January 28, 2014
— Maetenloch
"When you have an efficient government, you have a dictatorship."
-- Harry S. Truman
The American Dream is Dead in the South?
Well that's what a recent article by Matthew OÂ’Brien in Atlantic Monthly seems to claim.
Included in the article is a chart showing the percentage of people whose parents were the bottom 20% of income who made it into the upper 20%. When you look at the vast sea of red in the lower left it paints a pretty dismal picture of Dixie which appears to have about the same economic mobility as feudal Europe.
But this map doesn't correspond at all to the places that people are currently moving to to get a better life. And Stacy McCain calls bullshit on it. His primary rebuttal: West Virginia- the glory land of economic advancement?! No fucking way.
Why does rural Arkansas look like a beacon of upward mobility, while the bustling economies of Atlanta and Charlotte produce no such effect?Most of all, why does the map referenced by O'Brien show that impoverished Appalachia offers more opportunity for advancement than any of the more prosperous surrounding flatlands?
To use a social science term: Your data is obviously fucked up.
And when people looked into the study they found it uses a strange way of determining economic advancement. Basically they looked at the mean family income levels of kids when they were in high school and then later the children's family income when they were 30 years old. Not too many people are in the top 20% of income levels at 30 even if they're doing very well. And I hope they adjusted the income levels for local costs of living but I wouldn't bet on it.
Also Who Gets More Federal 'Welfare'- Red or Blue States?Short answer: Blue states by far.
New Mexico Triple Enema, Anal Probe, and Involuntary Colonoscopy Guy Gets $1.6 Million Dollars
A city and county in New Mexico have agreed to settle for $1.6 million their portion of litigation brought by an arrestee who said he was subjected to a humiliating hospital anal exam involving three enemas, a colonoscopy and more after a traffic stop last year....Despite the exam, no drugs were found on Eckert or in his vehicle.
"It was medically unethical and unconstitutional," his lawyer, Shannon Kennedy, told the Associated Press. "He feels relieved that this part is over and believes this litigation might make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else."
Eckert's suit also named Gila Regional Medical Center and the doctors who performed the exam as defendants, and that portion of the case is ongoing.
I'm guessing the settlement against the doctors and hospital will be even bigger since they essentially ass-raped the guy against his will and without any medical justification.
Keep an Eye on Those Rotarians
They're organized, operate under the radar and have cadres in every major city and county. And I for one welcome our future Rotarian overlords.
The Creepiness of Mass Weddings
Whether of Moonies or gay couples at the Grammy Awards group weddings are nearly always the actions of a cult. And very creepy to all the non-cultists.
About like you'd expect.
And here's your chance to vote on the best animated GIFs of 2013. I like the Obama-door one but it's a little too large to embed so you get balloon cat instead.
Also here's what classical paintings might look like if GIF technology had been available back then:
A 1920's Guide to NYC Tourist Etiquette
Don't take the recommendation of strangers regarding hotels... Don't get too friendly with plausible strangers.Don't gape at women smoking cigarettes in restaurants. They are harmless and respectable. They are also "smart."
Don't forget to tip. Tip early and tip often.
Well not gaping and being wary of plausible strangers are still good advice.
Victorian Home For Sale - Slightly Haunted
Built in 1901, this Victorian home in the Hollywood section of Dunmore [Pennsylvania] features 1850 sf of living space with an additional 1350 sf of partially finished space. Original hardwood floors throughout entire home. 4 bedrooms, 2.5 bathrooms. Off-street parking. Freshly painted. New moulding throughout entire first floor. Slightly haunted. Nothing serious, though. e.g. The sounds of phantom footsteps. A strange knocking sound followed by a very quiet (hardly noticeable, even) scream at 3:13am, maybe once a week. Twice a week, tops. And the occasional ghastly visage lurking behind you in the bathroom mirror. Even still, this occurs very rarely and only in the second floor bathroom.
Note to self - avoid the upstairs bathroom at night, contact local shaman.
Solving the Dying Grandmother Code
Ask MetaFilter member JannaK presented the community with a puzzle that had been troubling her family for nearly 20 years. Her grandmother died in 1996 from cancer and in her last days she scribbled down a seemingly non-sensical string of characters on index cards. Nobody knew what it all meant. Then the Metafilter community solved the puzzle in 14 minutes.
According to the posting, JannaK's grandmother left at least 20 of the cards behind but neither JannaK nor her cousins could solve what they assumed were codes. Her father discovered one of the cards lying around recently, and so JannaK put it to the community.
And the MetaFilter community solved the code. Read the story to find out what the cards said.
The AoSHQ group. Yeah.
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Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 28, 2014 06:56 PM (Bps3R)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2014 06:57 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2014 06:57 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Adam at January 28, 2014 06:58 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 06:59 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 06:59 PM (sbcM4)
Posted by: no good deed at January 28, 2014 07:00 PM (vBhbc)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 28, 2014 07:00 PM (Bps3R)
Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 07:01 PM (sbcM4)
Posted by: no good deed at January 28, 2014 07:01 PM (vBhbc)
Jim Hoft must still be totally high on pain meds from his recent hospitalization.
It was one huge facepalm.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 07:02 PM (gqT4g)
TFG is gonna dismantle more electrical plants....
when it is snowing in Florida....
I hate him...I can't stop hating him
Posted by: Sven 10077 at January 28, 2014 07:02 PM (TE35l)
re: Cathy!
Clay Johnson @cjoh
I get that coming up with a SOTU response is hard. But this is really awkward. It's like a Journey song that really hates Obamacare.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 28, 2014 07:02 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 07:03 PM (TP6sz)
Posted by: traye at January 28, 2014 07:03 PM (OusTa)
How did I know it had to be a lie? Because it came from leftists. That's all I needed to know.
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 07:03 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: NYC tourism board today at January 28, 2014 07:03 PM (R6JT1)
Swearsies.
Posted by: haunted house for sale ad at January 28, 2014 07:04 PM (TB/3z)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 07:04 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 07:05 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:05 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at January 28, 2014 07:06 PM (Lqb+9)
Posted by: Adam at January 28, 2014 07:06 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: no good deed at January 28, 2014 07:06 PM (vBhbc)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 07:07 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 07:07 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Adam at January 28, 2014 10:58 PM (Aif/5)
Can we, just as a point of order, consign all TFG speech issues to the thread below.......please?!?!?
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 07:07 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:07 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at January 28, 2014 07:07 PM (HTHxV)
The UK Tea Party (UKIP) is now is first place in polling in Britain.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 07:07 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 07:08 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 07:08 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 28, 2014 07:09 PM (abZxN)
Oughta rename this one: "Overnight Salvation Thread".
Cause it surely saved us from the hell of the SOTU/STFU ones which preceded it.
Thanks, Maet!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 28, 2014 07:09 PM (vvk2F)
How did I know it had to be a lie? Because it came from leftists. That's all I needed to know.
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 11:03 PM (FHNkr)
Leftists generally lump military spending in with federal $$$, which is technically correct I guess, but you know what they say about liars and figures. With military spending added in (including the money paid out per military student to each school district) red states DO get more fed dollars.
Now if you're saying strictly welfare/entitlement payments...not so much.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:09 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:10 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 07:10 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: The Narrative at January 28, 2014 07:10 PM (WSjlp)
Iceland used to be an American ally until Bush named it as part of the Axis of Evil. Or was that Iran...
Posted by: Andrea "Skullface" Mitchell at January 28, 2014 07:10 PM (RwPqC)
Posted by: Guy Who Screwed Mailbox at January 28, 2014 07:10 PM (x09C5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2014 07:10 PM (AymDN)
Do any of the studies take into account Federal owned landed? I mean, many of the large red states have large swaths of land owned by the Feds. That means Fed $ goes for the upkeep of said lands. The lying bastards probably use these numbers to say the backwards Red state voters are the ones receiving the money. Let's look at how much money is spend on Federal land inside Red states and deduct that.
