January 31, 2014
— CDR M
I still can't believe the GOP is actually trying to come up with an immigration deal (which does not make any sense) when they should be focusing on jobs which would win votes, at least from current U.S. citizens.
Whatever. It's Friday. Get a drink and dive right in to the ONT. Weaponized Flatulence
Holy cow. Ninety flatulent cows start fire at dairy farm in Germany.
Meanwhile, In Russia...
The Ultimate Meanwhile In Russia Compilation by worldwideinterweb
Police Sketch Artist
Seriously, how much money does a police sketch artist make 'cuz I think I can draw about as good as the above sketch. Man with the bowling ball for a head in police custody.
So You Want To Fly A Plane...
Pretty sweet camera footage but should not give you the sweats like those crazy Ukrainian dudes hanging by their fingertips from building ledges and cranes do.
Sharp Elbow Pic
I'm sure I'm guilty of harassment for posting an article about an Air Force First Lieutenant that is also a Seahawk Cheerleader. I think former Eagles cheerleader Rachel Washburn would beat Alicia though in hand to hand combat.
School Closure Map
I guess some areas of the south could've used this map before the big snow/ice storm hit. Map shows how much snow is needed in your state before it closes. I know here in the Hampton Roads area, my kids have missed 5 days of school from the last two snow storms.
Tactical Raptor
The world's first Tactical Raptor.
Dog Video
Tonight's ONT brought to you by 10 Canine Commandments:
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Posted by: Sharkman at January 31, 2014 05:52 PM (TM1p8)
Posted by: Peaches at January 31, 2014 05:52 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2014 05:52 PM (LsJl8)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 31, 2014 05:54 PM (itCai)
Posted by: Epobirs at January 31, 2014 05:55 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 31, 2014 05:55 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 05:55 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 31, 2014 05:55 PM (LrxQR)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 05:56 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2014 05:56 PM (LsJl8)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 05:58 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 05:59 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 31, 2014 05:59 PM (LrxQR)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 05:59 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 05:59 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 05:59 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 31, 2014 06:00 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 06:00 PM (HxSXm)
drink raised to joffen in this one
wish I'd stayed awake last night at least to say "hey I like mint oreos too" in the ONT. because I do like mint oreos. but not as much as I liked Joffen
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2014 06:00 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: --- at January 31, 2014 06:00 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 06:01 PM (aDwsi)
You could check the last thread or last night's ONT. And then say some prayers. We probably don't want to hijack this thread, it's done and there's no going back.
Posted by: Peaches at January 31, 2014 06:01 PM (8lmkt)
Joffen finally decided to end his pain last night. Pray for his soul and for all who knew Joffen.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 06:01 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 06:01 PM (GEICT)
http://tinyurl.com/nk2r6ge
People Who Died The Jim Carroll Band
Posted by: The Hickster at January 31, 2014 06:01 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:02 PM (FDyew)
This one (who does not like football and perhaps has a "moral" problem with it (Peaches, WTF could that mean?)) just said
"I'm rooting for both teams to get blitzed on PCP and have to play high."
Yes, this is Chicagoland. Opinions?
Posted by: Steck at January 31, 2014 06:02 PM (5i94q)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 06:02 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: Sharkman at January 31, 2014 06:02 PM (TM1p8)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at January 31, 2014 06:02 PM (IlZPo)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 06:03 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 31, 2014 06:03 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 31, 2014 06:03 PM (oFCZn)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:03 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 31, 2014 06:03 PM (Svkx0)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:04 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Molly k. at January 31, 2014 06:04 PM (M/X+h)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 06:04 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Thrawn at January 31, 2014 06:04 PM (WlWt+)
Why can't our S.W.A.T. teams kick through a windshield and pivot like Baryshnikov into a Weaver stance?
Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2014 06:04 PM (qyomX)
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at January 31, 2014 06:05 PM (IlZPo)
Posted by: Kid With A Gun at January 31, 2014 06:05 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Spun and Murky at January 31, 2014 06:05 PM (4DCSq)
Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2014 06:05 PM (qyomX)
You are the awesomest, Sharkman. God bless you and yours!
Posted by: Peaches at January 31, 2014 06:05 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 06:06 PM (At8tV)
It reminds me of an Ian Sholes rant that included the line: "Professional athletes and prostitutes are in the same business: destroying their bodies for the pleasure of strangers."
Posted by: Epobirs at January 31, 2014 06:07 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: DC in Towson at January 31, 2014 06:07 PM (eQJwb)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 31, 2014 06:07 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 06:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: --- at January 31, 2014 06:07 PM (MMC8r)
Not sure why. The roads were literally much worse on Monday and Tuesday.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2014 06:08 PM (30eLQ)
I have a feeling tonight's ONT will go some way toward bringing a tiny bit of closure to those who knew Joffen well. At least I hope so.
That said, I never had a whole lot of interaction with Joffen, unlike many of the longtime commenters here. But, for what it's worth, I am deeply sorry to hear about his passing and the anguish it's causing his friends here at the HQ.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 06:08 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2014 06:08 PM (HVff2)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:09 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Abner "Call Me Abbie" Normal [/u][/b][/s][/i] at January 31, 2014 06:09 PM (qlBdX)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 06:10 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at January 31, 2014 06:10 PM (skFw3)
Posted by: Molly k. at January 31, 2014 06:11 PM (M/X+h)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 06:11 PM (ewO/f)
Nice job on the ONT!
Okay Horde, question. I want to buy a generator for the house. it's 1050 sq ft. Not a lot of cash. About 600-800. Not seeing propane as an option. Any suggestions?
I have a converter to start the pellet stove from the suv battery, but not condusive to long term. Still will need the fridge or freezer.
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2014 06:11 PM (6bvBO)
Posted by: Chris M at January 31, 2014 06:12 PM (4lyMJ)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 31, 2014 06:12 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 06:12 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 06:12 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 06:13 PM (zOTsN)
Although still, go Broncos... ;^)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2014 06:13 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ [/i] [/b] [/s] at January 31, 2014 06:13 PM (skFw3)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 06:13 PM (T1005)
How much can one man endure?
Sharkman. That was a good post, and you are a good man for posting that.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 31, 2014 06:13 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 31, 2014 06:13 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:14 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Abner "Call Me Abbie" Normal[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 31, 2014 06:14 PM (qlBdX)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 06:14 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 06:14 PM (aDwsi)
Only one, and it's more of a guideline: when I was looking into this a while back, I heard a lot of "Buy Honda. You won't regret it."
Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2014 06:14 PM (qyomX)
Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 31, 2014 06:14 PM (LrxQR)
Posted by: J Black at January 31, 2014 06:15 PM (TP6sz)
No problem you have would be harder on your family than you being gone.
Posted by: The Hickster at January 31, 2014 06:15 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 06:15 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 06:15 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: huerfano at January 31, 2014 06:15 PM (bAGA/)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:15 PM (FDyew)
Well said young lady.
You are forgiven for being a Red Sox fan (at least for tonight).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2014 06:15 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 06:16 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 06:16 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:16 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 06:16 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 06:16 PM (ojnk6)
You'll need to figure up the max load.
How do I do that? House built in '61. Original elec. box.
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2014 06:16 PM (6bvBO)
My pastor recently said that it is an old myth that suicides automatically go to Hell.
Gee. that's not what the nuns taught me in CCD.
But seriously, sorry about your cousin. We can only hope that the Lord is really, really, very, very merciful.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 31, 2014 06:17 PM (V70Uh)
There is no reason for Boehner to put up even a pro-forma immigration bill. It is a complete GOP-base destroyer. It makes conservatives not want to vote.
Unless "something else is at work". Like someone slipping hipflasks under the Speaker's chair on a regular basis
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2014 06:17 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: --- at January 31, 2014 06:17 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 06:17 PM (HxSXm)
I'm not sure about that snow chart. I seem to recall lots of snow in Lawrence County (PA) when I was growing up. My school district NEVER closed. A delay now and then, but not closed.
I generally stay out of some of the personal stuff around here. That said, I am sorry to hear about Joffen. Didn't know him nor the details of what or why. I am sad for his family and friends.
Posted by: puddleglum at January 31, 2014 06:17 PM (yKH6x)
Posted by: DC in Towson at January 31, 2014 06:18 PM (eQJwb)
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2014 06:19 PM (6bvBO)
Posted by: DaveinNC at January 31, 2014 06:19 PM (/NgNT)
Posted by: Abner "Call Me Abbie" Normal[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 31, 2014 06:19 PM (qlBdX)
Posted by: --- at January 31, 2014 06:19 PM (MMC8r)
You should be able to get a 5,000 watt generator for about $600. Check Costco. They're all the same. Four stroke engine attached to a generator.
Then buy a manual transfer switch so that you can route the power to wherever you need it in the house. And run the cable to a plug outside, so you don't have to worry about running it through windows or doors when you need the generator.
It will cost a bit, but if you can do the wiring (simple, simple stuff) yourself it will be just in your budget
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2014 06:20 PM (QFxY5)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 06:20 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: --- at January 31, 2014 06:20 PM (MMC8r)
Sure there is, and it's already been alluded to on the blog. GOP money comes heavily from business. Business likes cheap labor. Screw the base. Why they would do this in an election year, though, is beyond me. I can only think that the pressure is massive.
I admit I refuse to believe the cover story about GOP pros thinking that legalized illegals would vote Republican if only we will cave to the Left on this. No one is that stupid. Right?
Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2014 06:20 PM (qyomX)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 06:20 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 06:20 PM (aDwsi)
Your final destination is not determined by what you did in this life. But upon Whom you placed your eternal faith.
If you get to heaven, ask the guy hanging next to Christ who was with him in paradise later that day.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 31, 2014 06:20 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 06:21 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Molly k. at January 31, 2014 06:21 PM (M/X+h)
1050 sq ft. Not a lot of cash. About 600-800. Not seeing propane as an
option. Any suggestions?>>
Depends on all the electrical you need to run since the biggest driver in cost is watts. But look at Tri fuel generators. They give you options and rarely used gasoline engines can lead to problems when you need them most.
