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February 16, 2014

Overnight Open Thread (2-16-2014)
— Maetenloch

Despite no opposition from management the UAW still couldn't convince Tennessee VW workers to unionize.

The United Auto Workers Union suffered a devastating defeat on Friday, when its attempt to organize the workers at the Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga failed on a vote of 712-626 (53-47 percent). The company had agreed not to resist the organizing effort and gave the union access to the plant and its workers. If the union couldn't win an election under those conditions, it is a powerful sign of how weak, indeed toxic, unions have become in recent years. If the UAW couldn't win this election, it seems doubtful it can win any election.

Well sure join up with the UAW if you love what they've done to Detroit car manufacturing.

Plus it turns out that even at the height of union membership it wasn't close to a majority of US workers.

But they have become increasingly weak everywhere. In the early 1950s union membership in the private sector peaked at about 35 percent of the work force. Today it is about 6 percent.

At the current rate we'll soon have more gays than private sector union members.

Even Punkers Get the California Blues

According to Reason magazine Exene Cervenka of the L.A. punk band, X, is moving to Texas because California has become 'A Liberal Oppressive Police State and Regulations and Taxes and Fees.'.

...when I moved to California in 1976, Jerry Brown was governor. It was barefoot hippie girls, Hell's Angels on the Sunset Strip, East L.A. lowriders, the ocean and nature. It was this fabulous incredible place about freedom. Now when I think about California, I think of a liberal oppressive police state and regulations and taxes and fees. I'd rather go someplace and have my own little place out on the edge of town. I'm a country girl at heart. It makes me happy when I see people in Texas open-carrying. It makes me feel safe. I'm not even a gun owner, but I'd like to see a gun rack in every pickup truck, like my boyfriend had when I was fifteen years old in Florida. An armed society is a polite society."

She cracks a smile. "Now Jerry Brown's governor again. He's done some great things, like balancing the budget and libraries are open on Sundays. But things are getting to the point in this country where people are going to have to fight to survive and fight for their rights."

And more Gone-to-Texas: California's Leaders Are Watching the Wealthy's Movements

Since over 40% of California's income tax revenues now come from the top 1% of tax filers, the state is nervously watching to see if the frogs will jump out of the pot after the top state tax rate was jacked to 13.3%.

Lee Schneider, a hedge fund salesman who works from home, also cited Prop. 30 as the "deciding factor" for his move from Walnut Creek to Austin, Texas, in 2012. The California native had recently built a $2 million house at the foot of Mount Diablo and took a loss on the sale, but "I can make half of it back in one year of tax savings," he says.

Schneider's neighborhood in Texas, which has no state income tax, is full of cars with license-plate frames from California dealerships. On a flight from Austin to Los Angeles shortly before Christmas, 11 of the 12 seats in the emergency row were occupied by people who had moved from California to Texas, he says.

Another ObamaCare Success: It Costs Hawaii $56,819 To Sign Up Each Enrollee

At that price why not just give them a free health care plan AND a new car.

How much does it cost taxpayers to sign up one ObamaCare enrollee? In President Obama's home state of Hawaii, it's $56,819.

The Obama administration gave Hawaii $205 million in grants over the past three years to set up its state-run exchange. But so far, only 3,614 Hawaiians have filled out applications - just 40% of the state's enrollment goal.

Thomas Frank Still Doesn't Get Kansas

But these days he's damn bitter about it and still can't quite accept the idea that conservative ideas better reflect the views of KS working people than those of the liberal elite.

For the ruling faction of the Democratic party, meanwhile, I felt like the Kansas story triggered a bout of guilty conscience. To begin with, there was something true at the core of all the conservative bullshit: we really are ruled by a meritocratic, professional elite - just look at the members of the president's cabinet, or who gets interviewed on NPR - and a great number of meritocratic believers really are found in the ranks of the Democrats. As a party, they are openly in love with expertise; it is who they are; it means more to them than any ideology. It's the awful story of "The Best and the Brightest" repeating itself over and over and over again.

Dum and Dumer: The David Frum Story

Frum's transition to full-on liberal continues. Full-on gun control advocacy - check.

Hypothesis: the people who most want to carry are the very last people on earth who should be allowed to carry.

- davidfrum (@davidfrum) February 16, 2014

Mass murderer Anders Breivik Threatens Hunger Strike Unless He Gets Newer, Better Video Games

Okay his offer is accepted.

Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik threatened to go on hunger strike for better video games and other perks to alleviate his "torture"-like prison conditions, in a letter received by AFP Friday. .

...He also demanded the replacement of a PlayStation 2 games console for a more recent PS3 "with access to more adult games that I get to choose myself" as well as a sofa or armchair instead of a "painful" chair.

Can You Spot the Sniper?

Russian Brides Part XIV: The Future Heartbreakening

Sochi: The Driest Olympics Ever?

So Russia is dealing with their alcohol problem by making it difficult for visiting foreigners to have a drink.

Russia, whose most famous export may be vodka, is staging the driest Olympics in memory. For many fans, it is the biggest upset of the Winter Games. A new federal law last year prohibited the sale of alcohol inside sports stadiums and arenas. And a local ordinance last month banned alcohol sales within 50 meters of some sports venues.

...Alcohol sales restrictions were a deterrent to potential beer sponsors. Heineken was the official beer of the London and Athens Summer Games but had never sponsored the Winter Olympics. "I must say that, Sochi, we weren't too keen to become the sponsor of the Winter Olympics," and alcohol restrictions were one consideration, said Hans Erik Tuijt, the company's Global Director of Activation.

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1 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 06:38 PM (T1005)

2 Evening.

Posted by: NCKate at February 16, 2014 06:39 PM (1FoIf)

3 I'm not on the list! I'm not on the list!

And the BH and I got in a nice, healthy, two-hour walk today.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 06:40 PM (T1005)

4 It wasn't just that there was no opposition from management at VW, there was active support for the union by management.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 06:40 PM (DmNpO)

5 She cracks a smile. "Now Jerry Brown's governor again. He's done some great things, like balancing the budget and libraries are open on Sundays."

Based on what she's smokin', she ought to be moving to Colorado.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 16, 2014 06:41 PM (U82Km)

6 "You will jog for the master race..."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 16, 2014 06:41 PM (V4CBV)

7 Despite no opposition from management the UAW still couldn't convince Tennessee VW workers to unionize.

By tomorrow morning Barry and Holder will step in and force them unionize

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2014 06:43 PM (FE/sZ)

8 R-Rated movie scenes drawn in the style of a cute kidÂ’s book http://tinyurl.com/la2j7rm

Posted by: Thrawn at February 16, 2014 06:43 PM (WlWt+)

9 Good Evening & I should probably add a good night because I have been too tired this week to stay awake until midnight.

Posted by: Carol at February 16, 2014 06:43 PM (z4WKX)

10 Now that everyone is job-unlocked we are expecting a surge in membership applications. We're really going to raise our voices in protest, for the um...non-workers! (We still are not sure which union the banjo players will be joining.)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon,United Mime Workers Local #555 at February 16, 2014 06:43 PM (g4TxM)

11 ~~Dum and Dumer~~ Frum and Frumer: The David Frum Story I can hardly wait to read about the part where, like Keef, Soledad and Martin, David reflects how he's frum a job in journalism.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 16, 2014 06:44 PM (FlRtG)

12 Welcome back Maet. Were you been?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 16, 2014 06:44 PM (0FSuD)

13 Cthulhu, How are you doing?

Posted by: Carol at February 16, 2014 06:45 PM (z4WKX)

14 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2014 06:46 PM (JMmQ9)

15 We generally train those guys not to hide inside the red circles.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon,United Snipers Union Local #30-06 at February 16, 2014 06:46 PM (g4TxM)

16 12 Welcome back Maet. Were you been?

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 16, 2014 10:44 PM (0FSuD)

Um around - like usual. Doing stuff. And things.

Posted by: Mætenloch at February 16, 2014 06:47 PM (XkotV)

17 Great, so all the productive people will move to Texas and all the stoners will move here to Colorado.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon,United Snipers Union Local #30-06 at February 16, 2014 06:48 PM (g4TxM)

18 Well, that ***** needs a good *#$($*#)$**@(#)$*@) for that Bode Miller interview.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 06:49 PM (GEICT)

19 Fuck the Californians. They voted for these scumbags and now they're fleeing to Texas, Colorado, and elsewhere? To hell with them. They should be forced to wallow in the filth that they helped create.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 16, 2014 06:49 PM (lr3d7)

20 **remove union sock label**

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 16, 2014 06:49 PM (g4TxM)

21 fuck-ola, that ski jump pic is krazy My balls are not big enough at this time to Olympic ski jump

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 06:50 PM (q0r5L)

22 Californians: Stay the fuck out. Sincerely, Texas p.s. morons excepted

Posted by: Republic of Texas 2: Electric Boogaloo at February 16, 2014 06:50 PM (Gk2GE)

23 Gay is the new black.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2014 06:50 PM (KGCtJ)

24 The bit about meritocracy is crap.

It's not merit or expertise that the Dems are in love with it's credentialism.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at February 16, 2014 06:51 PM (IVgIK)

25 Dang. There are some fine Russkie ladies in that pictorial. Those women sure do know how to take care of their men, and compared to the drunk assholes over there, they would consider me the top of the heap. Bonus, no "duckfaces" from them.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 16, 2014 06:51 PM (HxSXm)

26 13 Cthulhu,

How are you doing? Posted by: Carol at February 16, 2014 10:45 PM (z4WKX) Hide posts from (z4WKX)

Doing ok. Decided a couple of nights ago that I need to go on a bit of a health kick.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 06:51 PM (T1005)

27 That David Frum is one smart chicken fucker.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2014 06:51 PM (KGCtJ)

28 #6 Dang. California Uber Alles reference already. Beat me to it.

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at February 16, 2014 06:51 PM (RRbuy)

29 Exene and John Doe and Bonebreaker.. Had to pleasure to meet all those *nice* folks back in the day .. X ..

Posted by: Chamuco at February 16, 2014 06:51 PM (qQk+U)

30 Man, I can't really say I see the sniper even WITH the circle. I think I can see the barrel of the rifle, but not the human attached to it.

Posted by: Y-not at February 16, 2014 06:51 PM (zDsvJ)

31 Um around - like usual. Doing stuff. And things. Posted by: MÃ¦tenloch at February 16, 2014 10:47 PM (XkotV) **** You mean like out in the real world? What's the word for that...? Oh, yeah, maetspace!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 16, 2014 06:51 PM (g4TxM)

32 Coconut oil arrived frozen & I put in front of radiator last night. I had to open it while I was brushing my teeth & carried from living room to bathroom & opened in hall early this afternoon on my way out. it was liquid & went all over carpet. I had an appointment & in a hurry & threw a towel on it. I expected a mess when I came home but carpet is fine. I put on my face about 8:30 or a bit later. It is more like a thick cream and I thought I was going to wash off because of smell but it disappeared.

Posted by: Carol at February 16, 2014 06:52 PM (z4WKX)

33 oh yeah and Billy Zoom

Posted by: Chamuco at February 16, 2014 06:52 PM (qQk+U)

34 Get ready for lefty heads to explode Anonymous ‏@YourAnonNews 21m Rupert Murdoch receives $882m tax rebate from #Australia: http://t.co/W4NbMiBSTW

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 06:52 PM (DmNpO)

35 25 Dang. There are some fine Russkie ladies in that pictorial. Those women sure do know how to take care of their men, and compared to the drunk assholes over there, they would consider me the top of the heap. Right up until your kidneys go missing. Haha!!!

Posted by: EC at February 16, 2014 06:52 PM (doBIb)

36 19 Fuck the Californians. They voted for these scumbags and now they're fleeing to Texas, Colorado, and elsewhere? To hell with them. They should be forced to wallow in the filth that they helped create.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 16, 2014 10:49 PM (lr3d7) Hide posts from (lr3d7)

Ahem. Some of us have been voting consistently against it and have been screwed, blued, and tattooed for our trouble.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 06:53 PM (T1005)

37 7 Despite no opposition from management the UAW still couldn't convince Tennessee VW workers to unionize. By tomorrow morning Barry and Holder will step in and force them unionize Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2014 10:43 PM (FE/sZ) Don't worry. They will find a container of ballots in the back of the UAW organizer's car tonight that will put them over the top.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 16, 2014 06:53 PM (HxSXm)

38 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=5081

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 16, 2014 06:53 PM (AymDN)

39 being a moron, would like to see a selfi of the ski jump pic girl whos legs are so fascinating..

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 06:53 PM (q0r5L)

40 27 That David Frum is one smart chicken fucker. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2014 10:51 PM (KGCtJ) Not really, his dick is too small and he comes too quickly. All of which is OK with me.

Posted by: The Chicken at February 16, 2014 06:53 PM (0FSuD)

41
Exene Cervenka of the L.A. punk band, X, is moving to Texas because California has become 'A Liberal Oppressive Police State and Regulations and Taxes and Fees.'.

She had to get out

get out (get out)

get out (get out)

*thump* *thump* *thump* *thump* *twang*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 16, 2014 06:55 PM (kdS6q)

42 Hollywood Was Always Hollywood Shirley Temple Black passed away this month. She was not only an accomplished child actress, but a well respected U. S. Ambassador. With Dylan Farrow accusing Woody Allen of molesting her, or Roman PolanskiÂ‘s infamous rape of a minor, Shirley TempleÂ’s time in Hollywood makes one pine for the days before people like Allen or Polanski could act with seeming impunity. Alas, a N. Y. Times article on Shirley TempleÂ’s passing mentions several items, including "Baby Burlesks" and a Hollywood bigwig who exposed himself to her, that demonstrate that there was no innocent age: Hollywood was always Hollywood More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=5069

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 16, 2014 06:55 PM (AymDN)

43 Yes, it was the middle one.

Posted by: unsuccessful sniper school at February 16, 2014 06:55 PM (vAnfs)

44 Right up until your kidneys go missing. Haha!!! Posted by: EC at February 16, 2014 10:52 PM (doBIb) But I got 4 kidneys!!!!!!

Posted by: Dewey Crowe at February 16, 2014 06:55 PM (HxSXm)

45 Public sector unions are what's killing the country, private sector unions are a dead man walking.

We need a FEDERAL right-to-work law that applies to all 50 states. Use the tax code if we have to.

Posted by: Uniden at February 16, 2014 06:55 PM (13G+x)

46 39 being a moron, would like to see a selfi of the ski jump pic girl whos legs are so fascinating.. Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 10:53 PM (q0r5L) There was a ski jump in the picture?

Posted by: Dewey Crowe at February 16, 2014 06:56 PM (HxSXm)

47 The problem with the Californians is they come to Texas and try to turn it into California by voting the same way they did in California. Duh! Where do you think all the leftist "let's turn Texas blue" are coming from? Not from thin air.

Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 06:57 PM (PGO8C)

48 We need a FEDERAL right-to-work law that applies to all 50 states. Use the tax code if we have to. Posted by: Uniden at February 16, 2014 10:55 PM (13G+x) you will go far bro

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 06:57 PM (q0r5L)

49 Now for some SERIOUS news! http://tinyurl.com/p6jy3z4

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 16, 2014 06:58 PM (0FSuD)

50 If all the assholes would move to Texas, California would have a decent shot at recovery.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2014 06:58 PM (KGCtJ)

51 President Barack Obama is praising University of Missouri football player Michael Sam for announcing he is gay before the NFL draft.

Sam responded by asking Barry when he's coming out

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2014 06:58 PM (FE/sZ)

52 "Despite no opposition from management the UAW still couldn't convince Tennessee VW workers to unionize." When foreign car companies started building auto plants here, if it hadn't been for the UAW, Michigan should have gotten those plants. Michigan had everything they needed in place. Experienced automotive engineers, automotive management, marketing people, colleges specializing in automotive engineering, laborers, transportation, parts manufacturers salivating over new customers. The one negative was the UAW, with their mentality of "screw the company". Back when GM was thriving and UAW workers were the most over-paid unskilled workers on the planet, you should have heard the way they talked about their jobs and "Generous Motors". I would listen to GM workers talk about how, if they did piece work, they could get their quota done so easily that they had hours to waste. And the union prevented the plant from increasing the quotas. They deliberately kept the assembly lines slow. So in the seventies and eighties, college educated Michiganders, who earned less then unskilled GM workers, bought Japanese cars with no remorse. The big 3 started moving toward robotics, and built more and more plants out of the country. My brother's ex-father in law was plant manager of a GM plant that was in Mexico. He and his family lived in Texas, I believe El Paso. The UAW members with seniority have screwed over members with less seniority so that they can keep what they have at the expense of younger workers. The UAW cut their own throats, now they want to inflict the same damage on other auto companies. The employees in Tennessee are to smart to fall for it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2014 06:59 PM (mHWo2)

53 The Obama administration gave Hawaii $205 million in grants over the past three years to set up its state-run exchange. But so far, only 3,614 Hawaiians have filled out applications - just 40% of the state's enrollment goal. We spent $205 million only intending to sign up 9000 people? Holy f'n shite, that only makes sense to a politician.

Posted by: --- at February 16, 2014 06:59 PM (MMC8r)

54 46 Off you methed out sock

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 16, 2014 07:00 PM (HxSXm)

55 fuck-ola,

that ski jump pic is krazy

My balls are not big enough at this time to Olympic ski jump

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 10:50 PM (q0r5L)

Mine could go red giant and they still wouldn't be big enough

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2014 07:00 PM (FMbng)

56 The problem with the Californians is they come to Texas and try to turn it into California by voting the same way they did in California. Duh! Where do you think all the leftist "let's turn Texas blue" are coming from? Not from thin air. Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 10:57 PM (PGO8C) same with UT, ID, MT, WY fuck those chicken fuckers just like David Frum ~~fucks[\s] CHOAKES his chicken~~

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:00 PM (q0r5L)

57 I like to see so many freedom-loving people move to Texas. However it really worries me that the libtards who move there will start voting the same way that ruined the states that they are leaving.

:wq!

Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at February 16, 2014 07:00 PM (SS8WM)

58 test

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:00 PM (q0r5L)

59 finally finishing up listening to the AoSHQ podcast from this past Friday...CAC was less annoying than I thought he'd be. Good show.

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2014 07:00 PM (JMmQ9)

60 47 The problem with the Californians is they come to Texas and try to turn it into California by voting the same way they did in California. Duh! Where do you think all the leftist "let's turn Texas blue" are coming from? Not from thin air. Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 10:57 PM (PGO8C) Hide posts from (PGO8C)

Well, if I were to move to Texas and vote the exact same way I have voted here for 30 years, it wouldn't be turning anything blue.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 07:00 PM (T1005)

61 Dig her blue tennies.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at February 16, 2014 07:01 PM (4Chvm)

62 #6 Dang. California Uber Alles reference already. Beat me to it. Posted by: Navin R Johnson at February 16, 2014 10:51 PM (RRbuy) I'd rather have a holiday in Cambodia than a holiday in OaklandÂ…

Posted by: The Khmer Hat at February 16, 2014 07:01 PM (AymDN)

63 NDH, I was having hair done this afternoon & on Twitter when I saw that you said you werenÂ’t going to retweet something from CAC to read TL? Where is it? Michele, my hair stylist as Seamrog & Yankee Fifth know, needed me & I couldnÂ’t find a link or why republicans spent so much money. Tweet to me if you have it & I will read tomorrow. Thank you.

