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January 27, 2014

Overnight Open Thread (1-27-2014)
— Maetenloch

Chuck Schumer Wants Tracking Devices on Autistic Children

Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has proposed a far-reaching new law that would force taxpayers to cover the costs of placing tracking devices on autistic children after 14-year-old autistic child Avonte Oquendo was found dead last week. The tracking devices would not be implanted, but would instead be attached to watches, ankle bracelets, belts, or shoelaces. "The program would be completely voluntary for parents and run by local law enforcement," Schumer's office announced.

...Studies show that approximately half of autistic children wander away from supervised areas. The legislation would grant $10 million for the program.

Well I know some families with autistic children who have to be constantly vigilant or else their kid will take advantage of an unlocked front door and wander far off into the neighborhood. And it's my understanding that the Secret Service uses a similar tracker to find VP Joe Biden whenever he wanders off.

But even if it's a good idea at the family level for autistic children to wear these trackers Schumer completely fails to explain:

Why is this the business of the federal government?
Why do we need a law covering this?
Why should the taxpayers cover the costs of these devices?

Somewhere along the line a lot of the American people have bought into the assumption that just because something is good in a nice-to-have way, it must automatically involve the federal government paying for it. Now Schumers are always going to be Schumering because it's their nature but sadly this bill is likely to pass with bipartisan support. Because the children.

Also in News You Can't Use: Can Whales Be Autistic? And will they need to be tracked as well?

NYT: Fear the Power of the Koch War-Zeppelin

Only a few weeks into this midterm election year, the right-wing political zeppelin is fully inflated with secret cash and is firing malicious falsehoods at supporters of health care reform.

A right-wing war zeppelin? That's a good idea. I like that. We'll start the ball rolling and get funding approved at the next VRWC meeting Koch-willing.

Why Wendy Davis' Lies Matter According to the Washington Post

Well they might harm her future state and national political prospects and we can't have that.

What Davis then needs most of all is not to win - although that would be nice for her and her supporters - but rather to be seen as having run a creditable campaign that continues to elevate her star status. Allegations like these about her rÃ©sumÃ©, if they persist and/or lead to other problems with the campaign, are perilous to that perception.

Truthfulness is simply not a value of the left. So telling lies or 'incorrect promises' or 'loose speech' or whatever the euphemism du jour is is only wrong if you do it badly. Or aren't a member of the left.

Meanwhile the rest of the media is coming to Davis' defense but the main problem is that her campaign is built around her identity as a single mother who succeeded except it turns out she wasn't single nor much of a mother.

CA Supreme Court: Illegal Alien Should Get License to Practice Law

Well of course. It's not like attorneys are officers of the court or expected to follow the law or anything. Silly rabbit.

What Barbara Walters Will Be Remembered For When She Retires This Year

1. Being a woman reporter

2. Baba Wawa

3. "If you were a tree, what kind would you be?"

4. Eating canapes and tea with the Black Panthers in Radical Chic

5. Holding Castro's gun

6. The View

7. Being a woman reporter

Eh - not so impressive when you actually list them out.

John J. McGinty, RIP

Mr. McGinty, who joined the service in 1958 directly after high school, was a drill instructor at the Marine boot camp in Parris Island, S.C., and a brig officer at the Norfolk, Va., naval base before volunteering for duty in Vietnam in 1966.

"I didn't want to be earning my pay guarding a bunch of AWOL sailors," he told Edwin F. Murphy, author of the 1987 book "Vietnam Medal of Honor Heroes."

For his actions during a battle in 1966 he was awarded the Medal of Honor. His citation may well be the only one with the phrase 'attacking hordes'. He died last week at age 73.

ScarJo Stands Up For SodaStream, Israel

You see SodaStream is an Israeli company which makes them bad, bad, bad so anyone who works for or supports them is bad as well. Sadly this may hurt her career in Europe and dark blue areas of the US.

In the meantime, Johansson deserves applause for being willing to take the heat for standing up for SodaStream. The attack on SodaStream shows the true face of the BDS movement. They don't care how good the company is for the regional economy or even the Palestinians who work there. They don't care that the "settlement" in which it exists would almost certainly remain within Israel if a peace treaty with the Palestinians were to be signed. All they care about is demonizing the very existence of the Jews who live there. As the abuse from Aslan and the rest of the BDS movement shows, that same demonization will apply to anyone, even an Obama-supporting politically correct liberal Democrat like Johansson. Though this may not have been a fight that she would have chosen to engage in, Johansson must now show that she and others prepared to stand with Israel won't be intimidated.

Well I just like their products - the fact that it outrages all the right people is a pleasant bonus.

Gear Whores Guard the Starbucks

So Gear Whores Anonymous pointed out this picture of two MD state troopers guarding Starbucks after the mall shooting this weekend who seem to have every possible piece of gear and accessories attached to themselves as well as a rifle, shotgun, and pistol and of course tactical duct tape and (I assume) tactical athletic cups.

On the other hand one of them is wearing a Molon Labe patch which I'm guessing is not officially approved.

Meanwhile in Canada

The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

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1 Yay!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:45 PM (DmNpO)

2 Howdy, y'all!

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 06:46 PM (T1005)

3 I KNEW there would be an ONT.

I hoped so, anyway.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 06:46 PM (4Mv1T)

4 Gear Whores - they clank and clatter, move slowly, and generally get tired easily.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:47 PM (DIg/e)

5 very nice

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 06:47 PM (zELMe)

6 I like my Soda Stream

Posted by: tmitsss at January 27, 2014 06:48 PM (Pa9vP)

7 Now they will feel the power of this FULLY OPERATIONAL WAR-ZEPPELIN!

Posted by: The Koch Brothers at January 27, 2014 06:49 PM (Yo5ty)

8 Surprise! The Media Lies About a War On Women The media is obsessed with declaring that Republicans are waging a war on women, while ignoring the many, many, many very real actions of Democrats. This is not to say that all Republicans are angels, but that by and large the stereotype of Republicans wanting to keep women barefoot and pregnant is hogwash. When the media canÂ’t find a real example of a Republican being truly anti-woman (i.e. the vast majority of the time), they simply distort the truth or just out right lie and invent their own false narrative. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=4761

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2014 06:49 PM (XvHmy)

9 Should we go get willow?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:49 PM (DIg/e)

10 Re: MD state troopers Dude! I noticed that too Thery were wearing groin protectors on their IBA full on gear queers

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 06:50 PM (zELMe)

11 They preemptively closed schools here tomorrow because they think it might snow.

Only in NC.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 06:50 PM (4Mv1T)

12 NYT: Fear the Power of the Koch War Zeppelin

Are they going to play Whole Lotta Love?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 27, 2014 06:51 PM (FE/sZ)

13 I like the texting mitt. I can see that it would be useful in the kind of places, unlike here, where on Winter days such as this it was in the 70's.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:51 PM (DmNpO)

14 Wtf, our troops don't seem to be as laden down with gear as those two cops, jeez.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at January 27, 2014 06:51 PM (IPz9m)

15 Left Coast Lefties gonna Left Coast Lefty...that is totally freak out.

From CDR Salamader's blog: http://tinyurl.com/m24u5dw

Original article (scroll through the comments for entertainment): http://tinyurl.com/mr2x5jy

It seems ~~POS~~ LCS-2 is in port, looking like shit, and the natives are pissing their pants.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 06:51 PM (CWquH)

16 I've got it! We'll use the war zeppelin to monitor autistic children!

Posted by: Chuck Schumer at January 27, 2014 06:51 PM (9F2c1)

17 Meanwhile thieves break into a small obscure chapel in Italy to steal a reliquary containing the blood of Pope John Paul II.

http://tinyurl.com/kna4739

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:51 PM (DIg/e)

18
Extra gear usually involved more ammo.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 27, 2014 06:52 PM (SAMxH)

19 Only in NC.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 10:50 PM (4Mv1T)

Nah, they're doing it here in GA as well.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 06:52 PM (CWquH)

20 "Allegations like these about her resume, if they persist and/or lead to other problems with the campaign, are perilous to that perception."

"If","allegations", and "perception". Well played, MFM.

Not "because". Not "facts". Not "reality".

Rat-cfuking bastages all.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 06:52 PM (eHIJJ)

21 Are they sure those two cops weren't extras on another Red Dawn remake?

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at January 27, 2014 06:52 PM (IPz9m)

22 Hey now. Remember, our state has Baltimore in it.

Posted by: Maryland State Police at January 27, 2014 06:53 PM (9F2c1)

23 So THIS is where everybody went!

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 06:53 PM (bb5+k)

24 17 Meanwhile thieves break into a small obscure chapel in Italy to steal a reliquary containing the blood of Pope John Paul II. http://tinyurl.com/kna4739 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 10:51 PM (DIg/e) Soon to show up on EBay I imagine.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 06:53 PM (UAMVq)

25 is obama gonna speak bout his son shooting up a mall in maryland in his reading tomorrow ?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 06:53 PM (rDidD)

26 hi all
phew, made it to the ONT
i can haz war zeppelin?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 06:53 PM (9GG/0)

27 A right-wing war zeppelin? That's a good idea. I like that. We'll start the ball rolling and get funding approved at the next VRWC meeting Koch-willing. Think it'll bring the paulbots onboard? They luvs them their Zeppelins.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 27, 2014 06:53 PM (E+HkB)

28 Why does Chuck Schumer hate the developmentally disabled?

Posted by: cm9000 at January 27, 2014 06:53 PM (3qZbZ)

29 ScarJo is back on my "Like the fist of an angry God" list.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2014 06:54 PM (lr3d7)

30 Baltimore, MD - the place that gave the Russian cruise ship the cannibal rats.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:54 PM (DIg/e)

31 7 Meanwhile thieves break into a small obscure chapel in Italy to steal a reliquary containing the blood of Pope John Paul II. http://tinyurl.com/kna4739 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 10:51 PM (DIg/e) well real men would have dug him up and gotten his dna.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 06:54 PM (rDidD)

32 Meanwhile thieves break into a small obscure chapel in Italy to steal a reliquary containing the blood of Pope John Paul II. *** Nancy Pelosi. She must drink of it to remain young and beautiful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:54 PM (DmNpO)

33 28 Why does Chuck Schumer hate the developmentally disabled? Posted by: cm9000 at January 27, 2014 10:53 PM (3qZbZ) He's self-loathing.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 06:54 PM (UAMVq)

34 Only in NC.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 10:50 PM (4Mv1T)
Nah, they're doing it here in GA as well.
Posted by: Country Singer
--------------------------------

As soon as all the transplants here start screaming about what wussies we are, I'll scream, "THEY'RE DOING IT IN GEORGIA, TOO, FER CRYIN' OUT LOUD!!!"

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 06:55 PM (4Mv1T)

35 is it true that the cannibal rats sailing on ss obamacare cut the cable to the tug when they heard it was docking in the us and not the dominican republic?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 06:55 PM (rDidD)

36 Does anyone here wear an orthodontic device for sleep apnea? If so, how long before my teeth and gums stop hurting?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 06:55 PM (DmNpO)

37 I wish I'd had sons instead of daughters. Girls are just...icky.

Posted by: Barry Soetero at January 27, 2014 06:55 PM (UAMVq)

38
The tracking devices would not be implanted, but would instead be attached to watches, ankle bracelets, belts, or shoelaces.

Because as we all know, autistic kids are completely incapable of learning to operate buckles, velcro and string.

On the serious side, I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks this is just a practice run for a more comprehensive tracking program. High tech Soviet internal passports.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2014 06:55 PM (aYjRw)

39 Help me out with this soda stream, please. You need a water supply, correct? A pressurized, plumbed water source. You connect the syrup bottle, the co2 bottle, and the water supply, and the Soda Stream mixes the three, right?

It's the only way I can see it work. Thanks for the input.

Posted by: Number Five at January 27, 2014 06:55 PM (GyG+f)

40 so is schumer suggesting everyone wear the same tracker he does?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 06:56 PM (rDidD)

41 Even with my recently reduced soda intake, I still go through a decent bit of it. Is SodaStream any good? What's the caffeine level in the soda it turns out? Same as a regular mass produced soda?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 06:56 PM (GEICT)

42 I've got a Macy's gift card and didn't know what I didn't need - now I'm sold SodaStream it is. Can I get CokeZero flavor packs?

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 06:56 PM (4JkHl)

43 First we chip the pets.
Then we chip the disabled.
Finally everyone else.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:56 PM (DIg/e)

44 Witness the power of this fully operational right wing war zeppelin!!!!

Posted by: Koch Vader at January 27, 2014 06:56 PM (Aif/5)

45 When a Dem is caught lying, it's a "distraction from the serious issues of this election" while when a Repub is caught lying, it's a "serious concern about his fitness to hold office".

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2014 06:56 PM (lr3d7)

46 I have a slightly funny story I was waiting for the ONT to tell. I was trying to make reservations on Icelandic Air this afternoon. After waiting on hold for 10 minutes listening to Icelandic music (which frankly should be a human rights violation) I spoke with a nice customer service rep. He had what I consider a typical Icelandic accent based on my encounters with other people from Iceland. He can't resolve my issue and says he will find an answer and call me back. He tells me his name and I am like "what?" he repeats "My name is Pedro" Ok maybe it isn't that funny but it gave me a chuckle.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 06:56 PM (RZ8pf)

47 CA Supreme Court: Illegal Alien Should Get License to Practice Law Well of course. It's not like attorneys are officers of the court or expected to follow the law or anything. My thoughts on that here: http://tinyurl.com/maq5pg4

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 27, 2014 06:57 PM (XvHmy)

48 Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 10:55 PM (4Mv1T)

To be fair, it's shaping up to be a typical snowfall event for the south, meaning it's raining now and the temperature is plummeting, so there will be a nice layer of ice under the snow.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 06:57 PM (CWquH)

49 "What Barbara Walters Will Be Remembered For When She Retires This Year"

I'll remember Wawa because of Gilda Radner. Radner mainstream-immortalized Wawa when Wawa was just beginning her career in gooey mush.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 06:57 PM (eHIJJ)

50 Number5, I think you put water in like a coffee maker. (Not an expert, just googled it)

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 06:57 PM (4JkHl)

51 schumer needs some electric shock contacts to stop him from lying.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 06:57 PM (rDidD)

52 I bet you Harry Reid is in favour of the autistic kids' tracking devices too.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 06:57 PM (NU/ou)

53 A mark upon the forehead and/or forearm would work.

Posted by: AC at January 27, 2014 06:57 PM (AeoJf)

54 NDH, if so... then Nancy did not choose wisely.

Nancy, "Ah...... aaaahhhhh!!!!! I'm melti...."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 06:58 PM (DIg/e)

55 Can't we just give autistic kids a cellphone and call the NSA if they wander off?

Posted by: Xavier at January 27, 2014 06:58 PM (OW+Od)

56 Posted by: Number Five at January 27, 2014 10:55 PM (GyG+f)

You fill the bottle with tap water, inject the CO2 into it, and then add a cap full of syrup and close it up and mix.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2014 06:58 PM (lr3d7)

57 39 Help me out with this soda stream, please. You need a water supply, correct? A pressurized, plumbed water source. You connect the syrup bottle, the co2 bottle, and the water supply, and the Soda Stream mixes the three, right? It's the only way I can see it work. Thanks for the input. Posted by: Number Five at January 27, 2014 10:55 PM (GyG+f) Not quite. You fill the bottle with chilled water and thread it onto the Soda Stream. You push on a lever a few times to carbonate the water. You remove the bottle and add flavored syrup to the carbonated water. You close and gently turn the bottle to mix the syrup.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 06:58 PM (UAMVq)

58 "My name is Pedro" Ok maybe it isn't that funny but it gave me a chuckle. Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 10:56 PM (RZ8pf) Perfect. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 27, 2014 06:58 PM (GEICT)

59 Gear gays.

"Does this gear make me look fat, or does it make me look muscular and intimidating? "

Is it common for SWAT to be injured by IEDs? Or does the presence of all that gear protect them from injury when all those IEDs detonate?