Posted by: The Hickster at January 31, 2014 06:21 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 10:13 PM
There's still some hope? The number's still a no go. Fingers crossed, mate.
Posted by: otho at January 31, 2014 06:21 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 31, 2014 06:21 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 31, 2014 06:22 PM (+1T7c)
I just checked the local paper, and I don't see anything. Maybe our fucking sunshine patriot will enjoy the sunshine tomorrow. I hope. So very much.
Posted by: DC in Towson at January 31, 2014 10:18 PM (eQJwb)
Nothing would please me more.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 06:22 PM (T1005)
Posted by: DaveinNC at January 31, 2014 06:23 PM (/NgNT)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 06:23 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 06:23 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:23 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:24 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2014 06:24 PM (qyomX)
Thx CBD. Don't do electrical. AT ALL. Everything else I got. Have friends in the biz who do. Need to start getting serious about it. Want to have it done before sunmer.
(may send you a recipe for a great dinner I did last night)
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2014 06:24 PM (6bvBO)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2014 06:25 PM (aTXUx)
Believe me, I know how that goes. It can be difficult to get the right tone across in the comments section of a blog. So many different opinion expressed to so many different degrees of outrage, snark, and spite.
It's strange, but the comments of other people that have nothing to do with your own can have a way of coloring perceptions of what you're trying to say.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 06:25 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 31, 2014 06:25 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:25 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Grey Alien from Communion at January 31, 2014 06:25 PM (R6JT1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:26 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 31, 2014 06:26 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 06:26 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 31, 2014 06:27 PM (V70Uh)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 31, 2014 06:27 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 06:28 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 31, 2014 06:28 PM (itCai)
But before this devolves into an inter-faith circular firing squad, lets all simply pray that Joffen and everyone affected do find peace.
I am still haunted by a suicide. A complete stranger but her death still affects me. Many what ifs still play out. And Joffen's death brings all those flooding back.
Probably going to go now.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 06:28 PM (2JEMR)
Dogs, at least the many I have known, are wired in such a way that hitting is never needed. All you need do is convey your displeasure, and the message goes home.
Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2014 06:28 PM (qyomX)
Have you tried a PCI-e parallel port card, like this:
http://tinyurl.com/ktccolm
That one appears to require a full height slot but there are other brands and one of them likely has a low-profile bracket included.
This should let you use an inexpensive PC to get the job done. Something like a Shuttle SFF system might be well suited to the task.
Posted by: Epobirs at January 31, 2014 06:28 PM (bPxS6)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2014 06:29 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 06:29 PM (HxSXm)
I'm more concerned about cthulhu and shredded chi. I'm praying for them so they don't feel they need to carry this burden.
Posted by: Tami at January 31, 2014 10:21 PM (bCEmE)
I'll be ok. I've mostly been dreading having Shredded Chi find out, but then Conservative Crank mentioned that chi had told him. And, like I said -- there is the possibility that the NFPD found him, hustled him off for observation, and did something to the phone that caused the message to change. I don't rate it the most likely scenario, but I'm not giving up at present.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 06:30 PM (T1005)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 06:30 PM (zOTsN)
noticed on Drudge:
Prince Charles has called people who deny human-made climate change a "headless chicken brigade" who are ignoring overwhelming scientific evidence.
(big eared idiot...)
Posted by: mallfly at January 31, 2014 06:31 PM (zjcTL)
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2014 06:31 PM (6bvBO)
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2014 06:31 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2014 06:32 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Angel with a sword at January 31, 2014 06:33 PM (hpgw1)
noticed on Drudge:
One major problem with Obamacare that the president failed to mention in his State of the Union address is pending regulations that could make food more costly. The lawÂ’s Section 4205 requires restaurants with 20 or more locations to list calorie-content information for each menu item on a board at every establishment.
Posted by: mallfly at January 31, 2014 06:33 PM (zjcTL)
I looked frantically for you this morning. I posted my email in the morning dump.
I called NFPD, she told me to call his ex, I told her I had no contact info for her.
I asked if she would be able to answer a yes or no question and she said yes.
The answer to my question was yes.
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 10:23 PM (Nkh1h)
Well, I guess it's confirmed then.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 06:34 PM (T1005)
When I want the best advice about science, I seek out inbred royals. That reminds me, I need to send the Prince a letter asking what he thinks about Stephen Hawkings' latest about black holes.
Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2014 06:34 PM (qyomX)
The sketch was done in that way as so not to identify the race of the perpetrator because that would be racial profiling
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 31, 2014 06:34 PM (FE/sZ)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:34 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: eman at January 31, 2014 06:34 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 06:35 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: redenzo at January 31, 2014 06:35 PM (WCnJW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:35 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2014 06:37 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 31, 2014 06:37 PM (fT3qO)
Fuck Prince Charles, he should come to the headless chicken festival in the valley.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/d626u6o
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2014 06:37 PM (6bvBO)
Posted by: sven10077 at January 31, 2014 06:38 PM (TE35l)
Yeah, but two of those were already planned teacher in-service and work days planned in case it snowed - because if it snows here, it will snow around the last week in January.
Good news! The Hickory Middle School robotics team came in 5th out of 19 last week at a competition on NSU against all high school teams. We ended up 4th seed and lost to the #1 seed in the semifinal elimination match. The very first time these kids have ever competed in robotics. I'm so proud I could burst.
Posted by: Buck Farack, Gentleman Adventurer at January 31, 2014 06:39 PM (Nk6GS)
(big eared idiot...)
Posted by: mallfly at January 31, 2014 10:31 PM (zjcTL)
Charlie's arse will never warm the throne. Mummy will outlive him so he must find some way to be relevant. Wrong but relevant
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 31, 2014 06:39 PM (FE/sZ)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 06:39 PM (m0h0I)
dogs have owners, cats have staff. now you know.
Posted by: Peaches at January 31, 2014 06:39 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 06:39 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2014 06:39 PM (qDPmt)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:39 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2014 06:39 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2014 06:40 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:40 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:41 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:41 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 06:41 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2014 06:41 PM (qDPmt)
Posted by: Diane Sawyer Guzzling her sixth martini at January 31, 2014 06:42 PM (Aif/5)
NFL is a "nonprofit" (which somehow makes money), so a branch of the government.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2014 06:42 PM (30eLQ)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 06:42 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 10:39 PM (m0h0I)
A good chunk of my stress was trying to figure out how to talk to chi before you all did.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 06:43 PM (T1005)
Posted by: bill sometimes bill from canada at January 31, 2014 06:43 PM (CGs8z)
Tea is a good name for the new party.
There will be no reforming the old one from the inside.
Posted by: CO at January 31, 2014 06:43 PM (j2X6g)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 10:40 PM (DmNpO)
It is funny how many pets will do what you say but it's obvious they're doing it grudgingly.
Posted by: Steck at January 31, 2014 06:43 PM (5i94q)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:44 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:44 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 06:45 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 06:45 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: DaveinNC at January 31, 2014 06:45 PM (/NgNT)
The answer to my question was yes.
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 10:23 PM
Oh. Sorry to hear that. Would have been a tough call.
Posted by: otho at January 31, 2014 06:45 PM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2014 06:45 PM (6bvBO)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 06:45 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2014 06:45 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:45 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: bill sometimes bill from canada at January 31, 2014 06:46 PM (CGs8z)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2014 06:47 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 31, 2014 06:48 PM (fT3qO)
Posted by: bill sometimes bill from canada at January 31, 2014 06:49 PM (CGs8z)
Posted by: grognard at January 31, 2014 06:50 PM (Be2Wn)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:50 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:51 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 31, 2014 06:51 PM (N/cFh)
If any of you know someone who struggles with it and are having a hard time grasping what they're going through, I highly recommend getting a copy of William Styron's Darkness Visible. It really helped me to understand what I was going through, myself.
http://is.gd/ZKsKAS
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 06:51 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Helo parentes at January 31, 2014 06:51 PM (R6JT1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:51 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: bill sometimes bill from canada at January 31, 2014 06:52 PM (CGs8z)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 06:52 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 06:52 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 31, 2014 06:53 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:53 PM (FDyew)
Two years ago had no cats, now am support staff for four of the furry darlings.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 06:53 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2014 06:53 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPad at January 31, 2014 06:55 PM (2t9D9)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:55 PM (FDyew)
Is your hot water gas or electric? I once ran my gas water heater off a computer UPS. The exhaust blower and solenoid totaled about 500W, I think? But an electric water heater will need some serious kilowatts and 240V, too. For emergency use, find the biggest power draw that you will need, and maybe double it.
Posted by: Chris M at January 31, 2014 06:55 PM (4lyMJ)
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2014 06:55 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 06:55 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2014 06:55 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:56 PM (DmNpO)
I am 50 and pretty much lost everything in this last year, and somehow managed to stay alive, though it was very close. It was hard but I learned that it is NEVER to late to be saved from what took Joffen. Just call.
Bob
425-770-4245
Rjp@t3ce.com
Just call. God bless you all and may God find a way to take Joffen's soul to ultimate peace through His Infinite Grace.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 31, 2014 10:02 PM (TM1p
May Joffen RIP. Prayers for his family/friends. Bless you Sharkman.
Don't know, nor need to know details, but this is very sad.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky survived 2014 Polar Vortex at January 31, 2014 06:56 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 06:56 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 06:57 PM (DmNpO)
The 10 commandments thing is... eh... Good for people who haven't cared for dogs for their entire lives, but not really. Not well thought out.
My Wardogs are treated better than I treat myself. They're family and are treated like royalty. They work, and I work with them. Unfettered love and devotion is not taken lightly at FOB Tango.
