January 23, 2014
— Ace Their balance sheets are unpredictable, because Obama can change the law (and how much the government will have to bailout insurers, and how much they will be bailed out) per his whim.
The private credit rating agency said potential fallout from the Affordable Care Act’s implementation — including changes to the individual market and the impact of the law’s “employer mandate” on commercial group plans in January 2015 — presents the greatest challenge to health insurers’ credit profile. Lower reimbursement rates among Medicare Advantage plans also are creating financial pressure, it said.
“While all of these issues had been on our radar screen as we approached 2014, a new development and a key factor for the change in outlook is the unstable and evolving regulatory environment under which the sector is operating,” Moody's said. “Notably, new regulations and presidential announcements over the last several months with respect to the ACA have imposed operational changes well after product and pricing decisions had been finalized.”
AllahPundit jokes that it's time for the Treasury Secretary to make a threatening phone call to Moody's.
Except that's not a joke, is it?
Corrected: I had to correct the headline and the body of the story.
I would explain what the correction was, but it would be far too embarrassing.
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Posted by: no good deed at January 23, 2014 11:44 AM (vBhbc)
Posted by: David at January 23, 2014 11:45 AM (UtRhK)
Posted by: Barky O'Genius at January 23, 2014 11:45 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Cooter Control at January 23, 2014 11:45 AM (HgfyP)
Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2014 11:46 AM (MNq6o)
#4: Yeah, headline's a little misleading. Moody's isn't saying that ACA is endangering the full faith and credit of the US of A. Though they ought to.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at January 23, 2014 11:46 AM (A0sHn)
Posted by: Shotgun Joe at January 23, 2014 11:46 AM (ymH/8)
Posted by: Registered Voter at January 23, 2014 11:46 AM (AiKJm)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at January 23, 2014 11:46 AM (HVff2)
Posted by: JT Marlin at January 23, 2014 11:47 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2014 11:47 AM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 23, 2014 11:47 AM (vd7A8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 23, 2014 11:48 AM (aDwsi)
Not that important for the rest of the fuckin media to report eh?
Unbelievable...truly Soviet stuff.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at January 23, 2014 11:48 AM (xggaJ)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2014 11:48 AM (B/VB5)
Yep. The U.S. outlook is still sound as a dollar.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2014 11:49 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 23, 2014 11:49 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Damiano at January 23, 2014 11:49 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2014 11:49 AM (B/VB5)
Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at January 23, 2014 11:50 AM (oDCMR)
>>>AllahPundit jokes that it's time for the Treasury Secretary to make a threatening phone call to Moody's.
Except that's not a joke, is it?<<<
It's in my nature.
Posted by: BH0, The Scorpion King at January 23, 2014 11:50 AM (VVa+w)
Jesus, we have become collectively dunces.
Posted by: backhoe at January 23, 2014 11:50 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 11:50 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2014 11:50 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Damiano at January 23, 2014 11:50 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: Adam at January 23, 2014 11:50 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 11:50 AM (tnQuI)
Posted by: Henry Obama at January 23, 2014 11:50 AM (nELVU)
Posted by: The poor, poor President at January 23, 2014 11:51 AM (8GKDa)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2014 11:51 AM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 11:51 AM (ZPrif)
It's at junk status as far as I am concerned. Here's a comment from Richard Fisher of the Dallas Fed. (paraphrased)
"in 1937, at the height of the depression, excess reserves held in Federal Reserve Banks amounted to 41% of the money supply. At the end of 2013, excess reserves amount to over 60% of the money supply. We are in uncharted territory."
Excess reserves are money that is witheld from the economy to keep velocity at an acceptable level. They are normally added back into the economy during periods of growth, so that tells you something about where we are currently.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 23, 2014 11:52 AM (AskuI)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 23, 2014 11:52 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The Fuse on the Employer Mandate Bomb at January 23, 2014 11:52 AM (8ZskC)
Mebbe make this thread into the new flamewar?
