March 28, 2014
— Ace This is the pinnacle.
Celebrating Another Phony Obamacare MilestoneBy David Hogberg
This week, the Department of Health and Human Services reported that enrollment in the ObamaCare exchanges had reached 6 million.
...There are still plenty of things we don’t know about enrollment, which makes today’s announcement highly suspect. The most important question is: how many people have not paid their first premium? The New York Times reports that number may be as high as 20 percent. If so, then true enrollment would be closer to 4.8 million. This matters if for no other reason than it allows the Administration to claim success. If the true number is 6 million, then Administration lackeys will say, “Hey, look how close we got to 7 million.” However, if it’s under 5 million, they won’t have much to cheer about. Indeed, it’s fodder for critics. Although it’s pretty clear that the Administration has this information, don’t count on them releasing it, especially if it isn’t good. Rather, will have to wait until insurers start releasing their numbers.
Another important matter we donÂ’t know is how many persons who were previously uninsured have signed up on the exchanges. Estimates vary from 10 percent to 35 percent. If we assume that there are 6 million enrollees (based on the previous paragraph, thatÂ’s a very generous assumption), then the number of uninsured who now have coverage via the exchanges ranges from 600,000 to 2.1 million.
Actually, depending on how many of those who had their insurance cancelled choose to now remain uninsured, Hogberg figures Obamacare could actually be a "wash" -- net zero -- as far providing coverage to the population. If those who had insurance, and who are now going without, equal that number the uninsured now insured (or "insured"), then Obamacare would have had a net zero impact on the population of the insured.
Except, of course, for creating a constituency of dependents for Obama.
Just a lesson for all of you:
With hard work, with grit and guts: you too can fake great things. All it takes is a bit of brio, a pliant media, and an HHS Secretary who doesn't know any of the numbers except the ones she's come to advertise.
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Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 28, 2014 08:38 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 08:38 AM (PYAXX)
Using Obamacare math, I am now 20 lbs lighter than I was last year.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at March 28, 2014 08:38 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 08:40 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: ParisParamus (@ParisParamus) at March 28, 2014 08:40 AM (CHxj6)
Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 28, 2014 08:40 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at March 28, 2014 08:40 AM (hpgw1)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 08:41 AM (47IEJ)
Would I lie to you.....
Would I lie to you honey.
Now would I say something that wasnt tru
Im asking you sugar .... would I Li-i-i-i-i-i-ie to you.....
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2014 08:42 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: ParisParamus (@ParisParamus) at March 28, 2014 08:42 AM (CHxj6)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 08:42 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2014 08:42 AM (ndIek)
Posted by: Mr. Powerstroke Super Duty 4X4 King Ranch Edition at March 28, 2014 08:43 AM (LSJmV)
Obama Administration reach Milestone of Forcing Under Penalty of Law 6 Million Into Exchanges.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 28, 2014 08:43 AM (IV4od)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 08:43 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: IrishEd at March 28, 2014 08:44 AM (bfm04)
buy it again at a HIGHER cost...Ich danke dir Obama!! When will they
ever get called out on the fabrications/adjustments/lies, hmm?
Posted by: Geezer der Mensch at March 28, 2014 08:44 AM (6aFlV)
Posted by: Joshua Smithsen at March 28, 2014 08:44 AM (TC8sE)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 08:44 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Al Gore and Barack obama at March 28, 2014 08:44 AM (Ls+QM)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 28, 2014 08:44 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2014 08:44 AM (ndIek)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 08:44 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: X at March 28, 2014 08:45 AM (KHo8t)
Posted by: ExSnipe at March 28, 2014 08:45 AM (LKJt3)
Posted by: ParisParamus (@ParisParamus) at March 28, 2014 08:45 AM (CHxj6)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 08:45 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at March 28, 2014 08:45 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 28, 2014 08:45 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Joshua Smithsen at March 28, 2014 12:44 PM (TC8sE)
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Yup.....
.... provided ..... of course..... they're not just making shit up out of whole cloth.... then rounding up.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2014 08:45 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 08:46 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: phreshone at March 28, 2014 08:46 AM (kFxpe)
Why the fuckity-fuck would we fucking do that?
This administration has never demonstrated the smallest amount of integrity. You would have to be a flaming asshole to take anything they offer at face value.