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 06:57 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 06:58 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Infidel at January 31, 2014 06:59 PM (6bvBO)
Posted by: bill sometimes bill from canada at January 31, 2014 10:46 PM (CGs8z)
It would appear that the police got to him within two hours of his last email to me.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 07:00 PM (T1005)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 07:00 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: Ribald Conservative riding Orca at January 31, 2014 07:01 PM (+1T7c)
That figure manifests itself in so many awful, strange ways. When I was at the depths, I'd find myself sitting in the middle of my bed at night sobbing like a grieving widow -- made all the worse by the self-loathing I felt for being a grown man sitting in the middle of his bed, crying for no apparent reason.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 07:01 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Diane Sawyer guzzling her seventh martini at January 31, 2014 07:02 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 07:02 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my Hate cannot be found) at January 31, 2014 07:03 PM (ial2b)
Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2014 07:03 PM (qDPmt)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 31, 2014 07:04 PM (WK8VM)
RIP Joffen, may you find the peace in the next life that eluded you in this one.
If there are any morons/ettes in the Charlotte NC area looking for a good cause tomorrow there is a charity car show at FRONTIER BAR in Gastonia, NC. Someone you might know may be there.
And since 6 AM comes awfully early in the AM, and since I have to be up before that since it is our departure time, I'm off to bed. Later roonz and roonettez, fear no evil!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at January 31, 2014 07:04 PM (yh0zB)
Getting upset or your back up at being questioned will most likely be take as a yes answer and also causing the person asking to question your emotional control.
The smaller organs of gov't use local information more often than the larger and can be very disrupting because they're local.
Even if you have none, you cold still invite speculation and unwelcome attention by LE.
Also recommend that you keep your information hidden or understated to your neighbors (no matter how long you've known them), your doctors, your children's teachers and pretty much anyone who isn't family (and maybe some of those).
Time to think proactively is now, not when they announce they will be doing searches based on information received.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 31, 2014 07:04 PM (LSDdO)
Slán leat
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 11:02 PM (GEICT)
Til Valhal
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 07:04 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2014 07:05 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 07:06 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPad at January 31, 2014 07:06 PM (2t9D9)
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 31, 2014 07:06 PM (W3UHW)
Posted by: Rational Diss Coarse at January 31, 2014 07:07 PM (R6JT1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-JDZB-rHFU
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 31, 2014 07:07 PM (wjJGE)
Posted by: mindful webworker at January 31, 2014 07:08 PM (U13jb)
I know its very hard and as I said before this has brought back all my doubts and what ifs. *sigh* Just hang in there.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 07:08 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: Carol at January 31, 2014 07:09 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2014 07:10 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: shredded chi -
Brother.
I offer this. I lost one of my closest in a murder/suicide. I spent hours on the phone beforehand, not 2 days prior saying "Do NOT go near that guy!"
I did everything. I've retraced my steps a thousand times over the last two years, and I cannot find fault with anything I did or didn't do. I did everything I could. At the end of the day, you can only do so much. Logically, you know you did it right.
Emotionally, survivor's guilt is still there.
It doesn't make sense, and there's no fixing it.
Just is what it is.
Press on and apply the wisdom to the next time you're needed. All you can do.
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 07:10 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 07:10 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 11:00 PM (Nkh1h)
I was afraid of that.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 07:10 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 31, 2014 07:11 PM (qTirZ)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 07:11 PM (At8tV)
Uninteruptable Power Supply. AKA a "battery backup". It worked fine, but only for about 2 hours and then the battery was dead. I have a generator now, but I don't have a transfer switch. The few times I've used it, I've just backfed into both phases. I definitely recommend the transfer switch, though. The most crucial things were the fridge and the water heater. But I found it was nice to have some lights and the TV too.
Posted by: Chris M at January 31, 2014 07:12 PM (4lyMJ)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 07:12 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: eman at January 31, 2014 07:12 PM (AO9UG)
For those of you who are friends of Joffen, I am sure he loved you. Sometimes, no matter if they know they are loved, the pain they cannot escape. Death brings guilt, even for those left behind by illness (or, in my brother's case, a sudden stroke had me thinking: "Could I have been a better sister? Could I have called him more? etc). I do know this: if you love someone and/or he/she is your friend or brother or loved one, they do not want you to grieve for them but to live your own life better.
I am so sorry for those who knew him. You are good people. I may only be a "fractional" moron, as I just pop in now and then and talk to myself...but I do know when I see a familiar name there is a connection, and I have seen this name and it saddens me. My prayers are for you as well as his family. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky survived 2014 Polar Vortex at January 31, 2014 07:13 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 11:10 PM (DmNpO)
That's an ok movie, I guess. Michael Cera is actually rather unlikeable in it though.
Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2014 07:14 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2014 07:14 PM (qDPmt)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 31, 2014 07:14 PM (cxs6V)
Posted by: Fox2! at January 31, 2014 07:14 PM (cHwSy)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 07:14 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at January 31, 2014 07:14 PM (Rb9kQ)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 31, 2014 07:14 PM (qTirZ)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 07:15 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 07:15 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPad at January 31, 2014 07:15 PM (pZ5h7)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 07:15 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Carlos Danger at January 31, 2014 07:16 PM (qDPmt)
I think it was his last post. I could be wrong about that.
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2014 07:16 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 07:16 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 31, 2014 07:16 PM (8FyP4)
Posted by: madamemayhem at January 31, 2014 07:16 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2014 07:16 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 07:17 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Tux at January 31, 2014 07:17 PM (B7mcG)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 31, 2014 07:18 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 07:19 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 07:19 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2014 07:19 PM (qDPmt)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 31, 2014 07:20 PM (bCEmE)
How is everyone?
Cthulhu, how are you today? I just came home & havenÂ’t looked at earlier comments.
Posted by: Carol at January 31, 2014 11:09 PM (z4WKX)
I'm doing ok. Still haven't fully processed things -- having had Joffen's fate confirmed less than an hour ago. Tired.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 07:20 PM (T1005)
Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2014 07:22 PM (LsJl8)
Posted by: eman at January 31, 2014 07:22 PM (AO9UG)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 07:22 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: cthulhu
In the yahoo group I'm delavalette ... if you want to give me his name, I will see if I can get some more information.
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2014 07:22 PM (4JkHl)
Posted by: grognard at January 31, 2014 07:23 PM (Be2Wn)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 31, 2014 07:23 PM (qTirZ)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 07:23 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 31, 2014 07:23 PM (8FyP4)
Posted by: joncelli at January 31, 2014 07:24 PM (/AYWV)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 07:24 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 07:24 PM (DmNpO)
What is it about the "mint oreos" comment that caused concern?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 11:14 PM (GEICT)
Source of concern -- http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=346841#c21721926
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 07:26 PM (T1005)
You both touched a hell of a lot of people.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 07:26 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2014 07:28 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at January 31, 2014 07:28 PM (kxSZr)
"unconfirmed" bin. Mostly because I don't want to quit. The Niagara
Gazette has a police blotter column that's published a day later, and I
would really like to see "police responded to concern and bundled man
off for 5150 hold" in it tomorrow.
Posted by: cthulhu
In the yahoo group I'm delavalette ... if you want to give me his name, I will see if I can get some more information.
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2014 11:22 PM (4JkHl)
Chi confirmed upthread. They couldn't tell me immediately because next-of-kin hadn't been notified.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 07:29 PM (T1005)
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2014 07:29 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 07:32 PM (DmNpO)
How do the two of you feel about that? And would you be willing to help with putting together the info on Joffen?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 11:24 PM (GEICT)
He asked me. I said, "too soon." -- partially because of the unconfirmed status, and partially because I didn't want people to get too swept up in it. Ask me again tomorrow.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 07:33 PM (T1005)
ALL of them?
http://is.gd/icirKw
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 07:33 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Country Singer at January 31, 2014 07:35 PM (m+He/)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 07:35 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 07:36 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 31, 2014 07:36 PM (WK8VM)
http://tinyurl.com/nk2r6ge
People Who Died The Jim Carroll Band
Posted by: The Hickster
The late Allen Lanier (BOC founding member, RIP) was tight with Carroll and played on that song.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2014 07:36 PM (CyDmM)
Posted by: New Nic at January 31, 2014 07:37 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 07:37 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Tux at January 31, 2014 11:17 PM (B7mcG)
Easy crusher. I have Nero's ashes still in the car. They said they made a paw print.
Background:
he was a 14 yr old g shep. Survived bloat. HGE (hemorrhagic gastro enteritis), both of which have 20% survival rates, during his lifetime. He was a warrior, and my best friend.
I could barely muster the courage to pick up his ashes.
Years ago, some asshole shot my Arab horse, Misha. She died in a ditch.
So I know loss. Quite familar with it.
You know that little thing, Benghazi? Glen and I were working on a book and I talked with him 2 weeks before we died, and I was giving him shit about how he got his arm broken on a bike ride in NYC because his situation awareness wasn't up to par.
But. You don't "fuck you" people here.
It's not polite.
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 07:37 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at January 31, 2014 07:38 PM (bCEmE)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 07:39 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: New Nic at January 31, 2014 07:39 PM (zELMe)
Posted by: Puncher at January 31, 2014 07:39 PM (LhAqq)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 07:40 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 07:40 PM (aDwsi)
You'll be in my thoughts and prayers. I just wish there were more to do in the way of offering comfort.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 07:41 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 07:42 PM (T1005)
Posted by: madamemayhem at January 31, 2014 07:42 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2014 07:42 PM (AymDN)
Sometimes you need to have a good cry.
This is what sadness sounds like, at least to me.
http://tinyurl.com/kpeyoj5
Posted by: Kreplach at January 31, 2014 07:43 PM (Xkr8I)
Posted by: awkward davies at January 31, 2014 07:46 PM (WK8VM)
Posted by: Countrysquire at January 31, 2014 07:46 PM (8FyP4)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 07:47 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 07:48 PM (ojnk6)
ok and get some more facts. I've looked at the police blotter of
the Niagara Gazette, and I see nothing."
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 11:42 PM (T1005)
Brother, I think (and who gives two craps what I think) that it's best kept in the comments. The Horde has done well. A post about it... well... forgive me, it's just one man's opinion, but no. I think the outpouring of heartfelt loss, grief and support in the comments are telling and significant.
I'm trying to find the words, and lord knows I'm usually not at a loss, but it just seems that it's best kept in the trenches. Still not the right words, but hopefully the point is made.
