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February 26, 2014

Overnight Open Thread (2-26-2014)
— Maetenloch

Since I'll be on a plane when you read this, tonight will be a movie night.

And the feature presentation is.... Kingpin (1996)

This lesser known Farrelly brothers comedy stars Woody Harrelson as Roy Munson, a young pro bowler on his way to the top in 1979. That is until he loses his hand while playing on the underground bowling gambling circuit. Fast forward 17 years later and he's a loser barely making it selling alley supplies. But when he comes across a gifted Amish bowler (Randy Quaid) he sees his chance to get back into the pro game and take down the reigning champ who cost him his hand years before. Bill Murray is great as Munson's enemy/rival, Ernie McCracken.

Full movie below the fold.

US AG Eric Holder: New Policy - You Don' Have to Enforce or Defend Laws You Don't Like

Because legislatures and judges doing their thing would just slow down the system and plus we know better.

Holder said state attorneys general do not have to enforce laws they disagree with, specifically when it comes to the issue of gay marriage.

"It is highly unusual for the United States attorney general to advise his state counterparts on how and when to refuse to defend state laws. But Mr. Holder said when laws touch on core constitutional issues like equal protection, an attorney general should apply the highest level of scrutiny before reaching a decision on whether to defend it. He said the decision should never be political or based on policy objections."

At this point I'm convinced that Eric Holder could take a bribe and do a line of coke off of an under-aged hooker on live TV and nothing could be done about it.

'Google Buses', Suburbs Are Bad For Cities, Says New York MTA Official

How dare companies act in their own self-interest says the guy with a vested interest in keeping people trapped on the public bus plantation.

"The Director of Sustainability for New York's MTA is calling out Google, Apple, and Yahoo for 'deliberately' building their campuses away from public amenities like restaurants, and public transportation. 'With very few honorable exceptions like Tony Hsieh, the CEO of Zappos, who recently moved his company headquarters from suburban Henderson to downtown Las Vegas, tech companies seem not to have gotten the memo that suburbs are old and bad news,' he writes. Instead of launching their own bus services to ferry people from the city to their campuses, as the tech companies have done, the Googles and Apples of the world should 'locate themselves in existing urban communities. Ideally, in blighted ones,' says Dutta."

I remember when cities were practically bribing companies to offer car pooling and shuttle buses. But now when they actually do it - and decline to set up in expensive, crime ridden areas, they're class criminals depriving the government of its entitled income.

Prager U: Is Evil Irrational?

Dennis Prager himself helms this close look at the differences between reason and the structure of good and evil, starting off by challenging a centuries-old narrative about history's worst despots. Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and Adolf Hitler often get called "madmen" for their massive crimes against humanity, but other than the megalomania that propelled them to their positions of power, did they act irrationally?

Actually evil quite often is completely rational. Which should tell you that being rational and being moral are two completely different qualities.

Demolition Man Watch: Taco Bell Now Serving Breakfast

5 Things Movies Don't Tell You About Mental Institutions

You're allowed to bring your own stuff into a mental hospital. You're not going to be sitting in a hospital gown, barefoot, in a barren room with nothing but your pixie cut and a big Native American dude for warmth. The hospital will give you socks, at least.
Virtually every place lets you bring your own clothes, with some restrictions. No belts, shoelaces, drawstrings on hoodies or sweatpants, nothing with violent images. No Manson T-shirts or gang colors. But you can totally wear a suit or cocktail dress if you really want.

You're allowed to have visitors, and they can bring you things like books and edible food (of course, the staff searches the bags first).
...At one private hospital, I could bring my laptop and keep it in my room, cord and all. I'd do my homework and keep up with class assignments with the hospital's free Wi-Fi. I could also order delivery and have it buzzed through to the floor. You're not treated like a criminal, because you're not criminally insane. Movies often lose the distinction between the two -- normal people with mental issues aren't going into some dystopian crazy-prison, because they've done nothing wrong. They're sick, and the whole point is to help.

The Nazi 1911

They're very rare but they exist.

On September 24, 1914 the Norwegian Minister of Defense officially adopted the Colt Government Model automatic pistol, caliber .45 for use by the Norwegian armed forces.
...Kongsberg Vapenfabrikk manufactured well over 20,000 units of the M1914 in the period between 1914-1940. Early examples had a nice blue finish (although nowhere near as fine as Colt's finish on early Government Models). However by 1938 the clouds of war had gathered in Europe and Kongsberg switched to a faster and less labor intensive phosphate and enamel finish.
In 1940 the Germans invaded and quickly occupied Norway. The factory was captured and kept in operation to produce weapons for Nazi use. M1914 pistols and Krag rifles produced at the factory were transferred to Armeoberkommando Norwegen (Norwegian Army Command). Most of these weapons were used by German or Norwegian Quisling forces (Norwegians that collaborated with Germany). The M1914 pistol was designated as the Pistole 657(n) by the Germans.

The Greatest Toy Ever?

Monkeys? Check. Guns? Check. Space ships? Oh well few things in a boy's life attain perfection.

Award Winning French Fry Recipes

Including Sweet Potato Fries with Smoked Paprika Mayo:

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1 What 1st?

Posted by: UWP at February 26, 2014 04:51 PM (KAmBO)

2 >>>noting that Taco Bell intends to be a Â“strong No. 2″ after McDonaldÂ’s. You don't say.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at February 26, 2014 04:51 PM (V4CBV)

3 Taco Bell! Like the stuff we serve for lunch, our breakfast promises to be the same ingredients packaged into 5 different things.

Posted by: UWP at February 26, 2014 04:53 PM (KAmBO)

4 Glad to see Kingpin getting its due. One of the funniest comedies ever.

Posted by: Splunge at February 26, 2014 04:55 PM (qyomX)

5 Kingpin is great fun. Have a safe flight, Maet.

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 04:57 PM (dCgbN)

6 I went out with a girl once. Really nice looking. And she raved about how great Subway biscuits and gravy were. So I say, well, I like McDonalds biscuits and gravy, never tried Subway. So she says, oh man, Subway's puts McDonalds to shame! So we go there, and I have the biscuits and gravy. It sucked. Mc Donalds was still the worlds best. But of course, at the time I agreed with her that subway was far better. Then we went back to my apt and had sex. And thats my story on odd restaurants trying to serve breakfast.

Posted by: UWP at February 26, 2014 04:58 PM (KAmBO)

7 This is hilarious, from the "Military Onion" duffelblog. Government Pamphlet: Â‘What To Do When The Veteran In Your Classroom Attempts A Mass ShootingÂ’ https://tinyurl.com/kfr3rtj

Posted by: .87c at February 26, 2014 04:59 PM (qZPXs)

8 I got nothin'.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 26, 2014 04:59 PM (jucos)

9 Glad to see Kingpin getting its due. One of the funniest comedies ever. Posted by: Splunge I remember seeing Kingpin. Couldn't tell you a damn thing about it due to my middleaged memory, tho I think it was funny, in a stupid way.

Posted by: The Farmer at February 26, 2014 05:01 PM (eBupg)

10 This must be what a blog looks like after the zombie apocalypse Frightening, actually

Posted by: Sean Bannion [/i][/s][/u][/b] at February 26, 2014 05:01 PM (yz6yg)

11 Kingpin and The Big Lebowski. Funny the synergy of bowling and comedies directed by brother duos. Both movies had great "villains" as well.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:01 PM (X3GkB)

12 Wow nice ONT Maet it's early and I am going to bed.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 26, 2014 05:02 PM (TE35l)

13 Way to Munson the ONT Maet.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 26, 2014 05:02 PM (HxSXm)

14 New York Times, bringing the stupid since the 1920s.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 26, 2014 05:02 PM (30eLQ)

15 Hey, I heard that they have a new drug that combines Viagra with Ex-lax. It's called "Easy come, Easy go."

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 26, 2014 05:03 PM (8MjqI)

16 I couldabeen a contendah

Posted by: khan noonien singh at February 26, 2014 05:03 PM (QupBk)

17 6 I went out with a girl once. Really nice looking. And she raved about how great Subway biscuits and gravy were. So I say, well, I like McDonalds biscuits and gravy, never tried Subway. So she says, oh man, Subway's puts McDonalds to shame! So we go there, and I have the biscuits and gravy. It sucked. Mc Donalds was still the worlds best. But of course, at the time I agreed with her that subway was far better. Then we went back to my apt and had sex. And thats my story on odd restaurants trying to serve breakfast. Posted by: UWP at February 26, 2014 08:58 PM (KAmBO) --I've never seen biscuits and gravy for sale at Subway. Maybe it's a Southern thing? I do like the breakfast offerings at Subway more than their lunch/supper ones though.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:03 PM (X3GkB)

18 Who cares! Its hockey season.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 26, 2014 05:04 PM (60Vyp)

19 Vanessa Angel was at the peak of her hawtness in Kingpin.

The "where are my manners?" scene is classic!

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:04 PM (doBIb)

20 Subway sucks. That is all.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 05:04 PM (Q8vlx)

21 11 Kingpin and The Big Lebowski. Funny the synergy of bowling and comedies directed by brother duos. Both movies had great "villains" as well. Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 09:01 PM (X3GkB) Are you saying that "Big Ern" was the villain? I must vehemently disagree since he helped a young Roy Munson how to pick up side money, and Big Ern was a champion. Champions go for the win at all times.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 26, 2014 05:05 PM (HxSXm)

22 I'm never quick enough for this group....:-( ^..^(____)~~~

Posted by: Cheshirecat at February 26, 2014 05:05 PM (Dwytc)

23 Holder says states don't have to enforce laws they (Holder) don't like Holder expects them however to enforce laws created by fiat rather than legislation, because RACISM or HOMOPHOBIA Or maybe he just doesn't like your tie

Posted by: kbdabear at February 26, 2014 05:06 PM (aTXUx)

24 Lots of stuff to read. Thanks for the nice ONT, sir.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 26, 2014 05:06 PM (oMKp3)

25 I like The Shawshank Redemption more.

Posted by: Aaron Hernandez at February 26, 2014 05:06 PM (X3GkB)

26 Kingpin was all right. Had moments like the Amish guy getting baked on Roman Red. Had a nice bit at the end where the Amish guy's dad confronts him and Woody.

And Bill Murray was playing evil-Bill-Murray. You know, Venkman and the counselor from "Meatballs" if those guys actually were creeps, rather than decent guys under a creep facade. I prefer the fun-creepy Murray from those other two movies.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 26, 2014 05:06 PM (30eLQ)

27 Alex, I'll take famous bowling movies for $500.

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 05:06 PM (A6qKE)

28 'Lo, 'rons.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 05:07 PM (T1005)

29 Thank fucking god the NHL is back.

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 05:07 PM (dCgbN)

30 Best part of Kingpin IMO, 20 years later he's still driving his nice car, which is now a POS.

Posted by: UWP at February 26, 2014 05:07 PM (KAmBO)

31 Here's the scene with Vanessa:

http://youtu.be/NZlT80aYtqk

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:07 PM (doBIb)

32 "Bones" had a bowling episode.....

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 26, 2014 05:08 PM (8MjqI)

33 So, comparative biscuits'n'gravy sex. And no comments on that?
Can't be a southern thing. Because that would be...gritty. And red-eyed.

"Kingpin" has the eww yuckiest sex scene ever put on tape. Yak. Cannot discuss.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 05:08 PM (xq1UY)

34 For fans of Kingpin and True Detective, Woody really doesn't like other dudes mowing his lawn, does he?

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 05:09 PM (k8m83)

35 Finally, Big Ern is above the law

Posted by: Big Ern Soetoro at February 26, 2014 05:09 PM (Q6pxP)

36 Kingpin is awesome.

Posted by: steevy at February 26, 2014 05:09 PM (zqvg6)

37 Are you saying that "Big Ern" was the villain? I must vehemently disagree since he helped a young Roy Munson how to pick up side money, and Big Ern was a champion. Champions go for the win at all times. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 26, 2014 09:05 PM (HxSXm) --Hence my scare quotes around "villains." Any sports movie is more fun with a "bad guy," because sports are ultimately just entertainment and personal conflict is more entertaining than simple opposition on the field (or in the lanes).

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:09 PM (X3GkB)

38 I wonder how much that Nazi 1911 is worth?

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:10 PM (doBIb)

39 What the heck is that gibberish under "Including Sweet Potato Fries with Smoked Paprika Mayo:"?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 05:10 PM (T1005)

40 We don't have a cow. We have a bull.

Posted by: phreshone at February 26, 2014 05:11 PM (Q6pxP)

41 kingpin is one of my favorites. if you have fucked up bad, they say you have "Munsoned"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 05:11 PM (nzKvP)

42 29 Thank fucking god the NHL is back. Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 09:07 PM (dCgbN) --Amen. I can't wait to plant my arse in BWW and watch the Jets tomorrow night.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:11 PM (X3GkB)

43 Good Evening to All !!! Concerning cities vs suburbs.....God willing I will not live in either . This country girl will happily stay out in a small town in the Great State of Texas !!!! God Bless Texas !!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at February 26, 2014 05:11 PM (ShylW)

Taco Bell.

Paying someone to give you diarrhea.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 26, 2014 05:11 PM (Zn+eF)

45 "US AG Eric Holder: New Policy - You Don' Have to Enforce or Defend Laws You Don't Like" Stupid suggestion. That means that state officials don't have to protect a woman's right to abortions. It means they don't have to enforce gun control regulations that they disagree with. Of course liberals, particularly those in the media, are probably too stupid to think through the ramifications of this.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 26, 2014 05:12 PM (Uo7Tv)

46 Worst sex scene ever in kingpin. The bearded Amish women were a nice touch also.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 05:12 PM (Q8vlx)

47 Ahwooooooooooh!

Posted by: Wolfpack at February 26, 2014 05:12 PM (dfYL9)

48 As was usual with toys those days they just gave the toy guns some different paint and didn't bother making them look like the actual guns in the movie.

Posted by: steevy at February 26, 2014 05:12 PM (zqvg6)

49 Here come the bowling puns, so please spare me.

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 05:12 PM (A6qKE)

50 Aww crap. I Munsoned my previous post.

Posted by: Tilikum the Killer Assault Whale at February 26, 2014 05:13 PM (Zn+eF)

51 ESPN makes the veto the top story on their site.

Posted by: steevy at February 26, 2014 05:13 PM (zqvg6)

52 29>> I'm so mad at the US men's team. They played a freakin pre-vent de-fense for the last period and were surprised the Canadians beat them. Then they didn't even skate like they wanted a medal in the Bronze game.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 26, 2014 05:13 PM (60Vyp)

53 Here come the bowling puns, so please spare me. Posted by: seamrog
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That strikes me as somewhat discourteous to the rest of us.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:14 PM (4Mv1T)

I once had a "High Art" Bowling Shirt that I got when I was on a team. Banana Yellow with Black piping and little black bowling pins for buttons. Gustafson's Asphalt

We Lay the Best

And Service the Rest.

That's right..... we were popular with the ladies. I wish I still had that shirt.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 26, 2014 05:14 PM (jucos)

55 Thanks for the non-automated ONT, maet.

Posted by: Methos at February 26, 2014 05:14 PM (hO9ad)

56
Lets try to keep it out of the gutter...

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 26, 2014 05:15 PM (n0DEs)

57 Will they squirt the Taco Bell breakfast out of a caulking gun?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 26, 2014 05:15 PM (kVfSG)

58 52 29>> I'm so mad at the US men's team. They played a freakin pre-vent de-fense for the last period and were surprised the Canadians beat them. Then they didn't even skate like they wanted a medal in the Bronze game. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 26, 2014 09:13 PM (60Vyp) --Yeah, that really was a crappy showing. I was happy for Jokkinen (Jet) and Teemu (former Jet 1.0) getting the bronze, though.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:16 PM (X3GkB)

59 51 ESPN makes the veto the top story on their site. Posted by: steevy at February 26, 2014 09:13 PM (zqvg6) ------------------------ Oh, good grief. What the hell does this have to do with sports?!? *spit*

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 05:16 PM (dfYL9)

60 Lets try to keep it out of the gutter... Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 26 uh, in the aoshq bowling alley, there is only one inflatable bumper, it takes up the full width of the lane and goes in the middle.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:16 PM (rDidD)

61 Just talking turkey.

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 05:17 PM (A6qKE)

62 "'Google Buses', Suburbs Are Bad For Cities, Says New York MTA Official" I suspect that companies build their facilities in areas where there are fewer taxes, fewer regulations, fewer licensing issues, fewer inspections, fewer engineering studies required, and so on. In many states the cities have made themselves unfriendly to businesses, then whine when businesses build in areas where they have less crap to deal with. I swear, a lot of city councils sit around thinking up things for which to require licenses.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 26, 2014 05:17 PM (Uo7Tv)

63 With due respect to our modern mental patient, the classic asylum movies (The Snake Pit, right?) were about mental institutions of 60 or so years ago. My aunt was a nurse at a State Hospital. She tried to be kind, or at least patient, with the inmates, but it was very like a prison, they did have straitjackets, and most of them were not allowed to wear their own clothes.

One of the things we don't talk about much, what with arguing Thomas Szasz and such, is that many involuntary commitments were in lieu of kinds of insurance and aid that didn't exist back then. The horror stories were about incorrigible (and often pregnant) teenagers, but it was pretty common for Grandpa, getting a little dotty and without enough pension to keep up his own place, to get a commitment.

Or, when syphilis got to a certain point, elders were not exactly going to be taken into their nuclear family's homes. And in the 30's and 40's there was a lot of untreated syphilis.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 05:17 PM (xq1UY)

64 ESPN makes the veto the top story on their site. Posted by: steevy at February 26, 2014 09:13 PM (zqvg6) And it'll be every second or third story on SportsCenter, I'm sure. On Monday morning at the gym I noticed that the pattern was Dale, Jr.; Jason Collins; two other stories that weren't necessarily highlights; repeat.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 05:17 PM (MpP9p)

65 20 Subway sucks. That is all.

Yep tasty sammichs, like tasty biscuits & gravy require a good bread...Subway seriously lacks in this dept

Posted by: bill-o at February 26, 2014 05:17 PM (bjND7)

66 versus my peers I am a very accomplished bowler.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:17 PM (rDidD)

67 Lets try to keep it out of the gutter...
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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I'd like a perfect score with that chick in the movie.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:17 PM (4Mv1T)

68 My favorite bowling movie? Gotta be John Milius's 1983 masterpiece "Fast Lane." It had a young Patrick Swayze as a working-class kid hoping to make it big as a pro bowler, Oliver Reed as his nemesis, and smokin-hot Kathleen Turner as Reed's wife who falls for Swayze. There's a karate fight in the middle of a bowling match, a whole long philosophical discussion about bowling and what it means to be a man, and an amazing final match. I think it was one of those early-eighties 3D movies (like Spacehunter) because there were an awful lot of head-on shots of bowling balls coming at the camera. Great stuff.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 26, 2014 05:18 PM (9JYhg)

69 Biscuits and gravy at McDonalds and Subway? The deuce you say. Never seen such a thing. I picked up a package of gravy mix for less than a dollar, really a just add water and heat up, and put them on Walmart biscuits. Delicious.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:18 PM (4+AaH)

70 damn that gay cake thread had two...three hundred more comments left in it easy

Posted by: soothie at February 26, 2014 05:18 PM (rTCJ6)

71 Holder said state attorneys general do not have to enforce laws they disagree with,

See the thing with discarding the rule of law is that when the government picks and chooses which laws it's free to ignore, sooner or later, the rest of us will, too. Though I kind of expect that's the plan since the Dem voters are criminals in spirit (Voting for theft makes you a thief no matter what niceties fools try to mask the situation with) anyway.

Posted by: Methos at February 26, 2014 05:18 PM (hO9ad)

72 How about we just split the difference

Posted by: phreshone at February 26, 2014 05:19 PM (Q6pxP)

73 58>> Hey, but Jamie Benn got the goal that sent them home crying and went on to get the gold medal. When he and Lindy ruff come back to Dallas they can gloat.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 26, 2014 05:19 PM (60Vyp)

74 Wasn't Subways' bread made with mattress padding or something?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 05:19 PM (Q8vlx)

75 Safe travels & a wonderful trip Maet.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 26, 2014 05:20 PM (HVff2)

76 Nazi Browning Hi-Power. Had one before the canoe wreck.

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 05:20 PM (PYd29)

77 Wasn't Subways' bread made with mattress padding or something? Posted by: Chavez the Hugo
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Styrofoam coolers

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:21 PM (4Mv1T)

78 Ah, the New York Times. If you read it there, it must be true. *** The NYT made its reputation during the Titanic disaster in 1912. At the time there were about a dozen daily newspapers in New York City, and the Times was just one of them. There was a young man who was into the newfangled technology called "wireless" named David Sarnoff. He was listening in to the traffic on the North Atlantic that night, heard some interesting stuff about a ship in distress, and notified a friend who worked for the Times. The next day, newspapers all along the East Coast ran wildly inaccurate stories about how the Titanic had had an accident, but all of the passengers were safe and the ship was being towed to Nova Scotia for repairs. Only the Times ran with a front-page story that it had sunk with great loss of life. The Times has been coasting on that reputation ever since.

Posted by: rickl at February 26, 2014 05:21 PM (sdi6R)

79 Attorney generals don't have to enforce or uphold laws they disagree with, but bakers have to bake for sins against their religious beliefs. Got it.

Posted by: soothie at February 26, 2014 05:21 PM (rTCJ6)

80 Whoa!!!

I just remembered that Vanessa Angel was in Spies Like Us. She played the hawt Russian ICBM soldier than Dan Ackroyd ends up with.

"Source programmable guidance!!!"

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:21 PM (doBIb)

81 Well to be fair it does have a sports angle.The SB is scheduled to be in Arizona next year.

Posted by: steevy at February 26, 2014 05:21 PM (zqvg6)

82 And sawmill gravy is easy to make, guys. It's the Biscuits that take talent.

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 05:21 PM (PYd29)

83 Wow! That's an early ONT.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 05:21 PM (DmNpO)

84 "Because legislatures and judges doing their thing would just slow down the system and plus we know better." Wonder how Holder would feel about a pro-life AG prosecuting abortion doctors (despite pro-abort laws) under the "equal protection" clause? I'd celebrate Holder's departure except I know that Obama would just nominate somebody more radical.

Posted by: Thrawn at February 26, 2014 05:21 PM (WlWt+)

85 Styrofoam coolers that's right. I forgot.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 05:22 PM (Q8vlx)

86 I am pretty sure that if I took a year off and did nothing but bowl I could be a top ten bowler.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:23 PM (rDidD)

87 Evening, y'all. Anybody got a match?

Posted by: madamemayhem (still on a hate binge) at February 26, 2014 05:23 PM (WPm3x)

88 "US AG Eric Holder: New Policy - You Don' Have to Enforce or Defend Laws You Don't Like"

So is it OK if I don't obey laws I don't like? Cuz there's a lotta them...

Posted by: tu3031 at February 26, 2014 05:23 PM (yagOO)

89 80 I just hope she didn't have to sleep with Chevy Chase to get the part. No one deserves that.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 05:23 PM (k8m83)

90 Was there ever a bowling movie with Alley Sheehy ?

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 05:23 PM (A6qKE)

91 A nice greazzy Waffle House breakfast would surely beat any offerings from mickey d's or some taco place.

Posted by: Jimmy Waffles at February 26, 2014 05:23 PM (IvKTt)

92 Watching the Wings at the Habs. Advert on the far boards for... Any Canuckistans going to see Paul Simon and Sting in Montreal Friday night? How much are tickets? Damn, I am getting old! Have a good night horde!

Posted by: Forty Baht Barack at February 26, 2014 05:23 PM (FPGrY)

93 it is the early bird special over night thread, comes with your choice flan, jello or pudding.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:24 PM (rDidD)

94 Holder says states don't have to enforce laws they (Holder) don't like Holder expects them however to enforce laws created by fiat rather than legislation, because RACISM or HOMOPHOBIA - Plus you must enforce a number of unwritten laws.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 26, 2014 05:24 PM (x1O5G)

95 Hey, but Jamie Benn got the goal that sent them home crying and went on to get the gold medal. When he and Lindy ruff come back to Dallas they can gloat. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 26, 2014 09:19 PM (60Vyp) John Tortorella, the Canucks' coach, said before the gold medal game that since Canucks' players Roberto Luongo and Dan Hamhuis were likely not going to play in the game he didn't give a s*** about Canada's performance, hoped Sweden won, and also hoped the Canucks' players on Team Sweden got lots of points in the game. Today he apologized to those he may have offended, since his earlier comments went over like a lead balloon.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 05:24 PM (MpP9p)

96 Do they roll any balls in Qatar?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 05:24 PM (xq1UY)

97 Hey everybody! There's a shit cloud coming. Run for your lives!

Posted by: Ishmael at February 26, 2014 05:25 PM (DtNNC)

98 The NY Times was right once 102 years ago? Time to let it go, I don't think it's been right since, except when exposing Bush/Cheney secrets.

Posted by: Carol at February 26, 2014 05:25 PM (z4WKX)

99 McD's Toxic Hell, and Subway serve processed food. Your body processes food you know what happens then.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 05:25 PM (Q8vlx)

100 Extremely grumpy momma bear...ICAWYM ...although i'm not in TX

Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 05:26 PM (LhAqq)

101 Do they roll any balls in Qatar? Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26 more of a juggling thing in qatar.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:26 PM (rDidD)

102 From what I've read of the Google Buses, there's more to the issue than just plain old class envy The Google Buses were using public bus stops free of charge, holding up city buses that fare paying passengers need to use. They're also leviathans that clog car traffic on San Francisco's narrower streets This is a Blue on Blue fight, but it's understandable that those who paid their rent still got evicted with nowhere else in the city to go to because of a shitty law that is sort of a renter's Kelo Long time businesses are also being pushed out by skyrocketing rents to make way for gourmet cupcake shops and overpriced fusion restaurants and noodle bars that well heeled lefty hipsters love. The trouble with that is those kinds of stores cater to fads that change constantly and quickly. Another dot-com type bust and nothing is left but boarded up storefronts.

Posted by: kbdabear at February 26, 2014 05:26 PM (aTXUx)

103 81 Well to be fair it does have a sports angle.The SB is scheduled to be in Arizona next year. Posted by: steevy at February 26, 2014 09:21 PM (zqvg6) --A lot of people still buy into the myth that Arizona wanted to ban MLK Day as a holiday.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:26 PM (X3GkB)

104 Evening, y'all. Anybody got a match? Posted by: madamemayhem (still on a hate binge)
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Our pres'nit and the south end of a northbound mule.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:26 PM (4Mv1T)

105 I'm going to count my blessings because I get wrapped up in the death of America. God loves me. My girlfriend, soon Wife, loves me. My kids love me and they turned out good. I'm in Texas. I'm overrun with critters. I got plenty of ammo. I can't drink all the Macallans they make but I've got them working nights. You fuckers are funny. Life is good.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 26, 2014 05:27 PM (HGIxv)

106 An 830 ONT? Damn. Evening Morons. Who we pissing off today?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 05:27 PM (GEICT)

107 The Second Time As Farce While there are many parallels between Ancient Rome (and it's eventual decline and fall), and modern day America, the analogy is not perfect. Though while history may not repeat, it does rhyme. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=4758

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 26, 2014 05:27 PM (XvHmy)

108 Only idiots say McD's is toxic. That's retarded. You don't like it, don't eat it. Don't make bullshit conspiracy claims.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2014 05:27 PM (ZPrif)

109 Evening Morons. Who we pissing off today? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February not "off", "on"

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:27 PM (rDidD)

110 Early ONT to stave off mobies and crazies from gay veto thread below.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2014 05:28 PM (ZPrif)

111 Biscuits and gravy at McDonalds and Subway? The deuce you say. Never seen such a thing. I picked up a package of gravy mix for less than a dollar, really a just add water and heat up, and put them on Walmart biscuits. Delicious. --- Best biscuits and gravy are home made. You get a big pot, put in 2 pounds of high quality sausage and fry that bitch. Drain all the fat, then put in a little hot water, and drain it again so you get pure white gravy in the end. Put in a gallon of whole milk, heat to "real hot" on low heat, and then add about about 1.5 cups of flour, maybe a little more, whisking it in well, and slow cook it for another half hour till the flour blooms. I use frozen biscuits, and that's another art form.

Posted by: UWP at February 26, 2014 05:28 PM (KAmBO)

112 Toxic Hell i.e. Taco Bell.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 05:29 PM (Q8vlx)

113 I feel pretty comfortable that Holder's AG decree is setting the stage for an attack on Abbott when he defends Texas' defense of marriage act.

Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2014 05:29 PM (hFL/3)

114 ESPN makes the veto the top story on their site. - 'Cause ESPN is all about baked goods.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 26, 2014 05:29 PM (E+uky)

115 jan brewer is a fucking cretin, she should have simply vetoed it if she was going to veto it, her explanation was nonsense.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:29 PM (rDidD)

116 Life, equal vitality, the vibration and exuberance of life pushed back into the smallest forms; the rest, poor in life. Everywhere paralysis, hardship, torpidity, or hostility, and chaos: both more and more obvious the higher one ascends in forms of organization. The whole no longer lives at all: it is composite, calculated, artificial, and artifact.

America, early 2014

Posted by: Freddy Neet-sche at February 26, 2014 05:29 PM (omBWL)

117 This is a Blue on Blue fight, but it's understandable that those who paid their rent still got evicted with nowhere else in the city to go to because of a shitty law that is sort of a renter's Kelo Long time businesses are also being pushed out by skyrocketing rents to make way for gourmet cupcake shops and overpriced fusion restaurants and noodle bars that well heeled lefty hipsters love. The trouble with that is those kinds of stores cater to fads that change constantly and quickly. Another dot-com type bust and nothing is left but boarded up storefronts.

No wonder the cops busted the shit outta that hipster from a few weeks ago. They must hate them with a vengeance.

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:29 PM (doBIb)

118 97 Hey everybody! There's a shit cloud coming. Run for your lives! Posted by: Ishmael at February 26, 2014 09:25 PM (DtNNC) --Still funny. http://youtu.be/Hm3bedD-XmQ

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:29 PM (X3GkB)

119 the rise of fast food happened at the same time America saw a huge increase in lifespan. fast food is fine if you don't gorge on it. If you don't like it, don't eat it. But it is a lie that it is particularly bad for you.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2014 05:30 PM (ZPrif)

120

The NHL is back!! NBCSN has a double header of NHL tonight. Boston/Buffalo (3rd period about too start. 3-3 at the moment. pretty entertaining game) and LA/Colorado.

Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 05:30 PM (vC/TC)

121 Mr. Dave, good on ya! This is my 14th wedding anniversary. Feeling pretty blessed myself, tonight, though the world burns.

Posted by: LadyS at February 26, 2014 05:30 PM (tMTsS)

122 ESPN was gay all day. But only because NFL gave them a hook.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2014 05:30 PM (ZPrif)

123 not "off", "on" Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 09:27 PM (rDidD) That'll work too.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 05:30 PM (GEICT)

124 So if a state AG doesn't agree with a gun control law, Holder is cool with it if they decline to prosecute? I know, but it's something to throw at lefty gun grabbers on Twitter and Facebook who think Holder is a hero of the people for doing that

Posted by: kbdabear at February 26, 2014 05:31 PM (aTXUx)

125 Is a hat that you wear while bowling called a bowler? Why isn't their final game called the Super Bowl?

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 05:31 PM (A6qKE)

126 116 What is that, Nietzsche? Shut the fuck up!

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 05:31 PM (k8m83)

127 @91. Scattered, smothered, covered, and chunked. Related: If I had a country bad, that is what I would name it.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:31 PM (4+AaH)

128 Happy anniversary, LadyS!

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 05:31 PM (MpP9p)

129 (WPm3x) WHAT THE FUCK? Who changed my hash tag or whatever the fuck that thing is? My tag has always been some damned thing that, when you sound it out, becomes Stu Arnie. Who stole my fucking Stu Arnie tag? I still don't know how this blog figured out my real name, but now some one has stolen it. WHO THE FUCK STOLE MY IDENTITY? Now I have this idiotic (WPm3x)...... what the fuck is that shit? I HATE THAT!!!

Posted by: madamemayhem (still on a hate binge) at February 26, 2014 05:32 PM (WPm3x)

130 I love McDonald's biscuits. I have never tried their gravy, because I am a heretic Southerner who doesn't care for gravy, cornbread, grits or sweet tea. Thank you, Maet!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:32 PM (Pfvig)

131 WHAT THE FUCK? Who changed my hash tag or whatever the fuck that thing is? My tag has always been some damned thing that, when you sound it out, becomes Stu Arnie. Who stole my fucking Stu Arnie tag? I still don't know how this blog figured out my real name, but now some one has stolen it. WHO THE FUCK STOLE MY IDENTITY? Now I have this idiotic (WPm3x)...... what the fuck is that shit? I HATE THAT!!! Posted by: madamemayhem (still on a hate binge) at February 26, 2014 09:32 PM (WPm3x) it happens, call your service provider

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:32 PM (rDidD)

132 Another great bowling movie: "Steel Balls" from 1985. Can't remember who directed it. Starred the guy from BJ and the Bear, and had Dom DeLuise. They were a couple of wacky bowlers on the US Olympic bowling team who get mixed up with spies. Had a whole bunch of Eighties teen starlets, and most of them spent most of their time on screen topless. Seriously, that movie must have set some kind of record for gratuitous boobs. Best scene is where the Russians have replaced BJ's bowling ball with a bomb set to go off when it hits the pin. Dom DeLuise gets it and can't hit a single one!

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 26, 2014 05:32 PM (9JYhg)

133 Evening morons. At one of my other jobs tonight, so there is a chance I may get to enjoy part of the ONT in real time instead of only after 5 am.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 05:32 PM (sQ0LB)

134 Miss Tammy! How goes it?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 05:32 PM (GEICT)

135 *Looks around* *Whispers* I've never had biscuits and gravy in my life.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 05:33 PM (MpP9p)

136 128. Thank you, Vendette! I look forward to seeing you again at the June NoVaMoMee. Maybe this time my cool hubs can attend!

Posted by: LadyS at February 26, 2014 05:33 PM (tMTsS)

137 well, well, look who is here, MissTammy!

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:33 PM (rDidD)

138 I've never had biscuits and gravy in my life.

Does the thought of it repulse you or make you hungry?

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:33 PM (doBIb)

139 @84 Wonder how Holder would feel about a pro-life AG prosecuting abortion doctors (despite pro-abort laws) under the "equal protection" clause? ------------------ That wouldn't necessarily fit under Holder's statement, since it would involve a prosecution. A better fit would be if a State AG declined to prosecute a group that blocked the entrance to an abortion clinic.

Posted by: junior at February 26, 2014 05:33 PM (fsOaN)

140 #49 What, you don't want us to strike you?

Posted by: The guttersnipe at February 26, 2014 05:33 PM (/cUUk)

141 "Processed" food. Term gets tossed around a lot. Mainly means "sold by somebody I don't like."

Sausage is processed food; the process is called "charcuterie." Has nothing to do with adding nitrates, or what have you. Its own fat is cooked back into it as a preservative.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 05:33 PM (xq1UY)

142 I like The Shawshank Redemption more. Posted by: Aaron Hernandez Good flick. At the end where he goes to Mexico he ends up in Zihuateneho. Great place to visit, or the nearby tourist town Ixtapa. Much better than the big tourist towns like Cancun or Acapulco.

Posted by: The Farmer at February 26, 2014 05:34 PM (eBupg)

143 The recently elected VA AG has changed his mind on the VA Gay Marriage ban. He has said he is going to ignore the law just like Holder and Teh JEF pick and choose what laws they will follow. We have reached the point already where we are no longer a country with the rule of law.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 26, 2014 05:34 PM (jucos)

144 WPm3x - whip 'im thrice?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 26, 2014 05:34 PM (30eLQ)

145 Happy Anniversary LadyS!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:34 PM (Pfvig)

146 My Walmart had a can of 1200 rds of 9mm for $420. The sporting goods guys said he sold the other two cans they had today already. No 9 in boxes. When I looked in the case, guy said, .22? I said, I know better than that. He laughed.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:34 PM (4+AaH)

147 **Tips glass to LadyS**

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 26, 2014 05:34 PM (HGIxv)

148 Shooter part covered, do need the mask.

Posted by: Own rifle - born with gun at February 26, 2014 05:35 PM (6qMMx)

149 McD does have some outstanding biscuits. I used to think that Bojangles had that market cornered but they aren't what they once were.

