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March 23, 2014

NASCAR: Race Day In Fontana - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse]
— Open Blogger

Today the Sprint Cup Series take it to the two-mile track at Fontana, California for the Auto Club 400.

A newby fan of racing I'm looking forward to seeing a race on a longer track. My initial impression is that I don't care as much for the short tracks, such as Bristol.

Speaking of Bristol, last week's race was another race against the weather with the checkered flag eventually waving Carl Edwards (Roush Fenway team) in as the winner. The race ended under the caution light, an accidental occurrence due to someone bumping into the switch in the flagstand.

I wish I had more for you but I missed most of the race because.... Neil Simon.

Here's where the chase stands thus far. If anyone would like to explain how these scores are calculated, that would be terrific because, frankly, I can't figure it out.

Here's a cute thang for the Moronettes:

And for the Morons, here's Dale Jr.'s main squeeze, Amy Reimann:

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1 A newby fan of racing I'm looking forward to seeing a race on a longer track. My initial impression is that I don't care as much for the short tracks, such as Bristol.

Wait until you car sick watching Watkins Glen.

Don't bother figuring out how Chase points are calculated because the formula will be changed next year.

Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 23, 2014 10:58 AM (Gk3SS)

2 Mmm... elbows!

And anyone but Kyle Busch.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2014 11:02 AM (MgUht)

3 Fucking dumbasses on Fox have had someone too close to an open mic since they presented the colors. You could hear him talking throughout.

Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2014 11:03 AM (LI48c)

4 Yay! Blue Angels!

Oh hai Joey Logano, you're looking mighty fine, mmmmmhmmmm.

Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 23, 2014 11:03 AM (Gk3SS)

5 I don't find the races particularly interesting to watch (except of course the crashes), but the technology, both for speed and for safety, is unbelievable. I gobble up the occasional articles about that stuff.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (anti-Irish Bigot) at March 23, 2014 11:04 AM (QFxY5)

6 my god...it's full of bewb.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at March 23, 2014 11:07 AM (5ikDv)

7 The bff calls it Fontucky. And, having been there, you do kinda feel like you've left California far behind on race day.

Don't taze me but, Go Shockers!!!! Starting now.

Posted by: Peaches at March 23, 2014 11:07 AM (8lmkt)

8 Good grief, the Muppets are everywhere!

Posted by: Vendette at March 23, 2014 11:08 AM (8pqpP)

9 I don't find the races particularly interesting to watch (except of course the crashes), but the technology, both for speed and for safety, is unbelievable. I gobble up the occasional articles about that stuff. *** The safety tech really shined a couple of weeks ago when Danica Patrick ran nose-first into the wall at almost 200 mph. It looked like the race that killed Dale Sr. yet she walked away unharmed.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:09 AM (DmNpO)

10 Most Nascar fans love the short tracks and wish Nascar would go back to having more short track racing. Go watch a race at Michigan sometime and you'll understand why. Half of that race takes place with no one passing and the cars completely strung out. Like sitting next to a turnpike and watching the traffic roll by. Short tracks offer much more passing, bumping, etc. and getting in and out of pits can be an issue.

Posted by: Jen at March 23, 2014 11:09 AM (mynOu)

11 Eff the Muppets. Henson was liberal ass jack.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 11:09 AM (Q8vlx)

12 I've been to that complex for both nascar and for the drag's. Nice complex even though it's in a shithole city. I like joey logano, it's time for a breakout win for him. Seems he has been running up front a lot. Good young kid.

Posted by: oc joe at March 23, 2014 11:11 AM (hqVUe)

13 I actually passed on getting free tickets. (Heretic!) But I went to the Royal Purple race last year at the track, and learned I'm just not cut out for roundy-rounds. I tend to like short bursts of activity with lots of time I don't have to pay attention in between. Football and drag-racing are my cup of tea.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at March 23, 2014 11:12 AM (Em6d4)

14 I much prefer NHRA nitro cars. Leaving for Vegas Wednesday, will spend three days at the track.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 11:14 AM (Q8vlx)

15 Nascar sucks.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2014 11:14 AM (P9VJ9)

16 Most Nascar fans love the short tracks and wish Nascar would go back to having more short track racing. Go watch a race at Michigan sometime and you'll understand why. Half of that race takes place with no one passing and the cars completely strung out. Like sitting next to a turnpike and watching the traffic roll by. Short tracks offer much more passing, bumping, etc. and getting in and out of pits can be an issue. *** I'd venture a guess that, in person, I'd like the short tracks better. For tv coverage, I prefer the longer tracks.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:14 AM (DmNpO)

17 Yesterday's Nationwide race had a great ending. Worth watching the last 10 laps or so as Kyle Larson, the wunderkind, held off Kyle Busch and Keven Harvick for the win.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 11:16 AM (ZPrif)

18 CA track was Brian's idea for a national market. It has NEVER sold out. It sucks and the teams hate dragging all their shit out there. That is all.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 23, 2014 11:16 AM (0FSuD)

19
Amy Reimann is running about 12 psi, with little chance of a blowout.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 23, 2014 11:17 AM (nQjHM)

20 BOIINNNNNNNNG!!!

Posted by: Beavis at March 23, 2014 11:19 AM (5tpzF)

21 NDH, at a middle distance track like Atlanta or a big track like Daytona is the only way to appreciate the top speeds in person. Hauling ass needs to be seen in person (just don't forget the earplugs).

