February 17, 2014
— Maetenloch
Been suffering from a stomach bug all weekend so you'll have to fill in some of the ONT gaps on your own.
To Liberals Arithmetic IS Magic
Norman Ornstein in National Journal has a idea that would make everybody a near-millionaire at retirement. Can you spot the giant error?
The first iteration of KidSave, in simple terms, was this: Each year, for every one of the 4 million newborns in America, the federal government would put $1,000 in a designated savings account. The payment would be financed by using 1 percent of annual payroll-tax revenues. ...Under the initial KidSave proposal, the funds [$3500] could not be withdrawn until age 65, when, through the miracle of compound interest, they would represent a hefty nest egg. At 5 percent annual growth, an individual would have almost $700,000..
Hint: The Rule of 72
Answer here: At 5% annual compounded interest excluding inflation $3500 would turn into only around $84,000 over 65 years.
But global warmening which hasn't happened at all for 17+ years is Settled Science all you anti-science rethugglican deniers!!
No, Congress Did Not Debate Whether Shirley Temple Was A Communist
In 1938 the US Congress debated whether Shirley Temple was a Communist. She was ten. pic.twitter.com/BZh7LoKxrU
- Jonathan Freedland (@Freedland) February 11, 2014
Nope.
Here's the deal. The House Committee Investigating Un-American Activities (HUAC), so named in 1946, is well known. But there were a variety of Congressional hearings on Communist and Nazi activity over the years, beginning early in the 1930s. In 1938, Martin Dies and Samuel Dickstein launched a committee to investigate Soviet and other anti-American activities. Which is funny in and of itself because it turns out that Dickstein was a traitor taking cash money from the Soviets at that time.
The Shirley Temple falsehood wasn't created yesterday. It was actually a smear from the Franklin Delano Roosevelt administration. ...Whatever your thoughts on Communism, HUAC (and its predecessors), Soviet spies, Shirley Temple, or Harold Ickes, the media characterization of Congress debating whether Shirley Temple was a 10-year-old Communist is just flat-out wrong.
Some People Just Can't Be Happy
Or see other people happy. Because desperate need for attention. Exhibit A: February 14th.
No, you silly, not Valentine's Day. That's heteronormative and has thus been condemned to the dustbin of history.And no, it doesn't even mean V-Day, the rape-themed anti-holiday invented to promote Eve Ensler's play The Vagina Monologues. V-Day has gotten stale.
Instead, February 14 is now 1 Billion Rising day, Ensler's new dance-oriented hijacking of her own V-Day which was itself a hijacking of Valentine's Day. The thesis behind 1 Billion Rising is that if the world's one billion rape victims all rose up en masse and danced every February 14, then rape would cease to exist because unicorns and rainbows.
Bob Costas Pinkeye Straight Out Of Greek Tragedy About Smugness
Costas used to be one of the best sportscasters in the world. Arguably one of the most skilled baseball color men, he exuded passion for the game and filled his broadcasts with perfect trivia from his vast storehouse of baseball knowledge. I have no idea what Present Day Bob Costas did with Awesome Bob Costas, but the old guy is definitely no more.
Smugness has always been an issue for the man, but lately it's just gotten completely out of control. While other newscasters might have a warm, even friendly, presence, Costas' vibe is more "you're lucky to be listening to me." A stationery strutter, he spews information at the viewer in a manner that mostly calls attention to himself. Every interview by Costas is ultimately about Costas, each story ultimately about him. Someone should do a word count of questions and answers.
In an ironic twist, however, Goebbels' preferred medium was used, and is used, on a regular basis to portray the evils of Nazism. Movie stars know that the surest way to capture gold during award season is to appear in a movie about Nazis, the more evil the better. Instead of supermen marching ever forward, the lasting images of the thousand-year Reich are of Goebbels grunting and wheezing like a disgusting pig while he has sex with a bored woman and of Hitler wearing a ridiculous cape and impotently screaming "NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN!"This is the face of Jewish vengeance. In the decades since World War II, an art form and an industry that was created by Jewish immigrants has crafted the shared cultural memory of the Third Reich, and will shape the perceptions of generations to come. There will be no "reconsideration" of Hitler.
For the attempted annihilation of the Jewish people, the Nazis will forever be the great monsters of the world, a nightmare brought to life via celluloid and speakers. It is a fitting punishment.
No The DHS is NOT Buying Up All the Ammunition
Put bluntly, unless the GAO is under the threat of having their families interred in FEMA camps, most of what you're hearing from InfoWars and similarly credible sites is junk.
So who is buying all the ammunition? The NRA answers that question, as cited by Rich Smith of The Motley Fool.
Why You Should Avoid Oakland Altogether
You know it's bad when even the police are scared and suddenly find reasons to be elsewhere.
The last time Mrs. Maetenloch drove through Oakland she had to stop off for gas and got caught up in a gunfight between police and a guy who had hijacked a police car. Luckily the station attendant pulled her into his bullet-proof kiosk when the shots started flying. Since then I never travel through Oakland unless I'm armed. To paraphrase PJ O'Rourke you'd be crazy not to be armed in Oakland, but I assure you all the crazies have guns too.
Facts You Never Wanted to Know For $500 Alex
The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.
And my twitter thang.
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Posted by: The Political Hat at February 17, 2014 05:36 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Cheshirecat at February 17, 2014 05:38 PM (Dwytc)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at February 17, 2014 05:41 PM (zDsvJ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 17, 2014 05:43 PM (mHWo2)
I though Shirley Temple was villified for being Christian and anti-gay? You mean she was a commie too?
Wait, that can't be right. I'd better read this first.
Right after I get all my browsers unhacked.
Posted by: WTH? Weirdness abounds at February 17, 2014 05:43 PM (GpaJ7)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 17, 2014 05:44 PM (LWu6U)
The Rule of 72 is racist.
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 09:37 PM (QupBk)
No, it's sexist.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 17, 2014 05:44 PM (aYjRw)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 05:45 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Cheshirecat at February 17, 2014 05:46 PM (Dwytc)
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 05:46 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 05:47 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 17, 2014 05:47 PM (mHWo2)
Posted by: NCKate at February 17, 2014 05:48 PM (1FoIf)
Posted by: Lurk Ness Monster at February 17, 2014 05:48 PM (I0DcF)
No, it's sexist.
and a dessert topping.
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 09:47 PM (QupBk)
And a crossbow.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 17, 2014 05:50 PM (aYjRw)
Posted by: ALH at February 17, 2014 05:50 PM (btTLZ)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 05:51 PM (bCEmE)
The party that claims to be for the working man continues to support the importation of cheaper labor from overseas. They support driving up the price of electricity, hurting the poor and working class the most.
The party that claims to be for freedom of speech continues to create ever more restrictive speech codes on college campuses around the country.
The party that claims to be pro-sex and anti-rape continues to foster both the idea idea that all men are rapists and to push for the sexualization of children at younger and younger ages, while simultaneously working to deny parents the ability to protect their children from predators.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 17, 2014 05:53 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 05:53 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: garrett at February 17, 2014 05:53 PM (QOm0g)
Dies wrote about the Temple issue in particular in a report to Congress how the executive branch was obstructing and even attempting to sabotage — the committee’s work:
What a shocker. Bolshie FDR was trying to obstruct an investigation into commies in the government
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 17, 2014 05:53 PM (FE/sZ)
Posted by: BignJames at February 17, 2014 05:54 PM (HtUkt)
Posted by: RWC at February 17, 2014 05:54 PM (hPZii)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 05:55 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: cm9000 at February 17, 2014 05:56 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 17, 2014 05:57 PM (KgN8K)
Posted by: Chris at February 17, 2014 05:59 PM (crkWb)
Playing Civ IV. Named a settlement Ft. Detroit. So get a message - "Islam spreads to Ft. Detroit."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 17, 2014 06:00 PM (fpSpD)
To hell with it, I'm having another drink.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 17, 2014 06:00 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:01 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: seamrog at February 17, 2014 06:02 PM (AugFh)
Screw the math, I want to know where you get 5 % interest.
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 17, 2014 09:43 PM (mHWo2)
Right now money that I can roll into a 7 year annuitized IRA with ING is paying 6%. I think the floor is 10 grand though. Might be 20, I'll have to check.
Posted by: Weirddave at February 17, 2014 06:02 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 17, 2014 06:03 PM (KgN8K)
Posted by: Bomber at February 17, 2014 06:03 PM (5yLmw)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:04 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 17, 2014 06:04 PM (fpSpD)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:04 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: --- at February 17, 2014 06:07 PM (MMC8r)
"In the end, more than freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all – security, comfort & freedom. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for most was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free and was never free again."
Edward Gibbon
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I like it for some reason.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 06:07 PM (DHj6D)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 06:08 PM (6E7W2)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:08 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at February 17, 2014 06:09 PM (baiNQ)
Recall the scene in Quest for Fire when the cavemen look on in amazement as Tommy Chong's kid makes fire?