Imma just call all you kettles black and see whatup
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 11:53 AM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Shibumi at January 23, 2014 11:54 AM (25HWz)
Posted by: U.S. Insurers at January 23, 2014 11:54 AM (vBhbc)
Posted by: Daybrother at January 23, 2014 11:54 AM (Z5H/V)
Posted by: CBO at January 23, 2014 11:55 AM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Admiral Bloom at January 23, 2014 11:55 AM (DrC22)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 11:55 AM (xZxMD)
Posted by: Damiano at January 23, 2014 11:56 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2014 11:56 AM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2014 11:56 AM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at January 23, 2014 11:56 AM (oDCMR)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 11:57 AM (xZxMD)
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 11:57 AM (tnQuI)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at January 23, 2014 11:57 AM (Z0/+C)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 11:57 AM (IXrOn)
Posted by: maddogg at January 23, 2014 11:57 AM (xWW96)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 23, 2014 11:57 AM (aDwsi)
Gee, I like that idea. A lot.
Posted by: backhoe at January 23, 2014 11:57 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: Daybrother at January 23, 2014 11:58 AM (Z5H/V)
Posted by: Damiano at January 23, 2014 11:58 AM (j0wOO)
Posted by: maddogg at January 23, 2014 03:57 PM (xWW96)
Is it an Obama pho'?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 23, 2014 11:58 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 23, 2014 11:58 AM (aDwsi)
Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 23, 2014 11:59 AM (WdFTd)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 23, 2014 11:59 AM (7ObY1)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:00 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at January 23, 2014 12:00 PM (oDCMR)
Whose dollar?Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 03:55 PM (xZxMD)
Zimbabwe
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 23, 2014 12:00 PM (ZS1LI)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 23, 2014 12:00 PM (7ObY1)
Underlying some of this "green energy" push is just pushing a virtually new industry to throw some dollars into the economy.
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No. It's nothing but a money laundering scheme for the DNC and the unions.
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 12:01 PM (tnQuI)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2014 12:01 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 23, 2014 12:01 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 23, 2014 12:01 PM (7ObY1)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 23, 2014 12:01 PM (/Crba)
>>>In some ideal afterlife, Nancy Pelosi will be beaten senseless with a giant gavel.
You can still see that gavel in action at PelosiSybian dot com
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 12:02 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 23, 2014 12:03 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 23, 2014 03:58 PM (aDwsi)
I don't think wealth re-distribution means what you think it means!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2014 12:03 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2014 12:03 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Daybrother at January 23, 2014 12:03 PM (Z5H/V)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:03 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: George Soros at January 23, 2014 12:03 PM (1Rgee)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:04 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at January 23, 2014 12:04 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 23, 2014 12:05 PM (rSIYI)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:05 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:06 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 23, 2014 12:07 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 23, 2014 12:07 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2014 12:07 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:07 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2014 04:03 PM (t3UFN)
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In Oklahoma there'd be a very good chance of this guy being tied to a tree and beaten to death.
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 12:07 PM (tnQuI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
***
Saving our sanity and warding off diabetes at the same time. You're a real hero, Nied's.
Posted by: Liberty Lover at January 23, 2014 12:07 PM (WydzH)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 23, 2014 12:07 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: fastfreefall at January 23, 2014 12:08 PM (L0LBh)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 23, 2014 12:08 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:08 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 23, 2014 12:09 PM (yz6yg)
I fuckin hate liberals
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2014 04:03 PM (t3UFN)
Quit trying to impose your moral preferences on other people.
I keed, I keed.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 23, 2014 12:09 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 23, 2014 12:09 PM (/Crba)
Coulda knocked me over with a feather!
Posted by: looking closely at January 23, 2014 12:09 PM (6Q9g2)
Posted by: alexthechick - Skittle fueled Godzillette at January 23, 2014 12:09 PM (VtjlW)
>> Police in suburban Atlanta have sworn out a warrant on a lunchlady believed to have embezzled $500 a day for a minimum of 5 years.
.
.
.Seriously? They had that much friggin lunch money coming in every day in one school that $500 missing wasn't even noticed?
I am going to toss the 24 hour BS flag on this for now.
Posted by: Registered Voter at January 23, 2014 12:09 PM (AiKJm)
Someone should have been able to ask themselves how the fuck a lunchlady at a public school can
embezzle $500 a day & it not be noticed in a week.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 04:05 PM (xZxMD)
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We need a pic of the lunch lady. There may be more than just embezzlement here. Or maybe not. We need a pic.