Fuck that fucking fuck.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 28, 2014 08:46 AM (AA6QE)
Posted by: Al Gore and Barack obama at March 28, 2014 08:46 AM (Ls+QM)
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 28, 2014 08:46 AM (rXcBX)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 08:46 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 28, 2014 08:47 AM (HsTG8)
+100 Dack
And then the shit will hit the second fan
Posted by: phreshone at March 28, 2014 08:47 AM (kFxpe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 28, 2014 08:47 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: ParisParamus (@ParisParamus) at March 28, 2014 12:45 PM (CHxj6)
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Sebelius - "565,325 "Heywood Jablowme's???""
Barrack - "Count em."
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2014 08:47 AM (nELVU)
Ace wrote, "With hard work, with grit and guts: you too can fake great things. All it takes is a bit of brio, a pliant media, and a Health and Human Services Secretary who doesn't know any of the numbers except the ones she's come to advertise."
I love the word 'brio' but never seem to find the opportunity to use it in a sentence, kind of like Darryl Hannah's character in the second Kill Bill movie with the word 'gargantuan'.
Posted by: troyriser at March 28, 2014 08:47 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: Misanthopic Humanitarian at March 28, 2014 08:48 AM (HVff2)
I think an even more important question is have many are still paying after 6 months? Especially those that aren't eligible for subsidies or have a medical condition that makes paying the premiums worth it.
Posted by: George Orwell at March 28, 2014 08:48 AM (Vv4Go)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 08:48 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: The GOP at March 28, 2014 08:49 AM (C85dX)
"Except, of course, for creating a constituency of dependents for Obama."
And, that was the whole point of this, wasn't it? Any proposal the GOP has to repeal of replace Obam,acare will be met with: and put millions of people out of Medicaid????
Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at March 28, 2014 08:49 AM (Z7PrM)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 28, 2014 08:49 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 28, 2014 08:49 AM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, Always the Voice of Well-reasoned Concern at March 28, 2014 08:49 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 28, 2014 08:50 AM (P1Tw6)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 08:50 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 08:50 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Pug-De-Da! at March 28, 2014 08:50 AM (vFh9Q)
Posted by: Gwen Paltrow at March 28, 2014 08:51 AM (Aif/5)
Filet-O-Fish
So ridiculicious
Filet-O-Fish
We are craving crave-o-licious
Filet-O-Fish
Much more than delicious
It's Filet-O-Fish delicious
Posted by: john01 at March 28, 2014 08:52 AM (ukNFU)
Posted by: Moon Unit Zappa at March 28, 2014 08:52 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Bueler? Bueler? at March 28, 2014 08:52 AM (fvZcg)
Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2014 08:53 AM (4+AaH)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 08:53 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: AMDG at March 28, 2014 08:53 AM (eFytx)
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 28, 2014 08:53 AM (l2max)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 28, 2014 08:53 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: phreshone
Amigo, Imma gonna stop you right there. They do.
They just don't care.
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 28, 2014 08:53 AM (AA6QE)
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee or Maxine Waters I Can't Remember Who at March 28, 2014 08:54 AM (hHFOx)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 28, 2014 08:54 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 28, 2014 08:54 AM (UyYYt)
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2014 08:54 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 08:55 AM (g1DWB)
what's to stop congress from getting the numbers themselves? I'm talking about litterally showing up to the HHS offices, going to the cubicles of the DB admins and demanding to run some SQL queries of this data? What's to stop them? Being a member if congress, don't they have a right to go anywhere and see anything in the federal government?
No. FYNQ.
Posted by: Lois Lerner at March 28, 2014 08:55 AM (JtwS4)
It was as if millions of voices cried out and then....kept crying out
Posted by: The Jackhole at March 28, 2014 08:55 AM (nTgAI)
Yes, she really said this.
Posted by: Pug-De-Da! at March 28, 2014 12:50 PM (vFh9Q)
Holy lack of self-awareness, Batman!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2014 08:55 AM (DrWcr)
At least 600 hundred billion people have signed up!
Posted by: Al Gore at March 28, 2014 08:56 AM (78TbK)
Posted by: Kathleen Sebelieus at March 28, 2014 08:56 AM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 08:56 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 08:56 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Pug-De-Da! at March 28, 2014 12:50 PM (vFh9Q)
Holy lack of self-awareness, Batman!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2014 12:55 PM (DrWcr)
14 hour days in Paris filming a movie = First World problems.