Posted by: Carol at February 16, 2014 07:03 PM (z4WKX)

64 And on Spike is the 1987 Robocop movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 16, 2014 07:04 PM (chh9K)

65 Well, if I were to move to Texas and vote the exact same way I have voted here for 30 years, it wouldn't be turning anything blue. Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:00 PM (T1005) As a refugee from the People's Republic of California, I agree that there are plenty of people who escaped to states that were sane, and probably will to more to keep them sane because they've seen the consequences. OTOH, people are right to fear most Californians, since the "elite" Leftist ones are like locusts.

Posted by: The Golden Hat at February 16, 2014 07:04 PM (AymDN)

66 "Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik threatened to go on hunger strike for better video games and other perks to alleviate his "torture"-like prison conditions, in a letter received by AFP Friday. . " Is that the guy who hunted down little kids at a camp as they tried to swim away? So, encourage the hunger strike. Then after he's been on it awhile, go into his room and eat fried chicken and t-bone steaks in front of him. How can you look at a guy like that and NOT want capital punishment?

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2014 07:04 PM (mHWo2)

67 Give David Frum a chicken and he eats for a day. Teach David Frum to fuck a chicken and he has a career at the New York Times for the rest of his life.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2014 07:05 PM (KGCtJ)

68 I've been watching the Jeremy Irons / secular-Turk 2004 documentary on the Hittites. It's quite good. It even looks at the commoners (the high-point of the HBO "Rome" series).

Now, since we've all been teased with the geography of Anatolia and the glimpses of everyday Bronze Age life - can we please have a live-action update of the "Red River" manga?

We can keep the cute Japanese (or Korean) time-traveling actress to explain it all for modern audiences. I am willing to concede on that. It'll be hard - I mean, I will find it difficult, but I can make the sacrifice.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 16, 2014 07:05 PM (30eLQ)

69 Now Jerry Brown's governor again. The words to her "The New World" are so funny to read now.

Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 07:05 PM (FcR7P)

70 It's not merit or expertise that the Dems are in love with it's credentialism. Precisely. They confuse pedigree for accomplishment.

Posted by: --- at February 16, 2014 07:05 PM (MMC8r)

71 NDH, I was having hair done this afternoon & on Twitter when I saw that you said you werenÂ’t going to retweet something from CAC to read TL? Where is it? Michele, my hair stylist as Seamrog & Yankee Fifth know, needed me & I couldnÂ’t find a link or why republicans spent so much money. Tweet to me if you have it & I will read tomorrow. Thank yo *** I included his twitter address to follow along with his rant. It was too much to RT it all.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 07:06 PM (DmNpO)

72 Awesome Monday coming around. Got a lousy head cold, which is gravitating to my chest and a forecast of freezing rain starting about 2 a.m. Plus girlie issues, which I'm in no mood to discuss here. At least my house is clean.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at February 16, 2014 07:06 PM (4Chvm)

73 And on Spike is the 1987 Robocop movie. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 16, 2014 11:04 PM (chh9K) That movie is so unbelievable. I mean, really, who in their right mind would accept the utopia that Detroit shown to be in the movies to be real? If only we had a beneficent corporation like Omni-corp to build a glittering Delta City for us!

Posted by: The Robo-Hat at February 16, 2014 07:06 PM (AymDN)

74 Yep, here in Austin you see BMWs with Cali plates every single day. The problem is that a lot of them come in with ideas about how to change Texas. You don't change Texas. You sit down, shut up, and thank God (yes, God) that we allowed you the chance to prove yourself worthy of being called a Texan. If you're itching to change a state, Colorado is much prettier than Texas. You should go there. (Sorry, Colorado...I support the northern counties' secession efforts)

Posted by: Lauren at February 16, 2014 07:07 PM (hFL/3)

75 17 Great, so all the productive people will move to Texas and all the stoners will move here to Colorado. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon,United Snipers Union Local #30-06 at February 16, 2014 10:48 PM (g4TxM)
Every one's a winner.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 16, 2014 07:07 PM (kVfSG)

76 Alton, I enjoyed podcast.

Posted by: Carol at February 16, 2014 07:07 PM (z4WKX)

77 Victor Davis Hanson has some amusing suggestions to rescue California. http://tinyurl.com/l3ppfxj

Posted by: tmitsss at February 16, 2014 07:07 PM (Pa9vP)

78 Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik threatened to go on hunger strike for better video games and other perks to alleviate his "torture"-like prison conditions, in a letter received by AFP Friday. . Which means he already has video games. A mass murderer has video games in jail.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 07:07 PM (GEICT)

79 How can you look at a guy like that and NOT want capital punishment? Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2014 11:04 PM (mHWo2) well, if you are amoral, he did kill a bunch of future communists.... and yanked the shit out of the power elite's focus in Norge

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:08 PM (q0r5L)

80 Here's his twitter address. He went off today about GOP spending. https://twitter.com/ConArtCritic

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 07:08 PM (DmNpO)

81 Just finished watching House of Cards. Impressive. Can't wait for season 3.

Posted by: mpfs at February 16, 2014 07:08 PM (ObgcE)

82 50 If all the assholes would move to Texas, California would have a decent shot at recovery. Posted by: Cicero No thanks, you can keep your assholes. In fact, Texas, Utah, Idaho, Colorado, et al. Propose building a fence along the north - south state lines of Washington/Oregon/California from Canada to Mexico. All those in favor say Aye.

Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 07:08 PM (PGO8C)

83 I don't read articles in Salon and I'm not going to make an exception for Thomas Frank. Even The Nation can be interesting. Salon pieces, though, are always too infused with either bias, bitterness, or hysteria to be worthwhile.

As far as Frank's general premise on Kansas, even when Republicans have been elected there, they're often aren't that conservative

Posted by: AD at February 16, 2014 07:08 PM (E31Rf)

84 Feliz dia de los presidentes en la maÃ±ana, muchachos y muchachas! Y buenos noches.

Posted by: Hey-zeus Muldoonado at February 16, 2014 07:08 PM (g4TxM)

85 "Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik threatened to go on hunger strike for better video games and other perks to alleviate his "torture"-like prison conditions, in a letter received by AFP Friday. . " Is that the guy who hunted down little kids at a camp as they tried to swim away? So, encourage the hunger strike. Then after he's been on it awhile, go into his room and eat fried chicken and t-bone steaks in front of him. How can you look at a guy like that and NOT want capital punishment? Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2014 11:04 PM (mHWo2) Forget it Jake, it's ~~Chinatown~~ NorwayÂ…

Posted by: Norwegian Hat (The bird with a cute little top-hat has flown) at February 16, 2014 07:09 PM (AymDN)

86 only 3,614 Hawaiians have filled out applications - just 40% of the state's enrollment goal. $205 million and 9,000 was their lofty goal? Well, it's only money...

Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 07:09 PM (FcR7P)

87 Cicero, Those are not smart chickens Frum is banging, they are rubber chickens.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at February 16, 2014 07:10 PM (hpgw1)

88 All those in favor say Aye. Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 11:08 PM (PGO8C) mutha fucka, fence off California and Mexico and the USA will be a better place.

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:11 PM (q0r5L)

89 66 "Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik threatened to go on hunger strike for better video games and other perks to alleviate his "torture"-like prison conditions, in a letter received by AFP Friday. . "

Is that the guy who hunted down little kids at a camp as they tried to swim away? So, encourage the hunger strike. Then after he's been on it awhile, go into his room and eat fried chicken and t-bone steaks in front of him.

How can you look at a guy like that and NOT want capital punishment? Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2014 11:04 PM (mHWo2) Hide posts from (mHWo2)

There are types of insanity that should, potentially, rule out capital punishment......but I don't believe any of them apply in this case. He's just the beneficiary of the incredibly naivete of the Swedish "justice" system.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 07:12 PM (T1005)

90 "$205 million and 9,000 was their lofty goal? Well, it's only money.." I noticed that too. Well, I guess Hawaii needed to find a way to compete with Sochi since they weren't sending any olympians.

Posted by: Lauren at February 16, 2014 07:12 PM (hFL/3)

91 Aye.

Posted by: mpfs at February 16, 2014 07:12 PM (ObgcE)

92 Mmm. Noches.

Posted by: homer simpson at February 16, 2014 07:12 PM (vAnfs)

93 Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik threatened to go on hunger strike for better video games The humanitarian in me wants to feed him his own limbs.

Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 07:13 PM (FcR7P)

94 So, encourage the hunger strike. Then after he's been on it awhile, go into his room and eat fried chicken and t-bone steaks in front of him. How can you look at a guy like that and NOT want capital punishment? Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2014 11:04 PM w Biscuits and gravy. If you're gonna fcuk with a death row inmate on his last day....

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2014 07:13 PM (JMmQ9)

95 Of course, we'd give amnesty to conservatives and constitutional libertarians.

Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 07:14 PM (PGO8C)

96 We need to copy the prison system of Norwegia!

Posted by: touré syndrome at February 16, 2014 07:14 PM (vAnfs)

97 If I move to Texas, Colorado, or Utah I'm doing to escape taxes and all these assholes from the northeast who have moved to California. It's just making the state worse than it already is.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 16, 2014 07:14 PM (WdbF7)

98 Yep, here in Austin you see BMWs with Cali plates every single day. The problem is that a lot of them come in with ideas about how to change Texas. You don't change Texas. You sit down, shut up, and thank God (yes, God) that we allowed you the chance to prove yourself worthy of being called a Texan. If you're itching to change a state, Colorado is much prettier than Texas. You should go there. (Sorry, Colorado...I support the northern counties' secession efforts) Posted by: Lauren at February 16, 2014 11:07 PM (hFL/3) Heed the prophetic words of those who come to warn you of of the mistakes that destroyed Gomorrah CaliforniaÂ…

Posted by: The Prophetic Hat at February 16, 2014 07:14 PM (AymDN)

99 Victor Davis Hanson has some amusing suggestions to rescue California. http://tinyurl.com/l3ppfxj Posted by: tmitsss at February 16, 2014 11:07 PM (Pa9vP) I'd pay money to get initiatives for those laws circulated and put on the ballot.

Posted by: The Ironic Hat at February 16, 2014 07:16 PM (AymDN)

100 Lauren, Did you get that pork cooked?

Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 07:17 PM (PGO8C)

101 Good evening, Horde. I cast on a commission today, "Celestarium" by Audry Nicklin - Google it. It's fascinating; a star chart in shawl form, with beads for the stars. It's costing the customer a pretty penny, AND it's really enjoyable.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 07:17 PM (N/cFh)

102 86 $205 million and 9,000 was their lofty goal? Well, it's only moneyÂ… Nearly 23k each. If we're borrowing that much to get 9K insured why not cut the overhead and have 5 bureaucrats processing the applications and maybe cut the cost down to 18KÂ…. but wait that would make too much common sense for the cult of the messiah to grok.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at February 16, 2014 07:17 PM (hpgw1)

103 88 All those in favor say Aye.
Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 11:08 PM (PGO8C)

mutha fucka, fence off California and Mexico and the USA will be a better place. Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 11:11 PM (q0r5L) Hide posts from (q0r5L)

Actually, quite a bit of California is red. http://tinyurl.com/ntb4ubx How 'bout you just fence off the bad parts?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 07:17 PM (T1005)

104 No thanks, you can keep your assholes. In fact, Texas, Utah, Idaho, Colorado, et al. Propose building a fence along the north - south state lines of Washington/Oregon/California from Canada to Mexico. All those in favor say Aye. Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 11:08 PM (PGO8C) A counter proposal: Fence in L.A., San Fransisco and surrounding, Portland, Eugene, and Seattle. Leave the wide open space/non-insane portions of those states for people who aren't insane.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 16, 2014 07:18 PM (AymDN)

105
And the video:

X - Los Angeles (live)

http://youtu.be/8kAiQiz_XDs

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 16, 2014 07:18 PM (kdS6q)

106 so, quick question, if you were a dictator and you were also a thief, wouldn't you have a plan for building a snow sports resort somewhere where there was snow, you know so you could get your kickbacks and make a profit after the olympics?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 07:19 PM (rDidD)

107 OK, I'm out. tomorrow night, mi amioes

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2014 07:20 PM (JMmQ9)

108 See? Putin is honest then.

Posted by: vlad p. at February 16, 2014 07:20 PM (vAnfs)

109 instead of having obamacare in hawaii go for the low hanging fruit, outlaw spam.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 07:20 PM (rDidD)

110

As far as Frank's general premise on Kansas, even when Republicans have been elected there, they're often aren't that conservative Posted by: AD at February 16, 2014 11:08 PM (E31Rf)

Not to mention the horrific Dems they produce.

Here I thought the Wicked Witch of the East was killed when a house dropped on her, but no, Selibius survived to screw us with Obamacare.

Posted by: Donna V. at February 16, 2014 07:20 PM (R3gO3)

111 my strategy for snowboard cross is to sit in the back of the pack and let everyone in front of me fuck up.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 16, 2014 07:20 PM (WdbF7)

112 Fence in L.A., San Fransisco and surrounding, Portland, Eugene, and Seattle. Leave the wide open space/non-insane portions of those states for people who aren't insane. ----------- Yes. Outside of the major metropolitan shitholes, people in California are surprisingly conservative.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2014 07:21 PM (KGCtJ)

113 Nip - Are you Charlotte native born ?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 07:21 PM (aDwsi)

114 I could support breaking California up into several states and then shunning the bad ones.

Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 07:21 PM (PGO8C)

115 Victor Davis Hanson has some amusing suggestions to rescue California. http://tinyurl.com/l3ppfxj Quite a few made me go, "heh". He might be on to something.

Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 07:22 PM (FcR7P)

116 101 Good evening, Horde. I cast on a commission today, "Celestarium" by Audry Nicklin - Google it. It's fascinating; a star chart in shawl form, with beads for the stars. It's costing the customer a pretty penny, AND it's really enjoyable. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 11:17 PM (N/cFh) Hide posts from (N/cFh)

That's really impressive. Do you have a special pinkish bead for Betelgeuse?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 07:22 PM (T1005)

117 I've been living kinda a Pajama Boy life. Sleeping in my Dads basement (Mom died last year). Difference is I'm still paying the mortgage on my own house. But the commute is better for me from here plus he has way better internet connection and he and I are both alone. I'd feel bad but I found out today he still likes me. I hadn't been upstairs for several hours and he yelled at me.

Posted by: Dendritic at February 16, 2014 07:22 PM (8Z8Vp)

118 'Night Alton

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 07:22 PM (aDwsi)

119 instead of having obamacare in hawaii go for the low hanging fruit, outlaw spam. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 11:20 PM (rDidD) Did someone say Spam? I think I just heard someone say Spam! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlsvLZvAkOg

Posted by: Girls und Panzer und Hut at February 16, 2014 07:23 PM (AymDN)

120 104 No thanks, you can keep your assholes. In fact, Texas, Utah, Idaho, Colorado, et al. Propose building a fence along the north - south state lines of Washington/Oregon/California from Canada to Mexico. All those in favor say Aye.

Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 11:08 PM (PGO8C)

A counter proposal:

Fence in L.A., San Fransisco and surrounding, Portland, Eugene, and Seattle. Leave the wide open space/non-insane portions of those states for people who aren't insane. Posted by: The Political Hat at February 16, 2014 11:18 PM (AymDN) Hide posts from (AymDN)

You forgot Sacramento.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 07:23 PM (T1005)

121 Actually, quite a bit of California is red. http://tinyurl.com/ntb4ubx How 'bout you just fence off the bad parts? Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:17 PM (T1005) I'm down with that, less fence needed too!

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:23 PM (q0r5L)

122

The humanitarian in me wants to feed him his own limbs. Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 11:13 PM (FcR7P)

If you can get lutefisk down, there is probably nothing you can't eat.

Posted by: Donna V. at February 16, 2014 07:23 PM (R3gO3)

123 OTOH, people are right to fear most Californians, since the "elite" Leftist ones are like locusts. Posted by: The Golden Hat at February 16, 2014 11:04 PM (AymDN) Fear? Try hate. Pure, distilled hate.

Posted by: model_1066 at February 16, 2014 07:24 PM (LIQGY)

124 I could support breaking California up into several states and then ~~shunning~~ nuking from orbit the bad ones. Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 11:21 PM (PGO8C) Fixed.

Posted by: The Fissionable Hat at February 16, 2014 07:24 PM (AymDN)

125 Did Cali really balance their budget? Other lefties besides the punk rocker quoted above have been saying that. Even if they did, what is their debt total?

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 16, 2014 07:26 PM (1j9qS)

126 Jeez, once again the weekend flew by. Goodnight morons and ettes.

Posted by: Donna V. at February 16, 2014 07:27 PM (R3gO3)

127 Austin is considered the only place worth living in TX by most who move here from CA. It wasn't a deep blue town when I was growing up here in the 70's, but is sure is now. It has already been ruined-Berkeley on the Colorado as Kevin Williamson calls it. I finally got the hell out a year ago.

Posted by: DrC at February 16, 2014 07:27 PM (4gk4Q)

128 126 Did Cali really balance their budget? Other lefties besides the punk rocker quoted above have been saying that. Even if they did, what is their debt total? ---------- Tricks. Unfunded PEU pensions put it so far into the red that default will be the only way out.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2014 07:28 PM (KGCtJ)

129 Linda, nope the husband came home with County Line BBQ so I got distracted! Going out first thing in the morning to get the spices and get it marinating so I can cook to for tomorrow night.

Posted by: Lauren at February 16, 2014 07:29 PM (hFL/3)

130 116 That's really impressive. Do you have a special pinkish bead for Betelgeuse? Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:22 PM (T1005) --- Maybe if I liked the customer better. If she wasn't a Chicago Dem.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 07:29 PM (N/cFh)

131 61 Dig her blue tennies. Me too. Anyone know what brand they are? Ima get a pair for my girlfriend.

Posted by: DrC at February 16, 2014 07:29 PM (4gk4Q)

132 36 Ahem. Some of us have been voting consistently against it and have been screwed, blued, and tattooed for our trouble. Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 10:53 PM (T1005) This. And too funny that the ex-wife of douchebag commie viggo mortenson is sounding decidedly libertarian.

Posted by: bebe's noobs destroy at February 16, 2014 07:30 PM (c7qFh)

133 This site takes longer to get loaded than I did before I quit drinkin' Â…..and they're doin the steep shot of that chick's legs on the top of that jump in the last pic in the wrong direction.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 16, 2014 07:30 PM (F5VLZ)

134
Actually, quite a bit of California is red.
Posted by: cthulhu

You know, not really, Our former enclaves flipped Blue or at least Purple in the last decade or so and there's no going back. The OC went Asian and is now another ethnically divided rat scrabble. San Diego went Mexicrat. And the Central Valley agribusiness elites have embraced illegal immigration, amnesty and government handouts with a vengeance.

