February 25, 2014

Mike Rowe Responds to Critics of His Walmart Ad
— Ace

He's right to do so, and this is pretty satisfying.

Worth a read.

The backstory is this: Mike Rowe (former host of "Dirty Jobs," and someone who's pro-work and pro-blue collar jobs, a notion disfavored by the tout petite bourgeousie that makes up the left's lesser chattering classes) has done an advertisement which promotes Walmart, but promotes Walmart because they have agreed to do something he believes in, and has argued for: Walmart agreed to purchase $250 billion (with a B) of American manufactured goods over the next ten years.

Note here that Rowe's goal is similar to that of many people, including those on the left, who want some kind of industrial policy (that is, government subsidization) to re-grow American domestic manufacturing. Rather than resort to government, he used (or was recruited by) a private corporation to accomplish the same goal.

Rowe, by the way, has some kind of foundation which he says pursues this basic goal.

So what's the problem? $250 billion is an enormous sum of money. Walmart would like some credit for this. Mike Rowe would like to give Walmart some credit for this, because Mike Rowe believes in buying American, and America working.

Well, the problem is this: Tribalism. The Tribe of the Left has decided that Walmart is evil, and they please their fellow tribesmen by saying Walmart is evil, and so even when Walmart pledges a $250 billion purchase of American domestic manufacturing, the dumb members of the tribe still want it explained to them how that is just awful, and the minor Priests of the tribe therefore undertake to do just that.

Basically they do that by writing snarky and uninformed blog posts about Rowe. Rowe refutes them.

Apparently a writer for CBS couldn't refrain from the Huff-Po level tribalistic attack. The writer noted that Mike Rowe had responded to a critics, “Who gives a crap about your feelings toward Walmart?”

Unfortunately, Rowe writes, “Aimee leaves out the most important part, which for the record was this: ‘For that matter, who gives a crap about MY feelings? Isn’t the business of making things in America an initiative we can all get behind?’”

But the CBS writer didn't include the full quote, preferring instead to truncate it so that it "proved" the claim made by an agitator with a group called "Jobs with Justice." Here's how that article reported it.

The ad might not have sparked such a fierce debate if another spokesman had been tapped. But Rowe, thanks to his seven-year run on "Dirty Jobs," is viewed by many as the voice of the underdog, the overworked and the underpaid. In short, the champion of the types of people working in Walmart jobs. Rowe then threw a bucket of fuel on the fire by writing on his Facebook page in response to one consumer, "Who gives a crap about your feelings toward Walmart?"

"He dismissed people's concerns," said Jobs with Justice spokeswoman Ori Korin. "As someone who has been on the side working people before, we would have hoped he would have thought twice about working for a company that is notorious for not treating its workers well."

The "mainstream media" likes to claim it's a reliable news source. They further contrast themselves with mere blogs, which lard posts with opinion and misrepresented facts mustered to establish a political point rather than something resembling the straight truth.

Oh?

Is that what us bloggers do now, eh?

Here, Cavuto shows an excerpt from the ad, and discusses it with Mike Rowe.

Mike Rowe's sin seems to be that he does more than talk -- he gets results -- and thus embarrasses the left as impotent whiners who have nothing to contribute but carping.

Corrected: I initially misunderstood and wrote that Walmart planned to "invest" in American manufacturing. They're actually pledging to buy $250 billion in American-manufactured products.


Posted by: Ace at 09:26 AM | Comments (335)
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1 Foist.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 25, 2014 09:27 AM (o9Rp5)

2
These people's real problem with him is that he campaigned for Romney.

Participating in a Walmart ad or whatever is just tickey-tackey crap.

He favors the wrong politics.  DESTROY HIM!

Posted by: dan-O at February 25, 2014 09:29 AM (D0bIN)

3 It's a great ad.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 09:29 AM (RJMhd)

4
Actually, funny thing is that he didn't even officially endorse Romney.  He just made an appearance with him.

Posted by: dan-O at February 25, 2014 09:30 AM (D0bIN)

5 so it's his fault Mittens lost?

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 25, 2014 09:30 AM (q+fqH)

6 I'm so glad you did a post about this. Mike Rowe is a prime example of the sort of pop culture thing to which we should pay attention and try to make inroads. I have no illusions about him being a "conservative," but he's an eloquent principled high profile guy who is willing to engage with "us," so very valuable thing to cultivate, imho.

Posted by: Y-not at February 25, 2014 09:31 AM (zDsvJ)

7 Plus, he is smoking hawt.

Posted by: Y-not at February 25, 2014 09:31 AM (zDsvJ)

8 He dismissed people's concerns," said Jobs with Justice spokeswoman Ori Korin. "As someone who has been on the side working people before, we would have hoped he would have thought twice about working for a company that is notorious for not treating its workers well." SAYS WHO, that Walmart doesn't treat it's workers well? Jobs with Justice? the crazy leftniks? If these people were finally cut off from welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, gov. grants, etc. that enable them to wander around protesting companies like Walmart under the guise of a group named "Jobs for Justice", they would be begging to work at Walmart.

Posted by: Jen at February 25, 2014 09:32 AM (XkXzn)

9

Good, he needs to bitchslap those poor little butt hurt bitches with the cold hard reality of truth. Its about time for See BS to shut its more idiotic writters the hell up too.

Posted by: Gmac at February 25, 2014 09:32 AM (4pjhs)

10 Yay!  Home early from jury duty!  And Mike Rowe rocks!  I may actually become a fan of China-Mart again, if they follow through and actually invest the money they claim.  As it is, they have become a convenience more than a preferred place to shop for me.  Then again, I remember back when Sam was alive and running the show, and they extensively touted "Made in America" products that they carried.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 09:32 AM (uCYHf)

11 The Left is flat-out deranged, and they're still beating us.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 09:32 AM (8ZskC)

12 The NPR drones have always hated Walmart.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2014 09:32 AM (+ywjg)

13 The hatred of Wal-Mart is absurd. Glad to see they just keep doing what they do.

Posted by: brak at February 25, 2014 09:33 AM (NaTky)

14

Look, asshole, "fake but accurate" is a well recognized news reporting method.  That's especially true here at CBS, where we pioneered the practice.

 

So  quit your bitchin';  We don't like Mike Rowe and that ought to be enough for  all  of  you  out  there  in  the  hinterlands.

Posted by: CBS News Editors at February 25, 2014 09:33 AM (B5y+v)

15 Wal-Mart kidnaps people and forces them to shop, so it has no choice but to kidnaps workers to force them to work.

Posted by: Jobs with Justice at February 25, 2014 09:34 AM (8ZskC)

16 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 09:34 AM (PYAXX)

17 So they doctored a quote?


What else is new?

Posted by: EC at February 25, 2014 09:34 AM (GQ8sn)

18 Jobs With Justice. What is that, a lobbying outfit? How many jobs have they created? How do they treat their workers? Do they train anybody to do anything, at all?

Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 25, 2014 09:35 AM (3ZtZW)

19 Plus, he is smoking hawt. Posted by: Y-not at February 25, 2014 01:31 PM


+1


Also, doesn't CBS run ads for Walmart and isn't Amy, therefore, also a shill for Walmart?

Posted by: huerfano at February 25, 2014 09:35 AM (bAGA/)

20 Rather than resort to government, he used (or was recruited by) a private corporation to accomplish the same goal.

I think that bothers them as much as the word "WalMart."  Everything under the government, nothing outside the government.

Posted by: HR, watching scripts run at February 25, 2014 09:35 AM (ZKzrr)

21 Also, Ace, in the same piece there's the tremendous takedown by Rowe of the Jalopnik "writer" (and I put the word in quotes deliberately) who couldn't be bothered with simple fact-checking with either Rowe or Ford as to why Rowe was no longer advertising for Ford, chalking it up to Ford being part of the good tribe by dumping a pro-WallMart shill (as opposed to the facts - contract was up, went a different way, people are nice).

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at February 25, 2014 09:35 AM (BvTwT)

22 It's sad he has to even respond, but, yeah, it's a good truthful, slam response. But, will anyone hear it? The damage was done, how much is the later truth telling going to reverse? drive-by-attacks-24/7

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2014 09:35 AM (IXrOn)

23 Apparently a writer for CBS couldn't refrain from the Huff-Po level tribalistic attack. The writer noted that Mike Rowe had responded to a critics, “Who gives a crap about your feelings toward Walmart?” Unfortunately, Rowe writes, “Aimee leaves out the most important part, which for the record was this: ‘For that matter, who gives a crap about MY feelings? Isn’t the business of making things in America an initiative we can all get behind?’” ********** Feelings. It's what the Democrat Party is all about. Wal-Mart is one of the evil arch villains or archetypes that The Left have created--and that image can never be punctured. The Left is heavily invested in a reflexive negative reaction from their supporters to the "villains" that they have created. DIEBOLD Carlyle Group Wal-Mart McDonalds Koch Brothers (The list goes on...)

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 09:35 AM (RJMhd)

24 Pro Tip: Any organization with "Justice" in the name is only waiting for the chance to take out its opponents with a shovel blow to the back of the head.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 09:36 AM (8ZskC)

25 Basic math:  Rowe + Walmart > Fed Exec Gov + Fed Leg Gov

Posted by: dogfish at February 25, 2014 09:36 AM (nsOJa)

26 Love this guy!
His views on work are the opposite of the Dem's "freedom from job-lock" mentality.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2014 09:36 AM (aq/zi)

27

>>>The Left is flat-out deranged, and they're still beating us.

 

They're louder. And the "cool kids". Everybody wants to be a loud cool kid.

Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 25, 2014 09:36 AM (3ZtZW)

28 Didn't Walmart go all in to ingratiate itself with the left like NASCAR?

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 09:36 AM (zqvg6)

29 Mmmm, mmm.  A hate chicken sammich is sounding tasty now.

Posted by: dogfish at February 25, 2014 09:37 AM (nsOJa)

30 Mike Rowe is a pussy.

Posted by: Scott Walker at February 25, 2014 09:37 AM (32Ze2)

31 You know what i never get about the walmart because they are cheap employers ? why don't they ever mention target paying lower wages ? one is in their club , one is not?

Posted by: willow at February 25, 2014 09:37 AM (nqBYe)

32 obamacare is going to force more and more people into the Walmart doors.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2014 09:37 AM (IXrOn)

33 Although the latest-- "The Evil Scott Walker Premature Campaigning Monster"--is pretty laughable. That one needs some tweaking.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 09:37 AM (RJMhd)

34

Mike Rowe is the MAN.   He genuinely practices what he preaches, and that's hard to say about a lot of celebrities.   I work in career and tech ed, and Mike Rowe's involvement in the promotion of manufacturing and skilled trade jobs has been a huge boon   to us.  

 

I don't give a hoot for his politics, whatever they are.  He's actually got heart and soul, and believes in something    important.   That's all that should matter.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 25, 2014 09:37 AM (4df7R)

35 Because I'm an idiot, I was shocked to find out that the ad is controversial. I mean, I'll admit I rolled my eyes and went uh huh sure over what time span Wal-Mart and hey guess you got tired of paying the graft to China but I felt bad for being that cynical. It never once occurred to me that anyone would take issue with the very idea of the ad itself. ace, if I may humbly suggest it, I still maintain this is the best image to include in posts of this nature: http://bit.ly/1plnaxv

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 09:37 AM (VtjlW)

36

This looks pretty legitimate to me.

Posted by: Pinch Sulzberger at February 25, 2014 09:38 AM (B5y+v)

37 Mike Rowe's just a Card-Carrying Capitalist Provider. Those of a certain age will get that.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at February 25, 2014 09:38 AM (BvTwT)

38 $250 billion is an enormous sum of money. - Hell, I spend that much before I brush my teeth in the morning.

Posted by: Barack I at February 25, 2014 09:38 AM (Hx5uv)

39 I want to see him bite the testicles off goats again

Posted by: The Dude at February 25, 2014 09:38 AM (bStrg)

40 drags alex's cosmo to new thread hand it to her.

Posted by: willow at February 25, 2014 09:39 AM (nqBYe)

41

MISSION STATEMENT:

"Jobs With Justice believes that all workers should have collective bargaining rights, employment security, and a decent standard of living within an economy that works for everyone. We bring together labor, community, student, and faith voices at the national and local levels to win improvements in peopleÂ’s lives and shape the public discourse on workersÂ’ rights and the economy"

Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 25, 2014 09:39 AM (3ZtZW)

42 Wal-Mart kidnaps people and forces them to shop, so it has no choice but to kidnaps workers to force them to work. Forces them to work? Epic fail there.........

