January 28, 2014

Obama Raises Minimum Wage Paid Under Federal Contracts By Executive Order
— DrewM

Remember when the left spent 8 years complaining about "unitary executive" (a term almost none of them understood) and signing statements?

Good times, good times.

President Obama, in the first of potentially many executive actions tied to his State of the Union address, will unilaterally increase the minimum wage for workers under new federal contracts to $10.10 an hour, from $7.25, in an effort to build momentum for a minimum wage hike for all Americans.

The executive order, which had been pushed by progressive Democratic lawmakers, applies to all contractors performing services for the federal government and would affect more than 2 million employees, according to an administration official.

Is it constitutional? What difference at this point does it make?

But don't worry, John Boehner is on the case.

The House GOP "will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing laws, as he took an oath to do,” Boehner told reporters after a meeting of the Republican conference. “We’re going to watch very closely, because there’s a Constitution that we all take an oath to, including him, and following the Constitution is the basis for House Republicans.”

Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, “There are options that are available to us.” Republicans, he said, would discuss them at their annual retreat, which begins Wednesday in Cambridge, Md.

Apparently those options include passing an amnesty bill that would give Obama a desperately needed achievement going into the midterms.

Someone sent in an "Ask the blog" question about why we don't use the flaming skull much anymore. I don't remember if we answered it during the podcast or not but we did talk about it. Basically while there's so many things coming from this White House that things which would have been shocking to the mind a few years ago are now routine. Combine that with a lack of any interest in responding by Republicans and people are just becoming numb to the lawlessness of this administration. Contra that idiot George Lucas, this is actually how democracy (or in this case a constitutional republic) dies.

Posted by: DrewM at 08:11 AM | Comments (383)
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1 Boehner is completely devoid of feck.

Posted by: toby928© at January 28, 2014 08:12 AM (QupBk)

2 Basically while there's so many things coming from this White House that things which would have been shocking to the mind a few years ago are now routine.



We've finally done it!



Flaming Skull Desensitization.



Posted by: EC at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (GQ8sn)

3 I just thought the flaming skull was burnt out by this administration, just died from exhaustion.

Posted by: Dandolo at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (0XBx+)

4 Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, "Curl up in a ball and cry."

FTFY Boehner...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (P3U0f)

5 But don't worry, John Boehner is on the case. Yep. My cocktail glass is full and the tanning bed is empty. It's good to be me.

Posted by: The Weeping Boner at January 28, 2014 08:13 AM (7ObY1)

6 The next hill will totes be the one to fight on.

Posted by: The GOP at January 28, 2014 08:14 AM (nsg2T)

7 Wow, I read the post and still got in the top three.

Posted by: Dandolo at January 28, 2014 08:14 AM (0XBx+)

8 What looming debt crisis?! --Barky.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:14 AM (GaqMa)

9 The best chance for the return of the flaming skull is for the media to start calling out the left, yes? Won't happen .. but sometime in 2015 they will start taking some shots at Obama so their candidate in 2016 can run as "anti-Obama". Mew

Posted by: acat at January 28, 2014 08:14 AM (4UkCP)

10 Useless GOP.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 28, 2014 08:14 AM (l3vZN)

11

"Republicans, he said, would discuss them at their annual retreat, which begins Wednesday in Cambridge, Md." 

Any meeting of Congressional Republicans can be called a retreat.

Posted by: Bud Norton at January 28, 2014 08:15 AM (6cOMd)

12 Raising the minimum wage of "federal contract workers" would only effect NEW contracts, not existing contracts or even contracts up for renewal unless the terms of that contract substantially changes. So not sure how many people would actually be effected by this. I doubt 2 million. This is mostly just for show

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 08:15 AM (t3UFN)

13
 what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, “There are options that are available to us.” Republicans, he said, would discuss them at their annual retreat..

--- well  one of our options are to ignore everything the last few years and work with dems  on amnesty.

i think that is what we will do.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2014 08:15 AM (nqBYe)

14 "...people are just becoming numb to the lawlessness of this administration."

Posted by: DrewM. at 12:11 PM

Exactly.

And this is what the Obama regime is counting on....we will become inured to the all-encompassing federal government and its rigid control over us.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 28, 2014 08:15 AM (QFxY5)

15 4 Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, "Curl up in a ball and cry."
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Even a sternly worded letter is too much to ask for from these fucks.

You don't beat the JEF through direct action.

But, there are a million cuts of indirect attacks that these lazy bitches can't even be bothered to look into--let alone act on.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 28, 2014 08:15 AM (VjL9S)

16 who will fight him. Suppose he decides we need to suspend elections. Or get rid of term limits for the POTUS. Who will stop him

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 08:15 AM (zOTsN)

17 “We’re going to watch very closely, because there’s a Constitution that we all take an oath to, including him, and following the Constitution is the basis for House Republicans.”

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Oooooo  -  he's gonna "watch closely"!  Scary!!

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 08:16 AM (P6QsQ)

18 Ironic that John "Have a drink and a cry" Boehner will discuss strategy at the GOP retreat. Retreat is pretty much all he does when not actively helping the libs.

Posted by: Dandolo at January 28, 2014 08:16 AM (0XBx+)

19 Nothing is a big deal anymore. At least right now.

Think. If the stories and rumors about the nsa were circulating eight years ago, the media would be in a frenzy, there would be nonstop cartoons of boosh and chaney and reagan spying on you with telescopes, and there would be a flurry of D's on the floor of Congress sobbing hysterically into their soapboxes.

Instead... silence.

Posted by: Mega at January 28, 2014 08:16 AM (hHFOx)

20 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 12:15 PM (t3UFN) I'm sure they'll define the grandfather clause fairly .

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:16 AM (GaqMa)

21 Contra that idiot George Lucas, this is actually how democracy (or in this case a constitutional republic) dies. A photon torpedo up the exhaust port.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 08:17 AM (ndIek)

22 his State of the Union address, will unilaterally increase the minimum wage for workers under new federal contracts to $10.10 an hour, from $7.25, in an effort to build momentum for a minimum wage hike for all Americans.
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So, a smart Republican party might start by passing a bill that makes the White House operational budget and or Obama personally responsible for any price increases brought about by Barky's EO.

Perhaps a statement along the lines of, "While we disagree with Obama that people should be priced out of work as he is attempting to do, I think we can all agree that if Obama wants to legislate from White House he can pay for it as well. "

Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2014 08:17 AM (P3U0f)

23 he should at least slip us some roofies first

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 08:17 AM (zOTsN)

24 people are just becoming numb to the lawlessness of this administration. I don't think they are. The avalanche is just waiting for the first pebbles to start rolling.

Posted by: toby928© at January 28, 2014 08:17 AM (QupBk)

25 Hey Boner, why don't you watch me stay home in November 2014. Wish I lived in OH so I could find you and put a boot up your ass. You could carefully watch that. You dumb fucking dildo. No offense CBD.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at January 28, 2014 08:17 AM (HVff2)

26 As mentioned a few times before? I don't know what the Devil to do about any of this skullduggery.

Posted by: backhoe at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (ULH4o)

27 “We’re going to watch very closely, because there’s a Constitution that
we all take an oath to, including him, and following the Constitution
is the basis for House Republicans.”

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Oooooo - he's gonna "watch closely"! Scary!!Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 12:16 PM (P6QsQ)

Barak tells the Republicans to 'hold my beer, and watch this"

Republicans hold the beer.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (nqBYe)

28 Three more years and we won't have to worry about any of this.

Posted by: Somebody start a fire! at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (xCzba)

29

Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, “There are options that are available to us.”

 

 

...Yes?   Such as?   come on, John B, say what they are.   Or are you too chicken?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (4df7R)

30 Nevergiveup I posted the Pete Carroll truther story at the end of the morning dump thread

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (zOTsN)

31 Charles Cooke wrote a about it. http://t.co/zGvaqXUnX9

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:18 AM (DmNpO)

32 I will watch this closely, and if that doesn't work, I feel that a strongly worded letter will be in order. HIC!

Posted by: The Weeping Boner at January 28, 2014 08:19 AM (7ObY1)

33 because thereÂ’s a Constitution that we all take an oath to
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Wait..really? I don't remember that part. Is an oath like a tax?

Posted by: John Benedict Arnold Roberts at January 28, 2014 08:19 AM (P3U0f)

34 I think we should bring back the Flaming Skull.  We could embellish it with appropriate accessories as the situation demands.  I still remember the Blago hairpiece.  That was great.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 28, 2014 08:19 AM (P6QsQ)

35 A King can do as he wishes.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 28, 2014 08:19 AM (Dwehj)

36 Nevergiveup I see it as "marching orders" actually. Obama waving his scepter and making this happen lends support to both Democrats in the house to push for higher federal minimum wage and for Democrats in the states to push to raise minimum wage at the state level. The thing I find shocking about Seattle's new socialist council member (well after the shock that they outright elected a socialist) is that she is supposedly an economist and she is all in to raise minimum wage here to $15 an hour.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 08:19 AM (RZ8pf)

37 Any meeting of Congressional Republicans can be called a retreat.

Posted by: Bud Norton at January 28, 2014 12:15 PM (6cOMd)


[Snort] Indeed, quite so. Or else a rout. "The GOP held a rout in Cambridge, MD."

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 08:19 AM (RD7QR)

38 Will they write a strongly worded letter?

Posted by: Mainah at January 28, 2014 08:20 AM (659DL)

39 Any chance of liveblogging the SCOAMF's SOTU tonight? Cause I need horde entertainment and misery loves company

Posted by: RoxyDoxy at January 28, 2014 08:20 AM (33Tvs)

40 we will watch closely...


to insure our assistants also get the increase.

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2014 08:20 AM (nqBYe)

41 The House GOP "will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing laws, as he took an oath to do,” Boehner told reporters






Dude, you can see from 30,000 feet that Barry is doing whatever the hell he wants and you're his doormat

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2014 08:20 AM (1Jaio)

42 "Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, 'There are options that are available to us.'"

"Skirted."

Skirted? Really?

How about "tore up into shreds and wiped his ass with"?

Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 08:21 AM (gqT4g)

43 See, here's my thing.  I know the fucking Congress hasn't done it's damn job in forever and a day, so we don't actually have a functioning budget.  But    anybody paid    federal dollars is paid out of the federal coffers (meaning our pockets, but you know that).  Has the   Preezy's decision to go all Executive Fiat on the federal contract   minimum wage been factored into any    continuing resolutions?   Because I'd like to know where he's going to lay his hands on the   money necessary to jack up those wages for 2million workers.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/i][/u][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:21 AM (4df7R)

44 And why stop there? If the idea is sound, why not pay everyone $100.00 per hour? If we could only get on the air and ridicule this obvious absurdity we might be able to affect the outcome. Since we have one party control of the media, we won't be allowed to heap the deserved ridicule on this idea.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 08:21 AM (bb5+k)

45 Republicans , Retreat Retreat!

Posted by: willow at January 28, 2014 08:21 AM (nqBYe)

46 Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2014 12:17 PM (P3U0f) Wait.... you want us to make a Politician PERSONALLY responsible for his actions... that's downright un-American....

Posted by: YOUR GOP! at January 28, 2014 08:21 AM (84gbM)

47 The Party of Stoopid can't seem to understand that constant, unrelenting criticism of the party in power actually works. That criticism doesn't even have to make sense or be based in reality. Just. Keep. Pounding. The. Table. And. Screaming.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:21 AM (0HooB)

48 I don't think they are. The avalanche is just waiting for the first pebbles to start rolling.
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The State Media and the permanent bureaucracy are too good at keeping the opposition divided and poorly led. Obama truly has managed to make us like a third world despotism.

I guess he did promise change didn't he?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 28, 2014 08:21 AM (P3U0f)

49 The thing I find shocking about Seattle's new socialist council member (well after the shock that they outright elected a socialist) is that she is supposedly an economist and she is all in to raise minimum wage here to $15 an hour.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 12:19 PM (RZ8pf)

Posted by: Robot manufacturers everywhere at January 28, 2014 08:21 AM (0XBx+)

50 Try and think of my executive orders as incremental usurpation.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 28, 2014 08:21 AM (Dwehj)

51 The thing I find shocking about Seattle's new socialist council member (well after the shock that they outright elected a socialist) is that she is supposedly an economist and she is all in to raise minimum wage here to $15 an hour.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 12:19 PM (RZ8pf)


Go for it. We are all in!!!!!!

