January 27, 2014
— Ace I hear nothing but good things.
So far, the reviews of the film, which went live on Netflix Friday, have been remarkable for their consistency. Mitt, we are told in one identical article after another, reveals a shockingly likable “other side” to the candidate. It “humanizes” him. It “pulls back the curtain,” or “goes behind the scenes,” to “reveal a fuller, more intimate portrait” of a man who proved elusive during the election. If only this movie had been released during the campaign, many have argued, it might have changed the outcome of the race. If only voters had been able to meet the Real Mitt Romney....
As I watched the movie with my wife and another Mormon couple on Friday night, I began to take note of every time something on the screen provoked a sympathetic sigh from our small audience. It happened when one of Mitt’s grandkids jumps on top of him in the snow; when the ever-frugal Mitt opts to keep his old sturdy winter gloves instead of new ones that were gifted to him (“These work great!”); when a tearful Ann Romney kneels in a hotel on the eve of the 2008 New Hampshire primary and leads the family in prayer, telling the Lord that their “motives are pure” and asking for strength to endure the daily persecutions of campaign life; when, upon realizing he’s going to lose the election, Mitt immediately begins consoling his family members, worried that the failed campaign may harm his sons’ careers.
When Mitt is shown, hours before a big debate, diligently cleaning up after a trash can that has tipped over on a windy hotel balcony, someone watching with me remarked, “He’s such a good guy.”
And when Mitt, upon seeing the 2008 New Hampshire primary returns, stifles a curse word by adopting a silly falsetto and exclaiming, “That’s not good!” my wife turned to me and said, “Oh my gosh, Mitt Romney is my dad.”
I have to watch this at some point. I'm afraid it will make me depressed.
Speaking of movies that depress me, there's a movie thing that's been annoying me for a while.
It's this: Action movies and horror movies frequently require a hero, villain, or monster to suddenly jump out at someone, to take him by surprise. Fine.
But what bothers me is that character who suddenly appears often was invisible to the camera -- that is, he was off-screen, out of shot, outside the outer edge of the frame of the camera's picture -- but he was not actually hidden behind anything existing in the world of the film itself.
That is, he's hidden from the movie audience because the camera was deliberately avoiding him, but if you consider the state of affairs from the point of view of every character in the scene, he would have been right out in the open.
I see this a lot. It annoys me a lot. I see characters pop out of nowhere, but when you look closely at the physical space the scene takes place it, it becomes apparent they must have literally popped out of nowhere, because there is no convenient door-jamb or Chinese room divider they could have been hiding behind before jumping into view of the camera.
I mentioned this in an email to the cobs on Friday. Gabe brought up this scene from The Dark Knight, in which Batman literally materializes -- through magic, I guess -- among five different people, in the middle of open space, with no hiding places at all.
Skip to 3:00 to see Joker menacing Rachel Dawes -- no one in the middle of the room except for the Joker, three goons, and Rachel Dawes; the rest of the party is way back from them, standing away from the center group -- and then Batman teleports in.
Where did he come from? Was he hiding in Rachel Dawes' chooch the whole time?
Now you might say, "Well, that's Batman. He's always doing things like that. Plus he has League of Shadow training, which, who knows, maybe includes deployment of hallucinogenic gases that make people not see you or something."
But they don't just do it with Batman. Even minor characters with no names and no skills can achieve this trick when a director is too lazy to set the scene properly.
Lethal Weapon 4 was horrible and you know that. But I'm posting this just to illustrate this movie cliche. Right in the beginning, a nameless thug emerges out of... nowhere to put a gun to Roger's head.
Moments later in the scene you see the rest of the room. Where was that guy hiding before he burst into frame?
Russ says this happens in the Tom Cruise movie Oblivion, too (and a hundred other movies), but I haven't watched that yet.
Gabe notes that TV Tropes deems this one aspect of a broader phenomenon called Offscreen Teleportation, a movie conceit which posits that if a character is off-camera for even a second, he can and probably will move to anywhere else by the time the camera next takes notice of him, regardless of whether this is plausible or even possible.
Anyway, this annoys me, and it should annoy you too.
Please note your own movie annoyances, if you like.
Oh One More Thing: I re-watched It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World last night.
It was... well, kind of not as good as you're hoping. I remember feeling that the first time I saw it, when I was fairly young.
And here's something else I felt this time that I felt then, too: The whole Fire Ladder sequence at the end is supposed to be funny, and it sort of is, but it's something else, too. It's... horrifying, actually.
It reminds me of the gory special effects you'd see in movies like Rollercoaster (mad bomber blows up roller coasters and sends cars full of people flying) or The Fury (psychic psychopaths use mental powers to cause... rollercoaster cars to go flying off the tracks, killing people... This was a popular way to movie-kill people in the mid-seventies, it turns out).
There's something just unsettling about it, about watching that ladder sway and throw people off of it. It moves sort of plausibly, as we'd expect out-of-control, hydraulic-powered heavy machinery to move. A machine moving like that is a realistic threat to human life.
And yet it seems possessed of a deliberative power-- that it's choosing what to do with each character. Almost like it's an instrument of a Vengeful God assigning a painful torment to each of the characters.
Anyone else feel like that?
Or is it just funny?
