April 22, 2014

NBC Devotes 39 Paragraphs Reporting that Temp Workers Are At An All-Time High; Does Not Mention Obamacare Once As a Contributing Factor
— Ace

She almost mentions it, though.

If there's a prize for most words spent in Obamacare avoidance, NBC News's Martha C. White is definitely in the running.

White managed to burn through almost 40 paragraphs and nearly 1,600 words in a report carried at CNBC on the all-time record number of workers employed by temporary help services. But she somehow managed to completely avoid mentioning Obamacare, which used to be known as the Affordable Care Act until President Obama and his Health and Human Services regulators made 40 changes to the law originally passed by Congress, some of which directly contradict the original law's language. The closest she came was noting that using temps "lets companies avoid the cost of providing benefits like health insurance" — which has always been the case, except that health insurance is and will continue to be a lot more expensive, giving companies even more incentive to avoid adding to their own payrolls.

Obama pronounced that the "debate is over," and NBC scribbled it down furiously.

The media is definitely running their new reality-show TV arc called "Obamacare is Back!!!," and they're not going to let these little minor stories step on that very satisfying storyline.

Posted by: Ace at 10:31 AM | Comments (286)
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1 First!

Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 10:32 AM (GQ8sn)

2 I blame Bush!

Posted by: Geraldine Ferraro at April 22, 2014 10:32 AM (epWQP)

3 Oneth again?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 22, 2014 10:32 AM (0HooB)

4 Ok, I got in my "First!" quota for the day.  I'm done.

Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 10:32 AM (GQ8sn)

5 Shazbot. I'll summon the others.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 22, 2014 10:32 AM (0HooB)

6 I'll go get the others...

Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2014 10:32 AM (DrWcr)

7 Well Ace, when you look at it, we are all temp workers and then we die.  No one wants to suffer from "job lock".

Posted by: prescient11 at April 22, 2014 10:32 AM (tVTLU)

8 So, we shouldn't rely on NBC for the whole story?

Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2014 10:33 AM (u2a4R)

9 Cause and Effect: how does it work?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 22, 2014 10:33 AM (0HooB)

10 All the news that's fit to print.

Posted by: Iblis at April 22, 2014 10:33 AM (9221z)

11 If you like your full-time job, you can keep your full-time job.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 22, 2014 10:34 AM (DrWcr)

12 The messiah will be protected. Or at least hidden behind a shield of bullshit.

Posted by: joncelli at April 22, 2014 10:34 AM (RD7QR)

13 Koch Brothers!!!!!

Posted by: Y-not auditioning for NBC at April 22, 2014 10:34 AM (zDsvJ)

14 Those temp workers have the freedom to fly! And explore their dreams! Obamacare: The End of Wage Slavery! Arise masses, and cast off your jobs!

Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2014 10:34 AM (mizYg)

15 Who didn't see this coming raise your hand. Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:35 AM (x3YFz)

16 Employment is the chains enslaving the working man!

Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2014 10:35 AM (mizYg)

17 clearly this is due to all those billionaires refusing to pay their workers enough to buy the products they produce, creating surplus value which is not taxed at progressive rates. We should elect Elizabeth Warren president so she can fix the economy. Maybe Hillary, I haven't real Daily Kos lately, so I don't know what to think.

Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2014 10:35 AM (bJm7W)

18 Somebody else in NC want to help me parse the Senate primary ads? Harry Reid and Kay Hagan are apparently funding much of the pro-Brannon, anti-Tillis commercials. That's what I've heard, and that's what it sounds like. Do they think he's that weak?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 10:35 AM (ZshNr)

19 Yeah, I read that the other day and was all hmm *tap chin* why could people not want to take on actual employees, hmmm. It's a mystery that. To continue the actor discussion from below, MWR, here, I think this sums up HP books v. movies perfectly: http://bit.ly/1mAzyKl

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 22, 2014 10:35 AM (mf5HN)

20 Was this story before or after their hourly Chelsea update?

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 22, 2014 10:36 AM (9Bdcz)

21 Come on, having three jobs to make 40 hours is a lot more fun than doing it in one boring 8-hour session of work.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at April 22, 2014 10:36 AM (axaxF)

22
"Oh Oh ...... Ohohohohoh.

Dont say "Obamacare".   Or "recovery"...... or "employment", "assault weapons ban", "higher taxes", "summer of recovery", "Benghazi", 'Fast and Furious", "Lois Lerner" or "BLM"....

..... cause we're gonna WIIINNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!"


**moar Stupid Shit Debbie WassermanSchultz said.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 22, 2014 10:36 AM (nELVU)

23 We're ruled by upper class twits. Stuff a former citizen said.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 22, 2014 10:36 AM (u82oZ)

24 Employment is the chains enslaving the working man! Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2014 02:35 PM (mizYg) AYE! Free shit for the Working Party who refuses to work!

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:36 AM (x3YFz)

25 Mr. Maths will not be denied.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 10:36 AM (cB3Ay)

26 anyway, temp workers a in a better position to write a novel or start a business. Pelosi said so.

Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2014 10:37 AM (bJm7W)

27 Ace cuts his blogging hours back, neglects to mention ValuRite

Posted by: NBC News at April 22, 2014 10:37 AM (aTXUx)

28 Given the "success" of NBC's entertainment division these days, maybe the big spike in temps is because they don't want to pay full-time gigs for all the people who will get canned after 6 episodes.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 22, 2014 10:37 AM (APuJ7)

29 Well in the bright side, people who now have obamacare will not be taking time off from work since there are NO Docs near them who take oabamcare or speak english

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 22, 2014 10:39 AM (t3UFN)

30 Well, it looks like Obamacare has worked it's magic on ace, he's posting again, albeit with a nasty rash.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 22, 2014 10:39 AM (5UteM)

31 - Generation 'would you like fries with that?'

Posted by: BumperStickerist at April 22, 2014 10:39 AM (4CVLy)

32

Oh c'mon. Harry Reid told me all those negative O-care stories where made up Koch shit.

Posted by: Left Leaning Lemming at April 22, 2014 10:39 AM (znT2j)

33 NBC = Nuzzle Barack Continuously

Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2014 10:39 AM (mizYg)

34 Wasserman-Shultz: the epitome of natural selection gone awry.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:39 AM (x3YFz)

35 Why is NBC complaining about temp workers?   Don't they realize that these people have been rescued from the insufferable tedium of job lock, and are free to pursue their personal interests and dreams without having to worry about a regular income?  




To continue the actor discussion from below, MWR, here, I think this sums up HP books v. movies perfectly:

http://bit.ly/1mAzyKl

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 22, 2014 02:35 PM (mf5HN)



SO TRUE.   Though   I understand them trying to pretty out Harry and Hermione's hair disasters for the big screen.    M


y personal favorite is Bill Weasley, who   gets a face  full of hideous, disfiguring scars in the books, but onscreen has just one token scar on his cheek that doesn't sully up his (admittedly beautiful) face.  


Ah, Hollywood!


Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit [/s][/u][/i][/b] at April 22, 2014 10:39 AM (4df7R)

36 Some enterprising group of individuals could, if they chose to, gather some political capital by pointing out these things. They could even win a few elections. If they chose to.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 22, 2014 10:40 AM (0HooB)

37 No longer job-locked, I can now inter myself into the economic recovery cairn.

Posted by: Pushing "Up with Daisies!" at April 22, 2014 10:40 AM (wu/TK)

38 @36 Moar amnesty!!!!

Posted by: Y-not auditioning for the RNC at April 22, 2014 10:41 AM (zDsvJ)

39 Deal with it suckas!!

Posted by: Melissa Harris-Perry at April 22, 2014 10:41 AM (5UteM)

40 If NBC had tried to tie the record number of temps to Obamacare, it would be like equating the rise in prison population to the lowing of crime rates.

Posted by: jwest at April 22, 2014 10:41 AM (u2a4R)

41 In many ways, this is the story of Obama.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 22, 2014 10:41 AM (I8YZX)

42 Somebody else in NC want to help me parse the Senate primary ads? Harry Reid and Kay Hagan are apparently funding much of the pro-Brannon, anti-Tillis commercials. That's what I've heard, and that's what it sounds like. Do they think he's that weak?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 02:35 PM (ZshNr)

 

 

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You're  on Tillis' campaign staff and you're going to vote for him.  We get  it.  Please stop with the other horseshit.

 

I've listened to Brannon.  He's a solid conservative.  I'd vote for him. 

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 10:42 AM (trhm+)

43 Sort of like writing a book about the Titanic and never typing the word "iceberg".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 10:42 AM (TIIx5)

44 Debbie whatshername schlitz is a fine example of what happens when a woman has sex with a cello.

Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2014 10:42 AM (bJm7W)

45 Ya know the answer to all this? Fifteen dollar minimum wage.

Posted by: MSM at April 22, 2014 10:43 AM (gOoFi)

46 19 Yeah, I read that the other day and was all hmm *tap chin* why could people not want to take on actual employees, hmmm. It's a mystery that. To continue the actor discussion from below, MWR, here, I think this sums up HP books v. movies perfectly: http://bit.ly/1mAzyKl Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 22, 2014 02:35 PM (mf5HN) Okay, that made me laugh.

Posted by: nnptcgrad at April 22, 2014 10:43 AM (MqNIl)

47 You're delusional. And seriously need to think before you type. I have no agenda, I have been impressed by every word I've heard Brannon speak. Clueless punk.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 10:43 AM (ZshNr)

48 when a woman has sex with a cello. Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2014 02:42 PM (bJm7W) Do NOT google that.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:44 AM (x3YFz)

49 44Debbie whatshername schlitz is a fine example of what happens when a woman has sex with a cello.


Why the cello hate?

