muscle and body mass and testosterone and upper body strength and those other old-fashioned male things?

How the fuck could that ever happen?

Why didn't she just do a quadruple spinning flying ninja voodoo face kick that hurled the guy completely off the deck of the ship?

Cause that's what Scarlett Johanssen heroine types are shown as doing in the teevee and the movies every single goddamn day when they're assaulted by bigger, stronger males.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 03:05 PM (noWW6)

229 Band of colonialists? Oops.

Posted by: TOTUS at March 27, 2014 03:05 PM (QupBk)

230 220 Master Chief Technical Sergeant Major of the Guard Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 07:03 PM (veQX1) you rang?

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:06 PM (x3YFz)

231 Wow, this is whackier than Elvis-Ricin-Karate Instructor story.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 03:06 PM (MsmYG)

232 From Navy Times, Savage apparently breached three layers of security. Including gaining access to the ship before confrontation. There will be heads rolling over this mess.

http://tinyurl.com/kuzn27o

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 03:06 PM (rNQTc)

233 There will be heads rolling over this mess. There damn well should be.

Posted by: toby928© at March 27, 2014 03:07 PM (QupBk)

234 there should be heads rolling with this mess. starting with who vetted the contractor

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 03:07 PM (zOTsN)

235 Master Chief Technical Sergeant Major of the Guard Vegetable, animal,or mineral?

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:07 PM (doBIb)

236 228 So... its a struggle to politically identify myself in a way people will even begin to understand. Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 07:03 PM (84gbM) Same here, almost to the letter. Posted by: flounder at March 27, 2014 07:05 PM (Kkt/i) Everyone refers to me as "that crazy guy." Go with that.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:07 PM (x3YFz)

237 Actually, you get the benefits of free trade even if the other guy won't open his markets. If you want to maximize your country's wealth than tariffs should be zero regardless of what other countries do. They are just hurting themselves with tariffs. The only reason countries do the tit-for-tat, I'll lower my tariffs if you lower yours is because most people don't understand economics. It's basically, I'll stop punching myself in the head if you stop punching yourself in the head.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2014 03:08 PM (ZPrif)

238 235 there should be heads rolling with this mess. starting with who vetted the contractor Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 07:07 PM (zOTsN) A string of contractors going on shooting sprees, eh? Are we going to have Winter Contractor hearings?

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at March 27, 2014 03:08 PM (E8IHS)

239 I suspect 'colonialist' is exactly what he meant to say. World view and all that.

Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 03:08 PM (g4TxM)

240 153 Mayo, 24, was serving as chief of the guard for the destroyer, and dove in front of the petty officer of the watch after Savage took her weapon. Savage gunned down Mayo before being shot by the shipÂ’s roving sentry. Took "HER" Weapon? Shit Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 06:49 PM (t3UFN) Careful. It would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here.

Posted by: Gen. George Casey at March 27, 2014 03:08 PM (sdi6R)

241 When there are multiple security officers, someone has to be in charge. Unless you want to put the Dental Officer in charge? . .Petty Officer of the Watch (POOW) is what we used to call them. Posted by: Retired Chief Petty Officer at March 27, 2014 07:03 PM (0DC/m) Nothing like changing Naval Traditions... for the sake of change..... OK then... Oh... and USN Ret. meself...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:08 PM (84gbM)

242 You bitches aren't taking into account that the bastard was resisting arrest!

Posted by: J. West Pendleton at March 27, 2014 03:08 PM (jTKU5)

243 I'm a bit excited. Just came back from a Whole Foods Market. First time I'd been there. What a really great place. Trader Joe's is a slum compared to Whole Foods.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 03:08 PM (MsmYG)

244 Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 27, 2014 07:04 PM (g4TxM) No matter where TFG was actually born, he is not an American at heart, rather he is stuck on being a subject in a colony!

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 03:08 PM (o3MSL)

245 "From Navy Times, Savage apparently breached three layers of security. Including gaining access to the ship before confrontation. There will be ~~heads rolling~~ deaths by safety briefs over this mess. Fixed.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 03:09 PM (veQX1)

246 231 220 Master Chief Technical Sergeant Major of the Guard Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 07:03 PM (veQX1) The very Model of a Modern Major General???

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:10 PM (84gbM)

247 there should be heads rolling with this mess. starting with who vetted the contractor Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 07:07 PM (zOTsN) A string of contractors going on shooting sprees, eh? Are we going to have Winter Contractor hearings? Posted by: HoboJerky its pretty clear that with all the meta data and NSA etc going on no one is paying attention to who gets security clearances and base access this, plus the MD armory shooting plus Snowden time to go back to basics

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 03:10 PM (zOTsN)

248 Careful. It would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here. Posted by: Gen. George Casey at March 27, 2014 07:08 PM (sdi6R) Dammit, I didn't see that one coming and now I have mt dew all over my shirt.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:10 PM (x3YFz)

249

>>Just came back from a Whole Foods Market. First time I'd been there. What a really great place.

Trader Joe's is a slum compared to Whole Foods.

.I love their bacon.

Posted by: Registered Voter at March 27, 2014 03:10 PM (0DC/m)

250 ♫ Gayfinger, he's the man! The man with the uncut dick.
He loves only boys. Harry Reid's boys. ♬

Posted by: shirley bassey at March 27, 2014 03:11 PM (hn5v5)

251 Band of colonialists? A rag tag band of colonialists in search of lost world named Kobol.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:12 PM (doBIb)

252 Mayo's family, from Hagerstown MD wants answers.

http://tinyurl.com/k2lulcz

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 03:12 PM (rNQTc)

253 Looks like Whole Foods brought the thread to a screeching halt.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 03:12 PM (veQX1)

254 "Noah"... oh man, is that gonna be a bad movie....it basically starts out with Transformer beasts from teh devil. Not kidding...that thing is gonna win the Razzies easy and I only saw 2 minutes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2014 06:54 PM (0Kobm)

--------------------------------------------

Beck did a funny review of "Noah" day before yesterday. The movie does NOT follow Biblical teaching.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 03:13 PM (QhlpW)

255 The very Model of a Modern Major General??? Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 07:10 PM (84gbM) Not sure if you guys keep up on this stuff but Teh Won has destroyed the officer corps. Most of what's left are yes men, lackeys, Islamists and commies. The good NCOs saw it coming a few years back and bailed before the purge.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:13 PM (x3YFz)

256 I suspect 'colonialist' is exactly what he meant to say. World view and all that.

Yup. Land stolen from its rightful owners, etc.