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2014 08:56 AM (GQ8sn)
DCCC @dccc
BREAKING: #ACA hits 6 MILLION enrolled!!! pic.twitter.com/SsIFkqSEw2
Pic worth the click, as long as you don't have high blood pressure.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 28, 2014 08:57 AM (kdS6q)
"Harumpf! Harumpf!"
Kathleen, "I didn't hear a harumpf from that guy!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 08:57 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at March 28, 2014 08:57 AM (pgQxn)
***
Who knew picking which see through dress you are wearing to your next big party was such a hard job?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 28, 2014 08:57 AM (78TbK)
Posted by: joeindc44 at March 28, 2014 08:57 AM (+JbYP)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 08:58 AM (gOoFi)
When a musician thinks you are out-of-touch, you might have a self-awareness problem
Posted by: phreshone at March 28, 2014 08:58 AM (kFxpe)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 28, 2014 08:58 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 08:58 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 28, 2014 08:58 AM (oMKp3)
***
If you work with Obama he will take care of you. If you work against him he and his allies will destroy you....so it isn't surprising to see B list celebrities getting the message.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 28, 2014 08:58 AM (78TbK)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 28, 2014 12:57 PM (kdS6q)
I hate the JEF's smarmy grin.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2014 08:58 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 08:59 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2014 08:59 AM (4+AaH)
DHS IT guy - "We have 1.5 million"
DHS Supervisor - "About 2 million"
DHS Underscretary "Halfway to Five Million"
Kathleen Sebelius "Five Million??.... Thats AWESOME"
POTUS - Well.... there's always a few that slip thru the cracks. "6 MILLION ENROLLED!!!"
Posted by: fixerupper at March 28, 2014 08:59 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: UWP at March 28, 2014 08:59 AM (KAmBO)
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2014 12:54 PM (GQ8sn)
Show some integrity and rspect for the maths:
5,000,001 rounded up is 6,000,000!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2014 08:59 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 28, 2014 09:00 AM (GjPnA)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 09:00 AM (7ObY1)
Are they counting the ones that got enrolled in Medicaid, whether they wanted it or not?
Posted by: HR Go Cyclones! at March 28, 2014 09:00 AM (ZKzrr)
5,000,001 rounded up is 6,000,000!
Posted by: Hrothgar at March 28, 2014 12:59 PM (o3MSL)
Common Core FTW!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2014 09:00 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 28, 2014 09:00 AM (78TbK)
Posted by: Goebbels at March 28, 2014 09:01 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 12:59 PM (7ObY1)
Something happened to her voice. I remember when she sounded like she had a normal voice and not something so hoarse like she had just spent the last hour screaming at a concert.
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2014 09:01 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 28, 2014 09:01 AM (CGjum)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 28, 2014 09:01 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 28, 2014 09:01 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 28, 2014 09:02 AM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Doodad Pro at March 28, 2014 09:02 AM (78TbK)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at March 28, 2014 09:02 AM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 28, 2014 09:02 AM (ZshNr)
I wonder how many of these "six million" are sock-puppet sign-ups: that is, phony signups generated by 'bots.
Does that sound too brazen to be possible? If so, I ask: is *anything* too brazen for the regime?
Posted by: Brown Line at March 28, 2014 09:03 AM (VrNoa)
Posted by: wytshus at March 28, 2014 09:03 AM (DErq5)
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 28, 2014 01:01 PM (CGjum)
Somebody's got to pay for their tuberculosis treatment, after all.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2014 09:03 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at March 28, 2014 09:03 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 09:03 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 28, 2014 09:04 AM (aDwsi)
Did you know in the old days at Hollywood when the studios owned their stars, 20 hour days were seen. Even Judy Garland got hit by those type days.
So Gwen how is you choosing to star in a movie with long shoots even comparable to the old studio days.
Go prance around while your expensive personal chef fixes up your expensive locally bought organic lunch.
Meanwhile real Moms will be fixing sandwiches and helping their children.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:04 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 09:04 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Reggie Love at March 28, 2014 09:04 AM (vHRtU)
Oh yes, Ms Paltrow works very hard. She tries to remind me what to cook most nights. And she even tries to at least say hi to her maid once a week...as long at she doesn't look Ms Paltrow in the eyes. She really doesn't like that.