For the remaining Cons in California, we're like the Jews after the Fall of the Temple. We keep the faith in our hearts and homes.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 16, 2014 07:32 PM (kdS6q)

135 Actually, quite a bit of California is red. http://tinyurl.com/ntb4ubx How 'bout you just fence off the bad parts? Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:17 PM (T1005) It used to be a lot more read. San Bernardino, Riverside, Mono, San Diego, and Imperial all used to be hardcore GOP. Outside of urban San Bernardino City, there were no Dem Congress members outside of central L.A., with a large number of GOPers in L.A. County. The GOP would win statewide races using the "fishhook" where they would get all the inland counties and then get Orange, San Diego, and the conservative L.A suburbs lilke a fishhook. Compare the 2012 map with the close 1982 election: http://tinyurl.com/lt7qhua Heck, just look at the blow-out in 1994: http://tinyurl.com/kwp6z7w It all started to change when the Defense industry left in the early 1990's and all the illegal alien families who had gotten amnesty started to vote en masse, while everyone who had the foresight to escape did so.

Posted by: The Foold Golden Hat at February 16, 2014 07:32 PM (AymDN)

136 Did Cali really balance their budget? Other lefties besides the punk rocker quoted above have been saying that. Even if they did, what is their debt total?

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 16, 2014 11:26 PM (1j9qS)

They rolled over some debt. Also they actually had to cut billions from the state budget after they didn't get their first tax increase vote in 2010, which helped them move back to black. The state seized redevelopment agency funds I think last year. Even though the state budget has improved, local budgets are still in deep trouble.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 16, 2014 07:32 PM (WdbF7)

137 Maybe if I liked the customer better. If she wasn't a Chicago Dem. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 11:29 PM (N/cFh) Please tell me you charged double...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 07:32 PM (GEICT)

138 What is it about urban areas/major cities, that attracts leftist and crazies in such vast numbers that they think they have the right to control everyone because they are "better/smarter/enlightened", when, in fact, they are none of these things. Is it the, birds of a feather flick together, thing? Because, people in fly over country have a lot in common, but don't feel the need to cluster in vast numbers and control others.

Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 07:32 PM (PGO8C)

139 129 126 Did Cali really balance their budget? Other lefties besides the punk rocker quoted above have been saying that. Even if they did, what is their debt total?

I believe Brown did close the current budget deficit but a lot of this involved kicking expenses down the road. So with all the unfunded liabilities some kind of default is inevitable.

Posted by: Mætenloch at February 16, 2014 07:33 PM (XkotV)

140 What happened to Bebe's boobs?????

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 07:33 PM (GEICT)

141 138 Maybe if I liked the customer better. If she wasn't a Chicago Dem. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 11:29 PM (N/cFh) Please tell me you charged double... Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 11:32 PM (GEICT) --- I did actually charge more than I normally would. Coulda charged more, but, Canadian.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 07:33 PM (N/cFh)

142 Gingy, do I understand correctly that you knit for money? How does that work? Is it a worthwhile way to supplement income?

Posted by: Mindy at February 16, 2014 07:34 PM (mQwL2)

143 I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night hanging from a lamppost.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 16, 2014 07:35 PM (6bMeY)

144 143 Gingy, do I understand correctly that you knit for money? How does that work? Is it a worthwhile way to supplement income? Posted by: Mindy at February 16, 2014 11:34 PM (mQwL2) --- Yes. People find me. And it's really not worth it. I charge by the yard, based on the complexity of the pattern, plus materials. Plus more if I'm feeling salty.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 07:35 PM (N/cFh)

145 I did actually charge more than I normally would. Coulda charged more, but, Canadian. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 11:33 PM (N/cFh) Come on now, you gotta go for the jugular. I have a customer or two that I brutalize. They're such a horrible pain in the ass, and personally assholes, that I don't even feel the tiniest bit bad.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 07:35 PM (GEICT)

146 since this is a Smart Military Blog? Anyone want to discuss the Brevik attack in Norway?

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:36 PM (q0r5L)

147 BC - I'm wondering why purp hasn't been around..., in weeks(?)

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 07:36 PM (aDwsi)

148
Did Cali really balance their budget?
Posted by: Biff Boffo

Technically -- for a couple of years because of:

Federal aid flowing in. Obamacare start-up grant, Medicaid expansion slush, our Magic Choo Choo and so on.

And the state passed a retroactive -- nice touch that -- tax increase on the upper incomes that they couldn't escape.

But the current budget forecast has the state turning turtle by next year.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 16, 2014 07:37 PM (kdS6q)

149 148 BC - I'm wondering why purp hasn't been around..., in weeks(?) Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 11:36 PM (aDwsi) Beats me. Lemme see if I have an email addy for him.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 07:37 PM (GEICT)

150 I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night hanging from a lamppost. Posted by: Boss Moss --------------- Best chuckle so far tonight.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 07:38 PM (aDwsi)

151 I'm thrilled to have left Cali behind. Even the endless snow and potential flooding later this week won't change my mind. Good riddance.

Posted by: mpfs at February 16, 2014 07:38 PM (ObgcE)

152 At that price why not just give them a free health care plan AND a new car.

They're just paying themselves off with taxpayer money which will eventually lower the standard of living for all Americans. Well, at least those who didn't get part of the pay off.

Paying millions for jobs/contracts that might maybe in a dream push $100,000 isn't about helping citizens. Its a slush fund.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 16, 2014 07:38 PM (n0DEs)

153 Ah, thanks, Gingy. It sounds like fun, but I couldn't see any way a person could charge enough to compensate for their time.

Posted by: Mindy at February 16, 2014 07:39 PM (mQwL2)

154 I should point out that you can get almost any government to look financially responsible if you merely assume the rate of return on their pension fund investments will be 20% per year.....and assume that all their retirees will die of by the age of 70.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 07:39 PM (T1005)

155 Heh. Bride #18 looks like she knows how to help dispose of corpses. Marry hell, that's hiring material. For those...special projects.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 16, 2014 07:39 PM (m9V0o)

156 154 Ah, thanks, Gingy. It sounds like fun, but I couldn't see any way a person could charge enough to compensate for their time. Posted by: Mindy at February 16, 2014 11:39 PM (mQwL2) --- I'm a really fast knitter, and I knit while my kid is hanging around or iim watching tv or sometimes listening to school lectures. I'm going to be knitting anyway, I might as well make a few bucks at it.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 07:40 PM (N/cFh)

157 106 so, quick question, if you were a dictator and you were also a thief, wouldn't you have a plan for building a snow sports resort somewhere where there was snow, you know so you could get your kickbacks and make a profit after the olympics? Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 11:19 PM (rDidD) First, I wouldn't build a winter sports complex close to a summer beach resort since that is what Sochi is. It would be like the US having the Winter Olympics in Myrtle Beach. If you watched any of the cross country skiing, the "athletes village" is a bunch of cottages that they built to house the athletes, and they will go on sale after the Olympics. I would bet that a bunch of Putin's cronies will be snatching those things up. The weather there has been about 10 degrees above normal this February, so the snow hasn't been what they hoped, and there hasn't been the usual snowfall this season.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 16, 2014 07:40 PM (HxSXm)

158 looking at russian mail order brides is always so sad. lots of cute girls, all of which are indeed, literally, crazy. never ever met a russian bride in the US on a bride visa that was not absolutely crazy. All of 'em are a hot gulag mess. I wold bet the odds of failure for marriages to russian brides are in the high 90s.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 07:41 PM (rDidD)

159 147 Brevik described as having "narcissistic personality disorder". For some reason..., that reminds me of someone [scratches chin]. Let me think on it..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 07:41 PM (aDwsi)

160 Hey, where the hell has Sven been? He gets top honors for the wall of shame for the year and disappears? Seems... A bit suspicious.

Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 07:42 PM (PGO8C)

161 failure for marriages to russian brides are in the high 90s. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 11:41 PM (rDidD) but the 1st 3 months would be fun !! drunk and fukkin

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:42 PM (q0r5L)

162 159 looking at russian mail order brides is always so sad. lots of cute girls, all of which are indeed, literally, crazy.

never ever met a russian bride in the US on a bride visa that was not absolutely crazy. All of 'em are a hot gulag mess. I wold bet the odds of failure for marriages to russian brides are in the high 90s. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 11:41 PM (rDidD) Hide posts from (rDidD)

Hell, the rate for physical injury or death (of the husband) has got to be around half.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 07:43 PM (T1005)

163 The weather there has been about 10 degrees above normal this February, so the snow hasn't been what they hoped, and there hasn't been the usual snowfall this season. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known yeah, I am not sure but the ski jump appears to have a track and it also appears the skiers are going down the ramp on something other than snow, something along the lines of a plastic.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 07:43 PM (rDidD)

164 161 Hey, where the hell has Sven been? He gets top honors for the wall of shame for the year and disappears? Seems... A bit suspicious. Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 11:42 PM (PGO8C) He goes in and out at times. He'll prob drop 2000 comments next week. Hell, I've seen him crack the weekly top 10 after missing half the week.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 07:43 PM (GEICT)

165 never ever met a russian bride in the US on a bride visa that was not absolutely crazy.

A coworker of mine back in the 1990s got a Ukrainian shipped in. So, not Russian!

... she was a radioactive crazy mess.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 16, 2014 07:44 PM (30eLQ)

166 I'll remind y'all that Calgary 88 had I issues with it being too warm, too. I saw three events one day due to it, causing rescheduling.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 07:44 PM (N/cFh)

167 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper My son told me H-SC closed Monday for the third time since 1775. They are getting soft.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 16, 2014 07:45 PM (l3vZN)

168 but the 1st 3 months would be fun !! drunk and fukkin Posted by: the fuck you say at February drunk, and fukkin, and spend a lot of time outside talkin' to the cops about who hit who.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 07:45 PM (rDidD)

169 I'll remind y'all that Calgary 88 had I issues with it being too warm, too. I saw three events one day due to it, causing rescheduling. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February yeah but I thought calgary is usually colder than something in a bras bra in the winter. sochi is above freezing, I think it is sub tropical. hot gulag mess there too.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 07:46 PM (rDidD)

170 I've been pondering whether to air out my Arabic on a Moroccan IRC channel... about ten years back when I popped in I got a lot of Moroccan ladies very keen to meet an American.

It sure as hell wasn't my looks or personality.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 16, 2014 07:46 PM (30eLQ)

171 bonk bonk on the head

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 16, 2014 07:46 PM (V4CBV)

172 failure for marriages to russian brides are in the high 90s. So if I order ten...

Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 07:46 PM (FcR7P)

173 170 I'll remind y'all that Calgary 88 had I issues with it being too warm, too. I saw three events one day due to it, causing rescheduling. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February yeah but I thought calgary is usually colder than something in a bras bra in the winter. sochi is above freezing, I think it is sub tropical. hot gulag mess there too. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 11:46 PM (rDidD) --- We get these sweet-ass warm winds called Chinooks. Melts all the snow in a matter of hours.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 16, 2014 07:48 PM (N/cFh)

174 Brevik Tactically it was a good hit. distraction event followed up by a hit on the power base. Who knows if Brevik is a stoolie or the guy who planned it, but if the same thing happened here it would be real bad. Say someone blew up something on the edge of DC, then mananged to get into Sidwell Friends Academy in DC and slaughter 100-200-ish kids Hi NSA, I'm not the first to breach this and until the USA fences off the Southern border, look out... ,

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:48 PM (q0r5L)

175
The National Review. The farm team for:

David Frum
Peggy Noonan
Christopher Buckley
David Brooks
Kathleen Parker
Jenifer Rubin

And so many more.

Join us on our next all-suite cruise along the Amalfi Coast!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 16, 2014 07:48 PM (kdS6q)

176 drunk, and fukkin, and spend a lot of time outside talkin' to the cops about who hit who.

The unblemished face on the Slav-ette, and the multiple sharp objects protruding from your back and the genital organs two counties over, would seem to make this one of the easier domestic-disturbance cases for the cops to resolve.

So, you got that goin' for ya.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 16, 2014 07:48 PM (30eLQ)

177 So Bandai is bringing their iPhone underwear to the States, even the morning wood version

http://bit.ly/1oF7LYC

Posted by: The Dude at February 16, 2014 07:48 PM (bStrg)

178 I have a feeling the high failure rate for russian brides is a blessing in disguise, if you drink a fifth of vodka in a single sitting it is gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 07:49 PM (rDidD)

179 Resorting to a Russian Bride would only be something that I'd resort to if sticking my head in a snow blower didn't work out. Â…..better off grabbing some hot mexillegal of the street, at least you'd get some decent chow out of it before she stabbed you inyer sleep.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 16, 2014 07:49 PM (F5VLZ)

180 Thank you all for the Cali budget info. As for the red parts of blue states, it's not just CA. Just about every state has that problem, except the small northeastern states. It's especially frustrating here in PA.

Posted by: Biff Boffo at February 16, 2014 07:50 PM (1j9qS)

181 139 What is it about urban areas/major cities, that attracts leftist and crazies in such vast numbers -- I have a half-baked theory that living in cities turns many people crazy to some degree. Analogous to how living as a hermit would turn many of us crazy too.

Posted by: Votermom at February 16, 2014 07:51 PM (GSIDW)

182 My mom just sent me this funny: "A liberal paradise would be a place where everybody has guaranteed employment, free comprehensive healthcare, free education, free food, free housing, free clothing, free utilities, and only law enforcement has guns. And believe it or not, such a place does, indeed, exist: It's called " prison."

Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 07:51 PM (PGO8C)

183 183 That is going on FB. Perfect!

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 07:52 PM (ojnk6)

184 Ha. True and terrifying...

Posted by: Lauren at February 16, 2014 07:53 PM (hFL/3)

185 184 183 That is going on FB. Perfect! Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 11:52 PM (ojnk6) I hear there's a pretty casual attitude about sex in prison, too...plus no harassment about diversity!

Posted by: model_1066 at February 16, 2014 07:54 PM (LIQGY)

186 Analogous to how living as a hermit would turn many of us crazy too. Posted by: Votermom ----------------- Crazy? I'm not crazy, you're crazy!

Posted by: A Hermit at February 16, 2014 07:54 PM (aDwsi)

187

>>> All those in favor say Aye.

Hell, I'm in Ohio and I say AYE.

Best get packing there cooth

Posted by: PMRich at February 16, 2014 07:54 PM (KDUNf)

188 What is it about urban areas/major cities, that attracts leftist and crazies in such vast numbers -- I have a half-baked theory that living in cities turns many people crazy to some degree. Analogous to how living as a hermit would turn many of us crazy too. Posted by: Votermom at February 16, 2014 11:51 PM (GSIDW) An interesting counterpoint would Machiavelli, who was actually a rebid supporter of republics. I would recommend reading his "Commentaries on the Frst 10 Books of Titus Livy"

Posted by: The Hat of the Republic at February 16, 2014 07:55 PM (AymDN)

189 141 What happened to Bebe's boobs????? Heh? Did I typo? I mono boobed it one night from that.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 07:55 PM (c7qFh)

190 It's called " prison." Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 11:51 PM (PGO8C) I think Reagan said that in the 1960's..... ahead of his time he seems to be

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:56 PM (q0r5L)

191 bebe's boob?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 07:57 PM (aDwsi)

192 Heh? Did I typo? I mono boobed it one night from that. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 11:55 PM (c7qFh) It said "bebe's noobs"

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 07:58 PM (GEICT)

193 bebe's boob? Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 11:57 PM (aDwsi) nope, there are 2. splendid also, saw a pic

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 07:58 PM (q0r5L)

194 yeah, I am not sure but the ski jump appears to have a track and it also appears the skiers are going down the ramp on something other than snow, something along the lines of a plastic. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 11:43 PM (rDidD) I think they do that on all the ski jumps now so that it weather doesn't affect the jumping and everything is consistent throughout the competition.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 16, 2014 08:00 PM (HxSXm)

195 190 Heh? Did I typo? I mono boobed it one night from that.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 11:55 PM (c7qFh)
Cyclops.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 16, 2014 08:00 PM (kVfSG)

196 My son told me H-SC closed Monday for the third time since 1775. They are getting soft. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 16, 2014 11:45 PM (l3vZN) Unbelievable. I bet they did that because the professors couldn't get to school. One year I was there, we had a couple of 12 inch snowstorms within a couple days of each other, we still went to classes, but the dining hall started to run out of food after about a week, and meals became a real crapshoot. When you got in line it was pizza, when you got your food, it was tacos, then the guys behind you got beef stroganoff. They didn't run out of cereal, so there's that.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 16, 2014 08:05 PM (HxSXm)

197 What is it about urban areas/major cities, that attracts leftist and crazies in such vast numbers that they think they have the right to control everyone because they are "better/smarter/enlightened", when, in fact, they are none of these things. Is it the, birds of a feather flick together, thing? Because, people in fly over country have a lot in common, but don't feel the need to cluster in vast numbers and control others.
Posted by: lindafell at February 16, 2014 11:32 PM (PGO8C)

A couple of factors:

1) Urban areas have a specific set of problems which legitimately require collective action (sanitation, crime, defense, water/power). It appeals to the nannys and the collectivists and gives them a way to get their foot in the door.

2) Prior to the industrial revolution, most urban areas were centered around the seats of power. After the industrial revolution urban areas grew as centers for manufacturing and industry. In both cases they quickly attracted or developed people with specialized training. However, these specialists traded increased knowledge in one area for a lack of knowledge in others. This, combined with the modern industrial hierarchy, led to the progressive belief that society could be organized along the lines of a factory, where each person was a specialist filling a role and everything was overseen by supervisors and technocrats.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 16, 2014 08:07 PM (lr3d7)

198 There's a classic car auction on NBC Sports right now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:07 PM (DmNpO)

199 Did they have Boo Berry?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 16, 2014 08:07 PM (V4CBV)

200 Why do I love the Winter Olympics? http://tinyurl.com/n5rxlyv http://tinyurl.com/n233spo

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 16, 2014 08:09 PM (HxSXm)

201 There's a classic car auction on NBC Sports right now ---------------- NDH - If a pristine '69 Z-28 crosses the block, bid on it for me, OK? Oh. Wait..., not a classic. Ok..., if a Studillac turns up, buy that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:10 PM (aDwsi)

202 never ever met a russian bride in the US on a bride visa that was
not absolutely crazy. All of 'em are a hot gulag mess. I wold bet the
odds of failure for marriages to russian brides are in the high 90s.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 11:41 PM (rDidD)
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And I'd imagine that the factors that would drive a guy to go looking for a mail-order bride don't help the relationship either.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 16, 2014 08:11 PM (lr3d7)

203 200 Did they have Boo Berry? Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 17, 2014 12:07 AM (V4CBV) Raisin Bran, Corn Flakes, Rice Crispies, and Cap'n Crunch.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 16, 2014 08:12 PM (HxSXm)

204 NDH - If a pristine '69 Z-28 crosses the block, bid on it for me, OK? Oh. Wait..., not a classic. Ok..., if a Studillac turns up, buy that. ..... Someone is bidding $510k on a 1969 L88 vette

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:12 PM (DmNpO)

205

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 17, 2014 12:09 AM (HxSXm)

Katie Uhlaender

Posted by: The Dude at February 16, 2014 08:12 PM (bStrg)

206 Posted by: The Hat of the Republic at February 16, 2014 11:55 PM (AymDN) But even the Large cities of Machiavellis time... would be considered towns today... Rome was less than 100K... Naples 42K.... I think very large cities are like ruling by committee... you take the number of people involved, then subtract IQ points for ever member above 5...