For fastfood restaurants, Hardee's started the whole biscuit craze in the 70s.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:35 PM (4Mv1T)

150 Sooper early, and full of great content. Thank, Maet. be safe.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 05:35 PM (Ntnpb)

151 107 The Second Time As Farce While there are many parallels between Ancient Rome (and it's eventual decline and fall), and modern day America, the analogy is not perfect. Though while history may not repeat, it does rhyme. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=4758 Posted by: The Political Hat at February 26, 2014 09:27 PM (XvHmy) --TPH, were you inspired by the earlier comments here, or was it just an uncanny coincidence that you blogged that?

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:35 PM (X3GkB)

152 Evening TR and BC!

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:35 PM (doBIb)

153 gaygaygaygaygaygaygaygaygaygay........

Posted by: ESPN at February 26, 2014 05:35 PM (vC/TC)

154 There's also an old German Expressionist silent movie. The English translation is simply "Bowling" but I bet the original German is a real jawbreaker. No idea who made it or starred. Heavy-duty bowling-as-metaphor-for-life stuff. Great lighting -- every bowling lane in the movie is incredibly dark, lit from overhead by a line of bright spotlights, so the balls go from dark to light to dark to light to dark to light until they reach the end. Metaphor alert!

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 26, 2014 05:35 PM (9JYhg)

155 Hi Carol, reposting this from the other thread so you'll see it. I am praying for your brother. Don't lose hope.

Posted by: votermom at February 26, 2014 05:36 PM (jC32E)

156 Hey, Y5, Hey BC! Crank, do we have a baby yet?? I forget when you're due...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:36 PM (Pfvig)

157 84 "Because legislatures and judges doing their thing would just slow down the system and plus we know better." Wonder how Holder would feel about a pro-life AG prosecuting abortion doctors (despite pro-abort laws) under the "equal protection" clause? I'd celebrate Holder's departure except I know that Obama would just nominate somebody more radical. Posted by: Thrawn at February 26, 2014 09:21 PM (WlWt+) Remember the vapors the Dems got in 2001 when John Ashcroft was nominated for AG? He was accused of wanting to do what the Dems are actually doing.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 26, 2014 05:36 PM (HxSXm)

158 I eat at McD's not often but, I do. At least it is decent quality and consistent store to store. Not a hater at all.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 05:36 PM (Q8vlx)

159 103 --A lot of people still buy into the myth that Arizona wanted to ban MLK Day as a holiday. Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 09:26 PM (X3GkB) ----------------- Yeah, we're cooked. They have the microphone and they frame the "argument" to whip up the mob. Can't win.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 05:36 PM (dfYL9)

160 #125 To confuse matters further, a bowler is also called a derby- and yet it is not worn when attending horse races.

Posted by: The mad hatter at February 26, 2014 05:36 PM (/cUUk)

161 @102 This is a Blue on Blue fight, but it's understandable that those who paid their rent still got evicted with nowhere else in the city to go to because of a shitty law that is sort of a renter's Kelo Long time businesses are also being pushed out by skyrocketing rents to make way for gourmet cupcake shops and overpriced fusion restaurants and noodle bars that well heeled lefty hipsters love. The trouble with that is those kinds of stores cater to fads that change constantly and quickly. Another dot-com type bust and nothing is left but boarded up storefronts. ------------------------ I dunno... I don't think the bit about stores being pushed out can be that simple and straightforward. Remember a couple of years ago when the story about woman who wanted to open an ice cream shop was floating around. iirc, eight months, and she *still* hadn't managed to get all of the necessary permits.

Posted by: junior at February 26, 2014 05:36 PM (fsOaN)

162 Does the thought of it repulse you or make you hungry? Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 09:33 PM (doBIb) Biscuits and gravy aren't really a thing in western Canuckistan, and I've never had much of a desire to give them a try. To make things worse, as a kid iced tea was the stuff you made from powder in a can.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 05:37 PM (MpP9p)

163 gratuitous boobs These words do not belong together.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:37 PM (4+AaH)

164 Tammy!

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 05:37 PM (T1005)

165 I don't know much but I do know Trimegistus really knows his obscure 80's bowling movies.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 26, 2014 05:38 PM (IV4od)

166 Dammit all this biscuit and gravy talk, I am going to have to go the Walmart and get some.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:39 PM (4+AaH)

167 MAET, thanks for posting up while you're on the road. Be safe.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:39 PM (4Mv1T)

168 132 Another great bowling movie: "Steel Balls" from 1985. Can't remember who directed it. Starred the guy from BJ and the Bear, and had Dom DeLuise. They were a couple of wacky bowlers on the US Olympic bowling team who get mixed up with spies. Had a whole bunch of Eighties teen starlets, and most of them spent most of their time on screen topless. Seriously, that movie must have set some kind of record for gratuitous boobs. Best scene is where the Russians have replaced BJ's bowling ball with a bomb set to go off when it hits the pin. Dom DeLuise gets it and can't hit a single one! Posted by: Trimegistus at February 26, 2014 09:32 PM ------------------------------------------------------- I've never heard of that. Must watch. Not for the hooters, of course.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 05:39 PM (DtNNC)

169 cthulu! I love early ONTs! Carol, are you around?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:39 PM (Pfvig)

170 Wassup EC. To make things worse, as a kid iced tea was the stuff you made from powder in a can. Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 09:37 PM (MpP9p) How the fuckÂ…?????

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 05:39 PM (GEICT)

171 Evening all. Miss Tammy!

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 26, 2014 05:40 PM (eQJwb)

172 125 Is a hat that you wear while bowling called a bowler? Why isn't their final game called the Super Bowl? Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 09:31 PM (A6qKE) --I'm assuming it's from cricket, although I've never seen cricket bowlers wear those either.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:40 PM (X3GkB)

173
Biscuits and gravy aren't really a thing in western Canuckistan, and I've never had much of a desire to give them a try.

To make things worse, as a kid iced tea was the stuff you made from powder in a can.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 09:37 PM (MpP9p)

I had never had biscuits and gravy, grits, fried okra, nor Carolina style BBQ growing up in Canada but I thank god I found them here!

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:40 PM (doBIb)

174 163 gratuitous boobs These words do not belong together. Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 09:37 PM (4+AaH) neither do these! iced tea was the stuff you made from powder in a can. Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 09:37 PM (MpP9p)

Posted by: madamemayhem (still on a hate binge) at February 26, 2014 05:40 PM (WPm3x)

175 gratuitous boobs These words do not belong together. Unless it involves Lena Dunham.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 05:40 PM (k8m83)

176 Then there are pool movies-- The Hustler was the best with the late great Jackie Gleason as Minnesota Fats. The Color of Money was a so-so sequel.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at February 26, 2014 05:40 PM (/cUUk)

177 How the fuckÂ…?????

Tang? Kool Aid?

Yup.

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:40 PM (doBIb)

178 Yes Lipton ice tea mix. We used to always have a jar of that when I was growing up. And tang. And then you could mix them and make a faux Russian tea.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 26, 2014 05:41 PM (RZ8pf)

179 I had a friend in HS whose momma made iced tea with sugar AND sweet and low, because after the water was saturated with sugar, it would take some saccharine. That was some sweet tea.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:41 PM (4+AaH)

180 I had never had biscuits and gravy, grits, fried okra, nor Carolina style BBQ growing up in Canada but I thank god I found them here!
Posted by: EC
----------------------------

That's my boy.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:41 PM (4Mv1T)

181 The best part of Kingpin? The comb overs during the final tournament. And Bill Murray's rose ball. And the seven -ten split pickup by Woody Harrelson.

Posted by: LFW - Honorary Pointy Eared Vulcan at February 26, 2014 05:41 PM (vVSOO)

182 Adding to 111, liberal amounts of pepper in the pot.

Posted by: UWP at February 26, 2014 05:41 PM (KAmBO)

183 Nestea is what he means by powder in a can. It was what we drank, too. Lipton also had an instant with lemon and sugar in it, but that was for rich folks, with, ya know, electric and all.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:41 PM (Pfvig)

184 OH, and how can I forget: that bowling movie from 2004, "Strikes." Serious drama stuff -- drunken old bowler played by Harvey Keitel, still thinks someday he's going to win the tournament and somehow fix his life. There's also a labor strike going on (steel mill, I think) and his son is struggling to get by with a bunch of kids and a pregnant wife. Finally there's a big riot, Keitel dies, and his son goes in to the big bowling tournament in his stead.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 26, 2014 05:41 PM (9JYhg)

185 The Second Time As Farce While there are many parallels between Ancient Rome (and it's eventual decline and fall), and modern day America, the analogy is not perfect. Though while history may not repeat, it does rhyme. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=4758 Posted by: The Political Hat at February 26, 2014 09:27 PM (XvHmy) --TPH, were you inspired by the earlier comments here, or was it just an uncanny coincidence that you blogged that? Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 09:35 PM (X3GkB) Wrote that a week ago. I try to space out my posts evenly, especially since I only have time to write usually on the weekend or Friday evening, if then. So yes, uncanny coincidence. Which comments are you referring to?

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (XvHmy)

186 Hmm...is Putin setting up for a Georgian war redux, Ukraine edition? Preparing for war: Putin puts 150,000 troops on standby as Muslim supporters of Ukraine's new government clash with pro-Russian group in Crimea http://tinyurl.com/l8yr2e3

Posted by: Thrawn at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (WlWt+)

187 DC! How are Cougar and Princess?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (Pfvig)

188 Thanks, Tammy and Mr. Dave. I'm about to go celebrate with husband-who-lurks. But, Carol, I too am still praying for your brother Paul.

Posted by: LadyS at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (tMTsS)

189 I've never had biscuits and gravy in my life.

You have been deprived and cheated. I'm sorry to hear that.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (bxpf3)

190 kingpin sucked, it was an amalgam of nearly funny cliips.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (rDidD)

191 Yes Lipton ice tea mix. We used to always have a jar of that when I was growing up. And tang. And then you could mix them and make a faux Russian tea. Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 26, 2014 09:41 PM (RZ8pf) Glad to know I'm not alone. Nestea has the mix too.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (MpP9p)

192 162 Does the thought of it repulse you or make you hungry? Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 09:33 PM (doBIb) Biscuits and gravy aren't really a thing in western Canuckistan, and I've never had much of a desire to give them a try. To make things worse, as a kid iced tea was the stuff you made from powder in a can. Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 09:37 PM (MpP9p) --Cracker Barrel is unavoidable if you drive on a U.S. Interstate for a decent length of time. It has been years since I ate at one, but when I did it included biscuits and gravy and it was good.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (X3GkB)

193 Unless it involves Lena Dunham. Well, at least I am not hungry for biscuits and gravy anymore.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (4+AaH)

194 Voter mom, Thank you. I just briefly read here taking clothes out of washing machine & came to put on another sweatshirt jacket to put on to bring into cold, non-insulated hall with dryer. I have to put every last face cloth in or I would have done it earlier. But it has been in teens, or lower with windchill all day in Boston area. Thanks again for prayer,

Posted by: Carol at February 26, 2014 05:42 PM (z4WKX)

195 I've never had tea from a can, never even heard of it. Tea in my parents' house was made the old fashioned way. A Mr. Tea and about 3 pounds of sugar.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 05:43 PM (GEICT)

196 What is that, Nietzsche? Shut the fuck up!.... marty hart wouldh'e said this to rust because it sounds like rust-speak.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 05:43 PM (AwcHw)

197

"Though while history may not repeat, it does rhyme. "

It also speeds up. The decline of Roman took centuries. America in 2014 is vastly different from the America of 1954. Lucky us - we get to watch the country fall apart in fast forward.

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at February 26, 2014 05:43 PM (R3gO3)

198 You have been deprived and cheated. I'm sorry to hear that. Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 26, 2014 09:42 PM (bxpf3) But my hometown hockey team has 5 Stanley Cups. I'll deal

(I'm sure I'll sample biscuits and gravy one of these days.)

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 05:43 PM (MpP9p)

199 Does the thought of it repulse you or make you hungry? Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 09:33 PM (doBIb) it is conflicting, it is like kate upton, each individual part is great, however, someone assembled 'em wrong.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:44 PM (rDidD)

200 Putin II: This time it's personal.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 26, 2014 05:44 PM (3q7iH)

201 Judge: Drop the vernacular ! Curly looking at his hat in his hand: It's a Dioby.

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 05:44 PM (A6qKE)

202 I like a little tea in my sugar. 'specially with...

wait for it....

EASTERN NC STYLE BARBECUE.

That's right.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:44 PM (4Mv1T)

203 What is that, Nietzsche? Shut the fuck up!.... marty hart wouldh'e said this to rust because it sounds like rust-speak. That's what I said to Reggie Ledoux, just before Marty shot him.

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 05:45 PM (k8m83)

204 Charles C. W. Cooke ✔ @charlescwcooke When you really think about it, the First Amendment is really a pro-KKK measure.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2014 05:45 PM (ZPrif)

205 it is conflicting, it is like kate upton, each individual part is great, however, someone assembled 'em wrong.

Huh?

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:45 PM (doBIb)

206 The Carolina BBQ is sweet isn't it?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 26, 2014 05:45 PM (jucos)

207 Carol, he is in my prayers as well. Is he being fed via nasal tube? I know that my grandfather kept getting pneumonia after his strokes because he was aspirating some of his tube feeds. A g-tube might help. Also, it's really important that he is upright as much as possible. This was a huge fight with the VA with my grandpa because they were content to let him lay flat on his back and die, but being upright really helps reduce the risk of aspirating his own secretions which can also cause pneumonia.

Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2014 05:46 PM (hFL/3)

208 An Attorney General that doesn't enforce the laws that he disagrees with.

Hey Miss Lindsey, maybe you should have asked him about that in the Judiciary hearings.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 05:46 PM (V70Uh)

209 Oh yeah it was nestea. Or did we have Lipton? Our tea didn't have lemon and sugar in the mix.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 26, 2014 05:46 PM (RZ8pf)

210 So yes, uncanny coincidence. Which comments are you referring to? Posted by: The Political Hat at February 26, 2014 09:42 PM (XvHmy) --It was in Ace's long post about irony and Peggy Noonan's blog post. There was some discussion about Ancient Rome in there with Donna V and others.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:47 PM (X3GkB)

211 The Carolina BBQ is sweet isn't it? Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner
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Red sauce to the central and west. Yellow mustard sauce to the south in SC.

And the holy grail of ALL barbecue sauces, vinegar and peppers in eastern NC.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:47 PM (4Mv1T)

212 The Carolina BBQ is sweet isn't it?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 26, 2014 09:45 PM (jucos)

No. Vinegar based sauce.

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 05:47 PM (doBIb)

213 I'm late. I am not going to read the first 200 posts.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 05:47 PM (V70Uh)

214 "(I'm sure I'll sample biscuits and gravy one of these days.)" It's pretty easy to make yourself. I just make some drop biscuits usually and then make the sausage gravy. Sometimes I roll out some real buttermilk biscuits, but I think drop biscuits are just as good and are so much quicker.

Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2014 05:47 PM (hFL/3)

215 EASTERN NC STYLE BARBECUE. I would go eewww but I have no standing, I am from SC.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:47 PM (4+AaH)

216 🎶🎶 Granny's in the cellar Lordy can't cha smell 'er Making greasy biscuits by the stove It really doesn't matter The way she makes the batter Cuz the snot's justa runnin' down 'er nose (Chorus) Down 'er nose Down 'er nose Cuz the snot's justa runnin' down 'er nose Amazingly, as mad as she would get when we sang this, she would still feed us her nummy b&g. Never had any to compare. She didn't skimp on the Jimmy Dean.

Posted by: Justamom at February 26, 2014 05:48 PM (Sptt8)

217 it is conflicting, it is like kate upton, each individual part is great, however, someone assembled 'em wrong. Girlfriend is adorable, but she needs some hips.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:48 PM (Pfvig)

218 >>>How are Cougar and Princess? Doing great, thanks. Thor still working his butt off?

Posted by: DC in Towson at February 26, 2014 05:48 PM (eQJwb)

219 208 An Attorney General that doesn't enforce the laws that he disagrees with. Just wait 'til he starts enforcing laws he agrees with that don't exist.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 05:48 PM (k8m83)

220 And no. I am not going to see and old Woody Harrelson film.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 05:48 PM (V70Uh)

221 Hey, kids! Just popping in briefly. Am gobsmacked to find I've been communing with folks who've never had biscuits and gravy. Dang, it's one of the finest foodstuffs known to man (done correctly, of course, and you will find some of the best at the truck stops on the interstates in middle America).

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 05:48 PM (8lmkt)

222 Huh?

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 09:45 PM (doBIb)

That was incomprehensible, and disturbing, and probably racist.

It's a sign of the end-times.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 05:48 PM (QFxY5)

223 BBQ sauce? Pansies.

Posted by: Central Texas at February 26, 2014 05:48 PM (hFL/3)

224 Girlfriend is adorable, but she needs some hips. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:48 PM (Pfvig) And calves.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 05:49 PM (hjKMO)

225 TAMMY!!!!!!

How you doin', my dear?

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 05:49 PM (8lmkt)

226 Oh yeah it was nestea. Or did we have Lipton? Our tea didn't have lemon and sugar in the mix. Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 26, 2014 09:46 PM (RZ8pf) I'm pretty sure we had Nestea when I was a kid, but it had a metric ton of sugar in it. Now you can get all sorts of flavors besides lemon, along with the metric ton of sugar and artificial sweetener options.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 05:49 PM (MpP9p)

227 When I use a law, it means what I choose it to mean. Neither more nor less

Posted by: Humpty Holder at February 26, 2014 05:49 PM (aTXUx)

228 139 Junior, Whaddya mean? //Black Panthers from Philly Donkey better pray nobody from the fuck you caucus in the GOP gets power. Year one is blackmailing judges, year two is Lernering donors with the IRS year 3 is prison for the moonbat all-stars...sauce for the goose sauce for the gander right Holder?

Posted by: sven10077 at February 26, 2014 05:49 PM (TE35l)

229 - " I've never had biscuits and gravy in my life." ----------------------------------------------- Believe it or not, there was a time that I'd never had sex... with biscuits and gravy.

Posted by: not the Ewok you're thinking of at February 26, 2014 05:49 PM (DtNNC)

230 I always make a point to go to Bob Evans when I get back to the States and there's one nearby. A side of biscuits and gravy goes with everything.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 05:49 PM (hjKMO)

231 BBQ is not just food, it is tribal.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:50 PM (4+AaH)

232 I don't know what you guys think you see in Rome. They never were worth a shit. And they were not the largest empire in history, or even their own time.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 05:50 PM (xq1UY)

233 162 To make things worse, as a kid iced tea was the stuff you made from powder in a can. Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 09:37 PM (MpP9p) Yep, I remember that. Nowadays I make real ice tea from scratch by boiling water on the stove, steeping the tea, and then chilling it down in the refrigerator.

Posted by: rickl at February 26, 2014 05:50 PM (sdi6R)

234 Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 09:48 PM (8lmkt)

By the way young lady, making biscuits is surprisingly easy, and quite a pleasure.

Eating them is more fun however.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 05:50 PM (QFxY5)

235 I would go eewww but I have no standing, I am from SC. Posted by: blaster
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I'm not crazy about SC barbecue, but my mom's side of the family has been there three centuries, so I have to watch what I say and eat what's put in front of me.

Go SC barbecue! I ate some great stuff out on Edisto Island a few years ago. I don't know what they did to it but it was outstanding.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 05:50 PM (4Mv1T)

236 I had biscuits and gravy once at a Bob Evans. meh.

There's gravy and then there is gravy.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 05:50 PM (V70Uh)

237 PEACHES! So glad you're not drowned!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:51 PM (Pfvig)

238 Okay, I'll say it. If I were offered a choice, right now, between sex or biscuits and gravy, I would take the biscuits and gravy. Hands down.

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 05:51 PM (8lmkt)

239 Kate Upton is the perfect woman. Even her feet are small so she can stand close to the kitchen counter to make me my sandwiches.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at February 26, 2014 05:51 PM (jucos)

240 That Google busing shit reminds me of the sorry state the American liberal ideology is in nowadays. On one hand, you've got some class warmonger personality agitating Google to set up shop in "blighted urban areas." On the other hand, my SF-resident liberal aunt waxes eloquent on how Twitter HQ is doing nothing for its "blighted urban area." Rule of thumb: they all suck.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at February 26, 2014 05:51 PM (OzZJn)

241 Meanwhile, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the man most likely to become the new prime minister has this to say (via the BBC): Â“We are to undertake extremely unpopular steps as the previous government and previous president were so corrupted that the country is in a desperate financial plightÂ…We are on the brink of a disaster and this is the government of political suiciders! So welcome to hell.Â”

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2014 05:51 PM (ZPrif)

242 All the things. From King Pin to Hitler. I am bewildered.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2014 05:51 PM (fsLdt)

243 it is conflicting, it is like kate upton, each individual part is great, however, someone assembled 'em wrong. Girlfriend is adorable, but she needs some hips. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February see, I knew I missed you, I thought it was her waist that was too high.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:51 PM (rDidD)

244 I was going to join a bowling league this winter but I just couldn't get the ball rolling.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 05:51 PM (Ntnpb)

245 Bob Evans went through a change of menu or something. Everything non-breakfast now is horrible. Used to be decent grub

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:51 PM (4+AaH)

246 When I was a kid my grammie always made sun-tea outside. Best tea in the world. Apparently that's now frowned upon because it encourages bacteria growth or something. Now I just make it in my ice tea maker. It's not the same. Not even close.

Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2014 05:52 PM (hFL/3)

247 Attorney generals don't have to enforce or uphold laws they disagree with, but bakers have to bake for sins against their religious beliefs. Got it. Posted by: soothie at February 26, 2014 09:21 PM (rTCJ6) I am SO stealing this.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:52 PM (Pfvig)

248 I am new to SC. I have ancestors that were here three centuries ago. Mustard-based BBQ sauce? I prefer KC or Texas.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 05:52 PM (V70Uh)

249 210 Logprof, I go on tears about it as well. We're worse than Rome...their version of Sulla is their imaginary friend not a real villain.

Posted by: sven10077 at February 26, 2014 05:52 PM (TE35l)

250 Kate Upton would be perfect if she had a penis and no boobs.

Posted by: ESPN - the LOGO sports network at February 26, 2014 05:52 PM (vC/TC)

251 Peaches!

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:52 PM (rDidD)

252 244 I was going to join a bowling league this winter but I just couldn't get the ball rolling. Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 09:51 PM (Ntnpb) That was awful. Be ashamed of yourself.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 05:52 PM (GEICT)

253 Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2014 09:47 PM (hFL/3)

I have always rolled them out, because they split perfectly. But the last few, made from the rerolled dough just never turn out as well.

So drop biscuits will be in my future. And I have buttermilk, so that future may be Friday morning.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 05:52 PM (QFxY5)

254 So glad you're not drowned!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:51 PM (Pfvig)

ah, jeez, they've been all heads exploding and ***STORM WATCH*** for a week now and, well, nary a drop. i'd just about kill for a good gullywasher.

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 05:53 PM (8lmkt)

255 Kate is unhipped. This is true.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2014 05:53 PM (fsLdt)

256 Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2014 09:52 PM (hFL/3) Was just gonna say sun tea is the BEST EVAH. Boiling water scorches the tea. These asshats will tell you everything is bad for you. Except abortion, of course.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:53 PM (Pfvig)

257 I would go eewww but I have no standing, I am from SC. Posted by: blaster
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I hereby transfer to you my W. North Carolina proxy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 05:53 PM (aDwsi)

258 so, if attorneys general get to decide which laws to enforce, maybe we should decide which ones to follow?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 05:53 PM (rDidD)

259 CIties want businesses to relocate from the (nice, safe, clean) suburbs back to existing urban areas, "Ideally blighted ones?" huh? what color is the sky on this Dutta person's planet?

Posted by: vivi at February 26, 2014 05:54 PM (+/8mE)

260 Okay, I'll say it. If I were offered a choice, right now, between sex or biscuits and gravy, I would take the biscuits and gravy. Hands down. I am thinking we could make a trade....

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:54 PM (4+AaH)

261

Not a big biscuit and gravy fan (I LOVE Popeye's biscuits, but I like them just plain, with the spicy fried chicken, which is much better than KFC, IMO. Unfortunately, everytime I go to Popeye's I feel like I'm taking my life in my hands.)

That's also the problem with buying grits (which I do like), and going to a joint called Speed Queen, which has the best Southern barbeque I've ever had this far north of the Mason-Dixon Line and really massive portions. A yout was shot not far from Speed Queen not long ago.

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at February 26, 2014 05:54 PM (R3gO3)

262 I thought it was her waist that was too high.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 09:51 PM (rDidD)

So that's why you threw her out of bed?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 05:54 PM (QFxY5)

263 Am gobsmacked to find I've been communing with folks who've never had biscuits and gravy. Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 09:48 PM (8lmkt) I didn't have grits until I was in college. And the first sampling was the boxed kind.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 05:54 PM (MpP9p)

264 233 Nowadays I make real ice tea from scratch by boiling water on the stove, steeping the tea, and then chilling it down in the refrigerator. Posted by: rickl at February 26, 2014 09:50 PM (sdi6R) And when you get ready to drink it, pour the tea over ice and add a splash of grape juice. No lemon or sugar. That is as good as ice tea gets. It's refreshing as all hell. The grape juice adds plenty of flavor and sweetness. You only need a tiny bit, and it works with either black tea or green tea.

Posted by: rickl at February 26, 2014 05:55 PM (sdi6R)

265 The sport of bowling, in it's early days was almost destroyed by the Bowl Weevil. many songs were written to that near tragedy.

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 05:55 PM (A6qKE)

266 232 I don't know what you guys think you see in Rome. They never were worth a shit. And they were not the largest empire in history, or even their own time. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 09:50 PM (xq1UY) --Well, hundreds of millions of people speak a mutation of their language, not to mention about half our vocabulary descended from it. Oh, and there still is a Roman Empire; it's just a non-state institution (albeit headquartered in a statelet) with about 2 billion members.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:55 PM (X3GkB)

267 Vinegar and peppers? Damn that really sounds good. Must try.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 05:55 PM (Q8vlx)

268 Rust Cohle (203) ty!...i only have episodes 1-2

Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 05:55 PM (AwcHw)

269 Sausage is processed food; the process is called "charcuterie." Posted by: Stringer Davis You watch Anthony Bourdain as well, I see.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 05:55 PM (xrX4n)

270 Was just gonna say sun tea is the BEST EVAH. Boiling water scorches the tea.

So true! And, actually, you don't even really need sun. Just fill a jug with water, throw in some teabags and wait a spell. You could probably drink some beers while you're waiting.

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 05:55 PM (8lmkt)

271 240 Yoshi, Turning Occutard Wall Street against the lib 1% won't be hard. Given the GOP 1% trying to pass Amigo Grande to thank us for stopping Ogabe I am happy to try to destroy both. Not caring any more than your opponents about long-term national health is invigorating. La Raza 2016-why not?Â™

Posted by: sven10077 at February 26, 2014 05:56 PM (TE35l)

272 I had biscuits and gravy once at a Bob Evans. meh. There's gravy and then there is gravy. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 09:50 PM (V70Uh) There's a saying about starving men, mediocre food, and how it tastes gourmet. For the life of me, I can't remember how it goes. Such is the my plight with biscuits and gravy.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 05:56 PM (hjKMO)

273 Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 09:53 PM (8lmkt) I think it was around 97 or 98 when they first started going apeshit over El Nino and we had STORMWATCH constantly. And then it didn't rain a drop until May. I think it rained every god damned day in May that year.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:56 PM (Pfvig)

274 211 The Carolina BBQ is sweet isn't it?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner
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Red sauce to the central and west. Yellow mustard sauce to the south in SC.

And the holy grail of ALL barbecue sauces, vinegar and peppers in eastern NC.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 09:47 PM (4Mv1T) Hide posts from (4Mv1T)

So, Lexington BBQ is, despite central location, eastern-style?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 05:56 PM (T1005)

275 Kate Upton has hips. She has no waist.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 05:57 PM (V70Uh)

276 There's also an old German Expressionist silent movie. The English translation is simply "Bowling" but I bet the original German is a real jawbreaker. *** That would be "Der Grosse Rollengeballnichtgutter- underlinkenpingeschtreicknit- shplittgemachenresetten- buttongemutlichkeitreturnen ob der Drei Hunnert". One of the best movies evah!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 26, 2014 05:57 PM (g4TxM)

277 The shortest bowling tossed was thrown by Manute Bowl, twelve feet. Yes, he guttered, but had good form.

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 05:57 PM (A6qKE)

278 Where was that Taco Bell run? They've had breakfast items on their menu in SoCal for at least a decade.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 26, 2014 05:58 PM (bPxS6)

279

I can be counted in the group that never had biscuit and gravy before either. I've lived in the South for half my life now. Well, "South". The last 16 years in Northern Virginia and before that 4 years in Tampa. Technically I was in the South.

Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 05:58 PM (vC/TC)

280 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:56 PM (Pfvig)

You know how epic stoopid they are here with their storm watch crap. I'm all, it's weather, okay? Find something else to talk about until it actually happens and, even then, we're not talking hurricanes or blizzards, it's a little rain, stfu.

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 05:58 PM (8lmkt)

281 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 26, 2014 09:57 PM (g4TxM)

In the previous thread?

I was fucking with you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 05:58 PM (QFxY5)

282 That was awful. Be ashamed of yourself. Posted by:Â BCochran1981 - Credible HulkÂ at February 26, 2014 09:52 _________ Oh, I am. Not just because of that stupid pun, either. I have shame to spare.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 05:58 PM (Ntnpb)

283 261 Not a big biscuit and gravy fan (I LOVE Popeye's biscuits, but I like them just plain, with the spicy fried chicken, which is much better than KFC, IMO. Unfortunately, everytime I go to Popeye's I feel like I'm taking my life in my hands.) That's also the problem with buying grits (which I do like), and going to a joint called Speed Queen, which has the best Southern barbeque I've ever had this far north of the Mason-Dixon Line and really massive portions. A yout was shot not far from Speed Queen not long ago. Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at February 26, 2014 09:54 PM (R3gO3) --I love the chicken biscuits at Chick Fil-A. I don't think any CFA sells gravy, though.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 05:58 PM (X3GkB)

284 My favorite iced tea is one called Paradise Tropical Tea. The original one. It's so danged good; I think it has mango in it. I drink gallons of it every week, all year long.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 05:59 PM (Pfvig)

285 I hereby transfer to you my W. North Carolina proxy. Yeah that mustard stuff I can abide but it is not my favorite, and some reject it as not of the body. But really it is more of a low country thing. I like the tomato based sauces of the western parts of Sc and NC, GA, and Eastern Tennessee. I am in Northern Virginia now and for some reason most people here think Memphis means BBQ. Like Camelot, Northern Virginia is a silly place.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 05:59 PM (4+AaH)

286 258 so, if attorneys general get to decide which laws to enforce, maybe we should decide which ones to follow? Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 09:53 PM _________________________________ Too late, been doing it for years.

Posted by: Just Me, and my Fuck-You-Government attitude at February 26, 2014 05:59 PM (DtNNC)

287 Bob received the following text from his neighbor:

I am so sorry, Bob. I've been riddled with guilt and I have to confess. I have been tapping your wife, day and night, whenever you're not around. In fact, more than you. I'm not getting any at home, but that's no excuse. I can no longer live with the guilt and I hope you will accept my sincerest apology with my promise that it won't happen again.

Anguished and betrayed, Bob went into his bedroom, grabbed his gun, and without a word, shot his wife and killed her.

A few moments later, a second text came in:
Damn autocorrect. I meant "wifi", not "wife".

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 05:59 PM (8lmkt)

288 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 26, 2014 09:57 PM (g4TxM)

Sarcasm is in my top ten favorite things on earth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 05:59 PM (QFxY5)

289 ah, jeez, they've been all heads exploding and ***STORM WATCH*** for a week now and, well, nary a drop. i'd just about kill for a good gullywasher. Posted by: Peaches Oh it's coming but not for a few hours. Don't expect much before 10pm. Ignore the TV blow-dried numpties. Lots of online weather bugs out there. I usually check forums.accuweather.com -> current weather -> 'West Coast' or sometimes 'Pacific Storm'

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 05:59 PM (xrX4n)

290 what a burger has these chicken biscuits with honey butter in the morning sounds disgusting but its heaven

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 05:59 PM (zOTsN)

291 I don't know what you guys think you see in Rome. They never were worth a shit. And they were not the largest empire in history, or even their own time. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 09:50 PM (xq1UY) We have Western Civilization because of them.

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 26, 2014 06:00 PM (XvHmy)

292 Another long day at work. How is everyone tonight?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 06:00 PM (lr3d7)

293

ah, jeez, they've been all heads exploding and ***STORM WATCH*** for a week now and, well, nary a drop. i'd just about kill for a good gullywasher. Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 09:53 PM (8lmkt)

They need to invite Tony Abbott, the new conservative PM of Australia to California. Tim Blair said Abbott is the anti-Gore. The weather gets shitty and cold whenever Gore comes to town to talk about global warming. Abbott visited some place in Australia where it hadn't rained in about a year and it poured there.

But then, the rulers of California wouldn't want to invite a conservative Aussie who doesn't believe in global warming to lala land. So no rain for you.

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at February 26, 2014 06:00 PM (R3gO3)

294

I always thought a sequel of Cuckoos Nest was a natural minus Jack of course. Given the ending , I was left wondering what happened to the big injun???

Posted by: Regular Guy at February 26, 2014 06:00 PM (N3Al8)

295 Oh, I am. Not just because of that stupid pun, either. I have shame to spare. Well, duh. You're a Moron.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 06:00 PM (GEICT)

296 The Sabres just tied Boston with less than a minute to go. A really good hockey game going on. Buffalo has little to play for too.

Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 06:00 PM (vC/TC)

297 Rust Cohle (203) ty!...i only have episodes 1-2 Did I forget to mention 'spoiler warning'?

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 06:01 PM (k8m83)

298 So, Lexington BBQ is, despite central location, eastern-style?
Posted by: cthulhu
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No sir. If you are speaking of the particular restaurant by that name, they serve both as I recall, but "Lexington barbecue" is a red sauce. What most think of when they think of barbecue sauce.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:01 PM (4Mv1T)

299 Another long day at work. How is everyone tonight?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 10:00 PM (lr3d7)

Holy crap, I have not seen you in months, Alex!! How you been? xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:02 PM (8lmkt)

300 Wait so california is finally going to get its rain? We talking Noah's ark level or fly spitting in the wind level?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at February 26, 2014 06:02 PM (RZ8pf)

301 Oh Peaches, I just read that joke out loud to my wifi. LOL.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 06:02 PM (V70Uh)

302 I have southern roots back 2 generations ago that influenced my idea about breakfastÂ… southern, buttermilk, biscuits need redeye gravy, not that creamy crap that tastes like semi-liquid cardboard.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at February 26, 2014 06:02 PM (hpgw1)

303 Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 10:01 PM (4Mv1T)

Vinegar and pepper is almost perfect. That wonderful minimalist tang with the bite of the pepper.

Of course all other BBQ is pretty damned good too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:02 PM (QFxY5)

304 I can be counted in the group that never had biscuit and gravy before either. I've lived in the South for half my life now. Well, "South". The last 16 years in Northern Virginia andbefore that 4 years in Tampa. Technically I was in the South. Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 09:58 PM (vC/TC) If I don't try to make them myself I may see if the Market Lunch counter at Eastern Market in DC makes them.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:03 PM (MpP9p)

305 --I love the chicken biscuits at Chick Fil-A. I don't think any CFA sells gravy, though. It's the hate that makes them taste so good.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 26, 2014 06:03 PM (UAMVq)

306 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 09:58 PM (QFxY5) *** So I gathered. No worries.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 26, 2014 06:03 PM (g4TxM)

307 Popeye's rurnt their biscuits years ago, just plumb rurnt 'em, when they added the cornmeal topping. Plus, they dry more often than not. I can and have overlooked the odd feather or two on my fried chicken there, but I cannot abide a dry biscuit. And I personally do not think biscuits are easy to make. Not good ones, anyway.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:03 PM (Pfvig)

308

Google, Apple, and Yahoo move into and renovate urban blight zones. Heh. They're not stupid. I'm sure these companies could weather the local violent criminals with some despair, but what about grifters like THESE:

http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Community-Organizers-Chase-Trader-Joe-s-Out-of-Portlandia

Nope. You screaming leftists chased the jobs away. Now roll in your ash heap. Shriek to the heavens that it's all Bush's fault, if you'd like.