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Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 01:43 PM (lM/7U)
Posted by: AMDG at January 27, 2014 01:43 PM (t7OO0)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 01:44 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 27, 2014 01:46 PM (TJ8HB)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 27, 2014 01:47 PM (At8tV)
How exactly could it be worse than election night, 2012? Mitt Romney was the most decent man to run for President in this and the last century, with the arguable exception of Ronald Reagan. My only consolation is in knowing that whatever the short term reverses, the idiots who defeated him will enjoy decades of grinding misery.
Posted by: pep at January 27, 2014 01:48 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at January 27, 2014 01:48 PM (Kiz9M)
And it's not as though his failed campaign was going to massively harm THE ENTIRE GODDAMNED COUNTRY or anything. No, he's worried about the mob of mini-Mitts being unable to get jobs as management consultants.
Thanks again for foisting this wet firecracker on us, Beltway bunch.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 01:48 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: steevy at January 27, 2014 01:48 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: The Libertines Who Stayed Home at January 27, 2014 01:48 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2014 01:49 PM (+cx5n)
Also, how in a rom/com there always has to be some stupid misunderstanding that breaks apart the main two love interests until they reunite in the end. Every. Single. Time. Annoying.
As for Mitt, I was a very reluctant voter until the convention. It was the personal stories about how good of a man he is that made me feel really good about voting. It made him "human" for me, whereas before he was sort of this Mitt-bot. I never really got the grasp of who he was as a person until that night. I wish more people would have gotten to see that, but if I remember correctly, many of the news stations who covered the convention either talked over that part or didn't air a lot of it.
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 27, 2014 01:49 PM (GrtrJ)
That I've figured out the plot in the first 10 minutes of pretty much every movie I see. Brilliant? No. Hollywood is on autopilot. A chimp can figure it out.
Posted by: pep at January 27, 2014 01:49 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 27, 2014 01:49 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 01:49 PM (lM/7U)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2014 01:50 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 01:50 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 01:50 PM (aIKFR)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2014 01:50 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: redenzo at January 27, 2014 01:50 PM (WCnJW)
Yes, as a matter of fact. I was the stunt double for that scene.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 27, 2014 01:50 PM (9F2c1)
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 01:51 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 01:51 PM (lM/7U)
Thanks again for foisting this wet firecracker on us, Beltway bunch.
He should have immediately offered personal consolation to every Republican voter in the country.
Posted by: pep at January 27, 2014 01:51 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2014 01:51 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2014 01:51 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 01:51 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 27, 2014 01:51 PM (U75ue)
Posted by: steevy at January 27, 2014 01:51 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2014 01:52 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 01:52 PM (t3UFN)
Bob Dole wants you to know that he's first in line if prior contenders are being talked up. Bob Dole is ready to answer his party's call. Remember, it's a new Bob Dole for a new century. I'm Bob Dole and I approve this message.
Posted by: Bob Dole at January 27, 2014 01:52 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2014 01:52 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 01:52 PM (lM/7U)
Posted by: DangerGirl at January 27, 2014 01:52 PM (GrtrJ)
Really have to keep your head on a swivel.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 01:52 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 27, 2014 01:52 PM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at January 27, 2014 01:53 PM (9Bdcz)
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Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 01:53 PM (C3Wjb)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 01:54 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at January 27, 2014 01:54 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 27, 2014 01:54 PM (T2V/1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 01:55 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:55 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at January 27, 2014 01:55 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 01:55 PM (aIKFR)
Posted by: Stu-22 at January 27, 2014 01:55 PM (AiYlm)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 27, 2014 01:55 PM (t3UFN)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 01:55 PM (lM/7U)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at January 27, 2014 01:55 PM (WdbF7)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 01:55 PM (RJMhd)
That's Random Asian Nameless Goon #4. Soon he'll graduate to Random Asian guy you've seen in every movie where there are Asians. Then Rene Russo will break a chair on his head too.
Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 27, 2014 01:56 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 27, 2014 01:56 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:56 PM (+VxsD)
My absolute biggest pet peeve is when directors get lazy in action movies and just blurr evey fight scene by shaking and whooshing the camera around.
The Bourne movies are the epitome of this. You can't see anything that's happening.
It has completely turned me off from action movies altogether.
Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2014 01:56 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 01:56 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 01:56 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 27, 2014 01:56 PM (pginn)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 27, 2014 01:56 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: deadrody at January 27, 2014 01:57 PM (+Dpo7)
Cheer up. We got the SCoaMF and Mooch.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 01:57 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 01:57 PM (lM/7U)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 27, 2014 01:57 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 01:57 PM (aIKFR)
Samuel L. Jackson playing Samuel L. Jackson in every movie he's ever been in.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 27, 2014 01:57 PM (wjJGE)
Alan Arkin playing Yossarian in every movie he's ever been in.
Hah....so true. It doesn't really bother me though. He does a good Yossarian.
Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2014 01:57 PM (fsLdt)
It was never going to happen. We have the MFM. That's all you need to know.
And, yes, while Romney wasn't my ideal candidate by a long shot, he was and is a decent man. What a shame that decency rarely has a decent shot at high public office.
Well done, 52%-ers. You rehired a criminal when you could have had a relative saint.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 01:58 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Toni, Tone, Tone at January 27, 2014 01:58 PM (Kiz9M)
Yeah, tell me about it. It's annoying as hell.