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at April 22, 2014 10:44 AM (znT2j)

50 I'm sticking with funemployment. At least the government can't tax what I don't earn... yet.

Posted by: Damiano at April 22, 2014 10:44 AM (j0wOO)

51 Debbie whatshername schlitz is a fine example of what happens when a woman has sex with a cello. Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2014 02:42 PM (bJm7W) More like swallowed a cello. God help me, I've seen the full length photos for proof.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 10:45 AM (TIIx5)

52 Alls I saw was "39 Paragraphs" and I said Woohoo, a movie review!

Posted by: Soothie § at April 22, 2014 10:45 AM (qtuwr)

53 when a woman has sex with a cello. Fuckin' cello is getting more action than me.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 22, 2014 10:45 AM (gOoFi)

54 You know, if we'd raise taxes and implement  Cap and Trade, we'd solve many of these problems.

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 10:45 AM (trhm+)

55 Must be tough to afford the Obamacare premiums doing temp work.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 22, 2014 10:45 AM (W7ffl)

56 Moar amnesty!!!! Posted by: Y-not auditioning for the RNC at April 22, 2014 02:41 PM (zDsvJ) At your service! JEB BUSH PUSHES AMNESTY, MORE HIGH-TECH VISAS AT EDUCATION CONFERENCE http://tinyurl.com/l7kfy2x

Posted by: Jeb Bush, The Only Candidate Who Can Beat Hillary at April 22, 2014 10:46 AM (aTXUx)

57 You know, if we'd raise taxes and implement Cap and Trade, we'd solve many of these problems Effin' A.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at April 22, 2014 10:46 AM (gOoFi)

58 Fuck this drivel. Who cares. Has Chelsea been doing her kegels? What's her lactation plan? Let's focus on the stuff that matters people.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 22, 2014 10:46 AM (+lsX1)

59 The Hegelian spirit of the modern American left — manifest in pronouncements about the Living Constitution and the end of debate — is everywhere to be found. Notice, for example, how quickly Team Obama declares that those who do or say things it doesn’t like are “on the wrong side of history” or relying on 19th century methods.

That this seems to be just about the strongest condemnation Team Obama can muster (e.g., against Putin) seems laughable to conservatives. But for Hegelians the charge is pure damnation.

Hegel’s historicism is, at root, authoritarian, if not totalitarian. When you are on the wrong side of history you aren’t just mistaken, you’re the enemy of “the rational unity” — “the absolute idea.” You are part of the “ash heap of history” (to quote Trotsky), and those who are on the right side of history will be happy to escort your remains there.

Hegel inspired the worst totalitarian excesses of the 20th century. No one should be surprised at the 21st century authoritarian tendencies of HegelÂ’s ideological heirs, American Progressives, or at the excesses they would like to impose.

Posted by: Samantha Fox at April 22, 2014 10:46 AM (e8kgV)

60 Debbie whatshername schlitz is a fine example of what happens when a woman has sex with a cello.

Posted by: mallfly at April 22, 2014 02:42 PM (bJm7W)


----


heh.....


Look at Debbie..... Look at Chelsea..... Look at Hillary.


Tell me DWS couldnt be a long lost child of Hillary's.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 22, 2014 10:47 AM (nELVU)

61 You're on Tillis' campaign staff and you're going to vote for him. We get it. Please stop with the other horseshit. I've listened to Brannon. He's a solid conservative. I'd vote for him. Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 02:42 PM (trhm+) You're getting nics mixed up. Lincolntf is asking a straightforward question. I don't know, all I know is that one ad that is pretty much just screaming Koch Brothers Tillis Koch Brothers Tillis over and over again is the most bizarre political ad I've ever seen. Seriously, it's like Koch Brothers breathe air and Tillis breathes air omfg Koch Brothers own Tillis! It's just strange.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 22, 2014 10:47 AM (mf5HN)

62 You'd think  she  would ask Ezra Klein - he tweeted the answer the other day with his Thomas Sargent cite.

Posted by: @johntant at April 22, 2014 10:48 AM (eytER)

63

Booming temp sector is also a good thing.  Temp work has bailed me out of several rough patches between jobs.  What really sucks is when you can't find temp work. 

 

And it's a really satisfying transaction.  No "where do you see yourself in five years?".  Can you do it, will you show up on time?  No fake loyalty either way.  Just here's my time and skills, thank you for your money.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 22, 2014 10:49 AM (JtwS4)

64 But as Michelle Obama says "splurge!"

Posted by: Iblis at April 22, 2014 10:49 AM (9221z)

65 Not to worry. 'Cause splurging - not a job - is the key to life.

Posted by: USA at April 22, 2014 10:49 AM (Sg02p)

66 You're on Tillis' campaign staff and you're going to vote for him. We get it. Please stop with the other horseshit.

I've listened to Brannon. He's a solid conservative. I'd vote for him.
Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 02:42 PM (trhm+)


You're thinking of "Nip Sip" who is a Tillis backer.


I've not made up my mind on either Brannon or Tillis yet.

Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 10:49 AM (GQ8sn)

67 To continue the actor discussion from below, MWR, here, I think this sums up HP books v. movies perfectly: What's nuggety? Is it chunky? That doesn't seem right. I looked up British slang for nugget and all I found was a rude person and a pound sterling.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 22, 2014 10:49 AM (gtjN1)

68 Seriously, it's like Koch Brothers breathe air and Tillis breathes air omfg Koch Brothers own Tillis! It's just strange. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 22, 2014 02:47 PM (mf5HN) ....and you don't have to actually say a word, you can just point in the general direction of Soros and raise an eyebrow and they go apoplectic.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:50 AM (x3YFz)

69 Clearly we just need to pass a law that makes temp jobs that last more than 6 months permanent. Force companies to hire their temp workers full time. Problem solved. You're welcome, America.

Posted by: Progtard 2000 at April 22, 2014 10:50 AM (ZPrif)

70 You know what will be fun? When all the temporary workers get their "Personal Responsibility Penalty" bill (Dread Justice Roberts edit: It's a TAX!!) on next year's taxes and have to fork over 1% of their income.

Posted by: Damiano at April 22, 2014 10:50 AM (j0wOO)

71 Give us this day our daily pravda.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 22, 2014 10:51 AM (hJauc)

72 Lincolntf is asking a straightforward question. I don't know, all I know is that one ad that is pretty much just screaming Koch Brothers Tillis Koch Brothers Tillis over and over again is the most bizarre political ad I've ever seen.

Seriously, it's like Koch Brothers breathe air and Tillis breathes air omfg Koch Brothers own Tillis! It's just strange.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Orion Death Star 2016 at April 22, 2014 02:47 PM (mf5HN)

 

 

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So it's not  Lincolntf that's been pushing Tillis since that race began?  Maybe I'm mistaken. 

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 10:51 AM (trhm+)

73
Soros..... Sauron....Sauroman..... whatever....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 22, 2014 10:51 AM (nELVU)

74 No surprise there, old chap.  Sold their souls, they have.*

 

*Not suggesting the Down Low Preezy is Satan, mind you, Satan is very smart.

Posted by: eureka! at April 22, 2014 10:51 AM (q7DBM)

75 Yeah it's fucking awful out there to even be looking for shitty part time work. I know the from experience.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at April 22, 2014 10:51 AM (U8W/7)

76 73 Soros..... Sauron....Sauroman..... whatever.... --- Did someone call for me?

Posted by: The Mouth Of Soros at April 22, 2014 10:51 AM (APuJ7)

77 73 Soros..... Sauron....Sauroman.....Satan... whatever.... Posted by: fixerupper at April 22, 2014 02:51 PM (nELVU) added the missing part.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:52 AM (x3YFz)

78 Debate tonight, by the way. I did not know that until the last radio break. 4 of the 8 Republican candidates, on Time Warner Cable News in NC. 4 no-shows are obvious fringe jobs, the Harris guy has a lot of signs around, will be there, but I know nothing about him, don't even know the 4th participant's name.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 10:52 AM (ZshNr)

79 So it's not Lincolntf that's been pushing Tillis since that race began? Maybe I'm mistaken.

It's too late now, just go with it as if it were true.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 22, 2014 10:52 AM (+lsX1)

80 Bob Dole says Free Mumia.

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 22, 2014 10:52 AM (32Ze2)

81

Not knowing much if anything about the NC race, I entered Brannon's name in an internet search and immediately came news stories about how he refused to answer a question as to whether 9/11 was an inside job.

 

Again, I don't have a dog in the fight but it sure isn't helping Brannon if this thing comes up to the LIVs.

Posted by: @johntant at April 22, 2014 10:53 AM (eytER)

82 What is this "work" you all keep referring to? Is it somehow related to that mythical "money" thingy I hear so much about?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 22, 2014 10:53 AM (0HooB)

83 Yeah it's fucking awful out there to even be looking for shitty part time work. I know the from experience. Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at April 22, 2014 02:51 PM (U8W/7) Had a guy show up to pick a lock today. $85 for labor (took him all of 1 minute). Guess who's on Amazon buying lockpicking kits and books today? Cash under the table.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:53 AM (x3YFz)

84 Clearly we just need to pass a law that makes temp jobs that last more than 6 months permanent. Force companies to hire their temp workers full time. Problem solved. You're welcome, America. Posted by: Progtard 2000 at April 22, 2014 02:50 PM (ZPrif) By Executive Order 66, it is decreed that - All companies will hiring no more people, nor terminate anyone's employment. - All workers must remain in their present position as present wages - All companies and workers will produce the same amount of products and services as the base period measured from this time last year through the prior 1 year.

Posted by: Ayn Rand, who told ya so at April 22, 2014 10:54 AM (j0wOO)

85 All those temp workers can earn extra money helping to build a 7,000-foot tall statue of Obama, as part of the Civilian Idolization Corps. Problem solved! Then, when they're done with tat, they can smash some windows and then re-install them.

Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2014 10:54 AM (mizYg)

86 The Lies must flow!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 22, 2014 10:54 AM (JS0vr)

87
You're thinking of "Nip Sip" who is a Tillis backer.


I've not made up my mind on either Brannon or Tillis yet.

Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 02:49 PM (GQ8sn)

 

 

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I knew  it was someone that commented here on AoSHQ that was gaga for Tillis.  Thought it was Lincolntf because he's been commenting on this race since the morning  threads.

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 10:55 AM (trhm+)

88

Posted by: Ayn Rand, who told ya so

 

When I first read her I thought she was onto something big, but a bit hyperbolic.  Now, more like prescient.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 22, 2014 10:55 AM (JtwS4)

89 Spoons. Dam. Dig.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:56 AM (x3YFz)

90 Bob Dole says No Justlice, No Peace!

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 22, 2014 10:56 AM (32Ze2)

91 I knew it was someone that commented here on AoSHQ that was gaga for Tillis. Thought it was Lincolntf because he's been commenting on this race since the morning threads.

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 02:55 PM (trhm+)



No, that would definitely be Nip Sip.  It sounds like he and Tillis are buddies that go back a ways.


Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 10:56 AM (GQ8sn)

92 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 10:57 AM (PYAXX)

93

Thought it was Lincolntf because he's been commenting on this race since the morning threads.

 

The gristly head has it right.  You have to double down now.  Lincolntf is in the tank for Brannon.  And CharlieBrownsDildo hate joos.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 22, 2014 10:57 AM (JtwS4)

94 Welcome to the new part-time economy. Hold on to your full-time jobs with both hands, Horde, if you lose 'em, you may never replace 'em.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 10:57 AM (PYAXX)

95 Bob Dole says No Justlice, No Peace! Posted by: Bob Dole at April 22, 2014 02:56 PM (32Ze2) Unless he can 'sign' it with both hands it doesn't count.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:57 AM (x3YFz)

96
Wait til those temp workers file their 1099-MISC taxes next year.

That "self employment" tax is a killer.... and it gives two shits less how little you made.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 22, 2014 10:57 AM (nELVU)

97 What could be out there causing a spike in part-time workers? It's a mystery I tell ya; a goll darn mystery.

Posted by: lawdvd at April 22, 2014 10:57 AM (d3clc)

98 ..... cause we're gonna WIIINNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!" **moar Stupid Shit Debbie WassermanSchultz said. Not all that stupid since Washerwoman-Schmutz is probably right.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 22, 2014 10:58 AM (7ObY1)

99 Tell me DWS couldnt be a long lost child of Hillary's.

Born in 1966...surely if HRC had an "unwanted" pregnancy while at Wellesley she'd have had the connections and funds to find someone to "take care of it."

Posted by: HR at April 22, 2014 10:58 AM (ZKzrr)

100 NEW PORT RICHEY, FL (WFLA) - When soldier Michael Sharkey was deployed to Afghanistan two years ago, he asked a friend to watch over his New Port Richey house. Sharkey and his wife are now living in Hawaii where he is currently stationed. They plan to move back into their New Port Richey home someday. But, right now they are fighting to get their house back.

They say strangers broke in, changed the locks, moved in and they refuse to leave.

"I want the people out," said Sharkey. "They're criminals living in my house."

Sharkey was shocked to find out that the Pasco County Sheriff's Office says it can't do anything about the squatters.

Here's where it gets complicated.

Posted by: The Only Good Poll is a May Pole at April 22, 2014 10:58 AM (e8kgV)

101 Bob Dole says What are we fighting for? Don't ask me I don't give a damn.

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 22, 2014 10:58 AM (32Ze2)

102

Samantha Fox, not only are you fucking hotter than shit, you are dead on balls accurate.

 

Hegel and his ilk are behind it all.

 

Law comes from God. 

 

When law comes from man, all is possible and nothing is inviolate.  You think mankind can be vicious even though proclaiming to be religious, just wait until that is no longer the case.

 

The atheists will bring us horrors on a scale never before seen.  In the past 100 yrs they have already rivaled the entire human history of slaughter, death and misery.

 

But no gheys, bake your fucking cake, fuck in the streets everyone, who am I to judge?  Fuck your dog, marry your parakeet, marry your grandma, who am I to say it's wrong. 

 

A man who believes in nothing believes in everything...

Posted by: prescient11 at April 22, 2014 10:58 AM (tVTLU)

103 The gristly head has it right. You have to double down now. Lincolntf is in the tank for Brannon. And CharlieBrownsDildo hate joos.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 22, 2014 02:57 PM (JtwS4)

 

 

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Damn that CBD! 

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 10:59 AM (trhm+)

104 You have to double down now. Lincolntf is in the tank for Brannon. And CharlieBrownsDildo hate joos. Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 22, 2014 02:57 PM (JtwS4) Repressing the inner NCO urge to just make everyone head to the drill pad with toothbrushes. Unfuck it. Now.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 10:59 AM (x3YFz)

105 It is NEVER the Tsar's fault comrade Ewokovich....

Good to see Peg is not sucking HILLARY!'s crank yet....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 10:59 AM (TE35l)

106 Bob Dole says that Bob Dole provided the Mayo for Debbie Whatshernutz hairdo.

Posted by: Bob Dole at April 22, 2014 10:59 AM (32Ze2)

107

Frumious:

 

Temp work definitely has its place.  It is not a sign of a healthy economy when it is as high as it is now.

 

Workers are more and more becoming a liability and not an asset.  That is dangerous.  See France.

Posted by: prescient11 at April 22, 2014 11:00 AM (tVTLU)

108 83?
T9?

It's not hard to learn- I taught it all the time in the 1980's. Get a quix-pick gun, tension the cylinder- both ways- most of the time you will get in. "Locks are for honest people...."

Posted by: backhoe at April 22, 2014 11:01 AM (ULH4o)

109 Not suggesting the Down Low Preezy is Satan, mind you, Satan is very smart.

And Satan can get the ball across the plate.

Posted by: HR at April 22, 2014 11:01 AM (ZKzrr)

110 Whole world's going mad.

Posted by: Cato at April 22, 2014 11:01 AM (4cRuH)

111 17 mallfly at April 22, 2014 02:35 PM (bJm7W)

Matty Yglesias stop socking mallfly

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:01 AM (TE35l)

112 Lincolntf is asking a straightforward question. I don't know, all I know is that one ad that is pretty much just screaming Koch Brothers Tillis Koch Brothers Tillis over and over again is the most bizarre political ad I've ever seen.

That's just weird. Some Dem poll meister must've focus-grouped the Koch brothers and came up with high negatives.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 22, 2014 11:01 AM (I8YZX)

113 Repressing the inner NCO urge to just make everyone head to the drill pad with toothbrushes. Unfuck it. Now. #twoengineers & #threedoctors

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 11:01 AM (cB3Ay)

114 NEW PORT RICHEY, FL (WFLA) - When soldier Michael Sharkey was deployed to Afghanistan two years ago, he asked a friend to watch over his New Port Richey house. Sharkey and his wife are now living in Hawaii where he is currently stationed. They plan to move back into their New Port Richey home someday. But, right now they are fighting to get their house back.

They say strangers broke in, changed the locks, moved in and they refuse to leave.

"I want the people out," said Sharkey. "They're criminals living in my house."

Sharkey was shocked to find out that the Pasco County Sheriff's Office says it can't do anything about the squatters.

Here's where it gets complicated.

Posted by: The Only Good Poll is a May Pole at April 22, 2014 02:58 PM (e8kgV)



I wonder if Sharkey picked up a few tricks in Afghanistan.  Does he know how to "clear" a house?



Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 11:01 AM (GQ8sn)

115 So it's not Lincolntf that's been pushing Tillis since that race began? Maybe I'm mistaken. Posted by: Soona ---------------- You are speaking of Nip Sip, who I will allow to speak for himself. Reid's PAC has been running Tillis smear/pro-Hagan ads. My interpretation is that the Dems believe that Brannon is the weaker candidate (and he may well be, in the context of a political game), and they would rather run against Brannon than Tillis. To the extent that they can damage Tillis in the process, it's a twofer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 11:01 AM (aDwsi)

116 Ya know the answer to all this?

Fifteen dollar minimum wage.

Posted by: MSM

 

Make it fifty!  That and an alien invasion and we're all set!

Posted by: Former Enron Consultant Paul Krugman at April 22, 2014 11:02 AM (NF2Bf)

117 Hold on to your full-time jobs with both hands, Horde, if you lose 'em, you may never replace 'em.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 02:57 PM (PYAXX)

 

 

-------------------------------------------------

 

 

This!  Career choice is no longer an option in the new Amerika.

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 11:02 AM (trhm+)

118 I wonder if Sharkey picked up a few tricks in Afghanistan. Does he know how to "clear" a house? And feed sharks?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 11:03 AM (cB3Ay)

119

OT, although not entirely:

 

Was  listening to Erickson, filling in for Rush today.  Those  who heard it probably had the same reaction as I.  The woman who is trying to fund a movie about Gosnell, and between the two  of them they were able to make the connection:

 

The story went    nowhere.  Why?  Well, one reason might be that there is evidence out there that state senator Obama, when  Illinois was debating the "Born Alive" bill, he was the only guy who stood up to oppose it. 

 

Mainstream  media:  protecting  these rotten  evil scummy pigs since... well, since at  least  the day the head pig  was elected to the Illinois state  senate. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2014 11:03 AM (TOk1P)

120 People complain that with only temp jobs people won't be able to afford a middle class lifestyle, house in the suburbs, etc. Well, good. Single family homes are destroying the planet. Most people should life in apartments, ideally studio apartments. Also eating out is inefficient and wasteful. You'll value restaurants more when you can't afford them anyway. Best thing about apartments is it's much easier to centrally control the heating and air conditioning. In single family homes people use too much energy. Also, single family homes encourage wasteful breeding. In the cramped conditions of apartment living you rarely see people with large families. Poverty will save the planet!!

