February 11, 2014

MSNBC Wants You to Know That That Hillary Document Dump Came from an "Anti-Clinton" "Rightwing" "Website"
— Ace

Update: Gabe is now live at HuffPo, answering questions about socialized law.

The Washington Free Beacon had a noteworthy scoop about "The Hillary Papers," and, as AllahPundit says, the new information itself cannot be discredited.

So what is MSNBC to do? Well, as they are unable to impeach the actual information, they will just relentlessly impeach the publisher. The below supercut was compiled by the Washington Free Beacon itself, and is amusing.

Well, it's superficially amusing. When you think about it, it's pretty alarming.

Is this what it's come down to? The media used to have at least an interest in preserving their credibility; this would serve to restrain, somewhat, their partisan and ideological leanings.

But on MSNBC -- and increasingly in all the other leftwing media as well -- they are abandoning any restraint at all.

However, some still seem willing to call out their fellow progressives for getting ridiculous about it all. Dylan Byers of Politico, for example, posted this tweet:


He's not joining in on the "right-wing" "anti-Clinton" "website" party, I'm 99% sure. He is directly quoting from Joe Klein -- Joe Klein actually says that, all those scare-quotes and all, in the article he's linking. So this seems to be Dylan Byers' offering a "Come on, dude" bit of chiding to Joe Klein.

But meanwhile, at MSNBC, the party is in high gear, led by Mistress of Ceremonies Andrea Mitchell, a real reporter, you know.

This brings up a question I've been wondering about a lot:

In the old days, we would complain about media bias. We strongly preferred an unbiased media, but as a second-best option, we often said things like, "They can be as biased as they like, as long as they admit their bias." If you inform the public of your bias, you've disclosed your conflict of interest. So that can be said to be fair disclosure.

Of course, the media is not willing to confess it has a bias. But in MSNBC's case, the bias is so brazen and ridiculous that one could say it's essentially admitted, even if they continue, when asked, to insist they are "non-partisan."

So the question presented is, "Were we right when we thought it would be better if the media just confessed their bias?"

Because, having seen what it looks like, I'm not so sure it is better. MSNBC is simply taking this as a liberation to be as crudely partisan as possible.

Posted by: Ace at 11:04 AM | Comments (409)
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1 ace, we miss you, man.

Posted by: Still no sign of sig at February 11, 2014 11:04 AM (q177U)

2 Andrea Mitchell may not be much to look at but the bitch knows her way around a colostomy bag.

Posted by: Alan Greenspan at February 11, 2014 11:05 AM (8ZskC)

3 ACE!

Posted by: EC at February 11, 2014 11:05 AM (GQ8sn)

4 #waronwomen #walkwithwendy

Posted by: BacktoGA at February 11, 2014 11:05 AM (45HDu)

5 He's alive!

Posted by: .87c at February 11, 2014 11:06 AM (qZPXs)

6 Who is this new cob-logger on Gabe's site?

Posted by: fluffy at February 11, 2014 11:06 AM (Ua6T/)

7 Wait a minute. This isn't Ace.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 11, 2014 11:06 AM (8ZskC)

8 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 11:06 AM (PYAXX)

9 Hillary is going to get her 'chance'. I can see it now. And we will be saying 'How in the heck did she get elected?'

Posted by: Erowmero at February 11, 2014 11:06 AM (OONaw)

10 Ace! *smothers with kisses*

Posted by: Mindy at February 11, 2014 11:06 AM (mQwL2)

11 I'm basically the GOPs ally.

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at February 11, 2014 11:07 AM (Aif/5)

12  ‏@JohnEkdahl

@JoeKleinTIME IÂ’ve been calling the @freebeacon guys clowns forever. Should have come to me for a quote. I would have gone on the record.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 11, 2014 11:07 AM (cxs6V)

13 Who cares what MSNBC says, its not like anyone watches that outlet. The next conservative president ought to shit can their broadcast permit.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 11, 2014 11:07 AM (4Vr+0)

14 The Onion has a great satire piece today btw (not to be too off topic)

http://onion.com/1dFD0K7

Posted by: BacktoGA at February 11, 2014 11:08 AM (45HDu)

15 Better to confess bias. At least that way, we can wipe the smiles off the smug sycophants who quote MSNBC as gospel.

Posted by: RS at February 11, 2014 11:08 AM (YAGV/)

16 When we do attack pieces on Ted Cruz it is totes objective journalism though.

Posted by: MSNBC at February 11, 2014 11:08 AM (hFL/3)

17 Hope you're feeling better, Ace.

Of course, the media is not willing to confess it has a bias. But in MSNBC's case, the bias is so brazen and ridiculous that one could say it's essentially admitted, even if they continue, when asked, to insist they are "non-partisan."

The kos kids even call MSNBC in the tank for the right-wing, believe it or not.  (Except for Maddow, of course)  That Schultz boob came out in favor of the Keystone XL pipeline, and you shoulda seen the heads exploding over at Daily Kooks!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2014 11:08 AM (b/lt+)

18 Glad to see you're still right side of the ground...hope you got some rest the last couple of days!

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 11, 2014 11:09 AM (naUcP)

19 >>> Who cares what MSNBC says, its not like anyone watches that outlet. The next conservativepresident ought to shit can their broadcast permit. Just refer to them as parody.

Posted by: fluffy at February 11, 2014 11:09 AM (Ua6T/)

20 MSNBC?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 11:10 AM (t3UFN)

21 I'd have much more respect for Charles Karauthammer's opinions if he were able to actually get out and around in the world.

Posted by: Joe Klein Quotes at February 11, 2014 11:10 AM (Aif/5)

22

The partially somewhat occasionally fair segment of the MSNBC broadcast day, Morning Joe, pointed out that these papers have been available to the public in a college library for four years.  And the woman who put them there is literally a childhood friend of Hillary's who made a career of being HRC's collaborator and loyal ally.

 

So, yeah. Right wing hit job.  Haterz.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 11, 2014 11:10 AM (A0sHn)

23

Ace! 

 

I think it still is better when bias is admitted, and then its tattered corpse is rolled on like a dog with a dead woodchuck.  MSNBCs rating have only been in decline, as their partisanship has been on the rise.

Posted by: Heralder at February 11, 2014 11:10 AM (/Mxso)

24

So the question presented is, "Were we right when we thought it would be better if the media just confessed their bias?"

Because, having seen what it looks like, I'm not so sure it is better. MSNBC is simply taking this as a liberation to be as crudely partisan as possible.

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Which is true. But you have to admit their appeal is getting more and more selective.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 11, 2014 11:10 AM (VjL9S)

25 That's a pathetic piece of tripe from Joe Klein.  Read "Primary Colors" if you want to know what he REALLY thinks about Billary.  He's spent the last 20 years trying to get back in their good graces.

Posted by: rockmom at February 11, 2014 11:10 AM (aBlZ1)

26 So - "Believe our lies, not your lying eyes!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 11:10 AM (Z/g31)

27 Could someone please put me some f'ing knowledge... what was that "say my name" part a clip from? Some movie I guess?

Posted by: mr_jack at February 11, 2014 11:10 AM (TMG3G)

28 Somebody broadcasts MSNBC? It's not just, like, over rented wire?

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 11, 2014 11:11 AM (xq1UY)

29 *danceclapACEisback

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 11:11 AM (IXrOn)

30 BTW, Significant Other insists on have CNBC on during the day and today is a WFH day.  Martha Stewart was just on and she gushed about Hillary, thereby further cementing my already adamantine resolution to never ever buy anything associated with her greedy felonious self.  

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 11, 2014 11:12 AM (kXoT0)

31 We allow the Media great latitude within our society, and even the Law, because they are supposed to be impartial... When they are not, they break that part of the Contract... Its basically a case of False Advertising... and bad enough that if this were any other Company, they would get sued...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 11, 2014 11:12 AM (84gbM)

32 Good thing the chick who wrote the papers is dead Or she would be soon

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 11, 2014 11:12 AM (fA5xz)

33 Because, having seen what it looks like, I'm not so sure it is better. MSNBC is simply taking this as a liberation to be as crudely partisan as possible. Well, yes, and then again no. Since they have not admitted their bias, other outlets can (and do) continue to claim they are not biased. So they kind of get the best of both worlds. On the other hand, MSLSD does seem to have The Incredible Shrinking Viewership. So if they go far enough left, maybe they'll finally collapse and either be forced back toward the center, or just die. Or limp along in irrelevance, like Air America did for so long.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 11:12 AM (PYAXX)

34 MSNBC: The sewer of the MBM.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2014 11:13 AM (bMSAb)

35 off topic early, but gotta mention this if no one else did: Betsy Newmark links to this from Nat Rev (remember, it's the Republican War on Women):

Massachusetts state representative Carloz Henriquez was convicted last Wednesday of assaulting a woman who refused to have sex with him and was sentenced to six months in prison. Following his conviction, the president of the New England Area Chapter (NEAC) of the NAACP, Juan Cofield, jumped to HenriquezÂ’s defense, comparing the assault on and beating of a woman to jaywalking.

“[Henriquez] was convicted of two misdemeanors — not felonies — misdemeanors, and there is no standard in the House for expulsion based on misdemeanor convictions” Cofield said on a radio show late last week. “Almost every one of us . . . commits a misdemeanor. Jaywalking is a misdemeanor. Would you have a state representative legislator expelled from the House for jaywalking?”

Cofield penned a letter on behalf of the NEAC NAACP urging House members to abstain from voting to expel Henriquez, who was nonetheless later expelled from the House by a vote of 145 to 5.


Posted by: mallfly at February 11, 2014 11:13 AM (bJm7W)

36 Another suicide in Ft. Marcy park that started over in the White House you mean Navycopjoe?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 11:13 AM (Z/g31)

37

Could someone please put me some f'ing knowledge... what was that "say my name" part a clip from? Some movie I guess?

 

It's from Breaking Bad, after Walter White has gone full-on badass.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 11, 2014 11:13 AM (A0sHn)

38 Andrea Mitchell, a "real" "reporter" FIFY

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:13 AM (7ObY1)

39 Washington Free Beacon is a narcissistic looney toon of a site !!!part of the vast right wing conspiracy

Posted by: msnbc, totaly non-partisan at February 11, 2014 11:13 AM (yrk2K)

40 OK, but WFB is kind of a joke. It's a pseudo-populist "omg wacky libs" rag that, so far as I can tell, doesn't actually advocate for anything substantively conservative. aka perfect for a blog like this that's centered around overblown resentment from people who are slightly rightwing.

Posted by: Jeff at February 11, 2014 11:14 AM (vd6Gd)

41 There was no Internet when they wrote the First Amendment to The Constitution so the Free Beacon should be shut down in the name of decency. 

Posted by: Andrea at February 11, 2014 11:14 AM (cgtTL)

42 They are open about their bias, IMHO. Trouble is we're still upholding objectivity as an ideal. If you want to fight it, have a hack fight and cancel each other out, elseways its just another Overton Window thinger

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 11:14 AM (3ZtZW)

43 27 Could someone please put me some f'ing knowledge... what was that "say my name" part a clip from? Some movie I guess? ------ Breaking Bad

Posted by: Adam at February 11, 2014 11:14 AM (Aif/5)

44 I think it's good. And we can, of course, refer to left-wing media outlets as "the rabidly anti-Republican X", "left-wing website Y", "viciously partisan anti-conservative Z". The ruling class media will never change due to our complaints. The best we can do is copy the propaganda techniques that they employ. I'm not say we have to be propagandists. There are left-wingers who are honest and reasonable and have productive policy conversations. They just mostly aren't in the media. But when engaging the media directly there's no reason to expect them to behave any different than they do. They aren't trying to be reasonable. They are trying to win. Mostly by demonization.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:14 AM (ZPrif)

45 There's being a reporter with admitted bias and then there's msnbc. The biased reporter will still report on news and while coloring things to their view it is still journalism. Msnbc is full throated ball licking propaganda for the progressive agenda. They're not biased reporters they're the democrat party's media outlet.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 11, 2014 11:15 AM (Qb9Z9)

46 I don't know, I still feel like even though their bias is blatantly obvious now, a lot of progressives are still patting themselves on the back for how unbiased NBC and MSNBC are. So it's like the people who need to see the bias to start questioning the reporting can't even see it so what difference does it make?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at February 11, 2014 11:15 AM (RZ8pf)

47 Listening to Gabe's HuffPo thing..  This Noam Scheiber guy talks and talks and talks... geez!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 11, 2014 11:15 AM (b/lt+)

48 and
"
So the question presented is, "Were we right when we thought it would be better if the media just confessed their bias?" 
" 
No difference, to them, saying that Hillary! is "incredibly accomplished" and talking trash about Sarah Palin is proof of their objectivity.