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 07:48 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 07:48 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Country Singer at January 31, 2014 11:35 PM (m+He/)
Yes, CS, he was, for sure, waiting for you. May God comfort you in your loss. My heartfelt condolences and wishes for happy memories. Take care.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky survived 2014 Polar Vortex at January 31, 2014 07:48 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2014 07:50 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Caliban at January 31, 2014 07:50 PM (2ArJQ)
Posted by: junior at January 31, 2014 07:50 PM (l9mhS)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 07:51 PM (DmNpO)
Everything is surreal right now; he was the rock that held not just the immediate family together, but the extended family as well. I keep expecting to see him sitting in his recliner talking college sports and NFL football. I think he'd love the irony in his visitation being right before the Super Bowl. And I think that's what I'm going to miss most of all, his sense of humor, especially when dealing with life's problems. I get a lot of that from him, which is probably why I enjoy The Horde so much.
Sorry for the rambling, but you assholes are therapeutic.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 31, 2014 07:52 PM (m+He/)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 10:13 PM (T1005)
********
Okay I had been checking that blotter too.
Gave up because I thought it was more confirmed.
Have been asking for confirmation.
Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2014 11:50 PM (RJMhd)
Shredded Chi got confirmation - info upthread.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 07:52 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Adam at January 31, 2014 07:52 PM (Aif/5)
Here's the trick: THERE IS NO DEAL! Not only was Boehner reportedly "unenthusiastic" over the "priniciples," he told Rep. Fleming that he was not committed to bringing ANY IR bill to a vote this year.
Now, if you get your news from the NYT, WaPo, or Talking Points Memo, you may have a different understanding of what happened. Apparently many conservatives get their news from those sources, oddly enough, since they are going nuts over the prospect yet again.
Aren't you tired of going through the Annual "Boehner's Imminent Immigration Betrayal" frenzy?
You see - you may wish to sit down for this - sometimes politicians say things to please one group of constituents even though there is no chance of actually following through. It's just for PR. This keeps the Chamber appeased, doesn't get the Latino groups worked up against us, and keeps Democratic attacks to a minimum as long as they think we are "working on it."
And there is no real risk of ticking off the Tea Party folks, because they stay ticked off at leadership anyway.
Posted by: Adjoran at January 31, 2014 07:52 PM (473jB)
Til Valhal
Those words aren't typed lightly, and they're not the internet "sorry for your loss" emptiness. Know there's a heart and mind here that cares.
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 07:53 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: madamemayhem at January 31, 2014 07:53 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 07:53 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: Adam at January 31, 2014 07:54 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2014 07:54 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: Carol at January 31, 2014 07:55 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 07:55 PM (ojnk6)
Everything is surreal right now; he was the rock that held not just the immediate family together, but the extended family as well. I keep expecting to see him sitting in his recliner talking college sports and NFL football. I think he'd love the irony in his visitation being right before the Super Bowl. And I think that's what I'm going to miss most of all, his sense of humor, especially when dealing with life's problems. I get a lot of that from him, which is probably why I enjoy The Horde so much.
Sorry for the rambling, but you assholes are therapeutic.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 31, 2014 11:52 PM (m+He/)
Ramble at will. We're glad you made it to his side, and we're glad you made it here to be with us.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 07:55 PM (T1005)
Bones, "He's not really dead. As long as we remember him."
Kirk, "It's a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done before. A far better resting place that I go to than I have ever known."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 07:57 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2014 07:57 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: madamemayhem at January 31, 2014 07:59 PM (S2RnE)
Posted by: Angilris at January 31, 2014 08:00 PM (vFDwO)
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 11:48 PM (x3YFz)
********
I agree with that.
Sorry but--there is an element of manipulation with threats of suicide.
A blackmail aspect to it--and attention seeking.
Best not to feed into that.
Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2014 11:57 PM (RJMhd)
Ecclesiastes 3:1-15
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 08:01 PM (T1005)
Whenever I want sometging a llittle different in the hardware world, I look at tigerdirect.com. as of last month they still had some XP pro laptops available. Worth a look at least.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 10:26 PM (ojnk6)
newegg (http://tinyurl.com/qpin) has some good stuff if you make your own computers and, if you sign up for email you get special email only deals. Micro Center (http://tinyurl.com/g9bbo) has stuff too but they are better when you have to run to the store cause you need something now.
Tech bargains (http://tinyurl.com/33xa) is a shopping site that gives you a heads up on all things tech. They are very good.
Posted by: think at January 31, 2014 08:01 PM (OroYa)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 08:01 PM (Nkh1h)
A blackmail aspect to it--and attention seeking.
Best not to feed into that.
Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2014 11:57 PM (RJMhd)
I understand what you're saying, to a point, but firstly: too soon. Probably should have engaged the filter prior to typing that.
Secondly: it's not a simple thing. I've dealt with suicidal people before and the first time I did, it took about 3 seconds to realize I was not even remotely qualified to help or provide analysis.
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 08:02 PM (x3YFz)
Here's the trick: THERE IS NO DEAL! Not only was Boehner reportedly "unenthusiastic" over the "priniciples," he told Rep. Fleming that he was not committed to bringing ANY IR bill to a vote this year.
Now, if you get your news from the NYT, WaPo, or Talking Points Memo, you may have a different understanding of what happened. Apparently many conservatives get their news from those sources, oddly enough, since they are going nuts over the prospect yet again.
Aren't you tired of going through the Annual "Boehner's Imminent Immigration Betrayal" frenzy?
You see - you may wish to sit down for this - sometimes politicians say things to please one group of constituents even though there is no chance of actually following through. It's just for PR. This keeps the Chamber appeased, doesn't get the Latino groups worked up against us, and keeps Democratic attacks to a minimum as long as they think we are "working on it."
And there is no real risk of ticking off the Tea Party folks, because they stay ticked off at leadership anyway.
Posted by: Adjoran at January 31, 2014 11:52 PM (473jB)
John Boehner has been hoping to push immigration reform since the day after the 2012 elections. You're a sucker and one of the idiots that accused Ted Cruz of just trying to fundraise before having the congressional GOP demonstrate that all they care about is fundraising.
Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2014 08:02 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 08:04 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 08:05 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2014 08:05 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2014 08:06 PM (FcR7P)
http://tinyurl.com/the-super-bag
For Joffen RIP
and to the members of the horde that tried to help him.. I salute you *raises glass
Posted by: Forty Baht Barack at January 31, 2014 08:06 PM (aNdhq)
My toast is to the living.
To you, Cthulu and to Shredded Chi, my glass is held high in thanks, praise, appreciation and respect.
May you know always that you stood in the breach, and were not found wanting, that your hearts were strong, your love steadfast and your loyalty found firm, faithful and true.
Would that we all had friends as noble and true, and that we should be such friends when called upon to be so.
To you, I hold this glass high, and may all who read these words, bear witness with me, you were and are Knights, and I, and we, willingly bend our knee in humble appreciation to that which you did, and tried to do, so nobly.
Your efforts were not to no avail. Though friend Joffen is lost, our love, respect and our appreciation of you, Cthulhu and Shredded Chi, is grown by magnitudes of order, and you shall be legend amongst us, evermore.
Stand with me, Morons, and quaff this toast to our stalwart warriors of the cause.
SALUT!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 31, 2014 08:06 PM (vvk2F)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 08:06 PM (HxSXm)
We're down a man. Do what you need to do.
Let's not let AoS become a funeral blog. Get it out. Grieve. Share.
Tomorrow we ruck up and press on. Capiche?
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 08:07 PM (x3YFz)
Y'all made the right decision and your Daddy is at peace. Five years ago this month we went through the same thing.
He will always be a part of you. Not a day goes by that I don't miss mine, a WWII Marine who dealt with every issue with a great sense of humor. It was an honor to be his only daughter. He was a Southern gentleman, a great Daddy and husband to my Mom, and a Christian. I am only thankful to have had him in my life for as long as I did.
My prayers are for you and the rest of you morons tonight, for comfort and peace. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky survived 2014 Polar Vortex at January 31, 2014 08:07 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: Russian Security Detail [/i] [/b] at January 31, 2014 08:08 PM (cxs6V)
Posted by: soothsayer at February 01, 2014 12:05 AM (FDyew)
if we start self-censoring then we won't be saying anything at all.
that's not the answer.
the answer is to be truthful, firm, and honest, but not outrageous and hyperbolic.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 31, 2014 08:08 PM (9GG/0)
Joffen, I hope you have found peace.
Everybody else, particularly Cooth and Shredded Chi, sometimes there is just nothing to be done. I have dealt with this from both sides in the past, and I have never known anyone's effort to be in vain.
Will take a long time to pass, that's for certain. Prayers for everyone, mostly for those left behind.
Posted by: tcn at January 31, 2014 08:09 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2014 08:09 PM (RJMhd)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 08:10 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 08:10 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 08:10 PM (At8tV)
Absolutely correct AJ, coupled with the fsct that the warning set everyone loose at one time, seriously clogging the roads. Dipshit commenter who lives up North needs to realize that this happens very, very rarely down here, much like BCS titles up there.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 01, 2014 12:10 AM (ojnk6)
Guess its good that the SEC never plays games where it snows otherwise they'd have to forfeit because they couldn't make it.
Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2014 08:12 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2014 08:12 PM (RJMhd)
http://is.gd/nqLFo0
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 08:12 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: I Be That Chick at January 31, 2014 08:12 PM (McA1b)
Posted by: Elite Jay Cutler at January 31, 2014 08:12 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 31, 2014 08:12 PM (qTirZ)
I've been thinking on things. About what Lincolntf said earlier.
I have to wonder if all our negativity about the future of our corner of the world didnt have an impact or an impression on Joffen.
Joffen was hung up on what he thought was his ruined life that can never be fixed. I have to wonder if comments here compounded that bleak outlook.
I actually try to be more sensitive saying some stuff around HR now that I know it hurts her. Whether it should or not is irrelevant at the moment.
But I think I should've known Joffen would be hypersensitive to some of the things I casually say here; things that could trigger cues.
