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February 17, 2014

Occidental Petroleum Tells California "GTT"
— Dave in Texas

OXY is moving their HQ to Houston Texas from Los Angeles after a century in California. They announced their intention to spin off California operations and focus on their highly productive west Texas Permian Basin holdings in a state that welcomes shale production because Black Gold Texas Tea has propelled Texas into the number one state for oil and gas production. Which means high paying good jobs (over a half million and growing in the past five years), and pumped billions of dollars into our economy and state budget.

California conversely has been very stingy with permits, even though they may be sitting on even larger fields than Eagle Ford, Permian Basin and North Dakota/Montana/Saskatchewan/Manitoba Bakken deposits.

Which is why they are spinning off their California operations.

A move to Houston will allow the company to focus on its operations in the Permian Basin in Texas and spin off its less productive California division. The new California company, which will employ about 8,000 people, will be the state's biggest natural gas producer and "establish its headquarters" in the Golden State, the statement said. It will continue operations in oil and gas basins including Los Angeles and San Joaquin.

I'm going to make a crazy prediction here. The environmentalists will lose an argument against billions of dollars in new state revenues. They'll put up a fight, it'll be ugly. But when the dust settles the lure of the money will be too much. And in five to ten years California will experience a surge in energy production that will bring jobs back.

Nothing else will do that.

America is on the verge of oil and gas energy independence. Something we were told could never happen.

Well (SWIDT?). Technology unlocks potential and prosperity. Like a boss.

Charts below the fold thingy.

The red line is what's happening in my pants

I can do this one too but I need to stretch first

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 08:25 AM | Comments (220)
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1 fustest with the mostest

Posted by: berserker lurker at February 17, 2014 08:27 AM (8k6km)

2 Cheap, safely produced energy fuels a healthy 21st Century economy.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at February 17, 2014 08:28 AM (0zXml)

3 When it serves his purpose, the Obaaamatrons will steal credit for this boom.

Posted by: RoyalOil at February 17, 2014 08:29 AM (VjL9S)

4 the look on the Saudi Arabian's face would give me a woodrow

Posted by: berserker lurker at February 17, 2014 08:29 AM (8k6km)

5 But.. but.. global warming crisis!!11!!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 17, 2014 08:31 AM (Z7PrM)

6 I remember reading an article that was in Readers Digest so I don't know the actual source, n the 70s, Carter's 70s, which was pushing back on the running out of oil "science" of the time (we were going to run out in 1985). One of the sources of oil that the article talked about was shale oil. Shale oil would be the largest source of oil, but it was too expensive then to produce it. A cost of $35 a barrel would be necessary to make it happen, though.

Posted by: blaster at February 17, 2014 08:33 AM (4+AaH)

7 he look on the Saudi Arabian's face would give me a woodrow

Posted by: berserker lurker
............
They really don't give a shit if we're their customer or not. There are more than enough buyers. And Arabian oil is still the cheapest to get out of the ground and, subsequently, still the most profitable.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 17, 2014 08:33 AM (Z7PrM)

8 Not to brag like a Texan BUT according to those charts TX kicks out 1 Billion barrels of oil/yr. Even in our slump, it was 300 million /yr.

Posted by: dogfish at February 17, 2014 08:34 AM (nsOJa)

9 Well (SWIDT?)
Huh?

Posted by: derrick jone at February 17, 2014 08:34 AM (vAnfs)

10 I have been saying.... for YEARS... That the Repubs, or an Alternative party, have a HUGE campaign issue in California... they could Sweep elections... By Pitting the Greens, against everyone else. Most people out here don't go to the stinkin Beach... and certainly can't afford to live there... yet WE pay for THEIR View? Hell.... another campaign issue? Take the Damn money to be spent on High Speed Rail and do something PRODUCTIVE with it... like build a couple of Desalination Plants in the delta, to MAKE fresh Water, to HELP during the Droughts we have ALWAYS had in California. But the GOP out here is made up of Entrenched Rich Idiots... who don't want THEIR view spoiled...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 08:34 AM (84gbM)

11 Republicans need to find a pro-oil California conservative name Garcia or Fernandez or Lopez and run on a Drill, Baby, Drill platform It's a huge political opening the Left has created in California. All these rich white liberals with their beach front houses keeping millions of hispanics poor in the Inland Empire. Play the race card, play the oil card, and win California.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 08:35 AM (ZPrif)

12 well. oil well iswydt

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 08:35 AM (ZPrif)

13 3 When it serves his purpose, the Obaaamatrons will steal credit for this boom. Posted by: RoyalOil at February 17, 2014 12:29 PM (VjL9S) That is how you know someone is retarded, or just a typical Democrat asshole.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 17, 2014 08:36 AM (LIQGY)

** This is ready to post just take out this line. I was saving it for a slow time **

Heh.

Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2014 08:37 AM (LI48c)

15 Draaaaaaaiiiinage!

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2014 08:37 AM (g1DWB)

16 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 08:37 AM (PYAXX)

17 When lived in CA if you drove down interstate 5 from SF once you got down in the southern areas you could see well after well pumping away. I guess that is no more.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 17, 2014 08:38 AM (T2V/1)

>> Even in our slump, it was 300 million /yr.

Yeah. To put it into perspective, Texas went from producing 24% of all domestic oil and gas to 33%

Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 17, 2014 08:38 AM (WvXvd)

19 Play the race card, play the oil card, and win California. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 12:35 PM (ZPrif) How many "paths to victory" does the National GOP have if both TX & CA are Red?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 08:39 AM (PYAXX)

20 I can do this one too but I need to stretch first

Well hello there.

Posted by: HR at February 17, 2014 08:39 AM (ZKzrr)

21 Most people out here don't go to the stinkin Beach... and certainly can't afford to live there... yet WE pay for THEIR View?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 12:34 PM (84gbM)

They had public beaches up where I was at but you could not stay in the water more than a few min w/o freezing to death.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 17, 2014 08:39 AM (T2V/1)

22 California does lead the nation in the production of sanctimonious assholes.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 17, 2014 08:40 AM (P1WNR)

>> ** This is ready to post just take out this line. I was saving it for a slow time **

Yeah, shit. I took it out but it'll live on in some browser caches.

Or these comments.

fack.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 17, 2014 08:40 AM (WvXvd)

24 Posted by: Vic at February 17, 2014 12:38 PM (T2V/1) They are still there... and some still pumping... But they need to do directional drilling (ie new dirlling) and fracking to really release large amounts of oil and gas. What you do not see in California... is what happened to the I-70 Corridor in Colorado.... around Rifle... where it was a drilling BOOM in the last few years, with new drilling all along that corridor.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 08:40 AM (84gbM)

25 I can tell you that oil and gas production in California is only done when it can be hidden from the populace. I can also tell you that the equipement used in California to extract it is grandfathered equipment, because they will not permit. California is doing for their petroleum industry the same thing they did to their electric industry and their water industry - NIMBY to the point of destroying their own economy.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 17, 2014 08:40 AM (eGmvn)

26 Posted by: Dr Spank at February 17, 2014 12:40 PM (P1WNR) It even beats MA? Is that on a gross basis, or per-capita?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 08:40 AM (PYAXX)

27 Tell me again why TX isn't its own country?

Posted by: dogfish at February 17, 2014 08:40 AM (nsOJa)

Republicans need to find a pro-oil California conservative name Garcia or Fernandez or Lopez and run on a Drill, Baby, Drill platform

It's a huge political opening the Left has created in California. All these rich white liberals with their beach front houses keeping millions of hispanics poor in the Inland Empire.

Play the race card, play the oil card, and win California.

Pudding!

*Throws Scooby-Doo lunchbox*

*Fucks couch*

Sorry...what?