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 07:11 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: mindful webworker at January 28, 2014 07:11 PM (U13jb)
The UK Tea Party (UKIP) is now is first place in polling in Britain.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 11:07 PM (wNF3N)
Nigel Farage would be a more American President than what we've got now.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 07:11 PM (T1005)
As we are already well aware of, Obama likes to talk about . . . Obama. HereÂ’s the breakdown from tonightÂ’s SOTU:
“I” 50 times.
“My” 11 times.
“Me” 8 times.
“Me” 3 times (including one “let me be clear”).
“As president” 2 times.
Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at January 28, 2014 07:11 PM (abZxN)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 07:11 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 11:08 PM (X3GkB)
Robert Stacy McCain, internet journalist, AKA The Other McCain.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:11 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2014 07:12 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 11:07 PM (wNF3N)
Good. Take out the British Republicans (Tories).
Posted by: NWConservative at January 28, 2014 07:12 PM (buZ/8)
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 07:12 PM (TP6sz)
Dunno anything about acoustic. Lemme know when you're thinking electric and I'll go on for hours.
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 07:12 PM (FHNkr)
I love my D-15 but f**k Chris Martin. Posted by: Mr. Dave at January 28, 2014 11:07 PM
I love my J45.
Posted by: huerfano at January 28, 2014 07:13 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at January 28, 2014 07:13 PM (qFpRI)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2014 07:13 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Macklemore at January 28, 2014 07:13 PM (TP6sz)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:14 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 11:08 PM (RZ8pf)
Congratulations and/or commiserations, as appropriate.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:14 PM (yh0zB)
Well counting military spending in red states would be like counting FBI budget or something. That's federal stuff, it shouldn't count. They should only be counting fed money given to state and local gov'ts and individuals. Fed giving money to a fed department located in Iowa and then saying "those backwards Red staters are on the Fed dole!!111" is just disingenuous.
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 07:14 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at January 28, 2014 07:14 PM (iB0Q2)
Posted by: Manure I'm sure at January 28, 2014 07:14 PM (R6JT1)
http://tinyurl.com/kpgtn7x
Be sure and watch the awesome video.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 07:15 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 28, 2014 07:15 PM (Aif/5)
The “superiority” of socialized healthcare has yet again been shown in that paragon of socialism Sweden, where the public socialized healthcare is so wondereful, Swedes are going out of their way to secure private health insurance. Why? Because getting a life saving operation within weeks thanks to private insurance is better than having to wait a year under socialized healthcare.
More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=4747
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2014 10:57 PM (AymDN)
Paul Krugman assured us back in 2009 that, “In Britain, the government itself runs the hospitals and employs the doctors. We’ve all heard scare stories about how that works in practice; these stories are false.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2014 07:15 PM (F75MN)
Posted by: CDR M at January 28, 2014 07:15 PM (LsJl8)
Posted by: pLINY THE eLDER at January 28, 2014 07:15 PM (rPV8C)
Posted by: no good deed at January 28, 2014 07:16 PM (vBhbc)
Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 07:16 PM (sbcM4)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 07:16 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 07:16 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 11:03 PM (TP6sz)
Everyone on the Right is discredited. Because racism and hate and bigotry and homophobia and Binders of Women you guys.
Posted by: The Left at January 28, 2014 07:16 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:16 PM (yh0zB)
Do you have Biden doing your typing or something?
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 07:17 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 28, 2014 07:17 PM (anf71)
Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 07:17 PM (sbcM4)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 28, 2014 07:17 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 07:18 PM (X3GkB)
Gotta wait till 2015 for Marty
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/bttf.asp
Posted by: The Narrative at January 28, 2014 11:10 PM (WSjlp)
Well maybe a year and a half from now will be totally different.
No. No it won't be. It'll be just like now except with the iPhone 6 and a couple of new TV shows.
Posted by: Mætenloch at January 28, 2014 07:18 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2014 11:13 PM (AymDN)
At least then, you'd have an American president
Posted by: PMRich at January 28, 2014 07:18 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 11:14 PM (FHNkr)
Agreed.
PGiS, I did enjoy London when I was there, but I've never been to Iceland. Sounds like fun.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:18 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: mindful webworker at January 28, 2014 07:18 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 28, 2014 07:19 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 28, 2014 07:19 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 28, 2014 07:20 PM (4A8Dj)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 07:20 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 07:20 PM (qbQhu)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:21 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 07:21 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at January 28, 2014 07:21 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 07:22 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 07:22 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:22 PM (ojnk6)
Snowmagedon here in Hampton Roads is not as bad as forecast so far. I'm at 4 inches of snow and I don't think well make it to the forecast 13 inches.
I think they got that much back in early '89 when I still lived there.
Holy cow, what a disaster that was for driving
Posted by: PMRich at January 28, 2014 07:22 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: soothsayer, they chanted at January 28, 2014 11:20 PM (qbQhu)
That's the portal to the centre of the earth.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 28, 2014 07:22 PM (F75MN)
Posted by: ergie at January 28, 2014 07:23 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Aviator at January 28, 2014 07:23 PM (DI+ja)
Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 07:23 PM (sbcM4)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:23 PM (yh0zB)
I liked the landscapes though. Somewhere in Poland or Hungary there's a game-designer taking a LOT of notes for the next "Witcher" knockoff.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 07:23 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: The Alternate History Hat at January 28, 2014 07:24 PM (AymDN)
You can unhide this user's posts by clicking below.
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 11:19 PM (TP6sz) Unhide all posts from (TP6sz)
Blue dots hash
Posted by: [/i] [/b] Thag Simmons at January 28, 2014 07:25 PM (COjgg)
Posted by: mindful webworker at January 28, 2014 07:25 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:25 PM (ZPrif)
Reagan appointees, surely.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 07:26 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 11:22 PM (RZ8pf)
You sound fully qualified to be our next ambassador to Iceland.
Posted by: Odumfck at January 28, 2014 07:26 PM (KDUNf)
Highs in Iceland for June are around 55-58 F; lows around 45. It has quite a moderate temp for just outside of the Arctic circle. Say thank you, Gulf Stream. And while it has some glaciers in its interior, it is mostly ice free.
I wouldn't mind visiting there myself.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 07:26 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: The Alternate History Hat at January 28, 2014 07:26 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Sandra Day O'Conner at January 28, 2014 07:27 PM (sbcM4)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 11:22 PM (RZ8pf)<<<
Hmm. You seem to know a lot about Iceland. I bet you'd make a wonderful ambassador.
Posted by: SCOAMF at January 28, 2014 07:27 PM (TB/3z)
Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 28, 2014 07:27 PM (CN6G3)
The Cubs are still not winning the World Series though. Not even Spielberg can fix that.
Posted by: exdem13 at January 28, 2014 07:27 PM (lJaja)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at January 28, 2014 07:27 PM (bwh5U)
Hello and good-night, my pretties!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at January 28, 2014 11:20 PM (4A8Dj)
TAMMY!!!! How ya doin'?
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 07:28 PM (T1005)
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 07:28 PM (TP6sz)
I agree, of course.
On this topic over the last couple days I got about three emails from various GOP lists asking what my biggest disappointment with Obama was. I just clicked one of the links.
Turns out I was not really "asked" anything since there was no option to write in my thoughts - it was a radio-list, not a text-box, as the software terms go.
The GOP doesn't really want my opinion; it wants my acquiescence, it wants me to agree that the GOP is the best option on the two-party ballot.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 07:28 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Justice White at January 28, 2014 07:29 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 07:29 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: mindful webworker at January 28, 2014 11:25 PM (U13jb)
She just said "Hello? Hello?" as if she wanted to know who was in the house. At first I thought it was the lady next door, but when I went downstairs the doors were all closed and locked and there were no lights on next door. I later found out from the woman I was renting the house from that "Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you...Mama still lives there..."
