May 04, 2014
— Maetenloch
"But regardless of your background, regardless of the history they have, if we're taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form, that's not the United States of America. I don't want to be part of that."
-- Mark Cuban
Quote of the Day II - On the Nerd Prom AKA the White House Correspondent's Dinner
"The correspondent's dinner was a thoroughly medieval spectacle. Never was a lord's hall so earnestly thronged by grateful peasants as that venue. The comparison was nearly exact since it featured jesters, court ladies and the obligatory men-at-arms hovering outside the drawbridge of the castle. Royalty was of course in attendance, resplendent in its dazzling gowns and chic elegance. The designated buffoon of the evening was Kathleen Sebelius who was employed as a sight-gag as an obligatory adjunct to something broken as if she could absorb for herself the sins of the King."
Thought Policing Comes to the Sports Leagues
Cuban's point, though, is a valid one. It is, as he says, a "slippery slope" for NBA owners-or the owners of any sports franchise-to decide who should be able to enter their club based on the righteousness of their thinking, because who is to determine what is righteous?As if to prove Cuban's point, Esquire's four-eyed, multi-chinned, monomaniacal hack in residence, Charles P. Pierce, took to the digital pages of his glorified lad mag to call for Adam Silver to enact similar sanctions on the owner of the Orlando Magic. His thought crime? Opposing same sex marriage. Note: The owners of the Magic have not been accused of, say, banning gay people from the arena or making them uncomfortable at games. Simply engaging in the political process in a wholly legal manner is enough for Pierce to call for their defenestration.
Similarly, Washington, D.C.'s fake congresswoman, Eleanor Holmes Norton, issued a call for Roger Goodell to sanction the owner of the Washington Redskins for profiting off of racism. Ace has handled the idiocy of referring to the name "Redskins" as racism better than I can; allow me to simply note that this only helps prove the NBA owners are setting a dangerous precedent if they vote to strip Donald Sterling of his property for saying offensive things and holding offensive thoughts
VDH: Who Among Us is Pure Enough to Own the Clippers?
Certainly not some of Sterling's more vocal critics.
Then there is the issue of the nature of Sterling's more direct stone throwers. After Sterling's ostracism, which of them can and cannot buy a NBA or equivalent sports franchise? Perhaps Spike Lee, who has appeared in NBA-affiliated commercials?But Mr. Lee has made it clear that the very sight of interracial couples offends him. So do white moms in strollers in formerly black neighborhoods ("When you see white mothers pushing their babies in strollers."). Lee not long ago tweeted the wrong address of George Zimmerman's parents, in a failed crude effort to incite mob violence against his family-which resulted in threats to a completely different Zimmerman family and a law suit. After visiting South Africa, Lee thundered, "I seriously wanted to pick up a gun and shoot whites. The only way to resolve matters is by bloodshed." Should Lee be blacklisted from NBA games and his NBA commercial work dropped? Is publicly advocating racial violence worse than privately expressing racist ideas?
Charles Barkley (of the NBA: "we are a black league") has also weighed in. Could Mr. Barkley join an effort to buy the Clippers? Unlike Sterling, his racist outbursts are a bit more direct ("That's why I hate white people") and were not private. Was that a joke or just letting off steam?
Perhaps Shaquille O'Neal could head a consortium to purchase the Clippers? But O'Neill just posted a tasteless video of himself mocking someone suffering from a disfiguring illness. But that was not new, given that not too long ago he parodied NBA star Yao Ming's Chinese ancestry.
Black Christian Minister May Lose his Day Job in California Because of his Sermons
Pasadena city officials placed Public Health Director Eric Walsh on temporary paid administrative leave Thursday after they learned of controversial statements he had made about homosexuality and evolution in online videos and audio clips.
...Students for Social Justice found some of Walsh's videos online.
"We very quickly realized that there were a lot of communities that would be offended by Dr. Walsh," said Sarah Belknap, a fourth-year student and member of Students for Social Justice.
The group compiled a list of Walsh's controversial public statements, then published excerpts on Facebook and emailed them to media outlets.
Is The DOJ's 'Operation Choke Point' Causing the Closing of Porn Star Bank Accounts?
But porn stars are just the most visible victims. Already gun retailers are having a hard time getting credit card companies to do business with them. Now they may not even be able to open bank accounts.
Under "Operation Choke Point," the DOJ and its allies are going after legal but subjectively undesirable business ventures by pressuring banks to terminate their bank accounts or refuse their business. The very premise is clearly chilling-the DOJ is coercing private businesses in an attempt to centrally engineer the American marketplace based on it's own politically biased moral judgements. Targeted business categories so far have included payday lenders, ammunition sales, dating services, purveyors of drug paraphernalia, and online gambling sites. "Operation Chokepoint is flooding payments companies that provide processing service to those industries with subpoenas, civil investigative demands, and other burdensome and costly legal demands," wrote Jason Oxman, CEO of the Electronic Transactions Association, at The Hill.
Oh and the government also wants to monitor your investment accounts. For your own safety citizen.
In December, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, which oversees how investments are sold, proposed what it calls Cards, an electronic system that would regularly collect data on balances and transactions in brokerage accounts...Under Cards (which stands for Comprehensive Automated Risk Data System), Finra would collect-probably weekly-a record of activity at all of the more than 4,100 brokerage firms nationwide.
Finra would scour the data continuously, looking for any hints that a firm or a broker might be taking advantage of a client: excessive trading or commissions, switching from one mutual fund to another, overcharging for bond E*TradeETFC +0.04%s, overconcentrating in risky or illiquid securities, and so on.
Cards "would provide us with a treasure trove of information and the ability to focus quicker on firms that are placing investors at high risk," Richard Ketchum, Finra's chairman and chief executive, said in an interview.
The Party Of Science Has Absolutely No Clue What It's Talking About
Democrats love to pat themselves on the back as believers in science and rational inquiry as opposed to the anti-science knuckle-dragging superstitious right. But when it comes to applying scientific methods and analyzing data on the effectiveness of policy policy, it all falls away before the One True Religion of progressivism.