Posted by: Teh GOP! at February 17, 2014 08:41 AM (BrQrN)

29 19 Play the race card, play the oil card, and win California. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 12:35 PM (ZPrif) How many "paths to victory" does the National GOP have if both TX & CA are Red? Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 12:39 PM (PYAXX) I would ask: how many does the National GOP NEED if TX and CA are red? Done dealy-o. But count on the ineffectual GOP to fuck up a winning situation as only they can.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 17, 2014 08:41 AM (LIQGY)

30 Peak oil!!!

Posted by: wooga at February 17, 2014 08:41 AM (4fgmE)

31 Posted by: dogfish at February 17, 2014 12:40 PM (nsOJa) Inertia.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 08:41 AM (PYAXX)

32 Take the Damn money to be spent on High Speed Rail and do something PRODUCTIVE with it... like build a couple of Desalination Plants in the delta, to MAKE fresh Water, to HELP during the Droughts we have ALWAYS had in California.

But the GOP out here is made up of Entrenched Rich Idiots... who don't want THEIR view spoiled...

Posted by: Romeo13

Good example, key thing for desal plants is power. And since CA is shutting down plants like San Onofre, we're going to have to have more power.

Build 3 to 4 4th generation nuclear plants on the coast, and buy the left over desal plans from Australia. They built a few under the Green Marxists of OZ insistence that the future would be a Mad Max wasteland. Reality intruded, of course, with floods.

Also, there was that $6 billion supposed to be spent on stem cell research. I haven't heard a peep on the results - surprise, surprise, surprise. Should go and clawback some of that money as well.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 17, 2014 08:42 AM (Yp6Vn)

33 19 Play the race card, play the oil card, and win California.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 12:35 PM (ZPrif)

How many "paths to victory" does the National GOP have if both TX & CA are Red?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 12:39 PM (PYAXX)

Don't you worry. They would still try their hardest to completely fuck up a scenario like that.

Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2014 08:42 AM (LI48c)

34 So those are global warming charts right

. (I kid, I kid.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 17, 2014 08:42 AM (GaqMa)

35 What you do not see in California... is what happened to the I-70 Corridor in Colorado.... around Rifle... where it was a drilling BOOM in the last few years, with new drilling all along that corridor. Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 12:40 PM (84gbM) One time I was driving up there, I counted at least 30 drilling rigs...only the ones you could see from the interstate. North of the interstate, shit be boomin'.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 17, 2014 08:43 AM (LIQGY)

36 Son is in Houston today for some job interviews. He currently lives in CA. Keep your fingers crossed & prayer one of these jobs comes through!

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 08:43 AM (bCEmE)

37 What will not be surprising will be the transferring California employees complaining about Texas . Houston specifically .

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at February 17, 2014 08:43 AM (9ek7+)

38 Posted by: model_1066 at February 17, 2014 12:41 PM (LIQGY) Seriously. I simply do not understand why the national GOP doesn't list out all the economically strong (or strengthening, if they had Dem "leadership" for the last few decades) GOP States (TX & WI jump to mind...) and then say: "These are Conservative solutions. We can bring them to your state, too."

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 08:43 AM (PYAXX)

39 The environmentalists will lose an argument against billions of dollars in new state revenues. They'll put up a fight, it'll be ugly. But when the dust settles the lure of the money will be too much.

-----

"I'll take that bet, you're gonna regret, cause Im the best thats ever been."

Dude... this is California. They wont let water flow down to the valley because of a bait fish. They're consciously destroying agriculture. You really think theyre going to value "jobs" more than the snail darter????

Posted by: fixerupper at February 17, 2014 08:44 AM (nELVU)

So those are global warming charts right .

(I kid, I kid.)

See you in court!

Posted by: Michael Mann - Formerly Self-proclaimed Nobel Laureate at February 17, 2014 08:44 AM (BrQrN)

41 Most importantly *smishes DiT* Hi. Occidental moving to Texas is about as major an interpretative dance of fuck you as there can be. Oh the tears, the delicious, delicious tears of woe. Bet this ramps up the calls for an exit tax on every person and business leaving Cali. Annnnnd obligatory: http://youtu.be/FdizL4on-Rc

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at February 17, 2014 08:44 AM (VtjlW)

42 37 Oh hell, I'm a lifelong Texan and I complain about Houston plenty.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone and Houston (sort of) at February 17, 2014 08:45 AM (yOnMP)

43 Note the chart well on Texas oil production going down down down and levelling off in 2000. Note well: the Saudis drove oil prices down to $9/barrel during the Clinton admin, forcing Texas oil fields to go quiet.

Now think about what caused the 2008 collapse in early Sept 2008 (9/11 again).
Foreign run on banks' money market funds. The only question was it the Saudis again? or the Chinese? or both?

Posted by: jb at February 17, 2014 08:45 AM (zNkrR)

44 37 What will not be surprising will be the transferring California employees complaining about Texas . Houston specifically . Posted by: Roc Ingersol at February 17, 2014 12:43 PM (9ek7+) Californians will not be able to change Houston into something it's not. Houston will break them.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 17, 2014 08:45 AM (LIQGY)

45 Matt Damon.

Posted by: Matt Damon at February 17, 2014 08:45 AM (Aif/5)

46 Oh hell, I'm a lifelong Texan and I complain about Houston plenty. I don't know about the rest of the State, but if those of us in DFW didn't have Houston, we'd be reduced to complaining about Dallas. Wait. We complain about Dallas anyway. Huh. Maybe they just both suck. (Kidding. Sort of.)

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 08:46 AM (PYAXX)

47 Houston is the right place for oil production, exploration, and R&D companies. Concentrated area of petroleum engineers, chemical engineers, and geologists.

Posted by: dogfish at February 17, 2014 08:46 AM (nsOJa)

48 Also, there was that $6 billion supposed to be spent on stem cell research. I haven't heard a peep on the results - surprise, surprise, surprise. Should go and clawback some of that money as well. Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 17, 2014 12:42 PM (Yp6Vn) I certain university here sponsored a FREAKING AMENDMENT to our state constitution that surprisingly makes it very hard to claw back that shitty ass spent money. I pointed out before that the goals of ESC research are frankly unachievable even with breakthroughs (it requires far to many embryos to ever make anything even approaching a cure. Even if you get it to a 1embryro:1patient ratio.) So even beyond the various moral arguments there's a practical one to overcome. Adult stem cell work doesn't have these problems, and so we should be throwing all the ESC research money there. Alas, people started talking about "lifesaving cures" and the damned amendment passed overwhelmingly. Total ESC cures: 0. Cord Blood cures alone: many.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 17, 2014 08:46 AM (GaqMa)

>> Well hello there.

Heh.

>> Most importantly *smishes DiT* Hi.

That is more important, yes.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 17, 2014 08:46 AM (WvXvd)

50 Windmills, all the way down.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at February 17, 2014 08:47 AM (Dwehj)

51 If the government must be involved in "fighting global climate change", as we are now entering a cooling period (the solar science on this is settled), it should be subsidizing fossil fuel based power like oil and coal...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 17, 2014 08:47 AM (P3U0f)

52 Dude... this is California. They wont let water flow down to the valley because of a bait fish. They're consciously destroying agriculture. You really think theyre going to value "jobs" more than the snail darter???? Posted by: fixerupper at February 17, 2014 12:44 PM (nELVU) That's the Feds doing that... its FED courts forcing it... Although the Lefty California Legislature and Gov are not really fighting it...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 08:47 AM (84gbM)

53 Go to California, tell the poor Mex-Americans working as maids and gardeners for rich white and asian liberal ... vote for me, vote Republican, and we will drill for oil and make your children rich. That's the sales pitch. Fuck the ocean front view of the Hollywood liberals. Do you want your children and grandchildren to be maids and gardeners? Vote Republican and they'll be rich oil workers. Prosperity for all, a chicken in every pot. Drill, baby, drill.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 08:48 AM (ZPrif)

54 They really don't give a shit if we're their customer or not. There are more than enough buyers. And Arabian oil is still the cheapest to get out of the ground and, subsequently, still the most profitable.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
===
Oh, they're worried, all right. Especially in the natural gas export and refined petroleum products markets. Petroleum is fungible, and we're set to become a world leader in petroleum exports. The big losers are the Russkies - all of that looting, cheating, grabbing, extortion business they inflicted on Western investors and oil companies has come around to bite them on the ass, big time. The Russians need to modernize their petroleum infrastructure now, and no one will deal with them without a lot of cash up front.