Posted by: mallfly at February 11, 2014 11:15 AM (bJm7W)

49 Proceed carefully.

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at February 11, 2014 11:15 AM (6bMeY)

50 Missed you Ace

Posted by: Adrienne at February 11, 2014 11:16 AM (lVcuh)

51 Could someone please put me some f'ing knowledge... what was that "say my name" part a clip from? Some movie I guess? It's from Breaking Bad, after Walter White has gone full-on badass. One of my favorite scenes in the whole damn run of the show. That was when Walter went full-on Heisenberg. It was so great, a transcript is in order. Loved Mike's little nod of acknowledgment. Jonathan Banks was a fucking genius on that show: Declan: Who the hell are you? Walter White: You know. You all know exactly who I am. Say my name. Declan: Do what? I don't... I don't have a damn clue who the hell you are. Walter White: Yeah, you do. I'm the cook. I'm the man who killed Gus Fring. Declan: Bullshit. Cartel got Fring. Walter White: Are you sure? [Declan looks at Mike and Mike shakes his head] Walter White: That's right. Now, say my name. Declan: [quietly] Heisenberg. Walter White: You're goddamn right.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:16 AM (7ObY1)

52 The Deborah Saunders article in the sidebar is a good read regarding these Hillary revelations.

Whodathunk that ALL of Hillary's accomplishments and high offices are directly attributable to the virtues espoused by Tammy Wynette in "Stand by your man"...Hillary reinforcing for womyns everywhere the mantra, "Suck it up, it don't matter who sucks it, as long as you get your rewards."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 11, 2014 11:16 AM (kXoT0)

53
    Bias, in and of itself, is not objectionable.  I doubt there has EVER been an unbiased press or media outlet.

    I believe the problem arises in the bleeding of that bias from the op-ed page into the hard news reporting.

    Control that, and then you have something approximating a real newspaper or media.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 11, 2014 11:16 AM (SAMxH)

54 So the question presented is, "Were we right when we thought it would be better if the media just confessed their bias?" Because, having seen what it looks like, I'm not so sure it is better. MSNBC is simply taking this as a liberation to be as crudely partisan as possible. Except, they have lost so much viewership. So has CNN. And, look how hard CNN is now trying to "right" the ship.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 11:17 AM (IXrOn)

55 36. Basically Or she could take a plane ride

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 11, 2014 11:17 AM (fA5xz)

56 When was it, exactly, that the media was credible?  Certainly not in my lifetime.  Walter Cronkite?  nope.  Peter Jennings? not really.  Dan Rather? LOL.
We learned about yellow journalism, muckraking, and general shabby state of "news" reporting in the early 20th.  WWII brought some positive news, but most of that was gov't propaganda.  Maybe the 50s?  I don't have any examples from the 50s.
We can all think of credible reporters, but as a whole, I can't think of a time the news media didn't follow a liberal agenda.

Posted by: dax at February 11, 2014 11:17 AM (XyoGP)

57 Just realized a similarity to the "say my name" scene and the all-time classic ending scene of High Plains Drifter. (from memory) The Midget: "Stranger, I never did know your name" The Man With No Name: "Yeah. Yeah you did."

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:18 AM (7ObY1)

58 Ace nice to see you! There's a hawk tearing a small mouse to pieces in my backyard. I think it's an omen as you just reappeared.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2014 11:18 AM (oFCZn)

59 MSNBC questioning the validity of someone's media credentials is like that guy Weir from NBC Sports questioning someone's masculinity?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 11:18 AM (t3UFN)

60

Declan: Who the hell are you?

 

OT paternal pride moment: I named No. 1 Son "Declan" (21 years ago, before it was hip).

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 11, 2014 11:18 AM (A0sHn)

61 There's a hawk tearing a small mouse to pieces in my backyard. Go team Raptor!

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 11:19 AM (PYAXX)

62 Pshew. We were worried about you, Ace.

Also, better if they're up-front about their bias. That makes it easier to point and laugh.

Posted by: joncelli at February 11, 2014 11:19 AM (RD7QR)

63 It's from Breaking Bad, after Walter White has gone full-on badass. Walter who?

Posted by: Heisenberg at February 11, 2014 11:19 AM (S0eIZ)

64 Good thing the chick who wrote the papers is dead

Or she would be soon

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 11, 2014 03:12 PM (fA5xz)


I bet the Clintons wish her husband had let them "vet" the papers before he donated them.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 11, 2014 11:19 AM (kXoT0)

65
Andrea Mitchell should be awarded "Best of Show" for her willingness to give Alan Greenspan blowjobs without publically complaining or puking when he makes her swallow. 

Posted by: The Greenspan Maid at February 11, 2014 11:19 AM (nQjHM)

66
Fixers Standard Chide on Bias:

Bias is a subconscious, unintentional slant that manifest itself in ones activities.

What the MFM does is not bias.  It's deliberate.  It's planned.  It's coordinated.  Its on fucking purpose.

It is not bias.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2014 11:19 AM (nELVU)

67 #40 I think you have WFB confused with the Daily Caller.  DC is the one that's more or less trying to be a rightwing BuzzFeed, with listicles and dumb pop culture stories along with a smattering of somewhat lame conservative commentary.  WFB is doing real reporting and has broken some big stories, especially about waste and abuse going on inside the federal government.  Matthew Continetti is one of the most perceptive reporters and commentators out there. 

Posted by: rockmom at February 11, 2014 11:19 AM (aBlZ1)

68 MSNBC knows they can convince a lot of people that something is false just by pointing out where the information came from. Fox could take the exact wording of an article from some lefty publication and it would be denounced as right-wing propaganda solely on the basis that Fox reported it.

Posted by: Mainah at February 11, 2014 11:19 AM (659DL)

69 I'll take free bacon over MSBS any day.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 11, 2014 11:19 AM (reoHU)

70 My 3:00 patient is 20 minutes late and counting. On the other hand she is 101 years old also, so......?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 11:20 AM (t3UFN)

71 good to see you made bail

Posted by: brak at February 11, 2014 11:20 AM (iEoiA)

72 Jaywalking is a lot like punching a woman in the face for denying you sex. You know, you'd have to walk all the way to the corner to find another chick.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2014 11:20 AM (wTgwx)

73 MSNBC gets decent ratings. Especially in the "demo", as they say (25-54, I think), that advertisers care most about. Fox crushes in overall viewers, but it's competitive in younger viewers, and MSNBC occasionally beats them in the demo. MSNBC hasn't suffered financially from going hard left. They destroy CNN these days. Going hard left was a good business decision for MSNBC. They went from #3 to #2. They have more influence today that when they were just CNN-lite. It might be bad business for NBC as a whole and NBCNews. But MSNBC has profited from their hard-left move.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:20 AM (ZPrif)

74 It. Is. Alive!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 11, 2014 11:20 AM (TIIx5)

75

>>>And we can, of course, refer to left-wing media outlets as "the rabidly anti-Republican X", "left-wing website Y", "viciously partisan anti-conservative Z".

 

Will get translated as "correct". Maybe better to characterize as robotic, braindead, unoriginal, hypocritical, etc. Use their swears against them.

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 11:20 AM (3ZtZW)

76 Who cares what MSNBC says, its not like anyone watches that outlet
________________________________

Well, it makes the bias of the MSM look reasonable and minor by comparison.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at February 11, 2014 11:20 AM (nnkXw)

77 As I keep saying, at some point you cross the line, and "biased reporting" becomes "volunteer propaganda". What I've seen in the MFM these last several years does not qualify as "reporting". MSNBC is the worst, but the rest are pretty enthusiastically in on the fix, too. Just look at Barbara Walters. Considered a "respected journalist", and applauded as having been the 1st woman national anchor, she comes out and says - offhand! - "We thought he was going to be the Messiah" (or something like that). Nobody even THINKS to remark about how outrageously weird it is for a grown-up, much less a person in her position, to say such a thing, or to even ask her WTH, exactly, that's even supposed to MEAN!?!

Posted by: Optimizer at February 11, 2014 11:21 AM (saDM3)

78 Ace, next time you go and disappear, please tell us you're disappearing, okay? Some of the 'ettes, not me of course, miss you and start to worry about you and stuff.

Posted by: L, elle at February 11, 2014 11:21 AM (Cuj/g)

79 Kelly only beat Maddow by 6k viewers (25-54) on Friday.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:21 AM (ZPrif)

80 70 My 3:00 patient is 20 minutes late and counting. On the other hand she is 101 years old also, so......? Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 03:20 PM (t3UFN) She still has her original teeth?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 11, 2014 11:21 AM (bCEmE)

81


It is one of the few still Rev Wright-free zones, and thank God for that, and all you RICH WHITES OUT THERE. You're on notice honky!


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Christies at February 11, 2014 11:21 AM (xggaJ)

82 Well, at least we don't have to endure the childish chanting of "Faux News".

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 11:22 AM (aDwsi)

83 Over the weekend, I was at a nice bar/ restaurant, mocking the NBC Olympic coverage with a young and capable bartender who seemed to have a solid and ambitious head on his shoulders... Until he mentioned that he get's his news from Colbert and Stewart. I laughed when he said it, thinking that he was joking. He just gave me a puzzled look, the proceeded to extol the seriousness and virtues of Comedy Central "news". There really is no hope left for the country.

Posted by: Damiano at February 11, 2014 11:22 AM (j0wOO)

84 Gabe talking now. "Attorney and Blogger at Ace of Spades HQ" tagline pretty professional (never been there)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 11:23 AM (IXrOn)

85 Last week Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow won their timeslot for the week in the demo (25-54). Matthews beat Greta 285k to 282k. Maddow beat Megyn 341k to 335k.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:23 AM (ZPrif)

86 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 03:20 PM (ZPrif) Spot-on. Precisely. I've been trying to explain that to conservatives for years now. But most conservatives just jump up and down with glee every time a right-wing site crows about FOX's ratings, and ignore the cold, hard truth.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:23 AM (7ObY1)

87 I'm sure that the 9 people that actually watch MSNBC are duly concerned.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:23 AM (x3YFz)

88 There was no Internet when they wrote the First Amendment to The Constitution so theFree Beacon should be shut down in the name of decency. Along with NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, since there wan no tv either.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 11, 2014 11:23 AM (E7Zh9)

89 Yes, they say "Nobody watches MSNBC anymore", but they have better ratings, IIRC, than CNN, and "nobody watches network news anymore" either. So how is it that the MFM is still contolling the conversaion? Is Jon Stewart the most powerful man in America?

Posted by: Optimizer at February 11, 2014 11:23 AM (saDM3)

90 Just got back.  It lives!  It lives!

Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2014 11:23 AM (kPiYr)

91 Just for what it's worth, Hillary Rodham could not carry Tammy Wynette's tampon case.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 11, 2014 11:24 AM (xq1UY)

92 Well, at least we don't have to endure the childish chanting of "Faux News".

There's a new attack on FNC floating around Twitter: a photo collage that proves they're all white (and mostly female, but I thought that was a good thing?).

I gather none of the people who think this is witty have seen MSNBC.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 11, 2014 11:24 AM (B/VB5)

93 The Midget: "Stranger, I never did know your  horse's name"

The Man With No Name: "There ain't no one for to give it no name."

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 11:24 AM (3ZtZW)

94 85 Last week Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow won their timeslot for the week in the demo (25-54).

Matthews beat Greta 285k to 282k.
Maddow beat Megyn 341k to 335k.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 03:23 PM (ZPrif)

For every victim of a train wreck, 50 people observe.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:25 AM (x3YFz)

95 I'm going to hold judgement on the Hillarybeast until I see her in yoga pants It's how I judge all women now

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 11, 2014 11:25 AM (fA5xz)

96 There really is no hope left for the country. Posted by: Damiano at February 11, 2014 03:22 PM (j0wOO) You should have asked if he worked for The Onion.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 11:25 AM (IXrOn)

97 Is Jon Stewart the most powerful man in America? Sadly- one of them. Last week Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow won their timeslot for the week in the demo (25-54). You mean the demo that largely doesn't have money anymore? I'm sorry, but I'm thinking "total viewers" is quickly becoming more important than "the demo" since it's pretty quickly becoming people 24- and 55+ who have disposable income. Well, 55+, anyway. 24- always had "disposable income" just not much of it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 11:26 AM (PYAXX)

98 If you can see who Hillary is with your own eyes, there is something wrong with you.

If you can see who Obama is with your own eyes, there is something wrong with you.

If you have to wait for someone to tell you who these people are, there is something wrong with you.

After all of that, if you continue to insist that modern democrats are something other than what they actually are, there is something wrong with you.

If you believe that it was  only kooks and cranks who were warning about these modern democrats, even after those 'kooks and cranks' have been proven right all along, there is something wrong with you.