Posted by: Commissioner Gordon at January 27, 2014 01:58 PM (JACCP)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 01:58 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2014 01:58 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 01:58 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 27, 2014 01:58 PM (O9xia)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at January 27, 2014 01:58 PM (HsTG8)
Posted by: KC at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (i7KmQ)
Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (mETGQ)
He used the technique to scare the audience. The tension would be building, the audience would be waiting for the shoe to drop, and a bus suddenly enters the frame from the left with a loud squealing of brakes. The audience would jump. And the character would casually get on. Then he'd ratchet the tension right back up.
Over the years, there have been a lot of imitators of varied quality, and "missing the point" is always a popular exercise.
Posted by: Luke at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (2MUaT)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (+VxsD)
I hate what I call the A-Team effect. That is where no one is hit by at least one of a hundred bullets hitting the car.
I think the worst of this was in one of the best action movies. The construction site car chase / gun battle scene in Taken was useless and almost ruined the movie for me. It recovered nicely though.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ace at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 27, 2014 01:59 PM (GZX41)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 27, 2014 02:00 PM (pginn)
We get it Joss Whedon, you're a sensitive guy. Message received.
Just.fucking.stop.
Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 02:00 PM (cxs6V)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 02:00 PM (38LLM)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 02:00 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: steevy at January 27, 2014 02:00 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 02:00 PM (aIKFR)
Stallone and Arnold's recent movie ESCAPE PLAN has in it every single Annoyance that exists.
This is shocking.
Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2014 02:00 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 02:01 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: Sonny Corleone at January 27, 2014 02:01 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at January 27, 2014 02:01 PM (a8eFL)
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:01 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2014 02:01 PM (oFCZn)
Team Romney never even had a serious game plan in place in the event that it came down to a photo finish. Whereas the Democrats had a team of high-powered attorneys in the starting blocks, and pre-positioned car trunks full of "found" ballots ready to roll, in every potential near-miss state.
Everyone talks about how "pleasant" and "decent" Mitt is. Well, he's a pleasant decent guy who failed. Fuck that.
Getting tired of milquetoast gentleman losers. Those polite Marquess of Queensberry rules need to be shitcanned when fighting an opposition whose rule book is co-authored by Boss Tweed and Saul Alinsky.
I want some hardened whiskey drinking streetfighters from now on. Someone who will engage in vicious curb stompage of the opposition and laugh cruelly about it afterwards.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 02:02 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: logprof at January 27, 2014 02:02 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Sonny Corleone at January 27, 2014 06:01 PM (DmNpO)
That you were able to get out of your car was bull crap.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:02 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: steevy at January 27, 2014 02:02 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 02:02 PM (lM/7U)
Posted by: Sonny Corleone at January 27, 2014 02:02 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: booger at January 27, 2014 02:02 PM (xRDdL)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 02:02 PM (C3Wjb)
ENOUGH is ENOUGH!!! I have HAD IT with this MOTHERF***ING CLICHES in these MOTHERF***ING MOVIES!
Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at January 27, 2014 02:03 PM (9F2c1)
He was hiding behind the camera. Duh.
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 27, 2014 02:03 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2014 02:03 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 02:03 PM (aIKFR)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 27, 2014 02:03 PM (pginn)
Posted by: lindafell at January 27, 2014 02:03 PM (PGO8C)
Posted by: The Other Bob Dole at January 27, 2014 02:03 PM (uYvZb)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 02:03 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 27, 2014 02:04 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 02:04 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 02:04 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 02:04 PM (MMC8r)
1.shaky cam
2.shaky cam
3.shaky cam
Me too. This ruined "The Blair Witch Project" for me (as well as the characters being absolutely clueless about the woods and yelling at each other the whole time). I started rooting for the witch.
Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson at January 27, 2014 02:05 PM (9F2c1)
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at January 27, 2014 02:05 PM (+VxsD)
Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 02:05 PM (lM/7U)
Posted by: Iblis at January 27, 2014 02:05 PM (9221z)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 06:03 PM (8ZskC)
I don't think Vito Corelone would have appreciated Michael killing his son.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:05 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: MikeH at January 27, 2014 02:05 PM (bRL1M)
Posted by: The Big Book of Movie Conventions at January 27, 2014 02:05 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2014 02:05 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: YIKES! at January 27, 2014 02:05 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Dr Spank at January 27, 2014 02:06 PM (38LLM)
Posted by: The Lost Dutchman at January 27, 2014 02:06 PM (9F2c1)
Posted by: steevy at January 27, 2014 02:07 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2014 02:07 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: A knife opening an envolope at January 27, 2014 02:07 PM (/FnUH)
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 06:05 PM (m2CN7)
He wanted his son to be a Senator. He knew he would turn on his own for his own ego.
Posted by: Clemenza at January 27, 2014 02:07 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Johnathan Winters at January 27, 2014 02:07 PM (pginn)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 02:07 PM (MMC8r)
And the lead in to the Mitt Romney Watch-a-thon? Sharknado!
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 02:07 PM (eHIJJ)
Uuluaalualaajaauaauajaa~!
Shut.the.fuck.up.
Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 27, 2014 02:07 PM (cxs6V)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 02:08 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 02:08 PM (P6QsQ)
Since we are talking old comedies, I mention again that I think one of the funniest scenes ever was Jerry Lewis in the locker room before his fight and his fight in the movie Sailor Beware.