Posted by: JR at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (bKxJO)

309 You know what's good BBQ? Bullock's in Durham. They got both kinds, good hush puppies, and sweeeeet tea. I still think they have an all you can eat night for like nine bucks.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (4+AaH)

310 So that's why you threw her out of bed? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26 no but she has to sleep in the wet spot. and I'm gonna slap her momma, jackie gleason style, next time I see her.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (rDidD)

311 A couple of years ago, I posted a picture of some storm damage in California.

A plastic patio chair had been turned over by the wind.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (V70Uh)

312 I am having a hard time believing the number of people on this smart military blog that have never had biscuits & gravy or know what real bbq is.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (Ntnpb)

313 In the barrel In the barrel Ain't we got fun

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (MpP9p)

314 Wait so california is finally going to get its rain? We talking Noah's ark level or fly spitting in the wind level? Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle Depends on the reference point, of course. For SoCAL it looks like less Noah's and more like "OMG, HURRICANE!" So in real terms, Fly Spit Looking At FlyBoy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (xrX4n)

315 Our first barrelling of the evening!

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (doBIb)

316 So I gathered. No worries.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 26, 2014 10:03 PM (g4TxM)

Glad to hear it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (QFxY5)

317 Buffalo wins!

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:04 PM (MpP9p)

318 To the barrel JR, to the barrel!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (GEICT)

319 JR --> barrel

Posted by: Insomniac at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (UAMVq)

320 Peaches, I'm doing well enough. I've been lurking for the most part.

My rental property in El Paso was broken in to last week, so I'm trying to deal with getting the repairs done, including replacing the brand new carpet that I installed two months ago. Meanwhile work keeps me busy, which is good since the military budget cuts have people worried.

How have you been, darling?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (lr3d7)

321 And... barrel.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (Ntnpb)

322 232 I don't know what you guys think you see in Rome. They never were worth a shit. And they were not the largest empire in history, or even their own time.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 09:50 PM (xq1UY)

It was an ancient, large, influential, and successful republic. I think the U.S. government after the adoption of the Constitution bore more similarity to and was more influenced by the structure of the Roman Republic than any other government that had existed up to that point.

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (bN3zc)

323 258 so, if attorneys general get to decide which laws to enforce, maybe we should decide which ones to follow? Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 09:53 PM (rDidD) The Dem 50% has been doing that forever. Looks like its time for the other 50% to do it now.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (HxSXm)

324 Posted by: JR at February 26, 2014 10:04 PM (bKxJO) B-b-b-b-b-arrel!

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (xrX4n)

325 Dang JR. Enjoy the barrel.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (4+AaH)

326 "rurnt"-

Now there is a proper Suth'nah.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (4Mv1T)

327 Logprof, I presume you render proper respect to the Finns and Ugres too, then.

I am not bound by the Donation of Constantine.

They didn't invent Latin, it was derived like any other language, and they did their serious work (or had it done for them, by slaves) in Greek. And they knew it too.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (xq1UY)

328 Nowadays I make real ice tea from scratch by boiling water on the stove, steeping the tea, and then chilling it down in the refrigerator. Posted by: rickl at February 26, 2014 09:50 PM ---------------------------------------- Good grief. I suppose, if you wish for eggs, you expect them to come out of a chicken?

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (DtNNC)

329 I don't know what you guys think you see in Rome. They never were worth a shit. And they were not the largest empire in history, or even their own time.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 09:50 PM (xq1UY)

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?!?!

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:05 PM (doBIb)

330 312 I am having a hard time believing the number of people on this smart military blog that have never had biscuits & gravy or know what real bbq is. Don't even ask about shrimp&grits

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 06:06 PM (k8m83)

331 Crap. Sorry. I was REALLY trying hard to get rid of the "Your message is full of unbroken text and annoying." error. C&P from Notepad: No. C&P from Word: NO NO NO.

Posted by: JR at February 26, 2014 06:06 PM (bKxJO)

332 I love biscuits and gravy, but I like to add hot crumbled sausage to the gravy.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 06:06 PM (lr3d7)

333 Don't even ask about shrimp&grits I love shrimp and grits.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 26, 2014 06:07 PM (UAMVq)

334 I can't believe people like anything fast food. Let alone enough to post about it. One thing the North does have is outrageous good food at local restaurants. I lived in FL for over 30 years and do like everything about Southern cooking, but fast food???

Posted by: Regular Guy at February 26, 2014 06:07 PM (N3Al8)

335 Yay. Someone other than me going into the barrel. Hey JR, I was in there for a couple days last week, there seems to be a large colony of some sort of nasty stinging over in the corner. Do NOT make any sudden movements. (I suspect it is just a type of weevil)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 26, 2014 06:07 PM (g4TxM)

336 And I personally do not think biscuits are easy to make. Not good ones, anyway.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 10:03 PM (Pfvig)

Cornmeal? CORNMEAL?

Fucking savages.

And they are easy. But there are rules.

Don't overwork the dough.

Fat is your friend.

If you want them brown on the top, brush them with butter. Don't bake 'em so they dry out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:07 PM (QFxY5)

337 HAHA, an undermanned Buffalo beat the big bad Bruins in OT. Next up, LA/Colorado. St. Louis/Vancouver are on too (10:30 EST)

Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 06:08 PM (vC/TC)

338 And I personally do not think biscuits are easy to make. Not good ones, anyway.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 10:03 PM (Pfvig)

Tammy, my sister makes perfect biscuits. I've never done it, but she buys Bisquick and does whatever it says on the package and they are perfectamundo. She kinda sucks at the gravy part, though.

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:08 PM (8lmkt)

339 232 I don't know what you guys think you see in Rome. They never were worth a shit. And they were not the largest empire in history, or even their own time. Let me know if the Empire State Building's still standing in the year 4000.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 06:08 PM (k8m83)

340 Bowling, as a sport, was a variation of a game originally called Skittles. Damn British stole the idea from a dude that invented Bowlivia, he was Simon bolitfar or sumthin' White ass privilege .

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 06:08 PM (A6qKE)

341 oh, yeah, cornmeal on the biscuits? gack!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:08 PM (8lmkt)

342 By the way, I wrote that last post in the Latin alphabet.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 06:08 PM (k8m83)

343 I've had hominy not grits, and I've had biscuits and gravy but never a plate of 'biscuits and gravy.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 06:09 PM (xrX4n)

344 Avs v. Kings- up next. Glad to see the NHL back in action. Catch y'all later.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 26, 2014 06:09 PM (g4TxM)

345 Never had grits either.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 06:09 PM (Q8vlx)

346 We have Western Civilization because of them.

You shit, too. You have civilization in spite of them.
Back-stabbing, lying sons of bitches. Everything they touched turned to ashes.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 06:10 PM (xq1UY)

347 See ya, Seamus!

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:10 PM (MpP9p)

348 I like biscuits with butter and gravy with fried chicken. But biscuits & gravy together seem wrong to me. Carol, I'm glad you saw my post.

Posted by: votermom at February 26, 2014 06:10 PM (GSIDW)

349 took a tiny taste of grits once, said, mmm, nice, no thanks. hominy? no, just no. i'm a northern girl, why would i have that when there's bacons?

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:10 PM (8lmkt)

350 When I make biscuits, I adulterate the ever-lovin' crap out of 'em -- dill and garlic, cheese, savory, parsley....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 06:11 PM (T1005)

351 291 I don't know what you guys think you see in Rome. They never were worth a shit. And they were not the largest empire in history, or even their own time. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 09:50 PM (xq1UY) We have Western Civilization because of them. Posted by: The Political Hat at February 26, 2014 10:00 PM (XvHmy) --One doesn't need to love the Romans as a people to appreciate the historical parallels. Despite the much greater closeness (temporally, demographically, and culturally) between the USA and the British Empire, the experience of the latter strikes me as less instructive, or at least less interesting, than that of ancient Rome. The British built a maritime empire that had areas of great settlement (the Dominions) but was more commercial, and was centered on a metropole that was internally diverse but still literally insular. Rome built a more or less contiguous empire that was terrestrial, encompassed a great variety of peoples to whom the empire extended the possibility of citizenship, and was adept at absorbing some of the best aspects of the conquered (and it was about conquest much more than commerce). If there's a big parallel among all three, it is that inter-class strife and the politics of envy have played a role in the collapse of all three.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:11 PM (X3GkB)

352 Are we seriously pissing on Rome right now? Because you know who pisses me of? Assyrians. What the hell was that all about?

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 06:11 PM (4+AaH)

353 Shit, I missed an embarreling while typing that lengthy comment.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:11 PM (X3GkB)

354 345Â Never had grits either _______ Next thing you know, someone will say they've never had collards. Heathens.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 06:12 PM (Ntnpb)

355 Considering Buffalo is waiting to the trade deadline to pass just to see who the hell is left, beating Boston was kind of nice.

Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 06:12 PM (vC/TC)

356 Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 10:10 PM (8lmkt)

A fine Southern restaurant can elevate grits to something unbelievable.

Shrimp, grits, lardons, cheese....

Give it a chance.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:12 PM (QFxY5)

357 296 The Sabres just tied Boston with less than a minute to go. A really good hockey game going on. Buffalo has little to play for too. Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 10:00 PM (vC/TC) --I wonder who will get Ryan Miller.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:12 PM (X3GkB)

358 Next thing you know, someone will say they've never had collards. Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 10:12 PM (Ntnpb) *Raises hand* I'm doing so well tonight!

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:13 PM (MpP9p)

359 Ideally, in blighted ones

They became "blighted" precisely BECAUSE of the actions of people like "Directors of Sustainability," and all the other creative euphemisms they've used for their titles over the years.

Posted by: Phinn at February 26, 2014 06:13 PM (KOGmz)

360 heh Brad Thor ‏@BradThor Radical Muslim cleric @anjemchoudary is upset with this picture. So please help retweet it. Thank you pic.twitter.com/JRFqMTk0SK h/t @dmbatten

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2014 06:13 PM (ZPrif)

361 A fine Southern restaurant can elevate grits to something unbelievable. Shrimp, grits, lardons, cheese.... Give it a chance. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 10:12 PM (QFxY5) Huey's on the River in Savannah.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 06:13 PM (GEICT)

362 Tammy! If you're still here, we're not due until early June. Just getting warmed up to tackle the nursery next month. How are you?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 06:13 PM (sQ0LB)

363 *Raises hand*

I'm doing so well tonight!

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 10:13 PM (MpP9p)

Now, it's your turn to ask if anyone has had poutine.

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:13 PM (doBIb)

364 There is place around here called First Farmers that makes kind of frou frou turns on southern food, but their chicken and waffles is killer.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 06:13 PM (4+AaH)

365 Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:11 PM (T1005)

I go the other way.

Plain biscuits but split and filled with all sorts of goodies.

Sausage, cheese, sauteed onion, lots of pepper, etc.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:13 PM (QFxY5)

366 I'm a heathen. Never had collards.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 06:14 PM (Q8vlx)

367 Shrimp, grits, lardons, cheese....

Give it a chance.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 10:12 PM (QFxY5)

okay, I do trust your foodisms, CBD. does Lean Cuisine have it? 'cause, in LA, it is guaran-damn-teed to suck, they probably make it with quinoa or some shit that even the goats won't eat

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:15 PM (8lmkt)

368

Popeyes is the only fast food restaurant I like (and I've never found feathers in my chicken). I don't ever make fried chicken at home so it's my go-to place when I have a craving for it.

McDonald's fries ain't what they used to be, so I don't go there anymore.

As much as I'd like to support Chik-A-Fil, the nearest one is a 50 mile round trip for me. I'd drive that far for a really great ribeye steak, not a chicken sandwich.

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at February 26, 2014 06:15 PM (R3gO3)

369 Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 10:13 PM (4+AaH)

And the cooks all wear big watches.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:15 PM (QFxY5)

370 357: Pittsburgh! ;-) I kid, I hope. After last years trade line deals that looked great on paper but failed in practice, I would prefer Pittsburgh not go for the shiny red ball and get what they need. I think Miller would do well in St. Louis.

Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 06:15 PM (vC/TC)

371 Now, it's your turn to ask if anyone has had poutine. Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 10:13 PM (doBIb) ________ I've seen the stuff. I'm not poutine it in my mouth.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 06:15 PM (Ntnpb)

372 Chedder cheese biscuits are great, especially the next day piled high with sliced ham.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 06:15 PM (lr3d7)

373 It was the lack of sausage in the Bob Evans gravy that disappointed me.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 06:15 PM (V70Uh)

374 You know something, if grits didn't exist Flo would have had to say, "Well, kiss my tits."

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 06:15 PM (xrX4n)

375 The key to collards?

Cook them three times as long as anyone tells you. It cooks the bitterness out of them.

And bacon. Lots of bacon.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:16 PM (4Mv1T)

376 If you've had corn, you've had grits. All of those tall green plants you see in the summer? Grits bushes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 06:16 PM (aDwsi)

377 312 I am having a hard time believing the number of people on this smart military blog that have never had biscuits & gravy or know what real bbq is.
Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 10:04 PM (Ntnpb) Hide posts from (Ntnpb)

This is one of those deals like IT guys used to say: "of course, we love standards -- that's why we have so many of them." Some folks out here think BBQ is Santa Maria style....I'm content to keep sampling different types of BBQ without trying to assess which might be more real than another.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 06:16 PM (T1005)

378 If you've had corn, you've had grits. All of those tall green plants you see in the summer? Grits bushes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 10:16 PM (aDwsi)

you mean ethanol subsidies????

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:17 PM (8lmkt)

379 Up here if you don't eat bar b cued polar bear, you suck.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 06:17 PM (Q8vlx)

380 Now, it's your turn to ask if anyone has had poutine. Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 10:13 PM (doBIb) My most recent poutine was from McDonalds. (Poutine is French fries, cheese curds, and gravy. Its' origin is Quebec's fault. Mickey D's used to have it only in Quebec but recently made it available in locations all over Canada.)

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:17 PM (MpP9p)

381 A fine Southern restaurant can elevate grits to something unbelievable. Shrimp, grits, lardons, cheese.... Give it a chance. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 10:12 PM (QFxY5) Huey's on the River in Savannah. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 10:13 PM (GEICT) When I have to do my Annual few weeks for the Navy it's always in the South where I like the people and the food better.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 06:17 PM (nzKvP)

382 It was the lack of sausage in the Bob Evans gravy that disappointed me. Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 10:15 PM (V70Uh) Huh. The last time I was there, there were plenty of nice pieces of sausage. Granted, that was over a year ago, and they are probably getting cheap b/c of inflation.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:17 PM (hjKMO)

383 if grits aren't hominy, what are they?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 06:17 PM (V70Uh)

384 I've seen the stuff. I'm not poutine it in my mouth.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 10:15 PM (Ntnpb)

Cheese fries with gravy???

Come on!

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:17 PM (doBIb)

385 If you've had cream of wheat, you've had grits. Not bad if you add brown sugar.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 06:17 PM (k8m83)

386 Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 10:15 PM (8lmkt)

There are good recipes if you are that interested, but if not, just hope and pray that you have the opportunity to eat in the South. Charleston, Savannah, Atlanta (and several other places). They will knock your socks off with their food. The equal of any in the country, with far less pretense.

And no quinoa.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:17 PM (QFxY5)

387 Back-stabbing, lying sons of bitches. Everything they touched turned to ashes.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 10:10 PM (xq1UY)

Come on, look at what was going on in Britain, France, the Balkans, and Spain before the Romans showed up and after.

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2014 06:18 PM (bN3zc)

388 The Byzantine Empire stood for approx. 1,000 years longer than Rome. And deserves credit for keeping large parts of Europe free from Islamic rule for that time period as well.

Posted by: Iasonas at February 26, 2014 06:18 PM (FHNkr)

389 You can get collard greens at many BBQ places here. I've made one version in a crockpot that turned out decent, 2nd try was awful, but I know now to never, ever buy frozen greens. Holy snikes, that stuff is bad.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 06:18 PM (xrX4n)

390 Tammy al Thor said "rurnt". That is awesome, girl.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 26, 2014 06:18 PM (HGIxv)

391 "Grits bushes"

or "whiskey trees"

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:18 PM (4Mv1T)

392 Grits bushes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 10:16 PM (aDwsi)

Reason #23,097 why I love this place.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:19 PM (QFxY5)

393 UNC and NCState are in overtime. Die, Tarheels, die!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 06:19 PM (dfYL9)

394 The Byzantine Empire stood for approx. 1,000 years longer than Rome. And deserves credit for keeping large parts of Europe free from Islamic rule for that time period as well.

Posted by: Iasonas at February 26, 2014 10:18 PM (FHNkr)

Their strategy for accomplishing that seemed so.....byzantine.

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:19 PM (doBIb)

395 Malt-o-meal then?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 06:19 PM (Q8vlx)

396 Rust Cohle..... there's a float going round that watching "true detective" will make you go crazy like that yellow book. i was crazy for twin peaks, the sopranos, deadwood, breaking bad and justified but it's nothing like the crazy love i have for true detective.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 06:19 PM (AwcHw)

397 "Grits bushes" or "whiskey trees" Posted by: Tobacco Road ------------------- Corn..., is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 06:20 PM (aDwsi)

398 UNC and NCState are in overtime.
Die, Tarheels, die!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 10:19 PM (dfYL9)

LOL! Not a UNC fan are we?

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:20 PM (doBIb)

399 The Byzantine Empire stood for approx. 1,000 years longer than Rome. And deserves credit for keeping large parts of Europe free from Islamic rule for that time period as well.

Posted by: Iasonas at February 26, 2014 10:18 PM (FHNkr)

The Byzantine Empire *was* Rome. It was the Eastern Roman Empire.

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2014 06:20 PM (bN3zc)

400 if grits aren't hominy, what are they?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo
--------------------------------

Hominy grits are yellow. Grits are white. Both are corn.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:20 PM (4Mv1T)

401 Constantine left Rome because he felt it was too corrupt and immoral.

You know, it's as if Constantine was the first Galt.

Posted by: Iasonas at February 26, 2014 06:20 PM (FHNkr)

402 Corn..., is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 10:20 PM (aDwsi)

Nope.

Posted by: Cornholio at February 26, 2014 06:21 PM (QFxY5)

403 (Poutine is French fries, cheese curds, and gravy. Its' origin is Quebec's fault. Mickey D's used to have it only in Quebec but recently made it available in locations all over Canada.) Poutine is the "super size" of Canada. It's the upsell. However, there are dedicated "gourmet poutine" joints around, now. And plenty of "gourmet" burger places that are nothing of the kind. Wooo! You put a fried egg on a frozen chopped (not ground, chopped) beef patty. Nicely done. All in all, if it isn't thai or a burger joint, there's a disturbing lack of imagination in what you would think should be a very diverse selection of places.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:21 PM (hjKMO)

404 Corn is delish. One of the few vegetables I like. Why fuck with it? I just don't get that . . .

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:21 PM (8lmkt)

405 does strunk and white recommend 'biotch" or "beyotch" ?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:21 PM (rDidD)

406

Hominy is pretty weird. And collard greens are just OK.

Nah, I'd rather grill up a bunch a bunch of brats and serve them with fresh (not canned) sauerkraut and lots of brown mustard. Or munch on venison summer sausage and colby cheese...

Damnit, now I'm hungry and I want it to be summer.

Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at February 26, 2014 06:21 PM (R3gO3)

407 361 A fine Southern restaurant can elevate grits to something unbelievable.

Shrimp, grits, lardons, cheese....

Give it a chance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 10:12 PM (QFxY5)

Huey's on the River in Savannah. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 10:13 PM (GEICT) Hide posts from (GEICT)

OK, that one's written down. Did I mention I'll be in Savannah and Charleston at the end of next month?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 06:22 PM (T1005)

408 327 Logprof, I presume you render proper respect to the Finns and Ugres too, then. I am not bound by the Donation of Constantine. They didn't invent Latin, it was derived like any other language, and they did their serious work (or had it done for them, by slaves) in Greek. And they knew it too. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 10:05 PM (xq1UY) --That is true. Latin was something of a gutter language of the time. The persistence of languages cannot be dismissed so easily. Ask anyone who speaks Hebrew. The ancient Greeks' legacy of their language, both through the modifications of the Cyrillic alphabet and indirectly though the Eastern Orthodox Churches, is also impressive. As for the Catholic Church, it *is* an enduring remnant of the Empire. (The use of the word diocese comes straight from the Roman army.) Just as full participation in that organization is ultimately voluntary (for adults at least), so was the choice of non-Romans to acquire citizenship.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:22 PM (X3GkB)

409 Whiskey trees. I fuckin love it. That is classic.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 06:22 PM (Q8vlx)

410 anyone see eight or so cans of solid gold coins?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:22 PM (rDidD)

411 UNC and NCState are in overtime. Die, Tarheels, die! Posted by: Margarita ---------------- Madame! Please...

Posted by: Tarhell, Born and Bred at February 26, 2014 06:22 PM (aDwsi)

412 388 The Byzantine Empire stood for approx. 1,000 years longer than Rome. And deserves credit for keeping large parts of Europe free from Islamic rule for that time period as well. Don't forget my man Vlad Tepes. He was a bad man that kept the other bad men from the door.

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 06:22 PM (k8m83)

413 I think Miller would do well in St. Louis. Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 10:15 PM (vC/TC) I think Edmonton would have made a run for him if Scrivens wasn't doing so well, aka. making the record books with his most saves in a regulation shutout performance last month.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:23 PM (MpP9p)

414

"Biscuits and gravy."

"With two hardboiled eggs."

[honk]

"Make that three hardboiled eggs."

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 26, 2014 06:23 PM (BAS5M)

415 383Â if grits aren't hominy, what are they? Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 26, 2014 10:17 PM (V70Uh) ____________ If they're charging you $20 for it, they'll call it polenta. And I thought poutine had mayo on it, too. No? Cooth, I as just having fun with TR's run on N.C. style bbq. I like almost all of it, too. But gin gar based is best when done correctly.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 06:23 PM (Ntnpb)

416 Shem's Creek in Charleston.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 06:23 PM (4+AaH)

417 >>Corn..., is there anything it can't do? Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 10:20 PM (aDwsi) Nope. Posted by: Cornholio TeePee?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 06:23 PM (xrX4n)

418 anyone see eight or so cans of solid gold coins? Posted by: yankeefifth
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$10 million worth?

I been lookin' for that.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:23 PM (4Mv1T)

419 Did I mention I'll be in Savannah and Charleston at the end of next month?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:22 PM (T1005)

Don't know if you are a filthy Jooo, but the old synagogue in Charleston is beautiful.

And eat at Slightly North of Broad.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:23 PM (QFxY5)

420 anyone see eight or so cans of solid gold coins?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 10:22 PM (rDidD)

OMG, I want to BE those people. So bad.

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:24 PM (8lmkt)

421 I once knew a girl, had sex all over the furniture - then they kicked us out of IKEA

Posted by: MikeH at February 26, 2014 06:24 PM (bRL1M)

422 does strunk and white recommend 'biotch" or "beyotch" ? I believe E.B. White would say that if you must use the pejorative, use "bitch." It is more concise and direct, and leaves little ambiguity in meaning.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:24 PM (hjKMO)

423 Ugh. *vinegar* based...

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 06:24 PM (Ntnpb)

424 Shem's Creek in Charleston. Posted by: blaster
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Even better. Boulevard Diner, just a couple blocks down the street.

Or The Wreck. But you'll have to look for it. It's hidden away.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:25 PM (4Mv1T)

425 You shit, too. You have civilization in spite of them. Back-stabbing, lying sons of bitches. Everything they touched turned to ashes. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 10:10 PM (xq1UY) --Not the Parthenon. It was the Turks using it as a armory that led to it's roof being blown off from an accidental explosion.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:25 PM (X3GkB)

426 Lauren, I don't like Bisquik biscuits. Too heavy. My Daddy loved them, though. CharlieBrown, you are exactly right in your directions, especially with regards to not over working your dough, but a person can either make biscuits or they can not. I am a can not. Grits is a texture issue with me. I don't eat food that feels like vomit in my mouth. No oatmeal, no rice pudding, no creamed corn. I'm a swallower from way back, but lumpy food is not among the things I will swallow.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:25 PM (Pfvig)

427 And they are in My Pleasant.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:25 PM (4Mv1T)

428 Prediction : An uptick in metal detector sales in California.

Posted by: Tarhell, Born and Bred at February 26, 2014 06:25 PM (aDwsi)

429 They didn't invent Latin, it was derived like any other language, and they did their serious work (or had it done for them, by slaves) in Greek. And they knew it too.

If that's going to be the standard, you could just as easily say any European country's scientific or philosophical works through the 1600s are not their own because it was done in Latin.

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2014 06:25 PM (bN3zc)

430 Don't forget my man Vlad Tepes. He was a bad man that kept the other bad men from the door. I've had that kind of food before - the all appetizer thing. I don't see the fuss.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:25 PM (hjKMO)

431 You're beginning to get what I'm saying. But for starters, "res pulica" does not mean "republic." Voting was by tribe. Rights inhered in clans, not individuals. On rare occasion a family might be elevated to the senatorial class, but those families -- like historical analogies? -- behaved more like the Mafia (not surprising) than a Congress.

No, the worship of Rome, and the wish to be like it, is the result of a bunch of different tinpot dictators claiming to be the New one, and their old account books being translated into Arabic and then back into Italian. And those dictators had stables of copyists and commentators working for them. Some books got written.

I studied Latin for years. We should be attempting to learn from their mistakes and failings, not worshiping them as a lost golden age.

The Romans built in stone, huzzah. They didn't have much wood. They did their building with slaves, and the loot from captive nations. Any place where there is frost, you might find pieces of their buildings laying around, but seldom one stone on another.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 06:26 PM (xq1UY)

432 388 The Byzantine Empire stood for approx. 1,000 years longer than Rome. And deserves credit for keeping large parts of Europe free from Islamic rule for that time period as well. while that is true from what I have read it is because it was so, byzantine.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:26 PM (rDidD)

433 Damn. "Mt Pleasant, SC." Shem Creek and Boulevard Diner.

sheesh

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:26 PM (4Mv1T)

434 OK, that one's written down. Did I mention I'll be in Savannah and Charleston at the end of next month? Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:22 PM (T1005) If you wanna try Huey's, go make your lunch reservation at about 8am. Then you can go try another place for breakfast, tool around Savannah a bit and then come back at lunch time. They serve the shrimp and grits all day. Oh. And you have to get the beignets.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 06:26 PM (GEICT)

435 352 Are we seriously pissing on Rome right now? Because you know who pisses me of? Assyrians. What the hell was that all about? Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 10:11 PM (4+AaH) --Some of the funniest parts of The Vicar of Wakefield were when the title character brings up Tilgath-Pileasar.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:26 PM (X3GkB)

436 - 349 took a tiny taste of grits once, said, mmm, nice, no thanks. hominy? no, just no. i'm a northern girl, why would i have that when there's bacons? Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 10:10 PM ------------------------------------------------------------- I'm really not a fan, either. But, look at the humble potato. Eaten raw, with a little salt, it's not bad, but not something to go on about. Now look at all the awesomeness possible with it as a major ingredient. I won't bother listing any. Everyone knows some.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 06:26 PM (DtNNC)

437 Poutine is the "super size" of Canada. It's the upsell. However, there are dedicated "gourmet poutine" joints around, now. Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 10:21 PM (hjKMO) I can get poutine from Spike Mendohlson's burger joint in DC if I'm really desperate. Where are you in the Great White North, if you don't mind me asking?

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:27 PM (MpP9p)

438 UNC and NCState are in overtime. Die, Tarheels, die! Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 10:19 PM (dfYL9) Now now, be nice. Be nice. No need to make enemies

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 06:27 PM (nzKvP)

439 400
if grits aren't hominy, what are they?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo
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Hominy grits are yellow. Grits are white. Both are corn.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 10:20 PM (4Mv1T) Hide posts from (4Mv1T)

So grits are Skandi polenta?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 06:27 PM (T1005)

440 She said, "swallow"

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:27 PM (4Mv1T)

441 If you accept that "civilization" began in Greece, it's rather odd that it has trended westward only since then. Rome, HRE, GB, US.......among some others. It has nowhere to go now. The circle has been completed, unless we change. Sad to lose such a great concept.

Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 06:27 PM (A6qKE)

442 $10 million worth? I been lookin' for that. Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26 you too, huh, go figure

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:27 PM (rDidD)

443 404 Corn is delish. One of the few vegetables I like. Why fuck with it? I just don't get that I agree. That may be why I prefer bourbon to scotch.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 06:27 PM (k8m83)

444 Crank, thanks for the info! I am so happy for you!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:28 PM (Pfvig)

445 "I'm a swallower from way back..."

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 10:25 PM (Pfvig)

And in the interest of not getting my ass kicked, I will leave this alone.

Absent any skill at biscuit making, can you cultivate a friendship with someone who has the talent?

Because biscuits are in any rational person's food pyramid.

I believe right next to bacon and slightly below Scotch Whiskey.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:28 PM (QFxY5)

446 Brit Hume ‏@brithume 33m Kirsten you should read this: http://t.co/RaNmKXrCtk @kirstenpowers10: Bless you! RT @GovBrewer: Moments ago, I vetoed #SB1062.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 06:28 PM (DmNpO)

447 I'm a swallower from way back.... You did not just say that in here.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 06:28 PM (4+AaH)

448 She said, "swallow" Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, I've got a funny story about that, heh.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:28 PM (rDidD)

449 I'm a swallower from way back, but lumpy food is not among the things I will swallow. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 10:25 PM (Pfvig) You owe me a new monitor.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 06:28 PM (GEICT)

450 As much as I'd like to support Chik-A-Fil, the nearest one is a 50 mile round trip for me. I'd drive that far for a really great ribeye steak, not a chicken sandwich. Posted by: Donna and V. (no ampersand) at February 26, 2014 10:15 PM (R3gO3) --Next time you're flying, seek one out in the airport. The worst part is the lines, since they are so popular.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:28 PM (X3GkB)

451 Where are you in the Great White North, if you don't mind me asking? Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 10:27 PM (MpP9p) I am in Toronto. Well, work in TO, live in Mississauga.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:29 PM (hjKMO)

452 And I thought poutine had mayo on it, too. No? Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 10:23 PM (Ntnpb) No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:29 PM (MpP9p)

453 Hey Peaches! So Tammy and Peaches are here, but no AtC. It's like if all 3 of them were in the same thread at the same time, the blog would implode.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 06:29 PM (sQ0LB)

454 It has nowhere to go now. The circle has been completed, unless we change. Sad to lose such a great concept. Posted by: seamrog at February 26, 2014 10:27 PM (A6qKE) Time is a circle. A flat circle

Posted by: Rust at February 26, 2014 06:29 PM (bRL1M)

455 I am in Toronto. Well, work in TO, live in Mississauga.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 10:29 PM (hjKMO)

Hey! I lived in the Eee-tob right next to you.

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:30 PM (doBIb)

456 AD, I'm sure you know about Bacon's English project, and how much of English was Latinate before that. Don't you feel a little far out on the limb, there? I note you're not conjugating your verbs, much.

Chinese airline pilots call the tower in English. You feel all triumphal over that?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 06:31 PM (xq1UY)

457 398 , 411 ---- Heh! Refs giving the game to the 'heels, ....as usual. Tied with 10 secs.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 06:31 PM (dfYL9)

458 Where do chicken and waffles come from?

Posted by: lindafell at February 26, 2014 06:31 PM (PGO8C)

459 Go WOLFPACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:31 PM (4Mv1T)

460 441 If you accept that "civilization" began in Greece, it's rather odd that it has trended westward only since then. Rome, HRE, GB, US.......among some others. It has nowhere to go now. The circle has been completed, unless we change. Sad to lose such a great concept. To go West, you must go East.

Posted by: Quaithe of the Shadow at February 26, 2014 06:31 PM (k8m83)

461 I believe E.B. White would say that if you must use the pejorative, use "bitch." It is more concise and direct, and leaves little ambiguity in meaning. Posted by: grognard at February 26 sadly, now that I have two bitches, I find using bitch in a perjorative sense undesirable. no way am I gonna denigrate something as magnificent as my two girls. I was making a move to "slut" but it is not as easy to use in a comedic way in a casual setting.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:31 PM (rDidD)

462 Fun Fact, I used to work for the producer of Kingpin. Farely brothers couldn't stand him. In there movie There's Something About Marry, they named the dick cop that questions ben stiller after the producer.

Posted by: Shonuff at February 26, 2014 06:31 PM (yXRXV)

463 Their^

Posted by: Shonuff at February 26, 2014 06:32 PM (yXRXV)

464 Where do chicken and waffles come from?

Posted by: lindafell at February 26, 2014 10:31 PM (PGO8C)

The Roman Empire.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:32 PM (QFxY5)

465 434 OK, that one's written down. Did I mention I'll be in Savannah and Charleston at the end of next month?
Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:22 PM (T1005)

If you wanna try Huey's, go make your lunch reservation at about 8am. Then you can go try another place for breakfast, tool around Savannah a bit and then come back at lunch time. They serve the shrimp and grits all day.

Oh. And you have to get the beignets. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 10:26 PM (GEICT) Hide posts from (GEICT)

They only do same-day reservations?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 06:32 PM (T1005)

466 You owe me a new monitor. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk monitor, she owes me a paycheck because my memory is occupied for the next two weeks or so.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (rDidD)

467 Let Them Eat Cake! I dunno why, that just popped into my head this evening. Can't imagine why.

Posted by: filbert at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (roTS7)

468 Which came first; the chicken or the waffle?

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (k8m83)

469 You're beginning to get what I'm saying. But for starters, "res pulica" does not mean "republic." Voting was by tribe. Rights inhered in clans, not individuals. On rare occasion a family might be elevated to the senatorial class, but those families -- like historical analogies? -- behaved more like the Mafia (not surprising) than a Congress.

No, the worship of Rome, and the wish to be like it, is the result of a bunch of different tinpot dictators claiming to be the New one, and their old account books being translated into Arabic and then back into Italian. And those dictators had stables of copyists and commentators working for them. Some books got written.

I studied Latin for years. We should be attempting to learn from their mistakes and failings, not worshiping them as a lost golden age.

The checks and balances in the federal government descends directly from the Roman Republic. The government the Constitution outlined bore more similarity to the Republic than the parliamentary system the Brits had. If you doubt the influence, why do you think the founding fathers all used Roman aliases when arguing about the Constitution? Why do you think Washington loved Addison's play about Cato? Come on, this is ridiculous.

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (bN3zc)

470 Where do chicken and waffles come from?

Posted by: lindafell at February 26, 2014 10:31 PM (PGO8C)

The Roman Empire.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Chickens and waffles both come from eggs.

Duh.

EVERYBODY knows that.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (4Mv1T)

471 413 I think Miller would do well in St. Louis. Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 10:15 PM (vC/TC) I think Edmonton would have made a run for him if Scrivens wasn't doing so well, aka. making the record books with his most saves in a regulation shutout performance last month. Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 10:23 PM (MpP9p) --Some in Winnipeg are fantasizing about him, but I think Montoya has potential to grow into a true #1 goalie.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (X3GkB)

472 They only do same-day reservations? Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:32 PM (T1005) Nobody is promised the next day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (nzKvP)

473 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 10:28 PM (QFxY5) Son, I am a Georgia girl, with roots going back in VA and NC to the 1500s. I am related to dozens of biscuit makers, most of whom have tried to teach me. I am told I lack the patience needed to learn the art. I can make Bisquik drop biscuits, and he likes them well enough, but I don't. My skills lie elsewhere. My husband has no complaints. He will make a biscuit run for me any time I ask. (Well, he used to) I can make croissants, though!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (Pfvig)

474

Regarding my ongiong quest for a rifle--got to handle some used pieces at Gander Mountain today--nice action on the X-bolt, also a Ruger Hawkeye. However, I think my favorite was a Weatherby.