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 09:39 AM (p9JxP)

43 The Left is flat-out deranged, and they're still beating us.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 01:32 PM (8ZskC)

 

SHH!!  That kind of talk drives away the independents!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 25, 2014 09:39 AM (zF6Iw)

44

ace, if I may humbly suggest it, I still maintain this is the best image to include in posts of this nature:



http://bit.ly/1plnaxv

 

 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 01:37 PM (VtjlW)

 

 

... It's a "People of Walmart" picture, isn't it?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 25, 2014 09:39 AM (4df7R)

45 I put $250 million into Solyndra and just look at all the jobs it created.

Posted by: Henry Chu, A Nobel Laureate at February 25, 2014 09:39 AM (8ZskC)

46 But the CBS writer didn't include the full quote.....

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So ..... he...... lied????

O_O  <------ shocked face.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2014 09:40 AM (nELVU)

47 41 So,commies.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 09:40 AM (zqvg6)

48 I want to see him bite the testicles off goats again Posted by: The Dude at February 25, 2014 01:38 PM (bStrg) ______________________ Oh Me TOO!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at February 25, 2014 09:40 AM (32Ze2)

49 And speaking of justice, Eric Holder told a gathering of state AG that they don't have to uphold any state law that they don't like. Never mind their oath, etc. just do what they personally are in agreement with. http://tinyurl.com/ktpdc8y

Posted by: Jen at February 25, 2014 09:40 AM (XkXzn)

50 The professional left had gotten their Two Minutes Hate on for Rowe long before he became involved with the Wal-Mart matter.

Why? Because Rowe summed up Obama administration education policy by saying, "We're lending money we don't have to kids who can't pay it back to train them for jobs that no longer exist."

And you're just not allowed to say those kinds of things about the Most Smarterest Man Ever To Have Been President.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2014 09:40 AM (gqT4g)

51 we would have hoped he would have thought twice about working for a company that is notorious for not treating its workers well This drives me MAD. "notorious" why? Because shit-heads like this member of the female gender "say so." Walmart is far nicer than it has to be to its employees, and a far better employer than, say, Kroger or Target (according to people I've known who have worked at at least two of the three places). Are there some bad apples in management? Yes. The majority? Not by a long shot. Most workers who complain about Walmart are either a) bad apples themselves or b) paid shills for the Unions. Sometimes they're both. Walmart pays decent wages for the work provided. They provide pretty decent benefits including paid time off and insurance. They place a real focus on "hiring from within" and have generous benefits for any employee who wishes to further his or her education. Leftists hate Walmart because they don't want what Walmart represents- a world where people can make themselves better without government assistance.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 09:40 AM (PYAXX)

52

Wait, I'm confused!

 

You mean Walmart gets people to come buy stuff without a law requiring that they do so?  How the hell does that work?

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at February 25, 2014 09:40 AM (B5y+v)

53 Usually it is NBC that alters or edits quotes.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 09:40 AM (zqvg6)

54 The only place that $250 billion over 10 years isn't a massive sum is the Federal Government

Posted by: phreshone at February 25, 2014 09:40 AM (Q6pxP)

55 Didn't Walmart go all in to ingratiate itself with the left like NASCAR?

They had to discontinue a lot of their store-label "green" products because, surprise, people who shop there didn't want to pay 30+% more for stuff that didn't work as well.

Posted by: HR, watching scripts run at February 25, 2014 09:41 AM (ZKzrr)

56 The left didn't whine about Walmart when Hillary was on their Board of Directors.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 25, 2014 09:41 AM (6Nj7A)

57 24 Pro Tip: Any organization with "Justice" in the name is only waiting for the chance to take out its opponents with a shovel blow to the back of the head. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 01:36 PM (8ZskC) Thread winner. See also "academic justice" from yesterday.

Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2014 09:41 AM (zoehZ)

58

There are no job listings for JWJ but the staff is as dazzling as you might expect

Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 25, 2014 09:41 AM (3ZtZW)

59 The left is so fixated on defeating imaginary monsters it has no time for fighting real monsters.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 09:41 AM (Hx5uv)

60 You would think that a company or two might figure out that the only way they could ever please the left is to die and subsequently stop trying to appease them.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 25, 2014 09:41 AM (IVgIK)

61 What's this? Guilt by association is no longer an acceptable tactic to use against your political enemies? Who says?

Who says we can't have a public mob shaming of a celebrity who is on the other side?

Joe McCarthy, Chairman Mao's Cultural Revolution? Never heard of them.

Posted by: Another Smith at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (IGE9c)

62 How the hell does that work?

Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at February 25, 2014 01:40 PM (B5y+v)


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pssssst..... t...a...x

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (nELVU)

63 I initially misunderstood and wrote that Walmart planned to "invest" in American manufacturing. They're actually pledging to buy $250 billion in American-manufactured products. That is "an investment." It's just not a "by buying stocks" or "by making loans" investment. They are going to invest- put their money (and, yes, time)- in American Manufacturing. Rather than getting some pay-day from the manufacturers, though, they're expecting to sell those manufacturers' products.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (PYAXX)

64 Usually it is NBC that alters or edits quotes. Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 01:40 PM


Or blows up cars.

Posted by: huerfano at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (bAGA/)

65 $4/month is way too much to spend on contraception

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (Q6pxP)

66 Usually it is NBC that alters or edits quotes.


Also, fireworks.

Posted by: NBC Dateline at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (8ZskC)

67 but it is ok for Hillary to be one of the largest stockholder and former board member of Walmart. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/t/story?id=4218509&page=1

Posted by: landoflincoln at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (Ct6b7)

68 ... 30+% more for stuff that didn't work as well. Posted by: HR, watching scripts run at February 25, 2014 01:41 PM (ZKzrr) That is a description for almost all green products and jobs.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (6Nj7A)

69 I was in WalMart yesterday for the first time in months. Had to pick up a bird feeder and bird seed. I noticed that all the clothes at the front of the store looked startlingly like the clothes that were cool in the Miami Vice/Cyndi Lauper era. Fluorescent yellow, green, orange, etc.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (ZshNr)

70 Usually it is NBC that alters or edits quotes. NBC usually alters pick ups. To explode.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 09:42 AM (p9JxP)

71 Social Justice being the worst of the "justice" orgs. It means nothing and can cost you everything.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 09:43 AM (32Ze2)

72 Everybody knows the left hates Walmart because most of their stores are non-union and they refuse to bow down and kiss their ass.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 25, 2014 09:43 AM (T2V/1)

73 The tribe has tentacles. In this case, chop off the Union Tentacle, and we've got no problems at all.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2014 09:43 AM (IXrOn)

74

Rowe, thanks to his seven-year run on "Dirty Jobs," is viewed by many as the voice of the underdog, the overworked and the underpaid.

 

WRONG. See, he doesnÂ’t CONSIDER THEM HAPLESS UNDERDOGS IN NEED OF HELP. I watched several CNN videos of  him explaining this. His point is: take pride in your work, WHATEVER it is. He talks about all the folks working dirty jobs wereÂ…happy. Happy workers are the enemy  of the  Left.

 

Posted by: CJ at February 25, 2014 09:43 AM (9KqcB)

75 64 It's our specialty! NBC

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 09:43 AM (zqvg6)

76 The left is so fixated on defeating imaginary monsters it has no time for fighting real monsters.

Might be backwards.  The real monsters scare the piss out of them--or they agree with them, in the case of Al Qaeda et al--so they fight imaginary monsters.

Posted by: HR, watching scripts run at February 25, 2014 09:43 AM (ZKzrr)

77 I pick Walmart over Target now (mainly bec of that credit card info debacle) but it's good to know they are doing this. So lemme see: Chick FilA Barilla Walmart Hobby Lobby Gibson's Guitars McD's too I guess any others on the buycott list

Posted by: Votermom at February 25, 2014 09:43 AM (GSIDW)

78 Wal-Mart should have hired Lena Dunham or Bruno Mars to narrate the announcement. Tactical error on their part.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 25, 2014 09:44 AM (+lsX1)

79 Anyone who avers , as Mike Rowe does, that safety is not job one was destined to be screeched at by the castrati.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 25, 2014 09:44 AM (IVgIK)

80 Wal-Mart pays on average more than many in the retail sector, starts cashiers off at an average of around $12 an hr, offers medical & dental to all of its full-time and a large part of its part-time workforce, and administers the nation's largest 401k program. But they make money and they're a corporation so they're evil. Oh, and poor people shop there, and sometimes they build them near neighborhoods that don't want to see "those people." So they're evil.

Posted by: brak at February 25, 2014 09:44 AM (NaTky)

81 Mike Rowe's TED speech where he talks about the virtue of a job well-done, even if it's a dirty job. You just have to get past the 1st part where he describes removing sheeps testicles (but the lesson is the farmer's method is more humane than the so-called animal expert's).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVdiHu1VCc

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2014 09:44 AM (aq/zi)

82 Good for Rove. The problem is that the neutering of manufacturing (dating back to Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi) -- which at one time employed about 33% of the workforce -- is viewed by those on the left as a good thing. Because some people got wealthy. Can't have that happen. If Walmart comes through on its promise some people might get wealthy in the process. Lately, the left has taken to neutering health care -- which is about 12% of the economy. The left views this as a good thing. I can't help but wonder if the left will look at the 10% of the economy that the 'lawyering' industry generates with as much interest.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 25, 2014 09:44 AM (CnA98)

83 The guy who they executed a couple of years ago for raping/murdering a mother and her two teenage daughter in Florida turns out to be guilty of another rape murder. I remember his asshole family whining that he wasn't guilty. Oba Chandler was his name.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 25, 2014 09:44 AM (6Nj7A)

84 I love his voice. He should be doing voice over ads like Morgan Freeman.

Posted by: L' elle at February 25, 2014 09:45 AM (0xqKe)

85

If we on the left were to organize Walmart in a proper manner we would require that anyone who wants to buy something be required to buy a "basic" package of goods in order to get what they want.  So if you come in looking for, say, a toothbrush, we would like a law that says we can make you buy a bedroom set and some paper plates too. 

 

The left does these things better.

Posted by: Brian Roberts, Comcast CEO at February 25, 2014 09:45 AM (B5y+v)

86 Ha Ha AtC wonderful image. The left is not happy with anything other than the theft/graft of government and unions. WalMart could cure breast cancer and the left would find a way to bitch about it. I'm sick and fucking tired of the left.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2014 09:45 AM (HVff2)

87 Thank you willow. *sips* ... It's a "People of Walmart" picture, isn't it? Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 25, 2014 01:39 PM (4df7R) It is not a People of Walmart picture.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 09:45 AM (VtjlW)

88 The Progressive-Socialist Tribe wants power.  By any means.  If someone shows them up by proving they are not the answer, then yes the Heretic must be destroyed.  Must be sacrificed upon the altar of their false god Marx-Engels.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 25, 2014 09:46 AM (iVmdV)

89 >>84 I love his voice. Nice body, too. Bunk!

Posted by: Y-not at February 25, 2014 09:46 AM (zDsvJ)

90 “Shill for the Oppressors!” Sometimes The Left is just so--cute.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 09:46 AM (RJMhd)

91 any others on the buycott list

Posted by: Votermom at February 25, 2014 01:43 PM (GSIDW)


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KFC.... at least when PETA's on their ass.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2014 09:46 AM (nELVU)

92 The left is so fixated on defeating imaginary monsters it has no time for fighting real monsters.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 01:41 PM (Hx5uv)

 


This is why I have abandoned SMOD as my    apocalyptic    boyfriend    and have pinned my hopes    to     NeoGodzilla.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 25, 2014 09:46 AM (4df7R)

93 I was in Wal-mart yesterday. They Rickrolled me.

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 25, 2014 09:46 AM (bCEmE)

94

8: "SAYS WHO, that Walmart doesn't treat it's workers well? Jobs with Justice? the crazy leftniks?"

 

My mom. She worked for Walmart for around 8 years. Her workloads and shift schedules were chaotic and abusive. Turnover was a real problem, and the store couldn't keep assistant managers. The only problem for my mom is that at her age, no one would hire her but Walmart. It wasn't until her health started failing due to the stress and workload that she had to quit.

 

But this is an issue of really bad management. Walmart isn't any more evil than every other business out there. It's just being mismanaged into the ground. And these management trends are regional. One regional manager may have his shit together, while the next is a total fuckup.

 

Almost all of these things will be transparent to customers however, with the exception of the noticeable deterioration in store cleanliness and poor customer service. 