Getting that "next evolutionary step" vibe watching this. One year old baby can't figure out why a magazine doesn't work like an iPad.
http://tinyurl.com/m9ax6sy
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2014 06:09 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Lurk Ness Monster at February 17, 2014 06:10 PM (I0DcF)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 06:11 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 17, 2014 06:11 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 17, 2014 06:11 PM (KgN8K)
Posted by: Lurk Ness Monster at February 17, 2014 10:10 PM (I0DcF)
All in favor of sending Lurk to The Barrel, say 'aye'.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 17, 2014 06:11 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at February 17, 2014 06:12 PM (baiNQ)
Posted by: Weirddave at February 17, 2014 06:12 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:12 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 17, 2014 06:12 PM (mHWo2)
Posted by: freaked at February 17, 2014 06:12 PM (JdEZJ)
free again."
Edward Gibbon
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I like it for some reason.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2014 10:07 PM (DHj6D)
You like it because it rings true. Because you live in a time when it is again being proven true and it lets you make some sense of it.
Posted by: cm9000 at February 17, 2014 06:13 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: Bomber at February 17, 2014 06:16 PM (5yLmw)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:16 PM (aDwsi)
I don't expect Jews to love the Nazis. But, I don't like being lectured by them about how I should try to understand the Japanese or Muslims while they carry on a vendetta for over 60 years.
Posted by: Chris
Huh?
Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 17, 2014 06:16 PM (Yp6Vn)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 17, 2014 06:16 PM (KgN8K)
Posted by: seamrog at February 17, 2014 06:17 PM (AugFh)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at February 17, 2014 06:17 PM (HsTG8)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:17 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at February 17, 2014 06:17 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Committee of Vigilance at February 17, 2014 06:17 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at February 17, 2014 06:17 PM (KJB+Z)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 17, 2014 06:18 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: BignJames at February 17, 2014 06:18 PM (HtUkt)
Posted by: The Gun Hat at February 17, 2014 06:18 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 17, 2014 06:18 PM (KgN8K)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 06:19 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:19 PM (aDwsi)
My baby is almost three, but she's been playing with iPhones and such for a couple of years now.
Posted by: Bomber at February 17, 2014 06:19 PM (5yLmw)
I've done service projects there, church organized trash pickups and the like in those worst of neighborhoods, except West Oakland and I only went there once with my mom to visit one of the churches there. I gotta say, the only other place(s) I have felt that similar atmospheric tension was spending a night in Ethiopia, where they had soldiers on every block. I suspect I would've felt the same in South Africa, had I had to venture from the airport.
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 17, 2014 06:19 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at February 17, 2014 06:19 PM (KJB+Z)
Posted by: Lurk Ness Monster at February 17, 2014 10:10 PM (I0DcF)
Oh God, that was so corny I will be forced to use it.
Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 06:20 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2014 06:20 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Lurk Ness Monster at February 17, 2014 06:20 PM (I0DcF)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 06:20 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Windows Vista
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Yea, Yea. They said the same thing about Disco.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 17, 2014 06:21 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 17, 2014 06:21 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2014 06:21 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at February 17, 2014 06:21 PM (KJB+Z)
men giving other men shit over it, and killing fuckers what do it.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 17, 2014 10:16 PM (KgN8K)
Killing people for the worst behavior would greatly reduce the worst behavior. But we are so much more enlightened than that now.
Posted by: cm9000 at February 17, 2014 06:22 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: freaked at February 17, 2014 06:22 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 17, 2014 06:23 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Weirddave at February 17, 2014 06:23 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Carol at February 17, 2014 06:24 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: coriolianus snw at February 17, 2014 06:24 PM (Jsiw/)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:24 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 06:24 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:24 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: freaked
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I have dodged both thus far.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 17, 2014 06:25 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 06:25 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Thrawn at February 17, 2014 06:26 PM (WlWt+)
Posted by: L, elle at February 17, 2014 06:26 PM (0xqKe)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 06:26 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 06:26 PM (ojnk6)
Rickl: were they gloating?
I cut off a liberal friend who just couldn't stop gloating about political stuff at Twitter and FB a few years ago too.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:27 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 06:27 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 06:28 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:29 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: otho at February 17, 2014 06:29 PM (9gNQd)
Average annualized return of the S&P500
since 1970 is 11.2%.
Since 1960 it's 11.37%
Since 1950 it's 12.90%
Since 1980 it's 13.29%
Since 1990 it's 11.18%
Since 2000 it's 5.52%
Since 2010 it's 16.31%
Even 2000 to 2010 which included 9/11 and the 2008 financial crash, and you still averaged 5.52% a year investing in stocks. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo
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You are not old enough to know how wrong you are. And my dad was a broker for 35 years.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 17, 2014 06:29 PM (4Mv1T)
Either way, no way in hell is the money there when the time comes to pay out. We're talking about 336,000,000,000,000 ($84K * 4 million, leaving aside attrition) just lying around waiting for the payout date. Sure, it'll be there, safe and sound.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 06:30 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 06:30 PM (bCEmE)
Toby: Citrix software?
I've heard some of their earnings calls lately. They seem to be doing quite well.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:30 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:30 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 06:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: The Be Hat at February 17, 2014 06:31 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Chris
Oh come on, the only two people responsible for any "trying to understand the Japanese" movies coming out of Hollywood in recent memory are Michael Bay and Clint Eastwood and that's it.
Posted by: AD at February 17, 2014 06:31 PM (E31Rf)
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2014 06:31 PM (sdi6R)
I have some questions I'd greatly appreciate having answered about syncing with an external audio recorder...
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:31 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: cm9000 at February 17, 2014 10:22 PM (3qZbZ)
Now we kill the baby.
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 06:31 PM (mQwL2)
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 06:31 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:32 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 06:33 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 06:33 PM (ojnk6)
One might even call him uppity.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 17, 2014 06:33 PM (kVfSG)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 17, 2014 10:29 PM (4Mv1T)
The average annualized return of the S&P since 1926 is 9.77%. How is this wrong?
http://tinyurl.com/bd968gw
Posted by: AD at February 17, 2014 06:34 PM (E31Rf)
Also, whenever I listen to tech company earnings calls, half of what the reps want to talk about is their new cloud solutions. On one hand I like the idea... OTOH, having everything on the cloud sure makes information awfully easy for *cough* certain organizations to steal at whim...
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:34 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 17, 2014 06:34 PM (kxSZr)
http://tinyurl.com/bd968gw
Posted by: AD at February
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Because the average investor never made that.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 17, 2014 06:34 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Agitator at February 17, 2014 06:35 PM (vkJqy)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 17, 2014 10:33 PM (kVfSG)
No, that's just the phone books he's sitting on.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 17, 2014 06:35 PM (WdbF7)
It is a complete and utter lack of understanding how markets and money work.
1st, if everyone became a millionaire, then a million dollars would be worthless. You could have a million dollars and spend it all on a used car. And a real hoopty at that. The more dollars pursuing products, the more the products cost and the less real value there is in the instrument we call money.
2nd, If everyone had the huge savings accounts, just who is going to pay a 5% return on the money the borrow? Flood the market with that much money and you will not see squat for returns on it.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at February 17, 2014 06:35 PM (af5xa)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 ~にゃん at February 17, 2014 06:35 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: --- at February 17, 2014 06:35 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 17, 2014 10:34 PM (kxSZr)
*ears perk up*
Link?
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 06:35 PM (mQwL2)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2014 06:36 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 06:36 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 17, 2014 06:36 PM (mHWo2)
Posted by: The 2nd Amendment Hat at February 17, 2014 06:37 PM (AymDN)
As simply as I can word my issue: I'm wondering, does *any* camera that has a time code generator, then *export* that time code to an external audio recorder for easy sync in a digital editing program later on?
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:37 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at February 17, 2014 06:37 PM (KJB+Z)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 17, 2014 10:34 PM (4Mv1T)
I've *been* making that. You just stick your money in a fund that tracks the S (f'k ampersands) and P.
Posted by: AD at February 17, 2014 06:38 PM (E31Rf)
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 06:38 PM (mQwL2)
I cut off contact with several liberal friends after the 2012 election. Two of them called me and left messages, and didn't try again after I failed to return their calls.
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2014 10:20 PM (sdi6R)
See, I hate it when people do that. It's disrespectful.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 17, 2014 06:38 PM (lr3d7)
Posted by: AD at February 17, 2014
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For how long?
I'm talking about a 30 year investor.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 17, 2014 06:38 PM (4Mv1T)
http://tinyurl.com/po58cek
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 17, 2014 06:39 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 17, 2014 06:39 PM (fpSpD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 06:40 PM (ojnk6)
No matter what they do, it wont work.
Markets reward and punish according to what people do with their time and product (be it labor, creativity, engineering, property, cash or what have you). If what your product is, happens to also be plentiful, then you'll not get much back for it unless you make it unique and desirable in some way.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at February 17, 2014 06:40 PM (af5xa)
If it will run Vista it will run Windows 7. The requirements for Win7 are actually a bit less because they created a low RAM mode to better support netbooks when that was still a thing. Likewise, Windows 8 will run on anything that was adequate for Vista or 7.