Posted by: Flambeau is an option at January 27, 2014 06:58 PM (GyG+f)

60 TFG's son shot up that mall?

Oh, my. That's interesting.

Scramble the zeppelins!

Posted by: Jaws at January 27, 2014 06:59 PM (Rbtz3)

61 I am calling on leaders of the Democratic Party to condemn the hateful remarks of Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: cm9000 at January 27, 2014 06:59 PM (3qZbZ)

62 TFG's son shot up that mall? Oh, my. That's interesting. Scramble the zeppelins! Posted by: Jaws at January 27, 201 looks like him.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 06:59 PM (rDidD)

63 32 Meanwhile thieves break into a small obscure chapel in Italy to steal a reliquary containing the blood of Pope John Paul II. *** Nancy Pelosi. She must drink of it to remain young and beautiful. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 10:54 PM (DmNpO) More likely she'd burst into flames.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 06:59 PM (UAMVq)

64 >>Nancy Pelosi. She must drink of it to remain young and beautiful. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse Looks like she has been coming up dry.

Posted by: Aviator at January 27, 2014 06:59 PM (DI+ja)

65 52 I bet you Harry Reid is in favour of the autistic kids' tracking devices too. Posted by: andycanuck at January 27, 2014 10:57 PM (NU/ou) Don't you just hate it when the children escape your dungeon...I mean, home?

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 27, 2014 07:00 PM (WlWt+)

66 53 A mark upon the forehead and/or forearm would work. Posted by: AC at January 27, 2014 10:57 PM (AeoJf) Just what I was thinking.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 07:00 PM (bb5+k)

67 "Gear Whores Guard the Starbucks"

You know Starbucks could've just let 2nd Amdt open carry customers drink in their shops and avoided such ugly scenes.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 27, 2014 07:00 PM (eHIJJ)

68
Someone get Her Highness.

Rare photos of The Ravage at this year's SHOT show.

http://tinyurl.com/pzs6q8t

No spiders.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2014 07:00 PM (aYjRw)

69 someone needs a splain to those troopers that tacticool is high speed low drag, not a walking bunker.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 07:00 PM (rDidD)

70 Everything is the business of the government. Fortunately they are intelligent, honest, and humble people; and there is nothing to fear. Besides, I want a free trackers for my small sheep herd so I can have local law enforcement find them when they stray.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at January 27, 2014 07:01 PM (hpgw1)

71 Get it straight, I bathe in the blood of virgins to remain young and beautiful.

Posted by: Aunty Nancy at January 27, 2014 07:01 PM (AeoJf)

72 I like my soda stream too. We mainly use it for fizzy water though. Not sure if they have changed the flavorings but if not be careful because the ones that are just the regular ones still contain nutra sweet so they can get the sweet without the corn syrup and still stay lower calorie. You can get ones that I think are labeled "natural" that don't have the nutra sweet if you are trying to avoid that. Which I am.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 07:01 PM (RZ8pf)

73 ScarJo on Soda Stream I remain a supporter of economic cooperation and social interaction between a democratic Israel and Palestine," said Johansson. "SodaStream is a company that is not only committed to the environment but to building a bridge to peace between Israel and Palestine, supporting neighbors working alongside each other, receiving equal pay, equal benefits and equal rights."

Posted by: thunderb at January 27, 2014 07:01 PM (zOTsN)

74 "Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has proposed a far-reaching new law that would force taxpayers to..." The asshole sure does love him some taxpayer money.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 27, 2014 07:01 PM (itCai)

75 Get it straight, I bathe in the blood of virgins to remain young and beautiful. Posted by: Aunty Nancy well young and beautiful is a stretch, maybe go with active.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 07:02 PM (rDidD)

76 I keep driving by this on the way to work; some Morons were talking about minions in last night's ONT so figured I'd take a picture:

http://tinyurl.com/kn3lfqw

Posted by: Smash'em at January 27, 2014 07:02 PM (eOZVs)

77 I think I see an assault shotgun in that machine gun Kelley pic.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 27, 2014 07:02 PM (l0lja)

78 Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 10:55 PM (4Mv1T)

To be fair, it's shaping up to be a typical snowfall event for the south, meaning it's raining now and the temperature is plummeting, so there will be a nice layer of ice under the snow.
Posted by: Country Singer
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My 17yo is in private school. No school buses and related transportation issues associated with bad weather. So they don't cow tow to what the public schools do, even though the other private schools do.

I announced "no school tomorrow" at 10:30 PM and I think he had a nocturnal emission.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 07:02 PM (4Mv1T)

79 "My name is Pedro" Oh yeah. I always like the India call centers where a guy that sounds like Apu tells you his name is Sean or Dave.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 27, 2014 07:02 PM (E+HkB)

80 If were going to be buying scooters for every fat old lady, having health insurance cover tracking devices for autistic kids doesn't seem like a big problem. Not sure why the Fed have any role at all.

Now fixing Schumer's camera addiction will require shoving a 400mmlens up his ass, repeatedly, without lube, until he runs from press conferences shaking and defiling himself.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 07:02 PM (4JkHl)

81 Thank you everyone. It was never clear to me in the product descriptions.

Posted by: Number Five at January 27, 2014 07:02 PM (GyG+f)

82 Nice ONT again. Not picking any nits here, but on behalf of all us former, ex and retired military morons, the medal is the Medal of Honor. No congressional before it. That is quite a citation!

Posted by: LRob in OK at January 27, 2014 07:02 PM (0EkGc)

We lost this war. Because of politics.

http://tinyurl.com/ml65dho

And that is corrupt. We will lose Afghanistan also. For the same reason.

I am just sick of what this country has become.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 27, 2014 07:03 PM (BZAd3)

84 Dear Gear Whores, try the Jin-Roh look
http://youtu.be/4d2gBnUjI1E

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 07:03 PM (DIg/e)

85 I suppose the next thing those troopers are budgeting for is assault segways.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 07:03 PM (rDidD)

86 well young and beautiful is a stretch, maybe go with active.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 11:02 PM (rDidD)

Compared to what I would look like without the special regimen, this is young and beautiful.

Posted by: Aunty Nancy at January 27, 2014 07:03 PM (AeoJf)

87 NINE!

...plus eighty and the like.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:04 PM (lq3Ak)

88 Molon Heavy Laden.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at January 27, 2014 07:04 PM (dZGNV)

89 keep driving by this on the way to work; some Morons were talking about minions in last night's ONT so figured I'd take a picture:

http://tinyurl.com/kn3lfqw
Posted by: Smash'em

A farmer near here was doing Angry Bird haybales

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 07:05 PM (4JkHl)

90 Wendy Davis contacted Greta when they were discussing her staff mocking Greg Abbott being in a wheelchair During a commercial break, Davis sent the following statement to Greta Moments ago ON THE RECORD at 7pm we discussed State Senator Wendy Davis and received mid show this statement from her: (note the mocking in the video was NOT the Senator but people associated with her campaign but the statement is from her) Statement from Senator Wendy Davis: Â“The language used in this video about Greg Abbott is abhorrent. Greg Abbott has persevered through great personal challenge to raise a family, have a productive career, and for that he deserves our respect." of course, they attacked the press report of Project Veritas getting in trouble for Mary Landrieus phone investigation

Posted by: thunderb at January 27, 2014 07:05 PM (zOTsN)

91
I see uniformly good trigger discipline in that Kelly pic.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 27, 2014 07:05 PM (SAMxH)

92 At least those Maryland troopers didn't have the dreaded AR-15 shotgunz!!1!

Posted by: CNN at January 27, 2014 07:05 PM (Aif/5)

93 Hah, awesome!

Posted by: Smash'em at January 27, 2014 07:05 PM (7WWu1)

94 with so much gear I am surprised his patch does not say "molon labe, please"

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 07:05 PM (rDidD)

95 "So Gear Whores Anonymous pointed out this picture of two MD state troopers guarding Starbucks"

Re the trooper on the left:

I guess we learned what Daria Morgendorffer got up to after high school.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 07:05 PM (gqT4g)

96 Those MD state troopers probably have $6k of gear on them. and they had about 30 show up in the picks I've seen your tax payers need to get to work

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 07:06 PM (zELMe)

97 Heh. This is upside down. I remember Walters mostly because of Gilda Radner. FF to 1:28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQvRFrpKi-0

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 07:06 PM (aDwsi)

98 a right-wing war-zeppelin? I'd throw $100 at a Kickstarter for this... g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 07:06 PM (JMmQ9)

99 I hope Piers Morgan chokes on his Kinder egg.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 07:06 PM (UAMVq)

100 And that is corrupt. We will lose Afghanistan also. For the same reason. I am just sick of what this country has become. Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 27, 2014 11:03 PM (BZAd3) There are consequences to allowing an Evil Idiot to gain power. He is definitely leveraged destruction.

Posted by: D-Lamp at January 27, 2014 07:07 PM (bb5+k)

101 Greetings from Nashvegas, morons.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at January 27, 2014 07:07 PM (un8zR)

102 94 with so much gear I am surprised his patch does not say "molon labe, please" Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 11:05 PM (rDidD) "Molon Labe for me but not for thee."

Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 07:07 PM (UAMVq)

103 I played with a gun once. At a stag party. We all played with each other's guns and had a smashing time.

Posted by: Pierced Organ at January 27, 2014 07:08 PM (Aif/5)

104 I just really feel like statistically there aren't that many Pedros in Iceland. But maybe there are? Maybe Pedro is short for some much longer and totally unpronounceable in English name?

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 07:08 PM (RZ8pf)

105 36 Does anyone here wear an orthodontic device for sleep apnea?

If so, how long before my teeth and gums stop hurting?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 10:55 PM (DmNpO)

CPAP -- the highest pressure my doctor had ever prescribed. Took a month for me to not feel like I'd be kicked in the chest by a mule every morning.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:08 PM (T1005)

106 Kids were watch Rocketeer this weekend and playing Crimson Skies; I'm up for War Zepellins

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 07:08 PM (4JkHl)

107 Well, my let it burn moment came early this week. Right now, the state gay marriage ban in Indiana is being deliberated. There was already one in place, but the language was considered "too strong" so it was removed, and condensed to a basic "Marriage is between one man and one woman" Period. Okay great. Now, I live in one of the, if not THE reddest county in the state. The City Council is 5-2 in favor of GOP members, with the 2 non GOP being "blue bloods." Tonight, the council passed a resolution AGAINST the state's gay marriage ban. Now, I am not sure why the city council is even addressing it, as it is a STATE issue. But, I am just blown away that in a conservative county like mine (There are Amish here, for Pete's sake), the council is going against a gay marriage ban. The vote was 4-2. For one thing, they are going expressly against what their constituents would choose. For two, I feel like the fight is lost at this point. If the people who should be holding down the fort are throwing in the towel...what can we do?

Posted by: TickledPink at January 27, 2014 07:09 PM (TZEUg)

108 Re the trooper on the left:

I guess we learned what Daria Morgendorffer got up to after high school.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 11:05 PM

Grrrrrrrr.... Feisty! I like it.

Posted by: upchuck at January 27, 2014 07:09 PM (9gNQd)

109 I hope Piers Morgan chokes on his Kinder egg. *** Here's a vid of most of the interview, but the Kinder Egg part isn't included. http://t.co/nw7fqiaMMZ

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:10 PM (DmNpO)

110 Posted by: cm9000 at January 27, 2014 10:59 PM (3qZbZ)

I hope you're not holding your breath.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 27, 2014 07:11 PM (FHNkr)

111 CPAP -- the highest pressure my doctor had ever prescribed. Took a month for me to not feel like I'd be kicked in the chest by a mule every morning. **** The CPAP route didn't work for me. I kept ripping it off in my sleep.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:11 PM (DmNpO)

112 Why do I fear that those troopers don't know how to use half of what they are wearing.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 07:11 PM (RZ8pf)

113 Time for the old folk.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 27, 2014 07:11 PM (SAMxH)

114 The CPAP route didn't work for me. I kept ripping it off in my sleep. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead ---------------- I tried it. Felt like the giant face spider had gotten me. I could not stand it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 07:12 PM (aDwsi)

115 Kerry Picket ‏@KerryPicket now Feinstein says she did not know abt the CIA annex before the Benghazi attack http://fb.me/6r2ApiWSX

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:13 PM (DmNpO)

116 109 I hope Piers Morgan chokes on his Kinder egg. *** Here's a vid of most of the interview, but the Kinder Egg part isn't included. http://t.co/nw7fqiaMMZ Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:10 PM (DmNpO) He is such an ass.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 07:13 PM (UAMVq)

117 Does anyone here wear an orthodontic device for sleep apnea? If so, how long before my teeth and gums stop hurting? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 10:55 PM (DmNpO) CPAP -- the highest pressure my doctor had ever prescribed. Took a month for me to not feel like I'd be kicked in the chest by a mule every morning. Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:08 PM I did a CPAP machine for a year...then decided it was easier to lose 90+ pounds than put up with that shit...

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 07:13 PM (JMmQ9)

118 Great, so now I can't hate Scarlett unconditionally???

Posted by: logprof at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (X3GkB)

119

Barrel

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (4Mv1T)

120

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (JMmQ9)

121 Why is this the business of the federal government? Color us perplexed. It's your life, therefore it's our business.

Posted by: The Federal Government at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (FcR7P)

122 AltonJackson, please report to The Barrel.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (UAMVq)

123 The "Molon Labe" guy is actually our plant. We're trying to find out how many Maryland state troopers would be willing to staff a right-wing war zeppelin, and what their salary expectations are.

Posted by: The Koch Brothers at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (9F2c1)

124 I tried it. Felt like the giant face spider had gotten me. I could not stand it. *** They've now hooked me up with a custom ortho device that I have to wear every night. It feels like my teeth are being driving up into my gums. they said I'll get used to it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (DmNpO)

125 Hello, I'm Pedo!

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (AeoJf)

126

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (IPz9m)

127 To the barrel!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (DIg/e)

128
Barrel, hoss.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 27, 2014 07:14 PM (aYjRw)

129 "The CPAP route didn't work for me. I kept ripping it off in my sleep."

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:11 PM (DmNpO)

It seems that I keep rolling over, continuously, like a crocodile. CPAP, (as well as anything resembling a partner), would have to be forgiving and flexible.

...neither of which are available at this point.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:15 PM (lq3Ak)

130 AJ - Too late. Hey..., take some pics while you're in there, OK?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 07:16 PM (aDwsi)

131 If Chuck Schumer is a Democrat, and Democrats are compassionate, why does he want to put tracking devices on children?

If Chuck Schumer is a Democrat, and Democrats are tolerant of those that are different, why does he want to single out autistic kids?

If Chuck Schumer is a Democrat, and Democrats are smart, why does he have such dumb ideas?

If Hillary Clinton is a Democrat, and Democrats are the party of the people, how come she hasn't driven a car since 1996?

This is stuff we need to say repeatedly to the left and the LIVs.

There are no answers to those questions that make them look good.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 27, 2014 07:16 PM (FHNkr)

132 >> Because as we all know, autistic kids are completely incapable of learning to operate buckles, velcro and string. Yeah, it doesn't really work like that. My son has one of these on his ankle, and it's on a strap that has to be cut to remove it. Agree with Maet. This is something that needs to be used more and made more widely available, but the federal government has zero business getting involved.

Posted by: Andy at January 27, 2014 07:16 PM (vGQV1)

133 104 I just really feel like statistically there aren't that many Pedros in Iceland. But maybe there are? Or he's a huge fan of that craptastic overhyped piece of shit movie Napoleon dynamite.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 27, 2014 07:17 PM (E+HkB)

134 Alton, Check out the stuffed llama in the corner, next to the bar in the barrel. I left him there on my last trip.

And by stuffed I mean, well you know...

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 07:17 PM (4Mv1T)

135

huhuh uh huhuh ... "flexible"... huhuhuhuh

Posted by: butthead at January 27, 2014 07:17 PM (9gNQd)

136 Here's the spatula, Alton.

Start at the top and work your way down.