It holds up today.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:08 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 02:08 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 27, 2014 02:08 PM (bCEmE)
***
How about filming that awful process of embindering women?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 05:59 PM (DmNpO
Oh yeah, that's right, he put those women in binders too.
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 27, 2014 02:09 PM (nTgAI)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 02:09 PM (RJMhd)
The audience at Sundance I saw it with was actually quite pro Mitt, but I saw it in Ogden, away from the uber lib Park City crowd. When Obama talked during the debates, right before the infamous Candy Crowley moment, there were a bunch of shouts of "You Lie!" that burst out from around the theater, was great. Wish I had been able to get tickets to the screenings with Mitt and Ann actually in the audience. Classy as ever, his comment about the doc is no comment; he's just letting it speak for itself.
For good or ill, it was apparent in the doc that politics in and of themselves were not the all consuming thing for the Romneys; at the end they would survive a loss, go on and live their lives. Whereas I don't think Obama's family could have survived that, I don't know if Hillary can in 2016 if she loses. Some people are just 100% political animals, Romney is not. Makes him a better human being but a worse politician.
Just a great family, nice to get a peek behind the scenes. One of the sons, commenting about how the elevator in the garage would be used against them, says he wished he could say "It was for my mom's MS, you A-hole." Hah, some fire there. Will be required viewing I think for any fam thinking of entering politics, help them decide if the sacrifices to their fam are worth it.
Posted by: LizLem at January 27, 2014 02:09 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Michael Corleone at January 27, 2014 02:10 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2014 02:10 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 02:10 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 27, 2014 02:10 PM (P7/19)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 02:11 PM (4QSOR)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2014 02:11 PM (LWu6U)
I think the failed campaign they were referring to here was his loss in the '08 primary. Not the '12 general election.
Posted by: Chris M at January 27, 2014 02:11 PM (k3w9p)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 02:11 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 27, 2014 02:11 PM (g1DWB)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 27, 2014 02:12 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2014 02:12 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 02:12 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at January 27, 2014 02:13 PM (uYvZb)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 02:13 PM (C3Wjb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 02:13 PM (DmNpO)
I also got pissed as a little kid that the cameras on Star Trek used to follow the characters around on the planet.
I guess it's no surprise I grew up skeptical.
And yes, the ladder chooses who lives and dies.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at January 27, 2014 02:13 PM (pgQxn)
Posted by: eleven at January 27, 2014 02:13 PM (fsLdt)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 02:14 PM (C3Wjb)
Posted by: YIKES! at January 27, 2014 02:14 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: Nathan R Jessup Obama at January 27, 2014 02:14 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 02:14 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Jodi Arias at January 27, 2014 02:14 PM (DmNpO)
It's just like what Mitt was worried about in the debates -- he knew the press would declare them *at best* at tie no matter how well he did and/or how badly Obama did (NO ONE expected Obama to tank the first one so badly such that the press couldn't spin it as even a tie). Heck, even now people on the RIGHT will complain that Mitt "stop debating" Obama after that first one, when in fact he "won" both of those debates (yes, even the 2nd one when Candy inserted herself into the proceedings -- giggling, laughing, flat out lying and yelling "Check the tape!" isn't a "winning" debate performance, except in Obot-land).
Posted by: Dancing Queen at January 27, 2014 02:14 PM (gKXfC)
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 06:01 PM (m2CN7)
This. He was probably the most qualified candidate since Ike. Romney wasn't "my guy", but he would have made a very good president.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 27, 2014 02:14 PM (wcvVw)
Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 02:15 PM (P6QsQ)
Ace, all eyes in the room are facing center staring at Joker. If Batman comes out of a concealed door at the side of the room (we know the building has them), he could sprint to the center of the room in a couple of seconds and the crowd would hide his approach up to the very last couple of steps at which point he is thrashing Thug 1.
Posted by: Prndl at January 27, 2014 02:15 PM (2Ynt1)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 06:13 PM (C3Wjb)
Yeah, doesn't really happen too much nowadays with modern fuel injection and batteries.
Posted by: Nathan R Jessup Obama at January 27, 2014 02:15 PM (Pr6hk)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (Qgbkq)
Posted by: zombie at January 27, 2014 05:51 PM (+cx5n)
Political fanfic? Needs moar cutlasses. Ugh I had liberal friends that read a ton of political fanfic in 2012, weird Romney/Santorum type pairings, or Romney/Obama, you are bringing back horrible flashbacks right now.
Posted by: LizLem at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (WK8VM)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (C3Wjb)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: The Ninja in the Link at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:08 PM (DmNpO)
I don't disagree, I just think that Michael killing Fredo shows that he moved from the type of Godfather his father was to something more evil and devious. I think Vito was shown more in a positive light. From his beginnings to helping the less fortunate to not wanting to deal drugs to being shot by bad guys and recovering to be a kind grandfather.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (RZ8pf)
I mentioned this in an email to the cobs on Friday. Gabe brought up this scene from The Dark Knight, in which Batman literally materializes -- through magic, I guess -- among five different people, in the middle of open space, with no hiding places at all.
Really Batman is about the only character you would want doing this, because its sort of established behavior for him, to appear and disappear suddenly. Though probably this scene is the worst instance of it.
The Biggest and I do mean Biggest offender of this behavior was the Cloverfield monster.
Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2014 02:16 PM (LI48c)
I now spend more time looking for movies to watch than actually watching movies.