Basically, the Core 2 Duo was the place where Microsoft said this was a good point of entry for a while. Things have shifted toward 64-bit and more RAM but the machine I originally built as a Vista testbed was in service right up through the Win8 betas and is still in storage as an emergency backup or loaner. It just got too cheap to build much more powerful new machines.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 06:40 PM (bPxS6)
Drat and double drat!!!!1!
Posted by: Vlad "your friend in government" Putin at February 17, 2014 06:40 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 17, 2014 06:42 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:42 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 06:42 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:42 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at February 17, 2014 06:42 PM (NBhge)
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 06:42 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Weirddave at February 17, 2014 06:42 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 17, 2014 06:42 PM (fpSpD)
I'm talking about a 30 year investor.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 17, 2014 10:38 PM (4Mv1T)
30 years ago it was impossible, because funds that didn't exist (at least ones that were readily available to average investors). Those have been available through places like Fidelity for a while now, though.
Posted by: AD at February 17, 2014 06:43 PM (E31Rf)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:44 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: fuckin math at February 17, 2014 06:44 PM (q0r5L)
Posted by: Bawbwa WaWa at February 17, 2014 06:44 PM (xWgW3)
Posted by: model_1066 at February 17, 2014 06:45 PM (LIQGY)
Which online brokerage do you guys recommend? I personally like E*Trade, but the best recommendations seem to all go to Scottrade, TD Ameritrade, and optionsXpress (which is run by Charles Schwab).
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:45 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: toby928© at February 17, 2014 06:46 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 06:47 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 06:48 PM (6E7W2)
I would consider that a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 06:48 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 06:49 PM (HVff2)
1)unplug dryer
2) take of vent hose
3) move away from wall
4) take off back of dryer
5) Unplug and remove old fuse
6) plug in and replace with new fuse
7) Put the back back on and reattach the vent hose and then plug in.
Because this seems like something I could do on my own, but I don't want to burn my house down trying. Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 10:48 PM (6E7W2) Hide posts from (6E7W2)
It should be something that easy -- a fuse is designed to be replaced.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 06:49 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:50 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 ~にゃん at February 17, 2014 06:50 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 17, 2014 06:50 PM (HxSXm)
........and I was just circling around to say that.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 06:51 PM (T1005)
Posted by: freaked at February 17, 2014 06:51 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:51 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 06:51 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 17, 2014 06:52 PM (mHWo2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:52 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 06:52 PM (VvCsn)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 ~にゃん at February 17, 2014 06:53 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2014 06:53 PM (sdi6R)
Yeah, could just be a one time surge, could be a defect somewhere else in the dryer, cheaper just to replace the fuse and see if it blows again before having it checked out.
Posted by: booger at February 17, 2014 06:53 PM (xRDdL)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:53 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 06:54 PM (6E7W2)
Putting into detail the horrific waste of the stimulus for anyone who isn't an Obama crony who cashed in.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 06:54 PM (bPxS6)
Scottrade - awesome, except when I retired they couldn't (or wouldn't) handle my IRA distributions
TD Ameritrade - the borg, ruins every broker they acquire
optionsDistress - not bad unless you get into something exotic where they don't understand the margin manual.
Trade King is the best i've ever used for complex options.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 17, 2014 06:54 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 06:54 PM (DmNpO)
Anybody know who bought them?
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:54 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: Trevor@TJexcite at February 17, 2014 06:54 PM (bkAvJ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 06:55 PM (aDwsi)
Yeah, online investing I think is kind of like where automobiles were in 1910. Still a lot of bugs to work out.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:56 PM (HVI5a)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:56 PM (0FSuD)
Just wanted to note that the Olympics are broadcast by NBC, the parent company of MSNBC, the Spawn of Satan Network.
Finally, the lowest percentile group not knowing the Earth circles the Sun is 18-29 y.o. Democrats, at 27%. This is the group most responsible for the election of Dear Reader.
Sigh.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 06:56 PM (wNF3N)
So says Wiki.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 06:57 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Global Warming Tinfoil hat wearer at February 17, 2014 06:57 PM (84gbM)
Well the dryer tumbles but doesn't heat up which is what makes me think it is the fuse. It will dry the clothes eventually, but it takes literally all day.
I think it blew because it overheated because the cycle gets stuck and won't turn itself off so it ran for too long. If I avoid that cycle, it shuts off when it should.
This is a super cheap dryer that we've had for 10 years so it's not like it would be a huge loss, but if I can spend $10 on a fuse instead of hundreds on a new dryer, obviously I'd be pretty happy. Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 10:54 PM (6E7W2) Hide posts from (6E7W2)
It may be even simpler than that. If it's on a 220 plug, electric dryers typically run the motor on one phase and the heater on the other. Check the power, first.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 06:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 17, 2014 06:57 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:58 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 17, 2014 06:58 PM (HVI5a)
Any cop with a lick of sense in or around Oakland looked at what happened to Officer Johannes Mehserle and reconfigured their behavior accordingly.
You can't be tried for Murder One after accidentally shooting a resisting perp to death if you just are not at the scene of the crime when the perps are there. It's a remarkable simplification.
So you get this spectacle of police responding to urgent 9-1-1 calls with full lights and siren, driving at precisely 25 miles per hour, coming to a full stop at every intersection, giving the crims plenty of time to get away.
Don't think the local thugs took long to figure out this new way of operating.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 06:58 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 06:58 PM (6E7W2)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 06:58 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2014 06:59 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Northernlurker, moron wannabe at February 17, 2014 06:59 PM (BLAfs)
Posted by: babs streisand at February 17, 2014 07:00 PM (vAnfs)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2014 07:00 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 07:00 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 07:01 PM (6E7W2)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 07:02 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 07:02 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: mindful webworker - pretending to be here momentarily at February 17, 2014 07:02 PM (U13jb)
Posted by: freaked at February 17, 2014 07:02 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 07:03 PM (6E7W2)
Sigh.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 10:56 PM (wNF3N)
Yes, they are the ignorant. But they portray us as such. And they win. Go figure.
Posted by: cm9000 at February 17, 2014 07:03 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2014 11:00 PM (JMmQ9)
And Win8 kind of go together for the non-technical user. It has many UI departures from Win7, so she's going to be lost for a while and only you can say how many repetitions she's going to need to learn the new thing.
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 17, 2014 07:03 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:03 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 07:03 PM (6E7W2)
Posted by: Carol at February 17, 2014 07:03 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2014 07:03 PM (g4TxM)
Posted by: Paul Krugman, Nobel Prize Winning Economist at February 17, 2014 07:04 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Weirddave at February 17, 2014 07:04 PM (N/cFh)
I checked the breaker box and everything looked ok there. Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 11:01 PM (6E7W2) Hide posts from (6E7W2)
It should, specifically, be one-half of one of the bridged ones (if they're not labeled).
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 07:05 PM (T1005)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/selection-du-weekend-75-37.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 17, 2014 07:06 PM (fpSpD)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:06 PM (0FSuD)
Win 8 and Win 7 are basically the same except for the Start and App screens, which are pretty close to useless on a desktop or laptop. However, on Win 8.1 you can easily set it to boot directly to the desktop so you don't even have to mess with the Start and App screens. I'd say go with Win 8 just because the support life span will be longer than Win 7.
Posted by: booger at February 17, 2014 07:06 PM (xRDdL)
Posted by: seamrog at February 17, 2014 07:06 PM (AugFh)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 07:06 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 07:06 PM (6E7W2)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 17, 2014 07:07 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 07:07 PM (bCEmE)
Every year, without fail, I open up the dryer completely and get in there with a slim vacuum nozzle.
The #1 place for structure fires to begin in homes in North America is in garages.
The #1 place for fires to start in garages is in clothes dryers.
A pretty much unbelievable amount of lint gets past the lint trap. Some ends up caked along the hot air ducting. Some escapes into the inner works via seams. I make sure it's all gone inside and out, and that the entire path from dryer drum to outside vent is completely clean again.
Go vacuum the coils of the fridge and freezer while you're at it. This isn't meant to save you from a fire. It's meant to save you money on your utility bills.
Oh, and it might be wise to put a networked smoke detector in the garage. I believe that's code these days.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 07:07 PM (gqT4g)
My current washing machine is on life support. The timer won't advance on its on anymore.
Posted by: ALH at February 17, 2014 07:07 PM (btTLZ)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:08 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 07:08 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 17, 2014 07:09 PM (mHWo2)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 07:09 PM (VvCsn)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:10 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Weirddave at February 17, 2014 07:10 PM (N/cFh)
Manually cycle each breaker. Old ones will sometimes trip without the lever noticeably moving. If you find that, replace accordingly.
Or if you have a voltmeter, it's a piece of cake to check that the receptacle is live on the appropriate slots.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 07:10 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:11 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Tami at February 17, 2014 11:07 PM (bCEmE)
Maybe, I wouldn't expect it to last very long, were it me. Plus that's kinda small, I hope you have good eyes.
