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April 07, 2014

Mozilla's Post-Purge Feedback Is Strongly Negative
— Ace

I'm heartened that Mozilla users are disheartened.

Most "sad" comments since the company
began tracking them

Companies make these kind of cowardly decisions because they fear the backlash if they don't give in to the Leftist Thought Police.

They should be made to fear more the backlash if they do.

Posted by: Ace at 12:49 PM | Comments (457)
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1 I didn't send them feedback but I've uninstalled Firefox both at work and home.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 07, 2014 12:51 PM (eBNjM)

Does Mozilla know when people uninstall their browser?

I mean, do they get notified somehow?

Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2014 12:51 PM (FWbLS)

3 Who knew they had the internet in flyover country?

Posted by: fluffy at April 07, 2014 12:51 PM (Ua6T/)

4 Trying out SeaMonkey on my own laptop, considering other browsers for my work machine (not Internet Exploder, though).

Posted by: A message at April 07, 2014 12:51 PM (fsHdl)

5 Pale Moon baby.
It's on every computer in the house.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 12:51 PM (hDwVv)

6 Feathers, a rail and tar, some assembly required.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 07, 2014 12:52 PM (p6js3)

7 The shit just got real? Nah, people will forget about this in a few hours.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 12:52 PM (jldxi)

8 @2 There are browser usage statistics...I don't think that they can tell that you've uninstalled but they can tell that you've stopped using.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 07, 2014 12:52 PM (eBNjM)

9 Second look at Mosaic?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2014 12:52 PM (8ZskC)

10 It was the backlash that they did not fear and did not expect that got A and E's attention. The Left's victim status group temper tantrum is expected; the silent majority's reaction isn't.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Days of Rage Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at April 07, 2014 12:52 PM (hLRSq)

11 Mozilla's feedback page won't render on the version of FireFox I'm using at work because the IT Department is protecting me from installing anything new.

I'm amused.

Posted by: HR at April 07, 2014 12:52 PM (ZKzrr)

12 Pretty soon all our comments will look like: Normal False False False Microsoft Internet Explorer 4

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 12:53 PM (jldxi)

13 I was going to install Opera, but I hear it said something mean about Dick Cheney once.

Posted by: Purity uber alles at April 07, 2014 12:53 PM (vgIRn)

14 They sure have whatted mozilla in the berthing.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 07, 2014 12:54 PM (pdk6E)

15 >>>>They should be made to fear more the backlash if they do. Definitely.

Posted by: A&E at April 07, 2014 12:54 PM (W4pJy)

16 I hate fucking sea monkeys.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 12:54 PM (jldxi)

17 16 I hate fucking sea monkeys. Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 04:54 PM (jldxi) So stop fucking 'em!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2014 12:54 PM (mx5oN)

18 Chrome is great, but by the same token Google is probably more left than Mozilla - whaddya gonna do?

Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 07, 2014 12:54 PM (ubkrT)

19 "I hate fucking sea monkeys."

You're doing it wrong.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 12:55 PM (hDwVv)

20 Graphs are good, but I don't think a one-year graph shows what you're discussing. Rather, it merely suggests the Firefox stinks, or that users are more inclined to give feedback when dissatisfied.

Posted by: red sweater at April 07, 2014 12:55 PM (Djwm9)

21 Oddly, I went from only Mozilla to IE and Mozilla because I noticed that Mozilla began to suck cock.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 07, 2014 12:55 PM (bitz6)

22 We're the Tolerance Company. We're all about tolerance.

Posted by: Mozilla at April 07, 2014 12:55 PM (8ZskC)

Firefox is off my machines. Not terribly interested in Chrome, either, unless I want to help finance the Great Firewall.

Tyring a few alternatives, the hardest part is finding a decent RSS tool, Sage was/is hard to beat.

Posted by: West at April 07, 2014 12:55 PM (1Rgee)

24 Has GOProud weighed on on this, yet?

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 07, 2014 12:55 PM (I8YZX)

25 Thanks. I just added my "sad" to the pile.

Posted by: Lauren at April 07, 2014 12:55 PM (hFL/3)

Absolutely. I have as little use for companies that cave in to pi$$ant bullies as I do for the bullies themselves.

Susan G. Komen comes to mind.

Posted by: Sam In VA at April 07, 2014 12:55 PM (Q52VH)

27 SeaMonkey is MozillaÂ’s all-in-one app.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 07, 2014 12:55 PM (WX3R9)

28 18 I wanna keep FF, I really do. So I'm going to wait a few days. But I'm sad, too. They ruined a good product by kow-toweling to an extremist fringe group. Shades of Nazi Germany. Posted by: SE Pa Moron at April 07, 2014 04:54 PM (oGrEy) People have been saying good things about pale moon which uses the same open source code as Firefox.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 07, 2014 12:56 PM (W4pJy)

29 19- we're looking at switching to Chrome, though I have the same thoughts about google.

Making the switch away from Mozilla tonight.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 12:56 PM (ujDl9)

30 I like fucking sea monkeys. Regular ones too.

Posted by: Bob at April 07, 2014 12:56 PM (Aif/5)

31 25 Has GOProud weighed on on this, yet? Posted by: OregonMuse at April 07, 2014 04:55 PM (I8YZX) They're still coordinating talking points with Big Anus.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2014 12:56 PM (mx5oN)

32 Mozilla v. King Kong made me sad.

Posted by: Furious George at April 07, 2014 12:56 PM (yFb77)

33 Sweet tears in their anuses of infinite sadness

Posted by: Cartman at April 07, 2014 12:56 PM (wu/TK)

34 I'm on Safari and about to uninstall FF on relatives' PCs, will check out Pale Moon and maybe Chrome. I have never actively rooted for a company to fail before, other than Ashley Madison.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 07, 2014 12:56 PM (dTh2r)

Boycott each and every one of these fuckers. I know longer drink Sam Adams or Guinness beer.

And I love me some Winter Lager Sam Adams.

fuck them straight to hell. buh bye mozilla, you fascist fucks.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 07, 2014 12:56 PM (tVTLU)

36 If only Al Gore could have peered into the future and seen the bastion of hate that his brainchild would become.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 07, 2014 12:57 PM (JXmWc)

37 I'd switch to Chrome, except I link my bookmarks between my home and work PCs, and my employer has decided to push very restrictive settings on Chrome, for some reason. (I fear they may do the same to Firefox, if only IT could figure out how to.)

Posted by: red sweater at April 07, 2014 12:57 PM (Djwm9)

38 Pale Moon loads pretty much every Firefox extension. They even provide a profile migration tool to move all your bookmarks over.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at April 07, 2014 12:57 PM (ZWvOb)

39 I'm on Chrome right now, and fuck Firefox with the barbed cock of Satan.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventrurer at April 07, 2014 12:57 PM (V2cSj)

40 Yep, the Right needs to get better at taking scalps. Personalize and polarize. It also means concentrating fire on the vulnerable. College professors have tenure, so attacking them when they go full progtard isn't the useful. You rarely get a scalp. They have to actually commit a crime or something. It's also professors with tenure go full progtard, they have protection. I still think Comcast is more vulnerable to to pressure tactics than many think. Advertisers that work with racist, mob snitch Sharpton are a good target.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 07, 2014 12:57 PM (ZPrif)

41 Most things when you uninstall you wind up at a page with a questionnaire.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 07, 2014 12:57 PM (bitz6)

42 I use IE I surf the web like a boss!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 07, 2014 12:57 PM (WnvXh)

43 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) ---- Lynx 2.0 works just fine thank you.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 07, 2014 12:57 PM (fDYw+)

44 I uninstalled Firefox at work and at home. It's been a weird transition, but seriously Mozilla, up yours.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 12:58 PM (qKrH5)

45 35 You may want to install the new OS before killing Firefox so you can transfer info.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 12:58 PM (ojnk6)

46 This is why I had Roland J. Smith Jr., one of the protesters, enter Freddie's Fashion Mart with a gun and flammable liquid, shoot several customers and set the store on fire.

Posted by: former FBI asset known as “CI-7,” Rev. Al Sharpton at April 07, 2014 12:58 PM (e8kgV)

47 *Climbs up on soap box*

Ahem......

If you like the Firefox platform, check out....

PALE MOON!!

Based on Firefox open source code.
Feels like Firefox
But, it isn't Firefox.

Da link is below

http://tinyurl.com/ykpe6e8

Thank you

*Climbs down off soap box*

Thundercats ho!!
In Berthing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 12:58 PM (hDwVv)

48 It doesn't matter if Google or Apple are left. This is about fascist thuggery.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 07, 2014 12:58 PM (dTh2r)

49 Ack..... This is just like the dang islamics.... We hear how the "rank and file "don't agree" with how the "mullahs" and "fanatics" behave.... And yet, shockingly, that same behavior continues whether it's the mullahs or the homosex.

Posted by: Havildar-Major at April 07, 2014 12:58 PM (kduZC)

50 @29 I just switched to Pale Moon about an hour ago. It was super easy to move all my bookmarks over, and I just discovered I have spell check again! Hooray!!

Posted by: SnowyBits at April 07, 2014 12:58 PM (NqhG2)

51 "Happy" "Sad" Is there an adult version of this?

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 12:59 PM (GXZgZ)

52 Tin Cans and String isn't too shabby.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 07, 2014 12:59 PM (JXmWc)

53 If dose guys at Mozilla would join da union day wudn't have dis trouble.

Posted by: Smith the Organizer at April 07, 2014 12:59 PM (a7v1j)

54 Tyring a few alternatives, the hardest part is finding a decent RSS tool, Sagewas/is hard to beat. Posted by: West at April 07, 2014 04:55 PM (1Rgee) IMHO Chrome is the best browser out there, but of course they are slightly to the left of Karl Marx. On the RSS front, try a separate one - feddly.com is outstanding - that is where most people migrated when google reader was shut down.

Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 07, 2014 12:59 PM (ubkrT)

55 52 "Happy" "Sad" Is there an adult version of this? Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 04:59 PM (GXZgZ) "Turgid" and "limp."

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2014 12:59 PM (mx5oN)

56 An example must be made of cowardice. Punish those who kowtow to fascism disguised as "tolerance"

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 07, 2014 12:59 PM (NF/JO)

57 38- Easy tool for saving bookmarks - Xmarks. You can switch back and forth between browsers and still have all of your bookmarks. Great tool.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 12:59 PM (ujDl9)

58 oops - feedly.com, that is...

Posted by: RomneyBot since 2007 at April 07, 2014 01:00 PM (ubkrT)

59 Sad: ItÂ’s sad that you would pressure a founder and the driving force behind the creation of JavaScript to leave. How can I trust Mozilla on free speech and privacy issues in their browsers after this act?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 07, 2014 01:00 PM (WX3R9)

8 @2 There are browser usage statistics...I don't think that they can tell that you've uninstalled but they can tell that you've stopped using.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 07, 2014 04:52 PM (eBNjM)

-------

Thanks.

So they will soon be noticing that people are dropping them, right?

Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2014 01:00 PM (FWbLS)

61 Regarding Pale Moon vs. Mozilla:

I speak from a position of ignorance, so bear with me. If Firefox and Pale Moon both use the same OSS baseline, does Mozilla manage/write that OSS?

Posted by: red sweater at April 07, 2014 01:00 PM (Djwm9)

62 Pale Moon all the way!

I replaced Firefox with it on every computer, and then I let the bastards know why.

Posted by: The Deuce at April 07, 2014 01:00 PM (oDCMR)

63 I told you they were assholes!

Posted by: Carrie Prejean at April 07, 2014 01:00 PM (dTh2r)

64 Bad Man! NO H8! http://tinyurl.com/at2ymro

Posted by: Anthony Fremont at April 07, 2014 01:00 PM (aTXUx)

65 PALE MOON!!

They've got a big "powered by Mozilla" graphic on their front page.

I'm not sure how switching from one Mozilla product to a different Mozilla product says "fuck you, Mozilla."

Posted by: HR at April 07, 2014 01:00 PM (ZKzrr)

66 We vouch for Pale Moon. 100% satisfaction guaranteed.

Posted by: Sailors Everywhere at April 07, 2014 01:01 PM (JXmWc)

67 I'm on Safari and about to uninstall FF on relatives' PCs, will check out Pale Moon and maybe Chrome. Ugh. In the last few years I haven't really disliked any browser, other than Safari. What a dunghill of a program. When I do web testing, Safari crashes on me about 5x more than the next worst browser. It also doesn't update settings dynamically like several others. You actually have to restart it.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:01 PM (qKrH5)

68 48. You have never heard over 50 sober sailors shouting thunder cats HO!!! Sad part is we were sober

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 07, 2014 01:01 PM (WnvXh)

69 58 38- Easy tool for saving bookmarks - Xmarks. You can switch back and forth between browsers and still have all of your bookmarks. Great tool.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 04:59 PM (ujDl9)

I use that. I didn't know it was supported in Chrome. Thanks for the info.

Posted by: red sweater at April 07, 2014 01:01 PM (Djwm9)

70 Working for the man every night and day.

Posted by: Al Sharkton at April 07, 2014 01:01 PM (bitz6)

71 Mozilla gets over 80% of its revenue from its contract with Google. Wonder how much influence google had on the decision.

Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 01:02 PM (m2CN7)

72 > Does Mozilla know when people uninstall their browser? >I mean, do they get notified somehow? @ #2 People follow browser usage very closely. If there is a significant drop in the usage of firefox, it will be noticed. http://www.sitepoint.com/browser-trends-january-2014-yearly-review/

Posted by: honkskillet at April 07, 2014 01:03 PM (DBZx5)

73 Pale Moon baby.
It's on every computer in the house.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
.........
Pale Moon IS Firefox.. built from Mozilla source code releases, but specially compiled for Windows.

I kinda feel you are still supporting Mozilla by using it.. but, I could be wrong.

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 07, 2014 01:03 PM (Z7PrM)

74 I'm a little bit miffed that the only options are "Happy" and "Sad" and not "Kiss my ass you miserable sons of bitches."