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:29 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 28, 2014 07:30 PM (CN6G3)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 11:28 PM (30eLQ)
A compliant serf is a happy serf!
Posted by: Rinse and Karl at January 28, 2014 07:30 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at January 28, 2014 07:31 PM (bwh5U)
I have an Icelandic coworker. She reports that they've been replanting those trees over the past hundred years. Still not tall or extensive as they used to be but, maybe in another century
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 07:31 PM (30eLQ)
Everybody down south needs to remember to conserve energy to curb global warming. I urge you to set your heat to 55 degrees to protect the planet and I know president Obama would appreciate this also.
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at January 28, 2014 07:31 PM (iB0Q2)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:31 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 07:32 PM (TP6sz)
Posted by: GGE Portrait of a Yong Moron at January 28, 2014 07:32 PM (sbcM4)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:32 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:33 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at January 28, 2014 07:34 PM (RRbuy)
It isn't only the government and Arthur Andersen that cooks the books!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 28, 2014 07:34 PM (o3MSL)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 28, 2014 07:34 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:35 PM (ZPrif)
places like W Va and eastern Kentucky are nearly all-White and all-poor, but have more upward mobility than the tidewater areas
because, racism
Posted by: Harald the BallCrusher at January 28, 2014 07:36 PM (omBWL)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:36 PM (ojnk6)
What a fuckin' beta.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 07:36 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 28, 2014 07:36 PM (g4TxM)
>>>Do you have to be perfectly healthy -- except for the lethal cancer, of course -- to qualify for clinical trials?
I suspect that they are looking for those that have a 'high probability' of responding positively to the drug, i.e. cooking the books as someone else said.
Posted by: PMRich at January 28, 2014 07:37 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 28, 2014 07:37 PM (CN6G3)
Posted by: GGE Portrait of a Yong Moron at January 28, 2014 11:32 PM (sbcM4)
Heh. Actually she was (I've seen pictures), but at that time if she had still been in the land of the living she'd have been in her 90's.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:38 PM (yh0zB)
Yeah, that.
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 07:38 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 11:28 PM (30eLQ)
They don't need your opinion or acquiescence, your not their base. The base is the chamber of crony capitalism, illegal aliens, and Obama apparently.
Posted by: NWConservative at January 28, 2014 07:38 PM (buZ/8)
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 07:39 PM (TP6sz)
Posted by: Trevor@TJexcite at January 28, 2014 07:39 PM (bkAvJ)
Posted by: nobhead at January 28, 2014 07:40 PM (au0fK)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:41 PM (ojnk6)
Either way, "nobhead" seems to fit.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 07:41 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:42 PM (ZPrif)
Oh, don't sell us short. We're willing to sell out on just about anything.
Posted by: Republican Establishment at January 28, 2014 07:42 PM (vBhbc)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone (@MoxieMom on twitter) at January 28, 2014 07:43 PM (zDsvJ)
What a fuckin' beta.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 11:36 PM (30eLQ)
Even I think that was a time Romney should have manned up.
Posted by: Pajama Boy at January 28, 2014 07:43 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:43 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:43 PM (ZPrif)
HOWWWAAAHHHHDDD !!!
Posted by: Mrs Wolowitz at January 28, 2014 07:44 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 07:44 PM (TP6sz)
Ready? The GOP conceded the point years ago. America has no debt ceiling. Print the cash, roll the blunts and watch the SuperBowl.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 07:44 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:44 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: nobhead at January 28, 2014 11:40 PM (au0fK)
Naaah, Rushmore wouldn't work. Rock's the wrong color. Now Blackstrap Mountain in Saskatchewan would be perfect....
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 28, 2014 07:45 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: Serious Cat at January 28, 2014 07:46 PM (UOjzE)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 28, 2014 07:47 PM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:47 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Living Colour at January 28, 2014 07:47 PM (sbcM4)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 07:47 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at January 28, 2014 07:47 PM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:48 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:49 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 28, 2014 07:49 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 07:49 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 11:47 PM (RZ8pf)
I recommend anything by PJ O'Roarke. 
Seriously, Parliament of Whores is a good one.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:50 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: The Jackhole at January 28, 2014 07:50 PM (uOV6o)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 28, 2014 07:50 PM (54dkR)
Like, seriously, anyone have the need for some reason to upchuck their stomach's contents?
Because if you do, you can check out this .gif of Boehner giving thumps up to the Historic Worst:
http://tinyurl.com/kqb9sex
We're boned.
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 07:50 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 07:50 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 28, 2014 07:51 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:51 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 07:51 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 28, 2014 07:52 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 07:52 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:52 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 07:53 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 28, 2014 07:53 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 11:47 PM (RZ8pf)
All of them. Parliament of Whores, though, is a classic.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 07:54 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 07:54 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: mindful webworker at January 28, 2014 07:54 PM (U13jb)
Kudos to those brave souls who went all the way.
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 11:50 PM (Q6HBD)
There's a game?
I refuse to watch it so I didn't play. I, like George Thorogood, drink alone...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:54 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 28, 2014 07:55 PM (54dkR)
Of course, your 'funny' may be different than mine.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 11:51 PM (aDwsi)
Holidays in Hell is one of my favorites even if some of the stories are a bit dated now. His accounts of visiting East Germany and Lebanon during the height of kidnapping westerners are classics.
Posted by: Mætenloch at January 28, 2014 07:55 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 07:55 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: nobhead at January 28, 2014 07:55 PM (au0fK)
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 07:56 PM (TP6sz)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 07:57 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 07:57 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:57 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 11:52 PM (ZPrif)
I have nothing to say, except that I hate this fucking disease with the burning intensity of a thousand suns.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:57 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 07:57 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 07:57 PM (X3GkB)
She's about to start chemo and, I think, radiation. But statistically neither is likely to do much. And I'm sure the care she's about to get in the next few months is gonna be hugely expensive and probably consume more health care resources than she's used in her entire life until this point. She was a healthy lady.
She is the perfect candidate for the Death Panels. Or Liverpool Care Pathway or whatever they are calling Death Panels this week.
But she doesn't want to die and doesn't want to give up. She doesn't want to be told how grim the odds are (answer: about as grim as they get) so she's gonna undergo the best protocol they know and fight till the end.
From the State's perspective she's just a losing bet at this point and every $ they spend is throwing good money after bad.
Obama wants to Bend the Curve in healthcare spending. The way you do that is by denying my relative these treatments that seem likely to only extend her life a few weeks.
Of course, she might get lucky. The treatments could work. But the odds are, as I understand it, exceedingly low.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 11:52 PM (ZPrif)
I'm very sorry. Does she have someone who could help research treatments that do not require the medical industry to grant approval?
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 07:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Troll #99 at January 28, 2014 07:58 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 07:58 PM (MpP9p)
@Hardline_Stance
Former Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen to Megyn Kelly: 'Obama on #SOTU went from blaming Bush to plagiarizing him -- 2007 speech.'
Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 28, 2014 07:59 PM (cxs6V)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 07:59 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: ergmcmuffin at January 28, 2014 07:59 PM (X3GkB)
I'm tuning up my fiddle nobhead. Get ready to dance.
On a completely unrelated note, really, who in their right mind calls a Saiga .223 a fiddle?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 07:59 PM (yh0zB)
Holidays in Hell
Parliament of Whores Posted by: akula51 at January 28, 2014 11:50 PM
All The Troubles In The World
Driving Like Crazy
Give War a Chance
Age and Guile Beat Youth, Innocence, and a Bad Haircut
Eat the Rich
CEO of The Sofa
Posted by: Mrs Wolowitz at January 28, 2014 07:59 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 07:59 PM (Q6HBD)
Reading it again, you just have to bleep out the references to politicians who are fading from memory. We 40-somethings will remember Dodd and Moynihan. 20-somethings? Er... maybe Moynihan, for "Defining Deviancy Down"... which isn't why "Parliament" mentions him.