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 12:10 PM (tnQuI)
Posted by: RWC at January 23, 2014 12:10 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 23, 2014 12:10 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: Daybrother at January 23, 2014 12:11 PM (tJvR2)
Original text: Boody's Downgrades US Insurers'.....
Revised test: Moody's Downgrades Us Insurers'....
Posted by: Doctor Fish at January 23, 2014 12:11 PM (pJF+c)
I just gotta say here right now, that John Boner, Paul Ryan and Cantor are just about the most Conservative guys you'd ever meet.
Ever, you'd have to go a long time before findin any guys who were more conservative, who have more of a track record of bein all Conservative.
You know...
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at January 23, 2014 12:11 PM (xggaJ)
It's unrealistic to expect any healthy adult to not beat off to kiddie porn at work.
Posted by: HR at January 23, 2014 12:11 PM (ZKzrr)
@DRUDGE_REPORT
Senior Healthcare Advisor Leaving White House... http://drudge.tw/19QV6gV
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 23, 2014 12:11 PM (cxs6V)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:11 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: no good deed at January 23, 2014 12:11 PM (vBhbc)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:12 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:12 PM (ZPrif)
Speaking of which....whatever became of the cop shoots 19 yr old kid cause he didn't have time for this?
Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2014 12:13 PM (KXm42)
I fuckin hate liberals
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2014 04:03 PM (t3UFN)
If you don't drop that SoCon stuff you will never win another election.
Posted by: Larry, Curly and Moe Moe at January 23, 2014 12:13 PM (ZS1LI)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 23, 2014 12:14 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 23, 2014 12:14 PM (yz6yg)
>>>Police in suburban Atlanta have sworn out a warrant on a lunchlady believed to have embezzled $500 a day for a minimum of 5 years.
"You just get yourself a coffee can and put your money in that, then bury it in the backyard. Nobody got to know what's in your can."
-- ACORN worker
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 12:15 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2014 12:15 PM (9THRT)
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 23, 2014 12:15 PM (GrtrJ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:15 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 23, 2014 12:16 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2014 12:16 PM (9THRT)
Posted by: Less Wonkish More Rogue at January 23, 2014 12:16 PM (dvRYt)
No, no, no. I have been assured by world renowned scientists that Affordable Energy Care is based upon reputable inventions hidden from the light of day by Republicans that hate Gaia. Big energy and big oil have no desire to see any competition and have suppressed this information for decades while they cunningly built three of the most reliable and ubiquitous energy delivery systems (electric grid, pipelines, and the gasoline station networks) ever seen.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2014 12:16 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 23, 2014 12:17 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 23, 2014 12:17 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 23, 2014 12:17 PM (7mQyC)
Except that's not a joke, is it?"
Just like that joke Obama made about auditing his enemies. And the one he made about his daughters' future dates and the fact that he has Predator drones.
Mere japes, my friend.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Mid Winter sale! Thinly Veiled Contempt 1/2 Off! at January 23, 2014 12:17 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Adam at January 23, 2014 12:17 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2014 12:18 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: Bob Dole at January 23, 2014 12:19 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: RWC at January 23, 2014 12:19 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:19 PM (ZPrif)
I do not have an Affirmative Action pedigree. I worked for every accomplishment to include the Nobel Piece Prise!
Posted by: B Hussein Obama the Magnificent at January 23, 2014 12:20 PM (pJF+c)
Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at January 23, 2014 12:20 PM (oDCMR)
150 Bob Dole never sold a pineapple in his life.
Posted by: Bob Dole at January 23, 2014 04:19 PM (8ZskC)
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Heh.
Posted by: Sphynx at January 23, 2014 12:20 PM (OZmbA)
Posted by: DNC talking points at January 23, 2014 12:21 PM (YQ5LG)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 23, 2014 12:21 PM (z+4T3)
Maybe the meatloaf was made with dry-aged Wagyu beef.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 23, 2014 12:21 PM (8ZskC)
>>>So you are saying that there is an Atlanta school which collects from students at least $500 daily for food purchases? I calling this a BS story.