Thing is, if you need to use other ms products, then you gotta stay with windows, but if you just need something for the internet, install ubuntu on your current laptop, it doesn't even need to overwrite the existing os.
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 17, 2014 07:11 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: president o'bumbles at February 17, 2014 07:12 PM (vAnfs)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 07:12 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 07:12 PM (6E7W2)
Posted by: thunderb at February 17, 2014 07:13 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 07:14 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 07:14 PM (mQwL2)
Posted by: Iowa Bob at February 17, 2014 07:14 PM (SREVj)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:14 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 07:14 PM (6E7W2)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 07:15 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:15 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (mQwL2)
Excellent! Now see if it works -- but review @269, first -- it's good advice.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mr.John Flint at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (6E7W2)
Posted by: freaked at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: Baraka O'Douche at February 17, 2014 07:16 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 07:17 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:17 PM (0FSuD)
>> Or if you have a voltmeter, it's a piece of cake to check that the receptacle is live on the appropriate slots.
two other things to check if you have that voltmeter
Resistance across the heating coil - open circuit or infinity means a bad coil (reads as O.L on a Fluke model)
Resistance across that fuse you just pulled, better to make sure it actually was a blown fuse - just to possibly save you thast $10
Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 07:17 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 07:17 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 07:18 PM (mQwL2)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 07:18 PM (VvCsn)
Pretty decent. I recently set up several of those for a client who needed to retire all of their XP boxes.
They generally behaved pretty well, though I had one occasion when I had to do a forced powerdown after it failed to come back from hibernation.
I assume you're looking at a refurb.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 07:18 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:18 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 07:19 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 07:19 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 07:19 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 07:19 PM (GEICT)
I had to take all my laundry to the laundromat today *shudder*
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 11:16 PM (6E7W2)
Poor thing.
sympathetic {{{{{Lauren}}}}}
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 07:19 PM (mQwL2)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 07:19 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:19 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: booger at February 17, 2014 07:20 PM (xRDdL)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:20 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 07:20 PM (HVff2)
Lenovo ThinkPad Edge 68852BU 15.6" Notebook - Intel Core i5 2.60 GHz - 4 GB RAM - 500 GB HDD - DVD-Writer - Intel HD 4000 Graphics - Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64-bit - 1366 x 768 Display - Bluetooth
Posted by: Tami at February 17, 2014 11:15 PM (bCEmE)
You are set on getting a new one? That could work, similar to what I have gotten in the past. Haven't really had major issues with them, one or two might have a sticking key, but you could do worse.
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 17, 2014 07:21 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:22 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 07:22 PM (bCEmE)
Lenovo do outlet sales via their own Web site.
Carefully read reviews. Some of their stuff is no longer built to the classic tanklike ThinkPad standards.
They have traditionally supported old hardware for longer than just about anyone else in the business. (Some institutional buyers who traditionally favored IBM have slow hardware refresh cycles. Lenovo inherited that tradition.) So if you plan to own the machine long enough to run it into the ground, they're a good bet.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 07:22 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2014 07:22 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 07:22 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 07:23 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 17, 2014 07:23 PM (BAS5M)
$360? Not bad. I'm writing this on a Dell Inspiron 15, with slightly weaker specs than above, but I paid $299 at Best Buy new over a year ago. Win 8, unfortunately.
It handles the tasks I want it to, and I don't play games on it. It does have a 15" screen which helps for tiny text sites, as you can blow them up some.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 07:23 PM (wNF3N)
Where are you shopping? I would expect to pay more the $99 for a 1 TB 2.5" drive.
Even a 240 GB SSD can be had for under $150 these days. Which would actually be perfectly adequate if she isn't carrying around a lot of video files. An external drive can easily make up that deficit.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 07:24 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 07:24 PM (mQwL2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 07:24 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:24 PM (0FSuD)
Newegg sells a Seagate 320 GB 2.5" drive for $40.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 07:25 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 07:26 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at February 17, 2014 07:26 PM (0AKks)
Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2014 07:26 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 17, 2014 07:26 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:27 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 17, 2014 07:27 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 07:27 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 07:27 PM (aDwsi)
So that's where my wang went!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 17, 2014 07:28 PM (kVfSG)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 07:28 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 07:28 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Lauren at February 17, 2014 11:14 PM (6E7W2)
As opposed to Hewlett Packards, which are cheap pieces of absolute shit.
Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2014 07:28 PM (LI48c)
Oh they will easily get much more compounding than 5% or 12% interest in the burning times, but with inflation at zimbabwe% their 700 grand should get them a coffee and a sammich.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 17, 2014 07:28 PM (n0DEs)
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 07:29 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 07:29 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 07:29 PM (mQwL2)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 17, 2014 07:30 PM (bCEmE)
Some People Just Can't Be Happy
Or see other people happy. Because desperate need for attention. Exhibit A: February 14th.
could have just linked one of Moo Moo's comments for that exhibit.
Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2014 07:30 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 07:30 PM (DmNpO)
OK raid 4 velociraptors. I can keep playing this game till we reach the capacity of the southbridge.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 17, 2014 07:30 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:30 PM (doBIb)
Apocryphally (I have not tried this myself), Windows 8 can be coerced to use the classic Windows shell instead of the dopey new smartphone derived interface.
It is still pretty much Windows 7 at lower levels of the OS. Really it's the interface that people find so counterintuitive and frustrating.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 07:31 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Carol at February 17, 2014 07:31 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 17, 2014 07:31 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 07:31 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 07:31 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 07:31 PM (mQwL2)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 07:31 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: seamrog at February 17, 2014 07:32 PM (AugFh)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:32 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 11:31 PM (gqT4g)
Supposedly they improved things under the hood in Win8, but none of that matters with that UI. I'm sure someone else can come up with a sufficient car analogy. 
Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 17, 2014 07:32 PM (IPz9m)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 07:32 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 07:32 PM (VvCsn)
The low end models from Lenovo are as crappy as anyone's. We do work for Lenovo at events, especially CES, and we have to keep a certain number of Lenovo machines on hand because they don't want anything else to be seen in their booth/location. The Core i3 models we got in late 2012 had a lot of the same annoyances I found in cheap laptops in general. It's simply a limitation of what can be done for the price.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 07:33 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 17, 2014 07:33 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:33 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 07:34 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 07:34 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 07:34 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 07:34 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 07:34 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2014 07:34 PM (JMmQ9)
Sic transit gloria.
I still sling around a vintage HP 15C scientific calculator that I'm sure I will be buried with, assuming the ecoholics haven't prohibited such practices as doubleplusungreen by the time I shuffle off this mortal coil.
A once great engineering company done in by the rise to absolute power of the nontechnical managerial class. "Why, they're just nerds and geeks. We can do far better. We understand MARKETING, which is all you need, really."
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 07:35 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 07:35 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: RWC at February 17, 2014 07:36 PM (hPZii)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 07:36 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:36 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 07:37 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 07:37 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 07:37 PM (mQwL2)
I'm dreading buying a new smartphone this week - any tips on result good phones & the best plans / providers?
I'm used to a Samsung S2 on T-Mobile now.
It'll be my only source of internet for a while, btw. I want unlimited data, but can handle low volume phone/text.
Thanks.
Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 11:32 PM (VvCsn)
I've got an iPhone 5 on Verizon. And honestly it is a functional phone. I had a droid before and while there are some aspects of Apple that are maddening, like their OS updates, but you can say the same for an Android. It does some stuff I like, and there were some features my droid had that I wished it had as well, such as widgets, and holding down the keys to select numbers and punctuations instead of always switching to the numbers keyboard.
Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2014 07:37 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 07:38 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 17, 2014 07:38 PM (84gbM)
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 17, 2014 07:38 PM (BAS5M)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 07:38 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 17, 2014 07:38 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:38 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: fuckin math at February 17, 2014 07:39 PM (q0r5L)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 07:39 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 07:39 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 07:39 PM (HVff2)
Right click on the image, use 'copy image location'. Paste that in a new tab, and it pops right up by itself.
PS I'm not Maet.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 07:40 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 07:40 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 07:40 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:40 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Gigny at February 17, 2014 07:40 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:41 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 07:41 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 07:41 PM (At8tV)
The idea that you could put $4 billion a year into an account somewhere and actually get 5% growth every year for 65 straight without something imploding. Interest doesn't magically appear out of the ether-whatever entity is holding the funds must in turn loan them out and generate better than 5% return every year. Since we have never had 10 consecutive years of 5% GDP growth (a fact that repeatedly comes up in relation to bullshit balanced budget proposals 10 years out), 65 is completely out of the question. Which means the entity overseeing the program must be making better decisions than the general economy. For 65 years.
Unless the plan is to park it at the federal reserve and just print the extra funds 65 years from now, in which case, eh, why not it's not like the country or the fed will be around that long anyway.