*ProTip*- Hold Your Breath.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:17 PM (lq3Ak)

137 I'm a supporter of health care reform. I just believe it hasn't been reformed yet.

Posted by: Mindy at January 27, 2014 07:17 PM (mQwL2)

138 I have a question. Has anyone here ever taken a sleep study that did NOT result in a CPAP?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 07:18 PM (aDwsi)

139 114 The CPAP route didn't work for me. I kept ripping it off in my sleep.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead
----------------
I tried it. Felt like the giant face spider had gotten me. I could not stand it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 27, 2014 11:12 PM (aDwsi)

It might have been helpful that I learned to SCUBA first.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:18 PM (T1005)

140 You'll get used to it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k8t9hxsfYo

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 07:18 PM (NU/ou)

141

"Start at the top and work your way down"

huhuhuh uh huhuh uh huhuhuh...

Posted by: butthead at January 27, 2014 07:18 PM (9gNQd)

142 I couldn't sleep at all without my CPAP. My sleep study showed that I stopped breathing 111 times over the course of an hour. The Doctor told me that I probably hadn't really slept in several years. I would be dead now were it not for the machine

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 27, 2014 07:19 PM (jucos)

143 Yeah cover my mouth and nose with something while I am conscious and there might be blood drawn.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 07:19 PM (RZ8pf)

144 I have a question. Has anyone here ever taken a sleep study that did NOT result in a CPAP? *** I'm guessing that by the time you go to a pulmonologist and the insurance company agrees to pay for a sleep study, you've probably received a few checkpoints in the apnea column.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:19 PM (DmNpO)

145 Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 27, 2014 11:11 PM (RZ8pf)

It's not for actual use, it's to intimidate the sheeple into acting polite well-behaved and re-assure us that our benevolent government is here to help us.

I wouldn't be surprised if those guns weren't even loaded.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 27, 2014 07:20 PM (FHNkr)

146 yes as a parent of an aspie I am thrilled at a state, prolly followed by a national, registry for aspies and autistics. Which will expand to all people with neurologic disability. A registry of people. What could go wrong

Posted by: thunderb at January 27, 2014 07:20 PM (zOTsN)

147 I actually went to J-school but it struck me at a very young age (teens) how wrong the concept of a "celebrity journalist" was, and went against the whole ethic of responsible journalism. How things went downhill from there. Walters: Feh.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 27, 2014 07:20 PM (V4CBV)

148 Seven Moose for Seven Sisters

Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 07:20 PM (IGt4d)

149 You'll get used to it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k8t9hxsfYo *** Lovely. Now it will be stuck in my brain all night.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:20 PM (DmNpO)

150 I've never entered a "study".

I merely wake up with everything wrapped around me like a meat-cloth doobie.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:21 PM (lq3Ak)

151 Here is an excellent article about Bob Dylan: http://www.esquire.com/features/who-is-this-bob-dylan-interview-0214 Seriously, it's one of the best I've ever read. See also the first comment by Al Mayo. Special bonus: The account of the New Jersey police officer who picked him up in 2009 on suspicion of vagrancy: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/dylan-buble

Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2014 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

152 Yes, its The.Barrel.Â™ for me Someone else please fcuk up soon, I don't have enough reading material to over-night in The.Barrel.Â™

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 07:21 PM (JMmQ9)

153 142 I couldn't sleep at all without my CPAP. My sleep study showed that I stopped breathing 111 times over the course of an hour. The Doctor told me that I probably hadn't really slept in several years. I would be dead now were it not for the machine

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 27, 2014 11:19 PM (jucos)

That's where I was -- I think I was 96 times, and my blood oxygen level was low enough to cause dain bramage.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:21 PM (T1005)

154 There are no answers to those questions that make them look good.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 27, 2014 11:16 PM (FHNkr)

And yet they always win. Welcome to the rigged game.

Posted by: cm9000 at January 27, 2014 07:22 PM (3qZbZ)

155 I couldn't sleep at all without my CPAP. My sleep study showed that I stopped breathing 111 times over the course of an hour. The Doctor told me that I probably hadn't really slept in several years. I would be dead now were it not for the machine *** I'm in the mild to moderate column. I only stop breathing every 7 minutes or so. 111 times an hour is incredible.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:22 PM (DmNpO)

156 A registry of people. What could go wrong Not a thing. You can trust us. Swearsies!

Posted by: Adolph Hitler at January 27, 2014 07:22 PM (E+HkB)

157 If you Morons need some comic relief, and I bet you do, check out the user reviews to the $40,000 Samsung TV on amazon. Hilarious:

http://tinyurl.com/ny4mqkc

Posted by: Iasonas at January 27, 2014 07:23 PM (FHNkr)

158 ...not to mention the "panic attacks" that clear anything not nailed down from my night table.

But I'm not a "Siamese Twin", nor am I buried under an avalanche and paralyzed.

...so I'm all good.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:23 PM (lq3Ak)

159 I'm in the mild to moderate column. I only stop breathing every 7 minutes or so. 111 times an hour is incredible.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:22 PM (DmNpO)

_______________________

I used to "wake up" every morning feeling like I just lost a violent fist fight. It was not good.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 27, 2014 07:24 PM (jucos)

160 This is what I have now. http://bit.ly/1mQBryf

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:24 PM (DmNpO)

161 Someone else please fcuk up soon, I don't have enough reading material to over-night in The.Barrel.Â™

You know no one sleeps in here, don't you? That hole in the side isn't for cleaning.

Posted by: The Barrel at January 27, 2014 07:24 PM (wSrLR)

162 151 Here is an excellent article about Bob Dylan: http://www.esquire.com/features/who-is-this-bob-dylan-interview-0214 Seriously, it's one of the best I've ever read. See also the first comment by Al Mayo. Special bonus: The account of the New Jersey police officer who picked him up in 2009 on suspicion of vagrancy: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/dylan-buble Posted by: rickl at January 27, 2014 11:21 PM (sdi6R) --Esquire = Naked Mole Rat of Journalism Charles P. Pierce = Anal Hair of Esquire

Posted by: logprof at January 27, 2014 07:25 PM (X3GkB)

163 Christ, I've self-reported to The.Barrel.Â™ I get it, OK?

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 07:25 PM (JMmQ9)

164 That mitt is for Radio Control toys, not specifically just for texting. Now, back to #1 to start reading.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 27, 2014 07:26 PM (ojnk6)

165 'Smart TV', that 's what I need. . . or is that an oxymoron?

Posted by: Flambeau for the artistic effect. at January 27, 2014 07:26 PM (GyG+f)

166 This is what I have now.

http://bit.ly/1mQBryf

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:24 PM (DmNpO)

________________________

Does it work?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 27, 2014 07:26 PM (jucos)

167 Posted by: cm9000 at January 27, 2014 11:22 PM (3qZbZ)

Since so much of our society is controlled by the left and the and the big GOvernmentParty is feckless, we have to start somewhere. Post this stuff on facebook, say it to your leftist friends, family, neighbors and co-workers. They get upset? Who cares. Things won't change until people are brought out of their MSM/LIV cocoons.

It might be a long journey, but if we can turn a vote here and there...

Posted by: Iasonas at January 27, 2014 07:26 PM (FHNkr)

168 I saw Koch War Zeppelin open for Iron Butterfly at the New Haven Coliseum in 71

Posted by: phreshone at January 27, 2014 07:26 PM (Pr6hk)

169 "Christ, I've self-reported to The.Barrel.Â™

I get it, OK"

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 11:25 PM (JMmQ9)

Settle down, Beavis. This isn't a "Court of Law". This is a kangaroo kourt and you may feel a little sting.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:28 PM (lq3Ak)

170 Things won't change until people are brought out of their MSM/LIV cocoons. Posted by: Iasonas at January 27, 2014 11:26 PM (FHNkr) ahem,

Posted by: the burning times at January 27, 2014 07:28 PM (zELMe)

171 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 10:51 PM (DIg/e) Vampires!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 27, 2014 07:29 PM (Bps3R)

172 159 I'm in the mild to moderate column. I only stop breathing every 7 minutes or so. 111 times an hour is incredible.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:22 PM (DmNpO)
_______________________
I used to "wake up" every morning feeling like I just lost a violent fist fight. It was not good.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 27, 2014 11:24 PM (jucos)

I used to "wake up" in the morning actually in my office, with no recollection of how I got there.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:29 PM (T1005)

173 Does it work? **** I just got it today. When they first put it in it hurt so bad I almost cried. They immediately took it out and ground down the area around where my crown is located and improved it considerably. As for the odds of it working, apparently they are really great devices for those with no more than moderate apnea but, in my case, my jaw is not very mobile so there is less of a chance of success. Still, it was $2400 and the insurance company paid for it so I'm willing to give it a try. They said that after a few days I'll break in the device and it won't be as uncomfortable.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:30 PM (DmNpO)

174 ahem, Posted by: the burning times

Be patient, my friend. Your time is nearly due.

Posted by: Math at January 27, 2014 07:30 PM (wSrLR)

175 man, this fight started at 5 am and it's still going on

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 07:31 PM (bStrg)

176 173 Does it work?

****

I just got it today. When they first put it in it hurt so bad I almost cried. They immediately took it out and ground down the area around where my crown is located and improved it considerably.

As for the odds of it working, apparently they are really great devices for those with no more than moderate apnea but, in my case, my jaw is not very mobile so there is less of a chance of success.

Still, it was $2400 and the insurance company paid for it so I'm willing to give it a try. They said that after a few days I'll break in the device and it won't be as uncomfortable.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:30 PM (DmNpO)

Which model did you get?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:31 PM (T1005)

177 I'm surprised Chuck Schumer hasn't yet asked for tracking devices on Tea Party Members, but I guess the IRS handles that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 27, 2014 07:32 PM (7kkQJ)

178 You know no one sleeps in here, don't you? That hole in the side isn't for cleaning. Posted by: The Barrel at January 27, 2014 11:24 PM that's what I'm afraid of...

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 07:32 PM (JMmQ9)

179

Today was Holocaust Remembrance Day.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at January 27, 2014 07:33 PM (BZAd3)

180 I actually knew why I felt "beat-up" when I woke up. I rolled/"flung" myself off of the bed and woke up in an extreme panic.

I knew what I had done because my night table was completely cleared of anything that didn't defy mass, force and gravity.

...plus the aforementioned "wrapping" of self in sheets, blankets, etc.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:33 PM (lq3Ak)

181 We're all autistic now!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 27, 2014 07:33 PM (Bps3R)

182 yeah Piers Morgan is just a TV bully, really. he hops on TV and lectures and preaches and shows emotional clips and asks leading questions and just harasses his interview subjects. I thought the senator dude did a good job but I still felt sorry for him. the senator was expecting a discussion, and not the disrespectful bullying that he received.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 07:34 PM (9GG/0)

183 I was raised and stil live near Columbia, MD... do that pic outdide the Mall Starbucks on the ONT is a little surreal. During the response I was driving to Annapolis and knew someting was up as every five minutes i'd see an undercover police car racing the other direction with sirens on. Very odd... seing pick-up trucks and toyota corrolas with police sirens. I actually thought we might have gone to war or something a they were headed in same direction as NSA.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 27, 2014 07:34 PM (UOjzE)

184 Whenever New Yorkers like to brag about how superior they are to other people (which is often), I just think about the people they elect. And then I laugh inside a little.

Unfortunately, my state isn't much better but I personally don't think my birthplace makes me better than the next guy.

Posted by: Iasonas at January 27, 2014 07:34 PM (FHNkr)

185 Bristol Palin on Wendy Davis "She left her kid, husband, made it into a false 'made-for-tv-movie-type-tale' and then demanded that Texans have the right to kill babies," Palin wrote. "ThatÂ’s the woman you libs can really get behind!" Davis to Bristol Palin Â“With all due respect to Miss Palin, of course, nothing that was said in that tweet is true," "I am very proud of the mother that I have been to my daughters. I have always been and will always be the most important female in their life. They are the most important thing to me."

Posted by: thunderb at January 27, 2014 07:34 PM (zOTsN)

186 Yo Morons

Posted by: fluffy at January 27, 2014 07:34 PM (Ua6T/)

187 175 man, this fight started at 5 am and it's still going on

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 11:31 PM (bStrg)

this is Eve?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 07:35 PM (9GG/0)

188 Lets see what happened today in history?

Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviets.
Paris Peace Accords were signed, 'ending' US involvement in Vietnam and getting John McCain back

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 07:36 PM (DIg/e)

189 I use a CPAP. And never had any problem with the claustrophobia or alligator roll. But I have the bad habit of watching TV or sitting in my Lazyboy reading the ONT and falling asleep before I put it on. So I often wake at 3 realize I'm not wearing it and only get 3 hours of good sleep. If the dental things work that would be better for me since the mask gets in the way of watching TV or reading the computer. So I might actually put it in place before I fall asleep.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 07:36 PM (TI3xG)

190 ...okay. Now that I have established "territory", I can read the content of The ONT.

...BRB.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:36 PM (lq3Ak)

191 this is Eve?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 11:35 PM (9GG/0)

yeah, it's a Titan Holocaust. Record sat at 12 killed in a single battle, today's fight is at 60 or so and still more fighting

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 07:37 PM (bStrg)

192 if I may be so bold: thread winner, right here: I saw Koch War Zeppelin open for Iron Butterfly at the New Haven Coliseum in 71 Posted by: phreshone at January 27, 2014 11:26 PM perfect

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 07:38 PM (JMmQ9)

193 Dude, what do you like about Eve, if you don't mind me asking

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 07:39 PM (9GG/0)

194 Lore wise, there would be 10-20 million people killed all over someone not paying their sovereignty bill

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 07:39 PM (bStrg)

195 Still, it was $2400 and the insurance company paid for it so I'm willing to give it a try. They said that after a few days I'll break in the device and it won't be as uncomfortable. Obamacare Dentistry: Pay an $800 out of pocket and they send you a penknife and piece of ivory with instructions on how to whittle a tooth.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 27, 2014 07:39 PM (Bps3R)

196 What in the ever-loving fuck is this shit???? Just showed up in my email:
--------------------------
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You may owe use tax on purchases you made from Amazon.com LLC during the previous calendar year. The amount of tax you may owe is based on the total sales price of the items you purchased during the calendar year unless an exemption exists under state law or you have already paid the tax. A sale is not exempt under state law because it is made through the Internet. The total sales price of purchases you had shipped to Tennessee in 2013 was $17.99. This is the amount that you may include on your Tennessee use tax return to calculate the appropriate use tax owed unless you have already paid the tax.

As purchases from Amazon.com LLC can be made through various sales channels, we have included directly below your breakdown of purchases from the various channels.

Total sales from www.amazon.com $17.99
Total sales from www.endless.com $0.00
Total sales from www.myhabit.com $0.00
Total sales from www.amazonwireless.com $0.00
Total sales from www.amazonsupply.com $0.00
Total sales from www.dpreview.com $0.00

In addition, the state of Tennessee requires us to provide you with the following link that you can use to get more information and pay any taxes due:

Use Tax Page: https://apps.tn.gov/usetax

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 07:39 PM (CWquH)

197 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:30 PM (DmNpO)

Interesting side note.....you may find that it is easier to put in if you look straight up while you do it (while standing or sitting upright). If it does, and you do, make sure that you do not move your chin downward too rapidly afterward because then it might actually remove some teeth.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:39 PM (T1005)

198 Dude, what do you like about Eve, if you don't mind me asking

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 11:39 PM (9GG/0)

social aspect and seeing shit blowing up

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 07:40 PM (bStrg)

199 Which model did you get?
The Linda Lovelace???

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 07:40 PM (NU/ou)

200 Today was National Chocolate Cake Day. Tomorrow is National Have Fun At Work Day. It's also National Kazoo Day.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 27, 2014 07:40 PM (4Chvm)

201 I bought something for my mom and had it shipped to her directly. Now I owe tax?

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 07:40 PM (CWquH)

202 >>>>Be patient, my friend. Your time is nearly due. Posted by: Math at January 27, 2014 11:30 PM (wSrLR) thanks bro

Posted by: the burning times at January 27, 2014 07:42 PM (zELMe)

203 Which model did you get? ** the Somnomed acrylic

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:42 PM (DmNpO)

204 201 I bought something for my mom and had it shipped to her directly. Now I owe tax?