Posted by: Robot manufacturers everywhere at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (0XBx+)

52 And now I'd like to sing a little ditty I call- "The Barbed Cock of Satan Blues" Well, I done up and died And here I am in hell Stole the song "Wimoweh" Made me rich as hell I sure loved me some Stalin Tried to help communism last So, why's ole Satan keep on fuckin' me in the ass? I got the Barbed Cock of Satan Blues Can't someone gimme a hand I kinda lose my mind every time When out my mouth pops Satan's glans.

Posted by: The Ghost of Pete Seeger at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (0cMkb)

53 will unilaterally increase the minimum wage for workers under new federal contracts to $10.10 an hour
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Seems a smart Congressmen would have his staff identify a few dozen of the WH staffers that are making well over $100k a year and point out that if they were fired, Obama could pay for this increase all by himself.

And if he refuses to do so, the House will take up a bill to cut that exact amount out of the WH budget.

Indeed, the battle cry should be: "Why is a White House staffer being paid more than most CEO's in America?" "Why should someone working at the White House be paid more than the average American?"

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (VjL9S)

54 "Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, 'There are options that are available to us.'" "Skirted." Skirted? Really? As in "put 'em on & be his bitch."

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (ndIek)

55 The new normal

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (9+ccr)

56 Exactly. And this is what the Obama regime is counting on....we will become inured to the all-encompassing federal government and its rigid control over us. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 28, 2014 12:15 PM (QFxY5) Make the outrages come often enough and they are no longer outrages.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (bb5+k)

57 A photon torpedo up the exhaust port.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:17 PM (ndIek)

 

 

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I wish the repubs would  push the Constitution like we push memes.

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (AIfv5)

58 If I was a contractor, I'd fire enough employees to pay the remainder $10 an hour.

Posted by: MikeH at January 28, 2014 08:22 AM (ZdA3v)

59 I would have been disappointed if a post by DrewM  criticizing Obama didn't have at least 60%  of it  criticizing the  Republicans.   Well done.    

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 08:23 AM (m2CN7)

60 12 Raising the minimum wage of "federal contract workers" would only effect NEW contracts, not existing contracts . . . .

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 12:15 PM (t3UFN)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!11!!!!111!!!!


You mean like the General Motors and Chrysler contracts, and federal bankruptcy law, and bondholder's rights?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 28, 2014 08:23 AM (wcvVw)

61 Dang, it. That there song was dedicated to Obama's SOTU speech tonight.

Posted by: The Ghost of Pete Seeger at January 28, 2014 08:23 AM (0cMkb)

62 I posted the Pete Carroll truther story at the end of the morning dump thread

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (zOTsN)




He's also a big Barry loving douchebag

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2014 08:23 AM (1Jaio)

63 We used to be able to get at least a Harumph! outta the Republicans during obama's first term. During obama's second term all we get is We'll have to look at this more closely to see if it deserves a harumph, but probably not.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 08:23 AM (UAzle)

64 Man, Sparky keeps getting smaller and smaller. I wonder if his fans are noticing?

Posted by: Chaos the other dark meat at January 28, 2014 08:24 AM (oDCMR)

65 Republicans , Retreat Retreat! Run away! Run away!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 08:24 AM (ndIek)

66 Posted by: The Ghost of Pete Seeger

I'd buy you a drink, but pretty sure all Satan's got stocked in his bar is carbolic acid.

Posted by: HR at January 28, 2014 08:25 AM (ZKzrr)

67 The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Republic have been swept away forever. The regional governors now have direct control over their states. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station.

Posted by: Jay Carney at January 28, 2014 08:25 AM (ZdA3v)

68 I don't think they are. The avalanche is just waiting for the first pebbles to start rolling. Posted by: toby928© at January 28, 2014 12:17 PM (QupBk) At this point, we can only hope that these communist bastards have miscalculated the backlash.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 08:25 AM (bb5+k)

69 Shakespeare got it wrong. Turns out, the head that wears the crown lies pretty easily.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 08:25 AM (7ObY1)

70 "Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, 'There are options that are available to us.'" And then he'll go "to bed and sleep like a baby."

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 28, 2014 08:25 AM (bCEmE)

71 I know nothing coming out of this administration shocks any of us anymore, but I found the flaming skull sort of comforting.... Oh, and the pudding too...Good times, good times...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at January 28, 2014 08:25 AM (9+ccr)

72 I'm already figuring that tonight's official response to the SOTU (by Cathy McMorris Rodgers) is going to be absolutely predictable weak tea. Words like "lie" will of course not be used. Much less "Everything that guy just said is bullshit."

What I'm much more interested in hearing will be Rand Paul's unofficial SOTU response. He seems to be striking out on a course of his own away from the Beltway bloc of the party, and that's to be encouraged.

Rand also very artfully deflected and disarmed David Gregory's leading questions about "war on wimmenz" while appearing on Press The Meat this last weekend.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 08:26 AM (gqT4g)

73

 The thing I find shocking about Seattle's new
socialist council member (well after the shock that they outright
elected a socialist) is that she is supposedly an economist and she is
all in to raise minimum wage here to $15 an hour.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 12:19 PM (RZ8pf)

 

 

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Seattle should go for it.  I'd  vote for a $20 minimum wage in Seattle.  You go, Seattle.

 

Now, let's see what happens.

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 08:26 AM (AIfv5)

74 I propose $15 per hour. For the children!

Posted by: nip at January 28, 2014 08:26 AM (jI23+)

75 And then he'll go "to bed and sleep like a baby." Posted by: Tami at January 28, 2014 12:25 PM (bCEmE) Sweet whiskey river take me away to dreamland

Posted by: Bone-her at January 28, 2014 08:26 AM (ZdA3v)

76 Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, “Apply an extra thick layer of Chapstick and double down on kissing Obama's ass”

Posted by: Aviator at January 28, 2014 08:26 AM (jSUU1)

77

There are options that are available to us.

---

We could shoot ourselves in the left foot

We could shoot ourselves in the right foot

but i think i prefer the option where we shoot ourselves in the face

it's like a hokey pokey of options. a veritbale gamut...

 

Posted by: orange John at January 28, 2014 08:27 AM (SO2Q8)

78 So John, that lunchfucking dillweed in the Oval Office hasn't shown a penchant for "skirting the Constitution" you feckless, ineffective tosspot?

Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 28, 2014 08:27 AM (jNNPU)

79 Snowy terror has descended on the Piedmont of NC. A few tiny flurries, closings galore.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 28, 2014 08:27 AM (ZshNr)

80 I posted the Pete Carroll truther story at the end of the morning dump thread Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (zOTsN) Thanks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 08:27 AM (t3UFN)

81 We know enough to see this is obviously another vote-buying scheme. The question is: For whom is obama buying votes, hitlery, joke biden, ...or himself??

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 08:27 AM (UAzle)

82 I wish the repubs would push the Constitution like we push memes.

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (AIfv5)

 

The Constitution? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at January 28, 2014 08:28 AM (+/C3g)

83 #72 What I'm much more interested in hearing will be Rand Paul's unofficial SOTU response. Me too. Rand will be the highlight of the evening for me.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 08:28 AM (7ObY1)

84 The thing I find shocking about Seattle's new socialist council member (well after the shock that they outright elected a socialist) is that she is supposedly an economist and she is all in to raise minimum wage here to $15 an hour. Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 12:19 PM (RZ8pf) Again, why stop there? If the idea is sound, it should be raised to the level at which it causes the maximum positive result. I would ask to see her calculations which determine that $15.00 is the precise amount at which we achieve the maximum cost/benefit ratio. I'll bet everything I have that she has no calculations and that the number was simply pulled out of her ass.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 08:28 AM (bb5+k)

85 Has the Preezy's decision to go all Executive Fiat on the federal contract minimum wage been factored into any continuing resolutions? Because I'd like to know where he's going to lay his hands on the money necessary to jack up those wages for 2million workers. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at January 28, 2014 12:21 PM (4df7R) Everyone's retirement accounts. Duh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 08:28 AM (VtjlW)

86 Shakespeare got it wrong. Turns out, the head that wears the crown lies pretty easily.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 12:25 PM (7ObY1)



It does if you scream racism at anyone who disagrees with you and they run like rabbits from it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 28, 2014 08:28 AM (1Jaio)

87 San Francisco already has a higher minimum wage , but that's not enough. They want a "living" wage... So that means it has to be enough to be able to live there... In my calculation that would be about a thousand dollars give or take a couple thou....

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at January 28, 2014 08:28 AM (9+ccr)

88 I'm special, so special...I gotta have some of your attention, give it to me.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 28, 2014 08:28 AM (Dwehj)

89  See, here's my thing. I know the fucking Congress hasn't done it's damn job in forever and a day, so we don't actually have a functioning budget. But anybody paid federal dollars is paid out of the federal coffers (meaning our pockets, but you know that). Has the Preezy's decision to go all Executive Fiat on the federal contract minimum wage been factored into any continuing resolutions? Because I'd like to know where he's going to lay his hands on the money necessary to jack up those wages for 2million workers.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at January 28, 2014 12:21 PM (4df7R)

 

As always, you have to read the fine print.  This wage increase will only apply to NEW hires under NEW contracts, starting in 2015.  No need to go ask Congress for a budget increase.

 

Of course, that won't stop the MFM from breathlessly declaring that Fightin' Barack has used his Magic Superpowers to give 2 million workers a raise. 

Posted by: rockmom at January 28, 2014 08:28 AM (Q4elb)

90 The laughable part of the city of Sea-Tac voting themselves a $15 an hour minimum wage was all the airport workers working hard to get it passed. And then discovering after it passed that the airport is considered part of the port of Seattle so the $15 minimum wage wouldn't apply to them. Hahahaha.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 08:29 AM (RZ8pf)

91 Because I'd like to know where he's going to lay his hands on the money necessary to jack up those wages for 2million workers.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at January 28, 2014 12:21 PM (4df7R)

 

I was thinking the same thing though its for contracts going forward. 

 

Will the contractors make their bids reflect  the same amount of employees thus   increasing pre-raise estimates or will the contractors eliminate jobs and submit same estimated pre-raise bids?  

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 08:29 AM (m2CN7)

92 A photon torpedo up the exhaust port. Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 12:17 PM (ndIek) *trembles with anticipation

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 28, 2014 08:29 AM (659DL)

93 82 I wish the repubs would push the Constitution like we push memes. Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (AIfv5) The Constitution? Never heard of it. Posted by: Charles Gibson at January 28, 2014 12:28 PM (+/C3g) How is an old sailing ship out of Boston gonna help us? Besides Hillary has claimed trademark on "Old Ironsides"

Posted by: Bone-her at January 28, 2014 08:29 AM (ZdA3v)

94

3 words....

"Double Secret Probation"

Posted by: orange John at January 28, 2014 08:29 AM (SO2Q8)

95

WhooHoo!

 

I'm getting a raise!

 

Suck on it, wingnuts!

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 28, 2014 08:30 AM (XxAYS)

96 Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 12:18 PM (zOTsN) Read it: Well there is a reason he is a Football Coach and not a Brain Surgeon.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 08:30 AM (t3UFN)

97

The thing I find shocking about Seattle's new socialist council member (well after the shock that they outright elected a socialist) is that she is supposedly an economist and she is all in to raise minimum wage here to $15 an hour.

 

Krugman the Miniscule is supposedly an economist.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 08:30 AM (zF6Iw)

98

42 "Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only,

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Didya see the skirt the constitution was wearing? Bitch was asking for it. Begging...

 

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 28, 2014 08:31 AM (SO2Q8)

99 Posted by: The Ghost of Pete Seeger at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (0cMkb) So Pete Seeger finally died? I heard it here first!

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 28, 2014 08:31 AM (bb5+k)

100 Shakespeare got it wrong No. He got it right. First thing we do, is kill all lawyers.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 08:31 AM (ndIek)

101 Any Republican who works with the Dems on any Immigration Reform while obama is taking unilateral actions is out of his or her fuckin mind and needs to be tarred and feathered.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 08:31 AM (t3UFN)

102 When statesmen forsake their own private conscience for the sake of their public duties, they lead their country by a short route to chaos Thomas More

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 08:32 AM (zOTsN)

103 I feel pretty, oh so pretty So pretty and witty and bright!

Posted by: President Barack Obama at January 28, 2014 08:32 AM (7ObY1)

104 Um, where is the member of the Party of Stoopid with the numbers to show how a wage increase works out in the real world? Anyone? Bueller? I'm old enough to remember when we had people who could stand up and make a cogent, real argument against such fairy-tale economic fantasies. I see those days are well behind us.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:32 AM (0HooB)

105 "...will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing laws, as he took an oath to do,”

Gee, thanks for *watching*. How about *doing something*?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 28, 2014 08:32 AM (POpqt)

106 I'm already figuring that tonight's official response to the SOTU (by Cathy McMorris Rodgers) is going to be absolutely predictable weak tea. Words like "lie" will of course not be used. Much less "Everything that guy just said is bullshit." *** I hear she will have human props of her own.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:32 AM (DmNpO)

107

I would have been disappointed if a post by DrewM criticizing Obama didn't have at least 60% of it criticizing the Republicans. Well done.