Posted by: Methos at February 17, 2014 07:41 PM (hO9ad)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 17, 2014 07:42 PM (mHWo2)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 07:42 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Mindy at February 17, 2014 07:42 PM (mQwL2)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 07:43 PM (ojnk6)
I've been on Sprint for a while now and yeah, their coverage is......not great and 4g is still spotty at best. The unlimited data makes up for it a little bit, if you go to Sprint get an iPhone instead of Android, i've used both on their network and the iPhone just works better.
Posted by: booger at February 17, 2014 07:43 PM (xRDdL)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 07:43 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Count de Monet at February 17, 2014 11:38 PM (BAS5M
Its because they bought Compaq for me. Every Compaq I encountered from junior high to college, was absolute shit. And it seems like after that I had friends with HP products and once again pieces of shit.
Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2014 07:43 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: D-Lamp at February 17, 2014 07:43 PM (bb5+k)
Posted by: cm9000 at February 17, 2014 07:44 PM (3qZbZ)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2014 07:44 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:44 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 07:44 PM (HVff2)
Ouch. Keenly felt sympathies. The sort of thing that is tough to hear.
But still, a medical team who admit that they don't have a definitive diagnosis is still to be preferred to one who have latched on to the wrong diagnosis and won't relinquish it.
Have they taken him off the meds they were using to try to get his fluid accumulation under control? To rule out a side effect?
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 07:45 PM (gqT4g)
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Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 07:46 PM (0LHZx)
Except the CD interface will likely be SATA-2, at best. The I/O capability in low-end and older models is the big constraint.
For my next laptop, if that should happen any time soon, I want a 2nd gen mSATA slot for the boot volume and 2.5" slot for a high capacity platter drive that will be powered down most of the time. If you want to watch a video file, it can be most effective for battery life to copy it to the SSD and watch from there while the platter drive goes to sleep. That way the data is transferred at maximum speed rather than having the drive spinning for the duration.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 07:47 PM (bPxS6)
Ah ha hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah... RPN FTW.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 07:47 PM (gqT4g)
Hmmm.....where is that from?
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 07:48 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 07:48 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 07:48 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:48 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Deety - 02/15 truther at February 17, 2014 07:49 PM (D8ONs)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 07:49 PM (At8tV)
Sic transit gloria.
I still sling around a vintage HP 15C scientific calculator that I'm sure I will be buried with, assuming the ecoholics haven't prohibited such practices as doubleplusungreen by the time I shuffle off this mortal coil.
A once great engineering company done in by the rise to absolute power of the nontechnical managerial class. "Why, they're just nerds and geeks. We can do far better. We understand MARKETING, which is all you need, really."
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 11:35 PM (gqT4g) Hide posts from (gqT4g)
....which is pretty much the story of Obama.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 07:50 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:53 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 07:54 PM (ojnk6)
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Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 07:55 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:55 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 07:55 PM (GEICT)
And while the citizens of Oakland appear to be well armed and have plenty of ammo, they don't appear to be disciplined in their use, as ole Georgie recommended in that quote.
I'd surely like to see those yoots come down here to the MS Coast and pull those tricks, though. They'd get to see moar guns, cops, badges, tasers, dogs, guns, billyclubs, handcuffs, guns, and jail cells than they even thought existed.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 07:56 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: BO in DC at February 17, 2014 07:56 PM (DI+ja)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 07:56 PM (doBIb)
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Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 07:56 PM (rDidD)
I would disagree. The different brands have specific things they like to emphasize. For instance, if you favor the clitoral simulator pointing device in the keyboard, Lenovo is the brand most likely to offer that, as they acquired the patent in the purchase of IBM's PC business.
You can have five brands all coming out of the same factory but it can be the little details that distinguish them. The trick is getting enough decent review info to derive a preference.
I am reminded of visiting the Mitac booth back in the days when I'd work CeBIT. It would be funny to see a familiar item and see how many different companies marketed it under their own brand in their particular region.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 07:57 PM (bPxS6)
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Posted by: Nip Sip at February 17, 2014 07:58 PM (0FSuD)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 07:58 PM (GEICT)
It's about LAN parties. The really intense gamers cannot bear the latency that creeps into WAN connections.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 07:58 PM (bPxS6)
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Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 07:59 PM (0LHZx)
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Posted by: The Reverse Polish Hat at February 17, 2014 08:03 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 08:03 PM (GEICT)
If you're still on, if you would have a question for you. Have you heard of Joel Greenblatt and his "magic formula investing" technique, and if so what are your thoughts on it? It's basically a value strategy that looks at earnings yield and return on capital.
I started following it with a large portion of my 401K from a previous job (about 20% of my overall savings). I can't follow it to the letter, because I hate a lot of debt exposure and I want some degree of balance by sector, so I filter it down a little further, but overall it seems like it makes sound financial sense
Posted by: Dave S. at February 17, 2014 08:04 PM (UvR6d)
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Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 08:04 PM (0LHZx)
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Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 08:05 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 08:05 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: freaked at February 17, 2014 08:06 PM (JdEZJ)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 17, 2014 08:06 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 08:06 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 17, 2014 08:07 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 08:07 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: The Reverse Polish Hat at February 17, 2014 08:08 PM (AymDN)
Deety, your situation is fairly 'normal' for someone in distressed financial straits. Ignore Moo Moo the Asshole, who obviously has never been in your shoes.
Scrimp and save, get a second job if you have the time at all, and keep making the notes until you can buy out the title loan. Then you begin to have options. Including just keeping the car with no payments.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 08:09 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 08:09 PM (ojnk6)
But of course the tough part is, a job is required to save, the existing car is needed to make it to the job, the loan is required to retain the car. As I understand the matter. Quite the three-pipe problem, Watson.
One thing I have been anecdotally told is that Government Motors are still aggressively writing new-vehicle auto loans to anyone who can vaguely fog a mirror. Must move product at any cost to keep the union assembly lines humming. Would not normally be caught dead anywhere near one of those dealerships, but, any port in a storm.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 08:09 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 08:09 PM (GEICT)
I say this is one who gave my house back to the bank last year, am living in relative squalor to make ends meet, and am putting away a pittance every paycheck to get back on track. Dammit, we do what we must. I don't even have my garden anymore--that's the price one pays for living on the cheap, it's damned hard to economize.
BUT my family is intact, has food, clothing and shelter, and it gives me all sorts of opportunities to learn and successfully deploy all manner of new curse words.
Posted by: tcn at February 17, 2014 08:10 PM (fwcEs)
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Well then it's a good damn thing you haven't found yourself in desperate straights then, isn't it.
Consider yourself blessed. Lacking in empathy and compassion, but blessed. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 18, 2014 12:00 AM (DmNpO) Hide posts from (DmNpO)
Well said.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 08:10 PM (T1005)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 08:10 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 17, 2014 08:10 PM (DmNpO)
There are almost twice that many just playing Warcraft.
http://www.wowwiki.com/WoW_Census
Obviously those aren't all US players, but there are many other online games, and plenty of folks who play offline only single player games.
Posted by: Methos at February 17, 2014 08:11 PM (hO9ad)
Supposedly the inventory backlog is getting scary and some serious discounting may be happening this year.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 08:11 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: AltonJackson, RPN Fan at February 17, 2014 08:11 PM (JMmQ9)
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Posted by: cm9000 at February 17, 2014 11:44 PM (3qZbZ)
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I don't think it's as bad as people think. The numbers are staggering on the surface. You hear of billions this billions that. And in a vacuum those are big numbers. But what people don't remember is that these big numbers aren't coming due tomorrow. They're due over decades. And it took decades to get into the mess.
There will be a few muni bankruptcies along the way, no doubt. But I don't see the calamity of the doom/gloom crowd happening. States/cities will be forced to take corrective measures. And they are slowly but surely doing so. Scott Walker turned his state around in a couple of years and now has $1B surplus. As bad as things are they can be turned around pretty quickly. Just need the political will. And eventually math dictates that political will.
Now there are the extreme cases like Detroit that are beyond salvation. But these are the exceptions, not the rule. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 18, 2014 12:04 AM (0LHZx) Hide posts from (0LHZx)
Just for the record, I disagree -- I think the political will to get politician's hands off our property and out of our pockets is gone.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 08:12 PM (T1005)
Night all.
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at February 17, 2014 08:13 PM (kxSZr)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 08:13 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 08:13 PM (doBIb)
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Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 08:14 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 08:15 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: freaked at February 17, 2014 08:15 PM (JdEZJ)
Spurious attributions.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 17, 2014 08:15 PM (kVfSG)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 08:16 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: RWC at February 17, 2014 08:16 PM (hPZii)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 08:16 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 08:18 PM (doBIb)
Is it? I'm not watching, but that's why they ditched Conan, you know he's gotta be watching it and thinking what the hell man?
Posted by: booger at February 17, 2014 08:18 PM (xRDdL)
I felt like throwing something at the tv for most of the she.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 18, 2014 12:15 AM (GEICT)
I saw the fat gay guy on Conan once. He said he's basically playing his mother for the character. I watched a couple episodes when it began but it really held no "must watch" stuff for me.
Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2014 08:18 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 08:19 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 08:19 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 08:19 PM (VvCsn)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 17, 2014 08:19 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 08:20 PM (doBIb)
A friend of mine sold off his ancient grad school hooptie car to a nephew just getting his learner's permit. $2000. Blue book value. He made the kid sign a contract that the kid would not sell the car onward without approval.
Why?
My friend put it like this: that it was a simple, reliable vehicle which had enjoyed impeccable preventative maintenance. And that it would almost certainly give another hundred thousand miles of service with reasonable basic care.
And, he went on to say, if the car was sold it would pull only roughly $2000 or less in sale proceeds. But finding another car to replace it, for that little money, with equally good prospects of long term faithful service, is a VERY chancy proposition. Odds strongly favor getting stuck with someone else's money-pit lemon.
So, cars that have been owned for a while and that are known quantities really are something to be taken into account when making vehicle ownership decisions.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 08:20 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 08:21 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 17, 2014 08:21 PM (oFCZn)
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Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at February 17, 2014 08:22 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: The No-Kill Hat at February 17, 2014 08:22 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 08:24 PM (GEICT)
Yeah, when it was Conan and Andy and Max it was a great show, still good without Andy, but not as good as with him.
Posted by: booger at February 17, 2014 08:24 PM (xRDdL)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 08:25 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 08:26 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: AltonJackson, RPN Fan at February 17, 2014 08:27 PM (JMmQ9)
Think of it as abortion up to the 75th trimester.
There was a Philip K. Dick story, 'The Unpeople' IIRC, that posited a near future in which you had the power of life or death over your kid until the age of 12. Any older and it would have been the end of the species by dint of teenage attitude.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 08:27 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 17, 2014 08:28 PM (mHWo2)
thinking he's not going to make it. He's trying to get Leno's audience
and they're older. This stuff is full of hipster youngish type shit.
That demo isn't going to watch this show."
Well, I certainly won't be watching it, but I'll be nursing a painfully engorged schadenboner at the thought of the arrogant limousine liberals at NBC having an expensive flameout of one of their marquee franchises.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 08:28 PM (gqT4g)
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Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 08:30 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 08:30 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 08:31 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 17, 2014 08:31 PM (kqGWM)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 08:32 PM (GEICT)
Yeah yeah, gimme a bayonet any ole day ncj. No moving parts and less weight.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 08:33 PM (wNF3N)
Posted by: The Nuclear Family's Hat at February 17, 2014 08:33 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 17, 2014 08:34 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 17, 2014 08:34 PM (kqGWM)
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Posted by: navycopjoe at February 17, 2014 08:35 PM (At8tV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcCNcgoyG_0
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 08:35 PM (wNF3N)
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 08:36 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 17, 2014 08:37 PM (GEICT)
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Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 08:42 PM (doBIb)
Posted by: freaked at February 17, 2014 10:51 PM (JdEZJ)
You could upholster one with sandpaper, and call it "Goodbye Pussy".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2014 08:42 PM (60Q+L)
Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 17, 2014 08:43 PM (Usdw3)
At one point, my uncle said this about my cousin: "She doesn't know how to be poor." And it's true. You've got Master-level qualifications, as does my dad (2-room tarpaper shack in Western Colorado, that got gas heat in 1971 and indoor plumbing in 1973 -- when my dad and uncle went back to install 'em). I've never had it that bad, but the BH laughs when I drain the last of a bottle of shampoo into a new bottle.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 08:43 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 17, 2014 08:44 PM (oFCZn)
The sad part is that people who used to be treated like shit here are now after their period of acceptance treating other people like shit
Neitzsche said "Even in the slave I saw the will to be master".
Posted by: MAx at February 17, 2014 08:45 PM (b7yum)
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Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 17, 2014 08:55 PM (aDwsi)
The sad part is that people who used to be treated like shit here are now after their period of acceptance treating other people like shit
Neitzsche said "Even in the slave I saw the will to be master". Posted by: MAx at February 18, 2014 12:45 AM (b7yum) Hide posts from (b7yum)
I don't think the dynamic exactly works that way. I mean, we get out-and-out trolls coming in here and they get to post for a while before being zapped. We've had people go through a wide variety of arcs in how they treated people or how people treated them. It's not "take a bunch of shit, get your bones, then start dishing it out" at all.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 08:55 PM (T1005)
Posted by: AltonJackson, RPN Fan at February 17, 2014 08:55 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 17, 2014 08:56 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 17, 2014 08:56 PM (zfY+H)
Posted by: Random Trivia at February 18, 2014 12:48 AM (Aif/5)
Get me some 30.06 bitch!
(Actually, the best role he ever played.)
Posted by: RWC at February 18, 2014 12:50 AM (hPZii)
Probably took them 50 takes to get it in. He couldn't get through skits in SNL without breaking out laughing. Especially with the equally unfunny Horatio Sanz. I'm guessing Fallon won the coveted spot under Michaels desk though since he's the one that got the Late Night gig.
Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2014 08:56 PM (LI48c)
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Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 08:57 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: The Gamster Hat at February 17, 2014 08:58 PM (AymDN)
A time will come -- and not long from now -- when thinking of such basic frugality as "a little weird" will come to be thought of as a little weird.
The people who simply must have the very newest and best of everything at all times (bought on EZ credit) and who have no concept of being able to maintain and repair, mend and make do? Boned. Epochally so.
I just don't know what part of Inevitable Chaotic National Bankruptcy is failing to get through to people. Maybe with much higher volume and fewer polysyllabic words.
"Tonight's top story: the country is circling the drain. And now, here is Garrett Morris of the New York Academy For The Hearing-Impaired, with simultaneous translation."
"THE! COUNTRY! IS! CIRCLING! THE! DRAIN!"
Thank you, good night, and have a pleasant tomorrow.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 08:58 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Dendritic at February 17, 2014 08:59 PM (8Z8Vp)
Posted by: EC at February 17, 2014 09:01 PM (doBIb)
absolute power of the nontechnical managerial class. "Why, they're just
nerds and geeks. We can do far better. We understand MARKETING, which is
all you need, really."
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 11:35 PM (gqT4g)
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I can see where you are coming from but I don't think it's quite the whole story.
Yeah, who DOESN'T hate the Marketing Weenies?
But they fulfill a VITAL role in this new "information economy"!
Without their tireless efforts to misunderstand, misapprehend, miss-communicate, be tirelessly, obstinately, obliviously, relentlessly fucking forever ignorant of any department outside their own "work-sphere" where would we be?
Maybe, Outside Sales people wouldn't feel like such unsupported JACK-HOLES, when they are told to push a new product?
Maybe, some Project Managers' wouldn't feel like such tools when a Sales Creep has to climb a legitimate question up the ladder?
I dunno...
Probably, MY FAULT.
Sales Creeps should NEVER ask questions about the Product.
Not when we have "Marketers" to tell us When and Where and How Many Tweets...
Posted by: Deety - 02/15 truther at February 18, 2014 12:51 AM (D8ONs) Hide posts from (D8ONs)
The BH's sister is in Marketing. She's a great example of Heinlein's old quote: "Man is not a rational animal; Man is a rationalizing animal."
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 09:01 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 17, 2014 09:07 PM (HxSXm)
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Posted by: kbdabear at February 17, 2014 09:09 PM (aTXUx)
Oh, you had a sketch. We would have loved to have had a sketch! It would have been like a palace to us. Room to spread out. All 225 of us had to fit into a single one-liner. Without a rim shot.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 17, 2014 09:10 PM (gqT4g)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 17, 2014 09:10 PM (zfY+H)
Any particular reason why the government should be doing this at all? Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 18, 2014 01:04 AM (jVaLp) Hide posts from (jVaLp)
I don't recall seeing it in Article 1, section 8....but, then, I don't see 90% of today's Federal leviathan in Article 1, section 8 either.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 09:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: AltonJackson, RPN Fan at February 17, 2014 09:12 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: Waterhouse at February 17, 2014 09:14 PM (XSlQF)
>>> Joe Morgan started out one of my favorite announcers and went off the rails at some point. I'm not sure he's getting work anywhere now.
Owns a Honda dealership in Monroe, OH now
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Posted by: cthulhu at February 18, 2014 12:43 AM (T1005)
My wife shakes her head at me taking the sliver of soap and turning them into a Frankenstein bar. Looks funny as hell, but I get about 3 weeks out of that bar. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at February 18, 2014 01:18 AM (HxSXm) Hide posts from (HxSXm)
I do that, too, but I don't get nearly that much time with 'em. After being ridiculously smooth until about the age of 23, I now occasionally get comments about ursine ancestry.
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Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 17, 2014 09:35 PM (TGgNi)
>>> There's a little depression on the top side that's perfect for pressing whatever is left of the previous bar of Coast.
Those odd shapes in todays bars of soap are there to reduce the surface area that comes into contact with the soap holder when you leave it in the shower. Reason is to reduce how soft the soap gets from sitting in the water.
I'll take stupid crap I've learned from being in a manufacturing plant for $500, Alex
Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 09:36 PM (KDUNf)
If you do that it will last about 3 to 4 times longer.