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 16, 2014 08:12 PM (84gbM)

207 Why do I love the Winter Olympics? Wow. Lara Gut is well-named. What a cutie.

Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 08:13 PM (FcR7P)

208 203 And I'd imagine that the factors that would drive a guy to go looking for a mail-order bride don't help the relationship either.

What do you have against portable housing?

Posted by: Splunge at February 16, 2014 08:13 PM (qyomX)

209 182 139 What is it about urban areas/major cities, that attracts leftist and crazies in such vast numbers

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I have a half-baked theory that living in cities turns many people crazy to some degree. Analogous to how living as a hermit would turn many of us crazy too. Posted by: Votermom at February 16, 2014 11:51 PM (GSIDW) Hide posts from (GSIDW)

Which is why the "rural purge" of entertainment is so menacing in retrospect....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 08:14 PM (T1005)

210 And I'd imagine that the factors that would drive a guy to go looking for a mail-order bride don't help the relationship either. Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 17, 2014 12:11 AM I'm picturing the basement dwelling computer nerd in the South Park world of Warcraft ep

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 08:14 PM (c7qFh)

211 Someone is bidding $510k on a 1969 L88 vette Posted by: Niedermeyer's ---------------- To each his own. I thought the styling was ungainly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:14 PM (aDwsi)

212 188 >>> All those in favor say Aye.

Hell, I'm in Ohio and I say AYE.

Best get packing there cooth Posted by: PMRich at February 16, 2014 11:54 PM (KDUNf) Hide posts from (KDUNf)

I'd have long since been UNpacking if it weren't for the BH.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 08:15 PM (T1005)

213 To each his own. I thought the styling was ungainly. ..... It was certainly green

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:15 PM (DmNpO)

214 Flight 702 (supposed hijacking over Europe) appears to have landed? http://www.flightradar24.com/ETH702/2ba40ab

Posted by: Baldy at February 16, 2014 08:16 PM (2bql3)

215 Someone is bidding $510k on a 1969 L88 vette That's retarded, Sir.

Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2014 08:16 PM (Ngvd+)

216 So how much for this one?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:16 PM (DmNpO)

217 That's retarded, Sir. Posted by: garrett ----------------- I'm pretty sure I could come up with half a dozen cars just as interesting (to me, anyhow) and fun to drive (without holding my breath) for a *lot* less than that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:18 PM (aDwsi)

218 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 17, 2014 12:09 AM (HxSXm) First time that I have sat down and watched the Sochi games now. Womens speed skating. Have damn thighs like a linebacker. NTTAWWT.

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 08:18 PM (NSX2I)

219 $80k for the Austin Healey

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:18 PM (DmNpO)

220 I think they do that on all the ski jumps now so that it weather doesn't affect the jumping and everything is consistent throughout the competition. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known interesting, I hand not seen it in action before this olympics. I am sure the guy in the wide world of sports lead in wishes they had had something similar.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:19 PM (rDidD)

221 Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 12:18 AM (aDwsi) That's before buyer/seller premiums, too.

Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2014 08:19 PM (Ngvd+)

222 $80k for the Austin Healey Posted by: Niedermeyer -------------- I'm not watching. A 3000?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:19 PM (aDwsi)

223 I can't believe these prices

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:19 PM (DmNpO)

224 *Whoof.*

Das ist sehr, sehr Gut.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 08:20 PM (T1005)

225 And I'd imagine that the factors that would drive a guy to go looking for a mail-order bride don't help the relationship either. Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 17, 2014 12:11 AM I'm picturing the basement dwelling computer nerd in the South Park world of Warcraft ep Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy Bebes! Well, you are both right, none of the guys that I have met that have gone the postal bride route have been "winners", at least not like us here.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:20 PM (rDidD)

226 Flight 702 (supposed hijacking over Europe) appears to have landed? That's quite a few laps around Geneva.

Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 08:20 PM (FcR7P)

227 I'm not watching. A 3000? ... No idea.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:20 PM (DmNpO)

228 Gotta think that the guys that bring over the Russian gals don't exactly know how to interact with wimmenz. Gotta think getting a good quality whore would be cheaper and you don't have to worry about getting shanked.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 16, 2014 08:21 PM (HxSXm)

229 That's before buyer/seller premiums, too. Posted by: garrett ----------------- Good point. Don't know what the buyers premium is, but call it 15%. Crap, at $500K that's $75K

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:21 PM (aDwsi)

230 $235 for the 69 Yenko Camaro

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:21 PM (DmNpO)

231 I would watch a Russian bride auction..., just saying.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:22 PM (aDwsi)

232 224 I can't believe these prices Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 12:19 AM (DmNpO) I can. I mean, they're absurd, but it doesn't sound that unusual as car auctions go. I think you know my family has a car thing. My grandfather loves watching the auctions.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 08:22 PM (GEICT)

233 $235 for the 69 Yenko Camaro Posted by: Niedermeyer's ---------------- 427?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:22 PM (aDwsi)

234 This Muirhead girl on the UK curling team looks like she knows how to swallow if you catch my drift

Posted by: The Dude at February 16, 2014 08:23 PM (bStrg)

235 Dude! I'm just looking at pretty cars. Don't ask me specifics.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:24 PM (DmNpO)

236 230 Most auctions are 10% on each side, so 20% of total sale, as I understand it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 08:24 PM (ojnk6)

237 I think the guys that go to the high buck auctions are the same ones that order mail-order brides.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:24 PM (aDwsi)

238 Hi I'm from California. Explain to me how Jerry Brown balanced the budget to me please?

Posted by: Keena at February 16, 2014 08:24 PM (RiTnx)

239 Dude! I'm just looking at pretty cars. Don't ask me specifics. Posted by: Niedermeyer -------------------- Aha! See?..., that's how the mail order bride business works too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:25 PM (aDwsi)

240 This Muirhead girl on the UK curling team looks like she knows how to swallow You know the Swallow is the Prussian State Bird, right?

Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2014 08:25 PM (Ngvd+)

241 I can. I mean, they're absurd, but it doesn't sound that unusual as car auctions go. I think you know my family has a car thing. My grandfather loves watching the auctions. .... As soon as I can figure out how to post a photo from my laptop to a post, I'm gonna post one of your cars.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:25 PM (DmNpO)

242 Y5! So what's the adult beverage selection this evening?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 08:25 PM (c7qFh)

243 Please remember, you're not seeing the full picture. You're getting to see the extreme upper end of the auction. There are times where the prices and cars come back to more normal, still expensive, levels.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 08:26 PM (GEICT)

244 If anyone could look at my link above and see if that makes sense for a landed plane. It looks like it is off driving through the hills and dales looking for MÃ¤dchen singing "Edelweiss".

Posted by: Baldy at February 16, 2014 08:26 PM (2bql3)

245 Hi I'm from California. Explain to me how Jerry Brown balanced the budget to me please? Posted by: Keena at February it is more a question of what he cut it with.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:26 PM (rDidD)

246 Evenin' everyone, I bought a brake spoon today.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 16, 2014 08:26 PM (0AKks)

247 This auction is on for another hour and a half

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:26 PM (DmNpO)

248 Explain to me how Jerry Brown balanced the budget to me please? It's not balanced. It's all gimmicks to try to make it look like its balanced.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 08:27 PM (c7qFh)

249 Y5! So what's the adult beverage selection this evening? Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy Glendronach. I am out of Macallan. And yourself, are you having martinis?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:28 PM (rDidD)

250 There are times where the prices and cars come back to more normal, still expensive, levels. Posted by: BCochran1981 -------------- Yeah, I've always figured Thursday at Barrett-Jackson might be pretty interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 16, 2014 08:28 PM (aDwsi)

251 243 Bebe, beer is always a safe beer, progressing further as desired. This time of night? Best be beer unless unemployed/underemployed.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 08:28 PM (ojnk6)

252 As soon as I can figure out how to post a photo from my laptop to a post, I'm gonna post one of your cars. Cool. If there's a car you want better or more detailed pics of, lemme know. My office sits about 60 feet from the warehouse where they're stored. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 08:28 PM (GEICT)

253 That's a cute little 68 Shelby.

Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2014 08:28 PM (Ngvd+)

254 brown wrote the budget on a beach ball and tossed it to a seal.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:29 PM (rDidD)

255 So an Ethiopian Air plane gets hijacked 40 minutes ago and not a peep about it except on twitter.

Posted by: Dave at February 16, 2014 08:29 PM (4G5ga)

256 1968 Mustang GT350 convertible $105k

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:29 PM (DmNpO)

257 Yeah, I've always figured Thursday at Barrett-Jackson might be pretty interesting. Sunday morning. When all the dick wavers are hung over.

Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2014 08:29 PM (Ngvd+)

258 250 Glendronach. I am out of Macallan. And yourself, are you having martinis? Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 12:28 AM I'm dry to tonight, overdid Friday & Saturday.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 08:29 PM (c7qFh)

259 Bebe, beer is always a safe beer, progressing further as desired. This time of night? Best be beer unless unemployed/underemployed.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 12:28 AM (ojnk6)

Roquette 1797

Posted by: The Dude at February 16, 2014 08:30 PM (bStrg)

260 252 Eh, I won't bother correcting that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 08:30 PM (ojnk6)

261 Back from a funeral for my uncle this afternoon. He served 20+ years in the Navy including a couple of stretches in Adak, Alaska, Diego Garcia, and aboard the USS Enterprise (before a scifi geek like me would perk up at the mention). In recent years he was active in the VFW and was the head of Wisconsin's chapter of the DAV in recent years. He did some lobbying related to that and the family received flowers from congressman Duffy, and a personal phone call from Governor Walker midweek, which was kind of neat. Good guy. Gonna miss him.

Posted by: Methos at February 16, 2014 08:31 PM (hO9ad)

262 @249 and that gimmick would be the extra. chunk he taxes off my salary now! It's truly amazing to me how no one here seems to know or acknowledge this. Kinda like Obama true believers. It's all unicorns and magic!

Posted by: Keena at February 16, 2014 08:31 PM (RiTnx)

263 in addition to the russian moail order brides being effin nuts and guys being losers, there is usually the money problem, the guys go over to russia and or stary here and sometimes suggest they have a lot more money than they do. also, in the early nineties the mail order brides assumed everyone in America was rolling in dough and it was not always so true.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:31 PM (rDidD)

264 Posted by: Dave at February 17, 2014 12:29 AM (4G5ga) - See my posts above. I found out on FreeRepublic

Posted by: Baldy at February 16, 2014 08:31 PM (2bql3)

265 239 Hi I'm from California. Explain to me how Jerry Brown balanced the budget to me please? Posted by: Keena at February 17, 2014 12:24 AM (RiTnx) Hide posts from (RiTnx)

@155

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 08:32 PM (T1005)

266 Evenin' everyone, I bought a brake spoon today. That sounds hum drum.

Posted by: Hayes Bendix at February 16, 2014 08:32 PM (R6JT1)

267 Cool. If there's a car you want better or more detailed pics of, lemme know. My office sits about 60 feet from the warehouse where they're stored. Lol. .... Will do. Thanks!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:32 PM (DmNpO)

268 @256 Yeah I only o found one source for the hijacking. http://bit.ly/1fscCEO It has live flight tracking of it. Surprised Ethiopia actually has functioning aircraft

Posted by: Beer Ninja at February 16, 2014 08:34 PM (598AG)

269 Condolences, Methos.

Posted by: garrett at February 16, 2014 08:34 PM (Ngvd+)

270 Thoughts and prayers, Methos. His service is greatly appreciated and well loved. May God bless him in the next life.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 08:34 PM (GEICT)

271 CA has a balanced budget like TFG is cutting the debt in half. Lies, lies and lies.

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 08:34 PM (NSX2I)

272 262 Back from a funeral for my uncle this afternoon. He served 20+ years in the Navy including a couple of stretches in Adak, Alaska, Diego Garcia, and aboard the USS Enterprise (before a scifi geek like me would perk up at the mention). In recent years he was active in the VFW and was the head of Wisconsin's chapter of the DAV in recent years. He did some lobbying related to that and the family received flowers from congressman Duffy, and a personal phone call from Governor Walker midweek, which was kind of neat. Good guy. Gonna miss him. .... You were blessed to have had him in your life. I'm sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:34 PM (DmNpO)

273 Hi I'm from California. Explain to me how Jerry Brown balanced the budget to me please? Posted by: Keena at February 17, 2014 12:24 AM (RiTnx) Looks like someone will be visiting the Kommon Kore Math Re-Education Camps soon!

Posted by: Komin Koor Kurrikula at February 16, 2014 08:35 PM (AymDN)

274 Condolences Methos.

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 08:35 PM (NSX2I)

275 I'm dry to tonight, overdid Friday & Saturday. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February special occasion? simply celebrating being you?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:35 PM (rDidD)

276 I have a half-baked theory that living in cities turns many people crazy to some degree. Living in a city is driving me nuts, but not enough to agitate for liberalism.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 16, 2014 08:36 PM (jVaLp)

277 Don't Forget to Pack a Wife

Dead Kennedy's - Holiday in Cambodia

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 16, 2014 08:36 PM (80R0X)

278 So NBC Sports will be broadcasting Mecum auctions all season

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:36 PM (DmNpO)

279 Condolences, Methos. Also, condolences for his time in Adak. I've been there. What a rat-hole. Anybody who lived there for any time deserves a direct ticket to heaven. Godspeed, Methos' Uncle.

Posted by: tcn at February 16, 2014 08:37 PM (fwcEs)

280 So NBC Sports will be broadcasting Mecum auctions all season

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 12:36 AM (DmNpO)

Discovery always did a good job on them on the Velocity channel

Posted by: The Dude at February 16, 2014 08:37 PM (bStrg)

281 living in a city is not all bad. I needed a couple of years to get accustomed but it has some advantages.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:38 PM (rDidD)

282 Posted by: Methos at February 17, 2014 12:31 AM (hO9ad) My condolences. Sounds like a life well lived though .

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 08:38 PM (c7qFh)

283 Gus Grissom's 1967 Vette up now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:38 PM (DmNpO)

284 279 So NBC Sports will be broadcasting Mecum auctions all season Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 12:36 AM (DmNpO) They're collecting, and then auctioning, Costas' eye spooge???

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 16, 2014 08:38 PM (GEICT)

285 That sounds hum drum.

Posted by: Hayes Bendix

Way to put the brakes on a good time.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 16, 2014 08:38 PM (0AKks)

286 Surprised Ethiopia actually has functioning aircraft Don't be so sure. Zooming in on it, it appears to be traveling around Geneva at 10 knots. ?!

Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 08:39 PM (FcR7P)

287 They're collecting, and then auctioning, Costas' eye spooge??? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk I thought it was trying to drain putins spooge out of costas eye.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:39 PM (rDidD)

288 Thomas Frank can easily explain everything he has observed with one simple thing: Thomas Frank is wrong. There will be a snowball fight in Hell when that happens.

Posted by: eman at February 16, 2014 08:39 PM (AO9UG)

289 262 Prayers sent Methos. An honorable man. Hope you and the family are doing well.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 08:39 PM (ojnk6)

290 262 Back from a funeral for my uncle this afternoon. He served 20+ years in the Navy including a couple of stretches in Adak, Alaska, Diego Garcia, and aboard the USS Enterprise (before a scifi geek like me would perk up at the mention). In recent years he was active in the VFW and was the head of Wisconsin's chapter of the DAV in recent years. He did some lobbying related to that and the family received flowers from congressman Duffy, and a personal phone call from Governor Walker midweek, which was kind of neat. Good guy. Gonna miss him.
Posted by: Methos at February 17, 2014 12:31 AM (hO9ad) Hide posts from (hO9ad)

I am very sorry for your loss, Methos. He sounds like a great man.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 08:39 PM (T1005)

291 So, we've had around 20 small earthquakes in central OK in the last 2 days. Not huge, but still. Kids are freaking.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 16, 2014 08:40 PM (o9Rp5)

292 So what's up with this Ethiopian plane? Tons of stuff on twitter. Not on the msm.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 16, 2014 08:40 PM (ZPrif)

293 is something going on with an actual plane from ethiopia or is this another inappropriate ethiopia joke?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:41 PM (rDidD)

294 Thanks all.

Posted by: Methos at February 16, 2014 08:41 PM (hO9ad)

295 293 I'm sure they're trying to figure out how to parse this before spitting it out....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 08:42 PM (ojnk6)

296 John Walton ‏@thatjohn I repeat, hijacked aircraft #ET702 has now landed at Geneva (GVA), which is closed. Plane was not given asylum assurances before landing. John Walton ‏@thatjohn I havenÂ’t heard anything from the #ET702 pilots since they told GVA tower they were escaping via the windows. John Walton ‏@thatjohn IÂ’m just saying, if the Swiss wonÂ’t let Croatians in (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26214138 Â…) the #ET702 asylum claimants shouldnÂ’t hold out much hopeÂ…

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 16, 2014 08:43 PM (ZPrif)

297 Condolences & prayers, Methos.

Posted by: Votermom at February 16, 2014 08:43 PM (GSIDW)

298 so, some guy angry about not getting his meal ?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:43 PM (rDidD)

299 I am such an insufferable douchebag.

Posted by: David Frump at February 16, 2014 08:44 PM (Dwehj)

300 Twitchy is covering it -- ie reprint tweets verbatim. http://twitchy.com/2014/02/17/reports-of-alleged-hijacked-plane-ethiopian-airlines-flight-702/

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 16, 2014 08:44 PM (ZPrif)

301 Way to put the brakes on a good time. Spring break is near.

Posted by: Pads & Shoes at February 16, 2014 08:44 PM (R6JT1)

302 A counter proposal:

Fence in L.A., San Fransisco and surrounding, Portland, Eugene, and Seattle. Leave the wide open space/non-insane portions of those states for people who aren't insane.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 16, 2014 11:18 PM (AymDN)

====

can we set up trebuchets and fling the nation's sewage into the fenced areas?

Posted by: jc at February 16, 2014 08:45 PM (PlzOe)

303 Dang! $530k for another 68 L88 Vette

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:45 PM (DmNpO)

304 do you suppose a lot of people in ethiopia buy round trip tickets?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:45 PM (rDidD)

305 At least there's that. Murderer with a badge gets shunned by public. http://tinyurl.com/p4s68u7 CALIFORNIA Â— Manuel Ramos, the cop seen on video beating Kelly Thomas to death, had to leave a place of business last weekend. Nationwide outrage was sparked when Ramos and his partner Jay Cicinelli were found Â“not guiltyÂ” of murder, despite beating the mentally ill homeless man to death as he begged for his life.