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 11:40 PM (CWquH)

Are both you and your mom in TN?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:42 PM (T1005)

205 sovereignty bill? is that kinda like a tribute payment?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 07:42 PM (9GG/0)

206 Are both you and your mom in TN?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:42 PM (T1005)

Nope, I'm in GA, she's in TN.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 07:42 PM (CWquH)

207 Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 11:40 PM (CWquH)

Those tracking devices for autistic kids won't pay for themselves!

Posted by: Chuck Schumer, Harvard Graduate at January 27, 2014 07:42 PM (FHNkr)

208 I just put it in and it feels like I have a toothache in every one of my front teeth.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:42 PM (DmNpO)

209 So we've gone from Dick Cheney's warcock to the Koch Brother's war zeppelin.

I'm curiously OK with this.

Snowmageddon is upon us, 5-8" possible between 3PM tomorrow afternoon and 3AM Wednesday morning in the greater Raleigh area. I plan on being by the fire with something alcoholic in my hand well before then. Anyone have a good hot toddy recipe? Or hot buttered rum? Anyone?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 27, 2014 07:43 PM (xa1/W)

210 hmm maybe I will try it out when I have more time, I see it is possible to run it under Linux, that is a plus

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 07:43 PM (9GG/0)

211 My aunt in Kentucky broke a tooth out of her dentures and super-glued it back in place. Crooked. (true story).

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 27, 2014 07:44 PM (Bps3R)

212 oh my one of my OTA (over the air) channels is a Viet Namese-American station. On now is a Vietnamese soap opera. Even though I can't understand a word they're saying (other that "okay") , it is surreal.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 07:44 PM (hpngP)

213 203 Which model did you get?

**

the Somnomed acrylic

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:42 PM (DmNpO)

I suspected, based on what you said about adjusting it. I'm wondering if the flex might have been been a better model, as it would probably start with some "give". But maybe it wouldn't have worked as well in the long run.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:44 PM (T1005)

214 Awww. That's cute that a Weeble Wobble is guarding Starbucks.

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2014 07:44 PM (Q6HBD)

215 Speaking of TN, I've seen written that, (on many levels), TN, SD, AK, TX and OK are the "freest states" by many, many measures.

...and in that order.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:45 PM (lq3Ak)

216 I just got it today. When they first put it in it hurt so bad I almost cried. They immediately took it out and ground down the area around where my crown is located and improved it considerably.

As for the odds of it working, apparently they are really great devices for those with no more than moderate apnea but, in my case, my jaw is not very mobile so there is less of a chance of success.

Still, it was $2400 and the insurance company paid for it so I'm willing to give it a try. They said that after a few days I'll break in the device and it won't be as uncomfortable. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

Did that include a Vietnamese mistress wearing only thigh high leather boots to strap it in like a ball gag.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 07:45 PM (4JkHl)

217 sovereignty bill? is that kinda like a tribute payment?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 11:42 PM (9GG/0)

there is a fee for owning space and stations. Well, the corporation who actually owned the system forgot to pay the bill so the sov was dropped and quickly turned into a free for all between us (Cluster Fuck Coalition) and Pandemic Legion/N3

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 07:45 PM (bStrg)

218 Anyone have a good hot toddy recipe? Or hot buttered rum? Anyone?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter
----------------------------------------

I have a GREAT one!

Unscrew bottle of high octane swill.

Pour.

Swill.

Rinse.

Repeat.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 07:45 PM (4Mv1T)

219 Today was National Chocolate Cake Day. Tomorrow is National Have Fun At Work Day. It's also National Kazoo Day. Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 27, 2014 11:40 tomorrow is also National Long-Johns Day. Seeing that the high tomorrow will be -2Â°, I will be participating.

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 07:46 PM (JMmQ9)

220 Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 11:45 PM (lq3Ak)

Normally, I would buy into that.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 07:46 PM (CWquH)

221 who's idea was it to squander the ship infested with cannibalistic vermin on an evening thread. it had overnight thread written all over the story. Is there some reason the cannucks did not send out a couple of f18s to sink the barge?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 07:46 PM (rDidD)

222 Which model did you get? *** So you have some experience with them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:46 PM (DmNpO)

223 Grammy nip-slip linked in my sock!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 07:46 PM (NU/ou)

224 That would have cost money, yankeefifith.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 07:47 PM (NU/ou)

225 Did that include a Vietnamese mistress wearing only thigh high leather boots to strap it in like a ball gag. *** If the pain doesn't get better over the next few days it will take someone with a whip to make me put it in.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 07:47 PM (DmNpO)

226 When I went on my Carnival cruise in 2001, one of the hired entertainers was this asian band. They looked liked teenagers, boys and girls. They played their instruments and sang American pop songs. It was so cute.

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 07:47 PM (hpngP)

227 well as for sodak being free, yeah it is free but it is not hard a be free if no one is around you. are you free or alone?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 07:48 PM (rDidD)

228 Is there some reason the cannucks did not send out a couple of f18s to sink the barge? Posted by: yankeefifth

I'm not sure they have a munition in their stocks that could sink a ship of that size.

Posted by: Jean at January 27, 2014 07:48 PM (4JkHl)

229 I heard on the radio this morning that Mumbles Dayton (Gov of Minnesota) has gone on bended knee to Obama to relax some regulations. This is due to a severe Propane shortage here. Price in August $1.42 a gallon price today $5.45 a gallon. Apparently there is plenty of Propane in Texas but "rules don't allow it shipment to here. WTF!!11!!

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 07:48 PM (TI3xG)

230 That would have cost money, yankeefifith. Posted by: andycanuck I had read y'all were not even sending planes over the north pole more than once or twice a year.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 07:49 PM (rDidD)

231 how steep is the learning curve in Eve

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 07:49 PM (9GG/0)

232 206 Are both you and your mom in TN?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:42 PM (T1005)
Nope, I'm in GA, she's in TN.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 11:42 PM (CWquH)

When the TN folks come knockin', tell 'em you have no nexus in TN. At 50 cents a stamp, they're not going to be chasing you that hard.

But, BTW, if you were in TN.....yep, the state would want sales/use tax on that. It's typically the same law, but "use" tax is if the seller didn't collect tax on what would have been a taxable sale if you had done it in a store.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:50 PM (T1005)

233 how steep is the learning curve in Eve

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 11:49 PM (9GG/0)

it's a fucking cliff

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 07:50 PM (bStrg)

234 If someone drops apple hard-cider into a pot with cinnamon sticks and honey?

...hell, it doesn't even need to be in that "order".

I'll be able to fend-off the Redd's Apple Ale crowd long enough to allow them to enjoy a real cauldron of excellence.

Posted by: Bobbing For Booze at January 27, 2014 07:51 PM (lq3Ak)

235 Apparently there is plenty of Propane in Texas but "rules don't allow it shipment to here. WTF!!11!! Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 11:48 PM (TI3xG) hello, y'all just wait

Posted by: the burning times at January 27, 2014 07:52 PM (zELMe)

236 222 Which model did you get?

***

So you have some experience with them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:46 PM (DmNpO)

Not these -- but I had braces and a retainer a long while ago.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:52 PM (T1005)

237 NDH keep us updated, I hope it works for you. I have to get something I snore and the dentist said I am also grinding my teeth away. something like this might help both

Posted by: The Jackhole at January 27, 2014 07:52 PM (uOV6o)

238 In EVE, don't be that innocuous miner.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 07:52 PM (DIg/e)

239 Isn't it great how giant internet corporations record every single purchase you make and then share that info with Uncle Govt. quick, let's get all our medical records on electronic databases!

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 07:52 PM (hpngP)

240 196 Theoretically, you are supposed ro report and pay state/local taxes on all purchases in which you were not charged tax by an out of state, online vendor. Which I do. Always. Swearsies Bob at NSA.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 27, 2014 07:52 PM (ojnk6)

241 Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:50 PM (T1005)

I figure I'll just pay it. Sales tax in TN is 7 percent. I'm not gonna miss $1.26.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 07:53 PM (CWquH)

242 Tomorrow is National Have Fun At Work Day. It's also National Kazoo Day. Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 27, 2014 11:40 PM I'm more of a harmonica guy than a kazoo guy, but I'll give it my bestest... as far as Have Fun At Work Day, sometime soon I should tell Teh.Hoarde. about Grilled.Cheese.Sammich.Day. @ The.Office.

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 07:53 PM (JMmQ9)

243 hello, y'all just wait

Posted by: the burning times>>

So here they wont be the burning times they'll be the freezing times.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 07:54 PM (TI3xG)

244 In EVE, don't be that innocuous miner.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 11:52 PM (DIg/e)

not unless you're in nullsec. Though frankly nullsec is the only place where you fee any sense of security doing anything. Being in low or hisec is scary

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 07:54 PM (bStrg)

245 241 Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:50 PM (T1005)

I figure I'll just pay it. Sales tax in TN is 7 percent. I'm not gonna miss $1.26.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 11:53 PM (CWquH)

Once you pay danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:54 PM (T1005)

246 234 If someone drops apple hard-cider into a pot with cinnamon sticks and honey? There is a 5-gallon bucket of home-made apple wine sitting on the front port as I type. It's -7 outside.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 27, 2014 07:54 PM (Bps3R)

247 Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 11:48 PM (TI3xG) Dear Leader told us his plan. Energy prices will skyrocket. Why do you doubt Dear Leader's wisdom?

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2014 07:55 PM (Q6HBD)

248 It's also National Kazoo Day. Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 27, 2014 11:40 PM "Also Sprach Zarathustra"Â… performed by kazoo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWN0xM-i2I8

Posted by: The Political Kazoo at January 27, 2014 07:57 PM (XvHmy)

249 I'm reading the comments on the GQA FB page, sorta funny

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 07:57 PM (zELMe)

250 Once you pay danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane. Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:54 PM (T1005) Or the Loch Ness Monster

Posted by: Chef's Mom at January 27, 2014 07:57 PM (XvHmy)

251 Did someone say Propane?

Posted by: Hank Hill at January 27, 2014 07:57 PM (FHNkr)

252 heyy waitaminute, this is a Texas Viet Nam station! What's it doing on way up here??

Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 27, 2014 07:57 PM (hpngP)

253 I had read y'all were not even sending planes over the north pole more than once or twice a year.
Not that I've read about especially as P.M. Harper is pushing Canada's Arctic sovereignty claims alot. I did read we (and NORAD?) were scrambling against Russian air intrusions starting several years ago. Maybe, just maybe, coinciding with an American governmental change about, say, 5 years ago.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 07:58 PM (NU/ou)

254 Did you guys know that the only Senator who has "turned out" more Lawyers, (through staff recommendations), to K-Street than Chuck-U Schumer was "Our Buddy Mitch McConnell"?

We are truly living in times that I cannot understand.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 07:58 PM (lq3Ak)

255 250 Once you pay danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane. Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:54 PM (T1005) Or the Loch Ness Monster Posted by: Chef's Mom at January 27, 2014 11:57 PM (XvHmy) All he wanted was about three-fiddy.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 27, 2014 07:58 PM (UAMVq)

256 236 222

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 11:46 PM (DmNpO)

Not these -- but I had braces and a retainer a long while ago.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:52 PM (T1005)

....and the "looking up" bit, was borrowed from discussion about doing an ESA on SCUBA.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 07:58 PM (T1005)

257 Anna, why, what happens to inocuous miners in EVE

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 07:59 PM (9GG/0)

258 hey, anyone see that link on drudge about the homewreckers.com site? really funny.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 08:00 PM (rDidD)

259 I'd pay $4.98 to hear Led Zeppelin's Cashmere covered by a harmonica band right now...

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 08:00 PM (JMmQ9)

260 Dear Leader told us his plan. Energy prices will skyrocket.

Why do you doubt Dear Leader's wisdom?>>

Guess I knew it was coming just didn't think he could do it this quickly. I bought a wood burner but haven't got it installed yet for just that purpose.

Though they'll make that illegal too and fire up my smoking chimney with a drone.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 08:00 PM (TI3xG)

261 Anna, why, what happens to inocuous miners in EVE

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 11:59 PM (9GG/0)

get ganked quite often

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 08:00 PM (bStrg)

262 I'm wondering if I took an aspirin at night before putting it in if that would help.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 08:00 PM (DmNpO)

263 Once you pay danegeld, you never get rid of the Dane.
And you end up with too much Saxon violence on TV.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 08:01 PM (NU/ou)

264 "There is a 5-gallon bucket of home-made apple wine sitting on the front port as I type. It's -7 outside"

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 27, 2014 11:54 PM (Bps3R)

I am bound by personal law to love you. I am also asking what you have done, via the recipe.

Hard cider MUST be propagated!

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 08:01 PM (lq3Ak)

265 259 I'd pay $4.98 to hear Led Zeppelin's Cashmere covered by a harmonica band right now... Posted by: AltonJackson at January 28, 2014 12:00 AM (JMmQ9) --Uh, it's Kashmir. How goes the Barrel?

Posted by: logprof at January 27, 2014 08:01 PM (X3GkB)

266 257 Anna, why, what happens to inocuous miners in EVE Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 11:59 PM (9GG/0) Easy pickings. I don't know, but I'd assume.

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2014 08:01 PM (Q6HBD)

267 Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 11:58 PM (lq3Ak)

Mitch McConnell is neither our buddy, nor our friend, nor our guy.

Posted by: Iasonas watches too much South Park at January 27, 2014 08:02 PM (FHNkr)

268 ok really sleepy now.
heading off to bed.
good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at January 27, 2014 08:02 PM (9GG/0)

269 obama is such a fuck up that even though he has done everything to wreck our energy access by restricting offshore drilling and closing coal plants we are on track to be independent on oil. heh, what a fuckwad.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 08:02 PM (rDidD)

270 So, now I'm wondering whereinhell my question went. Can anyone put me some knowledge about how many people are in a regiment or squad, and whether having 32 men in a platoon includes the 2nd LT in charge of it?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 08:02 PM (T1005)

271 "Mitch McConnell is neither our buddy, nor our friend, nor our guy."

Posted by: Iasonas watches too much South Park at January 28, 2014 12:02 AM (FHNkr)

LMAO! It is getting better and better to sound Canadian.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 08:03 PM (lq3Ak)

272 So, now I'm wondering whereinhell my question went. Can anyone put me some knowledge about how many people are in a regiment or squad, and whether having 32 men in a platoon includes the 2nd LT in charge of it? Posted by: cthulhu depends.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 08:03 PM (rDidD)

273 Good Night, chemjeff.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 08:04 PM (lq3Ak)

274 262 I'm wondering if I took an aspirin at night before putting it in if that would help.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 12:00 AM (DmNpO)

I'd suggest ibuprofen......but, then, aspirin never did jack for me.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 08:04 PM (T1005)

275 it's a shit metric (converting isk to real money) but you're looking at about $300000 worth of shit going up in smoke

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 08:05 PM (bStrg)

276 I'm wondering if I took an aspirin at night before putting it in if that would help.>>

What about that teething gel I used to use on the kids when they were little? Forget the name I'll go look it up.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 08:05 PM (TI3xG)

277 How goes the Barrel? Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 12:01 AM Lonely. And you are correct. I realized it as I hit "Enter" that I had fcuked up, yet again. It's been Monday all week.

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 08:05 PM (JMmQ9)

278 I don't know about the game but in real-life (as if!) three 10-man squads and 2 command types?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 27, 2014 08:05 PM (NU/ou)

279 all right, if no one is going to entertain me I am going to make the best of it and go to bed. It is almost a decent winter night out so I am going to declare a two dog night and go to bed.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 08:05 PM (rDidD)

280 So, now I'm wondering whereinhell my question went. Can anyone put me some knowledge about how many people are in a regiment or squad, and whether having 32 men in a platoon includes the 2nd LT in charge of it?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:02 AM (T1005)

It varies. Here's a link: http://tinyurl.com/csotkh

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 08:05 PM (CWquH)

281 http://tinyurl.com/6osklf Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:02 AM (T1005) That's the Army breakdown on paper.