Posted by: Paltrow's Chef at March 28, 2014 09:04 AM (78TbK)
GA House Dem Caucus @GAHouseDems
8.5 million private sector jobs have been created since the Affordable Care Act was enacted. #ACA
Oh what the heck, let's just round that up to 9 million. Ok, call it 10.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 28, 2014 09:05 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:05 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at March 28, 2014 09:05 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: St Sandra at March 28, 2014 09:05 AM (0FSuD)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:05 AM (BCTnr)
I've signed up for Obama Care 17,251 times.
It is like the dead voting democrat, I thought everyone knew that.
Posted by: The Obvious Sock at March 28, 2014 09:05 AM (W6iIX)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:06 AM (BCTnr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 28, 2014 09:06 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:07 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2014 09:07 AM (/vO0r)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 28, 2014 09:07 AM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 28, 2014 09:08 AM (ZPrif)
"Are they counting the ones that got enrolled in Medicaid, whether they wanted it or not?"
Yes.
Posted by: JackStraw
Nope. Per:
The numbers also don't include individuals who have enrolled in Medicaid, which was expanded in many states to individuals who earn up to 133 percent of the poverty level. They also don't count those who have purchased insurance directly from a private insurance company but will be included in the overall risk pool.
http://tinyurl.com/lf7ea4l
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 28, 2014 09:08 AM (kdS6q)
Hmm, "I submitted that change request with brio," just doesn't have the right tone to it.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:08 AM (IoTdl)
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2014 09:08 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Michael Corleone at March 28, 2014 09:08 AM (kFxpe)
Judy Murray, Mom of tennis ace Andy Murray, makes a habit of trolling yoko ono
Hours before, Ono had tweeted: 'Think PEACE, Act PEACE, Spread PEACE and tell your friends to IMAGINE PEACE'.
To which Murray, from Dunblane, replied: 'Mmm. Give us PEACE springs to mind'.
When Ono tweeted: 'Send a friend a photo that says "Smile" or a picture, a story or a piece of pie, but specify it's a smile ur passing on', Murray tweeted back: 'Yes dear'.
Posted by: thunderb at March 28, 2014 09:08 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2014 09:08 AM (/vO0r)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:08 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at March 28, 2014 09:09 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2014 09:09 AM (ndIek)
Posted by: RWC at March 28, 2014 09:09 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:09 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:10 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: thunderb at March 28, 2014 09:10 AM (zOTsN)
Planned Parenthood @ppvotesct
2014: the year of the #IUD? Thanks to #ACA women can get the contraception they need & want without cost sharing.
#Tramps
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 28, 2014 09:10 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 28, 2014 09:11 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 28, 2014 09:11 AM (ndIek)
They have no idea what "cost sharing" means.
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2014 09:11 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:11 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:11 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 09:11 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 28, 2014 09:12 AM (oMKp3)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 28, 2014 09:12 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 01:10 PM (7ObY1)
Now that's some funny shit right there.
Posted by: troyriser at March 28, 2014 09:12 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 09:12 AM (7ObY1)
OOoh yeah! I love carbonarra.
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2014 09:12 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:13 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2014 09:13 AM (dfYL9)
Heard the House Rep Leadership and 25 Rep
congressmen are heading to Amelia Island for conclave on how to beat back conservatives.
Perhaps next weekend.
Anybody out there know about this and/or the names of the 25?
Posted by: NCwoof at March 28, 2014 09:13 AM (aUQgu)
Posted by: HR Go Cyclones! at March 28, 2014 09:13 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:13 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 28, 2014 09:14 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 09:14 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 09:14 AM (7ObY1)
No matter how good of an idea it seems at the time, don't bring the date with on this one.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 01:13 PM (gOoFi)
Sometimes you need a spotter.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2014 09:14 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 09:14 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Moxie at March 28, 2014 09:15 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 28, 2014 09:15 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:15 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: thunderb at March 28, 2014 09:15 AM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:15 AM (IHAZk)
I call it the Daryl Hannah In Wall Street conundrum.
Yeah, tell me about it.
Posted by: Jackson Browne at March 28, 2014 09:15 AM (pgQxn)
Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2014 09:15 AM (4+AaH)
Daily Mail. Today.