"Bachelor Home Companion" and "Modern Manners" are timeless. ... for men. They are not written for women (but maybe moronettes will laugh along).
"Give War A Chance"?
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 08:00 PM (30eLQ)
Overpopulation - Just Enough of Me, Way Too Much of You
Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2014 08:01 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:02 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:02 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:02 PM (MpP9p)
Driving Like Crazy
Give War a Chance
Age and Guile Beat Youth, Innocence, and a Bad Haircut
Eat the Rich
CEO of The Sofa
Posted by: Mrs Wolowitz at January 28, 2014 11:59 PM (aTXUx)
Oh, forgot all about "Driving like Crazy". How could I have forgotten that? Bad GGE! Evil bad naughty GGE!!!
I think I need a moronette to spank me.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:02 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 28, 2014 08:03 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 12:02 AM (MpP9p)
So you say, but I submit that we have yet to see graphical evidence of said "pillow fight".
What sayeth the Horde?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:04 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:04 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:04 PM (ZPrif)
Media Matters doesn't have a very good pool to choose from.
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 08:05 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 08:05 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2014 12:04 AM (Q6HBD)
What could possibly go wrong? After all, SS has been such a rousing success...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:05 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 08:05 PM (ojnk6)
We might've got a Goldwater Presidency. Or at least Reagan 1968-76
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 08:05 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Blacksheep at January 28, 2014 08:06 PM (bS6uW)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:06 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:06 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2014 08:06 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: nobhead at January 28, 2014 08:06 PM (au0fK)
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at January 28, 2014 08:06 PM (cK56K)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 08:08 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:08 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:08 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Troll #99 at January 28, 2014 08:08 PM (zELMe)
What was the promised price, Grìma?
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 08:08 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:09 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:09 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Thrawn at January 28, 2014 08:09 PM (WlWt+)
The judges have reviewed your record and found that you have never made even a single worthwhile comment here. Perhaps HotAir or LGF will be a better fit for you. Goodbye.
Posted by: Mætenloch at January 28, 2014 08:10 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:10 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 08:11 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:11 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 08:11 PM (zELMe)
>>I thought it was like an IRA, except "guaranteed" by the gov't?
If you like your money, you can keep your money - period.
Posted by: PMRich at January 28, 2014 08:11 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:11 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:11 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 08:12 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 08:12 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: logprof at January 29, 2014 12:08 AM (X3GkB)
The only hash marks are from tonight.
Posted by: RWC at January 29, 2014 12:09 AM (Q6HBD) Hide posts from (Q6HBD)
Maybe skidmarks would be a better description.
Posted by: [/i] [/b] Thag Simmons at January 28, 2014 08:12 PM (COjgg)
I know she met with her oncologist the other day and was told she didn't qualify for any of the clinical trials that were available for her type of cancer.
I don't know how the oncologist determines that. I'm guessing it's just some database or something.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 29, 2014 12:02 AM (ZPrif)
Despite everything the AMA wants to tell you, you alone are in charge of your own destiny. Her oncologist is saying, "you're going to die" based on what he can provide her from the American medical system.....which is pretty damned good, but not exhaustive. Clinical trials are places the American medical system would like to expand. Are these "clinical trials" treatments available in other countries? Are they available for veterinarians? Are there treatments for her condition that do not involve clinical trials?
Unfortunately, when you discover you need to be doing this worldwide research, you're pretty damned sick......so is there someone who can help her with this research?
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 08:12 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:12 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 28, 2014 08:12 PM (SREVj)
I didn't think he could raise the min. wage for fed contractors by executive order either, so there ya go.
Posted by: Iasonas at January 28, 2014 08:13 PM (FHNkr)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:13 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 28, 2014 08:13 PM (CN6G3)
Posted by: The Anti-Trolling Hat at January 28, 2014 08:13 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 28, 2014 08:13 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:13 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 08:13 PM (X3GkB)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my7sxZ0KfHU
[thanks Maet]
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 08:13 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 08:14 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: nobhead at January 28, 2014 08:14 PM (au0fK)
Driving Like Crazy
Give War a Chance
Age and Guile Beat Youth, Innocence, and a Bad Haircut
Eat the Rich
CEO of The Sofa
Posted by: Mrs Wolowitz at January 28, 2014 11:59 PM (aTXUx)
Oh, forgot all about "Driving like Crazy". How could I have forgotten that? Bad GGE! Evil bad naughty GGE!!!
I think I need a moronette to spank me.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2014 12:02 AM (yh0zB)
You wish. On The Wealth of Nations is interesting and might be driving fare (but only after you do the fun ones), 'cause there's lots to think about and he presents it well.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 08:15 PM (T1005)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 08:15 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: akula51[/b][/i][/s] at January 28, 2014 08:15 PM (54dkR)
Posted by: King Barry at January 28, 2014 08:16 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:16 PM (MpP9p)
You wish. On The Wealth of Nations is interesting and might be driving fare (but only after you do the fun ones), 'cause there's lots to think about and he presents it well.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2014 12:15 AM (T1005)
How sad is it that I throw that out and only an Elder God catches it...and then stuffs it in my face...
fml. I'm going back to drinking.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:17 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2014 08:17 PM (7+QLY)
Posted by: Sister Sestina at January 28, 2014 08:17 PM (Em6d4)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 28, 2014 08:18 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: logprof: 'Noles! at January 28, 2014 08:18 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 08:18 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 12:16 AM (MpP9p)
Much more entertaining is when the troll post is replaced by something completely different. Hard on COBs, but much more entertaining.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:19 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 08:19 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 08:19 PM (FulI1)
'The Wilder Shores of Marx' is the title. Dryer humor than O'Rourke but very insightful observations of some of the worst places on the planet because people chose to make them that way rather than any failure of geography.
Posted by: Epobirs at January 28, 2014 08:19 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 08:20 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:20 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:21 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 08:21 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:21 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 08:21 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:21 PM (ZPrif)
You
wish. On The Wealth of Nations is interesting and might be driving fare
(but only after you do the fun ones), 'cause there's lots to think
about and he presents it well.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2014 12:15 AM (T1005)
How sad is it that I throw that out and only an Elder God catches it...and then stuffs it in my face...
fml. I'm going back to drinking.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2014 12:17 AM (yh0zB)
It's not like I wouldn't wish either. Prost!
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 08:21 PM (T1005)
It wasn't the space battleship was it?
ph34r the Desslok Cannon
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 08:22 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 12:20 AM (MpP9p)
ALLEGED pillow fight. Still haven't seen any proof.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:22 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 08:22 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 28, 2014 08:23 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: logprof: 'Noles! at January 28, 2014 08:23 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 08:23 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: J-Ro at January 28, 2014 08:23 PM (TP6sz)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2014 08:24 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 08:24 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: logprof: 'Noles! at January 28, 2014 08:25 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:25 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:25 PM (yh0zB)
If this is the book that was originally titled _Utopias Elsewhere_, the recommendation is seconded.
Well, actually, even if it's a different book entirely, you can't go wrong.
The man is a simply brilliant writer. And an immensely powerful voice.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 08:26 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:26 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 08:26 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 28, 2014 08:26 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:26 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: One Ping Only at January 28, 2014 08:26 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:27 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: logprof: 'Noles! at January 28, 2014 08:28 PM (X3GkB)
Still the best anime evar. Still in development hell in the 'States alas.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 08:28 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:29 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:30 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 08:30 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 08:30 PM (FulI1)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:31 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 08:31 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:32 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 08:33 PM (aDwsi)
Very bad.