Posted by: The Deuce at April 07, 2014 01:03 PM (oDCMR)

75 Yeah, I ain't crazy about Safari. But I am crazy mad at Fuckzilla.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 07, 2014 01:03 PM (dTh2r)

76 You may want to install the new OS before killing Firefox so you can transfer info. Heh, I think you've got your terms a bit wonky there.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:03 PM (qKrH5)

I've seen where some people are calling it the GheyKK...instead of the Ghey Mafia.

Heh.

I like it. ...Because they do operate more like the KKK than the Mafia.

Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2014 01:03 PM (FWbLS)

78 A new gallup poll of bullshit: Before obamacare: 17% had no insurance After obamacare: 15.5% have no insurance What does this mean? It means Success, obamacare is working exactly as it was intended!

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 01:04 PM (jldxi)

79 77 You are correct....Browser FTW.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 01:04 PM (ojnk6)

80 With so many browsers out there now, this may not kill Mozilla off but it will definitely knock them down a notch or two.

I use Firefox cuz I can't stand IE and I need one that is compatico with all my bill paying sites. And this lousy Win 8 OS might crash if I try to change browsers; I'm not at all confident that I could recover the computer from that.

I'll just note for fun that one of the issues with MNInsure (MN's OCare site) is it wouldn't work with a number of browsers. I'd call that a feature, myself.

(and see my nic link for a delicious smackdown on The Mooch)

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 07, 2014 01:04 PM (cHZB7)

81 I am testing Opera, Opera 12.16, and Pale Moon. Pale Moon really really has the same look and feel as Firefox. Opera gives you ampers &&&& I miss the tinyurl add-on.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 07, 2014 01:04 PM (V70Uh)

82 Yeah i don't know why they caved to these shits , and got rid of one of the guys that made Mozzilla is what it is. My answer to it is. If Eich was not defended for his right to have an opinion . and He could be thrown to the wolves for having one , Why should i trust them with mine? will they also sen lists of my comments to 'helpful groups" one day how if they bend over for these shitheads , when they PURPORT to defend us from things as the nsa ? sure they would.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:04 PM (nqBYe)

83 ***I'm not sure how switching from one Mozilla product to a different Mozilla product says "fuck you, Mozilla."***

Cuz it's not a Mozilla product. It's just based off their source code.

Posted by: The Deuce at April 07, 2014 01:04 PM (oDCMR)

84 "Sad" does not quite encapsulate my putrid hatred.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 07, 2014 01:04 PM (dTh2r)

85 Wonder how much influence google had on the decision. -------- Google would never push a political view. They've promised not to be evil.

Posted by: Daybrother gas lost it and will look for it later at April 07, 2014 01:05 PM (3nhNf)

86 I believe Gaystapo is the most recently approved Style Guide term.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 01:05 PM (ojnk6)

87 79 It means lots of underachievers don't have computers or don't want worthless health plans.

Posted by: Al Sharkton at April 07, 2014 01:05 PM (bitz6)

88 anyway i'm a teck ignoramous but opera seems to work ok for me. the first day was rather rough. but now i'm just muddling along as i usually do.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:06 PM (nqBYe)

89 I moved onto Chrome today. Used FF for a looooong time. They had a nice browser there. Be a shame if something were to happen to it.

Posted by: Corona at April 07, 2014 01:06 PM (fh2Y7)

90 we lose either way. In fact, it might be worse if companies can not just fire the target of progressive fascism to solve the problem. Now every company will have to scrutinize all candidates for potential "enemy of the state" type issues, and anyone with ambition will avoid anything that goes against the fascist doctrine. The entire business community is sufficiently "encouraged" and progressivism takes another leap toward controlling everyone's life. The only solution is to turn it around and do enough damage to a site like OKfascism, that *they* think twice before using these tactics.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 07, 2014 01:06 PM (LWu6U)

91 Barring cloud cover, I believe that if you look to the southwest quadrant tonight, you'll be able to see Big Anus clearly from the North American continent for the first time in ninety two years.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 07, 2014 01:06 PM (ZshNr)

92 fgs, tech*

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:06 PM (nqBYe)

93 Just looked at Pale Moon- it's "powered by Mozilla," meaning it's a Firefox company. The only difference is that a few versions ago Firefox made some software decisions that Pale Moon doesn't use. But it's still a Mozilla product.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 01:06 PM (ujDl9)

94 Remember, obamacare was supposed to do 3 things: 1. Provide health care coverage for everyone. 2. Lower health care costs. 3. Improve the quality of health care. It has done NONE of these. Indeed, obamacare has achieved the exact opposite of what it was supposed to do. Meanwhile, the Republicans..

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 01:07 PM (jldxi)

95 Also, note that firefox has been in a long term market share free fall. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Basically Chrome has been eating it's lunch.

Posted by: honkskillet at April 07, 2014 01:07 PM (DBZx5)

96 I dumped FF today, and got SRWare Iron. Its based on Chrome, but without the direct link to the NSA storage bins at GHQ. It MIGHT be a memory hog, but FF was too.

Posted by: JarvisW at April 07, 2014 01:07 PM (E7Iyp)

97 Proudly reading this post on my new Opera browser.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at April 07, 2014 01:07 PM (ZMzpb)

98 Facts:
1. Google is the prime financier behind Firefox / Mozilla. As in 85% of their funding comes from Google.
2. Chrome is100% Google.

Supposition:
Google was in a very strong position to influence the decision to oust Eich. I suspect they supported the decision, perhaps even driving it, but that is just my belief.

Conclusion:
If you are trying to show disapproval of Mozilla's actions, switching to Chrome is probably not a good way to do so.

I switched to Pale Moon,and have been very happy with it so far.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 07, 2014 01:07 PM (IN7k+)

99 As I understand it, Mozilla created Firefox from "shareware", open source files. I think they had to keep it "open-source". Therefore, yes, the browser is built using many of the same source code. However, Mozilla doesn't get a nickel from Pale Moon.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 07, 2014 01:07 PM (V70Uh)

100 I'm looking at this on IE - not sure why I never used IE, it doesn't crash with ads - which I had to run ad remover for on fired-fucks.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 07, 2014 01:08 PM (pgQxn)

101 I use Firefox cuz I can't stand IE and I need one that is compatico with all my bill paying sites. And this lousy Win 8 OS might crash if I try to change browsers; I'm not at all confident that I could recover the computer from that. Damn.....is Win 8 that feakin bad?

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 01:08 PM (GXZgZ)

102 I use BigBoobs as my browser, Google it, I think you'll like it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 07, 2014 01:08 PM (5UteM)

103 I've heard that Pale Moon is pretty much in bed with Mozilla so I've looked for alternatives. I don't want to support Google or Microshaft since they also have proven themselves to be suckers of the governments cock. I only use their other things if I absolutely have no other choice (like online translators). I've been checking out the Maxthon and Comodo Dragon browsers. So far so good on both. But chances are they probably donate all profits to the Democrat party as well.

Posted by: Arcadehero at April 07, 2014 01:08 PM (27BfC)

104 @74 After reading their website it seems the designer is from Sweden. He took the open-source coding from Firefox and made some changes for easier use. Is he just crediting Mozilla ? Nothing goes back to them does it?

Posted by: SnowyBits at April 07, 2014 01:08 PM (NqhG2)

105 Posted by: A message at April 07, 2014 04:51 PM (fsHdl) I may be wrong but when I was importing bookmarks from FF I saw sea monkey in the Mozilla folder. IDK

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 07, 2014 01:08 PM (/djtm)

106 Off topic: Been listening to the Texas Senate open hearing on open carry today. Someone from the University of Austin is arguing against open carry because it might be a Â“triggerÂ”. It might trigger severe reactions in victims of violence. 8-9% of the US has this form of PTSD, she says. She hasnÂ’t (yet) said bloodbath. But if 10% of the US will be set off by open carry of guns, thereÂ’s no other conclusion. CanÂ’t imagine how any still exists in the other states that already have open carry. Oh, and if we have open carry, people who have PTSD will avoid Texas, resulting in economic depression. Good God.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 07, 2014 01:08 PM (WX3R9)

107 Pale Moon & NoScript. Working great.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:09 PM (aDwsi)

108 100 As I understand it, Mozilla created Firefox from "shareware", open source files. I think they had to keep it "open-source". Therefore, yes, the browser is built using many of the same source code. However, Mozilla doesn't get a nickel from Pale Moon. But it shows up as Mozilla when doing browser statistics.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 07, 2014 01:09 PM (pgQxn)

109 99- Anon Y. Mous: Pale Moon is run by Mozilla. It's just another one of their products.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 01:09 PM (ujDl9)

110 ok i really am not a legal geek either. but what does this mean with licensing and does that make Palemoon a subsidiary of firfox or not? wiki Like Firefox, Pale Moon is released open source, with the source code residing under the Mozilla Public License 2.0 except for parts relating to branding. Unlike Firefox, however, the Pale Moon binaries may only be redistributed under certain conditions.[4] According to the author, this is to prevent the possibility of any confusion with tainted versions. The project's name, logo, and other artwork are the intellectual property of M.C. Straver, and cannot be used in other third party Firefox builds or other related products without the author's prior permission.[14

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:09 PM (nqBYe)

111 Huh. "Mo" - zilla. I denounce myself.

Posted by: blaster at April 07, 2014 01:10 PM (4+AaH)

112 That Eich guy is a pussy.

Posted by: Phil Robertson at April 07, 2014 01:10 PM (LSJmV)

113 Minx is owned by Mozilla. Let's move AOSHQ back to EZBoards.

Posted by: Corona at April 07, 2014 01:10 PM (fh2Y7)

114 27 Absolutely. I have as little use for companies that cave in to pi$$ant bullies as I do for the bullies themselves. Susan G. Komen comes to mind. Posted by: Sam In VA at April 07, 2014 04:55 PM (Q52VH) --------------------- Yep. A friend of mine died of breast cancer several months ago. The family requested donations to SGKomen in lieu of flowers. Nope. We made a donation to a local support-and-help group instead.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 07, 2014 01:10 PM (dfYL9)

115 If Chrome and Pale Moon are in bed with Mozilla, then eff them too. I'll wait my five minute page loads with Safari and IE.

Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 07, 2014 01:10 PM (dTh2r)

116 I've been using Opera as a back-up for years. Very quick on my Mac and works fine when ~~Netscape Navigator~~ Safari craps out (which is often since it is designed as crap).

Posted by: Daybrother lost it but will look for it later at April 07, 2014 01:10 PM (/x4R5)

117 Cuz it's not a Mozilla product. It's just based off their source code.
Posted by: The Deuce
...........
Duh. What do you think a software's company's "product" is? Arugula?

No.. it's source code.. compiling is just the last easy step.

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 07, 2014 01:10 PM (Z7PrM)

118 I use BigBoobs as my browser, Google it, I think you'll like it. brb......

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 01:10 PM (GXZgZ)

119 I donÂ’t think Pale Moon is run by Mozilla. It just uses their code.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 07, 2014 01:11 PM (WX3R9)

120 I want the ghey mafia to go after all the democrats who voted affirmative to the Defense of Marriage Act and signed by the Sleazster Bill Clinton. Eich only gave a few bucks. Those that I mentioned voted for a law on the hill. But, hypocrisy......

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2014 01:11 PM (HVff2)

121 Does Mozilla know when people uninstall their browser? I mean, do they get notified somehow? ------------------------------ Answer: YES - If you use the 'uninstaller' which is part of the Firefox application, a report of your un-installation is made to Mozilla.

Posted by: alwyr at April 07, 2014 01:11 PM (V0j3u)

122

Where is our PurpAv?

I hope he's okay...has anybody heard from him?

Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2014 01:11 PM (FWbLS)

123 I'm ok with M$ in that they tell you they're assholes from the get-go. None of this "don't be evil" shit from Satan dressed as pajama lad.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 07, 2014 01:11 PM (pgQxn)

124 Does Chrome still look like a blank sheet of printer paper? That's why I dumped it.

Posted by: Al Sharkton at April 07, 2014 01:11 PM (bitz6)

125 I hate fucking sea monkeys.

Is it the sand or the salt water?

Posted by: Trojans TV lube division[/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:12 PM (DL2i+)

126 I laughed as I uninstalled Mozilla from 7 machines today. hardy-har-har.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 07, 2014 01:12 PM (pgQxn)

127 Go to Pale Moon's home page, and follow the link at the top to "Information"

Pale Moon is NOT a Mozilla product, but uses the open source (Non-copywrited) software code that Firefox is based on.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 01:12 PM (hDwVv)

128 yeah i can't see doing chrome either i do not know how many connection Opera has but it has a google facilitator on home screen so ^%$

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:13 PM (nqBYe)

129 Someone from the University of Austin is arguing against open carry because it might be a Â“triggerÂ”. It might trigger severe reactions in victims of violence. This is a relevation about police shootings during traffic stops!

Posted by: Piers defective Organ at April 07, 2014 01:13 PM (wu/TK)

130 Uninstalled last night. Left them a message exactly as to why this morning.

Posted by: DangerGirl at home with her Sanity Prod at April 07, 2014 01:13 PM (GrtrJ)

131 "I hate fucking sea monkeys." More than Mimes, Clowns and Midgets?

Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2014 01:13 PM (u2a4R)

132 125 Yep, But that's what I like about it on my Andriod tablet. It's clean, no clutter.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 01:13 PM (ojnk6)

133 I use firefox and Opera, and do not intend to change. Firefox is a victim here, and yes, they should have stood firm, but I can not blame them for seeking the easy, cowardly, solution. Business is business and at the point where an employee becomes a liability, they needed to worry about market share and image. My fault with them is that they thought they took the easy solution, but there is no appeasing fascist and bullies. The only workable solution was a punch in the nose, but they were too cowardly to risk their company on that approach. I would have told them to turn it around and give a full throttled attack on OKstassi. Make it about free speech, democracy, and fascism. Have the other side call for a truce.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 07, 2014 01:13 PM (LWu6U)

134 And this lousy Win 8 OS might crash if I try to change browsers; I'm not at all confident that I could recover the computer from that. Damn.....is Win 8 that feakin bad? No, it's not. Almost everyone's complaint with Win8 is the UI. That and how some apps are Metro and some aren't. It's a bit schizophrenic that way. As far as startup time, memory management, stability, and etc. it's a solid OS. Blue screens are almost always hardware malfunctions.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:13 PM (qKrH5)

135 OT/ Has anyone else read that story on Drudge that says the Rev. Al was an FBI informant?

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 07, 2014 01:14 PM (9+ccr)

136

122...If you use the 'uninstaller' which is part of the Firefox application, a report of your un-installation is made to Mozilla.