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 08:45 PM (NSX2I)

306 276 special occasion? simply celebrating being you? Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 12:35 AM Out with friends, just had too much fun. And don't recover from hangovers like I used to.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 08:46 PM (c7qFh)

307 306 Not nearly enough. Fuck the Blue line and this pos.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 08:47 PM (ojnk6)

308 I just watched the preview of the Outlander series and now I am sad that I don't have Starz. The books are fun.

Posted by: Votermom at February 16, 2014 08:47 PM (GSIDW)

309 219 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, the artist formerly known as MrCaniac at February 17, 2014 12:09 AM (HxSXm) First time that I have sat down and watched the Sochi games now. Womens speed skating. Have damn thighs like a linebacker. NTTAWWT. Posted by: RWC at February 17, 2014 12:18 AM (NSX2I) The cross country skiing gals are the hawt also.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at February 16, 2014 08:48 PM (HxSXm)

310 ohwhatadouchebagiam

Posted by: David Frump at February 16, 2014 08:48 PM (Dwehj)

311 Not nearly enough. Fuck the Blue line and this pos. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 12:47 AM (ojnk6) Agreed.

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 08:49 PM (NSX2I)

312 303 A counter proposal:

Fence in L.A., San Fransisco and surrounding, Portland, Eugene, and
Seattle. Leave the wide open space/non-insane portions of those states
for people who aren't insane.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 16, 2014 11:18 PM (AymDN)

====can we set up trebuchets and fling the nation's sewage into the fenced areas?
Posted by: jc at February 17, 2014 12:45 AM (PlzOe) Hide posts from (PlzOe)

I really don't care about what goes in there, just as long as nothing accidentally gets out (and it's "accidentally" 'cause our godkids and their family are in Sacto and Eugene).

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 08:49 PM (T1005)

313 Methos, Sorry to hear about your uncle.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at February 16, 2014 08:50 PM (HxSXm)

314 1973 Porsche 911s now at $195k

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:51 PM (DmNpO)

315 Watching last weeks Justified. Searcy is getting a lot of time this season.

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 08:51 PM (NSX2I)

316 285 They're collecting, and then auctioning, Costas' eye spooge??? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 12:38 AM (GEICT) That's not right! That's so not right!

Posted by: Guy Fleegman at February 16, 2014 08:51 PM (c7qFh)

317 There's a United flight approaching Geneva now, so maybe the excitement is over.

Posted by: t-bird at February 16, 2014 08:53 PM (FcR7P)

318 Maybe the ridiculous prices on the car auction is actually money laundering. /beady eyed glare

Posted by: Votermom at February 16, 2014 08:53 PM (GSIDW)

319 why would anyone buy an old porsche?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:54 PM (rDidD)

320 Murderer with a badge gets shunned by public. From what I've read, the case is not that clear cut. Supposedly the beginning of the video shows him resisting arrest. I'm not clear on when he stopped resisting.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 08:55 PM (c7qFh)

321 why would anyone buy an old porsche? .... The guy who bought it looked like an old farmer

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:55 PM (DmNpO)

322 ====can we set up trebuchets and fling the nation's sewage into the fenced areas? Posted by: jc at February 17, 2014 12:45 AM (PlzOe) You had me at "can we set up trebuchets"

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 16, 2014 08:56 PM (AymDN)

323 The vettes are drawing the most by far

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:56 PM (DmNpO)

324 304 Dang! $530k for another 68 L88 Vette Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 12:45 AM (DmNpO) When one of the new Super Vets.... faster, more comfortable, and WAY better driving would be... what... 65-70 K loaded?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 16, 2014 08:56 PM (84gbM)

325 264 in addition to the russian moail order brides being effin nuts and guys being losers, there is usually the money problem, the guys go over to russia and or stary here and sometimes suggest they have a lot more money than they do. also, in the early nineties the mail order brides assumed everyone in America was rolling in dough and it was not always so true. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 12:31 AM (rDidD) I remember seeing something about the brides on TV once. The guys would go over to parties about every other month, and the gals went out of their ways to impress these guys. The South Park WOW guy would have thought he was Brad Pitt with those women. They treated them like shit, then wondered why they wanted to go back to Russia.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at February 16, 2014 08:56 PM (HxSXm)

326 The guy who bought it looked like an old farmer Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February he is gonnahave a rough time dragging a disc behind a porsche.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:57 PM (rDidD)

327 309 I just watched the preview of the Outlander series and now I am sad that I don't have Starz. The books are fun. Posted by: Votermom at February 17, 2014 12:47 AM Ooh ooh, when does it start? And do you know when the next book comes out?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 08:57 PM (c7qFh)

328 Latest Twitchy re the hijacking http://bit.ly/1fshgCA

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 08:57 PM (DmNpO)

329 I need a ruling. Do we NOT disparage pointy kneecaps?

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 16, 2014 08:58 PM (ZZX2X)

330 I hate trying to post on an IPad

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at February 16, 2014 08:58 PM (HxSXm)

331 325 More like 70-80k, if you want top of the line, loaded.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 08:58 PM (ojnk6)

332 68 L88 Vette If I were going to buy a Corvette of any year, it would be any one from '68 - '72. Loved that look. In my opinion, none since looked better.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 16, 2014 08:58 PM (jVaLp)

333 321 Murderer with a badge gets shunned by public. From what I've read, the case is not that clear cut. Supposedly the beginning of the video shows him resisting arrest. I'm not clear on when he stopped resisting. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 17, 2014 12:55 AM (c7qFh) At least the video I saw there was no reason for it. When he was talking to him he was already seated.

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 08:59 PM (NSX2I)

334 I remember seeing something about the brides on TV once. The guys would go over to parties about every other month, and the gals went out of their ways to impress these guys. The South Park WOW guy would have thought he was Brad Pitt with those women. They treated them like shit, then wondered why they wanted to go back to Russia. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at February I would go or a russian mail order bride over an old porsche. she is gonna have to stay in a parking space or storage space. its gonna take some fast talking to splain it to the wife. probably have to say I won her in a poker game or found her in a russian bride shelter somewhere.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 08:59 PM (rDidD)

335 If I were going to buy a Corvette of any year, it would be any one from '68 - '72. Loved that look. In my opinion, none since looked better .... The one they sold looked exactly like the Vette my first grade teacher drove

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:00 PM (DmNpO)

336 333 68 L88 Vette

If I were going to buy a Corvette of any year, it would be any one from '68 - '72. Loved that look. In my opinion, none since looked better. Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 17, 2014 12:58 AM (jVaLp) Hide posts from (jVaLp)

Is that the ducktail?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 09:00 PM (T1005)

337 i have seen a couple of episodes of person of interest, I kinda sorta think it is funny to see jim caviziel (sp?) shootin' people in the knees.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 09:01 PM (rDidD)

338 57 Fairlane conv up now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:01 PM (DmNpO)

339 331 I hate trying to post on an IPad Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at February 17, 2014 12:58 AM (HxSXm) So you're saying there aren't Moail order brides?

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 09:01 PM (NSX2I)

340

From what I've read, the case is not that clear cut. Supposedly the beginning of the video shows him resisting arrest. I'm not clear on when he stopped resisting.

Video here. From what is shown, there is NEVER any axctual resistance.

He never even stood and faced the killer cop until after he was initially struck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1po6Sic5lOU

Posted by: PMRich at February 16, 2014 09:01 PM (KDUNf)

341 329 So they do not really know anything?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 09:02 PM (TGgNi)

342 she is gonna have to learn to like scotch too, no more vodka.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 09:03 PM (rDidD)

343 Is that the ducktail? I'm not a big afficionado, so I'm not familiar with the terminology. It did have a little of a spoiler styling to the rear.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 16, 2014 09:03 PM (jVaLp)

344 So they do not really know anything? ..... Still nothing from tv media

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:04 PM (DmNpO)

345 301 Twitchy is covering it -- ie reprint tweets verbatim.

Well, I don't see the Russian tweet that claims the pilots jumped out the window after landing:

https://twitter.com/RidusNews/status/435287178072301568

Oddly enough, that's not what the linked story says. Methinks someone over there has hit the "sensationalize!" button on their keyboard.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 16, 2014 09:05 PM (U82Km)

346 302 That's not a tool that anyone who was well-adjusted would need

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 09:06 PM (b7yum)

347 People are buying collectible cars because conventional investments are not returning ahead of inflation anymore

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 09:07 PM (b7yum)

348 Here's the LA Times story about the verdict. This article is the first time I heard anything about Thomas resisting arrest. I'm not saying I agree with the verdict, just that the reporting had pretty much neglected to mention that this was a violent guy that had assaulted his own mother, who took out a restraining order against him.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 09:07 PM (c7qFh)

349 Shoot. Linky: http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/13/local/la-me-0114-kelly-thomas-verdict-20140114

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 09:08 PM (c7qFh)

350 Some of you might remember a while back when the unused icemaker feed behind the refrigerator in my home's kitchen started leaking. It was fixed and the laminate flooring that had been installed just a few months ago was ruined. But it was over for the moment. The valve was replaced and it appeared the water had dried up.

Not so much. Today, we noticed there was a squishy noise when walking around that part of the kitchen. If you pressed down on the boards near where the tile began water would squirt out. It's difficult to say what is happening. Did the warmer weather cause the water spilled before to rise up? Is there another leak somewhere? We've toweled up a lot of water but it doesn't seem to decrease. Yet there isn't enough to come up between the boards, just to squeeze out where the flooring changes. This is worrisome to say the least.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 16, 2014 09:08 PM (bPxS6)

351 That's not a tool that anyone who was well-adjusted would need

I hang out here.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 16, 2014 09:09 PM (0AKks)

352 One of the tweeps reporting on the hijacking is the fleet website for United

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:09 PM (DmNpO)

353 wish I knew how a team could be playing as bad as the US women's curling team is right now against South Korea

Posted by: The Dude at February 16, 2014 09:09 PM (bStrg)

354 Feb 26th and 27th. Americans and Vikings starting. I let Keri Russel and Katheryn Winnick out of the basement to film.

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 09:09 PM (NSX2I)

355 348 I would tend to disagree with this, only because the overall market has followed the printing trend.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 09:10 PM (ojnk6)

356 354 wish I knew how a team could be playing as bad as the US women's curling team is right now against South Korea .... The Koreans almost beat Great Britain

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:12 PM (DmNpO)

357 Video here. From what is shown, there is NEVER any axctual resistance. 12 minutes out of the 33 shown in court, which the times article states shows him getting up, trying to walk away & then reacting when the cop grabs his arm to stop him. I guess what I'm saying is that it looks to me like nobody is blame free here, including the mental health system that couldn't lock up a violent schizophrenic that refused to take his meds.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 09:12 PM (c7qFh)

358 320 why would anyone buy an old porsche? Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 12:54 AM (rDidD) 'get fresh poon'?

Posted by: the fuck you say at February 16, 2014 09:12 PM (q0r5L)

359 The Koreans almost beat Great Britain

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 01:12 AM (DmNpO)

still, this game is embarrassing

Posted by: The Dude at February 16, 2014 09:13 PM (bStrg)

360

I paid $600 for my 1970 SS Chevelle w/ a 402 and original paint

FTW

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 09:14 PM (b7yum)

361 1970 Hemi Cuda up now. Up to &195k

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:14 PM (DmNpO)

362 361 They're probably twice that much now. At least.

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 09:15 PM (b7yum)

363 Wouldn't mind owning this one: http://tinyurl.com/mq9oj26

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 16, 2014 09:15 PM (jVaLp)

364 361 If you still owned it, in that conditition, the win would be affirmed.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 09:15 PM (ojnk6)

365 328 the Starz website says summer 2014. I don't know when the next book comes out - The plot lines are all mixed up in my head now. I like the spin-off mystery books too.

Posted by: Votermom at February 16, 2014 09:15 PM (GSIDW)

366 Went for $240k

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:16 PM (DmNpO)

367 I paid $300 for a 1970 383 Challenger with the original Hugger green paint

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 09:16 PM (b7yum)

368 get fresh poon'? Posted by: the fuck you say at February more and fresher with a new one and for $200,000 you can get something of a nice new one as well.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 09:16 PM (rDidD)

369 Losing 7-1 after 4 is shameful

Posted by: The Dude at February 16, 2014 09:16 PM (bStrg)

370 I can't be the only one watching this

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:17 PM (DmNpO)

371 365 I'm sure I got at least $900 for it

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 09:17 PM (b7yum)

372 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 17, 2014 01:12 AM (c7qFh) Violent schizo? Can you link that? (Not trying to argue, just all I've heard he was docile.)

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 09:17 PM (NSX2I)

373 I like the spin-off mystery books too. I was surprised that I can't stand them. Didnt even come close to finishing the first one.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 09:17 PM (c7qFh)

374 371 I can't be the only one watching this Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 01:17 AM (DmNpO) MSNBC?

Posted by: RWC at February 16, 2014 09:18 PM (NSX2I)

375 Ok "written in my own hearts blood" scheduled for June 2014, and gabaldon has a spoken cameo in the series first season.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 09:19 PM (c7qFh)

376 hmm Che getting face fucked by a face hugger on a t-shirt http://bit.ly/19c3V1P

Posted by: The Dude at February 16, 2014 09:21 PM (bStrg)

377 In the annals of schadenfreude: http://tinyurl.com/mq9oj26 Would anyone shed a tear if he went to jail?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 09:22 PM (TGgNi)

378 374 I have a weakness for characters who carry an unrequited torch stoically, I guess. The mysteries are kinda seedy though. 355 I am looking forward to Vikings season 2. I watched the first couple of eps of The Americans but Keri's character seemed crazy unlikable to me.

Posted by: Votermom at February 16, 2014 09:24 PM (GSIDW)

379 http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-78528265/ Kelly Thomas violent history

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 09:24 PM (c7qFh)

380 351 Some of you might remember a while back when the unused icemaker feed behind the refrigerator in my home's kitchen started leaking. It was fixed and the laminate flooring that had been installed just a few months ago was ruined. But it was over for the moment. The valve was replaced and it appeared the water had dried up.

Not so much. Today, we noticed there was a squishy noise when walking around that part of the kitchen. If you pressed down on the boards near where the tile began water would squirt out. It's difficult to say what is happening. Did the warmer weather cause the water spilled before to rise up? Is there another leak somewhere? We've toweled up a lot of water but it doesn't seem to decrease. Yet there isn't enough to come up between the boards, just to squeeze out where the flooring changes. This is worrisome to say the least.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 01:08 AM (bPxS6) Hide posts from (bPxS6)

What is the underlying floor? Is this laminate over slab?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 09:24 PM (T1005)

381 NBC Sports

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:27 PM (DmNpO)

382 hmm Che getting face fucked by a face hugger

no offense

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 16, 2014 09:28 PM (30eLQ)

383 380 I hope you will pardon me for not even considering the LA Times as a credible source in this case. Puuhlleeaasseee.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 09:28 PM (ojnk6)

384 378 In the annals of schadenfreude:

http://tinyurl.com/mq9oj26

Would anyone shed a tear if he went to jail?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 17, 2014 01:22 AM (TGgNi) Hide posts from (TGgNi)

I don't think that's the right link.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 09:29 PM (T1005)

385 Reliable information sources:

1. Personal experience.

...

489. Things scraped into the enamel of a bathroom stall.

....

666. The LA Times

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 09:33 PM (T1005)

386 385 378 In the annals of schadenfreude: http://tinyurl.com/mq9oj26 Would anyone shed a tear if he went to jail? Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 17, 2014 01:22 AM (TGgNi) Hide posts from (TGgNi) I don't think that's the right link. Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 01:29 AM (T1005) Doh. Fail on my part, forgot to hit the copy link. This should be right: http://tinyurl.com/oauf3dd Piers Morgan, phone hacking story.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 09:33 PM (TGgNi)

387 #381

IIRC.

I don't know if the water is emerging from some inadvertent reservoir as I sop it up or if more is slowly coming in from somewhere. It consistently squirts out plenty if I give it a few minutes.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 16, 2014 09:35 PM (bPxS6)

388 386 At least the stuff scrawled on bathroom walls may be related to the direct experience of the poster.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 09:35 PM (TGgNi)

389 In for 400 wishes that CA falls into the Pacific Ocean, gets nuked by jihadis, sold 'back' to Mexico, chokes on tofu and organic arugula ...

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 16, 2014 09:36 PM (Yp6Vn)

390 @82 Hey, don't lock those Eastern Wasington and Oregon folks up with those Western loonies. Build a fence in the Cascades and drop the road and rail bridges on the passes. Can't speak to the Cali east folks. They'll have to make their own case.

Posted by: cryptocon at February 16, 2014 09:37 PM (cgWjy)

391 in *be*for...

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 16, 2014 09:37 PM (Yp6Vn)

392 In for 400 wishes that CA falls into the Pacific Ocean,... Preferably, this happens after I and a few other AoSHQ patrons that still live here leave...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 16, 2014 09:39 PM (jVaLp)

393 390 California itself is beautiful, with possibly the most varied types of climate (including the best) to be found in any place in the world. As much as I dislike the prevailing political party there, I am pretty sure I would not want to trade the redwood highway or the Grand sequoias to get rid of them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 09:40 PM (TGgNi)

394 389 386
At least the stuff scrawled on bathroom walls may be related to the direct experience of the poster. Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 17, 2014 01:35 AM (TGgNi) Hide posts from (TGgNi)

That's why it has a rating as high as it does.

Incidentally, this might be a fun thing for a programming-savvy person to play with. Just how trusted is information from various sources?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 09:40 PM (T1005)

395 Fox News now reporting on the hijacking http://fxn.ws/1gLoS6F

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:41 PM (DmNpO)

396 389,,386 Wow,, stunnigly incoherent on this one. Which part,was hard for you to grasp?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 09:41 PM (ojnk6)

397 666. The LA Times Yeah, cause they totally made up that he whacked grampa in the head with a fireplace poker and plead guilty to assault for that, & his mother took out a restraining order after he attacked her. Totally made up. Eyeroll.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 09:43 PM (c7qFh)

398 ...I am pretty sure I would not want to trade the redwood highway or the Grand sequoias to get rid of them. Never been much of a coast person but the road I wouldn't want to trade is US 395 from Adelanto to the OR border.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 16, 2014 09:43 PM (jVaLp)

399 http://www.scpr.org/news/2013/12/02/40633/trial-begins-for-ex-fullerton-cops-charged-in-deat/ There, not the la times reporting on the trial.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 09:43 PM (c7qFh)

400 388 is it possible to turn off the valve of the water pipe that feeds to the fridge?

Posted by: Votermom at February 16, 2014 09:44 PM (GSIDW)

401 bobled is the panda of olympic sports.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 09:46 PM (rDidD)

402 397 Trying to make a joke?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 09:47 PM (TGgNi)

403 398 I thought we used to judge individual instances based on their own merits. By all means, arrive at a conclusion about current events based on on past behavior. Eric Holder loves your position, when it benefits him, only.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 09:48 PM (ojnk6)

404 we should eliminate bobsled and have a toboggan event instead.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 09:49 PM (rDidD)

405 http://tinyurl.com/m5pszy9

Swell. Where do your meds come from and are they what they claim to be?

Posted by: Epobirs at February 16, 2014 09:49 PM (bPxS6)

406 397 No.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 09:51 PM (ojnk6)

407 Sorry,,403. No.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 09:53 PM (ojnk6)

408 so, pairs ice skating vs pairs ice dancing? why both, was the skating not gay enough?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 09:53 PM (rDidD)

409 388 #381

IIRC.