Posted by: HR Go Cyclones :) at March 27, 2014 03:13 PM (hO8IJ)

257 It's basically, I'll stop punching myself in the head if you stop punching yourself in the head. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 27, 2014 07:08 PM (ZPrif) That's one THEORY... but I will note that the US had a stronger economy, with a better more prosperous middle class... before we went on the Free Trade bing a generation ago.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:13 PM (84gbM)

258 Well, I bought only their baked corn bread. $4.99 for each 9 piece package. I think I might really be on to something with this corn bread diet I'm about to embark upon. Will advise..

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 03:13 PM (MsmYG)

259
Just came back from a Whole Foods Market. First time I'd been there. What a really great place.
Posted by: Soothsayer

I shopped there once during a supermarket strike that closed down the major chains.

The free range whatever chicken I bought there was very good, but frankly not really that much better than the poultry available at my, then local, Mexican market that was selling birds for a fraction of the cost.

Vallarta Supermarkets - awesome place.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 27, 2014 03:14 PM (kdS6q)

260 Red meat for dreaded socons: Appeals court upholds Texas abortion restictions, hags fainting all over the place. Majority of Texas' 42 McBortions may close, though they could reopen in other locations later.

Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 27, 2014 03:14 PM (jTKU5)

261 Wendy Davis hardest hit

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 03:15 PM (zOTsN)

262 Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 07:13 PM (x3YFz) Oh trust me.... I keep up a bit.... My son is an ET3 stationed in Guam...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:15 PM (84gbM)

263 "Just came back from a Whole Foods Market. First time I'd been there. What a really great place. Trader Joe's is a slum compared to Whole Foods."

Whole Paycheck?

Yeah, I figure that it's an absolute _steal_ when I can walk out of that place with a cage-free free-range no-hormone organic-macrobiotic fryer chicken (named Carl, with papers) for the low, low price of eleven bucks a pound. Because it's QUALITY MERCHANDISE.

Also, I only very rarely have encountered arrogant aggro from patrons at Joe's.

Whereas half the clientele at Whole Foods are people who, if their favorite item is temporarily out of stock, will start shrieking at some poor shelf stacker who earns in a month what they earn in a day, "Do you know who I am? Do you know who I AM?!!?!?!"

Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 03:15 PM (noWW6)

264 How could this have happened...

Posted by: Wendy Davis' Tears at March 27, 2014 03:16 PM (kFxpe)

265 Was writing someone and typo-ed youtube as 'yourube'. Was laughing at the misspelling, and decided to keep it in.

Posted by: UWP at March 27, 2014 03:16 PM (KAmBO)

266 >>Oh trust me.... I keep up a bit.... My son is an ET3 stationed in Guam.. Tell him not to stand to close to the edge.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 27, 2014 03:16 PM (g1DWB)

267 "Noah"... oh man, is that gonna be a bad movie....it basically starts out with Transformer beasts from teh devil. Not kidding...that thing is gonna win the Razzies easy and I only saw 2 minutes.

I hope it gets shut out completely. People interested in the story of Noah hopefully won't go because the "god" of Noah is a pagan environment god. People who aren't interested in the story of Noah will hopefully say, "Eww, Xtians!"

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:16 PM (9PrpA)

268 The only reason countries do the tit-for-tat, I'll lower my tariffs if you lower yours is because most people don't understand economics. Well, yes. In theory, you are quite correct. In practice, however, trying to keep a domestic market totally open in the face of foreign trade barriers is political suicide. Unless you can spoon-feed real-world economics theory to people, beginning from Head-Start through kindergarten and all the way through primary and secondary school.

Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 03:17 PM (roTS7)

269 Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 07:15 PM (84gbM) I hope you've told him to stay in the center of the island!

Posted by: H Johnson at March 27, 2014 03:17 PM (o3MSL)

270 Oh trust me.... I keep up a bit.... My son is an ET3 stationed in Guam... Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 07:15 PM (84gbM) I'm resisting the tipping over joke. It's almost compulsory.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:17 PM (x3YFz)

271 i don't bother with that organic nonsense. What I do like are things made with 'better' ingredients. For instance, there's crap flour and better flour.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 03:17 PM (MsmYG)

272 Lead ship of the proposed new FFG class - USS Mark Mayo.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 03:17 PM (rNQTc)

273 Oh trust me.... I keep up a bit.... My son is an ET3 stationed in Guam... Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 07:15 PM (84gbM) Oh. Snakes. Guam = a LOT of snakes.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:17 PM (x3YFz)

274 But how the fuck is the Military doing business with a company that hires Felons ---------- My people, do you speak it motherfucker!?!?

Posted by: Atty Gen. Eric Holder at March 27, 2014 03:18 PM (Aif/5)

275 253 EC,

Ogabe ain't importing Jihadi Jim to return the land to Amerinds...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 03:18 PM (TE35l)

276 I hope you've told him to stay in the center of the island! Posted by: H Johnson at March 27, 2014 07:17 PM (o3MSL) No.... but I did teach him how to swim...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:18 PM (84gbM)

277 Last night was the last episode of Psych.

Posted by: Pug-De-Da! at March 27, 2014 03:20 PM (vFh9Q)

278 Wendy Davis hardest hit Posted by: thunderb Oh no no no, just read that she is a national political celebrity due to the fight and her campaign coffers are exploding from all the money coming in.

Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 27, 2014 03:20 PM (jTKU5)

279 Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 07:15 PM (noWW6) TJs has pretty good cheap beer and wine! WF has a better selection but pricy.

Posted by: Hrothgar at March 27, 2014 03:20 PM (o3MSL)

280 "Mayo, 24, was serving as chief of the guard for the destroyer, and dove in front of the petty officer of the watch after Savage took her weapon."

This is why the Israelis still have women in the military, but don't have them in frontline combat units any longer.

There would be cases before that where a strongpoint would be overrun. The relief/rescue force would find the women, all dead, grouped together. With a ring of dead men surrounding them.