For decades, a series of studies have raised red flags. Surgery patients, cancer victims, and transplant recipients who were enrolled in the program were all found to fare worse-not merely than privately-insured patients with presumably easier lives, but worse than equally poor people who lacked any insurance at all. This literature was capped off by the landmark "Oregon study," a brand-new analysis that marshals gold-standard methodology to compare Medicaid recipients with uninsured people.The scholars found mixed results. Medicaid does lower psychological stress and increase financial stability, results we would expect from any transfer program. But the program actually increases unnecessary trips to the emergency room. And remarkably, Medicaid coverage has no measurable impact whatsoever on clinical health.
To an intellectually honest observer, these findings compel more questions. What are reasonable expectations for health insurance? Should we be satisfied if Medicaid helps people sleep easier but makes them no healthier? Even if so, is health insurance the most effective way to convert taxpayer dollars into peace of mind for the poor?
But no person on the left will ask these questions or even accept them as legitimate ones.
The theoretical physicist Richard Feynman once quipped that "the first principle" of science is "that you must not fool yourself-and you are the easiest person to fool." If we take the genius at his word, "the party of science" starts to look like a paradox. To insist that only your ideology is empirical and enlightened is to conclusively prove that it is neither.
Slate: The Autistic Boy Was Fair Game
Granted the 16 year old boy likely has Asperger's which means he wasn't completely helpless but then there's no question the two high school girls took advantage of and abused him - albeit with his consent. Should they be prosecuted and face jail (possibly decades for the 17 year cheerleader)? No, but they should have some consequences. And what they did was still wrong.
Because it's Star Wars day. This video is at least 15 years old but still awesome even if they had to change the theme song. I still laugh when the jawas catch on fire.
Nuts started as a print and then online lads magazine in the U.K. just about a decade ago. In that time, it's hard to count on hands and toes and other appendages how many fine looking topless lasses they've brought to our attention. Now, they are closing shop. Online and off. It's a melancholy moment for those 99.9% of us who love funbags.
It might not be common knowledge, but it's very economically difficult to run an R-rated journalistic endeavor. You're too racy for Victorian era corporate advertisers but you're not racy enough for people willing to spend money for their passions. It's the nightmare that keeps me awake at night, before I have some warm beer and ease back into slumber. We will miss Nuts. They were good, earnest, boobtastic loving folks. Of course, the glamour models will continue on in other venues, but as with any loss, things will not be entirely the same forever more.
Warning: Link is NSFW. Because boobs.
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The group. Yeah.
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Posted by: The Political Hat at May 04, 2014 06:56 PM (K1sEu)
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Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2014 06:59 PM (4rK3j)
What's that?!? Timmy's down a well?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:02 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 07:02 PM (ojnk6)
There's a constellation with all that stuff?!?!?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:03 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Voice № 42 in The Political Hat's head (the FIRST Voice № 42, not that other one) at May 04, 2014 07:04 PM (K1sEu)
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Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 04, 2014 07:07 PM (0AKks)
Fresh new thread smell, eh?
With just a whiff of New n' Improved Barrel!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 04, 2014 07:07 PM (vvk2F)
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Posted by: garrett
Ya better 'whip it good' to!
Students for Social Justice - Sounds like the Brown Shirts of the Thought Police, aka Progressives who didn't have enough things to screw over people in society they didn't like already.
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Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 11:05 PM (T1005)
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Who made that? Chrysler or Plymouth? Posted by: shredded chi at May 04, 2014 11:09 PM (xsTvq) Hide posts from (xsTvq)
I remember when there were only 22 in the world.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:12 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Average, ordinary Guy at May 04, 2014 07:13 PM (oEfeK)
"The correspondent's dinner was a thoroughly medieval spectacle. Never was a lord's hall so earnestly thronged by grateful peasants as that venue."
'Medieval' is a good word for it.
It was like watching Game of Thrones...with scared subjects, afraid of pissing off the petulant boy King Joffrey.
And it sounded like someone was adding 'canned laughter' in the background.
Posted by: wheatie at May 04, 2014 07:14 PM (l/M30)
Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 04, 2014 07:14 PM (aDwsi)
Crap....that's like half my monthly expenses....
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:14 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 07:16 PM (ojnk6)
Building upon the previous success of the Community Reinvestment Act, wherein banks were told by the feds that they would lose their licenses if they did not greatly increase their mortgage lending to ethnic buyers with lousy credit.
But, that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would then promptly buy up all of the resultant risky paper and stamp it with a big cheery "Guaranteed by Uncle Sam" logo.
This turned out to be quite popular with the banks. All of the upside, none of the downside. Until these huge tranches of toxic mortgages exploded and sank the entire economy with them.
Then, of course, the banks yelled for federal bailouts, and got them. The rest of us who had nothing to do with this nonsense then got stuck with a huge bill which we are still paying off, and will be paying off for decades to come.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 07:17 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2014 07:17 PM (ksFq+)
I just hope I live long enough to witness the inevitable pushback that is going to result from this shit.
It WILL be epic.
And I will laugh and laugh.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 04, 2014 07:17 PM (SAMxH)
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Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2014 07:19 PM (ksFq+)
You have the right to bear arms. But no one has the right to sell you any. See how that works out so nicely? Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2014 11:16 PM (oMKp3) Hide posts from (oMKp3)
It's a free country -- you have the right to travel anywhere you please.....unless it's by air, in which case you must submit to having strangers rifle through your stuff and fondle your person.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:19 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: concrete girl at May 04, 2014 07:21 PM (1YgVg)
Since I am in the same neck of the woods as the eldritch horror, I observe that there are now bald eagles occasionally nesting around the periphery of the Crystal Springs Reservoir not far to the west of the 101 on the SF Peninsula.
I haven't seen one yet myself, but the last time I drove through the frontage road area, there was a huge gaggle of birders with big optics all busily checking out a nest site.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 07:21 PM (noWW6)
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Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 11:16 PM (ojnk6)
This is why it was a tactical mistake for the league to ban him for life. If they had given him a 3 year suspension, that would have satisfied the mob while giving him hope of getting back in while the league hopes he dies in the meantime. Now he's got nothing to lose and he's just the kind of crazy asshole to go all scorched earth for the rest of his life.
Posted by: Mætenloch at May 04, 2014 07:23 PM (XkotV)
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Posted by: shredded chi at May 04, 2014 10:59 PM (xsTvq)
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Stop? Why would you stop? A true warlock doesn't stop.