Posted by: soothsayer at February 01, 2014 12:05 AM (FDyew)
......and.......Knock That The Fuck Off. Go back and read The Upbeat Thread again.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 08:12 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 31, 2014 08:13 PM (qTirZ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 08:13 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 08:14 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 08:14 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 01, 2014 12:10 AM (At8tV)
*Beep*
What is Basketball in the 1990's only?
I'll stay in the category of Sports history for $600 Alex.
Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2014 08:14 PM (LI48c)
that's not the answer.
we can always talk about the greatness of Chicago sports teams
Posted by: navycopjoe at February 01, 2014 12:10 AM (At8tV)
OK, there is some self-censorship that may be justified....
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 08:15 PM (T1005)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 08:16 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 08:17 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at January 31, 2014 08:17 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 08:17 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 08:17 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 08:18 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at January 31, 2014 08:18 PM (cxs6V)
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2014 08:19 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 08:20 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Adam at January 31, 2014 08:21 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 08:21 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 08:21 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at February 01, 2014 12:21 AM (2JEMR)
Well its not like he's Tony Romo or anything.
Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2014 08:22 PM (LI48c)
I find that it's helpful when confronted by most deaths to be grateful for the end of someone's suffering.
I was overjoyed when I found my father that way and that's why I'm taking one of my dogs to get taken out tomorrow. He's sleeping now in my living room with a bellyful of ground chuck. 16 years old, deaf, almost blind, horribly arthritic, and a huge growing tumor on his ass.
For who's sake are we desiring to prolong the suffering of another? Is our comfort worth more than their pain??? If we want the best for them who are we really crying for?
RIP Joffen I have no complaints
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 08:22 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 08:23 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 31, 2014 08:24 PM (DmNpO)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 08:25 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 08:25 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Hibernian Hooligan at January 31, 2014 08:25 PM (qTirZ)
392 No tasker you're very right. Many suicides are such defective assholes that they dump buckets of pain on the people around them when they go.
Half the times I considered suicide I was dissuaded by who I knew would find me and how I'd look
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 08:26 PM (b7yum)
How is this related? Looking for this sushi maker kit saw on DiY. And eBay is suggesting that the X-Hose is a related item.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 08:26 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 08:27 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Carol at January 31, 2014 08:28 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 08:28 PM (At8tV)
That is not on you.
He chose to read here.
And his OCD over politics probably compounded the very real bigger problems in his life.
Do not look to politics for your satisfaction or personal vindication.
Far too many people here let the daily/weekly/monthly ebb and flow of the political process control their own happiness. If you let it, I guarantee that you will end up depressed. Why? Because politics in general is inherently unsatisfying and in most ways beyond your immediate control. Obsessing over something that you personally can't do much about and that is almost always unsatisfying is a near perfect recipe for depression.
And if you are clinically depressed for God's sake stay away from politics. There's always something somewhere horrible to focus on and the depressed have a preternatural filter that blocks everything except despair.
Posted by: Mætenloch at January 31, 2014 08:28 PM (XkotV)
As Morpheus tells Neo in The Matrix, I can only show you the path. You have to walk it.
He chose a different path.
RIP, Joffen/John.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 31, 2014 08:29 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 08:29 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 08:29 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 08:29 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 08:29 PM (FDyew)
Posted by: Jim at January 31, 2014 08:30 PM (vvk2F)
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 08:31 PM (b7yum)
Good night.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 31, 2014 08:31 PM (2JEMR)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 08:31 PM (Nkh1h)
That's a big chunk of the reason I've all but boycotted politics since the election. Having been through the whole clinical depression thing, I guess I picked up on the warning signs.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 08:32 PM (m0h0I)
The survivors all said that as soon as they jumped, it was nothing but regret, all the way down.
A good movie about it this topic is "The Bridge".
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2014 08:33 PM (AW7Gr)
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 31, 2014 08:33 PM (cHZB7)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 08:34 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: Carol at January 31, 2014 08:34 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 08:34 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 08:35 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Peaches at January 31, 2014 08:37 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2014 08:38 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 08:40 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Carol at January 31, 2014 08:40 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 08:41 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 31, 2014 08:41 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: kbdabear at February 01, 2014 12:38 AM (aTXUx)
This, times 1000. I have been medicated for over 20 years, because when I am not, I crash hard. Hard enough to try. And I don't want to try anymore, dammit. So I take the meds.
This ain't nurture, it's nature, and some of us got the rotten end of the brain-chemistry stick.
And it doesn't hurt to do a little priority setting while medicated, so it doesn't happen again.
Posted by: tcn at January 31, 2014 08:41 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 08:43 PM (FDyew)
"They're" treating the game like it's Sochi, for God's sake!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 31, 2014 08:43 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: tcn at January 31, 2014 08:44 PM (fwcEs)
Posted by: Mayor Muhammed Kasim Reed at January 31, 2014 08:44 PM (Aif/5)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 08:45 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: Urban Achiever at January 31, 2014 08:45 PM (3BMpc)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 08:46 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: thunderb at January 31, 2014 08:46 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: soothsayer at January 31, 2014 08:46 PM (FDyew)
I'm so sorry.
I was just tearing up when I read the Canine Commandments.
We lost our little Dolly last April, and it still hurts every day. Her sister misses her still as well. People who say they don't know are idiots.
I was wondering why Daisy was laying almost upright on the sofa back, cuddling up to a jacket I threw down. I realized after an hour that I wore it when I was carrying her sister Dolly when she was so very sick in that Jacket, which I hung up and hadn't worn since. Both my wife and I cried when I realized why she was doing that.
Again, I really do feel your pain and wish I could say it'll get better. I can't. But I can say you were good and did everything you could for your wonderful dog.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at January 31, 2014 08:47 PM (pgQxn)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 08:47 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2014 08:47 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 08:47 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 08:47 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: buzzion at February 01, 2014 12:12 AM (LI48c)
FSU plays in Boston, South Bend, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Blacksburg, and Charlottesville.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at February 01, 2014 12:45 AM (HxSXm)
And is not in the SEC.
Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2014 08:47 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: CDR M at January 31, 2014 08:50 PM (LsJl8)
Posted by: Carol at January 31, 2014 08:50 PM (z4WKX)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 08:50 PM (HxSXm)
First guess "Money Distribution".
Posted by: The Hickster at January 31, 2014 08:51 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: kbdabear at January 31, 2014 08:51 PM (aTXUx)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 31, 2014 08:52 PM (aDwsi)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 08:53 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 11:20 PM (T1005)
Cthulhu,
Both you & Shredded Chi should go to sleep NOW! You are both mentally & physically exhausted. You did all you could. Joffen wasnÂ’t in the same home with you & there is no way you could see how darkly his view of things was.
I hope heÂ’s in a peaceful & happy place.
IÂ’m sorry I didnÂ’t respond earlier, I was reading all the earlier comments.
Posted by: Carol at February 01, 2014 12:50 AM (z4WKX)
I'd rather be here with my beloved Horde at the moment.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 08:53 PM (T1005)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 08:53 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 08:54 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Peaches at January 31, 2014 08:54 PM (8lmkt)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 08:55 PM (Q6HBD)
Amen. If people need to ask themselves these questions, then they should do so, then let it go.
If you care about someone, you do what you can for them. If you couldn't do more, it's because you couldn't. That's the simple truth of it.
You could not know what you did not know at the time, and you could not be where you were not.
Know that you cared about someone enough that you tried. And be at peace with that.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2014 08:56 PM (BeSEI)
Those words aren't typed lightly, and they're not the internet "sorry for your loss" emptiness. Know there's a heart and mind here that cares.
Posted by: tangonine at January 31, 2014 11:53 PM (x3YFz)
Thanks. For you, and the rest of the military veterans out there, toss a salute in the direction of West Tennessee about 1630 central time on Monday. The rifles should be firing and Taps playing about that time. Dad was a retired Senior Chief, and will be getting the appropriate sendoff. Another thing he would have found ironic is the ships going into the Black Sea during the Olympics, since he went there on USS Turner (DDR-834) in the '68 (I think it was 6
and they stared down the Soviet Black Sea Fleet (his General Quarters station was as the CO's bridge phone talker).
And this will describe the level of integrity that he had: Dad was a Personnelman (PN), the primary duties of which are the maintenance of enlisted records and processing all sorts of paperwork, including awards. Anyone who's been in the military knows how admin types are notorious for getting all kinds of medals, since they write up the paperwork for them. Dad retired wearing only the National Defense Service Medal and five awards of the Good Conduct. Anytime he got put in for an Achievement Medal or a Commendation Medal, he'd round file the paperwork since he knew it would be taking an award away from someone else. He did the same thing for the Expeditionary Medal he was entitled to from the Bay of Pigs; he told he couldn't in good conscience wear it after the way "those poor guys" got left on the beach with no air support.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 31, 2014 08:56 PM (m+He/)
Posted by: Adam at January 31, 2014 08:58 PM (Aif/5)
501 My father lied to me all his life and said he was a lieutenant j.g. when he was actually a full Lieutenant (Navy). I guess he just didn't count his non-wartime promotions
How can you not be glad to have known men such as these?
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 09:01 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 09:01 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 09:02 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Peaches at January 31, 2014 09:03 PM (8lmkt)
Last time, for the crowd, you may come down here and experience it for yourself. Or blow me. But mostly, blow me. Posted by: ManWithNoParty
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Who you talkin' to Hoss?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 31, 2014 09:03 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 09:03 PM (HxSXm)
Somebody expected Atlanta politicians to do the right thing? On time?
Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2014 09:04 PM (AW7Gr)
I've been a recovering drunk and addict with over 12 years of sobriety, and have remained active in a 12-step Program that shall remain nameless. During that time, I've sponsored any number of guys, some of whom would go back out and drink and use drugs and get caught up in the life and are now dead or crazy or in prison. Early on, I blamed myself when this happened, and would agonize, wondering if it was something I said or didn't say, did or didn't do, that caused these men to crash upon the rocks. My sponsor, with decades of sobriety and hard-won wisdom, told me to cut that shit out. I'm just not that big of a deal.