Posted by: None so blind, as those who will not see at February 11, 2014 11:26 AM (TuuiS)

99 Just look at Barbara Walters. Considered a "respected journalist", and applauded as having been the 1st woman national anchor, she comes out and says - offhand! - "We thought he was going to be the Messiah" (or something like that). Nobody even THINKS to remark about how outrageously weird it is for a grown-up, much less a person in her position, to say such a thing, or to even ask her WTH, exactly, that's even supposed to MEAN!?! Wasn't she the one who wrote about Castro letting her hold his gun? In that recollection it's obvious she was about as sexually excited by that as one can be.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 11, 2014 11:26 AM (J79eW)

100 Tangentially related: After our two year FIOS contract expired they hit us with a huge price increase. The only way we could get it into our comfort range again was to drop a tier of television. Included in that tier? Not MSNBC or CNN. Nope. Fox News. Fox News should be behind a la carte cable. I would pay a little extra to have them again, but that 'tier' I dropped cost $20.00 a month.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 11, 2014 11:26 AM (CnA98)

101 First time Matthews has won his timeslot since Sept 2012 - DNC convention week. Maddow has won her timeslot for the week twice so far this year. The constant media drumbeat that only old, angry, white men watch FoxNews does seem to be a long term strategy that might work as a way for the Left to delegitimize FoxNews and ride the changing demographics of America to victory.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (ZPrif)

102 First time Matthews has won his timeslot since Sept 2012 - DNC convention week. Maddow has won her timeslot for the week twice so far this year. The constant media drumbeat that only old, angry, white men watch FoxNews does seem to be a long term strategy that might work as a way for the Left to delegitimize FoxNews and ride the changing demographics of America to victory.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (ZPrif)

103 can, can't kant what the fuck difference does it make.

Posted by: None so blind, as those who will not see at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (TuuiS)

104 can, can't kant what the fuck difference does it make.

Posted by: None so blind, as those who will not see at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (TuuiS)

105 I'm going to hold judgement on the Hillarybeast until I see her in yoga pants Why do you hate yourself so?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (E7Zh9)

106 I'm going to hold judgement on the Hillarybeast until I see her in yoga pants Why do you hate yourself so?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (E7Zh9)

107
There's a new attack on FNC floating around Twitter: a photo collage that proves they're all white


Hey, what about me?

Posted by: Uma Pamarajrajrajhu at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (nQjHM)

108
There's a new attack on FNC floating around Twitter: a photo collage that proves they're all white


Hey, what about me?

Posted by: Uma Pamarajrajrajhu at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (nQjHM)

109 Ace goes dark. Shirley Temple "dies". Ace resurfaces soon after. Coincidence?

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (TjI1n)

110 That said- we really do need to destroy the MFM, but no one "on our side" who has the means ALSO has the will.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (PYAXX)

111 think it's an omen as you just reappeared.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2014 03:18 PM (oFCZn)

Quick....go outside and read its entrails!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (QFxY5)

112 Ace goes dark. Shirley Temple "dies". Ace resurfaces soon after. Coincidence?

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (TjI1n)

113 That said- we really do need to destroy the MFM, but no one "on our side" who has the means ALSO has the will.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (PYAXX)

114 think it's an omen as you just reappeared.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2014 03:18 PM (oFCZn)

Quick....go outside and read its entrails!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (QFxY5)

115 @66 "Fixers Standard Chide on Bias: Bias is a subconscious, unintentional slant that manifest itself in ones activities. What the MFM does is not bias. It's deliberate. It's planned. It's coordinated. Its on fucking purpose. It is not bias." EXACTLY, dude! It's propaganda, pure and simple. "Bias" is so 90's!

Posted by: Optimizer at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (saDM3)

116 @66 "Fixers Standard Chide on Bias: Bias is a subconscious, unintentional slant that manifest itself in ones activities. What the MFM does is not bias. It's deliberate. It's planned. It's coordinated. Its on fucking purpose. It is not bias." EXACTLY, dude! It's propaganda, pure and simple. "Bias" is so 90's!

Posted by: Optimizer at February 11, 2014 11:27 AM (saDM3)

117 On the other hand she is 101 years old also, so......?

She still has her original teeth?

SHE'S STILL ACTIVE DUTY??!!

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 11, 2014 11:28 AM (xq1UY)

118 On the other hand she is 101 years old also, so......?

She still has her original teeth?

SHE'S STILL ACTIVE DUTY??!!

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 11, 2014 11:28 AM (xq1UY)

119 Hillary will be "old" in 2016.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 11, 2014 11:28 AM (659DL)

120 Hillary will be "old" in 2016.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 11, 2014 11:28 AM (659DL)

121 I'm pretty sure the Clintons vetted my papers.

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (aDwsi)

122 I'm pretty sure the Clintons vetted my papers.

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (aDwsi)

123 I'm going to hold judgement on the Hillarybeast until I see her in yoga pants Just take a trash bag and fill it with mashed potatoes. There ya go

Posted by: brak at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (iEoiA)

124 I'm going to hold judgement on the Hillarybeast until I see her in yoga pants Just take a trash bag and fill it with mashed potatoes. There ya go

Posted by: brak at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (iEoiA)

125 She still has her original teeth? SHE'S STILL ACTIVE DUTY??!! Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 11, 2014 03:28 PM (xq1UY) Yup, she is a Master Chief. Nope in my private practice

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (t3UFN)

126 She still has her original teeth? SHE'S STILL ACTIVE DUTY??!! Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 11, 2014 03:28 PM (xq1UY) Yup, she is a Master Chief. Nope in my private practice

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (t3UFN)

127 The advertising industry still mainly cares about younger viewers. That's why sports TV rights are booming in value. The data I'm reporting is from TV news industry sites. Usually industry sites report on data that is important to the industry insiders, I assume they know their industry better than I do.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (ZPrif)

128 The advertising industry still mainly cares about younger viewers. That's why sports TV rights are booming in value. The data I'm reporting is from TV news industry sites. Usually industry sites report on data that is important to the industry insiders, I assume they know their industry better than I do.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (ZPrif)

129 WFB just came out with a follow-up story that the Univ. of Arkansas professor that NBC had on the nightly news show last night is an open Hillary for President supporter, which of course they did not mention. 

Posted by: rockmom at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (aBlZ1)

130 WFB just came out with a follow-up story that the Univ. of Arkansas professor that NBC had on the nightly news show last night is an open Hillary for President supporter, which of course they did not mention. 

Posted by: rockmom at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (aBlZ1)

131 Hey, what about me? Posted by: Uma Pamarajrajrajhu at February 11, 2014 03:27 PM (nQjHM) The fuck, what about Harris Faulkner? Hottest of the hot.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (7ObY1)

132 Hey, what about me? Posted by: Uma Pamarajrajrajhu at February 11, 2014 03:27 PM (nQjHM) The fuck, what about Harris Faulkner? Hottest of the hot.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (7ObY1)

133 I'm happy now.

Posted by: Dawn dish soap at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (PuK8O)

134 I'm happy now.

Posted by: Dawn dish soap at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (PuK8O)

135 Just for what it's worth, Hillary Rodham could not carry Tammy Wynette's tampon case.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 11, 2014 03:24 PM (xq1UY)


Nope.  Miss Wynette was a beautiful woman with great talent, style, and grace.  Mrs. Clinton is a noted feminist, who in order to reap political rewards for herself, never did one dayum thing to help women and has lived her entire adult life in subservience to one man's insatiable sexual appetites and at times violent predations on other women and who often actively participated in the character assassinations of his victims.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (kXoT0)

136 Just for what it's worth, Hillary Rodham could not carry Tammy Wynette's tampon case.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 11, 2014 03:24 PM (xq1UY)


Nope.  Miss Wynette was a beautiful woman with great talent, style, and grace.  Mrs. Clinton is a noted feminist, who in order to reap political rewards for herself, never did one dayum thing to help women and has lived her entire adult life in subservience to one man's insatiable sexual appetites and at times violent predations on other women and who often actively participated in the character assassinations of his victims.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 11, 2014 11:29 AM (kXoT0)

137 I'm pretty sure the Clintons vetted my papers. Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster ---------------- Hey!... mine too.

Posted by: Rose Law Firm at February 11, 2014 11:30 AM (aDwsi)

138

I got three things out of the summary of the Hillary papers.

 

1.  Bill Clinton banged Hillary's closest friend, Blair.

 

2.  Hillary lied  once again in  denying she ever seriously considered a single payer.

 

3.  Hillary actually was right about the Balkans  though  probably for the wrong reasons. 

Posted by: polynikes at February 11, 2014 11:30 AM (m2CN7)

139 I'm going to hold judgement on the Hillarybeast until I see her in yoga pants There are a couple of pictures of Hillary in a skirt. She has fine, sturdy legs, like a draft horse. Only thicker.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 11, 2014 11:30 AM (J79eW)

140 On the other hand she is 101 years old also, so......? She still has her original teeth? SHE'S STILL ACTIVE DUTY??!! Gives new meaning to "lifer"

Posted by: rickb223 at February 11, 2014 11:30 AM (E7Zh9)

141 @101 "... The constant media drumbeat that only old, angry, white men watch FoxNews does seem to be a long term strategy that might work as a way for the Left to delegitimize FoxNews and ride the changing demographics of America to victory." So "Angry white men" watch Fox, but everybody else watches Maddow, who's an angry white man? It's all so confusing...

Posted by: Optimizer at February 11, 2014 11:31 AM (saDM3)

142 Madame Mao-American style- wants her place in the sun and her media supporters want it too. And I certainly hope that Mrs. Clinton has a happy death-unlike the real Madame Mao-and is converted to the Christian faith she claims.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 11, 2014 11:31 AM (XyM/Y)

143 I'm not happy, at all, that MSNBC's hard-left move has been a ratings and influence winner. But it has.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:31 AM (ZPrif)

144 What the hell is this obsession with MSNBC, they're losers over there. If anyone is a kook or crank, it's the people at MSNBC.

Damn, the government over run with treasonous traitorous openly proudly Marxist-Leninists, and you're obsessing over a fringe broadcaster with no audience?
 

Posted by: None so blind, as those who will not see at February 11, 2014 11:31 AM (TuuiS)

145 Fox News should be behind a la carte cable. I would pay a little extra to have them again, but that 'tier' I dropped cost $20.00 a month.

Posted by: Regular Moron at February 11, 2014 03:26 PM (CnA9

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

No Andrea Tarantula or Katie Pavlich for you.

Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2014 11:32 AM (kPiYr)

146 My grandmother just passed at 105, with all her original teeth. She was still going "home" to visit Italy up to her 100th b-day. Never slowed down, never lost her marbles and didn't even use a cane until the last few months. When she passed, she wasn't even sick or anything. One night, she just told my Aunt she was really tired that night, laid down and died. That's the way I want to go.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:32 AM (7ObY1)

147 112. Just take a trash bag and fill it with mashed potatoes. There ya go Now there's a boner killer

Posted by: Navycopjoe at February 11, 2014 11:32 AM (fA5xz)

148 I thought kant defined how the media tilted?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 11:32 AM (Z/g31)

149 I doan fill no waize tared.

Posted by: Hillary Africanus Clinton at February 11, 2014 11:32 AM (6bMeY)

150 So by their logic (now, I say that knowing that the left is incapable of it) we can ignore all global warming/climate change/anti capitalist nonsense because it came from "left wing" websites and is therefore incredible (truest sense of the word)?

logic.  It evades them.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:32 AM (x3YFz)

151 But, but Mitt Romney put his dog on the car roof, killed cancer patients and cut gay boys hair in High School.... Now that's real news.... MSM

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at February 11, 2014 11:33 AM (9+ccr)

152

This Ace fellow is pretty awesome at the blogging thing.  He has a real future in the game. 

 

But until he does a whole Andrea Mitchell  Skank-a-thon his potential will only be half-realized.  He will  be spoken of as a "nascnet award winner",  a  "real comer in his day" and a  "fellow who could have been the champ".

   

Posted by: MTF at February 11, 2014 11:33 AM (B5y+v)

153 How do we know this is the real ace and not some lunatic?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 11:33 AM (38LLM)

154 We're all Peruvian now.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 11:34 AM (6bMeY)

155 I am rather sorry that we haven't heard any insider comments regarding the run against Obama. I'll bet Hillary was frothing at the mouth.

Posted by: Rose Law Firm at February 11, 2014 11:34 AM (aDwsi)

156 you're obsessing over a fringe broadcaster with no audience Ixnay on criticizing ace. He'll either ban your ass or go into hiding again. One of those options I care about.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 11, 2014 11:34 AM (CnA98)

157 Harris Faulkner, Charles Payne, David Webb, Juan Williams.

Toss in Alan Combes for the transluscent demographic.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2014 11:34 AM (nELVU)

158 We now interrupt our continuing coverage of Christie's bridge scandal to briefly express our love for Hillary.  Now back to Christie...

Posted by: MSNBC at February 11, 2014 11:35 AM (wAQA5)

159 http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/b/bachman_turner_overdrive/welcome_home.html

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at February 11, 2014 11:35 AM (DL2i+)

160 "... The constant media drumbeat that only old, angry, white men watch FoxNews does seem to be a long term strategy that might work as a way for the Left to delegitimize FoxNews and ride the changing demographics of America to victory."

This is why I think mocking MMFA's declaration of victory over Fox News is missing the point.  A *huge* number of people who've never seen it assume FNC is some kind of weird illegitimate channel that makes shit up about Obama because they hate black people and makes shit up about video games because ratings.