Posted by: alwyr at April 07, 2014 05:11 PM (V0j3u)

----------

Oh really? ....Good!

I hope they are experiencing an avalanche of 'uninstall reports'.

Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2014 01:14 PM (FWbLS)

137 From Pale Moon's forum
The specific question being asked by many here, and it's answer

http://tinyurl.com/lojzzk4

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 01:14 PM (hDwVv)

138 Hard to believe how small IE's market share is. Bill and Melinda should take a break from poisoning third world children and look into improving their crappy browser.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 07, 2014 01:14 PM (bitz6)

139 Someone from the University of Austin is arguing against open carry because it might be a Â“triggerÂ”. It might trigger severe reactions in victims of violence. Umm, I am thinking that someone who sees a gun and attacks the person carrying it, because reasons, is going to get triggered.

Posted by: blaster at April 07, 2014 01:15 PM (4+AaH)

140 Proudly reading this post on my new Opera browser. Posted by: Emperor ------------------- FWIW, I tried Opera for a couple of days. After reading positive comments re Pale Moon here, I gave it a go. It is great. If you liked FF, you might give Pale Moon a go. Here is Pale Moon software that imports FF profile. Only takes seconds to run. http://www.palemoon.org/migrationtool.shtml

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:15 PM (aDwsi)

141 I don't often save my bookmarks but when I do I save them in the cloud. There's an app for that.

Posted by: Smith the Infoment at April 07, 2014 01:15 PM (a7v1j)

142 John Schindler ‏@20committee Multiple official Kyiv sources now claiming #Ukraine SOF operation to liberate SBU HQ in Donetsk complete, no official word on casualties.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:15 PM (ZPrif)

143 "Oh, and if we have open carry, people who have PTSD will avoid Texas, resulting in economic depression. Good God." The stupid. It burns. There's a local burrito place that always always always has cops/fireman/EMT's/soldiers there. I mean, literally every time I've been, one or more of the above groups is there. Well, anyway once I went when the place was at capacity, and the guy in front of me was a Texas Ranger with his gun very prominently displayed on his hip. Somehow we all refrained from, I don't know, trying to steal it from him and having a shoot out. It was a pretty scary gun too. Very shiny.

Posted by: Lauren at April 07, 2014 01:15 PM (hFL/3)

144 Opera seems to work really well.. and AdBlockPlus is available as an add-on.

Be careful of deleting FireFox too quickly, though.

I have a bunch of saved passwords in it and I have been going through and documenting them.

And I have 5-6 years of Bookmarks on each of my computers I have to wade through and weed out the crud.

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 07, 2014 01:16 PM (Z7PrM)

145 The Interpreter ‏@Interpreter_Mag Ukraine Liveblog: Fires spreading at Kharkiv administration building, held by separatists http://bit.ly/1mUF7U2 pic.twitter.com/yjZx1pc6wL

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:16 PM (ZPrif)

146 &&&&&& This has been a test of the Emergency Ampersand System.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 07, 2014 01:16 PM (0HooB)

147 Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 07, 2014 05:13 PM (LWu6U)use firefox and Opera, and do not intend to change. Firefox is a victim here, and yes, they should have stood firm, but I can not blame them for seeking the easy, cowardly, solution. Business is business and at the point where an employee becomes a liability, they needed to worry about market share and image. --------- Why should i now trust them to not give up any information on me? when they sold out their own ceo?

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:16 PM (nqBYe)

148 Hold it..., is Pale Moon related to Moon Unit? Asking for a friend...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:16 PM (aDwsi)

149 Posted by: Corona at April 07, 2014 05:10 PM (fh2Y7) If true, that hurts. Bad.

Posted by: Golfman in NC at April 07, 2014 01:16 PM (/djtm)

150 Ok, so, serious question.

By boycotting Mozilla for their (politically motivated) actions, are we doing the same thing they did to Eich?

Problem:

I think it sets a dangerous precedent when we start firing people and publicly trashing them because they support a political opinion different from our own.

For this reason, I'm pissed at Mozilla.

On the other hand, firing Mozilla (using a different browser) and posting angry comments online is the only thing I am really capable of doing to protest that action.

So... frustrated.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 01:16 PM (ujDl9)

151 I have been using the Comodo Dragon browser since I dumped FF over 2 years ago. Love it. Works like Chrome, better than average security, and not affiliated with Google.

Posted by: Thrill at April 07, 2014 01:16 PM (vxBxx)

152 you yanks spell it "revelation," but I'm still correct high up here in David Gregory elevations.

Posted by: Piers defective Organ at April 07, 2014 01:17 PM (wu/TK)

153 I don't often save my bookmarks but when I do I save them in the cloud. We know.

Posted by: The NSA at April 07, 2014 01:17 PM (4+AaH)

154 Pale Moon's author has a blog.
With comments concerning the latest kerfuffle, and his position on it.

http://tinyurl.com/mwqav7s

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 01:17 PM (hDwVv)

155 have added sad, and told them I am uninstalling on all work computers, and home computers. SUX 2B THEM

Posted by: CUS at April 07, 2014 01:17 PM (wcLJG)

156 I was wondering whether OKStassi was getting any negative feedback.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 01:17 PM (XyM/Y)

157 Umm, I am thinking that someone who sees a gun and attacks the person carrying it, because reasons, is going to get triggered. I thinkÂ—and she was vague, so I could be wrongÂ—that she was also saying it might cause victims of violence to go into some sort of cowering shock, uncontrollable crying, etc. ItÂ’s a womenÂ’s issue! Which is necessary for their side, because a lot of the public in favor of open carry are women doing so because they find it harder to carry concealed than men do.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 07, 2014 01:17 PM (WX3R9)

158 Does F3 work in any of these non IE browsers?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 07, 2014 01:18 PM (bitz6)

159 >> Damn.....is Win 8 that feakin bad?

It crashed on day 1 when I was installing stuff from the Web; had to go to a restore point and try again in a different install order. Backed it up to a thumb drive; tried to do an updated backup and it no longer recognizes the drive.

Those are just two of the fun new features in Win 8.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 07, 2014 01:18 PM (cHZB7)

160 I once told a corporate vice president I was disgusted by wet farts. He totes agreed with my assessment.

Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2014 01:18 PM (oJUxt)

161 one comment by wee wo or whatever on firefozx imput that was trying to exlin what happened (insider) said don't blame firefox while in a further comment said, only 10 'groupies' inside Mozzila firefox were on board getting rid of eich so .

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:18 PM (nqBYe)

162 @138 VIA, thanks for that link. It was a bit confusing seeing powered by Mozilla on the website.

Posted by: SnowyBits at April 07, 2014 01:18 PM (NqhG2)

163 "With comments concerning the latest kerfuffle, and his position on it." *cautiously clicks link, ready for disappointment*

Posted by: Lauren at April 07, 2014 01:19 PM (hFL/3)

164 This has been a test of the Emergency Ampersand System. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, ----------------- If this had been an actual emergency, you would have been instructed to use subscripts...., and I would have been shouting..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:19 PM (aDwsi)

165 Off topic: Been listening to the Texas Senate open hearing on open carry today. Someone from the University of Austin is arguing against open carry because it might be a Â“triggerÂ”. It might trigger severe reactions in victims of violence. ...Oh, and if we have open carry, people who have PTSD will avoid Texas, resulting in economic depression. Good God. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair I don't suppose anyone will point out that all those armed fed SWAT teams or even the local LEOs can trigger the same. How about DPS troopers at the Capital, right now. Actually the DSM V was supposed to include a "third person" cause of PTSD: If someone saw a picture that someone else filmed of a traumatic event, that 3rd person could be Dx with PTSD. Of course that would include everyone on Earth, but that never stopped a shrink convention.

Posted by: Daybrother lost it but will look for it later at April 07, 2014 01:20 PM (w/7q+)

166 I think it sets a dangerous precedent when we start firing people and publicly trashing them because they support a political opinion different from our own. For this reason, I'm pissed at Mozilla-------- --- Why should i believe they would protect our information and PRIVACY after this?

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:20 PM (nqBYe)

167 A lot of people, including some liberals, are just tired of being dictated to by the thought police, the speech police, the food police, the grievance mongers, and the people who go through life looking for reasons to be offended. Tired of it, sick of it, and I don't want to hear any more from the professionals whiners about "triggers".

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 07, 2014 01:20 PM (dPc6Y)

168 138- Fantastic. Thanks for the linkage.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 01:20 PM (ujDl9)

169 I thinkÂ—and she was vague, so I could be wrongÂ—that she was also saying it might cause victims of violence to go into some sort of cowering shock, uncontrollable crying, etc. ItÂ’s a womenÂ’s issue! Well... Remember the McDonald's shooting out in Stockton, CA? There was a young woman who was the sole surviving McDonald's employee from that attack. She got an appointment to West Point. When she went to her first uniform issue point, she broke down crying (the shooter was wearing camo). Same thing when she was on the range.

Posted by: blaster at April 07, 2014 01:20 PM (4+AaH)

170 Posted by: willow

Your last comment was a train-wreck.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 07, 2014 01:20 PM (5UteM)

171 With Pale Moon, do I keep my ampersands?

&&&&&&&&&&&

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at April 07, 2014 01:20 PM (V2cSj)

172

Book:

In the real world, when you are punched by a bully you can do one of two things: 1) Take it like a bitch; OR 2) punch back twice as hard

I choose the latter. Boycott the fuck out of all these ghey nazi companies.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 07, 2014 01:21 PM (tVTLU)

173 fuck!

Noscript it is!

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at April 07, 2014 01:21 PM (V2cSj)

174 It might trigger severe reactions in victims of violence. Always lacking the data. You know what else might trigger someone? Feathers. There are people out there that are deathly afraid of feathers. How many are there? I don't know. But if I were trying to ban feathers in public for this reason, I would have that data.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:21 PM (qKrH5)

175 Book
To answer your question....
I am not demanding the resignation of any member of Mozilla's staff.

I am seeking to take my business to another platform.
But I am not making demands that any person change their opinions on a subject.

And that is the difference between them and us.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 01:21 PM (hDwVv)

176 159-- * presses F3, searches * Works fine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:21 PM (aDwsi)

177 110 99- Anon Y. Mous: Pale Moon is run by Mozilla. It's just another one of their products.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 05:09 PM (ujDl9)

++++

No, you're wrong. Pale Moon is not run by the same company as Firefox (Mozilla). It is based on the same open source code.

I personally do not have anything against the code that is behind Firefox. I am displeased by the management of the Mozilla Corporation. So, by switching to Pale Moon, I have stopped interacting with the management of Mozilla. True, Pale Moon is based on the same code, but the code is neutral. It is just a tool.

As a bonus, Pale Moon has optimized the code, so Pale Moon runs a bit snappier for me than Firefox did, plus all my add-ons still work.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 07, 2014 01:21 PM (IN7k+)

178 *reads link* Good for the Pale Moon guy. *phew*

Posted by: Lauren at April 07, 2014 01:22 PM (hFL/3)

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Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:22 PM (nqBYe)

180 ---
Why should i believe they would protect our information and PRIVACY after this?

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 05:20 PM (nqBYe)

Was Eich "outed" by Mozilla? Just curious- I actually don't know.

If not, I'm not sure what privacy/ security has to do with his being forced to resign.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 01:22 PM (ujDl9)

181 It might trigger severe reactions in victims of violence. Always lacking the data. You know what else might trigger someone? Feathers. There are people out there that are deathly afraid of feathers. How many are there? I don't know. But if I were trying to ban feathers in public for this reason, I would have that data. Posted by: bonhomme ------------------ Spiders, man. F'cking spiders. One of our number might just open fire...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:22 PM (aDwsi)

182 You would think liberals are tired of being afraid they will say something relatively innocent and be the target of a viral lynching the next day. PC bloodsport.

Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2014 01:23 PM (u2a4R)

183 49 It doesn't matter if Google or Apple are left. This is about fascist thuggery.
Posted by: Teh Most Interesting Man at April 07, 2014 04:58 PM (dTh2r)

Google I simply cannot trust.
Apple has politely requested that if you don't go along with Global Warming that you not use its products.

Pale Moon, even though it's streamlined Mozilla (Firefox Lite), works great.

I could be wrong, but I think it was the Firefox team that apologized to the world for my viewpoint that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Not Mozilla.

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 07, 2014 01:23 PM (ZALPg)

184 Watch out for Noscript .....it makes some things that use pop-ups not work right.

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 01:23 PM (VhqUZ)

185 175 It might trigger severe reactions in victims of violence. Always lacking the data. You know what else might trigger someone? Feathers. There are people out there that are deathly afraid of feathers. How many are there? I don't know. But if I were trying to ban feathers in public for this reason, I would have that data. Posted by: bonhomme at April 07, 2014 05:21 PM (qKrH5) I've got a cousin with a cotton ball phobia.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 07, 2014 01:23 PM (Dss2y)

186 Book is starting to smell trolllish...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:23 PM (aDwsi)

187 Leftists have both the initiative and viciousness on their side.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:24 PM (9W+0f)

188 @172-Testing&&&&&&&&&&.
Yes?

Posted by: SnowyBits at April 07, 2014 01:24 PM (NqhG2)

189 Hence, they tend to win.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:24 PM (9W+0f)

190 "Someone from the University of Austin is arguing against open carry because it might be a 'trigger'."

"University of Austin?" Which does not so far as I know exist.