 

What color, out of curiosity, is the sky in your world?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 08:32 AM (zF6Iw)

108 --- Didya see the skirt the constitution was wearing? Bitch was asking for it. Begging... Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 28, 2014 12:31 PM (SO2Q I thought dudes slinging jeans around their knees did it for ya...

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 28, 2014 08:33 AM (ZdA3v)

109 Everyone's retirement accounts. Duh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 12:28 PM (VtjlW)

 

If  you  say Beetlejuice 401k  one more time and its going to come true.    I beg you to stop  because  that is my tipping point. 

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 08:33 AM (m2CN7)

110 101 out of his or her fuckin mind and needs to be tarred and feathered Actually Nevergiveup that is too damn easy on the traitorous asswipe. I know I'm not suppose to favor violence. But, its one of those kind of days and moods.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humantiarian at January 28, 2014 08:33 AM (HVff2)

111 Republicans, he said, would discuss them at their annual retreat Don't you mean daily retreat, John?

Posted by: The Federal Government at January 28, 2014 08:33 AM (FcR7P)

112 Would you people please stop complaining and let the Maestro finish his masterpiece? He's delivered in spades so far, leaving a trail of economic wreckage that even FDR would admire. Now, can we just put John Boehner under the cone of silence, so that President Wile E. Coyote can complete his work?

Posted by: RobM1981 at January 28, 2014 08:33 AM (zurJC)

113 Krugman the Miniscule is supposedly an economist.

No, he's a floor wax.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:34 AM (MPIX5)

114 Great, lookie here. I can link by hotmail account to my twitter account, except I don't have a twitter account.




What I need is link my facebook account to twitter so everyone can follow my facebook account. That's what I need.


What? Minimum Wage? Not a problem, we got this. Obama's gonna do it, no one's gonna stop him, and it won't make any difference because it's all propaganda. Nothing actually changes, except for a few union negotiations when the two sides start arguing over whether or not the minimum wage has actually been raised.

Just how many Federal contractors pay minimum wage? Anyone know?

Posted by: Somebody start a fire! at January 28, 2014 08:34 AM (xCzba)

115

The only SOTU response I'd like to hear is Ted Cruz staring into the camera and saying three simple words:

 

"Sic semper tyrannis."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 08:34 AM (zF6Iw)

116 Snowy terror has descended on the Piedmont of NC. A few tiny flurries, closings galore.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 28, 2014 12:27 PM (ZshNr)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------

 

 

LOL!  We had about a quarter inch of flakey terror here in OKC last night.  Batten down the hatches!  She's  a' comin' at ya.

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 08:34 AM (AIfv5)

117 brb, writing a strongly worded letter

Posted by: lolGOP at January 28, 2014 08:34 AM (5ikDv)

118 55 The new normal   Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at January 28, 2014 12:22 PM (9+ccr)
Is abbie normal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2014 08:34 AM (F75MN)

119 Affirmative Action has consequences.

Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 08:34 AM (J2u5A)

120 Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, “There are options that are available to us.” "For instance I am directing my staff to expunge all so called Tea Party Conservatives from any and all leadership positions in the House and directed all GOP PACS to withold funding for their elections or to actively support their more moderate opponents. This will alleviate much of the problem." FIFY

Posted by: Daybrother at January 28, 2014 08:35 AM (mN74E)

121 I'm old enough to remember when we had people who could stand up and make a cogent, real argument against such fairy-tale economic fantasies. I see those days are well behind us. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at January 28, 2014 12:32 PM (0HooB) I miss Milton Friedman. The Phil Donahue interview is a classic.

Posted by: Mainah at January 28, 2014 08:35 AM (659DL)

122 Affirmative Action has consequences.

But it's pretty cool too!

Posted by: Prez'nit Barky The Magnificent[/i][/s][/u][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:35 AM (MPIX5)

123  I would have been disappointed if a post by DrewM criticizing Obama didn't have at least 60% of it criticizing the Republicans. Well done.

What color, out of curiosity, is the sky in your world?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 12:32 PM (zF6Iw)

 

What does that have to do with anything.  I  realize  that the Republicans can do more  and some are useless  but  I get sick of the  having any criticism of the Left turn more into a criticism of the Republicans.   That's  the color of my sky.   

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 08:36 AM (m2CN7)

124 No see as I explained in the headline thread the new logic is that if they raise it then people will have more money to spend so they will pay the businesses more and so then the businesses can pay their employees more. It makes sense to LIVs.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 08:36 AM (RZ8pf)

125 the thing with Pete Carroll is here he had a man who was in the Pentagon when the plane flew into it, telling him it really happened, and people he knew died, and Carroll has the gall to persist he is an asshole I am tired of acting like 911 trutherism is a difference of opinion. In fact, people who believe that should be shunned by polite society and too embarrassed to express it. They should be shamed

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 08:36 AM (zOTsN)

126 Now, can we just put John Boehner under the cone of silence, so that President Wile E. Coyote can complete his work?

Posted by: RobM1981 at January 28, 2014 12:33 PM (zurJC)

 

Actually, given he seeks the destruction of the USA, isn't he more Marvin the Martian?

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 28, 2014 08:36 AM (+/C3g)

127 "Am I not merciful?!"

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 28, 2014 08:36 AM (BZAd3)

128 The question is: For whom is obama buying votes, hitlery, joke biden, ...or himself??

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 12:27 PM (UAzle)

It's cute that you think Obama would allow voting for himself.  He'd just deem himself a 3rd term if he Val Jar convinced him he should.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (fwARV)

129 As long as the Federal Government still legally and officially discriminates against whites in hiring and promotion policies then I think this is a good thing. Diversity!!!!111!!

Posted by: Progtard 2000 at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (ZPrif)

130 No. He got it right. First thing we do, is kill all lawyers. While I appreciate the sentiment, that's not what The Bard meant. The "kill all the lawyers" remark was meant to ridicule mob mentality, not to praise it. Jack Cade and his followers were the original Progressives. Jack Cade. Be brave, then; for your captain is brave, and vows reformation. There shall be in England seven halfpenny loaves sold for a penny: the three-hooped pot; shall have ten hoops and I will make it felony to drink small beer: all the realm shall be in common; and in Cheapside shall my palfrey go to grass: and when I am king, as king I will be,— All. God save your majesty! Jack Cade. I thank you, good people: there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers and worship me their lord. Dick the Butcher. The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. Jack Cade. Nay, that I mean to do.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (7ObY1)

131 The Flaming Skull has consumed itself from constantly being aflame.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (32Ze2)

132 Krugman the Miniscule is supposedly an economist.

No, he's a floor wax.

Posted by: Sean Bannion

But he really should be a desert* topping.

Posted by: weft cut-loop *STET[/i] [/b] at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (cxs6V)

133 $10.10 an hour, from $7.25, in an effort to build momentum for a minimum wage hike for all Americans. subsidize profit margins for Fed Contractor Dem donors with taxpayer dollars.

Posted by: noone, really [/i] [/b] at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (5ikDv)

134

Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, “There are options that are available to us.”

 

 


...Yes? Such as? come on, John B, say what they are. Or are you too chicken?

 

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I got to hear a Maryland Republican Representative (yes, they do exist, kinda) on the radio this morning.  He was asked basically just that question - what will the House of Representatives, the People's House, the one most responsive to the public do to combat the abuse of the EO?

 

His response:  Well, we'll look at a few things.  We can use the appropriations process to combat these EOs.

 

The interviewer (Larry O'Connor of Breitbart fame) to his credit didn't let him get away with that answer...how the fuck do you use the appropriations process (that has been fucked up for years now anyway since there IS NO FUCKING BUDGET PROCESS ANY MORE) to solve what is at heart a Constitutional Crisis?

 

Fuck!

Posted by: @JohnTant at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (PFy0L)

135 I think I'll go extra heavy on the politics of envy this evening.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (Dwehj)

136 "The thing I find shocking about Seattle's new socialist council member (well after the shock that they outright elected a socialist) is that she is supposedly an economist and she is all in to raise minimum wage here to $15 an hour."

I thought that was rather routine "progressive" boilerplate.

What I found amazing was that the same socialist sap addressed a gathering of Boeing union workers and openly proposed the takeover of Boeing's Puget Sound facilities by Soviet style workers' councils who would manage the factories directly.

When asked what those expropriated factories would build, she said, well, socially important things, like buses.

Yep. Because if there's one line of work that will bring in enough money to pay those aerospace machinists union members their top shelf wages and gold-plated health and retirement benefits, BUSES are surely that. Why, margins in the bus building business are just burstingly well padded. A veritable gold mine of profit.

No more airliner business with only one major high-wage competitor. Nope. Buses, with hundreds of low-wage competitors all over the world, are the wave of the future for the Boeing unions, of that you can be sure.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (gqT4g)

137 No see as I explained in the headline thread the new logic is that if they raise it then people will have more money to spend so they will pay the businesses more and so then the businesses can pay their employees more. It makes sense to LIVs.


LIV's make me laugh and cry at the same time. 


The question that needs to be asked as soon as they finish telling you how much more money everyone will have after the wage hike is what happens when prices rise as a consequence.


Posted by: EC at January 28, 2014 08:37 AM (GQ8sn)

138
Re: This week's Republican retreat*:

House Republicans will hear from legendary college football coach Lou Holtz. They will also hear Rachel Campos Duffy — wife of Rep. Sean Duffy (R-Wis.) — talk about “reaching every corner of America.” On Wednesday evening, Simon Sinek, a motivational speaker who specializes in leadership. will address Republicans. Chad Jenkins, a robotics professor, and Henry Evans, a quadriplegic who uses robotics to communicate, will also give a presentation.

*might as well map that to an alt-key combo to say time.



Politics?  Moi?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 28, 2014 08:38 AM (kdS6q)

139 Grammys were happy to have a 9-11 Truther headline their show. That seems the opposite of being shamed.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:38 AM (ZPrif)

140 125 the thing with Pete Carroll is here he had a man who was in the Pentagon when the plane flew into it, telling him it really happened, and people he knew died, and Carroll has the gall to persist


he is an asshole

I am tired of acting like 911 trutherism is a difference of opinion. In fact, people who believe that should be shunned by polite society and too embarrassed to express it. They should be shamed

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 12:36 PM (zOTsN)


A good 30 or 40 percent of Democrats are Truthers. Trying to shame shameless people is impossible.

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 08:38 AM (RD7QR)

141 Snowy terror has descended on the Piedmont of NC. A few tiny flurries, closings galore. Posted by: Lincolntf at January 28, 2014 12:27 PM (ZshNr) You too? I had to haul someone over to the window to make sure it was actual flakes and not a sign that I needed to go to the eye doctor because I was seeing streaks every now and again. We're closing shortly but that's mainly because the heat is still not working properly and I was such a whiny bitch about it this morning that the boss caved and is sending us home. I'm not entirely sure that this is the lesson he wants me to learn.

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 08:38 AM (VtjlW)

142 I read where Obama may use his pen to "protect retirement funds". Anyone know what that is about, exactly?

Posted by: Drider at January 28, 2014 08:38 AM (/VmYa)

143 San Francisco already has a higher minimum wage , but that's not enough. They want a "living" wage... So that means it has to be enough to be able to live there... In my calculation that would be about a thousand dollars give or take a couple thou.... *** Minimum wage in Santa Fe, NM is nearly $10 an hour and for hotel workers in the Sea-Tac area, it is $15 per hour.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:39 AM (DmNpO)

144 I gotcha back, O.

Posted by: Dirty Smelly Harry at January 28, 2014 08:39 AM (nsOJa)

145 But he really should be a desert* topping. Posted by: weft cut-loop *STET at January 28, 2014 12:37 PM (cxs6V) His tears do make a wonderful dessert toping. The salt adds wonderfully to any caramel.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:39 AM (GaqMa)

146 Everybody knows fire can't melt steel.

Posted by: Pete O'Carroll at January 28, 2014 08:40 AM (Dwehj)

147
Much of the serious action is expected to come between 10 a.m. and noon on Thursday, when Boehner, Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.), Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and Republican Conference Chairman Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.) give their presentation about “rebuilding the American dream.” Republicans are looking to delve into immigration policy.