Winning!
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 04, 2014 07:24 PM (IN7k+)
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Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 04, 2014 07:25 PM (l3vZN)
My advice re biological control is to put up owl nesting boxes.
Owls just luuuuuuuve them some bunnehs.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 07:26 PM (noWW6)
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Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at May 04, 2014 07:26 PM (HxSXm)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2014 07:27 PM (h4qhp)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 07:27 PM (ojnk6)
Smaller, regional banks...and credit unions...in Red States don't have to submit to Eric Holder's bullying.
So I doubt that they will.
They are not doing any across-state-lines banking, so what can he do to them?
The result of this will be even more businesses fleeing to the Red States.
Posted by: wheatie at May 04, 2014 07:27 PM (l/M30)
irongrandpa....... whole lotta that pushback ain't likely to be just figurative, y'know.
I pray though, that our system will work, and that conservative individuals continue to drive the system from below.
Screw any national "tea party" organization. Soon as they claim that they are, they prove by that same claim, that they're not.
Tea party is just us folks. Plenty of Morons amongst 'em. Our job is to make more of us. Persuading, convincing, arguing and proving.....
What I do, is get folks out to the range. Hard for 'em to keep hating on us, when they can't wipe the silly grin offa their faces!
That happens, then they tend to start paying attention to other points of logic I feed 'em. Doesn't take long before their desire for more fun at the range outweighs their adherence to the lies they've been fed.
Fun for them, to come into the shooting world. Fun for me, to make converts to the cause.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 04, 2014 07:28 PM (vvk2F)
I knew they were endangered, but had no idea the count was that low. I assume they have rebounded somewhat - any idea what the current estimate is now?
Do you remember when an Ivory Billed Woodpecker was supposedly spotted down in LA a few years back? I wonder what ever came of that? (Off to Bing...) Posted by: shredded chi at May 04, 2014 11:17 PM (xsTvq) Hide posts from (xsTvq)
I think there are about 450 now. It's still not a huge amount. And we're not totally positive -- but are reasonably sure -- it was flying parallel to the freeway and descending, so I caught a ginormous black bird with a white blob on the underside in the half-second before it descended to our level, and the BH noted the pink head on the huge bird that I pointed out to her before we passed. We were somewhat south of San Jose, and they are releasing them at Pinnacles National Monument, which is 80 miles south. So it's plausible that one came up far enough for us to see it.
I remember the Ivory-Headed Woodpecker thing....and used to think, "well, duh -- don't you know???" But I've lately gained a better appreciation for eastern swamps.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:28 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 04, 2014 07:31 PM (p4vr9)
what was the wing span?
Posted by: concrete girl at May 04, 2014 11:21 PM (1YgVg) Hide posts from (1YgVg)
That's what first caught my attention -- it was wider than a stork's
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:32 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 07:32 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2014 07:33 PM (oMKp3)
Since I am in the same neck of the woods as the eldritch horror, I observe that there are now bald eagles occasionally nesting around the periphery of the Crystal Springs Reservoir not far to the west of the 101 on the SF Peninsula.
I haven't seen one yet myself, but the last time I drove through the frontage road area, there was a huge gaggle of birders with big optics all busily checking out a nest site.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 11:21 PM (noWW6) Hide posts from (noWW6)
Heh. Today's hike was actually partially on the Crystal Springs Trail.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:33 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Larry Wall Lord of Perl at May 04, 2014 07:33 PM (3qVIz)
"Have you ever seen a condor? Scare the crap out of you!"
Posted by: Epobirs at May 04, 2014 07:34 PM (Icq+V)
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Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 04, 2014 07:34 PM (AHzA7)
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Posted by: RWC at May 04, 2014 07:36 PM (QeH9j)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston Texas
Both of us hope the push will be peaceful. I think it will, for the most part.
You are so correct that the change has to start from below--right at the local level, and work up.
Call it our own long march through the institutions.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 04, 2014 07:37 PM (SAMxH)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at May 04, 2014 07:37 PM (+0txR)
The fiancee and I are pretty sure we saw a condor on the way home from the hike yesterday. It was right off the 101.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 11:05 PM (T1005)
Possibly. I've seen one for sure in 20 years living in Condor country. Lots more Turkey Vultures though. Look for the white feathers on the underside of the body/wings.
Condor: Leading edges to mid wing, maybe 1/4 of the underside.
Turkey Vulture: Trailing edges forward, covering anywhere from 1/2 to 2/3 of the underside.
'sup jackwagons. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 04, 2014 11:23 PM (AHzA7) Hide posts from (AHzA7)
Just caught a glimpse of whitish blobular. Ideally, it would have been a clean observation through glasses and taking some time for details, with maybe a photo or two.....however, doing 70 mph on 101 makes this difficult. It was, however, one notably big damned bird.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:38 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at May 04, 2014 07:39 PM (+1T7c)
She used to be fairly famous if you kept an eye on the antics of Shirley MacLaine and those she promoted.
Posted by: Epobirs at May 04, 2014 07:39 PM (Icq+V)
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Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 04, 2014 07:42 PM (/FZPk)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/John-Wilhelm-8.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 04, 2014 11:29 PM (/FZPk) Hide posts from (/FZPk)
Judging by his companion, I'd guess that might be Roman Polanski.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 07:43 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2014 07:44 PM (h4qhp)
104...So, my point. I want seamless, quick financing that can be done in minutes.......I'm a what? I now have to move toward local credit unions who can't get shit done like that? God Damn.
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You mean, if you have a business that is on 'The List'?
Well credit unions can do anything that a 'major bank' can do.
But if they tell Holder to fuck off...then their ability to wire funds across state lines may be restricted as a result.
Businesses that are on 'The List' will have to do their deposits at small banks that are willing to defy Holder.
Then...they can create dummy corps, to establish accounts under and transfer their funds to, at larger banks, I guess.
Posted by: wheatie at May 04, 2014 07:44 PM (l/M30)
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Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2014 07:46 PM (oMKp3)
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Posted by: no good deed at May 04, 2014 07:46 PM (ILBCY)
That's where a couple of sheriffs' deputies ran me off the road once.