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 11:19 AM (dQs1o)

22 This track looks really wide.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:19 AM (DmNpO)

23 Hamlin had to be taken to the hospital. New format means drivers can miss races. In the past he'd have started, run a few laps, then headed to the hospital -- all just to stay in the points race.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 11:19 AM (ZPrif)

24 So, Dale Jr. goes out on dates, his girl packs a pair of 38's and Dale packs a pair of 45's to protect 'em

h\t Benny Hill

Posted by: fred zeppelin at March 23, 2014 11:20 AM (QRFrB)

25 Hamlin had to be taken to the hospital.
New format means drivers can miss races. In the past he'd have started, run a few laps, then headed to the hospital -- all just to stay in the points race. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 03:19 PM (ZPrif)

Did they say what it is?

Posted by: alexthechick - come for the Global Warming stay for the SMOD at March 23, 2014 11:20 AM (Gk3SS)

26 Cali sold out today. Of course, that's because they tore down 30k seats in the off-season. But first sellout in California in forever.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 11:20 AM (ZPrif)

27 NDH, at a middle distance track like Atlanta or a big track like Daytona is the only way to appreciate the top speeds in person. Hauling ass needs to be seen in person (just don't forget the earplugs). *** My uncle tok me to a race at Dayton when I was a little girl and I HATED it. The noise was just one reason. I think that's why I never cared for racing until recently.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:20 AM (DmNpO)

28 FoxSports reported it's a severe sinus infection that was affecting his vision.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 11:21 AM (ZPrif)

29 damn typos

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:21 AM (DmNpO)

30
Amy is probably very sore after a Dale, Jr. win, especially with him riding the rail and always turning left.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at March 23, 2014 11:22 AM (nQjHM)

31 NDH, a long race is no place for a young child especially without ear protection. A few could handle the length of the race but kids are like Democrats, short attention spans and easily distracted by squirrels.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 11:23 AM (dQs1o)

32 Meh, the yuppies took over in the early 2000's and I haven't cared to go back to the track since. Its a lot safer and cheaper to watch from the comfort of home. TFG and the high price of gas made it double plus unfun as well as having half the people you used to go to the races with dying off, well, I just sit at home or do other things. I started going to anything nearby back in the 80's, it ain't racing to me any more.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at March 23, 2014 11:23 AM (baiNQ)

33 26 Cali sold out today. Of course, that's because they tore down 30k seats in the off-season. But first sellout in California in forever. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 03:20 PM (ZPrif) Ha Ha. I don't believe a word of it. Brain use to GIVE away tickets to get people to show up. Each race sponsor got 1,000's of tickets and still no one showed up. The place sucks.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 23, 2014 11:24 AM (0FSuD)

34 With races in LA, Vegas and 2 in Phoenix -- the Southwest is pretty well covered for Nascar fans. The Nascar Mexico series races in Phoenix, too.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 11:25 AM (ZPrif)

35 So, Dale Jr. goes out on dates, his girl packs a pair of 38's and Dale packs a pair of 45's to protect 'em h\t Benny Hill Posted by: fred zeppelin at March 23, 2014 03:20 PM (QRFrB) That reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw on Legal Insurrection: "I carry feminine protection: .22 for light days, .45 for heavy days."

Posted by: Vendette at March 23, 2014 11:27 AM (8pqpP)

36 The safety tech really shined a couple of weeks ago when Danica Patrick ran nose-first into the wall at almost 200 mph. It looked like the race that killed Dale Sr. yet she walked away unharmed. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 03:09 PM (DmNpO) He would have walked away if he wasn't so old skool and refused to wear the (now mandatory, because of him) HANS device.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at March 23, 2014 11:28 AM (Nk6GS)

37 NDH, a long race is no place for a young child especially without ear protection. A few could handle the length of the race but kids are like Democrats, short attention spans and easily distracted by squirrels. *** I remember thinking he was taking me to a drag race, which I loved watching. Boy was I disappointed!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:29 AM (DmNpO)

38 He would have walked away if he wasn't so old skool and refused to wear the (now mandatory, because of him) HANS device. *** I know. It's just awful to know how differently his crash might have ended.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:30 AM (DmNpO)

39 Late Hamlin scratch screws up my fantasy team. .

Posted by: Mr_Fastbucks at March 23, 2014 11:33 AM (b67KU)

40 Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at March 23, 2014 03:28 PM (Nk6GS) You are correct. Watching replays of that wreck, it doesn't look that bad. A lot more violent wrecks they walk away from.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 11:33 AM (dQs1o)