Cry havock!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 28, 2014 08:40 AM (kdS6q)

148 It is hard to believe that any GOP pol would work with or give Obama a bone on anything. He will not enforce any amnesty agreement. Obama's in complete bad faith land. As for the executive order? I am sure there's a federal law that he's breaking and therefore it's illegal.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 08:40 AM (QxSug)

149 Posted by: Drider at January 28, 2014 12:38 PM (/VmYa) Impossible to tell honestly. Could be some shitty Wall street EOs or a complete "overhaul" of the 401K system. With TFG it's impossible to tell.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:40 AM (GaqMa)

150

I read where Obama may use his pen to "protect retirement funds".
Anyone know what that is about, exactly?

 

---------

 

Yep - he'll take them from those dangerous 401(k) accounts and put them into nice and safe US Government securities.

Posted by: @JohnTant at January 28, 2014 08:40 AM (PFy0L)

151 The Tonight Show will heavily feature a proud Communist, openly racist Afrocentrist, and 9-11 Truther -- Questlove, the band leader of The Roots. The Roots are the house band for Jimmy Fallon, who takes over The Tonight Show from Leno next month.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:40 AM (ZPrif)

152

The minimum wage thing is cover. Just a distraction. Retirement accounts, and mandatory participation in the program, are the prize.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 08:40 AM (mVJPE)

153 What does that have to do with anything. I realize that the Republicans can do more and some are useless but I get sick of the having any criticism of the Left turn more into a criticism of the Republicans. That's the color of my sky.

 

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 12:36 PM (m2CN7)

 

The Repukes deserve every bit of criticism they get.  Frankly, Drew is too easy on them.  Where's the power of the purse?  Where are the daily press conferences calling out the treasonous fuckwipe?  Where are the articles of impeachment?  Where are the fucking jail sentences?  Barky is treating the Constitution like Reggie's squeakhole and the goddamn GOP says nothing because they're either weepy assholes afraid of the press (Boehner), backstabbing scumbags who ought to long since have been tarred and feathered (McStain) or ambulatory shitstains who blow with whatever wind is prevailing that day (Marco Combover).

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 08:41 AM (zF6Iw)

154 Our American experiment as a constitutional republic is over. It's time to stop arguing about the arrangement of the deck chairs. Survival is the only consideration left to us.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 28, 2014 08:41 AM (JQuNB)

155

amnesty=the end of the rupublican party in 2 ways

 

nobody on the conservative side will vote for the r's again

all those illegals will vot for the Dems at a 75% rate

 

 

 

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at January 28, 2014 08:41 AM (W6iIX)

156 /raises hand This just cost us $8 billion that we ain't got, by the way.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 28, 2014 08:41 AM (659DL)

157 No but EC it is ok cause the business is paying people more so then they can pay the higher prices. See, the system works!!! /sarc.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 08:41 AM (RZ8pf)

158 142 I read where Obama may use his pen to "protect retirement funds". Anyone know what that is about, exactly? Posted by: Drider at January 28, 2014 12:38 PM (/VmYa) Not yet. But if past is prologue be prepared to bend over.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:41 AM (fWAjv)

159 Come for the imperialist law making, stay for the Stalinist show trials.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 28, 2014 08:42 AM (LSJmV)

160

So basically Obama just raised everyone's taxes - AGAIN.

 

I mean, where do people think the money for federal contracts comes from?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at January 28, 2014 08:42 AM (PZ6/M)

161

Republicans, he said, would discuss them at their annual retreat.....

 

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That's odd - I thought they've been retreating a lot more frequently than annually.

Posted by: @JohnTant at January 28, 2014 08:42 AM (PFy0L)

162 We're expecting anywhere from 6" to a foot here. And my phone charger has finally crapped out. Looks like I better hit Wallymart for a new one (and beer). I might be snowed in for a couple days.

Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 28, 2014 08:42 AM (CN6G3)

163 The interviewer (Larry O'Connor of Breitbart fame) to his credit didn't let him get away with that answer...how the fuck do you use the appropriations process (that has been fucked up for years now anyway since there IS NO FUCKING BUDGET PROCESS ANY MORE) to solve what is at heart a Constitutional Crisis? Fuck! Posted by: @JohnTant at January 28, 2014 12:37 PM (PFy0L) Heard the same interview. You could tell O'Connor was pretty worked up over Harris's answer. I had the same reaction.

Posted by: Mainah at January 28, 2014 08:42 AM (659DL)

164 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 08:42 AM (PYAXX)

165 Left is good at institution corrupt -- including the economics profession. The Chicago econ dept, that once featured Milton Friedman, is now basically anti-free market.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:43 AM (ZPrif)

166 World War 2 was a myth.

Posted by: Goofy Troofy at January 28, 2014 08:43 AM (F75MN)

167 We know enough to see this is obviously another vote-buying scheme.

The question is: For whom is obama buying votes, hitlery, joke biden, ...or himself??

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 12:27 PM (UAzle)
=======

He's still paying off 2008.

Even in graft he runs a deficit.

Posted by: Nighthawk at January 28, 2014 08:43 AM (OtQXp)

168 Carlos Henriquez -

Soldier in the war on women.


http://tinyurl.com/kdzc2ud

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 28, 2014 08:44 AM (BZAd3)

169 Richard Sherman agrees with me on my 9/11 theories and he went to Stanford.

Posted by: Pete O'Carroll at January 28, 2014 08:44 AM (Dwehj)

170 I mean, where do people think the money for federal contracts comes from? They think it's printed by the Fed. Which is why we're f*cked. If you asked 100 people on the street what "money" is, I bet 99 of them would take out a dollar bill to "show you."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 08:44 AM (PYAXX)

171 154 Our American experiment as a constitutional republic is over. It's time to stop arguing about the arrangement of the deck chairs. Survival is the only consideration left to us. Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at January 28, 2014 12:41 PM (JQuNB) Deck chairs make lousy flotation devices, btw

Posted by: Jack Dawson at January 28, 2014 08:44 AM (ZdA3v)

172 the GOP is like the NFL. They are so gay to get new customers that they're willing to spit on their base. NFL: "say...maybe if we eliminate tackling the QB and let the WR's run without bumps, the increased scoring will drive moderates from the NBA to the NFL...and if we paint everything pink, the bitches will watch us. Also, the gheys, we need the gheys." the GOP, "say...maybe if we open the borders to the third world, these naturallly conservative voters will love us, despite their acceptance of gun bans, ghey marriage, welfare statism, and general big govt...otherwise we'll drive the moderates from the GOP. Who cares if we're basing this on badly written polling data? We need to stop worrying about stuff that our base loves because that will keep us from getting the vaunted white people problems voters!"

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 08:44 AM (QxSug)

173 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX (@Teresa_Koch) at January 28, 2014 12:42 PM (PZ6/M) Indeed. Which reminds me I need to add up my total taxes again this year. Last year between State, federal and property, (but not including FICA) I was over 15% IIRC. Which when you consider we're barely treading middle class water is a huge amount. FICA pushes us up over 20%. Factor in sales tax and over a quarter of every dollar I make goes to some government entity directly.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:45 AM (GaqMa)

174 Except so far it's working for the NFL, still the most popular sport in America by far. Not working for Repubs.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:45 AM (ZPrif)

175 Heard the same interview. You could tell O'Connor was pretty worked up over Harris's answer. I had the same reaction. Posted by: Mainah at January 28, 2014 12:42 PM (659DL) O'Connor is part of Breitbart? Knew I liked him.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:45 AM (fWAjv)

176 Pretending that Obama can do this, it is funny/sad how little power he actually has. How many federal IC's that would be affected by this are min wage?

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 08:45 AM (QxSug)

177 Yep - he'll take them from those dangerous 401(k) accounts and put them into nice and safe US Government securities. _______ Maybe I shouldn't be so depressed about the fact that I had to cash mine out & it's already spent.

Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 28, 2014 08:45 AM (CN6G3)

178 Just how many Federal contractors pay minimum wage? Anyone know? Posted by: Somebody start a fire! at January 28, 2014 12:34 PM (xCzba) Like most of what Obama does, this is passive-aggressive symbolism and a sop to his stupid base that doesn't realize a minimum wage is a horrible policy. Because that would involve thinking. Look, I'm sure there are janitors, etc., who make less than $10/hr. on some government contracts. All that happens is that nobody hires their own janitor. Subcontractors. In practice, this will cause more government contracts to go to right-to-work states. The big pushers of the minimum wage are unions who structure their contracts in order to have all workers get a raise whenever the minimum wage is increased. Basically, the wages are determined as a multiple of a base wage. At least that's the way they used to do it, you'd figure that employers would have figured out this trick by now. In any case, a raise in the minimum wage would make the cost of a contract skyrocket in a non-right-to-work state but have little effect for the RTW states. Just like always with the minimum wage, it hurts the people it's supposed to help and who support it. Even this stupid symbolic passive-aggressive gesture will have negative consequences for the fools who support it. Of course, leftists always benefit from a horrible economy, so destroying it further provides no negative consequences to Obama.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2014 08:46 AM (T0NGe)

179
As it turns out it only takes 35 or 40 people to bring fascism to this country.

No impeachment means no freedom.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 28, 2014 08:46 AM (n0DEs)

180 The Republicans are prepared to split the difference with the President and set the minimum wage at $12.40.

Posted by: Cathy McMorris Rodgers at January 28, 2014 08:46 AM (QupBk)

181 This is truly a landmark piece of legislation.


Posted by: dananjcon at January 28, 2014 08:46 AM (NpXoL)

182 Obama on dead Commie Pete Seeger: “Over the years, Pete used his voice — and his hammer — to strike blows for worker’s rights and civil rights." You forgot the sickle, Preezy. Hammer and SICKLE.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 08:47 AM (7ObY1)

183 Oh, Obamacare has refused to cover Tom Coburn's cancer specialist.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:47 AM (ZPrif)

184
I think the president is great.  I need that extra income.  What's wrong with Obama increasing the minimum wage anyhow?    Checks and balances?  I never balance my check book.   What's a republic?    Who is Jon Boner?     What continent is this?    What's on TV tonight?     Katie Perry has good boobs but they don't beat Kim Kardashian's.

Posted by: LIVing Large at January 28, 2014 08:47 AM (OZmbA)

185 OT:
 
brb:  Heidi Klum is single again . . . pics:  http://tinyurl.com/ku9sqcf




Hey!  Shredded Chi, how are you, Man?

I'm so busy I can't hardly breathe (Heidi Klum, you see), but I still owe you an e-mail and I've not forgotten that . . .

Posted by: Sharkman at January 28, 2014 08:48 AM (TM1p8)

186 I heard 401k account holders lack diversity and skew white and male and Republican. Racist hoarders!

Posted by: Progtard 2000 at January 28, 2014 08:48 AM (ZPrif)

187 Will the contractors make their bids reflect the same amount of employees thus increasing pre-raise estimates or will the contractors eliminate jobs and submit same estimated pre-raise bids?

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 12:29 PM (m2CN7)

 

They will eliminate jobs.  This won't lead to any price increases for the government.  Just fewer jobs. 

 

I hope all those Obama voters enjoy losing their jobs. 

Posted by: rockmom at January 28, 2014 08:48 AM (Q4elb)

188 Speaking of Republican retreat (isn't this their regular order of business??!?), I present to you the coming debt ceiling debate:
 
TFG -- Raise the limit. No conditions.
Boner -- The House members won't go along with that. Give us a bone.
McConnell -- We won't shut the gubmint down. He wins.
TFG -- Okay, one condition. Boner has to wear this pink tutu as well.
Boner -- Oh fuck. I've seen this Robot Chicken episode already.
McConnell -- I surrender again, in case you didn't hear me the first time.
TFG -- Boner will now have to ride this unicycle before I sign.
Boner -- Someone fetch my scotch; I'll be out on the balcony having a cig and measuring my feet for the clown shoes.
McConnell -- At least he didn't make me wear a Hillary 2016 shirt. Hahahaha.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 08:49 AM (wNF3N)

189 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 12:41 PM (zF6Iw)


After the 2010 elections, the Repukes have done less than the absolute minimum needed to justify getting the vote.  Instead of following through with using "the power of the purse" we get a bunch of cowering nancy boys who rubber stamp every fucking increase the JEF asks for, afraid some toploaded with government workers poll might say bad things about them.  This retreat in Cambridge to discuss amnesty will be the final straw unless the ghost of H Rap Brown descends on them and takes every fucking one of them to hell with him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 28, 2014 08:49 AM (7FFZz)

190 The Tonight Show will heavily feature a proud Communist, openly racist Afrocentrist, and 9-11 Truther -- Questlove, the band leader of The Roots Ahmir Khalib Thomson - another communist millionaire.

Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 08:49 AM (J2u5A)

191 182 Obama on dead Commie Pete Seeger: “Over the years, Pete used his voice — and his hammer — to strike blows for worker’s rights and civil rights." You forgot the sickle, Preezy. Hammer and SICKLE. Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 12:47 PM (7ObY1) Yea, but did he have a fascist killing gitar? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l8jovv7eSC1qbfoleo1_400.jpg

Posted by: Woody at January 28, 2014 08:49 AM (ZdA3v)

192 Yep - he'll take them from those dangerous 401(k) accounts and put them into nice and safe US Government securities. Posted by: @JohnTant at January 28, 2014 12:40 PM (PFy0L) One could say, like a lock box!

Posted by: Mainah at January 28, 2014 08:49 AM (659DL)

193 Hollywood Moonbat Robert Redford: Republicans “Only Motive Is To Destroy” Obama… Apparently we are not allowed to oppose Obama’s disastrous policies without being accused of treason. Weasel Zippers: Well first of all stopping obama is pretty good motive. And fuck you and all your friends, that is why the only movie I have paid to see in 20 years is "Lone Survivor"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 08:49 AM (t3UFN)

194 Heidi Klum is single again . . .


Heidi Klum is a distant relative of mine by marriage.


And no, I haven't written her to tell her of that.

















Yet!


Posted by: EC at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (GQ8sn)

195 Combine that with a lack of any interest in responding by Republicans and people are just becoming numb to the lawlessness of this administration

I'm going to assume that the part of your post where you offer a plausible course of action got cut off.

You might want to fix that, Drew.  Otherwise your post comes across as shallow, unconsidered whining.  Again.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (SY2Kh)

196 Mike Lee to give the Tea Party response.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (fWAjv)

197 Apple keeps crashing in market share. Fuck em.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (ZPrif)

198

Rush is playing clips of WJC yapping about raising the minimum wage in 1995.

 

 

history= a class in school for the LIV

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (W6iIX)

199 A short few days after the first 9/11 there was a picture published of a smirking Senator Hillary Clinton holding up a newspaper front page headline in Senate committee hearings that said, "What did Bush Know and When did he Know It?". The picture was disappeared later. I wish Oh wish that someone would find and use that picture in the run up to 2016. Truther indeed.

Posted by: Daybrother at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (8LRQO)

200 No impeachment means no freedom. Guy Mohawk Yes. This is the 6th hour of my rage-stroke today.

Posted by: LadyS at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (tMTsS)

201 You forgot the sickle, Preezy. Hammer and SICKLE. It was a pretty anemic tribute.

Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (J2u5A)

202 Mike Lee to give the Tea Party response. *** THREE GOP responses now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:50 AM (DmNpO)

203

I suggest to all of you, go back and read or watch anything you can about Germany in the 20s and 30s. It helps in understanding what's going on, and what to expect.

 

It's not a playbook ... since we're seeing both the fall of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Reich at the same time. But it helps.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 08:51 AM (mVJPE)

204 ahh yes, Bill Clinton's "new economy." The same "new economy" that shit the bed in 2000. now with obama we have the New Normal..

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 08:51 AM (UAzle)

205 153 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 12:41 PM (zF6Iw)

Amen. Amen to this.

Posted by: Dandolo at January 28, 2014 08:51 AM (0XBx+)

206 No but EC it is ok cause the business is paying people more so then they can pay the higher prices. See, the system works!!! /sarc.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 12:41 PM (RZ8pf)



It's that damn wage-price spiral effect! 

Posted by: EC at January 28, 2014 08:51 AM (GQ8sn)

207 "As it turns out it only takes 35 or 40 people to bring fascism to this country." Fuck.

Posted by: nip at January 28, 2014 08:51 AM (jI23+)

208 They will eliminate jobs. This won't lead to any price increases for the government. Just fewer jobs. I hope all those Obama voters enjoy losing their jobs. Point. Laugh. Yell "Told you so!"

Posted by: rickb223 at January 28, 2014 08:51 AM (ndIek)

209 Obama on dead Commie Pete Seeger: “Over the years, Pete used his voice — and his hammer — to strike blows for worker’s rights and civil rights." obama's, that communist scrunt, release on Seeger was longer more effusive that the one he released when Former PM Lady Thatcher passed away. That about says it all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 08:51 AM (t3UFN)

210 Apple really is relying on US sales to prop up market share. In the rest of the world they get totally destroyed.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:51 AM (ZPrif)

211 Dear Robert Redord: You are old and haven't done anything interesting since Sneakers.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 28, 2014 08:52 AM (659DL)

212 The NFL won't be popular for long if they continue to fuck with the rules. I have almost lost all interest in the games. I actually prefer Australian Rules Football and Rugby. They are fast moving and exciting sports that are in no way pussified. Goodell are you listening.....

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2014 08:52 AM (32Ze2)

213 Robert Redford's only motivation is to keep his weave in, keep his remaining hair dyed blonde and keep fighting acne at 85 years old.

Posted by: Sphynx at January 28, 2014 08:52 AM (OZmbA)

214 Everytime the minimum wage is raised- The new "per hour" essentially becomes the new zero and everything rises from there. So, no benefit accrues to anyone because everything gets more expensive. And lower level workers either get fired or don't get hired because they cost too much. But, try explaining that to an LIV - smug stupidity is their default setting.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 28, 2014 08:52 AM (0cMkb)

215 185 OT:

brb: Heidi Klum is single again . . . pics: http://tinyurl.com/ku9sqcf


What happened to Walrus or Pinniped or whatever the hell his name is?

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 08:52 AM (RD7QR)

216

I'm going to assume that the part of your post where you offer a plausible course of action got cut off.

You might want to fix that, Drew. Otherwise your post comes across as shallow, unconsidered whining. Again.

 

Have you got a plan to share with the class?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 08:52 AM (zF6Iw)

217 What happened to Walrus or Pinniped or whatever the hell his name is?


Seal?


Posted by: EC at January 28, 2014 08:52 AM (GQ8sn)

218 Obama on dead Commie Pete Seeger: “Over the years, Pete used his voice — and his hammer — to strike blows for worker’s rights and civil rights."

-----


..... and all you have is "this pen . . and this phone".

Posted by: fixerupper at January 28, 2014 08:53 AM (nELVU)

219 ahh yes, Bill Clinton's "new economy." The same "new economy" that shit the bed in 2000. now with obama we have the New Normal.. BRIDGES TO THE 21ST CENTURY COMPLETE WITH HIGH SPEED TRAINS TO BARSTOW.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 28, 2014 08:53 AM (659DL)

220 THREE GOP responses now. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:50 PM (DmNpO) Who are the other two?

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:53 AM (fWAjv)

221 Apple really is relying on US sales to prop up market share. In the rest of the world they get totally destroyed. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 12:51 PM (ZPrif) I realize you hate Apple but that is wildly false. The biggest thing Apple has done this year is sign a contract with China's largest cellular carrier which should start to pay big big dividends in the coming years.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 08:54 AM (t3UFN)

222 Dear Robert Redord:

You are old and haven't done anything interesting since Sneakers  The Sting.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 08:54 AM (zF6Iw)

223 Klum and Seal have been divorced for a couple of years now.

Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 28, 2014 08:54 AM (qBtUE)

224 right, the NFL thinks that the customer base will be loyal as they water down the game and force the working man to accept white people problems as part of the product.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 08:54 AM (QxSug)

225

Have you got a plan to share with the class?

 

-----------

 

"Plausible" = "things that will/may work but will dry up the speaking gigs for our Establishment Betters."

Posted by: @JohnTant at January 28, 2014 08:54 AM (PFy0L)

226 Who are the other two? Karl Rove and Charlie Crist.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 28, 2014 08:54 AM (659DL)

227 Who are the other two? *** Cathy McMorris-Rodgers will give the official GOP response and Rand Paul will offer his own.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:54 AM (DmNpO)

228 Ahmir Khalib Thomson - another communist millionaire. Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 12:49 PM (J2u5A) Being a communist is a good living. Pete Seeger is a typical advocate for "workers" inasmuch as he displays the requisite condescending paternalism.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2014 08:54 AM (T0NGe)

229 197 Apple keeps crashing in market share. Fuck em.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 12:50 PM (ZPrif)


Cool is expensive and hipsters are losing their jobs.

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 08:55 AM (RD7QR)

230 ahh yes, Bill Clinton's "new economy." The same New Economy that killed American manufacturing. And my job. Fuck "Progressives."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:55 AM (0HooB)

231

I suggest to all of you, go back and read or watch anything you can about Germany in the 20s and 30s. It helps in understanding what's going on, and what to expect.



It's not a playbook ... since we're seeing both the fall of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Reich at the same time. But it helps.

 

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 12:51 PM (mVJPE)

 

yep, think so too

Posted by: dDan at January 28, 2014 08:55 AM (hwYmz)

232 OT: brb: Heidi Klum is single again . . . pics: http://tinyurl.com/ku9sqcf What happened to Walrus or Pinniped or whatever the hell his name is? Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 12:52 PM (RD7QR) ______________________ You mean Seal. I never understood her attraction to him. There was a fire on his face that they put out with a pitchfork.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2014 08:55 AM (32Ze2)

233 Klum and Seal have been divorced for a couple of years now. *** She's been dating her bodyguard for a while now. You morons missed out on the rebound opportunity.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:55 AM (DmNpO)

234 Seal and Klum divorced. She was fucking the body guard and he objected. She and the body guard just broke up. He was ugly, as was her first husband the photographer. So. Looks are not important to Ms Klum

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 08:55 AM (zOTsN)

235 In before the GOP shills!

Posted by: toby928© at January 28, 2014 08:55 AM (QupBk)

236 then again, I bet the enforcement goes like this. We force you to pay MinWage+$5 (or whatever) and that means that even if you have no MinWage workers, their wages have to go up to be proportionally better than minwage jobs, so boom... everyone gets a raise.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 08:56 AM (QxSug)

237 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:54 PM (DmNpO) Thanks. Looks like Paul and Lee it is.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:56 AM (fWAjv)

238  Klum and Seal have been divorced for a couple of years now.

Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 28, 2014 12:54 PM (qBtUE)

 

She was dating and believe engaged to her bodyguard afterwards.   I assume now she has broken that off.

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 08:56 AM (m2CN7)

239 Maybe I shouldn't be so depressed about the fact that I had to cash mine out & it's already spent.

Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 28, 2014 12:45 PM (CN6G3)

 

 

--------------------------------------------------------

 

 

I took out most of mine and left a minimum while only contributing a minimum.  I'm thinking of closing it out completely.  That will make  up the loss  I have with the  higher  health insurance rate I have to pay.  I don't know what will happen a year from now with my health insurance, but I may have to close out my Roth account to make up for the loss there too.

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 08:56 AM (AIfv5)

240 I suggest to all of you, go back and read or watch anything you can about Germany in the 20s and 30s. It helps in understanding what's going on, and what to expect. Just go and read newspaper articles about Venezuela TODAY. At least Hugo didn't need a teleprompter.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 28, 2014 08:57 AM (659DL)

241 This is how a republic dies. Why aren't the Republicans fighting? I know, stupid question!

Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2014 08:57 AM (s0f54)

242 So. Looks are not important to Ms Klum Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 12:55 PM (zOTsN) So, I DO matter!

Posted by: Size at January 28, 2014 08:57 AM (ZdA3v)

243 OK Taking into account State, Local, Federal taxes (not including any sales tax or FICA) and comparing that directly to my "wages, salary, tips" part of my tax return. For this year it looks like 18.34% of my income goes to the a government of some type. Stop and consider that for a moment. That's almost 20% of my income just "poof" that I cannot spend. (And actually it's more than that, because they overwithheld by a lot this year.) Now I know, "wages, salary and tips" doesn't include some things (like pretax insurance benefits, 401K contributions etc.) But still. FICA is what? 6.4%? So when you add that in you're up to nearly 1/4 of my income. And we haven't even gotten to sales tax or fees yet! It's entirely conceivable the government takes almost 1/3 of my income in various forms (not counting indirect costs passed on to me by business either.) And as I said, I'm barely clinging to middle class!

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) No Really! at January 28, 2014 08:57 AM (GaqMa)

244 THREE GOP responses now. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:50 PM (DmNpO) I used to think that was a bad idea. Now I think it's good to have multiple responses. Clearly the GOP doesn't have a unified response to Obama (and with our current media, it's probably best not to, so as to give them a target for complaints. So just flood the zone with criticism.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2014 08:57 AM (T0NGe)

245 Cool is expensive and hipsters are losing their jobs. Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 12:55 PM (RD7QR) It's not so much that. They are still meeting or beating sales expectations, the "problem" is they have no real new products in the pipeline and have not since Jobs died. The stock is dropping on the "expectation" of slower future growth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 08:57 AM (t3UFN)

246
I saw Klum and Seal  open for Hall and Oates at the Astrodome in '92

Posted by: Sphynx at January 28, 2014 08:57 AM (OZmbA)

247 wrong, look at Apple's international market share, #s don't lie

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:57 AM (ZPrif)

248 223 Klum and Seal have been divorced for a couple of years now.

Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 28, 2014 12:54 PM (qBtUE)


Eh. I'm always years and years behind on these things. Is Heidi still MILFy?

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 08:57 AM (RD7QR)

249 You mean Seal. I never understood her attraction to him. There was a fire on his face that they put out with a pitchfork. Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 28, 2014 12:55 PM (32Ze2) What we have here, little German sister, is a magnificent specimen of pure Alabama Blacksnake. But it ain't too goddamned beaucoup.

Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:58 AM (fWAjv)

250

Even the late Bob Michel is embarrassed by John Boehner.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at January 28, 2014 08:58 AM (sugnf)

251 and Mike Lee for the 'tea party'

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 08:58 AM (UAzle)

252 I'd like to see Ted Nugent give the response...

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 28, 2014 08:58 AM (LSJmV)

253 Day-um. Kevin Williamson of the National Review, tell us how you REALLY feel! The whole thing is a great read but this passage is teh epic: The annual State of the Union pageant is a hideous, dispiriting, ugly, monotonous, un-American, un-republican, anti-democratic, dreary, backward, monarchical, retch-inducing, depressing, shameful, crypto-imperial display of official self-aggrandizement and piteous toadying, a black Mass during which every unholy order of teacup totalitarian and cringing courtier gathers under the towering dome of a faux-Roman temple to listen to a speech with no content given by a man with no content, to rise and to be seated as is called for by the order of worship — it is a wonder they have not started genuflecting — with one wretched representative of their number squirreled away in some well-upholstered Washington hidey-hole in order to preserve the illusion that those gathered constitute a special class of humanity without whom we could not live.

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at January 28, 2014 08:58 AM (7ObY1)

254 Hey, we are fighting. Do you KNOW how hard it is to keep our parking spots?

Posted by: R's in DC at January 28, 2014 08:58 AM (0XBx+)

255 The new "per hour" essentially becomes the new zero and everything rises from there. If the MinWage goes up in the private sector, every industry that relies on it will have to raise prices accordingly, adding to inflation. These "people" are economic idiots, can't count, and wouldn't know sound economic principle if it bit them on the leg.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 08:59 AM (0HooB)

256 She still Milfy, and dressing increasingly trashy, like she knows its gonna go away before too long

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 08:59 AM (zOTsN)

257 I used to think that was a bad idea. Now I think it's good to have multiple responses. Clearly the GOP doesn't have a unified response to Obama (and with our current media, it's probably best not to, so as to give them a target for complaints. So just flood the zone with criticism. *** I predict Rand's will be by far the more stinging response. Lee will give a great response, but he's not proven to be quite the speaker of a Rand or Cruz quote yet.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 08:59 AM (DmNpO)

258

Soona ... if your Roth is post-tax dollars, you can pull the principal without penalty. The trick is parking that cash somewhere. Paying down or paying off your mortgage is one option.

 

That's my plan, and if Barry says the word tonite ... it happens tomorrow.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 08:59 AM (mVJPE)

259 What we have here, little German sister, is a magnificent specimen of pure Alabama Blacksnake. But it ain't too goddamned beaucoup. Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 12:58 PM (fWAjv) Works everytime

Posted by: Bag over head at January 28, 2014 08:59 AM (ZdA3v)

260 Looks are not important to Ms Klum



So you're saying there's a chance?


Posted by: EC at January 28, 2014 09:00 AM (GQ8sn)

261 Have you got a plan to share with the class?

I'm not the one bitching about inaction without suggesting a course of action, now am I?

If it looks like the GOP isn't doing much about Obama's abuse of power, it's because there's not a whole hell of a lot they can plausibly do.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 09:00 AM (SY2Kh)

262 She still Milfy, and dressing increasingly trashy, like she knows its gonna go away before too long *** She was hilarious on Leno the other night. She had Terry Bradshaw LOLing.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 09:00 AM (DmNpO)

263 Does this mean Reggie Love gets a raise?

Posted by: Sphynx at January 28, 2014 09:00 AM (OZmbA)

264 Dec 2013, Android market share US 51% China 79% Europe 69% Apple market share Dec 13 US 44% (down from 50% Dec 2012) China 19% (down from 21%) Europe 18% (down from 24%) boom

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:00 AM (ZPrif)

265 people are just becoming numb to the lawlessness of this administration --- Yup. In other news, after 3 months of flaming protests in Keiv, the Ukraine PM resigned. The President (Yanukovich) is still in power; it's probably a throw someone under the bus move.

Posted by: votermom at January 28, 2014 09:01 AM (GSIDW)

266 "will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing laws, as he took an oath to do,” Johnny Boyner needs an eye examine. I can see what the lawless messiah is doing all the way from Iowa.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at January 28, 2014 09:01 AM (hpgw1)

267 No worries. All the new illegals the Reps are going to amnesty will be able to get the new higher wage once they cave on that too, it won't just be federal contracts, this is merely the camels nose under the tent. Status update... Duly fucked.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 28, 2014 09:01 AM (C3Wjb)

268 men always laugh at the jokes of hot women, funny or not

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 09:01 AM (zOTsN)

269 The Boner And The Republicans are really having a hard day today. They don't know if they should applaud the part of obama's lie-speech when he pushes Amnesty.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 09:01 AM (UAzle)

270 156 /raises hand

This just cost us $8 billion that we ain't got, by the way.

THIS.

THIS.

A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.

Posted by: Phinn at January 28, 2014 09:01 AM (KOGmz)

271 "...unless the ghost of H Rap Brown descends on them and takes every fucking one of them to hell with him." Posted by: Captain Hate Brilliant reference dude. I applaud you.

Posted by: Daybrother at January 28, 2014 09:02 AM (OEwif)

272 Cool is expensive and hipsters are losing their jobs. And Apple isn't "cool" anymore. Or, it won't be in a couple of years. Steve Jobs (via the Cult of Jobs) was the only reason that Apple was considered "cool." Which is not to demean the Ipod, Ipod Touch, Iphone, and Ipad. Those were all huge innovations- but tech has moved past them, and Apple can't/won't innovate anymore. Why buy an ultra expensive Ipad when I can buy a much less expensive GalaxyTab that does all the same things? Or a new Windows Surface (or other windows tablet) which is also less expensive and has all the benefits of a desktop/laptop OS with all of the advantages of a tablet? Apple will go back to where it was in the late 90s/ early 2000s within just a few more years. Based on my original prediction, they have 4 - 9 (or is it 3 - 8?- my original thought was 5 - 10 after Jobs died).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:02 AM (PYAXX)

273 89 See, here's my thing. I know the fucking Congress hasn't done it's damn job in forever and a day, so we don't actually have a functioning budget. But anybody paid federal dollars is paid out of the federal coffers (meaning our pockets, but you know that). Has the Preezy's decision to go all Executive Fiat on the federal contract minimum wage been factored into any continuing resolutions? Because I'd like to know where he's going to lay his hands on the money necessary to jack up those wages for 2million workers. Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at January 28, 2014 12:21 PM (4df7R) As always, you have to read the fine print. This wage increase will only apply to NEW hires under NEW contracts, starting in 2015. No need to go ask Congress for a budget increase. Of course, that won't stop the MFM from breathlessly declaring that Fightin' Barack has used his Magic Superpowers to give 2 million workers a raise. Posted by: rockmom at January 28, 2014 12:28 PM (Q4elb) If you like your current government contract you can keep your current government contract.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 28, 2014 09:03 AM (LI48c)

274 Thunderb @ 16-
He will indeed suspend elections, or make congress do away with the 2-and-out rule. He can do it and he will do it. So, what will stop him? Ideally, The Second Coming Of Christ. If Christ tarries, well,  'others' will be forced to take a stand.

Posted by: Erowmero at January 28, 2014 09:03 AM (OONaw)

275 "Plausible" = "things that will/may work but will dry up the speaking gigs for our Establishment Betters."

No, "plausible" = "solutions that exclude delusional pipe dreams such as impeachment".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 09:03 AM (SY2Kh)

276 DG's response to the SOTU: "Everything that stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable traitor just said is bullshit." *mic drop*

Posted by: DangerGirl Telecommunications at January 28, 2014 09:03 AM (zEeUf)

277

can someone please tell the JEF that we are not the richest nation in the world?

 

 

We are the brokest, $17T in issued debt alone not counting our other obligations

 

 

 

Posted by: The Obvious Sock at January 28, 2014 09:04 AM (W6iIX)

278 Holy shit, did Hollowpoint just prevaricate when challenged on a topic he was snarking about moments before? 


It must be a day of the year ending in 'day'.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 28, 2014 09:04 AM (POP6j)

279 I actually don't hate Apple. I mainly just hate a large % of the Apple users. It's just a dumb luxury brand popular with the ruling class progressive trash.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:04 AM (ZPrif)

280 ASOHQ should be  Apple/PC   iPhone/Android  flame wars free zone.

Posted by: Sphynx at January 28, 2014 09:04 AM (OZmbA)

281 Did you hear? Consumer Confidence is up! Do you know why? Because the govt 'shutdown' is over. I shit you not; that's what they're saying today.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 09:04 AM (UAzle)

282 wrong, look at Apple's international market share, #s don't lie Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 12:57 PM (ZPrif) I want to say it was a Wired article on CES that mentioned that Apple has a problem since CES draws the bleeding edge of tech users and writers and that the personal phones might be iphone but the business phones were Android based due to the larger size of the keyboard and the need of that for business email and the like. There was a specific comparison of Apple to RIM. People forget that Apple was doing horribly when Jobs was brought back on board. As soon as it was announced that he was so ill, I started wondering if history was going to repeat itself when he passed. It looks like it might.

Posted by: alexthechick - Please SMOD. Just for me? at January 28, 2014 09:05 AM (VtjlW)

283 Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution, Boehner said only, “There are options that are available to us.”


We have our best team of chimpanzees examining our options as we speak.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 28, 2014 09:05 AM (8ZskC)

284 It's been a long time since I fucked with government contracts, but as I remember it, no one was working for minimum wage. As part of other provisions imposed on federal contractors, there were minimums set that corresponded to entry level laborer/clerk federal pay. It was over $10 per hour years ago, so probably near $15 now. This is probably just a bullshit "look how much I care" act for the SOTU, with no real effect on anyone.

Posted by: jwest at January 28, 2014 09:05 AM (u2a4R)

285 Soona ... if your Roth is post-tax dollars, you can pull the principal without penalty. The trick is parking that cash somewhere. Paying down or paying off your mortgage is one option.

That's my plan, and if Barry says the word tonite ... it happens tomorrow.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 12:59 PM (mVJPE)

 

 

------------------------------------------------

 

 

I paid off my mortgage with my 401k.  I'm in what one might call a working retirement.  I doubt very seriously that I'll stop working unless physical conditions demand that I do.

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 09:06 AM (AIfv5)

286 I don't know what "options" Boehner is referring to.  Anything Obama doesn't like He will just ignore.  At this point they could impeach Him and vote to remove Him from office, and He would just ignore it and keep going.  Frankly I would hardly put it past Him to just keep Himself in office if the GOP wins in 2016 - at this point, there's not much to stop Him, and 40+ percent of the country would probably be fine with it.

Posted by: Norcross at January 28, 2014 09:06 AM (tmDTL)

287 look, it's simple, as Schumer and company have said, it's all about roads. Therefore, we need to tie wages to roads, or something. The point being, the government built the roads and therefore they can set the wages as a tax for using those roads.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 09:06 AM (QxSug)

288 Shorter Drew:

What do we want?
WE DON'T KNOW!
When do we want it?
NOW!

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 09:06 AM (SY2Kh)

289 281
Did you hear? Consumer Confidence is up!

Do you know why? Because the govt 'shutdown' is over.

I shit you not; that's what they're saying today.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 01:04 PM (UAzle)


So in other words they're just making shit up. Good to know.