Apparently it's a thing with some women to take multiple little poops during the day. So they're in and out in about the same time regardless of what they're doing in there.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:16 AM (o4Xc4)
WTFFSIT?
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 28, 2014 09:16 AM (AA6QE)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:16 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: thunderb at March 28, 2014 09:16 AM (zOTsN)
Titanic should be number one.
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2014 09:16 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2014 09:16 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 28, 2014 09:17 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:17 AM (gOoFi)
And the hourly employees who took a reduction in weekly hours still count as "have jobs" even with the up-to 27.5% cut in weekly wages.
Posted by: HR Go Cyclones! at March 28, 2014 09:17 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:17 AM (IHAZk)
So this same goverment that can build a NSA program to collect all Email's, phone calls, phone call content, tests, ect.
this same fookin government can't build a functional web page or one that can keep track of sign ups and who pays.......
right......
Posted by: The Obvious Sock at March 28, 2014 09:17 AM (W6iIX)
The number I want to see? How many of these actually went on Medicaid... and how many are getting a subsidy...
Posted by: Romeo13
FWIW:
Truthiest @tmtweetz
6.6 mill on exchange, 3 mill 26 kids on parents' plan, 10 mill on Mcaid exp. 20 mill ensured by #ACA.
But, then again -- "ensured"...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 28, 2014 09:17 AM (kdS6q)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 28, 2014 09:17 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2014 09:17 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:18 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:18 AM (BCTnr)
Posted by: RWC at March 28, 2014 09:18 AM (fWAjv)
I can't speak for the ettes, and maybe their intestines are different, but when I go I don't stop until it's all gone. I don't poop out a little piece, then pinch it off and save the rest for the next appointment in an hour. That just sounds highly inefficient.
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2014 09:18 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 28, 2014 09:18 AM (oMKp3)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:19 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 28, 2014 09:19 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:19 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 09:19 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: tangonine at March 28, 2014 09:19 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2014 09:19 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:20 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 28, 2014 09:20 AM (R5UOB)
Posted by: Pelosi Schmelosi at March 28, 2014 09:20 AM (jHf6U)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 09:20 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:20 AM (47IEJ)
I don't know about Rock People. Is that a nod towards Nephilim? Are we talking about The Thing type of rock people?
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:20 AM (o4Xc4)
In case no one else answered this: no.
Copays do not count toward your deductible.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 01:19 PM (PYAXX)
Then those high deductible family plans are suicidal.
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2014 09:20 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: RWC at March 28, 2014 09:20 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 28, 2014 09:20 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:21 AM (BCTnr)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at March 28, 2014 09:21 AM (P1Tw6)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:21 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: toby928© at March 28, 2014 09:21 AM (QupBk)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 28, 2014 09:21 AM (vHRtU)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 09:21 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: S. Muldoon at March 28, 2014 09:21 AM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2014 09:21 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Kimberly Clark at March 28, 2014 09:22 AM (R5UOB)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 09:22 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: tangonine at March 28, 2014 01:19 PM (x3YFz)
There's more money in drugs. Better hours, too.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2014 09:22 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Despair, Doom, Gloom and More at the Outrage Outlet! at March 28, 2014 09:22 AM (hLRSq)
Act like you've seen the end zone before.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 28, 2014 01:20 PM (gOoFi)<
Honey, I don't wanna brag but that was some of my best work right there.
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 28, 2014 09:22 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 09:22 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at March 28, 2014 09:22 AM (trIVV)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 28, 2014 09:23 AM (84gbM)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 28, 2014 09:23 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2014 09:24 AM (/vO0r)
I'm not seeing nearly enough "Why do I have to pay for this? I signed up for Obamacare!" stories.
I'm wondering if the people who have always gotten free shit on a state or local level are still getting the same free shit.
Posted by: HR Go Cyclones! at March 28, 2014 09:24 AM (ZKzrr)
Comments like that there are the reason that AoSHQ is ranked one of the top conservative sites on the web.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2014 09:24 AM (8ZskC)
Well you know
We don't love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate Obamacare
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait
Posted by: john lennon redux at March 28, 2014 09:24 AM (omBWL)
Posted by: RWC at March 28, 2014 09:25 AM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 28, 2014 09:25 AM (igKtt)
Lifestyle? Like no drinking and whoring? Or what?