Or UT Austin?

So, um, not to go and drag objective hard-sciences logic and facts into a nice soft subjectivist social-sciences polemic, but why hasn't there been this imagined epidemic of "triggering" already, in places where open carry is legal?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2014 01:24 PM (noWW6)

191 If it bothers you to uninstall FireFox for political reasons then consider this : When employees spend time fighting the boss, they are spending less time trying to produce a quality product, less time innovating, and all too often more time sabotaging the product to make trouble for the boss. Case in point US auto industry and UAW

Posted by: Smith the Infoment at April 07, 2014 01:24 PM (a7v1j)

192 Yes, the statement by the guy at Pale Moon on what happened at Mozilla was pretty good. Thanks to the person who initially posted the link.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 01:24 PM (XyM/Y)

193 And society and decency tend to lose.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:24 PM (9W+0f)

194
I am seeking to take my business to another platform.
But I am not making demands that any person change their opinions on a subject.

And that is the difference between them and us.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 05:21 P

Good point.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 01:25 PM (ujDl9)

195 "I've got a cousin with a cotton ball phobia." Makes sense. Slather 'em with petroleum jelly and watch 'em burn.

Posted by: Lauren at April 07, 2014 01:25 PM (hFL/3)

196 Dammit. There was my out. Short memories and all.

Posted by: Charles Whitman at April 07, 2014 01:25 PM (/djtm)

197 None for me

Posted by: SnowyBits at April 07, 2014 01:25 PM (NqhG2)

198 It crashed on day 1 when I was installing stuff from the Web; had to go to a restore point and try again in a different install order. Backed it up to a thumb drive; tried to do an updated backup and it no longer recognizes the drive. Those are just two of the fun new features in Win 8. Posted by: GnuBreed Have you had a professional look at the computer? There are lots of possible reasons for that type of behavior.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:25 PM (qKrH5)

199 Watch out for Noscript .....it makes some things that use pop-ups not work right. Posted by: eleven --------------- True..., that is because it is doing it's job. When you find that a benevolent script is being blocked, then punch the 'Options' button and allow that page.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:25 PM (aDwsi)

200 Wasn't the decision to quit the CEO's decision and not that of the company's

Posted by: Rightrt at April 07, 2014 01:26 PM (hgoUH)

201 I wanna keep FF, I really do. So I'm going to wait a few days. But I'm sad, too. They ruined a good product by kow-toweling to an extremist fringe group. Shades of Nazi Germany. ---------------------------------------- May I ask why ON EARTH you're "going to wait a few days" before uninstalling FF???????? Are you waiting for Mozilla to issue some B.S. statement to the effect that this was just a minor misunderstanding? Or perhaps a 'promise' even though they've done nothing wrong, they'll never do it again???????

Posted by: alwyr at April 07, 2014 01:26 PM (V0j3u)

202 Leftists initiate, Conservatives react. Conservatives lack a positive agenda of their own. Therefore, all they ever really accomplish is slowing Leftism down.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:26 PM (9W+0f)

203 "University of Austin?" Which does not so far as I know exist. Or UT Austin? I could very well have misheard it. Or she might have been embarrassed to include the Â“of TexasÂ” part.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 07, 2014 01:26 PM (WX3R9)

204 I've got a cousin with a cotton ball phobia. Just tell him they're giant spider eggs.

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 01:26 PM (VhqUZ)

205 I could be wrong, but I think it was the Firefox team that apologized to the world for my viewpoint that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Not Mozilla.

Posted by: jwb7605
................
Is that you, Mr. Eich?

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at April 07, 2014 01:27 PM (Z7PrM)

206 Yeah, sometimes NoScript works too well. But if you want a blocked pop-up to pop-up, just look at your address bar for a symbol to allow it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 01:27 PM (jldxi)

207 Count me in as well. I've been using Pale Moon for a while now, and added Codomo's IceDragon as a secondary (Also built on Mozilla architecture.) browser. I may give the Epic browser a try, I already have SRWare Iron, but I'm not really a fan of Chrome-style browsers (I have it to access those sites that are blocking Mozilla-style browsers).

I sorta prefer IceDragon (a slightly lighter RAM foot-print), but either one works for me... http://is.gd/hNdcBO (I recommend opting out of their integrated DNS function, the browser will run faster without it.) And, I all of my preferred Add-ons work just fine with this browser.

And, for those of you who have uninstalled FF, if you have Glary Utilities, you may want to do a registry defrag. I gained about a 15+ % reduction in space after the uninstall.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at April 07, 2014 01:27 PM (lJaja)

208 I think that's mainly the message. If you thought you could be hurt by a vocal minority, wait until the majority really shows you what they can do. In the long run, this will lead to more tempered solutions to kerfuffle's like this.

Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2014 01:27 PM (cAr2x)

209 "I could very well have misheard it. Or she might have been embarrassed to include the Â“of TexasÂ” part" Could have been Stephen F. Austin University.

Posted by: Lauren at April 07, 2014 01:27 PM (hFL/3)

210 "I've got a cousin with a cotton ball phobia."

Well....alrighty then.

Posted by: Peter Rabbit at April 07, 2014 01:27 PM (hDwVv)

211 When employees spend time fighting the boss, they are spending less time trying to produce a quality product, less time innovating, and all too often more time sabotaging the product to make trouble for the boss. Case in point US auto industry and UAW Posted by: Smith --------------- ... and the education industry..., or at least the unionized education industry, and damn near the entire post HS system.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:27 PM (aDwsi)

212 They should be made to fear more the backlash if they do. Fear common sense? Microagression.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2014 01:28 PM (IXrOn)

213 201 Wasn't the decision to quit the CEO's decision and not that of the company's Posted by: Rightrt

Absolutely. That's why right after his resignation, Mozilla apologized for not quitting him sooner.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 07, 2014 01:28 PM (5UteM)

214 I've uninstalled it, you mean I can do more??

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 07, 2014 01:29 PM (+JbYP)

215 Tired of it, sick of it, and I don't want to hear any more from the professionals whiners about "triggers". If they lack self-control, that is in no way my fault. If they choose to be offended, that's their problem. I'd love to hear this exchange: "He made me feel (insert emotional overreaction here)." "Really? Then give me $50." "I will not!" "But you just said this guy made you feel (insert emotional overreaction here), which proves anyone can make you feel anything at any time. I want to make you feel generous."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 07, 2014 01:29 PM (0HooB)

216 Yeah he left willingly. Riiight.

Posted by: Adam at April 07, 2014 01:30 PM (Aif/5)

217

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 07, 2014 05:08 PM (WX3R9)

diametrically opposite reasons, but I don't like open carry where concealed carry is already in place. If someone is open carrying in my neighborhood where I don't know the person , I will confront them, in a prudent manner, because I have constructive knowledge that they are armed but I have no idea why they are where they are and I have a sense of duty to protect myself and my neighbors. I would be remissed if I just ignored it and that person had bad intentions

Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 01:30 PM (m2CN7)

218 Mike Hammer- Heh. No troll. Been around for years, just not an active commenter. Genuinely curious. I happen to agree with Ace regarding punishing people for having differing opinions, and I hate the "tribal" culture thing he was talking about a while ago just as much as he does. I'm planning on uninstalling FF tonight, but I genuinely want to think about this and make sure I'm doing it for the right reasons. Not just because everyone else is.

Okie doke?

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 01:30 PM (ujDl9)

219 True..., that is because it is doing it's job. When you find that a benevolent script is being blocked, then punch the 'Options' button and allow that page. Here's the problem though. HTML 5 is CSS + html + JavaScript. There are significant portions of the web now and in development that just don't run right without some scripting. That's fine if all you're doing is viewing text. Lynx is great for that. But if you're planning on using the web much in the next few years, shutting off JavaScript isn't gonna get you there.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:30 PM (qKrH5)

220 I've uninstalled it, you mean I can do more?? Umm......fart in their general direction?

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 01:30 PM (VhqUZ)

221 The irony of the left becoming so vile, and violent (i.e. confronting CEO's and politicians at their homes), is that the only answer is to have a loaded shotgun (via Joey) inside the front door. Arm the "right." And, I do not mean just republicans.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2014 01:30 PM (IXrOn)

222 >> Damn.....is Win 8 that feakin bad?

It crashed on day 1 when I was installing stuff from the Web; had to go to a restore point and try again in a different install order. Backed it up to a thumb drive; tried to do an updated backup and it no longer recognizes the drive.

Those are just two of the fun new features in Win 8.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 07, 2014 05:18 PM (cHZB7)

I don't know what you guys are running Win 8 on to be having so many problems. I have a Toshiba Qosmio laptop with quad core processor, 12 gig ram and have no problems in the year I've had the machine. I do some heavy duty video editing on this machine using Pinnacle 17 and other editing programs and have had no problems at all. I've had a few freezes while using Pinnacle, but those were Pinnacle issues. Win 8 has been very fast and very stable.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at April 07, 2014 01:31 PM (tAoev)

223 Oh, please. This is nonsense. Did Eich HAVE to resign-probably NOT technically. Was he strongly urged to do so by the loving tolerant leftist over there at Mozilla? Yes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 01:31 PM (XyM/Y)

224 Nude

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 07, 2014 01:31 PM (5UteM)

225 Yes, the statement by the guy at Pale Moon on what happened at Mozilla was pretty good. Thanks to the person who initially posted the link. Posted by: Fenelon ?

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:31 PM (nqBYe)

226 If I uninstall FF how do I run TOR? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Daybrother at April 07, 2014 01:31 PM (NQuU7)

227 "Nice family you have there, Mr Eich, it'd be a shame if something happened to them. Now sign this resignation paper and it will all go away and they can stay among the living."

Posted by: Mozilla at April 07, 2014 01:31 PM (hFL/3)

228 Leftists are waging a war on Christianity, stable monogamy, and tradition, and therefore established societal order as both a fact and a principle. In a healthy society, the Progays and the Proabortionists, and all the other imbeciles like the Propolygynists would simply be a negligible minority.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:31 PM (9W+0f)

229 Out before the Microsoft Fanboy.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 07, 2014 01:32 PM (bitz6)

230 Well applied for two Federal jobs using Firefox.

Maybe that will get me bumped up?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 07, 2014 01:32 PM (L50WF)

231 #225-In respect to Rightrt.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 01:32 PM (XyM/Y)

232 Game-changer is over-used term. Think it applies here. Defense News ‏@defense_news US Navy: Converting Seawater Into Fuel a 'Game-Changer' http://bit.ly/PHeJiz

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:32 PM (ZPrif)

233 False noods are punishable.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 01:32 PM (jldxi)

234 212 "I've got a cousin with a cotton ball phobia." Well....alrighty then. Posted by: Peter Rabbit at April 07, 2014 05:27 PM (hDwVv) It was funny finding out. It was at our aunt's funeral viewing and just talking either her and her brothers and it got mentioned. Like how they would torment her with cotton balls in her shoes. Or how she freaked when she got a cut on her face and her friend was going to clean it with a cotton ball dipped in peroxide. So during that I looked up if it had a phobia name which it did. And as I turned my phone to show her as the page kept loading the classic grade school Santa with a cotton ball beard loaded and she proceeded to recoil in fear from it.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 07, 2014 01:33 PM (Dss2y)

235 I type nude, so sue me.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 07, 2014 01:33 PM (5UteM)

236 DefenseNews: US experts have found out how to extract carbon dioxide and hydrogen gas from seawater. Then, using a catalytic converter, they transformed them into a fuel by a gas-to-liquids process. They hope the fuel will not only be able to power ships, but also planes. ... The predicted cost of jet fuel using the technology is in the range of three to six dollars per gallon, say experts at the US Naval Research Laboratory, who have already flown a model airplane with fuel produced from seawater. Dr Heather Willauer, an research chemist who has spent nearly a decade on the project, can hardly hide her enthusiasm. Â“For the first time weÂ’ve been able to develop a technology to get CO2 and hydrogen from seawater simultaneously, thatÂ’s a big breakthrough,Â” she said, adding that the fuel Â“doesnÂ’t look or smell very different.Â” That means instead of relying on tankers, ships will be able to produce fuel at sea.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:33 PM (ZPrif)

237 Link for Pale Moon guy statement on Mozilla decision: http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4178

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 01:33 PM (XyM/Y)

238 They got to try and convert seawater just to make the Mabus purchase of bio-diesel seem cheap at $16/gallon.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 07, 2014 01:33 PM (L50WF)

239 Okie doke? Posted by: Book --------- Okie doke. Didn't mean to be hair trigger, but the FF thing has hypersensitized my nerve endings. That's no excuse, however. My apologies. I denounce myself

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:34 PM (aDwsi)

240 willow
Follow the link.
It takes you to the thoughts and position of the writer of the Pale Moon software that we are talking about

http://tinyurl.com/mwqav7s

Posted by: Peter Rabbit at April 07, 2014 01:34 PM (hDwVv)

241 >> Have you had a professional look at the computer? There are lots of possible reasons for that type of behavior.

Brand new computer; brand new thumb drive bought specifically to back it up. I ran Win 7 for over 3 years and had to do a restore once in that entire time. So I'm blaming Win 8.

But that's just me. But it's the reason I have little confidence in changing much on the thing as I just don't want more headaches.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 07, 2014 01:34 PM (cHZB7)

242 But, they've coopted the mechanisms of shame and guilt, as well as pure power, and they leverage them to destabilize society and Christianity and silence all opposition.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:34 PM (9W+0f)

243 Google has transended being a "company". It's now an evil religion. If you speak with the followers (employees) about their Google AdWords algorithms, they are convinced of the infalibility of their god. All you need to do is spend the entirety of your life learning the AdWords ways while turning your worldly possessions over to Google and it's search engine will smile on you. Pure fucking evil.

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Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 05:22 PM (nqBYe)

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And this is the main reason I don't indulge in twitter. It's unreadable.

Posted by: Soona at April 07, 2014 01:35 PM (gd8mn)

245 "Doing Good Is Part of Our Code" Mozilla's motto on their home page. No, you can't make this crap up.