Posted by: Progtard 2000 at April 22, 2014 11:03 AM (ZPrif)

121 T9? It's not hard to learn- I taught it all the time in the 1980's. Get a quix-pick gun, tension the cylinder- both ways- most of the time you will get in. "Locks are for honest people...." Posted by: backhoe at April 22, 2014 03:01 PM (ULH4o) Yeah, it doesn't seem too tricky. I have a few 18B friends and they learned it in a classroom as an afterthought (think all Green Berets get the same training). They said it's cake. I embrace my future criminal history!

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:03 AM (x3YFz)

122 If only there was a way to force the networks to cover obamacare. I'm spit-balling here, but maybe some sort of talking filibuster could do it.

Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 11:03 AM (gmeXX)

123 I wonder if Sharkey picked up a few tricks in Afghanistan. Does he know how to "clear" a house?


And feed sharks?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 03:03 PM (cB3Ay)



Squatter stories make no sense to me.  The homeowner's word should be the end of it. 

Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 11:04 AM (GQ8sn)

124 Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 03:01 PM (GQ8sn) Florida does have the Castle Doctrine, and it IS his house...

Posted by: Cato at April 22, 2014 11:04 AM (4cRuH)

125 In the cramped conditions of apartment living you rarely see people with large families.



Wrong.

Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 11:04 AM (GQ8sn)

126 Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 22, 2014 02:55 PM (JtwS4) When I watched Atlas Shrugged pt 1, I had to check and see if the tv had reset itself to msnbc when the Wesley Mouch character came on!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 22, 2014 11:05 AM (o3MSL)

127 That's just weird. Some Dem poll meister must've focus-grouped the Koch brothers and came up with high negatives. Posted by: Oregon ---------------- The Dems and their MSM Fellow Travelers have labored mightily to paint the Koch brothers as evil. It's working. As a Lib who George Soros is, and they will have no idea who he is. Ask them about the Koch brothers, and you will learn that they are evil...., because Rachel Maddow told them so.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 11:05 AM (aDwsi)

128 Welcome to the new part-time economy. Hold on to your full-time jobs with both hands, Horde, if you lose 'em, you may never replace 'em. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 02:57 PM (PYAXX) Word. .

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at April 22, 2014 11:05 AM (U8W/7)

129 Earth Day Recycling Update: Milk carton just blew past and made a perfect left turn onto Euclid.

Posted by: Up With People at April 22, 2014 11:05 AM (pf+hU)

130 Well, it's obvious that we have to have a massive jobs training program to fill all the unfilled permanent jobs. Some. Nitwit. Will. Say. This.* *--Trick statement. One already did during the State of the Union Address this year.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 22, 2014 11:05 AM (659DL)

131 Tune in next week, when Obama will make firings illegal by executive order, ensuring that unemployment can't get worse before the election. The order will not extend to the top 10% of income earners, of course.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 22, 2014 11:05 AM (1Y+hH)

132 Deal with it suckas!!

Posted by: Melissa Harris-Perry at April 22, 2014 02:41 PM (5UteM)

...

You mean thuckath?

Posted by: wth at April 22, 2014 11:05 AM (wAQA5)

133 In the cramped conditions of apartment living you rarely see people with large families. Wrong. Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 03:04 PM (GQ8sn) Heh... so so wrong.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:05 AM (x3YFz)

134 Gettin' paid, son!

Posted by: Temp Attorney at April 22, 2014 11:05 AM (y9dfJ)

135 Yeah, it doesn't seem too tricky. I have a few 18B friends and they learned it in a classroom as an afterthought (think all Green Berets get the same training). They said it's cake. I embrace my future criminal history! Master locks are the easiest.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 11:06 AM (cB3Ay)

136 Saw a comment about Chelsea Hubble's pregnancy.  Kinda hypocritical for the left to be so breathlessly engaged by Chelsea's physical condition.

On the right commentators should refer to the media's speculation about the coming 'baby' as "presumptuous, premature assumptions about the growing <i>in uterus</i> 'tissue' Chelsea's now carrying as being a "Royal Baby".  There are still a number of months where Chelsea could 'choose' to abort and have the tissue they are talking about chopped up, scraped and removed from Chelsea's uterus as is her protected right, a right which the potential grandparents Bill and Hillary have fought for years to protect, indeed, have had all taxpayers subsidize it is so important. A 'Royal Abortion', so to speak." 

Posted by: eureka! at April 22, 2014 11:06 AM (q7DBM)

137 They say strangers broke in, changed the locks, moved in and they refuse to leave. "I want the people out," said Sharkey. "They're criminals living in my house." I've heard stories of this in England. Not so much in America. I don't know why it's such a problem, probably stupid laws. People go away for the day and come back and have a Traveler family living in their house. The Plod come by and can't do anything. I think the Travelers just have to fake up a bill or two and it becomes unsolvable without the barristers.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 22, 2014 11:06 AM (gtjN1)

138 Reid's PAC has been running Tillis smear/pro-Hagan ads. My interpretation is that the Dems believe that Brannon is the weaker candidate (and he may well be, in the context of a political game), and they would rather run against Brannon than Tillis. To the extent that they can damage Tillis in the process, it's a twofer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 03:01 PM (aDwsi)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

I have always thought that Tillis was the weaker choice.  But it's  NC.  The politics seem to be strange there. 

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 11:06 AM (trhm+)

139

Also, replace ditchdiggers shovels with spoons.

 

Full employment!

Posted by: Former Enron Consultant Paul Krugman at April 22, 2014 11:07 AM (NF2Bf)

140 A 'Royal Abortion', so to speak." --- If Chelsea has a Royal Abortion, will they be selling the dismembered pieces of the fetus as mementos of the occasion?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 22, 2014 11:07 AM (APuJ7)

141 @136: I'm sick of the whole political dynasty thing. Seriously, if this is what the USA is becoming, we may as well surrender unconditionally to the UK and send them an apology for that whole revolution thing.

Posted by: Cato at April 22, 2014 11:07 AM (4cRuH)

142 Master locks are the easiest. Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 03:06 PM (cB3Ay) so for home door locks: keypads?

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:07 AM (x3YFz)

143
"Adverse possession" leads to "adverse selection" I always say.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 22, 2014 11:08 AM (nELVU)

144 So, I'm getting lost here. Are the rich bad when they hire people (exploitation) or when they don't (avoiding buying healthcare)?

Posted by: Meremortal at April 22, 2014 11:08 AM (1Y+hH)

145

112 -

 

And again, beating  my own particular horse today, if you polled  the  LiVs in  this  country for the most evil Americans, Koch brothers would score way high.

 

Gosnell? 

 

Nary a mention.  Probably somewhere below Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber... and he ain't even Amerkin. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2014 11:08 AM (TOk1P)

146 122 If only there was a way to force the networks to cover obamacare. I'm spit-balling here, but maybe some sort of talking filibuster could do it. Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 03:03 PM (gmeXX) ----------------- Nah. The MSM wouldn't report about the issue itself. They'd just talk about the "extremist" who is so extremely extremey that he talks for an extremely long time about extremey things!!!!!! And then they'd go get McCain to say how extreme!!!!! the extremist!!!!! is.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 22, 2014 11:08 AM (dfYL9)

147 Born in 1966...surely if HRC had an "unwanted" pregnancy while at Wellesley she'd have had the connections and funds to find someone to "take care of it." Posted by: HR at April 22, 2014 02:58 PM (ZKzrr) Geez, didn't realize she was only 47. She doesn't look a day over 60.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 11:09 AM (TIIx5)

148

Are the rich bad when they hire people (exploitation) or when they don't (avoiding buying healthcare)?

 

Yes!

Posted by: Former Enron Consultant Paul Krugman at April 22, 2014 11:09 AM (NF2Bf)

149 OT: I've always regarded the former husband of my wife's cousin to be worthless scum. Since this jackass never emerged from the shadows long enough to mow the lawn or shovel a sidewalk he was the whitest person I've ever. (Imagine a mushroom or a cave-dwelling fish.) So-that having been am I still a racist if I regard the SCOAMF to be worthless scum? BTW this guy was a classic liberal. He though he was the smartest man alive but he never accomplished a single thing in his life. Hey his story could be Obama's.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 22, 2014 11:09 AM (shNkh)

150 Are the rich bad when they hire people (exploitation) or when they don't (avoiding buying healthcare)?

Posted by: Meremortal at April 22, 2014 03:08 PM (1Y+hH)


----


YES!!

Posted by: LIBTARDS EVERYWHERE at April 22, 2014 11:09 AM (nELVU)

151 146 Margarita DeVille at April 22, 2014 03:08 PM (dfYL9)

If only the GOP all-stars were as bothered by Ogabecare as they are Senator Cruz

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:09 AM (TE35l)

152 I've ever seen.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 22, 2014 11:09 AM (shNkh)

153 I mean if you really, REALLY want to get in a house you just cut through the siding and drywall and bypass the security system. It ain't rocket surgery. But we can't all live in vaults, you just live in the place that's harder to get into than the place down the street.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:09 AM (x3YFz)

154 President Boyfriend (aka Shit Midas) must be protected.

At. All. Costs.

Posted by: acethepug at April 22, 2014 11:10 AM (HRgCc)

155

<i>YES!!

Posted by: LIBTARDS EVERYWHERE</i>

 

JINX!