 

Most of these protesters are full of shit. But anyone who thinks Walmart is a good, or even tolerable place to work, should give it a try for a year or two. You know, that whole walk a mile thing...

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 25, 2014 09:46 AM (f6ZLT)

95 >>I love his voice. He should be doing voice over ads like Morgan Freeman.

Yep. He sings opera, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2014 09:46 AM (aq/zi)

96 Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 01:32 PM (uCYHf) I suspect a lot of the 25bil/year is going to go to thinks like meat that can't be imported cheaply as Wal-mart moves to become a grocery store as well as everything else. Speaking of the shitty economy horde, I"m out to go see about some part time low wage jobs so I can get some money and we can finally pay to repair the driveway. What "Jobs with Justice" fails to understand is that sometimes life sucks and you make less than you'd like. But you do it because some income is better than no income.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 09:46 AM (hq5sb)

97 Ori Korin is just some scary looking D.C. NoGo hanger on.

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at February 25, 2014 09:47 AM (oDCMR)

98 The tribe has tentacles. I knew they had trained sharks, but they have octopii also? What don't da joooos have?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 09:47 AM (p9JxP)

99 I want to see him bite the testicles off goats again>>

Here's his TED Talk on that experience and Other things he learned on Dirty Jobs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVdiHu1VCc

You can feel his disdain for the working man all the way through it.
/sarc

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 25, 2014 09:47 AM (tf9Ne)

100 The left is so fixated on defeating imaginary monsters it has no time for fighting real monsters.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 25, 2014 01:41 PM (Hx5uv)



I could see some tenured dumbasses stating that the concept of "monsters" is a construct and ergo imaginary with no basis in reality.  I'm sure PhD's have been granted for less substance than what I just stated.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2014 09:47 AM (+ywjg)

101

Is that what us bloggers do now, eh?

 

What we bloggers do, ace. 

 

(You could be absolved if you weren't throwing down tout petite bourgoisie in the same post).

Posted by: self-hating grammar nazi at February 25, 2014 09:47 AM (A0sHn)

102 11 The Left is flat-out deranged, and they're still beating us.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 25, 2014 01:32 PM (8ZskC)


They politicize everything to manipulate the LIV's. While the GOP attacks it's own base for backroom deals.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at February 25, 2014 09:47 AM (AWmfW)

103 "I noticed that all the clothes at the front of the store looked startlingly like the clothes that were cool in the Miami Vice/Cyndi Lauper era."

So I can wear my white suit and pink tee shirt combo again? Sweet.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 25, 2014 09:48 AM (IV4od)

104 You know, upon further reflection, Rowe could have upped the bitch smacking just that one notch more awesome by a well placed well bless your heart.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 09:49 AM (VtjlW)

105 Walmart is far nicer than it has to be to its employees, and a far better employer than, say, Kroger or Target (according to people I've known who have worked at at least two of the three places).

My in-law works for Target.  He and his wife are 100% pro-Union because the Union "fights for them".  They hate WalMart because no Unions.  There is no more thought than that that goes into it.

I'm in Boeing country.  One thing I've noticed is they Can't Stop Talking About Management.  At all.  Nobody I've ever met in any other professional capacity talks about "management" as much as a Union guy.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 25, 2014 09:49 AM (4QSOR)

106 Rowe has a lot of experience dealing with these  journ-o-list   types.   I've seen him on shows   dealing with manure pits and septic tanks quite often.

Posted by: Roy at February 25, 2014 09:49 AM (VndSC)

107 I love his voice. He should be doing voice over ads like Morgan Freeman. He does. So does Matt Damon! and George Clooney and a host of others...Christian Slater...

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 09:49 AM (mIAI5)

108

31: "You know what i never get about the walmart because they are cheap employers ?
why don't they ever mention target paying lower wages ?"

 

Having family who has worked for both of these companies (wife and mom), I think Target gets away with lower wages because they tend to (on a store by store basis) treat their employees better. There is also less turnover at Target. 

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 25, 2014 09:49 AM (v6cwT)

109 Mike Rowe also does some Lumberjackin' on the side.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 09:49 AM (32Ze2)

110 MWR the picture AlextheChick links to sums up the spoiled petulant 6 year old mindset of the Left.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 25, 2014 09:49 AM (iVmdV)

111 Most of these protesters are full of shit. But anyone who thinks Walmart is a good, or even tolerable place to work, should give it a try for a year or two. You know, that whole walk a mile thing... Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 25, 2014 01:46 PM (f6ZLT) Its called retail Bub. If you think that is bad, work in the food service industry. But, I digress.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2014 09:50 AM (HVff2)

112 That Aimee   girl   must  now   know how that cow felt on Rowe's artificial insemination show. 

Posted by: Roy at February 25, 2014 09:50 AM (VndSC)

113 107 I love his voice. He should be doing voice over ads like Morgan Freeman. He does. So does Matt Damon! and George Clooney and a host of others...Christian Slater... Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 01:49 PM (mIAI5) ********* The Sutherlands. (damn Canadians.)

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 09:50 AM (RJMhd)

114
It is not a People of Walmart picture.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 01:45 PM (VtjlW)

 

Oh thank God.

 

*clicks*

 

...

 

SO. TRUE.

 

I admit, of course, that I do that all the time with people who have Obammy bumperstickers and    pull in front of me in traffic.   "Look at this fucking mouthbreather, acting like he owns the road."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 25, 2014 09:50 AM (4df7R)

115
Target is own by a French conglomerate.

I dont shop Target.

Tribal???  Yep.  Le Blow Moi.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2014 09:50 AM (nELVU)

116 Based on their name I immediately know JWJ are commie agitators under a mind meld from the messiah. Good for Rowe. You can always tell when you're getting under the skin of a leftist because they turn into spittle spewing maniacs.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at February 25, 2014 09:50 AM (hpgw1)

117 I once saw Mike ROwe milk a  cat.

Posted by: elevenwing plover at February 25, 2014 09:50 AM (KXm42)

118 The only jobs the left wants are unionized or govt ones. Everyone else should be freed of their jobs and get on the dole.

Posted by: L, elle at February 25, 2014 09:50 AM (0xqKe)

119 ...Henry Rollins...

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 09:51 AM (mIAI5)

120 Mike Rowe follows in his OWN footsteps.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 09:51 AM (32Ze2)

121 One thing I can say for Target...no in-store music or announcements. It's so refreshingly quiet in there. But I still haven't been back to Target since the Christmas ID theft thing.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 25, 2014 09:51 AM (7ObY1)

122 Rowe has a lot of experience dealing with these journ-o-list types. I've seen him on shows dealing with manure pits and septic tanks quite often.>>

IIRC correctly he had a DJ episode on worm castings (poop). So yes he is quite experienced.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 25, 2014 09:51 AM (tf9Ne)

123 NeoGodzilla???

Is that you Keanu Reeves in that rubber suit?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 25, 2014 09:51 AM (iVmdV)

124 105
My in-law works for Target. He and his wife are 100% pro-Union because the Union "fights for them". They hate WalMart because no Unions. There is no more thought than that that goes into it.

I'm in Boeing country. One thing I've noticed is they Can't Stop Talking About Management. At all. Nobody I've ever met in any other professional capacity talks about "management" as much as a Union guy.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 25, 2014 01:49 PM (4QSOR)

 

Hmm, that's funny, because Target is also a non-union big box company. Yet they don't get nearly as many protests as Walmart. I'm sure it hasn't a thing to do with Target Corp.'s history of donating to politicians with (D) behind their name and having a HQ located in MN as opposed to Arkansas.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at February 25, 2014 09:51 AM (+/C3g)

125 >that is notorious for not treating its workers well."

I think that is really just a marketing blunder for Walmart. If Walmart simply rebranded as a "Retail Customer Service University"

1. Unskilled or Low Skilled employees become, "Undergraduates"
2. Skilled employees become "Graduate Students"
3. Managers become "Professors"

Then no one cares how badly you treat them, how few benefits there are, how much regimentation to the group message and limits expression there is, how stringent the attendance or hours requirements are, or how little you pay them, in fact, you could make group 1 pay you just to be there.

You see that's the rub isn't it? You are high school educated *nobody* and the same intelligensia that derides Walmart will stand up for bilking of you by the University System because you are no one, and they are "helping" you become someone by granting you a degree. So therefore the abuses are justified. But Walmart who is doing the exact same thing, (Taking the unskilled, and providing them with experience, training, and a permanent means to make a living in the retail service industry) and are derided because they wish to PAY bottom dollar for the unskilled. Whereas the University paying bottom dollar for the skilled (Graduate students) and next to nothing for unskilled (Undergraduate students) is just shined on as a toll for the benefit the University provides.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at February 25, 2014 09:51 AM (0q2P7)

126 115 Target is own by a French conglomerate. That's why it's pronounced "Tar-Jay"

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 25, 2014 09:51 AM (7ObY1)

127 Frankly, I don't even understand the controversy. Let me see if I've got this straight.

After years of selling billion after billion of Chinese crap, Wally World now pledges to buy billions in American made goods.

This is a bad thing how?

Posted by: Marcus T at February 25, 2014 09:52 AM (GGCsk)

128 Walmart is a good, or even tolerable place to work, should give it a try for a year or two. You know, that whole walk a mile thing...

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 25, 2014 01:46 PM (f6ZLT)

 

Keep in mind stores in different locations with different workforces and different managers will have different results, especially for workers who may not have your mom's physical challenges.

Posted by: CJ at February 25, 2014 09:52 AM (9KqcB)

129 But what does MISTY Rowe think about all this? Enquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 25, 2014 09:52 AM (7ObY1)

130

I suspect a lot of the 25bil/year is going to go to thinks like meat that can't be imported cheaply as Wal-mart moves to become a grocery store as well as everything else.

 

I doubt that, since that wouldn't count as a manufactured good.  That would be agricultural.  

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (4df7R)

131 Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 25, 2014 01:46 PM (f6ZLT) Actually, those sound like District problems, not Region (unless Walmart switched the definitions of those terms). And, for that matter, one of the tells in the industry is "flexible schedule." What that really means (and literally every major retailer/grocer does it) is "you'll work when we tell you to work. Schedules happen to the Managers." That's no different than a Target, or a K-Mart (yes, some still exist), or a Kroger, or an Albertsons, or (for that matter) a Burger King, McDonalds, or Jack-in-the-Box. And, in my experience, every low-end job sucks. Management are always stupid (this can apply to direct management, corporate management, or both), hours are always terrible, pay is always too low, etc. One of an hourly worker's perks is to bitch about their job. So, if *that's* what makes Walmart so bad, why do they get all the hate, instead of Target, or Burger King, or whoever?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (PYAXX)

132 Best  Dirty Jobs episode   ever  --  the Leather factory.


Rowe's reaction the The  Mangler  was priceless.

Posted by: elevenwing plover at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (KXm42)

133 Target is own by a French conglomerate. That's why it's pronounced "Tar-Jay" Same group owns Jean Claude Pen Jay.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (p9JxP)

134 Mike Rowe gave his Father "The Talk".

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (32Ze2)

135 So I can wear my white suit and pink tee shirt combo again? Sweet.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 25, 2014 01:48 PM (IV4od)


And you can stop buying socks to wear with your loafers.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (uCYHf)

136 Anyone else want a Bacon Egg and Cheese on an English Muffin?

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (mIAI5)

137 Hmm, that's funny, because Target is also a non-union bigboxcompany. Yet they don't get nearly as many protests as Walmart. I'm sure it hasn't a thing to do with Target Corp.'s history of donating to politicians with (D) behind their name and having a HQ located in MN as opposed to Arkansas. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at February 25, 2014 01:51 PM (+/C3g) Didn't the CEO (or ex CEO) of Wal-mart speak at the Dem. Convention in '12?

Posted by: Tami [/i][/b][/u][/s] at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (bCEmE)

138 Buying American is RAAAAACIST!

Posted by: Anti Wallyworlder at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (84gbM)

139 Sam Walton would approve.

Posted by: maddogg at February 25, 2014 09:53 AM (xWW96)

140 I noticed that all the clothes at the front of the store looked startlingly like the clothes that were cool in the Miami Vice/Cyndi Lauper era. Fluorescent yellow, green, orange, etc.