And where many people have related stories of seeing bobcats and mountain lions. Although I've been all through the Crystal Springs watershed for decades, I haven't seen anything but occasional spoor of either, drat the luck.
Tons of deer, raccoons, possums, skunks, but no cats.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 07:47 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 04, 2014 07:48 PM (b6koZ)
Posted by: RWC at May 04, 2014 07:49 PM (QeH9j)
It was stark up there. Probably a good place for the zombie apocalypse.
Except for being in CA., that is.
Posted by: navybrat at May 04, 2014 11:34 PM (JgC5a)
That's interesting. I manage the maintenance of a 1.6 mile private road, and the annual cost is about $10K per year, between grading, graveling and asphalting. If it was all gravel, instead of partially paved, I'm guessing the total would still be around $8K per year.
Don't think the zombies will manage to shamble as far as the Sierra foothills, however. So there's that.
Posted by: CQD at May 04, 2014 07:49 PM (tcvYF)
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No one really knows how many Condors have been killed by Wind Farms.
Apparently, they now go out and pick up the bodies as quickly as they can...before anyone can see it and report it.
There are a few videos on Youtube, though, of Condors getting whacked by wind turbines.
It's a sad thing to see.
Posted by: wheatie at May 04, 2014 07:51 PM (l/M30)
Famous Bombers of the Second World War by William Green. 1975.
"There were numerous instances of the rear spar failing and the fuselage breaking its back immediately aft of the wing on landing." pg 269.
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Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding Orca at May 04, 2014 07:53 PM (+1T7c)
FYI, the non-compliance rate in New York regarding the safe act is at 98%.
This is civil disobedience on a massive scale and the gov't is very very quiet about it.
Even the LEO's are saying they will not insist their officers enforce it, that will be left to the individual officer's conscience.
Made me just grin.
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Posted by: eman at May 04, 2014 08:04 PM (MQEz6)
That's where a couple of sheriffs' deputies ran me off the road once.
And where many people have related stories of seeing bobcats and mountain lions. Although I've been all through the Crystal Springs watershed for decades, I haven't seen anything but occasional spoor of either, drat the luck.
Tons of deer, raccoons, possums, skunks, but no cats.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 11:47 PM (noWW6) Hide posts from (noWW6)
We haven't seen a mountain lion, but we saw a deer carcass from one on a trail at Sanborn. It had been reported to rangers, and they confirmed the kill and were moving it away from the trail.
We've also been off in Sanborn when we heard what sounded like the rattling sound an African lion makes when he wants it to be known that he's in the neighborhood -- like at 0:07 of http://tinyurl.com/otpax82. I don't know anything else that sounds like that which you are likely to encounter in a Northern California forest.....
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 08:04 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Bill sometimes bill from Canada at May 04, 2014 08:07 PM (yPq3L)
Yes they did. With NO fanfare. Powers that be were taken quite aback by the non-reponse.
Word is that that a reworking of the legislation has been discussed, but I wasn't able to find out exactly what it is.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 04, 2014 08:07 PM (SAMxH)
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Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 04, 2014 08:08 PM (k5sm7)
Freeman Dyson is made of tough stuff.
He is an implacable critic of theoretical models which do not match up to the real world. And he came by that habit honestly.
You can find in odd corners of the Web some articles and interviews by Dyson wherein he talks about, as a young boffin in the UK during WWII, being detailed to Bomber Command as a statistician.
And telling the story of how he learned from the figures that the escape hatches in the bombers were too small. Aircrew trying to bail out from fatally hit bombers over Europe were hanging up in the exit. It would have been quite simple and cheap to enlarge the hatches, for which he argued.
No one would pay any attention to him. There are many names engraved on wartime memorial plinths which would have not been there if someone had done so.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 08:09 PM (noWW6)
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Sir, I intend to nominate you for the Nobel Prize for Cuisine for imparting this piece of information. I admit to being fascinated with the concept of the Doubledown, like a snake hypnotized by a mongoose, and I appreciate your comment to snap me out of it.
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Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 04, 2014 08:15 PM (30eLQ)
I thinks it's more costly to buy it monthly, but I'll check it out.
Posted by: shredded chi at May 05, 2014 12:01 AM (xsTvq) Hide posts from (xsTvq)
Interestingly, Walmart has pet medications through its pharmacy....and you must have a vet prescribe stuff.
It used to be that you could get tetracycline and such to medicate your aqarium....and maybe swig down a batch yourself if you felt the need and knew what you were doing. Now, it seems, we're past that.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 08:15 PM (T1005)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2014 08:16 PM (HVI5a)
Having said that, the road was a piece of shit, like a big washboard. I am lucky I have molars still in place.
Posted by: navybrat at May 05, 2014 12:01 AM (JgC5a)
That problem is, as you noted, is called "washboarding". I could tell him how to avoid it, but let me set up my consulting company and set my fee structure first. I'm thinking $10K per year?
Posted by: CQD at May 04, 2014 08:16 PM (tcvYF)
KFC is using Tyson chicken exclusively now.
We stopped eating there because of this.
Tyson chicken is loaded with hormones and antibiotics.
But the Tyson family is a bigtime donor to the DNC...so they get a pass.
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Just wait until the Vanguard of the Proletariat, fully equipped with Google Glass, is unleashed on an unsuspecting populace.
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Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2014 08:25 PM (BsFYx)
It's a thing. This was mooted as a Constitutional amendment here in Colorado in 2012. I'll always remember the sponsors' last names: Katz, Schatz, and Nunez
Had a poetry to it. Like Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria for apostate ashkenazim and high-caste latinos Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 05, 2014 12:18 AM (30eLQ) Hide posts from (30eLQ)
How 'bout getting politicians out of politics? I'm thinking that there needs to be a wall around the District of Columbia, with distinct gates. You check-in, you check-out.
And everyone in the world is given 3500 days (about 10 years) to spend inside -- to live, to work, as a tourist, whatever. But after you've been inside for 3500 days, you're done -- you can no longer pass the gates.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 08:27 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at May 04, 2014 08:28 PM (HxSXm)
The chicken tastes like cardboard. I suspect the batter is made from recycled Taco Bell chalupa wrappers.
Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at May 04, 2014 08:29 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 12:19 AM (ojnk6)
My wife and I get KFC about once a year. She likes extra crispy, I like original recipe, so we split a bucket and finish it over a couple of days. It's a guilty pleasure.
The way I look at it, you saved me from wasting my next visit on a Doubledown, so you saved a year of my life!
Posted by: CQD at May 04, 2014 08:29 PM (tcvYF)
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Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 04, 2014 08:34 PM (AHzA7)
That is when the draft will be reinstated.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 04, 2014 08:36 PM (27KaM)
It will be standard equipment for the Students for Social Justass.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 04, 2014 08:38 PM (27KaM)
219 OT: want to see a quasi-conservative flick that delivers the whole 2nd Amendment argument in one scene? Watch "Odd Thomas" on Netflix.
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I'll second that....'Odd Thomas' is a grrreat movie!
I saw it on OnDemand a few months back, and now it's gone.
It was listed as "Not in theatres"...probably because the writer, Dean Koontz is a conservative.
They had to do the movie with private funds, and shoot a lot of it out of the country.
That reminds me, I should try to find the DVD of it.
Posted by: wheatie at May 04, 2014 08:39 PM (l/M30)
Crikey, that seems awfully unpleasant.
Seems like an observational thing -- All good (danger level .001), all good (danger level .01), all good (danger level 0.1), little odd (danger level 1), little odd (danger level 10), exploded chicken (danger level 100). There's not a lot of window to fix problems.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 08:39 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at May 04, 2014 08:40 PM (jucos)
I admit I think it sounds good. But I don't want to have to spring for a whole large pizza to find out. Wasting food is a sin, you know. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 12:31 AM (HVI5a)
Well if yours is having the same deals the ones in my area are having you order a large pizza at regular price and you can get a large 1 topping for 30 cents. So get the sweet chili at full price and grab a 1 topping pepperoni for $.30. If its crap oh well you have another pizza. If its good, then you've got leftovers.
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Posted by: qdpsteve at May 05, 2014 12:41 AM (HVI5a
Well that goes without saying.
Posted by: buzzion at May 04, 2014 08:43 PM (LI48c)
I'm sure the regime has thoroughly studied the methods Stalin used to keep the Red Army motivated.
Posted by: Epobirs at May 04, 2014 08:44 PM (Icq+V)
Yes. Although, the majority of insertions of OSS and SOE operators into occupied Europe were not done at high altitude via Mosquito, but via low altitude in the dark, in obsolete Lysanders. Mosquitoes were in demand as pathfinders for bomber streams.
You can imagine how much fun that was, spotting a dimly lit impromptu airfield in rural France in the middle of the night, wondering if your welcoming committee were going to be the Maquis or the Gestapo.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 08:45 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 04, 2014 08:46 PM (K1sEu)
How 'bout getting politicians out of politics? I'm thinking that there needs to be a wall around the District of Columbia, with distinct gates. You check-in, you check-out.
And everyone in the world is given 3500 days (about 10 years) to spend inside -- to live, to work, as a tourist, whatever. But after you've been inside for 3500 days, you're done -- you can no longer pass the gates.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 12:27 AM (T1005)
One thing that would make a dent in the incumbent phalanx is to mandate that you can't run for office while holding another. For example, Mayors/Reps looking to go to the US Senate would have to resign from their previous office first. Senators running for Prezy can't keep their cushy Congressional job as Plan B.
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I could go for that, provided it also applied to the same office. You can have 15 terms as a Representative -- just not one right-after-another.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 08:46 PM (T1005)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 04, 2014 08:46 PM (HVI5a)
I'm not a big Koontz fan but I have liked the 'Odd Thomas' series. I've mainly listened to the audio versions and consequently it was a bit jarring hearing Reboot Pavel Chekov instead in the movie.
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Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 09:01 PM (ojnk6)
I think I saw/heard my first timber rattlesnake this evening, on a walk through some remote woods.
He didn't stick around, so I'm not really sure, but that's my best internet-aided guess. Posted by: Piercello at May 05, 2014 12:58 AM (JybVy) Hide posts from (JybVy)
(1) If he rattled at you, it's pretty certain that he was a rattlesnake.
(2) Where were you? It's rare that a particular terrain would have more than three or four available types of rattlesnakes, so then it's only an issue of sorting out which one.
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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 05, 2014 12:21 AM (h4qhp)
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I know, MH. I have t file gure out fleas &mosquitos about now.
I wouldn't have picked this guy, but kinda got him by default. He picked me. (the bitch ex didn't give a shit about him, & he was her Christmas present from her mom in '12)..
I won't risk his health for a day. He'll get whatever is necessary. Like I said, best friends.
Ask any Elder God you may know - he's 15 pounds of terror when it comes to protecting me. Posted by: shredded chi at May 05, 2014 01:03 AM (xsTvq) Hide posts from (xsTvq)
I don't think that I made the best first impression.....and I was freezing my butt off, so things didn't warm up. I'm sure we'll get along better once we see each other a bit more.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 09:11 PM (T1005)
I read "motivator" as "monster".
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 04, 2014 09:12 PM (27KaM)
Posted by: The Farmer at May 04, 2014 09:18 PM (eBupg)
I grew up in the West and have never ever had the privilege of hearing a wild rattler do its thing. I've seen them many a time now but have never gotten the sound.
A friend of mine, similarly situated, had his first experience of the sound while halfway up a two thousand foot rock face in the Sierra Nevada. Reached up for a handhold, heard the unmistakable warning buzz, pulled his hand back down, and realized that there was no alternative route around the ledge which the snake had staked out. Fun!
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 09:22 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Piercello at May 04, 2014 09:22 PM (JybVy)
The problem is, I'm poor, and was hoping to find a cheaper alternative. Can I get this stuff (or something better) at Wal-Mart or online for less? Or can I skip it for a while? Is it just a money maker for vets? I won't risk his health for a couple dollars, btw. He's my best and most loyal friend, so...
Posted by: shredded chi at May 04, 2014 11:49 PM (xsTvq)
If you live in a heartworm-prone area, don't skip. Once a dog is infected, the preventative treatment can actually be fatal if re-administered without prior testing.