The male instinct to protect women is still there. It has consequences.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 03:20 PM (noWW6)

281 Seriously? Then you must have a different caliber of people who shop at your Trader Joes. Here the crossover between it and Whole Foods is 100%. Exact. Same. Annoying. Hipster. Elitists. Plus the employees at Tradet Joes are at least clean most of the time. Our Trader Joes employees unwashed hippies.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 27, 2014 03:21 PM (RZ8pf)

282 Wow, just saw a real time enzappening of a comment. It's like.....seeing a shooting star...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 27, 2014 03:21 PM (ojnk6)

283 For instance, there's crap flour and better flour.

There's a wide range of variability in the quality of steaks too. So to me it's worth paying more if you get a good one. I'm talking about an actual higher quality steak btw, not just "organic".

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:21 PM (4QSOR)

284 Oops I meant employees at whole foods clean. Trader joes unwashed.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 27, 2014 03:22 PM (RZ8pf)

285 Posted by: ManWithNoParty So dish already. Carefully, of course.

Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 27, 2014 03:22 PM (jTKU5)

286 284 Wow, just saw a real time enzappening of a comment. It's like.....seeing a shooting star... Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 27, 2014 07:21 PM (ojnk6) To me, it's like watching a time travel movie where something in the past catches up to the present and stuff just disappears before your eyes.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:23 PM (doBIb)

287 "Lead ship of the proposed new FFG class - USS Mark Mayo."

My standing proposal is that all American ships should be named in memoriam of members of the armed forces who laid down their lives in the service of their country.

With absolutely no exceptions, ever. Especially not for any retired politicians.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 03:23 PM (noWW6)

288 pgis, are you commenting buzzed again?

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 03:23 PM (MsmYG)

289 Wow, just saw a real time enzappening of a comment. It's like.....seeing a shooting starÂ… Did you make a wish? Did it involve Kate Upton?

Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 03:23 PM (roTS7)

290 286 Oops I meant employees at whole foods clean. Trader joes unwashed. Where I am, it's the other way around. TJ clean. WF nasty.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:23 PM (doBIb)

291 All Whole Lotta High Priced Foods employees look suspiciously like trust funders.

Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 27, 2014 03:24 PM (jTKU5)

292 270 In theory, you are quite correct. In practice, however, trying to keep a domestic market totally open in the face of foreign trade barriers is political suicide. Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 07:17 PM (roTS7) In a situation where, say, the U.S. has strict environmental standards and China has none, the solution would be to impose import tariffs that are equivalent to the additional costs that U.S. manufacturers have to bear. In the long run, environmental standards in both countries would tend to converge, with the U.S. relaxing them and China strengthening them. Theoretically, at least.

Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2014 03:24 PM (sdi6R)

293 To me, it's like watching a time travel movie where something in the past catches up to the present and stuff just disappears before your eyes.
So if you go back in time and kill your grandfather before your mom/dad was conceived and he was a troll, the troll comment you just read will disappear before your eyes?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 27, 2014 03:24 PM (hn5v5)

294 100 If we are going to start pepper spraying economists I want former Enron advisor Paul Krugman at the top of the list. Or maybe hose him down with Hers.

Nah - the proper thing to squirt on Krughole is preparation H - then watch him disappear (the man's pretty short, so it's not far to go).

I've presented papers at George Mason (Finance, not Econ). Cowen's one of the good guys - not a political ideologue like KrugFart. A bit flaky, but he does a great job of illustrating econ concepts with pop culture references. And his Marginal Revolution blog is outstanding.

Posted by: RightWingProf at March 27, 2014 03:24 PM (RtR5I)

295 So if you go back in time and kill your grandfather before your mom/dad was conceived and he was a troll, the troll comment you just read will disappear before your eyes? Yup! Did you see Looper?

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:25 PM (doBIb)

296 My standing proposal is that all American ships should be named in memoriam of members of the armed forces who laid down their lives in the service of their country.

I went to BYU, and they had the tradition of naming buildings after deceased LDS leaders. I like your suggestion for the same reason I like BYU's practice. You generally know the reputation of a dead person. A live person's reputation can suddenly become problematic.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:25 PM (4QSOR)

297 Global Warming is coming down in big wet flakes. I hope we get foot upon foot of the stuff, just for fun.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 27, 2014 03:25 PM (vHRtU)

298 Only TJ near me is in Atlanta. Don't know where a WF is around here. I just make do with Target and Wal Mart if I'm feeling brave.

Posted by: Adam at March 27, 2014 03:25 PM (Aif/5)

299 pgis, are you commenting buzzed again? Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 07:23 PM (MsmYG) LOL. It's Ace of Spades and after noon. Silly.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:26 PM (x3YFz)

300 This is why the Israelis still have women in the military, but don't have them in frontline combat units any longer.

There would be cases before that where a strongpoint would be overrun. The relief/rescue force would find the women, all dead, grouped together. With a ring of dead men surrounding them.

The male instinct to protect women is still there. It has consequences.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 07:20 PM (noWW6)

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Yup. Plus, I don't want those hawt Israeli female soldiers to get one scratch on them. They are a photgraphic treasure.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 03:27 PM (QhlpW)

301 Posted by: torquewrench at March 27, 2014 07:23 PM (noWW6) What Politicians do not understand, is that without tradition, and Pride... you do not have a Military.... you have an armed Security Force. When the shit drops in the pot, you are not fighting for the Politicians... you are fighting for your buds... for your unit... for Pride... and because you are upholding a tradition... They are actively destroying the very basis of the US Professional Military.... I saw it start first hand while I was still Active.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:27 PM (84gbM)

302 Target has an awesome "Trail Mix", that is basically a box of chocolates in a bag.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 03:27 PM (ZshNr)

303 Ah, the grandfather troll paradox. Looper? The one with Burt Reynolds as the aging, time-travelling stuntman?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 27, 2014 03:27 PM (hn5v5)

304 With absolutely no exceptions, ever. Especially not for any retired politicians.

Posted by: torquewrench

Underline. Boldface. 900pt font.

Although I have no problem with the 'thematic' names; Enterprise, Liberty, Constitution.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 27, 2014 03:27 PM (Uabwh)

305 No I was multitasking. Watching a stupid tv show while typing. No booze, kid here so I am pretending to be a responsible parent.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 27, 2014 03:28 PM (RZ8pf)

306 Yup. Plus, I don't want those hawt Israeli female soldiers to get one scratch on them. They are a photgraphic treasure. Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 07:27 PM (QhlpW) And trust me.... they LIKE Americans.... at least us Sailors.... Haifa Israel... GREAT Liberty Port....