41 All the crowd shots so far are showing a packed crowd. Looks like a legit sellout.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 11:34 AM (ZPrif)

42 Which photo features implants?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2014 11:35 AM (aDwsi)

43 You are correct. Watching replays of that wreck, it doesn't look that bad. A lot more violent wrecks they walk away from. *** If I understand it, the violent crashes with flips and pieces flying off the car help to disperse the energy. In a crash like Sr.'s, and Danica's, all the energy is absorbed by the car and the driver. They had a camera in Danica's car during the race and, despite the optical illusion created by all the cars racing at top speed which makes the crash look like it's in slow motion, it's one helluva a violent hit. You could actually see the device hold her in place.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:37 AM (DmNpO)

44 He would have walked away if he wasn't so old skool and refused to wear the (now mandatory, because of him) HANS device. *** I know. It's just awful to know how differently his crash might have ended. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 03:30 PM Husband was attending Daytona when Dale Sr. was killed. He said the crash caused a boom that was deafening. Remember,there were no "safer barriers" back then , rather they were cement block walls. Additionally, Earnhardt not only didn't have a Hans Device, but also insisted on an open face helmet. My understanding was his face was really busted up from hitting the steering wheel.

Posted by: Jen at March 23, 2014 11:38 AM (mynOu)

45 41 All the crowd shots so far are showing a packed crowd. Looks like a legit sellout. Looks like a full place, a sellout requires someone to buy something. Filling seats with fans with free tickets is not a sell out. Brain doesn't give a shit about the fans, it's the TV money!!

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 23, 2014 11:39 AM (0FSuD)

46 What the effity-eff is wrong with her hepatitis-hued boobs?

Posted by: Gem at March 23, 2014 11:40 AM (zw+pb)

47 Prediction: A lot of left turns.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2014 11:40 AM (aDwsi)

48 Final lap of MotoGP on FoxSports 1. Good race.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 11:41 AM (ZPrif)

49 What the effity-eff is wrong with her hepatitis-hued boobs? *** It's the lighting. Her face and the shadows from her head show the difference. Awful, orangeish lighting.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:42 AM (DmNpO)

50 There were reports never confirmem, that Sr loosened or had his belts unhooked.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 11:43 AM (Q8vlx)

51 Ms Reimann doesn't need airbags

Posted by: kbdabear at March 23, 2014 11:43 AM (aTXUx)

52 47 Prediction: A lot of left turns. Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2014 03:40 PM (aDwsi) And snow for you Tuesday! ha ha.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 23, 2014 11:45 AM (0FSuD)

53
Prediction: A lot of left turns.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at March 23, 2014 03:40 PM (aDwsi)

4 Days, 6 Hours, 13 minutes till the:

Petronas Malaysia Grand Prix

Posted by: Joe Biden at March 23, 2014 11:45 AM (mETGQ)

54 There were reports never confirmem, that Sr loosened or had his belts unhooked. *** Ugh, but it doesn't really seem that hard to believe because, IIRC, his argument against wearing the head restraint was that it restricted his movement.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:46 AM (DmNpO)

55 A weird thing about Fontana -- it was once the Slovenian capital of California. Why the hell people from an Alpine region settled in an Inland Empire dirtbowl confounds me.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at March 23, 2014 11:46 AM (Em6d4)

56 Woo Hoo, NASCAR! Add a gun thread later and it'll be a perfect Sunday...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 23, 2014 11:47 AM (4DCSq)

57 4 Days, 6 Hours, 13 minutes till the: Petronas Malaysia Grand Prix *** I'm taking bets on how many times MH370 will be mentioned.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:47 AM (DmNpO)

58 4 Days, 6 Hours, 13 minutes till the:
Petronas Malaysia Grand Prix

Whats the over/under on cars disappearing during the race?

Posted by: johnd01 at March 23, 2014 11:47 AM (r0+v0)

59 They could easily get 4, perhaps even 5 wide, on that track.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:48 AM (DmNpO)

60 55 A weird thing about Fontana -- it was once the Slovenian capital of California. Why the hell people from an Alpine region settled in an Inland Empire dirtbowl confounds me. Posted by: Sister Sestina at March 23, 2014 03:46 PM (Em6d4) If it wasn't for L.A., nothing east of the 605 would have a reason to be there

Posted by: kbdabear at March 23, 2014 11:48 AM (aTXUx)

61 NDH He really was old school. My love for nascar pretty much died when he did. It would be a different sport were Sr still around I'm sure of that.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 11:48 AM (Q8vlx)

62 And the super hot Miss Sprint Cup quit a few days ago. Former Miss Vermont Brooke Werner.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 11:49 AM (ZPrif)

63
Whats the over/under on cars disappearing during the race?
Posted by: johnd01 at March 23, 2014 03:47 PM (r0+v0)

The drivers will cut of communication and drive in different directions.