Sometimes it's possible to get at those deep brain tumors with the multiaxial "gamma knife" radiation device. You should ask about it.
With regard to clinical trials, there is a site, clinicaltrials.gov, where you can plug in a disease term and you'll be referred to a list of NIH-sponsored clinical trials. Which may not be an exhaustive list. Not everything goes via NIH.
There are a bunch of things being tried for glioblastoma.
It also indicates where the trials are being run, which matters with an elderly person who may not be able to travel comfortably for long distances.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 08:33 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 08:33 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: shredded chi - If the river was whiskey, I'd be a diving duck at January 28, 2014 08:33 PM (CN6G3)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 29, 2014 12:33 AM (aDwsi)
Thanks a butt-load. Really.
From what I hear its worse to the south and east.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:34 PM (yh0zB)
Looking forward to the increase in the ol' chocolate ration too!
Even wunderground can't hide that winter-is-coming, Thursday afternoon, and will be sticking around through the next week.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at January 28, 2014 08:34 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2014 08:34 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:35 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 08:35 PM (FulI1)
-Reggie Love
Oh yeah, I got something long and hard for you... *gazes lovingly at gun safe*
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:35 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 28, 2014 08:35 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:35 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at January 28, 2014 08:35 PM (FSa8O)
They mentioned something about the NLRB being involved in the matter. Yeah the illegally staffed NLRB, union fellating NLRN... wonder how that will go?
Posted by: Hate Miser at January 28, 2014 08:36 PM (TB/3z)
I see nothing has changed.
Posted by: navybrat at January 28, 2014 08:36 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Royal Society For Putting Things on Top of Other Things. at January 28, 2014 08:36 PM (mETGQ)
ohhh... kay.
*applies at the Paraguayan embassy*
Posted by: boulder mischling hobo at January 28, 2014 08:37 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2014 12:34 AM (z4WKX)
which is why I don't watch the TV much these days...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:37 PM (yh0zB)
Of course, she might get lucky. The treatments could work. But the odds are, as I understand it, exceedingly low.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 11:52 PM (ZPrif)
=======================
My husband had leukemia. He underwent a bone-marrow transplant, even though his oncologist (privately, thank God) thought he wouldn't make it. He was too old, too fat, too this and that.
He turned out one of the best outcomes she ever had. So much for the certainties of medical knowledge! .....
Posted by: Sister Sestina at January 29, 2014 12:17 AM (Em6d4)
Whether the odds are exceedingly low or not, the extent of treatment should always be up to the recipient of said treatment. If they feel that there is a fight worth fighting, there is still a will to live that should not be denied.
My FIL was also one of those that the doctors told "You have 3 - 6 weeks, go home and make arrangements.." This was for lung cancer that was very large.
He did end up losing 1/2 of the R lung and almost 1/3 of the L lung, but he is still here - 16 years that has included 5 more grandkids and all of the joys that go along with them.
Now, if he had only listened to that first doctor...
Posted by: PMRich at January 28, 2014 08:38 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: boulder mischling hobo at January 29, 2014 12:37 AM (30eLQ)
Wait, come back!
Posted by: Peruvian Embassy at January 28, 2014 08:38 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 08:39 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 28, 2014 08:40 PM (tmFlQ)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 29, 2014 12:39 AM (ojnk6)
Where I work reserves a block of rooms at group rates at the hotel right up the street.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 08:40 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Royal Society For Putting Things on Top of Other Things. at January 29, 2014 12:36 AM (mETGQ)
We don't like you stackers.
Posted by: Rotary guy at January 28, 2014 08:40 PM (F75MN)
There's also a good podcast by a couple of guys here in Winnipeg called The Illegal Curve (http://illegalcurve.com/radio/). In pod form their two-hour Wednesday show is probably only about 75 minutes long, longer than 30 but not bad. It's Jets-centric but probably 1/2 - 2/3 NHL in general.Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 08:41 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:41 PM (ZPrif)
Are there website that help with such a search, I can forward them to the people helping her. I don't live near her and am not a close relative of hers, but she's in my extended family. So I'm getting this news of her condition and prognosis 3rd hand.
But if you can let me know some website to start with I'll forward them on.
Are other countries allowed to run clinical trials in America? Or do you have to fly there?
And never heard about the vet stuff.
As I understand it, she has a glioblastoma. Not sure where exactly, but in a position deep enough that surgery is not an option.
I've been told that the prognosis is very bad for an inoperable brain tumor like hers. But my info is 2nd and 3rd hand from other relatives keeping me in the loop.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 29, 2014 12:21 AM (ZPrif)
I don't know how much you're up on the history of science, but folks like Priestley (isolated oxygen gas, invented soda water -- IRL clergyman), Watt (improved steam engines, measured oomph in horsepower -- IRL, machinist), and Hedy Lamarr (spread spectrum frequency-hopping -- IRL, actress) have shown that your paycheck needn't say "scientist" on it to advance science. You don't need to submit to "clinical trials" (which is an FDA term regarding a particular stage in licensing a drug) to experiment with treatments. You merely have to get your hands on the necessary substances and get them administered competently.....which may, for legal reasons, involve leaving the country for a bit. There is no one specific website, however.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 08:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2014 08:43 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:44 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:45 PM (Q6HBD)
Very bad indeed. My cousin only made it about four months from when he was first diagnosed, and was effectively gone much sooner. His ability to form new memories went early on. There was a difficult moment when an oncologist was explaining the options, that could perhaps buy a few months, but had to start over a dozen times because my cousin internal reset button would get pressed and he would be back at the beginning of the conversation.
The oncologist persisted, trying to give a chance at retaining the info long enough to have an opinion but it was futile. The only thing the treatment would buy him was life as a scratched record, skipping back to the same track forever. Not long after that, it got worse to the extent that he no longer had any idea what year it was.
Posted by: Epobirs at January 28, 2014 08:45 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2014 08:46 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 08:47 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 08:47 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: mindful webworker at January 28, 2014 08:48 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: garrett at January 28, 2014 08:48 PM (FulI1)
Whether the odds are exceedingly low or not, the extent of treatment should always be up to the recipient of said treatment. If they feel that there is a fight worth fighting, there is still a will to live that should not be denied.
My FIL was also one of those that thedoctors told "You have 3 - 6 weeks, go home and make arrangements.." This was for lung cancer that was very large.
He did end up losing 1/2 of the R lung and almost 1/3 of the L lung,but he is still here - 16 years that has included 5 moregrandkids and all of the joys that go along with them.
Now, if he had only listened to that first doctor...
Posted by: PMRich at January 29, 2014 12:38 AM (KDUNf)
2nd opinion is critical -- but having everything go through insurance (instead of paid doctor visits) is nipping that in the bud. The whole trend about jacking "rack rates" and then accepting insurance discounts is what is screwing up medical care in this country.....not any lack of insurance.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 08:49 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 08:49 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:49 PM (Q6HBD)
I got through Conan the Barbarian and the last ep of Blackadder season #3 tonight.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 28, 2014 08:50 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 08:50 PM (MpP9p)
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; ">Lockbox.
Posted by: Barack O'Gore at January 28, 2014 08:50 PM (TB/3z)
Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2014 08:51 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: navybrat at January 28, 2014 08:51 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 08:52 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 28, 2014 08:54 PM (tmFlQ)
Yes, but getting one's "hands on the necessary substances" can be a cast iron bitch in the American legal and regulatory environment, and sometimes those substances aren't available outside of that environment when they're coming from American pharma firms.
Cap'n Ted Kennedy of the submarine USS Oldsmobile was told in the last months of his life that there was a drug which might prolong his survival. It took every last string which his considerable wealth and political connections could pull in order for him to get access to it. Suffice it to say that any ordinary citizen would have been up shit creek without a paddle.