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:28 PM (84gbM)

307 297 So if you go back in time and kill your grandfather before your mom/dad was conceived and he was a troll, the troll comment you just read will disappear before your eyes? Yup! Did you see Looper? Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 07:25 PM (doBIb) NO. For the last time: no. Trolls have to be burned. Am I the only one who reads the handbook?

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:28 PM (x3YFz)

308 I went to BYU, and they had the tradition of naming buildings after deceased LDS leaders. I like your suggestion for the same reason I like BYU's practice. You generally know the reputation of a dead person. A live person's reputation can suddenly become problematic.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2014 07:25 PM (4QSOR)

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Garbage scows should be named after politicians.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 03:29 PM (QhlpW)

309 Can we go back in time and Pimp Slap Hairy Reeds mother? Or tie her tubes?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 27, 2014 03:29 PM (vHRtU)

310 I must be like the last guy who shops at regular old grocery stores.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 03:29 PM (veQX1)

311 305 Ah, the grandfather troll paradox. Looper? The one with Burt Reynolds as the aging, time-travelling stuntman? Posted by: andycanuck at March 27, 2014 07:27 PM (hn5v5) No, Bruce Willis. There's a part where some guy is captured in the past and is tortured, and you see his future self slowly losing limbs and bits as it happens.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:29 PM (doBIb)

312 Am I the only one who reads the handbook? It's in the Monster Manual, not the Player's Handbook. Poser.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 03:30 PM (veQX1)

313 Haifa Israel... GREAT Liberty Port.... *prays the stepson gets a chance to go there*

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:30 PM (doBIb)

314 Baracka is droning people related to people selected as a target by a secret method with no oversight and no arbitration process.

Here we go round the bend again.
What real evidence is there that any substantial number of didn't need killing irhabists got drone-zapped. And what part of impeachment and not electing em in the 1st place are THE ONLY oversight on the Presidents role as CIC.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:30 PM (DL2i+)

315 its pretty clear that with all the meta data and NSA etc going on no one is paying attention to who gets security clearances and base access this, plus the MD armory shooting plus Snowden time to go back to basics Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 07:10 PM (zOTsN) Yup. Keep it simple, Keep it stupid

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:31 PM (t3UFN)

316 There's a part where some guy is captured in the past and is tortured, and you see his future self slowly losing limbs and bits as it happens.

Frequency had a scene like that. A guy gets his hand destroyed in the past and his present-day self watches in horror as his hand withers and shrinks away.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:32 PM (4QSOR)

317 There's a part where some guy is captured in the past and is tortured, and you see his future self slowly losing limbs and bits as it happens.
I haven't seen it but from the description I remember I had a friend explain it to me in detail. It sounds like a very good movie. I'll have to look around for it.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 27, 2014 03:32 PM (hn5v5)

318 287, 288 It was a comment about the JEF threatening to do Amnesty with his pen and his phone, but......coarser.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 27, 2014 03:32 PM (ojnk6)

319 Would it be out of place for me to mention that I just submitted the application for my C&R license?

And that Israeli military women are made of some of the most beautiful ingredients on the planet.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2014 03:33 PM (si68n)

320 "I must be like the last guy who shops at regular old grocery stores." The War Dept sends me to the Whole Fru Fru store every so often for some silly item. Place gives me the creeps. It's like a tiny Boulder, CO of hipster food items.

Posted by: Meremortal, something's burning.... at March 27, 2014 03:33 PM (jTKU5)

321 312 Can we go back in time and Pimp Slap Hairy Reeds mother? Or tie her tubes? Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 27, 2014 07:29 PM (vHRtU) Hah. So you also caught the bit where Reid called everyone dying from Obama care liars, Koch brother liars, then, despite the fact that it's in the congressional record that he called the people dying of cancer liars, he then came out yesterday, lied and said everyone that accuses him of lying is a liar. You just can't make this up.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:33 PM (x3YFz)

322 Return the USN to WWII naming conventions.

Carriers - Revolutionary War battles or famous Navy ships.
Battleships - states
Cruisers - cities
Submarines - sea life
Destroyers, DDE, and FF - dead Navy or Marine heroes.
Fleet oilers - rivers.
Troop ships - Presidents.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 03:33 PM (rNQTc)

323 320 There's a part where some guy is captured in the past and is tortured, and you see his future self slowly losing limbs and bits as it happens. I haven't seen it but from the description I remember I had a friend explain it to me in detail. It sounds like a very good movie. I'll have to look around for it. There's a neat bit where low level lackeys "close their loop". It means they kill their future self who are sent back in time by the mob operating in the future. It's a way to tie up loose ends.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:34 PM (doBIb)

324 I guess you could say Marty McFly has that begin to happen to him while playing guitar at the prom until his dad picks up his mom.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 27, 2014 03:34 PM (hn5v5)

325 Two Russian cosmonauts and a US astronaut lifted off for a six-month stay with the International Space Station (ISS) on Tuesday, unaffected by political tensions following RussiaÂ’s invasion of Crimea. The Russian Soyuz rocket carrying Alexander Skvortsov, Oleg Artemyev and NASA astronaut Steven Swanson was due to dock with the ISS early Wednesday, only six hours after it was launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. A technical glitch on its approach in orbit caused a two-day delay in their docking. The trio were using a fast-track approach to the ISS completed by only four previous crewed missions. They will now orbit the Earth 34 times instead of the four orbits originally envisaged. US-Russia space cooperation has been unaffected by the political and economic fallout triggered by RussiaÂ’s annexation of UkraineÂ’s Crimean peninsula. NASA astronaut Reid Wiseman, who is due to fly to the ISS in May, said that Â“politics starts to fall by the waysideÂ” when working with Russian space engineers, flight controllers and cosmonauts on a daily basis. Â“WeÂ’re three really good friends climbing into a Soyuz (capsule) to fly into space. All politics aside, thereÂ’s no doubt itÂ’s going to work for us,Â” he added. NASA relies on Russia to deliver astronauts to the station through the Soyuz capsule and to provide the rocket power essential for major station manoeuvres. The Russian segment of the space station depends on NASA solar power and communication satellites, as well as US gyroscopes and flight controllers at the Johnson Space Centre in Houston. The ISS requires tight cooperation between US and Russian flight control centres to keep it adequately supplied and staffed. John Logsdon, professor emeritus of political science and international affairs at George Washington University described the relationship as a Â“mutual dependencyÂ”. Â“ItÂ’s certainly not in our interest to so alienate Russia that we no longer had access to the station,Â” he added. Â“So, I think the by far most likely outcome is kind of encapsulating the station from the broader political currentsÂ”. Yeah? Hum? I remember problems in a Space Odyssey 2010?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:35 PM (t3UFN)