Missing decimal. You get to place it
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 12:22 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: bonhomme at January 23, 2014 12:22 PM (m5UN9)
Bob Dole did a great job, and Bob Dole was next in line, but Bob Dole wasn't aggressive enough with.......ugh......who did I run against?
Posted by: Bob Dole's friend Bob Dole at January 23, 2014 12:22 PM (pJF+c)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 23, 2014 12:22 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 23, 2014 12:22 PM (aDwsi)
Not even run-of-the-mill "kiddie porn" here, where Traci Lords lied about her age and was below consent when filming Talk To Me Dirty 3...
We're talking some pretty gruesome stuff from the description given.
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You socons will never win another election if you keep this up.
Posted by: NAMBLA at January 23, 2014 12:22 PM (tnQuI)
So let me get this straight. It was a mistake to vote for the black guy because he was a Malignant Narcicsist with a Skank Whore "Mother" who abandoned him whose Sperm Doner "Father" he met only once? Does this about sum it up? Oh, that and he has never run anything beside his mouth and never held a real job. This it?
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 23, 2014 12:22 PM (jucos)
This is San Francisco, where naked people get to wander around all day and the annual Ghey Pride parade is an X-rated affair. It really needs to meet the SMOD soon. A really really big SMOD. Soon.
Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at January 23, 2014 12:23 PM (RQDhf)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 12:23 PM (N8oJ5)
"The person that finds her gets to name her right?"
"Yes-yes that's right, that's right."
"I wanna name her Dottie after my wife.
She's a vicious life-sucking bitch from which there is no escape. "
Posted by: West at January 23, 2014 12:23 PM (1Rgee)
Posted by: model_1066 at January 23, 2014 12:24 PM (LIQGY)
>>>I've got a phone and a pen . . .
Excellent. Take this down: Ham, cheese. Swiss, dammit. Brown mustard. Rye. OK read it back.
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 12:24 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 23, 2014 12:24 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: MFM at January 23, 2014 12:24 PM (dvRYt)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:24 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: Charles Foster Kane at January 23, 2014 12:25 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Daybrother at January 23, 2014 12:25 PM (dt6zU)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 12:26 PM (N8oJ5)
Excellent. Take this down: Ham, cheese. Swiss, dammit. Brown mustard. Rye. OK read it back.
And coffee. This time with NO SUGAR, you blithering idiot!
Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 23, 2014 12:26 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:26 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 23, 2014 12:27 PM (TGgNi)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:27 PM (ZPrif)
You're right about that.
Big Oil killed the inventor of a secret free energy machine and hid the plans in Dick Cheney's transplant.
Posted by: Daybrother at January 23, 2014 04:25 PM (dt6zU)
_________________________
Word
Posted by: Tinfoil Hat Firmly Upon My Head, Black Sedans in Front of My Trailer at January 23, 2014 12:27 PM (jucos)
HA HA HA. Speaking of Soetoro.
Who knows if it is real, so caution, still made me chuckle.
http://tinyurl.com/l938hyh
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 23, 2014 12:27 PM (n0DEs)
Posted by: Wendy Davis at January 23, 2014 12:27 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Buddy Ackerman at January 23, 2014 12:28 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 23, 2014 12:28 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at January 23, 2014 12:28 PM (lkvjZ)
Did it involve Swiss cheese?
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 23, 2014 12:29 PM (vuh7l)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 23, 2014 12:29 PM (yz6yg)
If you stop after "Things" you just described the Obama administration.
Posted by: HR at January 23, 2014 12:29 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at January 23, 2014 12:30 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 12:30 PM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:30 PM (xZxMD)
I remember that big orange faced blob Bernie Ward, who used to go on Hannity and Skeletor for fun times and yelling.
He got busted for kiddie porn.
Nice guy, never thought anything was od about that dude...
NAAAHHHHH...no, Maoists and people of the left never get into strange sexual shit, never.
"Ward is now serving his sentence at the Lompoc Low Security Federal Correctional Facility (FCI) as inmate # 90569-111."
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at January 23, 2014 12:30 PM (xggaJ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:30 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Billygoat Tavern Owner at January 23, 2014 12:30 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at January 23, 2014 12:31 PM (HgfyP)
Posted by: Jessica Hawn at January 23, 2014 12:31 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Wendy Davis at January 23, 2014 04:27 PM (oFCZn)
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Ask Moochelle for an invitation to the SOTU address. If nothing else it would add a bit of color to that drab occasion.