It's very similar to how everyone who's never heard the show knows everything there is to know about Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 11, 2014 11:35 AM (B/VB5)

161 It does seem that NBCNews is not happy with MSNBC. And hopefully we can use MSNBC's success against it. That's what the Left is trying to do to Fox. They acknowledge Fox is the ratings leader. They just constantly smear how it only shows there are a lot of angry old white people afraid of minorities, women, and gays still in America.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:36 AM (ZPrif)

162 139 Harris Faulkner, Charles Payne, David Webb, Juan Williams. And lots of Red Eye panelists. One night, Gutfeld had an almost all-black panel. Sherrod Small thanked Greg for having all the brothers on that night.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:36 AM (7ObY1)

163 135 How do we know this is the real ace and not some lunatic?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 03:33 PM (38LLM)

/Looks up "Ace" in dictionary.  (n) "some lunatic"

I'm confused.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:36 AM (x3YFz)

164 Harris Faulkner had a shining moment the other day. She was on with an ex-SEAL (you can say that, right?), discussing airline security. And he said summat along the line of "Of course you wouldn't get on that airplane..."

She went all steely and said "My dad was a fighter pilot. I don't scare that easily."

/J Carson "I.did.not.know.that." /J Carson

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 11, 2014 11:36 AM (xq1UY)

165 2 Andrea Mitchell may not be much to look at but the bitch knows her way around a colostomy bag.

Posted by: Alan Greenspan at February 11, 2014 03:05 PM (8ZskC)


Just shot an Altoid out my nose and damn that hurts!

I think the MFM gets crazier and more desperate the more their secular messiah fucks up.

Posted by: real joe at February 11, 2014 11:37 AM (ysx3E)

166 13 Who cares what MSNBC says, its not like anyone watches that outlet. The next conservativepresident ought to shit can their broadcast permit. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 11, 2014 03:07 PM (4Vr+0) _________ Watch that video....it's not just MSNBC, it's NBC and CNN and pretty much everybody.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 11:37 AM (0LHZx)

167

>>>How do we know this is the real ace and not some lunatic?

 

White pants after Labor Day = Lunatic

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 11:37 AM (3ZtZW)

168 Is this the real Ace, or a cob-logger pretending to be him, to convince the Hoard that Ace isn't dead, comatose, incarcerated, inebriated, incapacitated, inoculated or stuck in Vegas trying to get an annulment of last night's wedding to a tranny?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2014 11:37 AM (wcvVw)

169 I for one welcome our new wider stance.

Posted by: Larry Craig at February 11, 2014 11:37 AM (6bMeY)

170 So the question presented is, "Were we right when we thought it would be better if the media just confessed their bias?" Because, having seen what it looks like, I'm not so sure it is better. MSNBC is simply taking this as a liberation to be as crudely partisan as possible. ************** It is now worse. What MSNBC and CNN have reduced themselves to is-- cheerleading. What has happened in the public dialogue, discourse and Court of Public Opinion is-- the dialectic or real debate has been essentially starved. And we talk about the Electric Soma effect--the dumbing down of the American public that sits passively and excepts the wisdom of the New Elite Class in America--The Talking Heads--and isn't even exposed to a-- conflict of opinion. A struggle of ideas. It kind of brings to mind an earlier theme or hypothesis that a comfortable conflict free environment were Americans acquire things easily is also dumbing down America. Add to that a monolith of opinion with little variance being beamed into their living rooms via-- NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 11:38 AM (RJMhd)

171 Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2014 03:37 PM (wcvVw) Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 11:38 AM (PYAXX)

172 That's the way I want to go. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 03:32 PM (7ObY1) What good is sitting alone in your room? Come hear the music play Life is a cabaret, old chum Come to the cabaret Put down the knitting, the book and the broom It's time for a holiday Life is a cabaret, old chum So come to the cabaret Come taste the wine Come hear the band Come blow that horn Start celebrating right this way Your table's waiting What could permitting some prophet of doom To wipe every smile away Life is a cabaret, old chum So come to the cabaret I used to have this girlfriend known as Elsie With whom I shared four sordid rooms in Chelsea She wasn't what you'd call a blushing flower As a matter of fact she rented by the hour The day she died the neighbors came to snicker "Well, that's what comes from too much pills and liquor" But when I saw her laid out like a Queen She was the happiest corpse, I'd ever seen I think of Elsie to this very day I remember how she'd turn to me and say "What good is sitting all alone in your room? Come hear the music play Life is a cabaret, old chum Come to the cabaret And as for me And as for me I made my mind up, back in Chelsea When I go, I'm going like Elsie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 11:38 AM (t3UFN)

173 Is this the real Ace, or a cob-logger pretending to be him, to convince the Hoard that Ace isn't dead, comatose, incarcerated, inebriated, incapacitated, inoculated or stuck in Vegas trying to get an annulment of last night's wedding to a tranny?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2014 03:37 PM (wcvVw)

yes. Obviously.  To all of the above.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:38 AM (x3YFz)

174 On the other hand, MSLSD does seem to have The Incredible Shrinking Viewership. So if they go far enough left, maybe they'll finally collapse and either be forced back toward the center, or just die. Or limp along in irrelevance, like Air America did for so long. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 03:12 Ditto. Their ratings are in toilet. Sometimes I think most of their viewers are from the right so they can make fun of them on conservative/ righty blogs or websites. How about a 3 month moratorium on any mention of msnbc, piers, Andrea, et al? Comments can still be made but instead of using name you say " a liberal cable channel", "a liberal guy w leg tingles.". I guess what I'm trying to say is if a libtard farts in the forest does anyone really hear it?

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 11, 2014 11:39 AM (HnHZq)

175

>>>Is this just fantasy?

 

Its a fantasy life

Posted by: Aldo Nova at February 11, 2014 11:39 AM (3ZtZW)

176 It kind of brings to mind an earlier theme or hypothesis that a comfortable conflict free environment ^where^ Americans acquire things easily is also dumbing down America. Add to that a monolith of opinion with little variance being beamed into their living rooms via-- NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc. -- ^and you have a very real problem.^

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 11:39 AM (RJMhd)

177 I remember the days before we had Fox News on our local cable. The Commie Buffalo News had a great time attacking a channel no one could actually watch, since it gave them carte blanche to make false accusations against FOX. I still remember a fuckwad Commie named Jeff Simon (A TV critic, but to the Left, everything is political) saying "Next thing you know, they will stop all the pretense and just sit there and read the news wearing KKK robes." I remember thinking, how can such a horribly racist channel exist in this day and age? And with FOX's imprint on it! (Those days, FOX was synonymous with their then-new entertainment division, The Simpsons and all that.) When we finally got FOX locally, I of course discovered that the lying liars had been (gasp) lying about FOX.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:40 AM (7ObY1)

178 One night, Gutfeld had an almost all-black panel. Sherrod Small thanked Greg for having all the brothers on that night. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 03:36 PM (7ObY1) That was probably the night one of them declared using the word "thug" was very racist. Another on the panel agreed. That it was fact. I was pretty angry to hear that. If it's racist in particular circles of people, so be it, but to say I can't call someone a thug, because, then, I am racist, is ludicrous. What made me angry was their insistence that it was purposely racist. People were using the word thug like using the "n" word. Which is total bs. A thug is a thug.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 11:40 AM (IXrOn)

179 Just cut the cable and you are free of these clowns.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 11:40 AM (6bMeY)

180

MSNBC - always preaching to the choir.

 

Bias is always ugly and Andrea Mitchell is the perfect spokesperson for that.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - President's Day Sale - All Red Hot Rage 15% Off! at February 11, 2014 11:40 AM (hLRSq)

181 What MSNBC and CNN have reduced themselves to is--

cheerleading.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 03:38 PM (RJMhd)

And, the cheerleaders make up for being stupid by being so ugly that when they fell out of the ugly tree the branches got out of the way.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:40 AM (x3YFz)

182 So, where is the is supposed rating, in the URL, it's not football season either,


Posted by: jeffrey pelt at February 11, 2014 11:41 AM (Jsiw/)

183 >>You mean the demo that largely doesn't have money anymore? You'd think they'd really need Free Bacon, wouldn't you? OT: Weather dot com has a map on the home page showing possible and likely power outages. I'M IN THE ORANGE ZONE, I'M IN THE ORANGE ZONE. I think that means I have to panic. Or prepare to make french toast, at least. Can we burn Val-U-Rite to keep warm??

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 11, 2014 11:41 AM (SUKHu)

184 With Hill as the Candidate it will be almost as bad as Obama. No one will be able to say anything "mean" about the poor little defenseless Female.... or SEXISM!!!

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at February 11, 2014 11:41 AM (9+ccr)

185  The next conservativepresident ought to shit can their broadcast permit.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 11, 2014 03:07 PM (4Vr+0)

 

 

MSNBC is cable - it doesn't have a broadcast license.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - President's Day Sale - All Red Hot Rage 15% Off! at February 11, 2014 11:41 AM (hLRSq)

186 Wouldn't it be eerie if Ace came back from "the farm," and he was all lefty slanted and stuff?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 11:41 AM (IXrOn)

187 Damn, the government over run with treasonous traitorous openly proudly Marxist-Leninists, and you're obsessing over a fringe broadcaster with no audience? Now that's some classic RINO talk there.

Posted by: TRUE! CON! at February 11, 2014 11:41 AM (S0eIZ)

188 The admitted or non-admitted biases are just a symptom of a larger and more pervasive problem -- the portrayal of leftism as "good, right, and normal" and conservatism as "extreme, narrow, and minor".



Under that formulation, lefties can admit their bias, but cover it with "isn't that what any normal person would think?"

Posted by: cthulhu at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (T1005)

189 But, but Mitt Romney put his dog on the car roof, killed cancer patients and cut gay boys hair in High School.... Now that's real news.... MSM - Didja see Mooch's tweet on Twitchy of the picture of their dogs wearing diamonds and eating from China? What if the Romneys had done that?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (Uu93Z)

190 rich fatassed homicidal Female.... or SEXISM!!!

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at February 11, 2014 03:41 PM (9+ccr)

fixed.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (x3YFz)

191

>>>  Their ratings are in toilet. Sometimes I think most of their viewers are from the right so they can make fun of them on conservative/ righty blogs or websites.

 

Try this one: Nobody watches because they only say what everybody already knows and agrees with. Therefore, they say outrageous stuff to get all the cranky rightwinger cranks going because that's funny to them.

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (3ZtZW)

192 A thug is a thug. ------------------- Next you will be claiming that 'gay' means 'happy'. I have no idea what my point is.....

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (aDwsi)

193 O'Reilly crushes Daily Show in total viewers. Daily Show more than doubles O'Reilly in 18-49 demo viewers.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (ZPrif)

194

The ratings quoted upthread.  Couldn't higher ratings be motivated by OFA or the leftist blogs?  Couldn't  MSLSD be patting themselves on the back for a temporary reprieve  by a nationwide campaign  to up their ratings for a time?

Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (kPiYr)

195 >>In the old days, we would complain about media bias.


The jig is certainly up, ace always spells "old" "olde" like in the times of yore. Who is this imposter?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (38LLM)

196 She went all steely and said "My dad was a fighter pilot. I don't scare that easily." That just made Harris even hotter. I don't usually go much for the black wimminz, but Harris Faulkner is a stone-cold goddess.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (7ObY1)

197 Speaking of cheerleading- my son's cub scout pack presented the colors at Saturday's TCU Women's basketball game, so we got cheap tickets to watch. I realized those gyrations the cheerleaders do are a lot less enticing when you realize some of them are half your age, and none of them are half-plus-seven.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (PYAXX)

198 Yes, getting them to admit the bias is as good as we can hope for.  And always have been.

Newspapers 100 years ago were just as biased.  There were Republican papers and Democrat papers and sometimes the editors would go on political crusades with front-page editorials every day to whip up public opinion. 

"Objective journalism" is a myth.

What we can and should do is get the government out of the education business so taxpayers don't have to subsidize the tenured "journalism" professors who are drawn from the pool of "those too stupid for the English Department" and are generally flaming leftists who never worked a day as paid journalists.

Posted by: Adjoran at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (QIQ6j)

199 Wouldn't it be eerie if Ace came back from "the farm," and he was all lefty slanted and stuff? Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 03:41 PM (IXrOn) Shades of Chuckles at LGF?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at February 11, 2014 11:42 AM (9+ccr)

200 Remember, anything said by an Unperson of Jesusland is per se false, no matter if said Unperson is quoting accurately a true person.

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at February 11, 2014 11:43 AM (VtjlW)

201

Rush was talking about  this yesterday.  Apparently this broad (who is now dead?)  was saying Hilary was  lamenting the fact that  she was a  neglectful wife, and if she had somehow been more supportive of her husband...

 

Which, if that's what it says, is a  competitor for lie of the century, along with Obama's "You can keep your insurance" thing. 

 

Really?  We're supposed to believe these people actually behave like... people?  Come on!

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2014 11:43 AM (TOk1P)

202 A thug is a thug. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 03:40 PM (IXrOn) No No No.... it is a Racist statement, because you are equating American Criminals, to US! and that is insulting in the extreme, to us...