326 And what part of impeachment and not electing em in the 1st place are THE ONLY oversight on the Presidents role as CIC. Posted by: DaveA at March 27, 2014 07:30 PM (DL2i+) Actually.... no.... even the President is not supposed to be able to order the military to perform an Illegal act... ie something covered by the UCMJ.. Can the President order someone, legally, to kill unarmed civilian prisoners??? No, because that would be an illegal order... And that is the question of the drones... are they Legal orders under UCMJ? as they are killing civilians who are not under arms.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:35 PM (84gbM)

327 CR = C&R

Shit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2014 03:35 PM (si68n)

328 And that Israeli military women are made of some of the most beautiful ingredients on the planet. I've been trying to get CBD to repost that Israeli chick who has quite possibly the most perfect pair of cheeks ever to be bisected by a thong, but he keeps ignoring me. Must still be mad at me for making fun of his pizza.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 03:35 PM (veQX1)

329 Can I borrow an ampersand from one of you guys?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2014 03:35 PM (si68n)

330 I must be like the last guy who shops at regular old grocery stores.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 07:29 PM (veQX1)

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Nope. You're not. I can't stand the nose-up-in-the-air snobbery that goes with shopping at "organic" stores. I'll just schlep around the Crest store, thank you very much. At least I know their food doesn't have insect and bird shit on it.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 03:36 PM (QhlpW)

331 My heart says "root for Dayton" but my mind says "Well, Condi is Provost Emeritus or whatever of Stanford" . . . Decisions, decisions . . .

Posted by: filbert at March 27, 2014 03:36 PM (roTS7)

332 Yeah, caught that. And the steadily increasing amount of campaign funds sent to his daughter. And so on. He needs to be sprayed down with HERS feminine douche product. Probably melt him.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 27, 2014 03:36 PM (vHRtU)

333 332 &&& have 3, feeling generous today.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 27, 2014 03:36 PM (ojnk6)

334 Jackie Mason has a university named after him? Who knew?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 27, 2014 03:36 PM (0HooB)

335 282 "This is why the Israelis still have women in the military, but don't have them in frontline combat units any longer. Any firm sources for this? It is lunacy to have women in combat units, but giggle and wiki-licki are not good sources from which to research.

Posted by: razzmataz at March 27, 2014 03:37 PM (u/7ve)

336 I've been trying to get CBD to repost that Israeli chick who has quite possibly the most perfect pair of cheeks ever to be bisected by a thong, but he keeps ignoring me. The one from the Daily Mail? They had the naked IDF squad there too.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:37 PM (doBIb)

337 Professor should be relieved that Pendleton wasn't a member of the Horde - it's much harder to recover from an axe wound than pepper spray.

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 27, 2014 03:38 PM (6H6o8)

338 Just think if someone endowed the Rodney Dangerfield School of Economics.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 03:38 PM (rNQTc)

339 What real evidence is there that any substantial number of didn't need killing irhabists got drone-zapped. And what part of impeachment and not electing em in the 1st place are THE ONLY oversight on the Presidents role as CIC.

I was referring specifically to the kid of al-Awlaki, the terrorist Obama droned. Obama and his people have offered no evidence the kid was a terrorist. They killed him because of who his father was.

I recall how Obama and his people flatly refused to promise not to drone US citizens on US soil. I don't have to wait for Obama to Hellfire someone here in the US to be angry about that one.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:38 PM (4QSOR)

340 306 Although I have no problem with the 'thematic' names; Enterprise, Liberty, Constitution. Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2014 07:27 PM (Uabwh) Or early carriers, which were named after famous battles: Lexington, Saratoga. At the time of Pearl Harbor, battleships were named for states, now nuclear missile submarines are. I find the current scheme of naming carriers after presidents, whether living or dead, to be creepy. It smacks of idolatry. And nothing should be named after a living person, period.

Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2014 03:38 PM (sdi6R)

341 Yeah? Hum? I remember problems in a Space Odyssey 2010? Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 07:35 PM (t3UFN) I have 1 word for the ISS: Why?

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:39 PM (x3YFz)

342 341 Just think if someone endowed the Rodney Dangerfield School of Economics. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 27, 2014 07:38 PM (rNQTc) "I got two boys. I put one of them through college, and the other through a brick wall."

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:39 PM (doBIb)

343 And nothing should be named after a living person, period. Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2014 07:38 PM (sdi6R) I got no problem with renaming heads the obama

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:39 PM (t3UFN)

344 Why are leftists like this woman even considered "comedians"? It's funny to suggest that you wish conservative Christians who support Hobby Lobby and freedom of religion should be killed?! http://tinyurl.com/mckvynf

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2014 03:40 PM (XyM/Y)

345 The one from the Daily Mail? They had the naked IDF squad there too. I dunno. Beach shot. Oil. Glistening. Supple. BRB

Posted by: Burn the Witch at March 27, 2014 03:40 PM (veQX1)

346 340 Professor should be relieved that Pendleton wasn't a member of the Horde - it's much harder to recover from an axe wound than pepper spray. Posted by: kathysaysso at March 27, 2014 07:38 PM (6H6o

Claymore. No fingerprints.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:40 PM (x3YFz)

347 And nothing should be named after a living person, period. Posted by: rickl at March 27, 2014 07:38 PM (sdi6R) Yup..... its Bad Luck.... and us old Salts are a pretty damn superstitious lot...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:40 PM (84gbM)

348

Actually.... no.... even the President is not supposed to be able to order the military to perform an Illegal act... ie something covered by the UCMJ..

Can the President order someone, legally, to kill unarmed civilian prisoners??? No, because that would be an illegal order...

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When I was in the military it was taught that EVERYONE should know what a legal vs. illegal order is. Not just officers and NCOs, but every swingin' dick soldier.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 03:40 PM (QhlpW)

349 I took a Cronkite and clogged the Obama once...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 27, 2014 03:40 PM (vHRtU)

350 Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 07:40 PM (QhlpW) Yup.... but now Legality is not up to the individual and his conscience.... now Lawyers are constantly involved in after action reports and such...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:42 PM (84gbM)

351 If one were to Google "Israeli military thong", one might not be seen back here for quite some time.

I mean, if one were to be so inclined.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2014 03:42 PM (si68n)

352 347 FenlonSpoke,

B/c when she threatens me it's art....