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:25 AM (o4Xc4)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:25 AM (BCTnr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 28, 2014 09:25 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 01:19 PM (PYAXX)
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Then those high deductible family plans are suicidal.
Posted by: EC at March 28, 2014 01:20 PM (GQ8sn)
It's basically like having no insurance, but now you have to pay for it. Hope n Change, bitchez!!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 28, 2014 09:26 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 28, 2014 09:26 AM (V40IZ)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 28, 2014 09:26 AM (vHRtU)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 09:26 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 28, 2014 09:26 AM (da5Wo)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 28, 2014 09:28 AM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 09:28 AM (hFL/3)
Writers I would like to see tied up and dragged behind Achilles' chariot thrice around Illium - those responsible for Troy, Prometheus, and Noah.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:29 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at March 28, 2014 09:29 AM (R5UOB)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 09:29 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:30 AM (BCTnr)
I don't know what the "final straw" was. But I think the story of Abraham bargaining with the lord to spare the city if he could find ten good men there is instructive. When all the people are corrupted, and they either drive away or eject the good people, that's the point at which the furies are loosed.
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at March 28, 2014 09:30 AM (o4Xc4)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 28, 2014 09:30 AM (oFCZn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 01:29 PM (PYAXX)
That would be epic!
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2014 09:30 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Citizen X at March 28, 2014 09:31 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: The MFM at March 28, 2014 09:31 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: The MFM at March 28, 2014 09:31 AM (PYAXX)
Can't get any info from my critter's campaign office re schedule. Must be some more of that secret crap
Posted by: NCwoof at March 28, 2014 09:31 AM (aUQgu)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2014 09:31 AM (/vO0r)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 09:31 AM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:32 AM (47IEJ)
a) improve
b) remain the same
c) be worse
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 01:10 PM (47IEJ)
Scarlett Johansson said Paltrow wouldn't speak to her the whole time Iron Man 2 was shooting, which hurt Johansson's feelings somewhat since she wanted to tell Paltrow how much she admired her work. I'm guessing Johansson was snubbed because Paltrow doesn't like to be around someone more talented and beautiful than she is.
Posted by: troyriser at March 28, 2014 09:32 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:33 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: tangonine at March 28, 2014 09:33 AM (x3YFz)
Is that the bad guy that chases the smurfs around?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 28, 2014 09:33 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 28, 2014 09:34 AM (GjPnA)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 28, 2014 09:34 AM (659DL)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 09:34 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2014 09:34 AM (dfYL9)
So basically the older she gets the more anti-social she'll be.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 28, 2014 09:34 AM (0AKks)
*gag*
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:34 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:35 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: OG Celtic-American at March 28, 2014 09:35 AM (vHRtU)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 09:35 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 28, 2014 09:36 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 28, 2014 09:36 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 28, 2014 09:37 AM (ZshNr)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at March 28, 2014 09:37 AM (PYAXX)
That girl in a roomful of men is like a magnet in a roomful of compasses.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 28, 2014 09:37 AM (0AKks)
Posted by: jwest at March 28, 2014 09:38 AM (u2a4R)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:39 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: Muad'dib at March 28, 2014 09:39 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 09:40 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:40 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: L. Ron Hubbard at March 28, 2014 09:41 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 09:41 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 28, 2014 09:41 AM (da5Wo)
http://tinyurl.com/q6l7ord
Basically it's a form of insurance that qualifies.
My insurance broker told me my upcoming rates are nearly going to double with the new Obamacare standards, and my deductible is already $5,500. So really, I don't have health insurance, I have bankruptcy insurance.
I'm surprised this escape hatch isn't getting more airplay.
Posted by: McAdams at March 28, 2014 09:42 AM (ycr59)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 28, 2014 09:43 AM (igKtt)
Lucky damn dog.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 01:41 PM (g1DWB)
She's way hotter than Gwyneth.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 28, 2014 09:44 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: tangonine at March 28, 2014 09:44 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2014 09:44 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 09:45 AM (g1DWB)
Are you trolling for Ace? I recall that he approved of those shots. As do I, although her backside is world class, whereas her boobs are simply nice.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 28, 2014 09:45 AM (QFxY5)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 28, 2014 09:45 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: AMDG at March 28, 2014 09:45 AM (eFytx)
Posted by: Rick Grimes at March 28, 2014 09:46 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 28, 2014 09:46 AM (ZshNr)
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Posted by: Pug-De-Da! at March 28, 2014 09:47 AM (vFh9Q)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 28, 2014 09:47 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 09:47 AM (47IEJ)
Posted by: Lauren at March 28, 2014 09:47 AM (hFL/3)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at March 28, 2014 09:47 AM (da5Wo)
http://youtu.be/vyqww0RScMs
They really pared down the story to basically making her character a serial predator/killer cruising Scotland for her victims.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at March 28, 2014 09:47 AM (IHAZk)
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy-Eared Vulcan at March 28, 2014 09:48 AM (V40IZ)
Did you recognize her at the time? If not, how'd you make the connection?