Posted by: weirdflunky at April 07, 2014 01:36 PM (ner2b)

246 False noods are punishable. We will give you such a pinch!

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 01:36 PM (GXZgZ)

247 In peace-time, and even in war when you have secure supply lines, traditional oil resupply would probably be cheaper. But a seawater to fuels process that an aircraft carrier or destroyer could run at sea to resupply would add tremendous flexibility in war-time with contested sea lanes.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:36 PM (ZPrif)

248 And this is the main reason I don't indulge in twitter. It's unreadable.

Posted by: Soona at April 07, 2014 05:35 PM (gd8mn

In addition to being heterosexual.

Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 01:36 PM (m2CN7)

249 Been thinking about this issue. I think we made a mistake in the Phil Robertson affair. We stopped when AandE reversed and put him back. We were civilized and polite, that is seen as weakness by the enemy. We should have insisted the head of the network be thrown under the bus. Had we done that Moz Corp and the GheyKK would have received the proper lesson and not started this.

Mitchel Baker, Chief Lizard Wrangler and generally good person and stalwart in the Open Source movement must, I'm really sad to even type.., must now lose her job. That is what we should be insisting on. Eich can't possibly be restored after Baker threw him under the bus so the only way to balance the equation AND send a message to corporate America is for her to go. Intolerance and bigotry in the workplace has to be a firing offense whether done for malice or fear of the GheyKK.

They must fear us more than they fear the politically correct thought police. It is clear that appealing to their better nature or morality won't work. Fear. It works.

And yes it will make us worse people, but we live in evil days and good guys finish last in this toxic environment.

Posted by: John Morris at April 07, 2014 01:36 PM (YhRJW)

250 That guy must've been a mega-wussy. Here's how convo should have gone: "we need you to leave. bc gheys" CEO: "fuck you, sue me" What kind of pressure could they have brought?

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 07, 2014 01:37 PM (+JbYP)

251 My apologies. I denounce myself

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 05:34 PM (aDwsi)

Don't sweat it.

(parenthetically speaking, Mickey Spillane is one of my favorite authors. Nice username.)

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 01:37 PM (ujDl9)

252 But, but..., the process produces CO2 ! * runs around like Chicken Little *

Posted by: Greenies Everywhere at April 07, 2014 01:37 PM (aDwsi)

253 or rather, "fuck you, fire me and I'll sue but there's no fucking way I am quitting"

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 07, 2014 01:37 PM (+JbYP)

254 Mozilla defended its bottom line that is what I expect a corporation to do

Posted by: Rightrt at April 07, 2014 01:37 PM (hgoUH)

255 And if it's a matter of pure intimidation, they will win because intimidating them is stigmatized, whereas they are completely "emancipated."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:38 PM (9W+0f)

256 ith Pale Moon, do I keep my ampersands?

If you like your ampersands, you can keep your ampersands.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 07, 2014 01:38 PM (I8YZX)

257 Mozilla defended its bottom line that is what I expect a corporation to do We shall see...

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 01:38 PM (VhqUZ)

258 Take time to read the comments at Firefox's comment page.

http://tinyurl.com/n5m26ke

Oh, and off you rabbit sock

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 01:39 PM (hDwVv)

259

220...I'm planning on uninstalling FF tonight, but I genuinely want to think about this and make sure I'm doing it for the right reasons. Not just because everyone else is.

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 05:30 PM (ujDl9)

-----------

It's about...the Thought Police.

And privacy.

One of the most private things we have, are our private thoughts and our private beliefs.

This guy Eich was punished for not having the 'right thoughts' and the 'right beliefs'.

On top of that...Mozilla comes out and says that they're all about freedom and diversity.

So they are hypocrites, as well as fascists.

If you want to continue to support that...then fine.

It's up to you.

Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2014 01:39 PM (FWbLS)

260 Pale Moon sounds like the name of a micro brew beer.

Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 01:39 PM (m2CN7)

261 221 True..., that is because it is doing it's job. When you find that a benevolent script is being blocked, then punch the 'Options' button and allow that page.

Here's the problem though. HTML 5 is CSS + html + JavaScript. There are significant portions of the web now and in development that just don't run right without some scripting. That's fine if all you're doing is viewing text. Lynx is great for that. But if you're planning on using the web much in the next few years, shutting off JavaScript isn't gonna get you there.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 07, 2014 05:30 PM (qKrH5)

++++

Except that all the advertisers and social media companies run their own scripts. If you go to a page like NRO, I see there are 16 different entities wanting to run one or more scripts. I allow NRO (and disqus if I want the comments), but disallow all the advertisers and social media bullshit. Page loads much faster, is less glitchy, and I don't have to look at all those flashing ads that everyone wants to run.

Works just fine.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 07, 2014 01:39 PM (IN7k+)

262 So, the situation is quite asymmetrical, and the asymmetry always favors Leftism, because Leftists have rigged things in their favor.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:39 PM (9W+0f)

263 I think these companies DO fear the backlash from caving in to PC demands. The problem is the PC voice is closer, and more audible to them where they live and party. They don't hang out with ordinary Americans, they hang out with the elite and the cocktail party set, and that's a hotbed of PC nutcases.
Its not a question of the loudest or most numerous voices, is a case of what voices reach home. If twenty people grumble at you through the internet and two scream at you at home, which will you listen to?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 07, 2014 01:39 PM (zfY+H)

264 Yeah, the Right needs to focus their attacks in the culture wars on specific people. Just like the Left does. Hurting organizations and people doesn't put fear into people. Seeing other human beings suffer does. Personalize, personalize, personalize. It's the individuals at Mozilla or OK Cupid or Comcast or A&E or wherever, not the organizations as a whole, that should be targeted for pressure campaigns. It's individuals that suffer and are vulnerable.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:39 PM (ZPrif)

265 And this is the main reason I don't indulge in twitter. It's unreadable. And redundant. I don't know how many times I see the same tweet duplicated on web sites with comments. WTF?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 07, 2014 01:40 PM (0HooB)

266 Mozilla defended its bottom line that is what I expect a corporation to do Posted by: Rightrt at April 07, 2014 05:37 PM (hgoUH) ------------ Horseshit. They threw a founder under the bus because he supported a position our own Preezy held at the time. Where's the line?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 01:40 PM (ojnk6)

267 Brand new computer Means nothing. I've ordered batches of hardware from the top companies and had bad batches. You run diagnostics on it and if it fails you RMA. My guess is you have a bad hardware controller, hence the disappearing drive issue. Computers are other worlds of complicated. Without putting your computer under the scope it's hard to say what the issue may be.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:40 PM (qKrH5)

268 And, as such, they will probably win. Especially in the long run.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:40 PM (9W+0f)

269 hmmm Howard Stern suggested Gutfeld to replace Letterman. Nice idea. But, then RedEye

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2014 01:40 PM (IXrOn)

270 I've wondered if a better response would have been if all the traditional family institutions had simultaneous press releases saying they would exclusively use Firefox. "Firefox is the official browser for the National Organization for Marriage" "Firefox is the official browser for the Focus on the Family" The only thing better than masses of people giving negative feedback is for all the fascists in Firefox knew that every day their efforts would be used by the very institutions they revile.

Posted by: gwelf at April 07, 2014 01:41 PM (nyxv/)

271
[/]Mozilla's Post-Purge Feedback Is Strongly Negative

We don't care.

Homo's are awesome.

Posted by: Mozilla at April 07, 2014 01:41 PM (mETGQ)

272 248 "Doing Good Is Part of Our Code"
Mozilla's motto on their home page. No, you can't make this crap up.

Posted by: weirdflunky at April 07, 2014 05:36 PM (ner2b)

What- like "Don't be evil"? Really? That's their motto?

Outback Steakhouse New Motto: "Home cookin' for the gluten free vegan!"

Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 01:41 PM (ujDl9)

273 Take time to read the comments at Firefox's comment page.

This one was a gem.

"Hey morons, if you are changing browsers or search engines, you need to be aware that there is not a single one that is not based largely on the work of a gay man named Alan Turing. NOT ONE. Can you find one that doesn't support equal opportunities and treatment for their gay employees and clientelle? No you cannot ...because there aren't any."

We really don't speak the same language as the fascist left.

Posted by: HR at April 07, 2014 01:41 PM (ZKzrr)

274 Heh: http://freebeacon.com/blog/harry-reid-took-money-from-koch-lobbyist/

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:42 PM (aDwsi)

275 Huh! There is a noscript like app for Chrome named 'SafeScript'.

Posted by: Smith the Agent at April 07, 2014 01:42 PM (a7v1j)

276 Computers are other worlds of complicated. Without putting your computer under the scope it's hard to say what the issue may be.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 07, 2014 05:40 PM (qKrH5)

Commodore 64.

KABOOM!

Posted by: tangonine at April 07, 2014 01:42 PM (x3YFz)

277 I am using and not using Firefox, at the same time.

Posted by: Schrödinger's Cat at April 07, 2014 01:42 PM (4KOF2)

278 David Burge @iowahawkblog A company that doesn't care about the information privacy of its own CEO sure the hell doesn't care about yours. so perfect

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2014 01:42 PM (IXrOn)

279 Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 05:39 PM (m2CN7) You're correct; It does. You're a very funny person. I mean that in a good way. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 01:42 PM (XyM/Y)

280 All the media lamenting that "another white guy" will replace Letterman. Media never laments that next NBA star will probably be "yet another black guy". Jordan to Kobe to LeBron. Media never complains, oh my god, how boring is this. Lemme guess, will the next breakout NBA star be ... another boring black guy? Yet they feel no shame about complaining about the skin tone of Letterman's replacement. Racism. Straight up.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:43 PM (ZPrif)

281 Wait, so if it wasn't for a "gay man," we wouldn't have internets browsers? Wow.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 01:43 PM (jldxi)

282 Really, it's a matter of psychohistory, and the Leftist Foundation is evil. Marx is their Seldon, after all.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:43 PM (9W+0f)

283 HR, the idiot spewing about Turing..

Ask them about Grace Hopper.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 07, 2014 01:43 PM (L50WF)

284 "Hey morons, if you are changing browsers or search engines, you need to be aware that there is not a single one that is not based largely on the work of a gay man named Alan Turing. NOT ONE. Can you find one that doesn't support equal opportunities and treatment for their gay employees and clientelle? No you cannot ...because there aren't any." What a fag.

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 01:44 PM (GXZgZ)

285 We ought to have a "Gay Man History Month" in which we raise awareness and celebrate all the achievements by "Gay Men."

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 01:44 PM (jldxi)

286 And the "masses" will eventually yield. Because that's what the "masses" always do.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:45 PM (9W+0f)

287 Yet they feel no shame about complaining about the skin tone of Letterman's replacement.

Racism. Straight up.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 05:43 PM (ZPrif)

I suggest: Al Sharpton. What could go wrong?

Posted by: tangonine at April 07, 2014 01:45 PM (x3YFz)

288 Heh: http://freebeacon.com/blog/harry-reid-took-money-from-koch-lobbyist/ Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 05:42 PM (aDwsi) ha! ammo

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2014 01:45 PM (IXrOn)

289 New racist Left term -- whitesplaining. Whitesplaining is when a white person has an opinion about something that the Left has decided white people aren't allowed to have an opinion about. Everything Republicans say can be dismissed as "whitesplaining" and therefore illegitimate.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:45 PM (ZPrif)

290 I wish this place had an ignore feature sometimes...

Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (VhqUZ)

291 By boycotting Mozilla for their (politically motivated) actions, are we doing the same thing they did to Eich? Whom calls the tune must be prepared to pay the piper.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (naUcP)

292 Notice something: A lot of the "I have uninstalled Firefox" comments show the comment was made using a Firefox brower. I think a lot of people are saying they uninstalled but haven't/

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (0LHZx)

293 I switched to Chrome because it's already on my PC. I haven't actually uninstalled FF yet, want to make sure Chrome works okay for a while first. I also set my default search engine to Bing, because FF/Mozilla gets most of its revenue from Google. So the less I use Google, I figure, the more it hurts FF/Mozilla. I hate Nazis. My Jewish father fled Nazi-occupied France and went back a couple of years later in a U.S. Army uniform to fight the Nazis. And when he died ten years ago, we had his ashes placed at Arlington National Cemetery. If you could bring him back for five minutes and tell him were he's been the last ten years, he'd be surprised, but not displeased. And I won't dishonor my father by doing business with the moral descendants of the monsters he fought to save the world from.

Posted by: Bernie GIlbert at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (YO6qw)

294 289 MUMR, do you really like to hear yourself talk that much? WTF?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (ojnk6)

295 Wow. Alan Turing designed Mozilla, who knew? If their point is that mathematicians are capable of misbehavior too, then their point is well made.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (aDwsi)

296 Alan Turing made great contributions to computing. He also helped crack Nazi cryptography. And he was gay. In fact the Brits chemically castrated him for it. But you don't see anyone on the right calling for anything related to computing be purged because a gay man helped to create it in some way. That's the difference the libtard fascists don't understand.

Posted by: gwelf at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (nyxv/)

297 The shit just got real?

Nah, people will forget about this in a few hours.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 04:52 PM (jldxi)

More heads will roll. The vetting will continue. Right now, we're seeing takedown attacks on prominent industry leaders like Eichs and entertainment figures like Duck Dynasty's Phil. The Left will work its way down from there--and make no mistake, these aren't just Gay Mafia hits. It's the Left at work in toto. They/It are the Barzini in this deal.

In business, it's one of the primary functions of marketing experts to identify what/who are known as Key Opinion Leaders (KOLs). KOLs are the prominent, respected professionals in a given industry whom you attempt to influence, to bring over to your side (or your company's side, rather). What's going on now appears to be a kind of perverse inverse of that KOL identification process: attack these KOLs and generate fear among those who look to them for example and inspiration.

So yeah: this wasn't just a random takedown by the cheap date equivalent of Match dot com. It's way bigger than that, and way smarter.