I consider this one of the central arguments for a pure libertarianism when it comes to medicine, by the way. It's utterly ludicrous that government functionaries can deny dying people access to drugs because the drugs might kill them. Heaven forfend!
Posted by: torquewrench at January 28, 2014 08:55 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2014 08:55 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 08:56 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: rickl at January 28, 2014 08:56 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 08:57 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:00 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Linda Richman at January 28, 2014 09:01 PM (EqGES)
Posted by: The Dude at January 28, 2014 09:01 PM (bStrg)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 29, 2014 12:47 AM (ojnk6)
Last time we had a horrible ice storm in RDU (2005) the schools turned the busses around and brought them back to the school buildings, and then ordered pizzas. Traffic was frozen everywhere but the pizza guys got through. I thought they should have sent the kids home with a pizza and have the pizza guys deliver them.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:02 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2014 09:02 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:03 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2014 09:03 PM (N/cFh)
That is WHY it is going up. Duh.
Posted by: navybrat at January 28, 2014 09:03 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 29, 2014 01:03 AM (N/cFh)
*hands Weirddave a Redd's Strawberry Ale* (sorry, it's all I got, and it's snowing here)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:04 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:04 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 28, 2014 09:06 PM (ZPrif)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 29, 2014 01:03 AM (N/cFh)
Is that code for "I got hit with a lot of pillows"?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:06 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 09:08 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2014 09:08 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: TMNT at January 28, 2014 09:08 PM (AymDN)
regarding a particular stage in licensing a drug) to experiment with
treatments. You merely have to get your hands on the necessary
substances and get them administered competently.....which may, for
legal reasons, involve leaving the country for a bit."
Yes, but getting one's "hands on the necessary substances" can be a cast iron bitch in the American legal and regulatory environment, and sometimes those substances aren't available outside of that environment when they're coming from American pharma firms.
Cap'n Ted Kennedy of the submarine USS Oldsmobile was told in the last months of his life that there was a drug which might prolong his survival. It took every last string which his considerable wealth and political connections could pull in order for him to get access to it. Suffice it to say that any ordinary citizen would have been up shit creek without a paddle.
I consider this one of the central arguments for a pure libertarianism when it comes to medicine, by the way. It's utterly ludicrous that government functionaries can deny dying people access to drugs because the drugs might kill them. Heaven forfend!
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2014 12:55 AM (gqT4g)
Every word you say is correct.....but my take on it is just a tiny bit different.
If a drug has been developed/synthesized by an American Pharma company, and is only available at 18 kazillion dollars a dose....yes, you are totally fooked. But if the drug is a simple distillation of the bazinga bush in the far-off land of Klooj, it's unlikely that American Pharma would pay the outrageous graft necessary to get it certified as "safe and effective" by the FDA, so it will never be a drug in the US.....until Pharma can synthesize a workalike out of coal tar and rubidium, and get a patent on it.
So if you can duck off to Acapulco or the Bahamas and get a quick dose of bazinga juice from Klooj, it may be worth a try. You won't get "bazingaidium", under development from Pfizer, for less than $100,000 a dose and under some clinical protocol.....but it might just save your life.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 09:09 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 01:04 AM (MpP9p)
Is that code for "I hit Weirddave with a lot of pillows"?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:11 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 09:11 PM (X3GkB)
how are your parents?
Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2014 01:08 AM (z4WKX)j
Mom just gleefully informed me that they haven't had any snow in Iowa and if I lived there now I wouldn't be in the middle of a snowstorm.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:12 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:13 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2014 09:14 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 09:14 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 09:15 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:16 PM (MpP9p)
He isn't lying. He told me this on Saturday (before the pillow fight with Gingy).
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 12:20 AM (MpP9p)
Anytime I see a copy of Parliament of Whores at a yard sale or thrift store I buy it so I'll have copies to give to people that need to read it. Vendette wouldn't take a copy, said she'd buy it herself. Have you Vendette?
Posted by: Weirddave at January 29, 2014 01:14 AM (N/cFh)
This is actually a good idea. PoW is a great civics text.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 09:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2014 09:16 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 29, 2014 01:14 AM (N/cFh)
Remember I said I could borrow it from the library?
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 01:16 AM (MpP9p)
Dodging. Did you?
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 09:16 PM (T1005)
*shudder*
Srsly city dwellers, is it that hard to find a place with its own parking lot? Leaving my baby parked on the side of the street 3 blocks away jangled the nerves something fierce.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:18 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2014 09:18 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 29, 2014 01:14 AM (ojnk6)
Yeah, what he said!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:19 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:20 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:21 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:22 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:23 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: sauropod at January 28, 2014 09:24 PM (G/vW6)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:24 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 09:25 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 09:25 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2014 01:23 AM (yh0zB)
Are parking garages OK?
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 01:24 AM (MpP9p)
Actually, paid parking is a very strong indication that you're in the land of the blue.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 09:26 PM (T1005)
This Marty McFly meme appears every few months or so, for some unknown reason.
Posted by: Biff Boffo at January 28, 2014 09:26 PM (1j9qS)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 09:26 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 09:26 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2014 09:26 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 09:26 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 01:24 AM (MpP9p)
eh...better than street-side 3 blocks away.
The question also applies to those living here in Raleigh, there was a mini MoMe that I would have attended except the parking garage was posted, so I went back home.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:27 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Marcus Junius Brutus at January 28, 2014 09:27 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 09:29 PM (X3GkB)
All he can do is THREATEN to do (frankly) pretty small-time totalitarian moves.
You just know that he WANTS to be like Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela, just unilaterally imposing straight-up communism. But he doesn't have the gonads for that. So he settles for the semi-stealth socialism in increments.
The problem with Executive Orders, combined with the 22nd Amendment, is that you can't be president forever, and the next guy, if he's from the other party, can just as easily Un-Order everything you ordered. A properly passed law (by Congress) can be Un-Ordered by the next guy, but a lame-ass Executive Order can.
So, this is good. Despite his bluster, he's still playing defense. Reduced to Hail-Mary passes. He and his supporters know that time is already running out to implement "The Revolution," and they they for SURE will not get the House back in Socialist hands before 2016, so he will essentially be stymied. So he resorts to (threatened) dictatorial pronouncement about some Small and Medium Things. Mostly as red meat for the base.
Yes, even of these constitutional indignities can erode a nation, but at this stage I think he won't be able to do TOO much permanent damage between golf rounds over the next 2.5 years.
Keep fighting! Keep holding the line!
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2014 01:25 AM (+cx5n)
I keep hoping that the next American President is going to take all the lawless bullshit we've had to endure over the last five years and shove it up their ass sideways stapled to a pineapple.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 09:29 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2014 01:26 AM (z4WKX)
I don't. Every time I see them they just keep getting older. All 3 of my siblings live within 10 miles of them so I know they are well taken care of, but as soon as I can I'll get closer to them.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:29 PM (yh0zB)
The damage will continue long after he is gone. It's not him I worry about so much, it's the thousands of minions he has in critical places, undermining everything.
But thanks for the cheery words.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 09:32 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:32 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 09:32 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:34 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 09:36 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 01:32 AM (MpP9p)
Actually my point is more that we don't have to congregate in the dank deep dingy heart of the city, there are places out there away from the metro area that have the convenience of having your conveyance right there outside the door without having to take public transportation or walk several blocks.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:37 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Reggie Love at January 28, 2014 09:37 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 09:38 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 28, 2014 09:39 PM (AymDN)
Saw Ronan Farrow's Twitter feed. He *liked* it, and he works for MSNBC.