Nothing anyone posts on an Internet blog is responsible for the actions taken by someone in the grip of clinical, chronic depression or any other kind of mental illness or emotional problem. Those of you who are second-guessing yourselves, wondering if you could've done more, said more, reached out more? Give yourselves a break. You did all you could.
Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2014 09:04 PM (ptcFO)
506 If only the people who do combat with each other here could muster an equal energy in fighting our common enemies
Probably me as much as anyone. doesn't make it any better
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 09:05 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 09:05 PM (At8tV)
"Did Showdown Kill Boehner's Immigration Dream?"
http://tinyurl.com/mw726hm
Gotta hope and pray their spines stay stiff.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 31, 2014 09:06 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 09:07 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: Country Singer at January 31, 2014 09:08 PM (m+He/)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 31, 2014 09:08 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: Country Singer>>
Honor worn on the heart speaks louder than medals worn on the chest.
Posted by: The Hickster at January 31, 2014 09:08 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 09:09 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 09:10 PM (ojnk6)
I've been a recovering drunk and addictwith over 12 years of sobriety, and have remained active in a 12-step Program that shall remain nameless. During that time, I've sponsored any number of guys, some of whom would go back out and drink and use drugs and get caught up in the life and are now dead or crazy or in prison. Early on, I blamed myself when this happened, and would agonize, wondering if it was something I said or didn't say, did or didn't do, that caused thesemen to crash upon the rocks. My sponsor, with decades of sobriety and hard-won wisdom, told me to cut that shit out. I'm just not that big of a deal.
Nothinganyone postson an Internet blog is responsible for the actions taken by someone in the grip of clinical, chronic depression or any other kind of mental illness or emotional problem. Those of you who are second-guessing yourselves, wondering if you could've done more, said more, reached out more? Give yourselves a break.You did all you could.
Posted by: troyriser at February 01, 2014 01:04 AM (ptcFO)
Congratulations, troyriser, on your 12 years -- and kudos for your sponsorships.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 09:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 09:11 PM (Nkh1h)
I used to get a pretty good rise out of kids in gun safety classes by telling the story that even though pistols are like crack to teenage boys, if you put ten kids in a room with a gun on the table, the person to pick it up and wave it around will be the adult anti-gunner who's never touched one before and doesn't know how to clear it. I have seen it happen, and it gave the young something to think about: don't be like weird Uncle Kevin. Do we use the anagram PSH here? Well, it's often fatal.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at January 31, 2014 09:12 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 09:12 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 09:13 PM (HxSXm)
did some reading back, and I'm crying.
Take care cthulhu, in my prayers.
All of you, in my prayers.
Posted by: barbarausa at January 31, 2014 09:15 PM (WWeoI)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 09:16 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 09:16 PM (ojnk6)
Stockpiling Sand and salt is expensive though for once every 20 yr occurrences. Maybe not sand but salt would get washed away regularly by the rain requiring cover.
Posted by: The Hickster at January 31, 2014 09:17 PM (TI3xG)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 09:17 PM (ewO/f)
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I was standing in the basement bedroom of one of my teens, on the concrete slab, when that quake hit in VA about five hours north of us. It sounded like an elephant was walking in the hallway above us till I realized we had gotten a tremor from that quake.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 31, 2014 09:17 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: The Dude at January 31, 2014 09:17 PM (bStrg)
Because it would be stupid of them to invest tax money on snow plows and salt spreaders in a state where, when it actually does snow maybe once every ten years, it typically melts away within 24 hours.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 09:19 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy
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I've lived in NC most of my life. It's not true. We closed Tuesday for snow. No snow Tuesday. Snowed Wednesday. Three inches, but stayed below freezing.
They still haven't gone back to school.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 31, 2014 09:20 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 09:21 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 09:22 PM (b7yum)
Prayers for J, Cthulhu, and all other Horde that reached out to him. God grant you all peace.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at January 31, 2014 09:22 PM (ioT3q)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 09:24 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 09:24 PM (rDidD)
In the St. Louis area, city and county government is completely separate (for now). Whenever we get winter weather, usually within hours, and often while it is still coming down, county roads are being salted and plowed. It generally doesn't take long before even side streets are passable.
City roads tend to develop into ice rinks, and stay that way for as long as the temps remain low enough to not allow melting.
What's the difference between city and county? It's not geography. It's government.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2014 09:25 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 31, 2014 09:25 PM (itCai)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 09:26 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 31, 2014 09:26 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 09:28 PM (m0h0I)
541 How can you call yourself a dude if you don't know how to make mac n' cheese?
And the amount of water I've personally used to make it in this lifetime could fill Lake Erie. Which is eerie, because it's Erie.
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 09:29 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 31, 2014 09:30 PM (7+QLY)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 09:30 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 09:31 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 01, 2014 01:28 AM (m0h0I)
Oh god. I lost too many friends that way. I'm at a loss for words. I didn't know he was going through rough times. Damn, just damn. RIP Joffen, I hope things are better for you.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 31, 2014 09:31 PM (FMbng)
did some reading back, and I'm crying.
Take care cthulhu, in my prayers.
All of you, in my prayers.
Posted by: barbarausa at February 01, 2014 01:15 AM (WWeoI)
Not to worry about me. There are many whose circumstances need prayers more.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 09:31 PM (T1005)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 09:33 PM (ojnk6)
DAve. PUH-lease
Posted by: Tobacco Road at January 31, 2014 09:33 PM (4Mv1T)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 09:34 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 09:34 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2014 09:34 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: navycopjoe at January 31, 2014 09:37 PM (At8tV)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at January 31, 2014 09:38 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 09:39 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 09:39 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: MAx at February 01, 2014 01:29 AM (b7yum)
because mine doesn't come out of a box?
Posted by: The Dude at January 31, 2014 09:39 PM (bStrg)
557 Wtf? I was making a joke about making mac n' cheese and you have to try to pull some dick move?
Maybe you don't know this but one of the constituents, macaroni, is often boiled in WATER before mixing with the cheese. That was the issue in contention. However, your input is as valuable as always.
For the record I never brag about my dick size. Especially since I saw the size of your mom's.
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 09:39 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 09:40 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 09:40 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 09:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at February 01, 2014 01:38 AM (AymDN)
would kill for an HD remaster of Dominion Tank Police
Posted by: The Dude at January 31, 2014 09:41 PM (bStrg)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 09:43 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 09:44 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 09:45 PM (Nkh1h)
Posted by: The Warcock at January 31, 2014 09:45 PM (ewO/f)
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Posted by: MAx at February 01, 2014 01:34 AM (b7yum)
I believe that I know the time you're talking about, because that's when I tried to talk to her and she kept getting increasingly upset, so I stopped talking. I've seen her around, since. My intention was not to manipulate or harm, and when it appeared that I might be making a contribution to her distress, I stopped.
I like Deety. We've previously talked on other occasions. I don't know how that one went sideways -- but it's an imperfect form of communication.
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 09:47 PM (T1005)
TCN, this is me, raising my glass to you. And vowing to be more contientious about taking my meds than I have been lately.
Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 31, 2014 09:48 PM (LrxQR)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 09:48 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 09:50 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: rickl at January 31, 2014 09:51 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 09:51 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 09:52 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 31, 2014 09:52 PM (7+QLY)
He loved the Little Rascals and we'd been talking about them during breaks at work for a couple of days, and it always seemed to lift his spirits. I told him I had four hours' worth of episodes on VHS, and he asked if he could borrow the tape for the weekend. I was happy to do so and brought it in to work with me that Friday.
It was the last time I ever saw him.
The other guy was a friend I'd gotten to know while drinking and smoking weed at parties and hangouts over the years. He died playing Russian Roulette with a .44 at another friend's -- supposedly. There's always been a little doubt over the actual circumstances, but that was the "official" line. He had been more involved in the whole drug scene than I ever was, and some people were less than happy with him at the time.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 09:53 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 09:53 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 09:54 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 09:55 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 09:57 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 09:58 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: The Dude at January 31, 2014 09:58 PM (bStrg)
Posted by: Puncher at January 31, 2014 09:59 PM (LhAqq)
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 09:59 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 09:59 PM (ojnk6)
TL;DR Mumbling drivel to make myself feel better. Dogs rule.
I've been here as a mostly lurker under different names for 10+ years. I read through 50% of the ONT comments about 50% of the time. It's funny how people come and go, some I remember some I don't but there's a continuity across the "generations". I have no idea how that's relevant, I guess it's not lol but whatever, I liked Joffen's posts, always liked the Sunshine Patriot tag (EoJ came up with that? Ha, makes sense for some reason).
I'll add to the pile of "you all did everything you could, incorporate his memory into yourself and keep going". My wife's cousin just died after being in a few days long brain-dead coma from a heroin overdose; they pulled the plug. Second cousin dead in the last few years from a drug OD to go along with a suicide a few more years back by another cousin who was one of the children molested in that Boston priest scandal (he had gone public). She's got a big family but still... You do what you can and remember that you have your own life and family to take care of (reminds me of the Moron who was dealing with a seriously off-kilter step daughter or niece(?) I never found out how that ended).
I don't really believe that suicide is a sin. It can be selfish, but sometimes it's utter hopelessness and not a copout or spite. Being in that hole can be more than depressing, it can be downright terrifying. I've been pretty down at times, and have thought of ending it all but couldn't figure out how best to do it without messing everyone else up. Then I had a child and realized that no matter what happens I can't leave him.
Eh, I guess I'm writing this to add a virtual stone to his (temporary) marker, and to make myself feel better. Didn't work, but RIP Joffen, I've got a massive headache but I'll wash the ibuprofin down with a toast to you.
Regarding the dog commandments: dogs are the best, and I try to remind myself of those things whenever my dog bothers or "inconveniences" me. I probably don't deserve her.
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at January 31, 2014 09:59 PM (YxaXw)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 09:59 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 10:00 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at January 31, 2014 10:00 PM (YxaXw)
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 10:01 PM (b7yum)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 10:03 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 10:04 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: model_1066 at January 31, 2014 10:04 PM (LIQGY)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 10:05 PM (GEICT)
Yay or Nay?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 01, 2014 01:53 AM (GEICT)
That's a pretty low price these days. Used it before & had it work for you?