Posted by: troyriser at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (O66NZ)

298 288
We ought to have a "Gay Man History Month" in which we raise awareness and celebrate all the achievements by "Gay Men."

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 05:44 PM (jldxi)

If this happens, you're on the hook for it.

Just sayin'

Posted by: tangonine at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (x3YFz)

299 " "Hey morons, if you are changing browsers or search engines, you need to be aware that there is not a single one that is not based largely on the work of a gay man named Alan Turing. NOT ONE" Interesting. Especially since I'm 98% sure you'd fail the Turing Test.

Posted by: Lauren at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (hFL/3)

300 >>>Wait, so if it wasn't for a "gay man," we wouldn't have internets browsers?
Wow.
Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 05:43 PM (jldxi)<<<

Or the internet!

Posted by: Algore at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (08jH8)

301 They're getting annihilated. 40,000 negative comments today (if I'm reading right)

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (TAP/5)

302 So say I install Sailor Moon and I'm banging away happily day after day, night after night FF free. Can I simply substitute it into TOR or is there another onion browser besides Mozilla?

Posted by: Daybrother is a hep cat at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (iV8fs)

303 What the fuck are we going to do now? First the fags were mad at us and now everyone else is! We can't win! How about we bring Eich back and then turn out the lights and act like no one is here? It could work...

Posted by: Mozilla at April 07, 2014 01:46 PM (oFCZn)

304 That's what Progress has always been. The "masses" yielding against their own will and their own desires and their own dreams and aspirations. Over, and over, and over. Until there is very little left to yield.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:47 PM (9W+0f)

305 Bernie - Consider Pale Moon. It is *very* similar to FF, *very*.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:48 PM (aDwsi)

306 "A lot of the "I have uninstalled Firefox" comments show the comment was made using a Firefox brower. I think a lot of people are saying they uninstalled but haven't/" Or they left the message as a parting shot before clicking "uninstall." Perhaps they figured that making it from firefox shows that they once *had* firefox.

Posted by: Lauren at April 07, 2014 01:48 PM (hFL/3)

307 Oh, gee- Being annoyed at Modzilla was all about being upset with gay men. I think I'll just stop reading any poetry by Walt Whitman or start smashing statues by Michelangelo, or just turn off any dance programs or ice dancing because it's all about not liking gay men. You'r correct, HR;. They're clueless.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 01:48 PM (XyM/Y)

308 "Hey morons, if you are changing browsers or search engines, you need to be aware that there is not a single one that is not based largely on the work of a gay man named Alan Turing. NOT ONE" Good point. Let's not fire Alan Turing.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 07, 2014 01:48 PM (TAP/5)

309 Turing was a genius. And a war hero. And gay. He also was eccentric to the point of mild insanity. He also like his men young. Verging on illegally young. He got caught with a "freshman" I believe, but English universities at that time routinely accepted freshman as young as 16. Even younger if they were super geniuses like Turing. The Left glosses over the ages of the teenagers Turing liked.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:48 PM (ZPrif)

310 "Chrome is great, but by the same token Google is probably more left than Mozilla - whaddya gonna do?" This whole debacle is about sending a message, so let's send a message.

Posted by: Decaf at April 07, 2014 01:48 PM (OCuX+)

311 The "masses" have a fundamentally-bovine collective temperament, and can therefore always be "cowed."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:49 PM (9W+0f)

312 Lauren, pretty sure Eliza would be more self-aware than that poster

http://www.manifestation.com/neurotoys/eliza.php3

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 07, 2014 01:49 PM (L50WF)

313 Ask them about Grace Hopper.

It's the Firefox feedback, not a discussion, but shit. Atanasoff, or von Neumann, Knuth, there's dozens of known geniuses and thousands of anonmyous people who have all contributed key concepts to the creation of internet interfaces that let dumbshits like that spew crap.

Posted by: HR at April 07, 2014 01:49 PM (ZKzrr)

314 Any good suggestions for a replacement to thunderbird?

Posted by: GMan at April 07, 2014 01:49 PM (72RL7)

315 Â“I would carry a gun without a badge but I will never carry a badge without a gun every again.Â”Â—a police officer at the hearing right now. He says it isnÂ’t the uniform or the badge that deter crime, itÂ’s his gun. He once tried flashing a badge without having a gun, and it was Â“the worst thing I ever did.Â”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 07, 2014 01:49 PM (WX3R9)

316

I haven't used Google in years.

Been using DuckDuckGo.

Their motto is..."The search engine that doesn't track you."

Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2014 01:49 PM (FWbLS)

317 @311 Ha ha ha. Perfect

Posted by: gwelf at April 07, 2014 01:50 PM (nyxv/)

318 Or they left the message as a parting shot before clicking "uninstall." Perhaps they figured that making it from firefox shows that they once *had* firefox. Posted by: Lauren at April 07, 2014 05:48 PM (hFL/3) ________ Maybe. But then wouldn't the comments be "I am about to uninstall" vs " I HAVE uninstalled"? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seems like there's a lot of me tooism going on here by people who want to uninstall but don't want the hassle of it

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at April 07, 2014 01:50 PM (0LHZx)

319 Who here believes that gay man Alan Turing's role in internet browsers is embellished folklore...because he's a gay man?

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 07, 2014 01:50 PM (jldxi)

320

Ernst Rohm was a gay man who was the head of the Brown Shirts.

Fabulous!!

Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 01:51 PM (m2CN7)

321 But you don't see anyone on the right calling for anything related to computing be purged because a gay man helped to create it in some way. That's the difference the libtard fascists don't understand. The comparison only makes sense if you assume the backlash against Mozilla is for being "pro gay rights". So they say we should shun the computer because Turing's work was instrumental in Computer Science, and Turing was certainly gay. Where that observation fails is in reality. The backlash against Mozilla is for ousting their CEO for political speech, especially political speech they agree with. It's not because we "hate the homosexuals".

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:51 PM (qKrH5)

322 Alan Turing -- gay, super genius war hero who liked to sodomize teenage boys.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:51 PM (ZPrif)

323 "But a seawater to fuels process that an aircraft carrier or destroyer could run at sea to resupply would add tremendous flexibility in war-time with contested sea lanes."

Unfortunately, seawater to fuel is going to be extremely energetically expensive, so nothing short of the carriers with nuclear plants will be doing much of it. And probably not making it while underway at speed. There's not THAT much reactor power to spare while shoving a CVN through the water.

We used to have nuclear power in cruisers and destroyers. Clinton put a ton of quiet back-channel pressure on the Navy to retire all of those hulls. Often early, with plenty of potential service life remaining.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2014 01:51 PM (noWW6)

324 I've been using Epic since Sunday morning, after using Safari for about 10 years. I really like it, and the installation and transition were virtually seamless. Epic is based on open-source Chromium, and has its own search engine that is not tied to Google.

Posted by: rickl at April 07, 2014 01:51 PM (zoehZ)

325 Any good suggestions for a replacement to thunderbird? Mad Dog 20/20. Or Valu-Rite if you'd like to upgrade.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 07, 2014 01:51 PM (0HooB)

326 322 Who here believes that gay man Alan Turing's role in internet browsers is embellished folklore...because he's a gay man? Alan Turing had nothing to do with browsers, any more than Boole did. His contributions to Computer Science were in mathematics and algorithms, and models like the Turing Machine.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 07, 2014 01:52 PM (TAP/5)

327 Geez thanks a lot Daybrother.

That is all the world needs. A 'zilla open source based web browser named Sailor Moon, playing snippets of the songs, and can skin the browser to reflect your favorite Sailor Scout even the lesbian couple.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 07, 2014 01:52 PM (L50WF)

328 Night Train hits the spot!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at April 07, 2014 01:52 PM (Cs2tJ)

329
Two buck Chuck?

But seriously...any good ones out there, or should I write my own email client?

Posted by: GMan at April 07, 2014 01:53 PM (72RL7)

330 They're getting annihilated. 40,000 negative comments today (if I'm reading right) Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk ----------------- I sent this note to their Press department: Regarding Brendan Eich: From three computers today, Mozilla has been excised as one one would a cancerous tumor. You are committed to nothing beyond the social agenda of a relatively small number of shrill, easily aggrieved individuals. I would say that your hypocrisy regarding 'tolerance' is appalling, but I suspect that self-awareness and shame are not your strong suits. Ernst RÃ¶hm would be quite pleased with your activity. One supposes that you are disappointed that you could not have Mr. Eich badged or tattooed. Yes, yes..., I know, Godwin's Law. But if the shoe fits, you get to wear it. On the upside, I have been pleased to survey other available browsers, and am very happy with what I have found. Auf Wiedersehen Mozilla

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:53 PM (aDwsi)

331 So surfing the web exposes hetero Neanderthals to ghey cooties? Then you need Smith's Pest Control Cootie insecticide and keyboard delouser. Sold in convenient sized five gal pails with spill proof lids for only $129.95 plus shipping and handling. address in the nic

Posted by: Smith Pest Control at April 07, 2014 01:53 PM (a7v1j)

332 "I feel your post-purge fear of backlash."

Posted by: Stephen Colbert wet noodle backlashes at April 07, 2014 01:53 PM (/vO0r)

333 Fenelon and Peter Rabbit , thank you for the link.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:53 PM (nqBYe)

334 Letterman's replacement better be a straight up drag queen featuring minority LGBT community guests or CBS is going to burn.

Posted by: Daybrother longs for SMOD at April 07, 2014 01:53 PM (c//Hw)

335 Dumped FireIsland Fox for Opera. Love it. Remember it's ALWAYS: - Homosexual not Gay - GayKK not Gay Mafia - Violent Radical Progressives not Socialist and so on... weaponize your vocabulary...

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at April 07, 2014 01:54 PM (vHRtU)

336 Turing had nothing to with the web or web browsers. Turing made fundamental discoveries about the nature of computation. Basically invented computers before it was even physically possible. So, in a sense, literally everything with any sort of computation is a result of Turing's work. But it's stupid to credit Turing with any piece of modern software.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:54 PM (ZPrif)

337 @324 Good point

Posted by: gwelf at April 07, 2014 01:54 PM (nyxv/)

338 It's merely a matter of figuring out how to manipulate the worst aspects of the lowest common-denominator collective id. Whether fear, or libidinousness, or aggression, or arrogance, or pure viciousness/Sadism, or the "masses'" insatiable yearning for prestige, status, and sheer synchronized, collective stupidity.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:54 PM (9W+0f)

339 Vice.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:54 PM (9W+0f)

340 "257 Mozilla defended its bottom line that is what I expect a corporation to do" And how did that turn out for them?

Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2014 01:54 PM (cAr2x)

341 That means instead of relying on tankers, ships will be able to produce fuel at sea.

You'll notice they never say where the original energy comes from. Having the carriers nukes electrolyse sp? hydrogen and then making jet fuel when they're not turning full rpm is cute and may be useful in some limited cases.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:54 PM (DL2i+)

342 338 I prefer Gaystapo myself.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 01:54 PM (ojnk6)

343 Leftism is vice.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:55 PM (9W+0f)

344 Thanks for the Pale Moon tip - had never heard of it, but installing it now. Flaming Fox is dead to me.

Posted by: LGW at April 07, 2014 01:55 PM (+BmfA)

345 Maybe. But then wouldn't the comments be "I am about to uninstall" vs " I HAVE uninstalled"? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seems like there's a lot of me tooism going on here by people who want to uninstall but don't want the hassle of it. Or people are switching to a browser that uses the same User Agent ID as Firefox. Lots of browsers do that because websites try to identify their users browser for compatibility purposes. If the browser is less used, but essentially compatible with Firefox, they may choose to use their UAID.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 07, 2014 01:55 PM (qKrH5)

346 No i actually did expect Mozzila to state OUTRIGHT. as they were the inteent hta handles gazillions of ideas also Political ideas a day. they would Defend Eich using Freedom of Speech. I feel it is MORE important for them to do so than a shoe store down the street.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:55 PM (nqBYe)

347 I recommend Opera 12.16. The "new" Opera is chromium based and has limited features. Opera 12.16 is configurable and work fine at the HQ: For Windows: http://tinyurl.com/k2j84dq For Mac: http://tinyurl.com/qylv553 Both Mac and Windows have 64-bit versions in addition to 32-bit versions. Also available for Linux, BSD, and Solaris

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 07, 2014 01:55 PM (CTCNK)

348 Installed Opera. Could not import bookmarks. Uninstalled Opera.

Posted by: JR at April 07, 2014 01:55 PM (bKxJO)

349 But until the US Navy has matter converters, will still need supply ships for food and ammo.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 07, 2014 01:56 PM (L50WF)

350 omgoodness i see what i'm doing now, if i go back to try to correct a word it deletes sections of my comment. Sorry!

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 01:56 PM (nqBYe)

351 Â“'I would carry a gun without a badge but I will never carry a badge without a gun every again.'Â—a police officer at the hearing right now. He says it isnÂ’t the uniform or the badge that deter crime, itÂ’s his gun. He once tried flashing a badge without having a gun, and it was 'the worst thing I ever did.'Â”

I've seen this personally (I'm not an LEO myself).

Bad drunk was kicking off in public. Had just caused a traffic accident and was then proposing to use a tire iron to beat on the guy he had run into.

Off-duty cop hears the fuss and comes to see what's going on. He badges the drunk, who promptly takes a swing at him with the tire iron. Not intimidated one bit.

Cop's sidearm comes out and things get loud and tactical for a minute or so, ending with drunk on ground with .38 muzzle to the back of his head, waiting for on-duty officers to arrive and complete the arrest.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2014 01:56 PM (noWW6)

352 How can I trust Mozilla on free speech and privacy issues in their browsers after this act? Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 07, 2014 05:00 PM (WX3R9) ---------------------------------- Stephen: Actually, you CAN'T. This morning, I advised Mozilla I had uninstalled Firefox because I no longer trusted Mozilla's promise(s) to respect the privacy of my personal data

Posted by: alwyr at April 07, 2014 01:56 PM (V0j3u)

353 "hate the homosexuals".