Posted by: 13times at January 27, 2014 02:17 PM (fGPLK)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 06:14 PM (C3Wjb)
Right. I've always found that a bit unrea
Posted by: General John Sedgwick at January 27, 2014 02:17 PM (9F2c1)
*******
#$^#! Cash for Clunkers....
Posted by: Girl-Chasing Knifey Stabby Guy at January 27, 2014 02:17 PM (vgIRn)
Posted by: YIKES! at January 27, 2014 02:17 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: The Big Book of Movie Conventions at January 27, 2014 02:17 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 02:18 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Jodi Arias at January 27, 2014 02:18 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 02:18 PM (C3Wjb)
Ermm...maybe.
Posted by: NBC Dateline at January 27, 2014 02:18 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 02:19 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: X at January 27, 2014 02:19 PM (KHo8t)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 27, 2014 02:19 PM (zfY+H)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 02:19 PM (4QSOR)
Posted by: The Big Book of Movie Conventions at January 27, 2014 06:17 PM (8ZskC)
No Mister Bond, I expect you to die.
Posted by: Auric Goldfinger at January 27, 2014 02:19 PM (Pr6hk)
Movie Annoyance #2: Too Much Weird, Just For The Sake Of Weird. Though, to be fair, this is more of a TV series annoyance. Lost would be a prime example. People crashing on some island. They have to figure out how to survive, how to organize themselves, etc. A little bit of mysterious occurrences would be fine. But, with this annoying fucking show, they just kept on adding in additional layers of weird. The stuff I was interested in, how people would really behave when they found themselves in that situation got short shrift because instead they were constantly having to react to the new level of weird. Plus, they would add some level of weird, and then ignore it for weeks at a time, like everyone just forgot about it, because there was some new weird to react to.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 27, 2014 02:19 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: Big T Party at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (tE2TK)
Some mentioned the 'shaky cam' upthread.
I hate that too.
Why do they do that?
I mean...it makes sense when they are trying to show that it's an amateur doing the filming, like with a phone cam.
But when there is shaky action going on in a movie where there's no reason for it...it just reminds me that there *is* a camera.
It destroys the illusion.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (Wq5le)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: Gem at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (zw+pb)
THIS. Rewatched Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie over the weekend. At the very, very end, credits rolling, they interview a kid and he talkes about the vampires having cold, dead eyes. "I think they were young republicans." *eyeroll* Really Joss, was this jab necessary for life? No, but that's the point. It's never necessary but they can never resist.
Posted by: LizLem at January 27, 2014 02:20 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: TAO at January 27, 2014 02:21 PM (HGQES)
Posted by: Z Ryan at January 27, 2014 02:21 PM (fMK2m)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at January 27, 2014 02:21 PM (uYvZb)
Posted by: YIKES! at January 27, 2014 02:22 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: jmel at January 27, 2014 02:22 PM (4pZVe)
I hope that was a mannequin and not a real person.
Posted by: rdbrewer at January 27, 2014 02:22 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: moviegique at January 27, 2014 02:23 PM (7zeA4)
Posted by: Gem at January 27, 2014 02:23 PM (zw+pb)
Posted by: A knife opening an envolope at January 27, 2014 02:24 PM (/FnUH)
We might be related. What's your dad's name?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 02:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 02:25 PM (NU/ou)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 27, 2014 02:25 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: YIKES! at January 27, 2014 02:25 PM (mETGQ)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 02:25 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 02:25 PM (aIKFR)
Saw maybe ten minutes of it.
Interplanetary travelers with stand off capabilities.
That should have been a five minute movie.
You're referring to the movie Dances With Wolves II?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 27, 2014 02:25 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 02:26 PM (DmNpO)
I hate that too.
Why do they do that?
I mean...it makes sense when they are trying to show that it's an amateur doing the filming, like with a phone cam.
But when there is shaky action going on in a movie where there's no reason for it...it just reminds me that there *is* a camera.
It destroys the illusion.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2014 06:20 PM (Wq5le)
Because they want you to make it feel as if the camera is really their filming it. Which is stupid.
Apparently one of the benefits of doing films in 3D, even though I really don't care for 3D and just like to watch a movie normally, is that the 3D cameras do not do shaky cam very well if you're going for 3D effects. So the demand for films to be in 3D might help to kill the shaky cam.
Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2014 02:26 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 02:26 PM (C3Wjb)
Wow. I was really worried.
Also, bombs that have digital countdown timers at all. Points off if the bomb says BOMB on the side.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 02:26 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2014 02:26 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 02:26 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 27, 2014 02:26 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 02:27 PM (4QSOR)
Posted by: Progressive Radical Professors ® at January 27, 2014 02:27 PM (uYvZb)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 27, 2014 02:27 PM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Grammy Awards Ceremony Planning Committee at January 27, 2014 02:27 PM (tv7DV)
Posted by: wooga at January 27, 2014 02:27 PM (MyQWX)
Posted by: thunderb at January 27, 2014 02:27 PM (zOTsN)
Get Battlefield Earth.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 27, 2014 02:28 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:28 PM (m2CN7)
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Remember how you were all high on the human interest stories they were showing, the people speaking for him during the convention?*
Didn't move the needle one damned bit in his favor.
This country doesn't WANT a decent, humble man to lead them--it is chock-full of vain, selfish and small people. It does not DESERVE a decent, humble man anymore.
You can keep calling it your country or not. Whether you identify with the majority.