Still need to handle some more pieces before deciding, as well as figure out what Mrs. Crank's uncle is holding from her late father, he had a lot of muzzle loaders but a few more modern pieces as well.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (sQ0LB)

475

No Marx brothers fans here, apparently.

[honk]

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 26, 2014 06:33 PM (BAS5M)

476 OMG, I want to BE those people. So bad. Posted by: Peaches at February 26 if you were these people you would be smart enough not to tell anyone.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:34 PM (rDidD)

477 They only do same-day reservations? Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:32 PM (T1005) Good question. No idea.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 06:34 PM (GEICT)

478 Sean Davis ‏@seanmdav Two men suing a woman because she won't get back in the kitchen and bake a cake is the most #WarOnWomen thing ever

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 26, 2014 06:34 PM (ZPrif)

479 sadly, now that I have two bitches, I find using bitch in a perjorative sense undesirable. no way am I gonna denigrate something as magnificent as my two girls. I was making a move to "slut" but it is not as easy to use in a comedic way in a casual setting. Might I suggest "ho" as your descriptor?

Posted by: Zombie E.B. White at February 26, 2014 06:35 PM (hjKMO)

480 I can make croissants, though!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 10:33 PM (Pfvig)

No shit?

That is serious baking.

I doff my hat to you young lady.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:35 PM (QFxY5)

481 I am in Toronto. Well, work in TO, live in Mississauga. Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 10:29 PM (hjKMO) Coincidentally, I had a conversation with someone today about how to pronounce Toronto: whether it's TOR-on-to, Tor-on_TO, or Trawna.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:35 PM (MpP9p)

482 MMMM MMM I could go for a big ole helpin of whisker biscuits right now followed with a side of bearded clams

Posted by: Regular Guy at February 26, 2014 06:35 PM (N3Al8)

483 Mass Dems Honor Former Democratic State Rep Recently Released From Federal Prison On Bribery ChargesÂ… Dianne Wilkerson Anyone from Mass knows who Dianne Wilkerson is, for those who donÂ’t, she was caught on tape stuffing cash from an undercover FBI agent into her bra. Weasel Zippers: Dems have no honor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 06:35 PM (nzKvP)

484 475 No Marx brothers fans here, apparently. [honk] Posted by: Count de Monet at February 26, 2014 10:33 PM (BAS5M) Karl Marx?

Posted by: Organizing for Amerika at February 26, 2014 06:35 PM (bRL1M)

485 MissTammy is back and bring the double entendre

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:35 PM (rDidD)

486 I've been watching the Super Skyscrapers series on PBS and tonight it's about One57, the billionaire residence building going up in Manhattan. It just occurred to me that, other than the fact that the kitchens and bathrooms are much larger and contain tens of thousands more in materials, are really no more functional than the average home. Does one really NEED perfect slabs of ebony in their kitchen or single slabs of 12' wide Italian marble in their bathroom? No. But it sure is pretty.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 06:35 PM (DmNpO)

487 466 You owe me a new monitor. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk monitor, she owes me a paycheck because my memory is occupied for the next two weeks or so. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 10:33 PM (rDidD)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:35 PM (Pfvig)

488 Our local fox affiliate sucks bowling balls. CNN lite. All clownfuckers.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 06:36 PM (Q8vlx)

489 438-----Now now, be nice. Be nice. No need to make enemies Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 10:27 PM (nzKvP) ------------------- LOL! The Tarheels are kinda like the Yankees. Everyone in the ACC who isn't a Tarheel hates them ---mostly because they win too much! AND THE STINKING REFS LOVE THEM!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 06:36 PM (dfYL9)

490 AD, I'm sure you know about Bacon's English project, and how much of English was Latinate before that. Don't you feel a little far out on the limb, there? I note you're not conjugating your verbs, much.

Chinese airline pilots call the tower in English. You feel all triumphal over that?

Yeah, actually, I do. That's a sign of English's influence and, more importantly, a sign of America's influence over the past 100 years. For the Chinese to argue otherwise--and I know that some do--would be ridiculous.

It makes as much sense not to give Romans credit for works that were written in Greek as it does not to give medieval and early modern English, French, and Germans credit for works that were written in Latin.

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2014 06:36 PM (bN3zc)

491 Anyone from Mass knows who Dianne Wilkerson is, for those who donÂ’t, she was caught on tape stuffing cash from an undercover FBI agent into her bra. Weasel Zippers: Dems have no honor Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 10:35 PM (nzKvP) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Wilkerson.jpg

Posted by: Organizing for Amerika at February 26, 2014 06:36 PM (bRL1M)

492 Oh, good Lord, I just started looking back through the comments, and man, do I have some catching up to do. Or, on the other hand . . . fuckit. Cold enough for ya?

Posted by: filbert at February 26, 2014 06:38 PM (roTS7)

493 To-RON-to.

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:38 PM (doBIb)

494 You know those vids I've posted with the "Would you?" question.... I think this might be the ultimate 'NO!" It's so anxiety inducing that I literally feel ill after watching it. Two Russians climb to the top of China's largest tower, while still under construction: http://t.co/scWWY2FBF3

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 06:38 PM (DmNpO)

495 I studied Latin for years. We should be attempting to learn from their mistakes and failings, not worshiping them as a lost golden age. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 10:26 PM (xq1UY) --I think you're seeing *my* point as well.

I'm not worshiping Rome or Romans. I am suggesting them as a useful measuring stick for history, whether for weal or for woe. You're just focusing more on the latter, is all.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:38 PM (X3GkB)

496 A man's game charges a man's price. Take that away from this if nothing else.

Posted by: Martin Hart at February 26, 2014 06:38 PM (bRL1M)

497 Swallow - The Bird of True Love.

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 06:38 PM (wosEo)

498 ------------------- LOL! The Tarheels are kinda like the Yankees. Everyone in the ACC who isn't a Tarheel hates them ---mostly because they win too much! AND THE STINKING REFS LOVE THEM!!! Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 10:36 PM (dfYL9) Every Jewish Boy here up north with any basketball talent and an eye for pretty vimen wanted to go to UNC. And Larry Brown and Dick Grubar went my summer camp. Oh I never had that kind of basketball talent but I did luvs me the vimen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 06:38 PM (nzKvP)

499 486 I've been watching the Super Skyscrapers series on PBS and tonight it's about One57, the billionaire residence building going up in Manhattan. It just occurred to me that, other than the fact that the kitchens and bathrooms are much larger and contain tens of thousands more in materials, are really no more functional than the average home. Does one really NEED perfect slabs of ebony in their kitchen or single slabs of 12' wide Italian marble in their bathroom? No. But it sure is pretty. Reminds me of some luxury hotel program I was watching on TravelChannel earlier today. Some suites going for $10,000 a night that can't possibly be that much better than a $300/night room. The important thing to remember: prices are set to what the market will bear.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 06:38 PM (k8m83)

500 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 10:35 PM (DmNpO)

I hate that fucking building.

57th St. narrows to one lane at that site, because cocksucking mayor Bloomberg didn't give a shit about any non-millionare in a car.

57th St. is a major East-West street.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:39 PM (QFxY5)

501 Fork the Heels.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:39 PM (4Mv1T)

502 Filbert: fuckin a new record lows every nite.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 06:40 PM (Q8vlx)

503 --I think you're seeing *my* point as well. I'm not worshiping Rome or Romans. I am suggesting them as a useful measuring stick for history, whether for weal or for woe. You're just focusing more on the latter, is all. Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 10:38 PM (X3GkB) All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Posted by: Reg at February 26, 2014 06:40 PM (bRL1M)

504 496 A man's game charges a man's price. Take that away from this if nothing else. You're nothing without me, Marty.

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 06:40 PM (k8m83)

505 Hey! I lived in the Eee-tob right next to you. Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 10:30 PM (doBIb) I thought I remembered seeing you were from this area, but I couldn't remember where exactly. I've never heard that reference, but I've only been here since 2010. What's it mean?

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:40 PM (hjKMO)

506 That is serious baking. I doff my hat to you young lady. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 10:35 PM (QFxY5) Oddly enough, it requires plenty of patience. Days of patience. And I am having difficulties with the propane oven and baking in general. It seems like it's too hot, somehow, like things bake more quickly, even at reduced temps.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:40 PM (Pfvig)

507 @441 Get up off your knees, boy. It's unseemly.
Civilization certainly did not begin in Greece, although they had their moments, didn't they? The general thinking is Mesopotamia, where the first water taxes were collected. See, so much depends on definitions. Roman maps had east at the top.

China and Greece were probably about even, at about the same time. The Persians were the big game in town during most of Rome. Egypt, though loathsome in many respects, has to count for something. India had stuff going on, as, some big book tells me, did the smaller states in the eastern Med. But I'm not looking for a lost golden age to worship.

You guys have read some very wicked historians, is all. You can learn from Rome. You should never want to be like them. When it was new and shiny, it was more corrupt than anything we can imagine here.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 06:40 PM (xq1UY)

508 All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? Posted by: Reg at February 26, 2014 10:40 PM (bRL1M) Well regulated whore houses

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 06:40 PM (nzKvP)

509 Our Tammy just got a threadwinner for, perhaps, all time. I can't imagine what would one-up that comment. Apparently, however, I am one of the few who decided it would be churlish and unnecessary to comment on it.

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:41 PM (8lmkt)

510 404 Corn is delish. One of the few vegetables I like. Why fuck with it? I just don't get that . . . Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 10:21 PM -------------------------------------------------------------- A southerner can correct me if I'm wrong. (and that's almost certainly true) I've always thought that "grits" was one way to make "field corn" palatable. Field corn being what is normally fed to iivestock, while sweet corn is the table-fare we are familiar with.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 06:41 PM (DtNNC)

511 So, two places in Charleston, two in Mt. Pleasant, and only one in Savannah?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 06:41 PM (T1005)

512 At this point I'm convinced that Eric Holder could take a bribe and do a line of coke off of an under-aged hooker on live TV and nothing could be done about it.

Oh, we'd figure something out.

Posted by: The Nobel Peace Prize Committee at February 26, 2014 06:41 PM (Dwehj)

513 You're nothing without me, Marty. Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 10:40 PM (k8m83) You wonder ever if you're a bad man?

Posted by: Martin Hart at February 26, 2014 06:41 PM (bRL1M)

514 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 10:40 PM (Pfvig)

Low humidity is a bitch. And this winter has been cold, with no moisture in the air.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:42 PM (QFxY5)

515 Nice the NYT hit that nail on the head huh?

Posted by: Regular Guy at February 26, 2014 06:42 PM (N3Al8)

516 Holy Dinah, early ONT! I applied for graduation today.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 26, 2014 06:42 PM (N/cFh)

517 508 All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? They came up with the words anus and vagina, which make me giggle every time.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 06:42 PM (k8m83)

518 My kids love biscuits with butter and honey. I cheat and make homemade cream biscuits. Simple, from scratch, & delicious.

Posted by: lindafell at February 26, 2014 06:42 PM (PGO8C)

519 I thought I remembered seeing you were from this area, but I couldn't remember where exactly. I've never heard that reference, but I've only been here since 2010. What's it mean?

Etobicoke.

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:42 PM (doBIb)

520 Coincidentally, I had a conversation with someone today about how to pronounce Toronto: whether it's TOR-on-to, Tor-on_TO, or Trawna. Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 10:35 PM (MpP9p) That right there is funny.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:43 PM (hjKMO)

521 garrett, too funny!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:43 PM (Pfvig)

522 Our Tammy just got a threadwinner for, perhaps, all time. I can't imagine what would one-up that comment. Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 10:41 PM (8lmkt) Tammy: The woman, the myth, the legend.

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:43 PM (MpP9p)

523 They are now showing the model apt at that building. Egad. It's something to behold. It's $19M

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 06:43 PM (DmNpO)

524 513 No, I don't wonder, Marty. The world needs bad men. We keep the other bad men from the door.

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 06:43 PM (k8m83)

525 I applied for graduation today.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 26, 2014 10:42 PM (N/cFh)

Congrats Gingy!

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:44 PM (doBIb)

526 They came up with the words anus and vagina, which make me giggle every time.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 10:42 PM (k8m83)

And cloaca, an amalgam of anus and vagina!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:44 PM (QFxY5)

527 an eye for pretty vimen wanted to go to UNC. What a sweet thing to say, thank you! ( Hey I went for a year, does that count?)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:44 PM (Pfvig)

528 Etobicoke. Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 10:42 PM (doBIb) Wow, the answer was that obvious, huh? Shit.

Rob Ford says hi. He nutted himself on a fire hydrant after the gold medal game on Sunday.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:44 PM (hjKMO)

529 that nazi 1911 is a handsome gun, as are all 1911s.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 06:44 PM (rDidD)

530 524 513 No, I don't wonder, Marty. The world needs bad men. We keep the other bad men from the door. Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 10:43 PM (k8m83) There's all kinds of ghettos in the world.

Posted by: Martin Hart at February 26, 2014 06:44 PM (bRL1M)

531 Rob Ford says hi. He nutted himself on a fire hydrant after the gold medal game on Sunday.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 10:44 PM (hjKMO)

Rob Ford has got to be Chris Farley reincarnated.

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:45 PM (doBIb)

532 516 Holy Dinah, early ONT!

I applied for graduation today. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 26, 2014 10:42 PM (N/cFh) Hide posts from (N/cFh)

Yay, Gingy!

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 06:45 PM (T1005)

533 an eye for pretty vimen wanted to go to UNC. What a sweet thing to say, thank you! ( Hey I went for a year, does that count?) Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 10:44 PM (Pfvig) Sure, especially if you have red hair

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 06:45 PM (nzKvP)

534 Rob Ford says hi. He nutted himself on a fire hydrant after the gold medal game on Sunday. Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 10:44 PM (hjKMO) Did you see the video of him jumping up and down after the Canadian women tied the game late in the 3rd period against the US?

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:45 PM (MpP9p)

535 Congrats Gingy!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:45 PM (4Mv1T)

536 "US AG Eric Holder: New Policy - You Don' Have to Enforce or Defend Laws You Don't Like"

If anyone had any balls to throw it in his crooked face, they should say, I don't like any of the civil rights laws so fuck them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 26, 2014 06:46 PM (FE/sZ)

537 You guys have read some very wicked historians, is all. You can learn from Rome. You should never want to be like them. When it was new and shiny, it was more corrupt than anything we can imagine here.

Posted by: Stringer Davis

What's it like to be so smart?

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 06:46 PM (xrX4n)

538 They came up with the words anus and vagina, which make me giggle every time. Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 10:42 PM (k8m83) --Don't forget cloaca (which referred to their sewers).

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:46 PM (X3GkB)

539 530 It's all one ghetto, man. A giant gutter in outer space.

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 06:46 PM (k8m83)

540 Did you see the video of him jumping up and down after the Canadian women tied the game late in the 3rd period against the US? Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 10:45 PM (MpP9p) Saw no, but we had some minor earthquakes down here in Jersey

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 06:46 PM (nzKvP)

541 Congrats, Gingy!

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:46 PM (MpP9p)

542 Romans also came up with 'fornicate'.

heh

Posted by: EC at February 26, 2014 06:47 PM (doBIb)

543

Congrats Gingy!

Mrs. Crank has taken up crochet, and apparently knitting is on her to-do list as well.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 06:47 PM (sQ0LB)

544 How does one 'nut' oneself?

Posted by: Piers Morgan at February 26, 2014 06:47 PM (Dwehj)

545 Did you see the video of him jumping up and down after the Canadian women tied the game late in the 3rd period against the US? Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 10:45 PM (MpP9p) Everything that man does is lede material in this town. Hard to miss.

He's a true freak of nature.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:47 PM (hjKMO)

546 Congrats Gingy!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 06:47 PM (DmNpO)

547 Congrats Gingy! 😃🎉🎉🎉 Whatcha gonna do with it?

Posted by: lindafell at February 26, 2014 06:47 PM (PGO8C)

548 For $1000, who can tell me what the literal translation of 'vagina' is?

Posted by: Alex Trebek at February 26, 2014 06:47 PM (k8m83)

549 503 --I think you're seeing *my* point as well. I'm not worshiping Rome or Romans. I am suggesting them as a useful measuring stick for history, whether for weal or for woe. You're just focusing more on the latter, is all. Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 10:38 PM (X3GkB) All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? Posted by: Reg at February 26, 2014 10:40 PM ------------------------------------------------------- I KNEW there was something funny in the back of my mind waiting to be said. Thank you.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 06:48 PM (DtNNC)

550 Grits were poverty food to the old timers. Sherman's army took everything else, they didn't think grits were edible. Grandma made our hominy by soaking corn in lye water and hanging a sack of it to swell up.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at February 26, 2014 06:48 PM (HGIxv)

551 I've always thought that "grits" was one way to make "field corn" palatable. Field corn being what is normally fed to iivestock, while sweet corn is the table-fare we are familiar with. Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 10:41 PM (DtNNC) Nonsense. You fries up your field corn (white corn) in bacon grease and thus attain nirvana. Drying it up and grinding it up into grits, then soaking it to vomit form is a travesty.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:48 PM (Pfvig)

552 Posted by: Alex Trebek at February 26, 2014 10:47 PM (k8m83)

Heh.

Somebody took high school Latin!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 26, 2014 06:48 PM (QFxY5)

553 Bejeezus. A two-ton bathtub carved from a single hunk of Italian marble

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 06:49 PM (DmNpO)

554 For $1000, who can tell me what the literal translation of 'vagina' is? Posted by: Alex Trebek
---------------------------

Cooter

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:49 PM (4Mv1T)

555 http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/02/24/ rob-ford-runs-groin-first-into-fire-hydrant-while-celebrating-canadas-gold-medal/

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:49 PM (hjKMO)

556 548 For $1000, who can tell me what the literal translation of 'vagina' is? Posted by: Alex Trebek at February 26, 2014 10:47 PM (k8m83) [Hits buzzer]

Posted by: Sandy Flook at February 26, 2014 06:49 PM (X3GkB)

557 Vagina: muff hankie.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 06:50 PM (Q8vlx)

558 Sure, especially if you have red hair Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 10:45 PM (nzKvP) Oh I do, I do!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:50 PM (Pfvig)

559 Falkor the Luckdragon? (from the sidebar)? No way I'm clicking through. I'm also not clicking through on the so-called Java update that's from "the hard drive on my PC". I've fallen for that trick before. "Fool me once..." and all that siht. g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 06:50 PM (JMmQ9)

560 Can you see Texas up there on your high horse? What do you know about these people?

Posted by: Martin Hart at February 26, 2014 06:50 PM (bRL1M)

561 548 For $1000, who can tell me what the literal translation of 'vagina' is? What is a sheath, Alex?

Posted by: Ken Jennings at February 26, 2014 06:51 PM (k8m83)

562 How does one 'nut' oneself? Posted by: Piers Morgan at February 26, 2014 10:47 PM (Dwehj) Well, Piers . . . first, have a penis . . .

Posted by: filbert at February 26, 2014 06:51 PM (roTS7)

563 555 http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/02/24/ rob-ford-runs-groin-first-into-fire-hydrant-while-celebrating-canadas-gold-medal/ Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 10:49 PM (hjKMO) --Still not as funny as him crashing into the cameraman and cursing. That was like a deleted scene from Trailer Park Boys.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:51 PM (X3GkB)

564 Biscuits are made with lard. Collards with Balsamic Vinegar is very good

Posted by: tmitsss at February 26, 2014 06:51 PM (Pa9vP)

565 Map of every state's favorite band -- http://tinyurl.com/nujqo99 (linked from HA).

So, for musical taste....I should move to Delaware??? WTF???

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 06:51 PM (T1005)

566 I think pixy is eating my comments, so let me reiterate: Congrats, Gingy!

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 06:52 PM (Ntnpb)

567 Jimmy Kimmel had a pretty funny video of the Rob Ford gold medal jumping.

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:52 PM (hjKMO)

568 Russia ordered 150,000 troops to test their combat readiness Wednesday in a show of force that prompted a blunt warning from the United States that any military intervention in Ukraine would be a "grave mistake." And then we promptly show the Ruskies we mean business by gutting our Military? Hey are these guys in the obama admin smart or what? Putin must be laughing so hard he is peeing himself

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 26, 2014 06:52 PM (nzKvP)

569 562 How does one 'nut' oneself? Check out Alexandra D'addario's scene in True Detective.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 06:52 PM (k8m83)

570 Yes, Gingy, congratulations! You are teh awesome!!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:52 PM (8lmkt)

571 So, for musical taste....I should move to Delaware??? WTF??? Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:51 PM (T1005) or Canada

Posted by: MikeH at February 26, 2014 06:53 PM (bRL1M)

572 - "Nonsense. You fries up your field corn (white corn) in bacon grease and thus attain nirvana. - ------------------------------ Ok. I may not know much, but our field corn has always been yellow, and there are many varieties of white sweet corn.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 06:53 PM (DtNNC)

573 For $1000, who can tell me what the literal translation of 'vagina' is? Posted by: Alex Trebek What is "The sweet smell of success", Alex?

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 06:53 PM (JMmQ9)

574 Rationality is like math, and depending on what values you plug in, you'll get different results. Morality is the values you plug in.

So, ya. The problem isn't that their math was off; the problem is that their values were wrong.

Posted by: JohnJ at February 26, 2014 06:53 PM (Z1Bf6)

575 Congratulations, Gingy!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:53 PM (Pfvig)

576 393 UNC and NCState are in overtime. Die, Tarheels, die! Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 10:19 PM (dfYL9) I thought the only place that plays basketball in the ACC this year is Charlottesville?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac and Proud Virginian at February 26, 2014 06:54 PM (HxSXm)

577 "560 Can you see Texas up there on your high horse? What do you know about these people?" What do you mean "these people"?

Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2014 06:54 PM (hFL/3)

578 All the cow corn I've seen is yellow. And, oddly, I've seen a bit of it. Unlike people corn, you cannot go out and tear an ear off the stalk and eat it right there in the field. Not and be happy.

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:54 PM (8lmkt)

579 --Still not as funny as him crashing into the cameraman and cursing. That was like a deleted scene from Trailer Park Boys. Yeah, that's hilarious. We had a guy retire at work. One of his parting gifts was a t-shirt with a picture of Rob Ford's head. On the back, it says: "I get plenty to eat at home."

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:54 PM (hjKMO)

580 from the dusty mesa, a looming shadow grows, hidden in the branches of the poison creosote...

Posted by: T.D. Theme Song Intro at February 26, 2014 06:54 PM (AwcHw)

581 For $1000, who can tell me what the literal translation of 'vagina' is? Posted by: Alex Trebek "Expensive"

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 06:54 PM (GEICT)

582 I'll take Yucky for $50, Alex.

Posted by: Michael Sam at February 26, 2014 06:54 PM (Dwehj)

583 Vagina translates literally as 'Pork Scabbard'.

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 06:55 PM (wosEo)

584 Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 10:53 PM (DtNNC) No doubt! I was just going by the livestock comment. We always fed our cows and horses and probably the hogs white corn. I love fried white corn better than just about anything.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:55 PM (Pfvig)

585 And I am having difficulties with the propane oven and baking in general. It seems like it's too hot, somehow, like things bake more quickly, even at reduced temps. -- Tammy you should get an oven thermometer that you can put in the oven to give you the actual temperature. Just one of the cheap kinds will do the job.

Posted by: votermom at February 26, 2014 06:56 PM (e3Scu)

586 Whoever it was last week who suggested starting out with "Cold Shot" in order to get a handle on SRV -- thank you!!!

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 06:56 PM (m0h0I)

587 Rob Ford and the city council celebrate the tie in the women's hockey game (sorry for the ad beforehand): http://tinyurl.com/kln7jjv

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 06:56 PM (MpP9p)

588 No Sean Connery jokes yet?

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 06:56 PM (Ntnpb)

589 565 Map of every state's favorite band -- http://tinyurl.com/nujqo99 (linked from HA). So, for musical taste....I should move to Delaware??? WTF??? Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:51 PM (T1005) --I do not know who a lot of those acts are, but it's funny that at least at a glance Maine seems to be the only state with a no-longer existing band as their #1.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 06:56 PM (X3GkB)

590 I love fried white corn better than just about anything.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 10:55 PM (Pfvig)

wait, what??? that sounds amazing . . . now I feel all disadvantaged and shit. barky, help me, help me, I need some fried white corn!!

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:56 PM (8lmkt)

591 I saw Cow Corn open for Pure Prairie League back in '76.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at February 26, 2014 06:56 PM (Dwehj)

592
Subway sucks. That is all.

Yep tasty sammichs, like tasty biscuits gravy require a good bread...Subway seriously lacks in this dept

Posted by: bill-o at February 26, 2014 09:17 PM (bjND7)

Subway = Hand Salad

'sup jackwagons

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 26, 2014 06:57 PM (aYjRw)

593 I'll have the Pork Scabbard, over easy.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:57 PM (4Mv1T)

594 560 Can you see Texas up there on your high horse? What do you know about these people? Just observation and deduction, Marty. It's safe to say nobody here's gonna be splitting the atom.

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 06:57 PM (k8m83)

595 What do you mean "these people"? Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2014 10:54 PM (hFL/3) I think human consciousness, is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself, we are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self; an accretion of sensory, experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody is nobody. Maybe the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.

Posted by: Rust at February 26, 2014 06:57 PM (bRL1M)

596 "Vagina" is latin for "Where the teeth are"

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 06:57 PM (lr3d7)

597 For $1000, who can tell me what the literal translation of 'vagina' is? Posted by: Alex Trebek EOJ settled this; Ham Wallet.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 06:57 PM (xrX4n)

598 Peaches, we grew our own feed and I'm guessing the white was cheaper? Once upon a time you could find white corn in a can, but I haven't seen it in a coon's age.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 06:57 PM (Pfvig)

599 Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 10:56 PM (m0h0I)

I'm particularly fond of the Texas Flood album.

Posted by: Iasonas at February 26, 2014 06:58 PM (FHNkr)

600 Once upon a time you could find white corn in a can, but I haven't seen it in a coon's age. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 10:57 PM (Pfvig) Racist

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 06:58 PM (GEICT)

601 What kind of a sicko sadist puts up a link to a page with nothing but a truck load of links to pages and pages of French fries?! That is just plain mean!

Posted by: and irresolute at February 26, 2014 06:59 PM (RqHWH)

602 Vagina means "bane of man." I thought everyone knew this?

Posted by: grognard at February 26, 2014 06:59 PM (hjKMO)

603 - 583 Vagina translates literally as 'Pork Scabbard'. Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 10:55 PM -------------------------- You might be wrong, there. Not sure where I get this from, but I'm pretty sure it's got something to do with San Diego.

Posted by: Ron B. at February 26, 2014 06:59 PM (DtNNC)

604 I'm particularly fond of the Texas Flood album.
Posted by: Iasonas
-------------------------

Indeed.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 06:59 PM (4Mv1T)

605 Map of every state's favorite band -- http://tinyurl.com/nujqo99Â __________ I haven't even looked yet, but if Virginia says Dave Matthews, I'm calling "bullshit" on the other 56 states.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 06:59 PM (Ntnpb)

606 595 I think human consciousness, is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself, we are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self; an accretion of sensory, experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody is nobody. Maybe the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal. Well that sounds God-fucking-awful, Rust.

Posted by: Martin Hart at February 26, 2014 06:59 PM (k8m83)

607 I have a really funny PPL story, but it will have to wait for another occasion. Because, Survivor is starting in one minute, so excited. Hopefully, that asshole Boston Rob won't be on it, again (sorry, ace, not that you're actually reading this).

Posted by: Peaches at February 26, 2014 06:59 PM (8lmkt)

608 Ham wallet

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 26, 2014 06:59 PM (BAS5M)

609 589 565 Map of every state's favorite band -- http://tinyurl.com/nujqo99 (linked from HA).

So, for musical taste....I should move to Delaware??? WTF???
Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:51 PM (T1005)

--I do not know who a lot of those acts are, but it's funny that at least at a glance Maine seems to be the only state with a no-longer existing band as their #1. Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 10:56 PM (X3GkB) Hide posts from (X3GkB)

That whole region -- Nirvana, the Dead, and Phish are all kaput as well.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 07:00 PM (T1005)

610 576 I thought the only place that plays basketball in the ACC this year is Charlottesville? Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac and Proud Virginian at February 26, 2014 10:54 PM (HxSXm) --------------------------------------- Shhh! We do not speak about it. Fear of the jinx. Wahoo-wah!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 07:00 PM (dfYL9)

611 You can fry yaller corn, too, but my preference for fried is the white. Bacon grease is the key. Butter is okay, but bacon grease will make you see God. Not too much, and good and hot. You're not aiming to get it crispy, just flavored. May take some practice.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:01 PM (Pfvig)

612 604 I'm particularly fond of the Texas Flood album. Posted by: Iasonas ------------------------- Indeed. Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 10:59 PM (4Mv1T) My favorite song - "Wall of Denial"

Posted by: MikeH at February 26, 2014 07:02 PM (bRL1M)

613 I can't say the job made me this way. More like me being this way made me right for the job.

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 07:02 PM (k8m83)

614 605 Map of every state's favorite band -- http://tinyurl.com/nujqo99
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I haven't even looked yet, but if Virginia says Dave Matthews, I'm calling "bullshit" on the other 56 states. Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 10:59 PM (Ntnpb) Hide posts from (Ntnpb)

Right in one, chi.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 07:02 PM (T1005)

615 Texas Flood is an incredible album. I get to hear it a lot on the jukebox at work. It's one of the perks of working in a dive bar.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 07:03 PM (m0h0I)

616 I dont know why the comparison between freeing Gitmo detainees and freeing the leader of the Beer Hall Putsch, did not occur earlier. The parallel does not bode well for our future with released terrorists. ---------------------------------- "evil quite often is completely rational. Which should tell you that being rational and being moral are two completely different qualities" ------- This a fantastic discussion topic. I'd love to see a thread devoted to debate it when I'm actually awake. But since I always end up being away whenever my favorite debates pop up, I'm going to make a incoherent hash of remarking anyway. ---- His line of logic provides a good explanation for actions of many violent dictators. When humans determine the most effective steps towards reaching an extremely difficult goal; their choice of actions can alter dramatically without a moral or ethical code eliminating options. If it all boils down to reaching point B from A, the ruthlessness plan succeeds, or at least temporarily. Ethical, intelligent individuals have awareness how evil actions have allowed immoral people to gain power, wealth and desired objectives. They had the option to choose advancing their goals by such means as well. Whether their choice was based on feelings of guilt, love, cultural conditioning or religious influences; limited choices shaped the end result, and not awareness of shortcuts. It is small wonder that power so easily corrupts people lacking strong ethical and moral influence. More so, when convinced and blinded by self- righteousness that the end justifies the means. Logic says to stop those evil people from harming our country, one must eliminate them.. Thus, the genocides begin. Such an easy slide into contemplating great evil for the purpose of accomplishing great good. And reason dictates how to do it efficiently.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at February 26, 2014 07:03 PM (OU1Hh)

617 Billet du Jamon

Posted by: en Francis at February 26, 2014 07:03 PM (wosEo)

618 I saw God once, listening to Grand Funk. Might have been a chemical involved, can't remember.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:03 PM (Q8vlx)

619 the sanitation: "Cloaca" is their word for sewer. They flushed raw ordure into Ostia, via the river. And they dropped like flies from the infections that caused.

the medicine: their doctors were all Greeks

education: they studied Greek, mostly. Their greatest mathematical breakthrough was an arithmetic approximation of pi, to bill for private water pipes. Tutoring by slaves, Greek slaves, no public schools or widespread teaching, rich fucks only.

wine: They sure as hell did not invent wine. Try garum.

public order: Now you have hit on something. They were the very bitch for public order, as long as their foot was on your neck. In their actual city, you traveled with guards if you could afford it. What the hell movies are you seeing?

irrigation: Again, invented in Mesopotamia, and every other culture in the world was practicing it. Used the best ideas they found, didn't invent anything new, and it was all human powered.

roads: Reserved for the rich, and the legions. Well-made; high maintenance. Germany had excellent railroads, necessary for the Schlieffen Plan. Same deal.

the fresh-water system: Pretty good aqueducts, mostly needed due to poor siting of their cities. Easily disrupted, as they found out, and "fresh," not "pure."

and public health: here, you have got to be shitting me. They lost over half their population in just one epidemic, and then really got going. Place was a deathtrap.

Look, I'm an old classicist. I'm all for studying the Romans, and in their own tongue, too. But get your nose out of their Mafia ass. They were not gods, or even very exemplary men.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 07:04 PM (xq1UY)

620 What do you mean "these people"? Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2014 10:54 PM (hFL/3) What do you mean "these people"?

Posted by: Kirk Lazarus at February 26, 2014 07:04 PM (HxSXm)

621 new york really sucks balls

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 07:04 PM (rDidD)

622 votermom, I do have a thermometer, and it tells me the oven is possessed.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:04 PM (Pfvig)

623 618 I saw God once, listening to Grand Funk. Might have been a chemical involved, can't remember. Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 11:03 PM (Q8vlx) Probably just looking in the mirror and saw the reflection of a dog

Posted by: MikeH at February 26, 2014 07:05 PM (bRL1M)

624 Bacon grease is the key. Butter is okay, but bacon grease will make you see God. Not too much, and good and hot. You're not aiming to get it crispy, just flavored. May take some practice. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 11:01 PM ---------------------------------------- Good lord woman. I'm on a diet. Stop that. It sounds too good.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 07:05 PM (DtNNC)

625 Why do you keep staying there, yankeefifth? I suppose the Mrs likes the shopping?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:05 PM (Pfvig)

626 In light of the theme of tonite, New York sucks bowling balls. Come back Rudi.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:06 PM (Q8vlx)

627 621 new york really sucks balls Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 11:04 PM (rDidD) Is that a review of services provided?

Posted by: MikeH at February 26, 2014 07:06 PM (bRL1M)

628 I used to think about it more, but you reach a certain age you know who you are. Now I live in a little room, out in the country behind a bar, work four nights a week. In between I drink. And there ain't nobody there to stop me. I know who I am. And after all these years, there's a victory in that.

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 07:07 PM (k8m83)

629 Here I thought I was the only one who ever listened to Grand Funk (Railroad).

Even saw them live.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 07:07 PM (4Mv1T)

630 Mike H could be now that I think about it.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:07 PM (Q8vlx)

631 595 I think human consciousness, is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself, we are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self; an accretion of sensory, experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody is nobody. Maybe the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal. ======== It's only idiots that deify an ideal Nature that think we are not part of nature ourselves. They themselves cut them self off from nature with their indulgent philosophical hairshirting.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at February 26, 2014 07:07 PM (Em6d4)

632 618 I saw God once, listening to Grand Funk. Might have been a chemical involved, can't remember. Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 11:03 PM (Q8vlx) --The lead singer of the '90s Belgian industrial rock band Mussolini Headkick went by the stage name "God."

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 07:07 PM (X3GkB)

633 That map does not show a States favorite band, but says something like most distinctive. Doesn't say how they determine that.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 07:08 PM (4+AaH)

634 ir, it IS good. And corn is of course high in calories, but you should get to subtract some bad factor because...fiber.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:08 PM (Pfvig)

635 Tobacco: Love Grand Funk.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:08 PM (Q8vlx)

636 629 Here I thought I was the only one who ever listened to Grand Funk (Railroad). Even saw them live. Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 11:07 PM (4Mv1T) Listened? Try playing bass to "I'm Your Captain" for an entire afternoon

Posted by: MikeH at February 26, 2014 07:08 PM (bRL1M)

637 But get your nose out of their Mafia ass. They were not gods, or even very exemplary men. Posted by: Stringer Davis not gods nobody said that but excellent editors of other cultures best

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 07:08 PM (zOTsN)

638 Shhh! We do not speak about it. Fear of the jinx. Wahoo-wah! Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 11:00 PM (dfYL9) I know. They would be doing better if they weren't jobbed by the Carolina refs down in Durham.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 26, 2014 07:09 PM (HxSXm)

639 Yeah, regarding that "favorite band by state" map -- Kentucky = Fall Out Boy?

I do not get that at all. At. All.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 07:09 PM (m0h0I)

640 - Look, I'm an old classicist. I'm all for studying the Romans, and in their own tongue, too. But get your nose out of their Mafia ass. They were not gods, or even very exemplary men. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 11:04 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dude, I've never seen ANYONE who thought they were.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 07:10 PM (DtNNC)

641 Where else on the interwebz are ya gonna get philosophical hairshirting, nutting on fire hydrants, fried corn and Grand Funk all in one thread?? Nowhere, that's where. Y'all are the best.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:10 PM (Pfvig)

642 Map of every state's favorite band -- http://tinyurl.com/nujqo99 *** Rick Ross? RUFKM?!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 07:11 PM (DmNpO)

643 Again, it isn't favorite band. I don't see why everyone is saying that.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 07:11 PM (4+AaH)

644 I used to listen to Grand Funk all the time.

"Daht'n-do-dah-dah-dot'n-dah-dah! Daht'n-do-dah-dah-n-dow-dow!"