Here's the thing with that. If "they" are going to constantly insist, no matter the evidence to the contrary, that I'm some kind of monster, why should I not just "be" that monster? If nothing I can say or do will convince them that I'm not someone that hates the gay folk, why should I bother even *trying* to be civil anymore.

Down this path leads bloodshed, and they don't realize it.

Posted by: GMan at April 07, 2014 01:56 PM (72RL7)

354 Vice for the sake of ever-increasing quantities of vice.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:56 PM (9W+0f)

355 261 Take time to read the comments at Firefox's comment page.
http://tinyurl.com/n5m26ke
Oh, and off you rabbit sock
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2014 05:39 PM (hDwVv)

I waded through about 10 screens of mostly negative comments.
Gave up when I got to posts from "15 minutes ago".

Wonder if this will go viral?

For the record, I agreed with Prop 8, and also agree with the Pale Moon CEO's viewpoint.

Posted by: jwb7605 [/i][/u][/s][/b] at April 07, 2014 01:56 PM (ZALPg)

356 "Absolutely. I have as little use for companies that cave in to pi$$ant bullies as I do for the bullies themselves. Susan G. Komen comes to mind." Little people don't matter and never did. If their opinion was important they wouldn't be little people.

Posted by: Decaf at April 07, 2014 01:56 PM (OCuX+)

357 Vice without end.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:56 PM (9W+0f)

358 and so on... weaponize your vocabulary... Posted by: OG Homosexual predator, not Pedophile

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 01:57 PM (aDwsi)

359 "Mozilla defended its bottom line that is what I expect a corporation to do" What bottom line is that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 01:57 PM (XyM/Y)

360 But, with clearly defined political ends.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 01:57 PM (9W+0f)

361 Yeah, the energy costs would be huge. The article seems to claim that is included in the estimated $3-6/gallon cost. Useless estimate if they didn't do a full cost accounting. So this could be BS hype, but they appear to be claiming a new process that uses less electricity and is therefore much more cost effective. But the article is light on details and long on hype.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:57 PM (ZPrif)

362 I like Opera okay but I hate its "favorites" page system. Its awful, and clearly designed for tablets and other portables rather than a PC.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 07, 2014 01:58 PM (zfY+H)

363 I feel it is MORE important for them to do so than a shoe store down the street. Plus, he didn't do anything illegal. If that'd been me, I'da told them to shove it. Fire me and I'll sue you into Oblivion. And make an incredibly huge stink about it, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 07, 2014 01:58 PM (0HooB)

364 319. I haven't used Google in years. -- wheatie Startpage, "the world's most PRIVATE search engine" https://www.startpage.com/

Posted by: Katherine Albrecht, civil libertarian at April 07, 2014 01:58 PM (/vO0r)

365 I saw Cotton Ball Phobia open for Willie Nelson at Austin City Limits back in '88

Posted by: JarvisW at April 07, 2014 01:58 PM (E7Iyp)

366 ChiTown been lying on the crime stats: Tribune: -- Chicago police did not count about a quarter of the aggravated assault and aggravated battery victims in its crime statistics in 2012, a year in which the city was under a national microscope because of rising violence, an audit by the cityÂ’s top watchdog found. The department failed to follow state guidelines by counting each aggravated assault or battery as one incident, not each victim as it should have , leading to the under-reporting because of all the incidents that involved more than one victim. That means that Chicago statistics on aggravated assaults and aggravated batteries, which include shootings in which someone was wounded but not killed, were under-reported to the Illinois State Police and FBI.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 07, 2014 01:58 PM (ZPrif)

367 "Mozilla defended its bottom line that is what I expect a corporation to do"
This assumes they aren't losing business over a thoughtcrime purge. Not very far sighted of them, eh?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 07, 2014 01:58 PM (zfY+H)

368 "His contributions to Computer Science were in mathematics and algorithms, and models like the Turing Machine."

Never downplay the importance of efficient algorithms.

The history of computing is littered with people who figured, well, the algorithm isn't all that, but we'll just shove more brute force processing power at the problem. That will surely solve things!

Uh, no. Lots of necessary problems are not amenable to this at all.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2014 01:59 PM (noWW6)

369 Opera gives you ampers &&&& I miss the tinyurl add-on. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 07, 2014 05:04 PM (V70Uh) Opera has the extention "Shorten URL" which allows you to shorted with bit.ly, TinyURL, goo.gl (Google), is.gd, tweak.tk, adf.ly, j.mp and 3le.ru It will also generate a QR code/2-D barcode for a website. http://tinyurl.com/d6or7kw

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 07, 2014 01:59 PM (CTCNK)

370 Duck Duck Go is also a great search engine with no tracing

Posted by: JarvisW at April 07, 2014 01:59 PM (E7Iyp)

371 Question:
What's the proper bait to use when hunting faggots?

Posted by: Fed Up at April 07, 2014 05:58 PM (Cs2tJ)

Looks like you are the one trying to do the hunting. Sorry you won't find anyone to play your game here.

Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 01:59 PM (m2CN7)

372 Question: What's the proper bait to use when hunting faggots?

Posted by: Fed Up at April 07, 2014 01:59 PM (Cs2tJ)

373 Ugg - Arbeit macht frei. Rats, a missed opportunity

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 07, 2014 02:00 PM (aDwsi)

374 Opera seems pretty good. I liked FF for all the add-ons they offered and I was pleased to see that Opera has loads of them too, they're just called "extensions". Opera seems very similar to FF. I am happy.

Posted by: El_Froggo at April 07, 2014 02:00 PM (MNIO4)

375 @ 368: Startpage gets its results from Google. FireFox/Mozilla gets most of its revenue from Google. You have to kick Google in the wallet some, too.

Posted by: Bernie GIlbert at April 07, 2014 02:00 PM (YO6qw)

376 bottom line when they deal with information of millions of people? sorry not good enough.

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 02:00 PM (nqBYe)

377 By boycotting Mozilla for their (politically motivated) actions, are we doing the same thing they did to Eich? no see Ben explain it's great http://tinyurl.com/qga86py

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2014 02:00 PM (IXrOn)

378

Sorry, I forgot not to repost the comment part when responding to bait trolls.

Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 02:00 PM (m2CN7)

379 The abolition of Christianity. The abolition of the family. The abolition of the Free Market. The abolition of the individual. The abolition of humanity.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 02:01 PM (9W+0f)

380 376 Go back to Stormfront with that shit, Dickhead.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 02:01 PM (ojnk6)

381 Installed Opera. Could not import bookmarks. Uninstalled Opera. Posted by: JR at April 07, 2014 05:55 PM (bKxJO) That's a problem with the "new" Opera because they did some B.S. survey that said only 1% of people use bookmarks. Use Opera 12.16 instead: For Windows: http://tinyurl.com/k2j84dq For Mac: http://tinyurl.com/qylv553

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 07, 2014 02:01 PM (CTCNK)

382 IF Eich was not allowed to freely associate or freely donate to a legal organization according to Mozzilla response?

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 02:02 PM (nqBYe)

383 nood

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 07, 2014 02:02 PM (oilSo)

384 Yay, a Moby.

Posted by: HR at April 07, 2014 02:02 PM (ZKzrr)

385 ... Dickhead. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 06:01 PM (ojnk6) Good idea. That might just work.

Posted by: Fed Up at April 07, 2014 02:02 PM (Cs2tJ)

386 383 Comment withdrawn, post zapped. I just didn't want to quote crap like that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 02:03 PM (ojnk6)

387

368 319. I haven't used Google in years. -- wheatie

Startpage, "the world's most PRIVATE search engine"

https://www.startpage.com/

Posted by: Katherine Albrecht, civil libertarian at April 07, 2014 05:58 PM (/vO0r)

--------------

I went to 'Startpage'...and right there, up front, it says:

"Enhanced by Google"

So...thanks, but I think I'll stick with DuckDuckGo.

Posted by: wheatie at April 07, 2014 02:03 PM (FWbLS)

388 I'm trying the Lesser Evil: Chrome, well, the Iron variant of Chrome anyway, which should be less eviler.

Posted by: toby928© embraces tribalism at April 07, 2014 02:03 PM (QupBk)

389 SRWare Iron is Chrome without the google/NSA crap. In case it got buried above..

Posted by: JarvisW at April 07, 2014 02:04 PM (E7Iyp)

390 384
Thanks, I'll check that out. Follow-up Q about 12.16: any vulnerability concerns with the older rev?

Posted by: JR at April 07, 2014 02:04 PM (bKxJO)

391 "Chicago police did not count about a quarter of the aggravated assault and aggravated battery victims in its crime statistics in 2012, a year in which the city was under a national microscope because of rising violence, an audit by the cityÂ’s top watchdog found."

I suspect that most large cities under Democratic control (damn near all of 'em these days) are doing very similar things.

I've been watching the San Francisco police pencil-whip their crime reporting for decades now. To downplay both property crime and violent crime.

On the property crime front, I've seen SFPD refuse to take a report from a citizen unless the amount stolen exceeded the grand-theft threshold.

And on violent crime, they go so far as to count deaths which were almost certainly murders as "suicides" if there is any way they can spin it as being such. This is to distract from SFPD's horrible homicide clearance rate, which last I looked was under fifty percent.

Yes, that's true. If you off someone in the City By The Bay, you have better than even odds of getting away totally scot-free with the killing.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2014 02:04 PM (noWW6)

392 The most likely gay person more responsible for browsers than Turning would be Grace Hopper.

Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 02:04 PM (m2CN7)

393 The abolition of God. And therefore, rational, logical, and reasonable notions of morality and societal order. Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at April 07, 2014 02:05 PM (9W+0f)

394 391 I commented on a post number that got zapped and then withdrew it. Problem for you?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 02:05 PM (ojnk6)

395 so is michelle baker of mozilla. Michell or michelle sound?

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 02:06 PM (nqBYe)

396 michell baker no e

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 02:06 PM (nqBYe)

397 someone above mentioned that a lot of the "I uninstalled" came from a firefox browser. I just verified that Pale Moon is recognized as the firefox agent string...so, yeah, anyone installing pale moon and posting an "I quit" message from it will look like they're posting from firefox.

Now, I know this thread is dead, but still, that's useful

Posted by: GMan at April 07, 2014 02:06 PM (72RL7)

398 I commented on a post number that got zapped and then withdrew it. I've taken to copy/pasting the posted by-line for stuff likely to get zapped. That way, I'm not quote the trash and it doesn't get innocents smeared.

Posted by: toby928© embraces tribalism at April 07, 2014 02:07 PM (QupBk)

399 Ever since that one cartoon about Michelangelo that went around college admission convocations in the late Sixties, precious snowflakes have been taught, convincingly, that every great thing in human history has been the exclusive province of the special ones, and they have through love of mankind shared those advances with us breeders. They believe this through and through.

Thus, they are convinced that your change of browser is irrelevant. Soon you will find that your new product is also tied in with the Source of All Progress.

The harder Mozilla gets backlashed, the more urgently they will try to get a Statement of Principles out of every developer to prove this case. Someone is surely working on that project right now. And go ahead, call him Shirley.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2014 02:07 PM (xq1UY)

400 or mitchell

Posted by: willow at April 07, 2014 02:07 PM (nqBYe)

401 "323 Ernst Rohm was a gay man who was the head of the Brown Shirts. Fabulous!!" Gays were quick to appropriate any historical achievement or historically significant person as gay. I wonder how they will like being associated with historical oppressors?

Posted by: Decaf at April 07, 2014 02:08 PM (OCuX+)

402 36 Boycott each and every one of these fuckers. I know longer drink Sam Adams or Guinness beer.

And I love me some Winter Lager Sam Adams.

fuck them straight to hell. buh bye mozilla, you fascist fucks.

What did Sam Adams do?

Posted by: pashmr at April 07, 2014 02:08 PM (3aNC4)

403

Someone needs to delete my post at 375.

Posted by: polynikes at April 07, 2014 02:09 PM (m2CN7)

404 401 Good suggestion. Thanks.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 02:09 PM (ojnk6)

405 Mozilla: fold to, what... 4% of your user base and end up pissing off 25-godknowshwat% and driving them to other browsers.

Nice work.

Posted by: tangonine at April 07, 2014 02:11 PM (x3YFz)

406 408 Done for the future. See above.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 07, 2014 02:11 PM (ojnk6)

407 I've started using Pale Moon, which is clearly based on Mozilla. But the plugins all work, and they have a tool to copy all your Firefox stuff over.

Bye bye Firefox.

Posted by: Null at April 07, 2014 02:11 PM (xjpRj)

408 Willow, there's a new post.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 07, 2014 02:12 PM (0HooB)

409 146 - How Dare You!!!

Posted by: Angry and Out of Context at April 07, 2014 02:13 PM (ZPrif)

410 Here's the thing: FF would probably be 20% higher in users had they had some balls.

Low estimate.

I'll offer Chick-Fil-A as prime example.

Posted by: tangonine at April 07, 2014 02:13 PM (x3YFz)

411 405 "what did Sam Adams do?" Don't know what they did lately, but years ago they sponsored a radio contest, in which a couple had "relations" in St. Patrick's Cathedral.

Posted by: Sal at April 07, 2014 02:13 PM (2v393)

412 234 -- Oh yeah, buddy? Say it to my face!!!!

Posted by: Angry and Out of Context at April 07, 2014 02:13 PM (ZPrif)

413 524 -- Obvious future troll is obvious.

Posted by: Angry and Out of Context at April 07, 2014 02:14 PM (ZPrif)

414 I just did a search for "chorizo burrito" recipes, and Firefox gave me a list of gay porn sites. True story.

Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2014 02:15 PM (oJUxt)

415 Sam Adams was sponsoring some city St Patrick Day Parade- Boston? in which gay people could not have a banner and march together as gay people. I don't think any banners of groups were allowed. They got pushback from gays and withdrew their support of the parade.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 02:16 PM (XyM/Y)

416 I just bought Download Helper for use with Firefox. Will this work on PaleMoon?

Thanks!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at April 07, 2014 02:17 PM (AC0lD)

417 Firefox is a victim here Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 07, 2014 05:13 PM (LWu6U) ----------------------------------- WTF FF (as part of Mozilla) is the VICTIM.... REALLY???? Where are you getting YOUR information from these days?