Posted by: Thuggee at February 11, 2014 11:43 AM (84gbM)

203 This isn't reality.  This is fantasy!
http://youtu.be/MPQvVBaOx2E

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 11:43 AM (Z/g31)

204 167 The next conservativepresident ought to shit can their broadcast permit. No. No. No. No. A thousand times no. WE are not the side that silences opposition. WE are not the Fascists. WE cannot abandon our love of liberty and the 1st amendment over politics.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:44 AM (7ObY1)

205 >>>Is this just fantasy?

Its a fantasy life

Sometimes a fantasy is all you need.

Posted by: Billy Joel at February 11, 2014 11:44 AM (4WhSY)

206 10 Ace! *smothers with kisses* Posted by: Mindy at February 11, 2014 03:06 PM (mQwL2) I see you got your shots.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2014 11:44 AM (oFCZn)

207 Remember, anything said by an Unperson of Jesusland is per se false, no matter if said Unperson is quoting accurately a true person.

Accurately quoting a True Person is Hate Speech.

Posted by: HR at February 11, 2014 11:44 AM (ZKzrr)

208 But no one, no how is allowed to criticize a democrat. Didn't you know the rules?

Posted by: CandyCrowley at February 11, 2014 11:44 AM (4qkEq)

209 I've said this before about Fox ratings....it doesn't mean shit. It's the only non-left wing news option. So of course it's going to get huge ratings. But if you add up all the news viewers from all sources...(Fox, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, ABC, NBC, CBS), Fox ratings are a drop in the bucket. Same with the WSJ....kick ass numbers, most read newspaper in the country. Great!! Except it's one paper out of thousands. And like Fox, it's the only marginally non-communist newspaper so it has 100% share of that market.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 11:45 AM (0LHZx)

210 Shut up Billy!  You got yourself an Uptown Girl...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 11:45 AM (Z/g31)

211 Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 03:44 PM (7ObY1) Killing them with kindness only works when your opposition has both a sense of decency and a sense of shame.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 11, 2014 11:45 AM (PYAXX)

212

168 -

 

One thing we know for  certain, the anti-Ace will be clean-shaven. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2014 11:45 AM (TOk1P)

213 Shut up Billy! You got yourself an Uptown Girl...

Not for long.

Posted by: HR at February 11, 2014 11:46 AM (ZKzrr)

214 Its a part... of my rock n roll fantasy.

Posted by: Bad Company at February 11, 2014 11:46 AM (nELVU)

215 Yipee Ace is back!!!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at February 11, 2014 11:46 AM (HVff2)

216 Upton girl?

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 11, 2014 11:46 AM (t8ySh)

217

>>>Wouldn't it be eerie if Ace came back from "the farm," and he was all lefty slanted and stuff?

 

I keep wanting us all to do a lefty-day. I'd be in fkg stitches

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 11:46 AM (3ZtZW)

218

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 03:40 PM (IXrOn)

 

Thugs  originally  referred to  an  organized gang of murders and robbers in India.   

Posted by: polynikes at February 11, 2014 11:47 AM (m2CN7)

219 The jig is certainly up, ace always spells "old" "olde" like in the times of yore. Who is this imposter? Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 03:42 PM (38LLM) So, all the 'ettes that just liberated their bras for Ace's return just got punked?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 11:47 AM (IXrOn)

220 What good is sitting alone in your room? Come hear the music play Life is a cabaret, old chum Come to the cabaret - Just ignore the Nazis in the aisles.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2014 11:47 AM (Uu93Z)

221 Remember, anything said by an Unperson of Jesusland is per se false, no matter if said Unperson is quoting accurately a true person Swiftquoting!!!11!!

Posted by: Leftist Fucktard at February 11, 2014 11:47 AM (S0eIZ)

222 Shut up Billy! You got yourself an Uptown Girl...

That hasn't happened for the longest time.

Posted by: Billy Joel at February 11, 2014 11:47 AM (4WhSY)

223 Hairless, even.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2014 11:48 AM (TOk1P)

224 navycopjoe She's been dead for 10 years. They have been trying to get access to these papers for awhile now. There are still a set of papers-(-don't know how many)--that they still cannot get access to.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 11:48 AM (RJMhd)

225 It's also odd that "ace's post" isn't riddled with grammatical errors and f-bombs. Hmm.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 11:48 AM (38LLM)

226 191 I've said this before about Fox ratings....it doesn't mean shit. It's the only non-left wing news option. So of course it's going to get huge ratings. But if you add up all the news viewers from all sources...(Fox, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, ABC, NBC, CBS), Fox ratings are a drop in the bucket.

Same with the WSJ....kick ass numbers, most read newspaper in the country. Great!! Except it's one paper out of thousands. And like Fox, it's the only marginally non-communist newspaper so it has 100% share of that market.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 03:45 PM (0LHZx)

I teach the 18-24 demographic.  They don't have cable.  They don't have DirecTV.  They have the internet, Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime.

The statistics are bullshit.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:48 AM (x3YFz)

227 So, all the 'ettes that just liberated their bras for Ace's return just got punked?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 03:47 PM (IXrOn)


Bras on a WFH day, surely you jest?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 11, 2014 11:48 AM (kXoT0)

228

Shut up Billy! You got yourself an Uptown Girl...

Not for long.

 

Which gave rise to the saying, "no matter how hot you think a girl is, some guy somewhere is sick of her shit".

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 11, 2014 11:48 AM (A0sHn)

229 I keep wanting us all to do a lefty-day. I'd be in fkg stitches Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 03:46 PM (3ZtZW) I would need to go through a decontamination shower afterwards, but, yeah, hella funny.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 11:48 AM (IXrOn)

230 That hasn't happened for the longest time
http://youtu.be/a_XgQhMPeEQ

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 11:49 AM (Z/g31)

231 @181 hello, "Shades of Chuckles at LGF?" Frito Lay made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at February 11, 2014 11:49 AM (eApcZ)

232 You can already see Fox moving to the center (ie to the left) to get more viewers, especially younger viewers. One reason I hope BlazeTV gets picked up by Comcast and the big boys so they can keep pressure on Fox. Libertarians pretty much have their own official show now on Fox Business -- The Independents (with MTV VJ Turned Flat-Chested 40 year old Kennedy). Fox Business ratings still suck though. Uber suck.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:49 AM (ZPrif)

233 I keep wanting us all to do a lefty-day. I'd be in fkg stitches
Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 03:46 PM (3ZtZW)

Sorry, I can't force my spine to be that supine...

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, think mink. at February 11, 2014 11:50 AM (kXoT0)

234 I need a drink

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 11:50 AM (t3UFN)

235 >>It's also odd that "ace's post" isn't riddled with grammatical errors and f-bombs. Hmm. And I clicked on the links and they all work and go to the right place. Hmmmmmm. Okay, I didn't really click on them. I'll only go so far for a joke.

Posted by: Mama AJ at February 11, 2014 11:50 AM (SUKHu)

236 Neither do these numbers indicate this pattern,

Posted by: jeffrey pelt at February 11, 2014 11:50 AM (Jsiw/)

237 You can already see Fox moving to the center (ie to the left) to get more viewers, especially younger viewers. I don't see that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 11:50 AM (t3UFN)

238 ... the ettes wear bras???

Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2014 11:50 AM (nELVU)

239 "Shades of Chuckles at LGF?"

Frito Lay made me an offer I couldn't refuse.


Posted by: Charles Johnson at February 11, 2014 03:49 PM (eApcZ)

We should forgive... but dammit if I don't wand a vid of that guy getting his pony tail stuck in his bicycle chain.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:51 AM (x3YFz)

240 Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 03:42 PM (3ZtZW) Noted. That was the point I was trying to make. I think. It's all about pissing off the right at that "liberal cable channel. ". Then the right spreads their vituperativeness.

Posted by: olddog in mo at February 11, 2014 11:51 AM (HnHZq)

241

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 03:20 PM (ZPrif)

================================

 

I think you're reading cherry-picked Olympic influenced ratings, or your source chose an unreasonably compressed time period, since (last I read) FNC was dominating in January and closed out the month actually leading all cable stations in viewership.  While the demo numbers will necessarily be less, they still seemed to be doing pretty well in the demo (I had thought).  What link did you use for your facts?

Posted by: MTF at February 11, 2014 11:51 AM (B5y+v)

242 214 They still have the Midnight Cowboy in the morning. He is the foundation of suck.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 11:51 AM (6bMeY)

243 Welcome back, ace. I missed you.

Posted by: Y-not at February 11, 2014 11:52 AM (zDsvJ)

244 I need a drink Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 03:50 PM (t3UFN) Make Shirley Temple.* *add alcohol of your choice

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 11, 2014 11:52 AM (IXrOn)

245 And I clicked on the links and they all work and go to the right place. Hmmmmmm. That does seem peculiar...

Posted by: Lesbian Pron at February 11, 2014 11:52 AM (S0eIZ)

246 .... speaking of Shirley Temple..... RIP.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2014 11:53 AM (nELVU)

247 In all seriousness, all reporters should be forced to appear on MSNBC* one week a year so we get to know what they're really thinking.


*Spit.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 11:53 AM (38LLM)

248  It's also odd that "ace's post" isn't riddled with grammatical errors and f-bombs. Hmm.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 03:48 PM (38LLM)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

I'm more worried about the No No in Ace's bathroom. 

Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2014 11:53 AM (kPiYr)

249 105 Ace goes dark. Shirley Temple "dies". Ace resurfaces soon after. Coincidence? Posted by: Brass Bancroft at February 11, 2014 03:27 PM (TjI1n) Wait, Shirley Temple was a crippled hobo?

Posted by: Iblis at February 11, 2014 11:53 AM (9221z)

250 No, the TV ratings stats are actually pretty good. The industry professional with billions on the line really do know about factors like Hulu and Netflix. The "it's all bullshit" attack doesn't hold water anymore than the "polls are skewed and bullshit" did in the last two elections. The TV industry is huge and they constantly work to get as good of data as possible for decision making. Tens, hundreds, of billions of dollars are at stake. The industry just of getting good data on media viewership is itself a sizeable industry.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:53 AM (ZPrif)

251 225 Welcome back, ace. I missed you.

Posted by: Y-not at February 11, 2014 03:52 PM (zDsvJ)

you two need a moment?

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:54 AM (x3YFz)

252 I can't believe Shirley Temple didn't warrant a better spot at Matt's place.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 11:55 AM (6bMeY)

253 tvbythenumbers and mediabistro are good sources for TV ratings data

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 11:55 AM (ZPrif)

254 you two need a moment?

I hear the barrel is free at the moment...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 11:55 AM (Z/g31)

255 Ace! Back from Polar Vortex!

Hillary seems like such a sweet, darling gal. I have no idea why Bill strays.

Do the Dems have no one else to run against Cankles?

Let's see, any bad thing said against Baroque was raciss. Anything bad said against Auntie Mame is anti-feminism bias right wing. Am I leaving out any other excuse?

I like a recent email, a photo of Biden, that said "I am not racist, I don't like Biden, either." xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 11, 2014 11:55 AM (baL2B)

256 @233 Pancakes! ;-)

Posted by: Y-not at February 11, 2014 11:55 AM (zDsvJ)

257 232 No, the TV ratings stats are actually pretty good. The industry professional with billions on the line really do know about factors like Hulu and Netflix.

The "it's all bullshit" attack doesn't hold water anymore than the "polls are skewed and bullshit" did in the last two elections.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 03:53 PM (ZPrif)

ok, smart guy.  Back it up.  Linkys.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:56 AM (x3YFz)

258 Mask wearing is a class 6 felony in my state.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 11:56 AM (6bMeY)

259 Ace!

*smothers with kisses* Posted by: Mindy


*fap fap fap fap fap*

Posted by: Mork at February 11, 2014 11:56 AM (MNq6o)

260 I teach the 18-24 demographic. They don't have cable. They don't have DirecTV. They have the internet, Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime. The statistics are bullshit. Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:48 PM (x3YFz) __________ Nobody 18-24 watches the news? I find that a little hard to believe. But even if this is true, so what? The under 25 set makes up a very small % of voters. For the future, TV news won't be as important. But right now and for the next 10 years at least, it matters.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 11:57 AM (0LHZx)

261 It's also odd that "ace's post" isn't riddled with grammatical errors and f-bombs. Hmm.
Posted by: Dr Spank

Those fucking f-bombs.

Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 11:58 AM (MNq6o)

262 Nobody 18-24 watches the news? I find that a little hard to believe. But even if this is true, so what? The under 25 set makes up a very small % of voters. For the future, TV news won't be as important. But right now and for the next 10 years at least, it matters. Maybe five. Cable cutting is all the rage.