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 07:11 PM (m0h0I)

645
I saw Saw Them Live open for Roxy Music at Live Aid.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 26, 2014 07:15 PM (aYjRw)

646 Look, I'm an old classicist. I'm all for studying the Romans, and in their own tongue, too. But get your nose out of their Mafia ass. They were not gods, or even very exemplary men. Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 11:04 PM (xq1UY) --Have you watched the TV series Rome? While it took artistic liberties with some of the historical events, it was pretty painstaking in portraying the grit and grime of life for the plebes. (David Milch wanted to do a crime series based in ancient Rome, but Rome the series beat him to it so he made Deadwood instead.) I'm glad I bought the DVDs, because the "When in Rome" feature is very educational.

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 07:15 PM (X3GkB)

647 Y'all are the best. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 11:10 PM (Pfvig) You forgot the swallowing by certain Ettes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 07:15 PM (GEICT)

648 Logprof: whoa damn that is one weird dude.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:15 PM (Q8vlx)

649 "Daht'n-do-dah-dah-dot'n-dah-dah! Daht'n-do-dah-dah-n-dow-dow!" Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 11:11 PM (m0h0I) Hey, we got a gig at Jim's Service Station & Sushi Bar - you available Friday?

Posted by: Grand Funk Railroad at February 26, 2014 07:15 PM (bRL1M)

650 "Daht'n-do-dah-dah-dot'n-dah-dah! Daht'n-do-dah-dah-n-dow-dow!" Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 11:11 PM (m0h0I) Hey, we got a gig at Jim's Service Station & Sushi Bar - you available Friday?

Posted by: Grand Funk Railroad at February 26, 2014 07:15 PM (bRL1M)

651 Holy crap! That was the Guess Who!

[hair shirt]

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 07:15 PM (m0h0I)

652 Geeze. How many times does this make it that the Heels have sent The Pack packing? Something like a bazillion, isn't it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:15 PM (aDwsi)

653 Again, it isn't favorite band. I don't see why everyone is saying that. *** Because that's what the title of the article says.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 07:16 PM (DmNpO)

654 Don't order pepperoni on your Pizza Hut pissa. http://tinyurl.com/q44nj5r

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at February 26, 2014 07:17 PM (HxSXm)

655 622 votermom, I do have a thermometer, and it tells me the oven is possessed. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 11:04 PM (Pfvig) -- Loose thermostat maybe.

Posted by: votermom at February 26, 2014 07:17 PM (BMbKM)

656 TR - You know who Miguel is?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:17 PM (aDwsi)

657 TR - You know who Miguel is? Posted by: Mike Hammer
-----------------------------------------

No sir.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 07:18 PM (4Mv1T)

658 Why do you keep staying there, yankeefifth? I suppose the Mrs likes the shopping? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February every time I think I am out the pull me back in. fuckers.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 07:19 PM (rDidD)

659 Y'all are the best. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 11:10 PM (Pfvig) and you have been hiding away from us why?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (rDidD)

660 Thanks y'all. Crank, send her to knittinghelp.com. I'm available over Skype for help, too.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (N/cFh)

661 Y'all are the best. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 11:10 PM (Pfvig) and you have been hiding away from us why?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (rDidD)

662 Wow! Just saw video on local news of some punk beating the stuffing out of a bus driver in Washington, I think. If only the driver had a gun, that punk would be getting sanctified by Jesse and Reverend Al right now.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (k8m83)

663 rust git some bed, take some barbituls.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (AwcHw)

664 Y'all are the best. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 11:10 PM (Pfvig) and you have been hiding away from us why?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (rDidD)

665 rust git some bed, take some barbituls.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (AwcHw)

666 rust git some bed, take some barbituls.

Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (AwcHw)

667 @NDH I know but I don't know why they are saying that. The map is actually labelled distinctive artists. The description is something listened to more in a particular state than any other, but not that is the most popular artist in that state.

Posted by: blaster at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (4+AaH)

668 The Google Buses were using public bus stops free of charge, holding up city buses that fare paying passengers need to use. They're also leviathans that clog car traffic on San Francisco's narrower streets

Posted by: kbdabear at February 26, 2014 09:26 PM (aTXUx)

They're buses, it's what they do. What, as if the city buses don't? But yea, like you said, Blue on Blue, hahahaha.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (IPz9m)

669 I do not get that at all. At. All. Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 11:09 PM (m0h0I) That's because it's ALL LIES. Everyone knows the Headhunters are every Kentuckians favorite band. If we're not counting Bill and the Boys. Maybe they mean best selling bands.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (Pfvig)

670 Weft Cut Loop! May your chains rest lightly!
You apparently think you're somehow smarter for saying that we should be Rome.
That's pitiable, little dude.

All I know about Roman morals is what I picked up from Cicero, Sallust, and Plutarch. I'd point out that Christianity took a rather dim view of them too, for most of history, but you're just flailing now and I don't think you're fully capable of absorbing that. So, another time.

I didn't start out thinking I was smarter than you, but you've about made the case. Once more, I am accusing you of repeating what you've heard, without giving it a lot of thought. And you're a big Oswald Spengler fan, too, aren't you.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (xq1UY)

671 but excellent editors of other cultures best Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 11:08 PM ------------------------------------------------ To be fair, the Romans gathered other cultures together in a pile... and then promptly had a dirty dirty orgy on them. ...so they're not all bad.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 07:21 PM (DtNNC)

672 15 Hey, I heard that they have a new drug that combines Viagra with Ex-lax. It's called "Easy come, Easy go.

early thread winner

Posted by: jimmytheclaw at February 26, 2014 07:22 PM (SmC4z)

673 No sir. Posted by: Tobacco Road -------------- Well, if you don't know, and I don't know, how the hell can they be NC's favorite band?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:23 PM (aDwsi)

674 Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 11:04 PM (xq1UY)

It was a joke. The guy was quoting Monty Python's Life of Brian.

REG: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers.

LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers.

REG: Yeah.

LORETTA: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers.

REG: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?!

XERXES: The aqueduct?

REG: What?

XERXES: The aqueduct.

REG: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah.

COMMANDO #3: And the sanitation.

LORETTA: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like?

REG: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done.

MATTHIAS: And the roads.

REG: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads--

COMMANDO: Irrigation.

XERXES: Medicine.

COMMANDOS: Huh? Heh? Huh...

COMMANDO #2: Education.

COMMANDOS: Ohh...

REG: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough.

COMMANDO #1: And the wine.

COMMANDOS: Oh, yes. Yeah...

FRANCIS: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the Romans left. Huh.

COMMANDO: Public baths.

LORETTA: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg.

FRANCIS: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this.

COMMANDOS: Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.

REG: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?

XERXES: Brought peace.

REG: Oh. Peace? Shut up!

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2014 07:23 PM (bN3zc)

675 Oh man...Paco de Lucia died. Loved him.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:23 PM (Pfvig)

676 For the Stevie Rays fans - try to get your hand on his MTV Unplugged set. Good acoustic stuff. Might even be on YouTube? also, there are a few DVDs. I have Live attempting the El Mocambo, Live in Austin, TX, Live at Montraeux. Yeah, I'm a little bit of a fan...

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 07:24 PM (ICgzA)

677 Gingy, thanks! I know she's been using some videos for help, not sure if YouTube or elsewhere.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 07:24 PM (sQ0LB)

678 having spent some of my "formative years" in the Flint, Michigan area, I saw Grand Funk Railroad open for Grand Funk Railroad at The Miketam back in '78

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 07:24 PM (JMmQ9)

679 Kentucky headhunters, now we are talkin .

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:24 PM (Q8vlx)

680 No sir.

Posted by: Tobacco Road
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Well, if you don't know, and I don't know, how the hell can they be NC's favorite band? Posted by: Mike Hammer
--------------------------------

I googled him. Looks like some sorta rapster.

Fork him.

I last listened to new music in 1989. Besides Santana's comeback

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 07:25 PM (4Mv1T)

681 I didn't start out thinking I was smarter than you, but you've about made the case. Once more, I am accusing you of repeating what you've heard, without giving it a lot of thought. And you're a big Oswald Spengler fan, too, aren't you. Posted by: Stringer Davis I bet all the ladies like it when you talk dirty.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 07:25 PM (xrX4n)

682 Award Winning French Fry Recipes Including Sweet Potato Fries with Smoked Paprika Mayo: ------ Commie scum

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 07:25 PM (MtC8f)

683 I think human consciousness, is a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself, we are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self; an accretion of sensory, experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody is nobody. Maybe the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.

Posted by: Rust

I blame Oprah.

Posted by: puddleglum at February 26, 2014 07:26 PM (vC/TC)

684

Good Morning! I hope you don't mind I got up a little a early so I took the liberty of milking your cow for ya. Took a little while to get her warmed up She sure is a stubborn one, then POW all at once.

*drinks*

Posted by: "Brother Hezakiah" at February 26, 2014 07:26 PM (LI48c)

685 Commie scum Posted by: RWC ------------------ A phrase not used nearly as often as it ought to be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:27 PM (aDwsi)

686 Fortress Landsberg wiki. http://tinyurl.com/q9vzqgm Adolf's prison report is fascinating. http://tinyurl.com/kdw5jtm

Posted by: and irresolute at February 26, 2014 07:27 PM (RqHWH)

687 Spike Lee went on a seven-minute, profanity-laced tirade against the influx of white Â“hipstersÂ” into the cityÂ’s formerly poor neighborhoods during a Black History Month event on Tuesday. When an audience member at the Pratt Institute event asked the Â“Do the Right ThingÂ” director about the benefits of gentrification, Lee joked, Â“Let me just kill you right now.Â” Â“HereÂ’s the thing. I grew up in Fort Greene. I grew up here in New York. ItÂ’s changed. And why does it take an influx of white New Yorkers in the south Bronx, in Harlem, in Bed-Stuy, in Crown Heights for the facilities to get better?Â” Â“The garbage wasnÂ’t picked up every motherÂ—kinÂ’ day when I was living in 165 Washington Park. PS 20 was not good. PS II. Rothschild 294. The police werenÂ’t around,Â” he added. Lee, wearing a Â“Defend BrooklynÂ” hoodie, went on to denounce what he called Â“the motherÂ—kinÂ’ Christopher Columbus Syndrome.Â” Â“You canÂ’t just come in the neighborhood and start bogarting and say, like youÂ’re motherÂ—kinÂ’ Columbus and kill off the Native Americans,Â” he said. Â“There were brothers playing motherÂ—kinÂ’ African drums in Mount Morris Park for 40 years and now they canÂ’t do it anymore because the new inhabitants said the drums are loud.Â” He said Brooklyn hipsters objected when Michael Jackson died and fans wanted to have a party in his honor in the Fort Greene section. Â“And all of a sudden the white people in Fort Greene said, Â‘Wait a minute! We canÂ’t have black people having a party for Michael Jackson to celebrate his life. WhoÂ’s coming to the neighborhood? TheyÂ’re gonna leave lots of garbage.Â’ Â” Â“Garbage?Â” Lee added. Â“Have you seen Fort Greene Park in the morning? ItÂ’s like the motherÂ—kinÂ’ Westminster Dog Show. ThereÂ’s 20,000 dogs running around. Whoa. So we had to move it to Prospect Park.Â” He said the change in property values wasnÂ’t helping everyone. Â“What about the people who are renting? They canÂ’t afford it anymore! You canÂ’t afford itÂ” nypost

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 07:27 PM (zOTsN)

688 Commie Scum isn't that what is stuck on the rim of the toiletbowl?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:27 PM (Q8vlx)

689 I'm too pooped to pop. I'm out.

Keep a warm comfy spot in The Barrel for Seamus. He's gotta couple more hours of community service he owes in there.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 26, 2014 07:28 PM (4Mv1T)

690 663 rust git some bed, take some barbituls. Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 11:21 PM rust never sleeps

Posted by: Neil Young & Crazy Horse (what was DEVO) at February 26, 2014 07:28 PM (JMmQ9)

691 i did not say that three times

Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 07:28 PM (AwcHw)

692 The rent's too damn high!

Posted by: Spike Lee at February 26, 2014 07:29 PM (aDwsi)

693 688 Commie Scum isn't that what is stuck on the rim of the toiletbowl?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 11:27 PM (Q8vlx)

After Satan gives you the reach-around, yes.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 07:29 PM (sQ0LB)

694 @ 669 / 679 [Tammy / Chavez] -- We have them on the jukebox as well, obviously. I'll have to add them to the "songs-to-learn" list.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 07:29 PM (m0h0I)

695 Am I to understand that I, as one of the purity-police in good standing, have not just been one-upped, but have been nuked from space by the Anti Roman-establishment crowd?

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 07:29 PM (DtNNC)

696 656Â TR - You know who Miguel is? ___________ I'll bite... the dude that cuts your grass?

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 07:29 PM (ICgzA)

697 Spoiler Alert The Americans 69!

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 07:29 PM (MtC8f)

698 I saw Bolshevik open for Commie Scum, 1917, Moscow.

Posted by: Spike Lee at February 26, 2014 07:30 PM (aDwsi)

699 Crank: that is correct sir. Thanks.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:30 PM (Q8vlx)

700 690 663 rust git some bed, take some barbituls. Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 11:21 PM rust never sleeps Posted by: Neil Young & Crazy Horse (what was DEVO) at February 26, 2014 11:28 PM (JMmQ9) Coke spew!! OMG, that was too funny!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:31 PM (Pfvig)

701 Shit. Sock fail

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:31 PM (aDwsi)

702

That map is pretty screwed up, at least IMHO.

I'm in GA, never heard of "Future", although I do recall "Futureman", who was in Bela Fleck's band (the flecktones) 20 yrs. ago.

TR an MH, never heard of the NC one either....

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at February 26, 2014 07:31 PM (X3xYu)

703 Grits? Gah! I've accidentally ingested sawdust that tasted better. Look, if you must eat something that has all the character of an abandoned building's floor sweepings I suggest something like Cream Of Wheat or Malt-O-Meal. If you have the means.

Posted by: johnd01 at February 26, 2014 07:31 PM (r0+v0)

704 Somewhere along the line, I emptied my 9 into a crankhead for injecting his kid with crystal. Said he was trying to 'purify' her.

Posted by: Rust Cohle at February 26, 2014 07:32 PM (k8m83)

705 Author Scott McEwen Â— who collaborated with the late Chris Kyle in writing the book Â“American SniperÂ” Â— bumped into Jesse Ventura on a Mexican beach last week and begged the former pro wrestler to drop his libel case against KyleÂ’s widow. The best seller Â— subtitled Â“The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military HistoryÂ’Â’ Â— tells of a 2006 incident at a bar in Coronado, Calif., when Kyle allegedly interrupted VenturaÂ’s harangue against Navy SEALS, President George W. Bush and US military policy by punching him in the face. Ventura, the former governor of Minnesota, filed a suit claiming there was no punch. After Kyle was killed last year at a Texas gun range by a former Marine, Ventura replaced Kyle as defendant with his widow, Taya, the executor of his estate. Â“The murder trial in Texas is scheduled for May, the same time as the civil trial in Minnesota,Â” McEwen told me yesterday. Â“I feel sorry for her and the kids. ItÂ’s a difficult time for her.Â” McEwen recently ran into Ventura in Cabo San Lucas. Â“I think itÂ’s best if the nature of our conversation remains confidential,Â” McEwen said. Â“I am hoping he can be sensible so [Taya], and [Ventura], can both get on with their lives.Â” The San Diego-based McEwen was in New York to launch his latest book, Â“Eyes on Target,Â” a collection of stories about the Navy SEALs Â— including what happened in Benghazi, where a retired SEAL sniper with a small team held off 100 terrorists while his repeated radio calls for help were ignored.

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 07:33 PM (zOTsN)

706 Grits is good. Don't let nobody tell you no different.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 07:33 PM (m0h0I)

707 State Sen. Andriano Espaillat is announcing his second bid for Congress Thursday to dethrone longtime Harlem Rep. Charles Rangel. Espaillat, 59, the uptown senator from Inwood-Washington Heights, nearly upset Rangel during their initial face-off in the 2012 Democratic primary. Â“Adriano was an insurgent nobody thought could win two years ago. This time people think Adriano is going to win and they want to get behind a winner,Â” a source said. Espaillat is expected to line up support from leaders who backed Rangel in the past. rangel will lose this time

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 07:34 PM (zOTsN)

708 704 whaa?

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:34 PM (Q8vlx)

709 I said it last night... I understand where Spike is coming from. You don't even hear a NC twang in Chapel Hill anymore and these transplanted asshole liberal fucktards have just about destroyed the entire state. Plus, how you gonna call the cops on Bill Lee for doing his thing? Artists in general are night owls and musicians especially.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:34 PM (Pfvig)

710 I saw Bolshevik open for Commie Scum, 1917, Moscow. Posted by: Spike Lee at February 26, 2014 11:30 PM Funny, that. I saw RINO open for Commie Scum recently...

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 07:35 PM (JMmQ9)

711 708 704 whaa? True Detective

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 07:35 PM (k8m83)

712 How could it take you 5 minutes to cook your grits, when it takes the entire grit eating world 20 minutes?

Posted by: Vinny, attorney at law, sorta at February 26, 2014 07:35 PM (LI48c)

713 But I'm not looking for a lost golden age to worship.

You guys have read some very wicked historians, is all. You can learn from Rome. You should never want to be like them. When it was new and shiny, it was more corrupt than anything we can imagine here.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 26, 2014 10:40 PM (xq1UY)

What in the holy fat fuck are you talking about? We don't worship the Roman Empire, jeebus. It is you who have read some wicked historians, if that's your view of things.

Posted by: [/i][/b]KG at February 26, 2014 07:36 PM (IPz9m)

714 That's false advertising. Those aren't the Planet of the Apes rifles!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 26, 2014 07:36 PM (Eiwo7)

715 Where is the music map? Comments or the start of the ONT post?

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 07:36 PM (MtC8f)

716 I'll have to add them to the "songs-to-learn" list. Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 11:29 PM (m0h0I) You are forgiven for your grits-love and RINO status.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:37 PM (Pfvig)

717 Funny, that. I saw RINO open for Commie Scum recently... Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 11:35 PM --------------------------------------------------- RINO will open for anyone... and I mean that in the filthiest way possible.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 07:37 PM (DtNNC)

718 Paco De Lucia -- Almoraima Full album tinyurl.com/lwzb7mt

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 07:38 PM (xrX4n)

719 RWC #565

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 07:38 PM (ICgzA)

720 Comments and it's ALL LIES. Who the hell is Wiz Kalifa and how does he beat John Cash in Arkansas? Seriously. Ain't nobody in Arkansas named Kalifa. Not even in the Delta.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:39 PM (Pfvig)

721 Grits is good. Don't let nobody tell you no different. **** Lakeside yellow grits, boiled with garlic, onion, salt, and lots of black pepper then topped with sharp cheddar. Sometimes with a dollop of sour cream as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 07:40 PM (DmNpO)

722 Tammy : Transplanted asshole liberal fucktards. Just rols off the tongue if you listen close. Poetry. Thank You. Youhave won the intertubes for tonite.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:40 PM (Q8vlx)

723 Lakeside yellow grits, boiled with garlic, onion, salt, and lots of black pepper then topped with sharp cheddar. Sometimes with a dollop of sour cream as well. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 11:40 PM (DmNpO) Don't forget the shrimp!

Posted by: Thrawn at February 26, 2014 07:40 PM (WlWt+)

724 I use magic grits.

Posted by: soothie at February 26, 2014 07:41 PM (rTCJ6)

725 RINO will open for anyone... and I mean that in the filthiest way possible. Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 11:37 PM I agree with you, in the dirtiest, filthiest, way possible

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 07:42 PM (JMmQ9)

726 hey hey my my neil

Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2014 07:42 PM (AwcHw)

727 Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 11:40 PM (Q8vlx) Gracias, mi amigo. It has the ring of truth behind it, si?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:42 PM (Pfvig)

728 719 RWC #565 Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 11:38 PM (ICgzA) Thanks. Guess I have to look up this Dave Matthews fellow. Kidding. I don't see how he represents VA though.

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 07:42 PM (MtC8f)

729 Funny, that. I saw RINO open for Commie Scum recently... Posted by: AltonJackson --------------------- Communism never sleeps.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:43 PM (aDwsi)

730 Tammy al Thor the difference is those neighborhoods were shit hole slums before. Detriot-esque. This is the same as being nostalgic for the prostitutes and drug addicts harassing tourists in Times Square in the 70s

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 07:43 PM (zOTsN)

731 Ahh. Lived in Charlottesville.

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 07:44 PM (MtC8f)

732 Don't forget the shrimp! *** I love shrimp and grits but only eat it when I'm dining out. I don't like the shrimpy smell in the house.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 07:44 PM (DmNpO)

733 Tammy: i would say a gong, we are way past truth.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:44 PM (Q8vlx)

734 This is the same as being nostalgic for the prostitutes and drug addicts harassing tourists in Times Square in the 70s *** "character"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 07:44 PM (DmNpO)

735 I'm surprised that there has been no commentary on Jimmy Carter jetting off to Venezuela.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:45 PM (aDwsi)

736 Thrawn's prawns!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 26, 2014 07:45 PM (Eiwo7)

737 Okay, I'm an idjit. (I realize this is not news to any of you) I thought that map was about people from the state itself. But I know for a fact Eric Church ain't from Kansas. Nor his little dog Toto.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:45 PM (Pfvig)

738 If you do not smell salt air, do not order shrimp.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:45 PM (aDwsi)

739 Communism never sleeps. Posted by: Mike Hammer You will hear from our lawyers!

Posted by: Marxoleum [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 07:46 PM (xrX4n)

740 @ 721 [NDH] -- That sounds pretty fargin' good, right there!

I usually eat the plain white grits with a whole gang of butter and pepper on 'em -- same way I eat whole hominy.

Damn, I'm getting hungry. I have some instant grits, which'll do in a pinch, I reckon.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 07:46 PM (m0h0I)

741 Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 11:44 PM (Q8vlx) No lie.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:46 PM (Pfvig)

742 Kidding. I don't see how he represents VA though _____________ College band in Charlottesville back in the day. I saw him quite a few tim s when I lived in Richmond. I call bullshit on everything except maybe Texas and Jersey.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 07:46 PM (ICgzA)

743 Hammer For sure.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:46 PM (Q8vlx)

744 Dah FUQ. Florida Georgia Line is Ohios???

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 07:47 PM (MtC8f)

745 Communism never sleeps. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 11:43 PM ---------------------------------------- Ask it to inform comrade Stalin about your problem... of course then it will solve your problem... and you. So, yes, it does not sleep.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 07:48 PM (DtNNC)

746 I don't blame Spike Lee, hipsters are horrible. Luckily they seem to be moving to dense urban areas, why I have no idea.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 26, 2014 07:48 PM (WdbF7)

747 738 If you do not smell salt air, do not order shrimp. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 11:45 PM (aDwsi) Depends on where you are. The best seafood in Florida, isn't. The best shrimp, the best fish, the best crab gets shipped out. They get better prices for it inland.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 07:48 PM (GEICT)

748 Tammy Al Thor, Miss Tammy I am watching The Americans on FX, I missed the beginning of 10 o'clock airing & looked here. Yes, I agree you had one of the best thread winners!

Posted by: Carol at February 26, 2014 07:48 PM (z4WKX)

749 I usually eat the plain white grits with a whole gang of butter and pepper on 'em -- same way I eat whole hominy. Damn, I'm getting hungry. I have some instant grits, which'll do in a pinch, I reckon. *** I'll admit to having a box of the individual packets of instant grits in the pantry for emergencies. The good thing about the grits I mentioned above is that I can make lots of extra and then refrigerate it. A quick minute in the microwave, top it off, and it's ready to go again.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 07:49 PM (DmNpO)

750 738 If you do not smell salt air, do not order shrimp.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 11:45 PM (aDwsi)

You shut your mouth.

Posted by: Vegas All-You-Can-Eat Shrimp Buffet at February 26, 2014 07:49 PM (LI48c)

751 Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 11:46 PM (ICgzA) Emmet Swimming?

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 07:50 PM (MtC8f)

752 Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 11:43 PM (zOTsN) Oh, I know. But I empathize with him anyway. I grew up with no indoor plumbing or electricity. Lots of toothless people in my parents and grandparent's generations, lots of other stereotypical hillbilly stuff. No one wants outsiders coming in and a) looking down their noses at you and b) telling you how much better they are than you, even if it's true in many ways.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:51 PM (Pfvig)

753 > 696 656 TR - You know who Miguel is? No, dude, that's Manuel, Manuel Lebour.

Posted by: sp101 at February 26, 2014 07:52 PM (ChecA)

754 Yes, I agree you had one of the best thread winners! Posted by: Carol at February 26, 2014 11:48 PM (z4WKX) I did??? Yay me! (What was it??)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:52 PM (Pfvig)

755 OK, whoever was recommending Shem's Creek.....there's a Shem's Creek Inn and a Shem's Creek Bar and Grill. Which one are you recommending?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 07:52 PM (T1005)

756 735 I'm surprised that there has been no commentary on Jimmy Carter jetting off to Venezuela. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 11:45 PM (aDwsi) -------------------------- This is our chance. Maduro needs hard currency .....badly. A lousy couple of million and I'm sure he'd agree to keep the old coot.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 07:53 PM (dfYL9)

757 738 If you do not smell salt air, do not order shrimp. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 11:45 PM (aDwsi) You shut your mouth. Posted by: Vegas All-You-Can-Eat Shrimp Buffet at February 26, 2014 11:49 PM (LI48c) Your Micro-Aggression disturbs me.

Posted by: Sandy Dandy Fluke at February 26, 2014 07:53 PM (MtC8f)

758 Tammy: used to love the stateof NC but a shitload ofl liberal idiots moved there and fucked up the vibe of the place. Why they gotta fuck with all that's holy. Assholes.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:53 PM (Q8vlx)

759 750 738 If you do not smell salt air, do not order shrimp. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 11:45 PM (aDwsi) You shut your mouth. Posted by: Vegas All-You-Can-Eat Shrimp Buffet at February 26, 2014 11:49 PM -------------------------------------------------------- And open your sphincter.

Posted by: Vegas All-You-Can-Crap toilet brigade at February 26, 2014 07:53 PM (DtNNC)

760 The best seafood in Florida, isn't. The best shrimp, the best fish, the best crab gets shipped out. They get better prices for it inland. Posted by: BCochran --------------- Well, I'm using my own rule of thumb..., but..., having grown up on the coast I know that seafood in general will have spent at least a day on the boat (maybe more), another day or so before it is sold/transferred to wholesalers, another day before it is sold/transferred to potential 'users',and then may be on ice for more days before it gets cooked. When you see a sign that says 'Fresh Shrimp', and you are 500 miles from the ocean, it ain't fresh..., in fact, it's probably a week old.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:53 PM (aDwsi)

761 arsenio hall has a show? I have not even heard of him ever since eddie murphy got in trouble for giving him a "ride home" in his mercedes in the 90s.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 07:53 PM (rDidD)

762 All right, time to turn in. 'Night, y'all!

Posted by: logprof at February 26, 2014 07:53 PM (X3GkB)

763 A lousy couple of million and I'm sure he'd agree to keep the old coot. Posted by: Margarita ---------------- I think we have a plan...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:55 PM (aDwsi)

764 @ 749 [NDH] -- Hmm. Now that you mention it, I guess grits would keep pretty well in the fridge.

The thing about the individual packets is -- well, who the hell only eats that many grits if they like them? You have to make two at a time.

It's like they're trying to make you feel like a glutton, or something.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 07:55 PM (m0h0I)

765 746 I don't blame Spike Lee, hipsters are horrible. Luckily they seem to be moving to dense urban areas, why I have no idea. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at February 26, 2014 11:48 PM (WdbF7) Fucking hipsters. I lived on the border of Compton and Lynwood for a year, not far from the infamous drug action on Pope St, and gunfire was a nightly occurrence, but I tell you straight up I'd move there again before I'd move to a hipster neighborhood. They like all the old architecture and feel all edgy living amongst Negroes, near as I can figure.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:56 PM (Pfvig)

766 so, apparently a neighborhood in arizona is being taken over by packs of feral chihuahuas. I say let 'em be how bad is it gonna be?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 07:56 PM (rDidD)

767 Yup. Witching hour.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:57 PM (aDwsi)

768 You shut your mouth. Posted by: Vegas All-You-Can-Eat Shrimp Buffet at February 26, 2014 11:49 PM -------------------------------------------------------- And open your sphincter. Posted by: Vegas All-You-Can-Crap toilet brigade at February 26, 2014 ---------------------------------------- Apparently, I'm warming up to this Anti-Roman sentiment.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 07:57 PM (DtNNC)

769 Good night, logprof!

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 07:57 PM (MpP9p)

770 Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 11:53 PM (Q8vlx) Ain't it awful?? Tragic.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:57 PM (Pfvig)

771 Hey hey everybody. Looks like I'm a bit late tonight.

Hey, did everyone hear that Ford is discontinuing offering Microsoft Sync technology on their cars? Apparently drivers were sick of Clippy popping up on their windshield saying "It looks like you're speeding way beyond the limit. Want me to call the cops on you?" and stuff like that.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 26, 2014 07:58 PM (HVI5a)

772 kate upton is not a hipster.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 07:58 PM (rDidD)

773 754 Tammy, a certain post about oral habits come to mind......

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 07:58 PM (ojnk6)

774 Emmet Swimming? Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 11:50 PM (MtC8f _____________ Wow. Haven't heard that name in years. You might be old. I'll try to one-up you... Waxing Poetics

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 07:58 PM (ICgzA)

775 I'd like to leave you with the dulcet renderings of 'Miguel', NC's favorite band..., but I'm not going to bother. You owe me for the favor...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 07:58 PM (aDwsi)

776

What smells like a penniless hobo, but is so rich they can buy all the hobos?

Glove and Boots - Evolution of the Hipster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbTI7eWaQbk

Posted by: buzzion at February 26, 2014 07:58 PM (LI48c)

777 752 Oh, I know. But I empathize with him anyway. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 11:51 PM (Pfvig) ------------------ I do too. There's always something a bit sad about a place losing its cultural identity, its character. Even when the change is objectively for the better, it's bittersweet.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 07:58 PM (dfYL9)

778 Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 11:56 PM (rDidD) I have a great deal of respect for chihuahuas. Proud, feisty little bastards.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 07:59 PM (Pfvig)

779 @ 752 [Tammy] -- No one wants outsiders coming in and a) looking down their noses at you and b) telling you how much better they are than you, even if it's true in many ways.

--------------------------------

Having worked on a survey crew outside of Mountain City, TN in a past life, I can testify.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 07:59 PM (m0h0I)

780 Tammy it really is.ten short years it's like the cockroaches won. Sad.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 07:59 PM (Q8vlx)

781 Miss Tammy, refresh my memoryÂ….aren't you in like NC now?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 07:59 PM (GEICT)

782 When you see a sign that says 'Fresh Shrimp', and you are 500 miles from the ocean, it ain't fresh..., in fact, it's probably a week old. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 11:53 PM (aDwsi) Just eat it Calvin. It builds character!

Posted by: Ben Watterson at February 26, 2014 07:59 PM (MtC8f)

783 I have $17.89 on me right now. I'll pay $17.89 for a simple bowl of grits (with a pad of butter on top) if you can deliver within the next 15 minutes. It's 11:58 PM Eastern, and as of now we are keeping score...

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 07:59 PM (JMmQ9)

784 I have a great deal of respect for chihuahuas. Proud, feisty little bastards. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, agreed, I am fine with a pack of feral chihuahuas, heck even wild on the 13th floor of our building.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:00 PM (rDidD)

785 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 11:58 PM (dfYL9) Exactly!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:01 PM (Pfvig)

786 I'm so old I remember when the the Japanese WWII Destroyer, Shimakaze didn't look like this

http://bit.ly/1fVvo7C

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 08:01 PM (bStrg)

787 BC, technically yes. Arkansas at the moment, though.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:02 PM (Pfvig)

788 Wow. Haven't heard that name in years. You might be old. I'll try to one-up you... Waxing Poetics Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 11:58 PM (ICgzA) LOL. I thought I was dating you, guess I dated myself.

Posted by: Ben Watterson at February 26, 2014 08:03 PM (MtC8f)

789 arkansas, nc, its all the same.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:03 PM (rDidD)

790 The Byzantine Empire stood for approx. 1,000 years longer than Rome. And deserves credit for keeping large parts of Europe free from Islamic rule for that time period as well. Posted by: Iasonas at February 26, 2014 10:18 PM (FHNkr) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg And the original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vankaSlfSr0

Posted by: The Fez Hat at February 26, 2014 08:03 PM (AymDN)

791 Stringer Davis really hated Latin class.

Posted by: Biggus Dickus at February 26, 2014 08:03 PM (R3gO3)

792 Chihuahua of the neighbor's across the street got out, ended up next door growling and snapping at the 7 month-old, 70 lb. German Shepard puppy next door. Finally, the Shepard just sat down and watched him.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 08:04 PM (aDwsi)

793 What a bunch of dumbasses! It turns out that Phil Robertson was fired because of Twitter. I'm on twitter all the time but I wouldn't make a decision about which breakfast sandwich to order at McD's based upon a twitter trend. http://t.co/q9yHGPUkSz

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 08:04 PM (DmNpO)

794 772 Hipster, no. Goddess young enough to be my daughter, yes.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 08:04 PM (ojnk6)

795 Alton, for $17.89 you can go to the Red Coat Tavern in Royal Oak and have one hell of a burger. Might need some more scratch to get a beer, but they usually have good ones.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 08:04 PM (sQ0LB)

796 Mountain City, eh? Good ol Johnson County. Trying to build a road were ya??

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:05 PM (Pfvig)

797 Goddess young enough to be my daughter, yes.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 12:04 AM (ojnk6)

as long as you share no blood, you can still stick it in her ass

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 08:05 PM (bStrg)

798 Damn sock

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 08:05 PM (MtC8f)

799 You know who Miguel is? Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 11:17 PM (aDwsi) Que?

Posted by: El Sombrero Político at February 26, 2014 08:06 PM (AymDN)

800 Dude: just damn, wow.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 08:06 PM (Q8vlx)

801 787 BC, technically yes. Arkansas at the moment, though. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:02 AM (Pfvig) Vacation? Visiting fam? Disposing of a body? Anywho, if you're in NC, that means you're not that far from VA. Where we're having the 2nd Annual NoVaMoMee in late June.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 08:06 PM (GEICT)

802 Alton, I live inMassachusetts & would stare rather than eating grits. It is not a food I've beaten exposed to.o

Posted by: Carol at February 26, 2014 08:06 PM (z4WKX)

803 hee. Just turned on King of the Hill and they are at a gay rodeo where one of the challenges is to put women's panties on a goat.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 08:06 PM (DmNpO)

804 arkansas, nc, its all the same. Posted by: yankeefifth at February 27, 2014 12:03 AM (rDidD) NC is prettier, at least the western part. But I do love AR. Ain't no Yankees and hipsters here yet, though retirees form Chicago and Wisconsin are pretty thick on the ground. Pretty Conservative in their voting, though, thank God.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:07 PM (Pfvig)

805 797 Goddess young enough to be my daughter, yes. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 12:04 AM (ojnk6) as long as you share no blood, you can still stick it in her ass Posted by: The Dude at February 27, 2014 12:05 AM (bStrg) Please step into my office.

Posted by: Psychologist RWC at February 26, 2014 08:07 PM (MtC8f)

806 797 I said "young enough". No relation. I could promise her, however, the best 4 seconds of my life.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 08:08 PM (ojnk6)

807 803 hee.