Posted by: CQD at May 04, 2014 09:24 PM (tcvYF)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 04, 2014 09:25 PM (xsTvq)
Posted by: Piercello at May 04, 2014 09:26 PM (JybVy)
than three or four available types of rattlesnakes, so then it's only an
issue of sorting out which one."
I grew up in the West and have never ever had the privilege of hearing a wild rattler do its thing. I've seen them many a time now but have never gotten the sound.
A friend of mine, similarly situated, had his first experience of the sound while halfway up a two thousand foot rock face in the Sierra Nevada. Reached up for a handhold, heard the unmistakable warning buzz, pulled his hand back down, and realized that there was no alternative route around the ledge which the snake had staked out. Fun!
Posted by: torquewrench at May 05, 2014 01:22 AM (noWW6) Hide posts from (noWW6)
I've lived out here for all of my 51 years, and I've only seen a few rattlers -- all within the last couple of years....and none of them have rattled. I've probably seen more California Kingsnakes (which are gorgeous, BTW -- .http://tinyurl.com/mnbxucx ).
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 09:27 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: shredded chi at May 04, 2014 09:54 PM (WYB4/)
Snakes? Last summer, the ex & I took the kids t my niece's wedding... on the trip back home, I demanded that we stop to do a little sightseeing. We ended up hiking on some trails at Kerr Dam.
kids were running ahead of us (of course), & 30' behind, I came across a copperhead on the trail - yeah, they had run right over top of it.
I just about shit myself. Luckily, the ex didn't know how bad that could've been. Posted by: shredded chi at May 05, 2014 01:54 AM (WYB4/) Hide posts from (WYB4/)
One of my rattlesnake encounters -- we were out hiking with our godsons, and the oldest was in one of those pissy, "not grokking with the old farts" deals and had been running backwards down this road to goof off. I was following with the younger godson, and the BH was bringing up the rear a couple of paces behind. When I saw the snake, I went to stop the godson from walking into it (his quote, later: "it was like walking into a wall"), and then I investigated more cautiously while the BH caught up and we called for the older godson to come back.
There was no doubt whatsoever that it was a rattlesnake, and horsing around like running backwards down the road could well have had the #1 godson stepping directly on it....I'm kind of surprised he didn't.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 10:11 PM (T1005)
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 04, 2014 10:19 PM (K1sEu)
so what did I miss?
Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 02:18 AM (9GG/0) Hide posts from (9GG/0)
Snakes. Lots and lots of snakes.
But, on a lighter note -- how goes with you? You had this gig correcting standard exams, you've got the classes, you've got the house.....but you haven't been around (on the ONT) that much, so it's not current. How the hell are you?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 10:22 PM (T1005)
Posted by: RovingCopyEditor at May 04, 2014 10:24 PM (vRdWg)
cthulhu I am doing better.
I got hooked into playing this MMO. but I finally deleted my character today. it was the right thing to do.
Posted by: chemjeff at May 04, 2014 10:25 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 04, 2014 10:26 PM (9GG/0)
I haven't had any big snake encounters, just usual garden snakes and the like
by the way, AtC is not around to be reading this, right? because I don't want to lose my indoor sleeping privileges in Alextopia if she found out we were talking about snakes
Posted by: chemjeff at May 04, 2014 10:27 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: shredded chi at May 04, 2014 10:29 PM (WYB4/)
"hey where did everyone go"
Close encounters of the snake kind.
To their therapist. To recover from their close encounter.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 04, 2014 10:30 PM (nkPV9)
cthulhu I am doing better.
I got hooked into playing this MMO. but I finally deleted my character today. it was the right thing to do. Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 02:25 AM (9GG/0) Hide posts from (9GG/0)
Going off into some private obsession isn't necessarily a better/worse thing. I was really looking at how you're doing without being judgmental. How's the house? Are you happy with the way it's fixed up? Have you started sweeping out the winter and planting the spring? You've had your latest batch of victims for a while -- any of 'em show promise? Are you particularly proud of what they've accomplished this term? How are your fish? Have you figured out some patsy that you can pawn some off on?
You've been away for awhile, but fondly remembered. How are you? Whassup?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 10:34 PM (T1005)
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What's worse is that must have been a rogue snake. Most know not to do that.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 10:35 PM (T1005)
Tough church. Did everyone go out to the local airport after services and boo the bad landings?
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 04, 2014 10:38 PM (nkPV9)
Posted by: MAx at May 04, 2014 10:38 PM (b7yum)
the house is very meh. I have water damage near my chimney. so that sucks. have to get that fixed. I have a lot of yardwork to do including repairing a couple of bare spots in the lawn which sucks. gotta dig up some dead bushes and the landscaping fabric that I put down only 2 years ago is already full of holes. and that was a pain in the ass to lay down too. so that is going to suck. my battery-powered lawnmower broke so I have to go buy a new one, probably a gas one, but my garage is actually the lower floor of my house so I don't really want gas tanks stored in what is effectively my basement so I have to get a shed or something to store all of that in. and I still have a ton of fish but they have seemingly stopped breeding, I think they've reached the habitable capacity of my fish tank.
how is everything with you, how is the move to North Carolina coming
Posted by: chemjeff at May 04, 2014 10:40 PM (9GG/0)
Posted by: #I Stand with Snakes at May 04, 2014 10:41 PM (nkPV9)
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at May 04, 2014 10:42 PM (M9BzG)
Cthulhu,
that copperhead was pretty small. Which made it even more scary. Isn't the rule that little young snakes don't know how to control their venom output? Imagine my little boy getting bit out in the middle of nowhere (you should know where Kerr Dam is...)
I took a couple pics of it on the phone, but between the adrenaline & the butt clenching, they all turned out blurry. Posted by: shredded chi at May 05, 2014 02:29 AM (WYB4/) Hide posts from (WYB4/)
I don't know the rules for copperheads. For rattlesnakes, the basic rule is that the TINY ones can't get through your boot. The SMALL ones will get into you and empty their poison sacs....which is very, very, very bad. The ADULT ones will hit you and put it into deep tissue [not good]....but will do a "dry bite" about 1/3 of the time. A lot of it also has to do with the nature of the venom -- rattlesnake venom is hemotoxic, and is totally horrific.....but actually "cleans up" amazingly well [HUGE HINT -- if you're bit by a rattlesnake, REMOVE ALL JEWELRY. If it gets you on an arm and you're wearing a ring, it will very likely cause a huge blood-blister that will kill that finger.....where medical treatment can result in a huge puffed-out blistery arm without a ring returning to normal with no significant scars.].