Posted by: qdpsteve at January 28, 2014 09:39 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 09:39 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2014 09:40 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 29, 2014 01:29 AM (T1005)
....and just to be painfully clear. Let's say that Unions received a 4-year waiver for some Obamacare pain unilaterally declared in 2013....then there should be a 4-year waiver of this provision for EVERYONE *not* in a union in 2017 -- with the additional twist that, if overturned, the unions should pay back the benefits of their illegal 2013 waiver plus penalties and interest up to 2017.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 09:40 PM (T1005)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:41 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 09:41 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 09:43 PM (ojnk6)
Please make sure they are watching for that dreadful disease.
Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2014 01:40 AM (z4WKX)
I'm also the oddity in that I moved more than 50 miles away and stayed gone.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:43 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 09:46 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:46 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 29, 2014 01:43 AM (ojnk6)
+ less traffic
+ (usually) fewer A-holes
Call me paranoid if you wish but I usually go armed everywhere I go, and when I'm in the city I don't feel as if that's a good idea, so I don't really like to be around a bunch of crowds if I can't be armed. I didn't used to be like that...but I've been paying closer attention lately.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:46 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 01:46 AM (MpP9p)
aw, you're a sweetheart. Is SO coming to the next MoMe?
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:48 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 09:49 PM (T1005)
Posted by: irright at January 28, 2014 09:49 PM (DtNNC)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 09:49 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Carol at January 28, 2014 09:50 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 09:51 PM (Q6HBD)
zombie, I had the advantage of having the best parents in the whole world. Seriously, I could not have had better parents if I had been able to take a couple of years to pick them out myself. My Dad is still my hero, and when I grow up I want to be just like him.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:52 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:52 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2014 01:23 AM (yh0zB)
Chadwicks down on the water has a pay lot across the street which is essentially its own.
If you want to go rowdy, there is Nicks up at the other end of town, is ha its own parking.
Several places in Arlington have small lots, but you can't guarantee yourself a spot unless you start drinking at 4pm. Whitlows has an attached paylot which isnt dodgy.
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 09:52 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 09:53 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:53 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 09:54 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 09:54 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 09:55 PM (+cx5n)
I never ate just chili there, but liked getting the chili burgers. I just noticed that one of the locations has a Walking Dead night. Heh.Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 09:55 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 09:55 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 09:55 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 09:56 PM (+cx5n)
{{{Zombie}}}
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 01:53 AM (MpP9p)
Yeah, I'm a guy, so constrained.....but thoughts, hopes and good thoughts.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 09:58 PM (T1005)
OK, so some close relatives were from Dunmore, PA. Will have to check where the Hollywood neighborhood is. Though if there's one thing, or aura, or mystique, that Dunmore sure doesn't conjure up, it would be Hollywood.
Zombie. And irongrampa, who's of course asleep at this hour but of like mind.
You may be right. But I think you overlook that Obama is a reflection, a symptom, a result, not a cause. The guy was a nothing - and not interesting or talented or even articulate, notwithstanding the orwellian nonsense about all that - with no accomplishments and nothing to offer, and was swept easily into office in a country involved in a serious war for the first time in two generations. His first term was a disaster. Didn't matter - at all.
No damage in civic affairs is really "permanent". But again, he's symptom, not a cause. Zombie you live in the Bay area. Tell me that the political imbecility of those around you - including, heck even especially - that of many high-functioning successful tech types - is not "permanent".
To be brief, we are screwed not because of idiots like Obaman or vile cretins like Reid or Pelosi or Durbin - but because of our neighbors, acquaintances, and co-workers, who marinate in nonsense 24/7 ("news", NPR, acceptable social patter, popular culture, "education" environments, fucking sports media, hell even restaurant reviews), who lack any framework and mostly any disposition to think critically, and whose mindset is "American" in only vague and limited ways, by historical standards.
To top it off, you have an "opposition" party that, in the midst of grinding economic drudgery, a constitution being shredded almost daily (and flagrantly, with trash talk), serious scandals from A to Z (any one of which would have - rightly - paralyzed or ended any recent previous presidency), and an international situation that is deteriorating dramatically, gathers itself up and ....... wait for it ...... tries to push amnesty (itself a signal embodiment of many of the current pathologies - collapse of the rule of law, racism and race-baiting, vile rent-seeking displacing responsible citizenship).
So - sorry, cannot come close to sharing you optimistic analysis. Note: analysis. Optimism is a separate matter. Human events are inscrutable and unpredictable. But an optimistic analysis right now just doesn't follow from a cold look at the facts.
Posted by: non-purist at January 28, 2014 09:58 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 09:58 PM (Q6HBD)
Tell him its like a Robin Sage exercise, but we are all out of shape.
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 10:00 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2014 01:55 AM (+cx5n)
And I know that others have had it bad, but sometimes it's hard for me to fathom just how bad they have had it because I don't have a frame of reference for that. If you were to meet my Dad you would love him. Seriously you would, cause everybody does. I don't think he has an enemy in the entire world. Mom might have one or two, she was an old Nebraska farm girl and she's not so easy to fool. She has a wickedly subtle sense of humor.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:00 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Adriane... at January 28, 2014 10:00 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:00 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 10:01 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 01:55 AM (MpP9p)
Tell him an old retired squid would like to buy him a beer.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:02 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:03 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 10:03 PM (Q6HBD)
Can we drive like a-holes to get there?
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2014 02:03 AM (4JkHl)
I thought that was a requirement to drive in MD.
(I was stationed at Pax River for 3 years)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:04 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 10:04 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:04 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: RWC at January 28, 2014 10:05 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 02:03 AM (MpP9p)
Just smile and shrug. You can pull off cute. If he has any sense at all he'll just go with it.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:05 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 10:05 PM (X3GkB)
http://tinyurl.com/lg8tjrk (WZ)
Shark jumping. How does that work?
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 28, 2014 10:06 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 10:06 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 28, 2014 11:47 PM (RZ8pf)
Republican Party Reptile
Holidays in Hell
Parliament of Whores
Posted by: akula51 at January 28, 2014 11:50 PM (54dkR)
Give War a Chance (anthology)
Bachelor's Home Companion
And a must read from National Lampoon (MAR '79) "How to drive fast... "
http://tinyurl.com/24olmh
Posted by: Forty Baht Barack at January 28, 2014 10:08 PM (rVBP8)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 29, 2014 02:02 AM (yh0zB)
That would work.
But then...
"Why does my nametag say 'Mr. Vendette'?"
Posted by: Vendette at January 29, 2014 02:03 AM (MpP9p)
Try "BH" -- that seems to work for everyone who has met mine.
And thanks for the hug -- I'm a tremendous fan of Zombie, but I don't want to presume.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 28, 2014 10:08 PM (T1005)
Posted by: logprof at January 28, 2014 10:09 PM (X3GkB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:10 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 10:11 PM (+cx5n)
You know that's just 'blending in.' Posted by: RWC
In Alexandria, we are blending in. Conservatives are like tall nordic blondes in North Korea.
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 10:11 PM (4JkHl)
For the NoVA morons talking about meet-up spots, is Whitey's still there? Always loved that name - and the place was a decent dive bar.
Kind of amazed that Hard Times is still going - not a comment on the place, just on the odds of a restaurant lasting so long.
Parking. I clearly remember the early 90s, when Arlington was the place to go for dinner from DC, because you could just drive up and park just about anywhere. Before the insane boom that completely transformed the Roslyn-Ballston corridor.
Haven't been inside the Beltway for 7 years. Very idea of it gives me the creeps - after living there for more than 25 years. Haven't exactly told old friends, but I think they're sensing some of the alienation (whose depth and intensity they surely cannot imagine).