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 12:32 PM (tnQuI)
Posted by: Abortion Barbie at January 23, 2014 12:32 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Bob Dole at January 23, 2014 12:32 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: --- at January 23, 2014 12:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:32 PM (ZPrif)
I did Wendy during a dark period at Harvard for $200 when her allowance didn't arrive on time for the weekend party.
Posted by: Anonymous Harvard Dude at January 23, 2014 12:32 PM (pJF+c)
Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 23, 2014 12:33 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:34 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:35 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Daybrother at January 23, 2014 12:35 PM (06m8z)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:35 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: The Invisible Hand at January 23, 2014 12:35 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: votermom at January 23, 2014 12:36 PM (GSIDW)
Posted by: Will Folks at January 23, 2014 12:37 PM (9THRT)
Maybe they can get a refund.
Posted by: votermom at January 23, 2014 04:36 PM (GSIDW)
Sorry, all grifts are final.
Posted by: Barry Soetero at January 23, 2014 12:37 PM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 12:37 PM (3ZtZW)
With a Pineapple.
Posted by: Will Folks at January 23, 2014 04:37 PM (9THRT)
So it was a three-way?
Posted by: Insomniac at January 23, 2014 12:37 PM (DrWcr)
Would they be more likely to defect?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 23, 2014 12:37 PM (ZS1LI)
Posted by: RWC at January 23, 2014 12:37 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 12:38 PM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: RWC at January 23, 2014 12:38 PM (fWAjv)
>>>Cuomo has launched an investigation of O'Keefe in NY.
His fault for being in NY to begin with
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 12:39 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Will Folks at January 23, 2014 04:37 PM (9THRT)
So it was a three-way?
Posted by: Insomniac at January 23, 2014 04:37 PM (DrWcr)
Upside down cake.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 23, 2014 12:40 PM (ZS1LI)
Posted by: TD Outdoor Board at January 23, 2014 12:40 PM (L8r/r)
Surprise, surprise.
Posted by: Hate Miser at January 23, 2014 12:40 PM (VVa+w)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 12:40 PM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at January 23, 2014 12:40 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Civility Police at January 23, 2014 12:41 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:41 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 12:41 PM (3ZtZW)
Surprise, surprise.
Posted by: Hate Miser at January 23, 2014 04:40 PM (VVa+w)
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The time is not right. Wait till summer. Then brang it.
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 12:43 PM (tnQuI)
Posted by: RWC at January 23, 2014 12:43 PM (fWAjv)
"Vote fraud" is just a RWNJ dog whistle for disenfranchising black people.
Posted by: 20-something Obama voter's Obama-voting roommate at January 23, 2014 12:44 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Mike Huckabee at January 23, 2014 12:45 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:47 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Caliban at January 23, 2014 12:47 PM (DrC22)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:47 PM (ZPrif)
Andrew Cuomo, BTW, would be far far worse than BO as President.
For one thing, he's upfront about the whole anschluss-y bit, isn't he? And kinda ham-handed about it. So we got a dummy who's mean and energetic, doesn't have any sense of either restraint or shame. This is the guy who really would put you in a camp and not see anything problematic about it.
And, since I think Obama isn't the one to be afraid of but the next one is, he's prolly gonna be it.
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 12:47 PM (3ZtZW)
It is just amazing how every single business and company in America is attacking women and minorities.
Can you believe S&P and Moody's, how racist they are???
It's ridiculous!
So racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at January 23, 2014 12:47 PM (xggaJ)
On what the gays want: I am assured the gays won't be stabbing each other's assholes on the public street, like they do in San Francisco. But Kiddie porn is OK in Frisco I guess. Why worry? The gays don't want Frisco to spread, do they?
http://tinyurl.com/mv4ewne
Posted by: maddogg at January 23, 2014 12:48 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:49 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 12:49 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:49 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:49 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Only if you're offsetting the cost with some money from the government. Remove that government money and every US solar panel maker goes belly up.
Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2014 12:50 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 12:50 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: HR at January 23, 2014 04:42 PM (ZKzrr)<<<
I want to go to CO to try out for the Broncos...