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2014 08:48 AM (JBggj)

55 They really don't give a shit if we're their customer or not. There are more than enough buyers. And Arabian oil is still the cheapest to get out of the ground and, subsequently, still the most profitable. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry true to a limited extent but our massive production will drive down prices on the world market plus their is not Iranian closing the straights of Hormuz problem here and with the huge natural gas field discovered on the Israeli coast, Leviathon, Europe will have another source of energy not dependent on Islamofacists Why do you think Spain, at the urging of Aznar, has been so eager to enhance relations with Israel of late

Posted by: thunderb at February 17, 2014 08:48 AM (zOTsN)

56 I have been banging the energy independence drum for years, I am glad it's finally coming to fruition

http://tinyurl.com/cbe27u

http://tinyurl.com/n3weuw6

Posted by: chad at February 17, 2014 08:48 AM (gYowz)

57 In the is case, Money Walks.

Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 08:49 AM (QupBk)

58 9 Well (SWIDT?)
Huh?

Posted by: derrick jone at February 17, 2014 12:34 PM (vAnfs)

See What I Did There?

Posted by: cheshirecat at February 17, 2014 08:49 AM (PLiMW)

59 Why are lefties always wrong? And on all things environmental, they are epically wrong! I remember being told in high school that the science was settled, and we were running out of oil. In a few years, everything would be drilled out and gone, and hence the push for alternative (not hydro or atomic) energy was crucial. That the U.S. was completely out of any new oil reserves. Well, I've been out of high school for more years than I care to admit, and as far as I can see, the U.S has a boatload of untapped potential. So if the science that was settled about fossil fuel stores in the U.S. (and around the world) was so wrong, how do these azzholes get to say the science is settled on global warming? These lying jerks are always wrong. It's so maddening!

Posted by: runningrn at February 17, 2014 08:49 AM (o6g4X)

60 Posted by: runningrn at February 17, 2014 12:49 PM (o6g4X) Remind them that fossil fuels are a form of solar power, and that they are dumb assholes.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 17, 2014 08:50 AM (LIQGY)

61 So my family has owned a feed and grain business in Texas for over 100 years. Well about a year ago my dad basically just said, "screw this," sold the business for enough money to cover the debt that it was in, and like everyone else around here got a pretty average job in the Oil & Gas industry as a petroleum tester with little to no experience. His work is stress-free, his salary tripled, and at 55 years old and after just one year of being in Oil & Gas he went from, "I'm going to have to work until I die," to "I think I can retire in 7 or 8 years."

Posted by: Donkey at February 17, 2014 08:51 AM (Ggh94)

62 Oh hell, I'm a lifelong Texan and I complain about Houston plenty. Posted by: Jenny Ditto. But on the bright side, everyone has the equivalent of a free sauna.

Posted by: dogfish at February 17, 2014 08:51 AM (nsOJa)

63 You can go to hell, we're going to Texas.

Posted by: Occidental Petroleum at February 17, 2014 08:51 AM (6bMeY)

64 Pretty sure Houston (the city proper) voted for Obama. Houston is already plenty liberal. Dems win Houston with the same racial tactics they win other southern cities with a large black populace. People forget that Houston is 24% black.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 08:51 AM (ZPrif)

65 They only way Oil Production would explode in CA is if the USA was hit with an EMP destroying our power grid, and have us fight each other for food and gas while speaking in Australian accents and wearing assless-chaps and riding motorcycles....Then the ChiChom's would move in to CA to ....help the locals. They would Drill Baby Drill. AZ, NV, UT, NM would be the Wasteland....and here'ssss Lord Humongous!

Posted by: Paladin at February 17, 2014 08:51 AM (mCOPv)

66 >>Oh, they're worried, all right. Especially in the natural gas export and refined petroleum products markets. Petroleum is fungible, and we're set to become a world leader in petroleum exports. The big losers are the Russkies Which explains what is currently going on in both Ukraine and Syria.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2014 08:52 AM (g1DWB)

67 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 12:48 PM (ZPrif) You need to add that we can SAFELY drill for oil... and do it CLEANER here than they do when they extract oil overseas... Pitch it as a net WIN for the environment. You won't win over the real Greenies... but you will get rid of a lot of the Guilt from the Middle of the Road Voters.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 08:52 AM (84gbM)

68 DiT I hate to disagree with you, but I don't see the Californians ever wanting to bring back jobs in the dirty/filthy/disgusting gas/oil business. I'm afraid that state has jumped the shark and there is no return.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 08:52 AM (HVff2)

69 You really should watch a movie we financed about the dangers of the oil industry. It's got Matt Damon in it.

Posted by: United Arab Emirates at February 17, 2014 08:52 AM (Aif/5)

70 Why are lefties always wrong? --- Because they're not right. (Sorry)

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone but Likes Really Obvious Puns at February 17, 2014 08:52 AM (yOnMP)

71 Gotta go make the donuts...later, y'all.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 17, 2014 08:52 AM (LIQGY)

72 Is The History Channel still showing that Peak Oil program that they've been running for years. The Left is built on and perpetuated by lies. It seems to me that Jugears could most easily be shown the fraud that he is on the economy by contrasting our energy potential with his deliberate forestalling/stonewalling of same. That's without even mentioning how his buddies the Sauds benefit by us NOT realizing our potential for energy independence.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 17, 2014 08:53 AM (F5VLZ)

73 I remember being told in high school that the science was settled, and we were running out of oil. Because scientists can be stupid about some things. Actually- the people who report on what scientists say *are* stupid about a lot of things. Scientists (primarily geologists), engineers, economists, and a bunch of other folks got together and started talking about "proven reserves" which meant "this is how much oil it is worth pumping at the current price-per-barrel." Reporters & text book writers heard "proven reserves" and didn't bother to find out what that meant- so it became "here's how much oil we have! Ever!"

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 08:53 AM (PYAXX)

74 Houston is liberal with a lesbian mayor but not as liberal as Austin OTOH, the suburbs are blood red

Posted by: thunderb at February 17, 2014 08:53 AM (zOTsN)

75 Play the race card, play the oil card, and ~~win California.~~ lose California to fraud anyway.

No one checks that registered voters are citizens.

Posted by: Boxes of ballots in trunks of Fresno pollworkers' cars at February 17, 2014 08:53 AM (ZKzrr)

76 >>
65 They only way Oil Production would explode in CA is if the USA was hit with an EMP destroying our power grid, and have us fight each other for food and gas while speaking in Australian accents and wearing assless-chaps and riding motorcycles....Then the ChiChom's would move in to CA to ....help the locals. They would Drill Baby Drill. AZ, NV, UT, NM would be the Wasteland....and here'ssss Lord Humongous!

Posted by: Paladin at February 17, 2014 12:51 PM (mCOPv)

Cher, is that you?

(JK)

Posted by: Sphynx at February 17, 2014 08:53 AM (OZmbA)

Well, I've been out of high school for more years than I care to admit, and as far as I can see, the U.S has a boatload of untapped potential.

So if the science that was settled about fossil fuel stores in the U.S. (and around the world) was so wrong, how do these azzholes get to say the science is settled on global warming? These lying jerks are always wrong. It's so maddening!

It has been so long since I got out of high school. I attended back in the days before they voted on science. We had to prove a theory instead of reaching a consensus.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 17, 2014 08:53 AM (eGmvn)

78 If you are willing to allow the government to mess with the free market, getting energy prices down to $1-a-gallon equivalency would guarantee both growth in jobs AND in government revenue. The inverse correspondence between energy prices and GDP growth approaches 1.

Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 08:53 AM (QupBk)

79 Oh hell, I'm a lifelong Texan and I complain about Houston plenty.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone and Houston

Ditto! But I'd rather live here than Cali any day.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at February 17, 2014 08:53 AM (fk1A8)

80 Also, there was that $6 billion supposed to be spent on stem cell research. I haven't heard a peep on the results - surprise, surprise, surprise. Should go and clawback some of that money as well. Because the dirty little secret is that embryonic stem cell "research" is a way to justify that pillar of liberal Theology, abortion. See, if we pretend killing babies saves people with chronic, progressively deadly diseases like ALS and MS, then we can justify it to naÃ¯ve low information voters. The fact that umbilical cord stem cells and adult stem cells have actual, positive results while embryonic have none is a dirty little secret that no one must talk about.

Posted by: runningrn at February 17, 2014 08:54 AM (o6g4X)

81 Scientists (primarily geologists), engineers, economists, and a bunch of other folks got together and started talking about "proven reserves" which meant "this is how much oil it is worth pumping at the current price-per-barrel." With current technology. Fracking has made all those old predictions obsolete.

Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 08:55 AM (QupBk)

82 Texas is getting Mexifornia-cated from all directions. How long can they hold out against the blue political influx?

Posted by: irright at February 17, 2014 08:55 AM (8GKDa)

83 Gotta go make the donuts...later, y'all. This is a euphemism for something, isn't it?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 08:55 AM (PYAXX)

84 but our massive production will drive down prices on the world market
Posted by: thunderb
...........

hasn't yet. Nor do I think it will.

Look at those charts. And look at natural gas production in the US. Are prices coming down? Nope.. up about 20% year over year.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 17, 2014 08:55 AM (Z7PrM)

That's the sales pitch. Fuck the ocean front view of the Hollywood liberals. Do you want your children and grandchildren to be maids and gardeners? Vote Republican and they'll be rich oil workers.

Pour burning pitch on Hispanics and fuck the ocean. Got it!

*Fucks toaster*

Posted by: Teh GOP! at February 17, 2014 08:55 AM (BrQrN)

86 Nah, to hell with playing eco-fascism lite. Attack them at their strength, the environmentalists claim superior morality. Fuck that. They are eco-nazis who deliberately harm the majority of people. They are enemies of the average family. The are immoral scum. We'll never be able to out-Green the eco-nazis. Pointless to try. Better to mock and destroy the foundation of the supposed morality. That's what the Left did to Christianity. They'll never be able to out-Jesus the Right, so they mock and destroy and undermine. It's a good tactic.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 08:55 AM (ZPrif)

87 Ted Cruz is from Houston You're welcome

Posted by: thunderb at February 17, 2014 08:56 AM (zOTsN)

88 Reporters & text book writers heard "proven reserves" and didn't bother to find out what that meant- so it became "here's how much oil we have! Ever!" Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 12:53 PM (PYAXX) This is the funny thing about people who claim "peak oil." Yes, Oil is a "scarce resource" in an economic sense. That is to say it costs money to produce and only so much can be produced at various price points. But the cool thing about that is that as more demand increases prices it opens up productive avenues that weren't sensible before. But you all knew that. That was just a lead in to say: Frozen natural gas at the ocean floor. It's coming baby, and it'll be awesome.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 17, 2014 08:56 AM (GaqMa)

89 and here'ssss Lord Humongous!
And Moochelle as queen of pig-shit city.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 17, 2014 08:57 AM (vAnfs)

90 These are Conservative solutions. We can bring them to your state, too." Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 12:43 PM (PYAXX) They aren't called the Party of Stupid for nothing.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 08:57 AM (HVff2)

91 >>So if the science that was settled about fossil fuel stores in the U.S. (and around the world) was so wrong, how do these azzholes get to say the science is settled on global warming? These lying jerks are always wrong. It's so maddening! Many of them are wrong on purpose. Peak Oil and AGW both came from the same group of leftists control freaks. Its all about power.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2014 08:57 AM (g1DWB)

92 The bad thing about companies closing shop in CA and other blue states and moving to TX and other red states is that you get an influx of Californians who vote as stupidly as they did to make CA what it is today. #WhatHappenedToWashingtonState.

Posted by: runningrn at February 17, 2014 08:57 AM (o6g4X)

93 With current technology. Fracking has made all those old predictions obsolete. Posted by: toby928Â© at February 17, 2014 12:55 PM (QupBk) Correct. With then-current technology. How long can they hold out against the blue political influx? Posted by: irright at February 17, 2014 12:55 PM (8GKDa) Voter ID baby. Voter ID. Which reminds me- early voting starts tomorrow in TX. Don't forget to vote for your opponent-of-choice against John Cornyn and David Dewhurst.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 08:57 AM (PYAXX)

94 Why are lefties always wrong?

Consistency is a virtue.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at February 17, 2014 08:57 AM (Dwehj)

95
And while we're bitchin' bout oil and gas..... we seriously need to upgrade our refining capacity, and bring a little common sense to gasoline and diesel blends.

I read somewhere...(dont remember where) that in the United States, there are over 90 different flavors of fuel that have to be refined.... based on state and local "environmental" requirements.

If we:
1) Increase oil and gas production
2) Increase refining capacity
3) streamline the fuel blend standards..... I bet we could get gas at the pump prices in the $1.50 range.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 17, 2014 08:57 AM (nELVU)

96 Nope.. up about 20% year over year. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry the technology that is producing this boom is expensive but its getting better, and cheaper, all the time

Posted by: thunderb at February 17, 2014 08:57 AM (zOTsN)

97 You really should watch a movie we financed about the dangers of the oil industry. It's got Matt Damon in it. Posted by: United Arab Emirates at February 17, 2014 12:52 PM

LOL

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2014 08:58 AM (JBggj)

98 What will not be surprising will be the transferring California employees complaining about Texas . Houston specifically .

Fuck 'em. They can stay in Kali.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2014 08:58 AM (d0Dmj)

99 Perhaps a little O/T, but tangentially related. I just received the quarterly Graduate School magazine from one of my alma maters. It's 42 pages, thick paper, high gloss and full color, in other words they put some effort and money into getting alumnus to donate. The magazine features the careers of these graduates, in this order: an environmentalist, a trumpet player, an artist, a person with a master of public administration who works for the federal gov't in the CDC, another environmentalist and two students who work in the university medical robotics lab.

Yeah, not going to get me to write a check with that sales pitch.

Posted by: Mayday at February 17, 2014 08:58 AM (eHc+1)

100 Houston is only good for one thing - making money. Everything else about Houston sucks, but damn, they sure do make a lot of money there. And so does just about everyone who moves there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 17, 2014 08:58 AM (8Fa5Z)

101 >>Gotta go make the donuts... My wife and I use that line all the time. Brilliant advertising; tagline still in use after all of these years.

Posted by: dogfish at February 17, 2014 08:59 AM (nsOJa)

102 Go Panthers!

Posted by: tangonine at February 17, 2014 08:59 AM (x3YFz)

103 That was just a lead in to say: Frozen natural gas at the ocean floor. It's coming baby, and it'll be awesome. Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 17, 2014 12:56 PM (GaqMa) SOON.

Posted by: Leviathan at February 17, 2014 08:59 AM (VtjlW)

104 "Everything else about Houston sucks, but damn, they sure do make a lot of money there. And so does just about everyone who moves there." True dat!

Posted by: Thieving Katrina Thugs at February 17, 2014 09:00 AM (o6g4X)

105 22 California does lead the nation in the production of sanctimonious assholes. Posted by: Dr Spank at February 17, 2014 12:40 PM ------------------------------------ Challenge accepted!

Posted by: New York at February 17, 2014 09:00 AM (8GKDa)

106 See, if we pretend killing babies saves people with chronic, progressively deadly diseases like ALS and MS, then we can justify it to naÃ¯ve low information voters.

Meanwhile, the people with ALS and MS are gonna get Liverpooled, and the LIV are never going to make a connection between the two things.