Posted by: YIKES! at March 23, 2014 11:51 AM (mETGQ)

64
If it wasn't for ~~L.A.,~~ water nothing east of the 605 would have a reason to be there

Posted by: kbdabear at March 23, 2014 03:48 PM (aTXUx)

Posted by: YIKES! at March 23, 2014 11:52 AM (mETGQ)

65 Jr. In the wall. Damnit!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 11:55 AM (ojnk6)

66 65 Ditto

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 11:56 AM (Q8vlx)

67 I love that long-view of pit row.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 11:56 AM (DmNpO)

68 I know nothing about NASCAR and care less, but I did happen to see the Earnhardt crash live on TV. I know that all human life is precious and his family loved him and his dogs probably miss him. But wasn't he just an asshole who crashed while indulging in assholery?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 23, 2014 11:56 AM (1xUj/)

69 My dad use to take me and my brother to Road America in Wisconsin. It was back in the late 70s to mid 80s for SCCA and IMSA races . The loud noise was my favorite part. What? J/k! I took my future wife there for a CART (indy car) race back in '95 or so. She was mad at me since she was expecting to sit in a grandstand all day. Instead we were hiking through the woods to find different view points, and she was wearing heels. Oops. Last time I was there was in '99 for the vintage races.

Posted by: Chris M at March 23, 2014 11:57 AM (4lyMJ)

70 Wow, way to be a troll, asshole.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 11:57 AM (ZPrif)

71 68 Well, it ain't like he was an accountant. At that time, drivers put their life on the line.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 11:57 AM (ojnk6)

72 I thought Fontana was a soft drink.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 23, 2014 11:58 AM (bitz6)

73 Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 23, 2014 03:56 PM (1xUj/) Careful, the Earnhart fanboys will get pissed. You are essentially correct nevertheless.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 11:58 AM (dQs1o)

74 McNabb in the 48 pit. Expect Johnson to finish 43rd. Lulz.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2014 11:58 AM (MgUht)

75 There was a day when the "Fence Bunnies" would come over any time. Oh I am old. If this was a family blog, the stories I could tell. Being Miss Winston was a good gig too. Jeff Gordon's first wife was a hot little Miss Winston.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 23, 2014 11:59 AM (0FSuD)

76 68 Earnhardt was actually a pretty good guy. The Busch brothers are true assholes. Kyle is still banned at the short track in Vegas for being an asshole.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 11:59 AM (Q8vlx)

77 That didn't take long.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 11:59 AM (dQs1o)

78 McNabb in the 48 pit. Where is security?

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 23, 2014 12:00 PM (bitz6)

79 I'm rooting for Kurt Busch's pit crew.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2014 12:00 PM (ZshNr)

80 Wow, McNabb being a douche. Whowouldathunkit?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2014 12:00 PM (MgUht)

81 77 Smacking down troll like comments from a self admitted ignorant ass never takes long here.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:00 PM (ojnk6)

82 Careful, the Earnhart fanboys will get pissed. You are essentially correct nevertheless. Heh. Your prediction came true before you hit "send". He was the Intimidator and was being all intimidating and not trying to actually win the race when his intimidation went sideways. Fuck the fanboys.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 23, 2014 12:01 PM (1xUj/)

83 There's a special kind of vermin who feels the need to needlessly troll.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 12:01 PM (ZPrif)

84 There are no ties in OT, right?

Posted by: Donovan McNabb at March 23, 2014 12:01 PM (08jH8)

85 76 68 Earnhardt was actually a pretty good guy. No, he was a great guy, his second wife is a TOTAL BITCH. Still is. That's why Jr left DE for Hendricks.

Posted by: Nip Sip at March 23, 2014 12:01 PM (0FSuD)

86 82 Right back atcha, keyboard commando.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:03 PM (ojnk6)

87 Nip She sure as hell is. Ask Chip Ganassi how it feels.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:03 PM (Q8vlx)

88 And so it goes.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 12:03 PM (dQs1o)

89 Ah, we have two trolls. There's always more than one cockroach.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 12:05 PM (ZPrif)

90 He was the Intimidator and was being all intimidating and not trying to actually win the race when his intimidation went sideways. Fuck the fanboys. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 23, 2014 04:01 PM (1xUj/) IIRC, he was running interference for Jr when it happened. I saw it live, but haven't watched any replays since.

Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at March 23, 2014 12:05 PM (Nk6GS)

91 And so it goes... off screen and away.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:05 PM (ojnk6)

92 I am presently enjoying one of my favorite mdern conveniences: Curbside-to-Go service. Pull up to the curb and they bring the food out to ya. You don't even have to get dressed.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 12:06 PM (DmNpO)

93 NDH Driving nude? That's hot.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:06 PM (Q8vlx)

94 ah, the Dale Sr. Suicide...