*Never ever, ever forget that in some 10 years of That Fucking Guy being on the national stage, not one person has ever, ever, ever spoken about even one, single fucking time That Fucking Guy has ever done one single act of kindness, service or humility. That, THAT ought to tell you how far gone things are.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2014 02:28 PM (VjL9S)
I haven't seen this new "Mitt" Documentary yet...but my question is: Why?
Why now?
This could've helped in 2012.
But why do it now?
Is he going to run again? ...Or is this being done to polish his image so that his Endorsement for 2016 will carry more weight?
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2014 02:29 PM (Wq5le)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 02:29 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Teleprompter Feed Crew at January 27, 2014 02:29 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 27, 2014 02:30 PM (rOuxT)
Posted by: --- at January 27, 2014 02:30 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 02:30 PM (aIKFR)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2014 02:30 PM (oFCZn)
Only the lips moved on your show.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 27, 2014 02:30 PM (F75MN)
Most underrated movie about trying to make a movie is Bowfinger. I thought this movie sucked the first time I tried to watch it but it grew on me and I think its great. Once again it doesn't hurt that it has Heather Graham in it.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:30 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 02:31 PM (NU/ou)
Posted by: acethepug at January 27, 2014 02:31 PM (qZX7h)
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 27, 2014 06:28 PM (VjL9S)
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A thousand times THIS ^^^^
Not one act of kindness reported in all these years. No friends relating fond memories of when the Obamas helped them out. No one has come forward with a tale of generosity in a time of trouble. Nobody. Silence.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 27, 2014 02:31 PM (P6QsQ)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 27, 2014 02:31 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 02:32 PM (C3Wjb)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 27, 2014 02:32 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 02:32 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: troyriser at January 27, 2014 02:32 PM (gNlvW)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 27, 2014 06:30 PM (oFCZn)
The way I saw it presented was it was both a business and ethical decision.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:32 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 02:33 PM (4QSOR)
Ace have you ever tried to watch a tv show with French subtitles to help you learn conversational French? I used to do this when I was trying to teach myself Spanish.
We watched the French Language Cyrano de Bergerac in my French class, was a good one. Amelie is going to be on the Netflix, if is not already, that would be a good one as well.
Posted by: LizLem at January 27, 2014 02:33 PM (BF+2f)
Posted by: Mama AJ at January 27, 2014 02:34 PM (SUKHu)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at January 27, 2014 02:34 PM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at January 27, 2014 02:34 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:32 PM (DmNpO
The last scene showing them making the karate movie overseas was hilarious. They got a big budget and still made a less than B-movie.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:34 PM (m2CN7)
Sometimes it annoys me too, but weirdly in Batman it seems right. I think because he has all the cool bat toys and he can swing from the rafters and just drop in. I'll accept it from most superheroes actually.
The annoying thing that bothers me in movies is the Hooker With The Heart of Gold (Pretty Woman, etc).
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 02:34 PM (n0DEs)
279 No love for "The Mist"? My God, that scene with the enormous tentacled ... THING ... walking across the road, and over the hill, as everyone watched in awe and horror? THAT scene made the movie for me, even with all the other missteps.
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'The Mist' had the worst ending ever.
I liked it up until then.
The ending was horrible.
It wasn't in the book like that...they added that for the movie.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2014 02:35 PM (Wq5le)
Posted by: steevy at January 27, 2014 02:35 PM (zqvg6)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 02:36 PM (aIKFR)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 27, 2014 02:36 PM (QBm1P)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 02:36 PM (4QSOR)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 02:36 PM (C3Wjb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 02:37 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: KC at January 27, 2014 02:38 PM (i7KmQ)
Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 27, 2014 02:38 PM (4QSOR)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 02:38 PM (DmNpO)
I never understood in the movie "Mitt" how he just dropped out of sight in the general election.
I do like well-oiled viking women movies. and women prison movies. those are good.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 27, 2014 02:38 PM (n0DEs)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 06:36 PM (C3Wjb)
Bogus...
Posted by: Ted "Theodore" Logan at January 27, 2014 02:38 PM (LI48c)
The documentarian filmed the Romneys for 6 years, covering 2 election cycles, then it took two years to edit that footage. Why put it out pre the 2012 election if election night is an obvious climax for your doc? Would make no sense narratively. It's not a biography, it is a behind the scenes of the campaign. But yes would have helped humanize him had something like this aired before the election.
Posted by: LizLem at January 27, 2014 02:39 PM (BF+2f)
253...So the demand for films to be in 3D might help to kill the shaky cam.
Posted by: buzzion at January 27, 2014 06:26 PM (LI48c)
Let's hope so.
Something needs to kill the shaky cam. It's been done to death now.
Shaky Cam must die.
Posted by: wheatie at January 27, 2014 02:39 PM (Wq5le)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 27, 2014 06:36 PM (C3Wjb)
You may have a point about Keanu Reeves acting . Maybe . But I guarantee you he is either the luckiest actor in the world or the best ever in picking scripts. I really , really like 95% of all of the movies he has done.
I would like to think I would have liked them regardless who played his part.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:39 PM (m2CN7)
The ending was pretty horrible, though.