... yeah, try out for the Broncos... that's the ticket.
Posted by: Ricky Williams at January 23, 2014 12:50 PM (VVa+w)
Posted by: Christianity[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 23, 2014 12:50 PM (yz6yg)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:51 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 23, 2014 12:51 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: The guy who mixes metaphors at January 23, 2014 12:51 PM (Kkt/i)
Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 23, 2014 12:51 PM (X6iBy)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:52 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 12:53 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:53 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Holger at January 23, 2014 12:53 PM (rIk1N)
257 Disgree.
You think Obama is the worst.
Here's the thing: No matter how far down you go, when you get there you hear clawing noises from underneath.
Posted by: Bigby's Semaphore Hands at January 23, 2014 12:53 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 23, 2014 12:54 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Justin Blackmon at January 23, 2014 12:55 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:56 PM (IXrOn)
All these seem kind of gross.
http://is.gd/k68yvT
Posted by: HR at January 23, 2014 12:57 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: The Rock at January 23, 2014 12:58 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Which King of Angmar at January 23, 2014 12:59 PM (ld3EF)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 23, 2014 12:59 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 12:59 PM (tnQuI)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 12:59 PM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 01:00 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2014 01:00 PM (zqvg6)
and wait until you see the maintenance/refurb bill in a couple of years (after the cronies have moved on with the real cash).
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 23, 2014 01:01 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
No solar panel generates enough electricity to pay for itself. (I don't know if China solar panel makers would survive if all US government money was cut out of solar energy so I limited that to US makers.) Before the panels start to pay for themselves, they need to be replaced. The only reason you see solar panels and wind farms is government money. It's even the same with tankless water heaters for your home. When they start to save you some money, they need to be replaced. You're just paying up front for your hot water.
Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2014 01:01 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: Takashi at January 23, 2014 01:01 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: fastfreefall at January 23, 2014 01:02 PM (L0LBh)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 23, 2014 01:02 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Truthful Wendy Davis at January 23, 2014 01:03 PM (WGm5T)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 23, 2014 01:04 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 23, 2014 01:04 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 01:05 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: EC at January 23, 2014 01:07 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:07 PM (PYAXX)
A credit rating agency walks into a bar and orders a beer.
The bartender says , " You looked happy when you walked in but now not so happy. What's up?"
The credit rating agency replies, " Its nothing. I'm just Moody"
(forgive me this was a hard subject to find a joke)
Posted by: polynikes at January 23, 2014 01:07 PM (m2CN7)
Obama's ambassador pick for Norway doesn't know shit about Norway...
http://tinyurl.com/l88b7sp
Making friends all around the world, eh Barry? Fucking retards.
Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2014 01:07 PM (MNq6o)
Moody's is offensive to women, LBGT persons and people of color, as well as minorities of all stripes.
They ought to be sued.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at January 23, 2014 01:08 PM (xggaJ)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:08 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 01:09 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:09 PM (PYAXX)
Isn't funny how falling feels like flying..... For a little while.
Posted by: Obama's last words at January 23, 2014 01:09 PM (m2CN7)
http://www.piecouncil.org/Events/NationalPieDay
I make a pretty good chocolate cream pie, but I think I'm out of the chocolate.
Posted by: HR at January 23, 2014 01:10 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 23, 2014 01:10 PM (/Crba)
We should at least pretend to care about all those quaint little out of the way places. Shouldn't we? *sips malt beverage and reaches for the pork rinds*
Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2014 01:10 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: MTF at January 23, 2014 01:11 PM (F58x4)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:11 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 23, 2014 01:11 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:13 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 01:13 PM (xZxMD)
So is ace still trolling his readers in the previous thread?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 05:09 PM (PYAXX)
Yes. It's a strawman massacre in there.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 23, 2014 01:13 PM (DrWcr)
Tsunis would have probably said, "Norwegian Olympic skier."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 01:13 PM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at January 23, 2014 01:13 PM (9+ccr)
I ain't goin' back in there. You go look.
But don't tell me what's going on.
Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2014 01:13 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: soothsayer, with arms akimbo at January 23, 2014 01:14 PM (X6iBy)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:14 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 23, 2014 01:14 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 01:15 PM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:15 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 01:15 PM (xZxMD)
Interesting factoid about Norway.
It is the location of the Svalbard Global Seed Vault.
Contains the duplicate copies of seeds held in other gene banks world wide.
Posted by: Obama's last words at January 23, 2014 01:15 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 23, 2014 01:15 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:15 PM (PYAXX)
It's unrealistic to expect a healthy adult to not fight strawmen.
Posted by: HR at January 23, 2014 01:16 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:16 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:18 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 01:18 PM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 23, 2014 01:19 PM (bCEmE)
We laughed, because its been factored in for some time.
We cried, when we realized it will probably be our tax money Obama uses to bail them out of his mess.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2014 01:19 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 05:14 PM (PYAXX)
---------------------------------------------
I went back to look and thought, I'll leave this chicken alone.
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 01:19 PM (tnQuI)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 23, 2014 01:19 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:19 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2014 01:20 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:21 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 23, 2014 01:21 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2014 01:22 PM (MNq6o)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 23, 2014 01:22 PM (PYAXX)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 23, 2014 01:23 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Ron Burgundy at January 23, 2014 01:23 PM (/Crba)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 23, 2014 01:23 PM (N8oJ5)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 23, 2014 01:23 PM (ZshNr)
Posted by: Soona at January 23, 2014 01:23 PM (tnQuI)
Posted by: Pauly Shore[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 23, 2014 01:23 PM (45N4D)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 23, 2014 01:23 PM (vd7A8)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 23, 2014 01:24 PM (+VxsD)
That would be a sure sign of an outta whack libido, sir.
Posted by: Dang at January 23, 2014 01:24 PM (MNq6o)
I don't have enough time or pie tins to bake enough pies for 50 people. Sorry.
Pi-shaped cookie cutter, OTOH....
Posted by: HR at January 23, 2014 01:24 PM (ZKzrr)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2014 01:24 PM (xZxMD)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 23, 2014 01:28 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 23, 2014 01:30 PM (GDulk)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 23, 2014 01:30 PM (+VxsD)
Hints? They just spelled it out. Revenge of the ex.
Posted by: Lester at January 23, 2014 01:35 PM (2UPXV)
Posted by: panzernashorn at January 23, 2014 01:40 PM (MhA4j)
Posted by: Lester at January 23, 2014 01:45 PM (2UPXV)
unrealistic to expect any healthy adult to not beat off to kiddie porn at work.
stop trying to push your morality on me!
Posted by: gman at January 23, 2014 01:49 PM (UkbKS)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 23, 2014 01:59 PM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit who demand that you call him Chelsea at January 23, 2014 02:01 PM (vVMIQ)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit who demand that you call him Chelsea at January 23, 2014 02:02 PM (vVMIQ)
Posted by: Druids at January 23, 2014 02:17 PM (lkvjZ)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 23, 2014 02:23 PM (OEuV/)
For the typical coverage, offer a different sort of plan. Assume you have a dooflicky surgery that the average cost is 1000, instead of offering to pay 80% of the dooflickly, pay $800 dollars for the dooflicky, no matter where you get it done (in or out of the US).
If you can find the care for less than $800, you pocket the left over. If you go to a boutique clinic that charges in the $1500, you pay $700. If you go to a clinic that charges the $1000 average, you pay $200.
Personally, in a free market for health care, I'd be looking for some sort of HSA catastrophic plan that self adjusted according to the size of my HSA. If I save up $20,000 in my HSA by good health and financial practices, I might be fine with a $10,000 deductible... and a catastrophic coverage that would be much less than a $2000 Catastrophic plan -- you know, just like auto insurance comes with savings for higher deductible plans...
Market forces, when freed from gubermint nonsense regulations and without crony political deals with carriers to negotiate bloated fees with providers, will end up stabilizing and adding common sense to the health care marketplace.
Ideally, if something like bitcoin were stable, one might figure out how to offer such HC financing/insurance internationally. It might not take long before folks looking for quality care start bailing on their various failing and cumbersome gubermint HC systems and go back to the marketplace for HC financing.
Posted by: Seipherd at January 23, 2014 06:13 PM (AortR)
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