Posted by: Iblis at February 11, 2014 11:59 AM (9221z)

263 Total number of Netflix subscribers 29.2 million 2013 Q1 Revenue $1 Billion 2013 Q1 Profit $3 Million Number of hours spent by Netflix members watching streamed video on hi-speed internet 2 billion hours Total number of Netflix viewers who watch live stream via video game console 50%

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:59 AM (x3YFz)

264 @221 tangonine "We should forgive... but dammit if I don't wand a vid of that guy getting his pony tail stuck in his bicycle chain." Forgive what? I don't dwell on him, but when I run across a reference about chuck, I feel pity for the shmuck. He blew it-- but it was also his to blow.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at February 11, 2014 11:59 AM (eApcZ)

265 228 .... speaking of Shirley Temple..... RIP. Just watched that classic clip of her and Bojangles tap-dancing on the staircase. I wonder how many 1930s racist hearts melted when she put her tiny hand in his and beamed up at him like that.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 11:59 AM (7ObY1)

266 They have the raw papers at the very bottom of the page. This part is interesting: Feb.23 reading papers w.HC; sick re children casual violence. BC bitching re slowness of FBI checks. At dinner, HC to BCat length on complexities of health care-thinks managed competition--a crock;single payer necessary; maybe added to Medicare. Candid assessment of assorted MC's all of whom , HC predicts, will arise to KILL them on this.[...]

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 11:59 AM (RJMhd)

267 that's as of May, 2013

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 11:59 AM (x3YFz)

268

>>>Sorry, I can't force my spine to be that supine...

 

You can be the other stereotype - the blowhard which is always wrong and is a thug. You know, a troll and an internet tough guy

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 11:59 AM (3ZtZW)

269 I've lived through the Clinton Years. My take: A giant document dump that makes Hillary look tough, lean, and mean. Battle ax at the ready. A real street fighter. So, that makes her attractive to the partisan Left. No soft center-Left pol to see here, Comrades! She's setting up for the primaries. Here's the kicker in the Beacon's piece, at the bottom:

"While thousands of Diane BlairÂ’s papers are available to the public at the University of Arkansas Library, an undisclosed number of documents remain kept in a restricted section of the archive. The Free Beacon was unable to gain access to those documents "

Classic Clinton. Just, Classic.

Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2014 12:00 PM (JBggj)

270 Chukkkles is in the great Recycle Bin of the Internet.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 12:00 PM (Z/g31)

271 VRWC !!!!  get your bumperstickers now friends.

Posted by: Jean at February 11, 2014 12:00 PM (4JkHl)

272 Well that was interesting. After all this MSNBC talk I thought I'd see what was going on in the asylum today. Krystal Ball (yes, her real name) just gave an impassioned editorial stating that she does not want Hillary next cycle because she is too centrist! The real hero she wants to see run in Warren. What a bunch of lunatics.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 12:00 PM (g1DWB)

273 MSNBC has become its own The Onion #msnbullshit

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 11, 2014 12:00 PM (OA6Aw)

274 Total number of Netflix viewers who watch live stream via video game console 50% Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 03:59 PM (x3YFz) __________ And? I watch tons of Netflix streaming too. Sometimes via video game console. AND I watch the news. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 12:01 PM (0LHZx)

275 Her name is Krystal because Speed was already taken.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 12:01 PM (Z/g31)

276

OT:   Via Moe Lane and the Chicago Tribune.  Illinois is buying ObamaCare ads on The Onion in order to entice the young to sign up.

 

No, I am not making this up.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - President's Day Sale - All Red Hot Rage 15% Off! at February 11, 2014 12:02 PM (hLRSq)

277

237 -

 

Colon "Blow" Powell! 

 

Sometime after the '14  elections, he announces he's gay, switching parties, and a candidate for President.

 

The left swoons.  Game over for  Hillery. 

Posted by: BurtTC at February 11, 2014 12:02 PM (TOk1P)

278

>>>Mask wearing is a class 6 felony in my state.

 

Really?

What kinda sentences get handed down to teh muslim wimmen?

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 12:02 PM (3ZtZW)

279 PLEASE refer to the washed-up, pony-tailed, corpulent failed jazz musician as Jharles Chonson. The Sage of Culver City obsessively Googles himself to see who's talking about his fat ass. We don't need Jharles sending Kalegore Trout over here on a Moby mission like he did to Hot Gas.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 12:02 PM (7ObY1)

280 And Amazon Prime streaming is pretty much free if you count in the free shipping savings.

We went from paying ~$90/mo for Directv to $15/mo.

math is hard.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:02 PM (x3YFz)

281 I wonder how many 1930s racist hearts melted when she put her tiny hand in his and beamed up at him like that. You should see all the lefties on twitter re Temple. "Die you Republican! I hate people who disagree with me politically!"

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at February 11, 2014 12:02 PM (J79eW)

282 MSNBC is simply taking this as a liberation to be as crudely partisan as possible.
=====================

Um, how exactly is that different than before?

Posted by: physics geek at February 11, 2014 12:02 PM (MT22W)

283 >>>But meanwhile, at MSNBC, the party is in high gear, led by Mistress of Ceremonies Andrea Mitchell, a real reporter, you know.

Not just MSNBC; when Andrea Mitchell reported this on NBC last night with Brian Williams, prime time news on the channel hosting the olympcs, I'm pretty sure she said it the same way: right-wing, anti-Clinton. Almost positive.
(And yes, I denounce myself for watching that drivel; was at my mom;s and she watches it nightly.)

A few nights NBC Nightly News did a major report on concussions in sports, to tie in with the Olympics. I get the feeling that once they take down football for the concussion prob, the rest of the contact/extreme sports will be painted as equally eeevil. Which is a shame. How are we supposed to get Michelle's "kids" in shape if they are all too scared of injuries to get off the couch and go outside?

Posted by: LizLem at February 11, 2014 12:03 PM (BF+2f)

284 Is this the real Ace, or a cob-logger pretending to be him, to convince the Hoard that Ace isn't dead, comatose, incarcerated, inebriated, incapacitated, inoculated or stuck in Vegas trying to get an annulment of last night's wedding to a tranny? Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 11, 2014 03:37 PM (wcvVw) yes. Obviously. To all of the above. Posted by: tangonine If you read the blog backwards it spells "Ace is dead".

Posted by: Daybrother at February 11, 2014 12:03 PM (xERlB)

285 "While thousands of Diane BlairÂ’s papers are available to the public at the University of Arkansas Library, an undisclosed number of documents remain kept in a restricted section of the archive. The Free Beacon was unable to gain access to those documents " Classic Clinton. Just, Classic. What is it with these schools and their impenetrable security? We can't get Barry's records, can't see Hillary's thesis, but a drop out can steal everything from the NSA? Where's G. Gordon Libby and the Plumbers when you need 'em.

Posted by: Iblis at February 11, 2014 12:03 PM (9221z)

286 And? I watch tons of Netflix streaming too. Sometimes via video game console. AND I watch the news.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 04:01 PM (0LHZx)

Hey, it's your $$.

I just type "foxnews.com" into my browser.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:03 PM (x3YFz)

287 I already gave you the data and told you my sources. You said, Nah, it's all bullshit. Whatever, don't believe me. I'm not saying what should or shouldn't be done about things. I'm saying I personally trust the top tier public industry data as the most reliable source of what's going on. There is even better data you can get as an industry insider -- like quarter hour breakdowns -- but I can only look at publicly available data. Not much incentive to try and convince you with TV ratings data if you just say, nah, it's all bullshit. Showing you even more ratings data probably won't help. It's not a big deal. Don't believe the TV ratings data if you don't want to. It's not my data. When I analyze an industry from the outside I try to find the most respected industry data sources. Not sure how else to understand an industry.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 12:04 PM (ZPrif)

288 Cable cutting is all the rage. I was out in the street yesterday with the Verizon FIOS crew while they performed microsurgery on a broken fiber optic line with a suitcase filled with stuff out of a James Bond movie. Cool stuff. But when I mentioned cable cutting to one of the crew him he stiffened. He claimed that the numbers were BS; in Verizon's case they count someone who drops the traditional copper wire as gone. In most cases they then go to fiber optic. So like just about everything else in life, I don't know who to believe.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 11, 2014 12:04 PM (CnA98)

289 Illinois is buying ObamaCare ads on The Onion in order to entice the young to sign up.
Posted by: Mikey NTH


Ha ha ha ha - huh?  This ad is for real?  HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Posted by: Youngsters at February 11, 2014 12:04 PM (MNq6o)

290 Oh!  and no commercials and I don't have to fund stupid lefty channels like MSNBC.

So there's *that* added benefit.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:05 PM (x3YFz)

291 "a restricted section of the archive."

If we had a real bastard on the right, he would just make shit up and claim it came from this section -- other women, when Bill Richardson grabbed her ass, personal attacks on fellow Dims, travelgate, Chinese fund raising, ....  make them open the section to prove it wrong.

Posted by: Jean at February 11, 2014 12:05 PM (4JkHl)

292 I teach the 18-24 demographic. They don't have cable. They don't have DirecTV. They have the internet, Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime.

One of my co-workers is about 30, no cable, no satellite.  He torrents The Daily Show and Colbert Report every day and watches them.

It's worse than tangonine thinks, IOW.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 11, 2014 12:05 PM (B/VB5)

293 260 I couldn't find a case. Two yahoos wore masks to a movie a few weeks after Aurora and were convicted and face 1-5 years and up to a $2,500 fine.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 12:06 PM (6bMeY)

294 Speaking of Netflix, The Following is about as an intense a TV show as I've ever seen on basic cable. Spotty at times in the eight episodes I've watched, but very much like a long-form novel from the Suspense/Thriller shelf.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 11, 2014 12:06 PM (ZshNr)

295 I bet you the main thing Hillary has going for her is that-- The Left is fueled by irrational HATRED. Voting for Hillary will be sticking it to The Right--and they will vote for her--solely for that reason. I don't know how we deal with that.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 12:07 PM (RJMhd)

296 New ace seems too calm and collected for my tastes.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 12:07 PM (38LLM)

297 Strange that we haven't heard from Mary Cloggenstein  lately.

Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2014 12:07 PM (kPiYr)

298
The mfm palace guard is sworn to protect king obama and queen hillary, or queen obama and queen hillary or queen obama and king hillary, whichever gender they "identify" as.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2014 12:08 PM (n0DEs)

299 Doris Day/Rock Hudson movie on TCM. Damn, could that Rock Hudson act!

Posted by: Erowmero at February 11, 2014 12:08 PM (OONaw)

300 Voting for Hillary will be sticking it to The Right--and they will vote for her--solely for that reason.

I don't know how we deal with that.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 04:07 PM (RJMhd)

The hardcore hippies will always vote D, even if it means their own self destruction.

You can't fix stupid.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:08 PM (x3YFz)

301

>>>Two yahoos wore masks to a movie a few weeks after Aurora and were convicted and face 1-5 years and up to a $2,500 fine.

 

It'd be cool if it were like that Twilight Zone episode where they take the masks off and they looked like that anyway.

 

But really the lawyer was inept. They should appeal on grounds of wigs. And burqas.

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 12:09 PM (3ZtZW)

302 Voting for Hillary will be sticking it to The Right--and they will vote for her--solely for that reason.

Posted by: tasker


That's why they do EVERYTHING.  Phillip Seymour Hoffman probably found out The Right hates heroin.

Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 12:09 PM (MNq6o)

303

New ace seems too calm and collected for my tastes.

 

New ace is made with high fructose corn syrup, which is bullshit.  Classic ace had sugar.  Now you have to buy Mexican ace to get real sugar.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 11, 2014 12:09 PM (A0sHn)

304 Ofra Haza being a bit pop Mata Hari  Visuals are interesting also.
http://youtu.be/_8Ty8hOW9T8

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 11, 2014 12:09 PM (Z/g31)

305 Lincolf - I forget where in NC you are? Weather?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 12:10 PM (aDwsi)

306 I was out in the street yesterday with the Verizon FIOS crew while they performed microsurgery on a broken fiber optic line with a suitcase filled with stuff out of a James Bond movie. Cool stuff. But when I mentioned cable cutting to one of the crew him he stiffened. He claimed that the numbers were BS; in Verizon's case they count someone who drops the traditional copper wire as gone. In most cases they then go to fiber optic. So like just about everything else in life, I don't know who to believe. Posted by: Regular Moron at February 11, 2014 04:04 PM (CnA9 I've got a friend at Verizon too. He says their profits come from wireless. One of the reasons they try to force everyone to a data plan. Running and maintaining cables/fiber is expensive. Especially when towns like mine try to extort TV studios from Verizon for permission to run FIOS. Needless to say my town doesn't have FIOS and I'm stuck with DSL & Satellite. It is funny how the cable cutters are really just swapping cables, from TV only to Internet.

Posted by: Iblis at February 11, 2014 12:10 PM (9221z)

307 From Nielsen: "There are 5.1 million broadcast-only/broadband homes, compared to 80.8 million cable-plus/broadband homes and 22.3 million homes that subscribe to cable-plus and no broadband. Though broadcast only/broadband homes comprise the smallest subscriber group, the number of these homes has increased by 22.8 percent since Q3 2010." 20 years from now, cable probably won't exist. For the time being though, it's ridiculous to say "nobody watches TV"

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 12:10 PM (0LHZx)

308 Now you have to buy Mexican ace to get real sugar.

Too bad Mexican Coke switched to corn syrup.

There is no escape from Archer-Daniels-Midland.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 11, 2014 12:10 PM (B/VB5)

309 285 What about Ace Throwback? It's only available in 12 pack cans.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 12:10 PM (6bMeY)

310

>>>The Following is about as an intense a TV show as I've ever seen

 

People do rave about it but the wife and I were both very meh about it. Couldn't buy into the storyline, and if you can't its over.