 

*fist bump*

Posted by: Former Enron Consultant Paul Krugman at April 22, 2014 11:10 AM (NF2Bf)

156 I think the Travelers just have to fake up a bill or two and it becomes unsolvable without the barristers. They best "fake up" a mortgage & insurance or there will be gunplay.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 11:10 AM (cB3Ay)

157 Need to boost the employment numbers? No problem. Provide an incentive (Obamacare, Min. Wage) to reduce working hours to 3/4 of normal (40 hrs.) , then employers will have to hire 25% more people. Voila!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 11:10 AM (aDwsi)

158 Open enrollment in the Obamacare exchanges is closed for 2014, but healthcare.gov wants Americans to know, “You may still have options to get health coverage this year.” Healthcare.gov lists eight situations that qualify for special enrollment in the exchanges, including “leaving incarceration.” On Monday, Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Justice Department will release new clemency guidelines later this week, designed to help thousands of nonviolent drug offenders get out of prison. In addition to getting out of prison, the other “qualifying life events” that will allow you to enroll in the exchanges before Nov. 15 include: – No longer being covered by your parents’ plan – Moving to a new area – Having a baby or adopting a child – Getting married or divorced – Losing your other health insurance – Gaining status as a member of an Indian tribe – Gaining citizenship Uninsured Americans who didn’t sign up for health coverage by April 15 will have to wait until Nov. 15 to purchase a policy, unless they’re eligible for Medicaid or CHIP. Those government-run plans for low-income people accept enrollees year-round. ??? So commit a crime and win the lottery? Not bad Not bad

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 22, 2014 11:11 AM (t3UFN)

159 Since this jackass never emerged from the shadows long enough to mow the lawn or shovel a sidewalk he was the whitest person I've ever. (Imagine a mushroom or a cave-dwelling fish.)

I shoveled all winter, and I'm whiter than that.  *sniff*

Posted by: HR at April 22, 2014 11:11 AM (ZKzrr)

160 Are temp agencies bound by the employer mandate to provide health insurance to their temps?

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 22, 2014 11:11 AM (/AHDz)

161 Born in 1966...surely if HRC had an "unwanted" pregnancy while at Wellesley she'd have had the connections and funds to find someone to "take care of it." Hillary was spawned in 1947.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 22, 2014 11:11 AM (gtjN1)

162 I think the Travelers just have to fake up a bill or two and it becomes unsolvable without the barristers.


They best "fake up" a mortgage & insurance or there will be gunplay.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 03:10 PM (cB3Ay)



Best move to make would be to call 911 and say someone's in the house and they've got a gun.


Reverse SWAT'D!!!



Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 11:11 AM (GQ8sn)

163

Everything is awesome!!!

 

NOW WHO WANTS TACOS?!?!?

Posted by: President/Lord Business at April 22, 2014 11:12 AM (D8m/s)

164 147 IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 03:09 PM (TIIx5)

I think someone typo'd Hillary! age wise...

Sir Edmund HILLARY! Rodman was born in '47

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:12 AM (TE35l)

165 Obamacare has afforded me the luxury of health care without being tied down to a job. Now I can concentrate on my art and poetry. My media is mostly cardboard with markers, sometimes ballpoint pen if I can't find markers. I concentrate on typography along with my poems. Here's one. Will work for food please help hungry

Posted by: Bum at intersection at April 22, 2014 11:12 AM (pgQxn)

166 I know there are people on this board who will disagree. But when the other side won't even engage in the debate, you have won. When the other side cannot support their position, you have won. When the other side says the debate is over and move on, you have won. I can't say whether it will be a complete victory or a minor victory, and I don't know when it will ultimately come. But it is coming. You cannot sustain power merely by telling the other side to shut up.

Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 11:12 AM (gmeXX)

167 Hillary was spawned in 1947.

And she was at Wellesley in 1966, when DWS was dropped off on our planet.

Posted by: HR at April 22, 2014 11:12 AM (ZKzrr)

168 so for home door locks: keypads? Posted by: tangonine That's what I use. I've never been able to get thru a Kwikset. But I learned in an evening on master padlocks.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 11:12 AM (cB3Ay)

169 So commit a crime and win the lottery? Not bad Not bad Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 22, 2014 03:11 PM (t3UFN) Well, shoot, I'm going to go knock over a liquor store (no gun). I'll just yell a lot. Full coverage!

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:12 AM (x3YFz)

170 @153. Why don't we live in Vaults? Do it Fallout style, except none of that Overseer crap. Everything you need, right in the comfort of your own metal cave, and the surface world can go to hell all it wants to.

Posted by: Cato at April 22, 2014 11:13 AM (4cRuH)

171 Ad then there's this: Obama has fundamentally transformed America, into a poorer country. It's hard to believe that less well off people who can't find jobs are of no interest to the press. http://nyti.ms/1mAwHkT Al Hunt even goes so far as to wonder the opposite, as in "Why isn't All The Good News Getting More Attention?". Because, stupid Al, there isn't any good news.

Posted by: MTF at April 22, 2014 11:13 AM (LISuA)

172 Geez, didn't realize she was only 47. She doesn't look a day over 60. Posted by: IllTempered ----------------- Well, we know for certain that she wasn't born until after Edmund Hillary climbed Mt. Everest. She said so, and she would never lie.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 11:13 AM (aDwsi)

173
.... gaining status as a member of an Indian tribe...???

o_O

Posted by: fixerupper at April 22, 2014 11:13 AM (nELVU)

174 That's what I use. I've never been able to get thru a Kwikset. But I learned in an evening on master padlocks. Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 03:12 PM (cB3Ay) copy.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:14 AM (x3YFz)

175 "They say strangers broke in, changed the locks, moved in and they refuse to leave. " Oh, I'd get them out of my house, guaranteed. First, I would torture them though.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 22, 2014 11:14 AM (1Y+hH)

176 They best "fake up" a mortgage & insurance or there will be gunplay. That's what confuses me. You'd think it'd take about 10 minutes to prove a house is yours, but I've read several stories in UK press where it takes weeks. And in the meantime Travelers are tearing up your house.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 22, 2014 11:14 AM (gtjN1)

177 .... gaining status as a member of an Indian tribe...???



Indian tribes just found a way to make some serious money.


Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 11:14 AM (GQ8sn)

178 153 tangonine at April 22, 2014 03:09 PM (x3YFz)

I see we've been sharing a brain again....

I was explaining to Lad10077 that volunteering at a rural fire Dept means you'll be trained to make rapid ingress through engineering methods into a dwelling....

useful for urban warfare

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:14 AM (TE35l)

179 145 -- .." if you polled theLiVs in this country for the most evil Americans, Koch brothers would score way high." --------------- Propaganda works. At first it seems silly for the Dems to yap about them over and over and over and over. But that's what you have to do to reach the LIVs. That's why having a permanent 24/7 microphone is such an advantage.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 22, 2014 11:14 AM (dfYL9)

180 "I've not made up my mind on either Brannon or Tillis yet."

Of course, either are preferable to Hagan, and the question must be which of the two has the better chance of unseating her in the fall.

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to have been clarified yet.

None too happy with what I've heard about Tillis and "immigration reform", though. There is a strong stench of stealth amnesty there.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 22, 2014 11:14 AM (noWW6)

181 But when the other side won't even engage in the debate, you have won. When the other side cannot support their position, you have won. When the other side says the debate is over and move on, you have won. If that were the case, the SCOAMT wouldn't be President, and never would have been. You may win on the debate team in your scenario, but the real world doesn't care who won on points.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 11:14 AM (PYAXX)

182

166 -

 

I wish I had your optimism.

 

My  take is, they are expecting losses in the '14 election, and may be trying  to minimize them, but they fully expect the Obamacare bus to have left the station long before 2016. 

 

By then it won't be them declaring the debate to be over, the debate WILL  be over. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2014 11:15 AM (TOk1P)

183 .... gaining status as a member of an Indian tribe...??? Indian tribes just found a way to make some serious money. #highcheeks

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 11:15 AM (cB3Ay)

184 That's what confuses me. You'd think it'd take about 10 minutes to prove a house is yours, but I've read several stories in UK press where it takes weeks. And in the meantime Travelers are tearing up your house.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 22, 2014 03:14 PM (gtjN1)



EU has some crazy "squatter" laws that will make your head spin.  It's basically almost like asylum in a microcosm.  If someone sets foot inside your house unchallenged, they are home free!



Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 11:15 AM (GQ8sn)

185 AOSHQ, the best place to play straight man. Always dependable morons about to give the punch lines.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 22, 2014 11:16 AM (1Y+hH)

186 170 Cato at April 22, 2014 03:13 PM (4cRuH)

Why?

Because Moron Estates hasn't happened yet...

although in the past the global warming was so bad there are private tunnels beneath Troy Ohio....

Invest early invest often...

fuck Vault-Tec Val-u-rite dwelling

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:16 AM (TE35l)

187 183 .... gaining status as a member of an Indian tribe...??? Indian tribes just found a way to make some serious money. #highcheeks --- Between this, gambling, and cheap cigarettes, you'd think they could get a better standard of living.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at April 22, 2014 11:16 AM (APuJ7)

188 And she was at Wellesley in 1966, when DWS was dropped off on our planet. I see. I have no defense for my stupidity! : ) I wasn't the only one, though.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 22, 2014 11:16 AM (gtjN1)

189 None too happy with what I've heard about Tillis and "immigration reform", though. There is a strong stench of stealth amnesty there.


Tillis definitely sounds like "establishment" to me.


Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 11:16 AM (GQ8sn)

190 That's what confuses me. You'd think it'd take about 10 minutes to prove a house is yours, but I've read several stories in UK press where it takes weeks. And in the meantime Travelers are tearing up your house. Cops'll claim it's a "civil" matter.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 11:17 AM (cB3Ay)

191 Look, we just need a few new laws to correct the unintended consequences of the old laws.

Posted by: Progtard 2000 at April 22, 2014 11:17 AM (ZPrif)

192 My "qualifying life event" is: FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU AND YOUR MOM AND YOUR MOM'S DOG AND THE GRASS THE DOG WALKS ON. FUCK THE GRASS AND FUCK THE TREES THAT PROVIDE SHADE TO THE GRASS AND FUCK THE RAIN THAT NURTURES THE TREES AND FUCK THE BIRDS THAT NEST IN THEM. FUCK YOU" *cough* had to get that out.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:17 AM (x3YFz)

193 I think someone typo'd Hillary! age wise... Sir Edmund HILLARY! Rodman was born in '47 Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 03:12 PM (TE35l) Debbie WassermanTest, not Cankles.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 11:17 AM (TIIx5)

194

Of course, either are preferable to Hagan, and the question must be which of the two has the better chance of unseating her in the fall.

 

You're out Tom.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at April 22, 2014 11:17 AM (NF2Bf)

195 121?
T9?

I haven't even looked on the web- my tools were pre-web. A quix-pick gun & a set of lockpicks. Practice, practice, practice- like Carnegie Hall. Tension the cylinder and with lockpicks you can feel the tumblers fall into place.

I'm an old construction man- if I really want to get into something I put a demolition blade on the Sawzall and cut a hole. There is always a way to get in.

Posted by: backhoe at April 22, 2014 11:17 AM (ULH4o)

196 Indian tribes just found a way to make some serious money. Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 03:14 PM (GQ8sn) Maybe we should find some tiny tribe with lax membership requirements, get the whole horde and all of our friends and family to join it, then start demanding reparations.

Posted by: Cato at April 22, 2014 11:18 AM (4cRuH)

197 As someone who works for a corporate entity that houses a number of call centers, I can tell you firsthand another aspect of this clown show economy. 

Companies. Can't. Keep. People.

Why? No one wants to fukcing work!

If we have a opening for 20 people, we have to hire 40. 
10 of those will fail the background check for credit.  Holy shit, some of these folks have credit scores in the double digits. 
Five of them will not show up for training and will drop off the face of the earth.
Five more will not make it through training because they have the raw brain power of tile grout. 
Of that 20 souls left, HALF of them will work long enough to reset the old meter on jobless benefits and other free shit and they're outta here.  Of the last ten, you have to watch them like a hawk because they'll spend half of an eight hour day fiddling with their ***damn phones while the call center queues are stacking up like flights at DFW.

We've constantly bitched at the temp agencies, Manpower, etc. to send us some folks who want to work and occasionally they do.  You know who they are?  White and black older middle class folks who were victims of the "recovery" over the last five years.




Posted by: B at April 22, 2014 11:18 AM (Pson9)

198 Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 03:17 PM (x3YFz) Dude, desperate much? That's worse that Soothy and the monkeys.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 11:18 AM (PYAXX)

199 EU has some crazy "squatter" laws that will make your head spin. It's basically almost like asylum in a microcosm. If someone sets foot inside your house unchallenged, they are home free! Posted by: EC True! In England, it is essentially illegal to evict a squatter. Once any nogoodnik climbs in a window of a building you own in England, just write off the whole structure. It's done -- finished. Not yours any more.

Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2014 11:18 AM (mizYg)

200 193 IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 03:17 PM (TIIx5)

How the fuck are "years" measured back on Planet Gamma Epsilon XXIV?


Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:18 AM (TE35l)

201

179 -

 

Yep.  As another illustration, Erickson and this woman with the lovely Irish accent were talking about somebody or other who took to the streets with photos of Jody Arias (some gal who killed her boyfriend, I really  don't know anything  beyond that), and Kermit Gosnell.

 

The  people they interviewd  not only knew who Arias was, but could tell she changed her  hairstyle.  Even after being told  Gosnell's name, they had no idea who he was or what he did. 

 

America's  most prolific serial killer of all time:  a virtual unknown to the masses. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2014 11:19 AM (TOk1P)

202 Debbie WassermanTest, not Cankles.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 03:17 PM (TIIx5)


----


Technically speaking.... both qualify as "Cankles".... tho DWS is a bit more..... "hippy"....


and not in a cool sixties kinda way ....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 22, 2014 11:19 AM (nELVU)

203 If that were the case, the SCOAMT wouldn't be President, and never would have been. You may win on the debate team in your scenario, but the real world doesn't care who won on points. ----- Not true. He basically ran as a conservative. We all knew he wasn't, but when you have a complicit press there you go. But the press cannot cover up forever. At some point, the people know. And I'm talking about the real world. I'm not talking about college level debate. Obama will not engage in debate, because the real world cannot support any argument he makes. The press can cover over those, but at some point, the people will figure it out.

Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 11:19 AM (gmeXX)

204 Posted by: B at April 22, 2014 03:18 PM (Pson9) Let me introduce you to tsrblke. He seems like a nice enough lad, and he's in need of a job...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 11:19 AM (PYAXX)

205 I will deign to tune in to the debate tonight, then maybe I'll have a better idea. Listening to someone tell me what they know I want to hear never impresses me, so campaign ads are just a subject of curiosity, debates sometimes actually reveal character, ability.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 11:19 AM (ZshNr)

206 Unexpectedly???

Posted by: Lizzy at April 22, 2014 11:20 AM (pt5t7)

207 T9? I haven't even looked on the web- my tools were pre-web. A quix-pick gun a set of lockpicks. Practice, practice, practice- like Carnegie Hall. Tension the cylinder and with lockpicks you can feel the tumblers fall into place. I'm an old construction man- if I really want to get into something I put a demolition blade on the Sawzall and cut a hole. There is always a way to get in. Posted by: backhoe at April 22, 2014 03:17 PM (ULH4o) Aye. I'm no looking to get into ft knox here, just have enough skills to avoid a $110 bill.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:20 AM (x3YFz)

208 I had three part-time teaching jobs all through the 1990s


tons of fun, it was:  Low pay, no benefits, no job security, and every f*cked-up frustrated failed-in-the-classroom admin a**hole had his or her way with me.


sigh...

Posted by: Abdullah Abdullah ( not your grandfather's National Socialist ) at April 22, 2014 11:20 AM (JyjXt)

209 Obama will not engage in debate, because the real world cannot support any argument he makes. The press can cover over those, but at some point, the people will figure it out. Yeah... Will you pardon me for not holding my breath while we wait?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 11:20 AM (PYAXX)

210 "And it's a really satisfying transaction. No "where do you see yourself in five years?". Can you do it, will you show up on time? No fake loyalty either way. Just here's my time and skills, thank you for your money. " =============== Yup. I supported myself as a temp in New York for almost ten years, right up until Emperor Golfswing got elected and the temp market dried up completely. It was great not having to participate in the annual "personal development" BS at these companies.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 22, 2014 11:20 AM (/AHDz)

211 OT from Drudge: EXCLUSIVE: 'Negroes in the house! Negroes in the house!' Oprah shouted as her father and his wife arrived. 'She was reminding us of our low class,' says Oprah's bitter stepmother in an explosive first-ever interview

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 22, 2014 11:21 AM (XUKZU)

212 175 "They say strangers broke in, changed the locks, moved in and they refuse to leave. " Oh, I'd get them out of my house, guaranteed. First, I would torture them though. But first, they would blow me.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 22, 2014 11:21 AM (7ObY1)

213 if I really want to get into something I put a demolition blade on the Sawzall and cut a hole. There is always a way to get in. ____ Yeah, if you want into someplace bad enough, door is probably the non solution. Walls are easier.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:21 AM (x3YFz)

214 My take is, they are expecting losses in the '14 election, and may be trying to minimize them, but they fully expect the Obamacare bus to have left the station long before 2016. ---- They have done everything they can to delay Obamacare. And while polls aren't the best indicator of where the public is, they still show Obamacare underwater. Not one Dem is running on it. Why should we assume it will be popular in 2016?

Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 11:22 AM (gmeXX)

215 but at some point, the people will figure it out. Yeah... Will you pardon me for not holding my breath while we wait? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 03:20 PM (PYAXX) lol... agreed Allen. Evidence is curiously absent to that argument.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:22 AM (x3YFz)

216 who takes these scum seriously, other than the portion of the population that's dumber than they are?

Posted by: redc1c4 at April 22, 2014 11:22 AM (q+fqH)

217 Yeah, if you want into someplace bad enough, door is probably the non solution. Walls are easier. With the kind of luck I have, I'd catch the wall with the electrical outlet on it.....

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 11:23 AM (cB3Ay)

218 AllenG - While I prefer things move quicker, it is a long game.

Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 11:23 AM (gmeXX)

219 Drudge has US military planners making googoo eyes at new Russian body armor, AK-74 loads and infantry helmets on display in Ukraine.

Posted by: MTF at April 22, 2014 11:24 AM (LISuA)

220 Why should we assume it will be popular in 2016? I suspect it will be as popular as Social Security. Which is to say- those who are currently receiving it will defend it to the death (most of them, anyway) while those who are instead paying for it will be forced to defend themselves against cries of "H8R!" or some such if they dare suggest, maybe, it's not working as it was sold, and maybe it needs to be scrapped.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 11:24 AM (PYAXX)

221 Yeah being a contractor is great. No benefits, no paid holidays, no sick days, no vacation, treated like a second-class citizen in the workplace, and you have to pay self-employment tax. Plus you can be let go with little to no notice. It's the way of the future.