Posted by: HR at February 17, 2014 09:00 AM (ZKzrr)

107 Houston is only good for one thing - making money. Everything else about Houston sucks, but damn, they sure do make a lot of money there. And so does just about everyone who moves there. Posted by: Tom Servo eh hmmmmm

Posted by: Ted Cruz at February 17, 2014 09:00 AM (zOTsN)

108 I remember the Peak Oil Documentary had this old Brit geologist that looked like he was well past Peak Hygiene. Â…..rumpled clothes, tousled hair and bad teeth. I think some of the interview was in a pub. Â…..pretty compelling rubbish

Posted by: ontherocks at February 17, 2014 09:01 AM (F5VLZ)

109 104 "Everything else about Houston sucks, but damn, they sure do make a lot of money there. And so does just about everyone who moves there."

True dat!

Posted by: Thieving Katrina Thugs at February 17, 2014 01:00 PM (o6g4X)

just don't leave your car unlocked in Houston.

Posted by: tangonine at February 17, 2014 09:01 AM (x3YFz)

110

You really should watch a movie we financed about the dangers of the oil industry. It's got Matt Damon in it.

Posted by: United Arab Emirates

And don't forget to watch our most recent Current TV series about the evils of fracking, courtesy of Al-Jazeera!

Posted by: Qatar at February 17, 2014 09:01 AM (BrQrN)

111 Does that chart show a hockey stick or are you just Oshie to see me?

Posted by: Shale McFrack at February 17, 2014 09:01 AM (GSIDW)

112
certain university here sponsored a FREAKING AMENDMENT to our state constitution that surprisingly makes it very hard to claw back that shitty ass spent money.

...

Total ESC cures: 0.
Cord Blood cures alone: many.

Posted by: tsrblke,

If we had a government that was half as antagonistic towards uni's as it is towards private corporations, that money would be coming back. The moral hazard of throwing money away like that is just insane, to say nothing of offering uses degrees to kids for $10k's.

Also, THX for confirming what I assumed to be true in regards to the stem cell sucess rate.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 17, 2014 09:01 AM (Yp6Vn)

113 Houston has more money, more business and less pretention than Dallas

Posted by: Ted Cruz at February 17, 2014 09:01 AM (zOTsN)

114 I read that Mark Steyn's defense against Michael Mann is not going as well as expected including the fact National Review doesn't have his back : http://tinyurl.com/m5mxfxc

Steyn's website where you can help with his defense : http://tinyurl.com/m5mxfxc

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 17, 2014 09:01 AM (P1WNR)

115 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 12:52 PM (HVff2) California is due for reversion... but needs a viable choice... The Calif GOP does not give one... Obama talks about how Wealth is not distributed correctly? Look at California... there really are two distinct States.... on in Hollyweird and the Silicone Valley, that is doing very well... And the rest of the State... that has gone to shit.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 09:02 AM (84gbM)

116 Sad. Imagine the 'job-lock' this will create.

Posted by: RWC at February 17, 2014 09:02 AM (NSX2I)

117 Frozen natural gas at the ocean floor. It's coming baby, and it'll be awesome. Yeah. Right up until you disturb Cthulhu and Ghisguth.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 09:02 AM (PYAXX)

118 As all the Californians move to Texas they bring with them their votes and ideas. Soon enough they'll ruin Texas too.

Posted by: major major major major at February 17, 2014 09:02 AM (X9vO1)

119 113 Houston has more money, more business and less pretention than Dallas

Posted by: Ted Cruz at February 17, 2014 01:01 PM (zOTsN)

And the demographic that gave us Sheila Jackson Lee.

/drops mic

Posted by: tangonine at February 17, 2014 09:02 AM (x3YFz)

120 On the McDoomy side: If the EPA doesn't back off on the coal industry, next winter will see people freezing in their homes.

Posted by: Votermom at February 17, 2014 09:03 AM (GSIDW)

121 But...but...fracking causes earthquakes! I know because someone here at work said it last week! That is why Texas is experiencing MOAR EARTHQUAKES THAN EVAR BEFORE, YOU GUYS. Energy independence is deadly!!!!!!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 17, 2014 09:03 AM (qBtUE)

122 Yeah, not going to get me to write a check with that sales pitch.
No Puppetry majors working half-weeks in two different Starbucks?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 17, 2014 09:03 AM (vAnfs)

123 Yeah. Right up until you disturb Cthulhu and Ghisguth. Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 01:02 PM (PYAXX) *stamps wee tiny feet* First the SMODlet fly by today and now this. STOP TAUNTING HAPPY FUN ALEX

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD at February 17, 2014 09:03 AM (VtjlW)

124 Right up until you disturb Cthulhu and Ghisguth.

SMOD's been a bust...DRILL FASTER!

Posted by: HR at February 17, 2014 09:04 AM (ZKzrr)

125 John Bolton is going to be on FNC at 1:10 to talk about Kerry's comment that climate change is the worse WMD! These nuts have no business being in any position of power. There are over 100 comment & I think it is safe to go off topic.

Posted by: Carol at February 17, 2014 09:04 AM (z4WKX)

126 I think it is safe to go off topic. There's a topic?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 09:05 AM (PYAXX)

127 Because the dirty little secret is that embryonic stem cell "research" is a way to justify that pillar of liberal Theology, abortion. See, if we pretend killing babies saves people with chronic, progressively deadly diseases like ALS and MS, then we can justify it to naÃ¯ve low information voters. The fact that umbilical cord stem cells and adult stem cells have actual, positive results while embryonic have none is a dirty little secret that no one must talk about. Posted by: runningrn at February 17, 2014 12:54 PM

Preach it, my sister!

Posted by: huerfano at February 17, 2014 09:06 AM (bAGA/)

128 Aaaaand this is why they're desperate to turn Texas red.
Texas definitively proves which policies work and that must be stopped.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2014 09:06 AM (POpqt)

129 But...but...fracking causes earthquakes! I know because someone here at work said it last week! That is why Texas is experiencing MOAR EARTHQUAKES THAN EVAR BEFORE, YOU GUYS.

There was a show on cable last night talking about quakes in fly over country. They conveniently skipped the New Madrid Quake.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2014 09:06 AM (d0Dmj)

130 Running out of fossil fuels? Next they'll be telling us the drought in CA is caused by AGW. Oh nerve mind.

Posted by: Buffalobob at February 17, 2014 09:06 AM (RZBmV)

131 Did you know that I served in Vietnam?

Posted by: John Kerry at February 17, 2014 09:06 AM (Aif/5)

132 STOP TAUNTING HAPPY FUN ALEX Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us, oh mighty SMOD
===
Taunting? From Miss Happy Fun?

Ouch! I just dropped the irony on my foot!

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2014 09:07 AM (JBggj)

133 Accidental Depopulation

Posted by: Blue State Model PR at February 17, 2014 09:07 AM (R6JT1)

134 >>These nuts have no business being in any position of power. That IS their Business. Â…..understanding what makes actual businesses tic however is another story altogether

Posted by: ontherocks at February 17, 2014 09:07 AM (F5VLZ)

135 120 On the McDoomy side: If the EPA doesn't back off on the coal industry, next winter will see people freezing in their homes. ------------- That's a small price to pay if polar bears can have properly-sized ice cubes to relax on.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 17, 2014 09:07 AM (A7zvX)

136 Yeah, not going to get me to write a check with that sales pitch.

Posted by: Mayday at February 17, 2014 12:58 PM (eHc+1)

--------------------------------------------

If they've posted a website on that booklet, write them and tell them. I've written my school that as long as they retain the Anita Hill chair in their law school, they won't see a dime from me.

Posted by: Soona at February 17, 2014 09:08 AM (PLhsv)

137 Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 17, 2014 01:01 PM (Yp6Vn) This is what happens when you effectively let a university with a top tier law school write proposed legislation. They wrote in a clause that ESC money could not "be restricted" something something something. Then they argued that restricting it based on science violated that constitutional amendment. SERIOUSLY. IIRC, what happened was the state eventually said "fine, we're done providing state level grants for this shit." Which was fine with me anyway, we've got better things to spend money on. (I especially enjoyed that the amendment "banned cloning" per the SOS summary on the ballot. I pointed out at the only Young Republican's meeting I've even been to that this was not true in the slightest as it didn't ban SCNT sometimes called "therapeutic cloning." but cloning nonetheless.)