Coral snakes, by contrast, are more closely related to cobras and are neurotoxic. It doesn't cause flesh-eating blisters, it shuts you down.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 10:45 PM (T1005)
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Posted by: Conservative Crank at May 04, 2014 10:54 PM (d7H2D)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 10:54 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at May 04, 2014 10:56 PM (d7H2D)
the house is very meh. I have water damage near my chimney. so that sucks. have to get that fixed. I have a lot of yardwork to do including repairing a couple of bare spots in the lawn which sucks. gotta dig up some dead bushes and the landscaping fabric that I put down only 2 years ago is already full of holes. and that was a pain in the ass to lay down too. so that is going to suck. my battery-powered lawnmower broke so I have to go buy a new one, probably a gas one, but my garage is actually the lower floor of my house so I don't really want gas tanks stored in what is effectively my basement so I have to get a shed or something to store all of that in. and I still have a ton of fish but they have seemingly stopped breeding, I think they've reached the habitable capacity of my fish tank.
how is everything with you, how is the move to North Carolina coming
Posted by: chemjeff at May 05, 2014 02:40 AM (9GG/0) Hide posts from (9GG/0)
Well, I would have moved already were it not for the fiancee (long story). It's not necessarily NC, BTW, but it's outta here. We just did a ramble through the low country, including Savannah and Charleston -- which I welcomed for the opportunity to get the infamous New Yorker cover ( http://tinyurl.com/oeycvfy ) out of her mind (she grew up in NYC).
Wasn't your house "bought new" from the developer? You might be able to stick him with the roof leaks. Bare spots in lawns are easy -- if it's totally bare and large, cut out some space and lay a little sod....if it's threadbare, just overseed it repeatedly at intervals of about a month.
How did your mower break? If the blade broke, it's easier to get a new blade.
Time for another tank!!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 10:58 PM (T1005)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 11:02 PM (ojnk6)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at May 05, 2014 02:56 AM (d7H2D)
******
Saw CJ earlier, didn't know such sightings were so rare. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 05, 2014 03:02 AM (ojnk6) Hide posts from (ojnk6)
The Horde has different subcultures depending on the time of day. CJ used to be on the ONT frequently.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 11:06 PM (T1005)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at May 04, 2014 11:08 PM (d7H2D)
Posted by: FCF at May 04, 2014 11:12 PM (Khja4)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 11:13 PM (ojnk6)
Wow.
Y'know, I'm not sure who I'd trust with such info, but it'd be interesting to have a table of "regulars" where we could know their status. Like, CJ's been off on other online things; I think Rum has been off on IRL things; several have wandered off to other blogs; and some have been banned [which is a great place to note that I miss arhooley].
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 11:16 PM (T1005)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 03:12 AM
What drugs and what medication? How closely related are the drugs and theft?
Posted by: otho at May 04, 2014 11:16 PM (Ci6bl)
I imagine this is AoS equivalent of junior high school cliques(sp).
There are certain times and certain people that the is no sense in even trying to converse at all.
Imho
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 04, 2014 11:17 PM (nkPV9)
Posted by: FCF at May 04, 2014 11:17 PM (Khja4)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at May 04, 2014 11:21 PM (d7H2D)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 04, 2014 11:25 PM (ojnk6)
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Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 04, 2014 11:28 PM (nkPV9)
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 04, 2014 11:33 PM (nkPV9)
I have a 32 yr old son who has been into drugs, theft, etc since he was 19, jail twice goes again bye bye.
He is on medication that horrifies me, and then doesnt stay on it.
He is not in my house, another state in fact and that has been part of the tough love thing (And it IS tough). He wont go into rehab or even a halfway house (tried that too).
Tonight he calls me with the biannual kill myself routine.
Ive cried already, prayed (no pleaded) with God, but I honestly dont know how to handle anymore. I am positive my personal hell is hearing my son sobbing on the other end of the phone.
Ignore this issue at will but this is also the same problems that many multiples of parents are having. Maybe not on this particular scale, however it IS happening.
Discussion and advice always welcome. Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 03:12 AM (Khja4) Hide posts from (Khja4)
To begin with, I can hear and understand the situation in which you find yourself. I have some rough understanding of the pain you're feeling -- having called for a police "welfare check" a couple of times, lately....with neither being completely successful.
I do not have the history, so I cannot really help very much in getting you through tonight.....but I have a strong recommendation for when the crisis resolves -- seek help, but not for your son.....for you. Because there is a significant possibility that "tough love" may be working with your son, and there is a significant possibility that the help he's getting is just what he needs, and there is a significant possibility that he may be beyond help......but there is a near certainty that this has been grinding away on you and that you are not beyond help, needing "tough love", or getting the help you need.
You will need to be confident, strong, and comforting to reach out and pull your son back from the brink, so it would well behoove you to get a coach and train for that moment.
Your reference to "biannual kill myself routine" makes me very hesitant to step in and second-guess things. But it is not shameful to err on the side of caution. I called for a "welfare check" on my friend Joffen a little over three months ago, and the Niagara Falls Police Department found his body just a bit too late.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 11:47 PM (T1005)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 03:17 AM (Khja4) Hide posts from (Khja4)
FCF -- no, come, stay, be comforted......
Shit.
I spent too long.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 04, 2014 11:49 PM (T1005)
Just this part. I never know what the right thing to say is? Whats worse, giving bad advice or no advice at all?
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 04, 2014 11:55 PM (nkPV9)
Posted by: FCF at May 04, 2014 11:57 PM (Khja4)
By far the toughest part of tough love is being ready to let people go.
Been there, done that, would not wish it on anyone, huge sympathies for those who must endure the same.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 04, 2014 11:58 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2014 11:59 PM (h4qhp)
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 12:00 AM (nkPV9)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 12:04 AM (/FZPk)
I do appreciate the thoughts though
I have a whole diatribe on the antipsychotics that are so freely prescribed. Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 03:57 AM (Khja4) Hide posts from (Khja4)
I'm glad you stopped in again.