I don't know if the water is emerging from some inadvertent reservoir as I sop it up or if more is slowly coming in from somewhere. It consistently squirts out plenty if I give it a few minutes.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 01:35 AM (bPxS6) Hide posts from (bPxS6)

If it's laminate over slab.....y'know what? Trying to decision-tree this is a lot of effort, 90% of which will be worthless. Let me just go for the basics. If you've got water, it's because it's not draining or is continuously getting more. It could not drain on top of the subfloor (bad if the subfloor is wood 'cause it will rot; not quite as bad if the subfloor is concrete); it could not drain over the moisture barrier (bad, 'cause it'll eat your laminate from beneath), or it could be getting more (bad....er.....just "bad").

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 09:54 PM (T1005)

410 406 This reminds me a lot of the melamine milk issue in China a few years ago. It looks like you have two things possibly working here (or some combination of them): 1) Really, really poor quality control. Either not taking enough samples to test to check quality or a complete disregard for testing of products before shipment. 2) Intentionally changing/adulterating the product to affect cost. That seemed to be the case from what I read on the melamine thing. Now both of these things come back to trying to strengthen the bottom line.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 09:56 PM (TGgNi)

411 we should eliminate bobsled and have a toboggan event instead.

Why stop there?

Competitive water sliding.

Yeah, okay, it'd be in the summer.

Posted by: Methos at February 16, 2014 09:57 PM (hO9ad)

412 Yeah, it's all bad. We're just trying to determine the level of bad. Everything from continuing symptoms of the known problem to ongoing problem that could threaten far more extensive damage.

Which can be seen as analogous to Obama's life.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 16, 2014 09:57 PM (bPxS6)

413 I don't know if the water is emerging from some inadvertent reservoir as I sop it up or if more is slowly coming in from somewhere. It consistently squirts out plenty if I give it a few minutes. Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 01:35 AM (bPxS6) Hide posts from (bPxS6) friend of ours had a problem with their apartment gettin flooded with a couple of inches of water. somewhere they got a thing with a bunch of suction cups on it that sucked everything dry. Had wood floors and is managed a suck everything out, even in between and all the way down to the concrete.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 09:58 PM (rDidD)

414 The Detroit auto show us on next

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 16, 2014 09:59 PM (DmNpO)

415 413 You could try setting up a dehumidifier in the room to try to mitigate some of the dampness. If it is continuously flowing though, it is not going to help too much.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 10:00 PM (TGgNi)

416 Why stop there? Competitive water sliding. Yeah, okay, it'd be in the summer. Posted by: Methos I like the sport, however, I cannot see how it is useful in anyway. bi-athalon I can see why that is in. bobsled, luge, they need a special track, hardly anyone has access to the track, and it is in no way useful in the real world. same as a panda.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 10:00 PM (rDidD)

417 413 I would opine that this is is truly the story of Barky McFuckstick, minus all the gloss.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 16, 2014 10:02 PM (ojnk6)

418 398 666. The LA Times

Yeah, cause they totally made up that he whacked grampa in the head with a fireplace poker and plead guilty to assault for that, & his mother took out a restraining order after he attacked her. Totally made up. Eyeroll. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 17, 2014 01:43 AM (c7qFh) Hide posts from (c7qFh)

I read Patterico every so often.....I wouldn't put it past them. Hell, I lived there for a number of years and the National Enquirer is more reliable. Still, a blind squirrel finds a nut every so often -- is there a link to the LAPD or court records?

I read that shit every day, for years, getting angrier and angrier until I moved away. They absolutely have negative cred with me, and I'm not ashamed to say it.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 10:02 PM (T1005)

419

OK I just watched the full 33 min video. Here are my takes

Ramos - knew Thomas from daily interactions

Thomas - was verbally non compliant, just as almost everyone who lives on the street and deals with cops daily is but there is never any physical or verbal threat posed to Ramos or others

Ramos escalated the interaction with verbal abuse and threats of physical violence

Thomas only tries to flee when first hit by Ramos

You try acting like Ramos, and you go to jail for a long time, he hides behind a shield and gets a pass because a jury so often believes that the cop is trustworthy.

Thomas may have had a history of previous violent outbursts, but did nothing to cause the beat down that night.

If we are going to let all prior events in life determine what happens to you today - well, we've all done something in the past that deseves a 6 on 1 curbstomp today

Posted by: PMRich at February 16, 2014 10:06 PM (KDUNf)

420 Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik threatened to go on hunger strike for better video games and other perks to alleviate his "torture"-like prison conditions, in a letter received by AFP Friday. . Which means he already has video games. A mass murderer has video games in jail. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk F'ing Scandi idiots. We ran into some of them a few years ago in NY, after a Meat Loaf concert. On a different rant. They had no fucking clue that these radical Musiims hate us and want to destroy western civilization. Idiots.

Posted by: The Farmer, in a sarcastic mode at February 16, 2014 10:08 PM (eBupg)

421 If we are going to let all prior events in life determine what happens to you today - well, we've all done something in the past that deseves a 6 on 1 curbstomp today Posted by: PMRich well, if you have not you are doing it wrong.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 10:09 PM (rDidD)

422 Couple of random items - I once read about a Russian Bride who was extremely well-educated, and used the system as a way to escape the lack of respect that she felt she'd obtain in Russia. I suspect that's not exactly common, though. Regarding Brown's "balanced" budget, what's scary is that Brown is probably the sanest Dem in Sacramento right now. The Dems in the Legislature seem to think that he's a miser. Things are a mess in the state right now, with the inevitable budget collapse, and the current drought problems. The drought's due to a mass of hot air sitting just off the coast that's keeping most of the moisture from reaching the state. If something doesn't change real fast, it's possible that we could see a bit of a demographic shift in a hurry as people flee the state for wetter climes. No one in the US wants to be told that they have to ration their water.

Posted by: junior at February 16, 2014 10:09 PM (l9mhS)

423 we should eliminate bobsled and have a toboggan event instead. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 01:49 AM (rDidD) How about Yeti wrestling?

Posted by: Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart at February 16, 2014 10:11 PM (AymDN)

424 How about Yeti wrestling? Posted by: Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart at February I'm in.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 16, 2014 10:12 PM (rDidD)

425 Posted by: PMRich Right. And by your line of reasoning, domestic violence victims wouldn't be able to get restraining orders because prior conduct shouldn't be taken into account. Same with repeat fliers for robbery, murder, etc

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 10:13 PM (c7qFh)

426 The story was covered in a lot of places besides the LA Times. Kelly Thomas's father did a lot of radio appearances, for one. There is no doubt that Kelly Thomas was an ongoing problem but it is absurd that the cops involved with the tools at their disposal felt it was necessary to beat Thomas to death.

But it was just a matter of time before Thomas went up against someone who wasn't sympathetic to his condition and had greatly superior force on their side. That it was cops is what makes it remarkable.

But that reminds me of an item that caught my eye the other day. It appears that in an era when we've got a fair handle on infectious disease, a major portion of those ailments we remain helpless are increasingly found to be our immune system attacking ourselves. Now they've added a significant portion of schizophrenia cases to the list.
http://tinyurl.com/kfxnbsb

Posted by: Epobirs at February 16, 2014 10:14 PM (bPxS6)

427 How about Yeti wrestling?

Posted by: Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart at February

I'm in.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 02:12 AM (rDidD)

I don't recommend it.

Posted by: Some old dude with a recorder at February 16, 2014 10:15 PM (hO9ad)

428 @426.

Can I play Devils advocate for a question or two about your comment?

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 16, 2014 10:17 PM (nkPV9)

429 Regarding Brown's "balanced" budget, what's scary is that Brown is probably the sanest Dem in Sacramento right now. After all these years, Jerry Brown still sounds like a wackjob.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 16, 2014 10:18 PM (jVaLp)

430 Can I play Devils advocate for a question or two about your comment? Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 17, 2014 02:17 AM (nkPV9) Hey, that's our job!

Posted by: MSNBC at February 16, 2014 10:18 PM (AymDN)

431 @430 Regarding Brown's "balanced" budget, what's scary is that Brown is probably the sanest Dem in Sacramento right now. After all these years, Jerry Brown still sounds like a wackjob. ----------------- That's why I said it was scary.

Posted by: junior at February 16, 2014 10:19 PM (l9mhS)

432 429 @426.Can I play Devils advocate for a question or two about your comment? Play devils advocate about what, why priors should only count when it's convenient for one side?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 10:20 PM (c7qFh)

433 Regarding Brown's "balanced" budget, what's scary is that Brown is probably the sanest Dem in Sacramento right now. The Dems in the Legislature seem to think that he's a miser. Posted by: junior I don't believe it for a second. The state is owned by the Dem/Union corporation. Set aside the off-book pension debt, set aside the massive Federal intervention, I don't believe the a-holes of Sacramento have done anything but made a mess of the budget.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 16, 2014 10:21 PM (Yp6Vn)

434 Aren't priors pretty much enshrined in "three strikes" rules for sentencing? On the other hand, we are not talking about sentencing, but cops beating a guy to death. That seems disproportionate regardless of his past conduct.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 10:23 PM (TGgNi)

435 Not at all.

It's about reasoning basically.

"by your line of reasoning......
'

Now my question is about your line of reasoning.

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 16, 2014 10:23 PM (nkPV9)

436 @434 Set aside the off-book pension debt, set aside the massive Federal intervention, I don't believe the a-holes of Sacramento have done anything but made a mess of the budget. ---------------- Thing is, the Legislature keeps pushing for even more spending. I've seen comments from legislators that are basically along the lines of, "Well, now that we've balanced the budget, we can go nuts with spending again." Brown's bad. I'm not arguing with that. But the State Senate and Assembly are even worse, as incredible as that may seem.

Posted by: junior at February 16, 2014 10:23 PM (l9mhS)

437 @435 Aren't priors pretty much enshrined in "three strikes" rules for sentencing? On the other hand, we are not talking about sentencing, but cops beating a guy to death. That seems disproportionate regardless of his past conduct. ---------------- It depends. The Three Strikes law here in California was modified via ballot proposition in 2012 to examine the specific kinds of felonies that triggered the first and second "strikes". However, violent felonies don't get the leniency.

Posted by: junior at February 16, 2014 10:25 PM (l9mhS)

438 how about a three shots with a longbow law

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at February 16, 2014 10:26 PM (30eLQ)

439 Now my question is about your line of reasoning. My reasoning about what? That Kelly Thomas wasn't the sweet innocent rain man that his father portrayed in the press? That his own family sought relief from the police & courts to protect them from his violent behavior? That its not possible his behavior contributed to his demise?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 10:27 PM (c7qFh)

440 400 http://www.scpr.org/news/2013/12/02/40633/trial-begins-for-ex-fullerton-cops-charged-in-deat/

There, not the la times reporting on the trial. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 17, 2014 01:43 AM (c7qFh) Hide posts from (c7qFh)

Again, I haven't really been following this case.....but I can well understand why cops might not fully react to someone saying he is smothering when he has enough air to gasp that out.

The bigger picture is -- the judicial system was meant to ensure that we could all say "I don't know so much of this, but twelve goodly men and true -- much like me -- have delved into this in great detail and found this to be so." But now we don't. We think they're politicized "others" duped by bullshit rules of evidence and professional frauds before the bar -- to say things no reasonable man might were he in possession of all the facts available.

I can't believe a juror thinks like me. I can't believe that he'll receive things properly sorted into "indisputably true, consider the source, and indisputably false". I can't believe the laws are anything more than constructs to enrich the favored and impoverish the disfavored. And I can't believe these things because I get evidence every day that they are false.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 10:28 PM (T1005)

441 @440 Why are you being so combative? I have not even asked my questions yet.

I promise you can hate me later. OK?

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 16, 2014 10:29 PM (nkPV9)

442

Prior actions resulting in a restraining order have never hospitalized or killed the person with the history of violence.

It is merely a piece of paper.

Posted by: PMRich at February 16, 2014 10:29 PM (KDUNf)

443 442 @440 Why are you being so combative? I have not even asked my questions yet. Because everyone is acting like I not only said I agree with the verdict, but that he deserved the smack down when I said this case is not as clear cut as it was made out to be. But by all means carry on proving I'm mentally defective.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 10:34 PM (c7qFh)

444 Seriously, the real problem is whether a jury can provide judicial closure.

Why should everything be retried in the media? Why should we second-guess juries?

And the answer is.....because both juries and media have become thoroughly corrupt.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 10:35 PM (T1005)

445 445 One affects the other. The point of the jury is you are trying to find jurors who either know nothing about the case or can act in a non-biased manner. Media works at cross purposes to that idea. They find a story that they want to cover (often choosing to portray the story in a very specific way) and then disseminate that view in the widest possible degree. Like the Zimmerman trial.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 10:39 PM (TGgNi)

446 "But by all means carry on proving I'm mentally defective."

I had no intention of doing any such thing. Again, being combative before anything was even asked.

Tell ya what. If you see me in day or two and have an interest in the question, by all means, please ask.

Until.......then

forget about it....!

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 16, 2014 10:40 PM (nkPV9)

447 443 Prior actions resulting in a restraining order have never hospitalized or killed the person with the history of violence. It is merely a piece of paper. Really? Cops/bystanders/abusees have never harmed or killed abusers engaged in subsequent violent acts?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 10:40 PM (c7qFh)

448 Night all. Here is "Rumble" by Link Wray: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucTg6rZJCu4

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 16, 2014 10:40 PM (AymDN)

449 444 442 @440 Why are you being so combative? I have not even asked my questions yet.

Because everyone is acting like I not only said I agree with the verdict, but that he deserved the smack down when I said this case is not as clear cut as it was made out to be. But by all means carry on proving I'm mentally defective. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 17, 2014 02:34 AM (c7qFh) Hide posts from (c7qFh)

You're bringin' good stuff -- seriously, as I noted, anything the LAT says is relegated to "five fathoms deeper than whaleshit" in my mind and I'm reflexively against -- but I'm more willing to talk about alternative news sources. Fact is, though, you used to be able to say about cases you weren't intimately familiar with: "I wasn't on the jury, but people like me were and evaluated all the evidence....they decided XXXXX, and I'll go with that."

And, today, you can't say that. And that is worth hitting the "Panic Button" over, regardless of individual cases.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 10:42 PM (T1005)

450 seriously, as I noted, anything the LAT says is relegated to "five fathoms deeper than whaleshit" in my mind and I'm reflexively against -- but I'm more willing to talk about alternative news sources Well I'm also not arguing the times are paragons of virtue. But his violent priors are easily confirmable, so I can't see the times risking getting caught playing fast & loose on such a high profile case.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 10:47 PM (c7qFh)

451 And, Bebe.....I've been saying this a lot lately -- I'm sorry about going OCD lately, and I hope it pained you less than I thought it might in my mind when I thought about it afterwards, and I'm going to really be concentrating on being healthier......and a good indicator might be when I can type sentences that make sense.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 10:49 PM (T1005)

452 @450 And, today, you can't say that. And that is worth hitting the "Panic Button" over, regardless of individual cases. ---------------------- My Dad used to work as a prosecutor (a very long time ago). Oh, the stories he could tell about jurors...

Posted by: junior at February 16, 2014 10:51 PM (l9mhS)

453 452 And, Bebe.....I've been saying this a lot lately -- I'm sorry about going OCD lately, and I hope it pained you less than I thought it might in my mind when I thought about it afterwards, As far as I'm concerned, you don't need to apologize for anything. I've never been mad about it, I just didnt agree with your take and said so. So we good?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 10:51 PM (c7qFh)

454 "might be when I can type sentences that make sense."

I sometimes have trouble with that. English is my second language and I don't think with it. I think in my native language and then it gets translated into English.

Sometimes words come out that are not right in usage or seem stiff and accusatory?.

So that's why I asked first.

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 16, 2014 10:53 PM (nkPV9)

455

One of my big issues with this Thomas affair is how the cops acted.

They are supposed to be held to a higher standard than the general public when it comes to interaction with the public and violence in particular. Police officers recieve training in both of these areas. But what we see today is that they are held to no standards and, as I said earlier, get a pass far too often.

Many of us know at least one person who is not all there mentally for various reasons. These individuals all too often become mirrors of those they are interacting with. If you are a smartass to them - they will reflect this back to you and often amplify the same attitude.

Watching that video, I saw a person who was supposed to be responsible - act like a total douche, then become verbally and physically abusive. This was before the actual beating began.

Posted by: PMRich at February 16, 2014 10:54 PM (KDUNf)

456 My Dad used to work as a prosecutor (a very long time ago). Oh, the stories he could tell about jurors... Posted by: junior at February 17, 2014 02:51 AM (l9mhS) I got stuck on a civil case a few years ago, and frankly the games the lawyers & judge played with evidence was horrendous. The stuff we found out after the mistrial sure made it look like the judge was in the bag for the defense from the gitgo, so plenty of blame to go around.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 10:55 PM (c7qFh)

457

>> Cops/bystanders/abusees have never harmed or killed abusers engaged in subsequent violent acts?

I have no problem with an abuser getting his comeuppance when engaged in subsequent violent acts, I just see this as an entirely different case.

Posted by: PMRich at February 16, 2014 10:59 PM (KDUNf)

458 451 seriously, as I noted, anything the LAT says is relegated to "five fathoms deeper than whaleshit" in my mind and I'm reflexively against -- but I'm more willing to talk about alternative news sources

Well I'm also not arguing the times are paragons of virtue. But his violent priors are easily confirmable, so I can't see the times risking getting caught playing fast & loose on such a high profile case. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 17, 2014 02:47 AM (c7qFh) Hide posts from (c7qFh)

I got a bad taste from the LAT before I left, and Patterico helps keep the burn alive. I can see them playing fast-and-loose about whether the sun rises in the West or the East to influence an election for dogcatcher.

But, really -- juries used to settle things. That's what they're for. Why don't they now?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:00 PM (T1005)

459 454 I'm with bebe on this

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 11:02 PM (b7yum)

460 But, really -- juries used to settle things. That's what they're for. Why don't they now? Because the courts are just as twisted as the other 2 branches of government, along with the 52%

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 16, 2014 11:02 PM (c7qFh)

461 460 And I think we're the only ones who actually live here now

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 11:02 PM (b7yum)

462 454 452 And, Bebe.....I've been saying this a lot lately -- I'm sorry about going OCD lately, and I hope it pained you less than I thought it might in my mind when I thought about it afterwards,

As far as I'm concerned, you don't need to apologize for anything. I've never been mad about it, I just didnt agree with your take and said so. So we good? Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 17, 2014 02:51 AM (c7qFh) Hide posts from (c7qFh)

Bebe, you've always been good in my eyes....I've been more worried about having been a total jerk to you. I'm just working toward a healthier situation.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:05 PM (T1005)

463 If the latimes was to misrepresent i wouldn't expect it to be on the side of the cops

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 11:05 PM (b7yum)

464

On a much lighter note:

Union is blaming Remington opening their rumored new facility in Alabama on Cuomo's NY SAFE Act.

http://tinyurl.com/l62yqvl

I thought they were the ones that helped to elect him.

Posted by: PMRich at February 16, 2014 11:05 PM (KDUNf)

465 455 "might be when I can type sentences that make sense."

I sometimes have trouble with that. English is my second language and I don't think with it. I think in my native language and then it gets translated into English.

Sometimes words come out that are not right in usage or seem stiff and accusatory?.