Yeah, that stuff came back into style to some degree.  My wife (middle school teacher) sees these trends come and go in cycles.  I don't know what the current "hot" style is.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 25, 2014 09:54 AM (4QSOR)

141 Wallyworld should not buy Anything except from Union Factories!!! Like in China!!!

Posted by: Anti Wallyworlder at February 25, 2014 09:54 AM (84gbM)

142 Oh thank God. *clicks* ... SO. TRUE. I admit, of course, that I do that all the time with people who have Obammy bumperstickers and pull in front of me in traffic. "Look at this fucking mouthbreather, acting like he owns the road." Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 25, 2014 01:50 PM (4df7R) I do it. You do it. Everyone does it. Every single person in the world does it. It's just that the Left goes to HATE HATE HATE ELEVENTY instantly.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 09:54 AM (VtjlW)

143 I think The Left might be trying to rehabilitate the automotive industry. The Big Car Makers use to be the evil empire--when it was Mikey Moore and his movie--now that Obama "owns it"--it is-- The Left's Mr. Cool --Bob Dylan doing commercials for GM.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 09:54 AM (RJMhd)

144 "But they make money and they're a corporation so they're evil. Oh, and poor people shop there, and sometimes they build them near neighborhoods that don't want to see 'those people.' So they're evil."

FFS, even Trader Joe's has gotten hit with the "not in this neighborhood" nonsense.

Up in Portland, in a not so great neighborhood, Trader Joe's proposed to build a store on a vacant lot.

Then the local lefties went apeshit. Why, it could lead to "gentrification"! As though neighborhoods becoming safer, cleaner and more prosperous is a bad thing, eh?

And the race hustlers got in the loop. Why, it's unthinkable to allow this without mandatory set-asides and thinly disguised bribes for African-Americans at every step of the way, and we'll throw sand in the gears till we get that!

Then the ecoholics started to whine. Why, the pristine environment of the vacant lot will be negatively affected! Also, people might DRIVE CARS to come shop there. Can't have that!

Finally, Joe's corporate just said, "Fuck this. We're out. We go where we're wanted and we're obviously not wanted here." So, a couple of million bucks in expansion spending got directed to another city.

Then all of the above took them to task for leaving! Upbraided them for a "lack of sensitivity to concerns".

Can't win, can't break even, can't quit the game: that's how it feels trying to do even the simplest things anywhere around the professional left.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2014 09:54 AM (gqT4g)

145 Mike Rowe was once bitten by a Rattlesnake, and after 5 days of excruciating pain, the snake finally died.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 09:55 AM (32Ze2)

146 Wallyworld is supporting the Racist and Miscogynistic American Culture... They should be buying everything from the Third world to support them... places like Uganda!

Posted by: Anti Wallyworlder at February 25, 2014 09:55 AM (84gbM)

147 The unions want to unionize Wal Mart not because they care about the workers (hint: they don't) but because the unions are dying and need a new host to feed off. Screw them.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at February 25, 2014 09:55 AM (7tz0i)

148 I doubt that, since that wouldn't count as a manufactured good. That would be agricultural. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 25, 2014 01:53 PM (4df7R) Read the actual statement at Walmart.com/americanjobs, they discuss things "made and grown" in America. Now I'm not saying this is a bad thing at all, I'm saying it's PR spin. Walmart is doing what's good for Walmart while spinning it. I say "good for them" on that. But I'm not expecting some sort of super turn around. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 01:53 PM (PYAXX) Yep these jobs suck, hence the not looking forward to it

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 09:55 AM (hq5sb)

149 I wonder how many unpaid interns are working at "Jobs for Justice" - whatever that is.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 25, 2014 09:55 AM (de32k)

150 The White House repeatedly has said that without a security agreement, the U.S. and international allies will have to withdraw all troops after the war formally concludes at the end of this year. The Pentagon has been pushing for the U.S. to keep up to 10,000 troops in Afghanistan after 2014. The War "Formally Concludes"? How the fuck does that work? "Formally Concludes"? Who the fuck are these assholes?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2014 09:56 AM (t3UFN)

151 Fuck GM. They will never get another dollar from me that wasn't stolen by the Government.

Posted by: maddogg at February 25, 2014 09:56 AM (xWW96)

152 I have seen many places that Mike Rowe is a lefty, but I wonder how long that will last. It takes some serious cognitive dissonance to believe the right hates workers when ONLY the right is treating blue-collar work with respect. Obama wouldn't listen to Rowe's education and job plan. Romney would. The left objects to buying American if Walmart's doing the buying. The right doesn't. The left attacks Rowe and lies about him. The right thinks he's great. I don't know how long Rowe's mind is going to hold out before it snaps, and he decides he's not a lefty at all. And then he won't have a career at all, if the Official People Who Care About The Poor Ignorant Workers have anything to say about it.

Posted by: VKI at February 25, 2014 09:56 AM (qySNZ)

153 or Burger King ********** I think Burger King is British.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 09:56 AM (RJMhd)

154 a company that is notorious for not treating its workers well. I think that notoriety is entirely the creation of the MBM. If Walmart paid workers poorly and treated them badly, the employees would flee to better companies.

Posted by: Mindy at February 25, 2014 09:57 AM (mQwL2)

155 I may have to stock up on popcorn for tomorrow night.  Science Channel episode of Strip the City will be about New Orleans and puny humans plans to protect the city from more hurricanes.

I will need the popcorn to throw at the TV.  Because I will be screaming, "Katrina was not the be all you chumps!  1965 Hurricane Betty did the same thing.  And guess what, the city is still a graft enabling dump that is mostly below water."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 25, 2014 09:57 AM (iVmdV)

156 So, if *that's* what makes Walmart so bad, why do they get all the hate, instead of Target, or Burger King, or whoever? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 01:53 PM (PYAXX) Because Walmart fights tooth and nail to keep out unions.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 09:57 AM (VtjlW)

157 Drudge:

>>Uganda Identifies 200 "Homos" After Anti-Gay Law is Signed<<

Ho-mo you don't!

Posted by: Marcus T at February 25, 2014 09:57 AM (GGCsk)

158 Hmm, that's funny, because Target is also a non-union bigboxcompany. Yet they don't get nearly as many protests as Walmart. I'm sure it hasn't a thing to do with Target Corp.'s history of donating to politicians with (D) behind their name and having a HQ located in MN as opposed to Arkansas.

Well, don't I feel stupid!  They must have been talking about wanting the Unionization of Target. 

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 25, 2014 09:57 AM (4QSOR)

159 I think Burger King is British.

Oh snap.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 09:58 AM (KXm42)

160 I do it. You do it. Everyone does it. Every single person in the world does it. It's just that the Left goes to HATE HATE HATE ELEVENTY instantly.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 01:54 PM (VtjlW)

 

 

Very   true.

 

"Awww, what a cute little puppy.   OMG WTF!?  It's wearing an  "I Miss Ronnie Reagan"   Sweater!??!?   WHAT A FUCKING BITCH!"

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 25, 2014 09:58 AM (4df7R)

161 Mike Rowe once went to a psychic.... to warn her.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 09:58 AM (32Ze2)

162 The elite in the MSM and their "Jobs With Justice" rabble rousing comrades will never expose how low paid and shabbily treated those employed by Hollywood studios and production staffs are Walmart pays better than Warner Brothers, that much I can assure you

Posted by: kbdabear at February 25, 2014 09:58 AM (aTXUx)

163 I work at Wal-Mart. It's certainly not the most glamorous or high-paying job out there, but I earn a competitive wage for my qualifications. I also get 3 weeks of paid vacation each year, plus paid sick days and personal time. I get insurance, and I have a 401k that Wal-Mart will match my contributions to up to a certain point. They will also match my stock purchases up to a certain point. And I'm eligible for quarterly profit-sharing bonuses. I don't really feel exploited by my employer, and I don't hear many of my coworkers say they do either. And, working in the hardware department, I also get to tell lots of Democrat voters why they can't buy boxes of 4 incandescent light bulbs for $1 anymore.

Posted by: Paul at February 25, 2014 09:58 AM (GTyB/)

164 The War "Formally Concludes"? How the fuck does that work? Last guy out turns off the lights, locks the front door & leaves the key under the mat?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 09:58 AM (p9JxP)

165 Coming from a background in American manufacturing, with decades of experience dealing with foreign manufacturing, I am confident in saying what is needed to solve our problem is a massive government program. If we want a thriving manufacturing sector, full employment and continued growth, we need the U.S. government to immediately start to build 500 identical nuclear reactors, providing free power to companies who would distribute it for a small fee. Due to unique nature of nuclear power, only the government can deal with the siting, deregulation, liabilities, waste and other factors. Base industries, steel, aluminum, copper, etc. and first tier manufacturing relies on cheap energy far more than an wage differential. Instead of increasing Social Security, give seniors free electricity. Give everyone free electricity. Civilization advances in direct proportion to the quantity of cheap power.

Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2014 09:59 AM (u2a4R)

166 147 The unions want to unionize Wal Mart not because they care about the workers (hint: they don't) but because the unions are dying and need a new host to feed off. Screw them. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at February 25, 2014 01:55 PM (7tz0i) ************* ...which is why they hate Scott Walker. Scott Walker exposed the great gig that public sector unions had going. It's kind of a huge tell that unions don't want to let their rank and file members -- vote.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 09:59 AM (RJMhd)

167

Read the actual statement at Walmart.com/americanjobs, they discuss things "made and grown" in America.


Ah, that would make sense then.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 25, 2014 09:59 AM (4df7R)

168

>>Le Blow Moi.

 

Ugh. Je me sucer, I think

Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 25, 2014 09:59 AM (3ZtZW)

169 I never understood the hate for Walmart.  My father ran a small business for 50 years and I ran one for 15 --- before I saw the shitstorm that is Obama coming and got out while I still could.  Walmart made it possible for our employees to have a decent standard of living since we were never able to pay all that much. 

BTW, you really can't compete with them for labor.  They have good benefits that are difficult to match.  When they were starting up they had good stock plans where their employees could buy in and lots of people did very well from that.  But then elitists wouldn't feel as elite if they couldn't look down on the proles.  They claim to admire the working class, but they sneer at all of the institutions that make it possible for them to survive.

Bastards, the lot of them.

Posted by: Thatch at February 25, 2014 09:59 AM (qYvEa)

170 I can't even count how many dates/semi-formal dances/nights "out" there were in the Eighties when I was rocking the linen sport coat with OP T-shirt underneath. During the day, it was Jammz of course.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 10:00 AM (ZshNr)

171 She worked for Walmart for around 8 years.Her workloads and shift schedules were chaotic and abusive.Turnover was a real problem, and the store couldn't keep assistant managers. Stores like Walmart know the cause of their turnover. It is scheduling, pure and simple. They call it 'flexible' -- which means the employee has to be flexible. From week to week the schedule of days and weekends worked is constantly changing. It is the number one cause of voluntary terminations (take this job and shove it). The answer is to hire more workers and fix a permanent work schedule (like Monday to Friday) for workers with greater seniority. But they don't do that, because bottom line.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 25, 2014 10:00 AM (CnA98)

172 OK wrong but closer

Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 25, 2014 10:00 AM (3ZtZW)

173 or Burger King ********** I think Burger King is British. Wouldn't that be Burger Queen then?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 10:00 AM (p9JxP)

174 I am a little clueless as to what we still manufacture besides firearms.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 25, 2014 10:00 AM (GGCsk)

175 And, working in the hardware department, I also get to tell lots of Democrat voters why they can't buy boxes of 4 incandescent light bulbs for $1 anymore.

 

Posted by: Paul at February 25, 2014 01:58 PM (GTyB/)

 

You must find it hard to walk    by the end of the day, on account of the massive schadenboner.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/b][/i] at February 25, 2014 10:00 AM (4df7R)

176 GM delivered* 2.8 million vehicles in 2013 in the US.

That $250 billion?

Would buy the entire GM US deliveries for more than 2 years.

I like the part where he called out the stupid bint for thinking what WalMart workers need was a few more pennies in their pocket in dying industry rather than a fulfilling, long-term career.


* I believe that includes their vehicles manufactured elsewhere (Mexico) and shipped here.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 25, 2014 10:01 AM (VjL9S)

177 "Mike Rowe's sin seems to be that he does more than talk -- he gets results -- and thus embarrasses the left as impotent whiners who have nothing to contribute but carping."

 

 

I have been posturing for hours!  Do you know how tiring it is to keep the correct thoughts foremost in the mind and not let your attention drift off to....

 

 

 

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Winter of Discontent will End! The Flowers of Fury will be here for Spring Planting at February 25, 2014 10:01 AM (hLRSq)

178 I seriously need to bump into Mike Rowe at a pub somewhere, and buy him drinks for the rest of the night.

Posted by: cu'chulainn at February 25, 2014 10:01 AM (Vk2CC)

179 150 The White House repeatedly has said that without a security agreement, the U.S. and international allies will have to withdraw all troops after the war formally concludes at the end of this year. The Pentagon has been pushing for the U.S. to keep up to 10,000 troops in Afghanistan after 2014. The War "Formally Concludes"? How the fuck does that work? "Formally Concludes"? Who the fuck are these assholes? Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2014 01:56 PM (t3UFN) The WH wants to have a closing ceremony that beats out the one Putin had at the Olympics.