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (No Really!) at February 17, 2014 09:08 AM (GaqMa)

138 Voter mom, Sorry I am using iPad & it puts spaces in when I don't want them. I heard one blurb on radio news that gas & oil are going to go up 40 cents per gallon. Has anyone else heard that? I'm pissed off at heating oil prices, never mind if they go up 40 cents per gallon.

Posted by: Carol at February 17, 2014 09:09 AM (z4WKX)

139 Yeah, not going to get me to write a check with that sales pitch.
No Puppetry majors working half-weeks in two different Starbucks?
--
No dout there are...they just ran out of space in the magazine.

Posted by: Mayday at February 17, 2014 09:09 AM (eHc+1)

140

"Energy independence" is not possible outside a garrison/autarky state that implies deprivation and Sparta-like control of the citizenry (complete energy price control/export control to achieve physical, commodity "independence") . Furthermore, it nets you *precisely nothing* in terms of geopolitics - unless you are a Belgium-sized state with similar international interests and obligations. Extremely reductionist example: we don't fret over Iran because of its oil industry.

Objective - as in all things economic - is "abundance". Freedom leads to abundance, abundance implies redundant sources of supply. "Independence" simply is not meaningful, and is one of the dumbest (well used to be, the last 10 years of national cretinization makes rankings rather moot) memes of the last 40 years, echoed by all in a collective surrender to economic/strategic illiteracy. Events might conspire to produce the illusory version of "independence" (Brazil has more or less experienced this recently). Doesn't change a damn thing. What matters is economic freedom, which leads to abundance, which renders simplistic concepts of "independence/dependence" irrelevant.

Posted by: non-purist at February 17, 2014 09:09 AM (afQnV)

141 OT hah: When an Ethiopian Airlines Enterprise aircraft carrying 202 passengers entered Swiss airspace today after being hijacked by the co-pilot en route to Rome, SwitzerlandÂ’s Air Force remained on the ground. ThatÂ’s because the incident occurred outside normal office hours. Instead, French and Italian fighter jets escorted the Boeing 767 to a safe landing in Geneva. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-17/invading-switzerland-try-before-8-or-after-5.html

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 17, 2014 09:10 AM (SAKXY)

142 The Megaton Load of SoS Kerry's Dumb is more dangerous than WMD If Wind bags were viable sources of energy, the man could power at least 2 continents.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 17, 2014 09:10 AM (F5VLZ)

143 Liberals get liberaler, Texas gets richer.

Posted by: --- at February 17, 2014 09:10 AM (MMC8r)

144 Dallas does lead Texas in the production of sanctimonious assholes.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 17, 2014 09:10 AM (P1WNR)

145 Voter mom,
Sorry I am using iPad & it puts spaces in when I don't want them. I heard one blurb on radio news that gas & oil are going to go up 40 cents per gallon.

Has anyone else heard that? I'm pissed off at heating oil prices, never mind if they go up 40 cents per gallon.

Gas in Dallas went up .15 cents in 9 hours on Thursday last week. I paid $3.15 on the way to work. It was $3.30 on the way home.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2014 09:11 AM (d0Dmj)

146 >>>SwitzerlandÂ’s Air Force remained on the ground. ThatÂ’s because the incident occurred outside normal office hours. ------------- If you invade outside of normal office fours, please ring bell.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 17, 2014 09:11 AM (A7zvX)

147 When an Ethiopian Airlines Enterprise aircraft carrying 202 passengers entered Swiss airspace today after being hijacked by the co-pilot en route to Rome, SwitzerlandÂ’s Air Force remained on the ground. ThatÂ’s because the incident occurred outside normal office hours. Instead, French and Italian fighter jets escorted the Boeing 767 to a safe landing in Geneva.

____

Time and a half is a bitch.

Posted by: tangonine at February 17, 2014 09:12 AM (x3YFz)

148 And the demographic that gave us Sheila Jackson Lee.

/drops mic

Posted by: tangonine at February 17, 2014 01:02 PM (x3YFz)

----------------------------------------------------

Couldn't have said it better myself. Houston is a leftist stronghold.

Posted by: Soona at February 17, 2014 09:12 AM (PLhsv)

149 Freedom leads to abundance, abundance implies redundant sources of supply. energy abundance leads to economic independence and that supports freedom seems to me you have it backwards

Posted by: thunderb at February 17, 2014 09:12 AM (zOTsN)

150 Posted by: Dr Spank at February 17, 2014 01:10 PM (P1WNR) Considering the geographic location of t.u. is ALSO the capitol of the State, I have a hard time believing that.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 09:12 AM (PYAXX)

151
GTT? I thought they said GFY.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 17, 2014 09:12 AM (n0DEs)

152 Welp.

I guess the Swiss invasion plan is nearly finalized.

Posted by: tangonine at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (x3YFz)

153 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 17, 2014 01:12 PM (n0DEs) They did. It just requires a little translation.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (PYAXX)

154 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 17, 2014 01:12 PM (n0DEs) They did. It just requires a little translation.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (PYAXX)

155

I can't find a parking space now at the Mall. This is only going to make it worse. What about my feelings !!!

Posted by: polynikes at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (m2CN7)

156 Houston still a sanctuary city?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (jNNPU)

157 Rub salt in the wound by renaming that company Oriental Petroleum.

Posted by: Sensitive skin? Put oil on it at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (R6JT1)

158 Well that was odd...

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (PYAXX)

159 I've seen previews on Showtime about a new movie that appears to be more global warming hysteria. What it lacks in facts and evidence it makes up for delusional propaganda.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (E+uky)

160 >John Bolton is going to be on FNC at 1:10 to talk about Kerry's comment that climate change is the worse WMD! >These nuts have no business being in any position of power. >There are over 100 comment & I think it is safe to go off topic. Its really not off topic. Peak Oil, AGW, population control, they have all been the agenda of the radical left for literally decades. And it was all championed by an obscure but hugely influential Canadian (yes, blame Canada) named Maurice Strong. He was the slime who was put in charge of all this climate change/move to renewable bullshit back in the early '70s and he has been an ally of our leftists like Gore and Obama ever since. And its all about breaking down the power of large, wealthy countries and imposing more world government. If you don't know who Maurice Strong is you should read up on him. From Kerry's speech yesterday. >>>Some time ago I travelled to another vibrant city Â– a city also rich with its own rich history Â– Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. And I was there, sitting in a big room, surrounded by representatives from about 170 countries. We listened as expert after expert after expert described the growing threat of climate change and what it would mean for the world if we failed to act. >>The Secretary General of the conference was Â– he was an early leader on climate change, a man by the name of Maurice Strong, and he told us Â– I quote him: Â“Every bit of evidence IÂ’ve seen persuades me that we are on a course leading to tragedy.Â”

Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (g1DWB)

161 Couldn't have said it better myself. Houston is a leftist stronghold. Posted by: Soona Ted Cruz is out of Houston. Think again

Posted by: thunderb at February 17, 2014 09:13 AM (zOTsN)

162

Theres places in Houston that look like flat Beverly Hills.

Posted by: eleven at February 17, 2014 09:14 AM (fsLdt)

163 >>If the EPA doesn't back off on the coal industry, next winter will see people freezing in their homes.

Don't even THINK about using your wood burning stove!

We need to do something to stop all of this extreme weather, and culling the herd--er, I mean, ending our addition to fossil fuels is our only hope.

Posted by: EPA at February 17, 2014 09:14 AM (POpqt)

164 Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 17, 2014 01:13 PM (jNNPU) Probably. At least until the State gets serious about ending that sh*t.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Ah, F It. at February 17, 2014 09:14 AM (PYAXX)

165 Has anyone else heard that? I'm pissed off at heating oil prices, never mind if they go up 40 cents per gallon. Posted by: Carol at February 17, 2014 01:09 PM (z4WKX) CongressÂ‘ mammoth farm bill restores the imposition of an extra fee on home heating oil, hitting consumers in cold-weather states just as utility costs are spiking. The fee Â— two-tenths of a cent on every gallon sold Â— was tacked on to the end of the 959-page bill, which is winding its way through Capitol Hill. The fee would last for nearly 20 years and would siphon the money to develop equipment that is cheaper, more efficient and safer, and to encourage consumers to update their equipment.