Posted by: brak at April 22, 2014 11:24 AM (iEoiA)

222 217 rickb223 at April 22, 2014 03:23 PM (cB3Ay)

That's a good thing not a bad one if you're equipped and prepared...

you make sure you're insulated and the circuit gets grounded and *pop* you just turned out the lights

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:24 AM (TE35l)

223 Maybe we should find some tiny tribe with lax membership requirements, get the whole horde and all of our friends and family to join it, then start demanding reparations. Isn't that how Ward Churchill supposedly got his tribal claim? I think "First Nation" tribes are in an intentional contraction phase. They're kicking out as many as they can so they don't have to share the casino funds. I have a good friend who went to school off the Reservation when the tribe had a leader who thought integration would further the tribe's interest. Now the leaders are kicking people out of the profit group who didn't grow up on the Res going to the Res school.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 22, 2014 11:24 AM (gtjN1)

224 With the kind of luck I have, I'd catch the wall with the electrical outlet on it..... Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 03:23 PM (cB3Ay) lol! They run them 2 feet above the framing. Cut higher.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:24 AM (x3YFz)

225 "10 of those will fail the background check for credit. Holy shit, some of these folks have credit scores in the double digits. " ================ But why should someone be denied a job because they have a crappy credit score? When I was younger and dumber, I had a lousy credit score. As I matured, I got more responsible, and now I have a great credit score. Either way, I was as good a worker then as I am now.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 22, 2014 11:24 AM (/AHDz)

226 199In England, it is essentially illegal to evict a squatter. Once any nogoodnik climbs in a window of a building you own in England, just write off the whole structure. It's done -- finished. Not yours any more. Posted by: zombie RETRATION ALERT: I did not realize until I looked it up just now that my statement in comment 199 WAS true until about 18 months ago -- when squatting was finally made illegal in England! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting_in_England "Under Section 144 of the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012, squatting in residential property became a criminal offence on September 1, 2012." Prior to that, however, it was NOT a criminal offense. In fact, it the landlord could e charged with assault if they tried to evict a squatter. I guess the public finally became fed up with that nonsense.

Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2014 11:25 AM (mizYg)

227 Evidence is curiously absent to that argument. ---- The election of 2010 is evidence, maybe 2014 will be too. And while I would agree that the election of 2012 is not really evidence in support of my proposition, I certainly do not think it was evidence in support of Obamacare.

Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 11:25 AM (gmeXX)

228

214 -

 

They won't need it to be  popular in 2016.  They will need it to have been implemented by then, because people will be indifferent.   They will have moved onto  the next big thing. 

 

We have plenty of candidates lining up to be that thing. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2014 11:25 AM (TOk1P)

229 RETRATION ALERT = RETRACTION ALERT

Posted by: zombie at April 22, 2014 11:25 AM (mizYg)

230 None too happy with what I've heard about Tillis and "immigration reform", though. There is a strong stench of stealth amnesty there. Posted by: torque ----------------- Tillis is GOPe, beyond all question. I would have to hold my nose to vote for the guy. I fear that the Dems have correctly identified Tillis as the more likely to unseat Hagan though. The tough call here is going to be how to deal with the primary. If I were confident that Brannon could unseat Hagan, I would certainly cast my primary vote for him.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 11:25 AM (aDwsi)

231 By the way, possession of lockpick tools by non-licensed locksmiths is actually illegal in certain areas.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 11:25 AM (TIIx5)

232 That pro-Obamacare group I was rumored to have contributed to...Lies! All damn lies!!

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 22, 2014 11:25 AM (thLL8)

233 "Wait til those temp workers file their 1099-MISC taxes next year. That "self employment" tax is a killer.... and it gives two shits less how little you made." =============== I temped for years, for many different agencies. Each one gave me a W2, not a 1099. Temps tend to be employees of the temp agency, not independent contractors.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 22, 2014 11:26 AM (/AHDz)

234 229 zombie at April 22, 2014 03:25 PM (mizYg)

hard man damn another side job gone...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:26 AM (TE35l)

235 ObamaCare is Back!! The "debate is over" And, one more thing, that shit sandwich you are munching on tastes yummy.

Posted by: Roy at April 22, 2014 11:26 AM (VndSC)

236 "They have done everything they can to delay Obamacare. And while polls aren't the best indicator of where the public is, they still show Obamacare underwater. Not one Dem is running on it. Why should we assume it will be popular in 2016?"

Ssssssssssssssssssssss.

Posted by: Fuse On The Employer Mandate Bomb at April 22, 2014 11:27 AM (noWW6)

237 231 IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 03:25 PM (TIIx5)

and THAT is why you sign up for a locksmithing course online...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:27 AM (TE35l)

238 Radio ad on now. Waiting for the disclaimer. It's all about Tillis' staffers having an affair and getting golden parachutes of 19 thousand dollars. Ad paid for by Kay Hagan. WTF?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 11:27 AM (ZshNr)

239

220 -

 

Bingo!  Social Security is the  template. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2014 11:27 AM (TOk1P)

240 The election of 2010 is evidence, maybe 2014 will be too. And while I would agree that the election of 2012 is not really evidence in support of my proposition, I certainly do not think it was evidence in support of Obamacare. The 2012 election was rigged. Of that there can be little doubt.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 22, 2014 11:27 AM (0HooB)

241 "This! Career choice is no longer an option in the new Amerika." =============== Right-wing nonsense! Thanks to ObamaCare, you can be a painter, a writer...

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 22, 2014 11:27 AM (/AHDz)

242 I suspect it will be as popular as Social Security. Which is to say- those who are currently receiving it will defend it to the death (most of them, anyway) while those who are instead paying for it will be forced to defend themselves against cries of "H8R!" or some such if they dare suggest, maybe, it's not working as it was sold, and maybe it needs to be scrapped. ---- I agree those who receive it will be big defenders of it, but you cannot believe it will be as popular as social security. There is zero evidence of that. Social security's popularity is built on the fact that we all pay into and will all receive something out of it. So far, that is basically what has happened, though nothing is guaranteed. Obamacare's premise is nothing like that.

Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 11:27 AM (gmeXX)

243 Orcah Winfrey may be an apparatchik pig, but I have little sympathy for her stepmommy having to move out of her million dollar home that she got to live in for no other reason than being Orcah's stepmommy. #ProblemsOfTheOnePercent

Posted by: Citizen X at April 22, 2014 11:28 AM (7ObY1)

244 They run them 2 feet above the framing. Cut higher. Posted by: tangonine ------------------------------- Except..., the last two houses I have lived in, the distribution was through the attic..., downward.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 11:28 AM (aDwsi)

245 Emergency ingress? Small shaped charge.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 11:28 AM (aDwsi)

246 Drudge has US military planners making googoo eyes at new Russian body armor, AK-74 loads and infantry helmets on display in Ukraine.

Posted by: MTF at April 22, 2014 03:24 PM (LISuA)



Send them P90's with the high velocity 5.7x28 rounds.  That should give the Russians pause.



Posted by: EC at April 22, 2014 11:28 AM (GQ8sn)

247 As rick and I are discussing our criminal genius, some of you may want to take note: I can show up at your house while you're at work. Pull up. Extract my help and extension cords, cut through your walls, enter, exit with my take, and your neighbors are just going to think the repair crew showed up. Thieving is easy.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:28 AM (x3YFz)

248 RIP Pat Tillman April 22, 2004. Sorry if it's been mention 50 times already.

Posted by: eleven at April 22, 2014 11:29 AM (GXZgZ)

249 243 Citizen X at April 22, 2014 03:28 PM (7ObY1)

My dream scenario for the Orca Winfried family is a lot like a Giants/Jets super bowl....

it involves SMOD and a 1972 bottle of Chablis....


Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:29 AM (TE35l)

250 Radio ad on now. Waiting for the disclaimer. It's all about Tillis' staffers having an affair and getting golden parachutes of 19 thousand dollars. Ad paid for by Kay Hagan. WTF? Posted by: Lincolntf --------------------- As I said, they get a twofer. Weaken Tillis in the primary, and potentially weaken him in the General Election.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 11:30 AM (aDwsi)

251 Bingo! Social Security is the template. ---- Then they didn't follow it very well. Nothing about Obamacare is remotely like Social Security - from the way it was passed to the way it was designed.

Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 11:30 AM (gmeXX)

252 while those who are instead paying for it will be forced to defend themselves against cries of "H8R!" or some such if they dare suggest, maybe, it's not working as it was sold, and maybe it needs to be scrapped. Bring it. Water off a duck's back.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2014 11:30 AM (cB3Ay)

253 Thieving is easy. Yup. It's easy for the real pros.

Posted by: eleven at April 22, 2014 11:31 AM (GXZgZ)

254

214 -

 

By  the way, SH, I'm not saying you are wrong.  I hope you are not, and I am, but I think their game plan is the expectation that they won't be running  on defending  Obamacare in  '16, and that the matter will indeed, be settled by then. 

 

Where  my pessimism comes in is that I fully expect, even if the Rs win big this year, they will be willing accomplices in the implementation, and by '16, there won't be anything  regarding   Obamacare on which  they will be able to run. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2014 11:31 AM (TOk1P)

255 "Obamacare's premise is nothing like that." =============== ObamaCare's premise is worse because of the subsidies, and those receiving the subsidies will probably fight to keep them even more aggressively than a social security recipient might.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 22, 2014 11:31 AM (/AHDz)

256 We have had a number of squatters moving into houses for sale, around here. It is apparently very difficult to get them out once they are in the home and some of them have fake titles or quitclaim deeds too. There were even people here running classes on how to do this.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 22, 2014 11:31 AM (+0txR)

257 "By the way, possession of lockpick tools by non-licensed locksmiths is actually illegal in certain areas."