Posted by: Jen at February 25, 2014 10:02 AM (XkXzn)

180

You know what, Walmart  workers  are  being  demeaned  by working  at  the company.   It's just terrible that they must do these horrible things to pay for  food  and  rent  and  all  that  sort  of  stuff  poor  people  have  to  pay  for.   

 

Instead, they should have chosen to become porn stars like this now-famous Duke University student paying her own way through college.  

 

http://bit.ly/OzhulK    

Posted by: Sandra Fluck at February 25, 2014 10:02 AM (B5y+v)

181 And, working in the hardware department, I also get to tell lots of Democrat voters why they can't buy boxes of 4 incandescent light bulbs for $1 anymore. Winning!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 10:02 AM (p9JxP)

182 Wasn't there an article about Walmart actually having great insurance if you get really sick - they figured out it costs less to send their employees who need major (?) surgery to a leading hospital out of state then keep them in whatever local hospital was available?

Posted by: Votermom at February 25, 2014 10:02 AM (GSIDW)

183 Je me sucer, I think

Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 25, 2014 01:59 PM (3ZtZW)


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Lol... I was trying to be..... what's that word??.... oh.. yeah..... "provincial".

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2014 10:02 AM (nELVU)

184 MISSION STATEMENT:
"Jobs With Justice believes that all workers should have collective bargaining rights, employment security, and a decent standard of living within an economy that works for everyone. We bring together labor, community, student, and faith voices at the national and local levels to win improvements in peopleÂ’s lives and shape the public discourse on workersÂ’ rights and the economy"

Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 25, 2014 01:39 PM (3ZtZW)

So, a nest of commie union scum. Fuck 'em with the barbed cock of Satan.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 25, 2014 10:03 AM (0yhH4)

185 Colorado Girl Scouts barred from selling cookies outside pot shops Is this Pot that is made in America?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 25, 2014 10:03 AM (t3UFN)

186 Civilization advances in direct proportion to the quantity of cheap power. Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2014 01:59 PM (u2a4R) Yup.... put a couple of Nuclear powered desalination plants in California? Historical drought problems solved...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 25, 2014 10:03 AM (84gbM)

187

I think Burger King is British

 

It may be British-owned, but it's still American.  Budweiser is not a Belgian beer.  (And Brits can't make hamburgers, it's the one thing Gordon Ramsey consistently gets wrong).

 

I remember in the 80s when we were afraid of Japan's ascendence everyone freaked out that the Japs were buying the Empire State Building.  So what?  Are they going to put it on a barge and tow it to Kyoto?  Capital is global.  This is a good thing.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 10:03 AM (A0sHn)

188 And, working in the hardware department, I also get to tell lots of Democrat voters why they can't buy boxes of 4 incandescent light bulbs for $1 anymore. Posted by: Paul at February 25, 2014 01:58 PM (GTyB/) Gotta love perks like that!

Posted by: Mindy at February 25, 2014 10:03 AM (mQwL2)

189 Target is own by a French conglomerate.

I dont shop Target.

Tribal??? Yep. Le Blow Moi.

Posted by: fixerupper

Source?

Looking over the wiki for Target I see only a wholly-owned corporation hq'd in MN formerly known as Dayton Hudson Corp.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 25, 2014 10:03 AM (xrX4n)

190 Then the local lefties went apeshit. Why, it could lead to "gentrification"! As though neighborhoods becoming safer, cleaner and more prosperous is a bad thing, eh?



I've heard nonsense like that around Cleveland as well.  Choosing to live in squalor rather than taking some pride in the surroundings.  I think some people prefer to be thought of as victims rather than taking control of their lives.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 25, 2014 10:03 AM (+ywjg)

191 When leftists talk about "justice" in employment, this is their idea of "justice" Every employee unionized and having lots of union dues taken from their checks Making themselves scarce when actual work related issues arise, but showing up when they want bodies for protest marches, and they don't want to hear about your petty little problems Employers mandated to pay shitloads of money to the commie special interest groups who are friends of the JWJ agitators

Posted by: kbdabear at February 25, 2014 10:03 AM (aTXUx)

192 And you can stop buying socks to wear with your loafers.

 

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 01:53 PM (uCYHf)

 

Wait - when did that go out of style?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 25, 2014 10:03 AM (zF6Iw)

193 You all may be shocked to learn that I have never been in a WalMart. In fact, until recently I had never even seen a WalMart. Seriously. But a year or so ago I saw one by the side of a freeway somewhere. I actually cried out, "Look -- a WalMart" like I had seen a Sasquatch or something.

Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2014 10:04 AM (+cx5n)

194 Not the article I read but same basic info: Surprise! Walmart health plan is cheaper, offers more coverage than Obamacare http://preview.tinyurl.com/mu6wfvc

Posted by: Votermom at February 25, 2014 10:04 AM (GSIDW)

195 >>>I am a little clueless as to what we still manufacture besides firearms.

We are still the #1 industrial engine manufacturer in the world.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at February 25, 2014 10:04 AM (0q2P7)

196 I have a long history of hating on Wal*mart, mostly because I don't like their business practices, but this is absolutely something I can get on board with. I've been at odds with conservatives over this for a long time, and it's not just a problem that Wal*mart has, but it really boils down to our way of life. We want the cheap TV's and lawn mowers, and the reality is there are consequences to those cheap tv's and lawn mowers, and that is by and large outsourcing and exploitation of foreign workers, and loss of manufacturing capacity and jobs for us back home. Snapper famously refused to do business with Wal*mart because they wouldn't compromise on quality to offer a $99 lawn mower. They knew it was a slippery slop that would result in closing their assembly lines in the US, and a shift in production to Mexico, or Asia somewhere. Any sincere effort by Wal*mart or anyone to reverse that should be welcomed. I've very much admired Mike Rowe's initiatives for some time. There has been a catastrophic drop in skilled labor, I think in large part because it's looked down upon, and the focus is that all kids should go to college. That is nonsense, and there is nothing wrong with meaningful, fullfilling trade work. That is what his foundation is all about. Not everyone is going to be the white collar executive pulling in the big bucks, but that's what we sell our kids as they are going through school. So Bravo to Mike Rowe, and a gold star to Wal*mart.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 25, 2014 10:04 AM (n/ogz)

197 Someone metioned Mikey Dee's upstream?

The one at the foot of the Causeway here has decent food. When you don't want to heat up or mess up the kitchen a takeout from there is a nice break.

Back when my late wife was alive they advertised for part-time, assistant, and full-time manager positions. $25,000, $35,000, and $50,000 a year salaries. Benefits- good ones. The highest level got a company car.

She was Honey Creek's second highest paid employee. Took home $603 every two weeks. Do the math. For my area those salaried MD offered is good money- even without the bennies weighing in to it.

Posted by: backhoe at February 25, 2014 10:05 AM (ULH4o)

198 Funny, Target has nicer and cleaner stores and higher prices but does the same things that Wal Mart does. Yet they get a pass from the left. My theory. I'ts pure snobbery. Target is simply nicer and tends to attract less poor people. The left are hypocritical snobs.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 25, 2014 10:05 AM (bXdYS)

199 193 I never saw them in NY either,as NY keeps them out because they refuse to unionize.NJ has them though.

Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2014 10:05 AM (zqvg6)

200

131: "Management are always stupid (this can apply to direct management, corporate management, or both), hours are always terrible, pay is always too low, etc. One of an hourly worker's perks is to bitch about their job."

 

I'm not up on the distinction between district and regional management for the company. So my definition may be incorrect.

 

But there is a noticeable difference in stores. Seguin and New Braunfels are total shitholes, from both the customer and employee perspectives, while the Garden Ridge store seems well run. Not sure how those lines are drawn.

 

I will however take issue with trying to minimize any complaint as the usual grumbling of employees. My mom is tougher than a lot of SOF grunts. She's worked with hands broken by horses, cracks in the bones of her feet, and worse. None of those things could make her tap.

 

I know nothing is meant by the usual quips, but after seeing what this place did to my mom and others in the area, this is just one of those things that pisses a mug off. Especially since it is so needless. The company would actually generate more profits if they would quit this shit. The shortsightedness is dumbfounding. 

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 25, 2014 10:05 AM (f6ZLT)

201 I wish they would commit to buying from Right to Work States, rather than from Union Shops.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 10:05 AM (mIAI5)

202 I wonder how Mike Rowe would do in Piers Morgan's slot.

Posted by: Passably Affable at February 25, 2014 10:06 AM (/YzPM)

203 Saw  some "artist"  who   thought the abandoned decay in   Detroit   was a totally awesome  place for his found art  exhibits.






Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 10:07 AM (KXm42)

204 I was thirty years old before I ever stepped foot in a WalMart. They just didn't exist in my part of Massachusetts. Some girl at college in Ohio accused me of being a liar and a snob for saying that I'd never been in a Wal-Mart back in 1989. I was like, WTF are you talking about? I'd been inside a KMart, but that wasn't good enough.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 10:07 AM (ZshNr)

205 These are also the same elitist that tell us we need Amnesty because we need cheap labor to do manual labor like mow their lawns.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at February 25, 2014 10:07 AM (7tz0i)

206 His point is: take pride in your work, WHATEVER it is. He talks about all the folks working dirty jobs wereÂ…happy. Happy workers are the enemy of the Left. Posted by: CJ at February 25, 2014 01:43 PM (9KqcB) He should do a show highlighting these workers.

Posted by: RWC at February 25, 2014 10:07 AM (fWAjv)

207 Mike Rowe should do a show like Government Jobs where he spends time working with people at the DMV or IRS.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 25, 2014 10:08 AM (+lsX1)

208 You know what, Walmart workers are being demeaned by working at the company. It's just terrible that they must do these horrible things to payfor food and rent and all that sort of stuff poor people have to pay for. Instead, they should have chosen to become porn stars like this now-famous Duke University student paying her own way through college. http://bit.ly/OzhulK Posted by: Sandra Fluck at February 25, 2014 02:02 PM (B5y+v) OMG....Ace could do an entire article on this interview. That is really frightening. It's her attitude , she is going to be a full on screaming angry feminist, with STD;s.

Posted by: Jen at February 25, 2014 10:08 AM (XkXzn)

209 Why should the trash who shop at WalMart be allowed to buy stuff made by the American proletariat instead of little kids in Asia?  Do you want those poor little kids to starve, you heartless teabaggers?

Posted by: Compassionate Progressive at February 25, 2014 10:08 AM (tv7DV)

210 "198 Funny, Target has nicer and cleaner stores and higher prices but does the same things that Wal Mart does. Yet they get a pass from the left. My theory. I'ts pure snobbery. Target is simply nicer and tends to attract less poor people. The left are hypocritical snobs. Posted by: Minnfidel at February 25, 2014 02:05 PM (bXdYS)" I had read a study over a decade ago about income profiles on the average K-Mart, Wal*Mart and Target shoppers and you are about right, I think there was a 10 - 15K a year difference in income between teach of three tiers, K-mart at the bottom, Target at the top. Target to my knowledge is not as aggressive with their suppliers, but I have no real insight on that, it might just be there is not the same sustained level of hatred for them, so we don't hear about it.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 25, 2014 10:08 AM (n/ogz)

211 and that is by and large outsourcing and exploitation of foreign workers ********* Well I know a person that is a sourcing manager for a big American firm--flies to China all the time to get clothing made on the cheap she is a-- huge FEMINIST DEMOCRAT --the irony.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 10:09 AM (RJMhd)

212 My theory. I'ts pure snobbery. Target is simply nicer and tends to attract less poor people. The left are hypocritical snobs.>>

I would also guess target has less locations in poorer areas. I have no evidence just guessing. Seems to be a more suburban brand.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 25, 2014 10:09 AM (tf9Ne)

213 I just plain don't like Wal-Mart. 

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 10:09 AM (KXm42)

214 Mike Rowe should do a show like Government Jobs where he spends time working with people at the DMV or IRS. I'll take 5 minutes for a hundred bucks before he kills one of them for being a slacker.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 10:10 AM (p9JxP)

215 To the leftists, Walmart is Designated Evil. And because it is Designated Evil, anything they do is also Evil. Even the most mundane things when done by Designated Evil are then also Evil. Reminds me of an episode of the Justice League cartoon. The Flash and Lex Luthor have had their minds telepathically swapped. Flash(as Lex) is leaving a bathroom when another super villian asks him if he's going to wash his hands. Flash responds, "No! Because I'm eeeevil!"