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2014 08:06 PM (Q6HBD)

282 Posted by: The Dude at January 28, 2014 12:05 AM (bStrg)

How much is that in Courics?

http://tinyurl.com/4msbr4

Posted by: Iasonas watches too much South Park at January 27, 2014 08:06 PM (FHNkr)

283 I always wonder with these CPAP machines -- which are meant to keep up your blood oxygen level by forcing more pressurized air down your airway as you sleep -- whether it would be simpler and less invasive to just run an oxygen tent at ambient.

Sure, you'll quit breathing regularly, but those breaths which you do take will suffice to keep your O2 sats up to safe levels, amirite?

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 08:06 PM (gqT4g)

284 who wastes a ghost ship of diseased progressive cannibal vermin on an evening thread?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 08:06 PM (rDidD)

285 What about that teething gel I used to use on the kids when they were little? Forget the name I'll go look it up.
Jim Beam?

Posted by: joey biden at January 27, 2014 08:07 PM (NU/ou)

286 So, now I'm wondering whereinhell my question went. Can anyone put me some knowledge about how many people are in a regiment or squad, and whether having 32 men in a platoon includes the 2nd LT in charge of it? Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:02 AM 42? including the 2LT just a guess....

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 08:07 PM (JMmQ9)

287 You haven't dorked a commie until you've dorked Fidel. VIVA FIDEL!!!!

Posted by: Barbara Walters at January 27, 2014 08:07 PM (pJ9S7)

288 If a CPAP machine helps you sleep, then does a CRAP machine help a leftist talk?

Posted by: Iasonas at January 27, 2014 08:07 PM (FHNkr)

289 Orajel

Unless the problem is your jaw then nevermind.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 08:08 PM (TI3xG)

290 "My name is Pedro" **** What are you wearing? "Um, khakis." She sounds hideous.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 27, 2014 08:08 PM (pOYsB)

291 So, now I'm wondering whereinhell my question went. Can anyone put me some knowledge about how many people are in a regiment or squad, and whether having 32 men in a platoon includes the 2nd LT in charge of it?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:02 AM

It varies depending on what type of unit, but...

Rgt = 275 to 300 approx

Rgt = 180 to 200 approx (2x Btn's)

Squad = 10 to 12 sometimes less.

32 man platoon usually would include the Lt.

Posted by: otho at January 27, 2014 08:08 PM (9gNQd)

292 272 So, now I'm wondering whereinhell my question went. Can anyone put me some knowledge about how many people are in a regiment or squad, and whether having 32 men in a platoon includes the 2nd LT in charge of it?
Posted by: cthulhu

depends.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 28, 2014 12:03 AM (rDidD)

I was looking at the MOH citation at CDR Salamander, and I hit: "estimated enemy regiment. With each successive human wave which assaulted his 32-man platoon during the 4-hour battle, 2d Lt. McGinty rallied his men to beat off the enemy. In 1 bitter assault, 2 of the squads became separated from the remainder of the platoon. With complete disregard for his safety, 2d Lt. McGinty charged through intense automatic weapons and mortar fire to their position. Finding 20 men wounded and the medical corpsman killed...."

Being compelled to do so (accountant), I'm trying to figure out how the numbers work. If two squads got separated, and he found 20 men wounded and one medic killed, then the remainder of the 32-man platoon would have been no more than 11 people. And, since there were 500 enemy killed, a regiment must be bigger than that....but how much bigger?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 08:09 PM (T1005)

293 rub some scotch on their gums, single malt in case someone reports you to dcfs. also, you want your daughter to grow up with standards, no dating guys that drink low-end scotch.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 08:09 PM (rDidD)

294 OK, so I'll have to do some swill shopping tomorrow before Snowmageddon and use TR's recipe. But for now, back to work.

Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 27, 2014 08:09 PM (xa1/W)

295 >>>283 I always wonder with these CPAP machines -- which are meant to keep up your blood oxygen level by forcing more pressurized air down your airway as you sleep -- whether it would be simpler and less invasive to just run an oxygen tent at ambient. ----------- Can we just cut to the chase and talk about the benefits of a federally insured reverse mortgage?

Posted by: Fred Thompson at January 27, 2014 08:09 PM (pJ9S7)

296 The only good thing about Barbara Walters is that she provided another punchline for the Police Squad series. Forensic scientist Ted Olson does so at her expense as follows in the first episode:

Ted Olson: These guns are identical to the one that killed Jim Johnson. Watch carefully as I test fire this gun into these video tapes of Barbara Walters interviews.

[fires gun]

Ted Olson: As you can see, it completely destroys the Burt Reynolds interview, and everything from Bo Derek to Paul Newman - but only up to the point where Barbara asks him "is it difficult to love?" Now let me show you what happens when the gun is fired from three feet, which is the distance Sally claimed the shots were fired from.

[fires second gun]

Ted Olson: Notice, complete destruction, right up to the point where she asks Katharine Hepburn what kind of tree she'd like to be.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 27, 2014 08:09 PM (FvyJS)

297 there should be a tracking device on asshole's finances.

Posted by: seamrog at January 27, 2014 08:09 PM (pjvkI)

298 I have to ask, where or how did the CPAT craze start? My brother and dad have one as well as several of my friends. Where did this come from? 'Cause they think they are close to death without their machine.

Posted by: RWC at January 27, 2014 08:10 PM (Q6HBD)

299 Yay! It's officially State of the Union day!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 08:11 PM (DmNpO)

300 cpap? how does a speculum help you breathe?

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 08:11 PM (rDidD)

301 Okay, there's some serious wind gusts blowing outside my window tonight.

It can only mean that ALL of the neighbor's leaves are blowing back into my yard.

DAMMIT!!

KAAAAAAAAAHHHHNNNNNN!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 08:11 PM (4Mv1T)

302 Posted by: yankeefifth at January 28, 2014 12:05 AM (rDidD)

Are you not entertained?

...you've made your own gravy and now you're not entertained?

I'm quite sure you're tired. You have my blessings to hit the pillow, seeing as your self-contained knowledge-factory has been over-taxed.

Please enjoy the rest of your evening, Y5.

I'll miss you. Even though you refuse to adhere to "capitalizing" anything, via "English".

JUST KIDDING!

Keep making your own gravy, amigo!

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 08:12 PM (lq3Ak)

303 how does a speculum help you breathe? It's cold?

Posted by: garrett at January 27, 2014 08:12 PM (oEnM8)

304 cpap? how does a speculum help you breathe? *** Use it like a tongue depressor.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 08:12 PM (DmNpO)

305 Keep making your own gravy, amigo! Posted by: Slapwease I deliberately avoid capitalizing names of people and places I hold in low regard. I make an effort to capitalize everyone's names around here.

Posted by: yankeefifth at January 27, 2014 08:14 PM (rDidD)

306 So, now I'm wondering whereinhell my question went. Can anyone put me some knowledge about how many people are in a regiment or squad, and whether having 32 men in a platoon includes the 2nd LT in charge of it?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:02 AM

sorry...

Rgt = 900 approx

Rgt = 600 approx (2x Btn's)

Posted by: otho at January 27, 2014 08:14 PM (9gNQd)

307 ...a regiment must be bigger than that....but how much bigger?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:09 AM (T1005)

I think estimates of NVA regiment strength was in the 1000-1200 neighborhood.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 08:15 PM (CWquH)

308 if you're bored, you can be even more bored

http://www.twitch.tv/nick_fuzzeh

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 08:15 PM (bStrg)

309 Posted by: yankeefifth at January 28, 2014 12:14 AM (rDidD)

Easily explained. Succinct. Understood.

...rock on.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 08:16 PM (lq3Ak)

310 I have to ask, where or how did the CPAT craze start? My brother and dad have one as well as several of my friends.

Where did this come from? 'Cause they think they are close to death without their machine.>>

I don't think I'm close to death without my CPAP. I just know I feel more awake during the days where I have used it. And it's way cheaper than cocaine.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 08:16 PM (TI3xG)

311 John J. McGinty If you have not read his story yet, do thee so. Damn.

Posted by: logprof at January 27, 2014 08:16 PM (X3GkB)

312 It is good the left doesn't need Wendy Davis to win to preserve her future utility, since she sure isn't going to win, ut how does that work? Are they planning to run her against Ted Cruz in 2020, are they going to run her for attorney general? Or is Hilary going to make a state senator from Fort Worth who lost her only statewide election as her VP? Are they going to make her a cabinet secretary, I am having a hard time seeing this either Also how much Wendy Davis implosion do we need to destroy her prospects. A ten point defeat, a twenty point defeat? Having her senate district in Fort Worth reject her? I am just not following this logic. I suspect that this is just ass covering and it means national Dems are ready to abandon her, they just don't want to be anti woman.

Posted by: Roy at January 27, 2014 08:17 PM (/edXx)

313 I want a War Zeppelin....Now!

Posted by: dontheflyer at January 27, 2014 08:17 PM (vOcVu)

314 "Can anyone put me some knowledge about how many people are in a regiment or squad, and whether having 32 men in a platoon includes the 2nd LT in charge of it?"

Don't forget NCOs.

Also, the size differential from squad to regiment is considerable.

At the moment, the U.S. Army is standardized on a nine-soldier squad, including NCO. There are vigorous debates about this.

Not least that for mechanized infantry riding into battle under armor, fitting an entire 9-soldier squad into an adequately protected vehicle along with the vehicle crew, and then having that vehicle be air transportable, is difficult.

Engineering opinion is simply to have smaller squads, or to split existing squad headcount across two vehicles. This is strongly resisted by actual squad leaders, who point out that it's hard enough to keep unitary squads moving and fighting in unison as it is, without the complexities of keeping them synchronized while fragmented.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 27, 2014 08:17 PM (gqT4g)

315 t how many people are in a regiment or squad, and whether having 32 men in a platoon includes the 2nd LT in charge of it? Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:02 AM (T1005) full strength? USMC or USA?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 08:17 PM (zELMe)

316 Goodnight horde I'm going to try and go to sleep and forget the pain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOtMizMQ6oM

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 27, 2014 08:19 PM (DmNpO)

317 I have to ask, where or how did the CPAT craze start? My brother and dad have one as well as several of my friends. Where did this come from? 'Cause they think they are close to death without their machine. Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 12:10 AM[/] I don't know. As I mentioned up-thread, I used one for a year or so, including hauling ~~that shit~~ the hardware around on airplanes three times a month. Hated it; having the AlienÂ™ face-sucker on my head every night. Finally lost a third of my weight, and haven't had a sleep apnea problem since...

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 08:19 PM (JMmQ9)

318 Allegations like these about her rÃ©sumÃ©, if they persist and/or lead to other problems with the campaign, are perilous to that perception. You know what perceptions I have about someone who has the smarm and the luxury of typing two different accent aigues onto the basic fucking word RESUME is that they haven't spent much time lately frantically searching for a job (any job!)and mechanically entering in (by hand, because FUCK NO, WE CANNOT ALL AGREE ON SOME STANDARDIZED BASIC FORM FIELDS!! Also, our parser is going to fuck even your plain-text resume up so much you won't remember what decade you worked at where and when! But it will be differently fucked up, in different ways on every different site! :twisted

until you ACHE from filling out web-forms. Doesn't matter if they let you upload a resume and job history. Still have to fill in or correct all the pissy little details by hand. I imagine that Chris Cilizza hand delivers (or possibly messengers) his CV on Creme-Coloured Bond paper whenever he needs a gig to pay the bills. I hope to hell he gets the same reception that Ezra Klein did with his demand of a staff of 30 and $10 million or that I would if I tried that shit at my local Burger King. (I ain't too proud). Goodish news... I did get hired part-time at min. wage for Sears starting tomorrow and just got an an offer today for a full-time gig at a call center (which will be torture for me but...$$$ :roll

starting Friday. I hope I can do both but if it's a choice between min. wage part-time and $9.50 full-time, I guess I'll just have to inconvenience Sears then, won't I? I infinitely prefer the type and scope of work that Sears offers to a call center environment and the ability to parlay it into a better position but needs must and I HAVE TO think about my short-term, emergent, family needs at this moment. Sooo, how YOU GUYS been doin' these past few months?

Posted by: Deety at January 27, 2014 08:19 PM (daK3O)

319 283 I always wonder with these CPAP machines -- which are meant to keep up your blood oxygen level by forcing more pressurized air down your airway as you sleep -- whether it would be simpler and less invasive to just run an oxygen tent at ambient.

Sure, you'll quit breathing regularly, but those breaths which you do take will suffice to keep your O2 sats up to safe levels, amirite?

Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 12:06 AM (gqT4g)

No, the deal with OSA (obstructive sleep apnea) is that there are muscles that keep your airpipe round. When you're awake, all your muscles are going, but when you fall asleep, many of the voluntary ones go dormant. You get OSA either when your airpipe muscles are incorrectly regarded as "voluntary", or if they relax enough for the structure of your neck to overwhelm them (OSA is highly correlated with a dress-shirt neck size of >16, including both Pillsbury doughboys such as myself or NFL linebackers). So the pipe actually sags closed, until your blood oxygen level gets low enough that your brain goes into existential panic and wakes you up enough that the airpipe muscles open things up again. Being in an oxygen tent wouldn't help -- you'd hit the same lows, bounce out of it, and hit 'em again.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 08:20 PM (T1005)

320 looks like I've signed up for an extended stay in The.BarrelÂ™ FML

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 08:21 PM (JMmQ9)

321
Chuck Schumer Wants Tracking Devices on Autistic Children

Taking bets on how many Republican co-sponsors Chuck's Tard Tracker bill gets.

Over/Under is 2.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 27, 2014 08:21 PM (kdS6q)

322 Posted by: AltonJackson at January 28, 2014 12:19 AM (JMmQ9)>>

You don't come out here for the hunting do you?

Posted by: The Bear joke at January 27, 2014 08:23 PM (TI3xG)

323 At the moment, the U.S. Army is standardized on a nine-soldier squad, including NCO. There are vigorous debates about this. Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 12:17 AM (gqT4g) what do each of the nine do ? two m249 based fire teams, NCO, coms guy, guy #9 that I can't hink of his job?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 08:24 PM (zELMe)

324 two m249 based fire teams, NCO, coms guy, guy #9 that I can't hink of his job?

Beer runner.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 27, 2014 08:25 PM (wSrLR)

325 144 I have a question. Has anyone here ever taken a sleep study that did NOT result in a CPAP?

It happened to me.

Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at January 27, 2014 08:26 PM (U0t2o)

326 **passes Alton a spare key**

Morons help Morons out of the barrel.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 27, 2014 08:27 PM (4Mv1T)

327 24 lb. windfall apples, mixed varieties* 3-6 lb. granulated sugar 1 gallon water 1 tsp. pectic enzyme Champaigne wine yeast and nutrient Chop the apples into small pieces, put into primary fermentation vessel, add the pectic enzyme and water and cover the mixture. The water will not cover the apples, so stir several times a day to bring bottom apples to the top. After 24 hours, add the yeast and nutrient. Keep covered (a bath towel held fast with a large rubber band works well if the primary fermentation vessel doesn't have a lid) and in a warm place for 7-10 days. When the vigorous fermentation of the pulp subsides, strain the juice from the pulp and set aside, then press the juice from the pulp and add to the set-aside liquor. Measure and add 3 lb. sugar per gallon of liquor. Put into carboy or gallon secondary fermentation vessel and fit with airlock. Rack when clear, allow another 60 days, then rack again and bottle. Allow six months before tasting, one year for best results. [Adapted from C.J.J. Berry's First Steps in Winemaking] For this and all apple wine recipes, unless varieties are specified, the more acid and sour varieties are preferred and the sweeter eating varieties are to be avoided. Winesap, McIntosh, Jonathans, and crab apples are best. Delicious apples should be avoided.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 27, 2014 08:27 PM (Bps3R)

328 or if they relax enough for the structure of your neck to overwhelm them (OSA is highly correlated with a dress-shirt neck size of >16, including both Pillsbury doughboys such as myself or NFL linebackers).>>

This may answer the question of why it is more of a problem now (or a craze). I know if I lost weight I probably wouldn't need the CPAP. And I look at pictures from before 1950 and everyone appears to be skinnier on average.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 08:28 PM (TI3xG)

329 yay, it's -9Â° 'round these parts OK, I'm out tomorrow night, mi amigoes

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 27, 2014 08:29 PM (JMmQ9)

330 Wrong recipe. This is the one I use APPLE WINE (2) [Medium bodied] 12 lb. windfall apples, mixed varieties 3 lb granulated sugar 1 gallon water 1 tsp. pectic enzyme Champaigne wine yeast and nutrient Quarter the apples and run them through a mincer or mash with a 2 x 6 in a bucket. No seeds! Bring pulp to simmer in 1 gallon water, holding simmer for 15 minutes. Strain juice onto the sugar in primary fermentation vessel, stirring well to dissolve, then reintroduce the strained pulp and, when cool, the pectic enzyme, stirring well. Cover, set in a warm place for 24 hours, then add yeast and nutrient, cover, and set in a warm place for four days, stirring twice daily. Strain pulp and pour liquor into secondary fermentation vessel and fit with airlock. Rack when clear and fermentation has ceased. Rack again in 30 days and again in another 30 days, then bottle. Allow one year to age.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 27, 2014 08:30 PM (Bps3R)

331 Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 12:24 AM (zELMe)

Squad leader (NCO)

Two Fire Teams, each has Fire Team Leader, Grenadier (carries the M203), Automatic Riflemen (SAW), Rifleman...or four men per fire team.