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 09:06 AM (RD7QR)

290 Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 01:00 PM (SY2Kh) So your suggestion is just to "lie back and think of England" while someone destroys our Constitutional Republic. I don't care if they *think* they can "plausibly do anything." If they loved this country half as much as the Horde does, they'd be screaming from the f*cking rooftops about his continuous unconstitutional power-grabs. They'd be preparing articles of impeachment. They'd be actually throwing some of his f*cking cronies in jail. Instead, they're looking to Amnesty to Save Us All! F*ck that.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:06 AM (PYAXX)

291 wrong, look at Apple's international market share, #s don't lie Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 12:57 PM (ZPrif) If you read what I said, I said they just signed with China- meaning future sales which, as future does do not show up on current sales figures.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 09:06 AM (t3UFN)

292 Apple products are for fags.

Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 09:07 AM (343t9)

293 Did you hear? Consumer Confidence is up! And such are the Rhetorical Rose Petals spread before the Mocha Messia's Holy Path to the Sacred Lecturn on this Blessed Evening. All Hail Barack the Magnificent!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b] at January 28, 2014 09:07 AM (0HooB)

294 Is it Apple's operating system  that has  mostly  protected  from  hacking / viruses  or the fact that  hackers  don't  waste their time coming up with hacking solution to the OS  because  the PC has 85% of the  market?

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 09:07 AM (m2CN7)

295 hollowpoint aptly named

Posted by: thunderb at January 28, 2014 09:07 AM (zOTsN)

296 Apple puts out some good tech obviously. But most of the price premium is the luxury branding.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:08 AM (ZPrif)

297 The brick wall of Immigration Reform. Boehner is an asshole.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2014 09:08 AM (4T5lL)

298
Hey, he's naked.

Posted by: Media Boy who can finally see Emperor has no clothes at January 28, 2014 09:08 AM (OZmbA)

299 It's comforting to know our Establishment Betters and their apologist enablers can't think of anything to do against a power grabby executive. Not. One. Thing. Other than lie back and enjoy it, that is.

Posted by: @JohnTant at January 28, 2014 09:08 AM (opa0b)

300

If it looks like the GOP isn't doing much about Obama's abuse of power, it's because there's not a whole hell of a lot they can plausibly do.

 

Shut it down.

 

Fuck the lowfo mofo's.

 

Fuck the press.

 

Arrest any park guard refusing entrance to national property.

 

The dog-eating crackhead can't do shit if he doesn't have money.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 09:08 AM (zF6Iw)

301 Very well said, Allen. You should think of starting a blog.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 28, 2014 09:08 AM (LSJmV)

302 any chance some federal contractor who is ready to retire would try to bring a legal challenge to this? After all, we keep hearing that Congress was given the authority to regulate interstate commerce.

I wouldn't bet on it, though. Imagine what the IRS and DOJ and DOL would do to the poor sap who was foolhardy enough to challenge His Majestry.

Posted by: Mallfly at January 28, 2014 09:08 AM (bJm7W)

303 Three more years.

Posted by: Soona at January 28, 2014 09:09 AM (AIfv5)

304 Is it Apple's operating system that has mostly protected from hacking / viruses or the fact that hackers don't waste their time coming up with hacking solution to the OS because the PC has 85% of the market? Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 01:07 PM (m2CN7) Good. And all my Apple products actually work, unlike the Dell Windows 8 computer I have that is mostly a worthless piece of shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 09:09 AM (t3UFN)

305 294 Is it Apple's operating system that has mostly protected from hacking / viruses or the fact that hackers don't waste their time coming up with hacking solution to the OS because the PC has 85% of the market?

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 01:07 PM (m2CN7)


A bit of the former but mostly the latter.

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 09:09 AM (RD7QR)

306 It was Ice Cream!

Posted by: Heidi Klum at January 28, 2014 09:09 AM (343t9)

307 Here's what's gonna happen tonight: Boner And The R's will applaud obama's Amnesty, but tepidly. Then they'll send out McRogers Morris and either she won't mention Amnesty at all or she'll sternly declare that they'll only agree to Amnesty if 'security' is the top priority.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 09:10 AM (UAzle)

308 I don't care if they *think* they can "plausibly do anything."

Of course you don't, pumpkin.  It might get in the way of your goofball impeachment fantasies.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 09:10 AM (SY2Kh)

309 This lawlessness and the GOP's helplessness should crystalize the strategy required for 2014. The fucking senate. Reid has, in his alleged pederasty ways, by doing nothing...enabled Obama. If we get the Senate, that ALL changes. Then we have leverage. So, the most important battle this year is to take the senate and we need to figure out how to do it, which states to invest in. Oh, and also, we need to not get Frankened this election cycle. We need lawyers ready to go.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 09:10 AM (QxSug)

310 Well, good for Apple to try a different strategy cause they've been hemorrhaging market share for years in Europe and Asia.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:10 AM (ZPrif)

311 And BTW, I own and love Apple products but I've always hated the hipster-cult aspect. Just sell good, interesting tech and stop trying to be the cool kids on the block.

Posted by: joncelli at January 28, 2014 09:11 AM (RD7QR)

312
The minimum wage is a payoff to unions, as many of their contracts are tied to what the federal wage is, so if that is raised they get a raise too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 28, 2014 09:12 AM (n0DEs)

313

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 01:06 PM (PYAXX)

 

A-fucking-men.  Preach it, brother!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 09:12 AM (zF6Iw)

314 301 Very well said, Allen. You should think of starting a blog. Posted by: Countrysquire at January 28, 2014 01:08 PM (LSJmV) Yep, definitely you should start a blog, Allen. And maybe a Twitter account.

Posted by: MikeH at January 28, 2014 09:12 AM (ZdA3v)

315 in before the Fraction Fraidycats! (they only control 1/2 of 1/3 of 1/10 of 1/5 of govt!)

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 09:12 AM (UAzle)

316 Newed Ace on Gutfeld.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 28, 2014 09:12 AM (LSJmV)

317

Reid has, in his alleged pederasty ways, by doing nothing...enabled Obama.

 

Since we are bashing people supposedly on our side ,  remember the NRA endorsed this piece of shit.  

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 09:12 AM (m2CN7)

318 Jethuth Chritht.
Hath anyone figured out thith thtupid O Eth Theven?
My iPad Hathen't worked thinth I inthtalled it.

Posted by: Mr. Slave at January 28, 2014 09:13 AM (pgQxn)

319 Of course you don't, pumpkin. It might get in the way of your goofball impeachment fantasies. Yeah, that's it. I *really* think he's going to be successfully impeached. No, I don't. But I do know that you don't just lie down and take it when someone is beating the everloving fuck out of you. You fucking stand up and fight the fuck back you fucking sub-moron. You do everything in your power to confound and confuse him. You throw his fucking cronies in jail- including David fucking Gregory (the House had a great deal of influence in how DC is run, after all). You bring unending ethics charges against him, his cabinet, and the Dems in the Senate. You don't pass one fucking piece of legislation until he releases his hold on the the powers he has usurped. You shut it all the fuck down. Because to do less is to consign the Republic to the flames. And if you're going to do THAT, then at least be a man and start the fire yourself.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:13 AM (PYAXX)

320 Of course you don't, pumpkin. It might get in the way of your goofball impeachment fantasies.

 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 01:10 PM (SY2Kh)

 

How about sharing one of those "plausible" solutions, nickelfucker?  Or just admit you got nothing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 09:13 AM (zF6Iw)

321 Yes, please MSM show which Republicans are applauding Obama's call for amnesty. That will be a quick and easy indicator of which Republicans need to lose their primaries.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (0cMkb)

322 Yes, please MSM show which Republicans are applauding Obama's call for amnesty. That will be a quick and easy indicator of which Republicans need to lose their primaries.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (0cMkb)

323 Yes, please MSM show which Republicans are applauding Obama's call for amnesty. That will be a quick and easy indicator of which Republicans need to lose their primaries.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (0cMkb)

324 Yes, please MSM show which Republicans are applauding Obama's call for amnesty. That will be a quick and easy indicator of which Republicans need to lose their primaries.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (0cMkb)

325 Meh, my sister's new MacBook just up and died last week. She dropped it slightly and it died. I've dropped my Dell a half dozen times and it's fine. Apple doesn't have an appreciable difference in quality. Everything has a low failure rate. Sucks to get a lemon but it happens to all of them occasionally. When it comes to smartphones and tablets all the best apps work on iOS, Android, and Windows. The experience is basically the same. They are commodities.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (ZPrif)

326 Meh, my sister's new MacBook just up and died last week. She dropped it slightly and it died. I've dropped my Dell a half dozen times and it's fine. Apple doesn't have an appreciable difference in quality. Everything has a low failure rate. Sucks to get a lemon but it happens to all of them occasionally. When it comes to smartphones and tablets all the best apps work on iOS, Android, and Windows. The experience is basically the same. They are commodities.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (ZPrif)

327 Meh, my sister's new MacBook just up and died last week. She dropped it slightly and it died. I've dropped my Dell a half dozen times and it's fine. Apple doesn't have an appreciable difference in quality. Everything has a low failure rate. Sucks to get a lemon but it happens to all of them occasionally. When it comes to smartphones and tablets all the best apps work on iOS, Android, and Windows. The experience is basically the same. They are commodities.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (ZPrif)

328 Meh, my sister's new MacBook just up and died last week. She dropped it slightly and it died. I've dropped my Dell a half dozen times and it's fine. Apple doesn't have an appreciable difference in quality. Everything has a low failure rate. Sucks to get a lemon but it happens to all of them occasionally. When it comes to smartphones and tablets all the best apps work on iOS, Android, and Windows. The experience is basically the same. They are commodities.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (ZPrif)

329 If we get the Senate, that ALL changes. Bullshit. Give me ANY evidence that the Senate GOP would somehow start opposing Obama's agenda. They've shown no inclination to do so thus far.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (PYAXX)

330 If we get the Senate, that ALL changes. Bullshit. Give me ANY evidence that the Senate GOP would somehow start opposing Obama's agenda. They've shown no inclination to do so thus far.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (PYAXX)

331 If we get the Senate, that ALL changes. Bullshit. Give me ANY evidence that the Senate GOP would somehow start opposing Obama's agenda. They've shown no inclination to do so thus far.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (PYAXX)

332 If we get the Senate, that ALL changes. Bullshit. Give me ANY evidence that the Senate GOP would somehow start opposing Obama's agenda. They've shown no inclination to do so thus far.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:14 AM (PYAXX)

333 Why do republicans think we want to listen to 3 different people blather on about the speech tonight? That really does underscore quite clearly for America that the GOP is no longer a unified voice.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 09:15 AM (RZ8pf)

334 Why do republicans think we want to listen to 3 different people blather on about the speech tonight? That really does underscore quite clearly for America that the GOP is no longer a unified voice.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 09:15 AM (RZ8pf)

335 Why do republicans think we want to listen to 3 different people blather on about the speech tonight? That really does underscore quite clearly for America that the GOP is no longer a unified voice.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 09:15 AM (RZ8pf)

336 Why do republicans think we want to listen to 3 different people blather on about the speech tonight? That really does underscore quite clearly for America that the GOP is no longer a unified voice.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 09:15 AM (RZ8pf)

337 any chance some federal contractor who is ready to retire would try to bring a legal challenge to this? After all, we keep hearing that Congress was given the authority to regulate interstate commerce. There is no basis--They're protected via the Federal Acquisition Regulations...automatic price adjustment. Like I said above, he just committed $8 billion bucks via an authority he doesn't have.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 28, 2014 09:15 AM (659DL)

338 any chance some federal contractor who is ready to retire would try to bring a legal challenge to this? After all, we keep hearing that Congress was given the authority to regulate interstate commerce. There is no basis--They're protected via the Federal Acquisition Regulations...automatic price adjustment. Like I said above, he just committed $8 billion bucks via an authority he doesn't have.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 28, 2014 09:15 AM (659DL)

339 any chance some federal contractor who is ready to retire would try to bring a legal challenge to this? After all, we keep hearing that Congress was given the authority to regulate interstate commerce. There is no basis--They're protected via the Federal Acquisition Regulations...automatic price adjustment. Like I said above, he just committed $8 billion bucks via an authority he doesn't have.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 28, 2014 09:15 AM (659DL)

340 any chance some federal contractor who is ready to retire would try to bring a legal challenge to this? After all, we keep hearing that Congress was given the authority to regulate interstate commerce. There is no basis--They're protected via the Federal Acquisition Regulations...automatic price adjustment. Like I said above, he just committed $8 billion bucks via an authority he doesn't have.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 28, 2014 09:15 AM (659DL)

341 Because to do less is to consign the Republic to the flames. And if you're going to do THAT, then at least be a man and start the fire yourself.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 01:13 PM (PYAXX)

 

From the man who constantly screams to let it burn.   Do you see the inconsistency in expectations  from people.   You want them to fight but you have decided you want it to burn.   Sheesh,  you're better than that. 