Posted by: RWC at February 17, 2014 09:14 AM (NSX2I)

166 149 Freedom leads to abundance, abundance implies effort.

Fixed.

Posted by: tangonine at February 17, 2014 09:14 AM (x3YFz)

167

But if they want to complain fuckem.

Go back to Lolifornia jackass.

Posted by: eleven at February 17, 2014 09:14 AM (fsLdt)

168 Couldn't have said it better myself. Houston is a leftist stronghold.

Posted by: Soona

Ted Cruz is out of Houston. Think again
====
Thanks, "Snake" Plisken!

Posted by: mrp at February 17, 2014 09:15 AM (JBggj)

169 All I care is Carl's Jr is moving to Houston.

Posted by: eleven at February 17, 2014 09:16 AM (fsLdt)

170 167 But if they want to complain fuckem. Go back to Lolifornia jackass. Posted by: eleven at February 17, 2014 01:14 PM (fsLdt) Howbout they just don't bother coming here in the first place. We have lots of big scary guns.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 17, 2014 09:16 AM (jNNPU)

171 in any event, there is no part of Texas where the business climate is not better than any part of California

Posted by: thunderb at February 17, 2014 09:16 AM (zOTsN)

172 EPA is forcing 20% of coal plant capacity to shut down by 2016. 60 GW of capacity is being taken offline due to new regs in 2015, with one year grace period for hardship cases. US Coal industry has 310 GW, so that's 20% of total capacity being retired in just a couple years.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 09:17 AM (ZPrif)

173 Hi RWC, I found an email from you on Comcast website, I rescued it & responded. It was 40 cents per gallon for changing mixes to summer, etc.

Posted by: Carol at February 17, 2014 09:17 AM (z4WKX)

174 All I care is Carl's Jr is moving to Houston.

But you have Buc-ee's!
I've seen the billboards in Dallas!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2014 09:17 AM (d0Dmj)

175 I'm more a Coloradan than a Texan, but I've spent the last 27 years of my life in both states.

Denver blows, Boulder is the smelly crotch of CO, and Houston is the armpit of TX.

Ya'll that live in those places may disagree, but I really ain't going to change my opinion.

Posted by: tangonine at February 17, 2014 09:17 AM (x3YFz)

176 Does anyone know where I can get me some of that Complain Fuckem mentioned several times above? Â…Â…and how much it costs? Thank You in advanceÂ…Â….

Posted by: ontherocks at February 17, 2014 09:18 AM (F5VLZ)

177 Those same coal plants being shut down are the ones that had to work overtime this winter to meet demand due to the harsher than normal winter.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 17, 2014 09:18 AM (ZPrif)

178 Nood!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2014 09:18 AM (d0Dmj)

179

For those hoping for a sudden outbreak of rational intelligence in CA - surely you jest?

Not one chance in a billion of people putting 1 + 1 together here, on energy or anything else. If anything, it's getting worse, by the year.

Examples abound. "High speed rail" - utterly ridiculous horribly expensibe pointless idea - no serious opposition. Shutting down power plants (San Onofre latest example) - insane, economically ruinous, just another ho-hum day out here, absolutely not a peep of protest or horror from a soul. San Joaquin agriculture catastrophe based on judicial tyranny/environmental illiteracy/authoritarian impulse/religious fanaticism - not a peep. There were districts with 40 PER CENT unemployment that re-elected all their incumbent state/federal officials in the last few cycles.

The non-elite "elites" thrive from tech and life science booms that are left alone to thrive, unlike almost every other real economic sector. People in those communities are the very heart and soul of the wider illiteracy. There are young (nominally "smart") young people in Silicon Valley who are wealthy, yet have not the slightest clue about economics. They produce little tech baubles and basically idiotic trinkets like social media platforms and become zillionaires yet are complete ignoramuses - arrogant authoritarian fanatical ignoramuses - outside their narrow and often pointless-yet-profitable niches. And they donate oceans of money to the worst political causes.

The idiocy in CA, and elsewhere of a similar nature, is far more robust than many here seem to appreciate. There is no "hope" - other than the occasional stumble or budget crisis along the way. Not a chance of the political idiocy of the populace being fixed, or meaningfully altered. Not a chance.

Posted by: non-purist at February 17, 2014 09:18 AM (afQnV)

180 I'm pretty sure it's a violation of the Geneva convention to attack during nonbusiness hours.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 17, 2014 09:19 AM (E+uky)

181 I can't find a parking space now at the Mall. This is only going to make it worse. What about my feelings !!!

Posted by: polynikes at February 17, 2014 01:13 PM (m2CN7)

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Looks like a good reason to call 911.

Posted by: Soona at February 17, 2014 09:19 AM (PLhsv)

182 They are probably going to locate somewhere in the Energy Corridor off of Eldridge Blvd. That's going to mean that I'm also going to have a longer wait at the Top Golf driving range and bar. I don't know if the reward is worth my inconvience.

Posted by: polynikes at February 17, 2014 09:20 AM (m2CN7)

183 I have heard the oil prices are going up. EPA driving lower coal & oil production. Obama subsidizes electric cars which plug into power grid increasing demand. Sun going into Maunder minimum leading to increasingly cold winters. Increase demand. Decrease supply. Look shocked, shocked at results. Blame it on Tea Party.

Posted by: Votermom at February 17, 2014 09:21 AM (GSIDW)

184 The Secretary General of the conference was Â– he was an early leader on climate change, a man by the name of Maurice Strong Ah, Mo Strong. A corrupt, unaccountable, unelected, socialist fuckweasel who pocketed at least a million (that we know about) out of the the UN's Oil for Food disaster, then scampered off to China. And there's Kerry giving him a tongue bath.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 17, 2014 09:22 AM (SAKXY)

185 If they've posted a website on that booklet, write them and tell them. I've written my school that as long as they retain the Anita Hill chair in their law school, they won't see a dime from me.
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Soona, not a bad idea but I kind of like it when they (and other people/institutions) are up front about their moonbattery. I appreciate the honesty at least, and then I avoid spending one red cent with them. If and when they wise up, they'll target different communications to different people and then you're apt to be deceived.

Posted by: Mayday at February 17, 2014 09:22 AM (eHc+1)

186 Posted by: Carol at February 17, 2014 01:17 PM (z4WKX) Got it. Thanks.

Posted by: RWC at February 17, 2014 09:23 AM (hPZii)

187 Houston still a sanctuary city? Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 17, 2014 01:13 PM (jNNPU) 10-4

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 17, 2014 09:24 AM (R8hU8)

188

OK, I give up. "Energy independence" is a false god, if you think in economically rational terms. Energy abundance means you have 1) lots of energy, perhaps even all you need, from local production 2) plenty of cash to buy energy from elsewhere if that makes more sense.

All I was trying to point out was the illiteracy of the concept of "energy independence" from a physical, commodity point of view. Not only is it economically stupid, it yields precisely zero geopolitical "benefit". We would not be ignoring events in the MidEast if we imported zero ounces of oil. 9/11 cost less than an M1 Abrams tank to pull off. Our economy is linked to the world economy, which means trade including trade in energy, .....and on and on.

And I don't have anything backwards. I was mentioning "freedom" because that translates as rational development of energy sources. Which leads to abundance, which leads to more prosperity, and the ability to produce or buy your energy (see above).

Posted by: non-purist at February 17, 2014 09:28 AM (afQnV)

189 92 The bad thing about companies closing shop in CA and other blue states and moving to TX and other red states is that you get an influx of Californians who vote as stupidly as they did to make CA what it is today. #WhatHappenedToWashingtonState. This. Look what has happened to Austin, Houston and now Dallas. The rural/burbs are still red, but the cities are lost. Austin is just another name for Berkeley

Posted by: DrC at February 17, 2014 09:29 AM (Lo5Rt)

190

Noo Droo.