Just turned on King of the Hill and they are at a gay rodeo where one of the challenges is to put women's panties on a goat.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 12:06 AM (DmNpO)

FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP

Posted by: Farm animal pornographers at February 26, 2014 08:08 PM (LI48c)

808 NDH Mike judge is the Zevon of animation.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 08:08 PM (Q8vlx)

809 Hmm. I'm thinking we haven't heard from Moo Moo since the man/cow story.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 26, 2014 08:09 PM (aDwsi)

810 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 27, 2014 12:06 AM (GEICT) BC, You were probalbly asked this and answered but GF doing ok?

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 08:09 PM (MtC8f)

811 "... Kyle allegedly interrupted VenturaÂ’s harangue against Navy SEALS, President George W. Bush and US military policy by punching him in the face. Ventura, the former governor of Minnesota, filed a suit claiming there was no punch."

Ventura claimed for years to have seen heavy combat in Vietnam.

Well, Ventura was in the Navy *during* the Vietnam years, and he did deploy. To the Phillippines. He was never anywhere near the tough sledding in VN proper.

With luck, the counsel for Chris Kyle's widow will go after all this in court, stomp the suit into the dirt, and Ventura will get stuck paying not only his own legal bills but hers, plus damages.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 26, 2014 08:10 PM (gqT4g)

812 as long as you share no blood, you can still stick it in her ass Posted by: The Dude at February 27, 2014 12:05 AM (bStrg) Good to hear!

Posted by: Woody Allen at February 26, 2014 08:10 PM (AymDN)

813 You were probalbly asked this and answered but GF doing ok? Posted by: RWC at February 27, 2014 12:09 AM (MtC8f) Thanks for asking. Huge improvement over the last two days. A lot more energy, acting much more like himself. He drove himself to work today instead of having my dad go get him and bring him.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 08:11 PM (GEICT)

814 809 Hmm. I'm thinking we haven't heard from Moo Moo since the man/cow story.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 27, 2014 12:09 AM (aDwsi)

No doubt he's off urging the cow to have an abortion. How he'll explain this to bull-Jesus in afterlife would be fun to watch.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 08:11 PM (sQ0LB)

815 Hey MizzT,

How are things?

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 08:11 PM (PlzOe)

816 What is the big damn deal about sticking it in the ass?? Does it feel better than a twink or is it just the taboo of it?? Do I need to adjust my filters?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:12 PM (Pfvig)

817 I frickin hate these new KFC commercials. You're not hip. Nobody believes you made the commercial on your own. If you're serving 'trail mix' as dinner or getting fast food... Well..

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 08:12 PM (MtC8f)

818 Mornin' -- Anybody know what this My Brother's Keeper Initiative is? Obama meeting with business and 'foundation' leaders tomorrow.

I suspect MBK Initiative today and with a stroke of magic pen MBK Law tomorrow. Enforcement by Holder and Roberts tax by Obama Revenue Service.

Posted by: gracepmc at February 26, 2014 08:12 PM (rznx3)

819 Tammy Wisconsin native here, wouldn't.piss on a liberal if they were on fire. Daddy raised me right.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 08:12 PM (Q8vlx)

820 jc! Things are okay. I won't whine. How about you??

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:12 PM (Pfvig)

821 BC, I'll be in ND the last two weeks of June, provided I can actually get Thor to go to his own family reunion.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:13 PM (Pfvig)

822 RWC: what do you think of those Office Depot commercials with the Marlo Thomas-lookalike young woman showing off all of her new gadgets??

I think it should be titled "Portrait of a Person About to Get Mugged."

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 26, 2014 08:13 PM (HVI5a)

823 Tammy,

I think it's the feeling combined with the naughtiness of the act.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 08:14 PM (lr3d7)

824 816 Probably so, Tammy.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 08:14 PM (ojnk6)

825 Alton, for $17.89 you can go to the Red Coat Tavern in Royal Oak and have one hell of a burger. Might need some more scratch to get a beer, but they usually have good ones. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:04 AM Two things: 1.) I'm south-west of The Peoples' Republick of AnnArbor; Royal Oak is a minimum hour drive, and I'm not exactly in "one hour drive" condition... B.) Who are you, Brave Sir Knight, who knows so much about the ways of ~~science~~ metro-Detroit (Rock City)?

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 08:14 PM (JMmQ9)

826 Boooo. Alright, well, I'm up in NC every Christmas/New Year's. Maybe we can do a mini Meet at some point. Got to meet and hang out with EC this last Christmas.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 08:15 PM (GEICT)

827 Well, that very special time of year is coming soon again.

Green beer, corned beef and cabbage...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 26, 2014 08:15 PM (HVI5a)

828 Watching Survivor. Brains vs Brawn vs Beauty. Former Pageant girl and former NFL cheerleader who is Stacked on the Beauty team. Hope they stick around.

Posted by: Farm animal pornographers at February 26, 2014 08:15 PM (LI48c)

829 Daddy raised me right. Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 27, 2014 12:12 AM (Q8vlx) He damn sure did! I think pissing on a Liberal who is on fire is acceptable if it seems like the fire won't burn itself out quickly, though. I do have certain bleeding heart tendencies and I don't think I could watch even the most liberal of Liberals burn to death.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:16 PM (Pfvig)

830 Tammy, I think it's the feeling combined with the naughtiness of the act. Posted by: Colorado Alex at and we're off

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:16 PM (rDidD)

831 816 What is the big damn deal about sticking it in the ass?? Does it feel better than a twink or is it just the taboo of it??

Do I need to adjust my filters?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:12 AM (Pfvig)

Just ugh as far as I'm concerned. There is nothing on earth that would clean it to my satisfaction to stick myself in there, without the recipient needing emergency medical treatment.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 08:16 PM (sQ0LB)

832 @ 796 [Tammy] -- Mountain City, eh? Good ol Johnson County. Trying to build a road were ya??

---------------

Yep! It's a beautiful place. Not much in the way of nightlife, but beautiful. We had to drive over to NC to a place called the State Line Tavern (IIRC) to have a beer.

We ran into a bit of a hitch trying to get permission to go on someone's property to do the surveying, which delayed us for a few days. And the whole time we were there, I remember looking over my shoulder in case someone walked up with a shotgun.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 08:16 PM (m0h0I)

833 Green beer, corned beef and cabbage...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 27, 2014 12:15 AM (HVI5a)

Asking women if they "have a little Irish in them?"

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 08:16 PM (lr3d7)

834 It's okay till you get the dreaded poopdick

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 08:17 PM (bStrg)

835 Off bestiality sock.

Posted by: buzzion at February 26, 2014 08:17 PM (LI48c)

836 Thanks for asking. Huge improvement over the last two days. A lot more energy, acting much more like himself. He drove himself to work today instead of having my dad go get him and bring him. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 27, 2014 12:11 AM (GEICT) Huge step. Going from hospital to driving on his own.

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 08:17 PM (MtC8f)

837 >>>Mornin' -- Anybody know what this My Brother's Keeper Initiative is? <<<

Well, I certainly know what it's not.

Hah!

Posted by: SCOAMF's brother who lives in a hut at February 26, 2014 08:17 PM (UIxS+)

838 827 Steve, love the first two. I'll skip the kraut, and I'm Irish by descent.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 08:17 PM (ojnk6)

839 as long as you share no blood, you can still stick it in her ass Posted by: The Dude at February 27, 2014 12:05 AM wait, what? The science is settled? I need to get busy.

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 08:17 PM (JMmQ9)

840 I believe Royal Oak was where I set up camp on Woodward Ave to watch the dream cruise.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 26, 2014 08:18 PM (l3vZN)

841 Probably so, Tammy. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 12:14 AM (ojnk6) Filters or taboo, because you KNOW I wanna ask Alex about the feeling but I won't if it will descend into tackiness.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:18 PM (Pfvig)

842 816 What is the big damn deal about sticking it in the ass?? Does it feel better than a twink or is it just the taboo of it?? ------------------------------------------------------------- The grass is always greener. Undiscovered country.

Posted by: J.T. Kirk at February 26, 2014 08:18 PM (DtNNC)

843

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:16 AM (sQ0LB)

all they need is a douche and a plunger. Maybe a little bleaching as well

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 08:18 PM (bStrg)

844 Alton, I lived in Troy for 3 years while I did residency at Beaumont. Red Coat Tavern is about a 2 minute drive from campus and was the preferred hangout for ER people after a shift.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 08:18 PM (sQ0LB)

845 818 Mornin' -- Anybody know what this My Brother's Keeper Initiative is? Obama meeting with business and 'foundation' leaders tomorrow. I suspect MBK Initiative today and with a stroke of magic pen MBK Law tomorrow. Enforcement by Holder and Roberts tax by Obama Revenue Service. Posted by: gracepmc at February 27, 2014 12:12 AM (rznx3) ------------------------------ Well, the story is that helping young minority males has been the great driving passion of Obama's life. ( So he says, though he has never even pretended to make that a priority before.) My guess? Shoveling money to black leaders to buy their help in the elections.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 08:18 PM (dfYL9)

846 Filters or taboo, because you KNOW I wanna ask Alex about the feeling but I won't if it will descend into tackiness. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:18 AM (Pfvig) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 08:19 PM (GEICT)

847 Tammy,

Don't ask me, I wouldn't know. That's just what I've heard from other sources with more interest in it than I.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 08:19 PM (lr3d7)

848 yeah, this is gonna be worth staying awake.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:19 PM (rDidD)

849 My biscuits-and-gravy-deprived self is outta here. Good night, all!

Posted by: Vendette at February 26, 2014 08:19 PM (MpP9p)

850 816 What is the big damn deal about sticking it in the ass?? Does it feel better than a twink or is it just the taboo of it?? If we're talking about hetero, it's tighter.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 08:19 PM (k8m83)

851 I remember looking over my shoulder in case someone walked up with a shotgun. Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 27, 2014 12:16 AM (m0h0I) Smart man. You'd have never heard him, that's for sure. Probably one of my uncles or cousins, too. Quite good shots. And yes, it's gorgeous!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:20 PM (Pfvig)

852 ManWithNoParty: believe it or not, I've never tried corned beef and cabbage. I *do* remember that I absolutely loved corned beef hash when I was very young, though.

The below linked bar is literally walking distance from my home, and has CBC year-round. Wonder if I should try it there first.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/brien-o-connors-lakewood

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 26, 2014 08:20 PM (HVI5a)

853 Mike Hammer, Please don't bring up Mr Moo Moo! Good night. yv

Posted by: Carol at February 26, 2014 08:20 PM (z4WKX)

854

Jinx, you are probably corrrect. Just north of 13 Mile on the East side of Woodward, past the Burger King.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 08:21 PM (sQ0LB)

855 833 And then asking them if they would like to?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 08:21 PM (ojnk6)

856 Does it feel better than a twink or is it just the taboo of it?? ------------------------------------------------------------- It's the taboo. The real thing is the only thing.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 08:21 PM (DtNNC)

857 818 Mornin' -- Anybody know what this My Brother's Keeper Initiative is? Obama meeting with business and 'foundation' leaders tomorrow. I suspect MBK Initiative today and with a stroke of magic pen MBK Law tomorrow. Enforcement by Holder and Roberts tax by Obama Revenue Service. Posted by: gracepmc at February 27, 2014 12:12 AM (rznx3) Looks like the intent is ostensibly to encourage minority boys. It is ironic, considering the violence that takes place in some communities, that they would use a scripture quotation from Cain after he killed Abel.

Posted by: Mindy at February 26, 2014 08:22 PM (RMfGb)

858 Dude: Not clean enough.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 08:22 PM (sQ0LB)

859 Y'all are so helpful. And I think we got through it well, not that I'm finished. But I'll be good for now. It's early yet.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:22 PM (Pfvig)

860 825 ----I'm south-west of The Peoples' Republick of AnnArbor Posted by: AltonJackson at February 27, 2014 12:14 AM (JMmQ9) ------------------------------- One of my kids went to Hillsdale. Damn. Could have made some money getting you snacks.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 08:22 PM (dfYL9)

861 Posted by: qdpsteve at February 27, 2014 12:13 AM (HVI5a) Rachel Woodward Hanson. Cute, but yeah theoing that tech out there is inviting mayhem.

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 08:23 PM (MtC8f)

862 What is the big damn deal about sticking it in the ass??))) I'm pretty sure it is about power and control for men that are insecure. Kinda like prison sex.

Posted by: Dendritic at February 26, 2014 08:23 PM (Fi+kS)

863 I hope to make it there next August, but it is always a busy time with kids in college. If I do, I'll be driving a '67 El Camino from Virginia to the Motor City.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 26, 2014 08:23 PM (l3vZN)

864 Throwing

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 08:23 PM (MtC8f)

865 Tammy. NDH, BC, nite everybody 4:30 am comes early. Gotta make the nails. It's been fun. This country aint dead yet. You giveme hope. Thanks Sleep like babies.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 08:24 PM (Q8vlx)

866 This conversation isn't really taking place, is it?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 08:24 PM (DmNpO)

867 I think you meant "pitching"

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:24 PM (rDidD)

868 The real thing is the only thing.
Posted by: irright at February 27, 2014 12:21 AM (DtNNC)

Agreed. Female butts were made for spanking...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 08:24 PM (lr3d7)

869 Goodnight, Chavez! Sleep well! It was fun yakking with you!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:24 PM (Pfvig)

870 G'nite Chavez

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 08:24 PM (DmNpO)

871 637 But get your nose out of their Mafia ass. They were not gods, or even very exemplary men. Posted by: Stringer Davis When did we start worshiping Rome? Rome is a cautionary tale with cool marble work, like a few Mafia homes I had been in as a kid.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 26, 2014 08:25 PM (pfkfr)

872 Dude: Not clean enough.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:22 AM (sQ0LB)

like you never stuck your tongue in a chick's ass before

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 08:25 PM (bStrg)

873 It most assuredly is, NDH. Care to add any thoughts? Night Chavez. I'm headed out in a sec.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 08:25 PM (GEICT)

874 RWC: is that the name of the actress in that ad?

She's not bad looking, but I doubt she's any more than five feet tall. Even in the OfficeDepot spot, she looks tiny.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 26, 2014 08:25 PM (HVI5a)

875 What is the big damn deal about sticking it in the ass??))) I'm pretty sure it is about power and control for men that are insecure. Kinda like prison sex. Posted by: Dendritic it prison sex better than nothing?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:25 PM (rDidD)

876 Alex Alex Alex.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:25 PM (Pfvig)

877 *looks innocent*

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 08:26 PM (lr3d7)

878 like you never stuck your tongue in a chick's ass before Posted by: The Dude at February 27, 2014 12:25 AM (bStrg) *chokes on drink*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 26, 2014 08:26 PM (GEICT)

879 872 like you never stuck your tongue in a chick's ass before Not while sober

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2014 08:26 PM (k8m83)

880 Oh gag. Obamacare ad. bleccccchhhhh

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 08:26 PM (dfYL9)

881 Here is a joke I love. It relates to one of the topics in the ONT. The joke is from the old days, before everyone had cell phones. -- A man was out driving when he suddenly had a flat tire. He immediately pulled over, opened his trunk, and got to work on fixing the flat. As he was working, he realized two things. One, he had pulled over right next to a mental institution; and two, there was an inmate standing just on the other side of the fence, watching what he was doing. He began to be nervous about this crazy person watching him. Who knew why this person was in the asylum? Still, he did okay until he put the spare on and needed to bolt it into place. In his nervous state, as he reached for the hubcap holding the bolts, he knocked it and the bolts popped out... right into a storm sewer. "Oh no!" he exclaimed out loud. "Now what can I do?" To his surprise, the inmate answered this question. "Take one bolt from each of the other three wheels. They will all be okay with one bolt missing, and three bolts is enough to drive away. You can drive to a repair shop and get more bolts." "Wow! That's great advice!" said the driver gratefully. He completely forgot how worried he had been about how crazy this guy might be. He exclaimed, "Why are *you* in there?!?" The inmate shrugged. "I'm in here because I'm *crazy*, not because I'm *stupid*." -- Not everyone in an institution is totally insane and/or completely detached from reality.

Posted by: mr_jack at February 26, 2014 08:27 PM (TMG3G)

882 I think pissing on a Liberal who is on fire is acceptable if it seems like the fire won't burn itself out quickly, though. I do have certain bleeding heart tendencies and I don't think I could watch even the most liberal of Liberals burn to death. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:16 AM Tammy, you reminded me of the old joke from the "Occupy" days: (modified to the current context): "Build a liberal a fire, you'll keep him warn for a night. Set a liberal on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life" Although it's true, I proactively denounce myself for speaking the truth...

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 08:27 PM (JMmQ9)

883 like you never stuck your tongue in a chick's ass before Posted by: The Dude at February 27, 2014 12:25 AM (bStrg) My filters are locked down. They are LOCKED DOWN. Yes sirree Bob.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:27 PM (Pfvig)

884 Oh gag. Obamacare ad. bleccccchhhhh Posted by: Margarita DeVille uh, hey, we do have some decency standards around here

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:27 PM (rDidD)

885 Although it's true, I proactively denounce myself for speaking the truth... Posted by: AltonJackson at February 27, 2014 12:27 AM (JMmQ9) LOL! But see, if we wandered over to DU and saw this in a comment section, we'd be horrified.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:28 PM (Pfvig)

886 NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 2m BREAKING: Armed men seize regional government building and parliament in Ukraine, Reuters reports - @CNBCWorld

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 08:28 PM (DmNpO)

887 My filters are locked down. They are LOCKED DOWN. Yes sirree Bob. Posted by: Tammy as if you have ever stuck you r tongue in a chicks ass.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:28 PM (rDidD)

888 AltonJackson: that's a good one. Here's mine:

"It's great being a centrist. Now my left-wing friends and right-wing friends are having a contest to see who can burn down my house the fastest."

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 26, 2014 08:28 PM (HVI5a)

889 uh, hey, we do have some decency standards around here Posted by: yankeefifth at February 27, 2014 12:27 AM (rDidD) Hell yea, we can't be gettin' obscene, now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:29 PM (Pfvig)

890 @ 866 [NDH] -- I was a bit flummoxed, myself.

You just never know what the ONT will bring.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 26, 2014 08:29 PM (m0h0I)

891 I never considered myself an Amy Winehouse fan. I never paid much attention to her when she was alive. But lately I've been checking out some of her music on YouTube and I'm increasingly impressed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=namFjcOgHSE And Good Lord she was beautiful before the drugs and tattoos took over: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFcG0pBhKPA

Posted by: rickl at February 26, 2014 08:29 PM (sdi6R)

892 NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 2m BREAKING: Armed men seize regional government building and parliament in Ukraine, Reuters reports - @CNBCWorld Well, that's going to knock tonguing the chick's ass right off the front page. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 26, 2014 08:29 PM (l3vZN)

893 blame Tammy, she's the one that started it

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 08:29 PM (bStrg)

894 it prison sex better than nothing?)) There is only nothing if you stole twice in an Islamic country.

Posted by: Dendritic at February 26, 2014 08:30 PM (Fi+kS)

895 like you never stuck your tongue in a chick's ass before

Posted by: The Dude at February 27, 2014 12:25 AM (bStrg)

Like I said, not clean enough.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 08:30 PM (sQ0LB)

896 393 UNC and NCState are in overtime.
Die, Tarheels, die!

THIS

Posted by: bill-o, spawn of the WolfPack at February 26, 2014 08:31 PM (AWwDY)

897 blame Tammy, she's the one that started it Posted by: The Dude yeah, sure

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:31 PM (rDidD)

898 Posted by: yankeefifth at February 27, 2014 12:28 AM (rDidD) You know me well! I was just gonna ask what the appeal was there, because I'm not seeing where tightness would be any big deal in that scenario but of course my filters, they are LOCKED. DOWN. I suppose it's just the pure raunchiness of it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:31 PM (Pfvig)

899 Thanks.everybody sleep well and see you next time. It's been fun.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at February 26, 2014 08:32 PM (Q8vlx)

900 Tammy, you reminded me of the old joke from the "Occupy" days: (modified to the current context): "Build a liberal a fire, you'll keep him warn for a night. Set a liberal on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life" Although it's true, I proactively denounce myself for speaking the truth... Posted by: AltonJackson at February 27, 2014 12:27 AM (JMmQ9) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlyvcti3kQU

Posted by: The Pyro Hat at February 26, 2014 08:32 PM (AymDN)

901 852 Steve, I've been to a number of places in GA that do good Corned Beef. A chain called Firehouse does a combo Corned Beef and Brisket Sub called a New York Steamer that's pretty tasty. Nevrr tried out in CA though.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 08:32 PM (ojnk6)

902 884 uh, hey, we do have some decency standards around here Posted by: yankeefifth at February 27, 2014 12:27 AM (rDidD) -------------------- I apologize!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 08:32 PM (dfYL9)

903 Okay, back to current events. Since no one seems to share my sadness over de Lucia, what's that about Ukraine?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:33 PM (Pfvig)

904 Huh. Royal Oak. A lifetime ago, my family claimed R.O. as home. Then Battle Creek, Centreville, a few other 'burbs. Bruce Campbell is from Royal Oak.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 08:33 PM (ICgzA)

905 I am having a hard time believing the number of people on this smart military blog that have never had biscuits & gravy or know what real bbq is. Posted by: shredded chi I grew up in N. IL, never had biscuits and gravy. Met my wife from Chitown, they know biscuits and gravy. I suspect brought up from the south.

Posted by: The Farmer at February 26, 2014 08:34 PM (eBupg)

906 Of all the people to throw me under the bus, who'd a thunk it would be Dude!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:34 PM (Pfvig)

907 - 879 " like you never stuck your tongue in a chick's ass before" - ------------------------------------------ Define "chick".

Posted by: someone whose tongue has wandered at February 26, 2014 08:35 PM (DtNNC)

908 Alrighty, I'm off to bed. Miss Tammy, it was nice to hear from you again. Don't be a stranger. Everyone else, I'll catch you tomorrow evening. Have a good night!

Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 26, 2014 08:35 PM (lr3d7)

909 820 jc! Things are okay. I won't whine.

How about you??

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:12 AM (Pfvig)

=====

going thru a few things, but it is a long story and I am not ready to tell it yet.

still smiling, laughing, and trying hard.

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 08:35 PM (PlzOe)

910 You know me well! I was just gonna ask what the appeal was there, because I'm not seeing where tightness would be any big deal in that scenario but of course my filters, they are LOCKED. DOWN. I suppose it's just the pure raunchiness of it. Posted by: Tammy you sure that's all it is?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:35 PM (rDidD)

911 I am having a hard time believing the number of people on this smart military blog that have never had biscuits & gravy or know what real bbq is. Posted by: shredded chi I guess not too many people here eat scrapple, then.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 26, 2014 08:35 PM (l3vZN)

912

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:34 AM (Pfvig)

don't ask about something if you don't want the answer

Really wish BabyMetal would do a US tour

http://youtu.be/WIKqgE4BwAY

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 08:35 PM (bStrg)

913

Bruce Campbell is from Royal Oak.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 27, 2014 12:33 AM (ICgzA)

A friend of a firend was walking in NYC and passed Bruce Campbell.

Friend: Hey, you're Bruce Campbell!!

BC (walks on a few steps, then turns): Someone's gotta be.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 08:36 PM (sQ0LB)

914 Define "chick". Posted by: someone whose tongue has wandered at February 27, 2014 12:35 AM (DtNNC) God I love this place. But when Maet lands, I reckon I'm gonna get busted.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:36 PM (Pfvig)

915 901 852
Steve, I've been to a number of places in GA that do good Corned Beef. A chain called Firehouse does a combo Corned Beef and Brisket Sub called a New York Steamer that's pretty tasty. Nevrr tried out in CA though. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 12:32 AM (ojnk6) Hide posts from (ojnk6)

I'm pretty sure that if I saw "Cleveland Steamer" on a menu, I'd get up and walk out.....and I'm not sure if I wouldn't for "New York Steamer."

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 08:36 PM (T1005)

916 Define "chick". Posted by: someone well, human, anything with feathers was discussed earlier.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:36 PM (rDidD)

917 Just catching up on comments.

I don't know if Rome is the best empire around, but I certainly found that +35% production for all structures completed in the capital was the most useful bonus.

Posted by: Methos at February 26, 2014 08:37 PM (hO9ad)

918 896 THIS Posted by: bill-o, spawn of the WolfPack at February 27, 2014 12:31 AM (AWwDY) ------------------------- You guys got robbed. But then, nothing unusual about the 'heels getting help from refs.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 08:38 PM (dfYL9)

919 But when Maet lands, I reckon I'm gonna get busted. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February more likely hw will blow something; and I do not mean someone.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:38 PM (rDidD)

920 I would commit a number of felonies for a super-sized order of biscuits and gravy right now

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 08:39 PM (JMmQ9)

921 I guess not too many people here eat scrapple, then. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 27, 2014 12:35 AM ---------------------------------- I'll see your scrapple, and raise you head cheese.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 08:39 PM (DtNNC)

922 918 896
THIS

Posted by: bill-o, spawn of the WolfPack at February 27, 2014 12:31 AM (AWwDY)
-------------------------
You guys got robbed.
But then, nothing unusual about the 'heels getting help from refs. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2014 12:38 AM (dfYL9) Hide posts from (dfYL9)

I'm kind o' catching a "Washington Nationals / Harlem Globetrotters" kind of vibe....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 08:39 PM (T1005)

923 you sure that's all it is? Posted by: yankeefifth at February 27, 2014 12:35 AM (rDidD) It's just that I can't imagine what else it could be. I mean there are so many other things you could be doing with your tongue that it seems like a waste. But to each their own. Dude, you know me too well, too! I did want to know. Not in a vulgar way, I'm just curious. I like to know about things. Damn it, where's Berserker. He'd understand my sorrow over Paco.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:40 PM (Pfvig)

924 I once heard of a man who confessed he could never be truly happy. Even if he was banging the most beautiful woman in the world (and indeed I know he once dated a woman who was publicly adulated for her looks and bosom), some part of him would fixate that she wasn't perfect, that undoubtedly there was a molecule of shit still in her ass. That makes him the most pitiful man in my estimation, precisely because I cannot stand to pity him.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at February 26, 2014 08:40 PM (Em6d4)

925 857 845 818

Oh, ok. My bad. My Minority Brothers Keeper's Initiative. Now it makes sense.

Posted by: gracepmc at February 26, 2014 08:40 PM (rznx3)

926 cthulu!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:41 PM (Pfvig)

927 923 you sure that's all it is?

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 27, 2014 12:35 AM (rDidD)

It's just that I can't imagine what else it could be. I mean there are so many other things you could be doing with your tongue that it seems like a waste. But to each their own.

Dude, you know me too well, too! I did want to know. Not in a vulgar way, I'm just curious. I like to know about things.

Damn it, where's Berserker. He'd understand my sorrow over Paco.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:40 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

It may also have something to do with the Coolidge Effect.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 08:42 PM (T1005)

928 What happened to jc?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:42 PM (Pfvig)

929 915 Not that kind of Steamer., Corned Beef, Beef Brisket, provelone, mayo and spicy mustard on a bun. Heaven..ll

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 08:42 PM (ojnk6)

930 I'll see your scrapple, and raise you head cheese.))) Head cheese is disgusting but Beef tounge is da bomb.

Posted by: Dendritic at February 26, 2014 08:42 PM (Fi+kS)

931 cthulhu Thanks for the link the other day to market-ticker on the Comcast/Netflix thing. Was interesting.

Posted by: gracepmc at February 26, 2014 08:42 PM (rznx3)

932 926 cthulu! Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:41 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

Yes...?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 08:42 PM (T1005)

933 I trust you, cthulu... is it safe to Google that?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:43 PM (Pfvig)

934 Oh...THAT conversation again. I guess it's been about six months.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 08:44 PM (ICgzA)

935 Dude, you know me too well, too! I did want to know. Not in a vulgar way, I'm just curious. I like to know about things. Damn it, where's Berserker. He'd understand my sorrow over Paco. Posted by: Tammy asking Bers is a problem. he probably has a pretty good idea but it is hard a isolate the answer 'cause while he was layin' pipe in someones ass she was probably leaning over his harley, while he was revving the throttle on a bed in a motel room while her girlfriend was slapping her on her behind saying her time was up and it was her turn. he probably has a good guesstimate though.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:44 PM (rDidD)

936 930 I'll see your scrapple, and raise you head cheese.))) Head cheese is disgusting but Beef tounge is da bomb. Posted by: Dendritic at February 27, 2014 12:42 AM (Fi+kS) ======= I'd rather head cheese than tongue; the latter's flavor is admittedly good but there's something about the texture I can't quite accept. And remember I LIKED the lamb spleen....

Posted by: Sister Sestina at February 26, 2014 08:44 PM (Em6d4)

937 931 cthulhu Thanks for the link the other day to market-ticker on the Comcast/Netflix thing. Was interesting.
Posted by: gracepmc at February 27, 2014 12:42 AM (rznx3) Hide posts from (rznx3)

Quite welcome. It really does seem like it's all the rage for companies to use government persecution of their competitors/hosts so that they can dominate/parasitize them. Crony capitalism seems like a gateway drug to pure cronyism.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 08:44 PM (T1005)

938 932 comments?? Damn, did an asteroid hit the UN building or some shit?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 26, 2014 08:45 PM (FMbng)

939 and it started to get a little crazy from there.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:45 PM (rDidD)

940 Head cheese is disgusting but Beef tongue is da bomb. Posted by: Dendritic at February 27, 2014 12:42 AM ----------------------------------------------------------------- How do you keep it from being the toughest/chewiest thing ever? The cooking? The slicing?

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 08:46 PM (DtNNC)

941 933 I trust you, cthulu... is it safe to Google that? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:43 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

Coolidge Effect, yes......Cleveland Steamer, not so much.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 08:46 PM (T1005)

942 Posted by: yankeefifth at February 27, 2014 12:44 AM (rDidD) NO no, I meant about Paco de Lucia.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:46 PM (Pfvig)

943 If we're listing Roman achievements, they trashed Gaul.

That alone's worth a whole lot of misbehavin'.

Posted by: Al at February 26, 2014 08:46 PM (9ynpo)

944 925 Oh, ok. My bad. My Minority Brothers Keeper's Initiative. Now it makes sense. Posted by: gracepmc at February 27, 2014 12:40 AM (rznx3) -------------------------- Isn't that cute, the way he defines "his brother" racially?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 08:46 PM (dfYL9)

945 Really? Analigus. That's tonight's topic?

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 08:47 PM (G24V5)

946 934 Oh...THAT conversation again.
I guess it's been about six months. Posted by: shredded chi at February 27, 2014 12:44 AM (ICgzA) Hide posts from (ICgzA)

???

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 08:47 PM (T1005)

947 Coolidge. I learned about the other from this smart mil blog , which is why I was afraid to Google Coolidge.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:47 PM (Pfvig)

948 Mornin' -- Anybody know what this My Brother's Keeper Initiative is? Obama meeting with business and 'foundation' leaders tomorrow.

More Orwellian bullshit, this time focused on people who are sort of Christian but who missed the part about being as clever as serpents but as innocent as doves (i.e. Satan's followers will try to trick us into aiding their projects by using words that sound nice to us).

Posted by: Methos at February 26, 2014 08:47 PM (hO9ad)

949 uh, hey, we do have some decency standards around here Posted by: yankeefifth
Like you've never stuck your tongue in an Obamacare ad, YF!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 26, 2014 08:47 PM (Eiwo7)

950 943 If we're listing Roman achievements, they trashed Gaul. That alone's worth a whole lot of misbehavin'. Posted by: Al at February 27, 2014 12:46 AM (9ynpo) ========= Not quite! There was one little village...

Posted by: Goscinny & Uderzo at February 26, 2014 08:47 PM (Em6d4)

951 NO no, I meant about Paco de Lucia. Posted by: Tammy so did I

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:47 PM (rDidD)

952 928 What happened to jc?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:42 AM (Pfvig)

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he got confused.

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 08:47 PM (PlzOe)

953 How do you keep it from being the toughest/chewiest thing ever? The cooking? The slicing?

Posted by: irright at February 27, 2014 12:46 AM (DtNNC)

beef tongue needs to be slow cooked. The tougher the meat, the slower the cook

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 08:48 PM (bStrg)

954 hey, we do have some decency standards around here Posted by: yankeefifth Like you've never stuck your tongue in an Obamacare ad, YF! Posted by: andycanuck heh

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:48 PM (rDidD)

955 G'night you degenerates.q

Posted by: RWC at February 26, 2014 08:49 PM (MtC8f)

956 Must be Steinbeck's birthday. That was a cute story! And I do firmly believe in the Coolidge effect. Hey jc! About what? I hope I didn't upset you with all the vulgar talk. I'm all done with that now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:49 PM (Pfvig)

957 I don't blame Spike Lee, hipsters are horrible. Luckily they seem to be moving to dense urban areas, why I have no idea. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand because after being educated at prep school and the ivys, they want some street cred

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 08:50 PM (zOTsN)

958 938 Maet posted early due to a travel schedule. He notified earlier this week that the ONT may be erratic time wise due to travel.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 08:50 PM (ojnk6)

959 huh, I thought the my borhters keeper thing was about having your brother locked up under your stairwell. brb,gotta do somethin

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:50 PM (rDidD)

960 950 ---

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2014 08:50 PM (dfYL9)

961 944 925

Isn't that cute, the way he defines "his brother" racially?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 27, 2014 12:46 AM (dfYL9)

****************

Positively adorable.

Posted by: gracepmc at February 26, 2014 08:50 PM (rznx3)

962 hey, we do have some decency standards around here Posted by: yankeefifth Like you've never stuck your tongue in an Obamacare ad, YF! Posted by: andycanuck LOL!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:50 PM (Pfvig)

963 I have some numbnut trying to sell me a guitar, tonight. He claims it is a one-off. Problem. I have one already. Same specs, same year. I have owned 2 others... Granted, his has a different serial number. But that's pushing the 'one-off' description a bit far, now, isn't it?

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 08:51 PM (G24V5)

964 Bers! Paco de Lucia died. I know you're more of a classical guy, but it gave me a big sad.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:51 PM (Pfvig)

965 Night RWC!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:52 PM (Pfvig)

966 When did Paco de Lucia die!?

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 08:52 PM (G24V5)

967 When did Paco de Lucia die!? Posted by: garrett at February it was right at the end

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 08:53 PM (rDidD)

968 ??? Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:47 AM (T1005) _____________ Just seems like the buttsecks comes up a couple times a year. CCrank - funny. That sounds exactly like what I imagine him to be like. I wouldn't mind sitting down for a beer with him. How have you been, anyway?

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 08:53 PM (ICgzA)

969 956 Must be Steinbeck's birthday.

That was a cute story! And I do firmly believe in the Coolidge effect.

Hey jc! About what? I hope I didn't upset you with all the vulgar talk. I'm all done with that now. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:49 AM (Pfvig) Hide posts from (Pfvig)

This is purely speculative, of course, but it may be that the Coolidge Effect might not require an entirely different woman to be involved....merely some significant difference.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 08:54 PM (T1005)

970 gareett, he died today. like a few hours ago. I am so bummed. Playing Friday Night in SF right now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:54 PM (Pfvig)

971 I normally just don't say anything at times like this, but just for future reference, I just really have nothing to add to this conversation.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at February 26, 2014 08:54 PM (qyfb5)

972 He died "yesterday" sometime before 3:00 p.m. ET.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 26, 2014 08:55 PM (Eiwo7)

973 937 931
Crony capitalism seems like a gateway drug to pure cronyism.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:44 AM (T1005)

***************

Ah, capitalism. Getting harder and harder to define.

Posted by: gracepmc at February 26, 2014 08:55 PM (rznx3)

974 OK, I'm out tomorrow night, mi amigeos

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 26, 2014 08:55 PM (JMmQ9)

975 Hey jc! About what? I hope I didn't upset you with all the vulgar talk. I'm all done with that now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:49 AM (Pfvig)

====

you didn't write anything that would upset me. I was reading somewhere else.

I am getting a major kick outa reading Mark Steyn kicking the crap outa Piltdown Mann.