Posted by: non-purist at January 28, 2014 10:11 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:13 PM (MpP9p)
Zombie, I'm sorry that you didn't have the luck GGE and I had in the parents lottery, but if you flip it around....my dad is my rock. He's 79. My mom is my conscience. She's 80. I'm 46 years old and I've always, ALWAYS had them to fall back on. When they go it'll be a whole new world for me. That's not good or bad or even saying that I had it better than you or that I'm not a fully functional adult because of it, but there is a certain fundamental strength one gets when all the safety nets are gone that I haven't had to find in myself yet. I suspect that you've tapped into that long since. It's not better or worse but it is something you have that I don't. Lemons and lemonade.Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2014 10:15 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 10:15 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2014 02:11 AM (+cx5n)
Actually that says a lot for your character. Also, it puts me in mind of that Indiana Jones scene where Sean Connery was talking about giving him freedom as a child. So there you go, all you need is a hat and a bullwhip.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:18 PM (yh0zB)
Long gone.
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 10:20 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Adriane... at January 28, 2014 10:20 PM (qoKTg)
Goes to a party one night, was driven there by his son. He vanishes for about an hour. Comes back later covered in lipstick. Announces that he is going to Paris for a month with his fiance in August. Did so, and is now married to a female attorney 40 years his junior.
This guy is a real inspiration to me.
Posted by: navybrat at January 28, 2014 10:21 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 29, 2014 02:15 AM (N/cFh)
y'know...my brother's name is Dave...and he's kinda...weird...
but he lives in Iowa.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:21 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 10:21 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Adriane... at January 28, 2014 10:21 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:22 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:24 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 10:25 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Adriane... at January 28, 2014 10:26 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 10:26 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: navybrat at January 29, 2014 02:21 AM (AW7Gr)
bang bitches eryday #420blazeitforjesus
Posted by: The Dude at January 28, 2014 10:27 PM (bStrg)
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2014 02:21 AM (+cx5n)
I will not weep for you since you obviously do not need it. But, I will applaud you. Very well done.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:27 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:28 PM (MpP9p)
Jean and Vendette, thanks. Was never a regular @ Whitey's, just curious.
Things changed so much, so fast. I recall having one free evening during a stopover in DC during a home leave from Iraq. Was at a hotel in Tyson's (to be close to Dulles). Called a friend, asked if he could come my way from Old Town for dinner. He sort of guffawed, and pointed out that traffic (it was 5 PM) meant he couldn't really do it before my jet lag put me down hard. A few years before such a thing was inconceivable.
ManWithNoParty, thanks for your kind words. But my analysis, while reasonable, is pretty poisonous. I don't "hate" political figures I've never met (nor even most that I have). But retaining respect for people I know, when they are part of the problem, is proving impossible, with predictable dire social consequences.
Night all. Off to give "Savage Continent" one last chance before its NPR-stupid moral imbecility forces me to recycle it and finally finish the tome on Pacific theater naval aviation (The First Team).
Posted by: non-purist at January 28, 2014 10:32 PM (afQnV)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 10:34 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 29, 2014 02:34 AM (ojnk6)
In my case I'll pre-blame Redd's Strawberry Ale.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:37 PM (yh0zB)
He is 84, has all of his hair, although it is white. He is rakish thin. He spends a lot of money on his clothes, which are always the very best. At any time you may meet him, he is wearing $1500 to $2000 in clothing. Probably $500 just for the shoes. His mind is sharp and from all evidence the pencil still has a goodly amount of lead in it. And now on wife number three.
Posted by: navybrat at January 28, 2014 10:37 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2014 10:38 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2014 02:32 AM (4JkHl)
Bannion and Vendette pretty much assembled the last one and did an excellent job. I'm still hoping to get something together for the Carolinas sometime this spring.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:38 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:40 PM (MpP9p)
You can sneak out of Old Town - up Seminary, then back streets over to Oak St, then to Gallow - to avoid Bailey Xroads and 7corners and make Tysons in about 45min. Gotta have old school map skills, your gps will send up on a 90+ min slog.
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 10:40 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 28, 2014 10:40 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 10:42 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 10:42 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: Jean at January 28, 2014 10:42 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: Adriane... at January 28, 2014 10:44 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: Vendette at January 28, 2014 10:45 PM (MpP9p)
Posted by: Adriane... at January 28, 2014 10:48 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: zombie at January 28, 2014 10:48 PM (+cx5n)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 10:51 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2014 02:48 AM (+cx5n)
It's not the heights that bother me. Falling, that concerns me a bit...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:55 PM (yh0zB)
Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 28, 2014 10:56 PM (yh0zB)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 28, 2014 11:00 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Adriane is easily confused ... at January 28, 2014 11:01 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: model_1066 at January 28, 2014 11:02 PM (LIQGY)
Is there a web site you can go to and look up how much income the Smith family had in 1968 and the following years, and how do they know 'Ted Smith' got married and had kids? Somebody tracks that data?
I'm not talking about demographics where a million kids were born, and fifty years later 6 or 60 of them are rich and famous. Even then, how do these researchers know that those six made that money? Census data is supposed to be anonymous, right? So in 1978 blah, blah, blah, blah. How do they know where Ted Smith is in that census data for 1978, 1942, 1990, 2014?
Ah hell, how do these researches know that Ted Smith, born in rural Mississippi, moved to Northern California, and lived poor all his life? How do these researchers know that Ted Smith's brother Frank stayed in rural Mississippi?
Posted by: Ted Smith at January 28, 2014 11:27 PM (7P6z2)
Posted by: Votermom at January 29, 2014 01:02 AM (GSIDW)
Dictatorships, LOOK efficient but because of corruption, in fighting amongst the inner circle and ignorance fostered by nepotism and (in our case) affirmative action usually results in a government that reacts slowly, badly and ineffectively.
They can be very destructive to the country. Like a large parasite that doesn't have control of it's impulses.
We've got a prime example developing before our very eyes.
The only real question is who will be the first target of the regime's inclination to kill those who are in the way?
The noveau riche or the elderly and weak.
I'm betting noveau riche first cause like Willy Sutton said once; "That's where the money is".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 29, 2014 01:17 AM (LSDdO)
chaos, confusion, and something , something oh my!
http://preview.tinyurl.com/kydxvoj
Atlanta journal-constitution
Oh the weather outside is frightful,
mum na hhmmm na so delightful
let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.
Posted by: Rashid al Rancini at January 29, 2014 01:45 AM (Wldtx)
Posted by: Steve at January 29, 2014 02:26 AM (wk+th)
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2014 02:31 AM (/VASf)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 29, 2014 05:17 AM (LSDdO)
You can bet the Executive Order. and probably final draft legislation, are already printed and ready to go to effect Enhanced National Financial Fairness Via Fiscal Health by implementing accelerated Liverpool Path Care for everyone over 67 with immediate confiscation of all assets of anyone that has ever drawn a dime from Social Security, MediCaid, or MediCare, all for the Middle Class of course.
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 29, 2014 04:05 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: skinny at January 29, 2014 06:19 AM (dt2qx)
"Why does rural Arkansas look like a beacon of upward mobility"
Well, if they knew anything about "rural" Arkansas they might know that the NW part, which is the place that shows good mobility, is the home of Walmart, Tyson and several other large companies (and a big school). Rodgers and Fayetteville have good economies and show up on many lists of good places to live. The part that shows bad motility is mostly the much poorer delta. I totally buy the arkansas component of this map.
Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2014 06:45 AM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2014 06:47 AM (lIU4e)
Shows up for me on lower right. Course I lean right so it really stood out, being on the right and being called left!
Posted by: Tortuga at January 29, 2014 07:26 AM (FmyWU)
Sam Walton went to the University of Missouri. He took a five and dime store and built that into Wal-Mart. But President Putt, who went to Harvard, says people like Walton didn't build it. The government built it.
People need to take preconceived notions they have gotten from the news media and plain old propaganda with a grain of salt. The media and the government lies to us endlessly every day. Schools teach as much crap as facts. As adults it's up to us to sift through what is truth and bullsh*t.
Posted by: Case at January 29, 2014 11:22 PM (wf3Kt)
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