I wonder if it's about the GOP?

Posted by: eleven at February 17, 2014 09:29 AM (fsLdt)

191 144 I think that honor goes to Austin- unless you're talking quantity vs. quality?

Posted by: Sal at February 17, 2014 09:30 AM (lrTwr)

192 Desalinization isn't an option in my beloved Clownifornia. We have a desal plant less than a mile from my place that was built for drought defense. In the 15 yrs or so of its existence, they've never run it, except for maintenance. Makes people's water bills too expensive, it's easier and cheaper to divert water from ag use.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 17, 2014 09:31 AM (TIIx5)

193

Austin is just another name for Berkeley

Wannabe Berkely.

Posted by: eleven at February 17, 2014 09:32 AM (fsLdt)

194 120 On the McDoomy side: If the EPA doesn't back off on the coal industry, next winter will see people freezing in their homes. This is just the Feds teeing up another wealth transfer.

Posted by: DrC at February 17, 2014 09:33 AM (GwLJQ)

195 Is there a gas space heater?

Posted by: eleven at February 17, 2014 09:35 AM (fsLdt)

196 @ 42 - Houston is awful, which is why I commute here from 50 miles away every day. That any to make the commies cry at my carbon footprint.

Posted by: SouthCounty sitting in Houston at February 17, 2014 09:40 AM (oPzmh)

197
"Houston is only good for one thing - making money."

We now interrupt this program for a cultural note:

I've never been to Houston, but when I think of that city, what comes to mind is the Houston Grand Opera, one of the country's leading opera companies. They premier more new works, and develop new talent than almost any other company in the country (among many others, Renee Fleming sang her first major role in the US in Houston). They do some wonderful productions there.

We now resume our regularly scheduled programming ...

Posted by: Brown Line at February 17, 2014 09:42 AM (VrNoa)

198 195 Is there a gas space heater? -- Bing says yes - bunches of them.

Posted by: Votermom at February 17, 2014 09:50 AM (GSIDW)

199 I'm going to make a crazy prediction here. The environmentalists will lose an argument against billions of dollars in new state revenues. They'll put up a fight, it'll be ugly. But when the dust settles the lure of the money will be too much. And in five to ten years California will experience a surge in energy production that will bring jobs back. Wrong. The elites don't care how poor California is overall just as long as they have their dot com money and/or can force children to experiment with transvestitism.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 17, 2014 09:50 AM (AymDN)

200

Does Al Gore know about this move?

Posted by: burt at February 17, 2014 10:03 AM (1+kJ5)

201 I don't see California ever opening up their natural resources, even if the state is in a total collapse. Just too many idiot voters. Even California Republicans are liberal on environmental issues.

California is probably the most blessed geographic place on the planet, I honestly can't think of any other spot with so much going for it, from fertile ground for farming, to perfect weather, to gold, to oil and natural gas, etc. Yet the Democrat Party has run it into the ground, and no matter how bad it gets, they will keep electing Democrats.

Posted by: McAdams at February 17, 2014 10:20 AM (1lrsv)

202

Al Gore, The Other Oil Candidate, Year 2000, has connections with Occidental Petroleum since the days when his dad did Lawyer work for them, and was always advocating for Libya because Occidental Petroleum operated in Libya. The family still has Occidental holdings from which ManBearPig profits.

Wouldn't be surprised if Al Gore had his hand in this. The love of money being the root of all DemocRat Evil.

Posted by: Admeral Akbar Says' It's A Trap'! at February 17, 2014 10:20 AM (nbGZj)

203 OMG, I was getting all serious like and reading charts and stuff that grownups do...and then...
The red line is what's happening in my pants

LMFAO!

Posted by: PJ at February 17, 2014 10:24 AM (ZWaLo)

204 @175 Thank you for correlating our databases.

Posted by: NSA at February 17, 2014 10:39 AM (HEo6y)

205 Californians will vote to develop oil resources, if the oil is going to China.
Ditto with large coal reserves in the east. Run the American companies out of business, sell holdings and equipment at bankruptcy auction to Chinese firms.

It's only "fair."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 17, 2014 10:40 AM (xq1UY)

206 you have more faith in the voters here in Failifornia than i do...

i can see these idiots voting to ban fracking altogether... not to mention suing in court, and winning, to stop drilling, even if it's legal.

when we hit rock bottom, it's gonna hurt, because we keep accelerating teh st00pid.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 17, 2014 10:40 AM (q+fqH)

207 I dunno. I've lived in California for more than 50 years now, and I've learned that it is impossible to overestimate the abysmal clusterfuck stupidity of the average California envirowacko living within 30 miles of the California coastline. Absent those assholes, the state has some pretty nice people. So I dunno whether permits will ever be issued to exploit the Monterey Shale.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at February 17, 2014 11:04 AM (wdHk6)

208 Oxy has been expanding in the Permian since the early 90's They have been the number one producer out here.

Posted by: TexasJew at February 17, 2014 11:08 AM (U+u4A)

209 I live near Carlsbad, CA. It has taken 10+ years of review and permitting and seemingly endless legal battles to finally get construction underway for the new desal plant (article from back in '06 enclosed); it will only take ~2 years to actually build it. http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060614/news_7m14nosalt.html

Posted by: DavidMB at February 17, 2014 11:12 AM (K9C4t)

210 Oxy has been expanding in the Permian since the early 90's They have been the number one producer out here. I've been operating and drilling wells in North Dakota since 2008 It is beyond insane up there

Posted by: TexasJew at February 17, 2014 11:14 AM (U+u4A)

211 @Dave in Texas: Energy production will win in California? You underestimate the nature of coastal, liberal elites -- who are completely, totally, bar-none in control of every meaningful government office and regulatory body.

Posted by: Kirk at February 17, 2014 11:34 AM (GBnWt)

212 I think is is wonderful that the Liberals are stopping us from drilling for all of our gas and oil now. That means that in the future when all the oil and gas in the rest of the world is used up the US will be the undisputed top dog. Certain to cause the US to have more money that anyone else, making the US the planetary 1%. (as we are now of course) This is certain to cause a lot of angst and anger in the Libs of the future.

Posted by: Dave The Engineer at February 17, 2014 11:49 AM (hE4zT)

213 Dave, I think California is gonna do The Full Detroit.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at February 17, 2014 01:07 PM (klGLB)

214 Ummm, looking at the charts...is that what they mean by peak oil?

Posted by: Flies leave fresh dogshit to follow them... at February 17, 2014 01:48 PM (unF5M)

215 And in five to ten years California will experience a surge in energy production that will bring jobs back. Not with Democrats in charge.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 17, 2014 02:52 PM (jVaLp)

216 I can do this one too but I need to stretch first

Ha ha ha haaa

Posted by: lauraw at February 17, 2014 03:09 PM (yGblt)

217 I was on location for an early attempt to produce the Monterey Shale near McKittrick, CA. Unocal. Halliburton neglected to test the local water, which was high in borate. The frac fluid crosslinked in the tanks and the job was cancelled. You always want to test your frac fluid, cross linker, and breaker before any job. I've been drunk in California.

Posted by: Ed Mahmoud at February 17, 2014 03:51 PM (xLgUX)

218 I had to laugh at the comments on the LAT article. All the lefties point out that Apple and Google are the #1 and #2 businesses in California. Apparently they aren't aware of the fact that both Apple and Google are looking to move significant parts of their businesses out of California. Apple is quietly snapping up a lot of land around Austin and Google is looking elsewhere, too.

Posted by: Nahanni at February 17, 2014 03:52 PM (S4wMM)

219 "...Technology unlocks potential and prosperity..." And government locks both of them back up again. Energy production in socialist California will grow more slowly than freer Texas or a North Dakota for the foreseeable future. Look at Mexico for another case study in the way government retards oil development.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at February 17, 2014 09:45 PM (ZG3Fa)

220 Texas and North Dakota just need L-O-N-G straws.

Posted by: Daniel Plainview at February 18, 2014 05:28 AM (nbGZj)

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