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 08:55 PM (PlzOe)

976 beef tongue needs to be slow cooked. The tougher the meat, the slower the cook)) Yes just like corned beef and cabbage beef tounge was an all day boil when my Mom made it. There where 6 kids in my house we ate some odd cheap crap and grew to love it.

Posted by: Dendritic at February 26, 2014 08:55 PM (Fi+kS)

977 but just for future reference, I just really have nothing to add to this conversation.
~~Shat~~ Cat got your tongue?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 26, 2014 08:56 PM (Eiwo7)

978 Damn. I got to see him a few times over the years. Incredible doesn't begin to describe his talent. Now I am sad.

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 08:56 PM (G24V5)

979 chi, I'm good. Had an interesting past week--named in my first lawsuit (no details will be shared other than to say I think it has no merit), kitchen sink fell out from the countertop and has to be remounted, and I had to wade into my ice-covered pond to rescue 2 of my dogs who had fallen in.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 08:57 PM (sQ0LB)

980 beef tongue needs to be slow cooked. The tougher the meat, the slower the cook Posted by: The Dude at February 27, 2014 12:48 AM --------------------------------------- No offense, (would totally give it another try with the right cook) but, tongue is bait. (heh, that's what she said)

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 08:57 PM (DtNNC)

981 If we're listing Roman achievements, they trashed Gaul. That alone's worth a whole lot of misbehavin'. Posted by: Al at February 27, 2014 12:46 AM (9ynpo) ========= Not quite! There was one little village... Posted by: Goscinny & Uderzo at February 27, 2014 12:47 AM (Em6d4) A little mood music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82sdHKZ8f-8

Posted by: Getafix at February 26, 2014 08:57 PM (AymDN)

982 merely some significant difference. Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:54 AM (T1005) Agreed. And don't think I don't have a story, but I distinctly remember BeeBe explaining that telling personal stories is where I get in trouble. Which is sad, cuz it's funny.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:57 PM (Pfvig)

983

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:57 AM (sQ0LB)

if you have to remount one, you should upgrade to a farmhouse sink

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 08:58 PM (bStrg)

984 Bers! Paco de Lucia died. I know you're more of a classical guy, but it gave me a big sad.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 12:51 AM (Pfvig)

Oh shit, really? Damn, he was intense. That sucks.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 26, 2014 08:59 PM (FMbng)

985 I SCRAPED SOME AOS MAETENLOCH OFF THE BOTTOM OF MY SHOE TODAY THAT HAD MORE PRINCIPLES THAN JAN BREWER.

Posted by: Mi nombre es C. Mc Morris-Rogers y me gusta pene. at February 26, 2014 08:59 PM (Cs2tJ)

986 I'd have Mark Steyn's baby in a heartbeat. I always say that between the size and shape of his head and our mutual gingerness the child would come out looking like Heat Miser, but I'd have it anyway.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 08:59 PM (Pfvig)

987 It's a double sink underhung on the granite. The sink and granite are fine, it looks like the brackets weren't secured properly. Going to use some industrial granite adhesive to hold the bolts in place this time.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 09:00 PM (sQ0LB)

988 968 ???

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:47 AM (T1005)
_____________

Just seems like the buttsecks comes up a couple times a year.

CCrank - funny. That sounds exactly like what I imagine him to be like. I wouldn't mind sitting down for a beer with him.

How have you been, anyway? Posted by: shredded chi at February 27, 2014 12:53 AM (ICgzA) Hide posts from (ICgzA)

Oh, no, it's far more often than that. But, like it did in this thread, once the subject is broached, things tend to end up in a particular way.....

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:00 PM (T1005)

989 Oh shit, really? Damn, he was intense. That sucks. Posted by: B It does, doesn't it. He was amazing.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:00 PM (Pfvig)

990 sigh, brb, I am gonna go walk my methlab.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 26, 2014 09:01 PM (rDidD)

991 wish I could shoot all of the sunglass designers. Quit making everything look gay or bro-heim

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 09:02 PM (bStrg)

992 If someone else procures the tongue, cooks it in a house I am not in and puts it on a sandwich without telling me what it is, I can eat it. But I cannot look at it at any stage.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:03 PM (Pfvig)

993 979 chi, I'm good. Had an interesting past week--named in my first lawsuit (no details will be shared other than to say I think it has no merit), kitchen sink fell out from the countertop and has to be remounted, and I had to wade into my ice-covered pond to rescue 2 of my dogs who had fallen in. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:57 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

That'll keep you busy.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:03 PM (T1005)

994 Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:57 AM Well good lord.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:04 PM (Pfvig)

995 A relaxed Woody Allen emerged on Monday amid reports his 16-year marriage is in trouble. The 78-year-old director wore a slight smile as he left a New York hotel, as a new piece in the National Enquirer alleged his relationship with Soon-Yi, 43, is under pressure. The publication alleges the couple are having problems after recently renewed allegations he molested his adopted daughter Dylan Farrow when she was seven-years-old the sound of the other shoe dropping

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 09:04 PM (zOTsN)

996 yankeefifth, if I am not here when you get back, good night!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:05 PM (Pfvig)

997 An insider close to the director told the Enquirer that the couple's relationship 'may be on the brink of collapse.' The source said: '[Soon-Yi's] been at WoodyÂ’s throat and he canÂ’t seem to do anything to calm her down. 'They have been arguing over DylanÂ’s accusations, and itÂ’s turned them against each other. Old wounds have been reÂopened and itÂ’s tearing Woody and Soon-Yi apart.' Woody and Soon-Yi married in 1997, five years after it was revealed he was intimately involved with Farrow's 21-year-old adopted daughter.

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 09:05 PM (zOTsN)

998 CCrank, I'm betting you have (had) stainless mounted under a granite countertop. if you still have contact information for whoever installed it, make them pay - it should've lasted forever. Good luck on the B.S. lawsuit, & glad you got to the doggies in time. I bet they love you even more now!

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 09:06 PM (ICgzA)

999 986 It's a double sink underhung on the granite. The sink and granite are fine, it looks like the brackets weren't secured properly. Going to use some industrial granite adhesive to hold the bolts in place this time. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 01:00 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

It shouldn't be bolted, it should be sitting on a frame. And when you grout the sink to the granite, put full 5-gallon buckets into it (plus additional weight), do the caulk, let it dry, then pull the weight out.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:06 PM (T1005)

1000 It does, doesn't it. He was amazing.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 27, 2014 01:00 AM (Pfvig)

what killed him?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 26, 2014 09:07 PM (FMbng)

1001 She's old enough now to realize he had no business doing what he did to her, so it lends credence to what Dylan said.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:07 PM (Pfvig)

1002 He had a sudden heart attack, I think.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:08 PM (Pfvig)

1003 Had an interesting past week--named in my first lawsuit (no details will be shared other than to say I think it has no merit), kitchen sink fell out from the countertop and has to be remounted, and I had to wade into my ice-covered pond to rescue 2 of my dogs who had fallen in. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:57 AM ----------------------------------------------------------- That sounds like a complicated lawsuit. Two dogs AND the kitchen sink. Discovery is gonna be a bitch.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2014 09:09 PM (DtNNC)

1004

Cthulhu, everything I read when I researched undermount sinks in granite is that you use mounting clips to support it. Pre-existing from previous owners, so no idea who did it. Some of the hardware for some of the clips seems to be missing as well. I'll be supporting it with C-clamps and a 2x4 across the top of the counter for installation.

There were a few pieces of fiberboard around the periphery, but they don't look like they had any weightbearing responsibility except in the front, where the initial point of failure was.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 09:11 PM (sQ0LB)

1005 Crank -- is it a cast iron sink or stainless? Mine's a Kohler cast-iron undermount.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:11 PM (T1005)

1006 I am gonna go to bed now, sweetlings... thanks so much for a fun evening and I'm sorry I got tacky! Que en paz descanse, Paco.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at February 26, 2014 09:14 PM (Pfvig)

1007 Night, Tammy.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 09:16 PM (ojnk6)

1008 Tongue (gyuutan )is a regular item at the japanese grill restaurants. Not my fav, but I'd much rather have it grilled than boiled or whatever.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at February 26, 2014 09:17 PM (xrX4n)

1009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaeg4Egwnz0

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 09:19 PM (PlzOe)

1010 Crank, if you can, grind underneath a little groove or two, so when you put new EPOXY it has something to hold onto. when done properly, there are brackets proxies into the granite that hold the sink. I see that about 20% of the time though, the tool to embed that bracket is expensive. Most installers just epoxy on a scrap of granite (or wood). Good luck.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 09:21 PM (ICgzA)

1011 1003 Cthulhu, everything I read when I researched undermount sinks in granite is that you use mounting clips to support it. Pre-existing from previous owners, so no idea who did it. Some of the hardware for some of the clips seems to be missing as well. I'll be supporting it with C-clamps and a 2x4 across the top of the counter for installation.

There were a few pieces of fiberboard around the periphery, but they don't look like they had any weightbearing responsibility except in the front, where the initial point of failure was. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 01:11 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

Our cabinetmaker (custom cabinets, so I could wedge 'em into our existing galley-kitchen footprint) built the sink cabinet to support the sink on wood instead of using brackets.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:22 PM (T1005)

1012 cthulhu, it's stainless. I can see why you would need a frame for cast-iron. chi, there are grooves in the granite already that the head of the bolt is supposed to sit in. It looks like the previous guy used silicone to secure them, I'm going to use DAP (or another brand) adhesive formulated for bonding metal to granite.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 09:26 PM (sQ0LB)

1013 It's on. @RT_com: MORE: Russian flag raised over Crimea parliament building http://t.co/61ClrQe5jp #Ukraine http://t.co/nS2ULnn7JH

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 09:26 PM (DmNpO)

1014 The wood gives you just enough compression to do the weight/caulk/dry/release trick. I shudder to think of using fiberboard for anything there.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:26 PM (T1005)

1015 When I said state attorney generals didn't have to follow the law, I didn't mean they could start enforcing immigration and ignoring Obamacare enforcement. Why do rayciss right wing hatemongers always twist everything?

Posted by: Judge Dredd Holder at February 26, 2014 09:27 PM (VyRoX)

1016 1012 Never much of a doubt this would go down. Sad to see though. Coming soon to a Country near you.....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 09:28 PM (ojnk6)

1017 @1012

Page doesn't exist. Have another link?

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 26, 2014 09:28 PM (nkPV9)

1018 1011 cthulhu, it's stainless. I can see why you would need a frame for cast-iron. chi, there are grooves in the granite already that the head of the bolt is supposed to sit in. It looks like the previous guy used silicone to secure them, I'm going to use DAP (or another brand) adhesive formulated for bonding metal to granite. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 01:26 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

Ah. That also explains why you weren't complaining about it being embedded in your floor.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:30 PM (T1005)

1019 cthulhu, IIRC you leave a gap while applying the caulk and then ratchet the brackets up a little tighter on ce done. The info I got came from homeguides dot SFgate dot com.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 09:33 PM (sQ0LB)

1020 crimea seems to be half Russian, but also home to nearly all of the Ukraine's muslims who were supporting the coup

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 09:36 PM (zOTsN)

1021 Page doesn't exist. Have another link? .... It appears that is pro-Russian forces, not actually Putin who has raised the flag.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 09:36 PM (DmNpO)

1022 Bottles, stones and flags flew in the air as thousands of pro- and anti-Russian demonstrators clashed in front of the parliament building in Simferopol, the capital of Ukraine's autonomous Crimea Region. Tension between the rival groups rallying next to one another intensified after hours of demonstrating, with people wielding Russian, Ukrainian, Crimean and Crimean Tatar flags getting involved in clashes. Demonstrators slammed each other with flags and threw stones as leaders on both sides urged their followers to avoid provocations. On Wednesday evening, local MP Mustafa Dzhemilev said that during the clashes two people died - a man of a heart attack and a woman who was trampled by the crowd. At least 30 people have been injured in the clashes, six of whom were hospitalized, the Crimean Health Ministry reported. Three of them remain in severe state while the other three suffered moderate injuries. Most people were admitted with head and abdominal injuries.

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 09:38 PM (zOTsN)

1023 The rival groups are protesting for and against the new national authorities in Kiev. Part of the residents proclaimed that Crimea are not going to obey Kiev, while the local Muslim community of Crimean Tatars expressed support for the new Ukrainian authorities. Two separate rallies, consisting of several thousands of protesters, faced each other on Wednesday. Russians shouted Â“Russia-Russia!Â” and Â“Berkut!Â”, the name of the special police task force disbanded yesterday by the new Ukrainian authorities, who blame them for heavy-handed policing of opposition activists in recent months in central Kiev. The Muslim community protesters were shouting Â“Ukraine-Ukraine!Â” and Â“Crimea is not Russia!Â” Pro-Russian demonstrators were holding Russian flags, while Tatars were holding Ukrainian flags and flags of their own nationalist organizations. Video footage from the scene appeared to show that both sides were preparing for a clash. Police officers attempted to separate the two sides. The police were unarmed except for rubber batons.

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 09:39 PM (zOTsN)

1024 1015 1012
Never much of a doubt this would go down. Sad to see though. Coming soon to a Country near you.....
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 27, 2014 01:28 AM (ojnk6) Hide posts from (ojnk6)

If the border with Russia is moved from Kerch to Armyansk, and Ukraine loses no other territory, it's probably not too horrible. Russia has always had the feeling that lack of a warm-water port was an existential threat, and losing Sevastopol would might drive them into doing something worse.

Then, again, we all know what happens when you start feeding the bear.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:39 PM (T1005)

1025 the Crimean Tartars are the muslims

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 09:40 PM (zOTsN)

1026 New link http://bit.ly/N5TMww

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 09:41 PM (DmNpO)

1027 617 Billet du Jamon

Ahem Ã§a serait "Portefeuille de Jambon"

Posted by: le Professeur at February 26, 2014 09:41 PM (AWwDY)

1028 1018 cthulhu, IIRC you leave a gap while applying the caulk and then ratchet the brackets up a little tighter on ce done. The info I got came from homeguides dot SFgate dot com. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 01:33 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

Sounds plausible -- it's the same trick with a different support mechanism. Don't stint on that caulk, though -- the more of the top face of the flange that is covered, the less likely anything unpleasant will get in there.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:41 PM (T1005)

1029 So thanks to RWC, I've been listening to a bunch of my old 1980's favorites. Have the ear buds in, didn't realize I was singing "Look Sharp" at the top of my lungs. Although I have a beautiful voice, I woke the dog up, and now he wants to play... Crank. - please don't use anything out of a tube. Get some commercial grade epoxy from the countertop place. They'll probably give you some. obviously, clean all surfaces really well before you start.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 09:42 PM (i7w5R)

1030 Surprised there are any Crimean tartars left after stalins deportations after WW2

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 26, 2014 09:43 PM (nkPV9)

1031 If the Russians absorb Crimea, they are also taking the vast majority of Ukrainian muslims who also fight with the Chechens

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 09:44 PM (zOTsN)

1032 As of 2012 an estimated 500,000 Muslims lived in Ukraine and about 300,000 of them were Crimean Tatars wiki

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 09:45 PM (zOTsN)

1033 First, thereÂ’s Aleksandr Muzychko a/k/a Sashko Bilyi. Head of the leading Ukrainian nationalist group, Right SectorÂ–the most prominent group in the Ukraine protests, he says heÂ’ll Â“fight Jews and Russians for as long as blood flowsÂ” in his veins. Back in 1994, Muzychko, aka Sashko Bilyi, arrived in Chechnya to join separatist forces. [DS: that means Muslims, including the Tsarnaeve Bros of Boston Marathon fame.] He took part in numerous battles with federal troops, mainly in the capital Grozny, and personally knocked out three tanks, six armored personnel carriers and a SP vehicle. According to media reports, he led an entire federal forces unit (presumably the marines) into an ambush. As a result, it was destroyed by the Chechen separatists. For his military merits, the notorious Chechen militant leader, general Dzhokhar Dudayev, presented Muzychko with a Â“Hero of the NationÂ” award. wow. Nazis and Islamafacists, fighting together sort of familiar

Posted by: thunderb at February 26, 2014 09:48 PM (zOTsN)

1034 I should point out that halfway between Kiev and the Crimea is the little town of Zaprorizhzhya.....which leads itself to remembering a painting in the Russian Museum of Saint Petersburg, and the (possibly propagandist, but amusing enough) story behind it -- http://tinyurl.com/2qamoh

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:48 PM (T1005)

1035 709 I said it last night... I understand where Spike is coming from. You don't even hear a NC twang in Chapel Hill anymore and these transplanted asshole liberal fucktards have just about destroyed the entire state.

And then there's teh Containment Area for Relocated Yankees aka Cary

Posted by: le Professeur at February 26, 2014 09:51 PM (AWwDY)

1036 Needless to say, the caulk I'm referring to is non-structural. The epoxy for the bolts is structural. Buy both accordingly.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:51 PM (T1005)

1037 1012 They're getting prettty frisky, but I bow to the collective wisdom of the horde. Also, I'm out. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 26, 2014 09:51 PM (ojnk6)

1038 who also fight with the Chechens

That seems like a pretty important detail that I'm just now hearing for the first time. And suddenly Obama's support for the coup becomes clear.

Posted by: Methos at February 26, 2014 09:52 PM (hO9ad)

1039 From Sochi, it's 272 miles (and 7 hrs) to get to Kerch, Ukraine (nearest point in Crimea), along the coast of the Black Sea.

Incidentally, does anyone else expect to find the Black Sea somewhere in Mordor?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 09:58 PM (T1005)

1040 And, if you aren't already familiar with the artwork referenced above....do check it out. They've long had a curious relationship with Islam around those parts.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:00 PM (T1005)

1041 Night all. I heard this song a long time ago, and could never figure out who it was by or what the song was, or even what the correct lyrics were. Chanced upon the video today. "The Metro" by Berlin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UXtort76gY

Posted by: The Political Hat at February 26, 2014 10:03 PM (AymDN)

1042 1023 1015
1012

If the border with Russia is moved from Kerch to Armyansk, and Ukraine loses no other territory, it's probably not too horrible.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 01:39 AM (T1005)

************

Cede Kerch to Russia?

Posted by: gracepmc at February 26, 2014 10:04 PM (rznx3)

1043 1040 Night all.

I heard this song a long time ago, and could never figure out who it was by or what the song was, or even what the correct lyrics were.

Chanced upon the video today.

"The Metro" by Berlin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UXtort76gY Posted by: The Political Hat at February 27, 2014 02:03 AM (AymDN) Hide posts from (AymDN)

Saw 'em in concert, with A Flock of Seagulls and The Fixx, in Santa Barbara.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:04 PM (T1005)

1044 @RT_com: DETAILS: About 30 gunmen shot at Crimea parliament doors, broke in, neutralized security - @interfax_news http://t.co/61ClrQe5jp #Ukraine

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 10:08 PM (DmNpO)

1045 Several Environmental Protection Agency employees obstructed an investigation into the mismanagement that allowed a senior EPA official to bilk taxpayers for nearly $900,000, the EPA Inspector General said in a letter to Sen. David Vitter (R., La.) released Wednesday.

EPA employees threatened Inspector General investigators, refused to cooperate, and handed out non-disclosure agreements to other employees to keep them from being interviewed, EPA Inspector General Arthur Elkins Jr. wrote in response to a request for information by Vitter on the case.

Â“Over the past 12 months, there have been several EPA officials who have taken action to prevent [the Office of Investigations] OI from conducting investigations or have attempted to obstruct investigations through intimidation,Â” Elkins wrote.

... I have 3 words for this ...

FIRE THEM ALL !!!

... and any of you al Qaeda types out there ... 1200 Pennsylvania Ave

Posted by: Jared Loughner at February 26, 2014 10:12 PM (e8kgV)

1046 Berlin was new wave before there was such thing as new wave.

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 26, 2014 10:12 PM (nkPV9)

1047 943 If we're listing Roman achievements, they trashed Gaul.

Not all of it!

Posted by: Astérix at February 26, 2014 10:12 PM (AWwDY)

1048 Cleanup at 1044.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 10:13 PM (sQ0LB)

1049 What? When did this all start up? @BBCBreaking: Scottish investment firm Standard Life says it may relocate parts of its business if Scotland votes for independence http://t.co/tSDXJsgdba

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 10:13 PM (DmNpO)

1050 Seen them in concert somewhere. Gimme awhile it has been over thirty years and those days are kinda hazy. Way too much to drink.

Posted by: GMB whowas the soldier sitting next to her. at February 26, 2014 10:14 PM (nkPV9)

1051 Not quite! There was one little village...

Posted by: Goscinny & Uderzo at February 27, 2014 12:47 AM (Em6d4)

Y sont fous ces Romans! (toc, toc)

Posted by: Obélix at February 26, 2014 10:14 PM (AWwDY)

1052 1041 1023
1015

1012

If the border with Russia is
moved from Kerch to Armyansk, and Ukraine loses no other territory,
it's probably not too horrible.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 01:39 AM (T1005)
************Cede Kerch to Russia?
Posted by: gracepmc at February 27, 2014 02:04 AM (rznx3) Hide posts from (rznx3)

The Crimean Peninsula (actually sort of an island between Kerch and Armyansk) has long been a central part of Russian thinking. Its leaders have their dachas there, Yalta is famous for the Yalta Conference, Sevastopol has a huge Russian Navy base, that has long been there. Right next to it is balaklava, for which the garment is named.

On the other hand, the rest of Russia treats the rest of Ukraine like they were castmembers from Hee-Haw. Bunch of grass-chewing hicks in the sticks wearing funny clothes with strange accents.

And there are two ways onto the Crimean Peninsula -- one from the Ukraine side and one from the Russian side.

So it makes a whole lot of sense for Putin to play for Crimea; a lot of sense that denying him Crimea would escalate things in a hurry; and a certain bit of relief that Ukraine could live without it. But, as noted, feeding bears is very dangerous.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:15 PM (T1005)

1053 NDH, the Scots have been talking about independence since before Longshanks--but if you mean recently, I think in the past decade or so. Not sure how the vote will go, but I don't think economically they have the juice to go it alone.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 10:15 PM (sQ0LB)

1054 And, you'll note, my analysis at 1051 didn't take into account the Crimean Tatars who actually live there. They may have more than a passing interest in the matter.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:19 PM (T1005)

1055 Cleanup at 1047.

Posted by: Jared Loughner at February 26, 2014 10:20 PM (e8kgV)

1056 1043 @RT_com: DETAILS: About 30 gunmen shot at Crimea parliament doors, broke in, neutralized security - @interfax_news http://t.co/61ClrQe5jp #Ukraine

Yeah, well, I'm seeing a lot of traffic that seems to be saying the folks in the building are calling themselves some sort of vanguard for the self-defense of the Russian-speaking citizens.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 26, 2014 10:20 PM (ZfBzk)

1057 The WSJ is reporting on Ukraine as well including a report from three hours ago that Putin had ordered 150k troops to exercises about 200 miles from Ukraine. http://on.wsj.com/1oOslWm

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 10:21 PM (DmNpO)

1058 The Scotts have a problem. If they vote for independence they automatically out of the EU.

Monetarily there is no way they can do that. They would be out on thier own and IIRC the EU has already said no to them because they would be an economic basket case.

Posted by: GMB whowas the soldier sitting next to her. at February 26, 2014 10:21 PM (nkPV9)

1059 Yeah, well, I'm seeing a lot of traffic that seems to be saying the folks in the building are calling themselves some sort of vanguard for the self-defense of the Russian-speaking citizens. .... Yes. It isn't Putin.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 10:22 PM (DmNpO)

1060 Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 02:15 AM (T1005)
********

I am aware. Thanks. I was curious as to your thinking is all. Clearly a deal for Putin and Russia -- and a compromise of sorts -- but Kerch seems to hold some Ukrainian historical and perhaps industrial significance as well.

As I said, just curious. Most likely it will be more bull in the China shop but who knows at this point.

Posted by: gracepmc at February 26, 2014 10:27 PM (rznx3)

1061 1057 The Scotts have a problem. If they vote for independence they automatically out of the EU. Monetarily there is no way they can do that. They would be out on thier own and IIRC the EU has already said no to them because they would be an economic basket case. .... @NewsBreaker: NEW: Royal Bank of Scotland, 81% owned by the taxpayer, announces annual pre-tax losses of Â£8.2 billion http://t.co/I8HFQOpMYO @itvnews

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2014 10:27 PM (DmNpO)

1062

@NewsBreaker: NEW: Royal Bank of Scotland, 81% owned by the taxpayer, announces annual pre-tax losses of Â£8.2 billion http://t.co/I8HFQOpMYO @itvnews

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 27, 2014 02:27 AM (DmNpO)

Pikers. The Fed does that in 3 days.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 10:28 PM (sQ0LB)

1063 1053 And, you'll note, my analysis at 1051 didn't take into account the Crimean Tatars who actually live there. They may have more than a passing interest in the matter.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 02:19 AM (T1005)

********

Indeed they might. They could make it messy.

Posted by: gracepmc at February 26, 2014 10:30 PM (rznx3)

1064 Grr. The hamsters and I aren't getting along tonight. They think everything I try to post looks like spam.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 26, 2014 10:30 PM (ZfBzk)

1065 When thinking about Scotland, it is helpful to remember that its capital, Edinburgh, is a port town on the East side of the country -- and Port Glasgow is a port town on the West side of the country.....and they're only 68 miles apart by road. While the total area of Scotland is about 30,000 square miles -- as compared to, say, LA County at 4,800 square miles, it's population is only about 5.3 million.....where LA County has 9.8 [and for those who know LA County, some of it is pretty damned sparse].

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:31 PM (T1005)

1066 Some folks just hold a grudge forever. Just cuz Lizbeth chopped off Mary's head, they all want to leave and say bye to the United kingdom.

Bummer there Aye?

Posted by: GMB whowas the soldier sitting next to her. at February 26, 2014 10:31 PM (nkPV9)

1067 1053 Cleanup at 1047. Posted by: Jared Loughner at February 27, 2014 02:20 AM (e8kgV) Hide posts from (e8kgV)

Ah, but his worked.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:32 PM (T1005)

1068 1030 who also fight with the Chechens

Speaking of which, I see some folks quoting the head of the Chechen Republic saying "We are read to be peacekeepers and soldiers in Ukraine".

Can't quote because the hamsters hate me.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 26, 2014 10:32 PM (ZfBzk)

1069 Can't quote because the hamsters hate me.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2014 02:32 AM (ZfBzk)

Well quit typing about buying laptop batteries while wearing a lace wig and ug g boots then.

Posted by: buzzion at February 26, 2014 10:35 PM (LI48c)

1070
Well quit typing about buying laptop batteries while wearing a lace wig and ug g boots then.

Posted by: buzzion at February 27, 2014 02:35 AM (LI48c)

i miss lace wigs and Le bouton handbags. the world has gone to hell without them, and i'm sure they know what to do.

Posted by: gushka can has Kittys what plays fetch! at February 26, 2014 10:38 PM (f858s)

1071 To further expound on the subject of "tiny": Rhode Island -- population 1M, area 1200 sq miles; Maine -- pop 1.3M, area 35K. So Scotland is about 6/7 the size of Maine, and has about 4x as many people.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:39 PM (T1005)

1072 Gushka!

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:40 PM (T1005)

1073

Ah, but his worked.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 02:32 AM (T1005)

Indeed. Didn't quite recognize the hash, and references to terrorists and federal offices don't sit particularly well with me, or those who summon TB3K.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 10:41 PM (sQ0LB)

1074 Heya Gushka.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 10:41 PM (sQ0LB)

1075
i miss lace wigs and Le bouton handbags. the world has gone to hell without them, and i'm sure they know what to do.

Posted by: gushka can has Kittys what plays fetch! at February 27, 2014 02:38 AM (f858s)

====

and now nobody gets a chance to weld their butt to their elbow.

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 10:45 PM (PlzOe)

1076 1070 Ah, but his worked.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 02:32 AM (T1005)

Indeed. Didn't quite recognize the hash, and references to terrorists and federal offices don't sit particularly well with me, or those who summon TB3K. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 02:41 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

They have a tendency to escalate, don't they? I don't know if I'd have pulled the trigger on that post, myself.....but I'd have had the safety off and the barrel pointed for the next one.....or the next one....or the next one.

Speaking of which -- THANK YOU TO THE MODERATOR ON DUTY!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:46 PM (T1005)

1077 ====and now nobody gets a chance to weld their butt to their elbow.
Posted by: jc at February 27, 2014 02:45 AM (PlzOe) Hide posts from (PlzOe)

Isn't that Machines For Sale?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 10:47 PM (T1005)

1078 1072 ====and now nobody gets a chance to weld their butt to their elbow.

In addition to which, my cat could use a good filtering.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 26, 2014 10:47 PM (ZfBzk)

1079 1049 Not quite! There was one little village... Posted by: Goscinny Uderzo at February 27, 2014 12:47 AM (Em6d4) Y sont fous ces Romans! (toc, toc) Posted by: ObÃ©lix at February 27, 2014 02:14 AM (AWwDY) ================== Now that's strange. Until I saw it Pixy-stripped in this citing I hadn't noticed that in my original sock the Ampersand actually showed up without any keyboard trickery of mine! Is the name field a Pixy-free Zone?

Posted by: &&&&&&&&&&&! at February 26, 2014 10:47 PM (Em6d4)

1080 cthulhu, never aim TB3K at any post you don't intend to destroy.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 10:48 PM (sQ0LB)

1081

>>Dah FUQ. Florida Georgia Line is Ohios???

I think they must be going off of youtube videos watched.

I know the guy that would cause that band / state matchup.

Posted by: PMRich at February 26, 2014 10:51 PM (KDUNf)

1082 1053 1043 @RT_com: DETAILS: About 30 gunmen shot at Crimea parliament doors, broke in, neutralized security - @interfax_news http://t.co/61ClrQe5jp #Ukraine Yeah, well, I'm seeing a lot of traffic that seems to be saying the folks in the building are calling themselves some sort of vanguard for the self-defense of the Russian-speaking citizens. Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2014 02:20 AM (ZfBzk) ========= Yeah, and the Serbians claimed they were merely proactively protecting their fellows living in the lands that Croatia snatched away with their move for independence. Spit.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at February 26, 2014 10:51 PM (Em6d4)

1083 I liked it when the Battery bot grew sentient AI before our very eyes

Posted by: The Dude at February 26, 2014 10:52 PM (bStrg)

1084 If I took a load of manure to Springfield and dumped it on the steps of the Capitol Building, could that be construed as an act of terrorism these days?

Posted by: GMB who was the soldier sitting next to her. at February 26, 2014 10:54 PM (nkPV9)

1085 1075 1072
====and now nobody gets a chance to weld their butt to their elbow.

In addition to which, my cat could use a good filtering.

Posted by: Anachronda at February 27, 2014 02:47 AM (ZfBzk)

====

and my sister makes eleventy bazillion dollars an hour doing some weird shit in a manner no one can figger out.

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 10:57 PM (PlzOe)

1086 In the last few years, itÂ’s become increasingly clear that food companies engineer hyperprocessed foods in ways precisely geared to most appeal to our tastes. This technologically advanced engineering is done, of course, with the goal of maximizing profits, regardless of the effects of the resulting foods on consumer health, natural resources, the environment or anything else.

But the issues go way beyond food, as the City University of New York professor Nicholas Freudenberg discusses in his new book, Â“Lethal but Legal: Corporations, Consumption, and Protecting Public Health.Â” FreudenbergÂ’s case is that the food industry is but one example of the threat to public health posed by what he calls Â“the corporate consumption complex,Â” an alliance of corporations, banks, marketers and others that essentially promote and benefit from unhealthy lifestyles.

It sounds creepy; it is creepy. But itÂ’s also plain to see. Yes, itÂ’s unlikely thereÂ’s a cabal that sits down and asks, Â“How can we kill more kids tomorrow?Â” But Freudenberg details how six industries Â— food and beverage, tobacco, alcohol, firearms, pharmaceutical and automotive Â— use pretty much the same playbook to defend the sales of health-threatening products. This playbook, largely developed by the tobacco industry, disregards human health and poses greater threats to our existence than any communicable disease you can name.

All of these industries work hard to defend our Â“rightÂ” Â— to smoke, feed our children junk, carry handguns and so on Â— as matters of choice, freedom and responsibility. Their unified line is that anything that restricts those Â“rightsÂ” is un-American.

... the seemingly-cute Keebler elves were unavailable for comment

Posted by: Jared Loughner at February 26, 2014 10:57 PM (e8kgV)

1087 1081 If I took a load of manure to Springfield and dumped it on the steps of the Capitol Building, could that be construed as an act of terrorism these days?

Posted by: GMB who was the soldier sitting next to her. at February 27, 2014 02:54 AM (nkPV9)

====

at the typical Capitol building that is either one day's work or a lunch buffet.

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 10:57 PM (PlzOe)

1088 I was going to claim that it was my donation to the state donkyrat party. Try to take it off my taxes.

What a load of poop right?

Posted by: GMB who was the soldier sitting next to her. at February 26, 2014 11:00 PM (nkPV9)

1089 And, it's back with a new hash...

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 11:07 PM (i7w5R)

1090 New Corolla podcast features Mike Rowe.

Posted by: garrett at February 26, 2014 11:08 PM (3HHY5)

1091 What a load of poop right?

Posted by: GMB who was the soldier sitting next to her. at February 27, 2014 03:00 AM (nkPV9)

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which is why I am starting the "Knobs" party. The actual spelling is noBS.

We Knobs have a platform that describes all the things we are for and against. We are actually Pro- nothing at all. And, we are opposed to just one thing, which happens to be summed up by the spelling our name.

Oddly enough, in opposing that one thing, it turns out we are opposed to every known politician, 94.3% of all bureaucrats, and 99.789% of all members of the media.

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 11:08 PM (PlzOe)

1092

Mr. Loughner,

You lost me when you wanted to take away my 2nd Amendment rights.

You left sanity behind when you said drug companies are a bigger threat to life and limb than disease. Are you familiar with Spanish flu, or perhaps the Black Death?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 11:08 PM (sQ0LB)

1093 chi, it's actually the same hash.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 11:10 PM (sQ0LB)

1094 1089- oooh, let me go make some popcorn.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 11:14 PM (i7w5R)

1095 Gotcha, Crank. I saw the original post before I took the doggie out back, then it was blasted when I logged back on. I just assumed... Garrett - thanks for the heads up! I've never listened to any of his podcasts, but I know his stuff. I'm sure that will be a good one.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 11:20 PM (i7w5R)

1096 chi, I'm waiting to hear the explanation of how Merck is going to wipe out half of Europe in a generation. Pass some of that popcorn, please.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 11:20 PM (sQ0LB)

1097 Morning all.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 26, 2014 11:20 PM (TGgNi)

1098 #1058

I was reading a history of Enron last week. That other bank mentioned, NatWest, was a big player in enabling the shenanigans there.

I also note the story above on that site says one of the big pension and savings outfits, Standard Life, is ready to split from Scotland if it goes independent. If I were in their position I'd have already taken measures to make sure no physical assets were stuck in the region and everything else could be shifted to live in different servers with just a few commands.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 26, 2014 11:22 PM (bPxS6)

1099 I wonder if there is a glitch in TB3K? To see the same hash return after a banning is new to me.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 11:22 PM (sQ0LB)

1100 Ah, look who's back...

All of these industries work hard to defend our Â“rightÂ” Â— to smoke, feed our children junk, carry handguns and so on Â— as matters of choice, freedom and responsibility. Their unified line is that anything that restricts those Â“rightsÂ” is un-American.

... the seemingly-cute Keebler elves were unavailable for comment Posted by: Jared Loughner at February 27, 2014 02:57 AM (e8kgV) Hide posts from (e8kgV)

Y'know, like many of the best lies, this one starts off with a kernel of truth. Yes, there are industries that abuse the hell out of their customers.

But, in the classic manner of the Big Lie, the explanation reverses cause-and-effect and prescribes a "cure" that is actually the most significant driving factor behind the "disease" -- government regulation, especially in collusion with the regulated, AKA "regulatory capture".

The six industries mentioned, "food and beverage, tobacco, alcohol, firearms, pharmaceutical and automotive," are among the most over-regulated portions of our economy....and the cure is to regulate them further? The ATF is responsible for half of them at the Federal level -- does anyone, anyone at all, think the agency responsible for Fast-and-Furious should be tasked with anything besides clearing out their desks?