Just put it out in the sun.
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Posted by: AltonJackson, RPN Fan at February 17, 2014 09:36 PM (JMmQ9)
>>> Toilet paper especially
The BH is absolutely insane about this. She has enough stocked up so that we are safe for a looooong time, when the burining time comes
Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 09:38 PM (KDUNf)
Those odd shapes in todays bars of soap are there to reduce the surface area that comes into contact with the soap holder when you leave it in the shower. Reason is to reduce howsoft the soap gets from sitting in the water.
I'll take stupid crap I've learned from being in a manufacturing plant for $500, Alex Posted by: PMRich at February 18, 2014 01:36 AM (KDUNf) Hide posts from (KDUNf)
That.....and to sneak in a product-reduction without price reduction. I use Dial and still have "fat" bars and "thin" bars.
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Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 17, 2014 09:41 PM (jVaLp)
The BH is absolutely insane about this. She has enough stocked up so that we are safe for a looooong time, when the burining time comes Posted by: PMRich at February 18, 2014 01:38 AM (KDUNf) Hide posts from (KDUNf)
Which reminds me -- I need to do a Walmart run, I only have three 24-roll packs left.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 09:41 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 17, 2014 09:43 PM (jVaLp)
The shapes started before the thin bars.
All of the different ad-mixes for various products do really affect bottom line though.
I've made a variety of different products over the years - it's actually kind of cool to learn about the different technologies.
Moon floss
Dry Laundry detergent
Bar soap
A certain fat-free cooking oil
Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 09:43 PM (KDUNf)
631 cthulhu
It's just I've had bad experiences running out of those two items.
Always plan for unplanned showers. Sometimes, it's for the best ...
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And, in a pinch, you can wash your hair with bar soap. Been there, done that.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 09:44 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 17, 2014 09:45 PM (TGgNi)
Comrade, do not be alarmed by our late night knock on the door. We must merely redistribute to the masses the necessary supplies you have selfishly hoarded.
Your trial as an economic wrecker will be a mere formality.
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Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 17, 2014 09:48 PM (jVaLp)
All of the different ad-mixes for various products do really affect bottom line though.
I've made a variety of different products over the years - it's actually kind of cool to learn about the different technologies.
Moon floss
Dry Laundry detergent
Bar soap
A certain fat-free cooking oil
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One of the things I'm investing in, lately, is becoming more proficient at making things.....'cause this may be extremely valuable information during periods of supply-chain disruption.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 09:49 PM (T1005)
Problem is that I'm not much of a liquor drinker.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 09:51 PM (T1005)
I keep making notes to myself to get squared away with a moonshining rig and a stash of ingredients. One of those projects I will handle after I am handed a Round Tuit.
High proof grain alcohol has a TON of uses beyond merely getting plastered.
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It could get ugly after that... Posted by: AltonJackson, RPN Fan at February 18, 2014 01:47 AM (JMmQ9) Hide posts from (JMmQ9)
Is that at Sheryl Crow consumption levels, or do you really have that much?
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I keep making notes to myself to get squared away with a moonshining rig and a stash of ingredients. One of those projects I will handle after I am handed a Round Tuit.
High proof grain alcohol has a TON of uses beyond merely getting plastered.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 18, 2014 01:51 AM (gqT4g) Hide posts from (gqT4g)
Yeah, I'm headed that direction too -- I've got a Corny mini-keg of my "proof-of-concept" brew but haven't gotten the damned kegerator ready for it yet. Once I can brew beer reliably, the next obvious step is to fill it full of other crap and distill it.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 09:56 PM (T1005)
If I actually retained all of the gardening knowledge my father had tried to impart on us.... half the backyard was always a garden growing up
Now I'm trying to relearn it all. Glad he answers all my questions now.
Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 09:57 PM (KDUNf)
Squeezing the old sliver of soap to the new one? Amateur hour.
When I visited my Grandfather in Port Angeles, WA, he had a jar of soap slivers in the basement - he made his own bars of soap out of the sludge. He also made his own wine, reloaded his ammo, made his furniture and half of his tools.
Hell, he made the A-frame cabin he lived in from the trees on the property he bought in the early 70's... The original prepper.
His garden would put most of us to shame, and he also knew where all the wild food grew locally (i bet we picked six 5 gallon buckets of blackberries in about an hour).
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As I said, earlier -- Hammer's got good skills; I don't know if I could pass for Journeyman, but I know way more than the Pajama-Boys and Occupy-ers do.
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Posted by: The Dude at February 17, 2014 10:05 PM (bStrg)
Sounds like your gramps could do master-classes, too -- although the skill set for Hammer (urban setting) and your gramps (more rural) don't have a lot of overlap, the mindset involved is the most critical part.
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The view from his porch was amazing. Literally, the Olympic mountains.
I actually have pics of me standing on 100 year old stumps on his property - easily eight feet in diameter. Posted by: shredded chi at February 18, 2014 02:07 AM (VvCsn) Hide posts from (VvCsn)
And that's what you can get with dogged persistence, and a bit of skill exercised wisely -- if you don't buy into all the "intellectual elite" BS.
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The flood of attempts to catch the number was more enthusiastic than usual. No deeper significance than that.
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Actually, you may or may not catch me up in that net, depending on the precise way that questions are worded.
I believe that the time of year when you were born has an effect on you....and this may have been chronicled in the language of astrology....whereas the actual mechanism of astrology is entirely unscientific....and is furthermore made ridiculous by the precession of the equinoxes.
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Posted by: cthulhu at February 18, 2014 02:21 AM (T1005)
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius! Posted by: model_1066 at February 18, 2014 02:26 AM (LIQGY) Hide posts from (LIQGY)
Seriously, though -- if you start out with "kids born right before harvest time are fat, but feel neglected" because their initial moments on the planet were when mom and dad were frantically gathering stuff so they wouldn't starve in winter....it makes tons of sense that there'd be a lot of pre-scientific knowledge wrapped up in the language of astrology.....but when all that is perma-bonded to stars and planets that, over centuries, end up in Spring, you get the totally bogus pseudo-science we have today.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 10:33 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 10:37 PM (rDidD)
I know it sucks, but do what you have to to get past this. Two, three jobs? Pay the the exorbitant rare for a while, save, then get something else?
I'll be crawling under a house tomorrow working for pennies, but it will pay the power bill, and I'm thankful to have the work. Believe me, I know how you feel - but it's going to get better.
Posted by: shredded chi at February 18, 2014 12:19 AM (VvCsn)
Has the title loan company put a tracking or disabling device on the car?
Yeah, they have now, you bet your ass!
(Funny how I read that, about the GPS, in the New Contract, when I was "re-applying" today for my loan, waiting for "Rafeael" to "check my odometer" whilst I "re-applied".)
Went outside and watched them do it, for a bit..
Honestly, I'm totally OK with that.
If I'm not paying the loan, I think they should have SOME handle on the collateral, no?
I have NOT updated my driver's licence since I was evicted for the EXPRESS reason that my car not be seized.
I once told a collections officer the hours and address of my (secure) place of work.
It has made them CRAZY, the way I won't voluntarily update.
Posted by: Deety - 02/15 truther at February 18, 2014 02:30 AM (D8ONs) Hide posts from (D8ONs)
What state are you in, Deety? The laws for such things vary immensely from one to another.
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agreed. similarly, when you look at things such as the impact of modern schooling, cut off dates for enrolling and similar things, it is easy to see how certain traits could predominate in people born at in certain months. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 18, 2014 02:37 AM (rDidD) Hide posts from (rDidD)
Which is why, depending on the exact wording of the question asked, I could end up being touted by CNN as either an astrology believer or firmly anti-astrology.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 10:40 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: yankeefifth at February 17, 2014 10:43 PM (rDidD)
Now if someone would like to post a thorough debunking of this, let the light shine through.
I worked with a chemist, a very Christian man as well, who was a huge astrology buff.
My conclusion? It takes all kinds.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 10:43 PM (wNF3N)
Now I find myself wondering. We know the water has been turned off to the complex or at least our group of units several times recently, thanks to the distinctive sound of air working its way through the pipes later in the day when we got home. could something they did have created a high pressure situation that compromised weak point in our home that might otherwise have held up for many more years? It seems a remarkable coincidence that two failures occurred at about the same time within close proximity to each other.
Because if this is not just old plumbing but instead something that was caused to happen, it could make a huge difference in how much repair we are able to afford.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 10:47 PM (bPxS6)
Skip tracing isn't just for bail bondsmen.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 10:48 PM (wNF3N)
I recall the most prominent book was 'What Does Joan Say?' Joan being the astrologer Nancy favored.
I sometime think a few of the weirder antics and quotes were part of a psy-op to keep the Soviets spooked.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 10:52 PM (bPxS6)
Now if someone would like to post a thorough debunking of this, let the light shine through.
I worked with a chemist, a very Christian man as well, who was a huge astrology buff.
My conclusion? It takes all kinds.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2014 02:43 AM (wNF3N) Hide posts from (wNF3N)
It does indeed.