Posted by: Steck at January 31, 2014 10:05 PM (5i94q)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 10:05 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 10:06 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac lover of KaBoom Cereal at January 31, 2014 10:07 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 10:07 PM (Q6HBD)
Don't worry about it. It was well-stated, and well worth the read.
Anytime I think of making blanket statements about suicide, I think about those folks in the World Trade Center on 9/11. Technically, they committed suicide when they jumped out of those windows to escape whatever hell was at their backs.
That's the thing of it: you never know what hell is at someone's back, pushing them to jump, either literally or figuratively. Yes, it's hard for the survivors to carry on, but we are living, and living is ALWAYS hard to do.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2014 10:07 PM (BeSEI)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 10:08 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 10:08 PM (GEICT)
This one (who does not like football and perhaps has a "moral" problem with it, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean) just said (re: the Super Bowl):
"I'm rooting for both teams to get blitzed on PCP and have to play
high."
Posted by: Steck at January 31, 2014 10:08 PM (5i94q)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 10:09 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Adriane... at January 31, 2014 10:09 PM (qoKTg)
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at February 01, 2014 01:53 AM (m0h0I)
It always seems to involve a fucking chick. Not all, but most times. I probably know of at least a dozen people who killed themselves over the years. It never gets easier.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at January 31, 2014 10:09 PM (FMbng)
Posted by: Steck at January 31, 2014 10:10 PM (5i94q)
Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at January 31, 2014 10:13 PM (LrxQR)
You guys missed a prime opportunity to offer to rub Vicks on her chest.
Prefer not to be killed by Grim. Perfectly content to merely ogle when they appear in whipped cream or with an ewok wedged between them.
Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2014 10:14 PM (LI48c)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 10:16 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 10:16 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 10:18 PM (Q6HBD)
I used to post a lot here, I quit after the election (bummed with politics) I have tried to get back into it but you're a tough crowd after you've been away.
I just wanted to say RIP Joffen. I was on the ONT the first time he threatened to do this. A lot of you good people saved him then and probably have since.
You're good people, from what I saw after his wife left was a pain he may not recover from. He did then after of couple of weeks of everyone here helping. It didn't stick.
So anyways, prayers for him and his family. There is nothing more to say.
Posted by: robtr at January 31, 2014 10:18 PM (rTgOf)
BTW, checked your email lately?
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 10:19 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Sharkman at January 31, 2014 10:19 PM (8+xjO)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 10:20 PM (ojnk6)
I guess I'm lucky that way.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 10:21 PM (m0h0I)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 10:23 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at January 31, 2014 10:27 PM (ewO/f)
Posted by: MAx at January 31, 2014 10:29 PM (b7yum)
Not sure yet. My grandfather has quite the firearm collection and told me explicitly the other day "Take what you want." I don't want to look like some greedy bastard, looting my grandfather. Especially since not a single other person in the family shows any interest in guns. They're all coming to me eventually.
So I'm thinking of talking about one of the .22s with him.
He hasÂ….
Winchester Model 190 .22 Cal Automatic Rifle
Springfield Model 87A .22 Cal Automatic Rifle
Ithaca Model M-49 .22 Cal Single Shot Lever Action
Stevens .22 Cal Single Shot Lever ActionPosted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 10:30 PM (GEICT)
Don't worry about it. It was well-stated, and well worth the read.
<snip>
That's the thing of it: you never know what hell is at someone's back, pushing them to jump, either literally or figuratively.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 01, 2014 02:07 AM (BeSEI)
Thank you. And that is poignant, I will remember that.I'm rooting for both teams to get blitzed on PCP and have to play high.
Posted by: Steck at February 01, 2014 02:08 AM (5i94q)
Maybe respond with something along the lines of "Oh sh*t, that's a great idea. That would be epic! Think of the carnage! Beast Mode! Or Payton just spiking the ball and both teams just going at it. Welker ripping Sherman's dreads out. Dude, you're on to something! No wgo make me a sammich you Pajama Boy."
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at January 31, 2014 10:31 PM (YxaXw)
Posted by: Waterhouse at January 31, 2014 10:32 PM (ExmNj)
Posted by: fastfreefall at January 31, 2014 10:33 PM (oDZK5)
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at January 31, 2014 10:37 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 10:39 PM (ojnk6)
my SIL bought missus jc some clothes today. she told me (and I quote) "I had to take them all back because all the tops were too small and all the pants were too big."
I had a cheezer grin for about an hour -- and -- miracles of miracles -- I managed to keep my big mouth shut.
Posted by: jc at January 31, 2014 10:39 PM (PlzOe)
Nite all!
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at January 31, 2014 10:41 PM (m0h0I)
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Well, any one of them are at least worth a 20 dollar gift card in a buyback.
I'd give you cash though.Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 10:43 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: RWC at January 31, 2014 10:45 PM (Q6HBD)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 10:45 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2014 10:47 PM (QmxUE)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 10:51 PM (ojnk6)
There's another healthy dose of winter making its way across country next week. Negative temps again.
Posted by: garrett at February 01, 2014 02:47 AM (QmxUE)
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I predict you guys will be heading back to normal. We are starting to cool off. Below freezing all day today. first time in a long time.
Posted by: jc at January 31, 2014 10:52 PM (PlzOe)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 10:55 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 11:00 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 11:02 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 31, 2014 11:07 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 11:09 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: cthulhu at January 31, 2014 11:09 PM (T1005)
Posted by: yankeefifth at January 31, 2014 11:13 PM (rDidD)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 31, 2014 11:14 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Политика на шеши at January 31, 2014 11:21 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at January 31, 2014 11:22 PM (qyfb5)
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2014 11:26 PM (AymDN)
Posted by: Judge Pug at January 31, 2014 11:31 PM (E4MKN)
Posted by: Weirddave at January 31, 2014 11:54 PM (N/cFh)
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 12:08 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 04:08 AM (PlzOe)
Fourth of July? *checks calendar* errrrr, Leap Year?
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 12:14 AM (T1005)
anybody know why the folks at JBER are firing artillery at midnight?
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 04:08 AM (PlzOe)
Fourth of July? *checks calendar* errrrr, Leap Year?
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 04:14 AM (T1005)
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it's creepy. I don't have a memory of them doing that before.
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 12:17 AM (PlzOe)
671
anybody know why the folks at JBER are firing artillery at midnight?
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 04:08 AM (PlzOe)
Fourth of July? *checks calendar* errrrr, Leap Year?
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 04:14 AM (T1005)
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it's creepy. I don't have a memory of them doing that before.
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 04:17 AM (PlzOe)
Have you tried calling them?
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 12:25 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 04:25 AM (T1005)
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Nah. Don't think I want to bug people who shoot off the big firecrackers.
How are U doing. You've had a rough couple days.
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 12:27 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: SFGoth at February 01, 2014 12:28 AM (CyDmM)
Getting ready for the car show today, I hope it's a good day. Should be almost 60 degrees, maybe I'll get some top-down riding in.
Have a good day roonz and roonettez. Fear no evil, the Allbeing is near.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at February 01, 2014 12:51 AM (yh0zB)
Posted by: SFGoth at February 01, 2014 04:28 AM (CyDmM)
I was taking a sick day for Loma Prieta -- and was in one of the type of buildings that failed so spectacularly in Northridge -- 2 story apartments over parking. I'm laying there on the bed going, "yuck" when the shaking starts....and it's obviously something, so I stand on the bed.....then the wall behind my bookcase drops about 3", cocks back about 6", and abruptly throws all the books off the shelf, so they're hanging in air -- still arranged in groups where the shelves were, but about 1" in front of the shelf edge.
At least I had it better than my next door neighbor. He had just gotten home, shucked off his shoes and slacks, and was pouring himself a drink to relax when the fridge jumped him. He knew it was an earthquake, and -- despite living on the second floor of a two story building -- his primary concern was something falling on him.....so he decided to head for the middle of the koi pond in front of our building. He dodged the still-dancing fridge, and started making his way downstairs, being battered against the wall and stair railing at every step, until he got to the bottom, where he crossed the sidewalk, climbed the ornamental hill in front of the pond, and discovered that the shaking had stopped.
And, of course, that he was extensively bruised; in a dress shirt, underwear and socks; clutching an open 1.75 liter bottle of whiskey; standing in the landscaping.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 12:52 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 04:25 AM (T1005)
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Nah. Don't think I want to bug people who shoot off the big firecrackers.
How are U doing. You've had a rough couple days.
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 04:27 AM (PlzOe)
I'm doing ok. I feel like I acquitted myself honorably and -- though I'm far from pleased by the results -- I'll be able to look at myself in the mirror. I'm thinking of writing a letter to the NFPD -- if I'm correct in my time zones, they got to him less than two hours after he sent his final email.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 12:57 AM (T1005)
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Looks like you have your head on straight about it. I'm glad.
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 01:05 AM (PlzOe)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 04:57 AM (T1005)
I should extend this -- they found an individual when there was more than one with the same name in their city, who had a generic cellphone that didn't resolve to a physical address, in the middle of the wee hours of the morning, based on very sketchy information and concern from a stranger 3000 miles away, without waking up half the town or otherwise causing alarm. The deck was totally stacked against them, yet they persevered until they got to him.
And I understand, totally, why they shut down to me afterwards -- they had to notify next-of-kin first.
I wish they could have teleported to his side and saved him, but they did pretty damned well and I should write a letter. And I need to stop crying.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 01:15 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 05:15 AM (T1005)
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not until you are done. you earned your feelings and there is no reason to deny them. the hard edge will soften at the right time.
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 01:20 AM (PlzOe)
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Looks like you have your head on straight about it. I'm glad.
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 05:05 AM (PlzOe)
I had it together until I was typing the next-to-last sentence of @681. I'll be ok. It just hit me for a bit, there.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 01:21 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 05:15 AM
Yeah, it was an outstanding response. I still can't believe just how quickly they got there. They must have taken you very seriously indeed and hit the afterburners. I wouldn't have thought it likely at all. There wasn't much to go on.