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 12:10 PM (3ZtZW)

311 254 Well that was interesting. After all this MSNBC talk I thought I'd see what was going on in the asylum today. Krystal Ball (yes, her real name) just gave an impassioned editorial stating that she does not want Hillary next cycle because she is too centrist! The real hero she wants to see run in Warren. What a bunch of lunatics. Posted by: JackStraw at February 11, 2014 04:00 PM (g1DWB) ********** Oh gawd. It looks like she got her talking points. The new thing is to "sell Hillary!" as a correction to Obama. ObamaCare--doesn't have Hillary's! name on it.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 12:10 PM (RJMhd)

312 Mexican Ace gives me gas.

Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 12:10 PM (MNq6o)

313 You should see all the lefties on twitter re Temple. "Die you Republican! I hate people who disagree with me politically!" Posted by: bonhomme at February 11, 2014 04:02 PM (J79eW)

I saw that too. A combo of libs getting the vapors at her being a "pro war hawk", in their words, during the vietnam war, mixed with "she be racist, of course" due to a photo of her appearing on film in blackface, someone pulled out from somewhere. Luckily most people are not knee-jerk political animals and the majority of the tweets are sweet and positive.

Posted by: LizLem at February 11, 2014 12:11 PM (BF+2f)

314 Damn, could that Rock Hudson act! Posted by: Erowmero --------------- ISWYDT

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 12:11 PM (aDwsi)

315 I also don't understand the "Yay, FoxNews is #1" combined with the "MSNBC winning younger viewers is bullshit" memes since it's the exact same data source. You can't both cheer FoxNews' high ratings and call bullshit on the demo ratings for MSNBC and the Daily Show -- it's the same data source. The same Nielsen ratings service providing the data.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 12:12 PM (ZPrif)

316 The TV industry is huge and they constantly work to get as good of data as possible for decision making. Tens, hundreds, of billions of dollars are at stake. The industry just of getting good data on media viewership is itself a sizeable industry. Hundreds of billions of dollars up for grabs + sizeable industry. Nope no room for funny business.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 11, 2014 12:12 PM (E7Zh9)

317 Crudely Partisan was a great song by The Fall, but it was best in the 12" disco mix.

Posted by: Null at February 11, 2014 12:12 PM (P7hip)

318 That's why they do EVERYTHING. Phillip Seymour Hoffman probably found out The Right hates heroin. Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 04:09 PM (MNq6o) ********** Oh probably. It's all about the rebellion.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 12:12 PM (RJMhd)

319 The hardcore hippies will always vote D, even if it means their own self destruction. You can't fix stupid. Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:08 PM (x3YFz) So will the free shit army. They are now a major part of the electorate and can never be convinced to stop taking free shit. You see, everybody believes in slavery, just so long as they aren't the slave.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 11, 2014 12:13 PM (bb5+k)

320 Harry Reid Praises Boehner For “Doing The Right Thing” By Passing “Clean” Debt Ceiling Bill… A good rule of thumb for GOP leaders should be: If Dingy is praising you, you’re doing something horribly wrong. Weasel Zippers: Being in bed with harry reid is not where I'd want to be

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 12:13 PM (t3UFN)

321 I was all into the Following for about 5/6 episodes. Then it started getting kind of old and repetitive and I stopped watching.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 12:13 PM (0LHZx)

322 MSNBC is just waiting for the old people (you know, the ones with experience, and a grasp of history) to die off.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 12:13 PM (aDwsi)

323 20 years from now, cable probably won't exist. For the time being though, it's ridiculous to say "nobody watches TV"

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 04:10 PM (0LHZx)

yeah... uh... I never said that, cowperson.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:13 PM (x3YFz)

324 297 I also don't understand the "Yay, FoxNews is #1" combined with the "MSNBC winning younger viewers is bullshit" memes since it's the exact same data source. You can't both cheer FoxNews' high ratings and call bullshit on the demo ratings for MSNBC and the Daily Show -- it's the same data source. The same Nielsen ratings service providing the data. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 11, 2014 04:12 PM (ZPrif) *********** And NBC, ABC and CBS nightly news wipe them out don't they?

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 12:14 PM (RJMhd)

325 yeah... uh... I never said that, cowperson. Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:13 PM (x3YFz) ________ Sure you did. Don't backtrack.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 12:14 PM (0LHZx)

326 I was living in the soon-to-be EU when Fox was started. I watched multiple State 'News" outlets to get an idea of what was really going on. There was virtually no difference between the BBC, French and the Russian news services. Same as Central and South American "News". It is unusual in most of the World when you can watch or read the news and believe you have learned most of the facts. Up until 50+ years ago you could do that in America; you might have to read 5 papers a day but the facts were there somewhere--no more. There have always been Hearsts and Yellow journalism but I don't believe there has ever been such a complete emulation of State Media as practiced in failed societies abroad. It is a grim milestone.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 11, 2014 12:14 PM (VZ+vk)

327 ace must've been making an epic batch of "pancakes".

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 11, 2014 12:14 PM (rCOda)

328 Needless to say my town doesn't have FIOS and I'm stuck with DSL & Satellite. What is really shocking is the penetration of fiber optic in this country is behind some third world countries. We're Rome, with the barbarians at the gate, thinking we're still great.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 11, 2014 12:14 PM (CnA98)

329 You see, everybody believes in slavery, just so long as they aren't the slave.


Posted by: D-Lamp at February 11, 2014 04:13 PM (bb5+k)

The irony is that the free shit army are the slaves.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:15 PM (x3YFz)

330 Diet ace will give you the shits.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 12:15 PM (38LLM)

331 Not sure how else to understand an industry. Posted by: Flatbush Joe

Evaluate how those who know the industry invest their own money.

Posted by: Jean at February 11, 2014 12:16 PM (4JkHl)

332 307
yeah... uh... I never said that, cowperson.
Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:13 PM (x3YFz)

________

Sure you did. Don't backtrack.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 04:14 PM (0LHZx)

Please link the post # where I said that.  G'head, smartass.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:16 PM (x3YFz)

333 What is really shocking is the penetration of fiber optic in this country is behind some third world countries. We're Rome, with the barbarians at the gate, thinking we're still great.

That's a weird single metric to base "greatness" on.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 11, 2014 12:17 PM (t8ySh)

334 Strawmen beware.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 12:17 PM (6bMeY)

335 What is really shocking is the penetration of fiber optic in this country is behind some third world countries.

Verizon has actually stopped expanding FiOS - towns that have it now are all that will likely ever get it, with some exceptions.  All the local governments want their graft opportunities to allow the installation, and it's a nightmare to deal with.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 11, 2014 12:17 PM (B/VB5)

336 The irony is that the free shit army are the slaves.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:15 PM (x3YFz)

 

 

-------------------------------------------------------

 

 

Really?  I don't see any of those assholes working. 

Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2014 12:17 PM (kPiYr)

337 312 Diet ace will give you the shits. Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 04:15 PM (38LLM) ********* So it's already available? Squirt!

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 12:17 PM (RJMhd)

338 MSNBC doesn't win 25-54 often. The fact it makes headline news when it does happen shows how rare it is. For Feb 6 this is the breakdown 329 to 253 But what is interesting is the 35-64 breakdown Fox wins that 796-554 So relatively speaking, yeah MSNBC does better with "younger" viewers. But the 35-64 is more influential politically speaking than the 25-54, I think.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 12:17 PM (0LHZx)

339 Bitch slapping.  Sigh.  New thread, please?  Pretty please? With a bindlestiff on top?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 11, 2014 12:18 PM (A0sHn)

340 I'm working on Politics as Pie Theory. The Dems keep their factions pacified by doling out and redistributing-- Shut Up Pie! And we are making the pie.--or something.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 12:19 PM (RJMhd)

341 Just watched that classic clip of her and Bojangles tap-dancing on the staircase.
-
Shirley Temple lap danced Bojangles?

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 11, 2014 12:19 PM (XUKZU)

342 Too bad Mexican Coke switched to corn syrup. There is no escape from Archer-Daniels-Midland. Posted by: Ian S. at February 11, 2014 04:10 PM (B/VB5) Did it? That explains why the last time I had one it was not as satisfying as I had come to expect.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 11, 2014 12:19 PM (bb5+k)

343 So relatively speaking, yeah MSNBC does better with "younger" viewers. But the 35-64 is more influential politically speaking than the 25-54, I think.

Right, but when 35-64 is your big win, all your ads are for boner pills, testosterone supplements, and Rascal Scooters.  Which tends to make watching the channel for any length of time annoying.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 11, 2014 12:19 PM (B/VB5)

344 Moomoo, you're a troll not worth eating, as you posses zero nutritional value.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:19 PM (x3YFz)

345 I heard a ways back that the next thing was already invented. Wireless infinite internet that doesn't need lines. Many Verizon line crews lost their jobs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 12:19 PM (6bMeY)

346 I like Super-Sour-Tropical Ace the most.

Very-Berry Ace is pretty good.

Mouth-Full-of-Shit Ace is probably the worst.

Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 12:19 PM (MNq6o)

347 This thread is getting older than MSNBC's bullshit.

Posted by: Soona at February 11, 2014 12:20 PM (kPiYr)

348 It is a grim milestone. Posted by: Daybrother at February 11, 2014 04:14 PM (VZ+vk) Hey hold on there skippy. WE decide what is or isn't a grim milestone, okay?

Posted by: MSM at February 11, 2014 12:20 PM (oFCZn)

349 That's a weird single metric to base "greatness" on. Agreed. But basic infrastructure like telephone lines should remain stuck in 1950's technology forever? WTF? See also; Drudge Report for 24/7 reporting of other metrics. Need a link for that?

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 11, 2014 12:21 PM (CnA98)

350 @327: Wireless is definitely the future, but it still needs towers to be built and high-speed wirelines (usually fiber) run to the towers.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 11, 2014 12:21 PM (B/VB5)

351 >>>MSNBC "News" Wants You to Know That That Hillary Document Dump Came from an "Anti-Clinton" "Rightwing" "Website"

added a little flair to the title.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at February 11, 2014 12:21 PM (0q2P7)

352 Just got around to viewing the 'dogs at the table' pic from Michelle. https://twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/433028472689012736/photo/1 Am I the only one that noticed that the dinner table looks like it was purchased at a an airport gift shop? Tacky.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 12:21 PM (aDwsi)

353
Remember when they tried the new Sour Cream and Onion Ace.  Yeah that wasn't popular.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 11, 2014 12:21 PM (n0DEs)

354 What is really shocking is the penetration of fiber optic in this country is behind some third world countries. We're Rome, with the barbarians at the gate, thinking we're still great. Posted by: Regular Moron

Thats a stupid industry stat.  FO follows a strict tyranny of money and distance.  Here, we have space, lots of space, existing systems (so less money), and more space.  Your high penetration numbers represent small, wealthy populations in close proximity.  And, I suspect they limit their "markets" to wealthy enclaves and urban settings.  The real game changer is the rapid distribution of cheap cellular service.

Posted by: Jean at February 11, 2014 12:21 PM (4JkHl)

355 326 Moomoo, you're a troll not worth eating, as you posses zero nutritional value. Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:19 PM (x3YFz) ________ Uhhh yeah, OK. I point out your hypothesis is pure bullshit and I'm a troll. You'd make a great MSNBC producer.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 12:21 PM (0LHZx)

356 328 I like Super-Sour-Tropical Ace the most. Very-Berry Ace is pretty good. Mouth-Full-of-Shit Ace is probably the worst. I like French-Ranch Ace, or as I like to call it, FRANCH ACE.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 12:21 PM (7ObY1)

357 I like French-Ranch Ace, ******** Great--I read that as-- "free range Ace."

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 12:23 PM (RJMhd)

358

The true believers of the messiah and cankles have their fingers in their ears and won't listen or consider any other opinion other than the ones they have already formed and feverishly hold on to.

  I am of a mind that the more outrageous these so called journalist bias is the better. The blatent bias will show people that can still reason how clownish and in the tank these outlets are.

Posted by: Cheri at February 11, 2014 12:23 PM (G+Wff)

359 But basic infrastructure like telephone lines should remain stuck in 1950's technology forever? WTF? ------------------ Yeah, no point in staying with something robust, with superior signal quality.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 12:23 PM (aDwsi)

360

I've bought Mexican Coke in the last six months that had real sugar.  Are we sure they changed? 

 

(The display said "el sabor de Mexico" and I wondered how Coke could possible taste Mexican, so I read the ingredients). 

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at February 11, 2014 12:23 PM (A0sHn)

361 Right, but when 35-64 is your big win, all your ads are for boner pills, testosterone supplements, and Rascal Scooters. Which tends to make watching the channel for any length of time annoying. That "I always heard about No-No on TV" chick is the one that drives me over the wall. Every. Fucking. Commercial. Break. She forces me to switch over to MSDNC till the commercial break is over.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 12:23 PM (7ObY1)

362 There have always been Hearsts and Yellow journalism but I don't believe there has ever been such a complete emulation of State Media as practiced in failed societies abroad. It is a grim milestone. Posted by: Daybrother at February 11, 2014 04:14 PM (VZ+vk) And it's why I keep saying that our primary goal ought to be the destruction of this one-sided media cartel. Obama is in power only because of this one party media.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 11, 2014 12:23 PM (bb5+k)

363

Kobe, tell me how my Ace tastes.