And in damn near any area, police can give you the Haul Of Justice if you are found in possession of a "burglary tool", the definition of which is often highly subjective. I would bet virtually all shoe leather cops on the beat would consider a pick set to be such.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 22, 2014 11:31 AM (noWW6)

258 Why do they think I'll be sol was to beat Brannon, though? Because new face, I guess, but he makes all the right Tea Party sounds. I'm looking forward to seeing them both on TV tonight.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 11:32 AM (ZshNr)

259 @233. I did the contractor thing for a while, and the temp thing for a few months. Both were completely different, though equally horrible. For instance, the temp agency sent me to a job that said they wanted a handyman, which turned out that what they wanted an actual fully-credentialed electrician who was also a plumber. I got a call that night telling me not to bother showing up the next day, and a call from the temp agency the next day asking me why I didn't go. You can't make this up. One day's pay, and I was done with that agency. Then the contractor thing... 6 months of working every day but Sunday, 12 hours a day, for ten bucks an hour. Nice paychecks, but grueling lifestyle. Then the work dries up and you've got nothing, and if you get sick, you just have to suck it up or die. I'm back to traditional labor again, but only part-time since it's all I can get. Barely even staying fed some months, the only good ones are around the Christmas season and after taxtime.

Posted by: Cato at April 22, 2014 11:32 AM (4cRuH)

260 So easy

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 11:32 AM (ZshNr)

261 ObamaCare's premise is worse because of the subsidies, and those receiving the subsidies will probably fight to keep them even more aggressively than a social security recipient might. I still can't see that aspect of ObamaCide standing up in court.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 22, 2014 11:32 AM (0HooB)

262 Yeah being a contractor is great. No benefits, no paid holidays, no sick days, no vacation, treated like a second-class citizen in the workplace, and you have to pay self-employment tax. Plus you can be let go with little to no notice. I'm a software test contractor. Compared to the FTEs my bennies suck. But I get to leave my work at work. The FTEs are still calling each other after midnight talking about work stuff. I see emails at 2am coming from them. I also don't have to do any of the goals or job metrics stuff they do. I sit in the same building, using the same equipment, answer to the same boss. I make great money and get great experience. I'd love to be a FTE actually, but all the job listings I see for the company attract FTEs who have as much or more experience than I do.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 22, 2014 11:33 AM (gtjN1)

263 Posted by: B at April 22, 2014 03:18 PM (Pson9)

Do you work upstairs from me?  There's a call center up there, hires only Obamavoters. Turns over about 75% of their staff every two months.  Helluva fashion show, and at 4:30 sharp there's a stampede to the parking lot like school letting out for the summer but with more shrieking.

The woman who runs the crappy deli was bitching the other day about their employees running up a lunch tab and not coming back to pay.  Derp de derp.


I temped for years, for many different agencies. Each one gave me a W2, not a 1099. Temps tend to be employees of the temp agency, not independent contractors.

While I've only been a W2 contractor, I've worked with a lot of 1099 contractors.  I assume it varies by industry.

Posted by: HR at April 22, 2014 11:33 AM (ZKzrr)

264 if you are found in possession of a "burglary tool", the definition of which is often highly subjective. I would bet virtually all shoe leather cops on the beat would consider a pick set to be such. ----------------------- Objection! A small shaped charge is not a 'tool'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 11:33 AM (aDwsi)

265 BurtTC - I share your concern regarding the GOP.

Posted by: SH at April 22, 2014 11:34 AM (gmeXX)

266 264 Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 03:33 PM (aDwsi)

Have a FOP and Occutard Wall Street bumper sticker...you're golden

Posted by: sven10077 at April 22, 2014 11:34 AM (TE35l)

267 But why should someone be denied a job because they have a crappy credit score? Depends on the job. Often, workers in a call-center have access to customers' financial information (including credit-card info). Someone with a low credit score is seen as a security risk. but you cannot believe it will be as popular as social security. I don't believe Social Security is as popular as Social Security. I think, if it's not destroyed soon, 404Care will join Social Security as part of the 3rd Rail of politics.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 11:35 AM (PYAXX)

268 225 "10 of those will fail the background check for credit. Holy shit, some of these folks have credit scores in the double digits. "
================

But why should someone be denied a job because they have a crappy credit score? When I was younger and dumber, I had a lousy credit score. As I matured, I got more responsible, and now I have a great credit score.

Either way, I was as good a worker then as I am now.
***

Tell you what, I'll find one of these guys with multiple credit card abandonments plus various other bills up for collections and you give him your SSN, bank account numbers, and other personal information so he can set you up for a loan.  Who knows? Maybe you'll be OK.

That aside, I do get where you're coming from. I was there too when I was younger.  The difference is you and I didn't treat it as a way of life and "got more responsible" as you put it.

Posted by: B at April 22, 2014 11:35 AM (Pson9)

269 RIP Pat Tillman April 22, 2004. Posted by: eleven at April 22, 2014 03:29 PM (GXZgZ) My prayers are for the guy on the M240 that shot him 3 times in the head. Pat's dead, no bringing him back and you can't pray for dead, they're where they are. That poor guy who was just frightened and doing what he was trained to do only to discover he'd killed a friendly? It's him I pray for.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:35 AM (x3YFz)

270  I will deign to tune in to the debate tonight, then maybe I'll have a better idea. Listening to someone tell me what they know I want to hear never impresses me, so campaign ads are just a subject of curiosity, debates sometimes actually reveal character, ability.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 03:19 PM (ZshNr)

 

 

---------------------------------------------

 

btw.  Apologies for the mistaken identity.

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 11:35 AM (trhm+)

271

251 -

 

I  disagree.  Social Security was very unpopular in many circles  when it passed, and it was sold as pensions for orphans and widows. 

 

The poor downtrodden, in other words. 

 

Once it got passed, they have incrementally added to it over the years, until now essentially everyone (or  as close to everyone as need be)  depends on it to some extent.  And if you DARE touch one iota of it, or dare to reform it, why that means you hate widows and orphans. 

 

We'll all be Obamacarites eventually.  I am 99% sure of it. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2014 11:36 AM (TOk1P)

272 Oh we also have burglars using the home repair scam. They have a large truck labeled with some sort of service (plumbing, heating, etc.) and pull up in the driveway while the homeowners are at work and then break in, open the garage door, and proceed to steal as much as they can. They usually have someone watching a neighborhood for a while to get a feel for the comings and goings of the residents and then pick from there.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 22, 2014 11:36 AM (+0txR)

273 Objection! A small shaped charge is not a 'tool'. Terrorist!

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/s][/i][/b][/s] at April 22, 2014 11:37 AM (gtjN1)

274 Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 22, 2014 03:36 PM (+0txR) The popular one in North TX right now seems to be pretending to be exterminators.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 11:38 AM (PYAXX)

275 "Bad job scene due to Obamacare?  Never heard of it."

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at April 22, 2014 11:38 AM (q7DBM)

276 Emergency ingress? Small shaped charge. Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 22, 2014 03:28 PM (aDwsi) Note to self: never include Mike on Epic Thieving Crew.

Posted by: tangonine at April 22, 2014 11:38 AM (x3YFz)

277 Objection! A small shaped charge is not a 'tool'. Small? Wussy. Go big or go home.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 11:38 AM (TIIx5)

278

261 -

 

"It's a tax."

 

-  Dred Justice Roberts

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at April 22, 2014 11:38 AM (TOk1P)

279 Not a problem.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 22, 2014 11:39 AM (ZshNr)

280 Nude one.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 22, 2014 11:39 AM (TIIx5)

281 Compared to the FTEs my bennies suck.

Before Obamacare the freedom to be able to take as much time off as you liked--a whole week at Christmas and a few months between gigs--was a thousand percent more valuable than having the shitty group plan and no sick days or time for holidays I have now.

FTE's good if you have a family to provide for and a spouse to take care of your food, clothing, and housekeeping needs.  Sucks ass if you don't.

Posted by: HR at April 22, 2014 11:40 AM (ZKzrr)

282 I don't believe Social Security is as popular as Social Security. I think, if it's not destroyed soon, 404Care will join Social Security as part of the 3rd Rail of politics.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at April 22, 2014 03:35 PM (PYAXX)

 

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

 

I'm sure when the  dems look through their  retrospectoscopes, they'll realize that they should have implemented Ocare as soon as it was passed when people still had money and jobs.

 

But they fucked up.  They waited.  And now, for many that have lost savings, jobs, credit, their homes, etc., Ocare is just another government shackle weighing them down. 

 

Ocare won't survive.  Poeple have  found out how much it really costs.

Posted by: Soona at April 22, 2014 11:41 AM (trhm+)

283 Temps tend to be employees of the temp agency, not independent contractors.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 22, 2014 03:26 PM (/AHDz)


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I stand corrected.  I just assumed the temp agencies hired them as 1099's.


My oldest works contruction and is a 1099 employee.   My younger son did a paid internship this year and was suprised by the self employment tax bite being a 1099.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 22, 2014 11:44 AM (nELVU)

284 207?
T9?
Getting into your own stuff is pretty easy.... basically you make a small mock-up of various locks & practice on them until you get the feel of jinking tumblers & the quik-pix gun. A few squirts of graphite ( from the auto parts store ) often helps.

Then, there's the Sawzall....

Posted by: backhoe at April 22, 2014 11:46 AM (ULH4o)

285 "Before Obamacare the freedom to be able to take as much time off as you liked--a whole week at Christmas and a few months between gigs--was a thousand percent more valuable than having the shitty group plan and no sick days or time for holidays I have now." =============== Yup. Obama and the Democrats ruined that, apparently forever. Bastards, all of them.

Posted by: Kensington (@NYKensington) at April 22, 2014 12:25 PM (/AHDz)

286 I've run into SO many New York City "useful idiot" liberal freelancers who say that their chief employers have been keeping them to less than 30 hours a week, and I always shrug and say, "That's the Obamacare effect."

Interesting, they don't bother to deny it.

Posted by: Beverly at April 22, 2014 12:48 PM (WhjEf)

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