These industries got that way because regulations trumped traditional product law; because bureaucracy won out over transparency; because over-control created a culture of gaming the system; and because money better spent improving products was more profitably spent buying legislators or regulators.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 11:26 PM (T1005)

1101 *passes some of chi's popcorn to cthulhu*

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 11:30 PM (sQ0LB)

1102 1093Â chi, I'm waiting to hear the explanation of how Merck is going to wipe out half of Europe in a generation. Pass some of that popcorn, please. Posted by:Â Conservative CrankÂ at February 27, 2014 03:20 AM (sQ0LB) _____________ Extra butter? I saw your post & thought to myself "who better to take this on?" And yeah - that's why I just assumed it was a new hash. I thought once the hammer came down, that is The End.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 11:31 PM (i7w5R)

1103 Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 03:26 AM (T1005)

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please. you are confusing the poor dear.

he/she/it/sheee-it came here to throw out some morsels to the knuckle dragging subhuman rethugs so they could agree with a person who chose the name of a mentally defective murderer.

how will the poor dear feel superior to you if you won't play along?

Posted by: jc at February 26, 2014 11:34 PM (PlzOe)

1104 1098 *passes some of chi's popcorn to cthulhu* Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 03:30 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

Thanks. *munch* *munch* It is a perpetual wonder to me that Statists feel their overriding wonderfulness means that they should never be taken to task for creating the misery they perpetually whinge about.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 11:35 PM (T1005)

1105 Related: http://tinyurl.com/mnl2xez

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 11:37 PM (T1005)

1106

No reply from Mr Loughner?

I was just getting my own pop-corn so I could sit back and watch the 3-C's have some fun.

Posted by: PMRich at February 26, 2014 11:38 PM (KDUNf)

1107

cthulhu, the epidemic superbug is the nightmare scenario for the CDC. However, it will not be the fault of the FDA, big Pharma, or any other single entity. They will contribute, sure, but the biggest enemies are the physicians who overprescribed antibiotics and the patients who were not compliant in finishing the course of treatment.

Arrowsmith may prove prophetic after all--the Russians supposedly have pretty good success with phage therapy.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 11:39 PM (sQ0LB)

1108 And note well -- Obamacare is starting to rack up the body count that everyone besides its goosestepping supporters accurately foresaw.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 11:39 PM (T1005)

1109

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 03:37 AM (T1005)

Simpsons did it better. "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all life's problems!"

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 11:42 PM (sQ0LB)

1110 Cth, Jerry actually said that??? I don't feel so despondent with McAuliffe over here anymore. And I'm thinking with the next couple years in front of us, maybe I should invest in popcorn futures.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 26, 2014 11:47 PM (/Wi/Y)

1111 1105 That reminds me of something from an Epidemics history class from college. The professor mentioned that during the early days of using penicillin for syphilis, doctors had a choice in how they wanted to administer the drug. Either give people pills to take on a schedule and trust them to keep to the schedule, or give them one giant (painful) shot in the ass. The professor said that this was a example of a racial component in treatment since many doctors gave white people the pills, but gave the shot to minorities. Personally, from what I have seen of people (of any race) I would have given everyone the giant shot in the ass.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 26, 2014 11:50 PM (TGgNi)

1112 1105 cthulhu, the epidemic superbug is the nightmare scenario for the CDC. However, it will not be the fault of the FDA, big Pharma, or any other single entity. They will contribute, sure, but the biggest enemies are the physicians who overprescribed antibiotics and the patients who were not compliant in finishing the course of treatment.

Arrowsmith may prove prophetic after all--the Russians supposedly have pretty good success with phage therapy. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 03:39 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

Dispersing blame among several entities doesn't lessen the blame, it taints both the entities and the system that surrounds them. And, hey, I've seen that phage stuff -- pretty keen, right? -- can you legally do that here in the US? Will it fit into an FDA study? Can it become an OTC product here?

Once it was known that patients weren't taking their prescription antibiotics properly, were there mandatory protocols put in place to mitigate that? Were, for instance, some antibiotics restricted to time-release subcutaneous administration? No? Well I guess MRSA ain't such a big problem compared to the billions of dollars of bureaucrat salaries that our current regime has spawned.

And, by the way, while we're talking about overprescribed antibiotics, is there a reason that the FDA has been so complacent about the massive use of antibiotics in livestock? A lot of that genetic material conferring resistance to antibiotic XXX probably originated in a pork chop -- and I doubt many MDs were monitoring the care of random sows.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 11:51 PM (T1005)

1113

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 27, 2014 03:50 AM (TGgNi)

Nowadays, everyone gets the shot. Many people, particularly those with STDs, have no concept of rational self interest.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 11:52 PM (sQ0LB)

1114 1108 Cth,
Jerry actually said that??? I don't feel so despondent with McAuliffe over here anymore.

And I'm thinking with the next couple years in front of us, maybe I should invest in popcorn futures. Posted by: shredded chi at February 27, 2014 03:47 AM (/Wi/Y) Hide posts from (/Wi/Y)

It's got links. He actually did.

Back in the days when he was Governor Moonbeam, people outside of California didn't realize (1) he actually was pretty bright, and (2) he had just been schooled by the Jesuits -- he was driven by honor as well as ideology. Unfortunately, this round, he's just a Dem hack.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 26, 2014 11:54 PM (T1005)

1115

To your note about regulations

Every industry in the USofA is now regulated to the point that a gov't official can come in at any time and find something that is a violation.

This is just the commercial / industrial version of the over regulation that we as a nation are under as individuals also.

ex. Many moons ago I used to make toilet paper. Despite the fact that this product was going to be used on your nasty dirty ass then thrown into the toilet (except in Russia) for disposal, we had to follow all of the same reg's as a food plant.

Now I understand that you want to ensure that nothing bad is in a product that will be in intimate contact with your nether regions, but food plant reg's is a little bit of overkill.

Posted by: PMRich at February 26, 2014 11:57 PM (KDUNf)

1116

Cthulhu, those antibiotics in livestock aren't even prescribed in many cases, AFAIK. I do know that I can walk into tractor supply whether a doctor or dumb as a doornail and walk out with an armload of vaccines for my animals.

What you're talking about with the antibiotics, I think, is what we call DOT, direct observed therapy, and it's how TB has been treated for decades in this country. Of course, the incidence of active TB in the population is quite low. Try having someone monitor every dose of antibiotics for ear infections in even a small city.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 26, 2014 11:57 PM (sQ0LB)

1117 1111 I actually wondered about that. Makes sense.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 26, 2014 11:57 PM (TGgNi)

1118 Interesting factoid. Penicillin is the only drug approved for treatment of syphillis in pregnant women. If she has a life-threatening allergy to penicillin, they will actuallly desensitize her and then give her the shots of penicillin.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:00 AM (sQ0LB)

1119 1114 To your note about regulations
Every industry in the USofA is now regulated to the point that a gov't official can come in at any time and find something that is a violation.

This is just the commercial / industrial version of the over regulation that we as a nation are under as individuals also.

ex. Many moons ago I used to make toilet paper. Despite the fact that this product was going to be used on your nasty dirty ass then thrown into the toilet (except in Russia) for disposal, we had to follow all of the same reg's as a food plant.
Now I understand that you want to ensure that nothing bad is in a product that will be in intimate contact with your nether regions, but food plant reg's is a little bit of overkill. Posted by: PMRich at February 27, 2014 03:57 AM (KDUNf) Hide posts from (KDUNf)

Yeah, well -- Gibson Guitars can tell you a thing or two about that.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:00 AM (T1005)

1120 Yeah, well -- Gibson Guitars can tell you a thing or two about that.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 04:00 AM (T1005)

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It's a well known fact that you should never wipe your ass with any part of a Gibson guitar.

Posted by: jc at February 27, 2014 12:02 AM (PlzOe)

1121 1117 So my guess is that any other treatment has so many possible side effects that the penicillin is still seen as the best choice, even with the allergy? Kind of makes you wonder about the other side effects.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 27, 2014 12:02 AM (TGgNi)

1122 OTOH, a lot of what is wrong with CA today was initiated under Brown in his first time as Governor. Public employee unions is a biggie.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 12:03 AM (bPxS6)

1123

The other treatments are all toxic to the unborn baby.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:04 AM (sQ0LB)

1124 The sound of the rain outside is comforting in one way but I'm not looking forward to going out to El Monte in the morning.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 12:06 AM (bPxS6)

1125 1115 Cthulhu, those antibiotics in livestock aren't even prescribed in many cases, AFAIK. I do know that I can walk into tractor supply whether a doctor or dumb as a doornail and walk out with an armload of vaccines for my animals.

What you're talking about with the antibiotics, I think, is what we call DOT, direct observed therapy, and it's how TB has been treated for decades in this country. Of course, the incidence of active TB in the population is quite low. Try having someone monitor every dose of antibiotics for ear infections in even a small city. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 03:57 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

What I'm talking about is an atmosphere of collusion between Pharma and the FDA, where neither one has acted responsibly in the public interest, and where existing drugs have been misused into uselessness, drugs in the pipeline have been ratcheted to obscenely high price points and low availability, and where entire classes of therapies have been shunted off to foreign research facilities.....and which leave us potentially vulnerable to the next Spanish Flu or Black Death.

Which you, by the way, will probably get because you won't abandon your post and run off to some quarantine station out in nowheresville.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:08 AM (T1005)

1126 You guys finally getting some rain?

Posted by: PMRich at February 27, 2014 12:10 AM (KDUNf)

1127 Yeah, well -- Gibson Guitars can tell you a thing or two about that.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 04:00 AM (T1005)

I bought one of the commemorative " government series" Flying V's they made with the returned wood. The guitar is stellar. I was going to stash it, but its downright possessed, so its going to get played. It was a great idea to make that series, a nice fuck you to papa doc obama.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 27, 2014 12:12 AM (FMbng)

1128

Which you, by the way, will probably get because you won't abandon your post and run off to some quarantine station out in nowheresville.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 04:08 AM (T1005)

On the bright side, I won't have to watch the descent into barbarism that would make the Visigoths shudder--because when the sheeple realize that their very existence is at stake, they will find nothing is beneath them.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:15 AM (sQ0LB)

1129

and where entire classes of therapies have been shunted off to foreign research facilities.....

Another issue is the foreign manufacture of so many of the drugs. Do you really want to trust the drugs manufactured in India from raw materials sourced in China? Well, that's what you're getting.

We are over regulated, they are hard to monitor ....

Posted by: PMRich at February 27, 2014 12:15 AM (KDUNf)

1130 In case anyone wonders....yes, I do have a solution. It may be politically infeasible, but it would solve the problem.

First, the existing FDA would be split in two and privatized, yielding FDA1 and FDA2. Second, rules would be set forth as a framework to create FDA3, FDA4, and so forth, with private capital.

Third, every producer of food or drugs would need to be licensed by one of the FDAs before engaging in interstate commerce.

And, fourth....and most important....any FDA that doesn't retain the public trust is allowed to go insolvent. Its final salaries unpaid, its pensions unfunded, its officers discredited, and its workers unemployed.

Eventually, such a scheme would probably devolve into rival meatpacking FDAs, rival drug FDAs, rival dairy FDAs, etc. -- which would be all to the good, in that each would gain expertise in its subject area and would learn to be more efficient lest its producer base defect to the other.....and, of course, if FDA(cheese)1 had a bad outbreak leading to a huge recall, it could go bust, leaving FDA(cheese)2 some windfall profit before FDA(cheese)3 stepped in.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:20 AM (T1005)

1131 "Yo have nothing to fear from excessive government regulation and control."--Sh*t 30 million dead Chinese never said, Vol. 1.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:21 AM (sQ0LB)

1132 I know I'm late getting back to this one, but - antibiotics & the average idiot: Just last year, I ripped the knuckle off of my right ring finger while remodeling the in-laws' bathroom. I wrapped it up tight with tape & kept working , as a non-insured dude does.. the ex's mom sees the blood & bandage, eventually sees the wound - you need stitches! "No insurance, can't afford it . I'll be O.K." "Well, here - at least take these antibiotics with you. I have plenty left over." That's only one example - I know plenty of smart people that act stupidly when it comes to this.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 27, 2014 12:24 AM (/Wi/Y)

1133 A lot of the cost of newer drugs is beyond the FDA's control or even influence. The problem is that we're the only developed or semi-developed nation that respects the right of drug developers to realize a profit on their investment. One of my blood pressure meds is absurdly higher in daily cost than it would be if the typical European were paying a reasonable market rate rather than the price the EU nations receive after threatening to simply ignore the patents and contract somebody else to produce the item. As a result, if the originator and its licensees hope to enjoy any decent profits before the patent period ends, they have to charge a lot more than if the pool of properly paying customers were what it should be.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 12:24 AM (bPxS6)

1134 1127 Which you, by the way, will probably get because you won't abandon your post and run off to some quarantine station out in nowheresville.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 04:08 AM (T1005)

On the bright side, I won't have to watch the descent into barbarism that would make the Visigoths shudder--because when the sheeple realize that their very existence is at stake, they will find nothing is beneath them. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 04:15 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

I do not envy you, my friend. You are enmeshed in a great web of evil, and it's only going to get harder and more complicated (not to mention dangerous) to do good.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:24 AM (T1005)

1135 1132 A lot of the cost of newer drugs is beyond the FDA's control or even influence. The problem is that we're the only developed or semi-developed nation that respects the right of drug developers to realize a profit on their investment. One of my blood pressure meds is absurdly higher in daily cost than it would be if the typical European were paying a reasonable market rate rather than the price the EU nations receive after threatening to simply ignore the patents and contract somebody else to produce the item. As a result, if the originator and its licensees hope to enjoy any decent profits before the patent period ends, they have to charge a lot more than if the pool of properly paying customers were what it should be.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 04:24 AM (bPxS6) Hide posts from (bPxS6)

It'd be a helluva lot easier to take a profit and let things go generic if the cost of FDA regulation didn't keep rising -- http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/fda_05.htm

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:28 AM (T1005)

1136

Cthulhu, for all the bitching and moaning, us docs still have it pretty good. For better (probably) the AMA will be gutted as a lobbyist thanks to its support of Obamacare. But that means there's even less to balance against the damn trial lawyer lobby...

Any doc with a moral compass will not allow harm to come to his patients if he can stop it. Of course, with all the TWAs that Obamacare wants to bring in, it may be a moral minority in the future...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:31 AM (sQ0LB)

1137 #1083

Althouse dissect the nonsense quoted:
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2014/02/did-you-know-theres-corporate.html

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 12:32 AM (bPxS6)

1138 Several years back, I was looking at a possible job as Controller of a company that made software to track FDA testing -- and even that involved a ridiculous amount of money.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:33 AM (T1005)

1139 A lot of the cost of newer drugs is beyond the FDA's control or even influence. The problem is that we're the only developed or semi-developed nation that respects the right of drug developers to realize a profit on their investment. One of my blood pressure meds is absurdly higher in daily cost than it would be if the typical European were paying a reasonable market rate rather than the price the EU nations receive after threatening to simply ignore the patents and contract somebody else to produce the item. As a result, if the originator and its licensees hope to enjoy any decent profits before the patent period ends, they have to charge a lot more than if the pool of properly paying customers were what it should be.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 04:24 AM (bPxS6)

Major truth there. The wife works for one of the big pharms, and thats exactly the shit she tells me. Other countries basically threaten the pharm makers and extort the drugs from them cheap. THEN...Then they have the balls to sell the shit back to consumers here at a reduced price because they got them cheap, and it undercuts the companies here yet again.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 27, 2014 12:36 AM (FMbng)

1140 1135 Cthulhu, for all the bitching and moaning, us docs still have it pretty good. For better (probably) the AMA will be gutted as a lobbyist thanks to its support of Obamacare. But that means there's even less to balance against the damn trial lawyer lobby...

Any doc with a moral compass will not allow harm to come to his patients if he can stop it. Of course, with all the TWAs that Obamacare wants to bring in, it may be a moral minority in the future... Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 04:31 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

In other words, "*ribbit* it's nice and warm."

How 'bout those cancer patients whose meds just dropped out of the formulary, while their doctor was fraudulently included as an in-plan physician? What's the plan for avoiding harm to those patients? This whole scheme is designed to have you "Kneel before Zod" sooner or later.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:40 AM (T1005)

1141 I bought one of the commemorative " government series" Flying V's they made with the returned wood. The guitar is stellar. I was going to stash it, but its downright possessed, so its going to get played. It was a great idea to make that series, a nice fuck you to papa doc obama. ________ Wait, what? We have an Albert King fan in the house? Were you born under a bad sign? Play the thing. Wear it out. and yes, it was a great move by Gibson to make that line.

Posted by: shredded chi at February 27, 2014 12:42 AM (/Wi/Y)

1142 I am soooooo going to regret staying up this late.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:44 AM (T1005)

1143 1141 I am soooooo going to regret staying up this late.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 04:44 AM (T1005)

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take good care of yourself. and you might want to consider pondering something cheerful soon.

Posted by: jc at February 27, 2014 12:49 AM (PlzOe)

1144 Cthulhu, that's why I have a backup plan. Woods, some good tools and firearms, live off the land if I have to.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:50 AM (sQ0LB)

1145

Elder one, just wait until you're on Eastern time...suddenly 7 or 8 hours on the ONT has you racing to go to sleep before sunrise.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:51 AM (sQ0LB)

1146 1144 Elder one, just wait until you're on Eastern time...suddenly 7 or 8 hours on the ONT has you racing to go to sleep before sunrise. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 04:51 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

I know....I might have to learn how to associate with daywalkers or something.

I even considered heading West, but the People's Republic of Choomsters is out of the question, and Guam might tip over.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 12:56 AM (T1005)

1147 #1134

Technology has made us very good at developing novel molecules to test for medical applications but not so much for predicting the effects without real world trials. Everybody wants the treatment but doesn't want to be a guinea pig. No easy answers. Testing extensively is really expensive but so is litigation.

My brother is a very healthy sort, far more so than me, largely because he is very active and would have to be strapped down to forced him to retain enough calories to ever get fat. But he did have a lot of accumulated injuries due to his activities, with crashing dirt bikes and attacking trees while skiing among his favorites. So, to deal with the pain, he was given a prescription for Vioxx. Six months after his insurer gave him a discount for being in such terrific condition for his age, he had a heart attack. In that short span he'd acquired a 90% blockage.

The revelations that came out later made it clear Vioxx should never have been approved for wide use. It worked great for its label purpose but carried dire consequences. The concern here wasn't that the FDA process was costly but that it failed to achieve its mission of protecting the citizenry from a product defect. There were humans involved and a lot of money involved, which frequently means someone or ones succumbs to the temptation to cheat. Better technology will help eventually but that is little comfort for those in need today.

There are improvements here and there. For instance, if this company succeeds, blood diagnostics will be greatly improved in terms of cost and reduced suffering.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2014/02/elizabeth-holmes-theranos/

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 12:59 AM (bPxS6)

1148 1141Â I am soooooo going to regret staying up this late. Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 04:44 AM (T1005) Well, you're still walking, right? And keeping your eye on the "big picture" as far as health? What's a couple hours of missed sleep?

Posted by: shredded chi at February 27, 2014 12:59 AM (/Wi/Y)

1149 1142 1141
I am soooooo going to regret staying up this late.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 04:44 AM (T1005)

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take good care of yourself. and you might want to consider pondering something cheerful soon.
Posted by: jc at February 27, 2014 04:49 AM (PlzOe) Hide posts from (PlzOe)

Reminds me of the guy who had a very serious and cautionary visit with his Primary Care Physician.....and who was spotted by the doctor a week later with a sexy babe on his arm knocking down toasts at a country club.

The doctor sidled up next to him in the crowd and whispered loudly, "What the hell do you think you're doing?!?"

The patient said, "just takin' your advice, doc -- you said to find a hot mama and be cheerful."

The physician replied, "What I said was, 'I've found a heart murmur, you need to be careful.'"

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 01:02 AM (T1005)

1150 1147 1141 I am soooooo going to regret staying up this late.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 04:44 AM (T1005)

Well, you're still walking, right? And keeping your eye on the "big picture" as far as health?
What's a couple hours of missed sleep? Posted by: shredded chi at February 27, 2014 04:59 AM (/Wi/Y) Hide posts from (/Wi/Y)

Didn't walk today -- it was raining. I know, wuss....and I didn't want to look like a flasher. I should be able to walk tomorrow, but Friday looks iffy.

And I allowed myself to get riled up....Obamacare is killing people -- people with lives and families. The FDA is a leading risk factor for the extinction of the human race. These people are all about their little pensions and fiefdoms and would rather ten million people die so they can wave their dick over a bunch of smokers or fat people and bend them to their will.

Hang on, I need to find a sack to breathe into......

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 01:08 AM (T1005)

1151 1146 #1134

Technology has made us very good at developing novel molecules to test for medical applications but not so much for predicting the effects without real world trials. Everybody wants the treatment but doesn't want to be a guinea pig. No easy answers. Testing extensively is really expensive but so is litigation.

My brother is a very healthy sort, far more so than me, largely because he is very active and would have to be strapped down to forced him to retain enough calories to ever get fat. But he did have a lot of accumulated injuries due to his activities, with crashing dirt bikes and attacking trees while skiing among his favorites. So, to deal with the pain, he was given a prescription for Vioxx. Six months after his insurer gave him a discount for being in such terrific condition for his age, he had a heart attack. In that short span he'd acquired a 90% blockage.

The revelations that came out later made it clear Vioxx should never have been approved for wide use. It worked great for its label purpose but carried dire consequences. The concern here wasn't that the FDA process was costly but that it failed to achieve its mission of protecting the citizenry from a product defect. There were humans involved and a lot of money involved, which frequently means someone or ones succumbs to the temptation to cheat. Better technology will help eventually but that is little comfort for those in need today.

There are improvements here and there. For instance, if this company succeeds, blood diagnostics will be greatly improved in terms of cost and reduced suffering.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2014/02/elizabeth-holmes-theranos/
Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 04:59 AM (bPxS6) Hide posts from (bPxS6)

The problem is that this sort of decision shouldn't be centralized at all. Subtle cost/benefit tradeoffs are the absolute worst sort to be legislated or regulated.....and practically all of medicine involves subtle cost/benefit tradeoffs.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 01:12 AM (T1005)

1152 cthulhu, we're a resilient species, try not to sweat it too much. A pandemic would be horrible, but it's unlikely to lead to extinction.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 01:16 AM (sQ0LB)

1153 And I allowed myself to get riled up....Obamacare is killing people -- people with lives and families. The FDA is a leading risk factor for the extinction of the human race. These people are all about their little pensions and fiefdoms and would rather ten million people die so they can wave their dick over a bunch of smokers or fat people and bend them to their will.

Hang on, I need to find a sack to breathe into......

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 05:08 AM (T1005)

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sometimes it is just rampant stupidity crossed with a large dose of idiotic pride. today I ran across a bunch of state bureaucrats that are misreading the state administrative code in the most pathetic manner --

they are arguing from their position of authority that the code as written deliberately describes a physical impossibility so that it can be interpreted that no water pipe is ever supposed to cross a sewer pipe anywhere.

and to get this position, they have to deliberately ignore the very next paragraph that describes all of the requirements for a water pipe to cross a sewer pipe.

so, they are construing a vague statement in a section about parallel pipelines to over-ride a detailed statement about crossing pipelines.

once the idiot showed his complete inability to read and think at the same time, he locked his pride into overdrive and won't budge.

30 years ago jobs would be on the line. now people just shrug and take it.

Posted by: jc at February 27, 2014 01:20 AM (PlzOe)

1154

How many of us are in poorer health now due to listening to the 'better health' suggestions for so many years.

Food pyramid - looks just like the diet they feed pigs to fatten them for market

Salt is bad for you - essential to your health, it's the excessive sodium in much of todays food that's the real issue

Eat margarine because butter is bad - margarine is made of almost entirely transfats, butter has fats that are natural and are better for you

and the list can go on and on...

Now, how many people are now taking medications to cure the problems that all of the above have created?

Posted by: PMRich at February 27, 2014 01:20 AM (KDUNf)

1155 Now, how many people are now taking medications to cure the problems that all of the above have created?

Posted by: PMRich at February 27, 2014 05:20 AM (KDUNf)

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not me. now I take medications to cause problems so high fat foods can cure them.

Posted by: jc at February 27, 2014 01:23 AM (PlzOe)

1156

Fortunately I don't take any meds. I don't exercise as much as I should, but that's mostly a product of my crazy schedule. So far have always had excellent BP and blood work.

If anything gets me, it will be this rapid rotation schedule

Posted by: PMRich at February 27, 2014 01:26 AM (KDUNf)

1157

Hoping that the new company will change our rotation to something a little more sane.

Friday they are going to roll out our benefits, will start on Apr 1

Posted by: PMRich at February 27, 2014 01:28 AM (KDUNf)

1158 shit hitting fan in Crimea Parliament seized, Russian flag raised Ousted PM Yanik releases statement, says he is still PM of Ukraine vows to fight to end.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 01:29 AM (ZPrif)

1159 1151 cthulhu, we're a resilient species, try not to sweat it too much. A pandemic would be horrible, but it's unlikely to lead to extinction. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 05:16 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

Nicely done.....I list three horrific scenarios, and you reply with "don't worry, the least probable of the three is pretty unlikely."

How's the Mrs. doing? Isn't this getting into the period where things "get real" (i.e. "quickening"), or am I jumping the gun? Is there a world record for a bunch of people saying "mazel tov" for a birth, so the Horde can try to beat it?

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 01:31 AM (T1005)

1160 bbc news has some of the news, Yanik's statements just breaking on twitter

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 01:31 AM (ZPrif)

1161 Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi Yanukovych from Russia: ✓Revolution is a mob/military coup ✓Crimea/South East should fight back ✓Russia, please help ✓I'm the President

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 01:33 AM (ZPrif)

1162 1160 Maxim Eristavi ‏@MaximEristavi
Yanukovych from Russia:
✓Revolution is a mob/military coup
✓Crimea/South East should fight back
✓Russia, please help
✓I'm the President Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 27, 2014 05:33 AM (ZPrif) Hide posts from (ZPrif)

Yeah, rotsa ruck with that, Yank the Crank......

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 01:34 AM (T1005)

1163 gotta go kids.

be happy, it's worth it.

Posted by: jc at February 27, 2014 01:35 AM (PlzOe)

1164 #1150

Well, that speaks to the core issue of government, doesn't it? What should it do and not do? How much is too much or not enough? And how much can a private organization's opinion be trusted?

One of the huge failures of private organizations that made the real estate bubble possible was the way ratings companies were compelled to give AAA ratings to completely crap MBS piles. (Something I hadn't heard until reading the book last week, Enron never had better than a BBB+ rating.) The problem there is most of the income for those companies was coming from the very entities whose offerings should have been rated as junk.

At the same time, nobody in the government regulatory agencies who interact with the ratings companies asked a simple question: how can a collection of suburban mortgages possibly merit a AAA rating? Has it become fashionable for multi-millionaires to live in the burbs among those of far lesser means? Unless those mortgages were all held by people who had the liquidity to pay off the balance on short notice, a AAA should simply have been inapplicable to this class of financial product.

This is a case where everybody in authority screwed up, because there was so much money to be made and so many political points to be scored for those who weren't to benefit financially. But such is human endeavor. We can do better but never avoid the problems entirely.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 01:38 AM (bPxS6)

1165

Cthulhu, it's some of that doctor dark humor.

She's not due until June, but we're well past quickening. I think she first felt him move by 16 weeks.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 01:42 AM (sQ0LB)

1166 872 Dude: Not clean enough. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 12:22 AM (sQ0LB) like you never stuck your tongue in a chick's ass before Posted by: The Dude at February 27, 2014 12:25 AM (bStrg) ... The look on my wife, then girlfriend's face, was priceless the one time I tried. ... What? Curiosity is a damned powerful thing, ok? She still married me. :-)

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at February 27, 2014 01:45 AM (7aJyE)

1167 1163 #1150

Well, that speaks to the core issue of government, doesn't it? What should it do and not do? How much is too much or not enough? And how much can a private organization's opinion be trusted?

One of the huge failures of private organizations that made the real estate bubble possible was the way ratings companies were compelled to give AAA ratings to completely crap MBS piles. (Something I hadn't heard until reading the book last week, Enron never had better than a BBB+ rating.) The problem there is most of the income for those companies was coming from the very entities whose offerings should have been rated as junk.

At the same time, nobody in the government regulatory agencies who interact with the ratings companies asked a simple question: how can a collection of suburban mortgages possibly merit a AAA rating? Has it become fashionable for multi-millionaires to live in the burbs among those of far lesser means? Unless those mortgages were all held by people who had the liquidity to pay off the balance on short notice, a AAA should simply have been inapplicable to this class of financial product.

This is a case where everybody in authority screwed up, because there was so much money to be made and so many political points to be scored for those who weren't to benefit financially. But such is human endeavor. We can do better but never avoid the problems entirely.
Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 05:38 AM (bPxS6) Hide posts from (bPxS6)

Again, you're confusing cause with effect. You're saying that people had good intentions and made mistakes when people had bad intentions and bought forbearance.

If you assume good intentions and mistakes, you allow for further regulation and attempted control.....where recognizing the the underlying fraud and regulatory buyoff means that you see the necessity of ruin. Anyone who issued a bad loan after coercing an assessor to rate it better needs to eat it. Anyone who assessed a property without recognizing neighbors' fraudulent comps needs to eat it. Anyone going into a property underwater on its actual fair market value needs to be foreclosed.....because that will ensure that the next 20 years will be run "on the square" by the survivors.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 01:48 AM (T1005)

1168 1164 Cthulhu, it's some of that doctor dark humor.

She's not due until June, but we're well past quickening. I think she first felt him move by 16 weeks. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 05:42 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

Squee!!

Have you felt him move, yet?

I am so excited for you both, and can hardly wait.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 01:54 AM (T1005)

1169 cthulhu, I have, though no really good kicks yet.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 02:00 AM (sQ0LB)

1170 John Ringo's zombie apocalypse series is something I've been reading this week. These are zombies of the '28 Days Later' murderous insanity by infectious disease variety. Ringo admits in his forward he had to get pretty out there to make the scenario come together, even with the zombie plague being a custom designed package. Such as having a virus with dual expressions, one to perpetuate the virus in flu-like form, and the second the 'zombie-maker' that becomes directly transmissible by bodily fluids such as saliva in a bite wound.

A good plague could likely knock down modern civilization for a good while but extinction is a big jump from there. Cities like New York or Chicago would be very vulnerable but the more spread out cities you find as you move West would be harder targets to achieve sufficient infection levels before response limited the rate of transmission.

Now if you came up with something that took like a year or more to go active with no symptoms prior to that...

I don't know how long Ringo intends to run with this series. I'm near the end of the second book and there has been no further development on the plot thread regarding who did this and why since the first half of the first book. Everything since then has been survivors forming a growing ocean bound community aboard ships, seeking to grow to the point where they can reclaim Guatanamo Bay and use its facilities to restart the vaccine production that had only produced a small volume before things went critical. Much of the survivor populace, including personnel on USN nuke subs, cannot actively participate in retaking the planet until they can be vaccinated.

Lots of gun porn, discussion on government structures and population levels. One of the leaders notes that a lot of the equipment they depend upon is unlikely to be in production again in their lifetimes, no matter how successful they are in wiping out the infected hordes on the land. Their will be a salvage driven economy for the knowable future and they can only seek to preserve as much knowledge of technology as possible against the day when there is enough security of resources and people to restart industry.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 02:02 AM (bPxS6)

1171 I don't get it. The ONT is up to nearly 1,200 comments and nothing about boobies? It's all Scottish independence, vaccines and antibiotics? Well, good morning anyway.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 02:04 AM (SMd3b)

1172 Sh*t, he's right, no discussino of scotch either. I wouldn't mind liberating a few fingers' worth from the oppression of the bottle.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 02:09 AM (sQ0LB)

1173 1168 cthulhu, I have, though no really good kicks yet. Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 06:00 AM (sQ0LB) Hide posts from (sQ0LB)

Funny how you can know all about life and biology, and yet marvel with your partner at a creation that you two have sparked, ain't it?

I suspect that Mrs. Crank can well do without "good kicks", but glad that young Crank is letting himself be known.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 02:11 AM (T1005)

1174 #1166

No, not at all. That people will seek to cheat and scam is a given. The regulatory agencies would have no reason to exist otherwise, and the role of the ratings companies would be far reduced. (If men were angels...) If anything, people whose effectiveness relies on the expectation that anyone they're scrutinizing is up to no good until proven otherwise failed in that function.

One problem several writers have noted, is the regulators are composed of people who either lack the qualifications to understand the scams (Harry Markoplis ran into this a lot when trying to expose Bernie Madoff), or those who have the qualifications but are hoping for much more lucrative employment at the companies in question and are thus sorely averse to angering a Goldman Sachs or Bear Stearns.

It's an inherent problem with any variety of cop, whether they're looking for crime on the streets, or sky scraper corner offices, or pharmaceutical labs.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 02:12 AM (bPxS6)

1175 OK, guys -- I mean it. I need to somehow do two walks between the raindrops tomorrow, so I'm sackin' it.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 02:16 AM (T1005)

1176 In the second of Ringo's zombie series, there is a funny argument in which a French lawyer is angry that the flotilla is planning to retake the US before any other major land mass. Part of the reply is that their reliance on salvage makes the land of the gun nuts the best place to take on as resupply should be far easier than anyplace else.

Posted by: Epobirs at February 27, 2014 02:16 AM (bPxS6)

1177 cthulhu, she loves the kicks. She was checking his heartbeat daily with a doppler device until he started moving regularly. I find the paranoia endearing, most of the time.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 02:16 AM (sQ0LB)

1178 "Yeah, and the Serbians claimed they were merely proactively protecting their fellows living in the lands that Croatia snatched away with their move for independence. Spit.

Posted by: Sister Sestina at February 27, 2014 02:51 AM (Em6d4)"

After 9/11/01 I have been inclined to rethink my previous opinions of Serbian behavior, particularly towards the Religion of Peace.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 27, 2014 02:31 AM (PD6iL)

1179

Releae the Vic!!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at February 27, 2014 02:36 AM (sQ0LB)

1180 There's nothing better than a baby in utero; no diapers, no running to the store for formula in the dead of night, no waking at all hours. God bless the little guy, and keep Mrs. Crank well cared for. Just remember, the 2 am feeding is a girls job.

Posted by: MTF at February 27, 2014 02:36 AM (SMd3b)

1181 Good morning all
I see we didn't get the record setting low temps overnight that they were concerned about.

And two more orders of ammo just came out of "Back-ordered", and are meandering their way here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 27, 2014 02:49 AM (DPkKe)

1182 "If you assume good intentions and mistakes, you allow for further regulation and attempted control.....where recognizing the the underlying fraud and regulatory buyoff means that you see the necessity of ruin. Anyone who issued a bad loan after coercing an assessor to rate it better needs to eat it. Anyone who assessed a property without recognizing neighbors' fraudulent comps needs to eat it. Anyone going into a property underwater on its actual fair market value needs to be foreclosed.....because that will ensure that the next 20 years will be run "on the square" by the survivors.

Posted by: cthulhu at February 27, 2014 05:48 AM (T1005)"

Ah, but that is not really how the system worked, at least when I was working as a mortgage broker during a previous period of unemployment.

The whole mortgage industry was divided into separate entities and each one was trying to get their cut. Since everything was oriented around passing the hot potato on to the next entity, nobody really cared much about the viability of the loans since they were really just the raw material that was fed into the machine that produced sophisticated financial derivatives that magically transformed sub-prime mortgages into AAA low risk, high return paper that you are simply not clever enough to understand.

The thing is that all the smart people involved got their take out of it up front and that money has long since been spent on BMWs, whores and blow.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at February 27, 2014 02:50 AM (PD6iL)

1183 Allow me to mention that the morning thread has arrived

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 27, 2014 02:53 AM (DPkKe)

1184 So Sink thinks that "beaners" can only clean houses hotels and make beds? As an American of Mexican descent thats pretty damn insulting. I don't want any illegals here at all but to make a statement like that just shows how really bigoted the dems are.

Posted by: Coldwarrior57 at February 27, 2014 04:07 PM (rO5kl)

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