Were I to reciprocate it'd be a felony.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 03:43 PM (TE35l)

353 I dunno. Beach shot. Oil. Glistening. Supple. Ok, now I have to find it again.

Posted by: EC at March 27, 2014 03:43 PM (doBIb)

354 many many Israeli men meet their future wives in the Military

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2014 03:44 PM (t3UFN)

355 Who can name all the musical instruments used in Aerosmith's Sweet Emotion?

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 03:44 PM (MsmYG)

356 Thanks for the ampersands.
Googled something, and got distracted.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 27, 2014 03:44 PM (si68n)

357 The thing that bothers me the most about the drone strikes is the hypocrisy of designating all military age males as combatants. And the silence or not quite outright endorsement by the media.

Posted by: Adam at March 27, 2014 03:44 PM (Aif/5)

358 >>>I must be like the last guy who shops at regular old grocery stores.<<<

Whole foods may taste better with your fancy organic insect bits and feces, but I prefer being able to read the hormone and pesticide contents on the labels of my lab grown food with my third eye.

Posted by: Fritz at March 27, 2014 03:45 PM (oJUxt)

359 Yup.... but now Legality is not up to the individual and his conscience.... now Lawyers are constantly involved in after action reports and such...

This seems like a step backward to me.

A warfighter on the battlefield should be the one deciding "no, I will not kill that unarmed man." If a person is trained to let someone else to think about that after the fact, it's too easy to start psychologically deferring to another person for your morality.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:45 PM (4QSOR)

360 I took a Cronkite and clogged the Obama once...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American

Oh, I know what to do. You take a Fonda and ram in it there real good. Then you Woodrow it up and down. If it clears, you're done. If not you're going to have to go get an FDR.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 27, 2014 03:45 PM (Uabwh)

361 The thing that bothers me the most about the drone strikes is the hypocrisy of designating all military age males as combatants.

And the silence or not quite outright endorsement by the media.

Posted by: Adam at March 27, 2014 07:44 PM (Aif/5)

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Not only bothers me but scares me.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 03:46 PM (QhlpW)

362 Whole foods may taste better with your fancy organic insect bits and feces, but I prefer being able to read the hormone and pesticide contents on the labels of my lab grown food with my third eye. *wipes Guinness off screen*

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 27, 2014 03:46 PM (0HooB)

363 I must be like the last guy who shops at regular old grocery stores.

Be glad you do. The smell of smug is offensive. And so is the 50%+ premium in prices.

Posted by: phreshone at March 27, 2014 03:47 PM (kFxpe)

364 Damn, looks like the elect-Hillary 2016 machine has revved up.

http://tinyurl.com/ph7qukv

Posted by: B at March 27, 2014 03:47 PM (6iEQd)

365 Any firm sources for this?
How about the debate TV show I saw 30 years ago about allowing women into combat roles in the Canadian Armed Forces?

The study found the women couldn't pull their weight, literally, so the men in the squad/platoon had to do double duty carrying the heavy weapons and ammo; that the men became overly-protective of the women to the point of ignoring the mission to defend the women (although I hadn't read the part torquewrench cited); so the study concluded that putting women into nontraditional roles (like mechanics) saving men for more combat-related postings was the best use of personnel resources. You can probably find the full details Binging around for "women in combat roles" +Israel or the like.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 27, 2014 03:48 PM (hn5v5)

366 Re: The "thinking cap" on the sidebar. Yeah, at first it will be voluntary. At first... Can't wait until some college straps that thing to an undiagnosed schizophrenic or psychotic. Or someone slips a couple of extra diodes into the circuit... Good times, good times.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 27, 2014 03:48 PM (qyfb5)

367 Camp followers die in wartime. Sometimes by mistake, sometimes by necessity that hasn't been publicized.

Achmed (recruited) Smith is mopeding with a boom jacket towards Uncle Sams finest elementary school you have 5 seconds to pull the Reaper trigger. Is he a US citizen isn't really important.

And yes Obama sucks and someone should have done a much better job of explaining all this.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:49 PM (DL2i+)

368 Were I younger man, and had I not lost half my hearing in our military, I would have joined the IDF a few years ago. I'm not Jewish but those folks are fighting for something and plus I'll do anything that pisses off left.

Posted by: traye at March 27, 2014 03:49 PM (C5axv)

369 I took a Cronkite and clogged the Obama once...
I hate it when I get a rampaging case of the Rathers too.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at March 27, 2014 03:49 PM (hn5v5)

370 A warfighter on the battlefield should be the one deciding "no, I will not kill that unarmed man." If a person is trained to let someone else to think about that after the fact, it's too easy to start psychologically deferring to another person for your morality.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2014 07:45 PM (4QSOR)

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When the military merges with pop culture. Not good. No, sir. Not good at all.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 03:50 PM (QhlpW)

371 If anybody is looking for a tactical flash light for every day carry. I recommend this. This is a very bright light. Fits in your pocket. http://tinyurl.com/lj3ahtp WindFire CREE XML-T6 U2 LED 1800 Lumens ZOOMABLE 5 Modes Flashlight Torch Lamp Mini 18650 Flashlight Torch

Posted by: Tmitsss at March 27, 2014 03:51 PM (Pa9vP)

372 Think off all the poor fetuses that will be born.

Posted by: Wendy Davis' Tears at March 27, 2014 03:51 PM (kFxpe)

373 372 I saw Rampaging Rathers open for Rush at the Fox in 89.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 27, 2014 03:51 PM (ojnk6)

374 364 The thing that bothers me the most about the drone strikes is the hypocrisy of designating all military age males as combatants. And the silence or not quite outright endorsement by the media. Posted by: Adam at March 27, 2014 07:44 PM (Aif/5) ----------------------------------------------------- Not only bothers me but scares me. Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 07:46 PM (QhlpW) Especially when by US law.... all able bodied Men between certain ages are STILL part of the Militia...

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:51 PM (84gbM)

375 Were I younger man, and had I not lost half my hearing in our military, I would have joined the IDF a few years ago. I'm not Jewish but those folks are fighting for something and plus I'll do anything that pisses off left.