One unlucky schmoe gets to tote the radio in addition to the rest of his crap.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 08:30 PM (CWquH)

332

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 28, 2014 12:29 AM (JMmQ9)

pussy, -35 with 50mph winds

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 08:31 PM (bStrg)

333 Damnit, Alton. You're one of The Popular Kids.

As much as we hate to see you in The Barrell, we also enjoy it.

Here's what's awesome, on your behalf:

#1. Others have taken up the mantle of closing html breaks.

#2. You're One of the Cool Kids.

#3. Other Platinum Level Members have taken to adding "closed-tags" to their "Name".

#4. Neidermeyer's Dead Horse closes tags as a habit. She's got vision and Moxy.

-Your time in The Barrell is going to be messy, smelly and awkward. That's the point.

-The Self-Proclaimed Voice of Truth and Reason,
...Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 08:31 PM (lq3Ak)

334 307 ...a regiment must be bigger than that....but how much bigger?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:09 AM (T1005)
I think estimates of NVA regiment strength was in the 1000-1200 neighborhood.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 28, 2014 12:15 AM (CWquH)

So they kept throwing themselves at 32 men, time and time again, until nearly half of their force was killed???? Ouch. "....reflected great credit upon himself, and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the U.S. Naval Service" indeed.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 08:33 PM (T1005)

335 Read the logic on Wendy Davis here. And Cilliza is one of the better political reporters the MSM has. If Texas is going Democrat because of Hispanics, where is the Hispanic candidate for governor? I mean the one who is NOT a Republican? I mean if a dem can win in 2018 because of hispanic votes, wouldn't it be Julian Castro from San Antonio? Of course he has an anti Texas pinko mom and even a lefty by San Antonio standards. But he'd get a lot more votes than Ms Davis. Someday there will be a Hispanic mayor of Houston or Austin who is a democrat and they will be a viable Dem candidate. But they probably won't even be the first hispanic governor of Texas. That will probably be a Republican, especially since in Texas Hispanics vote Republican at almost the same rate as anglos if you account for income.

Posted by: Roy at January 27, 2014 08:33 PM (/edXx)

336
what do each of the nine do
?

two m249 based fire teams, NCO, coms guy, guy #9 that I can't hink of his job?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 12:24 AM (zELMe)

Usually you have a Squad Leader, Team leader, 2x machine gunners, 2x assistant machine gunners, and riflemen.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2014 08:34 PM (lr3d7)

337 Posted by: Country Singer at January 28, 2014 12:30 AM (CWquH) thanks I was thinking a fire team was 3, forgot the team leader to make 4 nco(rank? E4?) m249 guy m203 guy rifle guy, rifle guy=ammo carrier guy?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 08:34 PM (zELMe)

338 Note:

Obama's Cabinet is pretty "white".

...and they have no eyebrows.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 08:35 PM (lq3Ak)

339 Would the ultimate run-throw quarterback be Walter Payton Manning ?

Posted by: seamrog at January 27, 2014 08:36 PM (pjvkI)

340 One unlucky schmoe gets to tote the radio in addition to the rest of his crap.>>

I remember the images of the radio guy having a full backpack sized set of radio gear to carry in WWII and didn't seem much smaller in Vietnam. My question is how much have the reduced the radio guys load?

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 08:36 PM (TI3xG)

341 I should note that there are variations on the theme, based on the formation; for instance, while still a 9-man "rifleman" squad, in a Stryker Brigade one of the guys totes an anti-tank missile, and another is considered the Designated Marksman.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 08:37 PM (CWquH)

342
rifle guy, rifle guy=ammo carrier guy?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 12:34 AM (zELMe)

Generally the machine gunner has an assistant, and then everyone else carries a belt as well.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2014 08:38 PM (lr3d7)

343 Usually you have a Squad Leader, Team leader, 2x machine gunners, 2x assistant machine gunners, and riflemen. Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 28, 2014 12:34 AM (lr3d7) so the m203 guy =ammo guy?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 08:38 PM (zELMe)

344 Posted by: Roy at January 28, 2014 12:33 AM (/edXx)

Nuh-uh. Rethugs are racist. Mommy and daddy and teacher told me so.

Posted by: Your Average Lib at January 27, 2014 08:39 PM (FHNkr)

345 Chuck Schumer Wants Tracking Devices on Autistic Children Why can't this be part of a state run Medicaid deal? It's a real thing. Autistic children tend to get out and when they do, it seems like they are drawn to bodies of water too many times. It's just tragic and terrifying thing. Why not let those parents who CAN pay for private tracking devices and services (not going to get into making some kids wear them.) do so and give a voucher to ameliorate the costs to those who CAN'T? Even for the wealthiest of parents, wouldn't your State or County know more about you and your kid's situation than D.C.? They would HAVE to, wouldn't they? Either way, I think (if I HAD to) I would rather deal with a person face-to-face, at the County level at least than get on some 1-800 line to talk to someone in D.C. or Pueblo, CO or, Alberta Canada or wherever the fuck they delivered a no-bid contract to.

Posted by: Deety at January 27, 2014 08:39 PM (daK3O)

346 Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 12:34 AM (zELMe)

Squad Leader is usually a Staff Sergeant (E-6), sometimes a Sergeant (E-5)
Team Leaders are usually Sergeant (E-5), but not uncommon to see a Corporal (E-4) in that role, as opposed to a Specialist (E-4).
The rest of the guys will be E-1 through E-4.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 08:39 PM (CWquH)

347 and another is considered the Designated Marksman. Posted by: Country Singer at January 28, 2014 12:37 AM (CWquH) what are they shooting? just a tricked out AR with a 3-9 type scope? or similar?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 08:40 PM (zELMe)

348 So you're saying that this blog hates autistic kids.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 27, 2014 08:40 PM (IN7k+)

349 Country Singer, where in the Atl do you call home? I'm out in the extreme edge of Cobb County myself.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 27, 2014 08:40 PM (ojnk6)

350
so the m203 guy =ammo guy?
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 12:38 AM (zELMe)

It's unlikely that he'd be the AG. The 203 IIRC, is more likely to be carried by the team leader or a designated grenadier. The AG would be too focused on assisting the machine gunner to use the 203 effectively.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2014 08:41 PM (lr3d7)

351 so the m203 guy =ammo guy?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 12:38 AM (zELMe)

M203: http://tinyurl.com/l572fpy

M-16/M-4 with a grenade launcher attached.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 08:41 PM (CWquH)

352 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 12:40 AM (ojnk6)

I'm southeast of ATL, in Harris County. I work at Fort Benning in the Concept Development and Integration Directorate.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 08:42 PM (CWquH)

353 349 Country Singer, where in the Atl do you call home? I'm out in the extreme edge of Cobb County myself. ------ Hello friend. I'm in Paulding.

Posted by: Adam at January 27, 2014 08:42 PM (Aif/5)

354
just a tricked out AR with a 3-9 type scope? or similar?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 12:40 AM (zELMe)

M-14s mostly.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 27, 2014 08:42 PM (lr3d7)

355 The WWII Museum in New Orleans is getting a P-40E painted in the markings of Col. Robert Scott, CO of the successor 23rd Fighter Group.

http://news.yahoo.com/restored-fighter-plane-salutes-flying-tigers-094004731.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 27, 2014 08:43 PM (DIg/e)

356 M-14s mostly. Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 28, 2014 12:42 AM (lr3d7) So the DM is the guy who walks around with a rifle that does not match everyone elses? wouldn't that make the DM an obvious target? wouldn't you want a M110 or some type of AR platform so you 'blend' better?

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 08:45 PM (zELMe)

357 352 I hope the snow spares you. Crazy that the snow in worse South of town than North. 353 Adam, I live less than a mile from Paulding, near the Crossroads intersection in Dallas. Familiar to you?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 27, 2014 08:47 PM (ojnk6)

358 It's important to note the distinction between the rifle squad and the "Weapons Squad."

The Rifle Squad machine gunners will have M249 Squad Assault Weapons in 5.56, and no one designated as an assistant. In my time, I had to hump and change out my own SAW barrel, reload, etc.

The Weapons Squad will have M240B 7.62 machine guns, which will have a designated assistant gunner; i.e. the guy that humps a shit ton of ammo and the spare barrel.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 08:47 PM (CWquH)

359

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:33 AM

They could have, yeah. NVA Rgt's were huge, at full strength and the Btn's were double in size compared to basic standard. Though they often were understrength at about 50%, putting them back in the 300 or so range. So they could have had around the 1000 approx Rgt and got halved by kills.

Posted by: otho at January 27, 2014 08:47 PM (9gNQd)

360 Diversity technically means having as little in common as possible. Diversity ideally means having people from a wide variety of cultural and ethnic backgrounds. Diversity actually means having as few white people as possible.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 27, 2014 08:48 PM (ZPrif)

361 All little boys should wear tracking collars, for the children.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 27, 2014 08:49 PM (LAN8Y)

362 OK, so one last thing -- it says that two squads got separated, and he had no more than 11 guys remaining with him (which was probably a 3rd squad?)....so why didn't it say that his squad got separated? Is there a thing where the commanding officer never gets lost even if it's just him, or does this subtly imply that the other two squads got separated in different places? And, BTW, outnumbered 30-to-1 by hostiles and all-of-a-sudden realizing that 2/3 of your guys aren't where you thought they were, all the while knowing that you're the thin line protecting the backside of a retreating force -- that goes well beyond "having a bad day at the office."

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 08:49 PM (T1005)

363 i.e. the guy that humps a shit ton of ammo and the spare barrel. Posted by: Country Singer at January 28, 2014 12:47 AM (CWquH) thanks I was trying to get at this, ammo guy=the guy that humps a shit ton of ammo and the spare barrel so a designated AG

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 08:52 PM (zELMe)

364 Nuh-uh. Rethugs are racist. Mommy and daddy and teacher told me so. Posted by: Your Average Lib at January 28, 2014 12:39 AM (FHNkr) Both a mommy and a daddy? Denounce yourself for your heteronormative privilege you opprssor!

Posted by: Critical Gender Studies Major at January 27, 2014 08:52 PM (XvHmy)

365 so why didn't it say that his squad got separated?

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:49 AM (T1005)

I would surmise they are going on the logic that, because he was the Platoon Leader, all of the squads in the platoon were "his."

Not having seen any sand tables or graphics, I'm not sure, but it's likely that there was a temporary breach in their line in which the two groups got cut off from each other.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 08:53 PM (CWquH)

366 This thread, it be dead.

Posted by: logprof Murphy at January 27, 2014 08:57 PM (X3GkB)

367 http://bit.ly/1eu8XWg

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 08:58 PM (bStrg)

368 Diversity technically means having as little in common as possible.>>

Before the word was used. Diversity was about talents. And that worked, Irishmen were Cops, Italians did tile/cement work. Jews were Lawyers...

Not that those jobs were restricted to those ethnicities they just appeared to dominate them. So when skill sets were the diversity it worked in the melting pot.

When it became color with no skill set it fails.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 08:58 PM (TI3xG)

369 Is this thing still on?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 27, 2014 08:58 PM (ojnk6)

370 Posted by: Deety at January 28, 2014 12:39 AM (daK3O)

What we have to debate in this Country, is the very definition of "Needy and Indigent.

Having the "Richest Poverty Class" in all The World, we still define "The Poor" differently here. Because there is a difference.

The Federal Government should have nothing to do with either.

Should your State government run ads?

-Only if the returns are greater than without. By a margin of 300%. Period. Your Criteria May Vary.

..."State Run Medicaid" is a fallacy. The Federal Government "bribes" the State with its own money. It just happened again. ENORMOUSLY. With "Obamacare".

When States have the power over "The State", it is a victory. When States are "bribed" with their own money?

...it is a scam.

I say "NO" to any "Big-'S' State-Run definition of "Special Interest" groups.

Localities, Metropolitan or Parochial? They've got proximity on their side.

Allow local connections to pervade. Should they not? ...get involved.

If not for the children? ...for the sake of your neighbors.

...or not.

I'm a little stoned.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 08:59 PM (lq3Ak)

371 ...I forgot "The Middle Class".

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 09:00 PM (lq3Ak)

372 "Power and the Glory" by Saxon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOcRut2UM9g

Posted by: The Hat of Power at January 27, 2014 09:00 PM (XvHmy)

373 351 so the m203 guy =ammo guy? Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 12:38 AM (zELMe) M203: http://tinyurl.com/l572fpy M-16/M-4 with a grenade launcher attached. - -- - In Vietnam they used the M-79, which was just a grenade launcher.

Posted by: fluffy at January 27, 2014 09:01 PM (Ua6T/)

374 Someone correct me if this is incorrect, but the US combat units use the rule of 3's generally. a combat commander only has 3 direct reports max so a fire team leader has 3 DR's Platoon leader =3DR's Company, Batalion, Regiment, etc each 3DR's

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 09:01 PM (zELMe)

375 I need some ideas for my State of the Union Bingo Cards. Need Phrases the JEF would likely say.

Posted by: Shonuff at January 27, 2014 09:02 PM (yXRXV)

376 "After returning from Vietnam, McGinty served another tour on Parris Island as a drill instructor".

Wait, what???

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:03 PM (T1005)

377 n Vietnam they used the M-79, which was just a grenade launcher. Posted by: fluffy at January 28, 2014 01:01 AM (Ua6T/) da' blooper! or bloop gun something like that

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 09:03 PM (zELMe)

378 "I need some ideas for my State of the Union Bingo Cards. Need Phrases the JEF would likely say."

Posted by: Shonuff at January 28, 2014 01:02 AM (yXRXV)

"Equality" should be the "FREE" center-space.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 09:05 PM (lq3Ak)

379 375 I need some ideas for my State of the Union Bingo Cards. Need Phrases the JEF would likely say. Posted by: Shonuff at January 28, 2014 01:02 AM (yXRXV) --That's too easy. Invest Opportunity Greatness Fair . . .

Posted by: logprof huhÉ at January 27, 2014 09:06 PM (X3GkB)

380 Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 01:01 AM (zELMe)

That's generally how it works out. As always, there are exceptions. For instance, you usually see more than 3 platoons in a Company.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 09:07 PM (CWquH)

381 OK y'all, I'm out for the night. Everyone stay warm.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 27, 2014 09:09 PM (CWquH)

382 379 375 I need some ideas for my State of the Union Bingo Cards. Need Phrases the JEF would likely say.
Posted by: Shonuff at January 28, 2014 01:02 AM (yXRXV)

--That's too easy.

Invest

Opportunity

Greatness

Fair
. . .