Posted by: otho at February 01, 2014 01:25 AM (9gNQd)
Posted by: Sharkman at February 01, 2014 01:29 AM (8+xjO)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 05:15 AM (T1005)
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not until you are done. you earned your feelings and there is no reason to deny them. the hard edge will soften at the right time.
Posted by: jc at February 01, 2014 05:20 AM (PlzOe)
I was thinking of the poor cops thinking they were on some wild-goose chase after some internet bullshit and knowing that I'd been calling repeatedly with "please hurry" and trying not to stir up the people who pay their salaries.....then discovering the body. I'd even lodged a complaint that their website didn't have a phone number for 911-level calls coming from out-of-the-area. They did a good job and don't deserve to go through self-doubt flagellation.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 01:33 AM (T1005)
Anyone got a joint?
Bogarters.
And in case you ever wondered why it's called bogarting, the Urban Dictionary has an answer:
To keep something all for oneself, thus depriving anyone else of having any. A slang term derived from the last name of famous actor Humphrey Bogart because he often kept a cigarette in the corner of his mouth, seemingly never actually drawing on it or smoking it. Often used with weed or joints but can be applied to anything.
I should make sure that MP4 is aware of this.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 01, 2014 01:34 AM (cHZB7)
Yeah, it was an outstanding response. I still can't believe just how quickly they got there. They must have taken you very seriously indeed and hit the afterburners. I wouldn't have thought it likely at all. There wasn't much to go on.
Posted by: otho at February 01, 2014 05:25 AM (9gNQd)
Little known secret power of Elder Gods: "Persuasion that things are fucked."
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 01:35 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 05:15 AM
Yeah, it was an outstanding response. I still can't believe just how
quickly they got there. They must have taken you very seriously indeed
and hit the afterburners. I wouldn't have thought it likely at all.
There wasn't much to go on.
Posted by: otho at February 01, 2014 05:25 AM (9gNQd)
Little known secret power of Elder Gods: "Persuasion that things are fucked."
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 05:35 AM (T1005)
Thanks, otho.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 01:35 AM (T1005)
He did do that, but lacked follow thru.
I hope his daughter knows he loved her. That's what she needs to know, most of all.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 01, 2014 01:40 AM (cHZB7)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 05:35 AM
Do send that letter. They were brilliant.
Posted by: otho at February 01, 2014 01:40 AM (9gNQd)
He did do that, but lacked follow thru.
I hope his daughter knows he loved her. That's what she needs to know, most of all.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 01, 2014 05:40 AM (cHZB7)
De mortuis nil nisi bonum dicendum est.
It is enough that I have comported myself with honor. Further, Joffen himself said "I really made a friend through him" about Chi in his final message to me.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 01:50 AM (T1005)
But she went to a doc, and takes an antidepressant to deal with the depressive symptoms. and it's under control, but her friends/relatives give her a bit of grief about her using drugs. but she is controlling her grief.
i dunno, it was just a sorta weird convo to have with your banker, that you just met for the first time. It was nevertheless a 'real' one. I see her again this am to complete our deal; I plan to stress that I didn't express sufficient initial sadness at what she must have gone through.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 01, 2014 01:55 AM (cHZB7)
It is enough that I have comported myself with honor. Further, Joffen himself said "I really made a friend through him" about Chi in his final message to me.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 05:50 AM
J seemed like a very nice guy. Very friendly and approachable.
Posted by: otho at February 01, 2014 02:07 AM (9gNQd)
But she went to a doc, and takes an antidepressant to deal with the depressive symptoms. and it's under control, but her friends/relatives give her a bit of grief about her using drugs. but she is controlling her grief.
i dunno, it was just a sorta weird convo to have with your banker, that you just met for the first time. It was nevertheless a 'real' one. I see her again this am to complete our deal; I plan to stress that I didn't express sufficient initial sadness at what she must have gone through.
Posted by: GnuBreed at February 01, 2014 05:55 AM (cHZB7)
It's really funny [as my Gramps used to say, "funny -- peculiar; not funny -- ha, ha"], how often people have confided in me on the slightest of acquaintance -- and sometimes very shocking things. It's been happening since I was about 15, and sometimes -- to be honest -- I was not ready for the sort of revelation involved.
But I've always tried to listen and reason things through, and do my best to help people to a better understanding and a better place. I'm usually better at the "understanding" part, having read widely in my youth and been habitually curious.
One thing you cannot do, however, is to take all of the pain in the world into yourself. I can empathize and counsel, but have a very clear distinction in my mind between "my problem" and "your problem" -- not through any sense of vindictiveness or anything, but because it would have ripped me apart before I hit 20.
While you can tell her that you regret seeming removed from her obvious pain, the more distressing issue is her "friends" giving her grief about using drugs to numb the pain. What kind of "friends" are these, that demand she suffer?
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 02:18 AM (T1005)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 05:50 AM
J seemed like a very nice guy. Very friendly and approachable.
Posted by: otho at February 01, 2014 06:07 AM (9gNQd)
I missed him when he went AWOL, long before he touched back.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 02:23 AM (T1005)
Posted by: DocMerlin at February 01, 2014 02:24 AM (9/c6c)
- What do they care about votes? The vast majority of them are in safe districts.
Posted by: DocMerlin at February 01, 2014 06:24 AM (9/c6c)
The whole deal about immigration is national debt per capita.
If congress wants to spend the crap out of things, it's going to raise the national debt per capita unless they raise the "capita" faster.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 02:27 AM (T1005)
I was part of the 82 Snow Jam. It transformed my 1h commute into 5.
This time I slept till 4pm and went to work at 9pm, took maybe 20m about 5m more than usual. Where I met a half dozen of the day shift that were spending the night and monitored at least 1 dozen drivers (ICs) and employees as they sat on the interstate. One guy took from 16:30-6:30 to get home and another got stuck on the top end from 9pm to almost 2pm the next day. Just Wow
Posted by: bill-o at February 01, 2014 02:34 AM (AWwDY)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 01, 2014 02:41 AM (Q9VsW)
Posted by: backhoe at February 01, 2014 02:45 AM (ULH4o)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 06:27 AM (T1005)
Great. My first mind-numbing headache for the day. What is fucking wrong with these people?(asked rhetorically)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 01, 2014 06:41 AM (Q9VsW)
Just imagine looking at the world though the windows of an airplane at 32000 feet, and going, "those guys are gonna shit if they find out they owe $48,000 each -- let's import another 330 million people and have each owe only $24,000.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 02:50 AM (T1005)
Posted by: mindful webworker - doodles only 25¢ at February 01, 2014 02:51 AM (t0hSy)
Most of them from the North that supposedly know how to drive on this chit, I might add.
Posted by: bill-o at February 01, 2014 02:55 AM (AWwDY)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2014 03:00 AM (kspkr)
Posted by: mindful webworker - failure is not just an option; it's a lifestyle! at February 01, 2014 03:02 AM (GwyfB)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2014 03:07 AM (kspkr)
Posted by: acethepug at February 01, 2014 03:08 AM (ETXTf)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2014 03:10 AM (kspkr)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 01, 2014 03:16 AM (kspkr)
I didn't know Joffen that well, and I know a lot of you here did. I apologize if I step on any toes by offering my perspective, I just wanted to say this.
There's no blame to be had here, he died of a chronic and deadly illness, one that medical science doesn't have a solid cure for yet, and I'm sure he's somewhere a lot better now.
If the darkness ever seems like it's too much? If every loss seems to multiply and every success vanish as soon as you blink? Talk to your friends, vent to the Horde (I did a few times, not sure anyone remembers), don't try to keep it to yourself.
Posted by: Cato at February 01, 2014 03:17 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: mindful webworker - failure is not just an option; it's a lifestyle! at February 01, 2014 03:20 AM (2aCBB)
Posted by: mindful webworker - hello? hello? at February 01, 2014 03:32 AM (2aCBB)
Eating dinner-breakfast. Which is, of course, dinner for me at a time most people eat breakfast. Hooray strange work schedules!
Posted by: Cato at February 01, 2014 03:39 AM (J+mig)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 01, 2014 03:43 AM (KgN8K)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 01, 2014 03:51 AM (KgN8K)
Posted by: mindful webworker - reading komprehenshun at February 01, 2014 03:57 AM (vhb5a)
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 06:27 AM (T1005)
"Raising the capita" to reduce the debt per, works great as long as all the newer members of the capita don't want any services, perks, and other assorted free stuff from the guys that gave you the debt in the first place. So obviously the GOP-e has come up with the perfect solution of even more unlimited immigration than we now have, namely, screw the base, pacify the CoC, and ensure cushy consulting gigs after the fall.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 01, 2014 03:58 AM (o3MSL)
Posted by: blog alert at February 01, 2014 04:06 AM (2J4Qq)
I'm correct in my time zones, they got to him less than two hours after
he sent his final email.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 04:57 AM (T1005)
I should extend this -- they found an individual when there was more than one with the same name in their city, who had a generic cellphone that didn't resolve to a physical address, in the middle of the wee hours of the morning, based on very sketchy information and concern from a stranger 3000 miles away, without waking up half the town or otherwise causing alarm. The deck was totally stacked against them, yet they persevered until they got to him.
And I understand, totally, why they shut down to me afterwards -- they had to notify next-of-kin first.
I wish they could have teleported to his side and saved him, but they did pretty damned well and I should write a letter. And I need to stop crying.
Posted by: cthulhu at February 01, 2014 05:15 AM (T1005)
Dear cthulhu, hope you are getting some much needed rest as well as some peace of mind knowing you did all you could (and more than many could have). My prayers have been for you in all of this.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky survived 2014 Polar Vortex at February 01, 2014 08:09 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: Carol at February 01, 2014 09:08 AM (z4WKX)
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Posted by: shredded chi - tired of shoveling FACTs out of the driveway at January 31, 2014 05:51 PM (Nkh1h)