You have twelve years of history that I can't read -- go with what you have tonight. But, really, start interviewing people to find someone you can trust to coach you through this. It's an awful, horrible situation and it only makes sense to train for it.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 12:05 AM (T1005)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 12:12 AM (Khja4)
Sounds like you really need to just talk, seems things are very bottled up and you are about to pop.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 12:15 AM (/FZPk)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 12:23 AM (Khja4)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 12:25 AM (/FZPk)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 04:12 AM (Khja4) Hide posts from (Khja4)
Don't apologize!!!!
It's only painful to us if we can't make things better.
And, while I'm crossing t's.....may the good Lord look upon the son of our companion FCF, and heal him from the wrongness in his thoughts and behavior that yoke him with such awful medications; and, further, may FCF find temporal and spiritual support and counsel to guide him through these difficult times.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 12:27 AM (T1005)
How can it be a war of Northern Agression" when South Carolina Militia fired the first shots?
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 12:28 AM (nkPV9)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 12:28 AM (Khja4)
See what I mean??
Obligatory bikini link to defuse things.
http://tinyurl.com/mpxy7pz
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 12:30 AM (/FZPk)
My wife is sitting right next to me. She has her fist clenched. What would happen if I opened that pic.
Hmmm
I have enough bruises already.
:O
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 12:32 AM (nkPV9)
Sounds like you have wee bit of an issue there GMB. Choose wisely.
But I am already up past bedtime from writing. Good night all. Hope things do get better for you and your son FCF.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 05, 2014 12:34 AM (/FZPk)
How can it be a war of Northern Agression" when South Carolina Militia fired the first shots?
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 04:28 AM (nkPV9) Hide posts from (nkPV9)
I've still got the bug bites from visiting Fort Sumter....moving Federal forces there from Fort Moultrie was absolutely and obviously aggressive, and caused Fort Sumter to be shelled....after which, it was surrendered with no loss of life and all personnel were shipped north (along with the flag).
To put this in modern terms -- is it not Russian aggression when Russian troops take over Ukranian government buildings without firing a shot?
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 12:35 AM (T1005)
This is my life, I live it, Criticism be damned. I agree with it but its my husbands sign. Maybe I could sell one to Sterling for a cool mill? Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 04:28 AM (Khja4) Hide posts from (Khja4)
Er, looks like I got FCF's gender wrong....*tips cap* Sorry, ma'am.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 12:36 AM (T1005)
Slavery was an evil that needed to end. It would of ended war or not. Economics dictated it. Slavery could not compete with machinery.
Lincoln was the "tfg" of his time. He believed in big government. Having been born and raised less than 50 miles from New Salem, even though I was home schooled, I got a very large dose of how great Lincoln.
After having got interested in him and started reading his writings from even before he became a politician, It was not hard to understand that he thought gob'mint was a cure to all problems.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 12:37 AM (nkPV9)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 12:39 AM (Khja4)
Who did Fort Sumter belong to? The Federal Government or the state of South Carolina.
If you want to argue legality, clearly under the Constitution the Fort was Federal property.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 12:42 AM (nkPV9)
For Fort Sumter to become Federal Property the State had to agree to the sale of the Land to the Federal Government. Did succession automatically return ownership of Fort Sumter to South Carolina? Did South Carolina offer to return the monies it received for the sale of the land?
To my knowledge, they did not.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 12:47 AM (nkPV9)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 12:47 AM (Khja4)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 12:49 AM (Khja4)
"Special Thanks To: State of California Bureau of Land Management"
Now..
Tom: "Eye don't think so!"
Posted by: Lost Tom Servo at May 05, 2014 12:49 AM (Oop/T)
Who did Fort Sumter belong to? The Federal Government or the state of South Carolina.
If you want to argue legality, clearly under the Constitution the Fort was Federal property.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 04:42 AM (nkPV9) Hide posts from (nkPV9)
Yup -- Article I -- "and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings".
But moving from Moultrie to Sumter and attempting to resupply precipitated the crisis.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 12:52 AM (T1005)
As I said, both sides deserved to lose.
Just playing the argument for the arguments sake.
"But moving from Moultrie to Sumter and attempting to resupply precipitated the crisis."
How does moving from one Federal property to another Federal property give anyone the right to start shooting?
You feel threatened by it? That's the argument the progtards are using to make guns evil.
Inho.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 12:57 AM (nkPV9)
Even though born and raised in California, I can recognize some of the occasions when "ma'am" might be appropriate.
And, I might add, I think so "poorly" of the culture of the South that I'm seeking to relocate there in short order.....and certainly not to contaminate it with any hint of the idiocies that I am fleeing.
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 12:59 AM (T1005)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 12:59 AM (Khja4)
Posted by: FCF at May 05, 2014 01:01 AM (Khja4)
First off, it would of forced lincolns hand. He would have to had fired the first shot. It would have been a real war of agression.
I think this would have led to recognition of the Confederate Government by France and England.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 01:01 AM (nkPV9)
With kind of protection, I think the war would have been over in less than six months.
The Federals would never had been able to do much about matching the combined French and British fleets.
With over sees trade not in jeopardy, IMO, they would have won.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 01:06 AM (nkPV9)
First off, it would of forced lincolns hand. He would have to had fired the first shot. It would have been a real war of agression.
I think this would have led to recognition of the Confederate Government by France and England.
Posted by: GMB (et al) at May 05, 2014 05:01 AM (nkPV9) Hide posts from (nkPV9)
You're missing quite a bit of context -- several states had seceded, and the properties and facilities of the US within the state had been peacefully rolled back to the states involved.
Further, there was the symbolism of Charleston Harbor -- South Carolina being the center of the Snow Campaign that touched off the Revolutionary War......
Posted by: cthulhu at May 05, 2014 01:15 AM (T1005)
Posted by: Conservative Crank at May 05, 2014 01:27 AM (d7H2D)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2014 01:33 AM (XyM/Y)
By who? The States that had succeeded? Was the transfer agreed to by the Federals? Was the monies for the sale of the land returned?
The Federal gub'mint never recognized the right to succession, why would the recognize the return of Federal facilities?
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