So that's why I asked first.
Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 17, 2014 02:53 AM (nkPV9) Hide posts from (nkPV9)

What's the first language?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:06 PM (T1005)

466 463 I think you just miss Jake in ID

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 11:06 PM (b7yum)

467 457 My Dad used to work as a prosecutor (a very long time ago). Oh, the stories he could tell about jurors...
Posted by: junior at February 17, 2014 02:51 AM (l9mhS)

I got stuck on a civil case a few years ago, and frankly the games the lawyers & judge played with evidence was horrendous. The stuff we found out after the mistrial sure made it look like the judge was in the bag for the defense from the gitgo, so plenty of blame to go around. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 17, 2014 02:55 AM (c7qFh) Hide posts from (c7qFh)

This, this, this -- and a thousand times, this! How can we (the public) feel that justice was done, when they (the lawyers and judge) put one over on the rubes (the jurors) who represent us?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:09 PM (T1005)

468 465 They were, but it was not supposed to affect them negatively in any way.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2014 11:10 PM (TGgNi)

469 Pennsilfaanisch, a dialect of German. I grew up in an Old Order Mennonite family.

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 16, 2014 11:11 PM (nkPV9)

470 460 454 I'm with bebe on this Posted by: MAx at February 17, 2014 03:02 AM (b7yum) Hide posts from (b7yum)

I'm actually warming-up to you, btw. If you do see Deety around, let her know I miss her.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:14 PM (T1005)

471 TASS claims the hijacker of the Egyptian airliner was the co-pilot.

https://twitter.com/itass/status/435326490771607552

Posted by: Anachronda at February 16, 2014 11:20 PM (U82Km)

472 so I am working on my modern geek-speak:

CIS -- http://tinyurl.com/kg45cro

and

TRANS -- http://tinyurl.com/mfne8l5

I hope I'm getting the hang of it.

Posted by: jc at February 16, 2014 11:22 PM (PlzOe)

473 471 I genuinely thought we were pally-pals. Deety was here daytime 2 days ago, but not morose

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 11:27 PM (b7yum)

474 Good morning, over-nighters. I read the first 70 comments or so, then checkd out... Did i miss anything good?

Posted by: shredded chi at February 16, 2014 11:30 PM (WHeuv)

475 shucks. I'm screwed up again. apparently one is only supposed to put "cis"
and "trans" in front of words if one is all pissed off about something.

guess I'll have to do something about my non-anger.

Posted by: jc at February 16, 2014 11:31 PM (PlzOe)

476 475 Good morning, over-nighters.
I read the first 70 comments or so, then checkd out... Did i miss anything good?

Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 03:30 AM (WHeuv)

=====

beats the shit outa me. you read 57 more that me.

Posted by: jc at February 16, 2014 11:32 PM (PlzOe)

477 I see cthulhu was around not too long ago... If you're still here - i know that I owe you an email. Sorry, I've not been around much the last few days. Been in a real funk. Glad to see you got to walking. A cute puppy will give you even more motivation

Posted by: shredded chi at February 16, 2014 11:34 PM (WHeuv)

478

>> TASS claims the hijacker of the Egyptian airliner was the co-pilot.

Fox reporting that the Swiss police have arrested the co-pilot.

Posted by: PMRich at February 16, 2014 11:38 PM (KDUNf)

479 479 >> TASS claims the hijacker of the Egyptian airliner was the co-pilot.

Fox reporting that the Swiss police have arrested the co-pilot.

Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 03:38 AM (KDUNf)

=======

this just in ..... from now one TSA will be banning the flight crew from the cockpit.

Posted by: jc at February 16, 2014 11:40 PM (PlzOe)

480

478 You and cooth were pretty much shat on unjustly by someone who you very generously extended the hand of friendship. Very understandable to feel like shit.

You'll feel so much better than you do now that you can't imagine it now, soon enough.

Posted by: MAx at February 16, 2014 11:41 PM (b7yum)

481 474 471 I genuinely thought we were pally-pals. Deety was here daytime 2 days ago, but not morose Posted by: MAx at February 17, 2014 03:27 AM (b7yum) Hide posts from (b7yum)

I wouldn't have expected her to be morose because I went silent so quickly when our communications started going sideways. Yet, I'm concerned she may yet be avoiding ONTs 'cause I lurk here. I like Deety and was troubled when you said she may have been upset.....despite any indications you might be a troll. It would be nice to know that she and I were ok.

And you actually had cogent on-topic comments on this thread. Bring it, and get credit for it.....I respect you more today than I did yesterday.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:45 PM (T1005)

482 481
478 You and cooth were pretty much shat on unjustly by someone who you very generously extended the hand of friendship. Very understandable to feel like shit.
You'll feel so muchbetter than you do now that you can't imagine it now, soon enough. Posted by: MAx at February 17, 2014 03:41 AM (b7yum) Hide posts from (b7yum)

Er....ok.....so that didn't parse well.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:48 PM (T1005)

483 481 I don't really look at it that way, MAx, but I guess thanks for acknowledging that? Today was the service, btw, for anyone else that cared.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 16, 2014 11:49 PM (WHeuv)

484 478 I see cthulhu was around not too long ago... If you're still here - i know that I owe you an email. Sorry, I've not been around much the last few days. Been in a real funk.
Glad to see you got to walking. A cute puppy will give you even more motivation Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 03:34 AM (WHeuv) Hide posts from (WHeuv)

Don't worry about it -- I'm at a point where I'm trying to emphasize healthy behaviors -- what I stuff in my pie-hole, what I quaff while on the ONT, where I walk, what I do. If you want to do me a positive, send me a pic of Tucker. Expect an odd email soon, though.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 16, 2014 11:54 PM (T1005)

485

Jeezus dude how can it even cross your mind that I'm a troll?? After all the years I've been here, after all the nights we've spent together, after Ace metioning me on the front page once???

Maybe you didn't catch that I used to be DAve???

481 Glad you don't feel that way but in case you ever do

Posted by: MAx at February 17, 2014 12:00 AM (b7yum)

486

My prob w/Deety was that she more than once started talking like she was gonna end it all in a less than convincing to me way.

The recent unpleasantness just highlights the stakes involved and how dangerous my attitude may prove to be.

Posted by: MAx at February 17, 2014 12:02 AM (b7yum)

487 Don't worry about it -- I'm at a point where I'm trying to emphasize healthy behaviors -- what I stuff in my pie-hole, what I quaff while on the ONT, where I walk, what I do. If you want to do me a positive, send me a pic of Tucker. Expect an odd email soon, though. Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 03:54 AM (T1005) ___________ Actually i DO worry about it. I wasn't ignoring you (well, I guess i was - i ignored everybody the last few days). I should have been less selfish and more considerate... I know what you mean, too. I need something to change, myself. First night I've had a drink in a few days, and now I can't sleep more than three hours.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 12:03 AM (WHeuv)

488 486
Jeezus dude how can it even cross your mind that I'm a troll?? After all the years I've been here, after all the nights we've spent together, after Ace metioning me on the front page once???
Maybe you didn't catch that I used to be DAve???
481 Glad you don't feel that way but in case you ever do Posted by: MAx at February 17, 2014 04:00 AM (b7yum) Hide posts from (b7yum)

Anyone can be a troll; anyone can be AI....hashes are an imperfect tool. But this very imprecision and obscurity give rise to something else -- we can be who we are. Cthulhu is probably a much better person than I am in real life. "By your works are ye known."

Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 12:09 AM (T1005)

489 Do hash's ever change? Unless you change ISP's of course.

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 17, 2014 12:13 AM (nkPV9)

490 Yes, it was the middle one. Posted by: unsuccessful sniper school at February 16, 2014 10:55 PM (vAnfs) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUEHfAtKT9o

Posted by: Zakonar at February 17, 2014 12:15 AM (GJGsz)

491 490 I'm on a phone (for now), so mine changes all the time. Multiple times a day, sometimes. I know It changes if I power off then back on.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 12:22 AM (WHeuv)

492 Yikes

Posted by: MAx at February 17, 2014 12:24 AM (b7yum)

493 I know the phones change. Just wondering if the home pc chances as well. Mine hasn't changed unless I change ISP's.

Sometimes would like to know how they work, then I realize I don't really care.

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 17, 2014 12:26 AM (nkPV9)

494 488 Don't worry about it -- I'm at a point where I'm trying to emphasize healthy behaviors -- what I stuff in my pie-hole, what I quaff while on the ONT, where I walk, what I do. If you want to do me a positive, send me a pic of Tucker. Expect an odd email soon, though.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 03:54 AM (T1005)
___________

Actually i DO worry about it. I wasn't ignoring you (well, I guess i was - i ignored everybody the last few days). I should have been less selfish and more considerate...

I know what you mean, too. I need something to change, myself. First night I've had a drink in a few days, and now I can't sleep more than three hours. Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 04:03 AM (WHeuv) Hide posts from (WHeuv)

We've both been through the Sarah experience....and, thankfully, she has been who she was -- instead of what my nightmares feared she could have been. She'd be an incredibly awesome 'ette, were it not for the circumstances.

I wish I could have been there for her today. She was in my thoughts.

But I've been seriously wrecked lately. I don't know how many people I've offended or insulted. I've got to get right with things.

And I have tremendous understanding about the place you're in. Bike, run, run silent and deep -- bond to life where ye be.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 12:29 AM (T1005)

495 "Cthulhu is probably a much better person than I am in real life." _________ Yeah, I doubt that. Cooth is pretty F'ing cool, but my money is on "even cooler in meatspace."

Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 12:30 AM (WHeuv)

496

>> I don't know how many people I've offended or insulted.

Really !?

You've been part of the glue that holds the ONT's together

IMO

Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 12:32 AM (KDUNf)

497 Pack a Wife Edition...

Ahh... but whose wife?

Posted by: backhoe at February 17, 2014 12:38 AM (ULH4o)

498 You going to be up for a few, cth, or should I wait to compose an email?

Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 12:38 AM (WHeuv)

499 497 >> I don't know how many people I've offended or insulted.

Really !?
You've been part of the glue that holds the ONT'stogether

IMO Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 04:32 AM (KDUNf) Hide posts from (KDUNf)

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about the people I may have offended or insulted intentionally -- I'm talking about collateral damage as I've been fraying at the edges.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 12:40 AM (T1005)

500 When players need to cast a saving throw against insanity at merely beholding your visage, collateral damage is not worth troubling yourself over.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 12:42 AM (bPxS6)

501 499 You going to be up for a few, cth, or should I wait to compose an email?
Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 04:38 AM (WHeuv) Hide posts from (WHeuv)

I got a bit distracted, but I'm here.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 12:42 AM (T1005)

502 501 When players need to cast a saving throw against insanity at merely beholding your visage, collateral damage is not worth troubling yourself over.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 04:42 AM (bPxS6) Hide posts from (bPxS6)

It does present obstacles to doing what may console and comfort, to be sure.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 12:48 AM (T1005)

503 I think I'll wait until this afternoon... You don't need or want any of my spillover. But you should know that you haven't offended anyone that I've seen. No frayed edges visible at all. You've been a fucking rock, man.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 01:02 AM (WHeuv)

504 And, guys, I just can't.....but the sister has been here and seen us -- and knows what a paranoid and secretive bunch we are -- and respects this enough that she won't betray us to her own flesh-and-blood if we don't come forward -- and http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=347189#c21788975

Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 01:06 AM (T1005)

505 505 Where were you directing us, cth? That link just took me to a weird looking version of tonights ONT - top of page.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 01:38 AM (WHeuv)

506 Sister sounds like a good egg.
cthulhu, I don't comment much on the events which took place.

But, there are a lot of Morons, you included. who keep this world from tipping over into complete suckatude.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 02:34 AM (DHj6D)

507 And now for the ammo report.

Eleven major ammo sellers
Now up to five searchbots.

And...nothing under .13 per rnd.
Found an Android ap which sort of tracks Walmart ammo that shows some within 25 miles of here.

And Cabela's Emailed me to tell me that an order placed last week is back-ordered till JULY...

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 02:38 AM (DHj6D)

508 Hypothesis: the people who most want to carry write political columns are the very last people on earth who should be allowed to carry write political columns.

As long as we're talking about stomping on other people's Constitutional rights, I wonder how douchenozzle David Frum would feel about this one?

Posted by: VelvetElvis at February 17, 2014 02:55 AM (hleDf)

509 So letÂ’s get this straight: you give a kid $3,500, and in 60 years, at 5%, he has $700,000? Ornstein refers to Â“the miracle of compound interest,Â” but this would indeed be a miracle. A reader who is an expert in finance corrects the math:

Ornstein states that inequality can be alleviated through this mechanism because Â“Â…through the miracle of compound interest, they would represent a hefty nest egg. At 5 percent annual growth [sic], an individual would have almost $700,000.Â”

Now this struck me as highly implausible for a very simple reason. It was immediately and intuitively apparent to me that the numbers were Â— not slightly, not somewhat, not arguably Â— but wildly inaccurate. Anyone who has ever done even a bit of bond or loan math would, without any calculation, also immediately know that $1000+$500*5 (about $4,200 at 5%) over 60 years could not possibly accumulate to Â“almost $700,000Â” at Â“5% annual growth [sic]Â”. I calculated that with a 5% annual rate of return, even compounded continuously, the funds accumulate to only about $84,000, not even close: off by a factor of more than 8 times! In fact, it would require a 9% annual rate of return, 80% greater than assumed, compounded continuously, to accumulate $700,000. (It took about 30 seconds to run these numbers.)

This is not a trivial mistake like a proofreading oversight, or a quibble about arcane calculations or analysis.

Posted by: Bernie Maddoff at February 17, 2014 03:07 AM (e8kgV)

510 No Gun Thread this week?

Posted by: Janir at February 17, 2014 03:26 AM (pOZma)

511 even compounded continuously, the funds accumulate to only about $84,000. That sounds about right.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 17, 2014 03:28 AM (EQ/tE)

512 Jesus, You have given me to know and understand in what a soul's greatness consists: not in great deeds but in great love. Love has its worth, and it confers greatness on all our deeds. Although our actions are small and ordinary in themselves, because of love they become great and powerful before God. From the diary of St. Faustina Kowalska

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 03:36 AM (XyM/Y)

513 It took me a few looks to "get" that sign. Funny, but true.

Posted by: backhoe at February 17, 2014 03:36 AM (ULH4o)

514 " No Gun Thread this week?"

No

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 03:39 AM (DHj6D)

515 Ist die blog gebroken? Nein, sie ist on Montag geschlossen.

Posted by: Gem at February 17, 2014 03:42 AM (zw+pb)

516 So..... the blog office doesn't open until 9, and the editors don't get their copy until after lunch? Good, I have time for a nap.

Posted by: Permanent Cookies at February 17, 2014 03:42 AM (40lLl)

517 I'm on a phone (for now), so mine changes all the time. Multiple times a day, sometimes.

Same here. If it does change due to ISP's. Leave home WiFi, go to 3 or 4G, then work WiFi, then 3 or 4G at lunch, back to work WiFi, then 3 or 4G driving home.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2014 03:42 AM (d0Dmj)

518

Looks like more overtime. Coffee and pie, and plow.

PS. Somebody tell firefox their latest release is so bad that it makes Internet Explorer look good.

Posted by: Snow Plow Driver Dudley at February 17, 2014 03:46 AM (40lLl)

519 Our new blanket of global warming is just starting to fall - 4 to 6 more inches. I've got to drive way up north, too. Yay.

Posted by: Gem at February 17, 2014 03:49 AM (zw+pb)

520 I summon thee, oh morning thread! Shake Gabe or Andy out of bed! We need our morning platform, quick! For JJ, Poppins, and, 'natch, Vic!

Posted by: mindful webworker of the virtual webworkers at February 17, 2014 03:49 AM (bDqG/)

521 519?

One reason I don't like automatic updates. FF started as a wonderful idea but some of their "improvements" have been awful.

Posted by: backhoe at February 17, 2014 03:49 AM (ULH4o)

522 In many ways, our adventure in Tennessee is just like Obama's story.

Posted by: UAW Executive Board, mating in Las Vegas today at February 17, 2014 03:54 AM (F58x4)

523 Seen this?

http://tinyurl.com/k2jgt2k

Posted by: backhoe at February 17, 2014 03:54 AM (ULH4o)

524 Class?Â… Class?Â… WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 17, 2014 04:02 AM (olDqf)

525 Folks I can't wait any longer. I have to go downtown and take care of some buisness with DR and buy groceries. What I will do is save today's links for tomorrow and add to them.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 17, 2014 04:04 AM (T2V/1)

526 "No Gun Thread this week?" Threads are getting kinda scarce around here of late.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 17, 2014 04:05 AM (q0AdG)

527 " I can't wait any longer. ... What I will do is save today's links for tomorrow and add to them. -Vic But the news will all be old's by then! How dare Vic have a life!

Posted by: mindful webworker of the virtual webworkers at February 17, 2014 04:07 AM (bDqG/)

528 Will wait for morning dump. Sheesh, you'd think the way random open threads get tossed in around here they could at least have someone just toss one out now!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 17, 2014 04:09 AM (olDqf)

529 I'm not gonna wait any longer either..

We've got a winter storm approaching (looks like an icy mix) so I think I'll hit the road early.

Have a good day y'all. Somebody give Gabe a swift kick in the ass!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 17, 2014 04:09 AM (b/lt+)

530 Well, good morning and later. Gotta go.

Posted by: dogfish at February 17, 2014 04:10 AM (nsOJa)

531 "Seen this? http://tinyurl.com/k2jgt2k" -backhoe The headline says trolls. But the 2nd paragraph says commenters. "Researchers say that online commenters display traits that are Narcissistic, psychopathic, and sadistic " How dare they say that about ME! I'll cut 'em....