Given the special aero attachments on the roof that year, and the handling problems in the Duels, I knew he was going to kill himself about 15 laps before if happend given the blocking he was doing for Michael Waltrip and Dale Jr. ---

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:07 PM (kFxpe)

95 Carl Edwards the Eddie Haskell of nascar.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:08 PM (Q8vlx)

96 Sports enmity is a legit thing, but reflexively hating the opponent is sub-tarded. Waiting to find Nick Searcy off FB to chat with him about the concept.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2014 12:09 PM (ZshNr)

97 95 Wouldn't AJ Allmandinger fit that description better, Chavez?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:10 PM (ojnk6)

98 Saw a piece friday that NASCAR is going to cut about 75-100 hp from next year's engine package

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:11 PM (kFxpe)

99 Could be, I never thought of that.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:11 PM (Q8vlx)

100 Saw a piece friday that NASCAR is going to cut about 75-100 hp from next year's engine package *** Why?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 12:12 PM (DmNpO)

101 98 That sounds just dumb enough for Brian France to be all for it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:12 PM (ojnk6)

102 NDH Driving nude? That's hot. *** Footy pajamas

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 12:13 PM (DmNpO)

103 I thought Keselowski was Eddie Haskell.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2014 12:13 PM (ZshNr)

104 I enjoy the Nascar threads, but not gonna deal with the vermin trolls today. I'm out.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at March 23, 2014 12:13 PM (ZPrif)

105 98 Wait till they start running Prii.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 23, 2014 12:13 PM (bitz6)

106 103 There are many choices in today's newer, gentler NASCAR.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:14 PM (ojnk6)

107 What, no Danica pic for the Morons?

Posted by: TXMarko at March 23, 2014 12:15 PM (PW0HZ)

108 We're all Eddie Haskell now.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2014 12:15 PM (ZshNr)

109 NDH Selling insurance now?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:15 PM (Q8vlx)

110 Last year I read a nice piece about the Ontario Motor Speedway which was a duplicate of Indy. Torn down in 1980 when Chevron bought the track in bankruptcy for $10 million while the underlying raw land value was $120 million.

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:17 PM (kFxpe)

111 I enjoy the Nascar threads, but not gonna deal with the vermin trolls today. I'm out. *** Don't go. Just ignore it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 12:17 PM (DmNpO)

112 NDH Selling insurance now? *** Huh?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 12:18 PM (DmNpO)

113 107 Jr.'s squeeze does just fine as a sub for Danica elbows, IMO.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:18 PM (ojnk6)

114 NDH Exactly eff the trolls. I'm surprised they took time off from their jock sniifing duties.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:19 PM (Q8vlx)

115 Why lower HP?

They are breaking track records every week... Thespeeds being generated by 850+ hp is probably too much for the tires - there have been some wear problems last year and the first few weeks this year.

Won't affect the superspeedways, as they run restrictor plates there anyway

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:20 PM (kFxpe)

116 NDH Like the footie pj guy for Ocare. Remember?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:20 PM (Q8vlx)

117 So what's the deal, tires only lasting about 20 laps?

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 12:21 PM (dQs1o)

118 What, no Danica pic for the Morons? *** http://bit.ly/OLoCeD

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 12:21 PM (DmNpO)

119 I'm out, too, for other reasons. But I have a parting message for Flatbush Joe. I have never pulled an ad hominem in the sacred hordespace. I address arguments put forth and not the individuals expressing them. I am not a troll. I have an opinion you disagree with. I saw Dale Sr.'s final race, where he was devoting himself to keeping other people from challenging his guys at racing the race, and doing that killed him. That's what I saw as a very amateur observer, and I commented on what I think I saw. That's not trolling. It may be ignorant of NASCAR norms and nuance, it may be completely wrong. I don't know, I'm a non-NASCAR guy who is made out of pixels. But you, sir, are a fucktard.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at March 23, 2014 12:21 PM (1xUj/)

120 NDH Like the footie pj guy for Ocare. Remember? ** Ha! Dangit! I'm getting slow in my old age!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 12:22 PM (DmNpO)

121 115 I would argue that's a Goodyear problem, not a HP problem, but what do I know?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:22 PM (ojnk6)

122 Tire wear... Jr just blew his RT front

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:23 PM (kFxpe)

123 If they're breaking lap records, then they figure they can lose some speed and save tire problems... not good for racing or advertising.

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:25 PM (kFxpe)

124 119 That's an interesting....apology.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:25 PM (ojnk6)

125 The track surface is getting wore out. The crewchiefs are tooagressive with their setups. A setup for tire issues. Probably running more camber than they were advised.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:26 PM (Q8vlx)

126 118 http://bit.ly/OLoCeD Le Sigh....

Posted by: TXMarko at March 23, 2014 12:28 PM (PW0HZ)

127 125 True, Goodyear can only suggest camber setups. The teams don't have to follow them. Good point.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:28 PM (ojnk6)

128 No wonder she can't drive.

Posted by: Boss Moss at March 23, 2014 12:29 PM (bitz6)

129 127 Thanks

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:29 PM (Q8vlx)

130 How did Jr. get up to 10th?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:32 PM (ojnk6)

131 Last year, Formula 1 had to crack down on teams doing the out-of-spec camber setups last. Really bad for your number one sponsor/supplier (tire manufacture) to get a black eye because the tires are blowing up because of improper setup... Also see too-low tire pressures for start of run in NASCAR...