Posted by: Thieves at March 28, 2014 09:48 AM (BbzWD)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at March 28, 2014 09:48 AM (5UUxX)
Posted by: Olivia Wilde at March 28, 2014 09:48 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Lesbian Outreach Coordinator at March 28, 2014 01:35 PM (47IEJ)
Yeah, but Johansson's Natasha Romanov/Black Widow character has no superpowers. Traditionally in the Marvel universe, the Black Widow's just been a badass superspy with electrically charged wrist bracelets and a Makarov pistol. However, does possess the ability to make men do crazy, stupid shit to get her to pay attention to them. Whether or not that's a superpower is a matter of some debate. I've had girlfriends and wives with that ability.
Posted by: troyriser at March 28, 2014 09:49 AM (2jF2B)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2014 09:49 AM (/vO0r)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at March 28, 2014 09:50 AM (0HooB)
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 28, 2014 09:50 AM (igKtt)
Oh, they've already been doing this for some time. Hollywood rarely does political activism with subtlety.
But isn't it amazing that they all feel so comfortable in this relationship where the White House feeds them their propaganda and they comply, and all of this is right out in the open??
Posted by: Lizzy at March 28, 2014 09:51 AM (udjuE)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2014 09:51 AM (/vO0r)
Posted by: Olivia Wilde
And you have the jawline of the Predator. So, bonus!
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i][/b] at March 28, 2014 09:51 AM (AA6QE)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 09:51 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Joey Choo Choo Biden at March 28, 2014 09:52 AM (gOoFi)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2014 09:53 AM (g1DWB)
Posted by: HR Go Cyclones! at March 28, 2014 09:54 AM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at March 28, 2014 09:55 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: tangonine at March 28, 2014 09:58 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2014 09:58 AM (XyM/Y)
Posted by: tangonine at March 28, 2014 10:00 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: naturalfake at March 28, 2014 10:01 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: tangonine at March 28, 2014 10:02 AM (x3YFz)
Posted by: panzernashorn at March 28, 2014 10:03 AM (/vO0r)
Posted by: tangonine at March 28, 2014 10:05 AM (x3YFz)
Media Rights Capital, the Beverly Hills, Calif., company producing the popular Netflix show, wrote Gov. Martin O'Malley that it was putting off work on its third season until it could be assured that sufficient tax credits would be approved. If those weren't forthcoming, it said it would break down its film stage and move it to another state.
Del. William Frick, a Montgomery County Democrat, proposed the provision, which orders the state to use the right of eminent domain to buy or condemn the property of any company that has claimed $10 million or more credits against the state income tax. The provision would appear to apply only to the Netflix series, which has gotten the bulk of the state credits.
Posted by: Harry Reid's lying heart at March 28, 2014 10:13 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Odie1941 at March 28, 2014 10:20 AM (iS2i7)
Posted by: Average ObamaCare Enrolee at March 28, 2014 10:23 AM (V0j3u)
and, then, there's Megan McArdle's take at Bloomberg. She tried to guestimate the number of previously uninsured who signed up for O'Care and didn't end up in Medicaid (which totally seems like cheating if we are talking about "insurance", whaever the fuck that is now).
Anyway Megan said she truly wouldn't be able to get a handle on the number until the next census came out but she's pretty sure it's a small number, relative to the incredible inconvenience we are all living through, not to mention personal disasters and even deaths that happen as the Workers Soviet in Washington tries to figure out how a command economy works.
My guess is something like 1 million people. I pick that number as the number of previously uninsured who are actually helped by the nationalization effort.
Posted by: MTF at March 28, 2014 10:45 AM (LISuA)
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