Posted by: traye at March 27, 2014 07:49 PM (C5axv)

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I would too. And I'm not Jewish either.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 03:51 PM (QhlpW)

376 re: the droning of the kid he was a teenager. I haven't heard that they knew who he was until after they droned him. He wasn't a combatant, he was collateral damage. That's the reason for the Laws of Armed Conflict that require combatants to wear uniforms. To limit collateral damage. Terrorists don't wear uniforms. They also use Red Crescent ambulances, hide in religious buildings and schools, and surround themselves with family and children the kids was not the target, he was not a combatant, and if anyone is to blame its his father

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 03:54 PM (zOTsN)

377 But why-in-the-hell don't they want to spend their own dime to do-the-deed? No big deal? Then spend your own dollars to kill.

If it's really your body and your choice, why do you need some old people you've never met in a city you've never been to approve it?

Posted by: HR Go Cyclones :) at March 27, 2014 03:55 PM (hO8IJ)

378 Posted by: HR Go Cyclones

at March 27, 2014 07:55 PM (hO8IJ) More so... if its your body, and your choice, then why do you expect for someone else to PAY for it?

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2014 03:58 PM (84gbM)

379 Posted by: andycanuck at March 27, 2014 07:48 PM (hn5v5) 13 years. Well. Actually 275 years of constant warfare. But the last 13 have pushed the limits of even the most hardened, in-shape stud warriors that this nation can create. And we're really really good at making warriors. But 300 pounds of kit, humping for days in the hindu kush, weeks in the desert, multiple deployments, years at sea, failed marriages. It's not just the vehicles aircraft and helicopters that are torn up at this point. We need a rest. Thorwing safety briefings at me, making me wear a fucking reflective belt, telling me I can't pray and deciding women need to be in combat... We're going to have a goddam problem here.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 03:59 PM (x3YFz)

380 he was a teenager. I haven't heard that they knew who he was until after they droned him. He wasn't a combatant, he was collateral damage. That's the reason for the Laws of Armed Conflict that require combatants to wear uniforms. To limit collateral damage. Terrorists don't wear uniforms. They also use Red Crescent ambulances, hide in religious buildings and schools, and surround themselves with family and children

the kids was not the target, he was not a combatant, and if anyone is to blame its his father

I don't think you know the story. They weren't killed in the same strike. They were killed two weeks apart. The kid was the target of the second strike. When asked about the kid being targeted, Obama said the kid should have picked a better father.

It wasn't a mistake, and it wasn't collateral. They have made no case for killing the kid other than who his father was. They have presented no evidence the kid needed that sort of extraordinary killing.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 03:59 PM (4QSOR)

381 This is O/T.

It's time for "Hell's Kitchen", or as I prefer to call it "Gordon Ramsey's Hostile Work Environment."

They are contestants. If they were employees, he would lose everything.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 27, 2014 04:01 PM (V70Uh)

382 380 ThunderB,

My issue is with the assholish hypocritical silence of the left....

Their position is the GOP can't have power or everything we do is "immoral" even when it is precisely what they do.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:01 PM (TE35l)

383 They were killed two weeks apart. ------- That was my understanding as well. And he missed being a designated enemy combatant by a year.

Posted by: Adam at March 27, 2014 04:02 PM (Aif/5)

384 384 Bonhomme,

Well Giggles wears the Mom Jeans in this family...

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:02 PM (TE35l)

385 I have a simple test for a person's morality. If they believe that the progressive income tax is neither unjust, unequitable, nor immoral, they have no business teaching me or anyone else about morals.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 27, 2014 04:03 PM (V70Uh)

386 Obama said the kid should have picked a better father.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2014 07:59 PM (4QSOR)
You can pick your father and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your father's nose.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 27, 2014 04:03 PM (1I48Z)

387 The Play Everything station is on again, waiting for NCAA updates. Night Moves.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 04:03 PM (ZshNr)

388 Why are you people talking instead of watching the Wisconsin game!

Posted by: grammie winger at March 27, 2014 04:04 PM (oMKp3)

389 wasn't bin laden in his mid 50's?

Posted by: willow at March 27, 2014 04:05 PM (nqBYe)

390 Obama said the kid should have picked a better father.

Isn't this really the story of Obama.

They have made no case for killing the kid other than who his father was. They have presented no evidence the kid needed that sort of extraordinary killing.

They don't really need to, may not want to and once TFG has spoken none may dare admit mistake. Meanwhile this is 1 zap out of how many hundreds that should be thousands?

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 27, 2014 04:05 PM (DL2i+)

391 Pope Francis is not a friend to Americans or the Constitution.

Posted by: Soona at March 27, 2014 04:05 PM (QhlpW)

392 They are contestants. If they were employees, he would lose everything. I have visions of a liver with a nice chianti. Ssup, ssup, ssup. On TV.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 27, 2014 04:05 PM (0HooB)

393 Just got this email from Obama ------- PASS THIS NOTE ALONG TO A FRIEND ----- Hey -- The deadline to get covered is Monday, March 31st. You should look into whether you qualify for financial assistance to get health insurance. Nearly six in 10 uninsured Americans can get coverage for less than $100 a month. This calculator will help you see how much you can save -- it might surprise you: http://my.barackobama.com/ACA-Calculator Good Luck!

Posted by: Lauren at March 27, 2014 04:06 PM (hFL/3)

394 Feel free to post running score updates, I'm away from TV for at least the first half, and this radio station sucks reindeer snacks.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 27, 2014 04:06 PM (ZshNr)

395 nood

Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 27, 2014 04:06 PM (MsmYG)

396 I got a bad feeling about my Badgers tonight, I just don't think they have the defense to shut down Baylor.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 27, 2014 04:06 PM (IV4od)

397 396 Soona,

Nor the non Communist Xian faith....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:07 PM (TE35l)

398 Posted by: bonhomme at March 27, 2014 07:59 PM (4QSOR) At least he didn't get assraped by a foot of steel at the hands of his fellow goatfuckers.

Posted by: Zombie Quadafy at March 27, 2014 04:07 PM (G6qzS)

399 how i view the al alwalki thing.

droned, alright,
kid droned, because he picked the wrong father?

as if he could choose.
anyway a secret court for an american citizen while these same pricks were demanding Foreign Terrorists be given civil courts in the United States while saying they could drone Americans without Trial?

that's my fkn deal.
fk them.