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:32 PM (kFxpe)

132 88 back up to 10th. Letarte is a brilliant crew chief...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 23, 2014 12:33 PM (4DCSq)

133 shit, I forgot I'm 15-20 minutes behind because I paused the start of the race... need to catch up

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:33 PM (kFxpe)

134 132 Shame Letarte is going to TV after this season.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:33 PM (ojnk6)

135 Chris Myers really, really sucks

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:34 PM (kFxpe)

136 131 yup crewchiefs are always smarter than engineersand people whose only job is building specialized race tires.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:34 PM (Q8vlx)

137 131 Last year, Formula 1 had to crack down on teams doing the out-of-spec camber setups last. Really bad for your number one sponsor/supplier (tire manufacture) to get a black eye because the tires are blowing up because of improper setup... Also see too-low tire pressures for start of run in NASCAR...

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 04:32 PM (kFxpe)

After Goodyear's debacle at Indianapolis a few years back I don't think there's going to be much concern about this race being a black eye. They probably still have some negative views from that season.

Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2014 12:36 PM (LI48c)

138 I've been a big race face ever since 'Goggles Pisano'

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:37 PM (kFxpe)

139 Letarte is cool. chris Meyers isa network tool. Basically a parrot spouting someone elses intelligence and sound like an idiot doing it. Dipshit.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:37 PM (Q8vlx)

140 I used to be such a huge college basketball fan, but now I've got NASCAR on the main screen and NCAA's on secondary TV.

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:38 PM (kFxpe)

141 134 Yup! Time to bring back Tony Jr? Ahhhh!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 23, 2014 12:39 PM (4DCSq)

142 Isn't NCAA just streetball now? Haven't watched for years.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:39 PM (Q8vlx)

143 @137 F1 at Indianapolis? That wasn't Goodyear.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 12:40 PM (xq1UY)

144 134 I doubt he would be up for that. Where is Tony Jr. now, anyways?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:41 PM (ojnk6)

145 Stringer: wasn't that pirelli?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:41 PM (Q8vlx)

146 Guns and Games up.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 12:42 PM (dQs1o)

147 143 @137 F1 at Indianapolis? That wasn't Goodyear.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 04:40 PM (xq1UY)

NASCAR at Indianapolis.

Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2014 12:42 PM (LI48c)

148 Aric sounds a little upset.

Posted by: StrawMan at March 23, 2014 12:42 PM (AkRKI)

149 141 Sorry, 144 was to you.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:43 PM (ojnk6)

150 Yeah, ever since the 1-and-done era started, there's no reason to invest yourself in college basketball - the play is hap-hazard and the best young players won't be there next year.

Always liked college basketball more than college football, but the fact that most players have to stay 3 or 4 years to become physically mature enough for the NFL makes college football waaaay more interesting now.

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:43 PM (kFxpe)

151 Let me know when the weapon thread is up. Guns are for kids. Games too.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:43 PM (Q8vlx)

152 F1 had two tire manufactures at that time, a rarity in racing. I believe it was the Michelin's that had the problems.

Glad IRL is going to run the road course at Indy this year as well as the traditional 500

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:45 PM (kFxpe)

153 152 For a long time, both Goodyear andmHoosier were in NASCAR.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:47 PM (ojnk6)

154 153 Freaking tablet....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:48 PM (ojnk6)

155 >>>@137 F1 at Indianapolis? That wasn't Goodyear.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 04:40 PM (xq1UY) <<<

He's talking about the Brickyard 400 where they could only "race" like 10 laps at a time, have to throw a caution, then come in to change tires cause they were being shredded by the resurfaced track.

Posted by: remembers watching all of that SCOAMFian race at March 23, 2014 12:48 PM (08jH8)

156 @145 Michelin, in F1. Commenter was talking about the 400, though.

During my Big Year as a manager, my driver won an event so important that we obtained the right to buy a set of Goodyear custom race-shop tires. One failed as soon as it was put on, at road speed, and they were kind of oh-well about it. This is how you learn about the racing business. Some of the others are worse.

There were a few golden eras when makers of street tires were competing against each other for prestige in racing, and that prestige was worth plenty to them. Today, a league or formula has to kiss a lot of rubber just to get a supplier. And they fully intend to make money on the deal. That's what your other sponsors are for.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 12:51 PM (xq1UY)

157 149 Really don't know. Last I remember he was still at DEI in some capacity...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 23, 2014 12:51 PM (4DCSq)

158 He's talking about the Brickyard 400 where they could only "race" like
10 laps at a time, have to throw a caution, then come in to change tires
cause they were being shredded by the resurfaced track.

Posted by: remembers watching all of that SCOAMFian race at March 23, 2014 04:48 PM (08jH8

And several drivers were highly critical and outspoken about Goodyear for the rest of that season and the next.

Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2014 12:51 PM (LI48c)

159 Going back to the blog post, yeah, I like medium and long tracks on TV much better than short tracks like Bristol.

Posted by: Dave in St. Louis at March 23, 2014 12:52 PM (lG61b)

160 >>>And several drivers were highly critical and outspoken about Goodyear for the rest of that season and the next.<<<

Yup.

Posted by: Tony Stewart at March 23, 2014 12:52 PM (08jH8)

161 Racing, polilitics, same shit, just different asses to kiss if you want to get anywhere.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 12:54 PM (Q8vlx)

162 160 Y3p, Smoke was the most vocal by far, to the point that NASCAR had to have a chat with him about it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 12:55 PM (ojnk6)

163 Look up the 2005 US Grand Prix if you really want to see a tire maker self-destruct. If you didn't see it before, you won't believe it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 12:55 PM (xq1UY)

164 Dude's dead, your opinion doesn't hurt anyone.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 23, 2014 12:56 PM (ZshNr)

165

163 Look up the 2005 US Grand Prix if you really want to see a tire maker self-destruct. If you didn't see it before, you won't believe it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 04:55 PM (xq1UY)

Was that the one where all but about three drivers pulled into the pits on the green flag and refused to race because of the tire?

Posted by: buzzion at March 23, 2014 12:57 PM (LI48c)

166 I really wish Nascar would run a fall event on the road course at Daytona...

I suspect the biggest issue is that they couldn't sell all those weekend RV passes.

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 12:58 PM (kFxpe)

167 buzzion... yup

3 or 4 teams (6/8 drivers) were on the tires that were good, all the Michelin? teams had to park

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 01:00 PM (kFxpe)

168 Looks like everyone's tires are failing.

Posted by: johnd01 at March 23, 2014 01:01 PM (r0+v0)

169 Tires good for 20 laps.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 01:02 PM (Q8vlx)

170 They were, in the pre-race coverage, speaking to how hot the track is there and that it could result in tire problems.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 01:06 PM (DmNpO)

171 Who has followed the gossip on tire formula changes for this year's tire? This is not a new surface, and it is not breaking up, and it's not too hot out. At that point you start looking at (1)who chose today's tire -- and there aren't that many choices, or (2)what was the tire maker expecting that worked out differently. Sometimes this really is the fault of the person or group presenting the specs, but it's also easy for the producer to blame onto car designers, team bosses etc.

Why it reminds me of the 1950 Belgian moto GP, it does.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 01:08 PM (xq1UY)

172 170 That's one they nailed. Shredded rubber all over Fontana.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 01:09 PM (ojnk6)

173 Kyle Larson is for real. Too bad he is not in a real car.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 01:10 PM (Q8vlx)

174 173 Who's Larson driving for?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 01:11 PM (ojnk6)

175 Ganassi Enough said.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 01:12 PM (Q8vlx)

176 175 Ah yee, Teresa's partner. Ganassi should have sruck with open wheel.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 01:13 PM (ojnk6)

177 The cars are bouncing like crazy. Is that just the track?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 01:13 PM (DmNpO)

178 177 The track and suspension setups.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 01:14 PM (ojnk6)

179 176 For sure. Ganassi dissolved his partnership with T. She basically disappeared.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 01:14 PM (Q8vlx)

180 177 Old asphalt NDH. Needs repaving but drivers prefer wore out asphalt. Less grip=racier.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 01:16 PM (dQs1o)

181 178 what suspension? Don't they just ride on the bumpstops now?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 01:16 PM (Q8vlx)

182 Usually not big on watching Fontana, but much more enjoyable with the Horde in the room.

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 01:20 PM (kFxpe)

183 Another flat.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 01:20 PM (dQs1o)

184 Garret sucks.

Posted by: NASCAR at March 23, 2014 01:23 PM (5UnZF)

185 Old asphalt NDH. Needs repaving but drivers prefer wore out asphalt. Less grip=racier. *** I don't how it can be racier when you have to pull into pit row and swap tires repeatedly.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at March 23, 2014 01:24 PM (DmNpO)

186 NDH it's only racier for a max of 10 laps.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 01:25 PM (Q8vlx)

187 @177 NDH, this is the part of NASCAR that is hard to explain. Those cars are very heavy. The 6-cylinder cars of the Nationwide series often beat them on speed, depending on the track, and consistently beat them on anything that has to do with braking, steering, and road-holding. On a road course they are absolute pigs. It's all the best set-up guys can do to keep them from embarrassing themselves out there.

But, it's where American racing is right now, and that's that. Because "stock car." It sure is a good test of drivers' abilities, because the cars do not want to do what they're being asked to.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 01:27 PM (xq1UY)

188 Stringer Not real sure, but I think Nationwide ditched 6 bangers years ago.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 01:29 PM (Q8vlx)

189 >>>Stringer Not real sure, but I think Nationwide ditched 6 bangers years ago.<<<

Yup.