Posted by: mindful webworker of the virtual webworkers at February 17, 2014 04:11 AM (bDqG/)

532 So, has Firefox been taken over by the same people who did the software for ObamaCare?

Update seems to come with a free bag of goat balls.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 04:12 AM (DHj6D)

533 I don't think there is a bond in the world that pays interest continuously.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 17, 2014 04:12 AM (V70Uh)

534 Good morning. My goodness it reeks in here.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her Sanity Prod (tm) at February 17, 2014 04:12 AM (z+Xap)

535 You would think that with the cost of membership here, that fresh content would flow like money out of the federal coffers.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 04:15 AM (DHj6D)

536 Posted by: Snow Plow Driver Dudley at February 17, 2014 07:46 AM (40lLl)

There are two forks in Firefox you might want to look at: Aurora and Palemoon (recommended here by someone). I found Aurora (sort of a beta-ish FF) more stable than Firefox, byt Palemoon is a stripped version with just basic features and is now what I use most. Look, feel and add-ons are pretty much the same. &&

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 17, 2014 04:17 AM (o3MSL)

537 Hymn-"When our confidence is shaken": The words and nice pictures; http://listentogrammie.blogspot.com/2009/08/when-our-confidence-is-shaken.html Few hymns of earlier centuries address crises of faith as those addressed in stanza one: "the spirit in sickness seeks but cannot find a cure." In stanza two, the author confronts the ultimate doubts: "our research leads us to the ultimate unknown." In a bold statement, Pratt Green concludes the stanza: Faith must die, or come full circle to its source in God alone. Stanza three encourages us to maintain the "discipline of praying, when itÂ’s hardest to believe." The final stanza states unequivocally: "God is love, and thus redeems us in the Christ we crucify." The author concludes that even in a crisis of faith . . . May we in this faith maturing be content to live and die! Fred Pratt Green (1903-2000) was born at Roby, near Liverpool, England, and was ordained in 1928. He began writing hymns only in 1969 after retiring from active parish ministry. Despite his late start as a composer of hymn texts, he is known as one of the greatest hymn writers of the twentieth century. In fact, in the foreword to the first compilation of his hymns, The Hymns and Ballads of Fred Pratt Green (1982), he was acclaimed as the greatest Methodist hymn writer since Charles Wesley by eminent British hymnologist Erik Routley. It is likely that his success in hymn writing was built upon his experience as a poet throughout his career. This hymn, entitled "A Mature Faith," was first included in Pratt GreenÂ’s 26 Hymns (1971). This affirms a God active in our doubts and the source where questions of faith return full circle. A mature faith stems from our discipline, prayer, and acceptance of GodÂ’s redemptive act in Christ." I don't have a performance of this hymn but the words are so powerful I thought I'd post them anyway.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 04:18 AM (XyM/Y)

538 The wife wanted a foot massage for Valentines Day, while I only wanted half that distance massaged.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 17, 2014 04:19 AM (CnA98)

539 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 08:15 AM (DHj6D)

Perhaps Ace's "Progressives for a Better Greener Economy with Ampersands" SuperPAC is doing quite well and is leading him to dwell in greener pastures?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 17, 2014 04:19 AM (o3MSL)

540 Well, the garbage truck is makin' its run so I've got that goin' for me....

Posted by: backhoe at February 17, 2014 04:19 AM (ULH4o)

541 NBC now showing their own recorded reactions to USA Russia hockey win like I care now apparently its a requirement to insert yourself in the story ugh. They really are all Ron Burgandy

Posted by: thunderb at February 17, 2014 04:20 AM (zOTsN)

542 "Perhaps Ace's "Progressives for a Better Greener Economy with Ampersands" SuperPAC is doing quite well and is leading him to dwell in greener pastures?"

More like the head Ewok got the shampoo and the FlexAll 454 mixed up again, and is off on another menthol induced bender.

At least it leaves his coat shiny and manageable.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 04:21 AM (DHj6D)

543 O, Holy God, Open unto me light for my darkness, courage for my fear, hope for my despair. O Loving God. Open unto me, wisdom for my confusion, forgiveness for my sins, love for my hate. O God of peace, open unto me peace for my turmoil, joy for my sorrow, strength for my weakness. O generous God, open my heart to receive all your gifts. by Howard Thurman

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 04:22 AM (XyM/Y)

544 They define online trolling as 'the practice of behaving in a deceptive, destructive, or disruptive manner in a social setting on the Internet with no apparent instrumental purpose.' ... 'Both studies revealed similar patterns of relations between trolling and the Dark Tetrad of personality: trolling correlated positively with sadism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism.... I've had many thoughts about the JEF, but until now I never realized ... what did his choomster buddies call it when Barry would grab and Bogart the joint? ... anyway, he's still at it: The President is a troll!

Posted by: mindful webworker of the virtual webworkers at February 17, 2014 04:24 AM (bDqG/)

545 8:24 AM EST. Somebody's slacking.

I have 20 emails in my junk folder and all but 3 of them are in French.

And so to the french spammers...fouche vous.

Off to bed now, to sleep, perchance to dream...

Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 17, 2014 04:25 AM (yh0zB)

546 Geez, it's Presidents Day and no thread commemorating the necessity of buying a new mattress today?

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 17, 2014 04:29 AM (CnA98)

547 Good morning Horde

Posted by: Votermom at February 17, 2014 04:30 AM (GSIDW)

548 In the early 1950s [during the period when the US was the only industrial nation on Earth] union membership in the private sector peaked at about 35 percent of the work force.

Posted by: Flaming Moe at February 17, 2014 04:33 AM (e8kgV)

549 I think we should have a question on the 2014 ballots, "Shall NBC ever be permitted to broadcast another Olympic Games?"

Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2014 04:33 AM (F58x4)

550 waitaminnit.. if there's no Vic news coming up, why am I waiting for the morning thread? :ĺ When I opened the door in the morning twilight, sixteen paws ran out, and twenty-four hooves scurried away. I like February. Six a.m. no longer seems like the middle of the night! Guess I'll go feed the pesks early. Later, gators.

Posted by: mindful webworker questions his motivations at February 17, 2014 04:33 AM (Ynbgq)

551 ( ~waves at Votermom~ )

Well, I'm still freezing in my late wife's cold old Victorian pile of a house, but her Border Collie is by my side so it's not all bad.

Posted by: backhoe at February 17, 2014 04:33 AM (ULH4o)

552 wtf are we still doing here?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 04:34 AM (da5Wo)

553 wtf are we still doing here?

Posted by: BCochran1981

Someone lost they keys.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2014 04:35 AM (d0Dmj)

554 It's quite possible that it being President's Day Vic and Gabe took the day off and who can blame them? We'll have to entertain ourselves. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 04:35 AM (XyM/Y)

555 555 It's quite possible that it being President's Day Vic and Gabe took the day off and who can blame them? We'll have to entertain ourselves. ;^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 08:35 AM (XyM/Y) That would be quite the May/December romance.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 04:37 AM (da5Wo)

556 twenty-four hooves scurried away. You live on a horse or cattle farm? :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 04:37 AM (XyM/Y)

557 President's Day... another day to celebrate Obama.

Posted by: --- at February 17, 2014 04:37 AM (MMC8r)

558 testing 123

Posted by: grease monkey at February 17, 2014 04:38 AM (qQk+U)

559 You want a link? I'll give you a damn link! Which story gets bigger coverage, a traffic jam on the GWB or the Feds preventing a desperately needed salt shipment to leave port for use in New Jersey? I will give you a hint: one story embarrasses a Republican. http://bit.ly/1jvRbqg

Posted by: The Fat Man Cometh at February 17, 2014 04:38 AM (F58x4)

560 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 08:37 AM (da5Wo) Touche! ;^) I wasn't actually thinking of them taking the day together.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 04:38 AM (XyM/Y)

561 Re: Online Troll defined.

I have a talent.
What comments I post are subjective, dependent on the perceptions of the reader. Not being sarcastic but what is written, is not necessarily what he reader perceives. There are also language difficulties; the political left, and the political right speak two different incompatible versions of 'English'.

For example, when Obama says that he is trying to 'help the middle class' conservatives think to themselves, 'what does he mean by that?', since what conservatives see isn't what they would call 'help'. Obama believes that he really is 'helping' middle class America by employing them as serfs under his direction, teaching them what is good for them, and instructing his loyal followers to supervise the less intelligent conservatives (for the good of all mankind)

When Obama says he is going to use his executive privilege to 'help the middle class', they think Obama will reduce confusing and conflicting government regulations, outdated and infective government policies. The resulting confusion Obama says is because of the racial prejudiced of those he is trying to 'help' Anyone who can't understand the resulting discontent, animosity, and mistrust is clearly blinded by their own prejudice. That last makes me a troll, because if you do not agree, then I am a troll. Obviously.

(Kool Sig: Proudly trolling the internet since 197

Posted by: Talented Copy Writer at February 17, 2014 04:38 AM (pxYkt)

562 No morning thread yet? Hasn't Gabe found the link to the story that nobody in the GOP wants to sit with Ted Cruz at lunch? Surely he could rustle that up and kickstart us with a sucker punch to conservatives.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 17, 2014 04:38 AM (Oa7B2)

563 wtf are we still doing here?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 08:34 AM (da5Wo)

Trying to find a sober designated driver.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 17, 2014 04:38 AM (o3MSL)

564 "You live on a horse or cattle farm? :^)"
Could have been San Fran Nan, and her brood running away.

Oh, she of the cloven hoof.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 04:39 AM (DHj6D)

565 563 No morning thread yet? Hasn't Gabe found the link to the story that nobody in the GOP wants to sit with Ted Cruz at lunch? Surely he could rustle that up and kickstart us with a sucker punch to conservatives.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 17, 2014 08:38 AM (Oa7B2)

HEH!!!!!!

Posted by: John McCain at February 17, 2014 04:41 AM (jjaLl)

566 OK, enough with entertaining myself.

Besides, there is a fine line between self entertainment and self abuse.

And I already wear glasses.

Off to Walmart.

Later.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 04:41 AM (DHj6D)

567 Trying to find a sober designated driver. Posted by: Hrothgar at February 17, 2014 08:38 AM (o3MSL) Amongst The Horde????? On a holiday???????? *sigh* Although I'm at work, soooo....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 04:42 AM (da5Wo)

568 564 wtf are we still doing here? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 08:34 AM (da5Wo) Credit Card declined, doing dishes

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2014 04:42 AM (4JkHl)

569 Courtesy of Maggie's Farm, we are brought a Breitbart link discussing CNN's idiotic coverage of Obama's Uncle Joe Stalin, and his summer dacha at Sochi. Apparently, Sochi is a popular place for mass murderers to take summer vacays. http://bit.ly/1gv65wZ Stalins daughter lived for a number of years at the other end of my street, when I lived in Princeton. Way before my time, but I remember the older people on the street (it was probably before their times too, but hey) were always reminding you of the fact, like it was important or something.

Posted by: The Fat Man Cometh at February 17, 2014 04:43 AM (F58x4)

570 Headline WSJ : "Ethiopian Jet Hijacked"

Text, co pilot wanted to go to Geneva, not Rome.

Posted by: Talented Copy Writer at February 17, 2014 04:44 AM (pxYkt)

571 552 ( ~waves at Votermom~ ) Well, I'm still freezing in my late wife's cold old Victorian pile of a house, but her Border Collie is by my side so it's not all bad. Posted by: backhoe at February 17, 2014 08:33 AM (ULH4o) I really don't understand the complete divergence from function in Victorian design. Multiple roof evelations so it can leak everywhere, divided floor plans that are hard to heat, elevated embellishments that are hard to maintain, ...

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2014 04:47 AM (4JkHl)

572 Obama will reduce confusing and conflicting government regulations, outdated and infective government policies and sections of the Constitution.
Addendum.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 17, 2014 04:47 AM (vAnfs)

573 Heck, if you want a great links page you can check out this one. Report back here though. http://bit.ly/1hpmK7X

Posted by: The Fat Man Cometh at February 17, 2014 04:48 AM (F58x4)

574 And jumping out of alphabetical order in states (because people in California may not be up yet) We go to the lovely and historic state of Connecticut for some spring photos. So to the CT' rons and 'ronettes, Spring is there under the snow: http://tinyurl.com/ltonfdf

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 04:50 AM (XyM/Y)

575 Washingtonpost.com

"A lobbying group created by the paper industry hustles to slow the move away from printed checks, forms and other paper communication."

(laughter)

Posted by: Talented Copy Writer at February 17, 2014 04:50 AM (pxYkt)

576 Obama will reduce confusing and conflicting government regulations, outdated and infective government policies and sections of the Constitution.
Addendum.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2014 08:47 AM (vAnfs)

Next Executive Order: Obama declares himself as "President for Life" due to lack of positive declarations of what the Government can do to for you in the old dead Constitution and a balky Congress where certain people keep asking questions rather than going a long to get along.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 17, 2014 04:51 AM (o3MSL)

577 I live in a house from the 185O's. Yes, it's cold here too, but thank the Lord they delivered heating oil yesterday. We've gone through a lot because of this cold winter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 04:51 AM (XyM/Y)

578 twenty-four hooves scurried away. You live on a horse or cattle farm? :^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke Well, I live on a cattle ranch, but as a rule, past calfhood, cattle don't do much scurrying. This was our pack of deer friends. Some new dawns, looks like. Sometimes they follow my yellow cat around. Sometimes they let the dog chase them. A townie relative admired that instead of deer statue yard decorations, we went for the real thing.

Posted by: mindful webworker questions his motivations at February 17, 2014 04:52 AM (AMsS5)

579 "Snake Salvation" guy dies of snake bite.

Posted by: Talented Copy Writer at February 17, 2014 04:52 AM (pxYkt)

580 The newspaper has also learned that Apple is heavily exploring medical devices, specifically sensor technology that can help predict heart attacks. Led by Tomlinson Holman, a renowned audio engineer who invented THX and 10.2 surround sound, Apple is exploring ways to predict heart attacks by studying the sound blood makes at it flows through arteries.

Taken together, Apple's potential forays into automobiles and medical devices, two industries worlds away from consumer electronics, underscore the company's deep desire to move away from iPhones and iPads and take big risks.

"Apple must increasingly rely on new products to reignite growth beyond the vision" of late founder Steve Jobs, said Bill Kreher, an analyst with Edward Jones Investments in St. Louis. "They need the next big thing."

Posted by: Steve Jobs at February 17, 2014 04:52 AM (e8kgV)

581 572?
Jean?

When it was built in 1887 it had gas lites, six fireplaces, a coal or wood stove- and servants to keep everything going. My problem is I can't afford what the gas & electric bills that keeping it toasty cost. You can make it warm if on arising you lite every heater downstairs.

Like so many old homes, "it grew." There's a back add-on with a flat roof that worries me to death in rainstorms. It needed a new roof years ago but we did not have the money. So we tarred it heavily. I need to get out of here but Real Estate is stone dead here thanks to Duh!1's idiot policies

Posted by: backhoe at February 17, 2014 04:53 AM (ULH4o)

582 And elbows! http://cbsloc.al/1aZbH2r

Posted by: The Fat Man Cometh at February 17, 2014 04:55 AM (1XfJ/)

583 NEW YORK - Writer Jen Singer, the mother of two teenage boys, wrestles with her grocery list every week to keep the household budget from getting away from her.

"I'd like the government to stop by my house, come food shopping with me and see where the real costs are," she said.

The adage "An apple a day keeps the doctor away" is impossible thanks to apple prices, she said.

"We go through one of these every few days," she said, holding a loaf of bread. "It's a big part of my take home pay."

Posted by: Robert Noyce at February 17, 2014 04:55 AM (e8kgV)

584 sigh. dawns not dawn's, of course.

Posted by: mindful webworker questions his motivations at February 17, 2014 04:56 AM (AMsS5)

585 Yes, it's cold here too, but thank the Lord they delivered heating oil yesterday. You can afford heating oil? I got a delivery last week, a partial one. The driver started bitching at me because my driveway still had snow on it. He told me I should pay to get it plowed. I told him I could either pay to get it plowed or purchase heating oil, but not both. Then I reminded him that I was paying $4.29 a gallon -- more then double what it was when Obama took office. At that he lowered his head, shut the hell up, and kept pumping.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 17, 2014 04:56 AM (CnA98)

586 "I really don't understand the complete divergence from function in Victorian design. Multiple roof evelations so it can leak everywhere, divided floor plans that are hard to heat, elevated embellishments that are hard to maintain, ...

Posted by: Jean at February 17, 2014 08:47 AM (4JkHl)"

Having servants gives you a different perspective.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 17, 2014 04:57 AM (BcCwi)

587 F A W N S ! ! !

Posted by: mindful webworker questions his motivations at February 17, 2014 04:57 AM (AMsS5)

588 574?
Yep, MF has good links, generally good commentary, and I love their mission statement....

Posted by: backhoe at February 17, 2014 04:57 AM (ULH4o)

589 "We go through one of these every few days," she said, holding a loaf of bread. "It's a big part of my take home pay."

Posted by: Robert Noyce at February 17, 2014 08:55 AM (e8kgV)

Doesn't she know that the Government has decreed that food and fuel are not really a required part of anyone's living expenses and thus are not used (actually deliberately excluded) in the official inflation calculations?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 17, 2014 04:58 AM (o3MSL)

590 WT? Has there been a coblogger walkout?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 05:00 AM (bCEmE)

591 A senior operations officer in the U.S. military ordered for photos of Osama bin LadenÂ’s corpse to be destroyed 11 days after he was killed, an email released Monday by a conservative legal group shows.

Judicial Watch released the document Monday after obtaining it through a Freedom of Information Act request.

On May 2, 2011, the American Navy Seal team shot and killed bin Laden at a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Judicial Watch quickly filed a FOIA request with the Pentagon and the CIA seeking photos of bin LadenÂ’s body, which have never been released. The Associated Press says it had also filed a request with the Pentagon asking for the photos.

Ten days later, U.S. Special Operations Commander Adm. William McRaven ordered his subordinates to Â“destroyÂ” any photos they had of bin Laden Â“immediately,Â” according to new Defense Department documents provided to Judicial Watch. The other option was turning the pictures over to the CIA.

Â“One particular item that I want to emphasize is photos; particularly UBLs remains. At this point Â— all photos should have been turned over to the CIA; if you still have them destroy them immediately or get them to the [redacted],Â” McRaven wrote in an email dated May 13, 2011, addressed to Â“Gentleman,Â” according to Judicial Watch.

Posted by: UBL's good twin (Star Trek "The Enemy Within") at February 17, 2014 05:01 AM (e8kgV)

592 I knew as soon as I posted that there'd be a nood thread. You're welcome.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 05:01 AM (bCEmE)

593 Dump up!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2014 05:01 AM (d0Dmj)

594 oh, look! morning thread up! HAHAHA made ya look.

Posted by: mindful webworker playing a rickrole... swidt? at February 17, 2014 05:01 AM (AMsS5)

595 Since its Presidents Day, here's a great article on George Washington. It is reflections from Eric Metaxas from his book "7 men" and the Secret of Their Greatness which I can't recommend more highly as an inspiring read for men and/or the women who love them: http://tinyurl.com/ngk7mkw

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 05:02 AM (XyM/Y)

596 Don't you mean, "A doe, a female deer"?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 17, 2014 05:02 AM (vAnfs)

597 wha.. it worked! headlines up!

Posted by: mindful webworker - surprised at February 17, 2014 05:03 AM (AMsS5)

598 "We go through one of these every few days," she said, holding a loaf of bread. "It's a big part of my take home pay." Yeah, I saw that. She's holding up a loaf of designer bread. There's another picture where she's standing in her designer kitchen with about 10k of granite counter-top. Her point is valid about food prices, but I've got nothing but crocodile tears for her.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at February 17, 2014 05:03 AM (CnA98)

599 Here's a shocker. Emily Ratajkowski, the Blurred Lines video star, is now in the movies. Ben Affleck, the spectacular Rosamund Pike and some other people get higher billing, but most of America will no doubt show up to see what further adventures in which Emily find herself. http://eonli.ne/1cgSGXK

Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2014 05:05 AM (1XfJ/)

600 Like I've said before, all are welcome in Texas who work for a living. That includes foreigners as long as they come here legally. Even Californians. As long as they leave their stupid politics behind them. Texas is where people go today to start a new life.

Posted by: Erowmero at February 17, 2014 06:13 AM (OONaw)

601 Watch us carefully, Erowmero. Too many Californians refuse to accept personal responsibility for the personal and political choices they made, or worse, were making their pile off the practices that wrecked CA and are now fleeing the tottering edifice they enriched themselves off. The Dems in TX and DC are counting on that.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 17, 2014 07:02 AM (XO6WW)

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