Posted by: Cicero418 at February 25, 2014 10:10 AM (S35wq)

216 Target Corp is still based out of MN and is not foreign owned. Once part of the Dayton Hudson Corp. Burger King, likewise, is still American owned. Based out of Miami.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 10:10 AM (32Ze2)

217 The left is snobs against poor people.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 25, 2014 10:10 AM (bXdYS)

218 "Target has nicer and cleaner stores and higher prices"

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And more data security breaches

Posted by: Jay in PA at February 25, 2014 10:10 AM (3LaGb)

219

"He dismissed people's concerns," said Jobs with Justice spokeswoman Ori Korin."

 

Fuck your concerns

Posted by: The Jackhole at February 25, 2014 10:11 AM (nTgAI)

220 Ah, that would make sense then. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at February 25, 2014 01:59 PM (4df7R) After reading more though I"m not so sure, they talk about furniture and high end appliances. Who knows. By the by, is that actually Jwest or some sort of performance art?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 10:11 AM (hq5sb)

221 I had read a study over a decade ago about income profiles on the average K-Mart, Wal*Mart and Target shoppers and you are about right, I think there was a 10 - 15K a year difference in income between teach of three tiers, K-mart at the bottom, Target at the top. Could have something to do with their prices also.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 10:11 AM (p9JxP)

222 Target's selection isn't all that great.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 10:11 AM (KXm42)

223 Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 02:07 PM (ZshNr)


When I was a freshman at Mississippi State, the guy in the room next to me in the dorm was from Ohio.  He had a list of items upon moving in that he needed to procure, and asked where he should go to get them; of course, everyone's answer was Wal-Mart.  He had never heard of Wal-Mart, and didn't understand the concept until we explained that it was basically the southern version of K-Mart.

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 10:11 AM (uCYHf)

224 Burger King, likewise, is still American owned. Based out of Miami. Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 02:10 PM (32Ze2) ********* That dude leaping around in tights--could have sworn he was British.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 10:11 AM (RJMhd)

225 The US still manufactures a LOT of things. You would be surprised by the wide variety of things that are still manufactured here. Don't believe the hype about everything being outsourced. It is just not true.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 10:12 AM (32Ze2)

226 Just remember this about Wal-Mart in a year or so: First female on their Board of Directors? Hillary Clinton

Posted by: brak at February 25, 2014 10:12 AM (NaTky)

227

My only problem with Walmart buying 250 Billion in US products over ten years is MATH.

 

$25 Billion/yr is LESS THAN 10% of Walmarts Yearly Sales. 

 

Walmart is pledging to add less than 10% more US Products to its Chinese / Indian /Paki / Mexican / Who knows Where Made Crap. 

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2014 10:12 AM (D+lxs)

228 No guns at Target

Posted by: Votermom at February 25, 2014 10:12 AM (GSIDW)

229 ... It's a "People of Walmart" picture, isn't it? AtC's link? No, it's much better, pleasant-looking and to the point.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (kwc/t)

230 We used to have a place called Spag's in Shrewsbury MA that served as a sort of WalMart for generations. One of those huge, sprawling, sells everything kind of places. Reading their Sunday newspaper ads was first priority upon picking up my bundle of papers for delivery. By the time I was done with my route, I knew exactly which fishing gear/Atari games/sports equipment I was going to be buying on the way home from the Grandparents after Sunday dinner.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (ZshNr)

231 Mike Rowe should do a show like Government Jobs where he spends time working with people at the DMV or IRS.>>

Have him submit his request to the Potemkin village manager and we will get this set up.

Posted by: Govt PR wing at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (tf9Ne)

232 "Burger King, likewise, is still American owned. Based out of Miami." Whatever happened to Burger King? The Whopper used to be pretty good, then it turned to shit. BK never could make a French fry, but at one time they had a good burger. Too bad.

Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (u2a4R)

233 I would also guess target has less locations in poorer areas. I have no evidence just guessing. Seems to be a more suburban brand. Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 25, 2014 02:09 PM ...Could be. But Target does the same shit as Wal Mart and they get a pass from the left.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (bXdYS)

234 K-Mart is owned by Sears.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (RJMhd)

235 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at February 25, 2014 01:57 PM (VtjlW) Well, yes. I know that's the real answer. That's kind of the point- Target, K-Mart, Sears, JCPenny, Kroger, Albertsons, HEB, Burger King, McDonalds, Taco Bell, and on and on have policies that are the same *or worse* than Walmart's. Yet somehow Walmart is the bogeyman.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (PYAXX)

236 Note that the average leftist, factually, could not explain why they "hate" Walmart.

It is simply incoherent rage against "the other"

Posted by: Jay in PA at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (3LaGb)

237 ..plus, Wal Mart is chock full of sexual symbolism walk down the aisles and all you can see is vaginas and phalluses

Posted by: soothi with justice at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (YCQeq)

238 Posted by: rd at February 25, 2014 02:12 PM (D+lxs) I don't expect Walmart to do anything more though. They're doing what makes good business sense to them.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 10:13 AM (hq5sb)

239 I will not rest until we are the world's largest manufacture of grievances. 

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 25, 2014 10:14 AM (tv7DV)

240 149 I wonder how many unpaid interns are working at "Jobs for Justice" - whatever that is. Posted by: shredded chi at February 25, 2014 01:55 PM (de32k) Came in here to say something similar. The media loves to rag on Walmart, but how many unpaid interns do they "employ?" When Elizabeth Warren was babbling about $22/hr minimum wages, she couldn't shut up fast enough when people asked if anybody on her staff made less than $22/hr. If those DC politicians actually followed the standards they want to set for everyone else, I might take them seriously. Might.

Posted by: Hal at February 25, 2014 10:14 AM (MftY/)

241 >>>I am a little clueless as to what we still manufacture besides firearms. We are still the #1 industrial engine manufacturer in the world. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at February 25, 2014 02:04 PM (0q2P7) Steel and stuff made of steel like fencing. Watch the videos, great kickass manly music. http://redbrand.com/WhyRedBrand/TheProcess.aspx

Posted by: Jen at February 25, 2014 10:14 AM (XkXzn)

242 I thought K-Mart went tits up?

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 10:14 AM (mIAI5)

243 I'm a Target shopper (didn't have Walmart in a place I lived until about 10 years ago). They often pair with trendy clothing designers and big-name brands to create a custom Target line of lower-priced items, such as an Ethan Allen line of furniture. This gives them cache with the shoppers who recognize these name brands & trendy designers. It is a clever strategy.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 25, 2014 10:15 AM (aq/zi)

244 No guns at Target Nor ammo. And their fishing dept sucks goats ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 10:15 AM (p9JxP)

245 Speaking of which  --  Levis jeans are wildly inconsistent quality wise depending which of the umpteen different countries they were made in.

Buyer beware.


I used to just walk in and grab a couple pair in my size and go to the check out.  Not any more.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 10:15 AM (KXm42)

246 and that is by and large outsourcing and exploitation of foreign workers

I know I'm being pedantic, but you're talking about offshoring.  Outsourcing is just employing people/groups outside your company.  They can be just down the street, or even contractors working side by side with your workers on site.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 25, 2014 10:15 AM (4QSOR)

247 Yeah... The Burger King Mascot can induce sweat drenched nightmares. They should change the psycho plastic head king into something more human IMHO.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 10:15 AM (32Ze2)

248 ACE - THAT SANDRA FLUCK LINK NEEDS ITS OWN POST






















Holy crow!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 25, 2014 10:15 AM (IVgIK)

249 Further proof the lone thing that liberals provide is snark.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at February 25, 2014 10:15 AM (Lljg2)

250 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 02:13 PM (PYAXX) Some of it is the unions. Some is how aggressively successful Walmart has been too. People want to pin all sorts of small business deaths on Walmart. I'm not saying you legitimately can (I'm not sure) but walmarts aggressive success makes it convenient to do so.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 10:15 AM (hq5sb)

251 232 "Burger King, likewise, is still American owned. Based out of Miami." Whatever happened to Burger King? The Whopper used to be pretty good, then it turned to shit. BK never could make a French fry, but at one time they had a good burger. Too bad. Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2014 02:13 PM (u2a4R) ******** Actually their fries aren't that good. They use mashed up potato parts--instead of "whole potato" slices. (gawd that sounds weird--I think I might be making this shit up.)

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 10:15 AM (RJMhd)

252 mostly because I don't like their business practices Which business practices would those be? The ones that save their competitors and suppliers a ton of money in logistics? Or the ones that save their customers time and money?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 10:16 AM (PYAXX)

253 And when I started learning about just how much porn stars make, I realized I could graduate from school free of debt and do something I really love doing without having to bust my ass You make a higher rate if you do 'bust your ass.' Just saying.

Posted by: RWC at February 25, 2014 10:16 AM (fWAjv)

254 247 Yeah... The Burger King Mascot can induce sweat drenched nightmares. They should change the psycho plastic head king into something more human IMHO. Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 25, 2014 02:15 PM (32Ze2) ******** It's hella weird.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 10:17 AM (RJMhd)

255 Speaking of 80's fashion and Wally World: http://youtu.be/i3R7GkJff_Q

Posted by: Country Singer at February 25, 2014 10:17 AM (uCYHf)

256 Posted by: rd at February 25, 2014 02:12 PM (D+lxs) Very very good point... so.... when you figure in markup.... like 3/4ths of the stuff they buy will be from out of the US... Including FOOD????

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 25, 2014 10:17 AM (84gbM)

257

Target's selection isn't all that great.

Posted by: eleven at February 25, 2014 02:11 PM (KXm42)

 

True.  It does not have sewing supplies or much hardware.  It doesn't sell batteries and tires.  But most of its products are good solid products. 

 

And for name brands, it is as cheap as Wally-Mart.  Especially with their 5% discount program. 

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2014 10:17 AM (D+lxs)

258 FFS, even Trader Joe's has gotten hit with the "not in this neighborhood" nonsense. Up in Portland, in a not so great neighborhood, Trader Joe's proposed to build a store on a vacant lot. Then the local lefties went apeshit. Why, it could lead to "gentrification"! As though neighborhoods becoming safer, cleaner and more prosperous is a bad thing, eh? And the race hustlers got in the loop. Why, it's unthinkable to allow this without mandatory set-asides and thinly disguised bribes for African-Americans at every step of the way, and we'll throw sand in the gears till we get that! Then the ecoholics started to whine. Why, the pristine environment of the vacant lot will be negatively affected! Also, people might DRIVE CARS to come shop there. Can't have that! Finally, Joe's corporate just said, "Fuck this. We're out. We go where we're wanted and we're obviously not wanted here." So, a couple of million bucks in expansion spending got directed to another city. Then all of the above took them to task for leaving! Upbraided them for a "lack of sensitivity to concerns". Can't win, can't break even, can't quit the game: that's how it feels trying to do even the simplest things anywhere around the professional left. Posted by: torquewrench Similar situation happened in Berkeley, but in this case Trader Joe's caved into to the progressive demands, and got their store built. Setting the scene: Berkeley. One of the very few strip malls in the entire city. Very small, had only 4 tenants -- all closed up shop and left. Vacant. Ugly. But on a potentially prime retail corner near downtown. Trader Joe's said -- Hey, you hippies would love a TJ's there! Let's build a store on that site! Yay! Not so fast. The city government and the local progressive fascists heaped insane demands on TJ's to get a building permit. First up: BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POOR???!?!???? To get our permission to build a TJ's there, you must make the building 5 stories high and be filled with LOW-INCOME HOUSING that YOU, TJ's, must subsidize. Next: CARS ARE EVIL! And THERE'S NOWHERE TO PARK MY VOLVO ALREADY. Solution: TJ's must excavate and construct a large underground parking lot to accommodate all cars, so we don't have to see and acknowledge that they exist and that we drove them here. Next: TRAFFIC IS EVIL. So let's demand that the surrounding streets be all blocked off and converted to one-way and all sorts of other kookiness because city planning and community. Then the NIMBY's had their turn: YOU ARE A BUM MAGNET, what with your dumpsters filled with tasty and tempting discarded expired food and all. Demand: All dumpsters must padlocked and also secured indoors because secure gates. Then came MINORITY EMPLOYMENT and MINIMUM WAGE REQUIREMENTS and on and on. Etc. etc. etc. At huge expense, TJ's caved and satisfied all demands. Guess what? it paid off. That new TJ's is PACKED constantly with the same people shopping there that had tried to stop it.

Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2014 10:17 AM (+cx5n)

259 This gives them cache with the shoppers who recognize these name brands trendy designers. It is a clever strategy. Yeah, but lately I can get the same quality (minus some quasi-famous name) for about 75% of the price at Walmart.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 10:17 AM (PYAXX)

260 The US still manufactures a LOT of things. You would be surprised by the wide variety of things that are still manufactured here. Don't believe the hype about everything being outsourced. It is just not true. By the same token manufacturing employment (total number of people employed) -- last time I checked -- was at the same level as the 1930's 'Great Depression'. Just a guess, but I'd venture we were a nation of about 125 million then, and about 315 million now. Some of the 'failure to thrive' is due to increases in productivity, robotics, etc. but not all. The biggest shock was when Clinton/Pelosi pushed for China to receive 'permanent' most favored trade status. Last time I checked, years ago, 57,000 American factories had closed their doors in the 10 years after the ink dried on that one-sided 'deal'.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 25, 2014 10:17 AM (CnA98)

261

>>>>Target has nicer and cleaner stores and higher prices but

 

... they don't carry anything I want, so fuck em. Srsly, whoever buys for their men's dept should be fired.

Posted by: Bigby's Miniature-Painting Hands at February 25, 2014 10:18 AM (3ZtZW)

262 242 I thought K-Mart went tits up? Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 02:14 PM (mIAI5) ********** Na...I know some real assholes in corporate. Based in Chicago--so ya.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 10:18 AM (RJMhd)

263 Target is HQ'd in MN. It used to be Dayton Hudson Corp. If that name sounds familiar it's because our pill and booze addled Gov. Is Mark Dayton. He inherited his Money off of Daddy's dough. So he got to buy an election as a shiny plaything. Dems hate rich people unless it's one of their rich people.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 25, 2014 10:18 AM (bXdYS)

264 Target has nicer and cleaner stores Not in the Western half of DFW.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 10:18 AM (PYAXX)

265 The US still manufactures a LOT of things. You would be surprised by the wide variety of things that are still manufactured here.

Menards does a "Made in the USA" sale every few months, and even though I don't need to buy doors or toilets or boat covers or bricks for retaining walls, it's fun to read the circular because they list the city and state each sale product is made in.

I was shocked to learn things are still manufactured in Illinois only because I thought everyone with a decent income would have fled to Texas by now.

Posted by: HR, watching scripts run at February 25, 2014 10:19 AM (ZKzrr)

266 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 02:16 PM (PYAXX) The one's that cost suppliers money and/or harm them. See: Huffy. Also forcing suppliers to RFID things was a dick move. Here's the thing though. Walmart had gotten too big and was getting ready to go into decline because it had lost touch with the American consumer in some respects, but then the economic shit set in and people needed cheap stuff again. Look back around 2005-2006 "death of Walmart" articles abound.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 10:19 AM (hq5sb)

267 Mike Rowe is badass. Has the ability to appeal to centrists, seems to not care much about the fringes. I'd recruit him for prez if it were possible, a real common sense guy. (I'm ultra-conservatives, but our dogs don't hunt no more, sadly). At this point I'd take a middle-of-the-road guy provided he would simply do what he says he's gonna do. Ever see Mike Rowe speak, like at Boy Scout Jamoboree? Half hour or more, off the cuff, no teleprompter. Fan-damn-tastic. Former Eagle Scout too, I think. Mike Rowe would be a far better candidate than Hillary or any RINO in the wings. I propose a new party called Mike and The Mechanics. Just a bunch of guys who know how to fix the giant machine that is the USA.

Posted by: FritzB at February 25, 2014 10:19 AM (I2IdM)

268 --btw you almost have to love K-Mart if you are in Key West--it's about the only gig in town.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 10:19 AM (RJMhd)

269 I wonder how Mike Rowe would do in Piers Morgan's slot.

Posted by: Passably Affable at February 25, 2014 02:06 PM (/YzPM)

 

 

 

Mike  Rowe  doesn't  swing  that  way,  Poofter  Morgan  will  have  to  look  somewhere  else. 

Posted by: Mike Rowe at February 25, 2014 10:19 AM (rXcBX)

270 I haven't seen a K-Mart that was open for business in about 3 years.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 10:21 AM (mIAI5)

271 Caldor, now that was a sketchy store. I hated going there without even knowing why. I think maybe they pioneered the selling of mass market Chinese junk that mimicked the stuff made by decent companies and I could sense the shoddiness in the air.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 10:21 AM (ZshNr)

272 I have no illusions about him being a "conservative," but he's an eloquent principled high profile guy who is willing to engage with "us," so very valuable thing to cultivate, imho. Posted by: Y-not at February 25, 2014 01:31 PM (zDsvJ)

He was on Beck's radio show the other day; it was kind if delightful, very easygoing banter between them, cracking jokes about a lot of things. They had him do voiceovers for fake ads I think, joked he should just do ads for everything and it would sell. I could listen to Mike's velvety voice all day so I agree, mmmmmmm...

And I think he was on Hannity's show this week, or something? Since that completely trashes your street cred with the uber libs he can't be ALL that left. HE strikes me as libertarian/pragmatarian, if the latter is even a word.

Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2014 10:21 AM (BF+2f)

273 Look, Earth, just explode already, please?  There's no fixing this.

Posted by: Null at February 25, 2014 10:22 AM (P7hip)

274 Mike Rowe listens to Armstrong and Getty. I doubt he is a true lefty, and his exposure to pols and the press will move him right quickly.

Posted by: sexypig at February 25, 2014 10:22 AM (dZQh7)

275 Speaking of work. I received a call today from a company within my industry, looking for a contractor for a project. Better yet, after speaking with me, they said they might have a permanent position opening up. Can't stop smiling.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 25, 2014 10:22 AM (DmNpO)

276 I wonder how Mike Rowe would do in Piers Morgan's slot. Posted by: Passably Affable at February 25, 2014 02:06 PM (/YzPM) Mike Rowe doesn't swing that way, Poofter Morgan will have to look somewhere else. ISWYDT. Well played. Golf. Clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 10:22 AM (p9JxP)

277

Yeah, but lately I can get the same quality (minus some quasi-famous name) for about 75% of the price at Walmart.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 02:17 PM (PYAXX)

 

Name Brands at Target and Wal Mart in MN are about the same price (w/i 2-10 cents).  A LOT of the time, Target is cheaper.  And add in the 5% discount. 

Posted by: rd at February 25, 2014 10:22 AM (D+lxs)

278 The one's that cost suppliers money and/or harm them. See: Huffy. You'll have to give me details on that one. Last I checked, if it were too expensive (read: the contract was costing me money) to do business with Walmart, I didn't have to do business with Walmart. And, yes, Walmart has lost suppliers and contractors for just that reason. They may be the 800lb gorilla, but they're not the Government. Also forcing suppliers to RFID things was a dick move. It was "a dick move" which saved the suppliers AND Walmart's competitors money. So you'll excuse me if I don't much care that it was "a dick move," given the positive effects its had in the economy (see my previous point re: if the 'requirements' are really costing more than the contract is worth).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 10:22 AM (PYAXX)

279 Mike Rowe is a hero. Of course he has no nose or olfactory senses, but he's still a hero.

Posted by: Iblis at February 25, 2014 10:22 AM (9221z)

280 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 02:18 PM (PYAXX) Dunno what it is, but here the walmarts seem to have harsh lighting and dirty floors. Target is only marginally better, but it is better. The last few things I got from Walmart fell apart quickly. Granted they were cheap, but I was buying baselayer for hunting, so I ended up having to rebuy the next year (and just got better stuff from Cabellas or Bass pro, I forget where.) Doesn't mean I won't shop there, I still shop at Sam's.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 10:23 AM (hq5sb)

281 Rowe is also a big champion of the trades which is a threat the the Dem Academic Complex that need to keep selling kids on worthless degrees.

Posted by: Vote Lord Humungus 2016 at February 25, 2014 10:23 AM (HEa5q)

282

275: "Can't stop smiling."

 

Congratulations, and good luck.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 25, 2014 10:23 AM (f6ZLT)

283 Can't stop smiling. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 25, 2014 02:22 PM (DmNpO)

And rightfully so. Congrats!

Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2014 10:23 AM (BF+2f)

284 Congrats and good luck.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 10:24 AM (ZshNr)

285 #275 Can't stop smiling. Best of luck, man!

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 25, 2014 10:24 AM (7ObY1)

286 Gentrification -- when upper-upper middle class professionals threaten to move to a neighborhood filled with the idle adult children of the upper middle class.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 25, 2014 10:24 AM (ZPrif)

287 Not in the Western half of DFW.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 02:18 PM (PYAXX)


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Those are Targhettos.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2014 10:25 AM (nELVU)

288 270 I haven't seen a K-Mart that was open for business in about 3 years. Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 02:21 PM (mIAI5) *********** Key West. Seriously--that's the only one I almost had to shop at. As for corporate being assholes--I know they were assholes from the start. So it's not a chicken or egg thing. Plus Chicago--that should about seal it.

Posted by: tasker at February 25, 2014 10:25 AM (RJMhd)

289 Oh, on the "Good Job News" front- My lodger starts a job tomorrow! Yay! I think we finally convinced her that A job is better than NO job- and no one offering jobs that she wanted was going to offer a job to a 21 yr old with no college (not even a semester), no experience, and no driver's license.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 10:26 AM (PYAXX)

290 "F*ck your concerns" should be the new reply to all leftard concerns. I was listening to Hannitty briefly yesterday and he more or less politely did this with a caller. It was a seminar caller basically calling those who are against Obamacare "bad Americans", etc. Hannitty went over his roster of Obama's lies on Ocare. And the guy started whining that he wanted a discussion of his beliefs and concerns. Hannitty repeated the Ocare lies, then basically told him to eff off. I was surprised because Hannitty thrives on this kind of argument. But, I guess even he's realized there's no longer any point to pretending that these clowns have a true belief system other than they should get your money and control you. Ridicule and F*ck your concerns. are my new default position. I don't care about their widdle feewings any more. (Previously, it was just ridicule.)

Posted by: naturalfake at February 25, 2014 10:26 AM (0cMkb)

291 Yeah, I don't care much about Rowe's "Buy American" stuff. I think that's bad economics. But I'm very pro his "Honor in Trades" and support of skilled manual labor. He's basically trying to restore respect when the dominant media culture says if you don't work in an office for a living then you are a loser.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 25, 2014 10:26 AM (ZPrif)

292 Rowe is also a big champion of the trades...


How you doin'?

Posted by: Union Thug at February 25, 2014 10:26 AM (tv7DV)

293 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 02:22 PM (PYAXX) IIRC eventually Walmart backed off the RFID stuff. It benefited them, but not the suppliers. As for huffy, they had several problems, but one of the big ones was that Walmart is the largest market for bikes. And Walmart was big enough they could basically set the price. Even oursourcing to china, Huffy couldn't make a profit on the bikes relative to what Walmart wanted to pay, so instead they went broke.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 10:26 AM (hq5sb)

294 WALMART has ammo. Sometimes. And cheap clothes. Always.

Posted by: Erowmero at February 25, 2014 10:27 AM (OONaw)

295 270 I haven't seen a K-Mart that was open for business in about 3 years. There's one of their "Big K" stores still open near me, though I can't imagine how it's still open. Filthy store, ridiculously high prices, surly ghetto employees, never more than two registers open. And Wal-Mart, Target, Sam's Club, Hobby Lobby and a huge mall all within short walking distance of it. I don't see how K-Mart's hanging on, but it can't last much longer.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 25, 2014 10:27 AM (7ObY1)

296 "Which business practices would those be? The ones that save their competitors and suppliers a ton of money in logistics? Or the ones that save their customers time and money? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 02:16 PM (PYAXX)" To me it's more of a complicated mess... yes, they save us money, and they maybe save us time, and their may be other benefits. But there are also costs associated with this, and on a philosophical level, it's difficult to justify spending extra money (in a losing battle most likely), to keep the US factories humming. My belief is that it's a lot of out of site out of mind type stuff going on. Yes I spent less for my mexican levi's and chinese television, and now I have more money to spend on a fancy vacation. This seems like a good thing, but hidden away, there is an effect that is maybe not so good. I have always been bad at articulating this, I am absolutely a 100% free market capitalist, but I have been called a commie for trying to convey the idea that businesses should restrain themselves, for the long term health of the communities they serve (restrain themsevles is the key, I want nothing to do with govt. intervention), the problem if you say, "hey I will sell the jean for $5 more a pair so the factory in the next state doesn't get mothballed and production goes to china", the store across the interstate will go ahead and do it anyway, so you lose business, the factory closes anyway, and you have accomplished nothing. As I said more a philosophical complaint than anything, I do admire the companies that say no though, like Snapper. I couldn't wait to go buy a snapper mower when I bought my first house.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at February 25, 2014 10:27 AM (n/ogz)

297 204 I was thirty years old before I ever stepped foot in a WalMart. They just didn't exist in my part of Massachusetts. Some girl at college in Ohio accused me of being a liar and a snob for saying that I'd never been in a Wal-Mart back in 1989. I was like, WTF are you talking about? I'd been inside a KMart, but that wasn't good enough. Posted by: Lincolntf Many Americans who live in "Walmart country" don't realize that Walmart is not everywhere. There are large Walmart-free zones in various parts of the country. I somehow lived my life without ever passing through Walmart-space. Not just the regions of the country, but the areas and neighborhoods within each city or region. It's possible. I did it without even realizing that I was leading a Walmart-avoidant lifestyle. To be completely frank, I was so unfamiliar with Walmart until the recent leftist conspiracy theories about them of the last decade that I got confused about the difference, if any, between Walgreen's Wall Drug, and Walmart. Seriously. I somehow vaguely knew the name but lazily assumed that there was a store that started as a local drugstore in South Dakota, got big and famous, became a national chain which they dubbed Walgreen's, and then branched out to general retail with a sub-chain called Walmart. All of this taking place in Flyover Country, which I never visit, and which therefore is of little concern to me. Yes, I was that provincial.

Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2014 10:27 AM (+cx5n)

298 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 25, 2014 02:26 PM (PYAXX) Feel free to tell her that no one offering jobs I want is willing to offer a job to a person with a PhD(c), several years work experience, and a flexible schedule .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 25, 2014 10:28 AM (hq5sb)

299 Of course. DRUDGE REPORT ‏@DRUDGE_REPORT Small Banks Disappearing Under Dodd-Frank... http://drudge.tw/1mwG02c

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 25, 2014 10:28 AM (ZPrif)

300

Whatever happened to Burger King?

The Whopper used to be pretty good, then it turned to shit.

 

Microwaves.  Remember "flame broiled is better than fried"?   Well, it is.  The BKs of my yute had conveyor belt grills that went over flames and popped out tasty burgers.  You had to wait a little to get your Whopper sometimes because they had to flame thrower it. 

 

These days, if they still flame broil them at all it must be at a facility in Kansas, whence they ship them to your local BK to be nuked to order. 

 

The whole world is going to shit.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 25, 2014 10:28 AM (A0sHn)

301 speaking of tribalism and speaking of Trader Joe's. .. I got a good look at a miserable Leftist twit the other day in the parking lot. Sure enough she gets into her Honda suv adorned with the following stickers: Elizabeth Warren...Obama 2012...and the best one: NOT A REPUBLICAN Ever see these bumper stickers? They're for the Biggest douche bags among the Leftists who want everyone to know i) who they hate, ii) who they accept, and iii) they're in the In Group

Posted by: soothi with justice at February 25, 2014 10:29 AM (YCQeq)

302 Good Luck with that NDH.

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 10:29 AM (mIAI5)

303 And Walmart was big enough they could basically set the price. Even oursourcing to china, Huffy couldn't make a profit on the bikes relative to what Walmart wanted to pay, so instead they went broke. WM does that with a lot of items.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 10:29 AM (p9JxP)

304 Thanks!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 25, 2014 10:29 AM (DmNpO)

305 I have a K-Mart not too far from me either, and it is pretty much about as you describe it. I remember as a teenybopper finding my local K-Mart to actually have some cool stuff. It has fallen so far(I think they have been in Chpt.11 once or twice) and they are truly awful now. Weren't they owned by Sears at one time and then spun off, to die a long, lingering death?

Posted by: Jen at February 25, 2014 10:30 AM (XkXzn)

306 I don't see how K-Mart's hanging on, but it can't last much longer.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 25, 2014 02:27 PM (7ObY1)


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There is a functioning K-Mart literally three blocks away from where I live.    We go there for convenience shopping, like.... "making omelettes and... dammit... Im out of cheese" situations. 


There is never a wait.... cuz nobody shops there.   I dont know how it stays open.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 25, 2014 10:30 AM (nELVU)

307 I worked at a Caldor in New Yuck.

When all the discussion is about how evil a company is to  its employees I think of Caldor. No they weren't a great place to work but the store I was at was being murdered by the employees. Security once gathered all the opened packages which had been emptied by employees in a storage area and left the pile there for all to see. It was a pile the size of a standard kiddie pool and about 6 inches deep.

Meanwhile I was doing in an 8 hour shift what the company had listed as a separate full time and  a part time job. Not because I am superman but because what they expected out of unionized New Yuckers was so pitiful. Most of the rest were not finishing even the little that was expected of them during their shifts.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 25, 2014 10:30 AM (IVgIK)

308 friggin nood

Posted by: soothi with justice at February 25, 2014 10:32 AM (YCQeq)

309 I don't see how K-Mart's hanging on, but it can't last much longer. Follow the money. Tax write off for the parent company.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 25, 2014 10:32 AM (p9JxP)

310 "Microwaves. Remember "flame broiled is better than fried"? Well, it is." That must be it. Come to think about it, you used to be able to smell the burgers cooking from a few blocks away back then. Now, not so much.

Posted by: jwest at February 25, 2014 10:32 AM (u2a4R)

311 The Kmart by us is where the "People of Walmart" go when they don't want to dress up.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 25, 2014 10:32 AM (IVgIK)

312 Caldor! I have super fond memories of Cassette Tapes in super long Cardboard Packages and a Color Coded Price System. Permeated by the odor of a Big, Soft Hot Pretzel!

Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2014 10:34 AM (mIAI5)

313 I use Walmart as part of good natured hazing on the golf course. After you hit your drive way past your playing partner you strike up a conversation on the way to your balls. Me: you hear they're building a new WalMart? Him: really. Where at? Me: between my ball and your ball.

Posted by: See You Next Tuesday at February 25, 2014 10:34 AM (DAevm)

314 >>> Many Americans who live in "Walmart country" don't realize that Walmart is not everywhere. There are large Walmart-free zones in various parts of the country. Posted by: zombie at February 25, 2014 02:27 PM (+cx5n)

There are none in the NYC area that I know of; just getting a Target store in the area was, for the NYC libs, tantamount to murdering the spirit of the city. Never mind they help low income ppl get decent goods at low prices. There are Targets in the Bronx and in Harlem, that I know of, not sure if any others were permitted to be built.

Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2014 10:37 AM (BF+2f)

315 So employees were just stealing stuff and leaving the packaging behind? Nice. I worked with a guy who stole from the grocery store we tended to the Produce at, hated him. Never turned him in, we were 17, but I went out of my way to call him a thief whenever we were outside of work, and made it harder for him to get away with it while we were at work. He would do shit to distract a manager, like rip open a packaged fruit plate so he'd have to go back and rewrap it, I'd jump in and offer to wrap it myself, fouling his opportunity for whatever petty theft he had planned.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 10:37 AM (ZshNr)

316 The 'signaling' of saying 'we are going to buy American products' provides an incentive for manufactures to invest in their facilities.  Unfortunately, with effective corporate tax rates around 30%, the US is still uncompetitive from a capital investment standpoint.  Lower it to 15% and watch the manufacturing job market spring to life....

Posted by: phreshone at February 25, 2014 10:43 AM (Q6pxP)

317 Well Lincoln I didn't get the chance to foil any of the thieve but I did get accused of being a "cop" since I was of a paler shade than the majority of my coworkers.


Most of the people there had other jobs but were there for a little pocket money. There was one older guy that I really liked who owned a restaurant. When he stopped coming to work I asked what happened? He was caught stealing. I felt really stupid because I had spoken with him about how I couldn't understand all the theft and why people risked getting caught just to add a few dollars to what they already where being paid.





Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 25, 2014 10:43 AM (IVgIK)

318 Walmart put a lot of US plants out of business...  Now they are realizing that a lot of stuff made in China (especially if its supposed to be stainless steel) is crap

Posted by: phreshone at February 25, 2014 10:44 AM (Q6pxP)

319 People suck, and are often idiots.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 25, 2014 10:46 AM (ZshNr)

320 Lincoln, were you one of those who was kind enough to give me travel advice about Fla?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 25, 2014 10:46 AM (IVgIK)

321 The closest Walmart to NYC is in White Plains, in an old Sears store, across from the City Center Mall. Its a pit. There's some Targets in Brooklyn and Queens too. I like the story about the Walmart that opened up a block outside of Chicago's city limits because the libs wouldn't let them in the city. They had 100x the applicants for jobs openings.

Posted by: Iblis at February 25, 2014 10:47 AM (9221z)

322 I liked Rowe's crap about how every time he did a dirty job, he'd stop at Walmart to buy "clothes we could wreck" and would leave them in the bathtub for the maid with an apology note.

Posted by: Iblis at February 25, 2014 10:49 AM (9221z)

323 Pointe shoes are made in the US.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 25, 2014 10:52 AM (yE8uc)

324 Keep in mind that "Look for the union label" was a song by a union that managed to drive its entire industry out of the US.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 25, 2014 11:05 AM (T0NGe)

325 321 The closest Walmart to NYC is in White Plains, in an old Sears store, across from the City Center Mall. Its a pit. There's some Targets in Brooklyn and Queens too. I like the story about the Walmart that opened up a block outside of Chicago's city limits because the libs wouldn't let them in the city. They had 100x the applicants for jobs openings. The Black Friday Wal-mart riots are almost all in Wal-marts just outside of a big city that doesn't permit them within the city limits.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 25, 2014 11:06 AM (T0NGe)

326

Man Crush!

Rowe is awesome on all levels.

Posted by: Max Entropy at February 25, 2014 11:12 AM (cgtTL)

327 related:
Ukrainian citizens and gun owners are demanding their own Second Amendment in the countryÂ’s constitution.

Piers Morgan hardest hit.

ht gateway pundit

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2014 11:15 AM (n0DEs)

328 oops wrong thread.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2014 11:20 AM (n0DEs)

329 related:
Ukrainian citizens and gun owners are demanding their own Second Amendment in the countryÂ’s constitution.

Piers Morgan hardest hit.

ht gateway pundit

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 25, 2014 11:21 AM (n0DEs)

330 His point is: take pride in your work, WHATEVER it is. Just like Dr. ML King said. If you going to be a street sweeper, be the best street sweeper the world has ever seen (or something like that)

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at February 25, 2014 11:50 AM (9Bdcz)

331 @290: I don't care about their widdle feewings any more.

I've taken to using Larry Correia's phrase: "Delicate lilac scented feelings."

Posted by: NR Pax at February 25, 2014 12:11 PM (ODsL5)

332 Fruminous @ 300-
Flame-broiled was better? In Texas, we have What-A-Burgers, the gold standard of burgers. And breakfasts, too! And in little towns like Arp, we have hole-in-the-wall Mamas places that are better than any common chain joint.

Posted by: Erowmero at February 25, 2014 01:45 PM (OONaw)

333

I am late to this thread and I bet this will not get read but I am confused and I just want the TRUTH. This quote comes from a Blaze article written BEFORE the CBS article and in fact is linked to in the CBS article

from here

http://tinyurl.com/klawrka

Sounds pretty straightforward, right? Well, not according to some people who reached out to Rowe. And in what we’ve come to expect from the former “Dirty Jobs” host and hard-work heralder, he didn’t sit back and take it. He took to his Facebook page Sunday with a lengthy, Q&A-style response.

“Honestly Kevin, who gives a crap about your feelings toward Walmart?” Rowe asked one man who questioned Rowe’s decision to partner with Walmart, often a major target of those who like to demonize business

So it looks like CBS was correct.

ace can you respond?

Posted by: anon at February 25, 2014 01:55 PM (DEsFp)

334 @333: Anon, did you notice that The Blaze put the whole quote up there?

Posted by: NR Pax at February 25, 2014 02:25 PM (oDCMR)

335

Yes, and that quote is what Aimee used, and she was correct.  She said

". Rowe then threw a bucket of fuel on the fire by writing on his Facebook page in response to one consumer, "Who gives a crap about your feelings toward Walmart?""

and that is accurate according to Rowe himself on the first Blaze article, then he reverses himself.

Posted by: anon at February 25, 2014 06:13 PM (DEsFp)

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