Posted by: acethepug at January 27, 2014 02:40 PM (qZX7h)
Posted by: Hollywood Producer Cabal at January 27, 2014 02:41 PM (QF8uk)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 27, 2014 02:41 PM (IXrOn)
Posted by: pookysgirl at January 27, 2014 02:41 PM (kMnHs)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 02:42 PM (DmNpO)
There are no honorable characters in those films.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:37 PM (DmNpO)
The majority of the audience saw Vito killing a harsh task master with the kinder and gentler Vito taking over. Nice lady gets apartment from mean landlord for 20.00 cheaper per month and gets to keep her dog.
Posted by: polynikes at January 27, 2014 02:42 PM (m2CN7)
They would have but they all only speak Arabic.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 02:43 PM (NU/ou)
Movie/TV show: the invariable subplot showing tension between the cop/firefighter/soldier/astronaut and his or her spouse because the spouse is frustrated at the long absences and/or the risks of the job. This subplot shows up all the time and is typically used to quickly frame the character and establish his/her humanity. Or whatever.
In real life, anyone marrying anyone in those positions would know beforehand that their future spouse worked long/weird hours and/or was in a dangerous or somewhat risky profession and/or probably wouldn't be able to make it to Britney's first birthday party or Jody's graduation. Makes me cringe whenever I see this subplot in action. I say to the screen, 'Bad writer. Bad writer. What the hell are you thinking?'
Posted by: troyriser at January 27, 2014 02:43 PM (gNlvW)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 27, 2014 02:46 PM (pginn)
Posted by: Z Ryan at January 27, 2014 02:46 PM (fMK2m)
Posted by: Smashmaster at January 27, 2014 02:47 PM (NgOno)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 27, 2014 02:47 PM (pginn)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 27, 2014 02:49 PM (pginn)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 27, 2014 02:49 PM (dfYL9)
Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2014 02:51 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 27, 2014 02:52 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 02:52 PM (NU/ou)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 02:53 PM (NU/ou)
Another teleportation scene that's annoying: Big Daddy teleports into the warehouse full of bad guys in Kick Ass. Makes up for it by going all stabby stabby shooty shooty. Plus, taking the last guy's pump shotgun and immediately blasting him point blank.
A non-teleportation scene that's annoying: Rambo completely covered in mud and melted into the mud wall in the stream bed. How did he get his other hand covered in mud enough to camouflage himself? Makes up for it by going stabby stabby with the evil commie Spetznaz dude.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2014 02:54 PM (TIIx5)
Posted by: Christopher Stevens at January 27, 2014 02:55 PM (9F2c1)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 27, 2014 02:56 PM (itCai)
@268I haven't seen this new "Mitt" Documentary yet...but my question is: Why?
Why now?
This could've helped in 2012.
But why do it now?
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Because iirc it was the filmmaker's project, not Romney's. If I remember the background on it correctly, the filmmaker is the one who asked to follow Romney around with a camera and document the campaign. It wasn't a Romney vanity project.
Posted by: junior at January 27, 2014 02:57 PM (UWFpX)
The Godfather movies only depicted Vito, or at least the onscreen Vito, as involved in harmless vice and in mixing it up with other players. On an intellectual level, you know that innocents are also being harmed, but it is not displayed. Instead, you just see the more understandable kinds of criminalty. The kinds of stuff that the audience can fantasize themselves as doing. Some kid of a local businessman gets raped and he wants some street justice - well, most people aren't too horribly concerned if the rapist gets his balls cut off. But, sending his thugs to tune up the local bar owner because he doesn't want to make his weekly payment - well most decent people don't want to think of themselves ordering that kind of thing.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 27, 2014 03:00 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Filthy Scandi Snowbilly at January 27, 2014 03:02 PM (XhMkP)
Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2014 03:04 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: LiveFromRussianHill at January 27, 2014 03:10 PM (kDMxL)
Posted by: Goober at January 27, 2014 03:13 PM (QvJr9)
Posted by: NativeNH at January 27, 2014 03:15 PM (UD+Ek)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at January 27, 2014 03:17 PM (dvRYt)
Mitt had little business running in 2008 and even less in 2012. It doesn't matter that he's a good guy in his private life. Especially in 2012, we needed a right of center populist to run against Obama. Mitt was the furthest thing from a Populist the party could find. Mitt couldn't credibly criticize Obamacare. That Mitt made his fortune from carried interest meant he couldn't credibly sell hard budget measures. Mitt got good at attacking his Republican opponents (e.g. Newt) but didn't have the stomach to really go after Obama the way that Newt would have. This shows that Mitt's campaign was always more about Mitt than about stopping Obama. As a politician, he should just commit seppuku and go away.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 27, 2014 03:24 PM (EPEqj)
If only anything about that presidential campaign had been real.
Posted by: Beef at January 27, 2014 03:25 PM (XERws)
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at January 27, 2014 03:30 PM (WCi6Q)
In this case, the Dark Knight clip is worse because the camera circles around Joker and Rachel, revealing the room to be open with a lot of white in the background. So Batman pops into frame having emerged from not only a crowd of people who don't react to his sudden presence, but also a bunch of Joker Goons, one at least who would have noticed the appearance of a man dressed as a bat and alerted his boss. In the Lethal Weapon clip, at least the openness of the room is established AFTER the implausible appearance of the goon.
Also, as a tertiary to your pet peeve, I cannot stand "gotcha" moments when something jumps out at someone and it's accompanied by a severe stroke of percussion instruments (from bass drums to staccato snares all mixed together)...might as well have someone on the soundtrack shouting "BOO!"