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 09:16 AM (m2CN7)

342 Because to do less is to consign the Republic to the flames. And if you're going to do THAT, then at least be a man and start the fire yourself.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 01:13 PM (PYAXX)

 

From the man who constantly screams to let it burn.   Do you see the inconsistency in expectations  from people.   You want them to fight but you have decided you want it to burn.   Sheesh,  you're better than that. 

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 09:16 AM (m2CN7)

343 Because to do less is to consign the Republic to the flames. And if you're going to do THAT, then at least be a man and start the fire yourself.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 01:13 PM (PYAXX)

 

From the man who constantly screams to let it burn.   Do you see the inconsistency in expectations  from people.   You want them to fight but you have decided you want it to burn.   Sheesh,  you're better than that. 

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 09:16 AM (m2CN7)

344 Because to do less is to consign the Republic to the flames. And if you're going to do THAT, then at least be a man and start the fire yourself.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 01:13 PM (PYAXX)

 

From the man who constantly screams to let it burn.   Do you see the inconsistency in expectations  from people.   You want them to fight but you have decided you want it to burn.   Sheesh,  you're better than that. 

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 09:16 AM (m2CN7)

345 Allen ... are you going the "conservative or sit home" route - or full bore "Conservative or against RINO" route ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 09:18 AM (mVJPE)

346
in before the Fraction Fraidycats! (they only control 1/2 of 1/3 of 1/10 of 1/5 of govt!)
Posted by: soothsayer




The 'ol Fibonacci Spiral of excuses....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 28, 2014 09:18 AM (kdS6q)

347 The minimum wage is a payoff to unions, as many of their contracts are tied to what the federal wage is, so if that is raised they get a raise too. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 28, 2014 01:12 PM (n0DEs) And as I said, that's going to make contractors in RTW states FAR more attractive.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 28, 2014 09:18 AM (T0NGe)

348 Well, yeah, if we put McCain as Senate Maj Leader, nothing will change. I don't think the current GOP leadership has much interest in cutting spending or going head to head with Obama. But who knows who the new Senators will be.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 09:19 AM (QxSug)

349 Apple doesn't have an appreciable difference in quality. Well I beg to differ on that, I think Apples hardware is much better since they have direct control over it. The ONLY Apple Laptop, that ever died in my family was the one my collage age daughter dropped done the dorm steps. And as far as Windows 8, well it sucks worse than Vista

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 09:20 AM (t3UFN)

350 There could be HD video of Obama declaring himself Emperor, selling Hawaii to the Chinese for gold bars to be placed in his personal account in Brazil and there still wouldn't be an impeachment.

Posted by: Daybrother at January 28, 2014 09:21 AM (ZyZwo)

351  Well, yeah, if we put McCain as Senate Maj Leader, nothing will change.

I don't think the current GOP leadership has much interest in cutting spending or going head to head with Obama. But who knows who the new Senators will be.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 01:19 PM (QxSug)

 

Hopefully McCain will lose in 2016.   He has been  censured in his own stated by the Republicans.    That is a good sign. 

Posted by: polynikes at January 28, 2014 09:21 AM (m2CN7)

352 However, Reid's senate has done ZERO. Recall the fights we had with Clinton, we overcame his veto. Remember, Obama's shitty shitty budgets have been defeated with zero votes in favor. Sadly, this comes down to confidence. Confidence in our ideas and the current GOP thinks that amnesty is the tits. Hopefully, leadership can be changed.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 09:21 AM (QxSug)

353 How about sharing one of those "plausible" solutions, nickelfucker? Or just admit you got nothing.

As far as I can tell, there isn't a plausible solution, not without far more public backing.

Which is the reason I'm not bitching about GOP inaction.  Unlike you in the "How dare you not do something but I don't know what" contingent.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 09:21 AM (SY2Kh)

354 From the man who constantly screams to let it burn. Nope. I say burn it down. Scatter the stones. And salt the earth where it stood. And that, itself, is fighting. Ask Hitler and Napoleon if it isn't. And, yes, I want them to fight- but I know they won't. Whether it's because they're too comfortable, too afraid, or actively part of the enemy is immaterial. They've proven they won't fight- so they're part of the problem. Read the comment again- I just want them to take responsibility. EITHER fight OR acknowledge that we're all screwed and just put it out of its misery. But DON'T sit here and whine to me about not having any options.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:21 AM (PYAXX)

355 I don't think the current GOP leadership has much interest in cutting spending or going head to head with Obama. But who knows who the new Senators will be. I remember hearing they were going to fight, fight, fight when Reid nuked the filibuster.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2014 09:22 AM (Ttj5v)

356 The House GOP "will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing laws, as he took an oath to do,” Boehner told reporters after a meeting of the Republican conference. Yawn. Looking is all this asshole has done, and is going to do.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 28, 2014 09:23 AM (itCai)

357 Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) says it was women joining the workforce after World War II that helped the economy grow, producing a “strong and healthy middle class.” Yeah ah NO. The WAR made the economy grow and as soon as it was over the vimen were sent home to make room for the Men returning from war. But nice try

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 28, 2014 09:23 AM (t3UFN)

358 There could be HD video of Obama declaring himself Emperor, selling Hawaii to the Chinese for gold bars to be placed in his personal account in Brazil and there still wouldn't be an impeachment. ****** that's because the current GOP leadership thinks they can't govern without approval from the whitepeopleproblems and IloveObamanomatterWut voting blocs. Liek I said with the NFL, if you hate your base, then you will never win. Current GOP fashion is to be still scared of Obama. 2014 may change that. We can't run on "obama is a nice guy who made a boo boo" We need to start saying "obama is chicago thug who is basically illiterate"

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 09:23 AM (QxSug)

359 As far as I can tell, there isn't a plausible solution, not without far more public backing. So if we're fucked anyway, why object to people trying things?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2014 09:24 AM (Ttj5v)

360 Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 01:18 PM (mVJPE) Right now? I'm on the fence. Mostly it's going to be race-by-race, and it'll depend on the particular Republican running. As angry as I am at Cornyn, I'm not going to pretend that he isn't worlds better than any Democrat who will run against him. So when he wins the primary (dammit), I'll probably vote for him. Unless he (or the GOP) does something to really piss me off between now and November.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:25 AM (PYAXX)

361 Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) says it was women joining the workforce after World War II that helped the economy grow, producing a “strong and healthy middle class.” ******** You got to love liberal mythmaking. The only thing that saved the US economy was FDR dying and Ike being popular enough to finally get a republican elected president. Entering the workforce? Right, that brought down the value of labor. supply and demnad and all that. However, since most of the female entrants were secretaries (and continues to be so today), I don't really think she has a point.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 09:25 AM (QxSug)

362

Any GOP candidate up in 2014 should strongly consider a very public walkout tonite.

 

Not en masse. One at a time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 09:25 AM (mVJPE)

363 No, I don't. But I do know that you don't just lie down and take it when someone is beating the everloving fuck out of you. You fucking stand up and fight the fuck back you fucking sub-moron.

Ah, yes.  "stand up and fight".  Why has nobody considered such a well thought out, detailed and foolproof plan?

We're unlikely to hear a more meaningless statement today until the SOTU address.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 09:26 AM (SY2Kh)

364 Allen ... I'm in Conservative or No Vote territory, but I understand the conundrum.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 28, 2014 09:28 AM (mVJPE)

365 stand and fight, etc? GOP needs confidence in its values. It has none. That needs to change. We need a Gingrich for 2014. Otherwise, it will continue the current pissing in their pants, who farted? strategy in which the only faintest criticism of obama is allowed (he just screwed up, it's not that he's a chicago thug with no fucking clue)*. * indeed, note how light "our" side has criticized obama while the media and friends have reacted like the GOP is in full scale war. Can you imagine the shriekery if we get the Senate and put Cruz in charge? Why...it'd be 1994 all over again. And, lo, 1994 was good.** ** indeed, all of Clinton's accomplishments are how you say, appropriations of the GOP successes in that era.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 09:29 AM (QxSug)

366 Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 01:26 PM (SY2Kh) Nice how you ignored all the actual suggestions there, skippy. Do you have an actual problem with, say, appointing special prosecutors in re: Benghazi and F&F? Or do you just like to pretend that it'll all be okay if we just wait it out for 3 more years?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at January 28, 2014 09:30 AM (PYAXX)

367 This applies to 2 million workers, huh ? Does that mean, the order applies to all federal contracted workers, of which there are 2 million ? How many ACTUAL people are working on federal contracts AND making minimum wage ? I want that number.

Posted by: deadrody at January 28, 2014 09:30 AM (b2D8X)

368 So if we're fucked anyway, why object to people trying things?

I'm objecting to people who reflexively blame Republican inaction without themselves knowing what action should be taken.

"Just do something" or "Stand up and FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT" isn't a plan or solution.

Ditto with implausible fantasies such as impeachment or somebody making mass arrests for some unspecified crime.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 09:30 AM (SY2Kh)

369 Current GOP fashion is to be still scared of Obama. I don't think they are. I think claiming impotence is a convenient excuse for allowing Obama to do things they want to do. The GOP doesn't give a shit about cutting budgets or solvency. They don't care about Obamacare. In every case they raise the debt ceiling or really defund Obamacare, they vote for it. They simply have a different set of priorities, namely keeping their big donors happy. Those guys want stable markets, slave labor, and no unrest. That's what the GOP wants.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2014 09:30 AM (pmDdf)

370
I miss Blagoskull.

*snif*


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 28, 2014 09:31 AM (TIIx5)

371 I'm objecting to people who reflexively blame Republican inaction without themselves knowing what action should be taken. You objected to Cruz attempting any action. Why?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2014 09:32 AM (pmDdf)

372 Do you have an actual problem with, say, appointing special prosecutors in re: Benghazi and F&F? Or do you just like to pretend that it'll all be okay if we just wait it out for 3 more years?

You do know that the law authorizing independent council expired in 1999, right?

Good luck convincing Obama's DOJ to appoint one.  Add that to the list of implausible fantasies.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 09:37 AM (SY2Kh)

373 As angry as I am at Cornyn, I'm not going to pretend that he isn't worlds better than any Democrat who will run against him. So when he wins the primary (dammit), I'll probably vote for him. This isn't a personal swipe at you, but this is the kind of damage that RINOs tend to inflict. And the Republican Party just keeps on drifting to the left...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 28, 2014 09:37 AM (itCai)

374 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 28, 2014 01:30 PM (pmDdf) This

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 28, 2014 09:39 AM (pginn)

375 You objected to Cruz attempting any action. Why?

Because in the name of self-aggrandizement he did more harm than good, and predictably so.

We got nothing for the effort, and now the threat of shutdown is effectively off the table.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 28, 2014 09:40 AM (SY2Kh)

376 yeah, the current GOP seems to not care. But that may be because they only have house. But they're living in the dems' fan fiction universe where 1996 shutdown was the worst thing ever and viola 2013's shutdown was so bad. It's funny how they get blamed for shutdown but no credit for trying to stop unpopular obamacare See what the left did to chrisie and the bridge yet obama's hard core evil intent is no issue.

Posted by: oeJay44incday endorses Cotton Mather Night Rider Puritan Holy War on Strumpets and Wastrels at January 28, 2014 09:40 AM (QxSug)

377 "Asked what the House would do if lawmakers determined Obama skirted the Constitution ..."

No one in recent memory skirted the Constitution like Bill Clinton, and the press still loves him.

Posted by: mrp at January 28, 2014 09:47 AM (JBggj)

378 The effect of the Executive Order will make it even more difficult for small businesses to compete for Federal contracts. So we'll have to increase the budget for the SBA to make up for all of that. Nationalization of everything, baby, that's where we're going.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at January 28, 2014 09:49 AM (pginn)

379 If the president wants future contracts to ensure all contracted employees are paid $10.10/hr, that is perfectly fine. Whether the government should be making its endeavors more expensive is another question.

Posted by: Crispian at January 28, 2014 09:52 AM (n9Zp5)

380 If Jay Carney resigns, Boehner can take his job.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 28, 2014 09:57 AM (4Chvm)

381 Forget the flaming skull, it would be much more appropriate to use a flaming U.S. Constitution or even a Declaration of Independence when it comes to reporting what this administration is doing.

Posted by: doug at January 28, 2014 10:22 AM (uJ8q7)

382

Howz about if our side makes the next Speaker somebody who can, you know, SPEAK?

I nominate Rush.

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at January 28, 2014 02:20 PM (ph30l)

383

Why does POTARD want to prevent govmint contractors from hiring low-skilled people? How's that going to help bring down unemployment, exactly?

Posted by: J. Moses Browning at January 28, 2014 02:21 PM (ph30l)

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