Posted by: alwyr at April 07, 2014 02:17 PM (V0j3u)

418 Sad comment of the day: It's time to change the name of your company from 'Mozilla' to 'Nazilla'

Posted by: Comrade J at April 07, 2014 02:18 PM (6kkPP)

419 Link on Sam Adams parade story: http://tinyurl.com/ky48tzc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 02:20 PM (XyM/Y)

420 @2 There are browser usage statistics...I don't think that they can tell that you've uninstalled but they can tell that you've stopped using. Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 07, 2014 04:52 PM (eBNjM) It almost certainly phones home unless you tell it not to.

Posted by: HoboJerky, Hash Hunter at April 07, 2014 02:20 PM (E8IHS)

421

The Belmont Club column reminds me of some dialogue from the movie A Man for All Seasons when Thomas More's son-in-law (I forget the name and I'm not going to search for it) spoke about the value of eliminating laws protecting heretics (going from a very shaky memory here). More responds by asking what then if the devil turns on you after all the trees protecting him are removed.

Memory is bad here but that was the gist.

Posted by: northernlurker at April 07, 2014 02:21 PM (Xmw9g)

422 The Pale Moon Guru reflects the same misinformation that even FOX news is spreading, that prop 8 was a "ban" or actively removing legal gay weddings (as a Fox commenter said earlier). It was not a ban, nor did it make gay weddings illegal. Gavin Newsome decided he'd allow gay weddings to take place - he was the one doing something illegal. Amazing how the left is rewriting history literally as it's written.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 07, 2014 02:22 PM (pgQxn)

423 Not sure on Pale Moon... FF gets their $$ from having Google be the default search bar tool (or so I've heard, not verified). If Pale Moon is based on the FF code (it is) and has the same search tool (I assume it does) then it's entirely possible that is still funneling $$ to FF. I'm trying Chrome today, not bad, not great. I liked "NoScript" for FF; wondering if Opera has a better/worse/different Adblock + ScriptBlock setup for addons.

Posted by: gekkobear at April 07, 2014 02:24 PM (2zHxV)

424 This a clip of the section from the great movie from "A Man For All Seasons" on the devil and the law: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDBiLT3LASk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 02:29 PM (XyM/Y)

425 Mozilla defended its bottom line that is what I expect a corporation to do Posted by: Rightrt at April 07, 2014 05:37 PM (hgoUH) What bottom line? The 5% of the population who are gay who might use their products? Some of whom are also appalled that a company would accept threats from supporting companies i.e. Rarebit and OkCupid to remove their testing products and who helped facilitate a petition drive, including Mozilla employees demanding Mozilla's newly appt. CEO be removed. A company that would be complicit in demanding that the CEO resign, who was the founder of the company, had been with Mozilla for 16 years and had not one shred of evidence of ever having discriminated against a gay employee he supervised. A CEO who donated privately to a political group working to maintain the traditional definition of marriage in CA. He didn't bring this to work. He didn't ask other employees to join him in the action. A company who allowed their CEO's personal political donation activity, which is only published because of govt. regulations requiring such donations to be public because of the amount, to be hunted down and then distributed as if he had been found giving money to gun runners(oh wait , that was a Democrat who did that). A company, because there are some board members who support gay marriage, decided that the CEO's private legal donations didn't sit well with them, so he must not be permitted to rise to CEO, although it was fine that he was there for 16 years in other capacities. And once he was named CEO, to immediately begin to lynch him publically, so as to provide a "cause" to fire him or ask him to resign. This is so dangerous on many levels. Eich could sue, but that would take years to wind through the courts. Meanwhile, unless people with principals stand up the only way they can to fight this, the gay mafia and their progressive overlords who find them useful idiots will continue to be emboldened and will do this to as many others as they can. There was even a Slate article encouraging such action.

Posted by: Jen at April 07, 2014 02:33 PM (IdGqX)

426 this one's gonna hurt: I cannot support a company that does not protect and celebrate the diverse and open expression of individual opinions. I have removed Firefox from all of my home computers and will be removing it from all systems within our company (~1500). You don't even see your own hypocrisy which is laughable at best.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 07, 2014 02:35 PM (Kqtqx)

427 Thanks, Jen. Well said.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 02:36 PM (XyM/Y)

428 Hey when your head is --quite literally up your ass--and then some one of your friends shoves his thing in there beside your head, it gets hard to think. And this boycott/protest/public burning at the stake was not very well thought through.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 07, 2014 02:39 PM (wdHk6)

429 417 524 -- Obvious future troll is obvious. I don't know why but this made me chuckle out loud.

Posted by: toby928© embraces tribalism at April 07, 2014 02:44 PM (QupBk)

430 By boycotting Mozilla for their (politically motivated) actions, are we doing the same thing they did to Eich? Problem: I think it sets a dangerous precedent when we start firing people and publicly trashing them because they support a political opinion different from our own. For this reason, I'm pissed at Mozilla. Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 05:16 PM (ujDl9) ------------------------------ Book: You can spend an eternity playing these "mindfuck" games with yourself. Personally, I have NO problem in dealing with Mozilla (and uninstalling their IT products). Here is the rationale involved: If these 'precious snowflakes' DEMAND I HAVE to respect their opinions yet they somehow do NOT have to reciprocate by respecting mine, then I simply say: "Go piss up a rope." You WILL note from my NIC that I'm a lawyer, and while couched in less than legal terms, my response ('Go Piss Up A Rope') is in fact a VALID legal response.

Posted by: alwyr at April 07, 2014 02:45 PM (V0j3u)

431 434 417 524 -- Obvious future troll is obvious. I don't know why but this made me chuckle out loud. Posted by: toby928Â© embraces tribalism at April 07, 2014 06:44 PM (QupBk) It has been done before. Try it sometime. Call out a future comment number that will actually be reached though.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 07, 2014 02:48 PM (r0aLJ)

432 Freshly Pale Moonified.

Thanks to everyone above who suggested it.

FU 2 Mozilla - your brownshirts are fabulousssly fascist.

Posted by: Jaws at April 07, 2014 03:04 PM (Rbtz3)

433 Uninstalled Firefox at home and at work. The appeasers of brownshirts will not be getting any of my business.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at April 07, 2014 03:05 PM (A1Dcl)

434 Posted by: Bernie GIlbert at April 07, 2014 06:00 PM (YO6qw)

DuckDuckGo -- http://is.gd/KMvJ5s

Google results without feeding teh evil...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at April 07, 2014 03:13 PM (lJaja)

435 I suspect that for some strange reason, folks like Mozilla forget that most discretionary and business capital sit in the hands of conservatives. Decisions like this one tell others in the business community that you're more concerned with being politically correct and are less concerned with providing a solid product. Once you see a vendor start making stupid decisions, you start looking for a new platform. We do vote with our dollars.

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at April 07, 2014 03:14 PM (L4CWX)

436

They threw one of the true elite to the mob; as talented as the shriekers may be at whatever it is they do, it will never approach the contributions he's made to this world.

This succesful man sees the world different than the shriekers and perhaps they should think about that. Would they ever think that they could do something wrong?

Maybe Mozilla, which (who?) has cowed to the irrational leftist shriekers will realize that they took the wrong end in this tradeoff. Maybe consequences will be felt and may their smart will take us back away from the brink of humanity.

Posted by: West Town at April 07, 2014 03:34 PM (i9PNx)

437 I did my bit today. I was one of those 'sad' comments which I put up while Chrome (from Google, also not fond of them) was installing on my computer. Done with Firefox. Screw those Stalinist goons.

Posted by: Some Guy in Texas at April 07, 2014 03:35 PM (AcmH4)

438 They do appear to have a facebook page.

Posted by: Rob in Katy at April 07, 2014 03:37 PM (gdGJ1)

439 Have been using Netscape, Firefox, and SeaMonkey since the 90's. I uninstalled all Mozilla browsers yesterday and I'm now using Safari. So, the problem I'm having with arguing with people over this is that they say we are violating their civil rights by denying them marriage. When did marriage become a civil right? How do you respond to that?

Posted by: grumpyguy at April 07, 2014 04:00 PM (Lae5s)

440 220...I'm planning on uninstalling FF tonight, but I genuinely want to think about this and make sure I'm doing it for the right reasons. Not just because everyone else is. Posted by: Book at April 07, 2014 05:30 PM (ujDl9) --------------------------------------- That's right, Book! ALL of us are going to lose sleep tonight AGONIZING over your oh, so, soooooooo, important personal decision. If you haven't figured out how to address Mozilla's recent actions from a MORAL standpoint (but instead are waiting to see what the rest of the world does so you can hop on the bandwagon)...PLEASE JUST GO AWAY

Posted by: alwyr at April 07, 2014 04:01 PM (V0j3u)

441 Since the liberals say that they did nothing wrong, I want to announce that I have exercised my collective first amendment right and removed Firefox from my computer. It is not just poo-poo comments on Mozilla's webpage.

Posted by: TimothyJ at April 07, 2014 04:05 PM (ep2io)

442 Uninstalled Firefox from phone and work PC, will do shortly on home PC. Went to Mozilla to see if they had negative comments. Told I've been banned until March 2015, from a forum I haven't visited in years. Did they notice and did this preemptively to avoid getting negative feedback?

Posted by: waelse1 at April 07, 2014 04:12 PM (8Ts0o)

443 429 (for now) FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2014 06:29 PM (XyM/Y) Thank you for that Thomas More clip.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 07, 2014 04:13 PM (u82oZ)

444 Notice something: A lot of the "I have uninstalled Firefox" comments show the comment was made using a Firefox brower. I think a lot of people are saying they uninstalled but haven't Mr. Moo Moo -------------------- Is it just me, but I've noticed this CLOWN is a usually a COMPLETE jerk? Mr. Moo Moo, depending upon the application, that application remains part of the OS until you restart your computer. Hence, there is a VERY good likelihood the application in question (e.g. FF) REMAINS the default browser (and WILL continue to send messages) until a system re-boot has occurred.

Posted by: alwyr at April 07, 2014 04:19 PM (V0j3u)

445 Those of you who don't wish to use browsers made by left wing bigots and fascists, try slimboat browser.

Posted by: Warden at April 07, 2014 04:22 PM (bmp0d)

446 Check out the weekend's numbers, and today's. Heading for 10,000 negative comments just today.

Posted by: Greg Q at April 07, 2014 04:39 PM (4Pleu)

447 So, the problem I'm having with arguing with people over this is that they say we are violating their civil rights by denying them marriage.

--

In their minds, I also assume it's a civil right to marry an 8 year old child, a cat, or a head of cabbage. If not, their logic is illogical.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 07, 2014 04:54 PM (48W4I)

448 As was noted @4 and 5, Seamonkey and Pale Moon are good alternatives to Firefox. They are based on the same underlying code, but are not part of Mozilla. The plugins for Firefox work with both.

Posted by: jbarntt at April 07, 2014 05:17 PM (UNFot)

449 Without reading 450+ comments: I installed Comodo Ice Dragon.= secure version of Firefox. Comodo Dragon = Google Chrome.
Works great and fast.

Posted by: Kafiroon at April 07, 2014 05:42 PM (HZMpv)

450 I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I dumped FF as a matter of principle, Mitchell, you F*****g BOSSY bitch. Come get me.....I'm waiting.

Posted by: TLytle at April 07, 2014 05:52 PM (388O+)

451 You pick a topic and Google/Chrome has done things that would make a progressive smile about it. I don't pick which free program I use based on the actions of the company but how it works. Go with Avant Browser. It uses Firefox rendering engine but it is not Firefox. It also can render a page with a Chrome engine and IE engine.

Posted by: Trevor@TJexcite at April 07, 2014 06:13 PM (bkAvJ)

452 438 Uninstalled Firefox at home and at work. The appeasers of brownshirts will not be getting any of my business.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at April 07, 2014 07:05 PM (A1Dcl)

Hope you did not pay for Firefox. What kind of business transaction is there when the product is free.

Posted by: Trevor@TJexcite at April 07, 2014 06:22 PM (bkAvJ)

453 I know I'm late to the party, but one thing that will actually hurt Firefox is if they get bad reviews for their app in the Google play store. I see some people have actually started doing that. I heard (not sure if it's true...) that if they get too many 1 star ratings, Google will bump them off the store...

Posted by: zvi36 at April 07, 2014 06:40 PM (IsSK2)

454 @457:"What kind of business transaction is there when the product is free."

Mozilla has a financial arrangement with Google wherein it gets compensated every time its users use the Google search installed as default in the bar. Also, all FF users who click on Google ads deliver a commission from Google to Mozilla. Mozilla gets several hundred million a year from that arrangement with Google alone. So if a lot of business owners across the country like #438 to whom you were replying were to take FF off all their company machines they could definitely put a dent in Mozilla's bottom line.

Posted by: Recidivist Lurker at April 07, 2014 07:17 PM (4tWSk)

455 @29 and @51--is there a Mac version of Pale Moon?

Posted by: AnnaS at April 07, 2014 07:31 PM (Npv5I)

456 @ 453 Replying to my own msg, but I want to add that Opera is also an excellent Firefox alternative. Opera has no relation to Mozilla, or Firefox code, and has a good selection of extensions, which is the real calling card of Firefox. Opera has Ghostery, adblock , and scriptkeeper, and many others. Worth a look. Been around for a long time. Recommended.

Posted by: jbarntt at April 07, 2014 08:55 PM (UNFot)

457 Pale Moon = faster internet and no Mozilla

The only addon issue I had after switching to Pale Moon and transferring all of my Firefox info was the loss of the Amazon search engine. Everything else is working fine.

Also, a sidenote:

Startpage = no tracking information, and better than DuckDuckGo

Now I just need someone that's not Mozilla to make a better 'Mozilla' Thunderbird.

Posted by: Just a guy at April 07, 2014 09:21 PM (CGzAz)

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