Posted by: SGT. York at January 27, 2014 03:31 PM (8Uxxu)
But that was not to be.
In 2012 everyone on the right expected a win because they couldn't imagine the voters electing someone with the economy and job market as bad as it was. This time around I think everyone is looking to a failed Obamacare providing the victory. I am however afraid that the voting public has changed over the decades and the old types of assumptions aren't valid anymore.
Posted by: Harold at January 27, 2014 03:32 PM (xTVTq)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 27, 2014 03:42 PM (QBm1P)
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Wasn't one of the subplots in Godfather II that Vito objected to the oppressive protection racket run by Don Fanucci (recall Fanucci with the theater owner and at Abbandando Gosseria)?
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 27, 2014 03:42 PM (lh89W)
Posted by: wallydog at January 27, 2014 03:47 PM (Za+Lt)
Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2014 03:55 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2014 04:01 PM (sdi6R)
I don't think that at all. When Michael is at the Baptism, knowing the hell he's unleashed, it sends chills down my spine.
I love the movies (I and II), because they so beautifully tells the story, not because it makes them look less than evil.
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I've always taken the position that the Corleones and the other players in the Godfather movies inhabited a separate and distinct moral universe - I don't think the point was to show that these guys did all of these evil things, but rather that there is a different system of moral credits and debits that doesn't correspond to our own in that life.
I can't think of anything that Vito or Michael did that they wouldn't deem necessary or at the very least retributive and justified. Fanucci terrorized the neighborhood - Vito removed the oppressor and replaced him with a just and more benevolent order. Michael assassinated Sollozzo and McCluskey, but only after they attempted to assassinate Vito, continued to pursue him in order to murder him, etc. Kay Adams was perhaps the tether to the WASP world and its moral order, which Michael identifies as similarly corrupt and more hypocritical than the one he then inhabits when he calls Kay naive for believing that "Presidents and Senators don't have men killed." Even having Fredo killed makes a certain moral sense after betraying Michael and nearly having Michael, his wife and children killed and after forewarning not to be disloyal to the family.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 27, 2014 04:01 PM (lh89W)
"In 2012 everyone on the right expected a win"
Speak for yourself. I wasn't alone in predicting well before the 2012 Convention that Obama would get over 300 electoral votes against Romney.
Reagan beat Carter in 1980 because enough people felt real pain that they got off their asses to vote. Bernanke and the Fed have had us on a steady morphine drip, so that we're not forced to face the long-term effects of a trillion dollar structural deficit. That will change, but I'm not sure when.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 27, 2014 04:27 PM (EPEqj)
To be fair to the Joker's goon, he might have thought it was a kid's Wish Foundation stunt and ignored it for that reason.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 04:42 PM (NU/ou)
No, it's not that funny. It tries too hard and mistakes bombast for humor, and it's odd that no one figured that out when they were making it in spite of the pedigrees of the people making it.
But you know what? I love this movie, and I also find it kind of haunting. There's a real darkness running through the heart of this film, and it's not just in the harrowing ladder sequence, it's also in the Spencer Tracy plot, which is really quite tragic. His character, who by all accounts appears to be a decent man who gets pushed to his limit on this particular day and makes one really bad choice, is destroyed by the end of the film. His fate is quite harsh.
Posted by: Kensington at January 27, 2014 04:56 PM (uaEZS)
Posted by: Quintapalus at January 27, 2014 05:08 PM (tJP4b)
Posted by: cqness at January 27, 2014 05:50 PM (D0sGt)
Posted by: morgan at January 27, 2014 05:56 PM (xd0hb)
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 27, 2014 05:59 PM (YxryS)
"Apt Pupil" is a darned good horror movie, (loosely) based off a Stephen King story. Of course it lacks the "Because aliens!" copout so frequent in his work, as well as the gratuitous gross-outs, and the the characters are not idiots.
Posted by: Luke at January 27, 2014 07:04 PM (2MUaT)
He wasn't my ideal candidate, but anyone who sat out the election because he was insufficiently conservative is just as much to blame for this country going down the shitter as an Obama voter.
Posted by: Uniden at January 27, 2014 07:36 PM (13G+x)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 27, 2014 07:58 PM (XO6WW)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 27, 2014 08:00 PM (XO6WW)
He's just a very modest man, as most truly great people are, and would never tout himself with his campaign. But there were no secrets. Most in the media who cared to know understood fully well the sort of man he was.
There was a concerted effort on the part of Obama, aided and abetted by media, to portray Romney as something else, based on his wealth alone.
Posted by: Adjoran at January 27, 2014 09:50 PM (473jB)
Oldman and Paddy Considine find a shack in the woods, break into a padlocked sideroom, and Oldman's character walks in staring the entire time straight at the floor. "Ooh whats in there, whats in there?," I wondered. Then he looks up at a young, deformed girl chained to the wall who's bathed in light streaming through cracks in the building. He would have seen her the moment he walked in the room. But the camera had to hide her from us, ya know, because.
That was enough to tell me the movie sucked. I kept watching another 20 minutes anyway, and yep, it still sucked. Then I checked reviews online, and everyone else said it sucked.
Posted by: Willy at January 27, 2014 09:56 PM (BzWvW)
Here's the clip you're talking about: http://bit.ly/1f8HjQg.
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Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 01:41 PM (DmNpO)