Posted by: The Buschwhackers at March 23, 2014 01:32 PM (08jH8)

190 Meh, yeah, sure. I remember when Busch was the new name for that series. And of course will never forgive the "Sprint" thing, for the confusion it caused people who now will never see a sprint-car race.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 01:36 PM (xq1UY)

191 Stringer: word

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 01:37 PM (Q8vlx)

192 Stringer, nice point on the Sprint cars being heavyweights....

more weight, more power, less tire than even Aussie V8 supercars, the other heavyweight racing series...

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 01:39 PM (kFxpe)

193 Austin Dillon gotta ditch the coyboy hat.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 01:41 PM (Q8vlx)

194 Hugo, a name like Austin Dillion sounds like he should be staring in a black and white western

Posted by: phreshone at March 23, 2014 01:45 PM (kFxpe)

195 Makes for a very photogenic contest, though sometimes it's hard to define what the contest is. I don't want to say "luck." And other guesses get worse. But it's loud and colorful, you can tell which car is which, and people like that. As a showcase of engineering excellence, it's a little humbling -- but most people think that F1, for an example, has gone way too far in that. So here we are.

Anybody see an irony in "The Auto Club" having the name on the door, when it was the AAA that tried to outlaw motor racing?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 01:46 PM (xq1UY)

196 195 I did not know that about AAA.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 01:50 PM (ojnk6)

197 1955/56 was a critical year for sanctioning. AAA was the US arm of FIA, and many countries declared No Mas. Major factor in GM "quitting" racing, which in its turn had an effect on how race cars are developed. No racing in Switzerland since.

It wasn't just LeMans. The dirt track miles that year were a bloodbath, and there were Congressional inquiries. Any rate, AAA took the Nader/nanny POV, did what they could to spoil everything for everybody, and now every once in a while put their name on a car or a race just to make me throw a rock at them.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at March 23, 2014 02:04 PM (xq1UY)

198 Gotta have a tire or two, going down before the end.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 02:11 PM (ojnk6)

199 There they go...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 02:13 PM (ojnk6)

200 Tires blowing left and right.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 02:13 PM (dQs1o)

201 What a finish it's gonna be.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 02:15 PM (dQs1o)

202 Wierd that its been all left side tires.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 02:16 PM (ojnk6)

203 202 True. It's a reminder of Indy a few years ago, as mentioned earlier.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 02:18 PM (dQs1o)

204 I'm afraid Cassil is a sitting duck. Prolly top ten though, so good for him.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 02:22 PM (dQs1o)

205 204 That's if his tires make it 2 laps under green.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 02:23 PM (ojnk6)

206 I'm bettinwe will see one helluva wreck.they can't help themselves.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 02:23 PM (Q8vlx)

207 205 True. Thinking prolly gonna be some wrecking upcoming.

Posted by: weirdflunky at March 23, 2014 02:24 PM (dQs1o)

208 Come on SMOKE!

Posted by: The Buschwhackers at March 23, 2014 02:25 PM (08jH8)

209 Damn, Larson almost did. Kidmis going places.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 02:27 PM (ojnk6)

210 Fuck Kryle Busch. Assclown. Wasted a day only to see that fuckface win.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 02:27 PM (Q8vlx)

211 210 I don't like Kyle Busch either, but gotta admit the guy can drive.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 02:28 PM (ojnk6)

212 Kyle Larson is for real everybody

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 02:29 PM (Q8vlx)

213 212 Yep.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 02:30 PM (ojnk6)

214 Maybe he can drive, but he is a p.o.s. As a human being.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 02:31 PM (Q8vlx)

215 214 Not gonna argue with that assessment. Also, Nood DHS up.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 02:33 PM (ojnk6)

216 Fuck m &ms interstate batteries, and especially the two bit phony Joe Gibbs. Joe eats paste on off days.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 02:34 PM (Q8vlx)

217 Joe hides behind God. And then promotes assholes like Kryle. Fuck him.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 02:36 PM (Q8vlx)

218 217 Stop tiptoeing around and tell us about what's really on your mind, Chavez. :-)

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at March 23, 2014 02:39 PM (ojnk6)

219 I'm done. At least you know how I feel.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at March 23, 2014 02:40 PM (Q8vlx)

220 The kid, Larson, is fast making the JPM era of the 42 fade away. Oh, and I'll have to temper my Kyle invective. Never mind, the 18 has always been 'Shrubby' to me. ;-)

Posted by: Spun and Murky at March 23, 2014 02:50 PM (4DCSq)

221 I would loathe Kyle Busch less if DW didn't suck his c*ck the entire race, every race.

Posted by: Memories at March 23, 2014 03:06 PM (WQMwP)

222 Greetings from air; on the way to Korea for work. And for the Morons, here's Dale Jr.'s main squeeze, Amy Reimann: Those are some nice store-bought ~~titties~~ elbows.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at March 23, 2014 05:13 PM (Mk0pF)

223 I wonder what amount of money and or time you classless dicks criticizing Kyle Busch donate to charity like he and his wife Samantha do all year round.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at March 24, 2014 11:09 AM (dZGNV)

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