Posted by: logprof huhÃ‰ at January 28, 2014 01:06 AM (X3GkB)

You forgot the obvious:

my administration

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:11 PM (T1005)

383 Good grief I'm sick of the [CTRL][SHIFT] keyboard crap.

Posted by: logprof, 'Nole Fan at January 27, 2014 09:11 PM (X3GkB)

384 I need some ideas for my State of the Union Bingo Cards.>>

Poised.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 27, 2014 09:12 PM (TI3xG)

385 I'd put:

"upward, momentum, progress, equal, mobility, Democracy, self, us, we, must, always, opportunity, ever, most, least, rich, poor, United States and unequal"...

...on the cards.

Perhaps the "Free"-space should be the word "the".

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 09:12 PM (lq3Ak)

386 384 I need some ideas for my State of the Union Bingo Cards.>>

Poised.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 28, 2014 01:12 AM (TI3xG)

previous administration

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:13 PM (T1005)

387 386 384
I need some ideas for my State of the Union Bingo Cards.>>

Poised.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 28, 2014 01:12 AM (TI3xG)

previous administration

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 01:13 AM (T1005)

historic

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:14 PM (T1005)

388 Perfect.

Posted by: Shonuff at January 27, 2014 09:14 PM (yXRXV)

389 thanks Country Singer and Colorado Alex for clarifying

Posted by: One Ping Only at January 27, 2014 09:15 PM (zELMe)

390 hummana

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 27, 2014 09:15 PM (V4CBV)

391 The free space should be "I" or "me" or "my", because we all know these will be the most common words besides "a" and "the" in the speech.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:15 PM (T1005)

392 Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 01:15 AM (T1005)

How progressively "Wheel of Fortune" of you!

Posted by: R-S-T-N-L-E ...sometimes Y at January 27, 2014 09:17 PM (lq3Ak)

393 squad has 9, four squads to a platoon, four platoons to a company, four companies to a battalion, three battalions to a regiment

or, if you're Roman, a century has 100...

Posted by: Harald the BallCrusher at January 27, 2014 09:18 PM (omBWL)

394 How do you like your eggs, Danny Thomas?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 27, 2014 09:19 PM (V4CBV)

395 Bingo Card so far http://tinyurl.com/m4ez6tf

Posted by: Shonuff at January 27, 2014 09:20 PM (yXRXV)

396 "or, if you're Roman, a century has 100..."

Posted by: Harald the BallCrusher at January 28, 2014 01:18 AM (omBWL)

Which is why "The Turn of the Century", if you were being honest wasn't until 2001.

I partied, however, like it was 1999.

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 09:20 PM (lq3Ak)

397 -*Time Out*

BBL

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 09:24 PM (lq3Ak)

398 I need some ideas for my State of the Union Bingo Cards.>>

Poised.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 28, 2014 01:12 AM (TI3xG)

Uhhh....UmmmUhhh....Umm

Posted by: The Jackhole at January 27, 2014 09:27 PM (uOV6o)

399 Yes, thanks to those who cleared up my understanding of the MOH citation. It sounded vaguely badass, but I can normally grok more of what was going on. 32 guys leaving 500 dead while covering the retreat of a larger group is serious, doing so with an enemy so determined that they'd suffer 50% casualties in their attempt to overrun your position.....whoof.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:28 PM (T1005)

400 so many buttplugs http://bit.ly/1f5Tr6e

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 09:32 PM (bStrg)

401 395 Bingo Card so far http://tinyurl.com/m4ez6tf

Posted by: Shonuff at January 28, 2014 01:20 AM (yXRXV)

The fifth one is a "gimme" -- I, me, uh, upward, and a free space. I'm thinking that one'll fill in within 5 minutes of his start (which will, as usual, be late).

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:33 PM (T1005)

402 so many buttplugs http://bit.ly/1f5Tr6e Posted by: The Dude at January 28, 2014 01:32 AM (bStrg) Hey! That's not nice!

Posted by: Congress at January 27, 2014 09:34 PM (XvHmy)

403 Yes, thanks to those who cleared up my understanding of the MOH citation. It sounded vaguely badass, but I can normally grok more of what was going on. 32 guys leaving 500 dead while covering the retreat of a larger group is serious, doing so with an enemy so determined that they'd suffer 50% casualties in their attempt to overrun your position.....whoof.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 01:28 AM (T1005)

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Roland at January 27, 2014 09:47 PM (lr3d7)

404 I am ashamed to say that I never finished the story of Roland, which I had checked out of the library to read when I was in 5th grade, because my dog chewed the crap out of the book.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 09:54 PM (T1005)

405 It was probably "The Song of Roland" by Scott-Moncrieff.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 10:03 PM (T1005)

406 I'll sleep tonight.

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at January 27, 2014 10:13 PM (lq3Ak)

407 That "Amy Glass" who was linked in the Morning News Dump today... I have a terrible confession. I think I dated her once. Boy, did I ever dodge a bullet when she gave me the air!

Posted by: Chris Christie at January 27, 2014 10:13 PM (/96QU)

408 Begone, backstabber sock!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 27, 2014 10:14 PM (/96QU)

409 And everyone's gone. Ah, well.

At about the same time, I read something about "El Cid", but I don't remember it. Looking at the Wikipedia article -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantar_de_Mio_Cid -- I'm surprised to note how much knowing some Spanish helps understand things. Since this was probably 5th-6th grade, I wouldn't have had a word of Spanish at the time -- I first took German in 6th grade ("German exposure") in Long Beach, and took it as an actual elective in 7th in Davis. I first started taking Spanish in Newhall in, I think, 8th grade.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 10:18 PM (T1005)

410 Wow, this place rolls up early. Any other insomniacs hanging?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 27, 2014 10:22 PM (ojnk6)

411 I'm here.

Posted by: logprof: 'Noles! at January 27, 2014 10:26 PM (X3GkB)

412 So you're saying that this blog hates autistic kids. Yep. Pretty Much! If you ask some of the cob-loggers and commentators associated with this site they will tell you that the correct, "conservative" response to Autism is to shout, "Stop acting so...WEIRD!" Uhm, no. Not really. Not at all! I was just kidding about something that can be very frustrating and we are not allowed to kid about since the TV show St. Elsewhere in the 80's or something. I was a kid in the 80's but that plot-line still kind of rankles for me. What if the brilliant Dr.Westfall's kid w/ the fucking snow-globe(Tommy?) WASN'T "special" &autistic but kind of a run of the mill, moron? Since I was an 8 yr. old kid, I thought that "rich" people liked to describe their kids w/ challenges as autistic because they thought it sounded something like artistic. Stories about "Blind Tom" Wiggins and the movie "Rain Man" didn't do much to dissuade me later on. (Although, seeing Scientology Cult Member, Tom Cruise just lose his shit trying to fly w/ Dustin Hoffman's character is, in retrospect, kind of delicious. Fuck. Even Paul Newman didn't bow down to Lee Strassman at the Actors Studio, when it was a thing!) I KNOW about 1/8th of what it takes to fight for a disabled child as an Aunt but I have to ask... "Do we really need them all going to Harvard or Princeton or Yale to consider them a success?" How about cart collection at a local grocery store or front-end for Wendy's or Carl's Jr. Hamburger joint(they seem to do a LOT to employ the "mentally challenged", so far as I know)? This is NOT "the soft bigotry of low expectations". I don't think. We all can't be Temple Grandin. It is, rather, a higher bar that we set for ourselves and our communities and our local employers. I dunno. What do I know?

Posted by: Deety at January 27, 2014 10:29 PM (daK3O)

413 *wanders in, flips the light switches a few times*

Posted by: Piercello at January 27, 2014 10:30 PM (jJ97i)

414 Chaos may reign at Swanson Primary School with children climbing trees, riding skateboards and playing bullrush during playtime, but surprisingly the students don't cause bedlam, the principal says.

The school is actually seeing a drop in bullying, serious injuries and vandalism, while concentration levels in class are increasing.

Principal Bruce McLachlan rid the school of playtime rules as part of a successful university experiment.

"We want kids to be safe and to look after them, but we end up wrapping them in cotton wool when in fact they should be able to fall over."

Letting children test themselves on a scooter during playtime could make them more aware of the dangers when getting behind the wheel of a car in high school, he said.

"When you look at our playground it looks chaotic. From an adult's perspective, it looks like kids might get hurt, but they don't."

Posted by: Christa McAuliffe at January 27, 2014 10:33 PM (e8kgV)

415 #412: Did you know that Scott Walker dropped out of Marquette University?

Also, my fellow Colorado morons might like to know this... he was born in Colorado Springs.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 27, 2014 10:37 PM (/96QU)

416 3 hr time difference doesn't sound like a whole but when internal clock is set at eastcoast time and it's1140 pm here?Fuuuuuck. Im hurtin' bro.

Posted by: fastfreefall at January 27, 2014 10:43 PM (J0LxY)

417 412 So you're saying that this blog hates autistic kids.

Yep. Pretty Much!

If you ask some of the cob-loggers and commentators associated with this site they will tell you that the correct, "conservative" response to Autism is to shout, "Stop acting so...WEIRD!"

Uhm, no.

Not really.

Not at all!

I was just kidding about something that can be very frustrating and we are not allowed to kid about since the TV show St. Elsewhere in the 80's or something.

I was a kid in the 80's but that plot-line still kind of rankles for me.

What if the brilliant Dr.Westfall's kid w/ the fucking snow-globe(Tommy?) WASN'T "special" &autistic but kind of a run of the mill, moron?

Since I was an 8 yr. old kid, I thought that "rich" people liked to describe their kids w/ challenges as autistic because they thought it sounded something like artistic.

Stories about "Blind Tom" Wiggins and the movie "Rain Man" didn't do much to dissuade me later on.

(Although, seeing Scientology Cult Member, Tom Cruise just lose his shit trying to fly w/ Dustin Hoffman's character is, in retrospect, kind of delicious. Fuck. Even Paul Newman didn't bow down to Lee Strassman at the Actors Studio, when it was a thing!)

I KNOW about 1/8th of what it takes to fight for a disabled child as an Aunt but I have to ask...

"Do we really need them all going to Harvard or Princeton or Yale to consider them a success?"

How about cart collection at a local grocery store or front-end for Wendy's or Carl's Jr. Hamburger joint(they seem to do a LOT to employ the "mentally challenged", so far as I know)?

This is NOT "the soft bigotry of low expectations". I don't think. We all can't be Temple Grandin.

It is, rather, a higher bar that we set for ourselves and our communities and our local employers.

I dunno.

What do I know?

Posted by: Deety at January 28, 2014 02:29 AM (daK3O)

All the stuff about "everyone should go to college" and "nobody should have to work with their hands" is total crap. Where is room for the artisan? Where is there room for those who do things or build things? How can you effectively imagine a task or plan for its successful completion if you have no ideas of the challenges involved, how long it takes, or what its accomplishment takes from you? Everyone should work "menial" positions, because then they'll respect it.....and if they progress to more intellectual pursuits, they won't leave pain points or time wasters in the work plans and designs they will later create.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 10:46 PM (T1005)

418 What we have to debate in this Country, is the very definition of "Needy and Indigent". I am currently having 1/3 of my rent paid (after being evicted)in a complete shit-hole apartment by the county. I decided that I would rather be "needy" for a while, than be indigent at all costs. It was an either/or situation. Pride would have dictated that I neither seek nor accept help for some of my ruinous employment choices. But it's NOT just all about me and my wants and desires. I would rather be HOMELESS than work for another fucking call center, truth be told but that isn't the only option. The other option is making my 78 yr. old Dad, fucking homeless, which, I WILL NOT DO.

Posted by: Deety at January 27, 2014 10:49 PM (daK3O)

419 Did you see this?! Wendy Davis once donated to George W Bush! She listed herself as a "home-maker" to boot... how feminist of her, lol. Oh, the explodey-heads of the Left when they hear this:

http://tinyurl.com/mpxymv7

She was never going to win anyway Â– the voters of TX would have spanked her at the polls Â– but to see such an implosion of a death-monger/baby killer like Davis is sweet, sweet Schadenfreude. Delicious!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 27, 2014 10:53 PM (KL49F)

420 Die, Polar Vortex! Die!!

Posted by: dissent555 at January 27, 2014 10:54 PM (yR6A1)

421 #419: I know she first ran for public office as a Republican. I'm glad she left the party, seeing as how abortion is so important to her.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 27, 2014 10:54 PM (/96QU)

422 #418: I worked in a call center once. I don't blame you one bit for turning your nose up at that sort of job.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 27, 2014 10:57 PM (/96QU)

423 422 #418: I worked in a call center once. I don't blame you one bit for turning your nose up at that sort of job.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 28, 2014 02:57 AM (/96QU)

The BH manages a tech support department. It ain't all that wonderful running one.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:03 PM (T1005)

424 Oh, and that illegal alien lawyer? Just you wait; in a few years, illegal aliens will be running for public office. Why wouldn't they?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 27, 2014 11:03 PM (/96QU)

425 It was probably "The Song of Roland" by Scott-Moncrieff. Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 02:03 AM (T1005) Alternatively: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvTv-I2Y390

Posted by: Zombie Warren Zevon at January 27, 2014 11:04 PM (AymDN)

426 officium meum faciam

Posted by: T.O.T.U.S. SCELERIS at January 27, 2014 11:09 PM (R6JT1)

427 Letting children test themselves on a scooter during playtime could make them more aware of the dangers when getting behind the wheel of a car in high school, he said. Yeah, and letting the "little kids" test themselves against the 4th & 5th graders was instructive as well. Boys and Girls. I remember achieving the pinnacle of success in 5th grade (we were so far out, on the playground, the recess monitors couldn't even SEE us, if we all wanted to ditch school and go ice-skating!) Some of us (boys) wished they could ride on the swings without having to be nasty to little kids. Some of us (girls) felt the same way, except the faction that insisted that there would be something terribly wrong if the boys were NOT nasty to little kids before going on the swings. I dunno. I probably should have spoke up more for the littler kids at that point but I wanted to swing, too! Well, fudge! "If we ain't goin' ice-skating, then what the heck do I care what y'all do on this desolate prairie, windblown, pathetic excuse for a hill on this "playground"? Let's just all go into Math Class, already!" *spits*

Posted by: Deety at January 27, 2014 11:17 PM (daK3O)

428 #423: I believe it. Where I worked, metrics were everything. Screw actually helping the customers. I was constantly getting calls from people who'd already called in multiple times and never gotten any sort of actual help with their issues. The company was in the process of a merger when I worked there, so numbers were especially crucial right then. I wound up getting fired because I, you know, actually saw serving the customers as my job, no matter how long it took to resolve their problems.

I can't imagine that the people running that call center had it any easier.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 27, 2014 11:20 PM (/96QU)

429 http://bit.ly/1euna5P will probably use this for the gaming thread

Posted by: The Dude at January 27, 2014 11:38 PM (bStrg)

430 I found a good streaming site that's in Montenegro. What do you call the people of Montenegro?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2014 11:40 PM (LAN8Y)

431 One time, my supervisor happened to be listening in when I took a call from a customer who'd been pushed away by another rep with assurances that her problem would be fixed (it wasn't, of course). She had several phones, all of them programmed with out-of-her area-code numbers. It took me an hour and a half to fix her problem and get her phones working, at a time when I was supposed to be taking 7 calls per hour.