Posted by: willow at March 27, 2014 04:08 PM (nqBYe)

400 new post?

o sure.

Posted by: willow at March 27, 2014 04:09 PM (nqBYe)

401 405 willow,

I'm not overly fond of African Commies....

Wonder if I ever get the joystick?

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:10 PM (TE35l)

402 Wendy Davis hardest hit - Ahhhhhhhhhh. My happy place.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2014 04:10 PM (Mogjf)

403 Wendy Davis hardest hit - Ahhhhhhhhhh. My happy place.

Posted by: WalrusRex at March 27, 2014 04:10 PM (Mogjf)

404 Waxing treatments force the ticks to back out.

Oops. crossing my FB thread.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at March 27, 2014 04:10 PM (V70Uh)

405 Anwar al-Awlaki and Egyptian-born Gihan Mohsen Baker had an American son, born on September 13, 1995, in Denver, named Abdulrahman Anwar al-Awlaki.[250] Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was killed at the age of 16 in an American drone strike on October 14, 2011, in Yemen, along with alleged al-Qaeda members two weeks after the death of his father.[251] Nine other people were killed in the same CIA-led attack. Among the dead was a 17-year-old cousin of Abdulrahman.[252] According to U.S. officials the killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was a mistake; the actual target was an Egyptian, Ibrahim al-Banna. Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was reported to have gone out in the desert to search for his missing father but was sitting in a cafe when he was killed.[253] he allegedly was not al Qaeda but was sitting in a cafÃ© with Al Qaeda when he was killed. And he was not the target. If he wasn't Al Qaeda, he was on their farm team.

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 04:11 PM (zOTsN)

406 411 thunderb,

So extra judiciary homicide is ok "now" BUT waterboarding was unconscionable then but kinda ok now so long as National All-Father doesn't know.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:14 PM (TE35l)

407 Okay, I'll try to lay out my problem in a little more detail in a hypothetical. A group of 17-18 year olds are playing soccer in Pakistan near a high level AQ. Drone strike hits, kills 12 people.

Due to the special loop hole in the WH ROE they can claim any military age males were enemy combatants, not collateral damage.

That is bullshit. And it is bullshit that the media reports it in a way that makes him look serious and strong.

Posted by: Adam at March 27, 2014 04:17 PM (Aif/5)

408 413 Adam,

Quite, a is not a....

The newsies yank the football.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:19 PM (TE35l)

409 no way I am defending the WH, but this kid was never designated a combatant. He was sitting at a cafÃ© eating with a legitimate target and other unlawful combatants. That makes him collateral damage

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 04:19 PM (zOTsN)

410 Nasser al-Awlaki is the father of Anwar and grandfather of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki. Al-Awlaki stated he believed his son had been wrongly accused and was not a member of Al Qaeda.[254] After the deaths of his son and grandson, Nasser published a 6 minute audio message condemning the U.S. for the killings.[255] In the audio he described Obama: "I urge the American people to bring the killers to justice. I urge them to expose the hypocrisy of the 2009 Nobel Prize laureate. To some, he may be that. To me and my family, he is nothing more than a child killer."[44][252] He claimed his son was far from any battlefield.[255] After some media outlets interpreted his audio as violent, Nasser al-Awlaki made statements denying that he was endorsing violence.[citation needed] A brother-in-law of Awlaki is Tariq al-Dahab, who leads al-Qaeda insurgents in Yemen. On Thursday, February 16, 2012, the terrorist organization stated he had been killed by agents, though it was speculated by the media that he was killed by his brother in a bloody family-type feud.[256][2 the whole family is Al Qaeda

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 04:21 PM (zOTsN)

411 415 ThunderB,

And seven years ago grounds gor a trip to the ICC.

America would be far better served by wetwork by humint than allowing SCOAMF to play reverse Galaga.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:22 PM (TE35l)

412 According to U.S. officials the killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was a mistake; the actual target was an Egyptian, Ibrahim al-Banna. Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was reported to have gone out in the desert to search for his missing father but was sitting in a cafe when he was killed.[253]

I followed the link in the wiki article you referenced.

Here's the language in the NYTimes article:
"Then, on Oct. 14, a missile apparently intended for an Egyptian Qaeda operative, Ibrahim al-Banna, hit a modest outdoor eating place in Shabwa. The intelligence was bad: Mr. Banna was not there, and among about a dozen men killed was the young Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, who had no connection to terrorism and would never have been deliberately targeted."

I don't believe the official explanation. We don't send missiles into cafes without eyes on. However, I hadn't read this before, so thanks for pointing me to it.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 27, 2014 04:23 PM (IoTdl)

413 this kid was never designated a combatant

Missed it by *that* much.

http://tinyurl.com/8gks5lj

Posted by: Adam at March 27, 2014 04:24 PM (Aif/5)

414 And I don't believe Abdulrahman al-Awlaki had no connection to terrorism. Except his father, grand father and uncle. I am sure there are others, and we just don't know them

Posted by: thunderb at March 27, 2014 04:25 PM (zOTsN)

415 418 bonhomme,

Yup I used to refer to him as Mr. Banana back then...

Again Ogabe altered the methodology and evidentary necessity.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:26 PM (TE35l)

416 421 ThunderB,

Thank God we have a greenlight to kill 64% of Muslims then.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 04:27 PM (TE35l)

417 Please God: New thread. The Christy + Sex combination is just so unacceptable.

Posted by: tangonine at March 27, 2014 05:14 PM (x3YFz)

418 Not unlike the crazy pepper sprayer, a heroin addict trying to steal a power tool from a Detroit suburb Home Depot began stabbing security guards with a dirty syringe needle when they detained him in the parking lot. The guards were saved by guess what, yet another CPL carrying customer who drew on the guy and stopped the altercation. Unfortunately, the guards now get to spend the next six to twelve months being tested for aids, hepatitis c, etc. http://tinyurl.com/l6kxm7g

Posted by: Jen at March 27, 2014 05:17 PM (IdGqX)

419 423 tangonine,

Sounds like a new reality show....

Aversion Therapy with your hostess(?) Lena Dunham

Posted by: sven10077 at March 27, 2014 05:21 PM (TE35l)

420 what, pray tell, is the "gay finger"? Wristwatch. Crisco.

Posted by: model_1066 at March 27, 2014 06:07 PM (afNM6)

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