 

//Shaq

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 11, 2014 12:23 PM (CSqCa)

364 Why don't they make Coke Throwback? HFCS sucks.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 12:24 PM (6bMeY)

365 So Ace is like nougat? Not interested.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2014 12:24 PM (oFCZn)

366 Remember when they tried the new Sour Cream and Onion Ace. Yeah that wasn't popular.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk


I like the little guy on the package with the burro on his back.

Beans-and-Prawns Ace was just weird.

Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 12:24 PM (MNq6o)

367 342 I'vebought Mexican Coke in the last six months that had real sugar. The dealers around here call that kind of coke "gank."

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 12:24 PM (7ObY1)

368 342 Azucar on the label?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 12:25 PM (6bMeY)

369 What is really shocking is the penetration of fiber optic in this country is behind some third world countries. We're Rome, with the barbarians at the gate, thinking we're still great. Posted by: Regular Moron at February 11, 2014 04:14 PM (CnA9 Not really fair. Where no system exists at all, it makes a lot of sense to put in fiber. When we already have existing backbones of copper and cable systems, it is non sensible to just throw them away. Also this is a rather large country, so the task is larger than it would be in some of the third world countries.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 11, 2014 12:25 PM (bb5+k)

370 What about the Purple Drank Ace.  Fo Shizzle

Posted by: Heywood Jablowme at February 11, 2014 12:26 PM (jsWA8)

371 348 Remember when they tried the new Sour Cream and Onion Ace. Yeah that wasn't popular. Sour Cream and Onion Ace had half the sugar, but still had a higher BRIX index, thanks to the high-fructose corn syrup.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at February 11, 2014 12:26 PM (7ObY1)

372 Obama is in power only because of this one party media. Posted by: D-Lamp ------------------- That. But what to DO about it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 12:26 PM (aDwsi)

373 Olestra Ace sucked bad. I had the shits for a week.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2014 12:27 PM (oFCZn)

374 The irony is that the free shit army are the slaves. Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 04:15 PM (x3YFz) No, they're the crop. The harvest is votes for Democrats. *WE* are the slaves.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 11, 2014 12:27 PM (bb5+k)

375 We should all strive for more penetration.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 11, 2014 12:27 PM (CSqCa)

376
Gluten Free Ace..... just...... sucks.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 11, 2014 12:27 PM (nELVU)

377 I'vebought Mexican Coke in the last six months that had real sugar. Are we sure they changed?

(The display said "el sabor de Mexico" and I wondered how Coke could possible taste Mexican, so I read the ingredients). Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch


Mexican bottlers now make Coke with high fructose corn syrup and continue to make some with sugar.

Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 12:27 PM (MNq6o)

378 MSNBC is part of the administration; the unofficial Ministers of Truth.

They don't have good ratings, but that's not really the point.

They flood the zone with the latest "scandal" (OMG Huckabee hates women!) - repeating it over, discussing it endlessly among their panels.
This gets other news orgs talking about it.
Then the NBC affiliated comedians kick in, an SNL skit or a Fallon joke.
Then MSNBC replays the skits/jokes over and over again.

This crowds out other stories and imprints the proper message on the LIV's mind: Republicans evil, Democrats good, Obama is infallible and the victim of rightwing "hate."

Posted by: Lizzy at February 11, 2014 12:27 PM (POpqt)

379 Salt free Ace.

Posted by: tasker at February 11, 2014 12:27 PM (RJMhd)

380 If your dealer is putting sugar in your coke, change dealers.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 11, 2014 12:27 PM (38LLM)

381 I'm so sick of the right wing shit. From now on I will only refer to certain people and media outlets as left wing and or marxist. And Mitchell is now Red Andrea.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 11, 2014 12:28 PM (NRYdU)

382 Salt free Ace. Posted by: tasker --------------------- Noooooooo! I like my Ace salty.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 12:29 PM (aDwsi)

383


>>>No, they're the crop. The harvest is votes for Democrats.

 

Yup. Politicians are Skull Farmers, all of 'em. So are the MSM

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 12:30 PM (3ZtZW)

384 Nood

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 11, 2014 12:30 PM (oFCZn)

385 Not really fair. Where no system exists at all, it makes a lot of sense to put in fiber. When we already have existing backbones of copper and cable systems, it is non sensible to just throw them away. Also this is a rather large country, so the task is larger than it would be in some of the third world countries. Posted by: D-Lamp at February 11, 2014 04:25 PM (bb5+k) _____________ BINGO!! The population density in the US is 80/sq mile. Compare that to S. Korea or Japan which are around 650/sq mile. Makes it a lot more cost effective to get everyone connected in small densely populated countries like that.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 12:30 PM (0LHZx)

386 364 ... The saltier the better !!!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 11, 2014 12:30 PM (CSqCa)

387

>>>and I wondered how Coke could possible taste Mexican

 

Recycled bottles. Heh.

Posted by: Bigby's Jazz Hands at February 11, 2014 12:30 PM (3ZtZW)

388 Uhhh yeah, OK. I point out your hypothesis is pure bullshit and I'm a troll. You'd make a great MSNBC producer.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 11, 2014 04:21 PM (0LHZx)

You couldn't back up your BS.

All I said was I teach the 18-24 age group and they're increasingly moving to alternate sources from cable and satellite, and the numbers reflect that.

Got a problem with it?  Talk to them.


Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:30 PM (x3YFz)

389 That Limited Edition Downton Abby Oatmeal and Kippers Ace didn't last long.

Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 12:31 PM (MNq6o)

390 Iran’s “Moderate” President Appears At Rally Where Crowd Chants “Death To Israel,” Burn American Flags… This guy isn’t fooling anyone, except the Obama administration. Weasel Zippers: Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me again, just call me kerry

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 11, 2014 12:31 PM (t3UFN)

391 Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 04:21 PM (aDwsi)

Heh. Beck and co were reading off the menu for the French prez's visit this morning, poking fun. The sooner our "betters" relearn the lesson that Europhile founders like Washington and Franklin learned the hard way—no matter what you do, how fancy you make things, Europeans will never accept you as a cultural equal, so be proudly American instead—the better. Sadly they will never learn this. But at least the foods all came from American places.

Posted by: LizLem at February 11, 2014 12:31 PM (BF+2f)

392 Obama is in power only because of this one party media. Posted by: D-Lamp ------------------- That. But what to DO about it. Posted by: Mike Hammer Got your back, Jack!

Posted by: The Burning Times at February 11, 2014 12:31 PM (S0eIZ)

393 I had all the 'robustness' I could handle with Comcast. I'd have to call some center in India to have someone send current up the line to try to dry out some piece of equipment. Or wait a week for it to happen naturally. Meanwhile, no television. Internet sporadic at best. I've had FIOS 24/7 a week for two years. It is rock solid. Not one issue. Except when a tree crashed to the ground on Wednesday and one single wire out of a 12 wire bundle broke.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at February 11, 2014 12:32 PM (CnA98)

394 Is downtown Abbey any good? The one I watched sucked. All of that Albion Apartheid Bullshit class system.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 11, 2014 12:33 PM (6bMeY)

395 >> I like my Ace salty. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 04:29 PM (aDwsi) You two need a moment?

Posted by: Chef at February 11, 2014 12:34 PM (LWu6U)

396 Clamato ace.  

Posted by: polynikes at February 11, 2014 12:34 PM (m2CN7)

397 Is downtown Abbey any good? The one I watched sucked. All of that Albion Apartheid Bullshit class system. Posted by: Boss Moss

I liked the season or two we watched.  The main rich guy is the good guy.  The old pal from the army is another good guy.  The two worst people are working "downstairs".  It doesn't break along current stereotypes.

Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 12:36 PM (MNq6o)

398 That. But what to DO about it. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 11, 2014 04:26 PM (aDwsi) We attack their licenses, their advertisers, their business plan, their employees, and support alternatives such as Pajama media and the Blaze. We use whatever levers of government power we can bring to bear on them. We use whatever levers of financial power we can bring to bear on them. We mock them endlessly, and assert they are horribly biased as a given. We repeat such claims at every opportunity to get on the air. We don't buy American movies. (I advocate pie-racy for those who can do so without getting caught. Intellectual property rights? Fuck them. I'll respect their rights when they respect mine and let my side get some messages in on their propaganda disguised as movies.) Don't go to American made movies. Starve the Movie\Propaganda industry. There are other things, but nothing so satisfying as dropping an atomic bomb on them or lining them up against the wall. I wish we had a better hammer to hit them with.

Posted by: D-Lamp at February 11, 2014 12:36 PM (bb5+k)

399 I figured he was buggin over the ten year thing, (ten years of trying to keep commenters from running in the halls and chewing bubble gum in class) but when some joker put an Abby road post in the sidebar I got suspicious. Has this been discussed anywhere? Or maybe it was discussed on one of those "self destruct after 100 comments" posts that i missed?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 11, 2014 12:38 PM (LWu6U)

400 378 Clamato ace.

Posted by: polynikes at February 11, 2014 04:34 PM (m2CN7)

I read that "Clam Toe"

Good lord this blog has corrupted my mind.

Posted by: tangonine at February 11, 2014 12:41 PM (x3YFz)

401 Obama is in power only because of this one party media. Posted by: D-Lamp ------------ This is certainly true and there were hundreds of millions spent actually creating and funding new media outlets and programs to fund "msm" journalists to paint Bush as the stupidest man alive long before Barack was picked. Remember the Soros funded 'grant' program to place 'journalists' in PBS and commercial stations? Remember the nets bringing their families to the Obama campaign events? It is disgraceful. I remember listening to the Russian news service which sounded like a cartoon of a post-Soviet State media and then watching the BBC and knowing virtually everything they said was also a lie and then finding out the BBC had sent campaign 'advisors' to work for Bill Clinton's and Al Gore's campaign staff. Imagine if Fox sent reporters and managers to work on a British PM campaign. I'm reminded that during the Serb War Clinton started targeting TV and Newspaper offices in bombing runs. He knew exactly what he was doing and why.

Posted by: Daybrother at February 11, 2014 12:41 PM (Gz3bH)

402 27 Could someone please put me some f'ing knowledge... what was that "say my name" part a clip from? Some movie I guess?

Posted by: mr_jack at February 11, 2014 03:10 PM (TMG3G)


It's a Destiny's Child song!


Posted by: Slowpoke at February 11, 2014 12:43 PM (jjaLl)

403 It used to be all Bacon Ace all the time. Now its Cauliflower Ace. I'd settle for Garlic Cheese Bread Ace.

Posted by: Iblis at February 11, 2014 12:45 PM (9221z)

404

I know she's married and has a couple of kids but I have a real case of the hots for Harris Faulkner.  Respectfully so, since I wouldn't want to offend her husband.  Totally respectfully.  Completely.

 

She is a fantastic FNC news broadcaster and I cannot understand why they put Shep on when they could put Harris on instead. 

Posted by: MTF at February 11, 2014 12:56 PM (B5y+v)

405 Two reasons why yooro countries have outstanding wireless services:

1) Wait months/years for the government monopolized phone service to install your copper land line

2) Once said copper land line is installed, a) crap service  b) the gov taxes the heck out of it.

Posted by: mrp at February 11, 2014 01:28 PM (JBggj)

406 270 Cable cutting is all the rage.

I was out in the street yesterday with the Verizon FIOS crew while they performed microsurgery on a broken fiber optic line with a suitcase filled with stuff out of a James Bond movie. Cool stuff. But when I mentioned cable cutting to one of the crew him he stiffened. He claimed that the numbers were BS; in Verizon's case they count someone who drops the traditional copper wire as gone. In most cases they then go to fiber optic.

So like just about everything else in life, I don't know who to believe.

Posted by: Regular Moron at February 11, 2014 04:04 PM (CnA9


Our cable was out for part of the day. Ruined my morning tea and I was stompy/pouty. I did use a laptop hooked to husband's phone by some type of magic. Cable then played with me a few more times and has stayed on. I have to admit I was more productive. Now I wonder if it was this trend, as it is not out very often.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Duchess of Something at February 11, 2014 01:33 PM (baL2B)

407 While Hilary Clinton would be a magnificent President, and was the power behind the throne for Bill Clinton's years, I do wonder if she is the best choice to carry social and economic justice forward in an era of new environmental challenges.

I'll have to have a glass of locally grown sustainable organic free-trade wine and think about this.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 11, 2014 01:57 PM (UWbv/)

408 Posted by: Dang at February 11, 2014 04:36 PM (MNq6o)

Washington Post has the 8 things Downton can teach us about economics; worth a look.

Posted by: LizLem at February 11, 2014 03:01 PM (BF+2f)

409 Bill Ayer's friend, and boss man at MSNBC Bill Gates doesn't care about ratings or money.

Posted by: burt at February 11, 2014 05:23 PM (1+kJ5)

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