My supervisor made a big show of coming to me after the call, while I was doing all the behind-the scenes work, to ask me who had dealt with that customer previously, so he could see to it that that employee was disciplined for his negligence. When I told him it was the member of our team who'd just been named Employee of the Month because he was taking 13 calls per hour, it was like I'd just informed him that there's no Santa Claus. "You're kidding!", he protested. Nope, there's his user ID, right there. I know that asshole didn't do shit with the information.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 27, 2014 11:42 PM (/96QU)

432 430 I found a good streaming site that's in Montenegro. What do you call the people of Montenegro? Posted by: Boss Moss at January 28, 2014 03:40 AM (LAN8Y) --Montenegrins

Posted by: logprof: at January 27, 2014 11:46 PM (X3GkB)

433 It has HBO and Showtime shows posted same day as release. One thirty second commercial gets you 30 minutes or an hour show.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2014 11:49 PM (LAN8Y)

434 All the stuff about "everyone should go to college" and "nobody should have to work with their hands" is total crap. Where is room for the artisan? Where is there room for those who do things or build things? I get your point but I'd go you one further, if you will indulge me... Some people can neither successfully go to college nor become a competent artisan / tradesman. (I'm thinking of the Mentally Handicapped right now but I'll use myself as an example.) I have known since my time as a Dive-Master in Honduras in the late '90's that getting HVAC or Plumbing training would be AWESOME, no matter which country one worked in. I also KNOW that I HATE (unto vomiting)climbing more than the 3rd rung on ANY ladder.(I don't EVAR vomit, I just always want to. I sing (weedy, whistle) Bach or Beethoven's Ode to Joy to get up or back down. I find squirming around under foundations/trailers disgusting and webby and scary because of the vermin and that I SUCK as a plumber because I only ever weighed 115 lbs. and don't have the torque to fix things from underneath.

Posted by: Deety at January 27, 2014 11:52 PM (daK3O)

435 Much like with the "Polar vortex," this will be blamed on "Global Warming": No New Continent Â‘HottestÂ’ Temperature Records Since 1978 http://tinyurl.com/m6nkvmg

Posted by: The Anthropogenic Hat at January 27, 2014 11:54 PM (AymDN)

436 428 #423: I believe it. Where I worked, metrics were everything. Screw
actually helping the customers. I was constantly getting calls from
people who'd already called in multiple times and never gotten any sort
of actual help with their issues. The company was in the process of a
merger when I worked there, so numbers were especially crucial right then. I wound up getting
fired because I, you know, actually saw serving the customers as
my job, no matter how long it took to resolve their problems.

I can't imagine that the people running that call center had it any easier.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at January 28, 2014 03:20 AM (/96QU)

Actually, metrics are the frail reed you try to cling to.....'cause the real problem in tech support is that there shouldn't need to be any. If the development team hadn't thrown a pattern of depth-charges into your cruising space, you'd merely be dealing with the technically inept -- and if the tech writers had performed adequately, most of your job would be referring to page numbers. Which would leave you with your occasionally semi-mutinous, effort-shirking staff....some of whom have actual, real problems that you really want to try to get them through.

Between the BH and I, we've had to deal with "our people": downloading porn onto company computers, wearing the same clothes for enough days to have others complain about the smell, be actually homeless and leave two kids in care of a 17-year-old daughter in a car all day, watching a YouTube video "documentary" of the interior of a vagina during working hours, run around hugging random people (who sometimes objected), get mail and process it, while stashing un-opened mail in an overhead until it was full, leave seven-figure checks to the company on a roach-coach counter because FedEx showed up right before lunch.....and it just goes on-and-on.

On the flip side, I've got to talk about one of the things that made me so happy.....we had a woman who could do rework solder -- pull surface mount parts and replace them -- like nobody's business. She could replace microcontrollers with eighteen-gazillion leads and they'd work afterwards. And she went and cashed her paycheck every two weeks because she didn't have a checking account -- with all the hassle and expense that implies. And we kept telling her she should get a regular checking account to simplify things.

So she did.....with Bank of America, the biggest dickwads in banking. And she deposited her first check, and they put a huge hold on it when she needed to pay rent. So she came back and, very upset, explained her problem to me (in Spanish). So I called the branch manager, who gave me a bunch of crap (in English).

So I called our bank.....which resulted in the Chief Compliance Officer of our bank calling the B of A branch manager and laying out, in exquisite detail, why he was an idiot, in violation of numerous rules, and rapidly heading toward "unemployable by any bank."

Amazingly enough, her temporary problem wafted away and she was treated like a queen afterwards......and I'm very proud of that, because being one of "my people" means that I take care of what I can.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 27, 2014 11:55 PM (T1005)

437 We need to start up all those coal burning power plants before we trigger another ice age.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 27, 2014 11:56 PM (LAN8Y)

438 434 All the stuff about "everyone should go to college" and "nobody should have to work with their hands" is total crap. Where is room for the artisan? Where is there room for those who do things or build things?

I get your point but I'd go you one further, if you will indulge me...

Some people can neither successfully go to college nor become a competent artisan / tradesman.

(I'm thinking of the Mentally Handicapped right now but I'll use myself as an example.)

I have known since my time as a Dive-Master in Honduras in the late '90's that getting HVAC or Plumbing training would be AWESOME, no matter which country one worked in.

I also KNOW that I HATE (unto vomiting)climbing more than the 3rd rung on ANY ladder.(I don't EVAR vomit, I just always want to. I sing (weedy, whistle) Bach or Beethoven's Ode to Joy to get up or back down. I find squirming around under foundations/trailers disgusting and webby and scary because of the vermin and that I SUCK as a plumber because I only ever weighed 115 lbs. and don't have the torque to fix things from underneath.

Posted by: Deety at January 28, 2014 03:52 AM (daK3O)

I have a little bit of experience with this, in that my uncle had a plumbing company, my cousin has a plumbing company, and I've done a bunch of plumbing.....you're thinking of plumbing repair.....if you do plumbing on new construction, there's no rat feces. If you're interested, see if you can get hooked up with a construction company.

In addition, see how you deal with HVAC with scissor-lifts and/or mobile scaffolds. When we remodeled my kitchen, there was a scaffold parked in the middle for weeks, and it was like getting into a bunk-bed to get on it.....but once you did, you could work on the skylights and lighting and never feel a twinge. You had a floor and everything.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:04 AM (T1005)

439 Night all. Here is "Never Say Die" from Black Sabbath: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICI0jX68YsE

Posted by: The Undying Hat at January 28, 2014 12:14 AM (AymDN)

440 I worked in a call center once. I don't blame you one bit for turning your nose up at that sort of job. It's not so much that I'm turning my nose up at it. NOT AT ALL. It's good work, that I'm happy to get... Full-Time, pays more than min. wage, Direct Deposit... I just know that I'm going to HATE it. I'll be good at it but I'll hate every fucking minute of it once I get it down. It's just so not being "snooty" about it! (I ain't proud!) I know that I just, DO NOT LIKE working at a call center. Sorry. I'll take the full-time call center job over the part-time Sears one, any day. I hope I can keep the two.

Posted by: Deety at January 28, 2014 12:14 AM (daK3O)

441 It seems that I have awakened early once again; this time I suspect it is in anticipation of another SOTU address that I will be doing my very level best to avoid like a ship full of cannibal rats that all look just like Henry Waxman.

Talk about a waking nightmare. Or is it waking to a talking nightmare? Meh, they seem equivalent somehow.

Deety, the daughter at one time wanted to be an auto mechanic. How to explain to a 90# girl that this wasn't a great idea? With the truth. You need a certain level of strength to do the job competently.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 12:19 AM (wNF3N)

442 I have a little bit of experience with this, in that my uncle had a plumbing company, my cousin has a plumbing company, and I've done a bunch of plumbing.....you're thinking of plumbing repair.....if you do plumbing on new construction, there's no rat feces. If you're interested, see if you can get hooked up with a construction company.

In addition, see how you deal with HVAC with scissor-lifts and/or mobile scaffolds. When we remodeled my kitchen, there was a scaffold parked in the middle for weeks, and it was like getting into a bunk-bed to get on it.....but once you did, you could work on the skylights and lighting and never feel a twinge. You had a floor and everything.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 04:04 AM (T1005)

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controls contracting --- the people who test & balance HVAC systems and hook up all the gizmos that operate the VAV (variable air volume) units, etc.

these are high skill jobs that do not require great physical strength. low volt wiring and air driven gizmos and panels that make commercial building systems do what they are supposed to do.

Honeywell, Johnson Controls, etc.

Posted by: jc at January 28, 2014 12:20 AM (PlzOe)

443 Supposedly Wendy Davis is a "hero" for taking "abuse." I'm sure the libs agree that Sarah Palin must be a mega-hero, then.

Posted by: Gem at January 28, 2014 12:36 AM (zw+pb)

444 Where I worked, metrics were everything. Screw actually helping the customers. I was constantly getting calls from people who'd already called in multiple times and never gotten any sort of actual help with their issues. The company was in the process of a merger when I worked there, so numbers were especially crucial right then. I wound up getting fired because I, you know, actually saw serving the customers as my job, no matter how long it took to resolve their problems. You just can NEVER know, sometimes. I worked for an outfit once, who had a client (AT&T) that said that any customer that called back more than 3 times disputing International Long Distance charges from places like Djibouti, on their dial-up AOL accounts (that's how old I am!)should be basically treated like a lunatic. I also had to come into work 25 min. before my official shift, to physically fight people for chairs. Convergys Thank God, I had my Liberal Arts degree to get back to!

Posted by: Deety at January 28, 2014 12:38 AM (daK3O)

445 My son has Asperger' s and while there was a span of years where he was a runner (would suddenly dash into the street without warning), he was never an escape artist. I can't really imagine how scary that must be for parents. But there is no way I'd put my kid on some national registry. Once it's been implemented, though, if you opt out you will be considered a "bad" parent.

Posted by: Gem at January 28, 2014 12:43 AM (zw+pb)

446 445 My son has Asperger' s and while there was a span of years where he was a runner (would suddenly dash into the street without warning), he was never an escape artist. I can't really imagine how scary that must be for parents. But there is no way I'd put my kid on some national registry. Once it's been implemented, though, if you opt out you will be considered a "bad" parent.

Posted by: Gem at January 28, 2014 04:43 AM (zw+pb)

I can just imagine how the kid's employment prospects could be impacted...

Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 12:51 AM (T1005)

447 speaking of plumbing,... anyone know anything about plumbing in japan? I am renovating a house and adding toilet, vanity, and kitchenette to the second story. There are no vents, and as far as I can tell japan doesn't normally use them. Any knowledge out there fellow morons?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 28, 2014 12:54 AM (LWu6U)

448 In addition, see how you deal with HVAC with scissor-lifts and/or mobile scaffolds. When we remodeled my kitchen, there was a scaffold parked in the middle for weeks, and it was like getting into a bunk-bed to get on it.... Yeah,I'm just kinda weird, I suppose. Scissor-lifts, Okay! Ladders... I don't care if I set them up and the spotters. I just HATE it so much that I shake with fear all the time I feel like I'm "too high" on a long ladder. I'd probably be too cautious and therefore slow for an average construction crew but yeah, I can work w/ scaffolds. Sometimes I feel kind of safer if I just set one ladder and run up and down it myself.

Posted by: Deety at January 28, 2014 12:58 AM (daK3O)

449 That dirty Stalinist, Pete Seeger, kicked the bucket.

Posted by: Judge Pug at January 28, 2014 12:59 AM (E4MKN)

450 "we had a woman who could do rework solder -- pull surface mount parts and replace them -- like nobody's business. She could replace microcontrollers with eighteen-gazillion leads and they'd work afterwards."

Those ladies (and they're all ladies) are worth their weight in gold. We have one who works freelance. she makes more per hour then some retired Generals.

Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 12:59 AM (4JkHl)

451 I wonder if ol' Chucky isn't looking at the big picture.

Get kids signed up and logged into a national registry.

It's always easier to sign up more different categories than to do it all at once.

That's where the Obama puppet masters out thought themselves.

If they'd just started out smaller and only certain classes or types of people were to be signed up for Obamacare they could've got it up and running sooner. Then it's just a matter of expanding the list.

People still think Obamacare will fail but it's still going, still on the books and I don't think any failings will sink it. The government doesn't care if it doesn't work correctly. That just makes more work for government employees to do. And the more work, the more have to be hired.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 28, 2014 01:04 AM (LSDdO)

452 His land is now 3' x 6' x 6'

Dirt nap you dirty commie.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 28, 2014 01:05 AM (LSDdO)

453 ..'cause the real problem in tech support is that there shouldn't need to be any. If the development team hadn't thrown a pattern of depth-charges into your cruising space, you'd merely be dealing with the technically inept -- and if the tech writers had performed adequately, most of your job would be referring to page numbers. Which would leave you with your occasionally semi-mutinous, effort-shirking staff....some of whom have actual, real problems that you really want to try to get them through. Oh, Bullshit! Hee!

Posted by: Deety at January 28, 2014 01:11 AM (daK3O)

454 Deety, the daughter at one time wanted to be an auto mechanic. How to explain to a 90# girl that this wasn't a great idea? With the truth. You need a certain level of strength to do the job competently. Well, I got taught and "learned" from my 6' 7" instructor a lesson one day. We were doing "drowning diver" drills one day. (That's when you heave a bunch of weights and/ or volunteers over the gunwales of a boat and pretend to do tirage and CPR). He was GINORMOUS and I had to tell him that the only way that Icould get him on the boat, by myself, would involve raking his belly over the sharp engine prop. Which I was not willing to do for a drill. "What if I were your Dive Buddy?" "If it were all up to me? Solo? You'd be fucked my man... I'd drag your behemoth ass over the prop just on principal!" No. There are some things that 90# or even 120# girls CAN'T do! If she really understands cars, she won't really need to be that strong to be a Master Mechanic, for too long. But she is at terrible a disadvantage, starting out, to the most ignorant, 18 year old floor sweeper in the shop. Hork!

Posted by: Deety at January 28, 2014 01:53 AM (daK3O)

455 I don't mean to discourage girls from jobs where you have to use your brawn with your brains. Just, know that your brawn probably kinda sucks (relatively, all things considered) compared to an 18-27 yr. old male. I get "invited" to reset Big-Box, Home Repair type stores all the time. I usually refuse because they want me to sign off on the possibility of 50# swinging beams. I can HANDLE 50lbs. I can DEAL w/swinging beams, if I get a chance to duck! I AM TOO SMALL to "catch" 50# swinging beams. That's scary and dangerous as hell!

Posted by: Deety at January 28, 2014 02:21 AM (daK3O)

456

Pete Seeger. Marxist bastard who never put his money where his mouth was. Asshole lefty who "protested" Johnson, Vietnam, Nixon, Bush and Iraq but never had a bad word to say about the Syphilitic Hillbilly, the dog-eating crackhead, Benghazi, Afghanistan or the NSA.

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Hope they bury him so I can piss on his grave.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 28, 2014 02:29 AM (zF6Iw)

457 Texting mitt. The end...folks, it's nigh.

Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 28, 2014 02:37 AM (54dkR)

458 groan
[looks a thermometer]
'ya'
[pours cup of hot coffee from automatic ]
[looks at clock]
'nobody at HQ awake yet'

[looks anyway]
'alright, what's the plan, gotta have a plan'

'fudget, whats the point'

Posted by: Carl M. Swutnuss at January 28, 2014 02:52 AM (u8cjO)

459 For some reason, I read the headline as "Small children want tracking device on Harry Reid".

Odd that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 28, 2014 02:54 AM (kFCo1)

460 Another late morning I see

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 28, 2014 03:04 AM (T2V/1)

461 Andy up

Posted by: Vic[/i] at January 28, 2014 03:05 AM (T2V/1)

462 It's here

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 28, 2014 03:05 AM (kFCo1)

463 Mr McGinty, Sir! Fair Winds And Following Seas! We still have men like you in our military. Not very many, but they are there. The fact we have so few, is due to many factors. 1. Constant brainwashing of our young people in 'school', 2. anti-military stance of our 'culture', 3. hate coming from the political left, 4. Lowering (read diversity quota) of recruiting standards, and 5. We have a percentage of patriots in America is running 1 to 99, With those of us who serve being the 1%.

Posted by: Erowmero at January 28, 2014 03:56 AM (OONaw)

464 "Truthfulness." How very Huffpo of you. Just say truth. The Left does have a problem with the truth and with the English language. Let's not give into their stupidity.

Posted by: Terri at January 28, 2014 06:12 AM (4uSYN)

465 Look, some way has to be found to keep track of Joe Biden.

Posted by: Yancey Ward at January 28, 2014 08:53 AM (RGR0F)

466 Was reading the small print on my Soda Stream bottles, and read "Discard after 6/14" WUWT?

Posted by: TimothyJ at January 28, 2014 10:26 AM (ep2io)

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