Incidentally, there is a long, funny tale about how I met the BH through my (limited) involvement with the neopagan group, "South Bay Circles"....but that's really for another day. If you ask me about it on an ONT before comment 200, I might actually make the effort.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 10:53 PM (T1005)
Posted by: model_1066 at February 17, 2014 10:55 PM (LIQGY)
Posted by: Nanny Pelousy at February 17, 2014 10:58 PM (o6g4X)
Now I find myself wondering. We know the water has been turned off to the complex or at least our group of units several times recently, thanks to the distinctive sound of air working its way through the pipes later in the day when we got home. could something they did have created a high pressure situation that compromised weak point in our home that might otherwise have held up for many more years? It seems a remarkable coincidence that two failures occurred at about the same time within close proximity to each other.
Because if this is not just old plumbing but instead something that was caused to happen, it could make a huge difference in how much repair we are able to afford.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 18, 2014 02:47 AM (bPxS6) Hide posts from (bPxS6)
My cousin owns a plumbing company in your area. Do you want me to call in a favor, or do you trust the process you're pursuing? BTW, it would be a hoot-and-a-half if you were already dealing with him.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 10:59 PM (T1005)
The people who did much of the earlier work after the washer flood was Heys Plumbing. I don't recall the other names off the top of my head.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 17, 2014 11:06 PM (bPxS6)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2014 11:15 PM (XyM/Y)
^^^^^^^This. The guy who invented the kidney machine lived in the Oakland Hills (weird family connection) -- it is really neighborhood by neighborhood.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 11:17 PM (T1005)
In a way, this is the story of Obama.
As usual, zombie brings the light. How's that bankruptcy of Oakland going?
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 11:18 PM (wNF3N)
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Posted by: Deety - 02/15 truther at February 17, 2014 11:26 PM (D8ONs)
Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 11:26 PM (fzHss)
Yes. The depredations of gubmint.
Sounds like a a less complicated version of NYC to me.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2014 11:29 PM (wNF3N)
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Posted by: shredded chi at February 17, 2014 11:38 PM (fzHss)
>>> living as close to the ghetto as possible, while still being in a safe white zone
Nothing like playing with fire there.
/s
Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 11:39 PM (KDUNf)
Zombie
Thanks for the history / area description. The same issues are in almost every major city in the world. It is nice to have someone describe the 'local' twist on the theme.
I look at that area on google earth and the sheer volume of people located around that bay ensure that I won't be going there. How my brother has lived out in CA for so long is completely beyond me.
Posted by: PMRich at February 17, 2014 11:44 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: Adriane... at February 17, 2014 11:53 PM (qoKTg)
Maybe I'm not supposed to bring this again, but I felt I needed to:
http://www.allianceofhope.org/survivor_experience/
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 18, 2014 03:15 AM (XyM/Y) Hide posts from (XyM/Y)
I'll say straight out that I've had my own issues, but I've been in contact with Chi and I don't think either of us is as 'fragile' as Joffen. I won't speak for anyone else touched by this, but don't send thoughts and prayers my way -- send 'em towards other 'fragile' morons who need 'em more, and to the family (weirdly summarized moron info link -- http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=347189#c21788987 ) -- 'cause that's where mine are going.
And I'll say something else straight up -- don't stop caring. Don't stop reaching out. Don't hold back. Don't stifle. Never think that you're not supposed to help.
I thank you for your concern, Fenelon, and I fervently hope it gets to those who need it.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 11:56 PM (T1005)
Oh, crap -- what's wrong?!?!?
Posted by: cthulhu at February 17, 2014 11:57 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Deety - 02/15 truther at February 17, 2014 11:58 PM (D8ONs)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 18, 2014 12:02 AM (qyfb5)
Even in my current location, there are 'ghetto' locations. Areas of high segregation, mostly by choice I might add. These things are just known; not published on official maps. I think it's more a segregation by income than race; the outcome is similar though.
I think that a high status black can integrate easier into a high status neighborhood than a low class white can in a low status neighborhood. A certain 'craziness' index is needed to do Part B. 'That white boy be crazy, best to leave him and his alone.' The Second Amendment may come into play here.
Regardless of what the gubmint may decree, people will make their own judgements about where they choose to live and why.
One thing I have noticed about the HQ is the general LACK of class consciousness of the participants here. I see no putdowns of anyone striving to make a better life for themselves; the key is the striving to do so.
Not the results. Just trying.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2014 12:08 AM (wNF3N)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 18, 2014 12:14 AM (XyM/Y)
Even in my current location, there are 'ghetto' locations. Areas of high segregation, mostly by choice I might add. These things are just known; not published on official maps. I think it's more a segregation by income than race; the outcome is similar though.
I think that a high status black can integrate easier into a high status neighborhood than a low class white can in a low status neighborhood. A certain 'craziness' index is needed to do Part B. 'That white boy be crazy, best to leave him and his alone.' The Second Amendment may come into play here.
Regardless of what the gubmint may decree, people will make their own judgements about where they choose to live and why.
One thing I have noticed about the HQ is the general LACK of class consciousness of the participants here. I see no putdowns of anyone striving to make a better life for themselves; the key is the striving to do so.
Not the results. Just trying.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2014 04:08 AM (wNF3N) Hide posts from (wNF3N)
I think the majority of perceived race/class grievances in the last 20 years have been synthetic -- that is to say, fomented by those in the grievance industry.
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Posted by: model_1066 at February 18, 2014 12:20 AM (LIQGY)
I hopefully will not cease to care until I go to life eternal beyond this place and hopefully not then :^) and of course when I say "all" I mean everybody here and Joffen's family and friends too Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 18, 2014 04:14 AM (XyM/Y) Hide posts from (XyM/Y)
Oh, crud, Fenelon -- I meant no criticism. I did and do appreciate thoughts and concerns which include me....I just wanted you to know that I'm not so much worried about myself as I am worried for other folks.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 18, 2014 12:22 AM (T1005)
Normally shouldn't have to worry about the plague, but you're from out west aren't you? A quick search on plague vaccine doesn't show anything for dogs/cats. They do recommend weekly flea checks.
Up to date on rabies would be my biggest concern.
Nice to know that you got a rat eliminator.
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Posted by: shredded chi at February 18, 2014 12:42 AM (fzHss)
No I don't. I had to move to the Atlanta area next, and schools was my prime consideration for my kids. They got a great environment in te Peachtree city school system. that system, though, was purposely sought out by me in advance. MY house purchase was predicated on that system.
For seven years, their system delivered.
I had new but similar concerns as we moved to the M Gulf Coast.
Frankly, this is one of your main jobs as a parent. Find your kids a good place to learn and grow up. no one will do the job better than you.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2014 12:44 AM (wNF3N)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 18, 2014 12:53 AM (ZZX2X)
Assumed west from the times that you post.
I guess that was kinda stoopid, since I only post at night from Cincy
Posted by: PMRich at February 18, 2014 12:54 AM (KDUNf)
Assumed west from the times that you post.
I guess that was kinda stoopid, since I only post at night from Cincy
Posted by: PMRich at February 18, 2014 12:54 AM (KDUNf)
Now if someone would like to post a thorough debunking of this, let the light shine through.
I worked with a chemist, a very Christian man as well, who was a huge astrology buff.
My conclusion? It takes all kinds.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2014 02:43 AM (wNF3N)"
I can't remember the details but I seem to remember watching someone who had worked in the Reagan White House about this. His answer was that after Reagan was shot, Nancy Reagan was terrified of another assassination attempt and turned to astrology to try to influence the times that Reagan would go to places. Reagan did not believe in astrology but he did love his wife and to some extent did allow her to have some influence on the Presidential schedule, not on policy matters.
I can't offer you a cite, this is just something I remember from TV years ago.
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Posted by: shredded chi at February 18, 2014 01:34 AM (fzHss)
This is what I do to ensure I don't fall asleep.
Sitting in a control room can be pretty boring sometimes.
Posted by: PMRich at February 18, 2014 01:37 AM (KDUNf)
Nope. I'm just an insomniac.
But thanks for remindinding me that I should be asleep at this hour! Posted by: shredded chi at February 18, 2014 05:34 AM (fzHss) Hide posts from (fzHss)
Your little buddy's lookin' good?
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Posted by: cthulhu at February 18, 2014 02:26 AM (T1005)
Another 1.5 inches of GlowBull Worming fell in Baltimore over night.
And a two hour delay starting schools..
Have a blessed day Al Gore.
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Posted by: D Ace at February 18, 2014 07:05 AM (PhVkf)
Teh real Washington quote, via the lovely ladies at the MountVernon.org Estate: http://www.mountvernon.org/ educational -resources/ encyclopedia/ spurious -quotations (remove spaces)
Teh government's own compound interest calculator says a kid given $1,000 at birth at 5%, compounded daily would be $25,784.60.
Even if you contributed $1,000 PER YEAR through age 65, that would be $521,456.77.
https://investor.gov/ tools/ calculators/ compound- interest- calculator (remove spaces)
@peeteysdee
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